Masaryk University Faculty of Arts

Department of English and American Studies

English Language and Literature

Bc. et Bc. Veronika Válkyová

Aspects of Conversation in a Talk Show Discourse Master’s Diploma Thesis

Supervisor: Mgr., Jan Chovanec, Ph. D.

2015

I declare that I have worked on this thesis independently, using only the primary and secondary sources listed in the bibliography.

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I would like to express my gratitude to Mgr. Jan Chovanec Ph.D. for taking a chance on me. I would also like to thank Lenka for her never ending support and encouragement and Marika, my fellow traveler.

Table of Contents

Introduction ...... 1 1. Description of the Methods ...... 1 1.1 Corpora Description ...... 2 2. Media Discourse ...... 3 3. Talk Show ...... 6 3.1 Talk Show vs. Television Talk ...... 6 3.2 Historical development ...... 7 3.3 Late Night Talk Show Format ...... 9 3.4 Daytime Talk Show Format ...... 10 4. Conversation Analysis and Talk Show Features ...... 12 4.1 Institutional vs. Non-institutional Talk ...... 12 4.2 Spontaneous Talk ...... 14 4.3 Conversation vs. Talk Show Structure ...... 15 4.4 Interaction and Turn Taking ...... 16 4.5 Expressing Intimacy and Politeness ...... 18 5. Aspects of Structural Arrangement ...... 21 5.1 Studio Setting Description...... 21 5.1.1 The Talk ...... 21 5.1.2 The Ellen DeGeneres Show ...... 22 5.1.3 Jimmy Kimmel Live! ...... 22 5.1.4 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon ...... 23 5.2 Chronological Structure of the Episodes ...... 24 5.3 Content Units ...... 28 5.3.1 The Talk: Thomas Lennon, Elisabeth Hurley, Fall Out Boy ...... 28 5.3.2 Ellen: cast of Glee, Ne-Yo ...... 30 5.3.3 Jimmy Kimmel Live: Barack Obama, Sean Penn ...... 30 5.3.4 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon:Hugh Jackman,Tiffani Thiesen,Hozier 32 5.4 Punctuation units ...... 33 5.4.1 Announcement ...... 33 5.4.2 Opening Lines ...... 34 5.4.3 Closing ...... 35 5.4.4 Commercial Break ...... 36 6. Aspects of Interaction ...... 38 6.1 Turn-taking (claiming, holding, yielding) ...... 38

6.2 Feedback and Interruptions ...... 42 6.3 Scripted vs. Unscripted Questions ...... 47 6.3.1 The Talk ...... 47 6.3.2 Ellen Show ...... 48 6.3.3 Jimmy Kimmel Live! ...... 49 6.3.4 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon ...... 50 7. Aspects of Intimacy and Politeness ...... 51 7.1 Greetings ...... 51 7.2 Addressing ...... 53 7.3 Subjective perceptions ...... 55 7.4 Private Life Stories...... 55 8. Conclusion ...... 59 Bibliography ...... 63 Primary Sources ...... 63 Secondary Sources ...... 64 Resumé in English ...... 69 Resumé in Czech ...... 70 Appendix 1: ...... 71 Transcription signs (Tolson, 2006) ...... 71 Appendix 2: ...... 72 Ellen Show ...... 72 Jimmy Kimmel Live! ...... 79 The Talk ...... 91 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon ...... 96

Introduction

The advanced level of technological innovativeness and constant progression in the field of information technology has been the intermediary for an unstoppable advancement in the media communication possibilities.

Language of the media has been developing hand in hand with the technology itself. Despite the fact that this broadcast evolution started with audio transmitting, video enhancement was not far behind. In all likelihood no one could have anticipated the enormous popularity and exploitation the video broadcast would have. Audio and video is no longer brought to audiences in their inceptive form. The worldwide usage of internet, television, radio, computer and mobile phone, all of these gadgets represent fast growing and developing industries which have set the ground for the creation of a variety of new genres within the discourse of broadcast media. One of them is the discourse of television talk show.

Over the years the concept of talk show has not been invariant. Its structure and rules have acknowledged the society and changing environment.

People not only grew more interested in this format but also more invested in its content. The thesis aspires to look through selection of contemporary talk shows in North America. The aim is to investigate the conversational aspects of talk show speech as well as examine the tendencies and preferences towards spontaneous and more intimate approach to talk show communication.

Accordingly, the thesis concentrates on selected American talk shows currently broadcasted.

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1. Description of the Methods

The core intention of the thesis is to investigate aspects of talk show discourse in daytime and late night talk shows, and consequently determine spontaneity and intimacy in conversation and overall behavior. The thesis aims to find answers to these research questions:

1) Do hosts have a tendency to be informal and intimate?

2) Do late night talk shows incorporate more features of spontaneity and

familiarity than daytime talk shows?

Initial hypothesis suggests that the role of a host is no longer solely the one of an interviewer. As opposed to news interviews, where the focus is on the interviewee and high-quality questions entirely, talk show interviews seem to be growing more loose, informal, personal and interactive. As Ilie (2001) insinuates, talk shows are of semi-institutional nature which, among other conventions, suggests spontaneous interventions and unpredictable outcomes

(p. 218). Even though talk shows have always had the purpose to entertain and the outline is still extensively prewritten, the amount of unscripted speech and spontaneous interaction is growing.

The analysis uses linguistic concepts such as conversation analysis, structural analysis and social deixis. As a whole, the study is a qualitative research of spontaneity and intimacy directed at several aspects of interactional conversation and talk show discourse.

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1.1 Corpora Description

The subjects of analysis are episodes from four different American talk shows, which have been given priority because they are relatively new, they are fresh and popular among the masses of viewers. There is also the intent to accomplish a study on shows other than the researchers’ usual choices (The

Oprah Winfrey Show, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson or Late Show with

David Letterman). I have selected these particular episodes, because they have all been aired the same day, March 12th 2015, except for the episode of The

Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon (March 5th 2015) since no episode was aired March 12th. Nevertheless, they were aired within a few days radius. They are all American shows since it was not my intent to complicate the study because of cultural or linguistic differences between North America and United

Kingdom. The relevant distinction for the thesis is that two of the selected shows can be characterized as daytime and two as late night shows. There are two types of talk shows incorporated as the aim is to investigate contemporary tendencies of talk shows and thereafter be able to determine, whether they are evolving in the same direction. Accordingly, the aggregated corpus of this study is rather small. As a result it is insufficient for any generalizations possibly drown from the conclusions. Because of that, the study employs in qualitative rather than quantitative research which makes use of approaches such as observation and description of selected characteristics.

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2. Media Discourse

Scholars are required to distinguish between the concept of ‘discourse’ without an article that “refers to language use […], a piece of text, an instance of discursive practice, and an instance of social practice" (Ilie, 2001, p. 213).

On the other hand, the term 'a discourse' with an article “refers to a relatively discrete subset of a whole language used for specific social or institutional purposes” (p. 213). In contrast, Fairclough divides the meaning of discourse into three levels.

- In an abstract sense, discourse refers to ‘language use as social

practice’.

- Secondly, discourse is understood as the ‘kind of language used

within a specific field’, such as political or scientific discourse.

- Thirdly, in the most concrete usage, discourse is used as a count

noun […] referring to a ‘way of speaking which gives meaning to

experiences from a particular perspective’ (cited from: Jorgensten &

Phillips, 2002, p. 66-67).

Discourse does not have one strict specific definition. It connects to the manner in which individuals and groups communicate. More specific definition can refer to the systems of thoughts and beliefs that determine how individuals understand and interpret the world. If perceived in the broader sense, media discourse includes various channels such as newspapers and magazines, television, radio, and the Internet. Jorgensen & Phillips (2002) understand discourse as “the general idea that language is structured according to different

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patterns that people’s utterances follow when they take part in different domains of social life” (p. 1).

O’Keeffe (2011) focuses specifically on media discourse and suggests it

“refers to interactions that take place through a broadcast platform, whether spoken or written, in which the discourse is oriented to a non-present reader, listener or viewer” (p. 441). However, with creation and growing popularity of

Facebook, Twitter, Instagram or YouTube which have become essential elements of talk shows, non-present audience is more involved in the interaction. Talbot (2007) expresses an intention to take the definition of media discourse to the next level when she suggests that “media discourse circulates in and across institutions and it is deeply embedded in the daily life and daily interaction of almost everyone (p. 5). The connection between media and everyday life is undeniably more intense nowadays than it has been before, whether or not the focus is on work environment or personal life. The growing need for constant renewal of information at one’s disposal has undeniably contributed to the scholarly attention media discourse has been getting.

Since the focus of this thesis is television talk, it is important to remember its three distinguishing key features as Hutchby (2006) identifies them. Firstly, he claims that “broadcast talk adopts elements of everyday conversation as part of its overarching ethos”. Secondly, the author declares broadcast talk is different from “ordinary conversation by virtue of being an institutional form of discourse that exists at the interface between public and private domains of life”. At last he refers to broadcast talk as a “specific type of institutional discourse because it is directed at an ‘overhearing’ audience

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separated from the talk’s site of production by space and also, frequently, by time” (p. 18). Hutchby is not the only scholar who takes note of the overhearing audience phenomenon. Tolson (2006) points out “there is a difference between the intended recipient and the ‘eavesdropper’ to an exchange between others” (p. 45). In a basic structure, the roles of sender and receiver travel between the host and a guest whilst the audience functions as an eavesdropper.

Talk shows identify with characteristics of more than one genre and are therefore considered to be of mixed type. Ilie (2001) points out, that properties

“of a talk show, as a mixed type of media discourse, are less easily definable in strictly linguistic terms” (p. 210) which might implicate in challenging identification of their distinctive features. Ordinary talk is no longer the exclusive area of interest in the field of conversational analysis.

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3. Talk Show

Defining talk show as genre has proved to be quite difficult thanks to the problems with identifying crucial components due to the heterogeneity of existing shapes (Vallet, Essid, Carrive & Richard 2011). Nevertheless there are some elements which tend to repeat and as a result are considered typical for a talk show.

3.1 Talk Show vs. Television Talk

Before we begin any kind of discussion, it is crucial to realize that there is actually a distinction between ‘television talk’ and ‘talk show’. Talk show is only one of the forms how talk on television can be realized. “Television talk represents all the unscripted forms of conversation and direct address to the audience that have been present on television since the beginning [while] it is almost always anchored or framed by an announcer or host figure, and may be defined […] as ‘fresh talk’, that is, talk that appears to be generated word by word and in a spontaneous manner” (cited from: Timberg & Ehler, 2002, p. 3).

Even though some shows might appear as hectic and disorganized, one must not be inclined to think they are without any structural organization. Talk shows take “place in ritualized encounters and what the viewer sees and hears on the air has been shaped by writers, producers, stage managers and technical crews and tailored to the talk formulas of television” (The Museum of Broadcast

Communications, 2015). Each episode is the result of enormous amount of work hours.

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Because of the competition in media business, television is constantly looking for new programs yet creation of unique original genres is limited.

Logically, “genre boundaries are fuzzy and evolving, resulting in diverse genre overlaps and subtypes” (Livingstone & Lunt, 2002, p. 37). To a random observer it might seem as if there is a profound similarity with everyday speech. However, as Tolson (2001) points out, talk shows are programs that are “carefully researched, produced and to some extend pre-scripted” (p. 72).

As mentioned before, overhearing audience is inseparable feature of talk show and so “televisuality works as the production constraint that most characterizes the talk show as a specialized form of interaction” (p. 72).

Apart from the common examples of talk shows oriented on news, politics or entertainment, there are other TV formats that feature talk segments such as “game shows, dating or relationship shows, simulated legal encounters or shows that are essentially elaborate versions of practical jokes” (The

Museum of Broadcast Communications, 2015). However, none of these are labelled as ‘talk shows’.

3.2 Historical development

This section presents a few facts about gradual development of talk shows. Talk show can be understood as a concept which originates in a very old form of communication, conversation, and takes it to another level. This form of information and entertainment is low cost and highly popular (Timberg

& Erler, 2002, p.2-5). The evolution of talk show was not sudden, it has been slowly developing over a period of approximately forty years. The influence

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came from television practice and radio talk show traditions, as well as

Chautauqua, vaudeville and popular theater. It would be possible to describe

Chautauqua as an adult education movement. Vaudeville on the other hand refers to a performance consisting of several separate acts.

Tradition of daytime talk shows began with Phil Donahue in 1967, while late night shows (Murrow, Allen) were broadcasted almost a decade earlier

(Lovisi, 2013, p. 104). Despite the fact that the aggregated amount of television viewers decreased during the 1980s, “talk shows were one form of programming that continued to expand on the networks and in syndication”

(The Museum of Broadcast Communications, 2015).

Throughout the years the phenomenon of human speech enhanced into the ability to produce conversation have fascinated not only linguists but other scholars as well. Several organizations were founded in order to establish a place to meet for an intelligent and fruitful discussion. These places existed in many European countries while they were given various names such as academy, salon, coffee-house, assembly or club (Ilie, 2001, p. 214). Nowadays, these discussions are often conducted in talk shows. Every now and then the public can be easily influenced so the question is, which topics should be brought up in talk shows and to what extent? Particularly day time talk shows are invested in highly personal and often controversial situations that interrelate to complex controversial problems. For all that some are alarmed that “the programs may be trivializing ‘real’ politics by promoting irrational, victimized and anomalous individuals as representative of the citizenry” (Shattuc, 1999,

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p.169). Still it is beneficial to be aware of extreme examples as well as the mild average possibilities.

British equivalent of talk show is called ‘chat show’ and as Scannell points out “there has been a significant shift in the communicative ethos of broadcasting from an earlier authoritarian model to a more populist and democratic manner and style" (cited from: Ilie, 2001, p. 10). As already mentioned before, according to air time talk shows can be divided into three categories: early morning, daytime and late night show.

3.3 Late Night Talk Show Format

It is no surprise that talk show hosts play very important role in constructing ‘personality’ of the show. Representative example of such influence is The Tonight Show, which premiered in 1954 with Steve Allen as its first host.

Even though the show was able to maintain a distinctive format and style throughout its airing, each successive host (Ernie Kovacs, Jack Paar, Johnny

Carson, Jay Leno and Jimmy Fallon) brought some significant change to the project (Timberg, 2002, p. 45). These are all men and according to contemporary broadcast supply, male hosts are still dominant in late night shows. Nonetheless, women do have their own programs. As a matter of fact

Joan Rivers, who is the first woman to host a national late-night talk show, has started out as a guest host for Jimmy Carson from 1983 to 1986 (Hilmes, 2013, p. 312).

Late night discussions can be constructed similarly to those of hard news with serious informative content, which can be standardly “built around an

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expert panel, a panel and news figure, a magazine format for a single topic, a magazine format that deals with multiple topics, or a one-on-one host/guest interview” (The Museum of Broadcast Communications, 2015). The notable difference is that late night talk shows do not ordinarily include an expert panel.

That said, it does not mean experts in particular field cannot be a guest in such talk show, it only means the purpose of the appearance would not be to provide their professional opinion. Late night entertainment talk show grew rapidly in popularity among viewers during its first four decades on the air, probably because of their dynamic structure as we can see combinations of

“host/announcer with comedy sketches, musical performances, dance, monologues and satiric banter” (Hilmes, 2013, p. 96).

3.4 Daytime Talk Show Format

Daytime talk shows are described by Tolson (2001) as programs “where ordinary people are gathered to discuss in serious, often tragic and intimate tones, ‘social’ issues related to the personal sphere” (p. 34). The Today Show is perceived as a “standard for morning and daytime television talk” (Roman,

2005, p. 208). Daytime talk show have gained enormous popularity in America mostly because “broadcast dialogue triggers self-reflective thoughts in the audience about their own feelings and attitudes, such as anger, hope, fear, inhibition” (Ilie, 2001, p. 216). The host should be able to induce strong emotions, for instance by challenging opinions or by in-depth discussion about ethics, values, morality, religion or any other controversial topic. Interpersonal stories of daytime talk shows serve to “sensationalize the extraordinary aspects

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of ordinary life through the sex-and-violence formula that dominates the commodities of popular culture” (Rothe, 2011, p. 56). Such topics induce excitement and interest via providing certain level of shock. Garson (2011) explains, that “daytime shows privilege ordinary people over experts, because their stories and exchanges are more personal and emotional” (p. 109), which is what the audience has grown used to. Oprah Winfrey stands out among all the other announcers of syndicated daytime talk program incurred by her personal investment in the interviews. Since 1986 when the show started,

Winfrey has managed to become the first woman to own and produce her own television talk show (Roman, 2005, p. 209).

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4. Conversation Analysis and Talk Show Features

Even though there are various approaches to spoken discourse

(Matheson, 2005; van Dijk, 1988) which all have their specific ideas, this thesis leans primarily against Conversation Analysis. This concept suggests that “we are not programmed, or conditioned, to act in socially acceptable ways; rather social actors have their own understanding of what counts as social appropriate, and they find ways of checking these out against the perceptions of fellow actors” (Tolson, 2006, p. 25). Hutchby (2006) declares that conversation analysis is “the most appropriate method for analyzing [broadcast] talk because it explicitly uses the structures and patterns of ordinary conversation as a comparative basis for understanding other, more specialized or institutional forms of talk” (p. 15). In many occasions, media talk uses structures and features that are considered to pertain to ordinary conversation.

Nevertheless, Tolson (2006) warns it is not ‘ordinary conversation’ in the exerted sense (p. 28).

4.1 Institutional vs. Non-institutional Talk

It has already been suggested that talk show discourse is a mixture of characteristics of higher or lower importance which can be detected in other types of broadcast discourse such as information and entertainment, news interview, debate, therapy session, classroom dialogue, celebrity interviews or casual conversation (Ilie, 2001, p. 216). The definition of conversational talk has been provided above, yet for further analysis an explanation of the term

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institutional talk is essential as well. Heritage (1997, p. 4) distinguishes between three basic elements of institutional talk:

1) The interaction normally involves the participants in specific goal

orientations that are tied to their institution relevant identities: doctor

and patient, teacher and student, bride and groom, and so on.

2) The interaction involves special constraints on what will be treated as

allowable contributions to the business at hand.

3) The interaction is associated with inferential frameworks and

procedures that are particular to specific institutional contexts.

These attributes combined with the features of ordinary talk create a mixture of characteristics that together formulate the discourse of talk show. Since talk shows have so much in common with natural casual conversation, they are not

“strictly information-focused and do not claim maximum objectivity and impartiality […] of both the questioner and the respondent (Ilie, 2001, p. 217).

The discursive frame of talk shows bears certain similarities of debate programs, while at the same time the show host can be seen to act as a therapist, by listening, asking for advice and offering advice on his/her own account. Even though “discourse practices may be defined […] as the regular sequential arrangement of recognizably similar discourse acts to serve institutionalized communicative purposes” (Montgomery, 2007, p. 25), it is not possible to accurately define structure of a talk show. Consequently, the host is expected to switch between several roles apart from their original one as a moderator to the roles of entertainer, moralizer, adviser, therapist, arbiter and interlocutor (Ilie, 2001, p. 219).

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4.2 Spontaneous Talk

“Spontaneous talk may occur on and off in semi-institutional discourse and conversation-like dialogue may occasionally take place between the show host and one of the show guests” (Ilie, 2001, p. 220). It may probably be induced by a personal opinion or disagreement with the problem discussed. At the same time, the host forgets about his audience in the studio and at home and instead engages in conversation with more personal investment. Bill Maher, creator of the show Politically Incorrect produced the show, because he believed scripted late-night talk shows were fake and so he advocated for producing shows “in which guests would interact with each other, and that interaction would be based on things in life that actually matter” (Jones, 2005, p. 167).

One of the responsibilities of a host is to function as an interviewer and interrogator. Hence for such intentions questions are necessary. Over the years it has become more feasible to improvise during the interview, to insert questions that were not prepared beforehand and stir the conversation in lots of different directions.

“Talk show is expected to take place in a particular setting [...] while addressing a multiple audience, and discursively to comply with several talk- related restrictions: time restrictions, speaker-selection restrictions, and turn- taking restrictions (Ilie, 2001, p. 222). Similar boundaries apply to the act of greeting and introduction as well as the act of closing the show.

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4.3 Conversation vs. Talk Show Structure

It is necessary to differentiate between structure of conversation and structure of talk show. Linguists claim that every conversation act bears the three constitutional elements: opening, body and closing. Schegloff’s (1968) input on openings has proved to be fundamental even for other scholars’ research. In his early work he proposed that “the summons-answer sequence is the first sequence in an episode of interaction, preceding even greetings, for it is by way of summons-answer sequence that an interlocutor is recruited for participation in the interaction”. This sequence represents the need for both participants to be aware of the upcoming interaction. Hence the speakers need to secure the attention of their co-speakers which is usually done by properly directing their gaze (Schegloff, 2007, p. 48).

