From: Margaret Davies [email protected] Subject: Cyngor Cymuned Pentyrch Community Council Contact: Surgery Date: 10 October 2020 at 11:00 To: [email protected]
To: Webmaster
Name: Margaret Davies
Email: [email protected]
Subject: Surgery
Message: As the WI campaigned to get a doctor in the village, I think the village should campaign to keep the surgery in the village at least in some form. With people not being able to meet because of Covid maybe the Community Link could start it off.
Sent from (ip address): 79.67.40.103 (79-67-40-103.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) Date/Time: October 10, 2020 10:00 am Coming from (referer): http://www.pentyrch.cc/?page_id=207 Using (user agent): Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_6) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/14.0 Safari/605.1.15 From: John Harrison [email protected] Subject: Date: 11 October 2020 at 11:25 To: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected]
Hi Helena We had a PNW Meeting earlier this week. . It was reported that some residents had had Police Reports via Facebook that had never happened before . There are also reports of increased telephone call scams . As PNW are keen to publish something in Community Link could you please let me have dates for next issue . Now that the news of the future of General Medical Practice in Pentyrch is out there is much concern and anger being vented on social media . I must admit being really concerned about the secrecy about the whole issue. There is a lot of history wrapped up in GP services especially in Pentyrch which is very poorly served by public transport . Regards JH From: Deb Hunt offi[email protected] Subject: Fwd: Pentyrch surgery Date: 12 October 2020 at 13:38 To: Helena Fox [email protected]
can i share this ?
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f.y.i. i shared this today, Tracey dropping up posters for our noticeboards to me later today.
https://www.facebook.com/gavin.hilljohn/videos/2817762158503768/
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: Fwd: Meeting with residents of Rhydlafar about the proposed surgery Date: 25 November 2020 at 09:41 To: Stuart Thomas [email protected], Mike Sherwood [email protected]
Please see the invitation below. I can't be there since I'm training councillors for OVW on Thursday evening. I've said you will reply to Andy direct. The RRG is very opposed to the new surgery site.
Thanks,
Helena ------Original Message ------From: "[email protected]"
Hi Helena
At 6.30 pm on Thursday we are having an "informal zoom meeting" with members of Rhydlafar Residents Group. There will be 4 of our members in attendance and the objective of the meeting is to confirm their views about the proposals and what they would like to see the community council do.
We would be pleased to welcome a member of Pentyrch community council and/or yourself.
Please will you let me know if anyone would like to attend and I will forward on the zoom code.
Regards
Andy Gowman
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
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Helena Fox
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1 Clos St Catwg Rhydlafar St Fagans Cardiff, CF5 6PA 17 November 2020
Dear Councillor Stuart Thomas
Proposed Re-location of the Pentyrch Surgery to Rhydlafar Estate
I am a resident of Rhydlafar and a member of the Rhydlafar Residents Group. I am writing to you about the proposed relocation of the Pentyrch surgery to a new medical center (catering for over 10,000 patients) on the small patch of green space at the entrance to the Rhydlafar estate.
I appreciate that Rhydlafar is situated in the St Fagans Community Council, and indeed we had a constructive meeting with St Fagans CC on Monday night. However, the proposed relocation of the Pentyrch surgery to the Rhydlafar site is an issue that will have a significant impact on both Pentyrch and Rhydlafar residents, hence my letter to you.
There are many residents of Rhydlafar who are very concerned about this proposed new development. We see it as a very poor location that benefits neither the residents of Pentyrch, nor Rhydlafar, nor indeed the future residents of Plas Dwr. We believe that it is out of line with the Local Development Plan that seeks to create “sustainable neighbourhoods” that minimize car travel and that provide community facilities that can be reached within a 15 minute walk. It is also out of line with all the promises made about Plas Dwr and the location of facilities to serve its residents within the Plas Dwr development.
The Rhydlafar Residents Group would therefore be very grateful to understand the following points:
• Have you canvased the views of Pentyrch residents to understand their views on the proposed relocation of their GP services?
• What feedback have you received from Pentyrch residents?
• Have you taken any steps to represent the views of Pentyrch residents to Cardiff Council, the Health Board or any other official body?
• What feedback have you received from Cardiff Council, the Health Board, or other official bodies when discussing concerns with them?
• What is the view of Pentyrch Community Council on the matter?
We would really appreciate a response and/or discussion with you on this matter.
Yours sincerely
Bethan Devonald On behalf of the Rhydlafar Residents Group From: Deb Hunt offi[email protected] Subject: Fwd: Surgery PNW Date: 2 December 2020 at 10:39 To: Tracey Enright Tracey.Enright@wales.nhs.uk
morning,
f.y.i.
SURGERY UPDATE - PNW NEEDS YOUR HELP- Interim results of our survey (closes midnight Saturday), show a 78% majority opposing the closure of Pentyrch Surgery. It's now also very likely we'll lose our Pharmacy as well. If we're to try and retain these long standing essential services volunteers are needed. If you can/want to help the campaign reply via F/book messenger (seen only by me) with your name and a contact number. Thanks
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Kind regards, Deb :)
Deborah Hunt, Community Engagement Officer Pentyrch Community Council
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For November Meeting 16.11.2020
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The move to a purpose-built health centre was clear to us already so this is not a surprise.
A modern, purpose built 21st century facility has to be an improvement over a porta-cabin.
The question of Pentyrch Pharmacy is not a matter for PCC in my view. The pharmacy is not a state-run service it is a private business and can decide to trade from wherever it likes. -0-0-
I very much doubt that the [new bus] service [down Church Road] will be suitable for our Village needs.
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Some of you may be aware of Cardiff and Vale Health Board's plans to relocate Pentyrch Surgery to a site on Rhydlafar drive. There has been some talk on the Pentyrch community group on Facebook over the weekend in relation to this.
I've added a link below to the consultation website.
I have some issues with the website and the way this is being presented and can understand the views of the majority of people commenting on the proposal. I understand this is a planning matter but the way it is being presented is as though it is a done deal and the plans have already been approved, I feel this is misleading and wonder whether this is something that we as a council can comment on outside of the planning committee as it doesn't appear to have reached the application stage yet? I expect there to be a lot of communication over the coming days/weeks from residents, who it would appear are not very supportive of these plans and feel some reassurance that this is still in the early pre application consultation phase would help alleviate some of their concerns and allow them to direct their comments to the correct place.
I have not commented on the Facebook posts myself as I'm unsure if this is wise or indeed allowed and thought it best to seek guidance first.
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I believe the new surgery location came up in a planning meeting a while back and I expressed concerns about medical care for the village . As a Community Council we should respond to the village concerns and discuss this at the October meeting. The minutes will then reflect the concerns of the various councillors who participate, and the community can see that we are responding to this situation.
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I have believed for a long time that the Surgery proposals have been a done deal .
The proposals take away the Surgery and Pharmacy from Pentyrch Village, facilities that were fought hard for over a number of years by residents. It is plain to see that the new proposals are to mainly cater for the huge development along Llantrisant Road and beyond .
There is talk that there is only a certain amount of money available and I understand that, however, if CCC had been on the ball and had the real interest of residents at heart at the initial stages and listened to concerns much more finance could have come from the Developers who must have thought it was Christmas all over again and I can’t for the life of me understand why this was not vigorously pursued! However, we have what we have and we will need to ensure we secure the best we can.
I feel we need early access to the planned layout, facilities, access and available parking to be provided instead of the normal drip feeding process that is underway at the moment.
Work on Church Road is welcome as this has been a source of concern for a long time as more and more people, vehicles, cycles, pedestrians and horses use the road and it becomes a Rat Run for many (and this will surely greatly increase in time to come). I have received some comments in relation to the quality and standard of surface work underway, especially at the edges which appears to have the potential for early erosion. Signage on this road also gives some concern .
