• Practice Teaching Lipper Talks To Tate Provides Experience About Football: The In Classroom Work Smiles Come Easy Now Page Three Page Seven * Pacemaker Award Winner 1963-64 Wake Forest College, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Monday, December 7, *1964 * VOLUME L * * * NUMBER 12 3 Aspects On Agenda Prominent Lecturers Appear Men's Judicial Board To Replace In CU Sex Ethics Symposium Faculty's Executive Committee Job By HENRY BOSTIC, JR. uality.' " ly president of the American STAFF WRITER He stated further that "for Colle~ of Obstetricians and The Fourth Annual College the purpose of revealing and Gtvnecologists. Union Symposiwn, "Sex Eibi-cs analyzing the implications of Responsibility Of Medicine - Marital and Premarital" be­ our sexual behavior, the com­ Old Board To Hear "The Challenge of Change" gan yesterday under the direc­ mittee has given the platform was the title of Dr. Lock's lec­ tion of the Lecture Committee to a doctor of medicine, a pro­ ture last night. In the lecture of the College Union. fes!Sor of theology, and a scho­ The Extreme Cases he dealt wih the moral re­ 00' The Sympoo1um ww continue lar the social sciences, for no sponsibility of the medical pro­ longer is this the jurisdiction By ALBERT HUNT through tomorrow with an open fession to lead out in a pro­ o!f a single science, but the con­ ASSOCIATE EDITOR forum being conducted by Dr. gram of education in the areas cern of all philosophies. Evelyn M. Duvall, Dr. William of illegitimacy, forced marri­ A Men's Judicial Board which will handle the ·Hamilton, and Dr. Frank R. Lock represents the medical ages, divorce, and changing sex majority of male conduct violations has officially Lock at 3:30 p. m. in DeTamble field, Hamilton represents the patterns in our culture. started operations. Auditorium of the Humanities field of theology, and Dr. Du­ At 4 p. m. today Dr. Duvall The. board will, in effect, replace the faculty's Building. vall will speak concerning the will lecture on the "Sense and 3-Fold Purpose position of the social sciences. executive committee although that body will still Nonsense about Sex." She has Mayo Stancil, chairman of Lock has been Professor and handle cases of a "very serious nature," according contributed heavily to the con­ the Lecture Committee, has Director of the Department of to a Dean's office spokesman. temporary trend toward sex stated that ··the College Unioo, Obstetrics and Gynecology, He explained the executive committee will only education and is the author of through ·this symposium, is at­ Bowman Gray· School of Medi­ handle cases such as "sex perversion or problems widel!y used texts and reference temptrl!ng rto expose the medical, cine and Chief of Service, North along these sensitive lines." moral, and mental implications Carolina Baptist Hospital, for !books in this field. Some of her • The board consists of six students, two from each well-known texts include Fami­ of the phenomenon called 'sex- the past 20 years. He is current- of the upper three classes, who were elected in a ly Living, When You Marry, Being Married, and Family De­ student body vote last velopment. month and six faculty 12 Freshman Coeds To Vie Dr. Duvall is aliso the author members. of popular guides for young MEN'S JUDICIAL BOARD members discuss left to right) McCall, Daniel, Memory, Sch­ r;;~~;~~;::s~~~·'"''~~i Senior representatives· om. the peoples such as Love and the the responsibilities that lie ahead of them lossberg, Burroughs, Baker (second row) board are Louis Falzer of Ro­ For 'Miss Baby Deac' Title Facts of Life, and of the piooeer during their first year of operation. Faculty Gross, Monroe, Turner, Falzer, and (third iFrosts Campus r~ chester, N. Y. and Rus5ell Mc­ Ca1l of West Point, Conn. study, In-Laws: Pro & Con. and student representatives include (front, row) Barrow, Talbert. Twelve freshman coeds rep­ if.: By SYLVIA PRIDGEN f.! men students group may have Tonight At 8 Representing the junior class a nominee. ~ FEATURE EDITOR n resenting ten freshman social Hamilton will lecture on will be Steve D-aniel of Roxboro The voting began last Thurs­ The first snow is differ- fraternity pledge groups and "Faith, Sex and Chastity" to­ ~ ~ and: Jim MWI.!l"oe of Sali!sbury. !(lay after chapel and will run e~ 0 night at 8 p. m. He is Profes­ Daniel and Gene Lawson of two freshman dorms are in until midnight Sunday. A bul­ Tiine Article Gets Protest. The fir.st snow is white ill sor od' Christian theology and Gainesville, Ga. were originally competition for the tiUe, 'Miss letin board with pictures of the and cold and sparkling- M ethics at Colgate-Rochester. He l elected by the junior class, but Baby Deac,' with penny votes candidates has been placed in By ALBERT HUNT "the college has advanced to Clodfelter said he filed 15 ~ like !he sec0111d one. But~ being the deciding factor. has authored such relevant when LaWISOn dropped out of Rey.nolda Hall along with voting ASSOCIATE EDITOR become a reputable small libe- pages of material on the college tJ the first snow is still dif- :,O..) ·School, Monroe, who fimshed Freshman girls participating books as The New Essence of N ferent from the second ~~ jars. A preliminary check of Wake ral arbs schooL" and demonstrations to Time and third in the voting, took his ' in the contest are: Anne Phil­ Christianity, and The Chris­ g snow-or the third. ~ The winner will be announced Forest alumni and administra­ Thorough Inquiry the quote concerning the col- place. lips of Greensboro; Merley Glo­ tian Man. ill Instead of a blase, non- tl tomorrow in chapel by fresh­ tors has indicated that while Tribble said a thorough in- lege'.s high school status was Sophomore representatives aDe ver of Concord; Emily Steifle man class president, Jerry Hamilton will also address h~ chalant, "By the way, it'SI ;{ rthe student body in chapel on they will not dispute Time quiry has been made and "no included. Tommy Baker of Raleigh and of Greensboro; Sue Milam of Baker of Kannapolis. Miss Baby @ snowing," it's an excitial!g ;-~ Tuesday on "The First D~zy of magazine's claim of being a one has said that Wake Forest Quote Not Identified Bill Schlossberg of Huntington, Barnesville, Ga.; 