Second Series1R.8 Wednesday, February 17, 1960 Magha 28, 1881 (Saka)
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COLUMNS
No. 1.-Monday, February 8, 1960/Maglui 19, 1881 (Saia) Mcmber swom President's Address laid on the Table 1-31 Parliamentary Committees-Summary of Work 31 Dowry Prohibition Bill- Laid on the Table as returned by Rajya Sabha with amendments 32 President's Assent to Bills 32-33 Obituary Reference . 33 Papers laid on the Table 33-36 Reports of Joint Committees on: (r) Delhi Land Holdings (Ceiling) Bill 37 (2) Tripura Land Revenue and Land Reforms Bill 37 (3) Manipur Land Revenue and Land Reforms Bill 37-38 Companies (Amendment) Bill- Extension of time for presentation of Repon of Joint Committee Daily Digest
No. 2.-Tuesday, February 9, 1960/Ma,lui 20, 1881 (Salra) Oral Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. I to 19 43-81 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 20 to 31 81-87 Unstarred Questions Nos. 1 to 23 87-100 Re: Motion for Adjournment 100-01, 102--07 Papers laid on the Table 102, 107-10 Question of Privilege Publication of expunged proceedings of Lok Sabha by Free Pre88 Journal, Bombay 11�11 Statement re: lndo-West Pakistan Border Conference Ill-13 Statement re: Inda-Pakistan Financial Talks [[3-14 R.: Motions for Adjournment [[4-16 Geneva Conventions Bill Motion to consider n6--78 Clauses 2 to 20 and I 178-79 Motion to pass, as amended 179 Displaced Person, (Compensation and Rehabilitation) Second Amendment Bill Motion to consider J80-22I Business Advisory Committee Forty-seventh Report 222 Daily Digest 223-28 Ii
CoLUMNS ~ •• 3.-Wedn.lday, Ptbruary 10, 1960IMagIuJ 21, 1881 (Sakar Oral Answers to Questions- Starred Question Nos. 32 to 44 Written Answers to Qucstions- Starred Questions Nos. 45 to 64 269--81 Unstarred Questions Nos. 24 to 53 281-30 3 R.: Point of Order - 30 3--05 Papers laid on th. Table ~ Committee on Private Memben' Bills and Resolutions- Fifty-fifth Report -, 309 Correction of Reply to Starred Question No. 923 30 9-10 Termination of Suspension Ilf Member ~ Statement re: Two air accidents 332-33 Statement re: Accident to Oil Well at Cambay 333-35 Business Advisory Committce- Forty-Seventh Report...... 335-37 Displaced'l>enons (Compen.. tion and Rehabilitation) Second Amendment BiII- Motion to consider 337-415 Clauses:2 to 12 and J 415-'3 Motion to pass 433 Administration of Evacuee Property BiII- Motion to consider 433-54 Half-an-Hour Discussion .. : Convenion of Super-Constellations as Pa.senger- Cargo Planes ...... 454-64 Daily Digest 465-72 Nil. 4.-ThtWsday, Febn,ary 11, 1960IMagha 22,1881 (SaAa)- Oral An.wcra to Questions- Starred Questions No•. 65 10 69, 71 to 75, 78, 80 and 8J 473-508 Written Answers to Questionf- Starred Que8lions Nos. 70, 76, 77, 79 and 82 to 89 5e8-15 Unstarred Question. Nos. 54 to 77 and 79 to 8J 515-29 Correction of Reply to Unstarred Question No. 149 529 Papen laid on the Table 529--32 M ....ge. from Rajya Sallha 533 Bills passed by Rajya S.bha-Laid on the Table- 1. Impons and Exports (Control) Amendment Bill 533 2. Cotton Transpon (Amendment) Bill . 533 <;ailing Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Imponanc...... Strike by pilots of Indian International Corporation 533-36 Relignation of Member 536 Panel of, Chairmen 536-37 Administration of Evacuee Propeny (Amendment) BiII- Motion to consider 537-83 Claus.. 2 to 6, 8 and 9, 7 and 1 583-88 Motion to pass, as amended 588 Dowry Prohibition BiII-· Motion to consider Rajya Sablia amendments 588-608 Motion,.: Report of Pay Commiasion . 608--56 ~ 657-62 CoLUMNS No. 5.-Friday, February 12, 196o/Magha '3, 1881 (Saluz)- Oral Answers to Questions- ~ Nos. go to 103 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 104 to 119 699-707 Unstarred Questions Nos. 8. to 108 . 707-31 Papers laid on the Table 7'1-'4 Business of the House 7'4 Legal Practitioners Bill- Extension of time for presentation of Report of Joint Committee 724-3 5 Motion re: Report of Pay Commi ••ion 7'S-86 Committee on Private Members Bills and Rcsolutions- Fifty-fifth Report 0 786 Resolution r.: Compulsory Military Training in EducationallDstitutions 78&0-8,. Resolution re: Quitting the Commonwealth . 0 Bsa-56 Daily Dige81 ~ No. 6.-Monday, February IS, 1960/MtlIfha .6,1881 (SaIIa)- Oral Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. uo to 124, 126 to 130, 133 and 134. Written Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 1'5, 131, '3' and 135 to 146 Unstarred Questions Nos. 109 to 160 Motions for Ad;ournment- I. Law and Order situation in KeraJa 944-56 •. Alleged starvation deaths in Mizo Hills district 956--61 Papers laid on the Table ~ Message from Rajya Sabha 96• Demands for Supplementary Grants Budget (General) 19'9-60 963 Demands for Supplementary Grants Budget (Railways) 1959-60 . 963 Statement rl: Explosion in Ordnance Factory, Khamaria 963-5 Correction of reply to Starred Question No. 671 . 966 Statement ,.: Indo-Pakistan Canal Water Dispute 967 Plantations Labour (Amendment) Bill-oIntroduced 967-68 Motion T,: Report of Pay Commission 96S-9B Motion on Addre.s by the President 998-1102 Daily Digest lIo3--oB NO.7.-Tuesday, F,bruary 16, 1960 IMagha '7. IB81 (SaIuz)- Oral Answers to Que.tions- Starred Que.tions Nos. 147 to 154. 160 and ,63°to 166 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Questions NOlI. ISS to 159. 161. ,6. and ,67 to '75 Unstarred Questions Nos. 161 to r87