Access to the new facility is also of concern and I know that some discussions are underway to provide a bus service similar to that provided for GYG and although recent official comments say it is working well I would rather believe the comments of others and those that use the service.
Pentyrch has always been poorly served in relation to Public Transport and it appears that this will continue. CCC want to ease the public into using more Public Transport and I am sure they would if proper infrastructure was in place, but whilst we have what we have there is no chance of the required shift to take place .
I often feel that Pentyrch and Creigiau are the forgotten Cousins in the CCC family.
From: [email protected] Subject: Meeting with residents of Rhydlafar about the proposed surgery Date: 24 November 2020 at 20:07 To: [email protected]
Hi Helena
At 6.30 pm on Thursday we are having an "informal zoom meeting" with members of Rhydlafar Residents Group. There will be 4 of our members in attendance and the objective of the meeting is to confirm their views about the proposals and what they would like to see the community council do.
We would be pleased to welcome a member of Pentyrch community council and/or yourself.
Please will you let me know if anyone would like to attend and I will forward on the zoom code.
Regards
Andy Gowman
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
Home - 01446 760091 Mobile - 07940590076 From: Pentyrch Clerk [email protected] Subject: PCC Pentyrch Surgery Comments Date: 16 November 2020 at 12:04 To: Dixon, Gary [email protected], Ellis Owen [email protected], Teresa Filipponi teresa.fi[email protected], John Harrison [email protected], Ian Jones [email protected], Sara Pickard [email protected], Jena Quilter ([email protected]) [email protected], Simon Roberts ([email protected]) [email protected], Sandie Rosser [email protected], Sherwood, Mike [email protected], Karen Thomas ([email protected]) [email protected], Stuart Thomas [email protected], Thorpe, Amanda [email protected]
Attached is what I have so far.
It is correct that this project has been approved and is going to happen. There has been a long process of selecting a site and contractor (if that's the correct term). That is now done. I imagine we will see the details of the building application in due course - but don't know that for sure.
You can respond to the online consultation in your own names, just not using your title of Cllr.
Thanks,
Helena
Helena Fox
Clerk to Pentyrch Community Council
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PCC Comments on Pen…ry.docx
Tracey Enright Practice Manager Llandaff and Pentyrch Surgeries
By email
November 18 2020
Dear Tracey,
Pentyrch Surgery
We were grateful that you and Dr Arulanandam could attend PCC’s online October Council meeting and update us on the plans for the new surgery. We appreciate that several Pentyrch sites were explored and while we are extremely disappointed that none proved suitable and regret the loss of the facilities to the village, we understand that the move is a necessary part of Cardiff’s huge new housing developments.
We have promoted the community consultation and hope that you have had a good response. We all understand that the closing of the surgery at Pentyrch and the move to the site at Ryhdlafar comes with a mix of loss and gain.
The new building will provide far better facilities for patients, medical and admin staff. It will also provide a much wider range of services meaning that people do not have to travel as far or to several different locations for treatments. The idea of a coffee room for people to socialise sounds welcoming – although quite hard to imagine during these months of Covid- 19.
That said, something we all recognize as being very important is how Pentyrch residents who do not drive can reach the new surgery. From what you said to us, the number of patients who currently walk to the Pentyrch surgery is small, perhaps smaller than many realise. However, for that albeit small number of patients, reaching the new site will be a considerable problem. The route down Church Road has no public transport and is certainly not a road that can be walked down, let alone up, even for those able to do so.
We were reassured to hear that the Practice takes this access problem very seriously and is looking into ways to help and discussing it with Cardiff. A Flecsi Bus service might be an answer and Cllr Gavin Hill-John mentioned that such a service might be able to link to the Royal Glamorgan Hospital.
PCC urges you on behalf of all its residents and particular those who do not drive to work with Cardiff and the Health Board to find a solution to travel between Pentyrch village and the new surgery. Please let us know if there is anything that we can do to help.
Yours sincerely,
Helena Fox Clerk to PCC
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From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: PDF from Pentyrch surgery Date: 9 November 2020 at 13:34 To: Stuart Thomas [email protected], Stuart Thomas [email protected], Deb Hunt offi[email protected]
Here it is.
Helena
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Dweud Eich Dweud!
Mae Meddyfga Pentrych yn symud. Rhannwch eich barn ar y cynlluniau drwy gymryd rhan yn ein harolwg byr. Ewch i assurapentyrch.com neu sganiwch y cod QR Neu cysylltwch â Chyngor Iechyd Cymunedol De Morgannwg erbyn dydd Iau 3ydd Rhagfyr Ffôniwch 02920 750112 Tecstwch ‘CAVOGCHC’ i 62277 ac yna’ch neges SouthGlam.chiefoffi[email protected]
Have Your Say!
Pentrych Surgery is relocatng. Share your views on the proposed plans by taking part in our short survey. Visit assurapentyrch.com or scan the QR code Or get in touch with the South Glamorgan Community Health Council by Thursday 3rd December Phone 02920 750112 Text 'CAVOGCHC' TO 62277 followed by your message SouthGlam.chiefoffi[email protected] From: Tracey Enright (Llandaff - Llandaff Surgery) [email protected] Subject: pentyrch community council minutes Date: 6 November 2020 at 10:42 To: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected]
Hi Helena,
Would it be possible to send out an amendment to the minutes. I am really sorry, but we actually reviewed 25 sites and narrowed down to 6. I did not mention the 6th site as we were not allowed to name it due to the information being redacted for commercially sensitive reasons.
Tracey
Tracey Enright Practice Manager Llandaff and Pentyrch Surgeries 19a High Street Llandaff Cardiff CF5 2DY Tel 029 20576675 Fax 029 20553295 www.llandaffsurgery.co.uk From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: Pentyrch Surgery : update. CONFIDENTIAL Date: 23 September 2020 at 12:04 To: Ellis Owen [email protected], Teresa Filipponi teresa.fi[email protected], John Harrison [email protected], Ian Jones [email protected], Sara Pickard [email protected], Jena Quilter ([email protected]) [email protected], Simon Roberts ([email protected]) [email protected], Sandie Rosser [email protected], Sherwood, Mike [email protected], Karen Thomas ([email protected]) [email protected], Stuart Thomas [email protected], Thorpe, Amanda [email protected]
I've just heard from the Practice Manager and here's an update: I'm not sure what is and isn't confidential so please consider all this to be confidential for now.
The site for the new surgery has been chosen at Rhydlafar and issues are still being discussed with Cardiff. Six weeks of public engagement consultation will start in the first week of October It will be all digital and there will be a questionnaire for the public on issues like which services they would like at the centre and transport will definitely be raised All patients will receive a text about this There will be a press release which I'll get a copy of in due course all households will get a letter about this too
We discussed having a piece in the Link - next deadline is November so too late for this - but there can be an update.
I offered to put any info online/Facebook, etc.
Thanks,
Helena
Helena Fox
Clerk to Pentyrch Community Council
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Hi Helena Following on from last nights meeting and particularly Karen’s comment would you include the topic of a PCC Response to the Pentyrch Surgery Consultation at the earliest place on the November agenda even before the County Councillor reports so that if they turn up they too can have an input. Would you also let all members know of this when you send out the minutes from last evening so members will know of the opportunity to make any points they wish on what is likely to be such a very important discussion. Thanks Stuart From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: Pentyrch Surgery discussion for November meeting Date: 9 November 2020 at 10:23 To: Dixon, Gary [email protected], Ellis Owen [email protected], Teresa Filipponi teresa.fi[email protected], John Harrison [email protected], Ian Jones [email protected], Sara Pickard [email protected], Jena Quilter ([email protected]) [email protected], Simon Roberts ([email protected]) [email protected], Sandie Rosser [email protected], Sherwood, Mike [email protected], Karen Thomas ([email protected]) [email protected], Stuart Thomas [email protected], Thorpe, Amanda [email protected]
Please send me all your comments so I can collate them and make the meeting discussion more productive and not so long.
