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Vol. 789 Thursday No. 111 15 March 2018 PARLIAMENTARYDEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDEROFBUSINESS Royal Assent.....................................................................................................................1757 Questions Brexit: Fashion Industry...............................................................................................1757 Children: Missed Education .........................................................................................1760 Schools: Outdoor Classroom Day ................................................................................1762 Online Hate Speech ......................................................................................................1764 Procedure Committee Motion to Agree............................................................................................................1767 Integrated Communities Statement......................................................................................................................1768 Building Safety Update Statement......................................................................................................................1780 Revised Draft Airports National Policy Statement Motion to Take Note.....................................................................................................1791 Economy: Spring Statement Motion to Take Note.....................................................................................................1814 Grand Committee National Minimum Wage (Amendment) Regulations 2018.........................................GC 173 Works Detrimental to Navigation (Powers and Duties of Inspectors) Regulations 2018.............................................................................................................................GC 179 Criminal Justice and Police Act 2001 (Powers of Seizure) Order 2018 .......................GC 184 Passport (Fees) Regulations 2018................................................................................GC 188 Considered in Grand Committee Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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Will they therefore reflect carefully on the appropriate balance within the UK’s Thursday 15 March 2018 future intellectual property regime between the producer interest and the consumer interest and make sure that 11 am they are not unduly influenced by producer lobbies? Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Newcastle. Lord Henley: My Lords, obviously we will take account of all those who have an interest. The noble Lord is right to draw that to my attention. He will be Royal Assent aware that we went through a major reform of intellectual property rights with the 2014 Act, which I think was 11.06 am discussed at length in this House—fortunately, I was The following Acts were given Royal Assent: not involved. I am not sure that the noble Lord would Finance Act, want to go through that process again, but there are SupplyandAppropriation(AnticipationandAdjustments) some minor changes that need to be made as a result Act, of leaving. Space Industry Act, City of London Corporation (Open Spaces) Act. Lord Foster of Bath (LD): My Lords, not only will we need reciprocal arrangements with the European Union with regard to intellectual property, including Brexit: Fashion Industry unregistered design rights, but does the Minister accept Question that we will also need them with regard to enforcement of intellectual property rights, currently carried out in 11.06 am part by Europol? How will that enforcement be carried Asked by Lord Clement-Jones out? Toask Her Majesty’sGovernment what assessment Lord Henley: My Lords, again, that will be a matter they have made of the impact on the fashion and for discussion as part of the leaving process. other design-based industries of the potential loss of European unregistered design rights for United Baroness Goudie (Lab): My Lords, we have a problem Kingdom-generated designs following Brexit. of indecision. Organisations such as fashion week will disappear from London. The amount of GDP that TheParliamentaryUnder-Secretaryof State,Department fashion week brings to this country is enormous. As for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (Lord Henley) we are not doing very well in other parts of the world, (Con): My Lords, as expressed in the United Kingdom we really need it to continue. Will the Government technical note on other separation issues, where the assure those industries that they are welcome here, UK does not have existing domestic legislation to protect and do so quite quickly, otherwise they will look to go certain types of rights, it will establish new schemes. to Paris and Milan, because they are asking and This will preserve the full scope of the unregistered baiting them to come? Community design right in the United Kingdom. Lord Henley: My Lords, the noble Baroness is Lord Clement-Jones (LD): My Lords, the hard exit taking a rather pessimistic view of things, but we are from the EU means the loss of EU unregistered aware of those risks. When one thinks of the strengths Community design rights and of vital protection for of the industry in this country, I think it is very unlikely designers who first disclosed their design in the UK. to leave overnight. We will be in discussion with people This is just the way to lose London Fashion Week. We such as those at the British Fashion Council and listen have discussed the problems with loss of country of to their particular concerns. As I said, we will continue origin rights for our broadcasters. Is this not yet with our negotiation as part of the leaving process. another example of why the creative industries want us to remain in the single market? Lord Howell of Guildford (Con): Did my noble friend notice the highly successful Commonwealth Lord Henley: My Lords, I am not going to get into fashion event the other week, which demonstrated the wider debate about the EU at this stage, but what I that London fashion was roaring ahead regardless of can say, to expand on my Answer, is that we will bring Brexit? It involved wider-world influences in a highly forward various statutory instruments in this country successful and satisfactory way. to further our rights here. The negotiations will take place with the EU as part of the leaving process, which Lord Henley: My Lords, sadly, I missed that, but I we hope will deal with these matters, but there are am very grateful to my noble friend for bringing it not also, as the noble Lord is fully aware, what I think I only to my attention but, more importantly, to the can call inclarities in the current EU regulations, which attention of the House. obviously need to be sorted out by the EU itself. Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Lab): My Lords, Lord Howarth of Newport (Lab): My Lords, in as a dedicated follower of fashion—that gives away framing new law for the period following Brexit, will one’s age, does it not?—I would add that although the the Government be mindful that intellectual property IP itself is important, we also need our lawyers to 1759 Brexit: Fashion Industry [LORDS] Children: Missed Education 1760 [BARONESS HAYTER OF KENTISH TOWN] ability to govern itself. Does he think that that is simply continue to represent any of our designers when they a lack of confidence in this country, or that it might be appear in courts in other countries. We also need the because the Liberal party will never be in government models and others to be able to move across borders again? so that they can perform or show their wares. Will the Minister give some assurance that, in the discussions Lord Henley: I did serve in government with the on Brexit and the ability to move for work, this will be Liberal Democrat party in the past. Whether that will uppermost in their minds? happen again is a matter for speculation, but I suspect it is unlikely that I would be part of that, and one would Lord Henley: Yes, my Lords, we will