Tuarascáil Bhliantúil 2016-2017 Annual Report

TITHE AN OIREACHTAIS

AN COMHCHOISTE UM OIDEACHAS AGUS SCILEANNA

TUARASCÁIL BHLIANTÚIL 2016-2017

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HOUSES OF THE OIREACHTAS

COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

ANNUAL REPORT 2016-2017

32/ES/08

Table of Contents 1. Content and Format of Report ...... 4 2. Establishment and Functions ...... 4 2.1. Establishment of the Select Committee ...... 4 2.2 Establishment of the Joint Committee ...... 4 2.3 Functions of the Joint Committee ...... 4 3. Chairman and Membership ...... 5 4. Meetings, Attendance and Recording ...... 5 5. Number and Duration of Meetings ...... 6 5.1 Joint Committee ...... 6 5.2 Select Committee ...... 6 6. Witnesses attending before the Committee(s) ...... 7 7. Committee Reports Published ...... 7 8. Travel ...... 7 9. EU Mainstreaming ...... 7 10. Report on Functions and Powers ...... 9 APPENDIX 1: Orders of Reference ...... 10 a) Scope and Context of Activities of Committees ...... 10 b) Functions of Departmental Committees (derived from Standing Orders – DSO 84A and SSO 71) ...... 11 c) Powers of Committees (derived from Standing Orders – DSO 85, 114 and 116 and SSO 71, 107 and 109) ...... 14 APPENDIX 2: Membership ...... 16 APPENDIX 3: Meetings of the Joint Committee ...... 17 APPENDIX 4: Minutes of Proceedings of the Joint Committee ...... 23 APPENDIX 5: Meetings of the Dáil Select Committee ...... 94 APPENDIX 6: Proceedings of the Select Committee (Imeachtaí) ...... 96

1. Content and Format of Report

This report has been prepared pursuant to Standing Order 89 (3), (4), (5) and (6) (Dáil Éireann) and Standing Order 76 (3), (4), (5) and (6) (Seanad Éireann) which provide for the Joint Committee to-  undertake a review of its procedure and its role generally;  prepare an annual work programme;  lay minutes of its proceedings before both Houses;  make an annual report to both Houses.

At its meeting on the 23rd January 2018 the Joint Committee agreed that all these items should be included in this report covering the period from 16th June 2016 to 31st December 2017.

2. Establishment and Functions

2.1. Establishment of the Select Committee The Dáil Select Committee was established by Order of Dáil Éireann of the 16th June 2016, to consider Bills, Estimates for Public Services, Motions, and the terms of any international agreement involving a charge on public funds, which come within the aegis of the Department of Education and Skills.

The Select Committee may also consider Annual Output Statements, Value for Money Reviews and Policy Reviews prepared by the relevant Government Department.

2.2 Establishment of the Joint Committee

The Dáil Select Committee, under the same Order, was enjoined with a Select Committee of Seanad Éireann, established by Order of Seanad Éireann of the 21st July 2016, to form the Joint Committee on Education and Skills.

2.3 Functions of the Joint Committee Among the principal functions of the Joint Committee are to consider—  public affairs administered by the Department of Education and Skills;

 matters of policy for which the Minister is responsible;  legislative and expenditure proposals of the Department;  EU legislative proposals;  certain matters relating to bodies under the aegis of the Department of Education and Skills. The Orders of Reference of the Dáil Select Committee and the Joint Committee are set out at Appendix 1.

3. Chairman and Membership Dáil SO 93(2) provides for a proportion of Chairs to be allocated to each group by means of the D’Hondt System. Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin was appointed as Chairman of the Select Committee on 16th June 2016 by an Order of Dáil Éireann. The Chairman of the Select Committee is also the Chairman of the Joint Committee.

Membership of the Committee, including all internal changes within the reported period, is listed at Appendix 2.

4. Meetings, Attendance and Recording

Meetings of the Joint Committee and Select Committee took place in the Committee rooms in Leinster House 2000. Meetings were in public unless otherwise ordered by the Committee.

Committee proceedings were broadcast live within Leinster House and also made available to RTE, TV3 and TG4. Proceedings were also webcast making them available worldwide on the internet. Since September 2014 the proceedings of Committees in public session, typically recorded but occasionally live, are broadcast on the dedicated parliamentary channel Oireachtas TV which is available on these channels:  Saorview 22, Sky 574, Virgin Media 207, eir Vision 504  Vodaphone Channels 201, 207 and 208

An Official Report (Parliamentary Debates) of the public meetings of the Committee may be viewed on the Houses of the Oireachtas website at www.oireachtas.ie.

Copies of other reports published by the Joint Committee are also available on the Oireachtas Committee website pages at www.oireachtas.ie. A list of these reports is set out at paragraph 7.

5. Number and Duration of Meetings

5.1 Joint Committee The Joint Committee met on 26 occasions during the period under report. The number of hours of discussion involved in these meetings was in excess of 59 hours.

The subject matter of each meeting of the Joint Committee, including the groups, organisations or individuals who attended the meetings, is detailed in Appendix 3. The Minutes of Proceedings of the Joint Committee in public session are attached at Appendix 4.

5.2 Select Committee The Dáil Select Committee met 8 times during the period under report and the number of hours of discussion involved in these meetings was 15.06 hours.

In accordance with the Order of Dáil Éireann of 19 July 2016, the Select Committee meeting of 21st July 2016 was to consider business ordinarily considered by the Joint Committee.

The subject matter of each meeting, including the groups, organisations or individuals who attended the meetings of the Select Committee, is detailed in Appendix 5. The proceedings (Imeachtaí) of the Select Committee are attached at Appendix 6.

6. Witnesses attending before the Committee(s)

During the period, the number of speaking witnesses for each of the Committees was as follows:

COMMITTEE NAME NUMBER OF WITNESSES Joint Committee 205 Select Committee N/A

7. Committee Reports Published

During the period under report, the Joint Committee published the following reports:  Work Programme for 2016 and 2017;  Scrutiny of the Education (Admission to Schools) Bill 2016  Positive Mental Health in Schools  Report on scrutiny of the Education (Amendment) Bill 2015 [PMB] and the General Scheme of the Education (Parent and Student Charter) Bill 2016

8. Travel

The Joint Committee undertook the following travel in accordance with its Orders of Reference in connection with its Work Programme.

1. Purpose of travel: Invitation to 27th Economic Forum Date and Destination: 5th – 7th September 2017, Krynica Zdrój, Poland Members travelling: Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (Chairperson) Accompanying Official: N/A

9. EU Mainstreaming

2016

In the period September to December 2016 the Joint Committee considered EU matters at 3 meetings involving consideration of 14 proposals. The Joint

Committee considered that the 5 proposals listed below should be further scrutinised.

Communication from the Commission to the European Parliament, COM(2016)381 the Council, the European Economic and Social Committee and the Committee of the Regions - A New Skills Agenda for Europe Proposal for a Council Recommendation on establishing a Skills COM(2016)382 Guarantee Proposal for a Council Recommendation on the European Qualifications Framework for lifelong learning and repealing the COM(2016)383 Recommendation of the European Parliament and of the Council of 23 April 2008 on the establishment of the European Qualifications Framework for lifelong learning Proposal for a Decision of the European Parliament and of the Council on a common framework for the provision of better COM(2016)625 services for skills and qualifications (Europass) and repealing Decision No 2241/2004/EC (Text with EEA relevance){SWD(2016) 320 final} Proposal for a Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council establishing a European Centre for the Development of COM(2016)532 Vocational Training (Cedefop) and repealing Regulation (EEC) No 337/75

2017

The Joint Committee considered EU matters at 8 meetings involving consideration of 14 proposals. The Joint Committee decided that 1 proposal, listed below, should be further scrutinised.

PROPOSAL NO. PROPOSAL TITLE Outcome Proposal for a Directive of the European Parliament and It was agreed that the Committee of the Council on a write to the Department of proportionality test before Education and Skills to request that COM(2016)822 adoption of new regulation they keep the Committee updated of professions (Text with EEA in writing on developments with relevance) {SWD(2016) 462 regard to this proposal. final} {SWD(2016) 463 final}

No Reasoned Opinions or Political Contributions

No Pre-Council meetings with Ministers

10. Report on Functions and Powers The Joint Committee is currently satisfied with its present procedures and role.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairman 23 January 2018

APPENDIX 1: Orders of Reference a) Scope and Context of Activities of Committees (derived from Standing Orders – DSO 84, SSO 70)

The Joint Committee may only consider such matters, engage in such activities, exercise such powers and discharge such functions as are specifically authorised under its orders of reference and under Standing Orders;

Such matters, activities, powers and functions shall be relevant to, and shall arise only in the context of, the preparation of a report to the Dáil/and or Seanad;

The Joint Committee shall not consider any matter which is being considered, or of which notice has been given of a proposal to consider, by the Committee of Public Accounts pursuant to Standing Order 186 and/or the Comptroller and Auditor General (Amendment) Act 1993;

The Joint Committee shall not consider any matter which is being considered, or of which notice has been given of a proposal to consider, by the Joint Committee on Public Petitions in the exercise of its functions under Standing Order 111A; and

The Joint Committee shall refrain from inquiring into in public session or publishing confidential information regarding any matter if so requested, for stated reasons given in writing, by—

(i) a member of the Government or a Minister of State, or

(ii) the principal office-holder of a body under the aegis of a Department or which is partly or wholly funded by the State or established or appointed by a member of the Government or by the Oireachtas:

Provided that the Chairman may appeal any such request made to the Ceann Comhairle, whose decision shall be final.

It shall be an instruction to all Select Committees to which Bills are referred that they shall ensure that not more than two Select Committees shall meet to consider a Bill on any given day, unless the Dáil, after due notice given by the Chairman of the Select Committee, waives this instruction on motion made by the Taoiseach pursuant to Standing Order 28. The Chairmen of Select Committees shall have responsibility for compliance with this instruction.

b) Functions of Departmental Committees (derived from Standing Orders – DSO 84A and SSO 71)

(1) The Select Committee shall consider and report to the Dáil on-

(a) such aspects of the expenditure, administration and policy of a Government Department or Departments and associated public bodies as the Committee may select, and

(b) European Union matters within the remit of the relevant Department or Departments.

(2) The Select Committee may be joined with a Select Committee appointed by Seanad Éireann for the purposes of the functions set out in this Standing Order, other than at paragraph (3), and to report thereon to both Houses of the Oireachtas.

(3) Without prejudice to the generality of paragraph (1), the Select Committee shall consider, in respect of the relevant Department or Departments, such— (a) Bills, (b) proposals contained in any motion, including any motion within the meaning of Standing Order 187, (c) Estimates for Public Services, and (d) other matters

as shall be referred to the Select Committee by the Dáil, and

(e) Annual Output Statements including performance, efficiency and effectiveness in the use of public moneys, and (f) such Value for Money and Policy Reviews as the Select Committee may select. (4) Without prejudice to the generality of paragraph (1), the Joint Committee may consider the following matters in respect of the relevant Department or Departments and associated public bodies:

(a) matters of policy and governance for which the Minister is officially responsible, (b) public affairs administered by the Department, (c) policy issues arising from Value for Money and Policy Reviews conducted or commissioned by the Department, (d) Government policy and governance in respect of bodies under the aegis of the Department,

(e) policy and governance issues concerning bodies which are partly or wholly funded by the State or which are established or appointed by a member of the Government or the Oireachtas, (f) the general scheme or draft heads of any Bill (g) any post-enactment report laid before either House or both Houses by a member of the Government or Minister of State on any Bill enacted by the Houses of the Oireachtas, (h) statutory instruments, including those laid or laid in draft before either House or both Houses and those made under the European Communities Acts 1972 to 2009, (i) strategy statements laid before either or both Houses of the Oireachtas pursuant to the Public Service Management Act 1997, (j) annual reports or annual reports and accounts, required by law, and laid before either or both Houses of the Oireachtas, of the Department or bodies referred to in subparagraphs (d) and (e) and the overall performance and operational results, statements of strategy and corporate plans of such bodies, and (k) such other matters as may be referred to it by the Dáil from time to time.

(5) Without prejudice to the generality of paragraph (1), the Joint Committee shall consider, in respect of the relevant Department or Departments—

(a) EU draft legislative acts standing referred to the Select Committee under Standing Order 114, including the compliance of such acts with the principle of subsidiarity, (b) other proposals for EU legislation and related policy issues, including programmes and guidelines prepared by the European Commission as a basis of possible legislative action, (c) non-legislative documents published by any EU institution in relation to EU policy matters, and (d) matters listed for consideration on the agenda for meetings of the relevant EU Council of Ministers and the outcome of such meetings. (6) Where the Select Committee has been joined with a Select Committee appointed by Seanad Éireann, the Chairman of the Dáil Select Committee shall also be the Chairman of the Joint Committee.

(7) The following may attend meetings of the Select or Joint Committee, for the purposes of the functions set out in paragraph (5) and may take part in proceedings without having a right to vote or to move motions and amendments: (a) members of the European Parliament elected from constituencies in Ireland, including Northern Ireland, (b) members of the Irish delegation to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, and 12

(8) The Joint Committee may, in respect of any Ombudsman charged with oversight of public services within the policy remit of the relevant Department or Departments, consider— (a) such motions relating to the appointment of an Ombudsman as may be referred to the Committee, and (b) such Ombudsman reports laid before either or both Houses of the Oireachtas as the Committee may select.

c) Powers of Committees (derived from Standing Orders – DSO 85, 114 and 116 and SSO 71, 107 and 109)

The Joint Committee has:-

(1) power to take oral and written evidence and to print and publish from time to time minutes of such evidence taken in public before the Select Committee together with such related documents as the Select Committee thinks fit;

(2) power to invite and accept oral presentations and written submissions from interested persons or bodies;

(3) power to appoint sub-Committees and to refer to such sub-Committees any matter comprehended by its orders of reference and to delegate any of its powers to such sub-Committees, including power to report directly to the Dáil;

(4) power to draft recommendations for legislative change and for new legislation;

(4A) power to examine any statutory instrument, including those laid or laid in draft before either House or both Houses and those made under the European Communities Acts 1972 to 2009, and to recommend, where it considers that such action is warranted, whether the instrument should be annulled or amended;

(4B) for the purposes of paragraph (4A), power to require any Government Department or instrument-making authority concerned to submit a Memorandum to the Select Committee explaining any statutory instrument under consideration or to attend a meeting of the Select Committee for the purpose of explaining any such statutory instrument: Provided that such Department or authority may decline to attend for stated reasons given in writing to the Select Committee, which may report thereon to the Dáil;

(5) power to require that a member of the Government or Minister of State shall attend before the Select Committee to discuss policy for which he or she is officially responsible: Provided that a member of the Government or Minister of State may decline to attend for stated reasons given in writing to the Select Committee, which may report thereon to the Dáil: and provided further that a member of the Government or Minister of State may request to attend a meeting of the Select Committee to enable him or her to discuss such policy;

(6) power to require that a member of the Government or Minister of State shall attend before the Select Committee to discuss proposed primary or secondary legislation (prior to such legislation being published) for which he or she is officially responsible: Provided that a member of the Government or Minister of State may decline to attend for stated reasons given in writing to the Select Committee, which may report thereon to the Dáil: and provided further that a member of the Government or Minister of State may request to attend a meeting of the Select Committee to enable him or her to discuss such proposed legislation;

(6A) power to require that a member of the Government or Minister of State shall attend before the Select Committee and provide, in private session if so requested by the member of the Government or Minister of State, oral briefings in advance of meetings of the relevant EU Council of Ministers to enable the Select Committee to make known its views: Provided that the Committee may also require such attendance following such meetings;

(6B) power to require that the Chairperson designate of a body or agency under the aegis of a Department shall, prior to his or her appointment, attend before the Select Committee to discuss his or her strategic priorities for the role;

(6C) power to require that a member of the Government or Minister of State who is officially responsible for the implementation of an Act shall attend before a Select Committee in relation to the consideration of a report under Standing Order 164A;

(7) subject to any constraints otherwise prescribed by law, power to require that principal office-holders in bodies in the State which are partly or wholly funded by the State or which are established or appointed by members of the Government or by the Oireachtas shall attend meetings of the Select Committee, as appropriate, to discuss issues for which they are officially responsible: Provided that such an office-holder may decline to attend for stated reasons given in writing to the Select Committee, which may report thereon to the Dáil;

(8) power to engage, subject to the consent of the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission, the services of persons with specialist or technical knowledge, to assist it or any of its sub-Committees in considering particular matters; and

(9) power to undertake travel, subject to—

(a) such recommendations as may be made by the Working Group of Committee Chairmen under DSO 108(2)(a) and SSO 104(2); and

(b) the consent of the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission, and normal accounting procedures.

