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[Eighth Series, Vol. XLIV, Twelfth Session, 19881191 0 (Saka)~ No. 13, Tuesday, November 29, 1988/Agrahayana 8, 191 0 {Sa~

COLUMNS

Welcome to the Cyprus Parliamentary Delegation 1-2

0, al Answers to Questions:

*Starred Questions Nos. 246, 249, 253 to 255, 258 and 259 2-51

Written Answers to Questions: 51 -422

Starred Questions Nos. 247,248,251,252,256,257 and 51-63 260 to 266

Unstarred Questions Nos. 2325 to 2341 , 2343 to 2413, 63 -419 2415 to 2494, 2496 to 2507, 2509 to 2519 and 2521 to 2559

Papers Laid on the Table 423-4tS

Supplementary Demands for Grants (Tamil Nadu), 1988-89- 426 -428

statement presented

Calling attention to matter of urgent public importance- 429 -480

Reported atrOCities on women in different parts of the country and steps taken by Government in that regard-

Shn Shantl Dhariwal 429 433 -444 Shnmati Margaret Alva 429 -433 471 -480 . Dr. G. S. Rajhans 444-450

Kumari Mamata Banerjee 451 -457

Shri Dharam Pal Singh Malik 457 - 471

Matters under Rule 377 480 -4B7

(i) Demand for allotting waste land to the landless poor after making it cultivable-

Shri Shanti Dhariwal 480

* The Sign t marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

COLUMNS

(ii) Demand for research'by Spices Board in order to check the IQuick Wilt' disease affading p~pper crop in Kerala and to pay compensation to the affected farmers-

Prof. P. J. Kurian 481

(iii) Demand for a separ~te postal circle for Goa and improvement in postal services-

Shri Shantaram Naik 481 -482

liv) Demand for sending Central team to Himachal Pradesh to assess damage caused by heavy rains in the State and to provide necessary assistance-

Shri K. D. Sultanpuri 482

(v) Demand for financial and other assistance to U. P. Government to meet drought situation in certain parts of the State-

Shri Umakant Mishra 483

(vi) Demand for clearance to scheme submitted by D. R. D. A. for construction of cemented drains in Gang Nahar and Bhakhra Nahar areas of Ganganagar in Rajasthan-

Shri Birbal 484

(vii) Demand for further research on the use of Ramie, a staple fibre, and its popularisation in the country-

Shri Ataur Rahman 484-485

(viii) Demand for a Navodaya Vidayalaya in Bhargain town in Etah district of Uttar Pradesh-

Shri Mohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan 485 -486

(ix) Demand for classifying Ramanathapuram town in Tamil Nadu as Ie' class city-

Shri P. Kolandaivelu 486-487

Sixth schedule to the constitution (Amendment) Bill- 487-577

Motion to consider-

Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev 487-489 538-544 Shri 8aju Ban Riyan 493-504 (iii)

COlUMNS

Shri Dinesh Goswami 504-509

Shri N. Tombi Singh 509 -513

Shri P. K. Thungon 513-517

Shri Vijay N. Patil 517 - 518

Shri G. G. Swell 518 -523

Shri Syed Shahabuddin 524-529

Shri Narayan Choubey 529-530

Shri E. Ayyapu Reddy 531 -533

Shri Abdul Rashid Kabuli 533-536

Shri Balwant Singh Ramoowalia 536

Shri C. Janga Reddy 537-538

Clauses 2 and 1 545 -561

Motions to pass. as amended-

Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev 546 -547

Shri Ajoy Biswas 561 -562

National Highways Authority of India Bill- 577-598

Motions to consider-

Shri Rajesh Pilot 577-590

Clauses 2 to 37 and 1- 591 -592

Motion to pass-

Shri Rajesh Pilot 596-598

Shri V. Tulsiram 593-594

Shri C. Janga Reddy 594-596 LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOKSABHA The Delegation arrived Delhi on Mon- day, 28 November, 1988. They are now Tuesday, November 29, 19881Agrahayana seated in the Special Box. We wish them a 8, 1910 (Sakai happy and fruitful stay in our country. We also convey our warm greetings and very best wishes through them to His Excellency The Lok Sabha met at the President, the Parliament, the Govern- Eleven of the Clock ment and the friendly people of the Republic of Cyprus. [MR. SPEAKER in the Chai~

WELCOME TO THE CYPRUS PARLIA- MENTARY DELEGATION ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS [English] [ Translation] MR. SPEAKER: Hon'ble Members, at the outset, I have to make an announce- Utilisation of Hydrocarbons in Rajast· ment. han

On my own behalf and on behalf of the *246. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Will Hon'ble Members of the House, I have great the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- pleasure in extending our warm welcome to RAL GAS be pleased to state: His Excellency Dr. Vassos Lyssarides, President of the House of Representatives (a) whether there is a great scope for of Cyprus and the Hon'ble Members of the setting up of petrochemical industries in Cyprus Pariiamentary Delegation who are Jaisalmer district, Rajasthan as large re- on a visit to India as our honoured guests. serves of hydro-carbons have been found there; The other Hon'ble Members of the Delegation are: (b) if so, the name of the agency through which Government propose to util- 1. Mr. Takis Hadjidemetrious, MP ise these gas reserves; and

2. Mr. George Savvides, MP (c) the time by which these gas re- 3. Mr. Andreas Mathekolonis, MP serves are likely to be utilised and whether any progress has been made so far in this 4. Mr. Andreas Demetriades, MP regard? 3 Ora/ Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 4

[English] MR. SPEAKER: Did you not feel heat.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SHRI BRAHMA DUn: I did not go MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- there in summer. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) to (c). Oil India ltd. has discovered gas in the first MR. SPE,AKER: Go there in the month exploratory well drilled at Tanot in Jaisalmer of June. District, Rajasthan. Additional welfs would require to be drilled to assess the potential of SHRI BRAHMA DUn: I went there the structure. ONGC have also found gas in after rainy season and there was some the area and has committed a quantity of greenery. Of course, we are trying to find oil 50,000 M3/dayfor supply for a power plant at there. Oil India Ltd. and O.N.G.C. are mak- Ramgarh. At present no petrochemical in- ing efforts to that effect. ONGC has discov- dustries have been planned based on natu- ered gas in Ghotaru, Manihari and Tibba but ral gas in this area. they have not yet struck oil. Oil India Ltd, has found gas in Tanot. Forthe first time a flow of [ Trans/ation] 40,000 cubic metre has been discovered. There is a necessity of further development SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Mr. there. Wells and rigs are required. I have Speaker, Barmer and Jaisalmer are desert myself gone to Ramgarh and get the digging areas and drought is a common feature work started. We have dug upto 2,000 there. During summer the people there have metres in Ramgarh but gas has not yet been to migrate with their cattle to other places found. and the Government has to spend crores of rupees on providing drought relief so that It is true that traces of helium gas has they may get food somehow. Oil India Ltd. been found in Manihari, Tibba and Ghotaru. and ONGC have found large reserves of oil Reserves are definitely there. There is an- in Manihari, Tibba, Ghotaru, Tanot and other proof that since gas and oil have been Ramgarh areas which are scarcely found in found in the area falling in Pakistan, special other parts of the country. Helium gas has aMention is therefore, being paid to it. For the been found in Manihari, Tibba and Ghotari present, we are trying to link all the four and hydro-carbon gas in Tanot to such a places through a pipe fine. By the time the great extent that it will be a problem for the power plant is ready next year, gas will be Government to utilise it fully. The Govern- supplied to it. We have com mitted 50,000 ment has set up Petro-Chemical, fertiliser cubic metre. Secondly, the lime-stone avail- and L.P .G. bottling plant~ to utilise the oil and able there is also of good quality. We will try gas found in Maharastra, Gujarat, Assam to supply it to the lime-stone based industry and at other places. Will the Government if they needed it. We are in touch with the utilise the hydro-carbon gas found in this Atomic Energy Commission in this connec- desert area, particularly for industrialisation tion to find out whether helium can be and what are the Government plans for extracted from it. Helium is a valuable item utilisations of gas and oil found in this area? for us because we import hetium worth rupees 30-40 crores. If it is possible to set up SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: I agree with the a helium plant there we are prepared to views of the Hon. Member. I went there 2-3 finance it, but it will have to be considered months back and was glad to find that there from technical point of view. It is still in the isgreenerythisyearwhich was notthere last process of development. I think it will not be year. appropriate to make any promise. I can say 5 Oral Answers AGRAHAVANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 only this much that full efforts will be made for not supplying more gas, a plant of 3 MW is the exploitation of oil and gas which have being set up instead of a plant of 9 MW. Will been found there. you be able to supply gas at concessional rates? SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Mr. Speaker, through helium gas found in SHRI BRAHMA DUIT: The hone Ghotaru, Tanot, Manihari and Tibba we will Member accompanied me when I had gone save foreign exchange worth As. 30-40 there. I can say only this much that gas is crores every year. Such a gas has been being made available at the lowest rate. So found only there in the whole of ~untry. It far as the question of quantity of gas is has not been found anywhere else. This concerned, we can supply whatever the statement was made by the han. Minister quantity is available. We have committed a when he went there in August to initiate the quantity of 50 thousand cubic metre per day. work of digging oil wells. Keeping this If more gas is available, turbines will be set achievement in view and also the backward- up. Th~ question of supplying gas outside ness of the area, will the Government supply does not arise. more rigs to accelerate the exploration work there and what plan is being formulated for [English] the utilisation of helium gas? Losses In DESU SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: Mr. Speaker, I stated not only in August but also 2 minutes *249. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will back that traces of helium have been found the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: in the gas found in that area. It is estimated that it may be 0.1 per cent. We are in touch (a) whetner the Delhi Electric Suppty with the Atomic Energy Commission and Undertaking has been incurring losses for others who are in possession of full knowl- the past several years; edge about it and if the proposal is found feasible from technical point of view, fi- (b) the amount of loss incurred by the nances will be provided because we con- Delhi Electric Supply Undertaking in 1972- sume helium worth As. 30-40 crores. So far 73, 1977-78, 1982-83 and 1987-88; as completion of this work is concerned, we had a meeting lately and we are striving to (c) the reasons identified for such provide more rigs for expediting the explora- losses and the steps taken to reduce them; tion and survey work there. (d) whether electricity bills are sent to MR. SPEAKER: Helium must be consumers regularly; if so, the periodicity traced. prescribed for sending the bills; and

SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: If these are your (e) the number and amountof electricity orders, we will definitely do that. bills pending payment for three months, six months and one year or more and the action SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: A gas taken to realise the arrears? based power house is being set up in Ramgarh on the basisofthe gas found there. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE May I know the reason for not supplying gas DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS .. to the power house at concessional rates? It TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNAT: . ~AI): is causing obstruction in the work. As you are (a) to (e). A Statement is given below. 7 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 8

STATEMENT [ Trans/ation]

(a) Yes, Sir. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: The han. Minister has told that DESU did not suffer (b) The losses during the financial any loss during 1972-73 and now when they years under reference are as under:- are purchasing and utilising modern equipments losses are increasing. DESU suffered Years Amount of loss a loss of Rs. 70.25 crores in 1982-83 and Rs. 155.34 crores in 1987'-88. Will you institute 1 ::_'72-73 ris. Nil an enquiry to find our whether the goods, which are purchased by DESU from the 1977-7& Rs. 8.23 crores market, are purchased on high rates resulting In increase in losses. We did not have 1982-83 Rs. 70.25 crores modern equipment in 1972-73 and there was no loss and today when we are utilising 1987-88 Rs.155.34 crores modern equipments losses are increasing. (Provisional) Please get it enquired into?

(c) The main reasons for the losses are SHRI KALPNATH RAI: The main rea- all round increase in the cost of inputs leCld- sons for the losses are slackness in revenue ing to increase in the cost of DESU's own realisation continued increase in the rate of generation, increase in the rates of power electriCity being purchased from Badarpur, purchased from other sources, continued over-staffing and pilferage of power. An increase in operation costs, increase In T & D amount of Rs. 20~i5 crores is yet to be losses, increase in revenue arrears and recovered on thls account besides a sum of organisational deficiencies. Steps being Rs. 209 crores IS due from other institutions. taken to reduce losses inter-alia include The Government is looking into its financial improvement in revenue realisation, improv- position and IS trying to improve it. ing efficiency to reduce operational and administrative costs. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: The hon. Minister has said that sometimes Bills do not (d) Electricity bills are normally sent by reach the consumers in time due to comput- JESU every month in the case of industrial erisation. Is he aware that Bills do not reach consumers and once in two months in the the consumers upto full one ortwo years with case of domestic consumers. Tho Billing the result that the consumers are deprived ot cycle is normally adhered to. However, ISSU- tho discount wilich is otherwl~)e made avail- ing of bills got delayed in certnin dlstrwts ahle to them? Is it also a fact that in case of beyond the prescribed periodicity due to 1he wnJnq billing by c(Jll1puters, the Grnployees initial problems in computerisation. of Dl ~)U 00 not COt rect them saying that the Bill will be corr 8cted by the computer? This (e) Issue of Electricity Bills and realisa- encourau(~s COl ruption and there after the tion of revenue is a continuous process. In bills dfe ('or I (!cted by them. Will you make case payment is not made by consumers. 3rrangements to provIde jobs to the unem- the amount is added as arrears in subse- ployed in our country instead for increasing quent bill, and recovery of arrears of dues is the number of computers? pursued. Efforts to further stream line the billing and revenue realisation arrange- SHRI KALPNATH RAI: Bills could not ments are continued. be sent due to computerisation but the work 9 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 8.1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 10

of reconciling the billing has been done Limited) not only for Bombay Directory but properly. The Government is trying to im· also for Delhi Directory. It is one contract. prove the state of affairs of DESU contin- The contract is for yearly issues for five years uously. and not one issue of September, 1988. The important terms of the contract are: [English] (1) The contractor will publish the directories with Yellow pages Bombay Telephone Directory and supply the required number of copies free of cost to MTNL. ·253. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK'to : (2) Supplementary directories will SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: be published in between two main issues of the directories Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- and the required numberof cop- TIONS be pleased to state: ies supplied free of cost to MTNL (a) Whetherthe MahanagarTelephone Nigam Limited had entered into contract with (3) The contractor will also pay roy- the United Database India Limited for supply alty of As. 20.16 crores for five of now telephone directory to subscribers in issues to MTNL in lieu of the Bombay by September, 1988, if so, the rights to publish the directories terms of the contract; with Yellow Pages and other advertisements. (b) the total demand of the subscribers; (b) and (c). There is a total demand of (c) the number of copies for which order about 7.6 lakhs copies and ardors for the was placed and the number supplied by the same have already been placed. 1,72,295 United Database India Limited; directories have already been received till 15-11-1988. (d) Whether the United Database India Limited has committed breach of contract in respect of supply of copies of Directory and (d) and (e). The Bombay Telephone if so, the details thereof and the action taken Directory has been printed on 30-8-88 and against the firm; and about 80,000 directories have been distributed to the subscribers. There has been (e) When the new and updated tele- delay in priniing of the remaining copiQS of phone diroctory will be made available to the directories. The contractor has reported subscribers in Bombay? this delay due to non availability of sufficient quantity of pap8r. Another about 92,000 THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- copies of the directories have been received TIONS (SHRI SIR BAHADUR SINGH): (a) from the contractor and more are in the pipe to (e). A Statement given below. line. The directory distribution will be resumed after MTNL has collected about 2 STATEMENT lakh directories. The delay in the supply of the directories by the contractor has been (a) MTNL has a contract with Mis duly noticed and action as terms and condi- United India Periodicals (United Database tions of the contract will be taken. 11 Oral Answ9rs NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 12

[ Trans/ation] [English]

SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: The delay in the supply of the directories Mr. Speaker, Sir, in reply to my question, the by the contractor has been duly noticed and han. Minister has stated in parts (b) and (c) action as per terms and conditions of the of his reply that out of 7.6 lakh to be supplied contract will be taken. only 1,72,295 directories have been received till1S.11.1988. First of all, I would like [ Translation] to know the date by which 7.6 lakh directories were to be supplied by the contractor Sir, six months have since passed, the because in the reply you have not revealed contractor was to supply the directories by the date by which the subscribers were 5th June, 1988, I want a clear reply from the expected to receive directories as per their hone Minister as to what action has been demand. Secondly, I want to know the con- taken or proposed to be taken against the ditions of the contract finalised by M.T.N.L. contractor during these six months? Do the with the contractor under which action could Government propose to blacklist the con- be taken against the latter for not supplying tracting company? Secondly. will the sub- the directories in time. I want to know these scribers in Bombay be compensated for not conditions in detail. supply telephone directories in time while you had contracted for suppliny of directo- SHRI SIR SAHADUR SINGH: It IS true ries in time? that 7 lakh 60 thousand directories were to be supplied according to the contract and the SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH: Accord- last date for the supply was 5th June, 1988 ing to the contract finalised with the company but the number of directories, which were there is a provision for a penalty of Rs. 1 lakh supplied was very small. The main reason on the contractor for delay in supplying the for this was delay in supply of paper to the directories. But the quotation given by the contractor due to which be could not supply company was so low and had the contract the directories in time. He has, however, been cancelled, the Government and its assured that it would not happen in future. Departments would have suffered a great Secondly. the paper, which was required for loss. The way company behaved thereafter, directories was not produced in the country it is expected that they will work properly in and was to be imported. But contractor was future. A warning has been issued to the not permitted to import the paper, this also company and they have assured that they caused delay. Arrangements h~d to be will work properly next time and such mis- made for producing this paper in the country, take will not occur in future. In fact, non- thereafter the directories were printed, this availability of paper has caused the delay. also caused delay. The company has as- We hope that such delay will not occur in sured us that tho directories would be printed future. in time in future without any carelessness. [English] SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Minister has not SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: From the facts given a clear reply to my question and the disclosed in the reply, it is very horrifying to written reply seems to be very vague. First of note that while the contract was for printing all, I want to draw his attention to the last the Bombay directory and copies required to paragraph of the written answer wherein it be supplied were 7.6 lakhs, the contractor has been stated that: has been able to supply only 172295 copies 13 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA8, 1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 14 till 15th November, 1988. Apart from the fact connection, I may tell you that distribution that, there was a lot of confusion when only work of directory is being resumed again. some subscribers were supplied with these Now about two lakhs directories are avail- copies and suddenly the distribution was able with us. The Contractor has been suspended; now it has been suspended warned that it should not happen in future. If idefinitely. From the reply also, it appears such delay is occurred in future also the that further distribution will start after the appropriate action wi" be taken according to MTNL has collected about two lakh directo- rules. ries. Nobody knows when that is going to be done. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Whether the problem of paper has been This contract appears, as stated in the solved now? Whether the paper is being reply, not to have been fulfilled only due to imported from foreign countries. non-availability of paper. Now, it is clear that the contract has been given to a wrong party SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH: They and he has not been able to supply the have got manufactured the paper in the copies in time. A very few copies have been country itself. supplied and still there is the non-availability of paper. That means, he is not in a position [English] to fulfil the contract at all. Solar Power Units Will the hon. Minister take firm action against those who recommended the name *254. SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI of this contractor. GUPTA: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: [ Trans/ation] (a) the number of villages in the country SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH: Sir, where solar power units are working, State- contract is given to the companies on the wise; basis of lowest quotations. It is given in accordance with the rules. No favour is (b) the steps being taken to encourage shown to any party. people in this regard; and

As far as the delay in supply of directory (c) the assistance given by Govern- is concerned I have already explained that ment to the States therefore? delay is caused owing to non-availability of paper. As the hon. Member mentioned that THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI some directories have been supplied and VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). A statement is further supply has been stopped. In this given below. 15 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 16

STATEMENT

(a) 4,354 villages and hamlets have already been provided with solar photovoltaic street lights as a measure of initial electrification upto 30th September, 1988 as given below:

S.No. StatelUT No. of villages/hamlets provided with street tights (as on 30.9.1988) (Provisional)

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 1.894

2. Andaman & Nicobar Islands 89

3. Arunachal Pradesh 14

4. Assam 9

5. Bihar 7

6. Goa 3

7. Gujarat 265

8. Himachal Pradesh 153

9. Jammu & Kashmir 13

10. Karnataka 90

11. Kerala 29

12. Madhya Pradesh 162

13. Maharashtra 500

14. Manipur

15. Meghalaya 3

16. Mizoram 4

17. Nagaland 33

18. Orissa 206 17 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 18

1 2 3

19. Rajasthan 322

20. Tamil Nadu 137

21. Tripura 19

22. Sikkim 13

23. Uttar Prc1dosh 223

24. West Bengal 164

25. Lakshadweep 1

TOTAL 4,354

In addition, installotion of 533 numberof based on solar energy are being installed community lighting and TV systems have and information is being disseminated. also been taken up in a number of villages in the country. About 900 solar water pumping SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: systems have also been supplied to institu- Han. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the reply given by the tional and individual users for drinking water han. Minister is incomplete and misleading. supply and small scale irrigation. A few solar The han. Minister has not replied to my photovoltaic power plants of capacities be- question. t had stated that our country can tween 1 to 7 KW have also been set up in become self-sufficient in electricity by using villages in Andhra Pradesh, Goa, Gujarat. solar energy as the alternative source of Karnataka, Lakshadweep, Tamil Nadu, energy and thus we can meet the shortage of Tripura and Uttar Pradesh on an experimen- electricity but the reply given by the hon. tal basis. Two large size plants (20 to 25 KW Minister is misleading. My second question capacities) are under installation in Haryana is as to what steps have been taken to and Orissa. encourage people in this regard? He has stated that some devices based on solar energy are being installed. I want to know (b) and (c). The Department of Non- their details. My third question is about the Conventional Energy Sources is assisting assistance provided by the Central Govern- the States in conducting survey of villages, ment to the States in respect of supply of preparing project reports and in implement- solar energy. He has replied that a part of the ing photovoltaic demonstration program- cost will be met by the Central Government mes. Under the programme, other types of but it is not clear whether this one part is an assistance include supply of solar pho- 'ana', or it is a part of one hundred or it is 99 tovoltaic modules/systems, deployment, per cent or hundred per cent. 1 want to know training etc. Party of the cost is met by the as to what does he mean by la part'? Central Government. To encourage people for u~ing solar energy, several devices SHRI VASANT SATHE: Mr. Speaker, 19 Oral AnSW9rs NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 20

Sir, I have replied to the question in the best whether it is 25 per cent or 99 per cent or 100 manner. I could. per cent. He should tell it precisely.

SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: SHRI VASANT SATHE: I cannot teach Please read out the answer so that the mathemetics to the hon. Member. people may know. SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: SHRIVASANTSATHE: Ijustread it the But you should give a clear reply. street light has been supplied to 4354 villages in the country through Solar pho- SHRI VASANT SATHE: The meaning tovoltaic system and the work of establishing of one is 114th part Le. 25 percent. What else community light and T.V. systems in 535 could it be? villages has been taken up. 900 solar water pumping systems have also been supplied. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Please In reply, it has also been mentioned as to teach mathematics. how much work to Solar Energy has been executed in the States with the names of SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: those States. Again in the part (b) and (c) it want to know as to what amount is being has been mentioned that efforts are being spent on this item in the whole country and made for its encouragement. As I have told what is the contribution of the State Govern- earlier in this House that the solar energy is ments in it? How much amount has been the only biggest and most important source spent in three year? Whether it was in- to meet the shortage of energy otherwise we creased or it has remained the same? In the would not be able to supply energy in connection of Solar Energy you have rightly adequate quantity to our villages through mentioned that the God Sun is merciful on any other medium. The solar energy is avail- us, I, therefore, wanted to know this. able in this country in abundance by the grace of God God Sun is kindly to us and we SHRI VASANT SATHE: An amount of should take advantage of it and should make only 500 erore rupees has been earmarked optimum use of the same. for non-conventional sources for the whole natural energy field for the entire Five Year As structural cost of the Solar-energy is Plan which is quite inadequate. We have very high we cannot exploit it commercially spent even 25 crores rupees on Solar En- at present. I can say with full confidence that ergy till now. This is a reality and I myseH only the solar energy can meet the needs of admit it. The Government is making efforts to the people of this country. If we get the generate power based on Solar Energy and cooperation of the House and if we get a proposed to set up a project of 30 MW in higher cost, then we can achieve success in Jodhpur has been cleared. If the adequate this field otherwise, there is no other method amount becomes available, a project will be to do it. completed and thus we will gain experience in setting up projects based on Solar Energy. SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GU PTA: Mr. Speaker, Sir, in response to my second I request the han. Member with folded supplementary question. the hon'ble Minis- hands not to become angry as I agree with ter has repeated which has already been her on this issue. written in the answer itself. He said that a part of the cost is met by the Government. 1 MR. SPEAKER: The hone Minister is wanted to know the clear meaning of la part'. very afraid of your being angry. 21 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 22

SHRIMATI PRABHAWATI GUPTA: Andhra Pradesh -stands first amongst all am not angry other States.

MR. SPEAKER: Madam, you should In view of the fact that Andhra Pradesh live happily. is foremost in making use of this non- conventional energy, will the government SHRI MOHO. AYUB KHAN: Sir, you think of having a regional office of this De- are aware of the fact that Rajasthan specially partment-there is a great enthusiasm in Seekar and Jhunjhunu of Shakhavati area Andhra Pradesh to make use of it-at are the most backward areas in the matter in Hyderabad? so far as power is concerned. SHRI VASANT SATHE: The Non- Conventional Sources of Energy has its MR. SPEAKER: There should be some departments in the States. Every State has one to plead. a department for non-conventional sources of energy. There is no need of a separate SHRt MOHD. AYUB KHAN: Will the department to be started by the entral Gov- hon. Minister give an assurance about ac- ernment, because there is full coordination cording sanction for setting up a Solar En- with the States Governments. Every State ergy power station in Sikar and Jhunjhunu. has its own energy system and we want to cooperate with the State Government. If we MR. SPEAKER: He also wants to know start a parallel thing, there might be unnec- as to why it was not sanctioned till today? essary duplication. It is not necessary.

SHRI VASANT SATHE: If we are suc- Sick Industrial Units cessful in commissioning a Solar Power Project in Rajasthan. then, I think we would be able to set up these solar power projects *255. DR. DATTA SAMANT: Will the in Jhunjhunu and Sikar also. Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state the numberof small, medium and large scale [English] industrial units in the country which are sick as on 30 September, 1988, State-wise? SHRI E. A YYAPU REDDY: Out of 4354 villages, Andhra Pradesh stands first having THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1894 villages. Practically, 50 per cent of the DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· total villages which have gone in for solar OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- energy are located in Andhra Pradesh. Even TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): A statein the region of making use of bio-gas, ment is given below: 23 Oral Answ9rs NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 24

STATEMENT

Statewise Data on SiCk Industrial Units as at the end of June, 1987

(Source: Reserve B~rjk Of india)

Name of the Statel 1987 Union Territory " J. of Non-S51 No. of S51 ,~ :;k Units Sick Units

1 3

Andhra Pradesh 66 14064

Assam 6 3542

Bihar 26 7870

Gujarat 115 SL11

Haryana 41 1819

Himachal Pradesh 7 665

Jammu & Kashmir 2290

Karnataka 62 5105

Kerala 27 11805

Maharashtra 238 11457

Madhya Pradesh 30 11053

Orissa 10 7229

Punjab 30 1834

Rajasthan 36 8657

Tamilnadu 105 25146

Uttar Pradesh 67 16287

West Bengal 146 18129

Goa, Daman & Diu 16 1264 25 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26

1 2 3

Nagaland 14

Dadra & Nagar Haveli 1 5

Arunachal Pradesh 22

Chandigarh 3 204

Delhi 19 2577

Manipur 932

Meghalaya 1 122

Mizoram

Pondicherry 4 366

Tripura 1 556

Sikkim 1

Total: 1057 158226

Note: The data on sick industrial units in the country is maintained by Reserve Bank of India. The number of Non-SSI units indicated above include the large & medium scale sick units and the bifurcation in this regard is not available from RBI. The latest available data is upto June 1987 only.

DR. DAIT A SAMANT: In Maharashtra, modernisation. They are transferring more the maximum number of big industries are profitable industries. It is a choice of the closed; and there is a tendency of the employ- employer and they are going to the back- ers to shift industries in the backward areas by ward areas after taking '08 per cent ron- taking advantage of the law and closing old cessions and closing the old units. It is a units. In the last 4 years. 20.000 units are major fraud for creating black-money. How closed in this country. The Minister is not can the government afford to sleep by look- keeping the record; only the Reserve Bank is ing towards this? Crores and crores of keeping it. You have given the number only rupees are being converted into black- upto June 1987. But as per my knowledge, it money by these big industrialists and multi- is 1 .751akh industries in the country which are nationals. Tatas' mills are closed and their closed; and they are 10 per cent of the totat profit went up by Rs. 2000 crores worth 01 industries in the country. It is a serious issue. assets. The money of the banks, govern- The reasons are only 2 per cent labour and 70 ment corporations and the private money per cent diversification of the fund. It is a fraud are blocked in all these sick units. How in the name of modernisation. but there is no many workers have lost their jobs. What is 27 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Oral Answers 28 their total amount of gratuity. The govern- provisions are never used by the Board. ment has never given these figures. Therefore I say that further loans to fraudment industrialists should be stopped if THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI the Board is satisfied and they should be J. VEN~AL RAO): So far the number of sick forced to merge the sick units with the units is 1.59 lakh and odd. The amount healthy onces. All concessions should be outstanding is Rs. 4220 crores. 1 he percent- given only on this condition, and they should age comes to 6.8. beforced do so. This will ensure that no healthy unit is closed down. These are very DR. DATTA SAMANT: How many good steps. Who is going to ensure these workers have lost their jobs? things?

SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: In 1986, the Sir, you please protect my answer, number of units closed permanently is 218; because no answer is coming forth. I am not the number of workers affected is 25,683; in getting any reply. 1987. the number of units closed permanently is 173; the numberof workers affected MR. SPEAKER: I am protecting you, is 23. 130; in 1988, from January to April, the not your answer. number of units closed permanently is 32; the number of workers affected is 3786 SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: Maharashtra is number one in the number of sick units and DR. DATTA SAMANT: For sick indsu- they are sick because of Dr. Datta Sarnant. tries, a Board has been appointed. I am (Interruptions) bringing this to the notice of the House that all the good industries are going to the Board MR. DATTA SAMANT: What is this and getting a sick certificate and getting reply? Two per cent of the treub may be due further loan from the Reconstruction Banks to labour, but 70 percent of my mills are sick. and violating the labour law. In Maharashtra, Is it a reply (Interruptions) 300 industries got this sick certsificate and they came to Delhi. Now, they say that they [English] are out of the jurisdication of the Labour Law and they are getting further loan. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: If the sickness is due to Dr. Datta Samant, why do MR. SPEAKER: Is it their journey from you not take over Datta Samant? (Interrup- Bombay to Delhi that makes them sick? tions)

DR. DATTA SAMANT: This Board is SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: If he is pre- having powers which are not used. But if a pared to take over the management of all big industry closes its unit, the Board can these sick units, I have no objection. (Inter- force them, Tatas and Birlas, to club it with ruptions) the healthy unit. You club them for income- tax purposes. Why are you not forcing them, DR. DATTA SAMANT: They are not these big bosses, to club the losing unit with viable units. the healthy unit? Who is responsible for that? That is in the law and further loans to [ Translation] those industrialists should be stopped if the Soard finds that they have done something SHRI GIRDHARI LAl VYAS: Hen. Mr. wrong. We passed this law in 1985 but these Speaker Sir, Dr. Datta Samant is still interfer- 29 Oral Answers AGRAHAVANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

ing even in my question. he should be these sick units have been closed down by stopped. this time. May I know from the hone Minister whether the Government have examined MR. SPEAKER: Habits die hard. the reasons for sickness, why such a large number of small, large and medium units SHAI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS: Hon. Mr. have become sick? Have the Government Speaker, Sir, hone Minister has stated in his examined these aspect and what measures reply that one lakh and 59 thousand indus- or steps do the Government propose to take tries are sick in the country while answering to revive these sick industries? to the question of Dr. Datta Samant as to how many industries are sick in the country? There was a meeting with the MPs from There is a cement industry in Sawai Mod- West bengal belonging to all political parties hopur of Rajasthan and it is the oldest and and some suggestions were put forward in biggest industry of Asia with a strength of 10 that meeting. Government were to take thousand labour working in 92 units. That some steps to revive the sick industries and unit became sick due to shifting its assets to to re-open the closed indsutries and of West other places because of Alok Jain and it is Bengal where a large number of small and lying closed for the past one and half year. medium industries have become either sick No payment has been made to its workers. or have been closed down because of the Neither any benefits nor any facilities have non-availability of raw material and other been provided to them. The Department of factors. May I know from the hone Minister Industry tried to run that unit by appointing its what steps his Ministry have taken to revive officer as Chairman but no funds were made those sick industries and to re-open the available by the Government. Neither Gov- closed industries? ernment did it nor Banks or Government of Rajasthan did it while both the centre and the SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: Sir, West Rajasthan Governments have tried to run Bengal is number two in regard to sick units. this industry. Will the hon. Minister make This is not the responsibility of the Central arrangements to get financial assistance Government. .. (Interruptions) from Banks and other Financial Institutions assisting sick units to revive, modernise and SHRI 9ASUDEB ACHARIA: This is not run this sick industry? the responsibility of the State Ban Govern- ment. (Interruptions) [English] SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: Please hear SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: I think this is me. I am not running away. I will answer your about Jaipur Udyog Ltd. It is a sick unit. questions. There is some litigation going on between the State Government and some private For this purpose, BIFR is constituted ... parties. This matter has been referred to ( Interruptions) BIFR and it is under the consideration of BIFR. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: BIFR is doing nothing. SHAt BASUDEB ACHARIA: The num· ber of sick and closed units is increasing day SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: The work is by day. The figure given is not the up to date heavy. We have sanctioned another bench figure. The up to data figure is more than one also for BIFR. They will review aU these lakh and seventy thousand. A number of things and they will suggest the method of 31 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 32 revivability to the Government. .. (Interrup- vat ion of certain products for small scale tions) industries. We are strictly implamenting it. ( Interruptions) SHRI V. SOBHANADREESWARA RAO: Sir, the figures given by the hon. KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: I am Minister are very alarming. The tate of sev- grateful to you for allowing me to put a eral lakhs of workers who are employed in question. these industries will go to doom. My question is: Is it because these small units and Sir, will you supply oxygen to our Indus- medium units are not able to compete with try Minister because he himself is sick? the large industries? The same product is being produced in the small and cottage In Maharashtra, Be regal and Tamil industries as well as the big industries, Nadu-these State are facing maximum thereby the product of the small industries crisis because of the sick industries. Sir, in cannot compete with the product of the big Septermber I started hunger strike in front of industries. Sir, on paper there is protection to Shri Vengal Rao's chamber to re-open some small scale indsutry in! respect of certain industries in my Stat$. The Minister assured l products. It is only on paper, but n01 in me, 'you withdraw your hunger strike, I will practice because the multinationals and big visit your State and sit with your State Gov- industrialists are manufacturing those items ernment and MPs. I will set up one mani- in the name of some of their henchmen. Will toring committee to re-open closed indus- the Government take all necessary steps to tries'. Three months had passed. Nothing see that this practice is put an end and a real had been done. Will you instruct the Industry protection is given to the small scale indus- Minister to implement the asurance given to tries so that they can survive. prosper. pro- me? Otherwise, I will start another hunger duce the goods and provide employment to strike in front of his chamber. (Interruptions) vast millions of this country? You protect me, Sir.

SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: We·are cara- MR. SPEAKER: Do you like hunger for funy watching and monitoring all these you and food for him? things. It depends on the management and the person of the management. Some KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: No people are siphoning off the funds and show- food for him. ing the sickness. Shri B.B. Ramiah is the Managing Director of Andhra Sugars. You SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: I am surprised see, how they are managing their industry. to see that on this aspect the Congress MPs For example, in your constituency, Chella- and CPM Mps are all one. palli Sugars was clased after the decision of the BIFR and it was amalgamated with KCP. MR. SPEAKER: There is a common Now, it is running in profit .... (Interruptions) ground.

SHAI V. SO~HANADREESWARA SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: The hen. RAO: You must come to my protection Sir. Member wanted that Government of India He is not answering my question. About should take over all the sick units in West reservation of certain products, he ignored Bengal. How is it possible? It is not pos- it...... ( Interruptions) sible ... (Interruptions)

SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: There is reser- MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Acharia, I have not 33 Oral Answers AGRAHAVANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 34 allowed you to intervene like this. was stopped on 30th September. Now it is under consideration of the Government. SHAI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: What about the asurances he gave to her? Loss of Production Due to Power Shortage MR. SPEAKER: This is something outside the House ... (Interruptions) *258. SHAI BRAJAMOHAN MO- HANTY: MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Chowdhary and SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: Miss Mamata are one today. Will the Minister of ENERGY be SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: Today pleased to state: 1.70 lakh industries are sick and the Govern- ment all along ;s assuring the House that the (a) whether any assessment has been matter is under consideration. The workers made about the loss of production during the have been rendered jobless. They are dying year 1987-88 and upto end of September, for want of food and shelter. 1988 on account of power shortage; and

MR. SPEAKER: Put the question. (b) if so, the details thereof, State-wise?

SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: I am putting the question. May I know from the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE hon. Minister whetehr central subsidy given DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- to the industrialists in Assam has been TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): stopped fron1 September, 1988? Is it a fact (a) and (b). Production is dependent on that because of this, more than 200 indutries several factors like availability of raw mate- are on the verge of closure? What steps is ria', demand for the product, Industrial rela- the Minister going to take to extend the tionship, management efficiency etc. There- subsidy to the industries and thus protect the fore, the loss in production on account of workers? power shortage alone cannot be quantified. However, statements I & II showing the SHRr J. VENGAL RAO: The question is power supply position during 1987-88 and about sick industries. He is asking about the during April-September, 1988 are given subsidy. I will answer that also. The subsidy below. 35 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answ9fS 36

STATEMENT

Loss of Production due to Power Shortage Actual Power Supply Position April, 1987-March, 1988.

(Figs. in MUnet.)

Region/State/System Requirement Availability Deficit %

1 2 3 4 5

NORTHERN REGION

Chandigarh 424 423 1 0.20/0

Delhi 5435 6332 103 1.60/0

Haryana 7042 6106 936 13.30/0

Himach al Pradesh 1094 1073 21 1.90/0

Jammu & Kashmir 2316 2060 256 11.1%

Punjab Incl. NFF 12906 12058 848 6.60/0

Rajasthan 8854 7885 969 10.90/0

Uttar Pradesh 23820 19864 3956 16.6%

Total (N.R.) 62891 55801 7090 11.3%

WESTERN REGION

Gujarat 18164 17419 745 4.1%

Madhya Pradesh 14047 13494 553 3.9%

Maharashtra 30432 28619 1813 6.00/0

Goa 492 492 0 0.00/0

Total (W.R.) 63135 60024 3111 4.9%

SOUTHERN REGION

Andhra Pradesh 16636 14693 1943 11.?O/o 37 Oral Answers AGRAHAVANA 8. 1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 38

1 2 3 4 5

Karnataka 15185 10556 4629 30.5%

Kerala 6135 5196 939 15.3%

Tamil Nadu 17330 15482 1848 10.7%

Total (S.R.) 55286 45927 9359 16.9%

EASTERN REGION

Bihar 5135 4179 956 18.60/0

D.V.C. 7085 6484 601 8.50/0

Orissa 6880 5683 1197 17.4%

West Bengal 8460 7859 601 7.1%

Total (E.R.) 27560 24205 3355 12.2%

NORTH EASTERN REGION 2121 2019 102 4.80/0

ALL INDIA 210903 187976 23017 10.90/0

STATE MENT II

Loss of Production Due to Power Shortage

Actual Power Supply Position April-September, 1988

April, 1988-Septenlber, 1988

(Fig. in Mu net.)

RegIon/State/System Requirement Availability Shortage %

1 2 3 4 5 Northern Region

Chandigarh 242 ;~42 0 0.0%

Delhi 3138 370r, 32 0.90/0

. of' Haryana ~ ...... 3420 80 2.3% 39 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Oral Answers 40

1 2 3 4 5

Himachal Pradesh 537 537 0 0.0%

Jammu & Kashmir 1300 1082 218 16.8%

Punjab inc!. NFF 7592 7477 115 1.50/0

Rajasthan 4226 4117 109 2.6%

Uttar Pradesh 11790 10299 1491 12.6%

Total (N.R.) 32925 30880 2045 6.20/0

Western Region

Gujarat 8770 8635 135 1.5%

Madhya Pradesh 6745 6335 410 6.1 %

Maharashtra 15240 14778 452 3.0%

Goa 258 258 a 0.0%

Total (W.R.) 31010 30016 997 3.2%

Southern Region

Andhra Pradesh 8175 7035 1140 13.9%

Karnataka 7280 5108 2142 29.4%

Kerala 3150 2786 414 13.1%

Tamil Nadu 9265 8661 604 6.5%

Total (S.R.) 27870 23570 4300 15.40/0

Eastern Region

Bihar 2700 2419 281 10.40/0

D.V.C. 3525 3213 312 8.90/0

Orissa 3360 2823 537 16.0% 41 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 42

1 2 3 4 5

West Bengal 4410 4152 258 5.9%

Total (E. A.) 13995 12607 1388 9.90/0

North Eastern Region 1181 1115 66 5.60/0

AI/India 106984 98188 8796 8.2%

SHRI BRAJA MOHAN MOHANTY: question is what are the on-going projects in From the figurs given by the hon. Minister it Orissa and what are the proposals for power appers that in power shortage during 1987- projects awaiting clearance from the Gov- 88 and during April-September 1988 Orssa ernment of India. However, I forego my right occupies the third place. Orissa is a back- for second supplementary. Now I add ward State. Because of infrastructural defi- whether the States which are continuously, cien(:ies, it is a backward State. So, my for the last 30 years, are lagging behind the question would bet what are the on-going national average-national average of per projects in Orissa and what are the propos- capita income and national average of infra- als for power projects pending with the structure-would get a special priority so far Government of India for clearance. as clearance of the power projects is concerned. The hon. Minister may enlighten me SHRI KALPNATH RAI: Sir, to meet the what are the on-going projects, what are the power shortage in Orissa, the Cabinet has projects pending and whether the backward just taken a decision and the Talchar super States will receive priority in clerance of the thermal power station has been sanctiond power projects. 1,000 MW. This cost Rs. 1,500 crores. There is shortage of power in the country but the THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Government is trying its level best to in- VASANT SATHE): Sir, this question was not crease the power production. Today, 56,000 restricted only to Orissa. That is why special MW capacity of power generation has taken statement relating to Orissa has not been place and the Government is tryihg to add made. We were discussing in general. But I 38,000 MW of power production in the Eighty would supply the necessary information re- Five Year Plan. The more the power produc- lating to Orissa about the on-going projects. tion, the more the agricultural and industrial Broadly, as far as Orissa is concerned, two production will take place in the country. The major projects, one Talcher and another Ib, Government is trying its best to provide are being cleared and this will add substan- maximum power to Orissa. tially to the need of power for Orissa. But apart from these, as far as Orissa is con- [ Trans/ation] cerned, it is essential that tHe State Electric- ity Board should improve its plant load factor SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: It is We are assisting the State Electricity Board a sort of statement. also improving, for modernisation and upgradation, the State Electricity Board's per- [Eng/ish] formance so that they may be able to generate more power from their own State Elec- This is no answer to my question. My tricity Board's projects. In addition, I may 43 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answers 44 also state that the private sector is wiHing to (c) the names of the countries proposed supply power to the State Electricity Board. to be linked with India by International Sub- That also be utilised. Thus, all measures scriber Dailling (ISO) facility during the next should be taken to ensure that there is five years? adequate power generated and supplied in Orissa. THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- TIONS (SHIR SIR BAHADUR SINGH): (a) SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: SIr, Yes, Sir. my other question is when wililb and Tatcher projects will be completed and whether the (b) and (c). 176 foreign countries have Government of India will consider the instal- been linked with India for ISO facility. Names laton of a nuclear power station in Orissa to of these countries are showin in Statement I meet the powr deficit. below. List of countries with whom negotiations are under way for inclusion in the ISO SHRI VASANT SATHE: Sir, for nuclear network is shown in Statement II below. power. he will have to address his question Provision of International Subscriber Di- to the Department which deals with nuclear alling facility to these countries depends powr projects. I will not be able to comment upon response from these countries. on that. But as far as Ib and Talchar are concerned, these two big super thermal STATEMENT I power stations will take somewhere about five to six years to be completed. List of Countries Available on ISO

SHRI S. M. GURADDI: Sir, is it not a S./No. Country fact that the Karnataka Government has sent so many proposals for generating 1 2 power but you have not sanctioned them, you have not approved those proposals till 1. Albania now? 2. Algeria 3. Andorra SHRI VASANT SATHE: It is not a fact. 4. Angola 5. Auguilla Linking of Foreign Countries by ISO 6. Antigua facility 7. Argentina 8. Aruba *259. SHIR P. M. SAYEED: Will the 9. Ascension Island Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased 10. Australia to state: 11. Austria 12. Azores (a) whether new satellities are pro- 13. Bahamas posed to be linked forthe purpose of improv- 14. Bahrain ing the augmentation of the existing capacity 15. Bangaladesh of communications in the country; 16. Barbados 17. Belgium {b) the names and number of foreIgn 18. Belize countries with which India has direct dailling 19. Benin telephone facilities; and 20. Berumuda 45 Oral Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Oral Answers 46

1 2 1 2

21. Bolivia 67. Haiti 22. Bostwana 68. Honduras 23. Brazil 69. Hong Kong 24. Brunei 70. Hungry 25. Bulgaria 71. Iceland 26. Burkina Fasso 72. Indonesia 27. Burma 73. Iran 28. Burundi 74. Iraq 29. Cameroon 75. Ireland 30. Canada 76. Ital'y 31. Canary Islands 77. Ivery Coast 32. Cayman Islands 78. Jamaica 33. Central African Republic 79. Japan 34. Chad Republic 80. Jordan 35. Chile 81. Kenya 36. Christmas Islands 82. Kiribati 37. Colombia 83. Kuwait 38. Congo People's Republic 84. Lebanon 39. Cook Islands 85. Lesotho 40. Costa Rica 86. Liberia 41. Cuba 87. Libya 42. Cyprus 88. Lwxembourg 43. Czechoslovakia 89. Macao 44. Denmark 90. Madeira 45. Djibouti 91. Malagasy 46. Dominican Island 92. Malawi 47. Oem inican Republic 93. Malaysia 48. Ecuador 94. Maldives 49~ Egypt 95. Mali 50. Ethiopia 96. Malta 51. Falkland Islands 97. Marshal Island 52. Fiji 98. Martinique 53. Finalnd 99. Mauritius 54. France 100. Mexico 55. Gabon 101. Micronesia 56. Gambia 102. Monaco 57. Germany East GDR 103. Montserrat 58. Germany West FAG 104. Morocco 59. Ghana 105. Mozambique 60. Gibraltar 106. Namiba 61. Greece 107. Nauru 62. Grenada 108. Nepal 63. Guadeloupe 109. Netherlands 64. Guam 110. Netherlands Antilles 65. Guatemala 111. Newzealand 66. -,?uyana 112. Nicaragua 47 Oral Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Oral Answ9rs 48