When it comes to closing element, the host should be able to manipulate audience in order to help him/her reach set goal. It is for instance possible to

“terminate a speech event with a thank you” followed by a full name of the guest. The issuance of the guest’s full name in this manner functions as an applause-eliciting device (Martínez, 2003, p. 288). Applause is used to express a whole range of emotions, yet as a part of closing act, the intent is to express thanks for the most part. Presumably, 63 percent of the interviewees returned the thanksgiving to the interviewer (p. 289). The act of closing a conversation is as much an important part of a talk show as an opening. Requirements for necessary information provided in closing segment are usually similar in all sorts of broadcast interviews.

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The structure of a talk show episode is differently arranged. There is still opening as well as closing segment, yet at the same time it is possible to break an episode down into structural units. These units can be divided off into content, punctuation and location elements (Vallet et al., 2011, p. 12). The content elements can be further split into talk, performance and inserts elements, nevertheless, that does not automatically mean there are strict boundaries. “Performances sometimes start before the host has finished announcing it; a guest may be asked to comment the insert being shown on the screen, etc.” (Vallet et al., 2011, p. 10).

4.4 Interaction and Turn Taking

If participants in regular conversation respect the rules of turn-taking the interaction flows quite effortlessly. The structure of any genre within media discourse is dependent on discourse acts that contribute to the flow of conversation because they “do not take part in isolation but as a part of chains of action in which individual acts are shaped in the light of the preceding or succeeding acts, [as in] questions set up implications for answers, jokes anticipate laughter, headlines introduce bulletins” and so on (Montgomery,

2007, p. 24). “Turn taking is considered to be one of a number of communication mechanisms […] operating in face-to-face interaction.”

(Duncan, 1972, p. 284) Linguists acknowledge two types of questions: institutionally framed questions and conversationally framed questions.

“Conversationally framed questions are not necessarily followed by answers,

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institutionally framed questions represent more often than not the first element of question-answer adjacency pairs” (Ilie, 2001, p. 221).

The basic idea of turn-taking is fairly obvious as the participants alternate throughout the duration of speech. However, it should be remembered that this mutual accomplishment is not under any circumstances neat and tidy (Tolson, 2006, p. 29). Primary rule of turn taking is ‘one party talking at a time’. The system of turn-taking might be violated by the participants functioning as interviewees who “sometimes proceed to attack the presuppositions of the question, or attempt to shift the topical agenda” (p. 30).

Host is not the only one who could initiate a turn in the topic. One may also come across situations when the guest is able to initiate a change in the topic, so the authority of the host is not unwavering. Interruptions are more salient for the hosts. Guests are rarely inclined to jump into a middle of a sentence, as it is the host’s task to unsettle the guests in order to make the program more interesting for the audience. Nevertheless, host sometimes

“interrupts the show guests due to time and/or agenda constraints, but also for argumentative purposes” (Ilie, 2001, p. 228). Phrases suggesting interruptions might be meta-discursive such as ‘if I may interrupt’. Another possibility is to choose discursive signalization by making use of repetitions. One might associate the term interruption strictly with a negative meaning, as in interrupt to reestablish direction of the talk or to cut the participant of in order to maintain the prescribed time restrictions. Yet the interruptions may occur so as to support and encourage the speaking process of a participant.

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Kendon (1990) sees accompaniment signals as “the short utterances that the listener produces as an accompaniment to the speaker, when the speaker is speaking at length” (p. 72). The author also identifies attention and assenting signals. The former include utterances such as ‘yes’, ‘I see’ or ‘surely’. The latter need to deliver a consent or permission from the listener to continue with expressing his thoughts (p. 73). Later on, Clancy (1996) summed up the various types of reactive tokens, which will be discussed later on, while also suggesting the distinction of lexical and non-lexical forms of tokens. For example the non-lexical forms include body language, facial expressions and nodding. Lambertz (2011) in his study proposes that it is possible to investigate

“three different functions of back‐channeling through the use of yeah and mm: continuers, alignment tokens and agreement tokens” (p. 13). In any case, the use of feedback utterances provide means to express interest and politeness.

4.5 Expressing Intimacy and Politeness

Politeness and intimacy between speakers can be expressed via several communication channels. Their behavior, body language and following the etiquette for instance represent few possibilities how to pass along those messages. Later on, this thesis takes interest in ways one can take advantage of language to convey respect or familiarity with someone. Social deixis is the part of linguistics dedicated to investigating such phenomena of language.

In general, “deictic expressions are those expressions of a language which in some way are dependent upon or related to the situation of the encoder” (Rauh, 1983, p. 10). So taking this piece of information into

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consideration, there are several areas where the study of deixis can be pursued. Linguists often use Lyons’ definition of deixis as the most accurate one. He states that “by deixis is meant the location and identification of persons, objects, events, processes, and activities being talked about, or referred to in relation to spatiotemporal context created and sustained by the act of utterance and the participation in it” (Lyons, 1977, p. 637). Accordingly, we distinguish deixis of person, place and time.

Discourse and social deixis are sometimes referred to as part of modern linguistics, originally brought to attention by Fillmore (1971, 1975). The first one can be also referred to as text deixis since it focuses on expressions used in discourse (Dylgjeri & Kazazi, 2013, p. 94). On the other hand, social deixis

“concerns the encoding of social distinctions that are relative to participant roles, particularly aspects of the social relationship holding between speaker and addressee(s) or speaker and some referent” (Levinson, 1983, p. 63).

Relationships that are usually encoded not only in English but other languages as well might be characterized as relational or absolute. Relational indicate some kind of status difference or connection between speaker and other participants. Whereas absolute social information is relevant for the speaker himself (Levinson, 1979, p. 207).

The thesis is mostly focused on the interconnection between social deixis and rhetorical authority, because success of any rhetorical conduct, regardless how grand, depends on speaker’s authority. Webber (1947) distinguished among several types of authority a person may dispatch. However, his categories seem obsolete, reflecting the twentieth century reality, so we will

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adopt the changes Li (2015) has made for the purposes of his paper. He constricts the classification to 1) traditional moral authority 2) charismatic authority 3) bureaucratic authority and professional authority (p. 132).

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5. Aspects of Structural Arrangement

5.1 Studio Setting Description

The following chapter provides an insight into the visual frame of the shows, the way each studio is constructed and situated. Special attention is given to the atmosphere and emotions studios themselves evoke in guests as well as in the audience.

5.1.1 The Talk

First of the selected daytime shows is The Talk. The studio is constructed as one big open space similar to a living room, with shelves and decorations along the walls to enhance this concept. Library situated in the background together with the imitation of French windows amplify the coziness of the space. High structured columns lighted with yellow and red are not the standard decoration. The stage slightly changes for each episode to reflect on particular guests. This episode ends with a musical segment which is why the set is rock themed with an elevated stage incorporated. An oval dining table is permanent item on stage set close to the audience. There are five chairs originally, intended for hosts to face the audience at all times. Some researchers might suggest that it is rather a French custom as in majority of

American talk shows the host sits behind a large desk (Vallet et al., 2011, p. 4).

The colorful, dynamic and cheerful stage is used to insinuate and promote episode’s topics. Positioning of the table creates illusion of a hostess welcoming you-the audience into her home to sit down for a coffee and chat with friends

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about news of the day. Use of carpet is a clever detail to create cozy homelike atmosphere. The audience is perceived as one of the women at the table. Also, the hosts come out on stage from behind a white glass double-door as if just from another room in the house. Peculiarly, members of the audience are usually dressed in a variety of bright single colored clothes which raises the question whether the producers make it a rule or the audience initiates it itself.

5.1.2 The Ellen DeGeneres Show

In case of Ellen Show, stage, logo, graphics and every other component is in arranged to be in harmony of blue and white tones. Green plants, orchids and wooden installations on stage create an open terrace illusion, typical for the

California climate. There are two white armchairs for the host and the guest in the center of the set. They face slightly towards each other so that the guest, the host and the audience are all included in the ongoing conversation. As opposed to The Talk, Ellen’s musical guest perform initially on a set hidden behind an enormous rolling doors.

5.1.3 Jimmy Kimmel Live!

The first thing to observe is the dim lighting and dark colors, whether it is the black floor, dark blue light panels, dark grey curtains of the host’s entrance area, dark wood of the seating area or the shot of night time Los

Angeles in the background. The show has a constant live band which is situated on the right side of the stage. Jimmy Kimmel as a host has a ‘sidekick’

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Guillermo who helps him with some of the comedic monologues. As opposed to daytime shows mentioned above the dress code is smart implicating an elegant event.

The seating area consists of grey sofa which is in one line with massive office desk. Kimmel uses higher set black leather office chair to support the illusion of superior influence over the interview.

5.1.4 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

The setting of Fallon’s show is also rather dim using dark shades and materials, black glossy floor, dark wood paneling and elevated areas on each side of the stage. The one colored element are blue curtains covering the entrance. The studio is quite small and intimate. A house band The Roots is a constant stage occupant as well as Kimmel’s sidekick and announcer Steve

Higgins. The band is on the right side of the stage and the interviewing area is on the left, while the host and guests make entrance through the middle. There is an empty stage left for the sketches, games, music performances etc. There is a miniature of New York carved out of wood behind the seating area. Fallon sits behind a wooden panel that cannot be referred to as desk exactly.

Paragraphs above support the notion that stage designers are obligated to take the air time into account and modify the setting accordingly. Different air times mean different audiences. Hence a successful marketing strategy requires clear definition and understanding of target audience. Put in marketing terms, it could hardly be omitted that gender, age, education or social status of

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target audience constitute as crucial information towards building an appealing set. It is impossible to define a target group with clear boarders which is why the marketers direct their attention to the heavy user. Having the Pareto principle in mind implying that 20 percent of the audience corresponds to 80 percent of the consumption, studio design as well as air time need to be coordinated with preferences of the heavy user (Kelley & Jugenheimer, 2008, p.

62).

5.2 Chronological Structure of the Episodes

Daytime Shows TT ES Welcoming Punctuation Announcement Punctuation introduction Comments & discussion on topic n. Talk Opening monologue Performance 1 Comments & Comments on the discussion on topic n. Talk Talk current news 2 Comments & Contest in a Insert (Outside discussion on topic n. Talk supermarket p. 1 location) 3 Comments & discussion on topic n. Talk Interview Talk 4 Cards against Interview n. 1 Talk Performance humanity Musical performance Interview n. 2 Talk Performance host n. 2 Musical performance Performance Class superlatives Talk Contest in the Insert (Outside Closing lines Punctuation supermarket p. 2 location) Closing lines Punctuation Table 1: Structure of ‘The Talk’ and ‘Ellen Show’ episodes

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Late Night Shows JKL TTSSJF Announcement Punctuation Announcement Punctuation

Opening monologue Performance Opening monologue Performance Insert Lie witness news (Outside Music pass-over Punctuation location) Introducing topics Mean tweets Insert Talk discussion

Interview n. 1 Talk Tonight’s Show #s Insert

Interview n. 2 Talk Interview n. 1 Talk

Movie extract Insert Movie trailer Insert

Interview n.2 Talk Interview. 1 Talk

Movie trailer Insert Musical beers game Performance

Interview n. 2 Talk Interview n. 2 Talk

Musical performance Closing lines Talk Performance host n. 3

Closing lines Punctuation Table 2: Structure of ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live’ and ‘The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon’ episodes

As it has already been mentioned, it is tricky to establish exact definition and compulsory elements of talk show. The term polymorphic applies as ‘talk shows are usually built as a succession of interviews, musical passages, TV reports, film excerpts, jingles, etc.’ (Vallet et al., 2011, p.5). Table above chronologically summarizes all segments that appear in the episodes employing the Vallet’s categorization. It demonstrates that all shows, except for TT, start with voiceover announcement during the initial graphics, providing information about the name of the show, its host, guests for the particular episode as well

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as city from where the program is broadcasted. Seeing that some talk shows for instance Late Show with David Letterman tend to travel among various cities, hence sometimes it is obligatory to mention particular location. Then the

‘plot’ moves to brief welcoming and thanking the audience succeeded by hosts’ monologues (ES, JKL, and TTSSJF). The late night shows’ are based on current events, whereas Ellen’s starts with summer time change but incorporates her wife and domestic habits. One can observe that the episodes employ in distinct tactics to attract viewers’ interest. Even though each episode structure is flexible, these “programs share the particularity of being structured around natural conversation” (Vallet et al., 2011, p.6). TEDS and TTSSJF prefer to mix up the interactive games with actual interviews and so change the pace. The episode of JK’s show is a specific example because of Barack Obama’s visit.

Nevertheless, Kimmel presents the two segments before the interview itself.

Both segments are pre-recorded, which is another sign that the show is not broadcasted live. TT conducts an order where current events are not presented via humorous monologue rather the hosts themselves discuss mostly entertainment news and provide subjective opinions. Interviews come afterwards, right before the final segment. We can see that all talk shows incorporate a musical performance, ED and JF at the end, ED in the middle of the show and JK does not have such segment broadcasted because the time is devoted to Obama, even though according to promo advertisements it was planned.

Vallet at al. (2011) claims that structural elements of a talk show can be divided into three generic units: content, punctuation and location. The authors

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distinguish between inside and outside location. The corpora provides two examples of outside location. The episode of ES uses life footage from Target supermarket for the contest segment and JKL uses a prerecorded Lie Witness

News segment where Kimmel’s colleague enquires about made up news on the streets of Los Angeles.

Punctuation is to be understood as pieces of applause, laughter, jingles and commercials. They are widely used in each show to separate the elements from one another. Vallet et al. (2011) see applause and laughter as natural delimiters that come quite spontaneously and so are rarely artificially invoked.

In spite of that, after Ellen’s entrance, she does hint on producers’ directing audience’s initial applause.

Ext. 1 (ES): 9 [ED] I’m surprised you have a (3) surprised you have any vocal cords left with the noises you were making when you were (.) there was noise and dancing all at once that was a lot of energy they were asking you to (.) [into camera] good for you Tom hm .hh

At the same time the authors regard jingles and commercials as tools to separate and shift between parts of the show. They suggest it is the host who is responsible for the primary semiotic demarcation while all the other punctuation elements are only used to emphasize or put into perspective the information provided by speakers.

However, the core of any talk show are generic content units. Obviously the content is not a cluster of homogeneously presented information. Hence basic division on talk, performance and inserts seems relevant. So to follow the lineup summarized in the table above there are some similarities as well as

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some distinctions. The episodes all start with visual inserts announcing main topics. Except for TT, they continue with an opening monologue afterwards which is also considered a performance element. In TT the initial monologue other hosts often do is replaced by a group discussion of current events. The episode of JKL is special because of president Obama being the guest. They do two insert segments one based on him (Lie Witness News) and the other one featuring him (Mean Tweets). Ellen and Fallon also include game elements which are defined as performance content units. Musical performances seem to function as the big finish, however, it is not become an absolute rule. In TEDS there are two more segments following the musical performance.

5.3 Content Units

5.3.1 The Talk: Thomas Lennon, Elisabeth Hurley, Fall Out Boy

Thomas Lennon was invited to TT with the purpose to promote his new series The Odd Couple. Interestingly enough, he as a co-host for the day does not get to comment on his show as much as one might expect. The promotion is taken care of by host Julie Chen during Lennon’s introduction. News of the week include Pharrell Williams’ lawsuit because of his megahit song ‘Happy’ and its resemblance of Marvin Gaye’s work. The following discussion gradually moves to the problem of show business rip offs in general. They also take notice of the Gaye family and gay people sounding the same, yet it is not further developed as Julie Chen continues to the second topic prepared which is the relationship between the Kardashians and Bruce Jenner. After the break,

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The Odd Couple is promoted again by playing a clip from that night’s episode.

The third suggested topic concentrating on paparazzi harassing children of celebrities is picked up again after another segment as part of interview with

Elizabeth Hurley. However, there is a brief change of focus to Tina Knowles’ figure.

Ext. 2 (TT): [GH] I think there is an elephant in the room that we’re not addressing which is that Tina Knowles’ boobs look amazing (.) they look slammin’

Apparently, Lennon as guest host makes digressions from the prepared topic- line which judging by the hosts’ reactions seem spontaneous, even though he has a notes-card before him. Therefore one might speculate whether the others are acquainted with his comments beforehand or not.

The episode moves to the swatting issue that has grown popular in the

States (falsely reporting an ongoing critical incident) introduced by Big Boy, a radio host. After discussing the paparazzi, Underwood starts about Osbourne’s wedding gift to Hurley. Then they discuss the nude scene in Austin Powers movie, $80.000 paid for her kiss, and Hugh Grant. Even though Hurley does not answer the question directly, the topic stays unchanged. Another break is followed by several questions connected to her show The Royals and the eight- year period when she did not work. The last interview with Fall Out Boy precedes their performance and concentrates on success, children and their songs being played during sports games.

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5.3.2 Ellen: cast of Glee, Ne-Yo

Ellen begins the show with comedic monologue about people watching

TV shows on Netflix, followed by second one based on the affair around Hilary

Clinton using her personal email address for government business, and the third one about March being the month of women’s history. She then introduces the contest starting in Target supermarket after the break. Main interview is with the cast of Glee who discuss shooting the show’s last episode, their deceased co-star Cory Monteith, Lea Michelle’s new project, and if they stole something from the set. Then the show proceeds to Cards Against

Humanity game and Ne-Yo’s performance. There is virtually no interview with him at all. Ellen only promotes his new album. Afterwards the cast of Glee plays

Class Superlatives game and there is another segment of Target competition.

To sum up, neither the guests nor Ellen try to change the scripted topic sequence, propose another one or somehow stray from the scripted ones.

However, the problem that occurs is that the cast of Glee tend to forget about the host and make excessive contributions to one question.

5.3.3 Jimmy Kimmel Live: Barack Obama, Sean Penn

Kimmel arranges the entire initial monologue on President Obama visiting the show (republicans, TV show Scandal, security, fundraising).

Kimmel’s usual segment Lie Witness News, where people in the streets are asked about made up current events, focuses on Obama as well as the segment called Mean Tweets. The interview includes discussion about twitter

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and the latest smart phone technology. Accordingly, they also brush up on the

Clinton’s email address incident.

Ext. 3 (JKL): 105 [JK] Do you have Hilary Clinton’s new email address? [BO] e::h I can’t share it with you, [but I don’t think she’d want you to have= [JK] [heh hhhhh [BO] =it frankly [JK] she specifically [mentioned that? She don’t want me to have it? [BO] [She specifically said, she said you know what, you’re going on Kimmel, if he asks for the email address (.) no way

Then the focus shifts to Obama’s daughters, his speech and opinions on future of civil rights and the Ferguson incident. After break the conversation returns to lighter topics such as Area 51, Obama’s domestic habits, things he cannot do, even the absurdity of receipt length. After another commercial lighter topics are once again switched for a serious one such as the voting habits of US citizens that with the host’s help evolves into discussion about

Student Aid Bill of Rights they are introducing. They keep alternating between lighter and serious topics so the talk skips to Penn’s movie The Fast Times at

Richmond High, South by Southwest Festival and Obama’s relationship with

Kanye West.

The second interview is with Sean Penn with whom Kimmel discusses background checks, Tom Cruise’s first time in LA, double date with Mike Tyson, his movie The Fast Times at Richmond High and the new movie The Gunman.

Here Penn manages to shift the focus from his muscular figure to reality show

The Bachelor. The interview ends with comments about The Last Face, new film he directs.

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5.3.4 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon: Hugh Jackman, Tiffani

Thiessen, Hozier

As in examples above, Jimmy Fallon starts similarly with an entertaining monologue based on current events. He conveys his point not only verbally, but on top of that he acts certain parts out. The segment covers weather, Obama

Care, Hilary Clinton becoming a president, Kim Kardashian as guest editor of

People magazine, cooperation between Russia and China, contact lenses’ technology, and airlines being green. In the next part of the show Kimmel and his announcer Higgins talk about the guests to come. One of the regular games on The Tonight Show is to set a topic for the viewers to tweet about, which for this particular episode is #SpringBreakRaps. The Roots help Fallon make it more interesting by transforming the tweets into song verses. Hugh Jackman’s interview starts with a promo of his new movies Chappie and Pan. After warm welcoming the conversation turns to cigars after Fallon shows Jackman’s cover photo and later he incorporates a funny story about Schwarzenegger and cigars. Then he needs to compose himself to get back to Chappie discussing co- star Sigourney Weaver and Hugh’s haircut which digresses them to Hugh’s wife for a while. After Fallon proposes to wear mullet wigs, the atmosphere transforms as they struggle to keep straight faces. Eventually, they get into a series of jokes and comments in between laughing. Next part is the game

Musical Beers. Because of the obvious pregnancy, interview with Tiffani

Thiessen focuses on her children at first, then Fallon brings up their Saved by the Bell sketch on Saturday Night Live. The reason for Thiessen’s appearance is her new cooking show. Hozier’s contribution is limited to his performance.

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5.4 Punctuation units

This chapter takes a look at the manner in which guests of particular episode are introduced. There is a difference between a voiceover announcement with visual inserts and initial monologue of the host which usually includes the welcoming lines.

5.4.1 Announcement

Announcements from Ext. 4 and 5 are intended for distant as well as present audience. While the viewer at home sees the graphics, people in the studio can see the announcer. Ext. 4 from ES is however prerecorded with pieces of show incorporated in the visuals which indicates it is intended specifically for distant audience watching at home. The purpose of these lines is to get and hold audience’s attention. The announcements seem to be institutionalized parts of talk show speech. The reason why TT does not engage in such practices may be the fact that there are multiple hosts each day, consequently the announcing segment might be too long and purposeless.