'Carol Mabe Deac' will be given a personal i1 unreal, "Say,isthatsnow?': ~ Dying." lively publication, they would CoHege has been referred to as' He said he had heard the W.Va. of Rekls'Ville; Jan Wuerten­ trophy and the sponsoring fra­ H The first snow means ;j Last Session question their reporting accu- a high school. phrase used iby several indi- lberger of Charlotte; Nicka ternity will receive the rotat­ V staring out the window to y Faculty Members "We're inclin~ .to think," he viduals "familiar with North Thompson of Elkins, W. Va.; The last session of the Sym- racy. H make sure tt's still coming ):j ing plaque. continued, "this is a figment Carolina educational history," The faculty members serving Judy Harding of Winston-Salem; With funds from this project posium will be held at 3:30 p. In their Nov. 27 issue Time r~ down, to make sure it's &1, !l'f some passing imagination but they preferred not to be , converting green to white, ;2 Olll the board and their year Ausl;ine Odom of Martinsburg, the freshman class hopes· to m. tomorrow. · · · Imagazine presented an account who wanted to make a story identified. to make sure there'll be \:.: of expiration are Dr. Harold W. Va.; Carol Murphy of Jack­ sponsor a musical group to en­ The program will comist of an of Wak: . Forest's reaction _to )1 appear spectacular." In a prepared statement last enough left to throw at the ~'~ M. Barrow, professor of physi­ sonville, Fla.; Dayna Tate of tertain on campus in the spring. open forum with each of the the deciSions of the Baptist n Tribble noted that when he week, Johnson, the retired Balti­ it~ loudmouth across the hall. fj cal educatibn (1966); Jasper L: Atlanta, Ga.; and Jerrie Burton According to the class secretary, three guest lecturers partici- State Convention last month. came to the college in 1950, he more journalist and writer, said The first rsn~w has a !:1 Memory, professor of educa­ of Greensboro. Jan Wuertenberger, plans for paling .ion the discussion. During the course of the story iJ regarded Wake Forest "as one he had written a letter to the f'j magical power of reforma- E~ tion (1966); Dr. Thomas J. As itB first money-making having such a group are tenta­ Both today and tomorrow they stated that, "For moot of Turner, professor of physics from 9:30-11 a. m., during the its 130-year history, Wake Fa­ of the best colleges in the South editor of Time calling his at­ ,., tion. It can change a feel- t~l project of the year, the fresh­ tive. f j ing of Monday remorse to ;:.\ (1967). coffee hour, an informal discus- rest was known as 'North Caro­ and as having unusual promise tention to the fact that "long man class is conducting the Previous 'Miss Baby Deac• lj a sudden effervescing of {1 Also Dr. Paul M. Gross, Jr., third annual 'Miss Balby Deac' sion between the three speak- !ina's besrt high school'.'' for developing into a good uni- before the Tribble administra­ winners are Jan Gross, junior versity," tion the college which Time [;i Christmas spirit. It can con- ;;{ associateprofeS>SOr of chemistry Contest. OnJy- freshman coeds of Bel Air, Md., and Marsha ers, the faculty and the stu- The magazine went on to say He said ewdence of this facll chose describe as a 'high ~~ vert a bleak, stark, build- rJ ( 1967) ; Dr. Charles H. Tal­ are eligible and any freshman dents will be held in the elevat- that since Harold W. Tri:bble to Cannada, sophomore of Dur - may be found in the long list school' had furnished the state iJ inlg-and-scrub-grass land- W bert, assistant professor of re­ pledge class or ot11er freshman ed portion of the cafeteria. was named president in 1950, ligion (1968) and Dr. Julian C. ham. o!f distinguished Wake Forest with at least two U. S. Sena­ [J. scape into a sugary-white h ~~ M Burroughs, Jr., assistant pro­ alumni and a "concrete illustra- tors, three governors and a doz­ h !Storybook picture. Snow H feSISor of speech ( 1968). tion" would be a recent book en or representatives includ­ 8 !X·ans!or~s deadp~ faces .so 0 The six faculty representa­ l!ilw..::~~~~-·~::;,::y,"':<;:.a:;,:x~iic::<:l Author To Attend Opening ~r~--01'.-ii:..J.ffim..'E.m:.:·~::-;< by the noted Gerald Johnsoo, ing Woodrow Wilson•s majority il mto 1mp1sh ones Wlth pink ~ g cheeks and red noses and M tives were chosen by Presi, The Hod Carrier, in which one leader in the House, Claude deatt Harold W. Tribble from. chapter "is devoted to Mr. Kitchin." t.~ eyes that compete with [1 ~1 th~£:€ of Sam.t_a for relative ~ a lis-t of 12 names submitted: Johnson's experience as a stu- Johnson said he felt the pic- by the faculty committee on:. dent at Wake Forest." ture appearing in Time showing N ability to twinkle. ;;"' Lights Go Up For 'Lemmings' Wed. ~-' The first snow is unique.~ nominations. This is the pro­ It has been learned that the a group of students with a cedure generally followed in, story was filed to Time by Jim banner reading "To Hell With fi Perhaps it is magic be- f1 By CAROL CLAXON Wednesday on the College second major production of an the drama, · believes that plays selecting committee members. Clodfelter, an undergaduate The Baptists" is a "regrettable iJl cause of its classificatiOill if-~ STAFF WRITER Theater production of "The original play ever presented by "should not be done merely on ;:: -there can only be a first (l ,., student at the University of breach of decorum.'' Baker Is Charimau ' ! The throngs watching cele- Lemmi.ngs." the College Theater. The first the basis of being original pro­ / snow once a yea;r. t; North Carolina and a part-time "At the same time," he add- brities enter the theater may The play will be an original was "Livin' High," a musical ductions." In its first meeting, the Judi­ contributor to Time magazine. (Continued on page 5) 1~:.;~·.;,;:::~.;;~~~~~;~;~~-..,::::::tf!.::*.~:.::;rt..:::u:~~~ be missing, but two other in- one - never before produced comedy produced in the spring For this pl~zy, however, he cial board elected Baker to gredients of a Broadway open· - and itB author, Joseph Guz­ of 1958. has high praise, calling it "the serve as cha:irnlarn: this year. ing night will be present when zetti, Jr. will be in the audience. James Walton of the Depart­ best-written original script that One of the stipulations of the the lights· go up at 8:15 p. m. t "The Lemmings" will be the ment of Speech, co-director of I've laid my eyes on, from the boa·rd, approved by the faculty writing point of view." 