1 2 1 2 113. Niger 157. Trinidad and Tobago 114. Nigeria 158. Tunisia 115. Norfolk Island 159. Turkey 116. Norway 160. U.A.E. 117. Oman 161. U.S.S.R. 118. Pakistan 162. Uganda 119. Palau 163. United Kingdom 120. Panama 164. United States 121. Papua New Guinea 165. Uruguay 122. Paraguay 166. Vanuatu (New Habrides) 123. Peru 167. Vinezuela. 124. Phillipines 16B. Virgin IS (8) 125. Poland 169. Yemen Arab Republic 126. Portugal 170. Yugoslavia 127. Puerto Rico 171. Zaire 128. Qatar 172. Zambia 129. Romania 173. Zimbabwe 130. Rwanda 131. Samoa West List of destinations (Separate Telecommu- 132. San Marino nication entities.) 133. Saudi Arabia 174. Alaska 134. Senegal 175. Hawaii 135. Seychelles 176. Vatican City. 136. Sierraleone 137. Singapore STATEMENT II 138. Solomon Islands 139. Somalia List of Countries/Territories with whom 140. South Korea negotiations are under way for inclusion in 141. Spain the ISO network 142. Sri Lanka 143. St. Christopher 51. No. Country 144. St. Lucia 145. St. Vincent 1 2 146. Sudan 147. Surinam 1. Afganistan 148. Swaziland 2. Cape Verde IS 149. Sweden 3. Carriacou 150. Switzerland 4. China People's Republic 151. Syria 5. Cocos-Keeling 152. Taiwan 6. Comoros Fed. Rep. 153. Tanzania 7. EI Salvador 154. Thailand 8. Greenland 155. Togolese Republic 9. Guantanamo Bay 156. Tonga 10. Guinea Rep. of 49 Oral Answers AGRAHAVANA 8.1910 (SAKA) Or,/ Answers 50

tion immediately to othr parts of the country. 1 2 Whereas if you dan from mainland to these far flung areas, you do not get the connec- 11. Guinea Bissau Rep. tion. What I wanted to know from the Minister 12. Guiana-French is whether the Government is proposing to 13. Jhonston Island have new satellites in order to improve and 14. Kampuchea Oem. Rep. augmen, the existing system. May I seek 15. Korea North clarifications from the hone Minister whether 16. Lao (People's Oem. Rep) the Government is proposing to do that? 17. Mariana Island 18. Mayotte Island [ Translation] 19. Mauritania 20. Mongolia Rep. of SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH: Sir. 21. Niue Island there are 68 Satellite Earth Stations in our 22. Pitearn Island country according to existing system. The 23. St. Helena han. Member has asked about giving priority 24. Samoa to Nicobar and other remote areas. Of 25. Saotome and Principle Island course, we give priorities but at present there 26. Faores Island are 68 satellite Earth Stations and several 27. Tokelau Island other stations of low capacity are also being 28. Tristan Oa Cunha set up. I may tell the hon. Member that we are 29. Turks Island having satellite stations as per our require- 30 Tuvalu ments. We have also got assistance from 31. Vietnam (Oem. Pep.) Insat and our requirements will continue 32. Virgin Island (USA) (St. Croix, Ie to be met in future also in accordance with St. John and St. Thomas) our plans. 33. Wake Island 34. Wallis and Futuna [English] 35. Yemen (PDR) Aden. SHRI P. M. SAYEEO: Mr. Speaker, I do SHRt P. M. SAYEEO: Mr. Speaker, Sir, not know whether you are satisfied with the part (a) of my question has not been an- answer given by the hone Minister. swered. I would again read out the question for the benefit of the hone Minister. My ques- MR. SPEAKER: Are you satisfied? tion is: SHRI P. M. SAVEED: No, Sir. My "(a) whether new satellites are second supplen,entary is this. Sir, there are proposed to be linked for the pur- four satellite earth statons now being con- pose of improving the augmenta- structed in Lakshadweep. They are in tion of the existing capacity of Kilthan, Kalpeni, Agati and Androth. In the communications in the country;" Isalnd Development Authority meeting. the Ministry officials had gone on record that the Sir, perhaps you might not have had the time-schedule to commission these Earth experience ad dialling from and to An- stations, that is, on 31-12-1988, will be daman, lakshadw99p Islands and some strictly adhered to. That was repeated in the other far flung areas which are connected Steering Committing meeting again and with satellite communication. We have now again and now J have asked the queston satellite links areas. with these From there if about the progress of thase Satellite Earth you dan just like a local call, you get connec.. 51 Writt9n AnSw9rs NOVEMBER 29, 198a Writt9n Answers 52

Stations being constructed in the Islands. I from time to time; was given an answer at these will be com· plated and commissioned in 1988-89. I want (b) whether the cost of the total project a categorical answer from the hen. Minister. has been sharply increasing as a result They wanted us to construd the civil work in thereof: most of these places and the buildings have been completed. Whatever materials they (c) if so, the facts and details thereof; wanted were given. We have also.given the and shipping transport facilities for transporting the installations materials. But they have not (d) the steps being contemplated to yet completed the installation work. I would complete the projed immediately? like to know whether the tima·schedule given to the hon. Prime Minister to comolls- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sion these Satellite Earth Stations in La- DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS· kshadweep by 31-12-1988 will be strictly TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K. JAFFAR adhered to. SHARIEF): (a) to (d). The Dankuni Coal Complex Project originally scheduled to be [ Translation] commissioned in March, 1985 is now expected to be commissioned early next year. SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH: Sir, The original cost estimate of the project was sometimes there may be some shortcom- Rs 49.27 crores. The revised cost estimate ings but I will try my best to get this work assessed upto June, 1986 is about Rs. 118. completed within the scheduled time. crares. Ta ensure completion of the project by early next year, the following steps have SHRIMATI USHA THAKKAR: The hon. been taken:- Minister has mentioned about providing satellite facility to Andaman, Nicobar and i) Close monitoring of the project at other remote areas. I want to know whether various levels; feasibility to provide satellite facility in the border areas has also been examined. ii) Heavy Engineering Corporation, which is the turnkey contractor SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH: These far the project, has strengthened arrangements are made for both border its facilities for supervision of areas as well as other places. work at site.

iii) multiple shifts have been intro- WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS duced;and

[Eng/ish] iv) manpower has been aug- mented. Dankunl Coal Complex Criteria for Films Shown on T.V. *247. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to *248. SHRI H.B. PATlL: Will the Minis- atate: ter of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- I NG be pleased to state: (a) whether the scheduled fixed for dankuni Coal Complex are being extended (a) the number of historical and rang- 53 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Writt9n Answers 54 ious feature films out of the total number of tightening of laws relating to films shown on television during- 1988 till video fitms; date; Rs. 3 lakh grant/subsidy to all (b) wht3ther Government have fixed any Tamil films; criteria in this regard; and 500/0 tax exemption to small- (c) if so, the details of the procedure budget Tamil films; being followed in this regard? 30% entertainment tax cut for THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- films exhibited five years after TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- the date of issue of the censor FORMATION AND BROADCASTING certificate and 500/0 cut for those (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) : (a) The total num- exhibited after 10 years; ber of films telecast in the national network during 1988 (upto 20.1 1. 1988) is 123 in- five year moratorium on tax for cluding foreign feature films_ However, it is newly constructed cinema halls; not possible to stricUy classify these films as historical, religious etc, as in many films permission to charge 50 paise these ingrediants are present in one form of for AIC theatres and 25 paise for the other. non-Ale theatres over and above the ticket rates; (b) and (c). Do not arise. setting up of a film archives in the Crisis In Tamil Film Industry State

*251. SHRI P.R.S. VENKATESAN: Will reduction of tax on raw film from the Minister of INFORMATION AND 14.3. per cent to 5 per cent BROADCASTING be pleased to state: declaration of film production (a) whether Government are aware of and distribution as an industry; the serious crisis being faced by the Tamil Film Industry including video piracy; and multi-fold increase in the royalty paid by Doordarshan to films and (b) if so, the steps being taken to help song and dance sequences etc. the Tamil film industry to revive itserf? Cinema, (excluding certification of films THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- for public exhibition) is a State subject. Most TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- of thase demands are to be considered by FORMATION AND BROADCASTING the Government of Tamil Nadu. (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : (a) and (b). Re- ports have appeared in some sections of the The Government of India have been Press about the alleged crisis faced by the writing to all State GovernmenVUnion Terri- Tamil film industry, According to these re- tory Adm inistrations to tighten the admini- ports, the industry has presented a memo- stration of the anti-piracy measures, and, randum to the Government of Tamil Nadu. provide such relief in entertainment tax as The major demands included in the memo- may be considered feasible. The rates for randum are: telecast of feature films for regional Doord- 55 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 56 arshan Kendras were revised w.e.f. civil works also adversely affected the proj.. 1.4.1988. Similarly the rates for telecast of ect implementation schedule. song and dance sequences in the 'Chitra- haar' type of programmes in the National Following the initiatives taken by the Net-work and from Regional Kendras were Government of India for MIs. ABL's revival, also revised w.e.f. 1.1.1988. the company have now agreed to supply about 7500 MT of boiler material for the [ Translation] project during 1988-89. The MPEB have advised MIs. BHEL to go ahead with manu- Completion of Sanjay Gandhi Power facture of the TG equipment and auxiliaries. Project In Madhya Pradesh Keeping in view the manufacturing programme and the despatch schedule of the -252. SHRI. MOHAN LAL JHIKRAM : boilers and TG equipments, Unit-I is ex- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to pected to be commissioned in September. state: 1991 and Unit-II in March. 1992.

(a) when the work on the Sanjay Gandhi [English] Power Project in Madhya Pradesh was taken up and the stipulated time by which it Import of Gas Turbines by Damodar was to be completed; Valley Corporation

(b) whether there is any obstacle in *256. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA completion of this project; and SEKHARA MURTHY : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) if so. the steps taken to remove it? (a) whether the Damodar Valley Corpo- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ration (OVC) has been permitted to import DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- gas turbines from some American firms for TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): its power generation station at Maithon. (a) to (c). The Sanjay Gandhi thermal Power Bihar; Project envisaging installation of two units of 210 MW each was sanctioned in July, 1980. (b) if so, the details thereof including the Units I and II were originally envisaged to be cost of import so permitted; commissioned during the years 1985-86 and 1986-87 respectively. Work on the proj- (c) whether the DVC is unable to raise ect was taken up in January, 1984. the capacity utilisation at Maithon and the power generation rate is also fastly declin- The Madhya Pradesh Electricity Board ing; and (M .. P.E. 8)./ had placed a letter of intent on MI s. ABL for boiler supplies and on MIs. BHEL (d) if so. the reasons thereof and the for the turbine. Mis. ABL stopped supplies remedial steps taken or contemplated in this for the boiler in October, 1986 and applied regard? for liquidation in Bombay High Court, on account of financial constraints. thereby THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bringing the project activities to a virtual DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- standstill. Factors such as delays in land TRY OF ENERGY (SHAI KALPNATH RAI): acquisition and in finalisation of orders for (a) and (b). The Damodar Valley Corpora.. various auxiliaries equipmenVcontracts for tion had entered into an agreement with 57 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 58

MIs. General Electric, USA on 7.4.1987 for (b) to (d). The gross generation from the supply and erection of 3 x 30 MW Ga. Korba Super Thermal Power Station during Turbine Units, for beint intalled at Maithon, at the period April to October, 1988 was 4180 a cost of US $ 27,024,329 plus As. million units against the target of 3727 million 57,196.697. The foreign exchange compo- units. The Station has occasionally backed nant of the cost is being funded by a loan down, on account of the grid requirements from EXIM Bank. USA. The units are under during the off peak hours. Efforts are made construction and are likely to be commis- to utilize the available off peak power sioned by February-March. 1989. through export to the neighbouring Regions.

(c) No, Sir. The generation of power at Memorandum of Understanding maithon Hydel Power Station of Damodar between Union Carbide India Ltd. and Valley Corporation, with there units of 20 Oswsl Agro Mills Ltd MW each, has been normal and depends on the release of water from the reservoir. *260. SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (d) Does not arise. (a) whether Government have enquired Power Generation at Korba Super into the terms contained in the Memoran- Thermal Power Station dum of Understanding (MOU) between the Union Carbide India Ltd. and the Oswal Agro *257. DR. V. VENKATESH: Mills regarding the sale of CHEMCO at SHRI PARASRAM BHARD- Chembur, Bombay' WAJ: (b) if so, theprincipaitermsof MOU:and Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (c) the steps taken to protect the interest of the existing employees? (a) whether the National Thermal Power Corporation is facing crisis in the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRJ matter of selling power generated at its J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). Union Carbide Korba Super Thermal Power Station; India Ltd. have entered into a Memorandum of Understanding With Oswal Agro Mills Ltd. (b) whether, as a result thereof, the for the sale of their Chembur Unit. The broad National Thermal Power Corporation has to features of MOU are as follows:- scale down the generation programme at the plant; 1) A sum of Rs 58.5 crores will be paid towards the sale. (c) the reasons for which this situation has arisen; and 2) MIs. Oswal Agro Mills will absorb without interruption in service all (d) the steps proposed to remedy the the employees of the Undertak- situation? ing on terms not less favourable than those which they currently THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE enjoy and assume full responsi- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- bility for all employees benefits. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNA TH RAI): (a) No, Sir. 3) Prior to commencement of plant 59 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answ9fS 60

operations steps will be taken to (c) As per the latest suggestions made ensure adequacy and integrity of ONGe's Institute of Reservoir Studies, ac- safety systems for the operation tion has already been taken to close high of plant. GOA and high watar-cut wells. Besides this, full fledged water injection earlier envisaged The proposed transaction is sub- in 1989, has also been advanced by one ject to various statutory and other necessary year i.e. to July, 1988. approvals. While according approval interests of the employees as well as other rele- ONGe'. Contracts for Manufacture of vant interests will be kept in view. Chemicals

Decline In 011 Production at Bombay *262. SHRI S. M. GURADDI : High North SHRI S. B. SIDNAL :

-261. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the Will the Minister of PETROLEl JM AND Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: GAS be pleased to state: (a). whether the Oil and Natural Gas (a) whether the oil production by the Oil Commission has signed two contracts for and Natural Gas Commission in Bombay providing technological know-how for the High North Oitfied has declined recently: manufacture of two chemicals to the indigenous industry; (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) the remedial meCt~ures taken to check this trend and the results thereof; (c) to what extent this will reduce the imports? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- (b). The production of crude oil from Bombay RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI) : (a) and High North field during the last four years (b). ONGC has entered into preliminary was as under:- agreement with 16 indigenous manufacturers for giving them laboratory know-how for (Million tonnes) pilot scale development of two chemicals viz. Ferrochrome Ligno Sulphonate (FClS) 1984-85 5.85 and Resinated Lignite (IDEX).

