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LEONARD ElllSEll1S!r feriesrlemsr Sheriff. She EntEnt S-Ttngs, S-r•2ngs, Arttel4e‘t Arttal4ect presently employedemployed as as AssistantAssistant Mataget.Mataget. •7f•7f ATt!tvryA7t!tvry Interprises, that ownown andand operateoperate severalseveral aztelssztels ftft h.::to:: SprIngisSprings!t advis-41 as follows:follows:

Be was in Dallas, Texas during the svrstmner,/•er cfel 1963, attending a PGA gtlf tournsrcrttourhasert elth ZACK PARIS and • others. BeBe statedstated he he area AILS 4thr-rother fr!qr, fIcgtBcgt Springs, Arkansas,Arkansas, visitedvisited tarethe clubclub rtfr-f Pb, and becimv, acquainted withwith him.him. LaterLater thatthat ealJeP1_4 eventrg,Pwentrg, Rt.TYR72BY visit,dvisit'd" their roomroom to have several drinks. 1 ELLIS furtherfurthrr statedstated that PnlqPefq- c-entinvItIlycortivuelly discuses!discus' ld law ihYorcementOhYorcement workwork andand hiehie assiettn.*assiettne toto ic%:s:ic%:s: egifioersegIffoers on occasions duringduring practios.lypractios.ly t'the et*" ett:re :re .:ortverstitionc‘onverstition behe had with RUBY. ELLISELLIS IsIs ofof the epi:t!ar. tkatt)at FVBIFVBI wsswas extrefirilyextrvmnly interested inin policepolice workwork andand theythey ccinfll.re2e.me11,re2 hle!.hle toto bebe a fanatic in this regard. JtZ:IS elablwatedelahlwated considerably concerning air allege-- d *rtre*ttre he,he, Rtthi,RUNi, claimed bebe savedsaved thethe lites /lies tf Tit two two ball,?! ba1lvt P.:11:43 F,.12 "•6 Olficcers ClfirFrs on one occasion.occasion. -ELLIS-ELLIS was%as usableunable tz_t re-cs1;re-cal; tnt specific story asas told by RUBYRUBY conrert1ng conc'ertlng ha& Lae s‘i.11 ,* Itre polloepolite -ofiiorre. lives. ELLIS ELLIS waswas unableunable to1.; furelEbfurnish infiticiz ofcf a & apeciiicspeciiic nature, but gained thethe impress:cr. tt.*t ft:PIwAs SAS tteate type type.tbst Oat preferred toto alwaysalways re re presentpresent wherewhere lip lip t-11::rcseett tni::rceftt ollicersofficers were performingperforming their their dAlty. -duty. R1Bf* RIB/ did didr7., !!....^_t:.m%!!,-.^_t:.r,n any any vexesvases of specificspecific officersofficer& he hemight might ktie ktie btf-t 1,::wzc-c-caitredcaltttd with.with. RUTSEL TS was unable toto furnishfurnish thethe identitiesidentities ofof ct!:frct!:fr- individuals acquainted withwith RUBY. RUBY. ELLIS also also adfisedadvised that hP ..haaba$ xererxever -- cbservedobserved JACK JACK RUBY in in Not Springs andand belteves be RUBYRUBY F.8-!., sv..8.1- ,r.ned.51:d atat tnetne titime se he waswas at hishis roam ream in DalDallas, lab, that he.he, PP - 7:1-f.Lad Lad nrverncver been toto SotHot Springs,Springs, Arkansas.Arkansas.

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TM.This document document ecettelae eentslas sender sender recommendallone recommendations moor moor ccesemetoee conemeices of of Ike tint F. F11.tt no ittUm is propertytbs, property el tbs elraz tbs peed FRI alba leI. loanedloaned toto roaryour agesuyiagency; It ft sad sad its Us tautest* sontssts sr* slitsr* to aft be to distributed be distributed estside outside velar sipossey. rear sseney. .11432 4•14.40) EDE•IAL.EDE•IAL BUREAUBUREAU OF INVESTIGA'INVESTIGV 1. •

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MEYER reAKITZ,drAFITZ, Apartment 21, 140 Albert Street, furniebd thethe foriovingfo]loving inrormationinrormation concerningconcerning JACKJACK RUBENSTEIN:RUBENSTEIN: PANITZ has been employed in the gambling profession most of his life. Be obtained gambling work when be moved to Dallas, Texas in 1944. PANITZPANITZ isis presently'omployedpresently ' employed as a box man in the casino at the Thunderbird Motel,Rotel, Las Vegas, Nevada.

PANITZ met JACK RUBY in 1947. Be knew RUBY'S true name toto be be JACK JACK RUBENSTEIN. RUBENSTEIN. PANITZPANITZ consideredconsidered biliselfhimself's:a ----f- gvodgc.,od friend of RUBY's duringduring the time he knew him, which was from 1947 to the summer of 1958, when be left DallaDallas.s. RUBY was the type of person that wanted people to agree withwith himhim andand behe wouldwould 'getget intointo argument$3argumente3 with persons whowbo disagreed with him. RUBY was not a violent person, however.however. RUBYRUBY alwaysalways hadhad ideasideas aboutabout .discoveringAlecovering a nemnev entertainer. RUBYRUBY wouldwould promotepromote oror. backback somesome entertainer.entertainer. . but never was successful, to PAN1TZ's knqwledge,knowledge,- of discovering a star. RUBY made aa goodgood livingliving operatingoperating tbetbe Wegaliez4cVegaVez4b Club inin Dallas.Dallas. BecauseBecause of this employment and business, be was acquainted with many people in Dallas. RUBY hired off-duty DallasDallas policemenpolicemen onon weekendsweekends asas bouncersbouncers at'bisatlas club. RUBY RUBY waswas acquaintedacquainted withwith aa goodgood manymany ofof thethe Dallas Police Officers and the Dallas police knew RUBY. , RUBY was an honest business man and bad a forward type of personality.personality. RUBYRUBY badbad aa bugbug forfor attendingattending public events, and behe was always trying to meet people. PANITZ has no knowledge as to the politics of RUBY. 3 PANITZ hashas notnot seenseen RUBYRUBY sincesince 19591959 inin MiamiNlamiSeach, Beach, Florida. PANITZ talked with RUBY about five or six months ago by phone while passing through Dallas, Texas.

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it Avenue Dallas. 1T1f advised that onon Sunday,Sunday, NovemberNovember 2*,2*, 1963, at approximate y 11:30 a.m. be, in company with three companions,companions, were in Athens, Texas, in connection with the openingopening of a motel in that city.

POTTER and and his his group group were were entering entering the the OldOld SpanishSpanish TraceTrace dining room of of thisthis sol.elmotel whenwhen aa waitrvsswaitress dresseddressed inin aa redred toreador costume (presumably(presumably thethe hostess) informed informed his his group group that that OSWALD OSWALD badhad justjust been shot.shots , This girl informed informed POTTER POTTER that that she she used used to to workwork forfor JACKJACK RUBY,RUBY, and during the time she was working forfor RUPYRUBY she was living with a Detective of the Dallas PolicePolice Department Department whowho toldtold herher thatthat ROTROT waswas aa °shady°shady character." She also volunteered the information that RUBY bad at oneone time toldtold her, "YoueTou don't know bow many Communists there are in the United StatesStates,"

POTTER described this person as;

Race White Sex Female Age Approximately 35 Build Slender, talltall Height Approximately S°7*5•7" or S*8*5'9" Complexion Dark Hair Dark, upsweptupswept POTTER thought thought it it was unssualunusual thatthat this personperson wouldwould volunteer information of this type, inasmuch as he and his three companions were couplet.complete strangers. •

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JANES KENNEDY at.d by Special Agents JAMES C. KENNEDY acd Date dictated 17/3/63 WILIMAIWNWILLAHATDFN GRIFFIS:bnm GRIFFIV:bnm ri›40mpum.114411)rp40mtflov.114411) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

J._ DeDeis. 12/2/63 The subscriber to telephone number Exbrook 76488 is the Moulin Rouge, DAVE RAPKIN, Owner, 4123 - Broadway, San Francisco. DAVE RAPKIN advised he has never met JACK RUBY, nor has he been inin contactcontact withwith himhim byby mailmail oror telephone.telephone. - Be saidsaid thatthat hishis wife,wife, DONNA,DONNA, mademade aa triptrip to Texas approxi- mately two yearsyears agoago toto spot talent for the Moulin Rouge, a San Francisco night club featuring strippers. RAPKIN saidsaid that the telephonetelephone inintis Its establishmentestablishment is accessible to many individuals in the evening hours.hours. SeBe . pointed out that in past years he has employed girlsgirls whowho worked thethe circuitcircuit throughthrough Texas,Texan, although none of them is presently appearing at the club. Be related that he has had occasional dealings withwith a booking agent named JACK COLE in Dallas and COLE's partner, PAPPY SHOALS (phonetic), who have offices located in the Interban Building on Jackson Street, Dallas.

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12/2/6312/2 /63 I v"otemete Mrs. DONNA RAPKIN, wife of DAVE RAPKIN, 412E Broadway, San Francisco, advised she visited Dallas, - Texas, in 1961 to look for entertainers and talent for her club. She said she was in the Theater Lounge, a Dallas night spot, with JACK COLE and was introduced on this occasion to JACK RUBY. She had not previously seen him nor has she seen or beard from him since that time. She stated that RUBY indicated he was in the process of opening a clubclub inin DallasDallas known known as the Carousel Club,Club, andand be discussed the availability of talent for this club in the SanSan FranciscoFrancisco area. area. Mts. Mts. RAPKIN RAPKIN waswas unable to recall anything further concerning RUBY. Mrs. RAPKINRAPKIN couldcould notnot accountaccount for for a atelephone telephone • call from RUBY'sRUSY's placeplace ofof businessbusiness inin DallasDallas toto thethe Moulir.MouHr. Rouge, unless it could have beenbeen a callcall by by bookingbooking agents JACK ECOL or PAPPY SHOALS, made on one of the many pay phones at thethe CarouselCarousel Club,Club, toto SanSan Francisco.Francisco. She saidsaid - - .. there is also a possibility that one of the girls who have appeared at the Moulin Rouge might have some acquaintances in Dallas who could have called at the Moulin Rouge teltroone.teltnione.

SF 44-494 11/29/610 San Francisco, California FootFa. , DLDL 44-1639 /09 by Special Agent 5 WILLIAM N. 1KIDWELVIg GERARD JAM:Etat.t, dictated 12/2/63 6 NORTON/eah

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DDot.ate 12/2/63 12/2/63 • -••-• •••,_•••• • ...• .111....••••■ • • .. •• . . . . .A.'IMOGY0EGGY RAYMOND was - interviewedintervietred at-the Moulin Rouge,Rona*, 412B Broadway, San Francisco, and advised that she appeared as an entertainer atat thethe MoulinMoulin RougeRouge and,and, inin thethe past,-pasts- atat the Theater Lounge, in Dallas. She said she was last employed in Dallas in 1961. She recalled meeting JACK RUBY, stating this was a casual meeting of little or no consequ9nce. She is aware of the fact that RUBYRUBY ownsowns atat leastleast oneone nightnight clubclub inin DallasDallas andand • " that be was involved in the operation of theCarousel Club in 1961. She has not beard from or seen RUBY since that time. She could not account for a telephone call from • RUBY's place ofof businessbusiness inin DallasDallas toto thp)foulinthPyoulin RougeRouge,l .- unless it could have been a call by JACK COLE or PAPPY SHOALS, booking agents in Dallas, made on one of the many pay station phones at the Carousel Club, to San Francisco. She said there is also. a possibility that one of the girls who have appeared at the Moulin Rouge might have some acquaintances in Dallas who could have called at the Moulin Rouge telephone.

