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P:\HANADMIN\TYPE\WPD to PDF Committees\EBC\2002 December 17, 2002 Electoral Boundaries Commission Public Hearings – Edmonton EB-335 9:55 a.m. Tuesday, December 17, 2002 Mrs. Kolebaba: Well, I flew down this morning, and then we will drive back right away. It usually takes about five hours. [Mr. Clark in the chair] Title: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 ................ ebc02 The Chair: We won’t keep you here any longer than need be, then. The Chair: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s now 10 o’clock, so I’d like to call the meeting to order. This is the second day of the Mrs. Kolebaba: Thank you. second round of the Electoral Boundaries Commission’s hearings. We were in Athabasca yesterday and spent an afternoon and evening The Chair: We look forward to hearing you. with the good folks of northeastern Alberta. Today we have, I think, close to 10 briefs this morning, and then Mrs. Kolebaba: Thank you. I wish to address the commission to this afternoon we have a little change in our plan. We’ll be bring forward the concerns of the residents of Northern Sunrise adjourning at around a quarter to 12. I have to leave to go to a county. Thank you for this opportunity. budget meeting for the Ethics Commissioner, but I’m going to ask The proposed new boundary of the Peace River-Dunvegan Mr. Glen Clegg to close off the last session before lunch. We’ll be constituency is unacceptable to the residents of Northern Sunrise reconvening at 2 o’clock, and then we’ll go until we finish this county. Our county will be divided in a way that is not effective nor afternoon, and then we’ll go this evening also. The commission will efficient. The will of the people is to stay in the Peace River reconvene tomorrow morning in Red Deer at 9 o’clock, and then constituency. Every time there’s a boundary review, we are the we’ll be reconvening in Calgary late tomorrow afternoon. target. In the last 20 years our residents have been shuffled between I’m reminded of the story of the preacher who prepared most constituencies three times. This time we ask you not to change our diligently for a sermon. He got to church on Sunday morning, and boundaries. We request that you leave the boundaries where they there were only two people at the service. He thought about it and are at present. More consideration should be given to the trade thought about it. He knew how hard he’d worked on his sermon, so patterns of the residents. The dissecting of Northern Sunrise county he decided to take the whole 20 minutes and give them everything is not the answer to saving the Dunvegan constituency if that is the he’d thought of. He did, and then he finished the service and was goal of the boundary change. You should give consideration to standing at the back door as the one lone parishioner walked out. He taking a portion of the Grande Prairie-Smoky or Grande Prairie- said, “What did you think of my sermon?” The guy said, “Well, you Wapiti constituencies as those two constituencies show more know, I’m a rancher, and when I go out to feed the cows and only population growth than the Peace River area. Removal of the one cow turns up, I don’t give them the full load.” That’s a little bit population from this constituency is not a long-term solution. the way I feel this morning. So having said that, I’m going to save An alternative for the Dunvegan constituency could be my remarks for perhaps later on during the day or after lunch. designating it as a special area with conditions as noted in the draft What I would ordinarily deal with is the background dealing with report of the Alberta Electoral Boundaries Commission 2002-2003. the law, the fact that the Legislature has said that there’ll be 83 seats. This report states that up to four electoral divisions which meet We have to use the 2001 stats, we’re guided by the Charter of special conditions specified in the act may have populations as much Rights, and also if you take the population of Alberta and divide it as 50 percent below the average. With the proposed boundary by 83, you’re looking at 35,951 per riding. Now, that obviously changes we will have a constituency that reaches from the middle of isn’t going to happen, and we have some variance up to 25 percent. the province all the way to the western border. We don’t believe I guess the key thing that we struggle with all the time and with varying degrees of success among my colleagues is: what is that this would be effective or efficient political representation. effective representation? We spent all yesterday afternoon and I have a map here that maybe will show you a little bit better – evening in Athabasca, and we certainly got an earful as to what their and we’ll leave the map with you – how you propose to dissect our sense of effective representation is. I’m sure the same will happen municipality. here in Edmonton today. Once we’re finished the three days of hearings, then we’ll be The Chair: Can we put it on the wall here? Perhaps we can look putting our heads together, and by the 20th of January we hope to at it while you’re speaking. have a final report in place. It’ll then go to the printers. It’ll be available to the Speaker of the Legislature around the 1st of March. Mrs. Kolebaba: Okay. Thank you very much. This map is one- At that time, it will be up to the Legislature, the members of the sixth of our municipality. Legislature to determine how they want to handle the report. The Northern Sunrise county administration office is on one side So without much more comment than that, the procedure I want of highway 688 in the proposal that has put us into the Dunvegan to use this morning is what we have been using and what seems to constituency. The other side of highway 688, to the north and the work quite well. We’ll ask the reeve of the MD of Northern Sunrise east, is in the Peace River constituency. We are too closely to make the first presentation, followed by the mayor of Strathcona entwined to draw a line through Northern Sunrise county like this. county, followed by the town of Devon, followed by the mayor of It divides the people who have the same issues. This proposed Beaumont, followed by the MLA for Clover Bar-Fort Saskatchewan, boundary change would isolate our residents from our present Peace followed by the chief administrator for Viking, followed by a River based media outlets, trading patterns, health care provisions, councillor for Beaver county, then the St. Albert PC Association, and social connections. This proposed change is not the answer. then the Edmonton-Gold Bar PC Association, and then Duncan Changing constituencies again for a portion of the Northern Sunrise Brooks from the Edmonton-Gold Bar association. That’s the list we county is unacceptable to our residents. Our issues in the Northern have for this morning. There’s no rest for the wicked, so I suggest Sunrise county are geographically linked to the Peace River that we move right along. I’d ask the reeve of the MD of Northern constituency. Sunrise to come forward. Once again I thank you for the opportunity to address you with the Thank you very much for coming. I won’t ask you how long it views of the residents of Northern Sunrise. We urge you to hear us took you to get here. I know it took a long time. How long, and to leave the present constituency boundary as is. Merry actually? Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of you on the board. With EB-336 Electoral Boundaries Commission Public Hearings – Edmonton December 17, 2002 no boundary changes to the Peace River constituency, that would be area even by adding that area. I think we’re looking at 1,500 votes a good Christmas present to our people. the way it is now, but certainly there are pros and cons for it, and I Thank you. appreciate your comments. 10:05 Mrs. Kolebaba: Thank you very much. The Chair: Thank you very much. You have a way of telling it the way it is in a pretty concise form. We appreciate that. The Chair: Would you like to then give us the presentation for the Really, what you’re saying to us is to leave the boundaries as they village of Nampa? are around the town of Peace River and in your county. Mrs. Kolebaba: Okay. You have it before you; do you? Mrs. Kolebaba: That’s right. If I may say: in six to 10 years, hopefully, a road would be put through, the east/west connector from The Chair: Yes, we have. Thank you very much. Peerless Lake to Fort McMurray. If that would be the case, then I could see that there would be a shift to a special area in the north, Mrs. Kolebaba: but as it is today, that road does not exist. So if we could be left The village of Nampa will be moved into the Dunvegan alone for one electoral time change, that would be a good thing, and Constituency in the new electoral boundaries review.
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