'Challenge' Plans Materialize lasrt year, is that the chairman He describes the play as a shall always be a , wake For­ roam of last year's LegisJ.ature's "We visited the Cornimg a major address from him." recting is presented oM-Broad­ est College's first student­ Student Relations Committee. way. ISponsored convention-symposi­ Glass Company." Hoff con­ Five Committed It WaJS subsequently appro-ved tinued, "and they did pro­ A showcase production is a um, announced last week its by the studen . ' His reading will take place at There will be an open meeting be presented Dec. 16 and 17, 7:30 p. m. in Winston Hall, the pra• of Beta Beta Beta Biological should sign up on the office of Room A. have £01 Society a.t 7 p. m. in the Faculty Miss Sharon Dail.y of the speech Since lounge, Winston Hall. Dr. A. dCtPartrnent. Material may be Since 1961, when he published w. his first volume of poems, Du­ dents h~ Cooper, .an ecologist at N. C. provided. gan has been recognized as one pletely c r ~~, ,,. .. ,,.~ _.::.,,~ State College, will be the gu~ of chalk ;§"' ... , ... Thursday of the most original and pro­ /,[> ·,.. ···' ~f"'':-*YA speaker. vocative of the new poets. His lesson J Who's Tuesday Professor Robert Durd€n of recently pub1ilshed second vol­ new mil Selection of delegates for both Duke University will lecture on ume, Poems 2, brought further 1' Depressed? the State Student Legislature "Ambiguities in the Anti-Slavery .criticail acclaim. Reviewers have and the United Nations Model Crusade of the Republican noted his "extraordmary force Within Party" at 4 p. m. in DeTamble and briDiant unexpectedness," discover' Audtoriwn. hils "acid diction," and his perience Choir Groups Friday •shrewd commentary upon con­ ior of W temporary life. son, ~en The College Union movie, "Perhaps it is his role as like the \i'fr~r;~'(f To Present Frank Perry's "David an'li lbu&inessman, tenant of 'offkes ing clasl Lisa," starrmg Keir Dullea and away from weruther,' " writes perience. Not the Man Who Wears Our Worry Bfrd Tfe Tac • g Janet Margolin, will. be shown !the New York Times, "'that en­ very ex• Vesper Sm •art; 6, 8, and 10 p. m. in DeTam- ables him to 'See ·an UI>ban land­ Mi!s·s C 1 ble Auditorium. vanced ' aR •scape with ·a lbi

The Associated Artists of 10-22. LITTLE PEP GRILL Winston-Salem has invited stu- Juror will be Francis W. PIZZA- SPAGHETTI - STEAKS - SANDWICHES dents to submit paintings, gra- Speight, artist, critic, and teach­ Phics, sculpture, drawings, and er, now professor of fine arts Located Opposite Greyhound Bus Station By SUSIE MEMORY portraits for selection in its at East Carolina College, Cash Open 6 Til 10 Every Day STAFF WRITER Second Annual Open Juried prizes will be ·awarded. "Quite a change" is involved Show, to be held in the Arts Interested students should con­ in moving from behind the desk Council Gallery, James Gordon tact Carolyn Hathaway, Exhi­ to in front of it, as about 60 Hanes Community Center, Jan. bition Chairman. education ~&tudcnts involved in the practice 1eaching progvam COLEMAN'S Take Home have found this fall. Since October 1 thctse stu­ dents have been part of a com­ the K & W cafeterias pletely different world-a world INVITE YOU TO DINE WITH THEM TODAY OR ANY ~~ of chalk dust, absentee forms, lesson plans, and fa..scinating DAY AT YOUR CONVENIENCE - AT ANY ONE OF new minds. THEIR FIVE LOCATIONS New Experiences Excellent Food, Service, and Within this world each has disoovered a variety of ex­ Satisfaction periences. Trish Grimsley, .sen­ ior of Whiteville, ·and Bitsy Wil­ WINSTON-SALEM IDGH POINT THE son, senior of Charlotte, have, 422 North Cherry Street 110 East High Street INDIVIDUAL like the majority of their teach­ P'kw'y Plaza Shopping Center GREENSBORO BOX ing classmates, found these ex­ Knollwood at Thruway Friendly Shopping Center periences "very different and very exciting." Mi!.S·s Grimsley teaches an ad­ vanced eleventh grade ~lish Patronize OG&B Advertisers THE clalSS at East FoDSyt.h High FAMILY School, a school with an en­ BUCKET rollment of ·around 1400 stu- ' dents. Miss Wilson is in charge Feeds5to7 of a lllinth grade language, People 1tional arts, and social IStudies class of his at Kernensville Junior High 3.50 School. Optimistic Teacher rom a Ask Ahout The Barrel where "I am so optimistic about !Uneri­ teaching!" iMis.s Grimsley ex-· STUDENTS lla ve .d Let..:. claimed. She began with two analysis study of classroom problems. ed ex­ weeks of observation, during 9 - :rreece. which she met the principal by her supervising teacher and At first it was· "hard to get and was .shown around the !lchoolroom on December 16, i by a professor from the Edu­ used to it, but now teaching will school. Also during this time they all have many V'alu­ cation Departm€1n.t. Supervisors seem.s perfectly natural. I was able experiences look back SnAK noosE'· sb.c observed her supervising .to make spot observatfons from a little discouraged art first on. Both Miss Grimsley and teacher and was given such time to time, and after con­ when I couldn't handle dis­ jobs as grading paper.s to fa­ Mi&s Wilson feel that their time ferring with the supervising cipline problems, but once I has been well-t'>pent. "I'll hate miliarize her with the stu­ teacher give suggestions and established that I w~ the boss t dents. to leave,'' said Miss Grimsley. criticisms to each student. everything woo all right." "I guess the more .involved ''My teacher immedia,tely "There are so many rewards When these hard-world!ng stu­ showed me her list of IS'tudents you get .in the cLassroom, -the to this type of experience," dents finish their tStint .in the more you get out of it." and their .grades, and I made Miss Grimsley said enthusiasti------a seating chart so I could learn Thruway ;tudy. the students ·am.d rtheir abilities Shopping Center y area before I began teaching them," like~=·:th~e 1t's worthwhile. th~~~~~e You ;~u ':~Adventfeel .1.~-.