Motion for Adjoummenl- Alleged reversal of policy lowards China 1166-74 PIpers laid on the TobIe 1174 '7S iv CoLUMNS Motion on Address by the President 1175-1298 DailyDigest 1299-1302 No. 8.-Wedne.rday, February 17, 196o/Magha 28, 1881 (Saka)- Oral Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 176 to 187 Shon Notice Question No. 1 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 188-210 1346-61 Unstarred Questions Nos. 188 to 237 and 239 to 242 1361-96 Correction of Reply to Unstarred Question No. 218 1396-97 Motions forAdjournment- Apprehended fear of radio-active fall-out over India fr om French atomic explosion in Sahara 1397-1403 Papen laid on the Table Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Bill Report of Joint Committee laid on the Table Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance- Sudden flooding of colliery at Damua ,404-05 Correction of answer to Starred Question No. 617 1405-06 Rsilway Budget, 196o-61-Prcscnted 1406--41 Motion on Address by the President 1441-,538 Daily Digest 1539-44 No. 9.-Thursday,February 18, 196o/Magha 29, J881 (Saka)·- Oral Answers to Questions- Starred Qucsti· ·.1s Nos. 211 to 215, 217 to 219, 221, 222, 224 to 227 and 230 . 1545-83 Written Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 216,220,223,228,229 and 231 to 237 Unstarred Questions Nos. 243 to 281 1590-16(1 Papen laid on the Table 1611 MeBSages from Rajya Sabha 1611-13 Motion on Address by the President 1614-1753 Half-an-hour discussion re: Suicide Committed by Dr. Joseph of IARI 1753--68 Daily Digest 1769-72 No. to.-Friday,February 19,196o/Magha 30, 1881 (Saka) Oral Answers to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 238 to 240, 242 to 246, 248 to 250, 252 and 256 to 262 1773--1812 Written Answen to Questions- Starred Questions Nos. 241, 247, 251, 253 to 255 and 263 to 266 1812-18 Unstarred Questions Nos. 282 to 308 1818-·33 Motions for Adjournment- I. Reported defect in the chilling plant at Muradnagar 1833-38 2. Labour Trouble in Bhilai Steel Plant 183S--44 Papen laid on the Table 1844-46 1 6 Message from Rsjya Sabha � - LOK SABHA DEBATES
1304 LOK SABRA ritory which are under Chinese oc- cupation? Wednesdall, FebTlLa1'l/ 17, 1960/ Mallhn 28, 1881 (Sakal Mr. Speaker: Through any other agency? Shrl Va,jpayee:s. J he Lok SlIbhll met lit Eleven of the Clock Shrlmati Lakshml Menon: The hon. Member is suggestin that we ma), [MR. SPEAKER in the ChlJiT) have some kind of e.pionage system by which We can know about these oRiu. ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS things. Mr_Speaker: No, no. What be ~" •• action of S1J: Roads b), Cbinese In Ladakh means is that, as in the .ase of Goa where we are having a representative t+- of some other Government to look into on6. f Shrl Vajpa),ee: those things, it is possible to have ) Shri A, M, Tariq: any other Government look into this matter. It need not necessarily be Will the Prime M1nl8ter be pleas- under an espionage system. ed to state: ShrimaU Lakshml Menon: That i. (a) whether Government's atten- suggestion for action. tion has been drawn to a news re- port, datelined Bombay, cointaincd Mr. Speaker: He is asking why it in the Manchester Guardian of ~ has not been done. 26th December, 1959 stating that sub- Shrlmatl Lakshml Menon: It can be sequent to the construction of the done only if we do not have diploma- Sinkiang Road in Ladakh, six more tic relations with China. When we roads have been built by the Chinese have diplomatic relations with another on Indian soil; and country, We do not ask a third agency (b) if so, the facts in regard there- to deal for us. to? Shrl Va,jpa)'ee: May I know if our The Depllty Mlnl8ter of Esternal Ambassador in Peking has been direct- Affairs (Shrimati Lakshml Menon): ed to ascertain from the Chinese (a) Yes. Government regarding the authenti- city of the report appearing in the (b) As the roads reportedly built paper? by Chinese are in the Indian territory ShrimaU Lakshml Menon: That is a now illegally occupied by the Chinese suggestion for action. it is not practicable to verify the es- tent of other roads constructed b), Shrl Va,jpa),ee: I am asking on a them. point of fact, whether our Ambassador has been so directed. Shrl Vajpa),ee: May I know whether Government have given thought to Shrlmati La.... hmI Menon: We have the necessity of making some sort of not only had reports in the news- arrangement in order to keep them- papers, but the han. Member would selves informed about what may be remember that even in Karam Singh'. going On in those parts of Indian ter- report there was a reference to new 361 (Ai) LS._l. Oral Answers FEBRUARY 17, 1960 Ora! An.• wer. 1306