In accordance with Articles 6 and 8 of Protocol No. 2 to the Treaty on European Union and the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (Protocol on the Application of the Principles of Subsidiarity and Proportionality) as applied by sections 7(3) and 7(4) of the European Union Act 2009, the Joint Committee has the power to consider whether any act of an institution of the European Union infringes the principle of subsidiarity; form a reasoned opinion that a draft legislative act (within the meaning of Article 3 of the said Protocol) does not comply with the principle of subsidiarity.

APPENDIX 2: Membership

List of Members of the Joint Committee (The Select Committee membership comprises of Deputies only)

Deputies: Thomas Byrne (FF) Kathleen Funchion (SF) Josepha Madigan (FG) Catherine Martin (GP) Tony McLoughlin (FG) Fiona O’Loughlin (FF) [Chair] Jan O’Sullivan (Lab)

Senators: Maria Byrne (FG) Robbie Gallagher (FF) Trevor Ó Clochartaigh (IND) Lynn Ruane (IND)

Notes: Deputies nominated by the Dáil Committee of Selection and appointed by Order of the Dáil on 16 June 2016. Senators nominated by the Seanad Committee of Selection and appointed by Order of the Seanad on 22 July 2016 Deputies Carol Nolan, Ciaran Cannon, Joan Burton, and Jim Daly discharged and Deputies Kathleen Funchion, Tony McLoughlin, Jan O’Sullivan, and Josepha Madigan nominated to serve in their stead by the Twelfth Report of the Dáil Committee of Selection as agreed by Dáil Éireann on 3 October 2017.

APPENDIX 3: Meetings of the Joint Committee

The following are the details, in date order, of the scheduled meetings of the Joint Committee which took place during the period under report.

Meeting No. Topic Organisations, Groups and Individuals and Date who attended J01 Engagement with Mr. Mr. Pauric Travers, Chair Designate of the 07/07/2016 Pauric Travers, Educational Research Centre (ERC). Chairperson Designate, Educational Research Centre (ERC)

J02 Mid-year review of the Minister for Education and Skills 21/09/2016 Revised Estimates for Public Services - Vote 26 – Department of Education and Skills and 2017 Expenditure Proposals

J03 Session A: Non payment Session A: Representatives from Wake Up 13/10/2016 of maintenance grants to SUSI students attending private higher education colleges

Session B: Engagement Session B: Mr. Michael Horgan, with Mr. Michael Horgan, Chairperson Designate, Higher Education Chairperson Designate, Authority (HEA) Higher Education Authority (HEA)

J04 The Proposed New Officials from the Department of Education 27/10/2016 Model for Allocating and Skills and the National Council for Teaching Resources for Special Education (NCSE) Children with Special Educational Needs; an update on the Pilot of the new Allocation Model which took place in a number of schools during 2015/16; and the recently published Policy Advice by the National Council for Special Education (NCSE) on Supporting Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder in Schools

Meeting No. Topic Organisations, Groups and Individuals and Date who attended J05 Findings of Investing in Session 1: Engagement with University 10/11/2016 National Ambition: a Presidents [Dublin City University (DCU), Strategy for Funding Maynooth University, National University Higher Education, Report of Ireland Galway (NUIG), Trinity College of the Expert Group on Dublin and University of Limerick (UL)]; Future Funding for Senior Vice President Academic & Higher Education Registrar at University College Cork (UCC and representatives from the Irish Universities Association (IUA)

Session 2: Engagement with Interim CEO of the Technological Higher Education Association (THEA) and Institutes of Technology Presidents [Athlone, Dundalk, Galway-Mayo, Letterkenny, Limerick, Tralee and Waterford Institutes of Technology]. J06 Session A: Overview of Session A: Engagement with Mr. Peter 24/11/2016 the findings of Investing Cassells, Chairperson of the Expert Group in National Ambition: a on the Future Funding of Higher Strategy for Funding Education, and Dr. Aedín Doris, Academic Higher Education, Report at Maynooth University. of the Expert Group on Future Funding for Higher Education

Session B: Observations Session B: Representatives from Dublin and insights into the City University (DCU) School of Business; findings of Investing in Maynooth University Department of National Ambition: a Education; Kemmy Business School at Strategy for Funding University of Limerick (UL); National Higher Education, Report University of Ireland Galway (NUIG); of the Expert Group on Trinity College Dublin; University College Future Funding for Dublin (UCD) School of Mechanical and Higher Education Materials Engineering and University College Cork (UCC) J07 Observations and Session 1: Representatives from Irish 08/12/2016 insights into the findings Second-Level Students’ Union (ISSU); of Investing in National Union of Students in Ireland (USI); Trinity Ambition: a Strategy for College Students’ Union; Royal Irish Funding Higher Academy; National University of Ireland Education, Report of the Galway (NUIG) and University College Expert Group on Future Cork (UCC) Funding for Higher Education Session 2: Representatives from IBEC; Irish Congress of Trade Unions; Social Justice Ireland; National Youth Council of Ireland; Irish Farmers Association and Higher Education Colleges Association

Meeting No. Topic Organisations, Groups and Individuals and Date who attended J08 Scrutiny of the Education Representatives from Atheist Ireland; 15/12/2016 (Admission to Schools) Evangelical Alliance Ireland; Ahmadiyya Bill 2016 Muslim Community of Ireland; Cearta Oideachais; Gaeloideachas; Education Equality; Educate Together; Catholic Primary Schools Management Association (CPSMA); Education and Training Boards Ireland (ETBI); Church of Ireland, EQUATE and National Association of Boards of Management in Special Education (NABMSE) J09 Private Meeting N/A 24/01/2017 J10 Scrutiny of the Equal Representatives from the Association of 07/02/2017 Status (Admission to Community and Comprehensive Schools; Schools) Bill 2016 the Catholic Primary Schools Management Association; An Foras Pátrúnachta; the General Synod Board of Education of the Church of Ireland; the Muslim Primary Education Board; and the Joint Management Body. J11 Positive Mental Health in Representatives from Moodwatchers; 21/02/2017 Our Schools Crooked House Theatre Company; the School of Human Development at Dublin City University; Jigsaw Mental Health Services; and the National Behaviour Support Services. J12 Detailed Scrutiny of the Officials from the Department of Education 07/03/2017 Education (Amendment) and Skills; Department of Children and Bill 2015 [PMB] and Pre- Youth Affairs and Department of Public Legislative scrutiny of the Expenditure and Reform. Representatives General Scheme of an from the Office of Ombudsman for Education (Parent and Children; the Office of the Ombudsman; Student Charter) Bill the National Parents' Council Primary; the 2016 Irish Primary Principals' Network and the Special Needs Parents' Association.

Meeting No. Topic Organisations, Groups and Individuals and Date who attended J13 Session A: Detailed Session A: Representatives from the 21/03/2017 Scrutiny of the Education Association of Secondary Teachers (Amendment) Bill 2015 Ireland (ASTI); Teachers’ Union of Ireland [PMB] and Pre- (TUI); Irish National Teachers’ Legislative scrutiny of the Organisation (INTO); Irish Second-Level General Scheme of an Students’ Union (ISSU and National Education (Parent and Parents’ Council Post Primary (NPCpp). Student Charter) Bill 2016

Session B: The Session B: Representatives from Higher Implications of Brexit for Education Authority (HEA); Irish Research the Irish Educational Council (IRC); Dublin City University System (DCU); University College Dublin (UCD) Research; Irish Universities Association; British-Irish Chamber of Commerce and International School of Dublin. J14 Private Meeting N/A 04/04/2017 J15 Future Funding of Higher Engagement with Dr. Charles Larkin; Dr. 02/05/2017 Education in light of the Shaen Corbet; Dr. Aedín Doris, Academic Cassells Report at Maynooth University and Dr. Darragh (including Income Flannery, Academic at University of Contingent Loans in Limerick Ireland for Higher Education Financing)

J16 Discussion on Representatives from Building and Allied 16/05/2017 submissions received in Trades' Union (BATU); Construction relation to the Industry Federation (CIF); Centre of Craft Committee's review of Studies at Cork Institute of Technology; Skills and Education and Training Boards Ireland Apprenticeships (ETBI); Irish Hotels Federation (IHF) and schemes SOLAS.

Meeting No. Topic Organisations, Groups and Individuals and Date who attended J17 Session A: Pre- Session A: Representatives from An Foras 30/05/2017 Legislative Scrutiny of Pátrúnachta; Association of Community the Education and Comprehensive Schools (ACCS); (Amendment) Bill 2015 National Association of Boards of and the General Scheme Management in Special Education of an Education (Parent (NABMSE); Joint Managerial and Student Charter) Bill Body/Association of Management of 2016 Catholic Secondary Schools (JMB/AMCSS); Catholic Primary Schools Management Association (CPSMA); Education and Training Boards Ireland (ETBI); Muslim Primary Education Board (MPEB); Educate Together and General Synod Board of Education of the Church of Ireland.

Session B: Engagement Session B: Representatives from Caranua with Caranua

J18 Private Meeting N/A 13/06/2017 J19 Review of the adequacy Engagement with Dr. Áine Hyland, 27/06/2017 of the training and Emeritus Professor of Education at supports available to University College Cork, and providers of special representatives from the Irish National needs education, and Teachers’ Organisation (INTO); Marino education in DEIS Institute of Education; National Association schools of Boards of Management in Special Education (NABMSE); National Council for Special Education (NCSE); Scoil an Naomh Uilig and St. Anne’s Special School. J20 Matters related to the Officials from the Department of Education 11/07/2017 operation of the School and Skills, and representatives from Bus Transport Scheme Éireann; the National Council for Special Education (NCSE); the National Association of Boards of Management in Special Education (NABMSE);, and the National Parents’ Council Primary. J21 Private Meeting N/A 18/07/2017 J22 Engagement with Minister for Education and Skills 26/09/2017 Minister in relation to breaches in fire safety in a number of primary schools nationwide

Meeting No. Topic Organisations, Groups and Individuals and Date who attended J23 Tackling obesity and the Session 1: Engagement with Ms. Claire 24/10/2017 promotion of healthy Heneghan B.Ed., MSc.; representatives eating in schools from Healthy Kidz; and officials from the Department of Education and Skills

Session 2: Engagement with Dr Celine Murrin and Dr Silvia Bel-Serrat, National Nutrition Surveillance Centre (UCD); representatives from Bord Bia; Irish Heart Foundation; Safe Food; and officials from the Department of Health J24 Session A: Home School Session A: Ms. Aisling Browne and Ms. 07/11/2017 Community Liaison Jenny Gannon, Home School Community Scheme Liaison Teachers, officials from the Department of Education and Skills; and representatives from the Irish National Teachers' Organisation (INTO); TUSLA, and Foróige

Session B: WorldSkills Session B: Irish WorldSkills 2017 Competition 2017, Abu delegation; and representatives from Dhabi SOLAS WorldSkills Competition 2017, Abu Dhabi

J25 Session A: The ongoing Session A: Mr. John Doran, Guidance 21/11/2017 reform of the Leaving Counsellor; Dr. Katriona O'Sullivan, Certificate Curriculum Academic, Maynooth University; officials from the Department of Education and Skills, the State Examinations Commission, and representatives from the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment (NCCA); the Irish Second- Level Students' Union (ISSU); the Teaching Council; National Parents' Council Post-Primary and IBEC

Session B: Comhairle na Session B: Comhairle na nÓg National nÓg Executive J26 Challenges facing our Representatives from Education and 19/12/2017 island schools Training Boards Ireland (ETBI); Galway & Roscommon Education and Training Board (GRETB); Donegal Education and Training Board; Coláiste Ghobnait, Inis Oírr; Coláiste Naomh Éinne, Inis Mór; Coláiste Naomh Eoin, Inis Meáin; Gaelscoileanna Teoranta/Gaeloideachais and Irish National Teachers’ Organisation (INTO)

APPENDIX 4: Minutes of Proceedings of the Joint Committee

SELECT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THURSDAY, 21 JULY 2016

The Select Committee met in private session at 15.08 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

(While it was a meeting of the Select Committee, Senators had been appointed to the Seanad Select Committee on Education and Skills earlier that afternoon and were invited to attend what would, in normal circumstances, be a meeting of the Joint Committee)

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Jim Daly, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair),

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher and Lynn Ruane attended in accordance with Seanad Standing Order 79(2).

Apologies were received from Deputy Catherine Martin.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee suspended from 15.25 p.m. until 15.45 p.m. and from 15.51 p.m. to 16.03 p.m. for Dáil votes

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 16.32 p.m., sine die.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 7 September 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, 7 SEPTEMBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 11.02 a.m. in Committee Room 4, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair)

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 11.03 a.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into Public Session at 12.27 p.m.

EU SCRUTINY

The Committee decided that it would like to further scrutinise COM(2016)382, a Proposal for a Council Recommendation on establishing a Skills Guarantee, and COM(2016)383, a Proposal for a Council Recommendation on the European Qualifications Network for lifelong learning and repealing the Recommendation of the European Parliament and of the Council of 23 April 2008 on the establishment of the European Qualifications Framework for lifelong learning.

The Committee agreed that it did not propose to further scrutinise the following Commission proposals COM(2016)1, 61, 78, 185, 210 and 242.

The Committee suspended at 12.28 p.m. to allow the Witness take his seat and resumed, in Public Session, at 12.30 p.m.

ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CHAIRPERSON DESIGNATE OF THE EDUCATIONAL RESEARCH CENTRE

The Committee met with Mr. Pauric Travers, Chairperson Designate of the Educational Research Centre.

Members engaged in a questions and answers session with the witness.

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 13.13 p.m., sine die.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 29 September 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THURSDAY, 29 SEPTEMBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 9.03 a.m. in Committee Room 4, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Ciarán Cannon, Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, and Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair)

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane

PUBLIC SESSION

2. DISCUSSION WITH MR. RICHARD BRUTON TD, MINISTER FOR EDUCATION AND SKILLS, ON THE MID TERM REVIEW OF THE 2016 ESTIMATES AND 2017 PROPOSALS

The Chair welcomed the Minister and his Officials to the meeting and the Minister made an Opening Statement.

The Chair conveyed Minister of State John Halligan’s apologies as he could not attend.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the Minister for engaging in an informative and productive discussion.