-.s Celeb-..r.tedI -.., she explained. "I even looked i noisy so close :to them. They're all 300 S. Stratford Rd. lfusing intotheir personal backgrounds. just your children." ne?n It helps a whole lot to know Wmston-Salem. N. C. claim • something about your students." Approach Must Fit In Special Services oblems Itn teaching an advanced class, COLLI:NS Miss Grimsley has encountered However, the practice teacher can be finds that her ·approach must Advent, the first LSeason. of -Dec. 11. Clyde Randolph, a few discipline problems. "As the church year, will be cele- Winston-Salem attorney, will ,f their fit itself to the class. Miss Wil­ DEPARTMENT STORE long as you maintain the posi­ brated this year .in a series of present -address. son's class iJS made up of all m "those tion that you are the teacher special programs sponsored by -Dec. 14. A sermon will be you'll have no proMem," she boys from 14 to 17 years old, •U can most of whom have failed at the Baptist Student Union. presented by the Rev. Fred PARKWAY PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER r hard said. "One of the hardest things for student teachers is least one grade since they en­ ng the tered school. includeSpecial addreSISesadvent aetiv1ties by promi- will EndTerry, Baptist Minister Church of ofthe Winston- West ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~g"' :room. keeping the proper relationship nent members of the Williston. Salem. ;tudenrt: between student and teacher. "These boyiS come from lower Salem community, prog11ams -Dec. 15. A. Lewis Aycock, m; door You must remember that you income groups with no cultuval by faculty members, and musi- associate professor of English, to the are the teacher in the stu- advrun.tages," !She explained. cal prog!"ams. will present a program featur- a quiz dent's eyes. They will respect "Most of their families don't Events scheduled in the ad- ing slides of art masterpieces {rom the camera you." leven own a dictionary." vent celebration are: on ChriiSitmas subjects. During the practice .teaching "They can learn, but it's of :ng be- ' -Dec. 'j:_ An address by the -Dec. 16. The Speech De­ eJhip'r(8hore· period each !Student is .graded hard," she went on to say. ~them Rev. Dick Ottaway, Episcopal partment will present ·a special '/,-'PtE5:ton .$tudio e prac- "They have the worst time fol­ Chaplain of Wake Forest Col- Christmas program. ~ J ,/ .,1 ~ noilse, lowin-g directions. But they're lege, will be pres€1n.ted. -Dec. 17. The Rev. string-bow 'le, is not at all apatheerience in the several fields student and !his college com­ graduated before the Civjll War. universdty years ago m what our not assume a person to be either hearsay and rumor so prevalent My father, an editor, was in the mJost unreliable news mag.azine guilty or innocent prior to trial, one of your questions a litUe of endeavor. He ;IQl.ows rt:he munity, That rtenn. tis "sym­ in a small community such as more seriously than you intend­ values of education and he biosis." Symbiosis is the living class of Dr. Wii!liam Louis Po­ 1110w calls our "!Ugh school" Baker is alienating himself from ours. The court is also better ed, but .these ;thoughts have been strives to gain the full advantage together in an intima·te asso­ teat. I, a teacher, natur-ally period. our most cherished judicial con­ protected, in an open system, on my mind for some time now. of his acadei!l.lic pursuits. TJili< ciation of two or more organ­ chose Wake Forest aithough I Edgar E. Folk cept, that a man is assumed in­ against the unfair criticism which You asked, quite innocently student also realizes the value of isms. The associartion is ad­ lived across the street from Van- D€!Partment of Englisb nocent until proven guilty be­ almost inevitably exists in a I'm sure, "What are people at extra-curricular activities. He vantageous, often essenrtial, to yond any shadow of a doubt. closed system. Wake Forest doing now?" I has an interest whiloh lie with ·the life and breath of one or Adds To College know you meant "What are we the Student Government, Col­ both, and not harmful to eWther. Music Dept. doing for kicks?", but my mind lege Union, CHALLENGE, the I think that tthe great diffi­ To the Editor: lend paJtronizing moral supporb Old Gold and Black, or many culty 1n education is to be found to home-grown efforts, if that wandered off in another direc­ I hope ithe students and the of the other college organiza­ has been the case. tion entirely. in the awakening of the student ·st!aff of :the music departmenrb tions. I have found in talking to the full impol'tance and When a performance is ot Renowned 'High School' I began to think just what will continue f its alumni "Rashomon," and refihned is as "The Out­ elsewhere. Alumni includes writ­ of whom it can be proud, and rage." 'The mind responsible for this diabolieal plot ers like Laurence Stallings, Wil­ who will be proud of their alma belongs to that ·~Never on Sunday" girl, IM:e­ liam J. Cash, and Gerald John­ mater-Time Magazine not with­ Whimsey The 1951 Kurosawa original (which was lf!lla Mercouri. She draws upon the "James shown here last J'anuaryl and the Micheal and son. Harold Hayes, editor of Es- standing. B:r DONIA Wlll'I'ELKr Bond" skills of Maxmillian Schell to carry off Fay Kanin play version which was presented the theft. by the College Theater two years ~go) tell the Schell does an admirable job in gathering Eltory of a strange search for .the truth. A ban­ round him a team of escapees from a "Laurel By far the most whlrnsical spirit! How indicarbive of tha·t dit rapes a young woman in a medieval forest thlng I've seen lthis week is a. open-rnindedness .and that gen­ and Hardy" film to steal that which "camJJOt" <>.nd kills her warrior husband. At :the trial Football J oh Well Done IaUter to the editor from one erous 'acceptance of all realms be stolen. Figured down to the last second, the of our State Baptist ministers. of experience within the world which follows, four differilllg versions of the theft is carried off despite the acrophobi~ and rape and murder are told. A holy man, a PI~ Any attempt to offer congra­ omission from the recent college Not that the letter itself was of