roads being constructed there. What Shri Jawaharlal Nehru: That is the I was saying was that it is not pos- very question. They havl: not been sible to verify these reports. instructed by us, because we do not think in the circumstances that that Mr. Speaker: All that the hon. kind of thing will bear any fruit. Our present relations with China, as is well Member wants to know is whether known to the House, arc strained, through our own agency-if no new and to enquire from them on such agency could be appointed there until a question is not likely to lead to any we sever diplomatic relations-some- results. thing has been done in this matter. It Is not a suggestion for action. It i. what is normally expected of Gov- Shri A. M. Tariq: The hon. Prime ernment. Minister has been kind enough to tell us that there are some difficulties du" ShrimaU Lakshml MeDon: Normally, to which We cannot go there, nor ~ whenever we have reports, they are our Ambassador been able to find out referred to our Embassy. But so tar anything from the Chinese Govern- we have not received any confirma- ment. Are the Government of India tion from Peking. aware of the fact that some foreign papers and some foreign journalists are building up some sort of stories Sbri SnreDdranath DwlvedJ: The and publicising 'hem in the world question whether this particular mat- creating scare and hatred among the ter was referred to our Ambassador people here? If so, what steps are is not replied. Government taking ·to contradict such reports'? The Prime Minister and Minister of External Atralrs (Shri JawaharJaI Nehru): The Ambassador in Peking Shri Jawaharlal Nehru: How ca'l has no sources of knowledge better we contradict stories, even though we than ours. might think they are not based on much truth? We cannot contradlet them without precise knowledge. Mr. Speaker: Hon. Members evid- ently are under the impression that Dr. Ram Subhag Singh: What is he could go there to verity. the distance or gap between OUr ad- ministered area and the Chinese ad- Shri 'Jawaharlal Nehru: He cannot ministered area in Ladakh? If our go there. Normally, people arc not administration extended upto the allowed to go to various places even point where ·the Chinese arc, we in China without permission. I do eould easily have known where those not think anybody is allowed to go to roads arc located. this area. Apart from that, there are no transport facilities available to Shri Jawaharla! Nehru: There is no anybody, unless the Chinese Govern- distance, broadly speaking. That is to ment provides them. say, the whole area, whether on the Chinese side or on our side, is not in Shrl Hem Barua: In view of the the normal sense of the word ad- fact that we have diplomatic relations ministered. It is administered in a with China, has our Embassy in Pek- vague sense of the word, by check ing been instructed from here to ac- posts and other places under our quire information from the Chinese control. Presumably, at some pJac_ Government as to whether extra not in every place-our check post. roads are built in this area or not? are a little distance away from theil'll. 01',,1 AftBWeTS MAGHA 28, 1881 (SAKA) OTlll Answers
So there is no gap, I do not think all Auto_llIl. lad...., ...... Iq along the line because it is a long Caaualttee line; but broadly speaking, there ;s no big area in between. + Shri P. K. Deo: Shrlmati Da Palehoadhart: Shrl U. C. Patnalk: May I know Shri B. C. Mul1lck: whether Government have tried to r Shri Rameshwar Tantl.: verify the statements made in this Shrl Damanl: House also during previous diseussions Shrl S. M. Banerjee: that there are a number of roads con- I Shrl Tanramel: structed from the Sinkiang-Tibet I Shrl Morarka: road inside our territory? °177. ~ Shrl T. B. Vlttal Rao: Shri Panprkar: Shri Jawallarlal Nehru: That is the I Shrl Assar: very question. I may say that accord- I ing to our information, some roads I Shrimati Reali Chakranrtt,: Shrl P. C. Borooah: have been constructed by the Chinese Shri Shree Narayan Das authorities in that area of Indian ter- Shri Radha Raman: ritory in Ladakh which is occupied I Shrl Khushwaqt Ral: by.them. LShri Jhllian Sinha: Shri Braj Raj Sinrh: The Prime Will the Minister of Commerce and Minister was pleased to say that our Industry be pleased to refer to the territory i. vaguely administered reply given to Starred Question "lo. there. in the sense that we have got 362 on the 27th November, 1959 and some check posts and all that there. state: May I know whether the territory oc- cupied by China is also vaguely ad- (a) whether the Automobile In- ministered'? dustry Reviewing Committee has since submitted its report; Shri Jawaharlal Nehru: That is (b) if so, the main recommendations what I submitted. On both sides, thereof; there is no regular administration which is normally there in a country. (c) the decisions taken thereon;' There are spots occUflied by check and posts etc. and for the rest, there are wandering shepherds on both sides. (d) whether a copy of .the report will be laid on the Table1 Shrl Braj Raj Singh: In the terri- tory occupied by China also? The Minister of Industry (Shri MaIlubhal Shah): (a) to (d). The Shri lawaharlal Nehru: Yes. Committee submitted its report to Government on 6th February, 1960, Shri Vajpayee: In view of the fact and the same is under consideration. that Government have decided not 10 send their patrols to the border, may Shrl Damanl: What time will Gov- I know how they had been able to ernment take to finalise their deci- reassure themselves that the Chinese sion on the Report, and by what time are not making any further inroads the caf'S will be available in the into OUr territory? market? •
Shrl Jawaharlal Nehru: Because we Shrl Manubhal Shah: I can only have our check posts. When they .ay for the present about the Report. cross the check-posts, naturally it is We won't take more than a month, known as the area is under the con- at the most two months, in comine trol of the check posts. to a final decision on the Report. Oral AflllWl!'I's FBBRUAaY 1'1, 1980 Ond AfllWet'.