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 11.27 a.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 12.02 p.m. until 13 October 2016

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 13 October 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, 13 OCTOBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 9.03 a.m. in Committee Room 4, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Ciarán Cannon, Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair)

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher and Trevor Ó Clochartaigh.

Apologies were received from Senator Lynne Ruane.

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 9.03 a.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into Public Session at 9.32 a.m.

EU SCRUTINY

The Committee agreed to to seek a written response from the Department of Education and Skills regarding COMs (2016) 381, 382 and 383 (which are part of the same suite of measures) and COM (2016) 532.

The Committee agreed that it did not propose to further scrutinise the following Commission proposals COMs (2016) , 490 and 554.

The Committee suspended from 9.33 am to 9.34 am and resumed in Public Session.

PRESENTATION BY WAKE UP SUSI ON THE NON PAYMENT OF MAINTENANCE GRANTS TO STUDENTS IN PRIVATE COLLEGES

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Mr. Pierce Connolly, Griffith College; Wake Up Susi Chair; Ms. Alisha Houlihan, Griffith College; Ms. Suzanne Quin Griffith College Mr. Martin Byrnes, Irish College of Humanities and Applied Sciences; Ms. Emma O’Sullivan, Dublin Business School; Mr. James Roberts, Dublin Business School.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses for their informative presentation and assured them that it would inform the Committee’s deliberations on the future funding of higher education.

ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CHAIRPERSON DESIGNATE OF THE HIGHER EDUCATION AUTHORITY (HEA)

The Committee met with Mr. Michael Horgan, Chairperson Designate of the Higher Education Authority.

Members engaged in a questions and answers session with Mr. Horgan.

It was agreed to send a letter to the Minister for Education & Skills approving the appointment.

The Committee suspended from 11.12 a.m. to 11.15 a.m. and resumed in Public Session.

MOTIONS

The Chair referred to two motions that had been submitted by Deputy Thomas Byrne and Deputy Catherine Martin respectively and an Amendment to each Motion submitted by Deputy Jim Daly. The Motions all refer to the 10% loss of marks to Junior Certificate English Examination Students in ASTI staffed schools.

The Chair read the two Motions into the record.

Deputy Byrne withdrew his Motion after outlining the reasons for the withdrawal. Deputy Daly’s Amendment to Deputy Byrne’s Motion thus fell.

Deputy Martin moved her Motion and spoke on it.

The Chair read the Amendment to Deputy Martin’s Motion from Deputy Daly into the record.

Deputy Daly moved his Amendment to Deputy Martin’s Motion and spoke on the Amendment.

The question was put that the Amendment to the Motion be agreed to. A Voice Vote ensued whereby the Question was carried (Deputies Cannon, Daly and Senator Byrne indicated Tá; Deputy Martin indicated Níl and Deputies Byrne and O’Loughlin abstained)

Before the question was put on whether the Amended Motion was agreed to, Deputy Martin withdrew her Motion. Deputy Jim Daly withdrew his Amendment to the Motion.

It was agreed that at the next meeting the Committee will discuss sending Resolutions to the Minister for Education and Skills or other relevant Ministers in future on important issues as an alternative to submitting Motions. Such Resolutions would be collectively agreed by the Committee.

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 11.34 a.m., until 27 October 2016.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 27 October 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, 27 OCTOBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 9.09 a.m. in Committee Room 1, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Ciarán Cannon, Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair)

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher and Trevor Ó Clochartaigh.

Apologies were received from Senator Lynn Ruane.

Senator Colette Kelleher attended the meeting.

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 9.10 a.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into Public Session at 9.18 am

COMMITTEE RESOLUTIONS

When topical issues of national importance arise, it was agreed that the Committee will consider reporting to both Houses agreed resolutions. It will also send the resolutions to the Minister for Education and Skills and/or other relevant Ministers for an urgent response. The wording of such resolutions can be collectively agreed by the Committee. Members can let the Chair know in advance if they wish to put down a resolution for discussion nad collective agreement.

The Committee suspended at 9.21 am and resumed in Public Session at 9.23 am

PRESENTATION BY OFFICIALS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND SKILLS AND THE NATIONAL COUNCIL FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION

The Chair welcomed the following officials to the meeting:

Mr. Dalton Tatton, Assistant Secretary, Special Education Section, Department of Education and Skills (DES). Mr. Jim Mulkerrins, Principal Officer, Special Education Section, Department of Education and Skills (DES). Ms Teresa Griffin, Chief Executive Officer, National Council for Special Education (NCSE). Ms Mary Byrne, Head of Special Education, NCSE.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the Officials for their comprehensive briefing on an issue of fundamental importance not only to children with special needs and their parents but to society as a whole.

MEETING REGARDING CURRENT INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS ISSUES REGARDING THE ASSOCIATION FOR SECONDARY TEACHERS OF IRELAND (ASTI)

It was agreed that the Committee will convene a meeting on 3rd November next at 12 noon on the current industrial relations issues with the ASTI, as follows:

Session 1: ASTI (12 noon to 1.00 pm)

Session 2: Department of Education and Skills Officials (1.00 pm to 2.00 pm)

Session 3: Joint Managerial Body (JMB) and the Association of Community and Comprehensive Schools (ACCS) (2.00 pm to 3.00 pm).

Deputy Catherine Martin took the Chair at 11.27 am as the Chair had to attend to other important business. Her temporary chairmanship was proposed by Senator Robbie Gallagher and seconded by Deputy Thomas Byrne.

LETTER TO MINISTER FOR EDUCATION AND SKILLS It was agreed that the Chair will send a letter to the Minister for Education and Skills referring to his launch of An Pholasaí don Oideachas Gaeltachta 2017-2022 in Connemara on 28 October 2016.

It will state that the Committee Members would like to convey their serious dismay that they and other relevant stakeholders did not receive invitations to the aforementioned launch.

It will also state that the Committee is concerned that Members haven’t been invited to other launches such as the Department of Education and Skills Strategy Statement and Action Plan for Education 2016-2019 and ask to be invited to relevant launches in the future and that it may convene a meeting with the Minister to discuss this issue at some stage.

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 11.32 am. until 3 November 2016

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 3 November 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, 10 NOVEMBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 9.08 a.m. in Committee Room 3, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Joan Burton, Thomas Byrne, Ciarán Cannon, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair)

Senators: Robbie Gallagher and Lynn Ruane

Apologies were received from Senators Maria Byrne and Trevor Ó Clochartaigh

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 9.09 a.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into Public Session at 9.21 a.m.

DISCUSSION WITH THE CEO OF THE IRISH UNIVERSITIES ASSOCIATION (IUA) AND THE UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS AND HEAD OF COLLEGE OF BUSINESS AND LAW UCC ON THE FINDINGS OF INVESTING IN NATIONAL AMBITION: A STRATEGY FOR FUNDING HIGHER EDUCATION, REPORT OF THE EXPERT GROUP ON THE FUTURE FUNDING FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Mr. Ned Costello, CEO, Irish Universities Association (IUA)

Professor Don Barry, President, University of Limerick (and Chair of IUA 2016) Professor Brian MacCraith, President, Dublin City University. Professor Philip Nolan, President, Maynooth University. Professor Andrew Deeks, President, University College Dublin. Dr. James Browne, President, National University of Ireland, Galway. Dr. Patrick Prendergast, Provost, Trinity College Dublin. Professor Ursula Kilkelly, Head of College of Business and Law, University College Cork

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses for engaging in such an informative and productive session.

DISCUSSION WITH THE INTERIM CEO OF THE TECHNOLOGICAL HIGHER EDUCATION ASSOCIATION (THEA) AND INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY PRESIDENTS ON THE FINDINGS OF INVESTING IN NATIONAL AMBITION: A STRATEGY FOR FUNDING HIGHER EDUCATION, REPORT OF THE EXPERT GROUP ON THE FUTURE FUNDING FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Professor Tom Collins, Interim CEO, Technological Higher Education Association (THEA) Dr. Fergal Barry, President, Galway Mayo Institute of Technology. Ms Ann Campbell, President, Dundalk Institute of Technology. Mr Paul Hannigan, President, Letterkenny Institute of Technology. Professor Willie Donnelly, President, Waterford Institute of Technology. Professor Ciarán Ó Cátháin, President, Athlone Institute of Technology. Professor. Vincent Cunnane, President, Limerick Institute of Technology Dr. Oliver Murphy, President, Institute of Technology Tralee.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses foe engaging in such an informative and productive session

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at p.m., until 24 November 2016

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 24 November 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, 24 NOVEMBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 9.05 a.m. in Committee Room 4, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Joan Burton, Thomas Byrne, Ciaran Cannon, Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair),

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 9.06 a.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into Public Session at 9.55 a.m.

EU SCRUTINY

The Committee agreed to seek a written response from the Department of Education and Skills regarding COMs (2016) 382 and 625.

The Committee agreed that it did not propose to further scrutinise the following Commission proposals COMs (2016) 381, 383, 532 and 622.

The Committee suspended from 9.56 am to 9.58 am and resumed in Public Session.

OVERVIEW OF THE FINDINGS OF INVESTING IN NATIONAL AMBITION: A STRATEGY FOR FUNDING HIGHER EDUCATION, REPORT OF THE EXPERT GROUP ON THE FUTURE FUNDING FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Mr. Peter Cassells, Chair of the Expert Group. Dr. Aedín Doris, NUI Maynooth, Report Researcher.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses for engaging in such an informative and productive session.

OBSERVATIONS AND INSIGHTS OF PRACTISING ACADEMICS AND RESEARCHERS ON THE FINDINGS OF INVESTING IN NATIONAL AMBITION: A STRATEGY FOR FUNDING HIGHER EDUCATION, REPORT OF THE EXPERT GROUP ON THE FUTURE FUNDING FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Professor Michael Gilchrist, School of Mechanical and Materials Engineering, University College Dublin. Professor John Boland, Dean of Research, Trinity College Dublin. Mr Patrick Lonergan, Professor of Drama and Theatre Studies, NUI Galway. Dr Caroline McMullan, Associate Dean for Teaching and Learning, DCU Business School. Professor Aislinn O’Donnell, Coordinator of Structured PhD and M. Litt Programmes, Department of Education from NUI Maynooth. Dr Michele O’Dwyer, Associate Dean, Kemmy Business School, University of Limerick. Dr Niamh Hourigan, Senior Lecturer, University College Cork.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses for engaging in such an informative and productive session.

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 1.48 p.m., until 8 December 2016

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 8 December 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THURSDAY, 8 DECEMBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 9.06 a.m. in Committee Room 4, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Ciaran Cannon, Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair)

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher and Lynn Ruane

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 9.07 a.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into Public Session at 9.20 a.m.

ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION ON THE FINDINGS OF INVESTING IN NATIONAL AMBITION: A STRATEGY FOR FUNDING HIGHER EDUCATION, REPORT OF THE EXPERT GROUP ON THE FUTURE FUNDING FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Ms Catherine McGuinness, Chair of the Governing Authority at NUI Galway Professor John Hegarty the Royal Irish Academy Ms Catherine Day, Chair of the Governing Authority, University College Cork. Ms Annie Hoey, President of the Union of Students in Ireland. Mr Kieran McNulty, President of the Student’s Union at Trinity College Dublin. Dr. James Browne, President, National University of Ireland, Galway. Dr. Patrick Prendergast, Provost, Trinity College Dublin. Ms Jane M Hayes Nally, President of the Irish Second Level Students Union

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses for engaging in such an informative and productive session.

The Committee suspended from 11.27 am to 11.35 am and resumed in Public Session.

ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION ON THE FINDINGS OF INVESTING IN NATIONAL AMBITION: A STRATEGY FOR FUNDING HIGHER EDUCATION, REPORT OF THE EXPERT GROUP ON THE FUTURE FUNDING FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Mr Tony Donohoe, Director of Education at IBEC. Professor John Hegarty, the Royal Irish Academy. Mr Richard Kennedy, Deputy President of the Irish Farmers Association. Ms Patricia King, General Secretary of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions. Mr James Doorley, Deputy Director of the National Youth Council of Ireland. MS. Michelle Murphy, Research and Policy Analyst, Social Justice Ireland. Professor Diarmuid Hegarty, Chair of the Higher Education Colleges Association.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses for engaging in such an informative and productive session.

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 12.40 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on the 15th December.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 15th December 2016

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF THURSDAY, 15 DECEMBER 2016

The Joint Committee met at 14.40 p.m. in Committee Room 3, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Ciaran Cannon, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan, Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair),

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Aodhán Ó’Riordáin (substituting for Deputy Joan Burton) Lynn Ruane

Apologies received from Deputy Jim Daly and Deputy Joan Burton.

Also in attendance Senator Fintan Warfield in accordance with SO 79(2)

PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into private session at 14.41 p.m.

ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

The Committee went into Public Session at 15.07 p.m.

ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION ON EDUCATION (ADMISSION TO SCHOOL) BILL 2016

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Mr Paul Rowe, Chief Executive Officer, Education Together Breda Corr, General Secretary, National Association of Boards of Management in Special Education Bláthnaid Ní Ghréacháin, GaelOideachais

Dr Ríona Ní Fhrighil, Cearta Oideachais Pat O’Mahony, Education Policy and Research Officer, Education and Training Boards Ireland Jane Donnelly, Atheist Ireland, Evangelical Alliance Ireland and Ahmadiyya Muslim Community of Ireland Sarah Lennon & Paddy Monahan, Education Equality Anthony Muldoon & Dr Eoin Daly, Equate Ireland

Senator Lynn Ruane took over as Chair at 15.46 p.m.

A questions and answers session ensued following which the Chair thanked the witnesses for engaging in such an informative and productive session.

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 17.10 p.m. until 4.00 p.m. on Tuesday 24th January 2017.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 24th January 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY, 24 JANUARY 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.04 p.m. in Committee Room 1 LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair)

Senators: Maria Byrne and Robbie Gallagher.

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ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 17.15 p.m. until Tuesday 7 February 2017.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 7th February 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY, 7 FEBRUARY 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.07 p.m. in Committee Room 2 LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair) Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin, Joan Burton and Ciarán Cannon.

Senators: Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Senator Mary – Alice Higgins (substituting for Senator Lynn Ruane).

Apologies were received from –

Deputy Carol Nolan Senator Maria Byrne

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SUSPENSION OF MEETING

The meeting was suspended at 4.17p.m. to allow for witnesses take their places.

PUBLIC SESSION

The meeting resumed in PUBLIC SESSION at 4.21 p.m.

SCRUTINY OF THE EQUAL STATUS (ADMISSION TO SCHOOLS) BILL 2016 THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Mr. Seamus Mulconry, Catholic Primary Schools Management General Secretary Association (CPSMA) Ms. Miriam McCabe, Catholic Primary Schools Management Education Advisor Association (CPSMA) Mr. John Irwin, Association of Community and Assistant General Secretary Comprehensive Schools (ACCS) Ms. Antoinette Nic Gearailt, Association of Community and President Comprehensive Schools (ACCS) Mr. John Curtis, Joint Managerial Body (JMB) General Secretary Fr. Paul Connell, Joint Managerial Body (JMB) President Ms. Asiya Al-Tawash, Muslim Primary Education Board (MPEB) Ms. Fardus Sultan Muslim Primary Education Board (MPEB) Dr. Ken Fennelly, General Synod Board of Education of the Secretary Church of Ireland Ms. Linda Rainsberry, General Synod Board of Education of the Church of Ireland

The Committee heard opening statements from the witnesses. A debate took place and this was followed by a questions and answers session. At the end of the debate the Chair thanked the witnesses for their informative presentations and assured them that it would inform the Committee’s deliberations on the future discussions in relation to this piece of legislation.