Ext. 4 (ES): 1 [VO] Glee is coming to an end (.) but today the cast is coming to Ellen [audio ext.] secrets will be revealed [audio ext.] plus Ne-Yo performs, and attention shoppers! Ellen’s giving away thousands [audio ext.] all starting right now (11) here she is now, ELLEN DEGENERES

Ext. 5 (JKL): 1 [DB] From Hollywoo::d it’s Jimmy Kimmel Live, tonight President Barack Obama and Sean Penn with >Cleto and the Cletones< and now, take it easy, here (.) Jimmy (.) KIMME::::::L

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Ext. 6 (TTSSJF): 1 [SH] From Studio 6B in Rockefeller Centre in the heart of New York City it’s The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon (2.5) tonight joined Jimmy as guests Hugh Jackman, Tiffani Thiessen, musical guest Hozier and featuring >the legendary Roots crew< [two two four Chicago::::::] and now (.) here he is (.) Jimmy:::::: Fallo::::::n

5.4.2 Opening Lines

Ext. 7 (TT): 1 [JC] Hello everyone and welcome to The Talk. Joining us at the table is the funny and charming star from the hit CBS show The Odd Couple Thomas Lennon (.) welcome welcome

As observed in the section above, there are some institutionally determined parts of talk show speech such as welcoming and thanking. These lines do not represent any spontaneous activity and since the vocabulary for expressing gratitude is quite limited, there is scarcely anything original about them. Yet a slight difference is detected in Ext. 4 from TT. While the first lines of other shows are parts of monotonous thanking for attending the program, in

TT a fairly uncomplicated clear utterances are used. At the same time JC introduces the guest host right away which we may presume would be otherwise incorporated in the missing announcement.

Ext. 8 (ES): 7 [ED] [blows a kiss] Hi hi thank you very much thank you (.) thank you very much (8) thank you so much (.) back at you (.) have a seat (.) >thanks so much right back at you I appreciate it<

Ext. 9 (JKL): 3 [JK] >Hi I’m Jimmy I’m the host of the show thank you for watching< (.) thank you for coming

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Ext. 10 (TTSSJF): 5 [JF] Welcome welcome everyone thank you very much (.) thank you HEY (.) thank you very very much. Thank you very much, thank you thank you very very much. Oh thank you (5.5) thank you thank you thank you very much (2) welcome to:: The Tonight Show everybody thank you for being here oh my goodness

5.4.3 Closing

Ext. 11 (TT): 180 [JC] Before we say goodbye we wanna thank Thomas Lennon for co-hosting with us today and be sure to watch him tonight on The Odd Couple at 8:30 right here on CBS. Now closing out the show with their hit My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark which you can see in its entirety on thetalk.com, put your hands in the air and give it up for Fall Out Boy.

Ext. 12 (ES): 248 [ED] I wanna thank Lea Michele, Chris Colfer, Jenna Ushkowitz, Chord Overstreet, Darren Criss, Ne-Yo and Juicy-J > [waves to the camera] see you tomorrow< ( )

Ext. 13 (JKL): 434 [JK] It was very good to see you, thank you for coming >movie’s called The Gunman go see it it opens on March 20th< Sean Penn everybody thanks Sean, thanks to president Obama Nightline is next thanks for watching goodnight.

Ext. 14 (TTSSJF): 453 [JF] My guests were Hugh Jackman, Tiffani Thiessen, Chris Hemsworth, Colin Jost, Kate McKinnen, Bobby Moynihan, Hozie:::r (2.5) and The Roof right there >Ladies and Gentleman< (.) Stay tuned for Late Night with Seth Meyers thank you for watching, have a great night, I hope to see you tomorrow bye-bye everybody

Common features of closing lines include thanking to each guest combined with the promotional purposes for next program or the following

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episode. The extracts show tendency towards simple sentences with the intention to be as time-saving as possible. Hosts are aware of the time frame restrictions and they try to use minimal amount of words. They do not utter complicated and formal sentences. Usually the final lines coincide with the music and captions playing on the screen. For example Ellen’s closing line is barely comprehensible. However, in TT the speech is relaxed and polite, it is evidently different. Fact is, farewell speech is offered before the musical performance and risk of finishing mid-sentence is not that high.

5.4.4 Commercial Break

The examples demonstrate that it is obvious that the phrase ‘we’ll be right back’ is used in majority of commercial break introductions. Fallon also used another phrase ‘Tiffani Thiessen will join us after the break’. This formulation is not as definite which provides the opportunity to add information about Thiessen being in the green room. ‘We’ll be right back’ sounds finite and does not allow the other participants to contribute before the break.

Ext. 15 (TT): 80 [JC] Much much more with the gorgeous Elizabeth Hurley when we come right back 134 Elizabeth Hurley everybody (.) The Royals premiers this Sunday night at 10 o’clock on E. we’ll be right back

Ext. 16 (ES): 222 [ED] That’s how you play that game and >WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK< EVERYBODY 225 [crouches next to Ne-Yo] the name of the CD is Non-fiction everyone in the audience will get their copy we’ll be right back

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Ext. 17 (JKL): 163 [JK] The President of the United States is here, we’ll be right back. 296 We’ll be right back with Sean Penn. 394 Sea::n Penn is with us his movie’s called The Gunman we’ll be right back

Ext. 18 (TTSSJF): 178 [JF] stick around, we’ll be right back with Hugh JACKMA:::N 323 more of Hugh Jackman when we come back >in a minute< Chappi:::e 346 Tiffani Thiessen will join us after the break >till then she’s in the x-box< green roo:::m 452 YEAH (.) pick up his tough title on EP in stores right now, we’ll be right back everybody

The enormous growth of the whole media business, resulted in more frequent commercial break. They are especially lucrative during the broadcast of several programs with high television ratings, for instance the Super Bowl.

Because of the high volume of commercial brakes, the range of phrases used for introducing them is quite limited.

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6. Aspects of Interaction

Heritage, Schegloff, Sachs and Jefferson are names one must be familiar with when studying the concept of conversation analysis. These linguists are responsible for promoting said approach to oral conversation. Within conversation analysis, talk show structure can be investigated from two aspects. Global aspect includes opening, body and closing process already discussed in previous chapter in reference to punctuation units. Heritage (1992) claims that most interactions share similar structural features, at least the basic ones such as opening, body and closing. However, it cannot be forgotten that

“within the body of an ordinary conversation, matters are comparatively fluid and free to vary with the inclinations of the participants” (p.120). Local aspect focuses on adjacency pairs, turn-taking, feedback etc. which will be discussed in pages below.

6.1 Turn-taking (claiming, holding, yielding)

Turn-taking is the basic attribute of conversation. Turn as such is specified as a group of “continuous utterances with communicative function by a speaker within a certain period of time [whereas] end of the turn is marked by role change between speaker and listener or by signals of giving up the turn such as two parties’ silence” (Kong & Ting, 2014, p.38). Accordingly the elementary turn-taking sequence between two speakers (A, B) is A-B-A-B and so on. Since it is host’s responsibility to navigate through the conversation, he/she needs to know how to claim, hold and yield a turn.

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To claim a turn means to obtain the floor so that other speakers are silent. To hold it means to express oneself in such manner so that others understand the turn is not finished. Lastly, to yield a turn simply means to give it up so that another speaker can claim it. Hosts in each if the episodes studied has shown variable approach to turn-taking. It might be attributed to different types of guests rather than to a type of show or hosts’ habits.

In ES, there is of course occurrence of the basic pattern. Nevertheless,

Ellen has invited several actors from Glee (TV show). Later on the audience realizes they act as if they have forgotten they are on the set of a TV show.

Host is excluded from conversation and so in order to move on with the interview she has to blatantly step in. First she expresses her opinion as if making a conclusion after the topic and immediately proposes another one.

Ext. 19 (ES): 99 [ED] Well maybe you’ll do that [then. So so how was the last day was it was= [JU] [yeah hhhhh [ED] =its was it sa- well it had to be sad

Ext. 20 (ES): 121 [ED] That’s hilarious tha- but that’s they were trying to get you to cry didn’t you cried too much (.) then you you >cried way too much<

When claiming a turn, Ellen tends to begin with conjunctions and interjections such as cause, because, and, so or well. In line 134 she pauses after the conjunction and eh holding the turn, indicating she is not yet done with the thought, but she needs to pause to formulate it appropriately.

In TT there is a slightly different strategy as the participants tend to wait until the speaker has finished a turn which indicates quite regular A-B-A-B exchange. EH mostly takes her turn by starting her speech with well. 39

Ext. 21 (TT): 26 [EH] Well I I think 45 Right well you are 51 Well sort of horrific 87 Well it’s a fictitious 100 Well I think 107 Well you never seen 130 Well obviously

In JKL the host is usually more interruptive as we can see in his interview with Sean Penn since he asks subsidiary questions as well as reacts on what SP has said. However, with Obama such an approach is employed only when discussing his domestic habits, children and driving. Other than that they alternate turns steadily waiting for the speaker to yield a turn. Kimmel often repeats the answer to claim a turn whereas Obama starts his answers with you know.

Ext. 22 (JKL): 183 [BO] I mean I could, I I don’t. [JK] You don’t. [no] Is there someone in the kitchen=

Ext. 23 (JKL): 353 [SP] That’s true. [JK] That is true (3) that’s the best double date I ever heard of

Host of the last show has in general an easygoing loose manner of speaking and he likes to jump in, collaborate and provide feedback a lot, which results in active, dynamic conversation. Interview with Hugh Jackman starts with several question-answer adjacency pairs. In line 227 HJ takes the turn, when the host makes a pause to intake a breath and lick his lips, to ask supplementing question even though the story was not finished yet.

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Ext. 24 (TTSSJF): 225 [JF] =rero:ll the ciga:r no:w you licked it so much [German accent] [oh man oh] but then eventually [yeah don’t lick it [HJ] [was it just the two of you?

As the turns are fairly long during the conversation, participants try to hold a turn in order to decide how to continue coherently. Sometimes the guest is able to step into the role of interviewer. We can observe such transformation only in the late night shows. Not every question aimed at host can be considered a reversal of roles, in fact we see this phenomenon only once on Kimmel, when

Obama enquires about the seating arrangement right away.

Ext. 25 (JKL): 83 [BO] How come you’re so much higher than me (.) is this

Fallon’s conversations are generally executed in looser manner. Corpus at hand insinuates that interviews on TTSSJF are carried out as ordinary conversations with friends. Jackman assumes the role of interviewer when

Kimmel shares the story of how he smoked cigar with Schwarzenegger and also when they’re equally contributing on mullets.

Ext. 26 (TTSSJF): 219 [HJ] Oh you’re >really meant to lick it

Thiessen takes on the role for a little while by asking if Kimmel cooks at all. Spontaneity of such actions goes hand in hand with the overall atmosphere and language use in particular show.

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6.2 Feedback and Interruptions

Examining feedback expressions is part of local structure analysis. Even though feedback utterances essentially disturb the current speaker, at the same time they encourage and support him. The listener does not intend to take the floor by producing such comments, so the feedback expressions are in fact welcome. Substantially, they are “the brief response from the listener to the speaker’s utterance which intends to encourage the speaker to continue his/her turn” (Kong & Su, 2014, p. 38).

Some of Clancy’s (1996) work is dedicated to inquiry into reactive tokens in English, Chinese and Mandarin. He ultimately distinguishes several types of reactive tokens such as backchannels (hm, huh, oh, uh huh), reactive expressions (really, yeah, ok, sure, all right, man), collaborative finishers

(listener finishes speakers utterance), repetitions (listener repeats part of speakers speech) and resumptive openers (p. 359-364).

For the purposes of this thesis we will concentrate on the occurrence of

‘yeah’ in the interviews. It can be labeled as a popular word amongst our generation, commonly used in various forms of communication. We often come across it on the internet, it is even part of non-English speakers’ everyday vocabulary. According to the figures derived from the transcriptions, ‘yeah’ has been used in TT the least and in TTSSJF the most. After considering the estimated number of words used during each of the interviews it is possible to declare approximate percentages corresponding to each guest, as summarized in the diagram below.

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Table 3: Percentage of ‘yeah’ usage in the interviews

The table shows that each interaction is specific and the occurrence depends on the nature of relationship between host and the guest. ‘Yeah’ is used only scarcely (0.55%) during Obama’s interview whilst JF and both his guests incorporate it in their speech considerably more (2.28%, 1.86%).

In one of her papers, Lambertz (2011) focuses on the application of

‘yeah’ and ‘mm’ in spoken language. She claims that they express three different listener’s intentions by conveying functions of a continuer, alignment tokens or agreement (p. 13-15). Although such functions can be identified, examples are frequently ambiguous and so from different points of view they might be inclined to various functions. Participants in the interviews at hand usually incorporate ‘yeah’ as alignment token which means that apart from consenting with the speaker’s opinion, the listener provides more relevant information or in some way further develops original utterance.

Ext. 27: 106 [LM] >yeah well< JENNA and I always cry 309 [JK] yeah well, WELL the fact that you’re here maybe no maybe:: eh 279 [JF] yeah we should go, we should go to like a cigar roo:m (.) like a secret cigar room

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Interestingly enough, during the interview with BO, reactive tokens are seldom used. Yet while interviewing SP, Kimmel indulges into more dynamic and collaborating conversation hence the host makes use of reactive tokens considerably more.

However, TTSSJF stands out amongst the shows not only due to the amount of ‘yeah’ in his interviews but also because in majority of cases they function as continuers. It could be argued that there is a connection between this phenomenon and hosts’ interrogating styles. When we take a look at ED, we can consider the interview to be out of ordinary in that she usually has one or two celebrity guests at a time, which makes it less challenging to follow what everyone is saying. It also gives her an opportunity to inset jokes, sarcastic comments, tease the guests and overall externalize her personality. But here she talks to five people at the same time whilst simultaneously, they tend to exclude her and slip into a private conversation. As a result ED just sets to go through her scripted questions and lets the interview to play out on its own.

On TT, there is a reversed situation with four or five hosts and one guest yet the number of reactive expression ‘yeah’ is still lower because the participants are not disruptive. They wait until the speaker is finished and the turn is yielded to them. Only then do they collaborate which reduces the number of feedback expressions.

On the ground of BO’s status as the President of the United States, JK is forced to hold back to a certain degree and let him communicate the important messages. However, such restriction is not expected from SP and so ‘yeah’ is used approximately four times more than during Obama’s interview.

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This brings us to TTSSJF where the participants know each other outside the show hence from the beginning there is no tension and they interact with each other effortlessly. There are no serious topics discussed ergo as long as

HJ’s new movie and TTh’s new cooking show are promoted, the interviews are not strictly set. They are active, full of energy, the participants are interested in the conversation hence providing a lot of encouragement via using ‘yeah’ as a continuer.

Ext. 28 (TTSSJF): 211 [JF] he loves cigars [yeah] >and so I said< 242 and what a close-up it was >I gotta say< [yeah] one of the best mullets 389 not only the title is genius [yeah] Di- Dinner at Tiffany’s

In regard to many different reactive tokens possible to apply, each episode in this study seems to have its preferred ones. There are lots of feedback words expressing agreement amongst the guests of ES such as ‘yeah’,

‘oh yeah’, ‘mm’. Borrowing Clancy’s (1996) terms, TT has mostly backchanneling sounds and reactive expressions ‘yeah’ and ‘right’. JKL also incorporates ‘right’ and on top of that the host often uses repetitions in order to advance to the next question. In TTSSJF repetitions are quite noticeable along with collaborative finishers, which means that participants often claim the turn by finishing speaker’s sentence. The situation might be referred to as simultaneous talk, which occurs when there is a misunderstanding in the turn yielding mechanism. Either the listener is trying to take the turn without a turn yielding signal or the signal is actually present but the speaker changes his mind and continues (Duncan, 1972, p. 286).

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As already mentioned above, reactive tokens are not meant to disrupt an ongoing speech. They are in fact meant to support the current speaker.

Nevertheless, there are situations when a listener wants to collaborate on the preceding utterance more extensively which results in disruption and claiming of the turn. For instance, ED has to interrupt in order to shorten the prolonged conversation due to inconsiderate guests.

Ext. 29 (ES): 212 [ED] well why wouldn’t you want those shorts [( )] those are fantastic [( )] all right [CO: no one else could fit them] well they’re adorable (.) ALL RIGHT we’re gonna take a break

Kimmel does not interrupt Obama while discussing serious topics, otherwise he jumps in with comments and jokes.

Ext. 30 (JKL): 114 [BO] THEY’RE DOIN’ all the stuff that teenagers are doing (.) [ehm= [JK] [oh boy [heh heh [BO] [=yeah

The example above demonstrates an interruption where the conversation continues as it has before, while ext. 52 shows a situation that pressures the speaker to disrupt his thoughts to pay attention to the host.

Ext. 31 (JKL): 144 [BO] >African-American’s< were being stopped, disproportionally, mainly so the city could raise money (.) eh even though eh these were unjust and eh [JK] I can’t imagine how frustrating that must be I me- I get crazy >and I’m not joking< about park- when I get like like parking tickets and I fe- feel unjust and eh

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6.3 Scripted vs. Unscripted Questions

This chapter focuses on types of questions occurring in studied talk shows. There is no doubt that majority of the questions here are scripted.

However, the unscripted ones are more purposeful for this theses and so the question is, which of the shows and which hosts are more flexible in this area?

6.3.1 The Talk

In daytime talk show TT, almost all questions are thoroughly prepared in advance. The whole episode consists of scripted questions, therefore the conversation takes place within strict boundaries. Each question needs to have a context provided.

Ext. 32 (TT): 50 [JC] >What was it like< shooting that sce::ne? 117 [TL] Were you surprised to (2.5) have such a huge part waiting for you? 153 [JC] >Pete how about for you? because you have a< six month old at home AND a six year old

Here are some examples of questions that do not request any information per se. They are meant to entertain and interestingly enough they are produced by the guest host TL and one example comes from SU. The humorous aspect is enhanced by the pauses they make afterwards, waiting for the audience to comprehend the jokes.

Ext. 33 (TT): 13 [TL] Who gets custody of the naked models and the goat? Does the Gaye estate get that? [TL] This is the first footage I’ve ever seen from the Kardashians, is it always THAT thrilling?

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[SU] >I just wanna know< how the hell they found Lil Wayne’s address?

6.3.2 Ellen Show

Ellen asks prepared questions (Ext. 34) as well, although lots of them are part of the second game cast has to play.

Ext. 34 (ES): 89 [ED] How long ago did you shoot the last one? 92 And so have you seen each other SINCE THEN? 185 And did you eh (.) steal anything from the set that you wanted to hold on to?

One of the specifics of Ellen’s interviewing style is that she sometimes expresses herself incoherently and it takes her some time to formulate the question correctly. It results in occurrence of prepared questions which seem incoherent and sudden.

Ext. 35 (ES): 99 [ED] So how was the last day was it was its was it sa- well it had to be sad 127 [ED] >because who’s been here f- who’s been< I’m sorry eh feels like everybody’s been there since the beginning but who’s been here

As opposed to the hosts in TT, Ellen incorporates some additional questions that build on previous answers that seem worth developing further.

Ext. 36 (ES): 95 [ED] But then there’s gonna be a time when you’re not gonna see each other >and that’s gonna be< tough right? 156 [ED] I’m sorry I’m going back to Carrot Top. Where when was Carrot Top on

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6.3.3 Jimmy Kimmel Live!

Interviews conducted by Kimmel provide material for demonstrating difference between personal questions and questions related to person’s profession or work. Conversation with Obama took up considerable portion of the episode. JK creates segments marked with commercial breaks. He converts between personal oriented questions (Ext. 37) and work-related ones (Ext. 38).

Ext. 37 (JKL): 94 [JK] Do you eve::r physically tweet yourself or >does somebody do that for youunderpants in the middle of the night< if you’re hungry 187 You’re allowed to go into the refrigerator on your own? 211 Do you reset the clocks with daylight saving time (.) happens? 325 He (Tom Cruise) said that when he:: flew to LA, for the FIRST TIME, you picked him up at the airport.

Ext. 38 (JKL): 244 [JK] You have Student Aid (.) Bill of Rights that’s something you’re very passionate about >because it wasn’t so long ago that you were still paying off your student loans 427 [JK] Hey you::a just directed a movie, Charlize is in it and your son Harper >is in it as well< WAS that a fun thing for you or was that?

Kimmel’s less strict concept of the show provides support during the process of turn-taking, when he asks unscripted questions based on the replies of the participants.

Ext. 39 (JKL): 107 [JK] She specifically mentioned that she did not want me to have it? 189 When was the last time you (.) you actually cooked? 194 Is that because you DON’T HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICCATE? 303 Did you talk to, the President at all?

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345 Lucille Ball was living there AT THE TIME? 366 Is that something that you encountered frequently?

6.3.4 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

The Tonight Show provided the possibility to search for questions, where the roles of interviewer and interviewee are reversed. In certain situations, the guest is able to take on the questioning, which is demonstrated by questions in

Ext. 40.

