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Encounter With Heaven - Part 3: Conclusion - By Todd Bentley

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In the ﬁnal segment of Encounter with Heaven Todd shares about his visit with the apostle Paul in the third heaven. As Abraham and David came forward from the cloud of witnesses and looked on, Paul explained to Todd crucial revelatory information about different scriptures in the Bible. You’ll learn (among other things) just how Paul received the revelation of the gospel as it was revealed to him by the Lord Jesus Christ in the third heaven. Then you’ll discover an amazing piece of the puzzle concerning how the Book of Hebrews was written. As well, Paul reveals what the most important passage of scripture is for the church in this hour. Then, after Todd describes the seven heavenly realms that he saw, he’ll bring you back to the most important place, which is your own heart and your personal love relationship with Jesus Christ.

ENCOUNTER WITH HEAVEN by Revivalist Todd Bentley (as edited by FFM Writing Dept) Part 3: Conclusion

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“Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever.” —Ephesians 3:20, 21

This week I want to begin exactly where I left off last week—sitting on the bridge, in the peace of God in heaven, overwhelmed by the beauty surrounding me—completely ripe for whatever God wanted to do. Truly, in that amazing place, the blessing of God touched my life far beyond all I could ever ask or think. What happened next has indelibly marked my destiny, forever, as a son of God.

MY FIRST MEETING

Now it could have been anyone, or any thing, but by God’s design as unbelievable as it may sound, I actually saw the apostle Paul come walking toward me onto the bridge. You might be wondering how I knew immediately that it was Paul. I just perceived it by divine knowledge and revelation. Some things you just know.

People have asked me what he looked like, and so I will attempt to describe his appearance. He was short, not more than 5’1” or 5’2” (I’m 5’6”). He was bald except for a little crown of hair that came around his head. Looking very Jewish with a short, trimmed, white beard, my ﬁrst thought was of a monk in a monastery! He actually had jolly cheeks and I thought: Paul you’ve got a little weight on you! I mean he wasn’t fat but he looked a little pudgy! Funny, eh? But that’s what I was thinking!

He sat next to me and he took his hand and placed it across my chest not saying anything. But I felt like I was receiving an apostolic blessing from a father—“For I long to see you, that I may impart to you some spiritual gift, so that you may be established” (Rom. 1:11). While he touched my chest, Abraham and David appeared out of the cloud of witnesses (Heb. 12:1). Although they were very close (and yet somehow at a distance), they weren’t the main focus. They were simply there as witnesses to an encounter.

Next, Paul spoke to me without words spirit to spirit. I never heard one word but I had instant knowledge of what he was saying. He said that David and Abraham are true fathers—“These are the apostolic fathers”—and I thought to myself: Why Abraham and David? He answered me by saying that there would be no gospel without Abraham. People forget that without Abraham there would be no Israel, or Jewish people (Ps. 105:6–11; Gen. 15:1–5, 18–21; Gen. 17).

Just so you know too, Abraham was taller than David and Paul, about 6’5”. He was a very big rugged looking man, very big boned, large hands, having a long black beard and hair. In fact he looked quite East Indian or Pakistani (in skin color); not like an African man (in blackness), but closer to an East Indian man. He actually didn’t look Jewish at all!

Now David’s appearance was much different from Abraham’s. Having seen Jesus before, I noticed that David’s features were similar to Jesus, the Son of David. Both Jesus’ hair and David’s hair were alike—long brown reddish locks that hung to their shoulders. David’s eyes were blue and he wore a purple royal robe but when he lifted his arm, inside his robe I saw the color blue; it was very kingly. He was very handsome with a short beard and he was really well kept.

GLIMPSES INTO THE APOSTLE PAUL'S LIFE

As I just stated, Paul told me that essentially there would be no gospel and there would be no Israel without Abraham. He said too, that there would be no gospel without David because there would be no divine Son of David (Jesus Christ) in order for the kingdom and His throne to be built upon the throne of David (Luke 1:31, 32). Jesus came through the lineage of David and with Jesus’ coming, the gospel was released.

Paul also said that—in the sense of the revelation of the gospel to the Gentiles—he was the greatest carrier of that revelation to them. He took what Jesus brought and made it available to the rest of the world, and the global evangelism that’s taking place today comes as a result of the revelation of the gospel by the apostle Paul.