ADJOURNMENT OF DEBATE

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 6.20 p.m. until Tuesday 21st February, 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 21st February 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY, 21 FEBRUARY 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.04 p.m. in Committee Room 2 LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following Members were present:-

Deputies: Fiona O’Loughlin (Chair), Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin, Jim Daly and Carol Nolan.

Senators: Robbie Gallagher and Lynn Ruane.

Apologies were received from –

Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh

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SUSPENSION OF MEETING

The meeting was suspended at 4.20 p.m. to allow for witnesses take their places.

PUBLIC SESSION

The meeting resumed in PUBLIC SESSION at 4.23 p.m.

DISCUSSION ON THE SUBJECT OF POSITIVE MENTAL HEALTH IN OUR SCHOOLS.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Mr. Paul King, School of Human Development, Dublin City Lecturer and Programme Chair University (DCU)

Mr. Shane Martin, Psychologist Dr. Tony Bates, Jigsaw Founder and Director of Innovation Mr. Peter Hussey, Crooked House Theatre Compnay Artistic Director

ADJOURNMENT OF DEBATE

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 6.20 p.m. until Tuesday 7 March, 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 7th March 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 7 MARCH 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.09 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Jim Daly, Carol Nolan, Catherine Martin and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher and Trevor Ó Clochartaigh.

Also in attendance were: Senators Fintan Warfield and Paul Daly.

Apologies were received from – Senator Lynn Ruane.

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SUSPENSION OF MEETING The meeting was suspended at 4.24 p.m. to allow for witnesses take their places.

PUBLIC SESSION

The meeting resumed in PUBLIC SESSION at 4.29 p.m.

EU SCRUTINY

The Joint Committee agreed that COMs Nos. (2016) 382 and (2016) 625 in Schedule A and Nos. (2016) 708 and (2016) 742 in Schedule B did not warrant any further scrutiny.

DETAILED SCRUTINY OF EDUCATION (AMENDMENT) BILL 2015 AND PRE LEGISLATIVE SCRUTINY THE GENERAL SCHEME OF AN EDUCATION (PARENT AND STUDENT CHARTER) BILL 2016.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Mr. Martin Hanevy, Department of Education and Skills Assistant Secretary General Mr. Tom Deegan, Department of Education and Skills Principal Officer Mr. Martin McLaughlin, Department of Education and Skills Assistant Principal Officer Mr. John Lohan, Department of Children and Youth Affairs Principal Officer Dr. Niall Muldoon, Office of the Ombudsman for Children Ombudsman for Children Ms. Nuala Ward, Office of the Ombudsman for Children Director of Investigations Ms. Róisín Webb, Office of the Ombudsman for Children Head of Policy Mr. Mark Bohan, Department of Public Expenditure and Assistant Principal Officer Reform Mr. Niall Mulligan, Department of Public Expenditure and Administrative Officer Reform Mr. Peter Tyndall, Office of the Ombudsman Ombudsman Mr. Tom Morgan, Office of the Ombudsman Examinations Unit Ms. Lorraine Dempsey, Special Needs Parents’ Association Co-Chairperson Ms. Gina Grant, Special Needs Parents’ Association Co-Chairperson

Ms. Maria Doyle, Irish Primary Principal’s Network President Mr. Seán Cottrell, Irish Primary Principal’s Network Chief Executive Officer Mr. David Ruddy, Irish Primary Principal’s Network Deputy President Ms. Geraldine D’Arcy, Irish Primary Principal’s Network Research and Publications Manager Ms. Áine Lynch, National Parents’ Council (Primary) Chief Executive Officer

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 6.20 p.m. until Tuesday 21 March, 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 21st March 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 21 MARCH 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.06 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Jim Daly, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Apologies were received from Deputy Catherine Martin.

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REPLACEMENT OF CHAIR

With the agreement of the Members, Deputy Thomas Byrne took the place of the Chair at 4.16 p.m.

SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING

The meeting was suspended at 4.25 p.m. to allow for witnesses take their places.

PUBLIC SESSION

The meeting resumed in PUBLIC SESSION at 4.29 p.m.

DETAILED SCRUTINY OF EDUCATION (AMENDMENT) BILL 2015 AND PRE LEGISLATIVE SCRUTINY THE GENERAL SCHEME OF AN EDUCATION (PARENT AND STUDENT CHARTER) BILL 2016.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Mr. John Boyle, Irish National Teachers’ Organisation (INTO) President Ms. Anne McElduff, Irish National Teachers’ Organisation (INTO) Assistant General Secretary Ms. Moira Leydon Association of Secondary Teachers of Assistant General Secretary Ireland (ASTI) Mr. Ed Byrne Association of Secondary Teachers of Ireland (ASTI) Ms. Joanne Irwin, Teachers’ Union of Ireland (TUI) President Mr. David Duffy, Teachers’ Union of Ireland (TUI) Education and Research Officer Mr. John MacGabhann, Teacher’s Union of Ireland (TUI) General Secretary Ms. Jane Hayes Nally, Irish Second-Level Students’ Union (ISSU) President Mr. Paul Beddy, National Parents’ Council (Post-Primary) Director Mr. Paul Rolston, National Parents’ Council (Post-Primary) Member of Parents’ Charter Sub-Committee

SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING

The meeting was suspended at 5.30 p.m. to allow for witnesses take their places for the second part of the Meeting.

RESUMPTION OF THE MEETING

The meeting resumed in PUBLIC SESSION at 5.49 p.m.

DISCUSSION CONCERNING THE IMPLICATIONS OF BREXIT FOR THE IRISH EDUCATION SYSTEM.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Dr. Graham Love, Higher Education Authority (HEA) Chief Executive Officer Dr. Gemma Irvine Higher Education Authority (HEA) Head of Policy and Strategic Planning Prof. Jane Ohlmeyer, Irish Research Council (IRC) Chairperson Prof. Brian MacCraith, Dublin City University (DCU) President Ms. Triona McCormack, University College Dublin (UCD) Director of Research Mr. Ned Costello, Irish Universities Association Chief Executive Officer Mr. John McGrane, British-Irish Chamber of Commerce Director General Mr. Paul Lynam, British-Irish Chamber of Commerce Head of Sectoral Policy Mr. Jeremy Godfrey, International School of Dublin Board Chairman Mr. Vincent McCarthy, International School of Dublin Chair and Board Member

ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 7.07 p.m. until Tuesday 4 April, 2017 at 4pm.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 4th April 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 4 APRIL 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.06 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Ciarán Cannon, Carol Nolan, Catherine Martin and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Apologies were received from Deputy Jim Daly.

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ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 4.56 p.m. until Tuesday 2nd May 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 2nd May 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 2 MAY 2017

The Joint Committee met in public session at 5.52 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Also In Attendance: Deputy Tommy Broughan.

Apologies were received from Senator Robbie Gallagher.

3. EXAMINATION OF THE CASSELLS REPORT AND INCOME CONTINGENT LOANS.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Dr. Aedín Doris Economics Department, Maynooth University Dr. Darragh Flannery Economics Department, Kemmy Business School, University of Limerick (UL) Dr. Shaen Corbet Co-Author of Report on Income Contingent Loans Dr. Charles Larkin Co-Author of Report on Income Contingent Loans

The Committee heard opening statements from the witnesses. This was followed by a questions and answers session. At the end of the debate the Chair thanked the witnesses for their informative presentations.

4. PRIVATE SESSION

The meeting went into private session at 7.45 p.m.

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ADJOURNMENT As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 7.55 p.m. until Tuesday 16th May 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 16th May 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 16 MAY 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 5.18 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present: Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Joan Burton, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne and Trevor Ó Clochartaigh.

Also In Attendance: Senator Alice – Mary Higgins [Substituting for Senator Lynn Ruane]

Apologies were received from Senator Lynn Ruane

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SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING

The meeting was suspended for 5 minutes to allow the witnesses to take their places for the engagement with stakeholders in the Committee’s review of Skills and Apprenticeships schemes.

RESUMPTION OF THE MEETING IN PUBLIC SESSION

PUBLIC SESSION

ENGAGEMENT WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN A REVIEW OF SKILLS AND APPRENTICESHIPS

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Mr. Tim Fenn, Irish Hotels Federation (IHF) Chief Executive Officer Mr. Michael Vaughan, Irish Hotels Federation (IHF) Chair of the Hospitality Skills Oversight Group Mr. Des Murphy, Education and Training Boards Ireland Training Function Support Officer (ETBI) Mr. Martin G O’Brien, Louth & Meath Education and Training Chief Executive Officer Board (LMETB) Mr. Michael Hourihan, Cork Institute of Technology (CIT) Head of the Centre of Craft Studies Mr. Andrew Smith, Building and Allied Trades’ Union (BATU) Deputy General Secretary Mr. Tom Parlon, Construction Industry Federation (CIF) Director General Mr. Dermot Carey, Construction Industry Federation (CIF) Director of Training Mr. Paul O’Toole, SOLAS Chief Executive Officer Dr. Mary-Liz Trant, SOLAS Executive Director of Skills Development

The witnesses made an opening statement and this was followed by a questions and answers session. At the end of the debate the Chair thanked the witnesses for their informative presentations.

10. ADJOURNMENT. As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 7.45 p.m. until Tuesday 30th May 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 30th May 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 30 MAY 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.06p.m. in Committee Room 4, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Joan Burton, Thomas Byrne, Ciaran Cannon, Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Also in attendance was Deputy Catherine Connolly.

3. Item discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session

SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING The meeting was suspended for 5 minutes to allow witnesses to take their places for Pre-Legislative Scrutiny of the Education (Amendment) Bill 2015 and the General Scheme of an Education (Parent and Student Charter) Bill 2016.

PUBLIC SESSION

PRE – LEGISLATIVE SCRUTINY

The Committee continued its Scrutiny on two pieces of legislation:

Detailed Scrutiny of the Education (Amendment) Bill 2015; and

Pre-Legislative Scrutiny the General Scheme of the Education (Parent and Student Charter) Bill 2016.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

An tUas. Caoimhín Ó hEaghra, An Foras Pátrúnachta Ard-Rúnaí Ms. Antoinette Nic Gearailt, Association of Community and President Comprehensive Schools (ACCS) Ms. Eileen Salmon, Association of Community and General Secretary Comprehensive Schools (ACCS) Mr. Breda Corr, National Association of Board of General Secretary Management in Special Education (NABMSE) Mr. John Curtis, Joint Managerial Body/Association of General Secretary Management of Catholic Secondary Schools (JMB/AMCSS) Fr. Paul Connell, Joint Managerial Body/Association of President Management of Catholic Secondary Schools (JMB/AMCSS) Mr. Seamus Mulconry, Catholic Primary Schools Management General Secretary Association (CPSMA) Ms. Sineád Brett, Catholic Primary Schools Management Association (CPSMA) Mr. Michael Moriarty, Education and Training Boards Ireland General Secretary (ETBI) Ms. Joan Russell, Education and Training Boards Ireland Director of Schools Support Services (ETBI) Mr. Shaheen Ahmed, Muslim Primary Education Board (MPEB) General Secretary Ms. Asiya Al-Tawash Muslim Primary Education Board (MPEB) Mr. Paul Rowe, Educate Together Chief Executive Officer Dr. Ken Fennelly, General Synod Board of Education of the Secretary Church of Ireland

The Committee heard opening statements from the witnesses. This was followed by an open discussion with members.

Suspension The Committee suspended at 6.46pm for a Dáil vote and resumed in public session at 6.53pm.

PUBLIC SESSION

ENGAGEMENT WITH CARANUA

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Ms. Mary Higgins, Caranua Chief Executive Officer Mr. David O’Callaghan, Caranua Chairman

The Committee heard an opening statement from the witnesses which was followed by an open discussion with members.

ADJOURNMENT

The Joint Committee adjourned until Tuesday, 13th June 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Thomas Byrne T.D. Temporary Chairperson 13 June 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 13 JUNE 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.14 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne [In Chair*], Catherine Martin and Carol Nolan.

Senators: Robbie Gallagher and Lynn Ruane.

Also in attendance were Deputy Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin and Deputy John McGuinness.

Apologies were received from Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin and Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh.

*At its meeting on 30th May 2017, the Committee agreed that Deputy Byrne would chair the meeting scheduled for 13th June 2017 due to the unavoidable absence of the Chair.

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ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business, the Committee adjourned at 4.43 p.m. until Tuesday, 27th June 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 27 June 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 27 JUNE 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4:09 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Joan Burton, Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Apologies were received from Senator Maria Byrne.

Item discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session Item Discussed In Private Session

SUSPENSION

The meeting suspended at 4.33 p.m. and resumed in Public Session at 4.37 p.m.

RESUMPTION OF MEETING IN PUBLIC SESSION.

PUBLIC SESSION

9. REVIEW OF THE ADEQUACY OF TRAINING AND SUPPORT AVAILABLE TO PROVIDERS OF SPECIAL NEEDS EDUCATION AND EDUCATION IN DEIS SCHOOLS

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Dr. Anne Ryan, Marino Institute of Education Senior Lecturer in Education Dr. Gene Mehigan, Marino Institute of Education Principal Lecturer in Education Ms. Breda Corr, National Association of Boards of General Secretary Management in Special Education (NABMSE) Ms. Noreen Duggan, St. Anne’s Special School, The Curragh, Co. Principal Kildare Ms. Pauline Dempsey, Scoil na Naomh Uilig, Newbridge, Co. Principal Kildare Ms. Teresa Griffin, National Council for Special Education Chief Executive Officer (NCSE) Ms. Madeline Hickey, National Council for Special Education Director of the Special Education Support Service (NCSE) Dr. Áine Hyland, University College Cork (UCC) Emeritus Professor of Education Ms. Deirbhile Nic Craith, Irish National Teachers’ Organisation Assistant General Secretary/Director of Education (INTO) And Research

The Committee heard an opening statement from the witnesses which was followed by an open discussion with members.

10. ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business, the Joint Committee adjourned at 6.53 p.m. until Tuesday, 11th July 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 11th July 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY, 11 JULY 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4.04 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Joan Burton, Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Also in attendance were Deputies Anne Rabbitte, Eamon Scanlon, Aindrias Moynihan, James Lawless, Frank O’Rourke, and Senator Jennifer Murnane O’Connor.

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SUSPENSION OF MEETING.

The meeting was suspended for 5 minutes to allow the witnesses to take their places for the engagement with stakeholders on matters relating to the operation of the School Transport Scheme.

RESUMPTION OF MEETING IN PUBLIC SESSION.

PUBLIC SESSION

ENGAGEMENT WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON MATTERS RELATING TO THE OPERATION OF THE SCHOOL TRANSPORT SCHEME

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Mr. Richard Dolan, Department of Education and Skills Principal Officer, School Transport Unit Ms. Niamh McElduff, Department of Education and Skills Assistant Principal Officer, School Transport Unit Mr. Ray Hernan Bus Éireann Acting CEO Mr. Gerry Gannon, Bus Éireann School Transport Manager Ms. Margaret Hubbard, Bus Éireann Procurement and Materials Manager Mr. Sé Goulding, National Council for Special Education Head of Operations (NCSE) Ms. Noelle Connolly, National Council for Special Education Head of Local Services (NCSE) Ms. Breda Corr, National Association of Boards of General Secretary Management in Special Education (NABMSE) Ms. Áine Lynch National Parents’ Council [Primary] Chief Executive Officer

The witnesses made an opening statement and this was followed by a questions and answers session. At the end of the debate the Chair thanked the witnesses for their informative presentations.