SJart Damnl: May I know whether Ala r. OrIlla .... :aeron. Government are considering the ftoat- ation of a new company in collabora- + Shri SIUIpDD&: tion with existing manufacturers for { producing the small cars? °n8. Shri· Ram Krishan Gupta: Shri Chlntamonl Pnlgrahl: SJart Man.. hbal Shah: I would re- quest the hon. Member to await Gov- Will the Minister of PIaDnIDc be ernment's decision on the matter so pleased to refl!l' to the reply given to that all the other inferences could Unstarred Queation No. 1733 On the 18th December, 1959 and state: perhaps be better drawn later. (a) whether any decision has since Shri TanpmaDI: May I know wlle- been arrived at in respect of the aid ther the review committee has conaI- to be given to Orissa State for the dered the potential of H.A.L. in the setting up of administrative machi- public sector to develop and make nery for implementation of land re- small size cars, light and sturdy cars, forms; and as mentioned by the hon. Minister On a pl"evious occasion' (b) if so, with what results? The Parliamentary Secretary to tile Shri Manubbal Shah: All the as- MInIster of Lahour and Employment pects of this industry including the and PIB1111ing (Shri L. N. Mlshral: one suggested by the hon. Member Sbri Ram J[rIahan Gupta: :May I know what are the main features of ~ the land reform schemes in Orissa? + Shri L. N. M1shra: The Land Re- (lftwraPr: forms Bill of the Orissa State Govern- ~ II ~ ment was discussed in the Central Land Reforms Committee and certain ~~ modifications were approved. 1ft 'Uo ~ I!1Ii\' : eft ,,"0 .,0 ~ Shri SaDIr8JID&: May I know whe· ther recently there was any discus- ·'ltt. ~ 1ft lito .,0 .n : sion between the officials of the Gov- ernment of Orissa and the Planning ~~ Commission; and, if so, with what re- ~ ~ sults? I ~ -t'l fifo Sbri L. N. MIshra: The Bill was m T'" : discussed in the Central Land fie· ~ fonns Committee. l1ft ~ Sbri S8JIPDIIA: I wanted to know 'lin' ~ ftIIIT :niP! *'it t. whether there was any discussion be- ~ t tV. t it; Shri L. N. MIshra: On what sub- ~ I ""' m fil;f.I;r tlI: ~ ject, Sir? ~ ~ ~ I ~ it mfiTlIt 'a1Tl;f it; ~ q;J1t ~ IIif Mr. Speaker: Our jurisdiction is ~~ ~ ~ limited. The manner in which the land reforms have to be effected has 'lin' lPlftf ~ t ? to be considered by that Legislatur". The simple question here is how far help is given by the Centre for the The Minister of Industry (Shri administrative machinery and whether Manubhai Shah): A team of Soviet Technical experts is at present in the a decision has been arrived at in reS M pect of the aid to be given to the country to render technical assistance Orissa State. Questions have now in the final selection of construction been asked whether it is in the form .ites and collecting initial data nece.- of compensation for land acquired or sal')' for designing the live drug pro- for any other machinery that is being jects in view. As regards the setting set up. Beyond that, the details of up of the Drug farms, a technical corra- the land reforms do not fOt"m the sub- mitt"e has been constituted to recom- ject-matter of the question. mt!nd specific plants to be cultivated to the best advantage within the re- Sbri SaulllUlJlA: I wanted to know gional farms and to indicate the poll- whether there was any discussion on sible supplies of medicinal raw mate- this subject between the officials of lials from them. The State GoverD- the Government of Orissa and the u.ents have been addressed and the Planning Commission. material furnished by them will be placed before the technical committee. Mr. Speaker: If the details of the discussion are not relevant, the dis- -t'I """ • : IIft1ro( 'lin' ~ ellS_ion itself is irrelevant. ~ ~~~ ~ I 13 13 Oral Answers F'EBRUARY 17, 1960 Oral Answers 3{ ;;ft qt;r lIT {Ii: <"'R" ~ ;;rr ~~ in some Stares. ActuaIly, cinchona and other drugs and herbal plants are ~~ ~~ also being manufactured in the coun- Sbrl Manabhal Sbah: PrOduction is tryon a sizable scale. expected to start in the third year of the Third Plan. Q ~ mI' : ~ I I ~ ;N ~ ~ ~ a, 'l'I/t ~ Jjlft' ~ WI.: ~ ~ ~ ~ I ~~ ~ I ~ Jjlft' \;[)' if ;;ft fimur mTT rmI' ~I ~ I ~~ ~~ q;: ~ lIfT, iI'allIT ifIlT lIfT m fiI; If I ~ ~I ~ I ~ ~ ~ ;;ft ill: ~ J'T 'fiT1'd ~ ~ iii srm:"iIi ~ it ~ liI'm ~ m ~ ~ ~ tpf If e:, e: I ~ ? '«1': l{' 'II'l'm ~ ~ fiI; llft ~ ifI't it '!itt ~ ~ m ;;nif ffi 'flIT ~ ~ ~ wi\'3lIm ~ 'lit ~ 1(; ~ I ~ '1ft' Shri Ariil K. Chanda: Till 1952, the only punishment prescribed was tine. f.rfurar fiI;qr ~ ? In 1952, under clause 5, various punishments for imprisonment have Shrl Manubbal Shah: It is a ~ gestion for action and these things been prescribed. ranging to two or three years. For some types of will be taken inLo consideration. If. the hon. Member could write and give offence, the punishment is a fine which. may go up to 1,000. is suggestions f.-om this particular angle Rs. It not enhancement of punishment but of Intensive and economic development the more careful detection of mal- of drug farms for the benefit of the practices which would really serve country, that will be placed qefore the technical committee. • ~ PancUt D. N. Tiwari: In regard to AsaDsoI and Hyderabad ExplClldons recommendation No. (F), it has been said that the existing stal! Is not + sufficient to cope with the inspection .180 J Pandlt D. N. Tiwari: work. May I know whether it has . L Shrl VaJpayee: been decided to make fresh recruit- Will the Minister of Works, BoaslDe ments for this purpose? and Supply be pleased to state: Shrl ADi.l K. Chanda: We are con- (a) whether the reports on the ex- sidering this matter whether the plosions at Jhumaria Bazar, Asanso1 staff should be increased or not. on the 29th November, 1959 and in Shri Vajpayee: What action has Begum Bazar in Hyderabad on the been taken or is proposed to be Laken 13th December, 1959 have been con- to implement recommendation (c) in sidered and accepted by Govern- regard to the Centrally Administered ment; and areas? (b) whether any