Ext. 40 (TTSSJF): 227 [HJ] Was it just the two of you? 246 Did you ever rock a mullet? 402 [TTh] Do you cook at all?

In a similar manner as Ellen, Fallon tends to interview in an enthusiastic, energetic, dynamic way. Apart from scripted questions, he also uses unfinished sentences. Even if that is not his intent, his guests feel comfortable enough to jump in or finish his sentences for him.

Ext. 41 (TTSSJF): 371 [JF] Did you get good feedback from (.) what we did (.) this Saturd- 436 So there’s >chocolate peanut butter< how do y-

Then there are utterances, where the inquiry is suggested by a pause or unfinished statement. Or we can also mention informative sentences, which if noted by the guest function as a question tool.

Ext. 42 (TTSSJF): 229 [JF] I gotta say (.) eh love Chappie, congratz on this, that’s the guy who did Division 311 It’s the first time heh a robot has AI [uhm] that could be huh (.) that could be smarter than human [yes] so Chappie becomes a

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7. Aspects of Intimacy and Politeness

This chapter investigates the level of politeness in interviews with regard to addressing system. Accordingly, the aim is to uncover the appliance of any kind of intimate talk whether it is in regard to topics discussed or language used. Social deixis is a pragmatic concept relevant for this task. Levinson

(1983) applies the term to those “aspects of language structure that encode the social identities of participants, or the social relationship between them, or between one of them and persons and entities referred to” (p. 89). Author also claims there are relationship dimensions encoded in language: relational and absolute. Relational usually get expressed through referent honorifics (speaker

& referent), addressee honorifics (speaker & addressee), bystander or audience honorifics (speaker & bystander) and formality levels (speaker & setting) (p. 90-

91). On the other hand, absolute social information encodes forms for authorized speakers and authorized recipients (Levinson, 1979, p. 207). The thesis will now contemplate the importance of rhetorical authority. As Li (2015) suggests, linguists have come to the conclusion that “social deixis is loaded with rhetorical authority, which delivers a kind of hidden coercion” (p. 131).

7.1 Greetings

The pattern of conversation between the interviewer and the interviewee seems to be obeyed in the interactions studied here. Greetings are automatically reciprocated. We can observe a range of different expressions fulfilling such role. The TT starts with a simple Welcome, welcome/Thank you very much exchange. Hurley is welcomed verbally as well (Welcome,

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Welcome/Thank you), however during her entering the stage she hugs each host and so the verbal welcoming stays brief and the interviewer instantly starts with the questions. In case of the performing artist, two members of Fall Out

Boy undergo a brief interview at the edge of stage prior to performing.

Greetings between them are skipped in favor of introduction to the audience.

Ellen hugs her guests as part of welcoming ritual as well, but uses much less formal expression Hi y’all/Hi. Episode of JKL indicates that Kimmel adopts a varied approach. To greet the President of the United States, he gets up to walk towards the guest, they shake hands, Obama touches Kimmel’s back and he responds with touching Obama’s hand. After sitting down, they start by praising the band. On the other hand, Penn’s greeting is more verbal as Kimmel only stands up during the entrance, not even a handshake takes place and they dive right into the interview.

Ext. 43 (JKL): 300 [JK] Thanks for coming (.) thanks for sli:ding over for the president tonight, I appreciate it

Fallon greets with Jackman in a manly, what seems more familiar manner by taking each other’s hands, bumping into each other and taping on shoulder. Then they continue with informal expressions sampled below.

Ext. 44 (TTSSJF): 183 [JK] my ma:n [HJ] it’s good to see you. [JF] Great to see you [thank you for coming back buddy [eh [HJ] [it’s good to see you too [HJ] [how is everything?

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By contrast the host behaves more gentlemanly towards Thiessen, he helps her up the stairs, kisses her on a cheek and they hug. There are no further pleasantries, they follow right through with the questions.

7.2 Addressing

“Social deixis, as an important symbol in public discourse, entails certain rhetorical authority and can be embodied in linguistic signal” (Li, 2015, p. 133), hence the speaker should always think about the level of authority he/she intends to communicate.

Li (2015) however also claims that in regard to social status, age or wealth, it is not a common practice for people in America to use such amount of honorific expressions as opposed to China for example (p. 134). In each show the host has a habit of addressing guests by their full names when talking to the audience. On the other hand, when addressing them directly they prefer to use first names only. Obama choses to call his wife by her given name rather than a kinship term as well.

Ext. 45 (JKL): 115 [BO] Eh Michelle (.) and I try to emphasize to them

Li (2015) mentions personal deixis (p. 134) which is called by Levinson

(1979) as relation between speaker and referent (p. 207). It is connected with the possibility to use two forms of singular ‘you’. As opposed to French,

German, Spanish or Slovak, English no longer attends to these practices.

Barack Obama is the only non-celebrity guest per se. The host addresses him according to his official post in the politics of United States. He is referred

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to as President Barack Obama, President of the United States, President of the

United States number 44 Barack Obama, the President, President Obama, while only once has he been called explicitly by his name (Barack Obama) with no additional information. All these versions of his title evoke strong sense of authority.

Another practice is to provide more information about the guest prior to their coming to the stage. So hosts tend to contribute by mentioning awards and other accomplishments of celebrity guests since to be labelled as an actor/singer/etc. in terms of occupational address forms does not seem to be sufficient. It helps the audience become aware of various levels of professionalism and success the person has achieved.

Ext. 46: 18 [SO] model and style icon 137 one of the most successful rock bands of the last decade 223 [ED] three time Grammy Award winning R&B superstar 297 [JK] might very well be the best actor there is, he’s a two-time Oscar winner and legitimate humanitarian 126 [JF] Grammy nominated >performer< 179 an Academy Award nominated actor

As a way of formal introduction or presentation of guests, Fallon uses the phrase Ladies and Gentlemen several times, which is meant to express his respect for the audience. It is used by Julie Chen in TT once (line 11), but with the intent to draw attention to the subject at hand. Otherwise, when talking directly to the audience, hosts frequently use everybody or everyone. They even decide to choose more familiar address you guys.

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Ext. 47: 26 [JK] you guys, who are here in the studio know that 8 [JF] you guys I hope everyone here in the audience is very comfortable

7.3 Subjective perceptions

There are essentially no compliments in the episode of ES which is quite strange as she is usually very expressive and warm about her feelings towards her guests. Perhaps that should ensure the viewer she is not blindly giving praise to everyone. Another possibility might be that she is generally very nice and forthcoming but excludes the people she does not appreciate.

Obama compliments the band for the song ‘Sweet Home in Chicago’, and he says ‘I do love his music’. It’s terrific.’ About Kanye West later in the interview. Fallon incorporates compliments very casually and quite often into his speech.

Ext. 48 (TTSSJF): 97 [JF] that’s the best idea I’ve ever hea:rd 188 that’s all we want, we want Hugh Jackman that’s what we want 398 I’m in love with your new show […] not only the title is genius 401 it’s BRILIANT I wish I THOUGHT of it 451 that’s how you do it right there buddy a:wesome

7.4 Private Life Stories

Personal stories and experiences of celebrities have become an important part of talk show interviews as people still hold interest in them. We could even say that with the expansion of Internet their appeal is bigger. Life of the

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famous may inevitably be more public, yet people address it as a bit mysterious unreachable dream. Accordingly, private moments do still pique an interest.

Hurley provides information about her son, wedding present form

Sharon, her best friend and ex-boyfriend Hugh Grant, childhood games with her brother and the time off she took to raise her son. We can also see their photo on the set of The Royals.

Ext. 49 (TT): 30 [EH] And I remember one day we were leaving the house and he was tiny and he picked up an umbrella (.) from the umbrella stand and it wasn’t raining >and I said< darling it’s not raining >he said< I’m gonna HIT THEM if they come near you

45 [EH] Right, well [o-oh] you are very kind and >you and your family gave us< a big bull for my farm [hhhhh] to go in with our lovely lady (.) cows and ehm (.) I’m afraid >we called him Ozzy<

The conversation with Fall Out Boy is considerably shorter. Nevertheless, one of the four questions required photo inserts and comments about their children.

ED often mentions her wife Portia in the show and the episode in this study is no exception. Both monologue segments at the beginning build on their private life. Obviously one cannot presume it is truth word by word, still Ellen’s private and work life are entangled.

Ext. 50 (ES): 17 [ED] So the other day Portia and I sat down to [shows an index finger] watch one episode of House of Cards (.) the key word being one

The cast of Glee stays on the topic of their last shooting day insofar, that their independent personal lives stay untouched except for the remark that Lea and Jenna did yoga together the day before.

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President Obama is asked about his children and social media. Even though it can be considered a personal topic, he answers in a vague manner since he cannot reveal anything substantial. Kimmel asks series of personal, but at the same time general questions about everyday life of the President to which Obama adopts similar attitude. On the other hand he elaborates with a short story about his prohibition to drive.

Ext. 51 (JKL): 196 [BO] A- actually the last time I drove ehm (.) a former staffer came by and and he comes through the the South lawn a:::nd he’s got eh (.) one of these eh new electric cars […] I just grabbed his keys and we just go out, it’s parked right in front and I start circling the South lawn (.) a::nd the Secret Service, they’re >No matter what you do, do not let him out< and the::y the- they were pretty upset.

Sean Penn, the second guest on JKL is a bit more open with personal experience and tells a story about how he took Tom Cruise to see Lucille Ball’s house, and one about him, Mike Tyson and their wives going to the cinema.

Although it needs to be pointed out that none of the stories is initiated by Penn himself as they have already been shared with the public by the other participants. Interestingly enough, unless it’s about The Gunman, none of

Penn’s stories are contemporary. The only new things we learn are that Penn watches The Bachelor and that his son can fly a helicopter (Ext. 52), but in all fairness those pieces of information cannot be called stories. He just used them as a diverting mechanism in order to stall the interview from going into areas he did not want to collaborate.

Ext. 52 (JKL): 431 [SP] a:nd >by the time he got to South Africa< he flew us to set

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Ext. 53 (TTSSJF): 206 [HJ] literally there, there is something about, I was every time I get in the elevator just because you could >I’m like< ‘I’m lighting it up [imitates smoking] in the elevator yeah and then everyone’s like cool dude awesome

As an extension to Jackman’s story, JK shares one about him and

Schwarzenegger at a cigar room in New York, though he ends it with a peculiar comment: And then I never saw him again. Maybe it was a dream, maybe it was a dream, which is confusing yet he leaves the thought open and does not contribute any more.

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8. Conclusion

The world of today, as we know it, is notably different form the one that was reality fifty or even twenty years ago. There is no doubt that in the next twenty years another great inventions will be created, new channels for communication will be developed. Yet already we have access to many possibilities how to connect with each other all over the world. These communication channels are being put to use in all areas of life. Leisure time activities are not an exception, therefore it should not be a surprise that media discourse prospers from them as well. Social media have enriched the talk show discourse. As a result, an audience is wider and what is more, it has been given the opportunity of real time participation. Consequently, the creators need to be more innovative and active to keep the viewers interested.

The aim of this thesis is to study the discourse of talk show interaction in order to determine the tendencies in daytime and late night talk show discourse. The crucial factor is the willingness of participants to encounter in spontaneous, intimate and familiar talk. Accordingly, the analysis comprises two examples of daytime (The Talk, The Ellen Show) and two late night (Jimmy

Kimmel Live, The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon) talk shows. In order to avoid the complications due to cultural and linguistic differences between several English speaking countries, we will concentrate solely on talk shows broadcasted in North America.

At this point I would like to summarize the findings of the research. At first we look upon the structural arrangement. It is important to remember that there is a difference between structure of a conversation and structure of an

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episode. An episode can be divided into content, punctuation and location elements. Our study shows that talk shows are polymorphic and even though the chronological structure does not need to be the same in each show, the components themselves are fairly similar. Content units include not only talk segments but also various game inserts that are popular in ES, JKL and TTSSJF.

The games relax atmosphere and allow host and the guest to let go, not to restrain them to follow scripts. Interestingly enough, JK alternates serious and personal questions. In TT, the main reasons for the hosts’ presence is discussed only towards the end of their reserved time. Punctuation units such as opening lines, closings and introduction of commercial breaks could be considered institutionalized features of talk show discourse. Analyzed episodes suggest usage of these phrases in habitual manner, while delivering the same kind of information. Openings tend to be dismembered and slightly incoherent due to feedback from audience, especially in ES and TTSSJF. Closings are short utterances bearing thanks, promotional messages and goodbyes. Overall, our corpus suggests that structural arrangement is not the place to be unprepared or spontaneous.

The study of interaction shows, that JF is the most pro-active when it comes to turn claiming, we even see reversal of roles when guest assumes the role of an interviewer for a while. Although ED also claims the turn quite often, she does so because of the time restrictions, otherwise her guests might continue their conversation without actually moving forward with the interview.

On the other hand, interviews in TT seem ordered as a result of participants waiting for the turn yielding. Feedback as a sign of interaction is provided

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mainly via the use of ‘yeah’ which is apparent the most in TTSSJF and the least in TT. However, it is remarkable that each show has its preferred approach to feedback. In ES we can find words like ‘yeah, oh yeah, hm’. People in TT use

‘yeah, right’ and various backchanneling sounds. JK prefers the word ‘right’ or repetition of the previous utterance. Finally participants in TTSSJF interviews repeat utterances, and we can see collaborative finishers too.

The analysis suggests that politeness concerning opening lines, closings, greetings and addressing system is not different between the two types of talk shows. None of the shows indicates extremely polite or formal approach. Their speech is polite, but at the same time informal with first-name-basis addressing and frequent expressing of gratitude towards guests. The rhetorical authority is especially attributed only to Barack Obama because of his professional and personal authority.

In case of daytime talk shows, there is a difference between TT, which in comparison with ES is considerably more formal. Its formality is demonstrated by strict following of scripted questions, relatively stative setting, and shortage of interactivity. At the same time, topics discussed are mostly personal, which may be because of close personal relationship between the guest and one of the hosts (EH and SO). On the other hand, the late night shows are less formal, because of their unrestricted conversations and entertainment games.

Informality can be also connected to the fact that late night shows do not try to provide a serious answer to contemporary problems and events.

Based on the observations made in this thesis, I have to conclude that late night talk shows manifest more spontaneous and informal aspects than

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daytime talk shows, whether it is in regard to aspects of interaction or familiarity. At the same time, the study suggests that Ellen Show has number of features otherwise attributed to late night shows in focus. Even though this thesis cannot be used as basis for generalized conclusions, it is safe to say that spontaneity in talk shows is pre-scripted considerably more than it may have originally seemed.

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Resumé in English

The aim of the diploma thesis is to investigate talk show discourse, particularly the aspects of conversation. The study examines the characteristics connected with spontaneity and intimacy of communication in selected present- day talk shows.

The analysis focuses on contemporary talk shows broadcasted in North

America. Corpus of the thesis consists of four episodes of four different talk shows. The Talk and The Ellen Show represent daytime talk shows, whereas

Jimmy Kimmel Live and The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon are defined as late night talk shows.

In the beginning, the thesis introduces theoretical background connected to the terms such as media discourse, talk show and conversation analysis.

Chapter 4 concentrates on some characteristics connected to talk show discourse. Chapters 5, 6 and 7 focus respectively on these three areas of aspects that are relevant for this study: aspects of structural arrangement, aspects of interaction and aspects of intimacy and politeness.

Furthermore, they encompass the concepts of global and local structure of conversation as well as rhetorical authority. Results of the research are presented in Chapter 8.

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Resumé in Czech

Cílem diplomové práce je prozkoumání analýzu diskurzu debatních pořadů, především aspekty konverzace. Studie zkoumá charakteristiky Cílem je zkoumat aspekty řeči ve vybraných debatních pořadech, které jsou spojeny se spontánností a intimitou řeči.

Analýza se zabývá současnými debatními pořady, které jsou vysílány ve

Spojených Státech Amerických. Výchozí materiály této analýzy zahrnují čtyři epizody čtyř různých debatních pořadů. The Talk a The Ellen Show reprezentují denní debatní pořady, zatímco Jimmy Kimmel Live a The Tonight Show Starring

Jimmy Fallon reprezentují skupinu nočních debatních pořadů.

Úvodní kapitoly se zabývají teorií odborné terminologie jako například diskurz médií, debatní pořad a konverzační analýza. Kapitola čtyři se pak věnuje některým vybraným charakteristikám, které souvisí s diskurzem debatních pořadů. Následující tři kapitoly zkoumají tyto tři skupiny aspektů relevantních pro tuto studii: aspekty strukturálního uspořádání, aspekty interakce, a aspekty intimity a zdvořilosti.

Kromě toho taky zahrnují koncepty globální a lokální struktury konverzace jako i řečnické autority. Výsledky analýzy jsou shrnuty v kapitole 8.

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Appendix 1:

Transcription signs (Tolson, 2006)

() If empty, indicates unclear portions of text.

[bold] Description of non-verbal behavior or visual information.

Back channel behavior which does not amount to a turn [ ] at talk.

(1,5) Length of pause in seconds.

( . ) Pause of less than .5 seconds.

Indicates the point at which overlap with another [ speaker begins.

word- Hyphen indicates word has been cut off sharply.

word Underlying indicates stress given to word or syllable.

sho::w Colons indicate lengthening of vowel sound.

. Terminal falling intonation.

, Brief pause (‘list’ intonation).

? Rising intonation.

! Excited intonation.

.hh Audible intake of breath.

hh Audible exhalation.

heh Laugh token.

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Appendix 2:

Ellen Show

Host: Ellen DeGeneres [ED], voiceover [VO] Guests: Darren Chriss [DC], Chris Colfer [CC], Lea Michele [LM], Chord Overstreet [CO], Jenna Ushkowitz [JU]

1 [VO] Glee is coming to an end but today the cast is coming to Ellen. [Did you steal anything from 2 the set? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. What did you take? Jane Lynch] Secrets will be revealed. 3 [Most likely to live on a nudist colony. Most likely to be arrested] Plus Ne-Yo performs. And 4 attention shoppers! Ellen’s giving away thousands. [That’s the spirit. Don’t give up.] All 5 starting right now. 6 Here she is now, Ellen DeGeneres. 7 [ED] Hi. Hi, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Back at 8 you. Have a seat. Thanks so much, right back at you, I appreciate it. I’m surprised you have a 9 surprised you have any vocal cords left with the noises you were making when you were. 10 There was noise and dancing all at once. That was a lot of energy they were asking you to … 11 good for you Tom. Oh boy I am I can’t figure out what’s going on. I think I’m not adjusted to 12 the daylight savings time, are you? Are you adjusted to it? I don’t think any, none, no one at 13 my house is. The cats aren’t used to it. They are sleeping 20 hours a day, usually they sleep 14 19 hours a day. I like the extra hour of light. I like that. When I get home I think, what am I 15 gonna do, because I wanna be active and I’m like I’m gonna do some gardening or I’m gonna 16 play tennis or I’m gonna go kayaking. Ehm, but I don’t do any of it and two words: Netflix. 17 Nothing, nothing. So the other day Portia and I sat down to watch one episode of House of 18 Cards, the key word being one. And I think you know how the story ends. The cause at the 19 end of the show the window pops up and it says next episode starts at 5, 4, 3 … 12 hours 20 later, we watched the entire season. Netflix don’t care if you have a job or a family. 21 Everything just immediately now, just moves to the next show. So I mean we could have 22 stopped it, but that would’ve involved pressing a button, so … neither of us were prepared to 23 do that. In the past it took so much more, if you wanted to watch TV there was effort 24 involved. You had to get up of the couch and you had to turn the dial or you had to adjust the 25 rabbitears, you had to put tin foil on that rabbitears and then I’d had to hold it like that for an 26 hour hours while my mother watched her stories. If you were to record the show, you that 27 took plenty in preparation. You’d have to leave work early, you’d rush home, you’d have to 28 find a tape like a blank tape. There was never a blank one, so you’d end up recording over 29 your brothers 12th birthday just so you can see an episode of Scarecrow and Mrs. King. I 30 know, it’s a random thing. I knew I was taking a chance on that one. But now, it’s almost