ADJOURNMENT. As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 7.04 p.m. until Tuesday 25th July 2017 at 4.00 p.m.

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Thomas Byrne T.D. Temporary Chairperson 18th July 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 18 JULY 2017

The Joint Committee met in private session at 4:04 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne [In the Chair] and Catherine Martin. Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Apologies: Deputies Joan Burton, Carol Nolan and Fiona O’Loughlin.

ELECTION OF TEMPORARY CHAIR

In the unavoidable absence of the Chair, the Clerk sought nominations for the position of Temporary Chair. Deputy Catherine Martin proposed that Deputy Thomas Byrne take the Chair and this was agreed by the Committee.

Deputy Byrne took the Chair.

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ADJOURNMENT.

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 4.45p.m. Sine Die.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 26 September 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 26 SEPTEMBER 2017

The Joint Committee met in public session at 4:03 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin, and Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair].

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher and Lynn Ruane.

Deputy Kathleen Funchion attended in substitution for Deputy Carol Nolan.

Also in attendance were Deputies Richard Boyd-Barrett and Robert Troy.

PUBLIC SESSION – ENGAGEMENT WITH THE MINISTER IN RELATION TO

BREACHES OF FIRE SAFETY IN A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS NATIONWIDE

The Chair welcomed the Minister for Education and Skills, Mr. Richard Bruton T.D. to the meeting.

The Minister made an opening statement to the Committee on the issue of breaches of fire safety in a number of schools nationwide. This was followed by questions from Members.

At the conclusion of this engagement, the Chair thanked the Minister for his participation and cooperation in the discussion.

SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING

The meeting was suspended at 4.55 p.m. to allow the Minister and his officials to withdraw.

RESUMPTION OF THE MEETING IN PRIVATE SESSION

The meeting resumed at 4.55 p.m. in private session to consider housekeeping matters.

6. Item discussed in private session

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ADJOURNMENT

As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 5.29 p.m. sine die.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 24 October 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 24 OCTOBER 2017

The Joint Committee met in public session at 4.04 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Martin, Tony McLoughlin, Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair] and Jan O’Sullivan. Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane. Apologies were received from Deputy Kathleen Funchion.

The Committee went into private session at 4.05 p.m.

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SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING. The meeting was suspended at 4.33 p.m. to allow witnesses to take their places.

RESUMPTION OF MEETING

Tackling of obesity and the promotion of healthy eating in schools.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Group 1 Ms. Claire Heneghan B.Ed., MSc. Exercise and Nutrition Science Mr. Kevin Creery Healthy Kidz Mr. Liam McCorry Healthy Kidz Mr. Damien Mitchell Healthy Kidz Mr. Eddie Ward, Department of Education and Skills Principal Officer, Teacher Education Section Ms. Rita Sexton, Department of Education and Skills Assistant Principal Officer, Curriculum & Assessment Policy Unit Ms. Clare Griffin, Department of Education and Skills Primary Inspector Mr. Mike Neary, Bord Bia Director of Horticulture and Meat Dr Celine Murrin & National Nutrition Surveillance Centre Dr Silvia Bel-Serrat (UCD)

The witnesses gave their opening statements and this was followed by a questions and answers session with Members. At the end of the briefing the Chair thanked the witnesses for their contributions.

The witnesses withdrew.

The meeting suspended at 6.02 p.m. to allow witnesses to take their seats for the second session, and resumed in public session at 6.04 p.m.

THE CHAIR WELCOMED THE FOLLOWING WITNESSES TO THE MEETING:

Group 2 Mr. Chris Macey, Irish Heart Foundation Head of Advocacy Ms. Janis Morrissey, Irish Heart Foundation Health Promotion Manager Ms. Kathryn Reilly, Irish Heart Foundation Policy Manager Ms. Fiona Gilligan, Safe Food Director of Marketing and Communications Dr. Cliodhna Foley-Nolan, Safe Food

Director of Human Health and Nutrition Ms. Kate O’Flaherty, Department of Health Head of Health & Wellbeing Unit Mr. Liam McCormack, Department of Health Assistant Principal Officer, Obesity Policy

The witnesses gave their opening statements and this was followed by a questions and answers session with Members. At the end of the briefing the Chair thanked the witnesses for their contributions. The witnesses withdrew.

ADJOURNMENT. As there was no other business the Committee adjourned at 6.51 p.m. until 4.00 p.m. on Tuesday, 7th November 2017.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 7 November 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 7 NOVEMBER 2017

The Joint Committee met in public session at 4.10 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Kathleen Funchion, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Martin, Tony McLoughlin, Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair] and Jan O’Sullivan.

Senator: Trevor Ó Clochartaigh.

Apologies were received from Senator Lynn Ruane.

The Committee went into private session at 4.11 p.m.

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SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING The meeting was suspended at 4.23 p.m. to allow witnesses to take their places.

RESUMPTION OF MEETING The meeting resumed in public session at 4.26 p.m.

Home School Community Liaison Scheme

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Ms. Maria Tobin, TUSLA Integrated Services Manager, National Educational Welfare Services . TUSLA Mr. Noel Kelly, Director, Educational Welfare Services, Ms. Maeve McCafferty Irish National Teachers’ Organisation (INTO) Ms. Aisling Browne, Scoil Mhuire Sóisearach, Newbridge, Co. Home School Community Liaison Kildare Teacher

Ms. Jenny Gannon, Scoil Mhuire Sínsearach, Newbridge, Co. Home School Community Liaison Kildare Teacher Mr. Martin Shiel, Department of Education and Skills Assistant Principal Officer, Social Inclusion Unit Ms. Chris Kelly, Department of Education and Skills Assistant Principal Officer, Social Inclusion Unit Mr. Pádraig O’Donovan, Foróige Youth Officer Mr. Andrew Leeson, Foróige Area Manager

The witnesses made an opening statements and this was followed by a questions and answers session with the Committee.

With the agreement of the Committee, Deputy Catherine Martin took the Chair at 5.07 p.m.

Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin resumed the Chair at 5.57 p.m.

The meeting suspended at 6.00 p.m. and the witnesses withdrew.

The meeting resumed in public session at 6.18 p.m. for an engagement on the WorldSkills Competition 2017, Abu Dhabi.

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Mr. Paul O’Toole, SOLAS CEO Mr. John Twohig, WorldSkills Ireland Chair Mr. Eoin Shortall Member of the Irish Delegation at the WorldSkills competition 2017 Mr. Colum Farrelly Member of the Irish Delegation at the WorldSkills competition 2017 Ms. Ciara Daly Member of the Irish Delegation at the WorldSkills competition 2017 Mr. Kevin Hough Member of the Irish Delegation at the WorldSkills competition 2017 Ms. Kathlyn Leahy Member of the Irish Delegation at the WorldSkills competition 2017 Mr. Aaron Ronan Member of the Irish Delegation at the WorldSkills competition 2017

The witnesses gave their opening statements and this was followed by a questions and answers session with the Committee.

The witnesses withdrew.

ADJOURNMENT. As there was no other business, the Committee adjourned at 6.46 p.m. until 4.00 p.m. on Tuesday, 21st November 2017.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 21 November 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 21 NOVEMBER 2017

The Joint Committee met in public session at 4.06 p.m. in Committee Room 2, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Kathleen Funchion, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Martin, Tony McLoughlin, Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair] and Jan O’Sullivan.

Senators: Maria Byrne, Robbie Gallagher, Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

The Committee went into private session at 4.06 p.m.

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SUSPENSION OF THE MEETING

The meeting was suspended at 4.27 p.m. to allow witnesses to take their places.

RESUMPTION OF MEETING

The meeting resumed in public session at 4.32 p.m. for an engagement on “the ongoing reform of the Leaving Certificate Curriculum”.

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Dr. Katriona O’Sullivan, Maynooth University Academic Mr. John Doran, Patrician Secondary School, Newbridge, Guidance Counsellor Co. Kildare Mr. Tomás Ó Ruairc, The Teaching Council Director Ms. Carmel Kearns, The Teaching Council Head of Teachers’ Learning and Research Mr. Tony Donohoe, IBEC Head of Education and Social Policy Ms. Sorcha Ní Chonghaile, Irish Second-Level Students’ Union Oifigeach na Gaeilge (ISSU) Mr. Geoff Browne, National Parents’ Council Post-Primary President Mr. Ross MacMahon, National Parents’ Council Post-Primary Communications Director Mr. Eamonn Moran, Department of Education and Skills Principal Officer Ms. Ruth Richards, Department of Education and Skills Inspectorate Mr. Aidan Farrell, State Examinations Commission Chief Executive Officer Mr. Hugh McManus, State Examinations Commission Assistant Head of Examinations and Assessment Mr. John Hammond, National Council for Curriculum and Chief Executive Officer Assessment (NCCA) Mr. John Halbert, National Council for Curriculum and Director of Curriculum and Assessment (NCCA) Assessment

The witnesses made an opening statements and this was followed by a questions and answers session with the Committee.

The Chair thanked the witnesses for their contributions.

The meeting suspended at 6.46 p.m. and the witnesses withdrew.

The meeting resumed in public session at 6.18 p.m. for an engagement on the “Dáil na nÓg Delegate Report, 2015”

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Kate Lehane Comhairle na nÓg National Executive Member Kate Lancaster-Ryan Comhairle na nÓg National Executive Member Hugh Fitzgerald Comhairle na nÓg National Executive Member Niamh Bakker Comhairle na nÓg National Executive Member Craig Smith Comhairle na nÓg National Executive Member Brigid O’Sullivan Comhairle na nÓg National Executive Member Ms. Olive McGovern, Department of Children and Youth Principal Officer, Youth Reform and Affairs Citizen Participation Unit

The witnesses gave their opening statements and this was followed by a questions and answers session with the Committee.

The Chair thanked the witnesses for their contributions. The witnesses withdrew.

ADJOURNMENT. As there was no other business, the Committee adjourned at 7.26 p.m. until 4.00 p.m. on Tuesday, 19th December 2017.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 19th December 2017

JOINT COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND SKILLS

MINUTES OF MEETING OF TUESDAY 19 DECEMBER 2017

1. The Joint Committee met in public session at 4.04 p.m. in Committee Room 4, LH 2000, a quorum being present.

2. MEMBERS PRESENT

The following members were present:

Deputies: Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin, Fiona O’Loughlin [In Chair] and Jan O’Sullivan.

Senators: Trevor Ó Clochartaigh and Lynn Ruane.

Apologies were received from Deputies Kathleen Funchion, Josepha Madigan, Tony McLoughlin and Senators Maria Byrne and Robbie Gallagher.

Also in attendance were Deputy Éamon Ó Cuív and Senators Gerard P. Craughwell and Brian Ó Domhnaill.

The Committee went into private session at 4.04 p.m.

PRIVATE SESSION

3. ITEM DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE SESSION

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7. SUSPENSION OF MEETING

The meeting was suspended at 4.27 p.m. to allow witnesses to take their places.

8. RESUMPTION OF MEETING

PUBLIC SESSION

The meeting resumed in public session at 4.31 p.m. for an engagement on “challenges facing island schools”, the topic of the special rapporteur report by Senator Trevor Ó Clochartaigh.

The Chair welcomed the following witnesses to the meeting:

Mr. Pat Gilmore, Education and Training Boards Ireland Former President (ETBI) Mr. Tomás MacPháidín, Galway and Roscommon Education and Oifigeach Oideachais Training Board (GRETB) Ms. Mairéad Nic Tomáis, Galway and Roscommon Education and Ceann Seirbhísí Corparáideacha Training Board (GRETB) Ms. Anne McHugh, Donegal Education and Training Board CEO Bríd Ní Dhonnchadha, Coláiste Ghobnait, Inis Oírr Príomhoide Míchéal Ó Culáin, Coláiste Naomh Éinne, Inis Mór Príomhoide Mairéad Ní Fhátharta, Coláiste Naomh Eoin, Inis Meáin Príomhoide Cúnta Ms. Bláthnaid Ní Ghréacháin, Gaelscoileanna Teo Príomhfheidhmeannach Anna Ní Chártúir, Gaeloideachais Uachtarán Ms. Deirdre O’Connor, Irish National Teachers’ Organisation Assistant General Secretary (INTO) Ms. Síne Friel Irish National Teachers’ Organisation

(INTO)

The witnesses made an opening statements and this was followed by a questions and answers session with the Committee.

The Chair thanked the witnesses for their contributions.

The witnesses withdrew.

9. ADJOURNMENT As there was no other business, the Committee adjourned at 6.49 p.m. sine die.

______Fiona O’Loughlin T.D. Chairperson 23 January 2018

APPENDIX 5: Meetings of the Dáil Select Committee

The following are the details, in date order, of the scheduled meetings of the Select Committee which took place during the period under report.

Meeting Topic Organisations, Groups and Individuals who No. and attended Date S01 Private Meeting 21/07/2016 N/A

S02 Estimates for Public Mr. Richard Bruton T.D., Minister for Education 30/11/2016 Services and Skills

Vote 26 (Department of Education and Skills) (Supplementary Estimate)

Vote 40 (Health Service Executive) (Revised Estimate)

S03 Estimates for Public Mr. Richard Bruton T.D., Minister for Education 02/05/2017 Services and Skills

Vote 26 (Department of Mr. John Halligan T.D., Minister of State at the Education and Skills) Department of Education and Skills, with (Revised Estimate) Special Responsibility for Training and Skills

S04 Estimates for Public Mr. Richard Bruton T.D., Minister for Education 16/05/2017 Services and Skills

S05 Education (Admissions to Mr. Richard Bruton T.D., Minister for Education 28/06/2017 Schools) Bill 2015 and Skills

S06 Technological Universities Ms. Mary Mitchell-O’Connor T.D., Minister of 15/11/2017 Bill State for Higher Education

S07 Technological Universities Ms. Mary Mitchell-O’Connor T.D., Minister of 22/11/2017 Bill State for Higher Education

S08 Estimates for Public Mr. Richard Bruton T.D., Minister for Education 05/12/2017 Services and Skills

Vote 26 (Department of Mr. John Halligan T.D., Minister of State at the Education and Skills) Department of Education and Skills, with

[Supplementary Estimate] Special Responsibility for Training and Skills

APPENDIX 6: Proceedings of the Select Committee (Imeachtaí)

IMEACHTAÍ AN ROGHCHOISTE

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE

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Dé Céadaoin, 30 Samhain, 2016

Wednesday, 30 November, 2016 ______

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 2.06p.m. 1. The Committee met at 2.06 p.m.

2. COMHALTAÍ I LÁTHAIR. 2. MEMBERS PRESENT.

Bhí na comhaltaí seo a leanas i láthair: The following Members were present:

An Teachta Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn (i Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (in the Chair), gCeannas), An Teachta Risteárd de Deputy Richard Bruton (Minister for Briotún (an tAire Oideachais agus Education and Skills), Deputies Thomas Scileanna), na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin, Byrne, Ciarán Cannon, Jim Daly, and Ciarán Ó Canáin, Séamus Ó Dálaigh agus Carol Nolan. Carol Nolan.