Man! How reminiscen1 of that cold feet of Peter Ustinov. tulations to \Vake Forest's latest drafts only goes to prove that wltimsical, now, mind you; 'broad-minded tole:rertion and woodcutter, and a rascally wigmaker ponder Eut, alas, despite a terribly suspenseful scene All-American Brian Piccolo or even the professionals are not whlmsical is hardly the word. that spirit of world-wide eman­ the events of the trial and the meaning of truth in which the dagger is lifted, all is last to a infallible. We also feel Coach No, actually, ,it was the en­ cipation hovering in the heavens in a driving rain mear the awesome Rashomon feather. The movie ends, though, on a note of head football coach Bill Tate from sea to sea and shore to gate. velope it came in .that struck hope as Melina, optimistic ·!liS ever, ,schemes to Tate's unprecedented unanimous shore! A bea.utifll!l. envelope, in­ seems trivial compared to the ac­ selection as ACC coach of the my fancy_ The new film version takes place in Silver pilfer the crowm jewels of Russia. It was a beautiful envelope, need. Gulch. Here we have Paul Newman as a Mexi­ colades which they have already year is only an indication of And what of tlle letter itself? When three such notables of the acting pro­ received. Piccolo's selection to the official stationery of a Bap­ can bandit, Claire Bloom a:s a Southern wife, things to come for the ·wake tist chureh in High Point. It was The minister is entirely right: fession as star in this film come together, 1 and Laurence Harvey as her husband, an the various All-American teams Forest football program. For this a :pale seagreen, emblazoned A city beverage company, worthy performances are to be expected. aristocratic Confederate colonel. A disillusioned and the recent ne,vs that he was brig-ht young man from Illinois, across the entire front with a one of those dens of inequity, "Topkapi" doesn'-t fail us. Melina Mercouri, nearly unanimously chosen ACC preacher, a bearded prospector, and a fast­ nothing is impossible. map of the world. does sell beer. But to call it a playing a toned down "Phaed~:a," tunns in a A playe1· of the year speak for his So congratulations Messrs. Pic­ A map of the world on a back­ "beer estabLishment" hardly talking con man tell the story in a decaying wonderful job of acting. Maxmillian Schell, ability. ground of pale sea-green! How does justice to the rest of its train station. likewise, is most convincing as the ·almost in­ colo and Tate on a job indeed vices. We prefer to believe that his well done. symbolic of that cool rationality fallible jewel thief. But Peter Ustinov carries and :that all-embracing world What about its gigantic trade Essentials Are Same in that murky liquid evil, Coca­ off the acting award for this humorous portray. Cola? What about those reports The essentials of the story remain the .same, al of the bungling schmo who, under the LINETA CRAVEN CARL GASKIN Newspapers Get that students have obtained and in some spots screenwriter Micheal Kanin beguilding eyes of Melina and .the promise of Editor Business :Manager there that clear, fizzling bever­ has even transplanted entire sections of dialogue $10,000, provides the muscle for our thieves. Criticism While age, known only by its secret from his Japanese play ver.sion to his western­ The scene where he bids farewell to the code, "7-Up?" I've even heard ized adaptation. But what a difference be­ Turkish secret police is typical min:g Kenan pro­ Irwin Coffield of High Point which asks whe1her the United m fessor iln 1945, Holmes was pro­ PIEDMONT My son re-. Stastes should establish a system the four-man division. acd the Other .colleges parlrl.cipaJting fessor of Romance phl.logy a.t the of public work for tile unem­ UniversM:y of North Carolina. And no will be Duke University, the NORTH CAROLIN~Va~• ployed. He is author of a number of has had) Two Divisions Universi1ty of Noiith Carolina at for ilhe Chapel Hill, Bl"amdeis University, books, inclucllil:g "History of Old OR OVER 40 YEARS Colleges Wlill compete in two French L;i,ter.ature" and "Daily of our alma 1 Brooklyn College, Canisius .Col­ J divisiOOI.S-the fiTst, for two-man Living in the Twelfth Century," teams prepared to debalte both lege, Canisius College, Clemson while I was sides of the query, and the Universlilty, Carson Newman, "REFLECTIONS OF NATURE"- Members Sandra Shockley, the 23 coeds will interpret I decided second, for teams of four de­ Emory University, Capi,tal Uni­ rto enroll for baters, with two taking the af­ versity, , College of Woost­ of Orchesis Dance Club rehearse stream­ insects, storms, flowers and death to the large grad­ firmative sbd.e and -two lthe nega­ er, Georgetown University, lined stretching in preparatio-,n for their sounds of jazz music at 8 p. m. Friday in Challenge'65 to talk to George Washi~on lJni.versity, winter recital. Under the direction of Mrs. the varsity gym. tive. The cllampionship round ri­ cal record, it has been used WAKE FOREST over the years prior to 1950 by students and alumni of other North Carolina colleges to taunt CHERRY ST. AT SIXTH- 725-8791 Wake Forest on what was con­ CALL AND THE BLOWING ROCK SKI LODGE sidered a something-less-than superior liberal arts program prior to 1950." The magazine further stated Gino~s that since the quotation was Visit either of our ski shops and you will find used in a paragraph praising the finest selection of .Ski Apparel and Equip­ Wake Forest's improvements ment anywhere in the South. We are special­ over the past 15 years, "it was . ' Pizzeria not intended as a direct criti­ ists in this field and take particular pride in cism on our part." our unmatched service in the mounting of "It's always interesting to bindings. 