Thanks,
Helena
Helena Fox
Clerk to Pentyrch Community Council
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Hi Helena,
The posters have arrived, should I bring them to you or drop them at the office?
Tracey Enright Practice Manager Llandaff and Pentyrch Surgeries 19a High Street Llandaff Cardiff CF5 2DY Tel 029 20576675 Fax 029 20553295 www.llandaffsurgery.co.uk From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: Pentyrch Surgery Date: 20 October 2020 at 15:08 To: Dixon, Gary [email protected], Ellis Owen [email protected], Teresa Filipponi teresa.fi[email protected], John Harrison [email protected], Ian Jones [email protected], Sara Pickard [email protected], Jena Quilter ([email protected]) [email protected], Simon Roberts ([email protected]) [email protected], Sandie Rosser [email protected], Sherwood, Mike [email protected], Karen Thomas ([email protected]) [email protected], Stuart Thomas [email protected], Thorpe, Amanda [email protected]
As discussed last night, this will be on the agenda for the November 16 meeting. If you have comments you wish to make/contribute to a PCC response please send them to me and I will compile them for the meeting so that you have a picture of Members' views.
Thanks,
Helena
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Can we have a chat on the phone about the plans to move Pentyrch Surgery?
Many thanks,
Helena
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Good evening all,
Some of you may be aware of Cardiff and Vale Health Board's plans to relocate Pentyrch Surgery to a site on Rhydlafar drive. There has been some talk on the Pentyrch community group on Facebook over the weekend in relation to this.
I've added a link below to the consultation website.
I have some issues with the website and the way this is being presented and can understand the views of the majority of people commenting on the proposal. I understand this is a planning matter but the way it is being presented is as though it is a done deal and the plans have already been approved, I feel this is misleading and wonder whether this is something that we as a council can comment on outside of the planning committee as it doesn't appear to have reached the application stage yet? I expect there to be a lot of communication over the coming days/weeks from residents, who it would appear are not very supportive of these plans and feel some reassurance that this is still in the early pre application consultation phase would help alleviate some of their concerns and allow them to direct their comments to the correct place. I have not commented on the Facebook posts myself as I'm unsure if this is wise or indeed allowed and thought it best to seek guidance first.
Thanks Ian
http://assurapentyrch.com/ From: Pentyrch Clerk [email protected] Subject: Pentyrch Surgery Date: 19 November 2020 at 09:25 To: Tracey Enright (Llandaff - Llandaff Surgery) [email protected]
Please find attached a formal letter about the move of the surgery. We are getting a few concerned residents contacting us and we will publish this letter in the next Community Link - which won't be until February.
When we met online you mentioned the possibility of PCC attending a meeting with Assura and the Health Board. Is that still a possibility?
Hope all is going well and don't hesitate to let us know if we can help.
Many thanks,
Helena
Helena Fox
Clerk to Pentyrch Community Council
Tel: 07855566538
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From: Bethan Devonald [email protected] Subject: Proposed relocation of Pentyrch Surgery to Rhydlafar Date: 18 November 2020 at 16:28 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected], offi[email protected]
Dear Councillor Stuart Thomas
My name is Bethan Devonald. I am a resident of Rhydlafar and a member of the Rhydlafar Residents Group.
I attach a letter to you and the Pentyrch Community Council, written on behalf of the Rhydlafar Residents Group, concerning the proposed relocation of the Pentyrch surgery to the small patch of green area at the entrance to the Rhydlafar estate.
I appreciate that Rhydlafar is situated in the St Fagans Community Council. However, the proposed relocation of the Pentyrch surgery to the Rhydlafar site is an issue that will have a significant impact on both Pentyrch and Rhydlafar residents, hence this letter to you.
I would be very grateful if you could confirm receipt of this email. We look forward to further dialogue with you.
Kind regards
Bethan Devonald
Letter to Stuart Thoma…cil.pdf From: ST Council [email protected] Subject: Proposed relocation of Pentyrch Surgery to Rhydlafar Date: 18 November 2020 at 19:08 To: Clerk PCC [email protected]
Hi Helena I have replied to this email :-
Dear Ms Devonald Thank you for your email regarding the relocation of the Pentyrch Surgery to Rhydlafar.
This matter has been discussed by the Pentyrch Community Council and I have forwarded your email to the Clerk of the Council as it is only appropriate for her to reply to you. Kindest regards Stuart Thomas Chairman Pentyrch Community Council
I know she copied you into her email but I think it is only appropriate that you reply rather than I do.
Regards Stuart
-----Original Message----- From: Bethan Devonald [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 November 2020 16:29 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; offi[email protected] Subject: Proposed relocation of Pentyrch Surgery to Rhydlafar
Dear Councillor Stuart Thomas
My name is Bethan Devonald. I am a resident of Rhydlafar and a member of the Rhydlafar Residents Group.
I attach a letter to you and the Pentyrch Community Council, written on behalf of the Rhydlafar Residents Group, concerning the proposed relocation of the Pentyrch surgery to the small patch of green area at the entrance to the Rhydlafar estate.
I appreciate that Rhydlafar is situated in the St Fagans Community Council. However, the proposed relocation of the Pentyrch surgery to the Rhydlafar site is an issue that will have a significant impact on both Pentyrch and Rhydlafar residents, hence this letter to you.
I would be very grateful if you could confirm receipt of this email. We look forward to further dialogue with you.
Kind regards
Bethan Devonald
Letter to Stuart Untitled Thoma…cil.pdf attach…004.txt
From: Bryan Lewis [email protected] Subject: Re: Community Council Zoom Meeting re: Pentyrch Surgery - 6.30 pm Monday 16th November Date: 16 November 2020 at 15:18 To: Helena Fox [email protected], Sfcc [email protected] Cc: Terry Pallier [email protected]
Helena, any questions/issues you would like us to raise?
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Hi Helena
I am not sure if you are aware of this meeting but we would like to invite someone from your Council to attend a zoom meeting about the surgery on Monday. The developers and other medical representatives have confirmed their attendance along with 6 members of the public to date.
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Nothing has arisen. We will discuss it later tonight too! Transport for people to get to the new site is a big concern, but Tracey is aware of it.
Thanks for asking.
Helena On 16/11/2020 15:18 Bryan Lewis
Helena, any questions/issues you would like us to raise?
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Hi Helena
I am not sure if you are aware of this meeting but we would like to invite someone from your Council to attend a zoom meeting about the surgery on Monday. The developers and other medical representatives have confirmed their attendance along with 6 members of the public to date.
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I think the Llandaff surgery will submit something to us so that's something you could check with Tracey.
Helena On 13/10/2020 15:40 Deb Hunt
Hi Helena,
Are you happy to do an article or add it to your community bit regarding the news on the relocation of the surgery for the link.
:)
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The Practice Manager for Pentyrch Surgery is going to contact Barbara Rodd about finding a way to update the WI.
In the meantime, we are encouraging everyone to comment on the online consultation to get as much local feedback recorded as possible.
Many thanks,
Helena On 10/10/2020 11:00 Margaret Davies
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Subject: Surgery
Message: As the WI campaigned to get a doctor in the village, I think the village should campaign to keep the surgery in the village at least in some form. With people not being able to meet because of Covid maybe the Community Link could start it off.
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Ok ok. I will do another email.