1985-86 6.16 (c) This agreement is only for pilot scale development of the two chemicals. The ac- 1986-87 5.93 tual reduction of imports would be known only after commarcial production starts. 1987-88 5.92 Polyurethane Staple flbr. plant, Bongalgaon Annual production levels are decided keeping in view the reservoir conditions and *263. SHRI K. RAMAMlJRTHY :WUlthe related factors. Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 61 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) W,itt9n Answ9fs 62

GAS be pleasad to state: (b) to (d). The term 'alliance' used inthe newspaper report referred to in the Question (a) the steps being taken to solve the is vague. Two of the Directors of MIs. Reli- infrastructure problems confronting the ance Industries Ltd. have been appointed on polyurethane Staple Fibre Plant, Bongai- October 11,1988 ~s additional Directors on gaon, approved in August, 1984; and the Board of Oiredors of MIs. Larsen & Toubro Ltd. The co-option of additional Di- (b) the cost overrun of this plant overthe rectors by the Board does not, ipso-facto, originally estimated cost? require approval of the Central Government. No application has been received by the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Central Government from MIs. Reliance MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Industries Ltd for take-over of MIs. Larsen & RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) Toubro Ltd. under Section 23(4) of MRTP There are no infrastructural problems in the Act, 1 9Sf. The Industrial Credit & Invest- Staple Fibre Plant at Bongaigaon. ment Corporation of India Ltd, the lead financial institution of Reliance Industries Ltd, (b) In August 1972 BRPL's proposal to have also intimated that they are not aware set up a polyester fibre plant with a capacity of any direct investment in the shares of MI of 30,000 TPA and 10,550 TPA of orthe- s. Larsen & Toubro Ltd, by Mis. Reliance xylene at a total cost of Rs. 66.20 crores was Industries Ltd. approved. The present estimated cost of the polyster fibre plant is about Rs. 162.60 [ Translation] crores. Production of Crude 011 Alliance Between Reliance Industries and Larsen & Toubro *265. SHRI TEJA SINGH DARDI: SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- *264. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGA- MOOWALIA: LAM: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) whether the attention of Govern- ment has been invited to the news-item (a) whether the experts in oil industry captioned Reliance-LT alliance complete" have recently made a suggestion that pro- appearing in the 'Times of India' dated 9 duction of crude oil by indigenous methods October, 1988; can prove economical to the country;

(b) if so, the reaction of Government (b) if so, the facts thereof; thereon; (c) whether any action plan has been (c) whether this 'alliance' is permissible chalked out by Government in this regard; under the MRTP Act or such other laws; and and

(d) if not, what action is contemplated in (d) if so, the details thereof? this regard? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) 63 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 64

Government have not received any such (b) the names of those States which are suggestion. still lagging behind in this facility;

(b) to (d). Do not arise. (c) the steps being taken by Govern .. ment to open more post offices in those [English] States; and

Investigation by Chief Controller of (d) when this minimum facility will be Explosives provided to each corner of the country?

*266. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Wiflthe Minister of INDUSTRYbe pleased to MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI state: GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) the information is being collected and will be laid on the (a) whether the Chief Controller of Table of the House. Explosives has carried out any investigation as to whether the explosive manufacturers (a) State/Union Territories where the have despatched huge quantities of fire- average area served by a post offices is works and crackers to licencees much in significantly higher than the national excess of the prescribed limit during the last average of 1 post office for an area of about 12 months; and 23 sq. kms. are as follows:

(b) if so. the details thereof and if not the (c) Arunachal Pradesh , Jammu and reasons thereof? Kashmir, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Sikkim and Andaman & Nicobar Islands. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). Upon inves- There are proposals to open new post tigation into this matter by Chief Controller of offices in the States Union Territories men- Explosives, it was found at Sivakasi that tioned above to the following extent. during the last 12 months despatch of fire- works and crackers to licencees has not been in excess of the prescribed limits, at Arunachal Pradesh 32 anyone time. However, as permissible under the rules. the manufacturers des- Jammu & Kashmir 77 patch a number of consignments (each within the licensed capacity) to a licensee Meghalaya 31 over a period. Mizoram 26

Opening of Post Offices During 1988-89 Sikkim 27

Andaman & Nicobar Islands 17 2325. SHAI AMARSINH RATHAWA : Will th9 Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (d). A nation-wise postal service is already in existence since all habitations, (8) the number of new post offices urban and rural, are linked to the postal opened in 1988-89 so far. State-wise; network. 65 Wrinen Answers AGRAHAYANA8. 1910 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 66

Effect of Los.e. In State Electricity (b) The targets set for the remaining Boards on Rural Electrification and period of the Seventh Plan for rural eJectrifi- Production In Industries cation are expected to be achieved.

2326. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI Raw Material for Manufacturing : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Synthetic Fibre state: 2327. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will (a) whether the programme of rural the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to electrification and energisation of pumps for state: irrigation and the production in the electrical industries has been adversely affected due (a) the details of raw material being to the heavy losses suffered by ~h9 State used for manufacturing synthetic fibre; Electricity Boards; and (b) the names of the units producing (b) if so, the steps Government propose such raw materials and the quantity being to take to bridge the gap in the targets during produced in the country; the remaining period of the current Plan? (c) whether the raw material for manu- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE facturing synthetic fibre is being imported. if DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN IS- so, the quantity imported annually; and TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) (d) the steps being taken to increase the : (a) Losses incurred by the State Electricity production of the raw material in the country Boards have an adverse effect on their to reduce its import and also to check the capacity to generate internal resources to price rise? finance various schemes. During the first three years of the Seventh Five Year Plan, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI however, the targets of rural electrification J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) The main raw mate- programme, including energisation of rials used for the manufacture of various pumps for irrigation, have been exceeded. synthetic fibres are :-

Synthetic fibre Raw Material (s)

Polyester Staple fibre, DMT/PTA and MEG polyester filament yarn.

Nylon filament yarn Caprolactam

Acrylic fibre Acrylonitrile

(b) The names and production capaci- turing units are as follows:- ties of the existing raw materials manufac- 67 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 68

Name of the unit Production capaclty(Tonneslannum)

DMT IPel 30,000

BRPL 45,000

Bombay Dying 60,000

PTA Reliance Industries Ltd. 100.000

MEG IPCl 15,000

Noell 10.000

Caprelac-GSFC tam 20,000

Acryloni-IPCL 24,000 trile

DMT/PTA 40,000 MT

MEG 85,000 MT

Caprolactam 50,000 MT

Acrylonitrile Marginal.

(d) Additional capacities for the manufacture of the raw materials have been ap- (c) whether any decision has been proved and are in the process of being taken in this regard? established. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Paris Convention J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. The Ministry has called for the views of various 2328. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHER- Chambers/Organisations in 1985-86 on JEE : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be India joining the Paris Convention. There pleased to state: were different views expressed by them and they stressed that all the implications must (a) whether his Ministry had sought the be studied in depth before a final decision is views of various Chambers/Organisations in taken in the matter. FICel had suggested in 1985 on the question of India joining the May, 1986, that India should not sign the Paris Convention; Paris Convention at the present juncture, ASSOCHAM, who had in February, 1986 (b) if so, the views expressed by the expressed certain views regarding India various Chambers on the subject; and joining the Paris Convention, has now stated 69 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 70 that ASSOCHAM has undergone a major crores. Rs. 11. 10 crorss and Rs. 11.56 restructuring in 1987 and that the Managing crores respectively. Committee of the restructured ASSOCHAM has had no opportunity to review the con- (c) and (d). No. Sir. National Projects tents of the earlier not9. No decision has Construction Corporation. as a policy, en- been taken in this regard. courages small entrepreneurs.

Functioning of NPCC In Andhra Development In Renewable and Pradesh Decentrallsed Energy Technology

2329. SHRt T. BALA GOUD : Will the 2330. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether any policy guidelines have been laid down for the functioning of the (a) whether the Soviet Union has National Projects Construction Corporation evinced been interest in the development in (NPCC); India in renewable and decentralised form of energy technologies; (b) the details of work done by the NPCC in Andhra Pradesh during the last (b) if so, the detai Is of the projects on three years, year-wise; which Soviet Union is showing their keen interest; (c) whether a majority of such works have been cornered by large construction (c) whether the Soviet Team or Indian companies in the form of subcontracts and Team have visited the respective countries the same companies get recurring works to identify such projects; and from the NPCC; and (d) if so, the details thereof? (d) if so. the steps contemplated to bring about a more open form of work allotment to THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI encourage small entrepreneurs? VASA NT SATHE) : (a) to (d). Yes. Sir. As a result of discussion held during the visit of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Soviet Science & Technology delegation DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- to India last year. a Protocol was signed TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) between India (Deptt. of Non-Conventional : (a) The functioning of the National Projects Energy Sources) and Soviet side (Institute of Construction Corporation (NPCC) is regu- High Temperatures of the Soviet Academy lated by the guidelines and provisions incor- of Sciences) for implementing a programme porated in its memorandum and Articles of of Scientffic cooperation. This included joint Association and general guidelines issued feasibility studies on retrofitting Magneto by the Government from time to time for Hydro Dynamics (MHO) power systems in Public Enterprises. the existing power plants in India, exchange of information in advanced energy technologies relating to solar energy, biomass con- (b) The value of work done by National version & super conducting materia'. new Projects Construction Corporation in and efficient ways of coal utilisation through Andhra Pradesh during the last 3 years for gasification synthetic fuel production and 1985-86 to 1987-88 amounts to Rs. 18.12 exchange of visits of scientific personnel. 71 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 72

At the invitation of the USSR Academy to meet the demand in future? of Science, an Indian delegation led by the Secretary, Department of Non-Conven- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tional Energy Sources visited USSR from 8- DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- 13 October, 1988 for further discussions on TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI)- cooperation in research and development (a) Government is not considering any work in the field of MHO systems of power such proposal at this stage. generation and other areas of new and renewable sources of energy. On the conclu- (b) and (c). Do not arise. sion of the visit, a Protocol was signed for continuing the existing cooperation be- (d) As per the Thirteenth Electric Power tween the two countries in the field of Mag- Survey of India, the expected requirement of neto Hydro Dynamics MHO and further Power in 1994-95 is 384.8 billion units. expanding the area to applications of MHD for geological prospecting and other applica- Quality Testing of Cement tions of certain components in Metallurgy. The Protocol also includes development of 2332. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL:WiII direct coal fired comsusrtors/gasifiers, flu- the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to idized-bed gasifies for gasifying different state:: quality coals and development of pulses MHO generator and high temperatured air (a) whether the production of cement preheaters for application in steel plants for has increased by establishing more cement conservation of cooking coals. Among the plants in the country but the quality has been new areas in which the two countries have reduced; agreed to explore possibilities of cooperation is development of hydrogen as a fuel (b) whether Government have received particularly for transport sector, develop- any complaints in this respect, if so, the ment of electron beam systems and cata- details thereof; lysts for pollution control and photovoltaics R & 0 with particular attention to special semi- (c) whether any laboratory test is con- conducting materials. ducted before the product in sent in the market; Introduction of Integrated Energy Pricing System \0) If so, the details thereof; and

2331. SHRt V. TULSIRAM : Will the (e) if not, whether Government propose Minister ENERGY be pleased to state: to make necessary arrangements to test from time to time the quality of cement and its (a) whether Government are consider- strength? ing a proposal to introduce an integrated energy pricing system in the country; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (b) if so, the details thereof; OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M . ARUNACHALAM) : (a) and (c) the extent to which it will be benefi- (b). It is a fact that there has been a steady cial to the consumers and Government; and increase in the production of cement owing to commissioning of new cement plants and (d) the expected requirement of power modernisation/expansion of some of the 73 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 74 existing ones. However, there is no general (a). Does not arise complaint that with the increase in the production of cement by establishment of more Pending Applications for Tale- cement plants in the country, the quality has phone Connection In Orissa been reduced. The Bureau of Indian Stan- dards who have a prescribed procedure for 2333. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will the investigation of complaints of materials car- Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased rying standard mark have also reported that to state: complaints received by them in this item are very few. (a) the number of applications pending for telephone connections under different (c) and (d). In order to ensure manufac- categories in Orissa as on 21 st March, 1 SS8, ture and sale of quality cement, the Cement district-wise; (Quality Control) order 1982 was amended in the year 1983. As a result of this amend- (b) the number of telephone connec- ment. Standard Mark of the Bureau of Indian tions likely to be provided during this year Standards for cement become compulsory category-wise ; and w.e.f. 1.7.1983. Each manufacturer is required to follow a scheme of testing and (c) by when all the pending applications inspection by the BIS. Accordingly, all ce- are likely to be disposed of? ment manufacturers are required to obtain compulsorily licences from BIS to use the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE standard mark of the Bureau on cement MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI before marketing the product. The Bureau of GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The requisite Indian Standards, who have its net work of information is given in the Statement below: regional and branch offices spread over the country, take suitable action against· the (b) and (c). Information is being col- cement manufacturers who fail to meet the lected and will be laid on the table of the Lok BIS Standard. Sabha.

STATEMENT

Category wise Waiting list of Telephone in Different Districts of Orissa

SI.No. Name of the District. Waiting List as on 312.3. 1988 Under OYT Non-OYT Non-OYT Total Special General

1 2 3 4 5 6

1. Balasore 4 13 115 132

2. Baiangir 1 23 4 28

3. Cuttack 137 455 1931 2523

4. Dhenkanal 10 10 75 Writt9n Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 WriNen Answers 76

1 2 3 4 5 6

5. Ganjam 5 54 438 497

6. Kalahandi

7. Keonjhar 27 27

8. Koraput 4 1 147 152

9. Mayurbhanja 1 120 121

10. Phulbani 2 2

11. Puri 419 505 1629 2553

12. Sambalpur 143 143

13. Sundargarh 8 7 209 224

Survey of School T.V. Programmes provement in the attendance level of school children. TV has generated interest among 2334. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL : Will the students for watching Educational TV(ETV) Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- programmes. Despite difficulty in the com- CASTING be pleased to state: prehension. majority of the students termed the ETV programmes interesting. The (a) whether Government have con- teachers found the subjectsltopics of ETV ducted a survey on beneficiaries of school programmes useful. However, many opined programmes telecast for the benefit of that fewer ETV programmes had relevance school children; to the local environment, of primary school children. (b) if so. the number of schoo!s benefit- ing from telecast. State-wise: and The exact number of schools benetltlng with the ETV programmes is not known as (c) the opinion and suggestions re- the installation and maintenance of the TV ceived from schools and experts regarding sets in schools is primarily the responsibility school programmes on T. V? of the State Governments.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Rise in PrIce of Paper TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING 2335. DR. G. VIJA Y A RAMA RAO : Will (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to A study conducted by an outside research state: agency, commissioned by Doordarshan. in the sampled TV Schools of Uttar Pradesh (a) whether Government are aware of and Gujarat reveals that there is some im- the steep rise in prices of mill "A and "B' 77 Written Answ9rs AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 78

grade papers; once during the year 1988.

(b) whether prices have escalated sev- (d) It has been brought to the notice of eral times since 1950 and if so, the details of Government that the book publishing indus- prices as in 1950, 1960, 1970, 1987; try is facing some difficulties on account of the rise in prices of paper. Steps have been (c) whether three major paper mills taken by the Government to increase the have raised prices four times since 1 Octo- production of paper and paper board in the ber, 1987; and country. as a result of which the production has gone up substantially, leading to easy (d) whether this rise in prices has ad- availability in the market. versely affected the publishing trade? Performance of Thermal power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Station at Chandrapur (BIhar) DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- 2336. SHAI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) to (c). Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to In line with the general price trend in the state: country, and on account of increase in the cost of inputs, etc., the prices of paper have (a) whetherthe Damodar Valley Corpo- also increased from time to time. The index ration has set up a one-man Committee to numbers of wholesale prices in India for inquire into the deteriorating periormance of paper and paper products (base 1970-71 its biggest thermal power station at Chan- =:100) for the relevant years is as follows:- drapur in Bihar;

Year Index (b) the total fall in the Plant Load Factor (PLF) ; and 1950 (c) the steps proposed to be taken to 1960 81.8 overhaul the unit and tone up its working in the light of the above Inquiry Committee 1970 99.1 Report?