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SFSr 4444-494 -494 en 11/29/63,,11/29/63,,San San Francisco,Francisco, CaliforniaCalifornia FoolFoe I, DLDL 44-163944-1639 WILLIAM N. KIDWELL and IA9 by Special Agent'Agents, OBR.ARDGERARD JAMES JAMES NORTON NORTON fimit,h /eel • DateDot. dictatedelicse.41 12/2/63 12/2/63

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CLAREN z 11YllY-Atr.set.,_Sulpha;-At.rest._Sulpha; Springs, Texas,Texas, advised advised SA SA JAMES JAMES L. L. WILLIAMSON WILLTAYSON he he was was inin Houston temporarily in connection with his automobile trans- porting business. BABre advised advised behe has has known known JACK JACK RUBY RUBY as as a club manager in Dallas since about 1950 and has freguentedfrequented. his places of business since then. BeHe advised he waitwant toto _Cuba for two days in late 1959 and in early 1960 he was back in Dallas and went to the Vegas Club and saw RUBY. HeBe mentioned he badhad been to Cuba andand - RUBY stated stated he he had had recently recently been been to to CubaCuba himself, himself, as bebe andand some associates associates werewere trying toto getget some some gamblinggambling concessions at a casino there butbut it diddid notnot work work out. 7 He statedstated he waswas at thethe VegasVegas ClubClub-on on thisthis occasionoccasion with CHESTERCHESTER MYERS MYERS (phonetic), (phonetic), a head a head waiter waiter who who resides resides in in anan apartment about about the the 5000 5000 block block of ofHall Hall Street Street in in Dallas. Dallas. lieSe Said MYERSMYERS appeared appeared to to be be wellwell acquaintedacquainted with with RUBY. RUBY..

RECTOR stated that he had no othertniormation con- - corning RUBY, as his knowledge of him is so limited.

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owO..e NovemberNovember 29,29, 19631963

JOSEPE Pe ROSSI, Real Estate, 231 Mercantile Continental Building, Dallas, Texas,7ex4e, voluntarily advised as follows at Browns.; ville, Texas, on November 25, 1963. ROSSI stated stated thatthat hehe and and JACK JACK RUBY, whose whose real real name is is RUBENSTEIN, were both born inin thethe 24th Ward in Chicago;Chicago; however,however, they dic not know each other until about eleven years ago when they metmet in RUBY had had the the Silver Silver SpurSpur Club and later the VegasVegas Club. RaSIROSSI saidsaid that that he he does does not not know know any any of of RUBY'S RUBY's family but knowsknows thatthat theythey areare airsAV, andand thatthat JACKJACK RUBY observes Jewish religousreligous customs.cortomE. .. - ROSSI knowsknows of of no cr:.,fc'tioncr:.,er-tien between between JACK JACK RUBY RUBY and-LER.and lEE. BAliVEY OSWALD. . . . _ . ROSSI des.::ribed RUBYRUBY asas havinghaving aa badbad tempertemper andand asas beingbeing highlyhighly eLational.ei.,ational. ROSSI ROSSI said said that that be be ha* ha* heardheard thatthat RUBYRUBY criedcried whenwhen he learnedleayncd t. i the oeath of the late President FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT at WarrWarr Ep-ings, Georgia.Georgia. RUBYRUBY waswas describeddescribed asas being very anti- CommComm' rest rest but not aa membermember of. of. anyany wing hatehate groups".- In ROSSI described described RUBYRUBY us us being being "a 24th24th WardWard ChicagoChicago JAKE AEVEY AEVEY Democrat". Democrat". ROSSI ROSSI knows knows of ofno no.connections connections on the part of MY with gamblersgambler. oror organize6organize crimecrime exceptexcept toto knowknow some of these i'rz:haracters".:haracters"- personally. ROSSI said that he knows of rn e friendships or relations that RUBY ever had with anyone k,nkz; Pclice Department. RoSSTROSSI last sawsaw RUBY in Dallas on November 20, 1963, at which time RUBY discussed opening a new clUb and wanted ROSSI to investinvest money in the olub and perhape help in the management of the ,- venture. RUBY talked of future plans at that timetism in a manner to indicate thatthat bebe diddid notnot anticipate getting into any sortsort of trouble. ROSSI said that when RUBY was identified over the television asas the wan whowhc killed OSWALD that ROSSI'.ROSSI'. first thoughts were that RUBY was the type emotional enough tcdo that sort of thing. ROSSI believes that RUBY's m:Aivem:Alve in killing OSWALD was the over simplified solution of a simple and emotional man for obtaining Justicejustice in the case. ROSSI noted that persons who hadbad seen OSWALD killed killed byby IRU4Y, RUBY

cm 11/25/6311/25/63 et Brownsville,Brownsville, TexasTexas Foe ,, SASA 44-74844-748 - by SAS THOMAS W. CRAWFORD and CLAY ZACHRYJRZACHRYAROate dictated 11/26/63 .r in

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rn the t ronl,:ekei juFtju't pwicirprier toto thethe shootingshooting thzyr- • • 2:::; hl:Thl:•-; Jr. Qn tannexm....nnex reflecting reflecting recognition.recognition. ROSSI L;I:. th•tt :tult, 1:1!. Ic-Ac2c-Ac aia.5nia.5 one c.of curiosity and pcii,1-.2 'MYPULY durl:mg T. ce'upce. up :Ifcf TexasTexas pe,oepeace officersofficers would • --1; .-t .A1.%11.% a tli:rat%.*tliTfat%.* BOSS! BOSS! stie stie thatthat RUBYRUBY *ore*ore a b:.1 - CliCAZOClicitzo LCS2.iUM LCS2.iUM rat"hl.T" WhiCh WhiCh WasWas perhapsperhaps unL.In ttc..! REeTREeT wel.e this same type of gra7- itzt all Arai th.ltthlt it it *iti; *is someirxtsomeirxt of a bidgc. refie7Tinr, a r c.;lgin. +LEI&El n&cicrround.n&cicrround. InIn thethe past, -ax-7.1-iinct In Re3:1I: csf HMIHMI ts.ve twe "kid.nkta-1^d RUBY about - L1 t.

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MORT SEDER, SEDER, 30 North30 North Judson Judson Street, Street, advised advised that that he is the authorized user of telephone credit card under phone number Gloversville 4-3087.4-3087. ThisThis numbernumber isis listedlisted toto hishis father-in-law, LEWIS BROTT. He stated that hebe has spent many years in Dallas, Texas, and that apap rr -imatelyImately eighteight yearsyears agoago he was the roommate of GEORG SENA R He has known SENATOR approximately 30 years an believed that SENATOR was originally from the Gloversville, New York area. He stated that he lived with SENATOR approximately four years. Subsequently, SENATOR became JACK RUBY's roommate. He stated that some time during the Summer of 1963, he visited SENATOR at 223 SouthSouth Ewing,Ewing, Street Street,,,s_Dsligi,_Texar 4011ALL_Texarao AktrtnentlekAktrtioent1Ua8 SENATOR did not have a phone so be let him into RUBY's apartment, #207, at that same location, end he used - RUBY's phone to call his wife in Gloversville, New York. He reached her through Gloversville 4-3087. He stated that he first met RUBY in around July or August, 1962, through SENATOR, and has only had occasions to speak with RUBY twelve to fifteen times since. He stated that be is not closely associated with RUBY and probably never would have been if it had not been for SENATOR. Be stated that he was enroute from Dallas, Texas, to Gloversville, NewNew York,York, whenwhen PresidentPresident KENNEDY KENNEDY was was assassinated. assassinated. , He stated that he saw "live" on television the murder of OSWALD but be did not recognize RUBY until be waswas named in subsequent rebroadcasts of the scene. He stated thatthat hebe waswas veryvery muchmuch surprisedsurprised toto hear of RUBY's role in the affair.

Onon 11/2916411/29164 Gloversville, New York File IFI Albany 44-267 Dallas 44-1639 il/iff bbyy SA GERARDCE RD t. PEEKIRS:pabPELKTAN:Pal, Oat.Date dictateddictated 11/29/63 )

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The following investigation was conducted by SASA GERARD A.PEEKOS:A. 'PERMS:

AT GLOVER:SVILLEGLOVERSVILLE NEWNEW YORK On November 29, 1963, 1963, CARRIE CARRIE TOOKER, TOOKER, Credit Credit BureauBureau - of Gloversville,Gloversville, New New York, advisedadvised that that LEWIS LEWIS BROTT, BROTT, 31 31 NorthNorth - Judson Street, Gloversville, has been on file since since 1930.1930. BROTT, a widower, is between 75 and 80 years old and has retired from the decoratingdecorating andand contractingcontracting business.business. lieBe hashas aa daughter, AUDREY SEDER,SEDER, wife of MORT SEDER, of Dallas, Te=as. 7 The files reflect that AUDREY andand MORT MORT SEDER SEDER are are known to thethe D.illasDallas CreditCredit Bureau.Bureau. TheyThey werewere marriedmarried March 9, 1963, in Dallas.Dallas. MORTMORT is is the the sonson of of Mrs. Mrs. MOLLY MOLLY SEDER, SEDER, Chicago,Chicago, Illinois. MORT at atone one time time was was self-employed self-employed as as aa manufacturer'smanufacturer's representative. His m^,stm^st recentrecent employmentemployment waswas thatthat with GINO PAOLI - net further identified but believed to be in Dallas, Texas. The SEDERS' Dallas Dallas address address was was listed listed asas 33283328 BowserBowser Street andand a recentrecent addressaddress was 3030 JudsonJudson Street, Street, Gloversville, New York. TOOKER advised thatthat she isis acquainted acquainted with the the SEDERS SEDERS and statedstated that that NANCY NANCY C. BROWNBROWN and BRUCEBRUCE BRANBROWN are are children children ofof AUDREY by one of her previous marriages.marriages.

In October, 1963, AUDREY SEDER, in opening a chargecharge account atat oneone of thethe locallocal department stores, stated that her net assets were approximately $45,000.00$45,000.00 toto 30.00. $50,030.00.60,0 -Credit -Credit investigation diddid notnot substantiatesubstantiate this. TheThe SEDERS and BROTT were rated satisfactory trade-wise.trade-wise.

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On November 29, 1963, Sergeant ALAN FOSSMIRE, Gloversville, Newhew Ycrk,Ycrk, PolicePolice Department,Department, advised that they - had no record identifiable with LEWIS BROTT„ AUDREY or MORT SEDER.

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H. SCOTT SHURIAN, 11717 Darlington Street, West Los Angeles,Angeles, telephonetelephone No.No. OROR 8-1752,8-1752, teleichniatlyteleichniatly contacted the Los Angeles Office on November 29, 1963, andand gave the following information: He is presently a news reporter for radio station KMPC, Los Angeles, California, and in 1958 was a news reporter for radio station WFAA, Dallas, Texas. This station was around the corner from the Carousel, an establishment owned by one JACK RUBY. BeHe was introduced to RUBY by DICK MC GRUDER, who was a news writer at that time for station WFAA. He secured a membership card for the Carousel Club but did not pay any inititioninitlObn fees.fees. HeHe explainedexplained thatthat thisthis waswas because RUBY liked to surround himself with radio personalities.

He knew of no political connections of RUBY but advised that he read that RUBY could be convinced to assist either right or left wing extremists if this would make him a "big man."

RUBY is a close associate of LOUIS MACWILLY, a gambler in the Dallas area, who is reputed to have "syndicate connections." MACWILLY is also alleged to-have gambling interests in Cuba. RUBYRUBY waswas alsoalso aa closeclose friendfriend ofof thethe owner of the University Club in Dallas, whose name he cannot recall. He stated that this was in 1958 and the owner was a small- time gambler in the Dallas area.