Helena On 12/10/2020 12:44 Deb Hunt
Barbara Rodd isn't on WI committee now, i am though ! On 12/10/2020 09:42 Pentyrch ClerK
The Practice Manager for Pentyrch Surgery is going to contact Barbara Rodd about finding a way to update the WI.
In the meantime, we are encouraging everyone to comment on the online consultation to get as much local feedback recorded as possible.
Many thanks,
Helena On 10/10/2020 11:00 Margaret Davies
To: Webmaster
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Email: [email protected]
Subject: Surgery
Message: As the WI campaigned to get a doctor in the village, I think the village should campaign to keep the surgery in the village at least in some form. With people not being able to meet because of Covid maybe the Community Link could start it off.
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Barbara Rodd isn't on WI committee now, i am though ! On 12/10/2020 09:42 Pentyrch ClerK
The Practice Manager for Pentyrch Surgery is going to contact Barbara Rodd about finding a way to update the WI.
In the meantime, we are encouraging everyone to comment on the online consultation to get as much local feedback recorded as possible.
Many thanks,
Helena On 10/10/2020 11:00 Margaret Davies
To: Webmaster
Name: Margaret Davies
Email: [email protected]
Subject: Surgery
Message: As the WI campaigned to get a doctor in the village, I think the village should campaign to keep the surgery in the village at least in some form. With people not being able to meet because of Covid maybe the Community Link could start it off.
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! # " I've put the issue on the October agenda and will try to get an update. It is going to be controversial.
Helena On 10/10/2020 10:57 Deb Hunt
Obviously now official, a lot of anger and upset in the village as you can imagine :(
Pentyrch surgery is relocating. Share your views on the proposed plans by taking part in our short survey Head to http://assurapentyrch.com for more info.
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# " ! Transport is a big issue and it's something that's being looked into.
Helena On 12/10/2020 12:43 Deb Hunt
very, do you know if they discussed putting transport on for anyone struggling to get there ? On 12/10/2020 09:06 Helena Fox
I've put the issue on the October agenda and will try to get an update. It is going to be controversial.
Helena On 10/10/2020 10:57 Deb Hunt
Obviously now official, a lot of anger and upset in the village as you can imagine :(
Pentyrch surgery is relocating. Share your views on the proposed plans by taking part in our short survey Head to http://assurapentyrch.com for more info.
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Thanks for this - exactly the same time as our meeting. I know St Fagans CC have concerns/interest in the new site so it's good they are discussing it. One of their councillors came to our October meeting to hear the update from the surgery.
Helena On 10/11/2020 15:06 Deb Hunt
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We should encourage people to complete the online survey - that's the best way to get feedback to the surgery.
This isn't a question of whether the surgery should move or not - that's been decided as part of the LDP developments.
Helena
On 12/10/2020 13:38 Deb Hunt
can i share this ?
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Yes, I think that's the site.
Helena On 13/10/2020 10:51 Deb Hunt
ok, I spoke with Tracey office manager yesterday shes going to keep me in the loop, they are looking into a bus service. ive seen an email from Gavin to president WI and i asked him to put this out on fb so everyone will know people are trying to help etc. the location due to no means of getting there without a car is the main reason people are annoyed/upset, Am i right in thinking the location is Rhydlarfa by the nursery before you reach the llantrisant road ? there doesnt seem a lot of room there especially for parking ! On 13/10/2020 09:09 Helena Fox
Everyone is going to get a letter/text from the surgery so keep any eye out for it. I want to leave the official info to come from them so PCC doesn't get caught in the middle or, worse, gets something wrong!
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:41 Deb Hunt
will do , i'll let you know when i here more, I've already had a email from wi committee saying we have to do something about it !
Carol Saint has been in touch with Gavin, but not heard anything from him as yet.
lots of messages on fb as i said angry, upset
will keep you updated.
perhaps it might be an idea if you could write a small statement as to what we know to date and give the link for anyone to voice their concerns etc ? or who to contact etc. as i guess the next thing someone will say whats PCC doing about it.
On 12/10/2020 14:34 Helena Fox
Do call if you want to discuss this since it is going to be a kerfuffle and we want to make sure PCC is giving out the best/right advice.
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:31 Deb Hunt
ok thanks for the update On 12/10/2020 14:14 Helena Fox
We should encourage people to complete the online survey - that's the best way to get feedback to the surgery.
This isn't a question of whether the surgery should move or not - that's been decided as part of the LDP developments.
Helena
On 12/10/2020 13:38 Deb Hunt
can i share this ?
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From: Deb Hunt offi[email protected] Subject: Re: Fwd: Pentyrch surgery Date: 12 October 2020 at 14:41 To: Helena Fox [email protected]
will do , i'll let you know when i here more, I've already had a email from wi committee saying we have to do something about it !
Carol Saint has been in touch with Gavin, but not heard anything from him as yet.
lots of messages on fb as i said angry, upset
will keep you updated.
perhaps it might be an idea if you could write a small statement as to what we know to date and give the link for anyone to voice their concerns etc ? or who to contact etc. as i guess the next thing someone will say whats PCC doing about it.
On 12/10/2020 14:34 Helena Fox
Do call if you want to discuss this since it is going to be a kerfuffle and we want to make sure PCC is giving out the best/right advice.
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:31 Deb Hunt
ok thanks for the update On 12/10/2020 14:14 Helena Fox
We should encourage people to complete the online survey - that's the best way to get feedback to the surgery.
This isn't a question of whether the surgery should move or not - that's been decided as part of the LDP developments.
Helena
On 12/10/2020 13:38 Deb Hunt
can i share this ?
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ok, I spoke with Tracey office manager yesterday shes going to keep me in the loop, they are looking into a bus service. ive seen an email from Gavin to president WI and i asked him to put this out on fb so everyone will know people are trying to help etc. the location due to no means of getting there without a car is the main reason people are annoyed/upset, Am i right in thinking the location is Rhydlarfa by the nursery before you reach the llantrisant road ? there doesnt seem a lot of room there especially for parking ! On 13/10/2020 09:09 Helena Fox
Everyone is going to get a letter/text from the surgery so keep any eye out for it. I want to leave the official info to come from them so PCC doesn't get caught in the middle or, worse, gets something wrong!
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:41 Deb Hunt
will do , i'll let you know when i here more, I've already had a email from wi committee saying we have to do something about it !
Carol Saint has been in touch with Gavin, but not heard anything from him as yet.
lots of messages on fb as i said angry, upset
will keep you updated.
perhaps it might be an idea if you could write a small statement as to what we know to date and give the link for anyone to voice their concerns etc ? or who to contact etc. as i guess the next thing someone will say whats PCC doing about it.
On 12/10/2020 14:34 Helena Fox
Do call if you want to discuss this since it is going to be a kerfuffle and we want to make sure PCC is giving out the best/right advice.
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:31 Deb Hunt
ok thanks for the update On 12/10/2020 14:14 Helena Fox
We should encourage people to complete the online survey - that's the best way to get feedback to the surgery.
This isn't a question of whether the surgery should move or not - that's been decided as part of the LDP developments.
Helena
On 12/10/2020 13:38 Deb Hunt
can i share this ?
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ok thanks for the update On 12/10/2020 14:14 Helena Fox
We should encourage people to complete the online survey - that's the best way to get feedback to the surgery.
This isn't a question of whether the surgery should move or not - that's been decided as part of the LDP developments.
Helena
On 12/10/2020 13:38 Deb Hunt
can i share this ?
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Everyone is going to get a letter/text from the surgery so keep any eye out for it. I want to leave the official info to come from them so PCC doesn't get caught in the middle or, worse, gets something wrong!
