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Wednesday Volume 580 14 May 2014 No. 162 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Wednesday 14 May 2014 £5·00 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2014 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 733 14 MAY 2014 734 Mr Peter Hain (Neath) (Lab): Given that the future House of Commons of businesses in Wales depends on the vibrancy of our young workers, is the right hon. Gentleman encouraged by the fact that the Welsh Government’s policies are Wednesday 14 May 2014 clearly working, in that the youth unemployment rate has come down faster and further than anywhere else in The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock the United Kingdom? Can he be less churlish towards the Welsh Government and praise the jobs growth fund and that achievement? PRAYERS Mr Jones: Far from being churlish, I commend Jobs Growth Wales for making an important contribution. [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] Having said that, it is a limited contribution, and the important thing is for the Welsh Government to work closely with the Department for Work and Pensions BUSINESS BEFORE QUESTIONS to ensure that we can drive down even further the unemployment rates. ELECTORAL COMMISSIONERS THE VICE-CHAMBERLAIN OF THE HOUSEHOLD reported Nia Griffith (Llanelli) (Lab): With businesses in Wales to the House, That Her Majesty, having been attended still cautious and a Budget that does little to help the with its Address, was pleased to receive the same very 300,000 people in Wales who are earning less than the graciously and give the following Answer, which was living wage, will the Secretary of State now back Labour’s signed in her own hand: plans to give a tax break to businesses that raise their I have received your humble Address, praying that I employees’ pay to at least the living wage, so that work should appoint Bridget Prentice to be an Electoral will pay? Commissioner for the period ending on 30 September 2018, and Alasdair Morgan to be an Electoral Commissioner Mr Jones: As the hon. Lady knows, we have given for the period ending on 30 September 2016. I will comply every business in Wales relief against national insurance with your request. contributions of up to £2,000. We have also taken young people up to the age of 21 out of employers’ . national insurance contributions altogether. I very much hoped that the hon. Lady would welcome that. It was an excellent Budget for business in Wales. Oral Answers to Questions EU Membership 2. Mr David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab): What assessment WALES he has made of the net benefits to people in Wales of the UK’s membership of the EU. [903929] The Secretary of State was asked— 3. Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) (Lab): What estimate he has made of the level of trade undertaken by Budget (Businesses) businesses in Wales with countries in the EU. [903930] 1. Mr David Amess (Southend West) (Con): What 4. Huw Irranca-Davies (Ogmore) (Lab): Whether he assessment he has made of the potential effects of the has recently discussed the importance of UK measures in the 2014 Budget on businesses in Wales. membership of the EU with leading employers [903928] in Wales. [903931] The Secretary of State for Wales (Mr David Jones): The Budget represents the next step in our long-term The Secretary of State for Wales (Mr David Jones): economic plan with a package of measures to deliver The EU remains a vital export market for Wales, together economic security for businesses and people in Wales with countries outside the EU, but Wales and the UK and across the UK. would benefit from a renegotiated position within Europe, which is why the Prime Minister has committed to Mr Amess: I hope that this is not too difficult a negotiating a new settlement in the European Union, to question for my right hon. Friend, but does he agree secure jobs and growth and to enable the EU to become with my Welsh relatives that the best way to help more competitive, flexible and prosperous. businesses is to reduce taxation? Mr Hanson: Given that 191,000 jobs in Wales are Mr Jones: My hon. Friend is entirely right, which is directly dependent on the EU, that £1 billion came to why we have reduced the rate of corporation tax from Wales last year from the EU, and that firms such as 28p in the pound to 21p, with a further reduction to Ford in the south and Airbus in the north are committed 20% next year. For similar reasons, the Wales Bill makes to maintaining our relationship with the EU, will the provision for the Welsh Assembly to call a referendum Secretary of State join me in saying that the EU is good on a lower rate of taxation for Wales, and I hope that it for Britain? The uncertainty that he is creating should will seize that opportunity. be stopped. 735 Oral Answers14 MAY 2014 Oral Answers 736 Mr Jones: I certainly agree with the right hon. Gentleman should seek to renegotiate our position in the European that membership of a free trade area is extremely good Union and put the results of that negotiation to the for Britain. Where I disagree with him, I think, is on the people of Wales and the rest of the United Kingdom? level of intervention and top-down meddlesome interference by the EU. The people of this country clearly want a Mr Jones: My hon. Friend is entirely right. This referendum on Europe and only the Conservative party Conservative party intends to renegotiate our position can and will deliver that referendum. within Europe and to put that renegotiation to the British people in a vote by the end of 2017. We think Kevin Brennan: What Welsh business leaders want that that is democracy and it is a shame that the Labour from their political leaders is certainty about our future party does not share that view. in the European Union. Why is the Secretary of State so reluctant to say that being a member of the European James Wharton (Stockton South) (Con): I absolutely Union is good for Wales? Is he personally committed to agree with my right hon. Friend that we need to renegotiate this country’s future membership of the European Union? and get a better deal from the European Union, but does he not also agree that it is about time we ended the Mr Jones: As I have just made clear to the right hon. uncertainty and that the only way we can do that is by Member for Delyn (Mr Hanson), I believe that membership giving the British people, not just in Wales but across of a free trade area is extremely important for Britain, the UK, a say in an in/out vote? but what the people of this country want is a say on whether they should remain part of the sort of Europe Mr Jones: My hon. Friend is right and I applaud his we have at the moment. It is interesting that the Labour sterling efforts to try to achieve that. We intend to give Party is not anxious to deliver a voice to the people of the people of this country—the whole country—a vote Wales. on Europe and we are the only party that can and will do that. Mr Speaker: I call Huw Irranca-Davies. 15. [903942] Bob Blackman (Harrow East) (Con): Huw Irranca-Davies: No. 4, Mr Speaker. Clearly, one opportunity offered by the European Union is that of greater investment in the energy Mr Speaker: No, the hon. Gentleman misses the supply in Wales and potential exports to the EU. What point. His question has been grouped and his moment conversations has my right hon. Friend had with his is now. colleagues in the European Union on the opportunities for such investment? Huw Irranca-Davies: I apologise, Mr Speaker. I misunderstood. Mr Jones: The energy sector is very important for Wales and the Government are investing heavily in Mr Speaker: He was too busy looking at his iPhone. energy, including giving support for the new nuclear Let us hear his question. power station at Wylfa Newydd. The market between this country and Europe is extremely important—a Huw Irranca-Davies: I am rightly reprimanded, two-way flow—and our energy interventions will ensure Mr Speaker. I must pay attention. that our energy sector is supported. On the basis that the head of European operations Owen Smith (Pontypridd) (Lab): We know that this has made it clear that to threaten exit from the EU Government are out of touch, but listening to the would be cutting off our nose to spite our face, and that Secretary of State this morning I fear that he is completely 14,000 jobs in Ford Bridgend and in Dagenham would out of touch with the views of Welsh business about the rely on our not leaving the EU, will the right hon. European Union. Has he spoken to Ford, GE, Hitachi, Gentleman say that he, as the Secretary of State for Citibank, BMW or Airbus, which are all companies Wales responsible for protecting those jobs, is personally that have expressed their concerns? If he has not, does committed to keeping Wales within the UK and the he know how many jobs in Wales are reliant on our European Union? membership of the European Union? Mr Jones: I think that the hon. Gentleman is referring Mr Jones: I speak regularly to Welsh businesses—I to the director of operations for Ford’s manufacturing dare say more frequently than the hon.