Hecould not envision RUBY having any political notions one way or the other and knew of no connections with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. He knew of no police connections with the Carousel .Club.Club and couldcould notnot recallrecall otherother associatesassociates or girlfriends ofof RUBY.

His impression of RUBY was that he was not exactly an emotionally stable person but constantly feltfelt inferior. RUBY demanded that his employees respond instantly toto any commands.

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Re waswas unawareunaware of of howhow RUBY's RUBY's night night club club activities activities were financedfinanced inin thatthat businessbusiness was was alwaysalways veryvery poorpoor andand people inin the the news news media media were were always always wondering wondering where where RUBY RUBY got thethe moneymoney toto purchase his his clubs. SHUMAN leftleft DallasDallas inin 1959 1959 to to comecome toto LosLos AngelesAngeles and has not seen RUBY sincesince thatthat timetime butbut hashas maintainedmaintained contact with otherother peoplepeople in in DallasDallas sincesince leaving thethe area.area. El) !02 Otos.Ines. II-Nr110)11-pu40) . '(FEDERAL'(FEDERAL BUREAU BUREAU OF OF INVESTIG* INVESTIG*101

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CECIL SIMMONS, part owner, Desert Inn Hotel, Las Vegas, advised on November 25, 1963, be has not been in Dallas except for two or three visits in four or five years. Be recalled be hadbad seen JACK RUBY on no soremore than ten occasions. The times behe hadbad seen RUBY were in the Adolphus and Baker Hotels, andand bebe recalledrecalled RUBYRUBY wentwent toto thethe barberbarber - shop in the Adolpbus which was the same one that be, SIMMONS, used. RUBY had a night club across the street from the Adolphus and invited SIMMONS on two or three occasions to visit it, but SIMMONS never did. SIMMONS

stated be did not know RUBY other than to 'say belloYr.belloTr. •

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JOHN TAYLOR, Assistant Publicity Director, -. Castaways Hotel, advised that be met JACKJACK LEONLEON RUBYRUBY twotwo or three times at parties in Dallas back in 1961, and hasbas not seen him since. BeHe knows notbing about RUBY's personal or business life, nor anyany d d b bis is acquaintances,•:acquaintances,•:-: TAYLOR has never seen RUBY in Las Vegas.

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°go, December 2, 1963 77;174'.74'.44).S;Ce41-1÷•1S;Ce41-1÷• j1.13E4KINSTE1111gwner, ofof thethe reDlonySaub„DlonySlub„ 11221 Sommel'eo . Street, Dallas, Texas, Texas , was interviewed relative to an alleged meeting in approximately 1946 in Dallas between himself, PAPPY DOLSEN, operator of Pappy's Showland, (FNU) OAULDIN or OAULDING, a former Dallas County Prosecutor, JACK RUBY from Chicago and (FNU) FREEMAN, operator of a restaurant at the corner of West Commerce Street and Forth Worth turnoff, relative to the purchase of a&might .night club club in in Dallas Dallas by by RUBY RUBY who, who, reportedly reportedlyproduced produced aa roll of 4100 bills totaling 440,000.- WEINSTEIN stated he had.-.no recollection of any such meeting in 1946 or at any other time. t - At 1-1 - WEINSTEIN recalled that CECIL GAULDING, de ed, was in the mortgage loanloan businessbusiness inin Dallas, thatthat PAPP 'ZENLSEN still in in Dallas Dallas and and that.thethat-the FREEMAN FREEMAN referredreferred to,to, ased upon location of thethe restaurant'on restaurant'on West West Commerce Commerce Street and the Fort Worth turnoffturnoff referredreferred to,to, is BENis BEN FREIDMAN. FREIDMAN, FREIDMAN,FREIDMAN, who resided at the Adolphus Hotel in DallasDallas dieddied atat thethe hotelhotel imin 1960. (On December 2,2, 1963, PHELIA PHELIA MARTINEZ, Clerk, Clerk, Dallas Dallas County Bureau of Vital Statistics, 1936 Amelia Street,Street, statedstated official records records reflect BENBEN FREIDMAN,FREIDMAN, white white male, male, ageage -71,71, died in Dallas,Dallas, Texas,Texas, on SeptemberSeptember 29, 1960).1960).

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PAXTON B.H. GRAY, 3315 liebtMinister,liebthinister, Dallas, furnished the following information:

PAXTON R.H. GRAY, who is employed as an independent oil operator, was unable to recall any acquaintance or associate by the name of BEN RUBY. He checkedcheCked •address book that he bas maintained for many years and was unable to come upup withwith anyany information in the name of BEN RUBY. He advised that he had been married to NONA GRAYGRAY forfor aa periodperiod of 13 months inin 19571957-1958,-1936, BeHe livedlived withwith herher forfor aa periodperiod ofof threethree months.months. HeHe stated that she . isis anan alcoholicalcoholic and,and, whowho whenwhen drinkingdrinking andand whenwhen comingcoming out of her periodic drunks, suffers' from hallucinations and consequently her information cannot be considered reliable. BeHe stated the posibility exists that NONA GRAY has associated the name BIN RUBY with with that of an associate and friend of PAXTON R. GRAYGRAY byby the name of PHIL STEIN. Other than the above misassociation, PAXTON H.H. GRAYGRAY can think of no one whom NONA GRAYGRAY may consider being a BEN RUBY. BeHe again reiterated that the name BEN RUBYRUBY is not known to him. him. PAXTON PAXTON B.H. GRAY GRAY advisedadvised thatthat hehe does not know JACK LEON RUBY, nor does he know LEE HARVEY OSWALD. •

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0 was inter ..1 0 atat her residence, 15871587 atlytagam,...adjajzsaql_sra, atiyAmim,...agajgrartql_szci., dvised she received aiiiepaiilephone call from EVA GRANT, from Dallas, Texas, about a month ago. It was just a social call concerning mutual acquaintances including JACK RUBY. She has never met EVA GRANT personally. BELASCO advised she first met JACK RUBY in about 1936 at a dance at the Jewish Community Center in San Francisco. She saw him socially as a young teenager perhaps six times from 1936 until 1941. In November, 1941, she went to New York City with her mother and RUBY entertained her socially every weekend in November, 1941, in New York. She last saw JACK RUBYRUBY onon PearlPearl HarborHarbor Day,Day, DecemberDecember 7,7, 1941.1941. InIn November and December, 1941, when RUBY wouldWould visit her in New York on the weekends, he was employed with his youngest brother, EARL RUBENSTEIN, in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. RUBY and his brother, EARL, were running a "punch-board racket" in the industrial area around and in Wilkes Barre. She has heard RUBY refer to his relatives as a sister, EVA GRANT, his youngest sister, EILEEN, and an older brother, SAMMY. She also under- stands that RUBY has a cousin by the name of JUDY, who is employed as a waitress at Blum's Restaurant in San Francisco. She described RUBY as a young man who dressed very well and was a personable date. When EVA GPANT called Miss BELASCO,she just chatted - and talked about JACK RUBY's night club and requested that Miss BELASCO visit them. Miss BELASCO stated her telephone number is SE 1-2789. Miss BELASCO is the granddauFhtergranddaughter of the famous playwright and actor, DAVID BELASCO, who founded the Belasco Theatre in New York City. Her father, DAVID BELASCO, JR.,JR., age 70, resides in Mexico and has been divorced from her mother for about thirty-five years. Miss BELASCO is known as a very wealthy woman, who has never been married.

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Subscriber of SE 1-2789 is VIRGINIA IANJAN ELAFOELASSOL_1587 5th Avenue, San FranciteFrancitt--67-/Sau/San'Franciscp Francisco) • '1incesindices negatinegati regardingregarding BELASCO. Credit d criminal negative). / 1;_ / BELAS was interviewed at her residence and advised she recei d a telephone call from EVA GRANT from Dallas, Texas,Texas, abab tt aa monthmonth ago.ago. ItIt y2seras justjust aa socialsocial call.call concerning mutual acquaintances incluinginclu ing JACK. JACK RUBY. She has never metmet EVAEVA GRANTGRANT personally.personally. ELASCOELASCO advisedadvised she first met JACKJACK RUBYRUBY inin aboutabout 19361936 aaet / ag a dancedance atat thethe Jewish Community Center in S Francisco./ She sawsaw himhim sociallysocially, as a young teenager pe haps six times from 1936 until 1.941.1,41. In November, 1941, she ent to New York City with her mother and RUBYRUBY entertaenterta eded her`IVETTTIyher'reEriny everyevery weekweek end - - in November, 1941,1941, inin EE 'Uric: York. SheShe lastlast sawsaw JACKJACK RUBYRUBY on Pearl Harbor Day, Decembe 7,'1941. In November and December, 1941, when RUBY ould visit her in New York on the week ends, he was empl ed with his youngest brother, EARL RUBENSTEIN, in Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. RUBY and his brother EARL,EARL, werewere runrun ngng aa "punch-board"punch-board racket"racket" in the industrial area around a d in Wilke's Barre. She has heard RUBY refer to hiscrela ves as a sister, EVA GRANT, his youngest sister, EILEEN,aEILEEN,a anan olderolder brother,brother, SAINT.SAMMY. .SheShe alsoalso understandsunderstands thatthat RUBYRUBY hashas aa cousincousin by the name of JUDY, who is employed as a wait ess at Blum's Restaurant in San Francisco.Francisco. She //described R as a young man who dressed very wellwell andand waswas a'personablea 'personable te.te. When EVAEVA GRANTGRANT calledcalled I1 es ss BELASCO, BELASCO, sheshe justjust chatted and talked about JACK RUBY night club and requested that Miss BELASCO visit them. - / • Miss BELASCO BELASCO is is thethe grandgrand =ughter=ughter ofof thethe famousfamous playwright and actor, DAVID BELASCO, o founded the Belasco Theatre in New York City. HerBer father, • VID BELASCO, JR., - age 70, resides in Mexico and has been ivorced from her mother for about thirty-fiveyears. MisMI6 BELASCOBELASCO isis knownknown as a very wealthy woman,woman, whowho has never n married.

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RAYMOND T. STRCCD, part owner;owner, Star TobaccoTobacco Company, 39 South Pennsylvania Avenue, Wilkes-Barre, Pa., furnished . the following information: lir.lir. STROUD recalled a punChboardpunchboard salesman with the last name of RUBENSTEIN who made business calls in the Wilkes- Barre, Pa., area sometime between 1935 andand 1939.1939. HeHe saidsaid be • had intermittent contact with RUBENSTEIN for aa periodperiod ofof ap- proximately threethree years.years. RUBENSTEIN carried his merchandise . in his personal car and was described by Mr. STROUD as being a "floater" and a "fast operator."

Mr. STROUD further advised that RUBENSTEIN did not to his knowledge represent any specific company and he was of the opinion that RUBENSTEIN did not reside in the Wilkes- Barre area. He said he never purchased any merchandise from. RUBENSTEIN; however, RUBENSTEIN always made it a point to call upon him when he was in Wilkes-Barre.

Mr. STROUD described RUBENSTEIN as being ai white male of Jewish extraction. He could not recall any further description; however, he stated he would estimate his present age to be approximately 63. Mr. STROUD, based upon his past recollection, could not connect RUBENSTEIN with JACK RUBENSTEIN who has recently received nationwide publicity concerning the shooting of LEE HARVEY OSWALD. Mr. STROUD further advised that RUBENSTEIN was a competitor of SAM BERGER,BERBER, who formerly manufactured and sold punchboards. BER4ER'sBER4ER's placeplace ofof businessbusiness waswas formerlyformerly located at 108 South Charles Street, Baltimore, Mi.

mr. STROUD said he was contacted three or four years ago byby SAM SAM BERGER, BERGER, at which time he learned that BERGERBERBER was a member of a stock brokerage company in New York City. BERBERBERGER allegedly held a seat on the New York Stock Exchange.Exchange.