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31 impossible to miss your favorite TV show. It’s … if you miss it live, it’s on your DVR, if it’s not 32 on your DVR, it’s On demand, if it’s not On demand, it’s on Hulu, if it’s not on Hulu it’s on 33 Amazon, if it’s not on Amazon, then and only then should you read a book. I’m kidding, you 34 should find another show. What did we learn from all of this? Nothing, nothing at all. The 35 important thing is, no matter how many hours you spend on Netflix, always set aside just 36 enough time to dance, really. 37 [Dance session] 38 [ED] Thanks so much everybody, you know I don’t usually talk about politics, but Hilary Clinton has 39 been in the news lately. Apparently she used her personal email account for government 40 business and now she’s calling those emails out. She’s like she has nothing to hide and ehm I 41 have to say this story makes me wanna come clean. Sometimes I use my work email for 42 personal use I shouldn’t, I know I shouldn’t and I do and so I have nothing to hide I thought I 43 would share some of mine with you. This one is from me to Portia, the subject is ‘very 44 important’. Look at this video of a cat trying to open the door! Hahaha! That was such a cute 45 video. And then, here’s another one from me to Portia, its subject: ‘Urgent’. You have to see 46 this cat snuggling with a baby. And then I put a lot of emojis on there, that’s the, ends with 47 the thumbs up. Here’s one from me to Portia, it’s ‘Not a cat video’. This says Look at this 48 dog!!!! Now I want a beagle. And this is a really cute video so I I thought I can’t just talk 49 about it cause you’re wondering why would I want a beagle. Because, well I’ll show you why. 50 So the beagle wants to, the door is open, he’s just still confused. Come on, I want the toy and 51 then, ok I’ll go around and oh no it’s closed. All right I’m gonna go, I’m gonna bring it inside. 52 Ok. Just ca- no no. Oh I just, oh that tail is wagging so happy to have it in its mouth and it 53 can’t go inside, ou. Oh, all right, if I go in I’ll have better traction, I’m gonna pull with all my 54 might, yey. That’s the spirit, don’t give up. I found that on EllenTube, if you have something 55 eh that you want me to see eh, you should put it on EllenTube and if you have the app, this 56 week you can win tickets to one of our Twelve Days of Giveaway so I don’t know if you don’t 57 have the app, get it. Get it now. 58 So as you know March is women’s history month that’s right we have one whole month to 59 celebrate and then it’s back to eleven months of men. Women are responsible for a lot of 60 inventions, you may not know this but women invented beer and then men invented beer 61 commercials. Women also invented the windshield wipers and fire escapes and a lot of other 62 things and the people in the American Inventor’s Association which is a very very real 63 organization have put out this message celebrating women’s achievements. 64 [Video clip] 65 [ED] Women. I’m little surprised they used a male spokesperson but that’s all right. We have some 66 new inventions in the Ellen Shop, I wanna show you we have this cute little T-shirt right here 67 and eh it’s like you were almost like looking at my name through venetian blinds. So that’s 68 that’s the point of that. And then we have this sweatshirt right here which is cute and it says 69 ‘Have a little fun today’ which you can probably read for yourself, I don’t wanna condescend. 73

70 Eh we have a lot of other products, to go go to the Ellen Shop and check em out and there’s 71 another store that has everything that you need this spring, it’s called Target. They have got 72 summer style for the whole family, you can even shop online and then pick up your items at 73 Target on your way to the beach so today I’ve taken over a Target that’s pretty close to here 74 and let’s see if they can hear me right now. Attention, attention Target shoppers this is Ellen 75 DeGeneres, if you can hear me, raise your hand in the air. All right, wonderful. All right. 76 Listen. Raise your baby in the air if you can hear me. Listen, this is very important, listen 77 carefully. You’re gonna wanna stop what you’re doing everybody. Stop what you’re doing and 78 listen. Get ready, because when we come back, I’m gonna give away thousands of dollars, it’s 79 a scavenger hunt so start stretching, get ready to start running and finding things, thousands 80 of dollars will be given away. We’ll be right back after this. 81 [Scavenger hunt] 82 [ED] For the past six years our first guests have starred on the FOX’s hit show Glee, take a look. 83 It all ends next Friday, please welcome Lea Michele, Chris Colfer, Jenna Ushkowitz, Darren 84 Chriss and Chord Overstreet. 85 [ED] [Comfy] Waw, I was wondering if this was gonna fit everybody and it’s [yeah] [a little] very 86 small [it’s all right]. You’re all close anyway [hey, how are you doing?], you’re close friends, so 87 hi y’all. 88 [All] Hi. 89 [ED] So this is eh, you’re done right? You’ve already shot the last. How long ago did you shoot the 90 last one? 91 [All] Two weeks ago? Yeah 92 [ED] And so, have you seen each other since then? 93 [LM] I saw her yesterday [yeah] 94 [CO] Yeah, I feel like we’ve seen. I saw Chris and Darren, yeah 95 [ED] Couse you’re doing press for it, but then there’s gonna be a time you’re not gonna see each 96 other and that’s gonna be tough right? 97 [LM] We did yoga together yesterday. 98 [JU] Yeah, we ran into each other randomly [yeah] so I think that’s gonna happen. 99 [ED] Well maybe you’ll do that [JU: yeah] then. So how was the last one, was it was it was it sa 100 well it had to be sad. 101 [DC] Of course. I mean it was really cathartic. I mean there was … everyone was always like are 102 you gonna cry, are you gonna cry? [I know] It’s like of course. Of course you’re gonna cry. I 103 mean, I, there were moments where I didn’t feel the need to cry, but then everybody else 104 was and I felt like a jerk for not crying. And then I would join and I’d go, oh my God this feels 105 so good. Just to cry it out, it was so nice. 106 [LM] Yeah, well Jenna and I always cry [CO: Yeah, they were sobbing the whole time] Chord and 107 Chris never really cry so when you see them cry, then you…and Darren doesn’t cry either 108 [CO] I don’t know it was always Matt who got everybody to, it was the last take and then 74

109 [DC] we were watching Matt Morrison sing us all a song so we were very much in our own world 110 experiencing this and one take they pulled a fast one on us. They took Matt out of it and put 111 basically the entire [CO: yeah the whole crew] crew and production looking at us and we were 112 like come on 113 [JU] It’s as if you take every family member and friend [LM: yeah] that you ever loved and that 114 you had to say goodbye to and put them all in front of you 115 [LM] we cried so hard that they actually cut [yeah] and they were like we are so sorry cause 116 [DC] by the end of it Chord you were just cracking up 117 [CO] I was just hysterically laughing be- I cause you know we’re all like close to thirty playing high 118 school It was like [CC: speak for yourself] I mean but it was yeah those emotions were very 119 close 120 [DC] Yeah very close together yeah 121 [ED] That’s hilarious, but that’s they were trying to get you to cry but they just didn’t you cried too 122 much then you you cried way too much 123 [LM] then you ugly cry [All: yeah yeah we did that with the mascara] we are loud criers me and 124 Jenna, it was like our vocal cords we were like, i- it was definitely intense 125 [CC] I still can’t hear in this ear from you 126 [LM] Yeah sorry 127 [ED] Because who’s been here, who’s been, I’m sorry I feels like everybody’s been here since the 128 beginning but who’s been here 129 [DC] This is the original crew we’re the [JU: yeah the three of us LM: me, Jenna and Chris] we’re 130 the 131 [CC] and you guys were shortly after 132 [DC] shortly after yeah but eh I mean we’ve all been through so much together that it’s kind of just 133 blurs together when everybody joined or left you know 134 [ED] Well I can’t wait to see what happens and I assume and eh this is tough but there must be 135 some kind of homage to Cory Monteith I, right? 136 [CO] We had the last eh there’s a moment in the last episode that we eh that we had and then 137 obviously when we‘re at we all had a kind of took a moment to kind of 138 [All] yeah 139 [CC] he was there though we we could feel him [All: yeah] he was there so 140 [ED] I’m sure he was and you’ve had so many amazing guest stars you had like Christine 141 Chenoweth, Gwyneth Paltrow and Idina Menzel and Carol Burnett and eh Neil Patrick Harris, 142 Britney Spears, Kate Hudson, John Stamos [DC: wow when you say it like that, it’s crazy] 143 who’s who stands out as a favorite for y’all? 144 [CC] Oh my gosh it’s like 145 [JU] I feel like Christine was like very special cause she was the first one

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146 [LM] and Christine was definitely like a part of our cast [yeah] ehm she was such an important you 147 know character on the show, I for me I I love Kate, working with her and she became like my 148 family so 149 [CC] Shirley MacLaine, Carol Burnett 150 [LM] Carrot Top [CO: Ricky Martin] 151 [CC] Carrot Top when was Carrot Top on the show? 152 [LM] I worked with him 153 [CC] Oh you did? 154 [LM] yeah 155 [CD] this is just us time right now 156 [ED] I’m sorry I’m going back to Carrot Top. When was Carrot Top on the… 157 [LM] Carrot Top was when for Rachel Berry’s TV show That’s so Rachel. He was supposed to be 158 Arty and the 159 [ED] and and what was something that you did? You know cause Ryan got you all to do a lot of 160 things. What was eh did you ever say I’m not doing that or do something and go why 161 [CC] Don’t look at me [LM: I look at you] Oh gosh. I remember I one that comes to mind we were 162 doing the Rocky Horror Picture Show and and he really wanted me to be the Frank-N-Furter 163 and I said no I gotta be Riff-Raff so 164 [JU] I don’t really I didn’t feel like I’ve got a choice to say no they just said here you are this is 165 what you’re doing [LM: you got a lot of hard hits] I got a having to a j- like a fountain and it 166 was cold it was really really cold 167 [LM] I had to he asked me once [CO: I was a stripper] if I would heh yeah you did that. He asked 168 me once if I would dress up as a nun and I was like my Italian Cat- Roman Catholic family in 169 the Bronx would like not be happy about that so I didn’t do that and then towards the end the 170 slushies just were like [CC: oh yeah they were abusive] out of control, extra cold towards the 171 end or maybe we were just older and so 172 [CC] It’s cause our facelifts. 173 [ED] So these things that happened are you gonna well you’re moving you’re doing something else, 174 you’re doing a new show with Ryan. 175 [LM] I’m doing Scream Queens yeah 176 [ED] Are you gonna shoot that in New Orleans? 177 [LM] yes 178 [ED] Wow that’s gonna be great, 179 [LM] Uhm, I’m really excited and we start just in a couple of days. 180 [ED] And you’re bringing a bunch of the crew with you 181 [LM] The crew so that’s why the last night was a little easier for me and I know I’m gonna see 182 these guys like always but it’s like our crew is so much of like our family so having to say 183 goodbye to them was hard but knowing that you know that they would be on this next show 184 would be really easy. 76

185 [ED] And did you eh steal anything from the set that you wanted to [absolutely yeah] hold on to 186 [yes]? What did you take? 187 [CC] Jane Lynch 188 [LM] Yeah, she’s at your house. People were like looting, it was they were looting the set. If you I 189 was like walking to my trailer one and people were dashing out with things like stuck 190 underneath their jackets with like what? 191 [JU] I didn’t feel like I needed to take anything but there was one thing as I was walking to a choir 192 room and I saw it and I was like I should probably take this so that nobody ever sees it again 193 [CC: what was it? LM: that photo of you as Jem from Grease] there’s a photo of me as Jem 194 my my double chin is like at its most and best [DC: best beautiful], I mean I was like this and 195 it’s just a bad moment 196 [LM] There it is 197 [DC] There it is, oh my God, oh no, oh you poor thing 198 [JU] If anybody is having a bad day you can just look at that 199 [LM] We did, there were many days we looked at that photo, I’m glad you took that Jenna. 200 [CC] Yeah, burn that. 201 [JU] Yeah, now it’s in my house. 202 [ED] No one will ever see that. 203 [DC] They were they were really cool about us taking stuff, I mean I they let me take furniture like 204 I took Figgins’ couch which was this couch 205 [LM] You took that couch? 206 [DC] Yeah they let me they let me take it. That was where I slept like every day, it’s where we 207 used to hang out. So I have a new couch for my house. 208 [CO] I went back to wardrobe and stole the gold shorts I had to wear for Rocky Horror 209 [DC] my Wobblers blazer I took 210 [LM] I had a lot of I took a lot of my characters I took a lot my characters clothes too, oh yeah 211 those are the shorts 212 [ED] Well why wouldn’t you want those shorts, those are fantastic, all right, [CO: nobody else could 213 fit in them] well they’re adorable. All right, we’re gonna take a break. We’re gonna find out 214 how well you know each other and and what you think of each other after this. 215 [ED] We’re back with the cast of Glee and since you’re all here we thought it would be fun to play 216 one of our new favorite games, it’s called Cards Against Humanity. Here’s how it works. I’ve 217 picked a category, you have to pick the card and that’s in eh your hand that best completes 218 the thought. I’ll pick the answer that I think is best. If I pick your card, you get a point and 219 the person with the most points wins nothing, but you’ll win. [LM: ok] eh there’s absolutely no 220 gift ehm all right. Let’s see what the first one is. 221 [Cards Against Humanity Game] 222 [ED] That’s how you play that game and we’ll be right back everybody.

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223 Our next guest is a three time Grammy Award winning R&B superstar, here to perform his 224 latest hit She Knows. Please welcome Ne-Yo featuring Juicy-J. 225 [ED] The name of the CD is Non-fiction, everyone in the audience will get their copy. We’ll be right 226 back. 227 [ED] Waw, very cool. Ok, we’re back with the cast of Glee and we’re gonna play something called 228 class superlatives and eh so I’ll say something and you’ll write down the answer [ok, don’t 229 look at mine] and we’ll see if you all agree. Eh most likely to be caught sleeping on set. I think 230 I already know this. 231 [LM] Well, we have the same answer so, good thing. 232 [ED] Are we ready? Turn around. 233 [DC] Ok, all at the same time? 234 [LM] Yeah 235 [ED] You’re asleep right now? 236 [DC] I’m asleep right now. 237 [ED] You’re such a good actor. 238 [CO] I think my marker is a little 239 [ED] [Oh no] We’ll get you a new marker. Biggest life of the party? [CC: Oh] all right, ready? Turn 240 around. 241 [ED] Most likely to get arrested. […] The last three are good. Biggest flirt. […] This is a good one. 242 Most likely to live on a nudist colony. […] All right. Last one. Best person to be stranded on a 243 deserted island with. 244 [ED] Boo boo you can catch the last two episodes of Glee this Friday on FOX. We’ll be right back 245 everybody. 246 [2nd Scavenger hunt] 247 [ED] I want everyone here to get ready for the beach season so you’re all gonna get this one 248 hundred and fifty dollar Target gift card. I wanna thank Lea Michele, Chris Colfer, Jenna 249 Ushkowitz, Chord Overstreet, Darren Criss, Ne-Yo, Juicy-J. See you guys tomorrow. 250

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251 Jimmy Kimmel Live!

Host: Jimmy Kimmel [JK], announcer Dicky Barrett [DB], Guillermo [Gu] Guests: Barack Obama [BO], Sean Penn [SP]

1 [DB] From Hollywood. It’s Jimmy Kimmel Live. Tonight: President Barack Obama and Sean Penn 2 with Cleto and the Cletones. And now, take it easy, here, Jimmy Kimmel. 3 [JK] Hi I’m Jimmy. I’m the host of the show. Thank you for watching. Thank you for coming. And 4 I’ll say you’ve sure picked a great night to join us. We have quite a show for you tonight. The 5 leader of the free world and ( ) are here on the show tonight. Sean Penn is here to promote 6 his movie The Gunman, president Obama is here to promote a project he’s been working on 7 called the United States. Side reversed, we never had a sitting president on the show. We had 8 two former presidents, President Clinton and was Morgan Freeman president or was that a 9 Ok, we had one so this is two now. If you told me when I was like fourteen years old that one 10 day I would interview the president on TV, I, I woulda said: that’s great will I ever get to see 11 boobs? I was very single minded. You now, there’s been a thank you. There has been some 12 controversy surrounding Obama’s appearance on the show tonight. On Monday we announced 13 the president will be here. This morning I got a letter from 47 republicans telling me not to 14 sign any deals with him. So I guess that peace agreement with Matt Damon is off. The 15 republicans who signed that letter, they sent to Iran they were getting a lot of criticism 16 including the members of their own party. But here’s the thing. What are they supposed to 17 do? I the letter clearly said copy this letter and send it to nine enemy governments or bring 18 your country bad luck. They had no choi- you don’t mess with Saint Jude I think is what I’m 19 trying to say. It’s fitting that the president is here on Thursday, which is of course is Scandal 20 night here on ABC. I would show about the White House. But I I was on Scandal tonight. 21 They had me interviewing Fitz’s new vice president. I played myself. I really nailed it too, I 22 followed myself around for months. I wanted to learn everything about what makes me tick 23 and I did. I always wandered though, what it must be like when the President and the First 24 Lady watch Scandal together when like there’s a scene when Fitz cheats on his wife. Does the 25 president have to look at Michelle and go boo. I don’t like that at all. Security has been very 26 tight all day today. You guys who are here in the studio know that anything that could be 27 considered to be a weapon had to be left in plain sight for the Secret Service to examine, but 28 which, since this is LA, included gluten. We had pizza all over the place, but. It was serious. A 29 bomb sniffing dog came into my office today. For real, a Belgian Shepard named Pistol. Great 30 dog. He’s a very happy dog, he obviously has no idea what happens if he ever finds what he’s 31 looking for, but then do any of us really, I guess. Even Guillermo had to step up his security

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32 game today. Look at Guillermo, he’s, everything you look tough, you look serious. Is 33 everything secure? 34 [Gu] Hang on (into the speaker). Go for it. 35 [JK] Ok, go for it. What about the perimeter? Is the perimeter secure? 36 [Gu] Is the perimeter? [Into the speaker] Everythin’ is go for it Jimmy. 37 [JK] Ok. By the way, he’s not wearing those sunglasses because he’s with Secret Service, he’s 38 wearing them, because he’s hungover today. He’s with the Secret Surveisa. Part of the reason 39 why eh President Obama is here in town tonight is to do fundraising. You know he’s very 40 serious about helping Sasha and Malia selling all their Girl Scout cookies. The cost of 41 attendance at the DNC fundraiser Obama is going to later is 33,400 $ per couple for dinner 42 and that is with limited breadsticks. You know if the President really wants to raise some 43 money he should just throw on a superhero costume and take pictures with people in front of 44 the Chinese theater across the street, cause that’s where the money is. You know from time 45 to time, maybe once a week, we go out onto Hollywood Boulevard to ask people, regular 46 people passing by for their opinions on events that did not take place and since the President 47 is here, we decided to focus specifically on him. We send a camera crew out on the street 48 today, to ask pedestrians who claim to up on current events about a bunch of Obama related 49 news we made up. And this is a special presidential edition of Lie Witness News. 50 […] 51 [JK] True. It’s terrible, I didn’t even get the Obama’s a baby gift. By the way traffic here in LA is all 52 jammed up today and everyone in town is mad at me beca- because normally here in LA we 53 zip through traffic without any problem at all. Whenever President travels they have street 54 closures, they. They have to do that for security and of course it slows things down and it also 55 makes the guy near our office who rides his bike to work every day even more annoying than 56 he usually is and not just locally. Online, the people who already don’t like President are 57 criticizing him for coming here. President Bush would get the same thing when he did TV 58 shows, it’s the nature of the job I guess, especially now that we have Twitter, but I think it’s 59 important to remember that presidents are people too, and from time to time, we give 60 celebrities a chance to read some of the mean things people tweet about them. And tonight, 61 we extended that same courtesy to our Commander in Chief and with that said, it’s time now 62 for all President Obama edition of Mean Tweets. 63 [Mean Tweets] 64 [JK] Welcome. Hello everyone. Goodnight. I’m thrilled that he’s here with us. His new movie which 65 is called The Gunman opens next weekend and Sean Penn is here with us tonight. He is great. 66 By the way I would imagine next week all week long we will return to Austin Texas for the 67 South by Southwest Festival. The whole country if not the world will be focused on Austin. All 68 the new music, movies, technology it’s all there, that week but I go for the beef to be honest 69 with you. I go for the big smoker full of beef brisket. We’ll be live at the Long Center along 70 with Kevin Hart, Matthew McConaughey, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Brad Paisley, Tony Romo, 80

71 Spoon, Willie Nelson and we’ve just added none other than Kanye West to the line-up. We 72 had a great time there last year. I hope you will join us again for the shows this year. It’s 73 South by Kanye West this year. 74 Our first guest tonight made history by becoming the first Kenyan born Muslim socialist ever 75 elected to run this country and he flew here tonight on a really awesome plane. Please 76 welcome the President of the United States number forty-four, Barack Obama. 77 [BO] Thank you, thank you guys. [JK: very good song] Band’s having good. 78 [JK] Yeah, of course they’re good. 79 [BO] Absolutely. Thank you gentlemen. 80 [JK] We wanted to make you feel at home. How are you doing? How is it coming? 81 [BO] I feel good. 82 [JK] Thanks for being here. 83 [BO] How come you’re so much higher than me? Is this? [JK: well] He’s got a power play. [JK: 84 yeah, it does seem] Yeah. 85 [JK] It does seem particularly ridiculous right now. 86 [BO] It does, yeah. But that’s OK. I’m glad you feel good about yourself. 87 [JK] Well, maybe. Listen. If they legalize marijuana in Washington DC you can be higher than me. 88 How are you? Thank you for coming. 89 [BO] I feel good, thank you. 90 [JK] You did a great job with Mean Tweets by the way. 91 [BO] You know I have to say though, those weren’t that mean, I mean I’ve gotta tell you, you 92 should see what the Senate says about me. All the time. I mean that was, that was some 93 piker stuff. 94 [JK] Do you ever physically tweet yourself or does somebody do that for you? 95 [BO] I do not physically tweet in general. There, there are times where they eh I’m responding like 96 a particular issue, we’re trying to get something out you know, they get on there so that I’m 97 interacting with [JK: I see] young people or something like that, on a special event. Generally 98 speaking, I got some other stuff to do. 99 [JK] Do you text? 100 [BO] Eh, I don’t text, I email. I still have a Blackberry, because I can’t I, I, I eh 101 [JK] Hh, one guy random clapping 102 [BO] Hah, hah the one old guy there. Look at him. He’s he’s my age. He’s my age. Somebody my 103 generation. Eh eh ah we, we, I can’t use eh phones with recorders in them. So [JK: oh] a lot 104 of the newfangled stuff for security reasons I don’t get. 105 [JK] Do you have Hilary Clinton’s new email address? 106 [BO] Eh, I can’t share it with you. I don’t think she’d want you to have it, frankly. 107 [JK] Heh heh heh she specifically mentioned that [BO: She specifically said] She don’t want me to 108 have it? 109 [BO] She said, you know what, you’re going on Kimmel, if he asks for the email address. No way. 81

