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Meeting of the Parliament Tuesday 2 October 2018 Session 5 © Parliamentary copyright. Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Information on the Scottish Parliament’s copyright policy can be found on the website - www.parliament.scot or by contacting Public Information on 0131 348 5000 Tuesday 2 October 2018 CONTENTS Col. TIME FOR REFLECTION ....................................................................................................................................... 1 MOTION OF CONDOLENCE .................................................................................................................................. 3 Motion moved—[Ruth Davidson]. The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) ........................................................................................................ 3 Ruth Davidson (Edinburgh Central) (Con) ................................................................................................... 4 The First Minister (Nicola Sturgeon) ............................................................................................................. 7 Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) ................................................................................................. 10 Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) .............................................................................................................. 12 Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) ........................................................................................................... 13 BUSINESS MOTION ........................................................................................................................................... 15 Motion moved—[Graeme Dey]—and agreed to. TOPICAL QUESTION TIME ................................................................................................................................. 16 Scottish League Cup Semi-finals ............................................................................................................... 16 SOCIAL SECURITY CHARTER ............................................................................................................................ 21 Motion moved—[Shirley—Anne Somerville]. Amendment moved—[Jeremy Balfour]. Amendment moved—[Mark Griffin]. The Cabinet Secretary for Social Security and Older People (Shirley-Anne Somerville) .......................... 21 Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) .................................................................................................................. 25 Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab).......................................................................................................... 27 Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) .............................................................................................................. 29 Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) .......................................................................................... 32 Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) ................................................................................ 34 Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) .............................................................................. 36 Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) ...................................................................................... 39 Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) ................................................................................................................ 40 Shona Robison (Dundee City East) (SNP) ................................................................................................. 43 Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) ........................................................................................................ 45 Ruth Maguire (Cunninghame South) (SNP) ............................................................................................... 47 Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) ................................................................................................ 49 Dr Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) ......................................................................................... 51 Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ...................................................................................... 53 George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) ................................................................................................................... 55 Mark Griffin ................................................................................................................................................. 57 Michelle Ballantyne (South Scotland) (Con) ............................................................................................... 59 Shirley-Anne Somerville ............................................................................................................................. 61 COMMITTEE ANNOUNCEMENTS ......................................................................................................................... 66 Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) ................................................................................................................. 66 DECISION TIME ................................................................................................................................................ 68 CYCLE TO SYRACUSE ...................................................................................................................................... 69 Motion debated—[Oliver Mundell]. Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) ......................................................................................................... 70 Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) ..................................................................................................... 73 Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) ................................................................................. 75 Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) .............................................. 77 Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) ........................................................................................................... 78 Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) ...................................................................................................... 80 The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) .................................................................................... 82 1 2 OCTOBER 2018 2 angle. That leg was completely free, but it was Scottish Parliament useless. It was never designed to be like that. Tuesday 2 October 2018 I speak today to those entrusted with enacting laws that set the boundaries of freedom in Scotland. However, if our laws and freedoms are [The Presiding Officer opened the meeting at to bring happiness to our nation, we need vision. 14:00] Vision is not something that you get after the pressing matters of the day are out of the way. Time for Reflection Vision never comes about by committee—and if the Scottish Parliament and the Church of The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh): Good Scotland have one thing in common, it may be afternoon. The first item of business is time for committees. Vision comes when a man or woman reflection. Our time for reflection leader is the Rev sees what could be. Ian MacDonald, who is the senior minister at Holy Trinity church in Edinburgh. I have served the people of Wester Hailes for 13 years. We have a vision of a time when loneliness, The Rev Ian MacDonald (Holy Trinity Church addiction and purposelessness are things that are of Scotland, Wester Hailes, Edinburgh): Thank spoken of only in the past tense. It is a vision that I you for this opportunity to address you today. As believe that local churches in local communities you may know, one of the duties and, indeed, are ideally placed to provide the answer to. privileges of the Christian faith is to pray for the leaders and those in authority. I want to assure If I or the community that I serve lack vision, you that the Kirk prays for you regularly before the there is an ancient prayer that is available to all— god and father of our Lord Jesus Christ. I might even to members of this Parliament. Someone add that we pray for you, not against you, despite turned it into a timeless hymn. It simply says, “Be what somebody might have told you. Thank you Thou My Vision”. for your hard work and your service, particularly Thanks for listening. whenever you have demonstrated compassion for the poorest in our communities. I will start with a question. What do the sewing machine, insulin treatment for diabetics and the double helix structure of DNA have in common? The answer is that it is claimed that they were all revealed by dream or vision. Vision is something that is important for the people of Scotland today. The Bible says: “Where there is no vision the people cast off restraint, but happy are they that keep the law.” I believe that there is a lawgiver—a reason for the inexplicable fact that everything in the observable universe of vast solar systems and myriad galaxies, and of the minutest quarks and gluons, follows laws. Christians believe that God has revealed himself as lawgiver not only in the world around us but also in scripture and is therefore the one to whom we must give account. Those laws, on which our justice system is based, are boundaries that protect us, and, applied in love, they add to the happiness