Mr.W. STROUDSTROUD saidsaid thatthat hehe waswas ofof thethe understandingunderstanding that SAM BERGERBERBER was still maintaining aa residence at Baltimore,Baltimore, MdMd.-.

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BERBER BOBROW liquor store operator, 794 McAllister Street, San rancisco,Salifornia. residence, 560 Arlington,Arlington. -San Franciscoa,selisedFrancisco.,mdllsed as folibwa„02:41,. BOBROW said that be was acquainted with RUBY, whom bebe knewknew asas "SPARKY,"."SPARKY," havinghaving metmet himhim sometimesometime in the early 1930's in San Francisco. They were both from the same neighborhood in Chicago but were not acquaintances in that city. BOBROW resided with RUBY and his sister, EVA GRANT, for about ons year when theylived in an apartment located at 345 Jones Street,Stfeet, San7Francisco. This residence occurred approximately 1936. BOBROW worked with RUBY as a newspaper sub- scription salesman for the San Francisco "News" a daily newspaper. RUBY may have beenbeen employedemployed inin a similar . capacity by other San Francisco newspapers. They were part of a group of young men who came from Chicago to San Francisco at approximately the same time and did similar. work in San Francisco. His immediate circle of friends numbered about fifteen. At thethe timetime ofof his residenceresidence with RUBY at the aforementioned address RUBY'S sister,sister, EVA,EVA, hadhad a son named RONNIE, approximately five years of age, residing with them.

Re said that RUBY waswas a'wella'well-mannered,-mannered, 10eible 10eible individual who was soft-spoken and meticulous inin hishis dressdress and appearance. Re has never known RUBY to have engaged in any illegal activity, and RUBY never expressed an in-in- terest in any type of political activity, particularly anything of aa "radical nature.- BOBROW identified RUBY with the Dallas killingskillings as a result of reading news articles concerningconcerning thesethese in- cident. Re said he probably never would have recognized RUBY'sRUDY's photograph in the newspaper, since he has not seen or heard fromfrom RUBYRUBY sincesince approximatelyapproximately 1939.1939. ReRe advisedadvised lhe lhe was aware that RUBY was in Dallas,Dallas, having heardheard this from some of his San FranciscoFrancisco acquainaacquaintances. Re stated that RUEY was known only as JACK RUBINSTEIN when he was in San Francisco. • 6

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RE: RUBY'sRUBY'S SAN FRANCISCO RESIDENCES AND EMPLOYMENT

The following investigation was conducted by SAs JOHN F. BRESLIN and FRANKLIN S. BURROUGHS at an Franciscp: is • L JACK KANT, SAlesman for Baruh Li•uor, •001 Bay Street, .• advised on November 27, 1963, that he me RUBY in 1932 or 1933 • at Sah Francisco after RUBY had ..me f Chicago. He states RUBY waswas closeclose friendfriend ofof BENNBENN ,.:4;; •• whowho was being managed at the time by KANT. KANT only knew RUBY casually, recalled he lived in Tenderloin Area, San Francisco, and attained income from hustling fight tickets and selling watches. RUBY lived with his sister in San Francisco and departed San Francisco in the late 1940's. His whereabouts thereafter unknown to KANT. KANT stated no indication of any un-American leanings Or beliefs on part of RUBY. ART POSNER, Patrolman, San Francisco Police Dipartment,Department, home address 35 Wanda Street, San Francisco, California, advised . SA WILLARD E. BASEMAN on November 27, 1963, he recalled meeting JACK LEONLEON RUBY,RUBY, whomwhom hehe knewknew asas JACKJACK andand "SPAM""SPAM" about 1935 when he, POSNER, workedworked onon aa newspapernewspaper circulationcirculation crew.crew. RUBY, BENNIE BARRISH and BILLY VEPRIN (phonetic) all came to San Francisco from Chicago together at the same time and all were in the newspaper circulation business. HeHe recalledrecalled RUBYRUBY was a circulation crew manager but he did not recall which San Francisco newspaper RUBY was affiliated with. In those days, there were four newspapers in San Francisco,"The Evening Call", "The News", "The Chronicle" and "The San Francisco Examiner" and a good circulation man, although working for one newspaper, could sell a subscription to another paper and still receive the commission. He was only a casual acquaintance of-RUBY and believes that he saw him around San Francisco until around 1936 or 1937. BILLY VEPRIN, he believed, went to Guam prior to World War II and became quite wealthy in the laundry business, returned to San Francisco and was a partner in Tommy's Joynt, a Hoffbrau Restaurant, in partnership with TOMMY HARRIS in San Francisco. This restaurant was sold subsequently to SAM GORDON, a former friend of RUBY fromfrom Chicago.Chicago. He has not seenseen RUBYRUBY since the late 1930's and had not heard anything of him until November 24, 1963. s DL 44-1639 2

On November 27, 1963, Mr. REUBEN ARIAN, residence 3789 Fillmore Street, San Francisco, owner "Supply Sergeant", a surplus store at 1550 El Camino Real, Redwood City, California, advised SA WARRENT W. RICHMOND as follows:

Mr. ARIAN in the 1930's resided in San Francisco and worked as a circulation supervisor for the "San Francisco News He stated that in this capacity, one of the people that worked for him was EVA GRANT. He said that also working off and on for the "San Francisco News" during the Depression was a person he recalled as EVA's brother and known to him as "SPARKY""SPARK?" RUBENSTEIN. Mr. ARIAN stated that SPARKY, as he knew him, was then a good looking, well liked young man with a good personality who was able to earn two or three dollars a day by door-to-door sales of newspaper subscriptions. Mr. ARIAN advised that he was not particularly close to SPARKY at that time and knew EVA GRANT much better since she worked directly under him attempting to get newspaper subscriptions for the "San Francisco News". Mr. ARIAN statedstated thatthat RUBENSTEINRUBENSTEIN was was nicknamed nicknamed SPARKY SPAM becausebecause of his short temper, but none the less he was well liked and a - good. door-to-door salesman. ARIAN recalled that EVA GRANT, when he knew her, lived on Jones Street in San Francisco between Ellis and Eddy in an apartment above Foster's Cafeteria. At that time she was married, lived with her husband and son RONNIE, then six to eight years of age.

Mr. ARIAN recalled that SPARKY,SPARK?, whom he recognized from recent newspaper articles and pictures as JACK RUBY, resided nearby, perhaps onon EddyEddy StreetStreet inin TheThe HeraldHerald Hotel.Hotel. ARIAN recalled EVA to be an excitable person, always talking and agitated. ARIAN stated that to his recollection SPARK?SPARKY had no interest whatsoeverwhatsoever inin politicspolitics and and did did not not recall recall that that SPARKY SPAM had ever expressed admiration for President ROOSEVELT or any. criticism or any other person or any other philosophy of government. According to ARIAN, although he did not know SPARKYSPARK? well, SPARKYSPAM was was never never arrested arrested whilewhile inin SanSan Francisco.Francisco. ARIANARIAN advised that he has not seen or heard of SPARKY until the events of the last week end. .+■""1" /iP9S/4P9S AS far as ARIAN could recal SPARKYlwas not led and principally associated with a JAC TEVENSON and HARR SOLLIVANT (phonetic). ARIAN recalled that like SPARK?,SPARKY, SO LIV T came rom Chicago. It was ARIAN's recollection that SOLLI ANT indicated he had known 6ngsters in Chicago prior to comin to San Francisco DI.MIL 44-1639 3

ARIAN reiterated that although RUBENSTEIN was known as SPARKY when in San Francisco, and was given that name because of a temper he knew of no occasion when that temper had caused -any difficulty for SPARKY. ARIAN recalled SPARKY as as using using the name of RUBENSTEIN and did not know him as RUBY. FD-3o2 VW,. $4.4 9) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

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ISADO1 SILVCR, 318FestCastonStreetSavannah3111F.EstGastonStreetSavannah Georaia,Ceoraia, employed at the Cue-STIFVStc--Ilcomtiffeihnd- com,s tateand- ..zZL.(Abe:cornzZL.(Abe:corn Streets,Streets, Savannah,Savannah, Georgia,Georgia, advisedadvised that during World War II he was a bartender for his brother at Bo Peep's Bar andand PoolroomPooltoym inin Savannah.Savannah. Sometime during this period, he became acquainted with JACXJAN( RUM',RUT", who came to the bar on a umbernutsber of of occasions occasions dutirR dutirR thethe timetime thatthat bebe waswas stationedstationed in Savannah with the Air Force. He suited that be could -- not recall whether or not the Air Force Base at that time was knownknoL4n asas HunterHunter AirAir ForceForce Base.Base. He stated that- RUBY drank soft drinks and engaged in conversation frequently. He stated that possibly RUBY was drawn to him because they were both Jewish. MeMk could not recall over what period of time RUBY was stationed inin Savannah. Sometime later RUBY sent him a cigarette lighter as a present. About 1954, SILVER went to Chicago on business with a friend, JOE GARVIN,GARVIN, andand whilewhile there,there, he decided to lookup RUBY. Pe believes he knew that RUBY was in the novelty business with his brother and that be called thethe business, which he presumes was known as Rubenstein's Novelty Company. He stated that be failed to reach RUBY or his brother, but learned from someone that RUBY waswas inin Texas. Be statedstated thatthat bebe has had no other contactcontact with RUBY nor has be beard anything further about RUBY until RUBY was arrested in connection with the slaying of LEE OSWALD. HeHe statecistateci thatthat whenwhen hehe saw RUBY'SRUBY's picture on television he immediately recognizedrecognized it,it, although RUBY RUBY had apparently gained some weight. Be statedstated thatthat when RUBY was was in in Savannah Savannah he hewas was quiet; quiet; didn't didn't drinkdrink alcohol;alcohol; didn't gamble,gamble, andand didn't chasechase women.women. BeRe stated stated thatthat bebe firmly feelsfeels that that RUBY RUBY was loyalloyal andand behe describeddescribed himhim asas a goodgood cleanclean fellow.fellow. Be stated thatthat be be knew knew ofof no no hoodlum hoodlum or subversivesubversive associations by by RUBY. RUBY.

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JOSEPH J. X. BAVARIN Stardust Motel 335 The Old Spanish Trail, ApartsentApartaent 201,201, Houston, advisede follows:

He had set RUBY only once three or fourfour scathemonths ago and discussed business for a few hours. HeBe had talked with RUBY twice on the telephone discussing business. BeHe knows nothing of RUBY'S background or dealings. RUBY was stated to know HAROLD TANNENBAUM,TANNENBAUM, ManagerManager ofof thethe OperaOpera House.House w 'Newliew Orleans. and LION CORNMAN, New Orleans Branch Manager of the American Guild of Variety Aritsts.

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HAROLD TANNENBAUM, 6027 Chef MontourMenteur Highway, Tropical Tourist Courts Trailer Park, Lot 32, advised hebe is presently unemployed. Be said around May 15, 1963, when'ben he was manager of the Old French Opera House,Rouse, Bourbon Street, a night club with a strip show, JACK RUBY came by the club between 11:00 PMpm and 1:00 AM in the morning, carrying a small attache' type suitcase which was tied with wrapping twine. BeHe said be was out in front of the Old French Opera House at the time and when RUBY came by, hebe gave him a pitch to get him to come into the club and spend some money. RUBY, after a short conversation, told him he was in the Samedams business in Dallas and after some time, TANNENBAUM realized that RUBY was inin thisthis typetype business.business. RUBYRUBY toldtold binhim hehe had come to New Orleans to look around as hebe had not been here for some time and would be leaving for Houston, Texas and then to Edna, Texas, the next morning. HeBe saidsaid RUBY stayed with him at the club the entire night discussing the night club business and methods of booking girls for the shows and other things of mutual interest in this business. TANNENBAUM said RUBY never left during the night except to go putout for a cup of coffee and he, himself, took RUBY to Moisant Airport that morning to catch the plane to Houston. RUBY told him he had an appointment to meet a man in Houston and then he was going to Edna, Texas to see CANDY BAR and bring her a daschund puppy.puppy. TANNENBAUMTANNENBAUM saidsaid toto thethe best of his recollection, behe believes RUBY was flying on Delta Air Lines. TANNENBAUM said he hadbad never met JACK RUBY before that night when be came to the Old French Opera HOMO.House.