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:41 Deb Hunt
will do , i'll let you know when i here more, I've already had a email from wi committee saying we have to do something about it !
Carol Saint has been in touch with Gavin, but not heard anything from him as yet.
lots of messages on fb as i said angry, upset
will keep you updated.
perhaps it might be an idea if you could write a small statement as to what we know to date and give the link for anyone to voice their concerns etc ? or who to contact etc. as i guess the next thing someone will say whats PCC doing about it.
On 12/10/2020 14:34 Helena Fox
Do call if you want to discuss this since it is going to be a kerfuffle and we want to make sure PCC is giving out the best/right advice.
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:31 Deb Hunt
ok thanks for the update On 12/10/2020 14:14 Helena Fox
We should encourage people to complete the online survey - that's the best way to get feedback to the surgery.
This isn't a question of whether the surgery should move or not - that's been decided as part of the LDP developments.
Helena
On 12/10/2020 13:38 Deb Hunt
can i share this ?
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Do call if you want to discuss this since it is going to be a kerfuffle and we want to make sure PCC is giving out the best/right advice.
Helena On 12/10/2020 14:31 Deb Hunt
ok thanks for the update On 12/10/2020 14:14 Helena Fox
We should encourage people to complete the online survey - that's the best way to get feedback to the surgery.
This isn't a question of whether the surgery should move or not - that's been decided as part of the LDP developments.
Helena
On 12/10/2020 13:38 Deb Hunt
can i share this ?
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From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: Re: Fwd: Surgery PNW Date: 2 December 2020 at 10:46 To: Deb Hunt offi[email protected]
We have to be careful with this issue. The decision to move the surgery has been made and while PCC wishes it hadn't happened and encouraged the finding of a new local site that hasn't happened.
PCC have discussed it with Tracey and I've written formally, as you know.
I don't want you to find yourself in the middle of local protests when we know that the decision isn't going to change. The pharmacy is both separate and connected. It's a private business and while local people might not want it to move and can make their own views known it's not something PCC can get involved with.
Thanks,
Helena On 02/12/2020 10:39 Deb Hunt
morning,
f.y.i.
SURGERY UPDATE - PNW NEEDS YOUR HELP- Interim results of our survey (closes midnight Saturday), show a 78% majority opposing the closure of Pentyrch Surgery. It's now also very likely we'll lose our Pharmacy as well. If we're to try and retain these long standing essential services volunteers are needed. If you can/want to help the campaign reply via F/book messenger (seen only by me) with your name and a contact number. Thanks
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Kind regards, Deb :)
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From: Helena Fox [email protected] Subject: Re: Fwd: Surgery Date: 14 October 2020 at 14:35 To: Deb Hunt offi[email protected]
A councillor from St Fagans might come to our October meeting on Monday since she is interested in hearing about the surgery update.
Rhydlafr comes under St Fagans Community Council - it's not in the PCC area.
There are 1500 houses on the Persimmon site and 650 or so just north of that in Creigiau - if they are all built.
The big number of 7,500 is not in the PCC area. Nothing in Plasdwr is in the PCC area. It is split between Radyr & Mortanstown CC and St Fagans CC - will almost all of it on the StFCC side of the Llantrisant Road. Plasdwr does include community facilities that includes a medical centre and this is separate from the Llandaff/Pentyrch Surgery site.
Hope that helps.
Helena
On 14/10/2020 12:52 Deb Hunt
f.y.i.
a few comments on the parc rhydlarfa fb page, not sure if St Fagans community council are involved ?
just as a matter of interest do you know the number houses that will come under Pentyrch parish is it 7,500 , does this start at rhydlara up to creigiau ?
Deb :)
I have found a copy of the wonderful technicolour plan of Plasdwr that was distributed at the drop in sessions. It clearly marks 2 areas noted 9 as being for 'Retail and community facilities' One to the south of Llantrissant road an one at the junction of Pentrebane and Crofft y Genau. Am I missing the point here? Isn't a doctors surgery a community facility?
The same plan does not show any Plasdwr activity on Rhydlafar. How do these changes get railroaded through.
Do we think our Community Council are involving th themselves in this?
I went to some Plas Dwr meetings and it was my understanding that Plas Dwr would have its own doctors surgery once a certain number of houses had been built. It makes no sense at all to provide a surgery for the whole of Plas Dwr on our little patch of Rhydlafar green grass.
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From: [email protected] Subject: Re: Meeting with residents of Rhydlafar about the proposed surgery Date: 25 November 2020 at 09:40 To: [email protected]
I'm working then (training councillors) but will ask PCC members to contact you direct since I'm sort of on leave this week.
Many thanks,
Helena On 24/11/2020 20:07 [email protected]
Hi Helena
At 6.30 pm on Thursday we are having an "informal zoom meeting" with members of Rhydlafar Residents Group. There will be 4 of our members in attendance and the objective of the meeting is to confirm their views about the proposals and what they would like to see the community council do.
We would be pleased to welcome a member of Pentyrch community council and/or yourself.
Please will you let me know if anyone would like to attend and I will forward on the zoom code.
Regards
Andy Gowman
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
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From: [email protected] Subject: RE: Meeting with residents of Rhydlafar about the proposed surgery Date: 25 November 2020 at 12:47 To: ST Council [email protected] Cc: Mike Sherwood [email protected], Pentyrch ClerK [email protected]
Hi Stuart
Zoom meeting.
Topic: Pentyrch Surgery Meeting Time: Nov 26, 2020 06:30 PM London
Join Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85013389632?pwd=cWFCTDR5N1QrN3NPZkpsNmJ1YkJFdz09
Meeting ID: 850 1338 9632 Passcode: 736258
Regards
Andy Gowman
------Original Message ------From: "ST Council"
Hi Andy In accordance with Helena’s email below please send on the zoom link for this meeting Regards Stuart Thomas
From: Pentyrch ClerK [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 November 2020 09:42 To: Stuart Thomas
Please see the invitation below. I can't be there since I'm training councillors for OVW on Thursday evening. I've said you will reply to Andy direct. The RRG is very opposed to the new surgery site.
Thanks,
Helena ------Original Message ------From: "[email protected]"
Hi Helena
At 6.30 pm on Thursday we are having an "informal zoom meeting" with members of Rhydlafar Residents Group. There will be 4 of our members in attendance and the objective of the meeting is to confirm their views about the proposals and what they would like to see the community council do.
We would be pleased to welcome a member of Pentyrch community council and/or yourself.
Please will you let me know if anyone would like to attend and I will forward on the zoom code.
Regards
Andy Gowman Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
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Home - 01446 760091 Mobile - 07940590076 From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: RE: Meeting with residents of Rhydlafar about the proposed surgery Date: 2 December 2020 at 14:38 To: [email protected]
I hear this meeting was rather challenging. Could you give me a call on 07855566538 if you were there? Or let me know when I can call.
Thanks,
Helena On 25/11/2020 12:47 [email protected]
Hi Stuart
Zoom meeting.
Topic: Pentyrch Surgery Meeting
Time: Nov 26, 2020 06:30 PM London
Join Zoom Meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85013389632?pwd=cWFCTDR5N1QrN3NPZkpsNmJ1YkJFdz09
Meeting ID: 850 1338 9632
Passcode: 736258
Regards
Andy Gowman
------Original Message ------From: "ST Council"
Hi Andy
In accordance with Helena’s email below please send on the zoom link for this meeting
Regards
Stuart Thomas
From: Pentyrch ClerK [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 November 2020 09:42 To: Stuart Thomas
Please see the invitation below. I can't be there since I'm training councillors for OVW on Thursday evening. I've said you will reply to Andy direct. The RRG is very opposed to the new surgery site.