Because he didn’t actually walk with Jesus Christ when He was alive on earth like the other apostles did, Paul said that people doubted he was a true apostle. So, he had to ﬁght against that doubtful mindset, because he really was a true apostle. We can read in First Corinthians Chapter 15 where Paul begins to describe why he was an apostle and he says, “Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time” (v. 8). Paul did see Jesus, and I’ll discuss this in more detail later.

PAUL'S HEAVENLY DOWNLOAD DID NOT COME FROM MAN

What’s more, Paul said, “Todd, I want to share with you how I received the revelation of the gospel and I want to share with you some of the encounters that I had in the third heaven.” Thinking: This needs to be in the Bible, Paul, I said “okay” to that. Then, as Paul began pointing out passages of scripture, the Bible opened up to me – boom! Certain scriptures literally jumped off the page; for starters, two verses from the Book of Galatians: “But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ” (1:11, 12, emphasis mine).

After Paul highlighted those scriptures, he asked, “Do you want to know when that (Gal. 1:11, 12) happened?” Of course I did! And so he told me it occurred when the events described in Second Corinthians 12:1–4 took place:

“It is doubtless not proﬁtable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a one was caught up to the third heaven. And I know such a man--whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows-- how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.”

Yes, Paul didn’t preach the gospel according to man, nor did he get revelation in the same way that the other apostles did. Paul’s revelation came through the revelation of Jesus Christ in the third heaven! “Jesus Christ was with me when I was here in heaven, and He shared the revelation of the gospel Himself,” said Paul. Friends, that’s essentially what it says right here in Galatians 1:11, 12 which I just quoted!

In fact, the Bible says that Paul emphasized once more (to the Galatians) that he did not preach the gospel according to man—“. . . that I In fact, the Bible says that Paul emphasized once more (to the Galatians) that he did not preach the gospel according to man—“. . . that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with ﬂesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and remained with him ﬁfteen days” (Gal. 1:16–18, emphasis mine).

To paraphrase, he was saying, “When I got saved I did not talk with ﬂesh and blood and not one single man taught me. I didn’t go to any Bible school and I didn’t hang out with any other apostles. Instead, I spent three years in Arabia in the desert by myself. During those three years I had a third heaven encounter (2 Cor. 12:1–4). That’s when I was taken up into heaven and had visions and revelations of the Lord. I heard inexpressible words which were unlawful to utter.

So let’s track the context of these events. After Paul’s encounter in the third heaven he went up to Jerusalem and visited with Peter for ﬁfteen days (getting to know him better), and he saw James as well (Gal. 1:18, 19). But much later, after an interval of fourteen years, Paul returned to Jerusalem (with Barnabas and Titus) because he had something important to tell the other apostles (Gal. 2:1). And what did he have for the other apostles to hear? It was the revelation that he received in the third heaven which he preached among the Gentiles (2:2)!

REVELATION BY THE SPIRIT OF REVELATION

In fact, I believe Paul’s apostleship was born in the third heaven when he walked with the Lord there.

So, bearing in mind Paul’s third heaven encounter, I want to challenge some of you by asking a few questions. Is there a greater realm than just conferring with other apostles and disciples [even though I believe in all that]? Is there a greater realm than just what man teaches? Is it possible that today by revelation, by the Spirit of revelation, God is teaching believers? Look. Fresh Fire Ministries has a Supernatural Training Centre and I have an internship program. I believe in mentoring, discipling, releasing and raising men and woman up for ministry. But I believe that there are those that can be literally taken into heaven and in one moment in heaven God can give them more than anything they can learn by being with other apostles and disciples.

Furthermore, think about this: Jesus Christ put his hand inside my belly (see Part Two: Heaven is much more than we think), and Paul laid his hand on my chest to give me a father’s blessing. Listen! We need more blessings like this from Jesus Christ and the true apostles. I believe that similar experiences need to happen to you for your encounter in heaven and also for the church today . . . which brings me to my ﬁnal crucial question. Do you want this?

PAUL'S MEETING WITH THE FATHER OF THE FAITH

Back to Paul! I discovered while conversing with Paul that it wasn’t only Jesus Christ who taught him in heaven. I say this because Paul told me: “Abraham taught me, in heaven, and that’s how and why I wrote the book of Hebrews. What I heard was from the lips of Abraham himself.”