- . TANNENBAUM said be cannot determine the exact date I RUBY. was here in Row Orleans but that the day after RUBY left for Houston, be,he, TANNENBAUM, made a telephone call to Edna, Texas from his ne 242-3401, to speak to RUBY about his bariiibiair- NETTNETT ONFORTOONFORTO taw,JADA •

• G • , TANNENBAUM said the calls made from the Old French Opera House Club, 601 Bourbon Street, New Orleans number 523-0930, were made by binhim to RUBY on June 5, 14 and 1919,8 1963, to discuss the hiring of JADA and JADA's contract onon July 6 and 24, 1963 were as hebe recalls in connection with his possible employment with RUBY in Dallas. Be said the

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calls from his own phone, New Orleans 242-3401 and the call from the Tropical Tourist Court, 242-5431, on July 24 and August 4, 1963, were calls be made toto RUBY to discuss the possibility of be, be, TANNENBAUM, TANNENBAUM, beingbeing employed by RUBY, as the manager of the VegasVegas Club.Club. TANNENBAUMTANNENBAUM saidsaid behe and RUBY badbad discusseddiscussed thethe possibility of his being employed as .manager of the Vegas Club as far back as July, inasmuch as he left his employment as manager of the Old French Opera House onon JulyJuly 30,30, 1963.1963. TANNENBAUMTANNENBAUM saidsaid thethe lastlast phone - call on October 30,30, 1963,1963, waswas oneone he made to RUBY to tell him he would not workwork for him inasmuch as they could not agree on the money RUBY wanted wanted to pay pay him. him. TANNENBAUM TANNENBAUM said he made some of these calls collect and on the other calls behe paid the basic rate and reversed the charges on the overtime.

TANNENBAUM said said hehe mademade twotwo trips to Dallas to see RUBY, the first time waswas 4.nin June,June, 1963,1963, atat whichwhich timetime be stayed atat thethe HolidayHoliday Inn outsideoutside ofof DallasDallas with his wife and baby. HeHe saidsaid hehe ventwent toto DallasDallas againagain onon SeptemberSeptember 6,6, 19631963 by himself and stayed with RUBY. TANNENBAUM said said hebe never beardheard RUBYRUBY mentionmention LICELIE HARVEY OSWALDOSWALD nornor hadbad he be himselfhimself seenseen thisthis individualindividual before. •

TANNENBAUM said said from from whatwhat hebe knowsknows ofof RUBY RUBY from his contacts with him,him, behe believesbelieves RUBY has a "fanatic belief in fair play" andand wouldwould believebelieve thethe ambush of the President was morallymorally wrong.wrong. InIn addition, the policeman OSWALD shot and killed was possibly a good friend of his and for the above reasons, RUBY, who was highly emotional, might be capable of killing OSWALD. TANNENBAUM said on his visits to Dallas he met at least six or more Dallas Policemen in the Carousel Lounge. HeHe saidsaid hebe metmet aa SergeantSergeant inin uniformuniform and a couplecouple of patrolmen in uniform whowho camecame intointo the Carousel when TANNENBAUM waswas present,present, andand twotwo men in plain clothes who stopped at the Carousel.

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TARRIENMAUM said saidhe also he also net net two two or or threethree moremore men inin plain clothesclothes who who RUBY RUBY introduced introduced asas Policemen.. 1WIREMMAUM stated stated he heremembers remembers one one policeman policeman told himhim thatthat RUBY RUBY had helped bin out of a scrape one tins. TAITEINMADV did did not not know know the the namesnames of anyany ofof thethe policemenpolicemen - and couldcould notnot furtherfurther identifyidentify them.them. HeHe speculatedspeculated thethe .. above described relationshiprelationship between between RUBY RUBY and and the the policepolice waswas probably thethe reasonreason the policepolice thoughtthought nothingnothing ofof RUBY RUBY beingbeing. in thethe basementbasement of of thethe Valise,Valise, TexasTexas PolicePolice StationStation atat thethe time OSWALDOSWALD was was being being transferred transferred to to another another Jail. Jail. •• C 0

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In Bure4u telephone call to Washington Field Office, November 25, 1963,'advising1963„. advising thatthat ohoh 'individualindividual statingstating his name was MILLER, 1125 14th Street, N. W., had telephonically informed the Bureau that he was a close friend . of JACK RUBY and had some pertinent information. -MILLER further stated thitt RUBY was also acquainted with THOMAS D. WEBB, JR., and CLINT MURCHISON. On November 25, 1963, SAS JAMES P. McNAMARA and CALVIN R. FORD contacted Mrs. -.SARA SWITZER, Resident Manager, 1125 14th Street, N. W., Washington, D. C. She stated that she did not have any resident in the apartment house by the name of MILLER and was unable to furnish any infonnation regarding an individual named MILLER. In addition, WILLIAMWILLIAM G.G. EPPERSONEPPERSC andand ROBERTROBERT WORTON,NORTON, residents, .of 1125 14th Street, N. W., were contacted and - advised that theythey werewere notnot acquaintedacquainted withwith alt:attr, individual named MILLER. In addition, the following persons who reside and operate businesses in the vicinity of 1125 14th Street, N. W., were contacted but were unalbe to furnish any information re-re- garding an individual named MILLER who possibly resides or frequents the area: BILL POULOS, Manager, Alamo Grill and Dutch Kitchen, 1127 and 1129 14th Street, N. W. DOROTHY RANSOHOFF, Manager, The Den 1123 14th Street, N. W. ROBERT RUDOIERI, RUNIERI, Manager Mid-City Delicatessen 1125 14th Street, N. W. NANCY JANEIBALDWIN, Aka., ZOE WATT,-WATT,. An exotic dancer, who was contacted at the Dutch Kitchen. THOMAS D. WEBB, JR., 4526 Hawthorn Street, N. W., Washington, D..C.,D.SC., advisedadvised SASA FORDFORD thatthat MILLMIlie:unknownMILLMIte:unknown to 2 DL 114-163944-1639 him. WEBB further advised that he does not knowknew- JACK LEON RUBY or a JACK RUBENSTEIN and that he has no information indicating that CLINT MURCHISON is acquainted with this individual. Mr. WEBB added that he possesses no information of pertinence to this investigation but that he woOld immediately notify the Federal Bureau of Investigation should he hear even the remotest possible item which might be of value. CLINT MURCHISON, JR., Dallas, Texas, was contacted by Special Agent VINCENT E. DRDRAINNAINI on on NovemberNovember, 26, 26, 1963.1963. Re stated he never heard of MILLER or RUBY, and the firatfirot time he heard of RUBY was when he saw his name in the newspaper concerning the Shootingshooting of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, November 24, 1963.

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RANT Rawlins, vas telephonically contacted at the 'VegasVegas Club,Club, 35083508 OakOak Lawn,Lawn, Dallas, Texas. 1She stated that she first came came to Dallas,Dallas, TexasTexas inin et oror eithere942eithere942 or August of1943. CA /.,//. ,,Z f. She advised thatthat aa buildingbuilding waswas beingbeing erectederected atat 171T171T 8.8. ErwayWray in DallasDallas shortlyshortly afterafter sheshe arrivedarrived in Dallas; and she arranged to lease it. She informed that she stared to operate the Singapore Club at that address. Ws. GRANT GRANT saidsaid thatthat herher brother,brother, JAGSJAGS ALIBI,ALIBI, visitedvisited herher in Dallas a few times whilevoile be was still in the service of the United States. She stated that he moved to Dallas permanently in either April or May, 1948.1948. SheShe waswas notnot certaincertain ofof thethe monthmonth bebe arrivedarrived in Dallas, butbut she waswas reasonably certain that the year was 1948.1948.

Mrs. GRANT stated that she lleftdeft Dallas, Dallas, Texas Texas 11119481111948 and ventwent to the westvest coast. SheShe informedinformed thatthat sheshe returnedreturned toto Dallas two or three times afterafter 1948; and has made Dallas her home since April, 1959.

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Doteote 12/4/63 1 ROSCOE I:.k. l..616St,;.,441,5 441,5 South South Lamar, Lamar, Dallas,Dallas, Texas, was interviewed conre:ciug his business connection. and personalpersonal krowledgekrewledge of of Jars Jar. VIM. MY.

ROBINSON advisedadvised he he ha:. ha:. ice,; knr,:n :::n Ri.iY RiAlY sincesince aboutabout 1950, but hashas hadhad littlelittle contactcontact wit!AlimwidAlim sincesince 1955,1955, then ROBINSON purchased the Silver Spur from him. ROBINSON sold the Silver Spur Club shout a year later and has not been in the night club business since that time. He statestastes that as a result of leaving the club business he has lost contact with RU1Y and has seen him only rarely since 1955 and then only casually.

ROSIN!'::,nS7N! i states states he he took took HOWARDHOWARD MCMC LAUGHLINLAUGHLIN and a woman, 1/10..,11/10..1 0..N10,tokuNI1),to thethe CarouselCarousel ClubClub aboutabout a month ago to try to pet VIOLA a job. He introduced both MC LAUGHLIN and VIOLA to RUBY and the four of them had a brief conversa- tion. He recalls no specific conversation except the in- troduction and states they just talked club business and made small talk "about thinps in general." VIOLA did not get a job at the Carousel so far as ROBINSON knows.

A few days later, he and "SLIM" ELMO MILLER stopped at the Ca ousel for a drink. On this occasion, RUBY greeted them at the door, but they had no other conversation with him. ROBINSON states he has no recol- lection of RUBY ever ever stating stating any political views or even discussing politics.politics. ROBINSON hedhed never heard of LEE HARVEY OSWALD prior to President KENNEDY'sKENNEBY's assassination and does not recall ever having seen him. Pe further states he knows many of the officers of the Police Department in Dallas and has never seen any of them around the Carousel Club. He was of the impression RUBY knew many of the officers but does not know how RUBY met them or what their relation- ship was. ROBINSON said RUBY vent to Chicago sometime between 1952 and 1954 endand was absent from Dallas for almost a year. He described RUBY as short-t4mpered and very un- predictable, but feels he shot OSWALD for some personal gain. He statedstated hehe hashas nothingnothing toto basebase thisthis theory on, aside. from his opinion of RUBY's character.

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Texas Department of Correctios Number 171455, was interviewed in the Warden's Offices ,Texas, State Prison, Texas Department of Corrections. He advised that he has been a resident ofof Dallas,Dallas, Texas, for many years. In about 1950, he frequented the "Silve'r Spur Club" in Dallas and beCame acquainted with the owner, JACK RUBY. In 1952, LINTHICUM received a prison sentence at the Federal Correctional Institute, Seagoville Texas, and was not released untiluntil April,April, 1954.1954. AfterAfter returningreturning to Dallas and while again frequenting the "Silver Spur Club", he witnessed JACK RUBY engage in a fight with three customers, and LINTHICUM wentwent toto RUBY'sRUBY's assistance.assistance. Afterwards,Afterwards, RUBYRAM offered him a job at the club and he worked for RUBY for about eight months and then another month at RUBY'sRUBY'S "Vegas • Club". He then terminated his employment but continued his association with RUBY until 1962.1962. LINTHICUM stated RUBY was "hot headed" and would brawl at the slightest provocation. He never discussed politics and evidenced no indication that he was a "patriot". His primary concern:was in "making the dollar". RUBY dated some of his "strippers" and occasional female customers of his clubs. He was friendly with members of the Dallas Police Department and would permit them to have "drinks on the house".