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DWIGGINS BY APPOINTMENT F. and the United Nations Model SHINE ARTHUR- t sented under strong faculty "influence" to defer freshman fraternity rush from General Assembly will begin -8BOE BY the regular fall period to a time to be set up at a later date. Tuesday at 6:30 p. m. in Room The vote to pass this amendment was registered at 6-4. Its closeness is indeed 231 of Rcynolda Hall. .'II AKE FOREST BARBER SHOP an indication of the heated discussion and varied opinions that marked the SSL and the UN MGA will be proposal from its origin last ;.rear. Having passed, however, it is interesting to held on successive weekends in look in retrospect at each fraternity's stand on the proposal. February; the United Nations By exploring the individual reasons for each fraternity's voting as it did, sessions will be February 11·13, we can move toward a closer understanding of the direction in which the and SSL, from the 18th to the mainstream of fraternal planning seems to be flowing. In asking frats how they 20th. ~·····~ Wake Fore-st will send two "Shirts Any Way You Like Them" feel in gene1·al about deferred rush, how they voted on the proposal. what delegations to the United Na· Th plan do they prefer for Starch or no starch, folded, or on hangers, tions meetings, each represc!lll­ and GUARANTEED button replacement. the next year, and how rush, Lambda Chi president Thus went the balloting, and ing a different nation. The Bill it will affect them direct­ Ken Moser was personally in a 6-4 affirmative vote was total number of delegates to feet u ly, both monetarily and favor of the motion. He main· achieved. The final proposal the lVIGA is eight. 5 SU!res plans are varied and unde­ the re rush-wise, we are truly taincd that "there is a definite Delegate positiolllS will be The sr grade problem and .something cided as yet, but next fall when granted following screening by l{eynolda Manor enlightened. should be done about it." This school opens, no red carpet will Stratford Rd. footbal Alpha Sigs-Reasoning that a faculty members. Orientntion P£tterson' s Stratford was not uncommon throughout be rolled out to the incoming And three week rush period is not sessions will be heid for those Corporation Parkway the struggle. freshmen. selected. enough time for a freshman to 512 E. Fourth St. few rr get a true fraternal picture at Pi Kappa Alpha-Pika presi· ~.~,.~o~t~IHt~t~o~•~•~o~t~$~.oHt1.~.~.;.;;,:;.~.~.~.~~~•io~e~o~•~•~•K•••~•1•;;•~•~•H•:;•~•;:;•;•;~;; 523 E. Third St- kind a dent Johnny Williams brought •: For Models, Coms, Crafts, Art Supplies, Stamp Accessories, Pharmacy me, en Wake Forest, Alpha Sigs voted ~ out an interesting fact in ex· against the proposaL Presidcmt plaining why his group voted • Party Gags, Etc. dents, Jimmy Speas explained this REXALL AGENCY against the bill. "We don't • Make A Visit To TRY SANITONE! Forest further: "Too often freshmen "World's Most Recommended Drycleaning." YOUR PRESCRIPTION SPECIALISTS over a are swayed by material things favor it as they have it at •: GEORGE'S HOBBY SHOP : :tories, and hesitate to look deeper. other nearby schools (David- son, Carolina, etc.). These col· t 824 W. Fourth Street • promi~ We would be more in favor of FOR THE BEST IN COSMETICS quires a mid-semester rush. Of course, leges which have tried defer- ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••o••••••• •••••J WE FEATURE the absence of freshmen initia­ red rush are trying to get back In lc tion and pledge fees would to !Some form of fall rush." You're Always Welcome At the OVo hurt considerably but the added Williams also pointed out that English Leather- Revlon- Old Spice deject• advantage of seeing the schol­ bigger fraternities would reap Max Factor - Arpenge - Chanel No. 5 some 1 more deferred rush benefits astic ability o-f freshmen would * Complete Automotive Service games more than offset." and that an entire semester of Canoe - Hallmark Cards dirty rush might take place. * Free Pick Up And Delivery ALSO played Grades Affected I. F. C. representative Pete * Efficent, Courteous, Prompt but I~ Clark agreed with WilliamJS on Russell Stover and Whitman's land a. I. F. C. representative Irwin this. "The toughest thing about FOR HAPPY MOTORING ly th01 Coffield, who cast the affirma· SERVICE - SEE US Candies tive vote echoed these remarks: deferred rush would be en­ team i forcing it. It would help us "Fraternities have been hurt 7-9 Mon.-Sat. - 9-8 Sunday rush-wise, but definitely hurt FREE DELIVERY SERVICE TatE grade-wise by blind pledgi!Il.g. money-wise," Clark said. REYNOLDA MANOR CENTER While in our store shopping for PHONE PA 3-4368 141 STRAT:t"ORD DR., S. W. them: Also the freshmen should have was al a. better chance to !See fra­ Strong Support your needs, check the following lack o ternities. was "v Delta Sigs--Bill Brigman, in Sigma Chi-Although ·an esti· departments: were < speaking for Delta Sigs, pointed mated $700 would be lost in out that pressure from the fac­ the change-over month to .the e COSMETICS & TOILETRIES real gr Sigma Chi's, Toby Hale said not m4 ulty and action taken by the FREE****** *FREE BOOKS and STATIONERY athletic department (not al­ his fraternity backed the bill e lowing :fro.sh basketball and to the hilt. Because no one This coupon is good e NOTIONS :football .scholarship boys pledge without a C average would be allowed to pledge, the fraterni· * for one free bag of :first semester) actually left e HOSIERY tieiS would lllOt be burdened Wake Forest fraternities no French fries from Som real choice. with so many second-semester * e UNDERWEAR pledges. really He predicted two key pro­ Hale pointed out that de· * concen blems which will have to be ceptioJ overcome--first, a gross short­ ferred l'll!Sh would definitely Adjoining- Parkway Plaza Shopping Center age of money during the ". . . not hurt us in rush. In * coache changeover semester, and a fact, it would give the fra. the re ternities, as well as the fresh· noticeable social slowdown in * 1204 REYNOLDA ROAD tremer the fall .semester. The Delta men, more time to decide and a Gift He'd Choose ers," r Sigs also favored the propos·al. make a better choice." * pendul Sigma Phi Epsilon-8ig Ep want Three Reasons treasurer Rick Hill expressed that's: Kappa Alpha-K.A.'s, accord- the primary reason for their Himself••• at King's! ing da ing to r. F. c. representative dissenting vote. "We favored Billy Poteat, voted in favor of the idea of deferred rush, but alread: the amendment for three basic were not in agreement to the "We rensoll!S. (1) proven academic \Specific proposal," Hill said. CaroliJ ability. (2) ,general adjustment