Thanks,
Helena
------Original Message ------
From: "[email protected]"
To: "'[email protected]'"
Date: 24/11/2020 20:07
Subject: Meeting with residents of Rhydlafar about the proposed surgery
Hi Helena
At 6.30 pm on Thursday we are having an "informal zoom meeting" with members of Rhydlafar Residents Group. There will be 4 of our members in attendance and the objective of the meeting is to confirm their views about the proposals and what they would like to see the community council do.
We would be pleased to welcome a member of Pentyrch community council and/or yourself.
Please will you let me know if anyone would like to attend and I will forward on the zoom code.
Regards
Andy Gowman
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
Home - 01446 760091 Mobile - 07940590076
Helena Fox
Clerk to Pentyrch Community Council
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Hi Andy In accordance with Helena’s email below please send on the zoom link for this meeting Regards Stuart Thomas
From: Pentyrch ClerK [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 25 November 2020 09:42 To: Stuart Thomas
Please see the invitation below. I can't be there since I'm training councillors for OVW on Thursday evening. I've said you will reply to Andy direct. The RRG is very opposed to the new surgery site.
Thanks,
Helena ------Original Message ------From: "[email protected]"
Hi Helena
At 6.30 pm on Thursday we are having an "informal zoom meeting" with members of Rhydlafar Residents Group. There will be 4 of our members in attendance and the objective of the meeting is to confirm their views about the proposals and what they would like to see the community council do.
We would be pleased to welcome a member of Pentyrch community council and/or yourself.
Please will you let me know if anyone would like to attend and I will forward on the zoom code.
Regards
Andy Gowman
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
Clerk to St Fagans Community Council
Home - 01446 760091 Mobile - 07940590076
Helena Fox
Clerk to Pentyrch Community Council
Tel: 02920 891417
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Hi Helena I have suggested some minor adjustment to your opening paragraph in red. Also there is something wrong with the letter heading. The one used on the monthly papers is better in that the heading itself is showing in a drop shadow box and so looks strange Regards Stuart
From: Pentyrch Clerk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 November 2020 15:11 To: Stuart Thomas
For comment. Since this is going to be published in the Link I wanted to be sure you were happy with it.
Thanks,
Helena
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PCC to Llandaff Surger…2.docx
From: Mike Sherwood [email protected] Subject: Re: PCC letter to Llandaff & Pentyrch Surgeries Date: 19 November 2020 at 08:32 To: Pentyrch Clerk [email protected], Stuart Thomas [email protected]
Very balanced. On 18/11/2020 15:10 Pentyrch Clerk
For comment. Since this is going to be published in the Link I wanted to be sure you were happy with it.
Thanks,
Helena
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Thanks - added to list.
Helena On 16/11/2020 14:54 Karen Thomas ([email protected])
Hi Helena
My concerns are:
This is another example of the needs of the residents of Pentyrch being ignored - at this rate the village will soon become merely a dormitory village with no public facilities.....and residents will have no choice other than to travel by car to access all public services along an inadequate road system which is hopelessly overloaded.
Specifically, there is currently no public transport to the proposed new site. Further, it is not possible to get to any other doctor's surgery by single journey public transport from Pentyrch - only by changing bus and walking - very difficult for the elderly, infirm or the unwell. Therefore easy, regular and timely public transport to the new site is essential.
The Pharmacy in Pentyrch is also an essential service and would be a big loss from the village. It is also used by residents of Gwaelod. See comments on public transport above.
New public transport provision from Pentyrch to the Surgery should also include links to enhanced transport facilities on the Llantrisant Road Strategic Development Sites C, D & E.
As well as public transport, cycling should be encouraged and improved facilities and safe routes for cyclists are required.
The proposed site at Rhydlafar is on a busy road junction. On site car parking needs to be sufficient to ensure that there is no on road parking, otherwise highway safety will be compromised for all users and congestion difficulties will be exacerbated.
K
On 16/11/2020 12:04 Pentyrch Clerk
Attached is what I have so far.
It is correct that this project has been approved and is going to happen. There has been a long process of selecting a site and contractor (if that's the correct term). That is now done. I imagine we will see the details of the building application in due course - but don't know that for sure.
You can respond to the online consultation in your own names, just not using your title of Cllr.
Thanks,
Helena
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Hi Helena
My concerns are:
This is another example of the needs of the residents of Pentyrch being ignored - at this rate the village will soon become merely a dormitory village with no public facilities.....and residents will have no choice other than to travel by car to access all public services along an inadequate road system which is hopelessly overloaded.
Specifically, there is currently no public transport to the proposed new site. Further, it is not possible to get to any other doctor's surgery by single journey public transport from Pentyrch - only by changing bus and walking - very difficult for the elderly, infirm or the unwell. Therefore easy, regular and timely public transport to the new site is essential.
The Pharmacy in Pentyrch is also an essential service and would be a big loss from the village. It is also used by residents of Gwaelod. See comments on public transport above.
New public transport provision from Pentyrch to the Surgery should also include links to enhanced transport facilities on the Llantrisant Road Strategic Development Sites C, D & E.
As well as public transport, cycling should be encouraged and improved facilities and safe routes for cyclists are required.
The proposed site at Rhydlafar is on a busy road junction. On site car parking needs to be sufficient to ensure that there is no on road parking, otherwise highway safety will be compromised for all users and congestion difficulties will be exacerbated.
K
On 16/11/2020 12:04 Pentyrch Clerk
Attached is what I have so far.
It is correct that this project has been approved and is going to happen. There has been a long process of selecting a site and contractor (if that's the correct term). That is now done. I imagine we will see the details of the building application in due course - but don't know that for sure.
You can respond to the online consultation in your own names, just not using your title of Cllr.
Thanks,
Helena
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From: Deb Hunt offi[email protected] Subject: Re: PDF from Pentyrch surgery Date: 9 November 2020 at 14:28 To: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected]
Hi Helena,
got this and its in all our noticeboards :) On 09/11/2020 13:34 Pentyrch ClerK
Here it is.
Helena
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Kind regards, Deb :)
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Yes - which is great. Stuart wanted a pdf for the Link
H On 09/11/2020 14:28 Deb Hunt
Hi Helena,
got this and its in all our noticeboards :) On 09/11/2020 13:34 Pentyrch ClerK
Here it is.
Helena
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Kind regards, Deb :)
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From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: RE: Pentyrch Surgery : update. CONFIDENTIAL Date: 28 September 2020 at 09:26 To: John Harrison [email protected] Cc: Stuart Thomas [email protected]
I'm just being cautious because I forgot to ask Tracey what was and wasn't confidential.
Helena On 24/09/2020 16:38 John Harrison
Hi Helena
Why is information such as this confidential when it is a done deal ad been so for some time and affects 1000s of residents ? .
Regards
JH
From: Pentyrch ClerK
I've just heard from the Practice Manager and here's an update: I'm not sure what is and isn't confidential so please consider all this to be confidential for now.
The site for the new surgery has been chosen at Rhydlafar and issues are still being discussed with Cardiff. Six weeks of public engagement consultation will start in the first week of October It will be all digital and there will be a questionnaire for the public on issues like which services they would like at the centre and transport will definitely be raised All patients will receive a text about this There will be a press release which I'll get a copy of in due course all households will get a letter about this too
We discussed having a piece in the Link - next deadline is November so too late for this - but there can be an update.
I offered to put any info online/Facebook, etc.
Thanks,
Helena
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Any time before 10am - then I have a meeting. And any time after 12:30.
Many thanks,
Helena On 12/10/2020 09:06 Tracey Enright (Llandaff - Llandaff Surgery)
Moring Helena,
Yes of course, what time is convenient for me to give you a call?