3. BREITHNIÚ AR MHEASTACHÁIN I 3. CONSIDERATION OF ESTIMATES FOR GCOMHAIR SEIRBHÍSÍ POIBLÍ. PUBLIC SERVICES.

Bhreithnigh an Coiste an Meastachán seo The Committee considered the following a leanas i gcomhair Seirbhísí Poiblí don Estimate for Public Services for the year bhliain dar críoch an 31 Nollaig, 2016 – ending 31st December, 2016 –

Vóta 26 (Oideachas agus Scileanna) Vote 26 (Education and Skills) (Meastachán Forlíontach). (Supplementary Estimate).

Críochnaíodh an breithniú ar an Consideration of the Estimate was Meastachán. concluded.

Cuireadh teachtaireacht chun na Dála de Message sent to the Dáil in accordance réir Bhuan-Ordú 90 á chur in iúl di gur with Standing Order 90 acquainting it that chríochnaigh an Coiste a bhreithniú ar an the Committee had completed its Meastachán. consideration of the Estimate.

4. ATHLÁ. 4. ADJOURNMENT.

Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 2.58 p.m. The Committee adjourned at 2.58 p.m. sine die. sine die.

______FIONA O’LOUGHLIN, T.D. Chairman 30th November 2016

IMEACHTAÍ AN ROGHCHOISTE

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Dé Máirt, 2 Bealtaine, 2017

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1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 4.05 p.m. 1. The Committee met at 4.05 p.m.

2. COMHALTAÍ I LÁTHAIR. 2. MEMBERS PRESENT.

Bhí na comhaltaí seo a leanas i láthair: The following Members were present:

An Teachta Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn (i Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (in the Chair), gCeannas), An Teachta Risteárd de Deputy Richard Bruton (Minister for Briotún (an tAire Oideachais agus Education and Skills), Deputy John Scileanna), An Teachta Seán Ó Halligan (Minister of State at the hAileagáin (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn Department of Education and Skills), Oideachas agus Scileanna), na Teachtaí Deputies Thomas Byrne, Ciarán Cannon, Tomás Ó Broin, Ciarán Ó Canáin, Séamus Jim Daly, Catherine Martin, and Carol Ó Dálaigh, Caitríona Ní Mhairtín, agus Nolan. Carol Nolan.

3. BREITHNIÚ AR MHEASTACHÁIN I 3. CONSIDERATION OF ESTIMATES FOR GCOMHAIR SEIRBHÍSÍ POIBLÍ. PUBLIC SERVICES.

Bhreithnigh an Coiste an Meastachán seo The Committee considered consideration a leanas i gcomhair Seirbhísí Poiblí don of the following Estimate for Public bhliain dar críoch an 31 Nollaig, 2017 – Services for the year ending 31st December, 2017 –

Vóta 26 (Oideachas agus Scileanna) Vote 26 (Education and Skills) (Revised (Meastachán Athbhreithnithe). Estimate).

Cuireadh an breithniú ar an Meastachán ar Consideration of the Estimate was athló. adjourned.

4. ATHLÁ. 4. ADJOURNMENT.

Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 5.29 p.m. The Committee adjourned at 5.29 p.m. sine die. sine die.

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Dé Máirt, 16 Bealtaine, 2017

Tuesday, 16 May, 2017 ______

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 4.02 p.m. 1. The Committee met at 4.02 p.m.

2. COMHALTAÍ I LÁTHAIR. 2. MEMBERS PRESENT.

Bhí na comhaltaí seo a leanas i láthair: The following Members were present:

An Teachta Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn (i Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (in the Chair), gCeannas), An Teachta Risteárd de Deputy Richard Bruton (Minister for Briotún (an tAire Oideachais agus Education and Skills), Deputy John Scileanna), An Teachta Seán Ó Halligan (Minister of State at the hAileagáin (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn Department of Education and Skills) Oideachas agus Scileanna), na Teachtaí Deputies Thomas Byrne, Catherine Tomás Ó Broin, Caitríona Ní Mhairtín, Martin, and Carol Nolan. agus Carol Nolan.

3. BREITHNIÚ AR MHEASTACHÁIN I 3. CONSIDERATION OF ESTIMATES FOR GCOMHAIR SEIRBHÍSÍ POIBLÍ. PUBLIC SERVICES.

D’athchrom an Coiste ar bhreithniú an The Committee resumed consideration of Mheastacháin seo a leanas i gcomhair the following Estimate for Public Services Seirbhísí Poiblí don bhliain dar críoch an for the year ending 31st December, 2017 – 31 Nollaig, 2017 –

Vóta 26 (Oideachas agus Scileanna) Vote 26 (Education and Skills) (Revised (Meastachán Athbhreithnithe). Estimate).

Críochnaíodh an breithniú ar an Consideration of the Estimate was Meastachán.. concluded.

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Meastachán. consideration of the Estimate.

4. ATHLÁ. 4. ADJOURNMENT.

Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 4.48 p.m. The Committee adjourned at 4.48 p.m. sine die. sine die.

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Dé Céadaoin, 28 Meitheamh, 2017

Wednesday, 28 June, 2017 ______

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 4.37 p.m. 1. The Committee met at 4.37 p.m.

1 2 2. COMHALTAÍ I LÁTHAIR . 2. MEMBERS PRESENT .

An Teachta Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn (i Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (in the Chair), gCeannas), An Teachta Risteárd de Deputy Richard Bruton (Minister for Briotún (an tAire Oideachais agus Education and Skills), Deputies Richard Scileanna), na Teachtaí Risteard Buíd Boyd Barrett, Joan Burton, Thomas Bairéid, Siobhán de Bhurtúin, Tomás Ó Byrne, Joe Carey, Bernard J. Durkan, Broin, Seosamh Ó Ciardha, Bernard S. Catherine Martin, Tom Neville, Carol Mac Dhurcáin, Caitríona Ní Mhairtín, Nolan, Kate O’Connell, Brendan Ryan Tomás Ó Niaidh, Carol Nolan, Kate and Róisín Shortall. O’Connell, Breandán Ó Riain agus Róisín Ní Shoirtéil.

3. AN BILLE OIDEACHAIS (LIGEAN 3. EDUCATION (ADMISSION TO SCHOOLS) INSTEACH I SCOILEANNA), 2016. BILL 2016.

Chrom an Coiste ar an mBille a The Committee took the Bill into bhreithniú. consideration.

(i) Alt 1. (i) Section 1.

1 Ghlac an Teachta Seosamh Ó Ciardha ionad an Teachta Séamus Ó Dálaigh [B.O. 95(2)]. Ghlac an Teachta Breandán Ó Riain ionad an Teachta Siobhán de Bhurtúin [B.O. 95(2)]. Ghlac an Teachta Tomás Ó Niaidh ionad an Teachta Ciarán Ó Canáin (ar feadh cuid den chruinniú) [B.O. 95(2)]. Ghlac an Teachta Bernard S. Mac Dhurcáin ionad an Teachta Ciarán Ó Canáin (ar feadh cuid den chruinniú) [B.O. 95(2)]. Ghlac an Teachta Kate O’Connell ionad an Teachta Ciarán Ó Canáin (ar feadh cuid den chruinniú) [B.O. 95(2)]. Bhí na Teachtaí Buíd Bairéid, Ní Shoirtéil agus Riaini láthair [B.O. 95(3)].

2 Deputy Joe Carey substituted for Deputy Jim Daly [S.O. 95(2)]. Deputy Brendan Ryan substituted for Joan Burton [S.O. 95(2)]. Deputy Tom Neville substituted for Deputy Ciaran Cannon (for part of the meeting) [S.O. 95(2)]. Deputy Bernard J. Durakn substituted for Deputy Ciaran Cannon (for part of the meeting) [S.O. 95(2)]. Deputy Kate O’Connell substituted for Deputy Ciaran Cannon (for part of the meeting) [S.O. 95(2)]. Deputies Boyd Barrett, Shortall and Ryan attended [S.O. 95(3)]. 102

Tairgeadh leasú 1 (An Teachta Buíd Amendment 1 (Deputy Boyd Barrett) Bairéid) agus diúltaíodh dó. proposed and negatived.

Aontaíodh alt. Section agreed to.

(ii) Aontaíodh ailt 2, 3 agus 4. (ii) Sections 2, 3 and 4 agreed to.

(iii) Alt nua. (iii) New section.

Tairgeadh leasú 2 (An Teachta Ní Amendment 2 (Deputy Shortall) proposed Shoirtéil) agus diúltaíodh dó – diúltaíodh and negatived – new section negatived. don alt nua.

(iv) Aontaíodh ailt 5 agus 6. (iv) Sections 5 and 6 agreed to.

(v) Alt nua. (v) New section.

Tairgeadh leasú 3 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 3 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú - and Skills) proposed and agreed to – new cuireadh isteach an t-alt nua. section inserted.

(vi) Alt nua. (vi) New section.

Tairgeadh leasú 4 (An Teachta Ní Amendment 4 (Deputy Shortall) proposed Shoirtéil) agus diúltaíodh dó-diúltaíodh and negatived – new section negatived. don alt nua.

(vii) Alt 7. (vii) Section 7.

Tairgeadh leasú 5 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 5 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 6 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 6 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 7 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 7 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 8 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 8 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 9 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 9 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 11 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 11 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 12 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 12 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 13 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 13 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus tarraingíodh siar an and Skills) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 14 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 14 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 15 (An Teachta Buíd Amendment 15 (Deputy Boyd Barrett) Bairéid) agus diúltaíodh dó. proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 16 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 16 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín). Martin) proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 3; Níl, 5. The Committee divided: For, 3; Against, 5.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Breandán Ó Riain; For:- Deputies Brendan Ryan; Catherine Caitríona Ní Mhairtín agus Carol Nolan. Martin and Carol Nolan.

Níl:- An tAire Oideachais agus Scileanna; Against:- Minister for Education and Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin; Tomás Ó Skills; Deputies Thomas Byrne; Tom Niaidh; Seosamh Ó Ciardha agus Fíona Neville; Joe Carey and Fiona O’Loughlin. M. Ní Lochlainn.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú. accordingly – amendment negatived.

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4. AN CRUINNIÚ AR FIONRAÍ. 4. MEETING SUSPENDED.

Ordaíodh: An Cruinniú a chur ar fionraí Ordered: That the Meeting be now anois go dtí 7.49 p.m. (An Teachta Fíona suspended until 7.49 p.m. (Deputy Fiona M. Ní Lochlainn). O’Loughlin).

Cuireadh an Cruinniú ar fionraí dá réir sin The Meeting was accordingly suspended ar 7.14 p.m. at 7.14 p.m.

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Ar 7.49 p.m. athchromadh ar an The Meeting was resumed at 7.49 p.m. gCruinniú.

5. AN BILLE OIDEACHAIS (LIGEAN 5. EDUCATION (ADMISSION TO SCHOOLS) INSTEACH I SCOILEANNA), 2016. BILL 2016.

D’athchrom an Coiste ar an mBille a The Committee resumed consideration of bhreithniú. the Bill.

(i) Alt 7. (i) Section 7.

Tairgeadh leasú 18 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 18 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 19 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 19 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus tarraingíodh siar an and Skills) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 20 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 20 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 25 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 25 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 26 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 26 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 27 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 27 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 28 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 28 (Minister for Education

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agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 29 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 29 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 30 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 30 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 31 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 31 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 32 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 32 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 33 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 33 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 34 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 34 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 35 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 35 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 36 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 36 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 37 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 37 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus cinneadh aontach a and Skills) proposed and decided in the rinneadh air. affirmative.

Tairgeadh leasú 38 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 38 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 39 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 39 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus tarraingíodh siar an Martin) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 40 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 40 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

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faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 41 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 41 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus tarraingíodh siar an and Skills) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 42 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 42 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 43 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 43 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan). proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 1; Níl, 3. The Committee divided: For, 1; Against, 3.

Tá:- An Teachta Carol Nolan. For:- Deputy Carol Nolan. Níl:- An tAire Oideachais agus Scileanna; Against:- Minister for Education and Na Teachtaí Bernard S. Mac Dhurcáin Skills; Deputies Bernard J. Durkan and agus Seosamh Ó Ciardha. Joe Carey.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú – accordingly – amendment negatived – Staon Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin, Deputies Thomas Byrne, Catherine Martin Caitríona Ní Mhairtín agus Fíona M. Ní and Fiona O’Loughlin abstaining. Lochlainn ó vótáil.

Tairgeadh leasú 44 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 44 (Minister for Minister for agus Scileanna) agus cinneadh aontach a Education and Skills) proposed and rinneadh air. decided in the affirmative.

Tairgeadh leasú 49 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 49 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 50 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 50 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 51 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 51 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 52 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 52 (Minister for Education

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agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

6. CATHAOIRLEACH SEALADACH A 6. ELECTION OF TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN. THOGHADH.

Rinneadh tairiscint (An Teachta Caitríona Motion made (Deputy Catherine Martin): Ní Mhairtín):

“That Deputy Thomas Byrne take the Chair.”

Cuireadh agus aontaíodh an Cheist. Question put, and agreed to.

Chuaigh an Teachta Tomás Ó Broin i Deputy Thomas Byrne took the Chair for gCeannas ar feadh coda den chruinniú. part of the meeting.

Tairgeadh leasú 53 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 53 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan). proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 4. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 4.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Caitríona Ní Mhairtín For:- Deputies Catherine Martin and Carol agus Carol Nolan. Nolan. Níl:- An tAire Oideachais agus Scileanna; Against:- Minister for Education and Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin; Bernard S. Skills; Deputies Thomas Byrne; Bernard Mac Dhurcáin agus Seosamh Ó Ciardha. J. Durkan and Joe Carey.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú. accordingly – amendment negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 54 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 54 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 55 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 55 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus diúltaíodh dó. Martin) proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 56 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 56 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín). Martin) proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 3. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 3.

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Tá:- Na Teachtaí Caitríona Ní Mhairtín For:- Deputies Catherine Martin and Carol agus Carol Nolan. Nolan. Níl:- An tAire Oideachais agus Scileanna; Against:- Minister for Education and Na Teachtaí Bernard S. Mac Dhurcáin Skills; Deputies Bernard J. Durkan agus agus Seosamh Ó Ciardha. Joe Carey.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú – accordingly – amendment negatived – Staon Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin agus Deputies Thomas Byrne and Fiona Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn ó vótáil. O’Loughlin abstaining.

Tairgeadh leasú 57 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 57 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus diúltaíodh dó. proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 58 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 58 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 59 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 59 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 60 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 60 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 64 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 64 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 65 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 65 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan). proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 3. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 3.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Caitríona Ní Mhairtín For:- Deputies Catherine Martin and Carol agus Carol Nolan. Nolan. Níl:- An tAire Oideachais agus Scileanna; Against:- Minister for Education and Na Teachtaí Bernard S. Mac Dhurcáin Skills; Deputies Bernard J. Durkan and agus Seosamh Ó Ciardha. Joe Carey.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú – accordingly – amendment negatived – Staon Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin agus Deputies Thomas Byrne and Fiona Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn ó vótáil. O’Loughlin abstaining.

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Tairgeadh leasú 66 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 66 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 67 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 67 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 68 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 68 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 69 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 69 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 70 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 70 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 71 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 71 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 72 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 72 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 73 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 73 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 74 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 74 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 75 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 75 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 76 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 76 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 77 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 77 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 78 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 78 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 79 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 79 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 80 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 80 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 81 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 81 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 82 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 82 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 83 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 83 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 84 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 84 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus diúltaíodh dó. Martin) proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 87 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 87 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 88 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 88 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 89 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 89 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 91 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 91 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 92 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 92 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 94 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 94 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 96 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 96 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 97 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 97 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 98 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 98 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus tarraingíodh siar an and Skills) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 99 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 99 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 100 (An Teachta Amendment 100 (Deputy Catherine Caitríona Ní Mhairtín) agus diúltaíodh Martin) proposed and negatived. dó.