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This documentdocument contains contains neither neither recommendations recommendations not conelueloos nor conelusione of the FBI. of the It ts FBI. the it ts theproperty property edits* &the FBI FBI and and is isloaned loaned to to irD-$02 (soir. 1-2140) •• FEDERAL BUREAU BUREAU OF OF INVESTIGA INVESTIGA sword sword

1. 1 Dote DecemberDecember 2,2, 19631963

CRAWFORD C. MARTIN, C. MARTIN, Secretary Secretary of State, of State, State State of Texas, Capito3Capito3 building,building, causedcaused toto bebe produced produced thethe corporatecorporate file ofof thatthat officeoffice with with respectrespect to S 6t R, Inc., Dallas,Dallas, Texas. This file contains contains thethe following following information: information: Corporate charter charter records records revealedrevealed thatthat the S t R,R, Inc.,Inc., 1312-1/21312-1/2 Commerce Street, Street, Dallas, Dallas, Texas,Texas, waswas granted aa Corporate Charter Charter to to do do business business in in thethe StateState ofof Texas under CharterCharter sic..sir.. 163178, 163178, dated dated FebruaryFebruary 10, 1960.1960. The periodperiod forfor duratio.durati o.: of of this this corporationcorporation waswas stated stated -- te IXIX.;. perpetual andand t1tl :gregate:gregate numlsernwaser ofof sharesshares listedlisted asas 1,000 shares at parpar valuevalue ofof $1.00$1.00 each.each. The The corporation'scorporation's.. purpose was was listed listed as "To"To manufacture,manufacture, buy, buy, sell, sell, dealdeal in 6,d engage in,in, carrycarry onon andand conduct thethe business ofof man-Acturing, buying, buying, selling selling and dealingdealing in goods,goods, wares, andand merchandise of of every every class class andand descriptiondescription".s. The Post Post Office Office AddressAddress of of the the corporation's corporation's initial initial regis-regis- -:::':ed:ced office office was was listed listed as as 1312-1/2 1312-1/2 CommerceCommerce Street, Street, Dallas, T' as, andand thethe namename of of itsits originaloriginal registered registered agent agent waswas shown asas RALPH PAUL. PAUL. The The number number of directors of directors constituting constituting the initial board board ofof directors directors was was listedlisted as as four four in in number number andand 1:'1:'-.-.5r5r were were toto serveserve -- as directorsdirectors untiluntil thethe firstfirst annual annual meeting meeting •• -hareshare holdersholders oror untiluntil theirtheir successorssuccessors werewere electedelected andand qualified. These These individuals individuals were were listed listed as: RALPHas: RALPH PAUL, PAUL, 3508 Oak Lawn las, Texas; Texas; EARL EARL RUBY,RUBY, 35083508 Oak Lawn,Lawn, Dallas, Dallas, Texas; '' '' 48194819 Irwin SimmonsSimmons DriYEDri_YEDallas.A-Dallas. TeXASI, TexAst, C. D.D. MERRELL, MERRELL, 2247 Lea Crest --Dive, Dallas,Dallas, Texas.Texas. The namesnames and and addresses addresses of of thethe incorporatorsincorporators werewere listed as as RALPH RALPH PAUL,PAUL, 35083508 OakOak LawnLawn,s Dallas,Dallas, Texas;Texas; JOEJOE E. S IN, 48194819 IrwinIrwin SimmonsSimmons Drive, Drive, Dallas,Dallas, Texas;Texas; andj4.2andjrcL.246 ;ERREL st 11 These lastlast three incorporatorsincorporators were shownshown to to have have signed signed the the articles articles of incorporationincorporation andand theirtheir signaturessignatures werewere notarizednotarized onon thethe articles of ofincorporation incorporation by STANLEY by STANLEY M. M.KAUFMAN, KAUFMAN, Notary Public in and forfor Dallas County, Texas,Texas, thisthis notarizationnotarization having been dated February 9,9, 1960.1960.

The corporatecorporate charter charter file file further revealed that- 4

11/29/63 Austin, TexasTexas /p SA 44-74844-748 On et Filet SA H. T. BURK/jmb 11/29/63 by • Oat.Date dictateddictated 2.✒. 44-74:

Secretary ofof 1.1.. 1, FhANY.✦❈✡✮✹✎ LAKE, Secretary Secretary of of State's State's Office, .arch✎✎❁❒❃❈ EE s 19E12,19E12, signedsigned aa formalformal instrument whereinwhercln .. thrittnrit cn❃■ that day nene hAdhAd considered the charter of the S Jo.,P., Inc., Inc., chartercharter i - 16517E;16517E;1 4 a corporation organizedorganized underunder the .; Texas, andand thatthat he he had nad determineddetermined and'and' 1.15 .:g facts:facts: 1, said corporation's rightright toto dodo ❂◆▲❉■❅▲businesss . ,\cviously-.eiously forfeited onon ✪◆●❙July 17,17, 1961;1961;

2.2 • tr. -cuptroller-cuptroller ofof PudicPublic Accounts Accounts hashas - 1; certified that saidsaid corporationcorporation ❈❁▲has no ■❏ t4g,r 4.11:1waizn-. judodentjudodent for for taetae francnise taxes,taxes, :,•:7;sr;it;,-;sr;st iet;.7: et; and cc:.:. . costs ray be satisfied;satisfied;

S. :::at:hat the comptrollercomptroller ofof PublicPublic Accounts Accounts hashas .- tnatthat the saidsaid covporationcorporation hashas failedfailed and '' --% :s:iv- riEntrignt toto Codo businessbusiness priorprior toto thethe firstfirst z.n.laryLs.lary suceecing the the day day of of forfeiture forfeiture of of itsits lc ..;) utiz.ine_s :Indrind as provit:edprovie.ed bylaw;by.law; •

q, thet2se aboveabove determinationdetermination andand findingsfindings of z,Trvvedc,Trvved by by tne .'sttorneyAttorney GeneralGeneral of Texas.Texas. 4 1'1 : (" (..:'%4ttVfttV tdO4 td04n■ ....:. Lyy FRKCKFiu--:.CK LAKE ordered ordered that that the the chartercharter ofof the .11:::ve naneenein cororationcorporation be, and be, the sameand isthe hereby same is hereby forieiteoforieiten withoutwithout judicialjudicial ascertainment ascertainment andand racknadk-- nullnull andand etrid, and thatthat prciprci-er-er entry entry be be made made uponupon the permanentpermanent files files =•e. records of of suil corporation, to show to such show forfeiture such as forfeiture as cfof thetau satesate hereof.hereof. Witnessed Witnessed hishis hand hand and sealand )arch seal 6, Karch 6, 12.

This filefile likewiselikewise contained a copy a ofcopy a letter of a letter February IC,IC, 1962,1962, from ROisiRT ROBERT S. CALVERT,S. CALVERT, Comptroller Comptroller tne State ofof Texas,✴❅❘❁▲✌ addressed to the Tax Tax Assessor Assessor Collector Collector .;allas::=11 as County,County, ❏❁●●❁▲oallass Texas,Texas, concerning the S fS R, f Inc., R, Inc., I11z-1/21312-1/2 Cori Cori erce Street,erce Dallas, Street, Dallas, Texas,Texas, in in which which CALVERT CALVERT re;uestedrequested tne tne 4..oessor iessor Collector Collector ofof Dallas Dallas County County to to aerhisaaernisa anyahy infcmationinfomation fromfrom tnetne recordsrecords ofof thethe Tax Tax ;.asessor;.azassor Collector Ccliector of Dallas of Dallas CountyCounty concerningconcerning thethe assessedassessed.. value of theof fcllowingthe fcllowing named property named owned property by the above owned by the above corporation, if any, iffor any, for the taxtax year,year, 1961.1961.

On tnetne Bottom Bottom of this of letter this letter referred toto above,above, trctare TaxTax AsAssessorsessor Collector of DallasDallas County certified certified that t:.?.t:. S. S. RRss Inc.Inc. had had no no real propertyproperty on the the rendered rendered or or unrendered rolls rolls cfof DallasDallas County,County, Texas,Texas, andand hadhad nono pro-pro- ber-.2/ner:y on the the reiireVeredidered personalpersonal propertyproperty rolls of of that county.

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This certification waswas signedsigned byby thethe DallasDallas CountyCounty TaxTax Assessor Ccl3cctorCol3ctor dateddated February 22,22, 1962.1962. TneThe file furtherfurther containscontains aa letter letter frog frog WILL WILL W1LSW,1,ttorney Attorney General of of thethe StateState of Texas,Texas, dateddated }larch 6, 24, t=.44dressedt,..:idressed toto Honorable Honorable FRANK FRANK LAKE,LAKE, Secretary Secretary of State, Austin,blistin, Texas,Texas., concerningconcerning thethe SS 44 R, Inc. inin which which the AttorneyAttorney General'sGeneral's OfficeOffice of thethe StateState of of Texas Texas approved approved the determinationdeternination ofof the OfficeOffice ofof Comptroller Comptroller of PublicPublic Accounts to the effect thethe S 6R, R, Inc. Inc. was was without without assetsassets from. whichwhich frane:ise franc::ise taxes, taxes, penalties,penalties, andand courtcourt costscosts may may be satisfied againstagainst suchsuch corporation.corporation. ThisThis letterletter • autaorizedauthorized thetae 1>ecretaryl'ecretzy of of State's State's Office thatthat thethe approvalapproval cfof thethe AttorneyAttorney General of of thethe StateState ofof TexasTexas forfor forfeitureforfeiture of the chart?rcharter was granted.granted. •

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REAGAN Apartment 103, T220T220 HollywoodHollywood Boulevardrrurnished the following information: TURMAN believes believes that that RALPHRALPH PAUL PAUL was was the the principal principal - owner of Siert,S & R, Inc. which owned the Carousel in Dallas, Texas. JACK RUBY owned an unknown percentage of S & R,R, and on one occasion, RUBY discussed the possibility of giving TURMAN aa 10 per cent interest in the Carousel, however, this deal did not materialize. TURMAN never owned any stock. or any part of S & R,R, Inc.Inc. thethe Carousel,Carousel, oror thethe VegasVegas Club:Club: JACKJACK RUBTonceRUBTonce asked TURMAN if it would be agreeable to use TURMAN's namename as an officer of the SS && R, Inc., and TURMAN said hebe was agreeable. TURMAN does not recall signing any papers oror conducting any activity as an officer of S & it, Inc., and merely allowed the use- of his name. TURMAN believes that JACK RUBY originally was the sole owner of the Vegas Club, however, he believes RALPH PAUL now has an unknown interestinterest inin thethe club.club. HeHe statedstated hehe couldcould furnish no information concerning the actualactual ownership of the above clubs and S & R. Inc.