Tracey
From: Pentyrch ClerK
Can we have a chat on the phone about the plans to move Pentyrch Surgery?
Many thanks,
Helena
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I have tried ringing but no answer, do you want to try and give me a ring on 20573975
Thanks
From: Pentyrch ClerK
Any time before 10am - then I have a meeting. And any time after 12:30.
Many thanks,
Helena On 12/10/2020 09:06 Tracey Enright (Llandaff - Llandaff Surgery)
Moring Helena,
Yes of course, what time is convenient for me to give you a call?
Tracey From: Pentyrch ClerK
Can we have a chat on the phone about the plans to move Pentyrch Surgery?
Many thanks,
Helena
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Already done.
Helena On 20/10/2020 13:14 Stuart Thomas
Hi Helena
Following on from last nights meeting and particularly Karen’s comment would you include the topic of a PCC Response to the Pentyrch Surgery Consultation at the earliest place on the November agenda even before the County Councillor reports so that if they turn up they too can have an input. Would you also let all members know of this when you send out the minutes from last evening so members will know of the opportunity to make any points they wish on what is likely to be such a very important discussion.
Thanks
Stuart
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Morning Helena,
We are having a transport meeting next week so will report back to you. I will ask Assura to link in with you regarding a meeting. Thanks
Tracey
From: Pentyrch Clerk
Please find attached a formal letter about the move of the surgery. We are getting a few concerned residents contacting us and we will publish this letter in the next Community Link - which won't be until February.
When we met online you mentioned the possibility of PCC attending a meeting with Assura and the Health Board. Is that still a possibility?
Hope all is going well and don't hesitate to let us know if we can help.
Many thanks,
Helena
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Many thanks - I'm sort of on leave next week so call me if there's anything important since I will be trying not to look at emails.
Helena
07855566538
On 19/11/2020 09:39 Tracey Enright (Llandaff - Llandaff Surgery)
Morning Helena,
We are having a transport meeting next week so will report back to you. I will ask Assura to link in with you regarding a meeting. Thanks
Tracey
From: Pentyrch Clerk
Please find attached a formal letter about the move of the surgery. We are getting a few concerned residents contacting us and we will publish this letter in the next Community Link - which won't be until February.
When we met online you mentioned the possibility of PCC attending a meeting with Assura and the Health Board. Is that still a possibility?
Hope all is going well and don't hesitate to let us know if we can help.
Many thanks,
Helena
Helena Fox
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Comment from me.
The move to a purpose built health centre was clear to us already so this is not a surprise. A modern, purpose built 21st century facility has to be an improvement over a porta-cabin. The question of Pentyrch Pharmacy is not a matter for PCC in my view. The pharmacy is not a state run service it is a private business and can decide to trade from wherever it likes.
On 20/10/2020 15:08 Pentyrch ClerK
As discussed last night, this will be on the agenda for the November 16 meeting. If you have comments you wish to make/contribute to a PCC response please send them to me and I will compile them for the meeting so that you have a picture of Members' views.
Thanks,
Helena
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Best Regards
Mike Sherwood
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Thanks - first comment and I'm building a table of them.
Helena On 21/10/2020 08:28 Sherwood, Mike
Comment from me.
The move to a purpose built health centre was clear to us already so this is not a surprise. A modern, purpose built 21st century facility has to be an improvement over a porta-cabin. The question of Pentyrch Pharmacy is not a matter for PCC in my view. The pharmacy is not a state run service it is a private business and can decide to trade from wherever it likes.
On 20/10/2020 15:08 Pentyrch ClerK
As discussed last night, this will be on the agenda for the November 16 meeting. If you have comments you wish to make/contribute to a PCC response please send them to me and I will compile them for the meeting so that you have a picture of Members' views.
Thanks,
Helena
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Best Regards
Mike Sherwood
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Thank you Helena,
Enjoy your leave, hope you get some dry weather so you can get out and about. I am going to try and set up a pro Pentyrch moving group, need some support from patients. I know the community council must stand on the fence, but if you can think of anyone who can help , please let me know.
Kind regards
Tracey x
From: Pentyrch Clerk
Many thanks - I'm sort of on leave next week so call me if there's anything important since I will be trying not to look at emails.
Helena
07855566538
On 19/11/2020 09:39 Tracey Enright (Llandaff - Llandaff Surgery)
Morning Helena,
We are having a transport meeting next week so will report back to you. I will ask Assura to link in with you regarding a meeting. Thanks
Tracey
From: Pentyrch Clerk
Please find attached a formal letter about the move of the surgery. We are getting a few concerned residents contacting us and we will publish this letter in the next Community Link - which won't be until February.
When we met online you mentioned the possibility of PCC attending a meeting with Assura and the Health Board. Is that still a possibility?
Hope all is going well and don't hesitate to let us know if we can help.
Many thanks,
Helena
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Moring Helena,
Yes of course, what time is convenient for me to give you a call?
Tracey From: Pentyrch ClerK
Can we have a chat on the phone about the plans to move Pentyrch Surgery?
Many thanks,
Helena
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I have put the comments below into a Word document and depending on what else I find in my emails or comes in today I will send it to you before tonight's meeting.
Thanks,
Helena On 14/11/2020 13:42 John Harrison
Good afternoon Helena.
I have believed , for a long time , that the Surgery proposals have been a done deal .
The proposals take away the Surgery and Pharmacy from Pentyrch Village , facilities that were fought hard for over a number of years by residents. It is plain to see that the new proposals are to mainly cater for the huge development along Llantrisant Road and beyond .
There is talk that there is only a certain amount of money available and I understand that , however , if CCC had been on the ball and had the real interest of residents at heart at the initial stages and listened to concerns much more finance could have come from the Developers who must have thought it was Christmas all over again and I can’t for the life of me understand why this was not vigorously pursued ! . However, we have what we have and we will need to ensure we secure the best we can.
I feel we need early access to the planned layout , facilities , access and available parking to be provided instead of the normal drip feeding process that is underway at the moment .
Work on Church Road is welcome as this has been a source of concern for a long time as more and more people , vehicles , cycles , pedestrians and horses use the road and it becomes a Rat Run for many (and this will surely greatly increase in time to come). I have received some comments in relation to the quality and standard of surface work underway , especially at the edges which appears to have the potential for early erosion. Signage on this road also gives some concern .
Access to the new facility is also of concern and I know that some discussions are underway to provide a bus service similar to that provided for GYG and although recent official comments say it is working well I would rather believe the comments of others and those that use the service.
Pentyrch has always been poorly served in relation to Public Transport and it appears that this will continue . CCC want to ease the public into using more Public Transport and I am sure they would if proper infrastructure was in place , but whilst we have what we have there is no chance of the required shift to take place .
I often feel that Pentyrch and Creigiau are the forgotten Cousins in the CCC family .
Regards JH
From: Ian Jones
Thank you Simon, it is a concern,. Glad it's on the agenda so we can all discuss an appropriate response.
On 12/10/2020 08:58 Simon Roberts ([email protected])
Thanks for highlighting the surgery issue Ian. I believe the new surgery location came up in a planning meeting a while back and I expressed concerns about medical care for the village . As a Community Council we should respond to the village concerns and discuss this at the October meeting . The minutes will then reflect the concerns of the various councillors who participate and the community can see that we are responding to this situation .
On the subject of Social media it is a double edged sword and it is always best to check with the clerk and chair before commenting on certain issues ...
Regards,
Simon
On 11/10/2020 18:53 Ian Jones
Good evening all,
Some of you may be aware of Cardiff and Vale Health Board's plans to relocate Pentyrch Surgery to a site on Rhydlafar drive. There has been some talk on the Pentyrch community group on Facebook over the weekend in relation to this.
I've added a link below to the consultation website.
