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Official Report (Hansard) Monday 25 October 2010 Volume 57, No 1 Session 2010-2011 Contents Assembly Business Condolences ..................................................................................................................................1 Private Members’ Business Comprehensive Spending Review ....................................................................................................1 Suggested amendments or corrections will be considered by the Editor. They should be sent to: The Editor of Debates, Room 248, Parliament Buildings, Belfast BT4 3XX. Tel: 028 9052 1135 · e-mail: [email protected] to arrive not later than two weeks after publication of this report. Assembly Members Adams, Gerry (West Belfast) McCallister, John (South Down) Anderson, Ms Martina (Foyle) McCann, Fra (West Belfast) Anderson, Sydney (Upper Bann) McCann, Ms Jennifer (West Belfast) Armstrong, Billy (Mid Ulster) McCarthy, Kieran (Strangford) Attwood, Alex (West Belfast) McCartney, Raymond (Foyle) Bannside, The Lord (North Antrim) McCausland, Nelson (North Belfast) Beggs, Roy (East Antrim) McClarty, David (East Londonderry) Bell, Jonathan (Strangford) McCrea, Basil (Lagan Valley) Boylan, Cathal (Newry and Armagh) McCrea, Ian (Mid Ulster) Bradley, Dominic (Newry and Armagh) McDevitt, Conall (South Belfast) Bradley, Mrs Mary (Foyle) McDonnell, Dr Alasdair (South Belfast) Bradley, P J (South Down) Brady, Mickey (Newry and Armagh) McElduff, Barry (West Tyrone) Bresland, Allan (West Tyrone) McFarland, Alan (North Down) Browne, The Lord (East Belfast) McGill, Mrs Claire (West Tyrone) Buchanan, Thomas (West Tyrone) McGimpsey, Michael (South Belfast) Burns, Thomas (South Antrim) McGlone, Patsy (Mid Ulster) Butler, Paul (Lagan Valley) McGuinness, Martin (Mid Ulster) Campbell, Gregory (East Londonderry) McHugh, Gerry (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Clarke, Trevor (South Antrim) McIlveen, Miss Michelle (Strangford) Clarke, Willie (South Down) McKay, Daithí (North Antrim) Cobain, Fred (North Belfast) McLaughlin, Mitchel (South Antrim) Coulter, Rev Dr Robert (North Antrim) McNarry, David (Strangford) Craig, Jonathan (Lagan Valley) McQuillan, Adrian (East Londonderry) Cree, Leslie (North Down) Maginness, Alban (North Belfast) Dallat, John (East Londonderry) Maskey, Alex (South Belfast) Deeny, Dr Kieran (West Tyrone) Maskey, Paul (West Belfast) Doherty, Pat (West Tyrone) Molloy, Francie (Mid Ulster) Durkan, Mark (Foyle) Morrow, The Lord (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Easton, Alex (North Down) Elliott, Tom (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Moutray, Stephen (Upper Bann) Empey, Sir Reg (East Belfast) Murphy, Conor (Newry and Armagh) Farry, Dr Stephen (North Down) Neeson, Sean (East Antrim) Ford, David (South Antrim) Newton, Robin (East Belfast) Foster, Mrs Arlene (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Ní Chuilín, Ms Carál (North Belfast) Frew, Paul (North Antrim) O’Dowd, John (Upper Bann) Gallagher, Tommy (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) O’Loan, Declan (North Antrim) Gardiner, Samuel (Upper Bann) O’Neill, Mrs Michelle (Mid Ulster) Gibson, Simpson (Strangford) Poots, Edwin (Lagan Valley) Gildernew, Ms Michelle (Fermanagh and Purvis, Ms Dawn (East Belfast) South Tyrone) Ramsey, Pat (Foyle) Girvan, Paul (South Antrim) Ramsey, Ms Sue (West Belfast) Givan, Paul (Lagan Valley) Ritchie, Ms Margaret (South Down) Hamilton, Simon (Strangford) Robinson, George (East Londonderry) Hay, William (Speaker) Robinson, Ken (East Antrim) Hilditch, David (East Antrim) Robinson, Peter (East Belfast) Humphrey, William (North Belfast) Ross, Alastair (East Antrim) Irwin, William (Newry and Armagh) Kelly, Mrs Dolores (Upper Bann) Ruane, Ms Caitríona (South Down) Kelly, Gerry (North Belfast) Savage, George (Upper Bann) Kennedy, Danny (Newry and Armagh) Spratt, Jimmy (South Belfast) Kinahan, Danny (South Antrim) Storey, Mervyn (North Antrim) Leonard, Billy (East Londonderry) Weir, Peter (North Down) Lo, Ms Anna (South Belfast) Wells, Jim (South Down) Lunn, Trevor (Lagan Valley) Wilson, Brian (North Down) Lyttle, Chris (East Belfast) Wilson, Sammy (East Antrim) Northern Ireland Assembly Monday 25 October 2010 The Assembly met at 10.30 am (Mr Speaker in the Chair). Members observed two minutes’ silence. Assembly Business Private Members’ Business Condolences Comprehensive Spending Review Mr Speaker: Before we move to today’s Mr Speaker: Having been given notice by not business, on behalf of the whole House, I less than 30 Members under Standing Order want to extend our deepest sympathies to the 11, I have summoned the Assembly to meet families of Mr John Harrison and Mr Jim Dougal, today for the purpose of debating the motion who passed away recently, and who were very that appears in the Order