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Mr. LOUISLOUIS PAUL, PAUL, 2121 2121 Cedar Cedar Avenue, Avenue, BronxBronx 68,68, New York, brother of RALPHRALPH PAUL,PAUL, and and Mrs.Mrs. LEELEE BERRY, 2265 2265 SedgwickSedgwick AvenueAvenues Bronx 68, Amy New YorkYorks sistersister of of RALPH RALPH PAUL, advised advised as as follows:follows: • . LOUIS PAUL is a salesman employed by Best Wire and Buckle Company,Company, Inc., Inc., 307307 WestWest 38th 38th Street,Street, NewNew York Clty,City, New York, and is also President of Pleasant Finance Company, Inc..Inc., 24 Main Street, Street, Lodi,Lodi, Newhew Jersey. LEE BERRY BERRY is employedis employed as assecretary secretary of of Pleasant Pleasant Irina:We'rinanoe' Company, Inc., Inc., a. a. •• == address.address. age 63, wasinER-D2212bet1241a234wasinED-D2212bet1241a234 inin ligY4...BUSELO.ftligY4...BUSELL. His His father father is is SAMUEL SAMUEL PAUL,PAUL, deceased.deceased. HisHis mother,mother, TILLIE RUBIN RUBIN PAUL, PAUL, age age 84, 84, resides resides with her daughter, Mrs. BERRY, at 22652265 SedgwickSedgwick Avenue,Avenue, Bronx 68,68, New New York.York. TheThe familyfamily namenames • BIELAPOLLSKI (or something like that), was changed to PAUL approximately 55 years ago. RALPH PAUL entered the United States . atat New New York City, New York e in 1907 or 1903 with his mother. At that time RALPg PAUL was the only child. Els father bad preceded them to the United States. RALPH PAUL has resided at 1836 East Abrams Street. Arling/suw.21malAr1ing/suw.211241,.fors.for approximatelyapproximately thethe pastpast sevenseven years.years. PriorPrior to that time he resided between FortFort WorthWorth andand Dallas, Texas, name of town unknown..unknown. RALPH PAUL PAUL has has operated operated a drive-in restaurant named "Ball-Pen," Arlington, Texas, for approximately the past eight or nine years. Prior to that time RALPH PAUL operated the Miramar Drive-In Restaurant between Fort Worth and Dulles,Dallas, Texas. LOUIS PAUL and LEE BERRY have never visited their brother RALPHRALPH PAULPAUL inin Texas.Texas. TheyThey lastlast sawsaw RALPHRALPH during the Jewish holidays in September, 1963, on a social visit of RALPH to NewNew YorkYork CityCity toto seesee hishis mother.mother. They have very little contact with RALPH, usually seeing him once a year or sometimes twice a year on visits of RALPH to New York City. The only other member of the' immediate family is.Is. another brother, DAVID PAUL, who resides at 1152 College Avenue,

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Bronx 56,56, NewNew York. DAVID PAUL PAUL operates operates a partinga parl:ing lot lot locatedlocated at 153rd153rd StreetStreet and and Bergen Bergen Avenue, Avenue, Bronx, Bronx, New New York.York. They have no knowledge of any association of RALPH PAUL withwith eithereither JACK JACK LEON LEON RUBY RUBY or orLEE LEE HARVEY HARVEY OSWALD. OSWALD. RALPH PAUL, PAUL, to theirto their knowledge, knowledge, has has never never been been active active in andand was nevernever affiliatedaffiliated with anyany subversivesubversive organisation,organisation.

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EARL KW advieel that he &les&les rat rat knov vho own, Carousel, nor does he know who constitutes the S. and R. Incorporation. Be believes that pot ribly SLAYTON', first name is JOE.JOE; whereaboutswhereabouts unknown to him. Be suggest, kir sic.ter, 173 0RA!1, vho rendes In Dalla,, vo1211 kolv details eoitertiug ovrerehtp of the Carousel, as well as Inlivilwalsvh con=titute S. and E.

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Dote 12.4.fia.4.4A Special Agent ROBERT J. BARRY interviewed KIPP POWELL, Master of Ceremoniesi-lbe Colony Club, 14921 South Western Avenue, Gardena, California, a strip tease nightnight club. POWELL POWELL advised advised that bebe hadibeen hadJbeen employed employed by byJACK JACK RUBY RUBY as Master of Ceremonies in the Carousel Chb. Dallas, for about five weeks,..May,19. 1961,1961, throughthrough June,June, ,1961..1961. POWELL POWELL obtained that bookingbooking-through PAPPYPAPPY DOLSENDOLSEN Agency Agency inin Dallas. POWELL personally metmet RUBYRUBY butbut onlyonly as employeeemployee -- employer relationship. He has no pertinent knowledge of friends, associates, activities, or or background background ofof RUBY.RUBY.

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also knownknown as CurtisCurtis LaVerne LaVerne aford, LarrLarr L and,and, Smoky.,Smoky., waswas located at thethe cabincabin ofof ROY PARKS n ruiirural— AntriAntrimm County,County, MichiganMichigan He was visiting his sister,sister, Mts. Mts. CORABELLECORABELLE INGERSOLL.INGERSOLL. 'Thiiindividual-'Thiiindividual- voluntemrd4voluntewrid the the foLtowingfol4.wing information:information: OtAtL Lf 1.0112 1.0112-1D He was borniat birnitt Farwell,Farwell, MIchiran,MIchiran, enen March 10, 1941,1941, raised inin Michigan Michigan andand Salifornia.,until his family movedmoved to to Dallas, Oregon, is in 1958.1958. The family family were were fruit fruit harvestharvest people.people. InIn 14eptember, 1958, 1958, he he enlisted enlisted isin thethe UnitedUnited StatesStates ArmyArmy andand served. until Novepber,Novepber, 1959,1959, whenwhen bebe was givengiven a generalgeneral dischargedischarge under honorable Eonditions.Eonditions. He He married married VILMA VILMA JEANJEAN TEANNET,TEANNEY, June 16, 1962, and sheshe was fromfrom Dallas, Dallas, Texas.Texas. 'Be'Be firstfirst went went toto Da/las Minuetses. Texas, in March,March, 1963,1963, toto atteatatteeti-rieconciliation-i.econciliation with with hishis wife', wife; but finallyfinally theythey ss cratedcrated inin June, 1963,1963, asas his wifewife waswas aa lesbian.lesbian..' r 401%. tc(1 ,7•1 1 • During AugustAngina.. 3, 3,he he starteFt1 startePto work RigAVA wiz!'ia carnivalcarnival and followedfollowed thisthis work,work, which accountedaccounted for for his his beingbeing atat the Texas StateState Fair in Dallas,Dallas, Texas, Texas, onon oror about about OctoberOctober 15, 1963.1963. BeHe joinedjoined a carnivalcarnival show show whichwhich was named "How HollywoodHollywood Makes Movies."Movies." ThisThis waswas run run by by a BOBa BOB CRAVEN, CRAVEN, of of Holilmodid,.Hollywood,. California, andand he performed the the duties.ef duties.ef a roustabout.roustabout. Be livedlived in aa tenttent on on the the fairgrounds fairgrounds andand stayedstayed withwith thisthis show show andand anotheranother .. show whichwhich was a rock and roll roll outfitoutfit untiluntil thethe fairfair closedclosed anon approxiaatelyapproximately OctoberOctober 30,30, 1963.1963. During thethe time hehe waswas employed with thethe "Bow "Bow HollywoodHollywood Makes MOVIOSniMovies", hehe ascertained.ascertained.that that JACK JACK RUBY RUBY had approximately 4$150.00 investedinvested and onon oror aboutabout OctoberOctober 21, 21, 1963, 1963, at at closingclosing time, hehe was was introduced introduced to toRUBY RUBY by by a "DESK"a "DESK" MILES,MILES, anotheranother oneone of thethe backers.backers. He He saw saw RUBYRUBY two two er er three three times duringduring thethe TexasTexas State Fair,Fair, as as RUBY RUBY wouldwould check on the progressprogress of the show.show. When the fafairir closedclosed abolit abolit the the end end of of October, October, 1)63, 1963, RUBY RUBY hiredhired him to tear downdown the the stage stage andand take take it it totost r rCarofsel Carotsel ClubClub isis Dallas,DDallas,', Texas, Be Beworked worked with with a manman namename O OWARD fLatstM ast 'nue'nine Unknown), aa 11:gref:grol whowho hadhad beenbeen employed employed by by RUBY RUBY firfir approximately 18 years. AYAl er completingcompleting this job,job, RUBY RUBY askedasked him him to to staystay at the clubclub andand workwork forfor roomroom andand board.board. ReHe hadhad thethe room in in front of RUBY's office.office. ThisThis wouldwould be approximately NovemberNovember 1, 1, 1963.

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His job at.at.the the Carousel Carousel ClubClub consisted of beingbeing aa handyman; clean clean up up man, man, part-tine part-tine bartenderbartender and4alsoand4also answeringanswering the telephone. It It waswas hishis duty toto taketake down down namesnames andand addresses of peoplepeople callingcalling the the club club for for RUBY. RUBY. RUBY RUBY ran almost anan adad every dayday inin the locallocal paperpaper forfor waitresseswaitresses andand performers.performers. NeEe also hadhad amic.financialanc.financial interestinterest inin a aTwist Twist Board Board ComianyCoe piny at FortFort Worth, Texas. Texas. TelephoneTelephone calls calls in aa numbernumber ofof twenty to forty wouldwould bebe receivedreceived dailydaily and thesethese callscalls werewere placedplaced in aa stenographers notebook, whichwhich he keptkept of RUBY's desk.desk. The onlyonly oddodd incidentincident concerning telephonetelephone callscalls waswas that aboutabout three oror fourfour timestimes aa dayday duringduring the timetime hehe waswas at the club,club, aa call call. would would come cone in in and and the the man man would would askask ifif Mr. Mr'. RUBY RUBY was there.there. IfIf RUBY RUBY was was not not there, there, the the manman refused refused to to leave leave his his .. name and and on on every every occasion occasion during during this this period period of of time, time, itit waswas the samesame person whowho called.called. HeHe broughtbrought this this toto RUBY'sRUBY's attentionattention on numerous occasions occasions andand RUBY RUBY told told him him to toforget forget about about it; it; however, RUBY waswas not alarmed.alarmed. CRAFARD would would stay stay at theat the club club and and eat eat his his mealsmeals at the EatEat Well Cafe andand the the drugstoredrugstore across across thethe streetstreet fromfrom the club. MoneyMoney for for thesethese meals waswas takentaken fromfrom the the cash cash register. register. RUBY also also purchased purchased his his clothes clothes fromfrom the GoodGood WillWill Store andand gave himhim somesome spendingspending money.money. RUBY had had an an apartmentapartment withwith an an /Individual !Individual named named GEPROE CORM (Last(Last Wame;Unknown),Wame;Unknown), who who sold sold Christmas Christmas cards cards and and worked worked part part time tine on the doordoor atat the the clib. clib. Be Hedid did not notknow know where where RUBY's RUBY's apartment apartment VASVAR located, butbut had had thethe telephone telephone number, number, 114114 1-1050.1-1050. would seesee RUBYRUBY every every day day for for aboutabout oneone toto twotwo hourshours and thisthis usuallyusually occurred occurred between between 12:00 12:00 PM PM andand 3:003:00 at thethe Carousel. OtherOther than that,that, RUBY RUBY would would telephonically telephonically contact himhim almost everyevery hourhour forfor any any calls. calls. Be Behas has no knowledgeno knowledge where where RUBY RUBY spent his timetime outsideoutside of of the the club. club. Usually, Usually, RUBY RUBY wouldwould thenthen return to thethe clubclub atat about about 10,00 10,00 PM PM each evening andand stay stay untiluntil closing tine,time, which which was was 1:3Q1:3Q AiAil during during week week daysdays andand :00:00 AI ..• on thethe weekends.weekends. •• He statedstated RUBYRUBY trusted trusted himhim and and he he wouldwould handle handle vatilrherelattilrhere 415041501011-2300.00-1011-2300.00 to to$400.00 $400.00 daily; daily; however, however, ANDY ANDY ARMSTRONG ARMSTRONG or ALEXANDER, the theAssistant Assistant Manager Manager and and bartender, bartender, would would handle handle thethe money until until MidnightMidnight and, and, thereafter, thereafter, hehe wouldwould closeclose up.up.