110 [JK] You have young kids and of course every parent has to talk to the kids about going on social 111 media, but you especially must have to say to your daughters, don’t go, don’t do anything 112 [JK: don’t] don’t post anything [JK: don’t do that] don’t ever do anything. 113 [BO] Don’t do that. I mean, look. They, they all have their smartphones and they’re texting with 114 their friends and they’re doing all the stuff that teenagers are doing, ehm [JK: oh boy]. Yeah. 115 Eh, Michelle and I try to emphasize to them that they don’t want to be a [in the news] on 116 TMZ. 117 [JK] Yeah, right. Yeah, ri- I would imagine so. By the way, speaking of the news, I did wanna 118 mention something to you. Last night, very late for you in Washington DC, in Ferguson, two 119 police officers were shot. Thank goodness to [Thankfully they’re ok] to, they’re at home now, 120 they’re out of the hospital. And especially, you get beautiful speech in Selma last Saturday ab- 121 talking about these very subjects, about Civil Rights, the past, the present, the future of Civil 122 Rights. Is is that make it especially painful for you when something like this happens? 123 [BO] Obviously we don’t yet know what happened. Our thoughts and prayers are with the officers 124 and with their families and thankfully as you said they’re gonna be ok. Ehm, what was 125 beautiful about Selma was reminding ourselves that real social change in this country so often 126 has happened because ordinary people are willing in a nonviolent fashion to make their voices 127 heard. And you know I think that what it have been happening in Ferguson was oppressive 128 and objectionable and was worthy of protest, but there was no excuse for criminal acts and 129 and whoever fired those shots ehm should detract from the issue, they’re criminals, they need 130 to be arrested and then what we need to do is to make sure that likeminded good-spirited 131 people on both sides, law enforcement who have a terrifically tough job and people who 132 understandably don’t wanna be stopped and harassed just because of their race that we’re 133 able to work together to try to come up with a some some good answers. And I think I put 134 together a task force after the original Ferguson event had taken place that had police 135 officers, police chiefs and some of the organizers of protests both in Ferguson and in New 136 York, young people. And they came up with some terrific recommendations and found that 137 there is a lot of common ground. And what we had to make of is that the folks who disregard 138 and disrespect eh the other side, people who resort to violence that they marginalized and 139 [JK] They set us all back. They do, yeah. 140 [BO] They do. And but, but they’re not the majority. And and in the same way that you can’t 141 generalize eh about police officers who do an extraordinarily tough job, overwhelmingly, they 142 do it professionally. You can’t generalize about protesters who it turns out had some very 143 legitimate grievances that Justice Department report show that they were being stopped, 144 African-Americans were being stopped disproportionally mainly so the city could raise money 145 even though eh these were unjust and eh 146 [JK] I can’t imagine how frustrating that must be. I’m I get crazy and I’m not joking about pa- , 147 when I get like like parking tickets I, I feel feel unjust and to be put in a situation like that I

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226 [BO] We’re back with the president. Sean Penn is still to come. I know you’re here in town partially 227 asking people for money which seems like you should stop doing, you’re only here another 228 two years 229 [BO] You know it’s [JK: who cares] it is not for me 230 [JK] I know it’s not for you, even more reason not to do it. 231 [BO] The you know we we gotta keep folks going ehm there’s gonna be another election and the 232 main purpose really is just to make sure that people turn up. I mean the last election we had 233 about a third of eligible voters voting and just trying to work harder to figure out how we can 234 get people engaged. 235 [JK] We had an election here in LA last week I think and something like 8 percent of the registered 236 voters voted in it. 237 [BO] Well then I talked about this eh this weekend in Selma. You know you have folks who risk 238 their lives to make sure we all had the right the vote. And we give away our power all the 239 time and you know everybody is so frustrated with Washington including yours truly ehm but 240 [JK] We’re also very busy with Facebook. You have to I mean that’s 241 [BO] But the point is, is that the reason Washington does not work is because two thirds of eh two 242 thirds of us who should be active aren’t active and as a consequence, special interest and big 243 money ends up moving a lot of the agenda and driving gridlock and so 244 [JK] Speaking of money, eh you have a Student Aid Bill of Rights that’s something you’re very 245 passionate about because it wasn’t so long ago that you were still paying [BO: still paying 246 them off, absolutely] off your loans. 247 [BO] And look, I was in Georgia Tech earlier this week and talked to eh big crowd of students 248 about this and I’ll suspect there are some folks in the audience who are concerned about this 249 as well. We have ehm everybody understands that the economy is now based on your skills, 250 your knowledge and the reason America ended up becoming the economic superpower that 251 we did was because we were the first to have universal public high schools and we had the GI 252 bill and so we had the best trained work force and young people understand that. The 253 problem is it’s also becoming more and more expensive and so what we’ve said is, in addition 254 to the work we’ve already done eh to make student loans cheaper, to expand Pell grants, to 255 set up a repayment program so that young people who wanna go into teaching or some other 256 helping profession are priced out of it because they gotta pay student loans. We there are 257 other things that we could do to lower costs and we’re asking people to sign up for what 258 we’re calling a Student Aid Bill of Rights to take a series of steps, collages, state legislators, 259 Congress, all to work to make sure that college is more affordable and one of the things we’re 260 doing is proposing the first two years of community college should be free for everybody 261 because it should be just like high school. And we can do it. 262 [JK] Does this include, does this include people who have existing student loans? 263 [BO] Well one of the things that we’re doing there is to try to eh eee, help them refinance because 264 a lot of them take out loans let’s say fifteen years ago when interest rates were a lot higher 85

265 and the same way that you should be able to refinance your mortgage and lower your costs, 266 you should be able to do that with student loans. [JK: You can’t refinance a student] And right 267 now a lot of student loans don’t allow allow the rules don’t allow you to refinance. 268 [JK] Wow, I did not know that. 269 [BO] There you go. See, hang around me, you’ll learn something. 270 [JK] But you won’t let me hang around you, because you have all these Secret service guys [BO: 271 no-no-no you-you-y] on you all the time. I can be very annoying [BO: we’ll we’ll we’ll have to 272 pet ypu down] you’d be surprised. Oh well that’s nice. Have you seen the movie Fast Times at 273 Richmond High? 274 [BO] Eh well eh yeah I was talking to Sean backstage and he he’s a year older than me so we’re 275 basically ah you know the same, the same generation and eh 276 [JK] And did you see him? 277 [BO] I did e a a and I thought he looked better blond. The eh that is a that’s a classic. I lived it 278 man I didn’t just see it. 279 [JK] We we’re going to Austin Texas next week for South by Southwest 280 [BO] Austin is a great town [JK: it is a great town] one of the be- one of the best town in the 281 Country [JK: I agree with you]. Great music, great food, great people. 282 [JK] So Kanye west is gonna be on our show on Friday eh next week and he was quoted yesterday 283 he said. This is a quote, he said ‘I understand I’m a servant with my voice with my ability to 284 build relationships with amazing people, speak to amazing people, call Elon Musk out of the 285 blue or call Obama out of the blue’ and then he says ‘Obama calls the home phone by the 286 way’. Are you talking to, are you having conversations with Kanye? 287 [BO] I-I-I’ve met Kanye twice. The first time when I was a Senator and he was with his mum and 288 eh he had he had just gotten big, he’s from Chicago and so they wanted to, they wanted to 289 meet and you know he’s very soft-spoken very gracious [JK: that sounds like him] no no he 290 was a young guy and hadn’t quite you know eh come come into his own and then about six 291 months ago eh he came to an event and look I love his music he’s incredibly creative ehm, I 292 don’t think I’ve got him home number though. 293 [JK] You don’t have his home number, all right. Well I’d love to put the two of you together right 294 [BO] I I do love his music. 295 [JK] Well, thank you so much for coming. Good luck with your fundraiser. President Barack 296 Obama. Thank you very much. We’ll be right back with Sean Penn. 297 [JK] Hi there. We are back. Our next guest tonight might very well be the best actor there is. He’s 298 a two-time Oscar winner and legitimate humanitarian with an excellent new movie called The 299 Gunman which opens in theaters March 20th. Please say hello to Sean Penn. 300 Thanks for coming. [SP: thank you] Thanks for sliding over for the president tonight. I 301 appreciate it. 302 [SP] Yeah. He prepared me for the… 303 [JK] He did. Did you talk to the president at all? 86

304 [SP] Me and Barrie were talking backstage. 305 [JK] You did hhhh. Was you know I know there was a background check. All, everyone who works 306 here we all had to do a background check. Did they make you do a background check as well? 307 [SP] I I would assume so. 308 [JK] Yeah, well. Well the fact that you’re here maybe no. Maybe ehm heh heh. Have you ever seen 309 like the results of one of these background checks? Because I never have. I have no idea 310 what might possibly be on this thing. 311 [SP] I’m reluctant to read anything about myself, so. 312 [JK] Do you not you don’t read about yourself at all? 313 [SP] Not, well Sometimes things, you know you know you have those really good friends who 314 wanna share some lovely things that people say about you. 315 [JK] Those people are not your friends by the way. That’s one of the first things yeah when people 316 send the that’s a weird thing that people do, like oh look at these terrible thing someone 317 wrote about you. Meet him. 318 [SP] Yeah, that’s an auto-amusement I suppose. 319 [JK] Yeah I suppose so. You grew up here in California 320 [SP] I did 321 [JK] which is kind of odd, I was thinking of you as this kind of citizen of the world and then you 322 know thinking you’ve grown up here in LA and Santa Monica or like whatever so it just doesn’t 323 seem like it fits necessarily, but Tom Cruise told us a great story once when he was here. He 324 said that when he flew to LA for first time, you picked him up at the airport. 325 [SP] That’s true I think that’s true yeah. 326 [JK] You were pals at that time and? 327 [SP] Yeah we had made a movie together eh the first basically the first movie that I ever did and 328 we just spent a bunch of time together in Valley Forge Pennsylvania and he came out to eh 329 you know start with what was a hopeful carrier. 330 [JK] Yeah, it worked out [SP: yeah] heh heh 331 And then did he said that you guys drove around like you took him on a tour of a stars 332 homes. 333 [SP] That’s not true. 334 [JK] That is not true? 335 [SP] No. We I took him to Lucille Ball’s house. Yeah it wasn’t the stars homes in general. It was 336 Lucille Ball’s house. 337 [JK] Specifically Lucille Ball? 338 [SP] Yeah, because a friend of mine ehm a very, there was another. It was because the brother of 339 Miami Steve Van Zandt [JK: yeah] ok [JK: sure] ehm, he was in the movie with us, with Tom 340 and I. He was out here Billy Van Zandt [JK: ok] and I mean generationally it didn’t make 341 much sense but this guy was a fanatic Lucille Ball guy. [JK: really?] yeah, he was our age and

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342 eh so I thought it would be fun to watch Tom see his fandom of Lucille Ball by going along 343 with stalking Lucille Ball’s house. 344 [JK] Lucille Ball was living there at the time? 345 [SP] Yeah I didn’t crawl like through the window or anything like that 346 [JK] And did Billy had a big reaction to the fact that he was in front of Lucy’s house? 347 [SP] He’d been there many times. 348 [JK] Oh ho ho waw I wonder if that will show up on your background check. Mike Tyson was here 349 eh last week and he told me a story about you, he said you and your wives at the time 350 Madonna, Robin Givens you guys went on a double date with Mike Tyson and his wife to see 351 Pee Wee’s Big Top. 352 [SP] That’s true. 353 [JK] That is true. That’s the best double date I ever heard of. 354 [SP] Yeah and I think Mike and I both I from I we had had a few drinks before we went to the 355 movie. 356 [JK] Ok, he said that too yeah. 357 [SP] You know I’m not good with having a few drinks before a movie, cause I’d like to have a 358 another drink and ehm so I think the two of us nodded out within two or three minutes. I 359 really liked the first movie [JK: right] the the [JK: Pee Wee’s Big Adventure yeah] and so I was 360 looking forward to seeing it but I didn’t. And neither did Mike, so as the end credits came up 361 we kinda woke up and then both spent the night defending that we had not fallen in love with 362 the leading lady in the movie from our seats we didn’t see her [JK: Oh your wives thought 363 you] Yeah I guess she was quite sensational and and charismatic eh but I didn’t see it. [JK: 364 Oh waw waw] And neither Mike but there was a lot of suspicion. 365 [JK] Is that something that you encountered frequently? 366 [SP] A lot of suspicion? 367 [JK] yeah a lot of suspicion yeah 368 [SP] Yeah from Madonna yeah 369 [JK] Wow that’s something else I can’t even imagine what people must have thought when you 370 guys satiated into that theater. I can’t even imagine you going to a movie theater to be 371 honest with you. 372 [SP] We got away with the whole night. We we went to dinner we went to drinks to the thing we 373 went to the to the dinner where we got suspected and no we didn’t have any eh issues that 374 night. 375 [JK] One of my favorite memories of a movie of yours I remember it, actually Cleto was our band 376 leader and we saw Bad Boys together and you eh you filled that pillow case with batteries 377 [SP: eh Coca-Cola cans] ou Coca-Cola cans that’s right from the vending machine and beat 378 the crap out of that I’ve always wanted to do that. he he he The movie Fast Times, when was 379 the last time you saw that movie.

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380 [SP] Eh I think it it came on television once about eight years ago and I think my kids, it would be 381 eight-ten years ago I think. 382 [JK] So your kids have seen it? 383 [SP] Yeah they’ve seen it 384 [JK] and the the I mean that must be crazy to see our dad playing that character 385 [SP] I- It was crazy for me to see their dad play that character yeah 386 [JK] We have a clip, just for those who may by some ungodly reason have not seen this. 387 [Movie clip] 388 [JK] Might be the greatest three words ever put together on film. Do people say, do people say 389 that to you a lot? 390 [SP] You dick? 391 [JK] yeah 392 [SP] yeah but I don’t know that it’s related to that 393 [JK] Sean Penn is with us, his movie’s called The Gunman. We’ll be right back. 394 [Movie clip] 395 [JK] That is The Gunman starring Sean Penn. I like that movie a lot. [SP: Eh thanks] Very exciting. 396 You play a Special Force-, former Special Forces operative. Is operative the correct term to 397 use? 398 [SP] An operator with a private contracting firm a private military for yeah. 399 [JK] And this is not based on a true story? 400 [SP] No, though most of the narrative has anchors in parallel things that are very close [JK: right] 401 yeah 402 [JK] You are enormously muscular in the film and if you were to disrobe right now oh I am sure 403 that we would see that you are indeed a very much eh. Is that from working out, is that how 404 that happens? I’d love it if we could work out together. I think it would be a great thing. 405 [SP] We could do that but I have a qu- eh Britt or Caitlyn? 406 [JK] Eh ou interesting you’re a Bachelor fan? I never would have guessed this, oh my goodness. 407 My head just exploded. 408 [SP] I thought maybe yeah. 409 [JK] Britt or Caitlyn waw. I have to say they both they they both have their good qualities [SP: do 410 they?] yeah they do. I don’t know I really don’t know which side I’m on and believe me it gets 411 discussed a lot in my home.You watch The Bachelor? Do you and Charlize watch The 412 Bachelor? I assume you’re watching with her or else if you’re watching it alone this is real 413 weird. 414 [SP] We argue about whether or not we should fast- I don’t really wanna hear the conversations 415 [JK] uhm, what’s left? [SP: I just wanna] the flower exchange? 416 [SP] I wanna know the decisions 417 [JK] You wanna know the yeah

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418 [SP] Yeah, is-is-is he gonna decide on this one this one and then I wanna see somebody cry. And 419 then see somebody get ecstatic and then see them cry. But but no it’s 420 [JK] Who do you like, Britt or Caitlyn? 421 [SP] It’s gonna have to be Caitlyn. 422 [JK] It’s gonna have to be Caitlyn, she’s Canadian. [SP: it’s scary] You could be on The Men Tell All 423 special. Waw that’s unbelievable that you’re watching The Bachelor I had no idea. 424 [SP] I still can’t believe that they got Matthew McConaughey to be the bachelor and call himself 425 something different. 426 [JK] That’s right that hey you just directed a movie, Charlize is in it and your son Harper is in it as 427 well. Was that a fun thing for you or was that? 428 [SP] It was great we started shooting ehm was it’s principally Charlize and Javier Bardem but my 429 son was playing a helicopter rescue pilot so we started shooting in South Africa, he was here 430 in Van Nuys Airport taking a helicopter lessons and by the time he got to South Africa he flew 431 us to set. [JK: waw] yeah so it was exciting 432 [JK] Waw, President Obama can’t even teach his kids to drive. 433 [JK] It was very good to see you. [SP: There’s limitations to every job] Thank you for coming. 434 Movie’s called the Gunman, go see it, March 20th. Sean Penn everybody. Thanks Sean, thanks 435 to president Obama, Nightline is next, thanks for watching, goodnight 436

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437 The Talk

Hosts: Julie Chen [JC], Sharon Osbourne [SO], Aisha Tyler [AT], Sheryl Underwood [SU] Guests: Thomas Lennon [TL], Elisabeth Hurley [EH], Patrick Stump [PS], Pete Wentz [PW]

1 [JC] Hello everyone and welcome to The Talk. Joining us at the table is the funny and charming 2 star from the hit CBS show The Odd Couple Thomas Lennon. Welcome, welcome. 3 [TL] Thank you very much. 4 [JC] Let’s get started with Pharrell possibly facing another lawsuit from Marvin Gaye’s family. This 5 time over his mega hit Happy. Now that Gaye’s family won a 7.3 million dollar lawsuit against 6 Pharrell and Robin Thicke over the song Blurred Lines, the family is taking a closer look at 7 Happy. On Tuesday a jury agreed with the family’s claim that Blurred Lines was a rip off of 8 Gaye’s Got to Give It Up. Yesterday Gaye’s relatives told Enter Entertainment Tonight that 9 Happy sounds a lot like another classic Gaye song Ain’t That Peculiar. Listen to the two songs 10 back to back. 11 [JC] Ok, ok, hot. There is more ladies and gentlemen. Now listen to them as a mash-up. 12 [JC] Do you think Pharrell’s song Happy is a Marvin Gaye rip off? 13 [TL] Who gets custody of the naked models and the goat? Does the Gaye estate get that? 14 [JC] Before we go to break, don’t forget to follow us on Twitter to join our conversation. We’ll be 15 right back. 16 [JC] That was a scene from tonight’s episode of The Odd Couple starring our special guest host 17 Thomas Lennon as Felix Unger and Matthew Perry as Oscar Madison. 18 [SO] From showing off her legendary beauty as a model and style icon to shagging Mike Meyers in 19 the Austin Powers films, our next guest has always made a huge impression. On her new 20 series The Royals, she has found a role that’s as glamorous as she is, the Queen of England. 21 Please welcome my friend, the gorgeous Elizabeth Hurley. 22 [SU] Yey, Yey 23 [AT] Welcome, welcome [EH: thank you] So, Elizabeth earlier we were talking about the paparazzi 24 trying to take a photo of Beyoncé’s daughter and obviously the paparazzi have been in love 25 with you and also hounding you for years so what do you think about that whole thing? 26 [EH] Well, I I think it’s unacceptable for men to stalk women and children actually. I’m I was 27 subject to that so much so that I ended up leaving London and moving to the country full 28 time with my son, because I lived in London townhouse where I didn’t have an escape route, 29 I didn’t have a underground garage, I had to leave every day and it got to the stage where I 30 think my son got anxiety about it [AT: oh yeah yeah] and I remember one day, we were