steps are being Shri AnII K. Chanda: We have re- taken to give effect to the various fernod the matter to the Home Minis- recommendations contained therein? try. The Deputy MinIster of Works, Shri Auroblndo Ghosal: What step!. Housing and Supply (Shri ADi.l It. are being taken in order to do away Chanda): (a) and (b). A statement with the dual control of this inspec- indicating the action taken by the tion which has been commented upon Government on the various recom- at length by Mr. Surita who enquired mendations contained in the report. about the Jamuria explosion? on the explosion aL Jamuria Bazar is placed on the Table of the Lok Shri AnD K. Chanda: So far as In- Sabha. [See Appendix I. annexure spection is concerned, the inspcctiol1 No. 56.] The report on tlie explosion by the department of explosives must ~ Begum Bazar. Hyderabad does not necessarily be restricted to the techni- contain any recommendation. cal requirements. With regard to the other aspects it is upon the local Pandlt D. N. Tiwari: From the authorities that we have to depend statement I find that the recommend- almost entirely. ation (e) has not been accepted by Government. In view of the fact that Shrl Sablman Ghose: May I knew illegal possession of these fire-arms whether the case was started against results in colossal loss of life and the the owners of this establishment present Act is not deterrent regard- under section 5 of the Explosives Act ing the commission of this illegal and they were taken into custody but oftence. what is the difficulty in en- during the investigation the case was hancing the sentence by an amend- changed to another section and they ment o{ the law? were let out? 1317 O,al ANWe7'S FEBRUARY 17, 1960 Oral Answers 1318 Shri Anll K. Chanda: I am afraid I notice that there was a lacuna and have not got the information. we had taken suitable action In the matter after that. Mr. Speaker: Is the case sub judice? Shri Subiman Ghose: It is pending. Detention of an American In Chinese But the section was changed. Consulate In Bombay Mr. Speaker: It is open to them to +. change the section. When the pro- SUi Ram Krishan Gupta: section is launched pri1ll4 facie it Shri Vajpayee: comes under one section. Later on, Shrl B. C. Mullick: rShri P. K. Deo: going into the evidence adduced, they have come to another section. Shri Rameshwar Tantla: Let us not go in to the details now. I Shrimati Da Palchoudhuri: Shri S. M. Banerjee: Last time 0 181 ~ ~ OIls: when we were discussing this ques- .1 Shri Rarhunath Slurh: tion and we raised the question about Shri A. M. Tariq: the payment of ad hoc compensation, Dr. Ram Subbag Sinrh: the han. Minister stated that it would Shrl P. G. Deb: be done after this enquiry. I want to Shri S. A. Mehdi: know whether any ad hoc compensa- I Shri D. C. Sharma: tion has been paid to the families of L Shri Hem Barua: those who died. Will the PrIme MInister be pleased Shri Anll K. Chanda: Yes, Sir. to refer to his statement made in The West Bengal Government are Lok Sabha on the 30th November, 1959 lII1lking some ad hoc ex-gratia pay- and reply given to Unstarred Ques- ments in case of need. tion No. 1069 on the 18th December, 1959 and state: Shri S. M. Banerjee: What ~ the (a) whether Government have COM- amount? Has it been paid Or not? pleted investigation into the allega- Shri Anll K. Chanda: We have asked tions of American Consulate, Bombay for detailed information from the and counter-allegations by Chinese Bengal Government about this. Consulate, Bombay regarding the kidnapping of their na tional; and Shri Tangamanl: May I know whe· (b) it so, the result thereof? ther suitable amendments to rule 91 which is silent about intimation of The Deputy Minister of External renewal of licence have been made Mairs (ShrlDmtl Lakahmi Menon): and whether there was no such in Ii- (a) and (b). We received from the mation in any of these two cases of Bombay Government, some days ago, explosion? May I know if that rule the report of the Bombay police on has been amended? their enquiries into the allegation. made by the US and Chinese Con- Shri Anil K. Chanda: In the answer sulate-General in Bombay. The police have already stated that rule 91 is being amended suitably. Already ex- found, on the basis of the evidence re- corded by them, that, prima facie, a ecutive instructions have been issued to the officers of the department. case bad been made out of assault on and fordble detention of an emplov".. Mr. Speaker: The point is whether of the US Consulate-General. Little before the explosion occurred rule 91 evidence was, however, forthcoming was amended and due intimation was in respect of the earlier course ot given to those people? events; and the circum.o;,tanccs in which the two employees of the US Shri Anil K. Chanda: No, Sir. It and Chinese Consulates-GenEral ap- is only after this unfortunate ex- peared in a taxi at the place where plosion that it was broulht to our the assault took place have not b"en 1319 Oral AnsweTs MAGHA 28, 1881 (SAKA) The Prime MlDJster and Minister 01 Shrl Jawaharlal NehnI: It is open- ExteraaJ Affairs (Shrl Jawaharlal it was open-for any party to in- Nehru): As the hon. Member him- stitute a case in the formal legal self has said, this was ·a very peculiar manner. Neither of them have in- and extraordinary incident which one stituted such a case. That was left normally reads about in fiction but to the Government of India or, more does not come across in reality. It is particularly, the Bombay Government very difficult for the External Mairs to take steps and the result of that Ministry to make rules to deal with enquiry-I repeat-was that while a these matters which are on the verge pTima facie case was established of of fiction. assault and detention of an American national by the Chinese Consulate- Shri Raclha Raman: May I know General, many parts of the story were whether the report which appeared obscure and they did not think there in the Press that the people concern- is, in