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lost ofof thethe timetime atat aboutabout 5:00 5:00 Plit, PY, RUBYRUBY wouldwould callcall in from his home and, if needed, he told him he would be available there until he came to the club later.' Be said most of the affairs of the club were handled by ARMSTRONG, who performed paper work, etc., and this individual was with RUBY for approximately nine years.

Continuing, he said that on a few occasions during the daytime, hehe wouldwould accompanyaccompany RUBYRUBY aroundaround the the Dallas Dallas area. area. He He . recalls one day, time unknown, that RUBY went to various companies in regards to the purchase of a safe for the club, as RUBY had the habit of carrying all his money in his pocket. On another•another. occasion, approximately three weeks ago, he wentwent withwith RUBYRUBYwhen when RUBY checked about some sound etuipment for the club. This was at an electronics company in about the 2200 or 2300 block •f Elm Street. They were there ten or fifteen minutes and did not purchase anything. On this occasion he, CRAFARD, was wearing a suit and he feels they were there at about 3:00 PM or 4:00 PM. Be said that when they entered the place of business, the -electronicelectronic equipment, speakers, public address systems, etc., were en the - right and left-hand sidelt in between a counter and a stairway that went to a storeroom on the second floor. Be related that most of RUBY's time at the club was spent talking business and he had the habit of always telling the employees who they could talk to. RUBY was somewhat outspoken, had a quick temper and when mad would use loud language in'his relations with the employees, On November 17, 1963, he recalls telling RUBY that be would desire tot• cease his employment there on the 18th. HeBe said that RUBY then told him he would put him on a'salary and persuaded him to stay indefinitely. CRAFARD said he was not too fond of the wprk and was not busy enough at the club. He also said RUBY had a .38 caliber revolver which he kept in a money sack locked in the trunk of his car. Be said that when trans- porting money, RUBY kept his money in the trunk with the revolver and always kept the revolver with him when 'movingmoving money. In regards t UBT'suBT's temper, he said that one night, approximately MoveBove 1 or 15, 1963, RUBY was having trouble with an B.C., EA °REAORMA at the Carousel and about 1:30 AMAR he, RUBY, sent CRAFARD out to the car to get the gun. That was the only time he ever handled RUBY's gun and on that occasion did not take itit outout ofof thethe sack.sack. BeBe saidsaid thatthat thethe gun was believed to be the. property.of.HOWARD, the Negro employee. •0 1(_

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On NtivemberNevember 20,20, 1963,1963, hehe recallsrecalls RUBYRUBY comingcoming in at approximately 4:004:00 or or 5:00 5:00 in in the the afternoon afternoon and and requesting requesting CRAFARD MUM to go work at the Club Vegas. RUBY stayed at the Carousel until approximately 6:30 PM. ANDY, the bartender, was there, along with - , GEORGE, RUBY's roommate. At the laths, time, RUBY returned to his home and came back to the club at about 8:00 PM, when he °transported4/transported CRAFARDCRAFARD toto thethe ClubClub Vegas.Vegas. ThatThat evening, he called three or four times in regards to the crowd and Mrs. EVA GRANT, RUBY's sister, also called in regards to the crowd. At closing time, whichwhich waswas 2:00c7AM,2:0eAM„ RUBY RUBY called called andand saidsaid hehe wouldwould bebe latelate as the "law was at the glace" and LITTLE LINN, one of the strippers, was sick and he had to take care of her. Re waited there until approximately 3:453:45 AM,AM, atat whichwhich timetime Itt'BrRUBY' metmet himhim andand they had breakfast at - the Lucas B and B Restaurant, next door to the club. On this date, RUBY was accompanied by a girl named GLORIA, who did not work at the club and who was about 22, white female, 5'6", 125 pounds, blond hair. This girl would be known to MARGIE (Last Name Unknown), waitress at the Carousel. Be said that RUBY returned him to the Carousel at approximately 4:30 AM, on November 21, 1963. On November 21, 1963, RUBY called the club to wake him up at about 11:00 AM, and then came in later in the afternoon, sometime between 12:00 and 3:00. ANDY was at the club at this time and hehe recalledrecalled therethere waswas aa 'woman,woman, alongalong withwith herher husband, who desired a job. Thereafter, RUBY left and later in the after- noon called him again to go. to the Vegas as the bartender. At about 7:30 PM, RUBY picked pis up and took him to the Vegas Club, and he did not see RUBY &vanswan until approximately 2:30 AN,AM, after -closing, at which timetine they again had breakfast at the Lucas B and B, returning to the Carousel at about 3:30 or 4:00 AM.

On November 22, 1963, he said he was awakened by ANDY,- the bartender, at 11:30 AM, by way of telephone. Be then dropped back to sleep and shortly after Noon, ANDY came to the Club, personally woke him up and stated that the President had been shot. Be had not heard from RUBY previously that date and at about 1:30 PM, RUBY came into the club and said the club would be closed that night and the entire weekend. Be told . 4 ANDY to notify the personnel and, thereafter, called the paper and placed an ad to that effect.' CRAFARD said that he was suchmuch surprised by this action as the club could not financially stand to be closed and it was strictly his opinion that RUBY did this as a gesture toto makemake goodgood willwill onon behalfbehalf ofof thethe 'public.public. After

• • ME 44-563 5 that RUBY said that hebe was going to his sister's home and asked CRAFARD if he desired to accompany him, whichwhich offeroffer waswas refused. RUBY left the Carousel at about 3:30 PM, being described by CRAFARD as "pretty well shaken up." They knew at that time there was an arrest of a suspect, but he cannot recall the name of any person being mentioned; however, the name of TIBBITS, the policeman, was mentioned and RUBY said he was acquainted with him. Upon.leaving, RUBY was what CRAFARD termed being emotionally disturbed. .HeBe toldtold CRAFARD to call Mrs. GRANT's home before be went to dinner and upon his return. This was nbt an ordinary request and CRAFARD had no knowledge of RUBY's reason. RUBY then came back to the club or called CRAFARD. about 7:30 PM that evening. Be did not discuss the assassination 4, he did not mention being at the police department or anything else.- He just.wanted to check in regards to telephone calls. He did not see RUBY again until the next day.

On Saturday morning, November 23, 1963, at about 5:30 AX,AM, RUBY called him and told him to meet him downstairs with the Polaroid camera and some film. RUBY was very excited and, in a matter of minutes, a telephone call was received from the fellow at. the All Wright Parking Lot, telling him that JACK'was there and to hurry up. When he got.to the 'car, GEORGE, RUBY's roommate, was also there and they drove out on the StemmionsStennions Freeway, where RUBY showed him a sign "Impeach EARL WARREN." On the end of this sign it said for further information writewrite' Post Office Box 1744 or'aor** similar number. RUBY instructed him to take three pictures ofof the signsirs - and they then drove to a waffle shop near the Carousel for coffee. RUBY and GEORGE were talking about the sign and the Post Office Box and they had mery little conversation concerning the assassination; RUBY then dropped CRAFARD off at the club at 6:20 AN and said that he and GEORGE were going down to the Post Office to look at that Post Office Box. CRAFARD said that , he was completely puzzled, as EARL WARREN was unknown t•to him. This was the last time he saw JACK RUBY. He also recalled thit while being at the waffle shop •nen Commerce Street, RUBY waswas reading about LEE HARVEY OSWALD in the newspaper. He, at this _time,_tine, did not express any previous knowledge or acquaintance with this individual and he (CRAFARD) had never, to the best of his knowledge, heard RUBY or anyone else at the club previously • •-

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mentio4ithis name. Re said that it seemed odd to him that RUBY was more excited about the EARL WARREN sign than about the assassination. RUBY, atat thisthis time,time, mademade nono threatsthreats oror etherother - comments concerning OSWALD. After being dropped off at the club, CRAFARD called RUBY at approximately 8:00 AM, at RUBY's apartment and told RUBY thatthat theythey neededneeded foodfood forfor thethe three three dachlibIROI dach01201 thatthat werewere keptkept at the club. CRAFARD said that RUBY berated him for waking him up and he then decided to pack up and leave the club as he did not want to take any other verbal abuse. Be did not say anything to anyone about leaving and just packed his clothing, left the club,at.-.about 12:00 Noon that date and started hitchhiking north. Be proceeded north on 77 to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, and on to Clare, Michigan,.whereMichigan,, where he arrived on Monday, NovemberNovember 25,25, 1963,1963, - at about 9:30 PM, at the home of a cousin, CLIFFORD ROBERTS. His main reason for coming north was to recontact his sistem Whowho had hot-written him for some time. He had no other explanation for his hasty departure, but said that it is just the way he does things. Returning to RUBY, he said that he can sever recall this individual making any statements concerning revenge on OSWALD. Be, CRAFARD, saw RUBY's picture in the newspaper the day after his arrest and said that he never saw OSWALD in the Carousel oror VegasWpm Clubs Clubs and and he he definitely definitely knowsknows thatthat hehe nevernever took this name down from a telephone call. Be said that he first found ontout that OSWALD had been killed on November 24, 1963,1963, at about 8:00 PM, andand diddid notnot knowknow RUBYRUBY waswasreSponsible responsible for it lantil' Monday,Monday, until NNovemberovember 25, 1963. 177 InIs regard('regardi toto RUBY'sRUBY's contacts,contacts, CRAFARDCRAFARD aidaid thatthat most of them werewere recordedrecorded inin thethe stenographerstenographeA16 no k on the desk 'and that the only.only, other ones would be MICKENICKS who was a bartender inin aa gungun clubclub locatedlocated inin DaDa as.as. :e ermederred RYANRYAN as a very close friend. Be cannot recallAUBT-ever saying im had any contacts with the underOorld 04 the the onlyonly illegalillegal lketiviWthatlketlw1Wthat hehe couldcould recallrecall RUBYRUBY speakingspeaking abotit'easabottreas thatthat each night at the Carousel,Carousel, asas aa promotionalpromotional stunt,stunt, they.they-would would have drawings and give away champagne to the ladies and Wilkinson swart edge razor blades to the men. RUBY stressed the fact that these razor blades were a blackmarket product and he had soso knowledge from where they were obtained. DE 44-563 .7.7 .

ConcerningConceraiag RDBY'sRUBY's re/itionsrestless withwith thethe police,police, CRAFARDCRAFARD said that on the average, two men in uniform would visit the club nightly at about 11:30 PM and receive free coffee. CRAFARD said that he had no knowledge himself of any Dallas policemen, but RUBY claimed to know the majority of men on the force. He said he was advised that off-duty policemen'.- could come into the club without -paying the $2.00 cover charge and that the ordinary price for beer and set ups was 60 cents and the policemen were to be charged 40 cents. HeRe knows •f no ,policepolice contacts on RUBY's behalf, but said RUBY did *eep a police )SIcard44:card inin thethe cashcash registerregister at the Carousel with a name, unknown •! to him, on it. Another close friend of RUBY's was a RWUS.RWLJS. 471.61111.2.1. who is the drum player at the Carousel. H.He said at no time did RUBY ever demonstrate. any homosexual tendencies and that he specifically recalls on one occasion an individual, who was a female impersonator, made a

request for employment at the club and RUBY became infuriated Air and stated that type of act was repulsive. In closing, CRAFARD said that he intendeintendp to stay 4n the Bellaire, Michigan, area until Friday, December 6, 1963, and his address will always be known to Miss GALE EATON of Harrison, $ichigan, and he will advise the Traverse City Resident Agency of the Federal Bureau of Investigationliveard of any moves. Several colored photographs were taken of CRAFARD and the following physical description was obtained from interview and observation;' lameUse CURTIS LA VERNE CRAFARD Aliases . CurtisCurtis LaYerneLaYerne Craferd,Craferd, Larry,- C.L., Smoky Race White Sex Male Age 22 Born March 10, 1941, Farwell, Michigan Height 55'6"96" . IL Weight 150 pounds BairHair Brown Eyes Brown