It was pointed out here that, QUr pr to the college community. (3) although the fraternities would But, w. It would provide to the boys suffer a money shortage, it mainly a better look at fraternities. would be the freshmen them- selves who would be short· is an They favor a second.semester changed. They would be com­ also h1 rush which would allow onlv pletely cut off from the col­ If o: freshmen with a C average ~ lege life-no tra111sportation to that V pledge. Also ·an acknowledged games, dates, laWldry, eating noticeable monetary change out, etc. And, as a result, of in nun would take place, the K.A.'s the cutting off of the freshmen, possibl feel that successful adjiJistment the campU!S would be more son, b< would not be that difficult. ·split than ever thus really pro- will m Kappa Sigma-Butch Lennon, hibiting the freshmen from ob­ ingste president of Kappa Sig and a serving the fraternities a!lld ing a q past I. F. C. officer, expressed vice-versa. says 'I the reasons behind his fra- knows ternity's 'Il.egative vote. He "System Inevitable?" maintained that "Kappa Sigma proslte has always thought that de-, Sigma Pi-I. F. C. representa­ ferred :t"USh on a campiJIS this tive Bob Feree said that al­ small was impossible. On a though "I kind of like the old campus like Ohio State or sytStem," he voted for the pro­ U.C.L.A. it is conceivable that posal primarily because it was Witl you can cut yourself off from inevitable and he saw 1110 basic the mi the freshmen class. However, reason to try and •stop it. Per­ a: on a campus this size, close sonally, Feree said he would been contact is inevitable, thus brimg- prefer a rush period during propos, ing about whispers and event- orientation .similar to that .ternity prised tern is proof enough of this," rush-wise as a result money- rumors Lennon contested. "Wake is wise. ' Wake] jU:St too close-knit a college Theta Chi-Ed Kerr, preiSi· a solid community for this type of dent of the Theta Chi's stated deferred rush to exist." In }( that although deferred rush he is " Negative Vote would intensify rush competi­ tion which is already too keen The tw Lambda Chi Alpha-Lambda and would "cut off freshmen cruitin! Chi's also cast a negative vote, from the student body," his their c and I. F. C. representative fraternity voted yes for schol­ done aJ Steve Ward outlined their rea­ astic reasons. He said that his Coac sons :for doing so. "We voted house would prefer a mid­ put it li ag·ainst it for two basic rea­ semester plaiiJ. for a trial. This to Wal SOIIlS. First, the financial strain plan would help his fraternity would be too great, and sec­ rush-wise, he continued, be­ ship w ondly because we had excellent cause "we don't necessarily Deacon success grade-wise with pledges concentrate on North Carolina as so rr last year. We are satisfied with boys.'' I. F. C. representative the status quo." Ken Thomas added that not .. 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CENTER Wtitt:lt lor flte •·•·• •• , coming to your Old•moblle Qualify Del!ler•• •00111 DIAL PA 3-7114 OLD GOLD AND BLACK Monday, Dec. 7, 1964 PAGE SEVEN ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• To Davidson, 95-88 Wake Hosts USC Quintet YAMAHA ·VIEW IN (i Deacs Lose Opener Tomorrow lllight the Game- cocks of the University of South Carolina inV'ade Winston­ By :BO:B LIPPER Salem to play Wake Forast in SPORTS EDITOR what promises rto be a hard the DEACS Wake Forest broke fast from fought ba!Sketball game. the ~ate, lagged during the The South Carolina team will middle stages, ·arrtd came on get a boost this year from By BOB LIPPER like Silky Sullivan in the !rome· SPORTS EDITOR Coach Frank McGuire, former stretch; it aU amounted to a North Carolina coach, who is thrilling performance, but in returning ;to the ACC after an the end, the Demon Deacons absence of three years. During ELLIS' CYCLE CENTER had dropped a 95-88 decision to this time he coache floats by but I got my biggest thrill in the win over Mary­ ing, but the pressing Deacons all five Wildcats for a bucket. Leonard scored 29 points and The outcome of the game be- could not keep from fouling; Anderson ehipped in with 18. (Photos by Vernor) tween the Deacons and the land and our great comeback in that game. Actual­ and two !free throws by Stone Gamecocks cannot be pre­ ly though, I felt we started to become a football and one by Barry Teague ,s•alted dicted. The South Carolina .team team in the second half against North Carolina." the game .away. is dependent on its sophomores, Three essentials Tate pointed out the fact that he was proud of and i£ they come through, the Deaes Open Fast Gamecocks wm be a very hard he will enjoy •.. the manner in which the seniors per:~ormed and \eam to handle. was also "real pleased" with the conditioning and In the opening minutes of the AFTER SHOWER POWDER • SHAVING FOAM lack of injuries. But the coach also said that he ~ntest, Wake threatened to was "very unhappy over a couple of games. There upset the pre-game odds which AFTER SHAVING LOTION were certain games in which we didn't have a had inJsrtalled Davidson a:s ••. for the man who eleven point favorites. With real great effort, and this is probably my fault for Bob Leonard leading the way, won't settle for the average ••. not motivating the kids properly." the Deacs jumped off to a 15-5 lead at the 14:59 mark. Just one of the many Gifts for Men from YARDLEY Wake's shooting was terrific A Time To Be Reapin' and the Wildcats couldn't seem to .solve coach Bones McKin· Someone once remarked that the football season ney's zone defense. ,' .8tt66lttd ,.·.