the circumstances, adequate evi- ed in one of the Embassies had put dence to proceed much further in obstruction in the way of the police the matter. finding out the truth about the whole case, is correct? Shri Bem Barua: Independent of the police enquiry made into this Shrl Jawaharlal Nehrn: It is cor- incident, may I know whether . the rect to this ext.ent that at the earlier Government have tried to make an stages of enquiry not much co- assessment of the highly contradic- operation wa. rec.. ived fl'om . the tory statements made bv the two Chinese Consulate-General and the Consul Generals; if so, what is the person concerned ~ did not appear. conclusion that the Government have Later, he did appear and j(ave his arrived at? statement. Shrl Jawaharlal Nehru: The Gov- ShrI VajpaJee: Js it a fact that ernment, Sir, naturally, had to rely when the Bombay police reached the on the Bombay Government which Chinese Consulate, they found the is dealing with this matter, and I American gentleman with his hands have stated the conclusion of the and feet tied down arid if so, was it Bombay Government. Oral Answers FEBRUARY 17. 1960 Oral Answ.".. 1322 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ + II!1l'<: ~~ I ~~~ SArm .m- m-.n. f'" ~ ~~ '" 'a'If F"f II«f : ~ [~~~ *t .. ~ I '" ~ .co ~ : I," ~ ~ ~ '" SArm .m- tTmft : filwfi I," ttm;ft : ~ I ~~~ ~~ I ~~ I ~ ~~ I ~ ~ if1lT SI'ITof ~ ~ ~ HV,t ~ ~ "IFill ~ 'fi'U;r t Shri Jawaharlal Nehru: I ventured Shrl S. M. Banerjee: I want to to reply to a similar question some- know whether any reply has been time back. This question may be rect'!ived to our various protest letters divided up into two parts. One part to the Security Council; if so, may I involves the question of Kashmir and know whether they have taken any the territory, as we say, forcibly oc- action and what that action is? cupied by Pakistan. That is the larger Shrl Jawaharlal Nehru: The;,il>Uen issue. The other part is the construc- we have sent to the Security Council tion of dams etc. and their use for have as usual been circulated to all canal waters. That is a question the members of the Security Council. which can arise even between two Pakistan has put in counter letters countries who want to profit by such which have also been circulated. purpose. That does not involve any Shrl S. M. Banerjee: May I know transfer of territnry. Often between the reaction of the various countries! two countries such a proposal is If both the letters have been cir- made jointly or severally and some culated, could we ascertain the re- agreement is arrived at as to the action of the various countries to benefits etc. of that, and they agree those letters, whether it is in ~ to certain submergence of their own favour or not? territory. That does not inVOlve any transfer of territory. In this parti- Shrl Jawaharlal Nehru: I am not cular matter, because it is. connected able to say. with the major Kashmir issue, we Shrl Rem Barua: May I know whe- have taken objection repeatedly and ther it is a fact that the Mangla brought this matter up before the Dam dispute is essentially a part of United Nations, Security Council, and the Kashmir dispute; if so, whether all the papers in reeard to it have the solution of the Mangla Dam been placed previously on the Table dispute is interlinked with the solu- of the House. tion of the bigger issue, and, if the answer is in the affirmative, may I Shrl Damani: May I know how far know what steps Government have our treaty on Indus Basin water is taken to see that' this problem I. going to be affected by this project? solved independently and is not inter- Mr. Speaker: Thp quantity will be linked with the bigger issue? lessened. Shrl Jawaharlal Nehru: I have just ventured to explain, Sir, that this in- Shri Jawaharlal Nehru: Well, the volves two aspects. There is, as the quantity will not be lessened, the hon. Member has said, the Kashmir quantity will be put in a reservoir to dispute which involves the sovereig- be used. That will be controllable. nty over this area, and we claim that It is not that the water flows away; sovereignty. The other is the distri- it will be kept in a reservoir for use bution of certain waters, which may when needed. be dealt with apart from the question of sovereignty by agreement or other- M... Speaker: How much will we wise. Therefore, I cannot deal with suffer? the first question, it is a bie issue; the' second is one which mieht be dealt Shrl Jawaharlal Nehru: That, Sir, with without affecting the sovereignty depends on what the aueement is. of a country. The various proposals made in the ManDfaetnre 01 PeDclIs past and even in the present have been about a division of the various ·183, Shri D. C. Sharma: Will the rivers in the Punjab. In that division Minister of Commeree and 1D4ash7 this river &,oes to Pakistan. so that be pleased to state: from that point of view, it that is (a) the number of pencil manu- agreed to, we do not suffer tor lack facturing units in India and their of water. production capacity; 132S FEBRUARY 17, 1960 Ora! A lIStDers (b) whether Government consider ~ ~ iii; q"6";r mnt1m it;' it necessary to step further increase in the manufacturing units of pencils; f.!l( m- uri'f IfIl'ft ~ ..