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31 leaving the house and he was tiny and he picked up an umbrella from the umbrella stand and 32 it wasn’t raining. And I said darling it’s not raining, he said I’m gonna hit them if they come 33 near you. 34 [TL] He’s a good boy. 35 [AT] How old was he? 36 [EH] He was a little, he was toddling at that time [AT: oh waw] but he knew, it was very stressful 37 so we moved to the country where it was much better. But ehm, it’s it’s I heard what you said 38 and and you’re right, because the word is just always consent. [AT: right] You know [AT: 39 right] if you consent to something it’s entirely different. If people are ambushing you at home 40 it’s it’s not fine, I don’t think. 41 [Ho] Right, right 42 [SU] So listen. You and Sharon have known each other for years. Matter of fact you got her a 43 wedding present, eh an unusual wedding present from Sharon. Ok first question is what is it 44 and do you still have it? 45 [EH] Right, well [SO: O-uh] you are very kind and you and your family gave us a big bull for my 46 farm to go in with our lovely lady cows and ehm I’m afraid, we called him Ozzy [SO: Yes, 47 exactly] And he’s not around but his progeny is, so the sons and daughters of Ozzy live on. 48 [JC] Now Elisabeth you became an international sex symbol after the Austin Powers movie and in 49 that movie there is a famous nude scene where ehm all the important parts are strategically 50 covered eh what was it like shooting that scene? 51 [EH] Well sort of horrific because we had to be nude in it and so I remember before we did it they 52 said don’t worry we’re gonna put little nude things you know on the bits that you don’t want 53 to show and I was like you know why don’t we put scarlet bits there [AT: yes] so you really 54 can’t see them otherwise you know I can see you could see something we don’t want you to 55 see even though everything is nude so we did the whole thing with big scarlet stickers on a 56 bits 57 [AT] something like cheated later and snuck around 58 [EH] You don’t feel sexy then, idiotic of course you are nude 59 [TL] serious question, recently at a charity auction a man payed 80,000 $ to kiss you. My question 60 from the male part of the panel, why such bargain basement prices? 61 [AT] well played, well played 62 [TL] I’m I’m also very accurate 63 [JC] How did this come about how 64 [EH] You know it was it was Elton’s big fundraiser in the summer and I was sitting next to Elton 65 and this man came up to him and said to Elton you know if if Elisabeth kisses my son, I’ll give 66 you 80,000 $ for the foundation and Elton went ‘get up’ I had no choice 67 [JC] I love how he asked Elton and not you, so sexist. Thomas is minting up his breath 68 [TL] I just I have a hit show and I already have a cool car so [All: uu, oh, aa hhhhh] I don’t have 69 the money I spent it I don’t have it I don’t have it 92

70 [AT] All you want might also have a heart attack it looks like 71 [TL] get the paddles 72 [SO] we’ll move on yeah Elisabeth your fabulous ex Hugh Grant, everybody just loves Hugh [EH: I 73 love Hugh] now he’s the best so ok he said in a recent interview that you two are besties and 74 that you’re the number one person that he calls in a crisis now what’s it like when the two of 75 you get together? 76 [EH] Can I just say, it’s not just a crisis he calls for [SO: like everything] yeah literally everything 77 ehm well you know we were together thirteen years we’ve been best friends for further fifteen 78 years after [AT: nice] that so we’ve been apart more that we’ve been together but he he is 79 still my best friend in the whole world [AT: that’s so great that’s so great] and ehm I love him 80 [JC] Much much more with the gorgeous Elizabeth Hurley when we come right back. 81 [AT] That was good 82 [SU] That was a scene from The Royals which has already been picked up for the second season 83 before the first episode has aired we’re back with the Queen of England herself, Elisabeth 84 Hurley ok congratulations on the role it’s ecstatic it happens, it’s behind the scenes, in the 85 palace and everything and all the give me the juicy stuff, that’s what I wanna know. What is 86 what is the drama, what’s happening? 87 [EH] Well it’s a fictitious royal family it’s not based on the real one at all and I think within seconds 88 you know that it’s no parody eh we we’re all original creations and it’s sort of ehm its’ been 89 described as Buckingham Palace on steroids. Sort of out there. It’s great you get to see what 90 we do see of the royal family you see them out and about looking glamorous looking 91 magnificent and the jewels and everything and then you go backstage behind closed doors 92 and you see what goes on in there. Quite dysfunctional family in a way where you know 93 there’s with everything going on and it’s pretty much funnily enough even though we are the 94 most celebrated wealthiest privileged glamorous family in the world. Backstage it’s just like 95 any other family, I didn’t get on with my husband who’s the King of England, my children hate 96 me. It’s eh everyone can identify with it but it’s just on this grand magnificent scale. 97 [SU] that’s juicy that’s juicy 98 [AT] you’re playing you’re playing the Queen of England and I wonder was that something that you 99 fantasized about when you were a little girl? 100 [EH] Well I think [AT: being a Queen] yeah kind of ehm I still do because I you know we could 101 have married Charles and we could be Queen but eh yeah I think so I was into princesses and 102 I remember lot of games dressing up where I always was the Queen and I used to I used to 103 make my little brother be my pageboy holding my trail and so yeah I guess we’ve always had 104 fantasies about tiaras and [SO: you look like a Queen] oh do I [SO: you do] 105 [JC] Now to play the Queen of England you have to dress the part. Did you make any special 106 requests with the wardrobe department? 107 [EH] Well you never seen you obviously could really go anywhere and I thought I was trying to 108 think to myself what would maybe Princess Diana had worn if she became the Queen and 93

109 with there now well she’d only be early fifties and so I had that in my head as to how I 110 wanted my Queen to look sort of very sleek very modern but dignified but ehm mo- modern 111 because Princess Diana was wearing Versace and she looked you know fantastic so we do we 112 have beautiful clothes on the show. We wear some British designers Rola Murray, Alexander 113 McQueen but then we have Versace and Dolce and Gabbana and Cavali and it kinda lo- it 114 looks it looks glamorous. 115 [AT] I’m sure it does 116 [TL] You did the thing all actors threaten to do which is you took eight years of to actually raise 117 your son [AT: yeah] that almost no one actually does and eh [AT: beautiful] were you 118 surprised the fear everyone always has is of course is if you take a long hiatus will there be a 119 great role waiting for me when I come back, where you surprised to [EH: I] have such a huge 120 part waiting for you? 121 [EH] I feel it’s a miracle to be honest that I came and got a good part yeah I had no idea if I’d 122 work again and and it was worth it and I didn’t regret a second of the time I took off and 123 went to the farm but ehm yeah you do have that fear of course you do and it was it was just 124 absolute luck I think that this came along out of the blue I didn’t ask to do it you know it 125 literally came to me out of the blue and it I it is a penny from heavens so 126 [AT] that’s lovely 127 [EH] you know Elisabeth you look magnificent as always ok as always now as the Queen are you 128 going to be doing any messing and fiddling in the show? 129 [AT] messing [EH: oh hah] and fiddling naughty things 130 [EH] Well, obviously I can’t spoil anything but I would say that my Queen is [SO: human] she’s 131 manipulative, she’s cunning, she’s controlling and yeas she is embroiled in some of the more 132 fun elements of the show 133 [JC] oh, Queen has her needs 134 [JC] Elizabeth Hurley everybody, The Royals premiers this Sunday night at 10 o’clock on E. We’ll be 135 right back. 136 [SO] Our next guest came together as a band in the suburbs of Chicago in the early 2000s. They 137 have since gone on to become one of the most successful rock bands of the last decade. Their 138 new album American Beauty American Psycho recently debuted number one. Please welcome 139 Fall Out Boy. All right, congratulations guys on the new album huge huge success for you now 140 tell me you started out as real youngsters, you were just little kids, now ok the success this 141 time around is it any different? 142 [PW] I mean yeah I mean I guess that we we now can remember what’s going on. Before it all 143 happened so fast that it was like we would follow a backpack through the airport and it was 144 like I wouldn’t know how to go through the airport if not for that [JC: yeah] so this time 145 around we’re like we feel very lucky that we got another s- another chance

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146 [JC] Yeah well I imagine what also makes a bit different this time around Patrick is that in the last 147 year, three of you have had new babies? [P: yeah] so how has how has that changed life on 148 the road? 149 [PS] It’s it’s crazy it all very new ehm and I think we’re going on a on a summer tour eh and I think 150 we’re [PW: we’re looking for a wet wipes] yeah hey guys eh it’s a it’s something that we have 151 to figure out how to how to work in because I think we’re we’re pretty eh backstage a failry 152 family-friendly band but now it has to be even more so it’s like babies and hh 153 [JC] Pete how about for you because you have a six month old at home and a six year old 154 [PW] Yeah so I’m up at like 4-5am and then 7am for school. Yeah it’s cool eh my six-year old 155 doesn’t he it’s like it’s like going to your dad’s work so it’s like he’s like this is not cool he’s 156 playing with his DS when there’s 40,000 people when we’re on stage but like he likes seeing 157 that there’s ice under the rink at the arena he’s like why is there ice under there 158 [PS] No matter who you are no matter what you do what your parents do is not cool 159 [JC] Yeah it is a lesson learnt 160 [SO] Now Pete what advice would you give new rock band starting out today in the music industry 161 what advice would you give them? 162 [PW] I think that eh more than anything like you can you can learn you can talent’s important and 163 you can learn lots of different things but like ambition and heart the heart is the engine for 164 everything so if you you need that in order to succeed like there’s gonna be a million people 165 that’ll tell you no and you have to push be able to push through that 166 [JC] Patrick so many of ehm so many of your songs have gone on to become like these jock 167 anthems you hear them in stadiums getting the crowd, including the song you guys are about 168 to sing Centuries so how does it feel like knowing that your songs are pumping up these 169 crowds in like tens like 80,000 people in a stadium 170 [PS] It’s crazy it’s a I got to see ehm I got to see a Bear’s game and they play they played the 171 song while we while I was there and it was it’s a totally different thing it’s a you know I didn’t 172 even recognize it as my own th- as you know something I was part of I was just like there 173 being psyched with everybody and yeah so it’s cool it’s crazy eh I I know apparently know a 174 lot more about writing songs for sports than I do about sports 175 [JC] Ha ha well whatever it works it’s great to work to Centuries let me tell you, Fall Out Boy 176 gentlemen thank you so much. Fall Out Boy’s new album American Beauty American Psycho is 177 available now, however, everyone today’s studio audience is going home with a copy of it. 178 Your chance to win the CD and for more information about the upcoming Boys of Summer 179 Tour go to thetalk.com. Now performing their hit song Centuries give it up for Fall Out Boy. 180 [JC] Before we say goodbye we wanna thank Thomas Lennon for co-hosting with us today and be 181 sure to watch him tonight on The Odd Couple at 8:30 right here on CBS. Now closing out the 182 show with their hit My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark which you can see in its entirety 183 on thetalk.com, put your hands in the air and give it up for Fall Out Boy. 184 95

185 The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

Host: Jimmy Fallon [JF], announcer Steve Higgins [SH] Guests: Hugh Jackman [HJ], Tiffani Thiessen [TTh]

1 [SH] From Studio 6B in Rockefeller Centre in the heart of New York City it’s The Tonight Show 2 starring Jimmy Fallon. Tonight join Jimmy as guests Hugh Jackman, Tiffani Thiessen, musical 3 guest Hozier and featuring the legendary The Roots crew [two two four Chicago]. And now, 4 here he is, Jimmy Fallon. 5 [JF] Welcome, welcome everyone, thank you very much. Thank you. Hey. Thank you very very 6 much. Thank you very much, Thank you. Thank you very very much. Oh. Thank you. Thank 7 you, thank you, thank you very much. Welcome to The Tonight Show everybody. Thank you 8 for being here, oh my Goodness. You guys, I hope everyone here in the audience is very 9 comfortable, because with this snow there’s a good chance that none of us are ever leaving. 10 We might as well, I’m sorry but that’s. Let’s get eh some news here. Yesterday, the Supreme 11 Court spent over an hour listening to arguments on whether Obama care is unconstitutional. 12 Yeah, listening to that arguments about Obama for an hour, of course most people call that 13 Thanksgiving Dinner. I get it dad. You don’t get it. The Supreme Court spent over an hour 14 listening to arguments on whether Obama care is unconstitutional. It’s pretty close right now 15 it looks like four opposed, four in favor and one asleep and just taking a little nap, taking a 16 little powering nap. 17 [SH] a liquid nap 18 [JF] just taking a cat nap 19 [SH] yeah 20 [JF] And Hilary Clinton gave a big speech in Washington DC this week and well check out what she 21 had to say 22 [HC] And I suppose it’s only fair to say don’t you someday want to see a woman be a president of 23 The United States of America? Well 24 [JF] Yeah, crowd went crazy while Bydon said, looks like we’re gonna have to pull up a Mrs. 25 Doubtfire all right here we go. Well hello, I’m gonna run for president yeah, you don’t have to 26 you don’t have to yeah yeah. A woman president yeah the Cris Christie said would you settle 27 for someone who wears a bra? And they go no- that’s not what we were saying but thank you 28 for asking, thank you for asking. But actually she may have some competition, there’s rumors 29 that former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley may enter the race and challenge Hilary for 30 the democratic nomination. Yeah, Hilary’s not worried I mean who’s gonna go from being 31 totally unknown to beating her for the presidency? You know it’s I mean that’s how would 32 tha- how would that ever happen? Oh guys I saw that Kim Kardashian was People Magazine’s

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33 guest editor this week. Yeah, I already I already knew you all knew yeah. You could tell they 34 gave her a lot of control over the issue’s content I mean look at some of these articles. Eh, 35 first we have Top 3 other baby names based on compass directions. Next there’s what to buy 36 your manager for mother’s day, that’s interesting. And finally we have Top 5 speeches your 37 husband has interrupted it’s a it’s a good read, it’s a good read you should pick it up. 38 Eeh this is a little scary here, there are reports that Russia is actually working with North 39 Korea to encourage collaboration and cooperation between the two countries, yeah. They 40 believe that with Russia’s economic power and North Korea’s technology, it could be real 41 threat to 1987. 42 Eh some cool tech news here. Researchers have recently debuted a contact lance that can 43 zoom in on something with the wink of your eye. Yeah at least I think they do, the researches 44 kept saying I invented this new lance it’s really great (wink). Did you or… No I totally did 45 (wink). Everyone’s gonna use it (wink), it’s gonna be great. It’s gonna be really big (wink). I 46 got you one too (wink). 47 I read that airlines in the US may soon include less seats on planes which would increase 48 passenger leg room but would cause more per ticket. In an effort to be more green and use 49 less fuel. 50 [SS] Yeah, that’s exactly what they want you to think. 51 [JF] I’m sorry guys this Scott Seamore the Falcetto conspiracy theorist eh Scott you you think that 52 airlines are just saying they’re gonna be more green as a way to charge more money? 53 [SS] Think? Jimmy I know these airlines are run by corporate bigwigs who couldn’t care less about 54 the environment they just want more Benjamin’s to land in their suit pockets 55 [JF] Right right that’s could you just remind me how did your voice get to be like that? 56 [SS] Ah a raccoon bit off one of my testicles but that doesn’t matter my point is the airlines don’t 57 really care about being green any more that the government cares about the widely accepted 58 fact that the Rosetta space prone was actually an alien space craft. Think about that. It’s been 59 admitted signals for years. 60 [JF] I-I-I how did a raccoon bite off your testicle I’m sorry 61 [SS] Uh I was tr- I was taking out the trash one night and I saw a raccoon in my trash can I tried 62 to shoo it away with a broom but it jumped on my leg and bit off my left nut. 63 [JF] All right that’s that’s ridiculous 64 [SS] I’ll tell you what’s ridiculous, the fact that any sort of nut neutralization act has yet to be 65 released to the public, it’s so obvious that 66 [JF] I’m sorry w- w- you weren’t you you weren’t wearing pants at the time are you saying 67 [SS] Ah it was a hot summer night so I took my trash to curb naked from the waist down 68 [JF] So a raccoon bit one of one testicle of your half-naked body 69 [SS] Jimmy I’d love to get back to my conspiracies.

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70 [JF] Yeah I’m just sorry I just don’t believe any of your theories I just think what happened is that 71 you were traumatized by this raccoon thing and then for some reason you decided to focus 72 your energy on 73 [SS] Ah ah my other testicle my other testicle 74 [JF] Hey hey hey get out of here hey. Get out of here. The Falsetto conspiracy theorist and an 75 angry raccoon everyone. Finally this is interesting guys according to a recent study, one glass 76 of red wine has similar effects to spending on hour at the gym. Yeah but I I think they already 77 mull that over in the today show. Check that out 78 [Video clip] 79 [JF] We have a great show, give it up for The Roots everybody. 80 We are having big show tonight. Giant show. [SH: giant] This is a giant show tonight. He is 81 one of our favorites, gosh we love it every time his coming. From the new movie Chappie, 82 Hugh Jackman is here [SH: come on]. Chappie, it’s like a robot [SH: robot movie]. Yeah, 83 really fun. Later in the show, Hugh and I are playing a game called Musical Beers with some 84 surprise guests. I can’t tell you who. I can’t tell you who [SH: who is it?], it wouldn’t be a 85 surprise [who is it?] It wouldn’t be a surprise if I told you, that’s why it’s called surprise. Ehm, 86 plus she was so fun and helped us out with our Saved by the Bell sketch earlier this year, 87 she’s a great actress, she’s gorgeous, she has a new show on cooking channel, Tiffany 88 Thiessen is stopping by. Eh I love the show, she has a cooking show on a [SH: a cooking 89 channel]. Cooking channel, yeah yeah. I, I food network is is a different thing [SH: yeah]. 90 This is cooking channel [SH: this is cooking channel]. Food network is food network, this is 91 cooking channel. [SH: Right, one is food network, this is cooking channel]. Yes. This is not on 92 food network [SH: no]. This is on cooking channel [SH: yeah]. Cooking channel, I’m watching 93 the show. Dude, she’s a natural, I love it. She’s like, has her celebrity friends over, she makes 94 dinner, stuff that I think I could do. I go, I could probably make that, but she’s awesome, 95 she’s good. I go, I don’t even know that she was into this stuff and then eh eh guess what the 96 name of it is. [SH: what?] Dinner at Tiffany’s. [SH: oh, come on] Come on, come on what? 97 What I wanna, how am I not producing that? I wanna make us that’s the best idea I’ve ever 98 heard. 99 [SH] Dinner at Tiffany’s 100 [JF] Dinner at Tiffany’s yeah 101 [SH] on Cooking Channel 102 [JF] Cooking yes yeah on Cooking Channel. Were you about to say something else? 103 [SH] I was about to say Food Network 104 [JF] No that’s no it’s not on it’s on Cooking Channel 105 [SH] Cooking Channel 106 [JF] that’s right 107 [SH] Cooking Channel 108 [JF] not the Cooking Channel 98

109 [SH] Cooking Channel 110 [JF] the THE Food Network Cooking Channel [SH: Cooking Channel] It’s like the The Beatles 111 [SH] right exactly, not Beatles it’s The Beatles 112 [JF] that’s correct but Beastie Boys 113 [SH] it’s not 114 [JF] The Beastie Boys 115 [SH] no it’s just 116 [JF] Beastie Boys So this would be if Food Network is to Beatles and Cooking Channel is to Beastie 117 Boys 118 [SH] right 119 [JF] no if Food Network is is is if 120 [SH] The Food Network 121 [JF] The Food Network is to to The Food Network is to The Beatles and Beastie and ehm Cooking 122 Channell is to Beastie Boys 123 [SH] right 124 [JF] Dinner at Tiffany’s is on Beastie Boys 125 [SH] there you go 126 [JF] And we have music from Grammy nominated performer Hozier, right here. 127 [SH] Next time, it’s gonna be the Hozie S 128 [JF] You guys, it’s time for Tonight show’s hashtags. Here we go. 129 Here we go, eh, you guys are on Twitter right? It’s fun well we use Twitter on our show every 130 single week, so if you wanna, if you watch our show and you wanna play along, we do this 131 thing every Wednesday where I send out a #, we ask you guys to tweet out things based on 132 that topic. All right so since sring break is coming up I went on Twitter and started a # called 133 #SpringBreakRaps. Asked you guys to Tweet out a funny rap about spring break eh we got 134 thousands of tweets then for fifteen minutes it was a trending topic in the US so thank you for 135 those tweets. You know I thought I’d share some of my favorite SpringBreakRaps tweets from 136 you guys. Tariq can you help me out with this one? [Absolutely] Thanks buddy. He see he 137 seems psyched about it 138 [SH] He’s ready to go 139 [JF] I don’t know whose glasses he wore to work but it’s not eh I can see I can see his eyes rolling 140 behind whenever when they. Yeah I really I’d love to help you. Yeah [wink] 141 [SH] [Wink] 142 [JF] No he’s got those new contact lances [SH: he’s got the new contact lances] Yeah yeah no I 143 this sounds this sounds like a great pitch I’d love to do it. Are you zooming in? Yeah yeah 144 that’s right. I’m zooming in [wink] I don’t know what’s going on this first one’s from 145 @slimzimmerman 146 [SH] What? slimzimmerman? 147 [JF] Well it sounds like it’s fake already but 99