1980 258.9 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- 1987 400.7 TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) : (a) No. Sir. Some of the paper mills have reportedly (b) The Plant Load Factor (PLF) of the revised their ex-mill prices of different varie- Chandrapur Thermal Power Station during ties of paper and paper board more than the last three years was as follows: Year Annual Plant Load Factor Achisved (%)

1985-86 47.08

1986-87 40.70

1987·88 39.56 - ..... ,~------79 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 80

(c) the Chandrapura Units 4,5 and 6 are near these Public Call Offices; being overhauled. in a phased manner, in association with the suppliers, MIs. Bharat (b) if so, the details of such Public Call Heavy Eledrical Limited (BHEL) and Mis. Offices converted during the preceding five ACC Babcock Ltd. (ABL), to improve the years and the current financial year, year... performance of the Station. wise, district-wise • in Himachal Pradesh; and Opening of Long Distance Public Call Offices on R & G Terms in Himachal (c) whether any more long distance Pradesh public telephones are also likely to be converted into local public Call Offices during 2337. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- the remaining period of the Seventh Plan. ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- consequent upon the opening of the sanc- TION be pleased to state: tioned exchanges and if so. the details thereof, district-wise? (a) whether some long distance Public Call Offices opened on Rent and Guarantee THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE terms in Himachal Pradesh have since been MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI converted into local Public Call Offices and GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) Yes, Sir. the R & G terms waived on account of the (b) and (c) The information is given in opening of the telephone exchanges at or the Statement below:-

STATEMENT

(b) Public Call Offices converted into Local Public Call Offices during last 5 years.

District Hamirpur

1. Bhareri 1984-85

2. Bhiandi 1986-87

3. Busaran 1987-88

4. Mair 1987-88

5. Padlandhar 1988-89

6. Awaha Devi 1988-89

District Kangra

1. Salol 1985-86

2. Nichari 1987-88

3. Badra 1988-89 81 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 82

District Mandi

1. Kotli 1985-86

2. Pathat 1985-86

3. Jachh 1987-88

4. Janjeli II

5. Drubbal "

6. Langna "

7. Makriri

8. Gumma "

District Shimla

1. Mashnoo 1987-88

(c) Details of Long Distance Public tele- Public Call Offices dunng the remaining phones likely to be converted into local years of the Seventh Plan. _._------District of Hamirpur

1. Kashmir

District Chamba

1. Chaputra 2 Kihar

District Mandi

1. Kamand 2.Saoh

District Kullu

1. JagatSukh ------._------,-- Drilling Operat Ion by ONGC In Dakshar- Oil and Natural Gas Commission (ONGC) amam, Andhra Pradesh near Daksharamam in Andhra Pradesh?

2338. SHAI S. PALAKONDRAVUDU : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state the RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) Drill· d9tails of the drilling operations made by the ing of Draksharama-1 exploratory test well 83 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 84 situated at about 4 Km. South awest of village [English] Draksharama in the East Godavari District of Andhra Pradesh, was undertaken by ONGC Application of Section 630 of the with the prime objective of exploring hydro- Companies Act carbon prospects of Mesozoic sediments. On the basis of the tests carried out, the well 2340. DR. B.L. SHAtLESH : Will the was declared dry and abandoned and the rig Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the was releaSito next location in June 1986. reply given on 10th May, 1 9S8 to Unstarred Question No.1 0313 regarding application of [ Translation] Section 630 of the companies Act and state:

a) whether the requisite information Setting up of Oil Refinery in Sagar, has .inca been collected; Madhya Pradesh (b) if so, the details therof;

2339. SHRI NANDLAL CHOUDHARY : (c) i1' not, the reasons for delay; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM .f\. NO NATURAL GAS be pleased to state (d) the stage at which the matter stands at present? (a) the names of places where oil refineries have been set up during the last three THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI years; J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (d). While some information has been received in view of the (b) whether a survey has been con- legal opinion regarding the scope of section ducted for opening a refinery in Sagar district 630 of the Companies Act, fuller information of Madhya Pradesh. is being collected from the Registrars of Companies, Bombay and Delhi. (c) if so, the details thereof; and Prices of Polyester Staple Fibre and (d) the time by which the refinery is likely Polyester Filament Yarn to be set up in Sagar district? 2341. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK : THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Will the Ministerof INDUSTRY be pleased to MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- state: RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) No refinery has been set up during the last three (a) whether Government have asked years. the manufacturers of polyester staple fibre and polyester filament yarn to roll back the prices to a reasonable lever; (b) to (d). At present there is no proposal to set up a new refinery in Sagar District of (b) if so, whether any survey has been Madhya Pradesh. However, a working conducted in this regard; and Group constituted for formulation of Eighth Plan would make appropriate recommenda- (c) if so, the details thereof? tion for creation of new refining capacity, if any, and location thereof will be decided THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI accordingly. J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) Yes, Sir. 8S Written Answ9rs AGRAHAYANA 8. 1910 (SAKA) Writtsn Answsrs 86

(b) and (c). The manufacturers have Maharashtra; and contended that the prasent levels of polyester staple fibre and polyester filament yarn (d) if so, the details thereof? prices have resulted from sharp increase in cost of certain inputs. BICP has been asked THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to carry out a quick study in this regard. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAt) Energlsatlon of Pump Sets by : (a) A statement indicating districtwise Rural Electrification Corporation In number of pumpsets energised in Mahar- Maharashtra ashtra both under State Plan and under schemes financed by Rural electrification 2343. SHRI R. M. 8HOYE : Will the Corporation during 1985-86 to 1987-88 is Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: given below.

(a) the number of pump sets energised so far in each district of Maharashtra by the (b) Seventh Five Year Plan targets have Rural Electrification Corporation during the been fixed by the Planning Commission for last three years; Maharashtra state as a whole. The Seventh Plan envisages energisation of 2, 93, 000 (b)the numberof pumps proposed to be pumpsets in Maharashtra against which set up in each district of Maharashtra during about 3.4. lakhs pumpsets have been ener- the Seventh Plan and how far the target has gised from 1.4. 85 to 30. 9.8S. been achieved; (c) and (d). No survey has been con- (c) whether any survey has been conducted by Rural Electrification Corporation ducted in this regard in each district of in this regard. STATEMENT

Total Progress of Pumpsets Energisation During 1985-86 to 1987-88 (3 years) In Maharashtra State

SI.No. District Total No. of pumpsets energised during last 3 years.

1 2 3

1. Gr. Bombay

2. Thane 1905

3. Raigad 852

4. Ratnagiri 1236

5. Sindhudurg 1423

6. Nasik 23277 87 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Wrlnen Answers 88

1 2 3 7. Dhule 13115

8. JaJgaon 15040

9. Ahmednagar 40039

10. Pune 16629

11. Satara 8058

12. Sangli 12097

13 Solapur 31178

14. Kolhapur 6838

15. Aurangabad 18298

16. Jalana 10257

17. Parbhani 10503

18. Bhir 13660

19. Nanded 9538

20. Osmanabad 8777

21. Latur 8529

22. Buldhana 11342

23. Akala 7672

24. Amaravati 9680

25. Yavatmal 5524

26. Wardha 5388

27. Nagpur 7870

28. Bhandara 3859

29. Chandrapur 1520

30. Gadchiroli 334 Total 304451 89 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 90

Linking of Districts with Calcutta by the grievances of these TV viewers; and Microwave System (c) by which time TV reception will be 2344. SHRr PALAS BARMAN: Will the normalised in these districts? Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (a) the number of districts in West FORMATION AND BROADCASTING BengaJ not yet Linked with Calcutta by (SHAI H.K.L.BHAGAT) : (a) Complaints Microwave system; about the hazy reception of TV programmes in parts of this area have been received from (b) whether an Ultra-High Frequency time to time. Microwave system was recently shifted from Balurghat after commissioning; (b) and (c). A low power TV transmitter is at present functioning at Ratnagiri. The (c) if so, the reasons thereof; and coverage of the transmitter is somewhat limited due to local terrain conditions. The (d) whether there is any plan to re- High Power TV transmitter at Panaji pro- establish the same is at Balurghat in future? vides service to a substantial part of Sindhudurg district. However. certain areas THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE remain uncovered due to intervening dis- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI tance and terrain conditions. Provision of TV GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) Three distrid5 service to uncovered parts of Ratnagiri and have not yet been connected by Microwave Sindhudurg districts as also other similarly system. placed areas of the country would depend upon availability of resources in future plans (b) No, Sir. of TV expansion.

(d) Malda-Balurghat UHF scheme is 2346. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK : Will under execution and is scheduled for the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be commissioning by March, 1990. pleased to state:

TV Reception In Konkan Region of (a) the number of postal delivery vans Maharashtra available to the Goa Postal Division;

2345. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : (b) whether these vans are absolutely Will the Minister of INFORMATION inadequateforthe quantum of mail presently BROADCASTING be pleased to state: being handled there;

(a) whether there have been consistent (c) whether any demand for more vans complaints from the television viewers from has been placed by Goa Division; and Ratnagiri and Sindhudurg districts of Konkan region of Maharashtra about the (d) if so, the details thereof? hazy reception of television programmes' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, the steps proposed to redress MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 91 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 92

GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) Five postal the Minister of INDUSTRY..be pleased to delivery vans are available to the Goa Posta~ state: Division. (a) the names of large producers of (b) and (c) No, Sir. detergent washing powders in the country and their respective production; (d). Does not arise. (b) whether any show cause notice has I.LT Exchanges In Kerala been issued to any of them for their non- registration as- dominant industry under the 2347. SHRI T. BASHEER ; Will the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased Act; to state: (c) if so, the details thereof; and (a) whether the demand for new con- nedions and group dialling traffic is growing (d) if not, the reasons for not registering fast in Attingal, Varkala and Nadumangad them under the said Act as yet in view of their exchanges in Kerala; huge production and turnover?

(b) whether Government have received THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI any request to allot 2048 Port ILT exchanges J. VENGAL RAO) : (a). A Statement showing for Attingal, Varkala and Nedumangad in the names of large producers of detergent Trivandrum Secondary Switching area; and washing powders and their respective production in 1987 as per information with the (c) if so, the steps taken by Government Directorate General of Technical develop- in this regard? ment is given below. Besides. as per information furnished by MIs. Nirma Chemicals THE MINI$TER OF STATE IN THE Vlorks Pvt. Ltd., which is no~ borne on the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI register of the Directorate General of Tech- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) and (b) Yes, nical Development the company produced Sir. 80, 050 tonnes of synthetic detergent during 1987. (c) The capacity of Attingal and Varkala eXChanges proposed to be suitably ex- (b) No, Sir. panded during the current year. The demands for electronic exchanges has been (c) Does not arise. noted. Allotment will be made on availabilitv of equipment. (d) Relevant data are being collected Registration of Producers of Detergent with a view to examining whether any manu- washing Powder under MRTP Act facturer of synthetic detergents is registrable as per the provisions of section 20(b) read 2348. SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA: Will with section 2 (d) of the MRTP Act, 1969. 93 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 94-

STATEMENT

Names of large producers of detergent washing powders and their production in 1987.

51. No. Nan,e of the Unit Total production in 1987(MT)

1. MIs. Detergents India Ltd. 1938

2. MIs. Godrej Soaps Pvt. Ltd. 14018

3. MIs. Hindustan Lever Ltd. Jammu 43204

4. -do- Bombay 18233

5. -do- Calcutta 18604

6. -do- Chindwara 28380

7. M/s. Karnataka Soaps & Detergents Ltd. 2603

8. M/s. Kerala Detergent & Chern. Ltd. 942

9. MIs. Kusum Products Lta. 2218

10. MIs. Shaw Wallace & co. Ltd. 4782

11- MIs. Stephen Chemicals Ltd. 18631

12. MIs. Swadeshl Detergent 4923

13. MIs. Swastick Gears Ltd., Fatehpur 3692

14. MIs. Swastick J1ousenolo 6 Inaustrlal products Ltd, Thane 377

15. MIs. Tata Oil Mills Co. Ltd. Santhal Parganas 1874

16 MIs. Union Home Products Pvt. Ltd. 5888

17. MIs. Tata Oil Mills Co. Ltd, Bombay 8355

18. M/s. Whitco Ltd. Vadodara. 457

19. MIs. Daichi Karkaria, Hyderabad Nil

TOTAL 179119 95 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 96

Exploraltlon of 011 CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of PETRO- LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to 2349. SHRI DAULATSINHJIJADEJA: state: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a)'the number of petrol pumps opened in Kerala during 1988-89, so far; (a) the efforts made to increase exploration of oil in view of the expected depletion of (b) the number of petrol pumps with Bombay High before 2000 A.D., locations proposed to be opened this year; and (b) whether it is fact that no significant oil find has been registered since Bombay (c) the percentage of licences issued in High; and Kerala to handicapped, Scheduled Castes! Scheduled Tribes and other reserved cate- (c) the amount spend by the ONGC so gories? far on oil exploration? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI) : (a) RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUIT) : (a) In During 1988-89, the oil industry has so far order to increase reserve accr.etion. oil commissioned five retail outlet (Mis HSD) companies have increased their geoscienti- dealerships in Kerala; fic survey and exploratory drilling efforts in prospactive sedimentary basins. (b) while Letters of Intent have so far been issued, pertaining to the Annual Retail (b) No, Sir. The balance recoverable Marketing Plans upto 1987-88, by the oil reserves of crude oil in the country which companies for setting up of retail outlet were about 144 million tonnes in the begin- dealerships at 21 location in Kerala, the ning of 1975 have gone upto 638 million names of which are mentioned in the State- tonnes in the beginning of 1988. ment below, it is not possible to indicate the exact date by which these dealerships will be (c) Upto the end of March, 1988 ONGC commissioned, in view of the various steps have incurred a cumulative expenditure of involved; Rs 3506.51 crores, including depreciation on exploration. (c) Out of the above, 47.7% of the retail outlets have been alloted to candidates Petrol Pumps in Kerala belonging to 'SC' category, 14.3% to the 'Physically Handicapped' category and 2350. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- 4.8% to the 'Defence" category. STATEMENT

S.No. Location District

1 2 3

1. Kanhangad Cannanore

2. Vadasarikara Pathanamthitta 97 Written AnswslS AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 98

1 2 3

3. Agali Palghat

4. Kottanad Palghat

5. Pangode Trivandrum

6. Elathur Calicut

7. Sultan Battery Wynad

8. Calicut Calicut

9. M G Road Ernakulam

10. Kidangoor Kottayam

11. Chowghat Trichur

12. Vendiperiyar ldukki

13. Kadakkavur Trivandrum

14. Koovapadam Cochin

15. Thaliprambu Cannanore

16. Allathur Calicut

17. Panur Cannanore

18. Moothakunnam Ernakulam

19. Allore Trichur

20. Changarmkulam Trichur

21. Meenangudi Wynad

Technology upgradatlon schemes for (a) whether Government had formu- capHal goods Industry lated technology upgradation schemes aI- lowing some capital goods industries to 2351. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA import the latest machinery at concessional NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the rate of tariff; Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 99 Wrift9n Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answ9rs 100

(b) if so, the success achieved in this scale industries are assisted by Punjab regard; and State Small Industries and Export Corpora.. tion. The Punjab State Small Scale Indus- (c) if not, the reasons therefor? tries and Export Corporation registers small scale industrial undertakings already regis- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tered with the State Directorate of Industries DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- for a limited purpose of distribution of scarce OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS· raw materials like iron and steel. This regis- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) to (c). tration is done on the basis of capacity as- Yes. Sir. Government have introduced a sessment certificates issued by the Director- Technology Upgradation Scheme for se- ate of Industries. lected capital goods industries to be operated by Financial Institutions to induct (b) The Corporation provides the follow- latest technology. Under the scheme import ing facilities to the units registered with the of 120 items of capital equipment required State Directorate of Industries; for manufacture of specified power generation equipment, machine tools, ferrous cast- Plots/Sheds in various industrial ings, steel forging equipments, selected focal points. items of industrial machinery , have been allowed at a concessional import duty of Procurement and distribution of 350/0 ad-valorem. During 1987-88 (July· iron and steel and other scarce June). a total assistance of Rs. 22 crores raw materials like brass scrap was sanctioned by lOBI under the scheme. etc.

