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Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage CHPC Ï NUMBER 015 Ï 1st SESSION Ï 41st PARLIAMENT EVIDENCE Tuesday, November 29, 2011 Chair The Honourable Rob Moore 1 Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage Tuesday, November 29, 2011 Ï (0850) position in Canada. It has been around seven generations since [English] Confederation started, and in many aboriginal cultures, including The Chair (Hon. Rob Moore (Fundy Royal, CPC)): Good mine—I'm from Curve Lake First Nation—seven generations is an morning, everybody. Welcome to the Standing Committee on important cultural touchstone. We try to think seven generations into Canadian Heritage. the future in all the decisions we make and in regard to what impact we'll have on those generations, and we try to guide our planning As we continue our study on Canada's 150th birthday, we're very and priorities appropriately. pleased to have a panel that I think will bring a lot to the table when it comes to our discussion. So it has been seven generations since Confederation began and, We welcome Peter Dinsdale, who is the chief operating officer for as you know, our collective joint histories have taken many turns the Assembly of First Nations. throughout this history. Really, it started off as an economic relationship. By no means were there embassies of peace and We have with us David MacKenzie, who is the deputy minister, friendship sent across the ocean: they were looking for trade Department of Tourism and Culture, with senior responsibility for missions and wealth to bring back. Our first relationship was very Prince Edward Island's 150th anniversary. That's certainly a much an economic one. perspective we're interested in hearing about. Thank you for being here, David. Quickly, as our history unfolded, it turned into a military relationship, where there was some antagonism and some support. We have with us Deborah Apps, president and chief executive Without the first nations in the War of 1812, we probably would be officer of the Trans Canada Trail, and Paul LaBarge, chair of the American right now. We probably would not be Canadian, in all Trans Canada Trail. Paul has some experiences that we know will be honesty. So I think there's an important joint history there that we've relevant to our study that we were just discussing. shared in developing this country together. Welcome to our panel. You will each be given 10 minutes for your opening remarks,. Then we'll go into a question and answer period. Then we have this idea of treaties, of treaty building and nation We'll go in the order that appears on our agenda and start with Peter building across the country. Some would argue that it was to open up Dinsdale, from the Assembly of First Nations. more economic development and westward expansion, and some would argue that it was a broader vision. I think that's a part of our Go ahead, Peter. reflection upon 150 years of Canada as a country. Mr. Peter Dinsdale (Chief Operating Officer, Assembly of First Nations): Thank you very much. Then we move to darker times of assimilation, where first nations Thank you to all the committee members for inviting the were no longer needed economically. They were no longer needed Assembly of First Nations to present today on behalf of the national militarily. They were no longer needed as joint partners in chief, Shawn A-in-chut Atleo, and the entire executive. Again, we Confederation; now they were challenge and a burden to the rest are very honoured to be here and to have the opportunity to share of the country. The famous Duncan Campbell Scott killed “the some perspectives. Indian in the child”. Residential schools, the banning of ceremonies of potlatch, and determining who was an Indian through federal As you know, hopefully, the Assembly of First Nations is the legislation, which still exists today, are all part of the first 150 years. national and political representative of first nations governments and citizens across the country. Our role is not to act as a government; we're clearly not a government. We're an advocacy body on behalf of It really seems that why it's important that this conversation is first nations and are directed by them as to what areas they want us to happening today is that we're starting to have a bit of a switch into be responsible for. We try to harmonize and coordinate as best as we maybe more of a recovery aspect. We had an historic apology in the can. There is a wide range of diversity across the country, as I'm sure House of Commons on the residential school issue. Canada has you can appreciate. recently endorsed the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, which sets out a pretty broad framework with This conversation on Canada's 150th anniversary comes at an respect to how to partner with first nations, with indigenous peoples important time, I think, with respect to our position, the first nations around the world and, in particular, the first nations here in Canada. 2 CHPC-15 November 29, 2011 This conversation today also comes on the heels of The National's There could be an indigenous peoples library, both real and lead story last night about Attawapiskat and the horrific infra- virtual, to catalogue and consolidate historical contributions that structure that exists there today. This committee is not struck to get indigenous peoples have made to this country moving forward. to the bottom of Attawapiskat or any of those infrastructure issues on first nations, but you need to reflect that it's a part of the legacy of So Canada at 150 is an opportunity to share and fully support first 150 years of partnership in Canada. If we do nothing else here today, nation peoples and an understanding of their histories and supports it would be wonderful to be able to set in force some kind of of this country. I think that through supporting those histories, movement so that 150 years from now, at some committee perspectives, and aspirations we can support the way forward to celebrating the 300th anniversary of Canada, we're not reflecting ensure that the next seven generations have a much better path than upon shameful conditions in first nations communities across the the previous generations. country. Thank you very much To contextualize this existing relationship, it is all based, in our view, on treaties. They really were, in our view, the fundamental Ï (0855) principles of a nation-to-nation relationship between original peoples in this country and the crown. The early treaty-making of course is The Chair: Thank you, Peter, for your presentation. characterized by shared and clear objectives around coordination and today I think we should try to find mechanisms that actively reflect Next is David MacKenzie. that nature and spirit of cooperation and working together. Go ahead, David. We've talked a little about our long history of interference in this trust with each other, and how I think this comes at an important Mr. David MacKenzie (Deputy Minister, Department of time, because we may be turning the corner on that. There are unique Tourism and Culture with Senior Responsibility for Prince opportunities for this committee and the Department of Canadian Edward Island's 150th Anniversary, Government of Prince Heritage, frankly, in the short term, and to maybe set a tone in the Edward Island): On September 1, 1996, Parliament declared long term for how we work together. Charlottetown the birthplace of Confederation, and if Parliament said it, it must be true. We've always had an ambitious agenda for change, particularly always in self-determination and wanting to govern our own Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. It's really a pleasure to be communities and affairs, but our self-determination is firmly here in front of this committee. I've had some counterparts speak to grounded in language, culture, and traditional decision-making you over the last month or so and I was very envious of their ability processes, all of which are mandates of Canadian Heritage outside of to get in, so thanks very much. this particular study you're doing today. I'd also like to thank you for bringing this group together at the There are things we can do in a more immediate sense. We can table, because Peter, Deborah, Paul, and I have had a chance to support first nation languages. You know, we spend more in Canada connect, and we're also exploring ways to work together as we think supporting primarily European art forms of ballet, dance, and things about 2014 and how it connects to 2017. of that nature than we do on supporting and maintaining the first languages of this continent, which are going to be lost forever if they Prince Edward Island is extremely proud of the fact that disappear. That's something important to reflect upon on Canada's Charlottetown was declared the birthplace of Confederation, so 150th birthday, and something this department can do. much so that we have a lot of “Confederations”. We have the Confederation Centre of the Arts, the Confederation Trail, the We can look at developing curricula for all schools that provide Confederation Bridge, the Confederation Centre Children's Choir, full and clear histories of first nations with respect to treaties and Confederation Lincoln Mercury, and Confederation Realty. You those relationships that we have. name it, we have Confederation on it. We can have sustained support for first nation artists and the kind In fact, as many of you know, the Confederation Centre of the of work they do to help tell those stories, to help believe in the Arts was opened on September 1, 1964.