Tairgeadh leasú 104 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 104 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 105 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 105 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 109 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 109 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 110 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 110 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus tarraingíodh siar an and Skills) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 111 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 111 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 113 (An Teachta Amendment 113 (Deputy Catherine Caitríona Ní Mhairtín) agus diúltaíodh Martin) proposed and negatived. dó.

Tairgeadh leasú 115 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 115 (Deputy Carol Nolan)

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Nolan). proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 3. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 3.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Caitríona Ní Mhairtín For:- Deputies Catherine Martin and Carol agus Carol Nolan. Nolan. Níl:- An tAire Oideachais agus Scileanna; Against:- Minister for Education and Na Teachtaí Seosamh Ó Ciardha agus Skills; Deputies Joe Carey and Kate Kate O’Connell. O’Connell.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú – accordingly – amendment negatived – Staon Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin agus Deputies Thomas Byrne and Fiona Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn ó vótáil. O’Loughlin abstaining.

Tairgeadh leasú 118 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 118 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 125 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 125 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus diúltaíodh dó. proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 126 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 126 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus diúltaíodh dó. proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 142 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 142 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 144 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 144 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 145 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 145 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan). proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 5. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 5.

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Ciardha; Kate O’Connell agus Fíona M. Carey; Kate O’Connell and Fiona Ní Lochlainn. O’Loughlin.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú. accordingly – amendment negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 147 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 147 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus diúltaíodh dó. proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 149 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 149 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 151 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 151 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 152 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 152 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 153 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 153 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 154 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 154 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 155 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 155 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 156 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 156 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan). proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 5. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 5.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Caitríona Ní Mhairtín For:- Deputies Catherine Martin and Carol agus Carol Nolan. Nolan. Níl:- An tAire Oideachais agus Scileanna; Against:- Minister for Education and Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin; Seosamh Ó Skills; Deputies Thomas Byrne; Joe Ciardha; Kate O’Connell agus Fiona M. Carey; Kate O’Connell and Fiona Ní Lochlainn. O’Loughlin.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú. accordingly – amendment negatived.

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Tairgeadh leasú 157 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 157 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 158 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 158 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 159 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 159 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 160 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 160 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 161 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 161 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 162 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 162 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 163 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 163 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 164 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 164 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 165 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 165 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 166 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 166 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 167 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 167 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 168 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 168 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 169 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 169 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 170 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 170 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 171 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 171 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 172 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 172 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 173 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 173 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 174 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 174 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 175 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 175 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 177 (An Teachta Carol Amendment 177 (Deputy Carol Nolan) Nolan) agus diúltaíodh dó. proposed and negatived.

Cuireadh an Cheist agus cinneadh gur Question on the section put and decided in freagra aontach a tugadh uirthi-aontaíodh the affirmative – section, as amended, an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. agreed to.

(ii) Aontaíodh alt 8. (ii) Section 8 agreed to.

(iii) Alt 9. (iii) Section 9.

Tairgeadh leasú 182 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 182 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 183 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 183 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(iv) Aontaíodh alt 10 (iv) Section 10 agreed to.

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(v) An Teideal. (v) Title.

Tairgeadh leasú 184 (An tAire Oideachais Amendment 184 (Minister for Education agus Scileanna) agus aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

(vi) Aontaíodh an Teideal, mar a (vi) Title, as amended, agreed to. leasaíodh.

7. TEACHTAIREACHT CHUIG DÁIL 7. MESSAGE TO DÁIL ÉIREANN. ÉIREANN.

8. CRÍOCHNÚ AN GHNÓ. 8. CONCLUSION OF BUSINESS.

Chríochnaigh an Coiste a bhreithniú ar an The Committee concluded its mBille ar 10.54 p.m. consideration of the Bill at 10.54 p.m.

9. ATHLÁ. 9. ADJOURNMENT.

Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 10.54 p.m. The Committee adjourned at 10.54 p.m. sine die. sine die.

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FIONA O’LOUGHLIN T.D., Chairman, 28th June 2017.

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IMEACHTAÍ AN ROGHCHOISTE

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE

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Dé Céadaoin, 15 Samhain, 2017

Wednesday, 15 November, 2017 ______

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 5.13 p.m. 1. The Committee met at 5.13 p.m.

3 4 2. COMHALTAÍ I LÁTHAIR . 2. MEMBERS PRESENT .

An Teachta Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn (i Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (in the Chair), gCeannas), An Teachta Máire Mistéil Ní Deputy Mary Mitchell O’Connor Chonchubhair (an tAire Stáit at an Roinn (Minister of State at the Department of Oideachais agus Scileanna), na Teachtaí Education and Skills), Deputies Joan Siobhán de Bhurtúin, Tomás Ó Broin, Burton, Thomas Byrne, Kathleen Kathleen Funchion, Josepha Madigan, Funchion, Josepha Madigan, Catherine Caitríona Ní Mhairtín, Antoine Mac Martin, Tony McLoughlin and Robert Lochlainn agus Roibeard Ó Troithigh. Troy.

3. AN BILLE NA HOLLSCOILLEANNA 3. TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES BILL TEICNEOLAÍOCHTA, 2015. 2015.

Chrom an Coiste ar an mBille a The Committee took the Bill into bhreithniú. consideration.

(i) Alt 1. (i) Section 1.

Tairgeadh leasú 1 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 1 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(ii) Alt 2. (ii) Section 2.

Tairgeadh leasú 2 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 2 (Deputy Mary Mitchell

3 Ghlac an Teachta Máire Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) ionad an Aire Oideachais agus Scileanna [B.O. 95(1)]. Ghlac an Teachta Siobhán de Bhurtúin ionad an Teachta Jan Bean Uí Shúilleabháin [B.O. 95(2)]. Bhí an Teachta Roibeard Ó Troithigh i láthair [B.O. 95(3)].

4 Deputy Mary Mitchell O’Connor (Minister of State at the Department of Education and Skills) substituted for the Minister for Education and Skills [S.O. 95(1)]. Deputy Joan Burton substituted for Deputy Jan O’Sullivan [S.O. 95(2)]. Deputy Robert Troy attended [S.O. 95(3)]. 118

Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scoileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 3 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 3 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 4 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 4 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 5 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 5 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 6 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 6 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 7 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 7 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 8 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 8 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) cinneadh aontach a rinneadh air. proposed and decided in the affirmative.

Tairgeadh leasú 10 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 10 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna). Department of Education and Skills) proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 3; Níl, 2. The Committee divided: For, 3; Against, 2.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Máire Mistéil Ní For:- Deputies Mary Mitchell O’Connor Chonchubhair (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn (Minister of State at the Department of Oideachais agus Scileanna), Antoine Mac Education and Skills), Josepha Madigan Lochlainn agus Josepha Madigan. and Tony McLoughlin. Níl:- Na Teachtaí Kathleen Funchion agus Against:- Deputies Kathleen Funchion and Caitríona Ní Mhairtín. Catherine Martin.

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Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared carried glacadh leis an gCeist – aontaíodh an accordingly – amendment agreed to – leasú – Staon Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin Deputies Thomas Byrne and Fiona agus Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn ó vótáil. O’Loughlin abstaining.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(iii) Alt 3. (iii) Section 3.

Tairgeadh leasú 13 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 13 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(iv) Aontaíodh ailt 4 agus 5. (iv) Sections 4 and 5 agreed to.

(v) Alt 6. (v) Section 6.

Tairgeadh leasú 14 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 14 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(vi) Scriosadh alt 7. (vi) Section 7 deleted.

(vii) Scriosadh alt 8. (vii) Section 8 deleted.

(viii) Scriosadh alt 9. (viii) Section 9 deleted.

(ix) Scriosadh alt 10. (ix) Section 10 deleted.

(x) Scriosadh alt 11. (x) Section 11 deleted.

(xi) Scriosadh alt 12. (xi) Section 12 deleted.

(xii) Scriosadh alt 13. (xii) Section 13 deleted.

(xiii) Scriosadh alt 14. (xiii) Section 14 deleted.

(xiv) Scriosadh alt 15. (xiv) Section 15 deleted.

(xv) Scriosadh alt 16. (xv) Section 16 deleted.

(xvi) Scriosadh alt 17. (xvi) Section 17 deleted.

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(xvii) Alt 18. (xvii) Section 18.

Tairgeadh leasú 15 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 15 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 16 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 16 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Cuireadh an Cheist, “Go ndéanfar alt 18 a Question, “That section 18 be deleted scriosadh den Bhille agus cinneadh gur from the Bill” put and decided in the freagra aontach a tugadh uirthi – affirmative – section deleted from the Bill. scriosadh an t-alt den Bhille.

(xviii) Scriosadh alt 19. (xviii) Section 19 deleted.

(xix) Alt 20. (xix) Section 20.

Tairgeadh leasú 17 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 17 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 18 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 18 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of) proposed and agreed to. aontaíodh an leasú.

Tairgeadh leasú 19 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 19 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xx) Aontaíodh alt 21. (xx) Section 21 agreed to.

(xxi) Alt 22. (xxi) Section 22.

Tairgeadh leasú 20 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 20 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus tarraingíodh siar an Martin) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 21 (An Teachta Kathleen Amendment 21 (Deputy Kathleen Funchion) agus tarraingíodh siar an Funchion) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 22 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 22 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the

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Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) tarraingíodh siar an leasú, faoi chead. proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 23 (An Teachta Kathleen Amendment 23 (Deputy Kathleen Funchion) agus tarraingíodh siar an Funchion) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 24 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 24 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 25 (An Teachta Kathleen Amendment 25 (Deputy Kathleen Funchion) agus tarraingíodh siar an Funchion) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 26 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 26 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) tarraingíodh siar an leasú, faoi chead. proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 27 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 27 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 28 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 28 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 29 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 29 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) tarraingíodh siar an leasú, faoi chead. proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 30 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 30 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 31 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 31 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 32 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 32 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 33 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 33 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the

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Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 34 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 34 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) tarraingíodh siar an leasú, faoi chead. proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 35 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 35 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus tarraingíodh siar an Martin) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 36 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 36 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 37 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 37 (Deputy Catherine Matin) Ní Mhairtín) agus tarraingíodh siar an proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. leasú, faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 38 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 38 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 39 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 39 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus tarraingíodh siar an Martin) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 40 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 40 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 41 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 41 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxii) Alt 23. (xxii) Section 23.

Tairgeadh leasú 42 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 42 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin). proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 3; Níl, 5. The Committee divided: For, 3; Against, 5.

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Tá:- Na Teachtaí Siobhán de Bhurtúin, For:- Deputies Joan Burton, Kathleen Kathleen Funchion agus Caitríona Ní Funchion and Catherine Martin. Mhairtín. Against:- Deputies Mary Mitchell Níl:- Na Teachtaí Máire Mistéil Ní O’Connor (Minister of State at the Chonchubhair (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn Department of Education and Skills), Oideachais agus Scileanna), Tomás Ó Thomas Byrne, Josepha Madigan, Tony Broin, Josepha Madigan, Antoine Mac McLoughlin and Fiona O’Loughlin. Lochlainn agus Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú. accordingly – amendment negatived.

Aontaíodh alt. Section agreed to.

(xxiii) Aontaíodh alt 24. (xxiii) Section 24 agreed to.

(xxiv) Alt 25. (xxiv) Section 25.

Tairgeadh leasú 43 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 43 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 45 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 45 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 46 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 46 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 47 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 47 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus diúltaíodh dó. Martin) proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 49 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 49 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 50 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 50 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 51 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 51 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) 124

cinneadh aontach a rinneadh air. proposed and decided in the affirmative.

Tairgeadh leasú 52 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 52 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxv) Alt 26. (xxv) Section 26.

Tairgeadh leasú 53 (An Teachta Kathleen Amendment 53 (Deputy Kathleen Funchion). Funchion) proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 3. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 3.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Kathleen Funchion agus For:- Deputies Kathleen Funchion and Caitríona Ní Mhairtín. Catherine Martin. Níl:- Na Teachtaí Máire Mistéil Ní Against:- Deputies Mary Mitchell Chonchubhair (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn O’Connor (Minister of State at the Oideachais agus Scileanna), Antoine Mac Department of Education and Skills), Lochlainn agus Josepha Madigan Josepha Madigan and Tony McLoughlin.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú – accordingly – amendment negatived – Staon Na Teachtaí Tomás Ó Broin agus Deputies Thomas Byrne and Fiona Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn ó vótáil. O’Loughlin abstaining.

Aontaíodh alt. Section agreed to.

(xxvi) Alt 27. (xxvi) Section 27.

Tairgeadh leasú 54 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 54 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxvii) Alt 28. (xxvii) Section 28.

4. SEISIÚN PRÍOBHÁIDEACH. 4. PRIVATE SESSION.

Ordaíodh: Go suífidh an Coiste i seisiún Ordered: That the Committee now sit in príobháideach anois. private.

Shuigh an Coiste i seisiún príobháideach The Committee sat in private accordingly.

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Chuaigh an Coiste as seisiún The Committee went out of private príobháideach. session.

5. AN BILLE NA HOLLSCOILLEANNA 5. TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES BILL TEICNEOLAÍOCHATA, 2015. 2015.

D’athchrom an Coiste ar an mBille a The Committee resumed consideration of bhreithniú. the Bill.

Tairgeadh leasú 55 (An Teachta Caitríona Amendment 55 (Deputy Catherine Ní Mhairtín) agus tarraingíodh siar an Martin) proposed and, by leave, leasú, faoi chead. withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 56 (An Teachta Kathleen Amendment 56 (Deputy Kathleen Funchion). Funchion) proposed.

Cuireadh an Cheist. Question put.

Rinne an Coiste vótáil: Tá, 2; Níl, 5. The Committee divided: For, 2; Against, 5.

Tá:- Na Teachtaí Kathleen Funchion agus For:- Deputies Kathleen Funchion and Caitríona Ní Mhairtín. Catherine Martin. Níl:- Na Teachtaí Máire Mistéil Ní Against:- Deputies Mary Mitchell Chonchubhair (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn O’Connor (Minister of State at the Oideachais agus Scileanna), Tomás Ó Department of Education and Skills), Broin, Anotine Mac Lochlainn, Josepha Thomas Byrne, Josepha Madigan, Tony Madigan agus Fiona M. Ní Lochlainn. McLoughlin and Fiona O’Loughlin.

Faisnéiseadh dá réir sin go rabhthas tar éis The Question was declared negatived diúltú don Cheist – diúltaíodh don leasú. accordingly – amendment negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 57 (An Teachta Kathleen Amendment 57 (Deputy Kathleen Funchion) agus diúltaíodh dó. Funchion) proposed and negatived.

Tairgeadh leasú 58 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 58 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxviii) Alt 29. (xxviii) Section 29.

Tairgeadh leasú 59 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 59 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) tarraingíodh siar an leasú, faoi chead. proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

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Tairgeadh leasú 60 (An Teachta Máre Amendment 60 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 61 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 61 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxix) Alt 30. (xxix) Section 30.