-rri ? and - (c) if so, the reasons for the same? ~~ ~ ~ I ~ ~~ Tbeo. MInIster of lDdustry (Shri MaDabhai Sbah): (a) There are 14 ~ I ~ ~ ~ pencil manufacturing units and their ~ ~~ ~ I Il ~ total installed capacity is 15'7 lakh ~~~~~ I gross per annum. ;mm: if ~ ~I I ~ ~ ~ (b) and (c). No, Sir; as such a consumer item could still be produced fiA; ~~ ~~ ~~ in larger quantities and the resulting ~~ ~ ~ competition would also enable con- tinuous improvement in quality. Shri Basappa: May I know whe- Shri D. C. Sharma: May I know ther there is any possibility of more the amount of money spent on the exports of these pencils from these import of these pencils from abroad? units to other countries? Shri Manubhai Shah: Nil. Shri Manubhai Shah: I replied a Shri D. C. Sharma: May I know similar QUEstion in Hindi. I said that if any quality control is going to be we are making very token exports imposed on the manufacture of pen- for the present, but in one or two cils because the pencils that come countries which We visited recently from outside are better? we found that they are larlle con- sumers of pencils and they do not Shrl Manubhai Shah: There is no make adequate quantities. So we are question of any quality control. The discus3;.ng i,with one or two rupee- hon. Member wiIJ be pleased to see payment countries for some sizable that some of the pencils manufactured exports going out from here. in the country, both coloured and black, are of the high quality com- Shri Ramanathan Chettlar: May parable to pencils made anywhere in know whether the unit in Madras has the world. got plans to expand its capacity; if so, whether the Government will ins ~ -.m Import of CoUaIa '- V.SA. ~ I steps to bring down the speculative rise in the prices of ffi cotton goods? Dr. Ram Subha, StDrh: rShri p. G. Deb: Silri KallllllCo: This cotton is per- Sbrl S. A. Mebdl: missible to mills OIlly and this is one I of th" steps by which the prices WIll J Shri Rarbunatb SlDgb: -I" be lowered. '""11 Sbrl Blbbutl MIsbra: Sbrl Tridlb Kumar SbrI P. G. Deb: May I know whe- l Cbaudburl: ther this will ~ the high prices Sbrl Amjad AU: of cloth! Will the Minister of Commerce IUI4 Sbrl KanuDlo: Yes, Sir. I I ~ be plt'8sed to state: Silri p. R. Patel: May I know whe- (a) whet:,er the Indian Government ther this import of cotton will dect have requested U. S. A. tor 2,50,000 the local price of cotton, and secondly. bales of cotton under P.L. 480; and whether the .tocking of this cotton by (b) if 50, how it is likely to be the textile mills will make them utilised? ~ incapable of buying local cotton? fte Minister of Commerce (Shri Shri ItanUBlo: No, Sir. The local Kanungo). (a) Negotiations were cotton crop is so short that it will recently held with the Government of make cotton available to the mills U.S.A. for al!ocation of additional which badly require it. eotton t.o India under her P .L. 480 Programme. An agreement was sub- Sbrl P. R. Patel: I wanted to know sequently concluded for an additional the efftct on the local price. allocation of 2'5 18kh bales (Ameri- ..an) u:.dcr the Programme. Shrl ltaDanlo: It will keep the normal price. (b) The entire quantity is being allocated to the Textile industry and ~~ ~ ~ imporls arc under way. ~~ ~ ~~ Dr. Ram Subhag SlDgh: May om I ~ !mow what is the shortfall in our cotton pruduction this yt'8r and th" causes therefor? ~ ~ ~ ~ Sbrl Kanungo: Normally we look for the crop size of 50 lakh bales and Shrl Damanl: In view of the acute this year our crop size has been about shortage of roltcn, may I know whe- 40 lakh odd baJes. ther the Government is considering the .)uestioll of increasing the quan- Dr. Ram Subhag SlDgh: May I tity o{ imp"rt<'d cotton from Americ.. know· the difference between the and, i1 so, the details thereof? prices that v'e are supposed to pay Shrl Kanurgo: There is consider- to the USA cotton and those of our able )lrcssuTE from the industry fcr own cotton? the import of more cotton. Shrl KanUDgo: At the moment, it i. almost parity. ~ ~ w If'JIt ~ ~ lJiT 'Ii'I5l" .rn-fi!; Shri Trldlb Kumar Chaudhurl: May 1 know if there is any proposal to ;;it 'Ii'll Wl" 11ft ~ I !!t1ft' ~ fu'Ii\ specific case of such propaganda, but are vigilant against any such attempt it; ~ ~~I being made. Shrl DamaDl: The hon. Minister has Sbri Hem Barua: May 1 know whe_ said tIuIt there is pressure from tll c ther it is a fact that cyclostyled copies mill industry for importing more of letters purported to have been cot.ton. I wan, to know what tim(' written by an association formed by the Government will take for a de- a body, the "Anti-Indian Expansionist cision on 'his matter, because there Association of the People's Republic i. acute shortage of cotton and the of China", arc circulated in this coun- production is affected thereby? try in which an undisguised attack is Shri KanunlO: We are keeping the made on Mr. Nehru and his China matter under review almost every polioy and which goes on to accuse day. Mr. Nehru of "expansionist ambitions and practically instigating the revolt Shri Joaebim Alva: While planning of the Tibetan rebels" and, if so, for the import of cotton from America whether the Government have tried to under all these concessions, may I comb out the sources of this nefarious know whelher the Government has propaganda, and if so, what success considered the question of buying have the Government achieved so far cotton of similar quality from our in this matter? next-door neighbour, Pakistan? Shri KanunlO: Yes, Sir. We are The Prime Minister and Minister of buyin" as much cotton as Pakistan is External Allain (Sbrl Jawaharlal prepared to sell. Nehru): I shall reply to this from memory. An odd sheet like this did ehln_ Propaganda in Border Area come to our notice. I t was an anonymous, cyclostyled sheet, and we tried to enquire. We cou"ld not trace Shri Hem Barna:+ it anywhere. It has not been distri- r Shri D. C. Sharma: buted widely. Very few people know • J Sbrt Amjad All: about it. In fact I think it came to 185. Shrt Shree Narayan Da5: 1 us by post, as far as I remember. It I Sbrl Radha Raman: '0 a very objectionable sheet. But it Sbri Kbushwaqt RaJ: L IS very difficult to attach that to any Will the Prime Minister be pleased propaganda. What I mean is, some- to refer to the reply given to Starred times, people who want to get other Question No. 123 on the 19th Novem- people into trouble put across these ber, 1959 and state: things. One cannot catch hold of them. Certainly, it is not that it has (a) whether enquiries have been no effect, but what I mean is, it is not completed in the matter of insidious widely distributed. Maybe a few per_ propaganda being carried by some sons got it by post anonymously. It Chinese traders and