·: But the honeymoon was short­ : ,.. really begins in December when the coaches can lived and Davidson, 15parked COLLEGE PHARMACY fl concentrate on recruiting. Wake Forest is no ex­ by Hetzel, surged back. A short COR. HAWTHORNE & LOCKLAND , Phone 723·1867 WINSTON SALEM, N.C ception to this rule. At present the Deac assistant jumper by the 6-9 All-America coaches are all out hunting up talent, and thus far center gavi! coach Lefty Drie­ the results are encouraging. "We've received a sell's boys a 21-20 lead with ' tremendous reception from the high school play­ 9:29 left. From that point on, ers," remarks Tate. "This is real gratifying. The the Wildcats never trailed. The first half ended with pendulum may be swinging the other way. Kids LOYD MILES want to !fO someplace and play in a program Davidson boldilng a 45-34 mar­ gin, and in those first twenty • REID YORR ~hat's movmg. D?cember 12th is the official sign­ minutes, the Deacon!s' defense mg date and we ve had some verbal commitments • SID BALL and rebounding, both essential • BU.L SPEECES already. to any success the Deacs may • "W7're looking all over but we're hitting North enjoy this year, failed them. Carolma pretty hard. We think it's important to After its opening burst, Wake lost the edge by being out­ , -our program to get the best boys from the state. muscled .and outpasitioned UD· Bu~. we're not going to make it a policy to have 124-7231 deiUJeath. Though the final fig·­ The second half started 10ut the top sta:rld Wake Forest's rise from the moves indoors for fue winter, VOLUME Noticed last summer, a small bowl games. position) did. Our main pur- the lone spot on the undefeated doormat of the Atlantic Coast the Kappa Sigs have arnrnassed side of the ledger, and scar on the brow of Davidson's Ahl the foobballs have been pose was to pick-up a -change are Conference to a title contendel' a total point output thus far of waiting for a playoff in the All-American center Fred Het­ in was given added recogniion in put aVI!ay and newspapers have the!iJr offense and to find 720.1 points. The Theta Chi's, zel. "Where did you get that told every exci'ting and impor- out where we were being bur¢ losers bracket to decide their the annual post-season awards. former front runners, now find scar, Fred?" tru1t story that they cotlld find. defensively. From this infer- opponent in the finals. Led by Coach Bill Tate's selec­ themselves in second place, 38 "It was at the Olympic Trials. At Wake Forest College , mation we could rtake advan- The Sig Ep's and Theta Chi tion as the ACC's Coach of the points back with a point total are fighting it out in the losers I was playing against Bad News everyone has received his due take of the mistakes which of 682. The 'Big Red" needs 31 Year and Brian Piccolo's selec­ praise •and had his story told they made. bracket for the right to face tion as Player of the Year, the Barnes (Texas Western's All­ only a winter letdown by llie American star). He popped me -except the story that could "We started with our the KA's in he championship Deacons' return to prowess was Kappa SigJS to enable them to game to be held tonight at 8:00. and I went down hard. possibly be the moot impor- basic game plan and from slip back in front. However, if symbolized in awarding the two iant of 1:hem all. That is the there we made our changes "The largest turnout I've ever For either of the two front runners men most responsible for its Barnes helped the dazed Het­ story of how the football team accordingly, Also, the more had," is the way Dr. Dods()n, zel to his feet and commented feel .safe with their lead, they success. met immediate offensive and passes which we threw, the director of the intramural pro- 4 ;• Thirty-on Coach Tate's selection was with a big b['oad smile, "Gee, defensive changes in the op- more calls we had to make should look over their shoulders gram, describes the ibasketball dents were unanimous. This was the first I'm sorry Fred. I didn't mean rposition's strategy. because the quarterback did for llie onrushing KA's who now situation. Play in the winter's to ·appear time tl1is has ever happened. to hurt you. If I had wanted Tecnically the set-up is not have time to pick-up all occupy third pla<'e with 648 major sport begins Dec. 7 with of Who's \'1 Piccolo garnered all but three to, I would have knocked y-our called the spotter system. the defensive changes in his points. ten fraternity and 41 indepen­ leges and of the eighty-one votes cast. head off.'' but rightly it should be call- vision." In bowling lasi. week, fue dent teams entered. The facul Two oilier key performers in North Carolina, for all bel­ ed the inner workings be- Whenever the spotters found dent comrr the Deacon revival, quarterback lowing about Billy "the Kid" hind this year's winning a flaw in either the oppon- group WillS John Mackovic and end Rich­ Cunningham and soph sensa­ season. It is more appro- ents' offense or defense, they sider thos€ ard Cameron, also came in for tion Bob Lewis may well be de­ :priately associated with a immediately informed Tate well-known honors. Cameron, 1\IIackovic's pending on another sophomore military operation. who made his !Plans accord- fool: lor tlte gofclelt arc6es • as the Wh· favorite target, was named for clutch play this winter. Ian Line coach Bill. Davis said, mgly, This season Tate used outstanding along wifu Piccolo to the All­ Morrison, an all-starter from you couldn't have found a l • I 1!100WS TC ... Cliff Low fense, with a total exceeded only man, but still managed to tary endeavor than in our bench to the quar.terback. Student Be by Norman Snead in 1960, was squeeze in a 19.9 average. relay system." The Duke contest, in using 2900 Reynolda Road ous organi2 named to the second team. Both It was Morrison's five straight The basic way in which the •an example, was one gtame in spotter system operated was which the spotter system 100% PURE BEEF HAMBURGERS nominates Cameron and Mackovic were points that !broke open a close that coa.ch Bill Tate had rtbree worked especially well. The CRISP GOLDEN FRENCH FRIES serving of also named to the AC,'C All­ game enabling the Tar Heels -VERNOR PHOTO of his assistants high atop the coaches picked-up a couple those with Academic team. BRIAN PICCOLO picks up some of the 1044 yards he rushed to win their opener last week OLD-FASHIONED SHAKES for this year as he bursts through a hole against South Caro­ against Clemson. stadium carefully viewing the of key flaws in the Duke de- Coach Tate was awarded for opposition. With these coach- fense and then capitalized on his work in bringing a team llna. Last week, the Wake fullback was chosen ACC Player A quick, no-account* * * pre-season es were two phones tha

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