I know I’m stepping out on theology now; however, I want you to understand that Paul always made it clear when he authored an epistle —“Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ” or “Paul, a bond-servant of Christ.” Always! Yet, for the Book of Hebrews, although most Bible scholars believe that it was authored by Paul, there are those that really can’t say it was him because the authorship is never clear. Paul told me why. Here is what he said to me. “Do you know why I know so much about Abraham?” [So much of Hebrews is based on other things that you just can’t pull from in other scriptures.] He said, “Abraham himself shared (information) with me and I simply wrote it” (in the Book of Hebrews). “The authorship isn’t clear because it was Abraham and I; Abraham shared with me.” [Much of Hebrews is about Abraham; i.e. Hebrews Chapter 11.] Paul said, “When I was in the third heaven, Abraham was with me like you are with me now.”

THE MESSAGE OF THE HOUR IS A TWOFOLD MESSAGE

Then Paul emphasized that the beginning of First Corinthians Chapter Two contains the most important passage of scripture for the church in this hour. Do you know how it begins? With the message of the cross—“And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him cruciﬁed” (vv. 1, 2).

In fact, when you read First Corinthians Chapter Two, yes, Paul begins by preaching the cross, but he also speaks about the hidden mysteries and he ends with preaching about revelatory gifts and the deep things of God (vv. 7–16). So it’s like Paul was saying (paraphrase): “I was never just (only) a preacher of the gospel and I was never just a man of the gospel and salvation. I was a prophet of visions and revelations. I was a man of prophetic encounters and prophetic experiences. I was a man of the open heavens. I was a man that believed in the revelatory gift of the Spirit of God searching the deep things of God and revealing it to me. We have the mind of Christ!”

He was saying that, above all, God is releasing the message of the cross, the gospel, in power (preaching and salvation), but not without hidden mysteries and not without revelation. So the message of the hour is actually a twofold message. One: the message of the cross. Two: the message released with hidden mysteries revealed by revelation.

A VISIT AT PAUL'S HOUSE

Shuba! Next, I was at Paul’s house and he said to eat the Book of Titus!

Now one of the most striking scriptures in the Book of Titus is the ﬁrst verse where it opens with—“Paul, a bondservant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ” (emphasis mine). “Todd, never just be an apostle or just do signs and wonders.” “No!” said Paul, “be a love slave.”

Immediately after Paul’s counsel I was conscious of the fact that there is something that inﬂuences our thinking when we hit apostle status or senior pastor status that somehow we are above the people. In response Paul said, “Not me. I was a love slave. I was a bondservant and an apostle. But what made me a great apostle was my great love . . . my great love . . .” Then, as Paul’s message touched my heart, I ate an apostle. But what made me a great apostle was my great love . . . my great love . . .” Then, as Paul’s message touched my heart, I ate the Book of Titus while he pronounced: “This is for the sons and daughters that you are raising up.”

You know, it’s about relationship (for instance, fathering and mothering), and if you read through the Book of Titus you can see the intimacy that existed between Titus and Paul. And so I’ve come to appreciate that this book is good nurturing food, just the right kind that a father would want to give to bless his sons and daughters.

Now hang on, because Paul had more in store for me! Next he told me to eat the Book of Hebrews, which is one of the most prophetic books in the Bible! And ever since then, more than ever before, I’m preaching from the Book of Hebrews with much greater understanding.

ASCENDING GOD'S HEAVENLY LADDER

What’s more, several days later I was taken back into heaven to Paul’s house! But this time I didn’t go inside. I stayed outside where I saw a ladder in his back yard like the one described in Genesis 28, Jacob’s ladder. [I’ve come to understand that there are ladders like that in heaven in order to ascend and descend into different realms because heaven has places, geographical places. For example, the ﬁrst heaven is where we live on the earth; the second heaven is the invisible realm of Ephesians 6: 12; and the third heaven where I was with Paul, it’s the Paradise of God (Rev. 2:7).]

So I jumped onto the ladder and began to climb up into another realm. I saw around me that it was all clouds so I began to pull those clouds back. As I did, a hole opened up in the heavens. Immediately then, out of heaven, ﬂowed the color green, not just a light; it was like a green liquid and it was pouring onto my eyes! When I asked God about this, He said, “You are coming into the throne room; you are beneath the sea of glass; there is a rainbow around the throne. It’s not just above the throne; it’s a circle around the throne, a rainbow, emerald, green in color.” [“And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald” (Rev. 4:3).] I had just climbed into the fourth realm of heaven which is the throne room, (with more realms to follow). [You can read Revelation Chapter Four for a good description of the throne room.]