It runs training centres for carpet Criteria for registration of Small weaving. scale Industries with P.S.I.D.C It runs chains of emporia to pro- 2352. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will vide sales outlets to the products the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to of Small Scale Units of Punjab. state; Under its marketing assistance. (a) the details of criteria for registration it procures orders for SSI units of small scale industries with Punjab Small for marketing of their goods, Industries Development Corporation; and including exports. The Corpora- tion also runs Punjab Trade (b) the details of facilities being pro- Centre at Ludhiana to provide a vided by the Corporation to the industries display window for the products registered with it? of SSI units in Punjab.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Participates in National Trade DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Fairs to promote exports from OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Punjab. TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) PSIDC stands for Punjab State Industrial Reduction In customs duty on Development Corporation. No State/Central Pyrzlnamide and Chloramphenicol level Corporation knownas Punjab Small 2353. SHRI KESHAORAO PAROHI : Industries Development Corporation exists Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to in the State of Punjab. However. the small state: 101 Wrinen Answ9rs AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 102

(a) whether Government had received shown that Pt. Pant was the senior in the any representation for reduction of customs Kakori conspiracy Case; and duty at par being allowed on intermediates used in manufacture of Pyrazinamide and (b) if so, whether the authority of tn,~ Chloramphenicol; and facts has been verified?

(b) the steps taken by Government in THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN· this regard.? TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) : (a) No, Sir. J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (b). As per available information. representations were (b) Does not arise received in recent months in the case of Pyrazinamide only, on which appropriate SOlar Photovoltalc Powered comments were communicated to the con- Lighting System at Gays and Bodhgaya cerned Deptt. in the Government. in Bihar

Import OT Potassium Penicillin V 2356. SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM first Crysta I Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2354. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR : Will the Ministpr of INDUSTRY be pleased to (a) whether Government had sanc- state: tioned the installation of solar photovoltaic powered lighting system at Gaya and (a) whether his Ministry had recom- Bodhgaya ;n BIhar in January. 1985. mended for issue of any licence for import of Pot Penicillin V First Crystal in 1986 and (b) whether Government have received 1987 ; and aflY complaints in this regard during the last three years; and (b) if so. the details thereof; ? (c) if so, the details thereof and the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI action taken or proposed to be taken in the J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) During the years 1986 matter? and 1987 only one company namely, Mis. Jagsonpal PharmaceutIcals Limited have THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI been issued import licence for import of 40 VASANT SATHE) : (a) to (c). A request had MMU of Penicillin V for the manufacture of 6 been received from the Council for Renova- APA. tion of India Cultural Heritage for installation of solar photovoltaic powered lighting sys- TV Serial on PT. Govlnd Ballav tem at Gaya and Bodhgaya. The Depart- Pant ment of Non-Conventional Energy Sources had advised the State Government Renew- 2355. SHRI PARKASH V. PATIL : Will able Energy Agency (BREDA) to assess the the Minister of INFORMATION AND requirement of photovoltatic lighting sys- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: tems in consultation with the Council taking into account the status of electrification in (a) whether in the TV serial on Pt. Gaya & Bodhgaya and then send a proposal Govind Ballav Pant telecast recently it was for consideration. A reminder has also been 103 Wnttsn Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 104 received recently from the Council for Reno- (b) the details thereof? vation of Indian Cultural Heritage and it has bean taken up with BREDA. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· Licences I.sued for no Industry OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- DIstricts In Maharashtra TRY (SHRt M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b). Under the provisions of the Industries 2357. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: (Development & Regulation) Act. Sletters of Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to intent have been granted during the period state: 1985 to 1988 (upto September) for setting up of industries in Gadahiroli, the no industry (a) the numberof licences issued forthe district of Maharashtra. Details of these let.. No Industry Districts of Maharashtra so far~ ters of intent are as below:- by Union Government; and

51. No. Name of the Undertaking Item of Manufacture & Annual Capacity

1 2 3

1. Mis. Krishna Steel Black and Galvanised Steel Pipes and Tubes

Industries Ltd. including ERW Tubes :II 25,000 tonnes.

2. MIs. Nirlon Synthetic Polyester Industrial Yarn - 2,000 tennes. Ftbres & Chemicals Ltd.

3. Mr. Rajan Shivnath Blended & Synthetic Spun Yarn - 1500 Roters (equal to 7,500 Spindles)

4. Dr. R.S. Kagzi Cotton Yarn/man Made Fibre Yarn = 25,056 Spindles

5. Mr. R.C. 8agrodia Extensible Craft Paper l1li 24,000 tonnes

Execution of Hydro-Electric Projects In proposed to be added with the completion of Karnataka these hydro-electric projects?

2358. SHRI H.G. RAMULU: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (a) the number of hydro electric projeds TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI): executed in Kamataka during the currency (a) and (b). Following hydro-electric projects Plan period till date; and under execution in Karnataka State were envisaged to give benefits during the 7th (b) the total MWof power generated or Plan Period:- 105 Wn"tten Answers AGRAHAVANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 106

Name of the Project Capacity addition (MW) Exp9Cfed year of commissioning

1 2 3

Kalinadi 5t-1 (Supa) 2 x50. 100 Commissioned in 1985... 86

Varahi 2 x 115 + 2 x 4.5 = 239 1899-91

Ghatapr::lbha 2 x 16 = 32 1989-91

MaJlapur 2 x 4.5- 9 1990-91

Maddur 1 x 1.5- 1.5 1989-90

Total 381.5

[ Translation] modyog Bhavan is pending before the CSt

CBI cases against KVle offfcials (b) No separate record is maintained in the Ministry regarding the number of such 2359. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: complaints. However. 9 cases against the Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to officials of KVIC have been examined by state: CBI/CVC (Central Vigilance Commission) and this Ministry out of which three have (a) Whether cases against some of the already been closed and closure of two more senior officials of the Khadi Gramodyog cases has been suggested by this Ministry. Bhawan, New Delhi are being investigated Of the remaining four cases, KVIC has initi- by the C.B.I.; and ated disciplinary proceeding in respect of two, one case is pending in the court and one (b) if so, the number of officials of the is being investigated by the CSI. Khadi and Village Industries Commission against whome complaints have been re- [English] ceived during the last five years, the number of eases referred to C. B.1. and trhe progress in this regard? National Doordarshan Council

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- 2360. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TIL: Will the Ministerof INFORMATION AND TRY (SHAI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) A BROADCASTING be pleased to state complaint against the Manager, Khadi Gra- whether Government contemplate constitut- modyog Bhavan, New Delhi was received in ing a National Doordarshan Council as rec- the Ministry from eBI (Central Bureau of ommend by the Joshi Committee on Soft- Investigation) on 10.5.88. After getting the ware for Doordarshan? matter investigated the Ministry has proposed closure of the case. No other com- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- plaint against Senior Officers of Khadi Gra- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- 107 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answ9rs 108

FORMATION AND BROADCASTING tormulated. (SHRt H.K.L. BHAGAT): No, Sir. The recommendation of the Joshi Committee for con- Special Tulu Programmes by T.V. stituting a National Doordarshan Council Centre Bangalore has not been accepted by the Government. 2362. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND Perspective Plan for Production of Energy BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

2361. SHRI UTTAM HATHOD: Will the (a) whether a large number of Tulu Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: speaking people of Daxina Kannada district reside in Bangalore city; (a) the current plan target for the production of energy; (b) whether Bangalore Doordarshan is telecasting any programmes in Tulu; and (b) whether the target is likely to be aChieved; (c) if not, the steps proposed to telecast some special programmes in Tulu by 8an- (c) if not, the reasons therefor; galore Doordarshan?

(d) wnetner any perspective plan has THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- been prepared for the production 'of energy TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- during the Eighth Plan period and also to· FORMATION AND BROADCASTING wards the end of this century; and (SHRt H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) The Tulu speak-

ing population in Bangalore is about 0.410/0 (e) if so the details of the same? of the entire population of the city.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). Due coverage is given to DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN IS- developmental activities in Tulu speaking TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAJ): areas. However, Doordarshan Kendra, (a) The current plan target of capacity addi· Bangalore is not in a position to start a tion for power generation has been fixed as separate programme in Tufu due to limited 22245 MW. The total generation of power in resources and transmission time available the terminal year of the plan is expected to be with the Kendra at present. 275 billion units. Foreign Collaboration and Investments (b) Yes, Sir. 2363. SHRIMATI O.K. BHANDARI: Will (c) Does not arise. the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (d) and (e). According to the Power Plan (1985-2000) prepared by the Central Elec· (a) whether foreign collaboration and tricity Authority, a capacity addition of 48000 investment has increased during the year; MW during 8th Plan and 62000 MW during 9th Plan is envisaged. However, during the (b) if so. the details thereof, country- 8th Plan period. it is tentatively proposed to wise; commission a capacity addition of 38000 MW. The Ninth Plan proposals are yet to be (c) the total amount of investment by 1 09 W,inen Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) W,in8n Answers 110 each foreign country till date; posals were approved upto September, 1988. Out of these 242 proposals and 207 (d) whether Government propose to proposals during 1987 and upto September, reduce foreign collaboration and invest- 1988 respectively, involved foreign invest- m9nt; ment. The amounts of foreign investment involved are As. 10770.57 lakhs and Rs. (9) if so, the details thereof; and 16935.58 lakhs respectively for 1987 and upto September, 1988. (1) if not, the reasons therefor? (b) Statement I is given below. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (c) Statement II is given below. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHAI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes, (d) No, Sir. Sir. Government approved 853 foreign collaboration proposals in 1987 and 642 pro- (e) and (f). Does not arise.

i " STATEMENT I

Country-wise Break-up of Foreign Collaboration approvals Issued during the period January to September, 1988

51. No. Name of Country Financial Total

1 2 3 4

1. Australia 1 7

2. Austria 2 5

3. Belgium 2

4. Brazil 1 1

5. Bulgaria 1

6. Canada 3 8

7. Czekoslovakia 3

8. China 1

9. Denmark 3 8

10. Finland 1 7

11. F.R.G. 34 124 111 Written AnsWltrB ~OVEMBER 29, 1988 Wriff9n Answers 112

1 2 3 4

12. France 7 27

13. G.D.R. 1

14. Greece 1

15. Hongkong 1 5

16. Hungary 1 3

17. Ireland 1 1

18. Italy 13 37

19. Japan , 1 71

20. Korea (S) 1 4

21. LuxemJ:>erg 1 2

22. Mexico 1 1

23. Netherland 2 8

24. Norway 3 4

25. Singapore 5 10

26. Spain 1

27. Sweden 2 7

28. Switzerland 5 31

29. Taiwan 2 8

30. U.K. 28 99

31. U.S.A. 54 124

32. U.S.S.R. 1 6

33. Yugoslavia 1 1

34. N.R.I. 21 23 Total 207 642 113 Written Answers AG~AHAYANA 8.1910 (SAKA) Written AnsW9rs 114

STA TEMENT II

Country-wise Break-up of Foreign Investment approved during January to September, 1988

51. No. Name of Country January - September, '88 fRs. lakhs)

1 2 3

1. Australia 2.00

2. Austria 163.90

3. Brazil 40.00

4. Canada 16.00

5. Denmark 164.68

6. F.R.G. 2534.90

7. Finland 40.00

8. France 685.97

9. Hongkong 2.10

10. Hungary 10.40

11. Ireland 10.00

12. haly 662.05

13 Japan 747.18

14. Korea (S) 7.50

15. Luxemberg 40.00

16. Mexico 200.00

17. Netherlands 104.50

18. Norway 283.90

19. Singapore 462.60

20. Spain '60.00 115 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 116

1 2 3

21. Sweden 44.00

22. Switzerland 127.23

24. U.K. 1138.78

25. U.S.A. 7748.77

26. U.S.S.R. 4.00

27. Yugoslavia 9.00

28. t-J.R.I. 1484.90

Total: 16935.58

Supply of Cooking Gas to Villages adequate potential for viable marketir.g of LPG. Subject to the above, barring a few 2364. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: villages which are contiguous to and on the Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND periphery of cityltowns, where LPG is mar- NATURAL GAS be pleased to stelte: keted, there is no proposal for the present to introduce LPG facility in villages as such. (a) whether any study has been made on the possibility of supplying cooking gas in [ Translation] the villages; Complaints Regarding Wrong Billing of (b) if so, the details thereof; Telephones in Patna

(c) the year by whIch cooking gas is 2365. SHRI KRISHAN PRATAP Ilk81Y to be supplied in all the villages in the SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- country; and TIONS be pleased to state:

(d) the steps taken or proposed in this (a) whether there IS no Improvement regard? with regard to complaints of wrong billing of telephones by Patna Telephones; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- (b) if so, the reaction of Government RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) to (d). thereon and the steps taken or proposed to Keeping in view 1he overall availability of remove these complaints? LPG, the Oil Industry is taking up, in a phased manner, locations all over the coun- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE try with population of around 20,OO() and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt above (as per 1981 census) and which offer GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The 117 Written Answers AGAAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 118 information is being collected and will be laid (a) whether the T. V. viewers in Halgad on the Table of the House. district of Maharashtra except the areas near Bombay do not get clear reception on [English] their T. V. sets and they have to incur additional expenditure on installation of boosters T. V. Relay Centre at NandurDar to get unburied and clear picture; and

2366. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA (b) if so, the steps taken by Government GAVIT: Will the Minister of INFORMATION in this regard? AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- (a) whether any representations have TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- been received by Union Government for the FORMATION AND BROADCASTING installation of a T.V. Retay Centre to extend (SHAI H.K.l. BHAGAT): (a) Parts of Rai- TV service to Nandurbar which is predomi- garh district do not receive satisfactory serv- nantly inhabited by tribals; ice from the TV transmitter at Bombay due to intervening distance and hilly terrain. (b) if so, the details thereof and the action taken thereon; (b) The existing 0.6 KW TV transmitter at Puna is under replacement by a 10 KW (c) the time by which a T.V. Relay high power transmitter. The TV service in Centre is likeJy to be installed at Nandurbar Raigarh district is expected to improve after and provision of funds will be made; and the 10 KW transmitter is commissioned into service some time during 1989. (d) if not, the reasons therefor? Air Station at Jalsalmer THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN· TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- 2368. SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN: FORMATION AND BROADCASTING Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) to (d). Repre- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: sentations have been received from time to time, from various quarters, for providing TV (a) whether a radio station was sanc- service to NandurhcH There IS at present no tioned for the border district of Jaisalmer in lp~rov~d schen18 under the VII Plan to set Rajasthan long back but the construction up a TV transmitter at Nandurbar. Extension work has not yet started; of TV service to the remaining uncovered parts of the country including Nandurbarcan (b) if so, the reasons for delay; and be carried out in a phased manner depending upon the future availability of resources (c) the time by which the construction of for this purpose. the radio station would be started and completed?