laundrymen who is difficult to deal with such matters. have opened shops recently in many places in border areas; Shri Hem Barna: May I know whe- (b) what action has been taken as ther it is a fact that the West Bengal a result of these enquiries; and police discovered some Chinese maga- zines at Kalimpong, which question (c) whether such propaganda has the integrity of Indian territory and, been stopped as a result of action it so, what 'lI'e thos!' magazines and taken? the details thereof? It was only on the 8th January. The Parliamentary Secretary to the lIJDister of Extemal Main (Shrl Shrl Jawabarlal Nehru: Maybe, Sadat All Khan): (a) to (c). Gov- presumably the West Bengal police ernment have not come across any took posaessjon of them. 133 1 Oral Answers MAGHA 28, 1881 (SAKAl Oral Answers 1332 Shrl Hem Barua: They took posses- this type, and I do not think it is very sion, but I just wan'\. to know the easy for anyone to do it there either. character of these magazines. Whether the Government here are aware of Sbrimatl MaDjIlIa Dm: May I the character of these magazines, the know whether any restrictions are number of copies seized, and whether placed with regard to the unauthoris- this has been a regular feature in ed existence of the Chinese in Assam Kalimpong where they are circulated. and their unrestricted movement all This sort of magazines question the over Assam? territorial integrity of this country. Shri Jawabarlal Nebrll: If the Sbrl Jawabarlal Nehru: Some such thing is unauthorised, that means res- papers were circulated originally, I triction and action is taken there. But think. In the recent past, there has 80 far as NEFA is concerned, the han. been no such circulation. It is fairly Member might be assured, it is pro- strict. If a·ny such case comes to the tected by all kinds of rules and regu- hon. Member's notice, we shalI gladly lations which apply not to the Chinese take steps. only but to all foreigners; and no one can go there without a pennit ~ ~ ~ ~ and those permits are not easily given. .. m : er.r fulfT In some Parts of NEFA they are not 'Pff ~ JI1f;T{ ~ ~ !I'm: ~ ~ ~ given at all even with difficulty. ~ ~ ~ ~ 'Pff ~ JI1f;T{ if tt w So far as other parts of NEFA are ~~~ I ~ concerned, there is a certain freedom TfIT ~ 7 of movement in some areas. There too, in the inner line, the freedom of movement does not apply. In Kalim- ~ ~ ~ I I ~ pong and some other areas, every ~ ~ ~~ ~ foreigner has to register. Every new- ~ ~I~ ~~ comer gets n registration certificate for a week, and after that, except for ~ ~~~~ ~ special reasons, he cannot stay there .. ~ ~ f.!; ~ 'm ~ ~ ~ tt Sbri Hem Barua rose- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Mr. Speaker: I have allowed a m ~ IIIfl;r;m: ~ I '« lfi! m ~ number of questions. ~~~~~ I ~~ Shri Hem Barua: My question 'I"<'ffi ~ ~ ~ ~ (it omr t 'I" follows from the previous answer. In ~~~~ ~ ~ view of the fact that these magazines '"1m ~ lfiT ~ ~ ~ were discovered in Kalimpong and in view of the fact that the Prime Minis- lim<: ~ ~ I lR11f em: iJ ~ ~ ttm, ter has said that every foreigner in ~ ~ ~ ~ Kalimpong has t() register, may I know whether these magazines wer.. dis- ~ 'IfRIT ~ I mt-TIlT covered with any registered foreigner ShrimaU MaDjola Den: May I know or where? whether any case of anti-national pro- paganda in NEFA in particular ha.. Shri Jawabarlal Nehru: So far as been brought to the notice of Gov- I remember, they were f()und in some ernment? booksh()p. I am not quite sure about that. Mr. Speaker: Anti-Indian propa- randa in NEFA. Shri Hem Barua: Found by whom? Sbri Jawabarlal Nehru: I have not Mr. Speaker: Have foreigners got heard of any propaganda in NEFA, of bookshops there? 1333 Ora! Answers FEBRUARY 17, 1960 Ora! Answers 1334 Shri Hem Barua: Yes, Sir. I want Kashmir Radio by our Government to know whether the owner of the not eVL", to broadcast material about bookshop is a registered foreigner or India's case in Kashmir? not. Shrl Jawabarlal Nebna: I cannot Mr. Speaker: He wants to know if say straightaway whether he was a instructions have been issued by the registered foreigner. Central Government not to make pro- paganda, even it it is favourable to Shrl D. C. Sharma rose- us? Mr. S.-ker: The hon. Member did not get up all along; it he had got Tbe Minister of Information and lIP, I would have given him prefer- Broadcasting (Dr. Iteskar): The ence. answer is very clear. The point is, the Azad Kashmir Radio is in the Shri D. C. Sharma: I got up so habit sometimes of using abusive many times. language and broadcasting articles and Mr. Speaker: Next question. sketches in that tone. We do not generally follow that pattern. No new instructions have been issued J'ammu and SriDapr Radio Statlaas regarding this question now. This has been there for a long time. Shrl P. G. Deb: .188 f Shri Rameshwar Tantia: Mr. Speaker: His question is whe- '", Shrimatl Ma1Ida Ahmed: ther legitimate propaganda on our Dr. Ram Subha, Singh: L side is also tabooed? Will the Minister of information and Broadeastlng be pleased to state: Dr. K.eskar: I have made it clear that we are today counteracting the (a) whether it is a tact that Pakis· propaganda of Azad Kashmir Radio tan-occupied Kashmir Radio conti:mes or Pakistan Radio whenever it gives to broadcast anti-Indian propaganda; wrong facts either regarding India or (b) whether it is also a fact that our case in Kashmir. the radio stations of Jammu and Srinagar have stopped broadcasts to counter such anti-Indian propaganda; o;ft ao '0 ~ 'Ii ~ "Il'm and ~~ I ~~ ~~ (Interruptions) (c) if so, why these broadcasts have been stopped? An Hon. Member: Occupied The Parliamentary Secretary to 1he Kashmir. MJnister of information and Broadeast- lag (Shrl A. C. Joshi): (a) Yes, Sir. o..ft ao ,,0 ~ : . . . «fW; (b) and (c). It would not be correct ~ ~ iffi. ~~ (Interruptions) to say. that the Jammu andSrinagar Stations have ceased counteracting ~~ ~~ ~ anti-Indian Propaganda by the Azad ~ ~ ~ m it '1ft m=r