Although I was aware that there were other colors in the rainbow, I focused mainly on three colors—blue, purple, and pink. Therefore, before I share about the other realms I saw, I want to speak about these three colors because I received notable revelation about what each color symbolizes.

Do you know what green represents, besides prosperity? It’s growth, new things, life, growth in the Lord, what you grow into. Blue is revelation, and when you grow into revelation, what does it release? Purple! This color represents authority and kingship. [Revelation and counsel bring might, and revelation releases the true authority which brings the kingdom.] What happens after purple? Pink! Remember, last week I said that pink prophetically represents love and emotions. These two attributes are crucial because faith works by love! So, here’s the download: You grow in revelation; revelation releases authority, and the kingdom comes and rules; and it operates out of emotion and love.

Back to climbing! I went up from the throne room into the ﬁfth realm which is the heavenly city. I saw streets that are golden and mansions and I noticed that it was very different from the Paradise of God (third heaven) where there are hills, still waters, and ﬂowers. It wasn’t as peaceful. Next came the sixth realm of heaven which is the place where the angels live. There is literally a realm reserved for Michael, Gabriel, all the arch angels and all the angels under the arch angels! This isn’t the second heaven, the angel and demon realm, where they battle. It’s just a realm where the angels dwell. Then the last heaven I saw, the seventh realm was other universes and the solar systems; undiscovered universes and planets that God has created.

JESUS IS THE DOOR There could be other heavenly realms; however, I only saw seven. But having said that, friends, really . . . everything I experienced and saw—Jesus, Paul, the seven atmospheres of heaven, and more—when it’s all said and done, it all boils down to Jesus Christ. He is the essence of everything and He is the all in all. He is the way, the truth and the life (John 14:6). It’s about Him! An encounter with heaven is an encounter with the Lord Jesus Christ! It’s about friendship and intimacy with Jesus; He wants us to experience ever-increasing measures of His love and greater glory.

In this hour God wants us to realize that He is causing a great shift to take place in the church. Today He is releasing keys to unlock some of the hidden mysteries and He is giving crucial revelation to willing believers because God is building up His kingdom “on the earth as it is in heaven” NOW. But it’s for those who want it! God is establishing the reality of heaven in our hearts if we will allow Him! Once again, do you want this?

You know, when Jesus died for us on the cross He did so because of the joy that was set before Him (Heb. 12:2). You and I are that joy; the joy not only written on His heart, but on His hands too—“See, I have inscribed you on the palms of My hands; your walls are continually before Me” (Is. 49:16). Now think about this. If we will allow the reality of heaven to be written on our hearts it will be a joy for us, too; because Jesus Christ is the Joy. The reality of heaven is Jesus Christ, and we are His joy and He is our joy, and it’s all written on our hearts!

There’s more. Joy involves pleasure. Remember, we discussed (in the ﬁrst segment) how the covenant with God that Olympic athlete Eric Liddell made, brought God such great pleasure that Eric Liddell could actually feel God’s pleasure! The reality of heaven was written on his heart! Eric overcame and outran all the opposition both in the natural and in the spiritual realms. With all eyes on him, he was God’s man for the hour! Equally, God wants you to run your race as a champion, too; AND YOU WILL!

Also, we took a look at the early explorers and the modern-day astronauts (in the second segment), those fearless ground-breakers who explored uncharted territory on the earth and in the heavens. Remember, the DNA that launched them into the deep is available to you, too! God wants your faith to soar to new heights.

It bears repeating—God wants you to experience the reality of heaven, that heaven is real! And that’s why this teaching-article was written. Yet, ultimately, remember that it’s about Jesus! It all comes back to Him! He is the door and it’s only through Jesus Christ that you and I can enter in to the greater glory and the joy of our Lord. He is the only door to every true encounter with heaven.

“Then Jesus said to them again, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, “Then Jesus said to them again, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep . . . I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and ﬁnd pasture . . . I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.’” —John 10:7, 9, 10b (emphasis mine)

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