Tairgeadh leasú 62 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 62 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 63 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 63 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 64 (An Teachta Tomás Ó Amendment 64 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Broin) agus tarraingíodh siar an leasú, proposed and, by leave, withdrawn. faoi chead.

Tairgeadh leasú 65 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 65 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxx) Aontaíodh ailt 31 go 37, go huile. (xxx) Sections 31 to 37, inclusive, agreed to.

(xxxi) Alt 38. (xxxi) Section 38.

Tairgeadh leasú 66 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 66 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 67 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 67 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 68 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 68 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 69 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 69 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 70 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 70 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 71 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 71 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 72 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 72 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 73 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 73 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 74 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 74 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 75 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 75 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 76 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 76 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 77 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 77 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 78 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 78 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 79 (An Teachta Máíre Amendment 79 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 80 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 80 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 81 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 81 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 82 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 82 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 83 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 83 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 84 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 84 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 85 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 85 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 86 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 86 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 87 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 87 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 88 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 88 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 89 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 89 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 90 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 90 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 91 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 91 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Department of Education aontaíodh an leasú. and Skills) proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 92 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 92 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 93 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 93 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 94 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 94 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 95 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 95 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) cinneadh aontach a rinneadh air. proposed and decided in the affirmative.

Tairgeadh leasú 96 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 96 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 97 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 97 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 98 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 98 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 99 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 99 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 100 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 100 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 101 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 101 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 102 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 102 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 103 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 103 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 104 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 104 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 105 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 105 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxxii) Alt 39. (xxxii) Section 39.

Tairgeadh leasú 106 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 106 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 108 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 108 (Deputy Mary Mitchell

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Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxxiii) Alt nua. (xxxiii) New section.

Tairgeadh leasú 110 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 110 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú -cuireadh isteach an t- proposed and agreed to – new section alt nua. inserted.

(xxxiv) Scriosadh alt 40. (xxxiv) Section 40 deleted.

(xxxv) Alt 41. (xxxv) Section 41.

Tairgeadh leasú 111 (An Teachta Tomás Amendment 111 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Ó Broin) agus aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 112 (An Teachta Tomás Amendment 112 (Deputy Thomas Byrne) Ó Broin) agus aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 113 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 113 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

Tharla Díospóireacht. Debate ensued

Cuireadh breithniú breise ar an mBille ar Further consideration of the Bill athló. adjourned.

6. ATHLÁ. 6. ADJOURNMENT.

Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 8.29p.m. go The Committee adjourned at 8.29p.m. dtí 5.00p.m. Dé Céadaoin, 22 Samhain, until 5.00 p.m. on Wednesday, 22 2017. November, 2017.

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IMEACHTAÍ AN ROGHCHOISTE

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE

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Dé Céadaoin, 22 Samhain, 2017

Wednesday, 22 November, 2017 ______

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 5.11 p.m. 1. The Committee met at 5.11 p.m.

5 6 2. COMHALTAÍ I LÁTHAIR . 2. MEMBERS PRESENT .

An Teachta Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn (i Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (in the Chair), gCeannas), An Teachta Máire Mistéil Ní Deputy Mary Mitchell O’Connor (Minister Chonchubhair (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn of State at the Department of Education and Oideachais agus Scileanna), na Teachtaí Skills), Deputies Thomas Byrne, James Tomás Ó Broin, James Lawless, Caitríona Lawless, Catherine Martin and Tony Ní Mhairtín agus Antoine Mac Lochlainn. McLoughlin.

3. AN BILLE NA HOLLSCOILEANNA 3. TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES BILL 2015. TEICNEOLAÍOCHTA, 2017.

D’athchrom an Coiste ar an mBille a The Committee resumed consideration of bhreithniú. the Bill.

(i) Alt 42. (i) Section 42.

Tairgeadh leasú 115 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 115 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 116 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 116 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 117 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 117 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills)

5 Ghlac an Teachta Máire Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) ionad an Aire Oideachais agus Scileanna [B.O. 95(1)]. Bhí an Teachta James Lawless i láthair [B.O. 95(3)].

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aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(ii) Aontaíodh alt 43. (ii) Section 43 agreed to.

(iii) Alt 44. (iii) Section 44.

Tairgeadh leasú 118 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 118 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 119 (An Teachta Máíre Amendment 119 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 120 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 120 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) tarraingíodh siar an leasú, faoi chead. proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

Tairgeadh leasú 121 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 121 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 122 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 122 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 123 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 123 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 124 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 124 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 125 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 125 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 126 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 126 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(iv) Alt 45. (iv) Section 45.

Tairgeadh leasú 127 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 127 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 128 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 128 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 129 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 129 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 130 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 130 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 131 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 131 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 132 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 132 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the

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Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 133 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 133 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 134 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 134 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 135 (An Teachta Máíre Amendment 135 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 136 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 136 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 137 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 137 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 138 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 138 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachias agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(v) Alt 46. (v) Section 46.

Tairgeadh leasú 139 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 139 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 140 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 140 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(vi) Alt 47. (vi) Section 47.

Tairgeadh leasú 141 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 141 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 142 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 142 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(vii) Alt 48. (vii) Section 48.

Tairgeadh leasú 143 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 143 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(viii) Aontaíodh ailt 49 agus 50. (viii) Sections 49 and 50 agreed to.

(ix) Alt 51. (ix) Section 51.

Tairgeadh leasú 144 (An Teachta Máíre Amendment 144 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) tarraingíodh siar an leasú, faoi chead. proposed and, by leave, withdrawn.

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Aontaíodh alt. Section agreed to.

(x) Aontaíodh alt 52. (x) Section 52 agreed to.

(xi) Alt 53. (xi) Section 53.

Tairgeadh leasú 145 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 145 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xii) Aontaíodh alt 54. (xii) Section 54 agreed to.

(xiii) Alt 55. (xiii) Section 55.

Tairgeadh leasú 146 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 146 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 147 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 147 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xiv) Alt 56. (xiv) Section 56.

Tairgeadh leasú 148 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 148 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

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(xv) Scriosadh alt 57. (xv) Section 57 deleted.

(xvi) Scriosadh alt 58. (xvi) Section 58 deleted.

(xvii) Scriosadh alt 59. (xvii) Section 59 deleted.

(xviii) Scriosadh alt 60. (xviii) Section 60 deleted.

(xix) Scriosadh alt 61. (xix) Section 61 deleted.

(xx) Scriosadh alt 62. (xx) Section 62 deleted.

(xxi) Scriosadh alt 63. (xxi) Section 63 deleted.

(xxii) Scriosadh alt 64. (xxii) Section 64 deleted.

(xxiii) Scriosadh alt 65. (xxiii) Section 65 deleted.

(xxiv) Scriosadh alt 66. (xxiv) Section 66 deleted.

(xxv) Scriosadh alt 67. (xxv) Section 67 deleted.

(xxvi) Scriosadh alt 68. (xxvi) Section 68 deleted.

(xxvii) Scriosadh alt 69. (xxvii) Section 69 deleted.

(xxviii) Scriosadh alt 70. (xxviii) Section 70 deleted.

(xxix) Scriosadh alt 71. (xxix) Section 71 deleted.

(xxx) Scriosadh alt 72. (xxx) Section 72 deleted.

(xxxi) Alt 73. (xxxi) Section 73.

Tairgeadh leasú 149 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 149 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the

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Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 150 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 150 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxxii) Aontaíodh ailt 74 go 78, go huile. (xxxii) Sections 74 to 78, inclusive, agreed to.

(xxxiii) Alt 79. (xxxiii) Section 79.

Tairgeadh leasú 151 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 151 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 152 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 152 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxxiv) Alt 80. (xxxiv) Section 80.

Tairgeadh leasú 153 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 153 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 154 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 154 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 155 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 155 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the

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Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 156 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 156 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 157 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 157 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxxv) Alt 81. (xxxv) Section 81.

Tairgeadh leasú 158 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 158 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 159 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 159 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 160 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 160 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 161 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 161 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxxvi) Alt 82. (xxxvi) Section 82.

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Tairgeadh leasú 162 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 162 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xxxvii) Alt nua. (xxxvii) New section.

Tairgeadh leasú 163 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 163 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú -cuireadh isteach an t- proposed and agreed to – new section alt nua. inserted.

(xxxviii) Scriosadh alt 83. (xxxviii) Section 83 deleted.

(xxxix) Alt nua. (xxxix) New section.

Tairgeadh leasú 164 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 164 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú -cuireadh isteach an t- proposed and agreed to – new section alt nua. inserted.

(xl) Alt 84. (xl) Section 84.

Tairgeadh leasú 165 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 165 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 166 (An Teachta Máíre Amendment 166 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xli) Alt 85. (xli) Section 85.

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Tairgeadh leasú 167 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 167 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 168 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 168 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 169 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 169 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 170 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 170 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 171 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 171 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 172 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 172 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xlii) Alt 86. (xlii) Section 86.

Tairgeadh leasú 173 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 173 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 174 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 174 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills)

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aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 175 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 175 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 176 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 176 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xliii) Ailt nua. (xliii) New sections.

Tairgeadh leasú 177 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 177 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú -cuireadh isteach an t- proposed and agreed to – new section alt nua. inserted.

Tairgeadh leasú 178 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 178 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú -cuireadh isteach an t- proposed and agreed to – new section alt nua. inserted.

Tairgeadh leasú 179 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 179 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú -cuireadh isteach an t- proposed and agreed to – new section alt nua. inserted.

(xliv) Alt 87. (xliv) Section 87.

Tairgeadh leasú 180 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 180 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

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(xlv) Aontaíodh ailt 88 agus 89. (xlv) Sections 88 and 89 agreed to.

(xlvi) Alt 90. (xlvi) Section 90.

Tairgeadh leasú 181 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 181 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 182 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 182 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xlvii) Aontaíodh ailt 91 go 96, go huile. (xlvii) Sections 91 to 96, inclusive, agreed to.

(xlviii) Alt 97. (xlviii) Section 97.

Tairgeadh leasú 183 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 183 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 184 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 184 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 185 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 185 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 186 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 186 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

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Tairgeadh leasú 187 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 187 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(xlix) Aontaíodh ailt 98 go 102, go huile. (xlix) Sections 98 to 102, inclusive, agreed to.

(l) Alt 103. (l) Section 103.

Tairgeadh leasú 188 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 188 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 189 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 189 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(li) Alt 104. (li) Section 104.

Tairgeadh leasú 190 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 190 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 191 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 191 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(lii) Aontaíodh ailt 105 go 110, go huile. (lii) Sections 105 to 110, inclusive, agreed to.

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(liii) Alt 111. (liii) Section 111.

Tairgeadh leasú 192 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 192 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 193 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 193 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 194 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 194 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 195 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 195 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an t-alt, mar a leasaíodh. Section, as amended, agreed to

(liv) Aontaíodh ailt 112 go 117, go huile. (liv) Sections 112 to 117, inclusive, agreed to.

(lv) Sceideal 1. (lv) Schedule 1.

Tairgeadh leasú 196 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 196 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 197 (An Teachta Máíre Amendment 197 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéíl Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Tairgeadh leasú 198 (An Teachta Máíre Amendment 198 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the

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Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an Sceideal, mar a leasaíodh. Schedule, as amended, agreed to

(lvi) Aontaíodh Sceideal 2. (lvi) Schedule 2 agreed to.

(lvii) An Teideal. (lvii) Title.

Tairgeadh leasú 199 (An Teachta Máire Amendment 199 (Deputy Mary Mitchell Mistéil Ní Chonchubhair, Aire Stáit ag an O’Connor, Minister of State at the Roinn Oideachais agus Scileanna) agus Department of Education and Skills) aontaíodh an leasú. proposed and agreed to.

Aontaíodh an Teideal, mar a leasaíodh. Title, as amended, agreed to.

4. CRÍOCHNÚ AN GHNÓ. 4. CONCLUSION OF BUSINESS.

Chríochnaigh an Coiste a bhreithniú ar an The Committee concluded its mBille ar 6.00 p.m. consideration of the Bill at 6.00 p.m.

5. TEACHTAIREACHT CHUIG DÁIL 5. MESSAGE TO DÁIL ÉIREANN. ÉIREANN.

Cuireadh teachtaireacht chun na Dála á Message sent to the Dáil acquainting it chur in iúl di gur chríochnaigh an Coiste a that the Committee had completed its bhreithniú ar an mBille agus go raibh consideration of the Bill and had made leasuithe déanta aige air agus go raibh amendments thereto and had amended the leasú déanta aige ar an Teideal chun go Title to read as follows: léifidh sé mar a leanas:

“AN ACT TO PROVIDE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES; TO PROVIDE FOR THE FUNCTIONS AND GOVERNANCE OF TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES; TO PROVIDE FOR THE DISSOLUTION, IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, OF INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY AND DUBLIN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY AND THE TRANSFER OF THEIR FUNCTIONS, ASSETS, LIABILITIES AND STAFF TO TECHNOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES; TO PROVIDE FOR THE REFORM OF THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES OF INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY AND DUBLIN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY; TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENT OF

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CERTAIN ENACTMENTS AND TO PROVIDE FOR RELATED MATTERS.”

6. ATHLÁ. 6. ADJOURNMENT.

Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 6.00 p.m. go The Committee adjourned at 6.00 p.m. dtí 4.00 p.m. Dé Máirt, 5 Nollaig, 2017. until 4.00 p.m. on Tuesday, 5 December, 2017.

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FIONA O’LOUGHLIN T.D., Chairman, 22nd November 2017.

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IMEACHTAÍ AN ROGHCHOISTE

PROCEEDINGS OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE

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Dé Máirt, 5 Nollaig, 2017

Tuesday, 5 December, 2017 ______

1. Chruinnigh an Coiste ar 4.06 p.m. 1. The Committee met at 4.06 p.m.

2. COMHALTAÍ I LÁTHAIR. 2. MEMBERS PRESENT.

Bhí na comhaltaí seo a leanas i láthair: The following Members were present:

An Teachta Fíona M. Ní Lochlainn (i Deputy Fiona O’Loughlin (in the Chair), gCeannas), An Teachta Risteárd de Deputy Richard Bruton (Minister for Briotún (an tAire Oideachais agus Education and Skills), Deputy John Scileanna), An Teachta Seán Ó Halligan (Minister of State at the hAileagáin (Aire Stáit ag an Roinn Department of Education and Skills) Oideachais agus Scileanna) na Teachtaí Deputies Thomas Byrne, Kathleen Tomás Ó Broin, Kathleen Funchion, Funchion, Catherine Martin, Tony Caitríona Ní Mhairtín, Antoine Mac McLoughlin and Jan O’Sullivan. Lochlainn, agus Jan Bean Uí Shúilleabháin.

3. BREITHNIÚ AR MHEASTACHÁIN I 3. CONSIDERATION OF ESTIMATES FOR GCOMHAIR SEIRBHÍSÍ POIBLÍ. PUBLIC SERVICES.

Vóta 26 (Oideachais agus Scileanna) Vote 26 (Education and Skills) (Meastachán Forlíontach). (Supplementary Estimate).

Críochnaíodh an breithniú ar an Consideration of the Estimate was Meastachán. concluded.

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Meastachán. consideration of the Estimate.

4. ATHLÁ. 4. ADJOURNMENT.

Chuaigh an Coiste ar athló ar 5.12 p.m. The Committee adjourned at 5.12 p.m. sine die. sine die.

______FIONA O’LOUGHLIN, T.D. Chairman 5th December 2017

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