Paper. The Business well known to all Members of the House. I also Committee has agreed to allow up to two hours extend our sympathies to the families of the for the debate. The proposer of the motion will three people who died tragically on Saturday have 10 minutes in which to propose and 10 as the result of a helicopter accident in the minutes in which to make a winding-up speech. Mournes. I know that our prayers and thoughts Two amendments have been selected and are with all those families this morning. published on the Marshalled List. The proposer of each amendment will have 10 minutes in which to propose and five minutes in which to make a winding-up speech. All other Members who are called to speak will have five minutes. Mr Adams: I beg to move That this Assembly has serious concerns about the impact of the British Government’s comprehensive spending review proposals; and calls on the Minister of Finance and Personnel to address these concerns. Go raibh maith agat, a Cheann Comhairle. I also pass on our sympathies and solidarity to the families of John Harrison and Jim Dougal. In proposing the motion, I welcome the amendments that have been tabled by the Democratic Unionist Party and the Ulster Unionist Party. I call upon parties and MLAs to support the amended motion. We are here to represent our peers and were sent here to show leadership and to advocate the rights of citizens. The Assembly is part of a unique and experimental form of governance that is linked to other institutions, and it acts as a bridge out of conflict. It is also a forum in which opposing views can be articulated as we seek to build a new society. Developing a peace 1 Monday 25 October 2010 Private Members’ Business: Comprehensive Spending Review process and sustainable institutions collectively poorest will be hit 10 times harder than the has been a considerable achievement, but we wealthy; those are not my statistics but others’. can, and have to, do more. The Assembly has to Public services will be decimated. Among the deliver for those whom we represent. We have provisions most likely to be affected are mental met many challenges in the recent past, but the health services, which are under pressure current crisis may well be the most challenging already. Last week, in the constituency of West of all, impacting as it does on the social and Belfast, four young people are suspected of economic rights of citizens. having taken their own lives. I was at one of the funerals, and I called to each of the wake You will not be surprised to hear, a Cheann houses. That is an awful crisis for their families Comhairle, that Sinn Féin has no truck for and the communities around them. However, it British Government involvement in Irish affairs. should also be a crisis for the Assembly. Suicide Others here have an entirely different view. prevention, which is just one pertinent example, Let us agree to disagree on that this morning. needs an emergency response with appropriate Instead, let us focus on that Government’s resources. Where is that response? That is what assault on public services, lower- and middle- people were asking me on Saturday morning. income families, people on social welfare and It will certainly not be forthcoming if the Tories the most vulnerable sections of our community. have their way. During the Westminster election, some parties here attached themselves to the Tory Lone parents, the elderly and the sick will suffer bandwagon. Sinn Féin pointed out the danger of the most. The patterns of poverty that have another period of Tory governance. Regrettably remained unchanged over decades, which affect and unfortunately, our prediction has come true. supporters of the unionist parties, our party and other parties, will be reinforced. Up to 20,000 As a consequence, the North now faces a public sector jobs will go, and another 16,000 reduction of 6·9% in the current expenditure private sector jobs will follow. budget and 37% in capital expenditure over the next four years. The Tory Government have The outlook is bleak, but it does not have to also reneged on the St Andrews commitment be like this. There is another way of coming to £18 billion for infrastructure. That is entirely at the problem; there is a better way. Is féidir and absolutely unacceptable, and we need linn todhchaí níos fear a bheith againn. We to face up to that. It is worth noting that the need to have a vision of where the Assembly Irish Government have kept to their financial wants to go and what we want to do for those commitments. The massive cut in capital whom we represent. The best way to tackle expenditure will have a devastating impact on the recession is through stimulus, investing in the construction industry, our infrastructure and jobs, building infrastructure, tackling waste and the upgrade and maintenance of hospitals and