148 [SH] slimzimmerman 149 [JF] you may know him as slimdylan no it’s a deep cut there it’s a musical joke ehm 150 slimzimmerman he says 151 SpringBreakRaps 152 [SH] SpringBreakRaps 153 [JF] Ehm this one’s from @jpgrego eh he says […] 154 No no eh that’s not good fro- [SH: slutty snowman] fro-frostbite 155 [SH] in all the unusual places 156 [JF] ehm is it a it’s a song Garret Brooks song isn’t it? 157 [SH] yes it is looking for frostbite in all the wrong places 158 [JF] no that’s a different that’s like Will and Janice or something. I’m thinking about I got a 159 frostbite in all the wrong places. This one’s from @pickupjaxi she says […] 160 That’s pretty good right there that sounded like something to hear on Cooking Channel 161 This one’s from @NeilBrendle he says […] 162 Hump around [SH: hump around] Heh Heh Oh this is a good one from @lmo321 […] 163 Happens happens to the best of em 164 This one’s from @edillades he says […] 165 Oh wait come on which one is it? I see white and gold [SH: I see white and gold] I see white 166 and gold [wink] I’m zooming in I just wanna look at the dress. I see white and gold [wink] 167 [SH] Wait which o- which one do you see? 168 [JF] black and blue [wink] 169 [SH] Hey wait a second 170 [JF] Oh I like this one. This one’s from @myhairismagic it says that Jared Leto’s Twitter account 171 [SH] yeah it does 172 [JF] it is magic 173 [SH] it is very magical 174 [JF] eh oh no this is from @mhairismagic and she says […] 175 Flip flop flipity-flop to what my feet rocks a flip flop 176 This last one’s from @sara_kosh she says 177 Eh those are Tonight Show’s Hashtags check out more of our favorites go to 178 tonightshow.com/hashtags stick around we’ll be right back with Hugh Jackman 179 Our first guest is an Academy Award nominated actor who stars in a new movie called 180 Chappie which is in theaters and imax everywhere on Friday, then later this year you can see 181 him as Blackbeard in the highly anticipated movie Pan. Ladies and gentlemen please welcome, 182 Hugh Jackman. 183 My man! 184 [HJ] It’s good to see you. 185 [JF] Great to see you [HJ: it’s good to see you too] Thank you for coming back buddy. 186 [HJ] How is everything? 100

187 [JF] Great, I can’t complain everything’s fantastic. [HJ: good] I mean you’re here, that’s all I want. 188 That’s all we want, we want Hugh Jackman, that’s what we want. We need it. 189 [HJ] Thank you very much [JF: Hugh Jackman everybody] goodnight everybody 190 [JF] Eh [HJ: yo] Looking very Bond [HJ: yeah] very James Bond [HJ: thank you] there. Cigar 191 Aficionado, are you an aficionado of cigars? 192 [HJ] Yes. It’s a bit of a stretch 193 [JF] Do you, do you smoke cigar? 194 [HJ] No no no let’s be fair, one cigar a year that means aficionado right? One a year? 195 [JF] Heh I don’t think so. I don’t know anything about do you know anything about cigars? 196 [HJ] I do well my dad smokes cigars so I do feel like I know. I do love a cigar ehm actually I went 197 to I went for the eh millennium year 2000 I was in Cuba, Havana Cuba [JF: how] yeah I don’t 198 know if anyone here’s been you’re allowed to go now right? Is that right? 199 [JF] Yeah but like over like the past two days or something we di- we didn’t have time to get in 200 the plane 201 [HJ] I’m Australian man they just let us in we’re fine 202 [JF] you’re that likable 203 [HJ] So I went there and everyone of course smokes cigars literally people rolling them on the 204 street everyone and there’s something about it [JF: that’s the best cigars in the world] 205 because here you just can’t smoke cigars anywhere right? [JF: no] no one’s harm you have to 206 go to a sort of special room or outside, literally there there’s something about I was every 207 time I get in the elevator just because I could I’m like I’m lighting it up in the elevator yeah 208 and everyone’s like cool dude awesome [JF: ha ha ha you’re cool] lobby’s, restaurants 209 everywhere [JF: really] smoking like from ten o’clock in the morning throwing up by bed two 210 o’clock in the afternoon. 211 [JF] Yeah that makes sense there. I I once we had Schwarzenegger on and you know he he loves 212 cigars [HJ: yeah] and so I said you you I’d love for you to teach me anything anything about 213 anything about cigars I I know little bit I smoke like one a year like my dad or something [HJ: 214 yeah] like we bond or something ah and eh and eh w- he called me we went I went to some 215 secret club in New York City like the Havana Room or something or Cigar some secret club 216 [HJ: yeah-yeah-yeah] you have to like he used his thumb print to get in and it was really laser 217 beams and we got in and I’m like oh my God and he gave me a cigar and ok and then I 218 started I licked the cigar [HJ: Hhhhh] do you know what I’m talking about? 219 [HJ] No I’m more oh you’re really meant to lick it? 220 [JF] yeah because I think it’s it it yeah yeah and he goes ‘stop licking the cigar’ and I go I didn’t 221 really hear what he was saying I thought he was like I thought he was commenting on how I 222 know something. But I had heard that if you lick it it burns slower and it smoo- it’s like it 223 smoothies and I kept doing it and he goes ‘stop licking the cigar [HJ: stop licking the cigar] 224 stop licking the cigar’ like veins are coming out I’m like ‘all right’ then I was holding like a

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225 handful of tobacco and I’m like now what I ‘you have to reroll the cigar now you licked it so 226 much’ But then eventually 227 [HJ] Was it just the two of you? 228 [JF] yeah, just us and like a cloud of cigar smoke and then yeah and then I never saw him again 229 yeah silly maybe it was a dream maybe it was a dream ehm I gotta say, love Chappie [HJ: 230 Thank you man, thank you] congratz on this, that’s the guy who did this the Division [HJ: 231 District Nine] District Nine 232 [HJ] Yeah great movie right? District Nine [JF: District Nine fantastic he’s smart] and I’m a huge 233 fan of Neil Blomkamp who wrote and directed it and when I when he asked me to be in this I 234 was like done I’m in. You know we made it in South Africa ehm it was really really cool it’s I-I 235 was I loved it I was really excited [JF: Sigourney Weaver] yeah I mean 236 [JF] to do anything with Sigourney Weaver is the best [HJ: you pinch yourself] yeah and anything 237 involving sci-fi or robots or anything with Sigourney Weaver I mean 238 [HJ] and this is a sci-fi movie futuristic robots it’s action everyone on set there particularly Neil and 239 the creative team, when Sigourney Weaver turned up on set came on literally like It’s Ripley- 240 It’s Ripley-It’s Ripley-It’s Ripley-It’s Ripley [JF: Aaaaa yeah] I’m like ‘it’s my close-up’ we don’t 241 care It’s Ripley-It’s Ripley-It’s Ripley 242 [JF] Yeah, exactly. And what a close-up it was I gotta say [HJ: yeah] one of the best mullets I’ve 243 seen in 2000 244 [HJ] awesome awesome 245 [JF] that is a great 246 [HJ] did you ever have a mull- like did you ever rock a mullet? 247 [JF] I rocked a mullet yeah [HJ: you rocked a mullet?] like on Saturday Night [HJ: oh no come on 248 for real] Live but I shouldn’t have rocked it 249 [JF] not real I didn’t I I almost if like a little bit but I mean you you actually legitimately rocked one 250 [HJ] I did 251 [JF] when your wife first met you [HJ: this is a pho- oh yeah look at it you done oh] look at that 252 this is not [HJ: Heh heh] this is not for this is not for a role this is real life right here yeah this 253 is I love it [HJ: Deb] you could 254 [HJ] I just gave her Deb here I love you here’s my picture [JF: yeah] that was [JF: Did your wife 255 like your new mullet?] my mullet. Well here’s the thing I you know this was 19 years ago 256 when we met and we’ve been married 19 years not that this is perfect I’ve got that mullet 257 being a long time between drinks between mullets and she’s it’s gonna remind her of the early 258 days, when she fell in love with me eh not so much. I thought it was gonna be three months 259 it’s gonna be awesome time I’ll I’m gonna walk in the door and she’s gonna yeah come over 260 here yeah. No. [JF: no] Put a bag on your head, get over here. Hhh 261 [JF] She like let me see some Wolverine action yeah.

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262 [HJ] She’s got a thing if you notice I had I don’t know if that may be before but I had blonde tips 263 put in the top of the mullet. We thought we went all mullet. 264 [JF] No it’s fantastic, I 265 [HJ] And she does not like men with the [JF: blonde tips] no any kind of tips no. Any kind of dying 266 sorry if anyone here has died their hair 267 [JF] Well yeah you won’t have a shot with his wife 268 [HJ] I’m not, exactly, I’m only sorry [JF: Don’t take your wife back, she’s fine she’s happily married 269 to Hugh Jackman yeah] She’s still go out to dinner with you. 270 [JF] Hah ha ha 271 [HJ] She’ll be texting all night [JF: She just she won’t like it yeah] No there’ll be no going home 272 afterwards sorry 273 [JF] I thought it would be fun I don’t know if you know I I found one of these do you mind? I have 274 one for me too. 275 [HJ] Really? 276 [JF] yeah 277 [HJ] come on Heh hhh 278 [JF] Not bad Hahhh [HJ: I don’t know why] this is this is pretty good this is not too b- [HJ: I’m 279 giving myself a fake clipped pellet as well I don’t know why] yeah we should go we should go 280 to like a cigar room [HJ: oh yeah] like a secret cigar room. Stop licking the cigars [HJ: Stop 281 licking the cigars, don’t lick it] 282 [JF] Don’t lick it stop it now. You embarrassing me ehm 283 [HJ] Come on girls girls what do you think yes or no? 284 [JF] I feel good about this 285 [HJ] You do? 286 [JF] Let’s keep them on for the rest of the interview [HJ: ok] eh ehm I-I-I but I love the movie eh 287 [HJ] Heh this is it 288 [JF] This is it man 289 [HJ] We’re on Taxi TV you know it. This is Taxi TV 290 [JF] Welcome to Taxi TV [HJ: that’s it] this is it. I get all my raise from Taxi TV. Hi everybody tip 291 your drivers, tip your drivers. 292 [HJ] This is it [JF: This is it] you’re in you’re in the hottest place in the world New York City the 293 latest haircuts go and get a mullet trust me 294 [JF] This is everyone’s getting a mullet. [HJ: everyone] Trust us. [HJ: Look at the driver in front of 295 you, he’s got a mullet] He’s got a mullet [HJ: everyone] Hhhhh Oh my gosh eh [HJ: perfect] 296 eh I don’t know how to serve the movie 297 [HJ] You get a serious party in the back here man [JF: oh yeah] ( ) in the front party at the back I 298 love it. 299 [JF] It’s like [HJ: It’s perfect] Can I take your daughter out? Like sweet have you, get on the back 300 of my snowmobile. It’s like wait you drop her some- Great that’s why I get two in front ehm 103

301 [HJ] Cool leg warmer dude 302 [JF] Thank you so much yeah my legs are never cold so eh so eh ehm I’m try to be as serious as 303 can but also it’s a fun movie so I can do this for the movie [HJ: yeah man whatever] so yeah 304 this is yeah this is Chappie 305 [HJ] We’re going eighties, full eighties 306 [JF] This is Chappie eh and eh it’s a it’s a cool the thing it’s a new chip that’s in these robots [HJ: 307 uhm] I can’t even I’m trying to be as cool you see that’s why you’re an actor and I’m trying to 308 do this. I look like I look like a contest winner or something I look like ‘Oh my God it’s Hugh 309 Jackman’ 310 [HJ] Don’t touch my hair, [JF: aaa I’m sorry] don’t touch it 311 [JF] Eh eh he it’s the first time a a robot has AI [HJ: uhm] that could be Hhhhh that could be 312 smarter than human. 313 [HJ] yes 314 [JF] so Chappie becomes a [HJ: it’s a thinking feeling robot that] yeah it’s almost like a little baby 315 that grows up 316 [HJ] I tell you everyone’s gonna fall in love with hhh sorry I can’t do this [JF: Hhhh] Welcome back 317 to Taxi TV, no everyone’s gonna fall in love eith this robot i- it when it’s turned on it’s like an 318 innocent child and it’s yeah I mean apart from my character and the mullet you’re gonna love 319 this robot 320 [JF] yeah eh we have a clip here’s Hugh Jackman and his mullet [HJ: he heh] in Chappie take a 321 look it’s out this weekend 322 [JF] I know you 323 [HJ] I know you [JF: Taxi TV] Taxi TV eh more of Hugh Jackman when we come back in a minute, 324 [JF: Chappie] Chappie 325 [JF] Everybody I’m here with Hugh Jackman, star of Chappie, which is in theaters and IMAX 326 everywhere on Friday, go check it out. We’re about to play a really fun game called Musical 327 Beers. Now before we begin, we need a few more players. So please welcome some of our 328 good pals from Saturday Night Live. Colin Jost, Kate McKinnon and Bobby Moynihan. 329 Thank you, thank you, thank you guys for joining the show. Also joining us tonight is this 330 week’s host of Saturday Night Live. Give it up for Chris Hemsworth. Get ready get ready oh 331 my God. 332 [CH] Where’s my wig, where’s my wig 333 [HJ] I think he’s a little jealous 334 [CH] I’m a little short on the back and sides, yeah 335 […] 336 [JF] That’s a great show that’s a great show of mullets, Mullets Incorporated. 337 [HJ] Taxi TV 338 [JF] Taxi TV, you gotta watch it. All right so look this game works like Musical chairs but instead of 339 diving into empty chairs we’re grabbing cups of beer ok? While the music’s playing we’ll walk 104

340 around in circle around this table and when the music stops everyone has to grab a cup, after 341 each round there’ll be one person left empty-handed wa wa. 342 [Musical Beers] 343 [JF] That’s my bro that’s my bro. Sorry my man. Come on down everybody, come on down. I love 344 you guys thank you for… My guests were Hugh Jackman, Chris Hemsworth, Kate McKinnon, 345 Colin Jones, Bobby Moynihan, Tiffany Thiessen joins us Tiffany Thiessen will join us after the 346 break, till then she’s in the x-box green room 347 [JF] You know our next guest from her work on Saved by the Bell, Beverly Hill 902 10 and White 348 Collar. Man these are big shows, you can currently see her hosting her own show Dinner at 349 Tiffany’s airing Wednesdays at 10 pm on Cooking Channel. Ladies and Gentlemen please 350 welcome Tiffany Thiessen. 351 Fantastic come on, look at you. Congratz. See this is why I didn’t ask you eh to play Musical 352 Beers, because of this that’s the only reason 353 [TTh] I was a little offended I have to say. 354 [JF] Yeah yeah exactly I’m glad you you chose not to do that. Eh now this will be number two 355 right baby? 356 [TTh] Yeah number two and a little boy this time 357 [JF] oh is that right a little boy. Your daughter is the most cutest thing in the world [TT: That’s 358 sweet] She’s just adorable. How she’s four? 359 [TTh] She’s four and a half 360 [JF] yeah she told me 361 [TTh] Yeah she did I’m four and a half 362 [JF] And a half yeah so cute little is she excited about her little brother? 363 [TTh] Oh she’s ecstatic she keeps every day ‘Is he ready yet? Is he ready?’ like it’s a cake heh 364 [JF] Is she trying to name the baby? 365 [TTh] Yeah, the first name she came up with because she knew it was a boy was was Spiderman 366 [JF] There you go con- consider it 367 [TTh] It’s a good name and I’m sure daddy would actually probably be ok with it but I think we’ll 368 think of something else. 369 [JF] Yeah we’ll think of something Spiderman it’s not that bad 370 [TTh] I know 371 [JF] Eh did you get good feedback from what we did this Sat- 372 [TTh] What feedback I didn’t hear anything 373 [JF] No come on we [TT: I’m kidding] I mean we our Saved by the Bell sketch 374 [TTh] I know isn’t that crazy? 375 [JF] I mean look at you. Crazy. It was so much fun you guys were all so nice me I mean we were 376 all very nervous 377 [TTh] Same I mean it was so much fun you guys made it so much fun for us you did you really did. 378 [JF] yeah but I mean we tried to get it down and everything down to a 105

379 [TTh] everything down, the locker numbers, the trash can, the staircase [JF: really?] everything 380 [JF] ok good yeah I just wanna make sure [TT: oh you did oh you did] we had everything. And 381 everyone some people thought online that that was just a character choice that we made 382 you’re you Kelly Kelly pregnant 383 [TTh] Everybody exactly thought it was part of the sketch I was like no people that’s not fake. It’s 384 real promise 385 [JF] It did so well it was just but it was the biggest thing we’ve done I think ever as far as going 386 viral on our show eh it’s like it just went exploded 387 [TTh] you know it’s funny, I think all of us knew it would do well because we’ve been having this 388 pressure and been hearing about people wanting to see the reunion 389 [JF] yeah 390 [TTh] I never in my life thought it was gonna be like that, I think we’re almost like thirty thirty 391 million or something 392 [JF] yes thirty million people watch on just on youtube that kind you know amazing 393 I have to say you look the same [TT: oh you’re sweet] you look the same I mean you’re 394 gorgeous but look this is a side by side photo look at this. You look the same it’s like oh my 395 gosh you didn’t age it’s so good 396 [TTh] the bangs were just a little of but we tried. I didn’t do they still make ( ) I’m not sure 397 [JF] yeah oh trust me they do eh yeah eh I gotta say, I’m in love with your new show [TT: Oh 398 you’re so sweet] and not only the title is genius [TT: yeah] Dinner at Tiffany’s 399 [TTh] I know it was kind of perfect right? 400 [JF] Why the- there’s not been a Chef named Tiffany for all these years? [TT: I guess not] It’s 401 brilliant I wish I thought of it, it’s so good. And I’m watching the thing and I go ehm cause I 402 love cooking shows [TT: Do you? Do you cook at all?] I I have cook books 403 [TTh] ok [JF: yeah] it’s a start it’s a start 404 [JF] I’m trying to because I-I-I-I don’t eh cause some things I’m just not and it takes me just too 405 long and so once I’m done I go there you go there’s one hamburger Patty now who else 406 wants to eat something. But I don’t know how to eat how to make [TT: cook for all those 407 people yeah] cook for all those people 408 [TTh] It’s definitely it’s time consuming you have to yeah it’s a rhythm, you gotta have a rhythm it’s 409 it’s 410 [JF] and have a ti- it’s all about timing 411 [TTh] timing and yeah and alcohol, alcohol is the one thing you need in the kitchen 412 [JF] oh trust me, then I am a cook I’m a very, a good cook. I’ve watched a ton of episodes I you 413 know that I watch in one of them was a barbeque. I’m obsessed with barbeque, you did a 414 barbeque rub and you did and the sauce the barbeque sauce [TT: yep] double whamming 415 [TTh] double whamming, I married a Texan we gotta we I gotta know how to do ribs 416 [JF] yeah as I see, Texas don’t mess with Texas man absolutely yeah [TT: don’t mess with Texas] 417 and the tea, the peach tea that you made I love that, I never see I couldn’t get that far I 106

418 would just get to the alcohol and then just put an ice cube in it and just go with that but you 419 mixed with other things which is very interesting yeah 420 [TTh] you know the cocktail thing is new thing for me that I’ve been doing for the last couple of 421 years so I feel very grown up you know doing cocktails now, it’s kinda fun [JF: yeah but but in 422 the ball jars] very Tom Cruise 423 [JF] in the, exactly ehm but also how comfortable you are and it’s almost like I was like how did 424 you remember all these recipes or doing thin- cause it moves and it’s fun and you’re funny 425 and you do different voices and you’re like ‘This one’s gonna go slow-low for three hou-’ and I 426 go look at you you’re like 427 [TTh] I’m a such a dork I am I’m a big dork 428 [JF] Oh my gosh no way it’s so exciting and so fun and I was going to actually do a shot or 429 something with you but of course 430 [TTh] eh it’s not gonna happen tonight 431 [JF] for [TT: we can do it in the back no one will know] Spiderman I’m not gonna do it for 432 Spiderman’s sake we’re not doing it but we are having 433 [TTh] I did I brought you some I brought you some treats though and the second best to me you 434 know besides alcohol it chocolate so these are actually ehm these are actually a chocolate 435 peanut butter bites. Like a version of [?] yeah I know they’re so good they 436 [JF] this is yeah so this is chocolate peanut butter how you 437 [TTh] so basically it’s peanut butter crunchy peanut butter [JF: ehm] and powdered sugar and then 438 it’s chocolate on the outside and it’s pretty awesome right? 439 [JF] oh my gosh, the bummer is heh The Roots have to fight for these last four how is this gonna 440 go 441 [TTh] no I actually have more for you guys I have them all for you guys too 442 [JF] have them for the audience, no, no congratz on everything 443 [TTh] thank you 444 [JF] thank you for this congratz on the baby, congratz on the show Dinner at Tiffany’s most genius 445 on Cooking Channel 446 [TTh] thanks guys 447 [JF] eh guys Tiffany Thiessen, the best. Come back whenever. Wednesdays at 10 pm on Cooking 448 Channel. Stick around everybody. Hozier perform for us after the break come on everybody 449 Our next guest scored record breaking honors with this smash smash hit song Take Me to 450 Church. Here tonight to perform his new single Work Song. Give it up for Hozier. 451 [JF] Hey, that’s how you do it. That’s how you do it right there buddy, awesome. Hozier. Yeah, 452 pick up his tough title on EP in stores right now, we’ll be right back everybody. 453 [JF] My guests were Hugh Jackman, Tiffany Thiessen, Chris Hemsworth, Colin Jost, Kate 454 McKinnen, Bobby Moynihan, Hozier and The Roots right there ladies and gentlemen. Stay 455 tuned for Late Night with Seth Meyers. Thank you for watching, have a great night. I hope to 456 see you tomorrow. Bye-bye everybody. 107