I have some issues with the website and the way this is being presented and can understand the views of the majority of people commenting on the proposal. I understand this is a planning matter but the way it is being presented is as though it is a done deal and the plans have already been approved, I feel this is misleading and wonder whether this is something that we as a council can comment on outside of the planning committee as it doesn't appear to have reached the application stage yet? I expect there to be a lot of communication over the coming days/weeks from residents, who it would appear are not very supportive of these plans and feel some reassurance that this is still in the early pre application consultation phase would help alleviate some of their concerns and allow them to direct their comments to the correct place.
I have not commented on the Facebook posts myself as I'm unsure if this is wise or indeed allowed and thought it best to seek guidance first.
Thanks
Ian
http://assurapentyrch.com/
Helena Fox
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Thanks for highlighting the surgery issue Ian. I believe the new surgery location came up in a planning meeting a while back and I expressed concerns about medical care for the village . As a Community Council we should respond to the village concerns and discuss this at the October meeting . The minutes will then reflect the concerns of the various councillors who participate and the community can see that we are responding to this situation . On the subject of Social media it is a double edged sword and it is always best to check with the clerk and chair before commenting on certain issues ... Regards, Simon On 11/10/2020 18:53 Ian Jones
Good evening all,
Some of you may be aware of Cardiff and Vale Health Board's plans to relocate Pentyrch Surgery to a site on Rhydlafar drive. There has been some talk on the Pentyrch community group on Facebook over the weekend in relation to this.
I've added a link below to the consultation website.
I have some issues with the website and the way this is being presented and can understand the views of the majority of people commenting on the proposal. I understand this is a planning matter but the way it is being presented is as though it is a done deal and the plans have already been approved, I feel this is misleading and wonder whether this is something that we as a council can comment on outside of the planning committee as it doesn't appear to have reached the application stage yet? I expect there to be a lot of communication over the coming days/weeks from residents, who it would appear are not very supportive of these plans and feel some reassurance that this is still in the early pre application consultation phase would help alleviate some of their concerns and allow them to direct their comments to the correct place. I have not commented on the Facebook posts myself as I'm unsure if this is wise or indeed allowed and thought it best to seek guidance first.
Thanks Ian
http://assurapentyrch.com/ From: Deb Hunt [email protected] Subject: Re: Surgery Relocation Date: 30 November 2020 at 15:45
To: [email protected] ! Thanks for this , will share
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On Monday, 30 November 2020, Pentyrch ClerK
This is the letter I sent the other day and will go in the next Link - albeit that's a while off. It can go on Facebook if that's possible.
Helena On 23/11/2020 07:52 Deb Hunt
Are we doing to support our residents , what is the opinion of PCC please ?
FYI
PENTRYCH NEIGHBOURHOOD WATCH - IMPORTANT - PROPOSED MOVE OF PENTYRCH SURGERY. The proposal to move our surgery away from Pentyrch impacts on all who use or who are thinking of using the surgery. Currently appointments are usually readily available, the service is on our doorstep and those with mobility problems have ample parking. The proposal is an unknown in terms of appointments given an expected much larger number of patients. There may also be parking issues once spaces for staff are taken into account resulting in on road parking on the blind bend just past the Rhydlafer roundabout. Non drivers especially those with children will need to rely on others for transport there and back. There are also concerns over increased volume of vehicles on Church Road which is currently undergoing long awaited improvements but not in regard to increased traffic. Please respond urgently to the survey below produced to gather the views of Pentyrch residents
Ryhdlafer has a what’s app group and they are asking for us in Pentyrch to join them in opposing this, they have asked for you to help with this if possible please.
Such an idiotic idea for the non drivers of pentyrch but it’s moving maybe to link the new houses up with a surgery! Nuts!!!!
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From: Pentyrch ClerK [email protected] Subject: Re: Surgery Relocation Date: 30 November 2020 at 13:47 To: Deb Hunt [email protected]
This is the letter I sent the other day and will go in the next Link - albeit that's a while off. It can go on Facebook if that's possible.
Helena On 23/11/2020 07:52 Deb Hunt
Are we doing to support our residents , what is the opinion of PCC please ?
FYI
PENTRYCH NEIGHBOURHOOD WATCH - IMPORTANT - PROPOSED MOVE OF PENTYRCH SURGERY. The proposal to move our surgery away from Pentyrch impacts on all who use or who are thinking of using the surgery. Currently appointments are usually readily available, the service is on our doorstep and those with mobility problems have ample parking. The proposal is an unknown in terms of appointments given an expected much larger number of patients. There may also be parking issues once spaces for staff are taken into account resulting in on road parking on the blind bend just past the Rhydlafer roundabout. Non drivers especially those with children will need to rely on others for transport there and back. There are also concerns over increased volume of vehicles on Church Road which is currently undergoing long awaited improvements but not in regard to increased traffic. Please respond urgently to the survey below produced to gather the views of Pentyrch residents
Ryhdlafer has a what’s app group and they are asking for us in Pentyrch to join them in opposing this, they have asked for you to help with this if possible please.
Such an idiotic idea for the non drivers of pentyrch but it’s moving maybe to link the new houses up with a surgery! Nuts!!!!
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From: Deb Hunt offi[email protected] Subject: Surgery relocation - a few comments Date: 2 December 2020 at 10:35 To: Tracey Enright [email protected]
Hi Tracey,
a few more comments, residents are now concerned about the pharmacy going, what's the latest news. Can you say if this is all definitely happening ?
Disgraceful we are losing so many of our vital services here in Pentyrch .
Where is the evidence for losing the pharmacy? When we (WI) had a meeting with the practice managers, we were told this would not happen. Also what proportion of the 78% are Pentyrch residents who are registered with the surgery?
if you ask Qui, he will, I'm sure clarify this.
And the pharmacy ?
So not only might we be losing our surgery, if we lose the pharmacy all patients will have to go to the new surgery to collect repeat medication ???
best wishes, Deb :)
Deborah Hunt, Community Engagement Officer Pentyrch Community Council
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From: Deb Hunt offi[email protected] Subject: Fwd: RE: Surgery Date: 13 October 2020 at 12:40 To: Helena Fox [email protected]
f.y.i.
Hi Tracey,
that's great ok thanks. I can share the info to all local fb pages.
Yes happy to work with you. Fred is my brother in law and yes hes a taxi driver, he enjoys helping with deliveries.
Would be great if you could get funding, good luck.
Deb :)
On 13/10/2020 11:08 Tracey Enright (Llandaff - Llandaff Surgery)
Morning Deb,
I will add something to face book today. Letters and texts are being sent today to all patients.
We are setting up a work group to look at transport options (if you’re still willing to work with me) I understand Fred is a relative of yours who does the delivery service and is also a taxi driver. I’m thinking of trying to locate some funding, I have accessed community chest funding in the past and was thinking we could run some sort of service alongside the delivery service. We could make it dementia friendly and then we could fund raise to keep it ongoing. We have to remember these are very small numbers, , I’d say no more than 4 a week
From: Deb Hunt
Morning Tracey,
f.y.i.
just a few comments on fb this morning:
Why is there no consultation with the patients of the Pentyrch Surgery for their views on the relocation to a site outside of the village with no transport links. Not everyone has access to the internet so would not see what you are proposing to do. Letters should be sent out to all patients to enable them to respond. There are concerns within the village about how the new proposed location will effect residents, particularly the elderly, as it is approx. 1.5 miles from Pentyrch without safe pedestrian routes or public transport. Considering the elderly population is there an alternative means of soliciting the views of patients who are unable to access this link?
But you are closing the surgery in Pentyrch village and relocating it to Rhydlafar with no prior consultation!
best wishes,
Deb
:)
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