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SHRI Ajit SINGH: Sir, I also lay on the in laying the papers mentioned at (l) above. Table a copy each (in. English and Hindi) of the following papers: — [Placed in Library. See No. LT-56/89 for (I) and (II)] (i) Annual Report and Accounts of the National Productivity Council, New Delhi, for the year 1988-89, together with the Auditors' Report on the Accounts. THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN (CHAIR (ii) Statement (by Government IN THE DEMAND FOR A STATE- accepting the above Report; MENT ON SRI LANKA)

[Placed in Library. See No. LT-35/89] THE DEPUTY 'CHAIRMAN; Special Mentions. Dr. Ratnakar Pandey, Employees' Family Pension (Second Amendment) Scheme, 1989 SHRI K. V. THANGKABALU (Tamil Nadu); Madam.' we want a statement on Sri THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM AND Lanka. Daily thousands of people are being CHEMICALS (SHRI M. S. killed. The Government is giving a clean chit GURUPADASWAMY): On behalf of * Shri to LITE. I lay on the Table, under sub-seeion (2) of section 7 of the Employees THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: There is a Provident Funds and Miscellaneous Provision special Mention on Sri Lanka. Please sit Act, 1952, a copy (in English and Hindi) of the down. Ministry of Labour Notification G.S.R. No. 608, dated the 12th August, 1989, publishing SHRl SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY (Uttar the Employees' Family Pension (Second Pradesh): Why a Special Mention? Amendment) Scheme, 1989. [Placed in Why not a full-fledged -discussion? Library. See No. LT-43/89] (Interruptions)

Statement of Accounts (1985-86) of the SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY (PO- Punjab Housing Development Board, NDICHERRY): There were talks with the Chandigarh and related papers. Government of Sri Lanka and LTTE also had talks with the Chief Minister, Shri THE MINISTER OF URBAN Karunanidhi. We-should know the outcome. DEVELOPMENT (SHRl MURASOLI Tlrc House is sitting. MARAN): Sir I lay on the Table— THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: No, I will not .1. A copy (in English and Hindi of the allow. Please have order -in the House, We have Annual Statement of Accounts of the listed a Special Mention on this. Let me go Punjab Housing Development Board, through it. Don't disturb. Dr. Ratnakar Pandey. Chandigarh, for the year, 1985-86, together No, I have not allowed. (Interruptions') with the Auditors' Report on the Accounts, under sub-seetion (3) of Section 68 of the SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: We want Punjab Housing Development Board Act, to know the outcome of the talks. 1972, read with sub-clause (iii) of clause (c) of the Proclamation, dated the Hth THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please have May, 1987, issued ,by the President in re- peace in the House. You want peace in Sri lation to the State of Punjab. Lanka. Let us have peace in the House . .No, I am not joking. I never joke " in serious II. Statement (in English and Hindi) matters. (Interruptions). giving reasons for the delay 103 Demand pr Statement [ ] on Sri Lankas 104

SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY: It is a Students Federation has issued to all the total surrender by the Tamil Nadu Hindu Community that they should get Government to LTTE. Let them make out of the hostels or otherwise they this admission before this House. Let would meet the same fate. as others. All them admit that they have no policy on this has been issued with a purpose... Sri Lanka. (Interruptions) (.interruptions)...

THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I re THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN': You quest the hon. Members ...... ask the Chairman. If he gives permission, is can be discussed in the House. I cannot give the permission. Let the Chairman permit it.

SHRI DARBARA SINGH: This is a serious matter... (Interruptions).,, THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: This is not proper.

SHRI DARBARA SINGH: It is a SHRI M. M. JACOB (Kerala,).-We serious matter. They issued it to want to know whether Government is everybody. In seven hostels they have prepared to come out with a statement on said that they would meet the same fate. Sri Lanka. They said, "We are killing you, we will kill all, we will decimate you."... THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN; There (Jnterruptsons).. .There must be a Js a Special Mention on this. You can ask discussion on it as it is being discussed in whether the Government is coming out the . with a statement or not. Leader of the House is here. He will reply. THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please (Interruptions) ask the Chairman and get the permss- sion... (Interruptions).. .Dr. Ratnakar I cannot hear anybody. I wish one of you Pandey... |Interruptions)... were sitting here. Then you would know that five people speaking at the same SHRI S. S. AHLUWALIA (Bihar): time cannot be heard by anyone.... This is a very serious matter... (In- (Interruptions) . . . .What you are saying, terruptions) ... I do not know. On Sri Lanka there is a Special Mention. How many times THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I say to should I mention it? There is a Special you, you ask the Chairman. If the Mention on which you can mention what Chairman gives permission, Government you like about Sri Lanka,.. will come out with it. Let the permiission (interruptions).. .Please Dr. Ratnakar be granted... (Interruptions) . . .please . .. Pandey. (Interruptions) ...

1 SHRI SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY: SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: The whole House should, be able to The Deputy Prime Minister is here. discuss it... (Interruptions)... Let him say on this... (Interrup tions) ... • SHRI DARBARA SINGH (Punjab): Madam, I am on a point of order. There SHRI KAMALENDU BHATTA- is a very serious matter which is being CHARJEE (Assam): Let the Deputy discussed in the Lok Sabha, and here I Chairman.. .say about if..'. (Interrup-' would like to know your opinion about tions)... We want a statement; from the it. The All- Sikh Deputy Prime Minister... (Inter- ruptions)..

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SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: The Home Minister is also here... THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Please ... (Interruptions), sit down. I said, "I am not allowing .anything except the listed special men . SHRl KAMALENDU BHATTA- tions." Please take your seat. Mr. Pandey, CHARJEE: The Home Minister is here... please. (Interruptions) No please. Let him (Interruptions). speak. Let him make . his special mention. I ajn not allowing anything else, DR. RATNAKAR PANDEY (Uttar (interruptions) No point of order now. Pradesh): Madam, please control the Don't defy the Chair so much. Please sit House so that I can make my Special down. I would not allow anybody else Mention... (Interruptions)... Nothing else. Nothing else will SHRI YASHWANT SINHA (Bihar) : go I am on a point of order... (In- terruptions). ..

THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I re- on record. quest honourable Members again, .please have order in the House... DR. RATNAKAR PANDEY: You (Interruptions).. .Please sit down . This is control them. not the way. If the Government want; they will come forward with it. You cannot force them... Wntemiptions).. THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: You are .Please take your seats (Interruptions).. speaking. You control them. .No, won't allow you. DR, RATNAKAR, PANDEY: Please control the House, Madam. Then I will SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATARA- start. (Interruptions,) JAN (Tamil Nadu): I am on a point'of order.. (Interruptions). SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATA- RAJAN: * THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Just a THE DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: I am not minute. This is not the way. If the allowing you. Please take your seat. Government want to come out— they have heard it—they will come back. M SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATA- the Chairman allows you, I will allow RAJAN: * you... (Interruptions) ... SPECIAL MENTIONS SHRI TINDIVANAM G. VENKA- TARAMAN (Tamil Nadu):Why are Spurt in, anti-national activities in they, shouting?... (Interruptions)... SHRI KAMALENDU BHATTA- CHARJEE: Are you a Minister?... (Interruptions)... SHRI YASHWANT SINHA: Madam Deputy Chairman, it is very unfortunate that a senior member like Mr. Jagesh Desai is. inciting his Members. What is thss? The moment he sees the Home Minister he does like this. A senior Member like him' (In-Herruptsons). SHRI VITHALRAO MADHAVRAO JADHAV (Maharashtra): The Minister is there. You need not get up. The Minister is there to answer. Jammu and Kashmir ♦Not recorded.