Improvement In T.V. Reception In THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Maharashtra TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING 2367. SHRI D.B. PATIL: Will the Min- (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. ister of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- ING be pleased to state: (b) An alternate site for the transmitter 119 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 120 had to be selected as the previous site taken THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- over in August 1987 was not approved by the TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- Standing Advisory Committee for Fre- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING quency Allocations (SACFA) for installing (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). 100 M Antenna mast. The new site has been Whereas there has not been any failure of finalised and requisition placed with State the nigh power TV transmitter as such, cer- Government. It has not been handed overto tain parts of Visakhapatnam town, earlier All India Radio so far. covered by the low power transmitter, do not rAr eive satisfactory TV service as these lie in (c) The studio and staff quarters will tht) 'shadow zone' caused by intervening now be constructed on the previous sIte as hili:..... the preliminary estimate has been sanctioned. The completion of the Radio Station (c) The position is envisaged to be will depend upon the early acquisition of site rectified by installation of a transposer to- for the transmitter. wards the end of the current financial year (1988-89). Failure of HPT Tower at Simhachalam Covering Vlsakhapatnam (d) This equipment has not so far been installed anywhere in the country. 2369. SHRI BHATTAM SRIRAMA MURTY: Will the Ministerof INFORMATION (e) and (f). No, Sir. It was necessary to AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: remove the low power transmitter function- Ing at Vlsakhapatnam on establishment of (a) whether probe was made into the the high power transmitter as both transmit- failure of HPT tower at Simhachalam soon ters operating on the same channel would after its commissioning to cover lurge parts have mutually interfered. of Visakhapatnam and several other areas; [ Translation] (b) the areas which were earlier covered by the lPT Visakhapatnam but came Special Mining Projects In Maharashtra under shadow zone after commissioning of the HPT; 2370. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (c) wh&ther the position has now been state: rectified by installing a transposer; (a) the special mining projects pro- (d) whether such a transposer was posed to be started in Chanderpur, Nagpur similarly installed at any other place in the and Yavatmal districts of Maharashtra to country and if so, when; increase production during the remaining period of the Seventh Plan; and (e) whether lPT was allowed to function alongwith HPTat any other place as per (b) the names of mining projects, out of the requirements of the situation; and them where geological survey has been conducted and the time by which survey of (f) if so, the reasons for which the LPT the remaining mining projects is likely to be was dismantled at Visakhapatnam when the completed? trial run of the HPT had revealed several defects? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 121 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA8, 1910 (SAKA) Written AnsW8rs 122

OEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- 200 MW sets and the estimated cost of two TRY OF ENERGY (SHRt C.K. JAFFAR 500 MW. in Indian and foreign exchange? SHARIEF): (a) and (b). The mal mining projects proposed to be started ·in Chan- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE drapur, Nagpur and Yavatmal districts of DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Maharashtra to increase production during TRY OF ENERGY (SHRt KAlPNAlli RAf): the remaining period of Seventh Five Year (a) Yes, Sir. Plan are Saoner Opencast. Niljai Opencast, Gauri Opencast and Durgapur Opencast (b) Global tenders were invited for the (Expansion). The geological reports of these procurement of the turbine generator (TG) projects were prepared earlier and these sets of the two 500 MW units and orders were sanc,1ioned during April-October. were placed on Mis. Bharat Heavy Electri- 1987. cals Ltd. For the procurement of steam generator (SG) sets, the orders were placed There other projects viz. Wirur Under- on MIs. Ansaldo against the Italian financial ground, Chincholi Underground and Subai assistance available for this purpose. Underground for which geological surveys had been completed earlier were sanctioned (c) The total contract value for the TGI during July, 1987.January, 1988. Produc- SG sets of the three 200 MW units is about tion from these three projects will commence Rs. 123 crores. The total contract value for only in the Eighth Plan. the TGISG sets, including the electrostatic precipitator, of the two 500 MW units is about Five other projects for which surveys Rs. 265 crores which includes a foreign have been completed may be started during exchange component of OM 255.14 million the remaining period of the Seventh Ptan but and US $ 26.79 million. production from them will be realised during the Eighth Plan. Per Capita Investment in Public Sector Industrial Enterprises [English] 2372. SHRI DIGVUAY SINH: Win the Global Tenders for Farakka Power Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Station (a) the per capita investment in public 2371. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will sector industrial enterprises; state-wise; and the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) whether Government propose to (a) whether global tenders were invited reduce variations in the investment from one for the three 200 MW sets for the Farakka State to another? power station; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (b) whether similar tenders were invited J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). A Statement for the two 500 MW sets required there and is given below. Central investment are made if not, the reasons therefore and the name of taking Into consideration of the tacno-eco- suppliers; and nomic viability of projects whil. keeping in view the need for overall balanced regional (c) the comparative costs of the three development. 123 Written Answ.rs NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 124 STATEMENT

Pre capita inv8stmentin public sector industrial enterprises.

51. No. Union of States! Per capita investment in Union Territory terms of gross block as on 31.3.1987 (Rupees)

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 1266

2. Assam 1914

3. Bihar 998

4. Gujarat 942

5. Himachal Pradesh 1245

6. Haryana 506

7. Jammu & Kashmir 197

8. Karnataka 465

9. ~8rala 423

10. Madhya Pradesh 1644

11. Maharashtra 1739

12. Manipur 974

13. Maghalaya N.A.

14. Nagaland 1011

15. Orissa 1765

16. Punjab 385

17. Rajasthan 229

18. Sikkim N.A.

19. Tamil Nadu 625 125 Writtsn Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Wriffen Answers 126

1 2 3

20. Tripura 787

21. Uttar Pradesh 353

22. West Bengal 831

23. Chandigarh N.A.

24. Andaman & Nicobar 526

25. Delhi 3112

26. Goa 326

27. Pondicherry 141

28. Others & Unallocated 42

Kelkar Committee on Newsprint Policy (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) Ves, Sir, as a long term measure. 2373. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (b) This recommendation relates to BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Step No. II on Long Term Newsprint Alloca- tion Policy to be formulated during the Eighth (a) whether the Kelkar Committee on Five Year Plan. long term newsprint allocation policy has recommended decentralisation of the import (c) Yes, Sir. of newsprint and future under OGL; (d) A statement containing the recom- (b) whether the above recommenda- mendations of the Kelkar Committee is tion has been accepted by Government; given below.

(c) whether the Committee has made STATEMENT any other recommendations for promoting production of indigenous newsprint and Recommendations of the Kelkar Commit- prevention of black-marketing; and tee

(d) if so, brief particulars of the major It is in the long-term interest of counry's recommendations of the committee? media industry to move away from a highly regulatory policy regime which is character- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- ised by quantitative allocations, individual TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN .. retention pricing and import restrictions, FORMATION AND BROADCASTING towards a more liberalised regime based on 127 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 128 tariffs and market determined price. The ies, assuming 4 standard pages. Committee is convinced that import substitu- Therefore, the interests of the tion strategy based on bagasse route is small papers will not be affected. efficient in terms of domestic resource cost. This may also help curb the The tariff based policy would ensure a move phenomenon of non-lifting of towards this direction thus reducing depend- domestic newsprint. ....ce on imports. The Committee, therefore, recommends a two-steps policy regime, the ii) Any consumption of reject news- first being in the nature of transition and the print by the newspapers over second being totally control-free tariff based and above their newsprint allo- regime. cation quota may be considered for excise duty exemption. This STEP-I. may help the newsprint mills to sell reject newsprint to parties Continue the existing policy for two not covered under RNI alloca- more years with following modifications: tions.

i) The Committee is of the view iii) New Newspapers or existing that the indigenously produced newspapers applying for news- newsprint should be consumed print for the first time, may be fully and that imports should be given an initial quota of news- treated only as a supplementary print, for 6 months only (instead measure. Therefore, the existing of the existing one year) subject limit of 300 MT of imported news- to the ceiling provided in the print supplied to small and me- policy for 1986-88. Of this initial dium newspapers at .nil or re- quota, maximum of 5 MT may be duced duty be scaled down to 50 from imported newsprint, while MT. This SOMT of duty free im- the rest shall be met from indige- ports shall be extended to all nous sources only. newspapers irrespective of the size of circulation. * Any newspa- iv) Glaze newsprint imports should per requiring over and above be taken out of the allocatory 50MT. shall be subject to the regime. Imports of glaz9 news- indigenous and imported ratio. print should be permitted on In recommending this measure, OGL with 550/0 tariff. ** the Committee has taken note of the fact that 50MT would cover v} The following norms may be all small newspapers whose adopted for wastage compensa- average circulation is 5500 cop- tion:-

*The member representing All India Small & Medium Newspaper Association-Federation did not agree with this recommendation and desired the duty-free import limit to be raised to 100MT. The representative from ILNA desired the limit to be raised to 200MT.

**Members representing IlNA and INS (in their dissent note) did not agree with this tariff rate. Mr. Gupta of ILNA felt that if would hurt small and medium magazines printed on glazed newsprint. He desired duty-free import of glazed newsprint. 129 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA8.1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 130

All newspapers 7 per cent

Magazines with multi-colour additional 210/0 printing requirement

Stitched magazines for trimming additional 30/0

vi) The norms for unsold copies and copies distributed free may be revised as under:-

Circulation (whichever is Jess) (Sold copies)

Upto 25,000 copies 3% or 1 000 copies Above 25,000 &

Upto 75,000 copies 5% or 2500 copies

Above 75,000 Copies 5% or 5000 copies

vii) Newspapers be reclassified as:

Category Circulation per publishing day

Small Upto 25,000 copies

Medium Above 25,000 & upto 75,000 copies

Big Above 75,000 copies

viii) Once the entitlement are de- all newspaper with a tariff rate of cided by the R N I, backlog in 40% with decentralisation. * Tar- servicing of newsprint be iff may be calibrated with vari- avoided. ation in CfF price every year. This policy framework should STEP II: coincide with the first year of the Eighth Plan. The Long-Term Policy Framework ji) Small and medium newspapers i) The Long-Term Policy should be to be aHowed to import newsprint to move away from the admini- under ANI certification upto a stered princing and quantitative maximum. of 50 MT tariff free allocation policy regime by intro- through STC. This policy of 50 ducing an OGL import facility to MT duty free supply to small and

*The members representing INS desired this tariff rate to be 20% instead of 400/0. 131 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 132

medium newspapers would a) Total exemption from sugar imply partial continuation of allo- levy for five years from the catory system. If Govt. can find date of commencement of some other mechan ism by pulp production. which small newspapers requIr- ing upto 50 MT are met either b) Investment decisions for 3 from imports or from domestic bagasse based plants of mills (at tariff adjusted elF 1,00,000 tonne capacity to prices) without having to operate be taken in the next two the partial a"ocatory mecha- years and implemented by nism, th9 Committee would rec- mid 8th Plan. Possible loca- ommend this option. Hence. the tions in Up, Punjab and Committee recommends that Maharashtra. the Govt. may review the working of proposed partial allocatory vii) Broad banding policy is recom- system after 2 years. If the mended to perm it paper mills to domestic and CIF prir,e differen- diversity into newsprint produc- tial falls below 25% the partial tion on the \condition that they allocation may be discarded. use bagasse _route pulp atleast % upto 75 •

iii) Glazed newsprint to continue on \ OGL with 55% tariff in order to viii) Continua~on of ex):;ise duty ex- ensure import substi~ution. emption on newsptint. When- ever newsprint 'is su~tituted by iv) To promote more efficient use of white printing paper. a mecha- domestic resource use for nev.'s- nism should be devised to allow print production, all future ex- excise exemption on par with pansion should be based on newsprint. renewable resource, ensuring to the domestic producers an ef- ix) A package of incentives to be fective rate of protection not given to those newsprint produc- % exceeding 40 • Consequently, Ing units who use bagasse pulp t~e current duty exemption on to the extent of 70%. These in- imported pulp would have to be centives would have to be in the reviewed. nature of import duty exemption on consumables and mainte- v) Individual retention price for nance spares. For CG, test & domestic units to be abolished. control instrumentation equip- Market-related pricing e.g. tariff ment the import duty should not adjusted cif price should deter- exceed 30% for all newsprint minethe marketpricefordomes- units. tic newsprint. x) The Ministry of 1&8 should ap- vi) A separate package of incen- proach ICAR to explore the po- tives should simultaneously be tential of kenaf (Hibicus Canna- announced for sugar mills to bis) as an alternate source of invest in bagasse-based pulp fibre for production of pulp and mills: these are paper products. The earlier pilot 133 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA} Written Answers 134

project undertaken by ICAR and (c) whether the Corporation has agreed CPPRI, Dehradun in 1984 to extend credit to a number of power proj- should be reviewed in order to ects in 1988-89; and provide the feedback for deter- mining the potential of this after- Cd) if so, the number and location nate source. thereof, State-wise?

Financing Power Projects by Power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Finane. Corporation DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAJ): 2374. OR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: Will (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The Statewise details tha Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: are indicated in Statement I below.

(a) whether the Power Finance Corpo- ration is finaocing some power projects in (c) and (d). During 1988-89. the Corpo- the country; ration has sanctioned 61 proposals upto November. 1988. The Stats-wise details are (b) if so, the detaits thereof, State-wise; given in Statement II below.

STATEM ENT-I

No. of proposals sanctioned by power finance corporation statewise (UptoNovember 15.1988)

S/.No. Name of the State/ No. of Loan Loan amount Organisation proposals in sanctioned the State/ (Rs. crores) Organisation

1 2 3 4

1. Haryana 6 49.50

2. Rajasthan 4 22.99

3. Punjab 4 8.35

4. Uttar Pradesh 11 107.03

5. Bihar 4 12.27

6. Orissa 4 28.77

7. West Bengal 5 21.48

8. D.V.C. 3 11.47

9. Gujarat 5 16.07 135 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 136

1 2 3 4

10. Madhya Pradesh 7 31.08

11. Maharashtra 7 58.92

12. Andhra Pradesh 8 83.81

13. Karnataka 2 4.59

14. Tamil Nadu 4 28.03

74 484.36

STATEMENT-II

Statewise position of proposals sanctioned by PFC during the year 1988-89 (Uptp 15.11.88)

51. No. Name of the State/ No. of Loan Loan Organisation proposals sanctioned (Rs. in crores)

1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 6 68.65

2. Bihar 4 12.27

3. Gujarat 5 16.07

4. Haryana 4 36.39

5. Karnataka 1 1.22

6. Madhya Pradesh 6 27.59

7. Maharashtra 6 43.92

8. Orissa 3 18.30

9. Punjab 4 8.35

10. Rajasthan 2 7.91

11. Tamil Nadu 3 13.03

12. Uttar Pradesh 9 90.71

13. West Bengal 5 21.48

Total 61 377.36 137 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8.1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 138

Manufacture of ILT Exchanges (b) whether the State Government has started utilising these letters of intent. and 2375. SHRIMATf KISHORI SINHA: Will the Minister of COMMUN ICATIONS be (c) if so, the present position in regard pltlased to state: 10 utilising both these letters of intent?

(a) whether the Indian Telephone In- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI dustries propose to manufacture the IL T J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Letters of Intent have exchanges at its main unit;n in Bangalore been issued to MIs Pradeshiya Industrial & rather than the subsidiary units in Palghat Investment Corporation of Uttar Pradesh and Rae-Bareilly; Limited (PICUP), a State owned undertaking of Govt. of U.P. on 3.3.86for setting upof an (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and aromatic complex at Saleempur in District Aligarh, U.P. and on 14.3.86 for the manu- (c) whether manufacturing of IL T ex- facture of photosensitised goods in the dis- changes will be supplemented by manufac- trict Almora in U.P. respectively. ture of other types of rural telephone exchanges? (b) and (c). The Letter of Intent issued to MIs PICUP for setting up of an aromatic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE complex at Saleempur has been treated as MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI lapsed. As regards the Letter of Intent issued GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. Indian to MIs PICUP for the manufacture of pho- Telephone Industries has plans to manufac- tosensitised goods they have signed a joint- ture ILT Exchanges at Palghat Unit to its full sector partnership with Mis JK Synthetics installed capacity. Ltd. The LOI is valid till 14.3.89 and they are taking steps for acquisition of plot, and set- (b) Does not arise. ting up other infrastructural facilities.

(c) No, Sir. However, Bangalore Unit of [English] Indian Telephone Industries is manufacturing rural telephone exchanges of C-DOT Erection of Branch Line from Main Gas design. Trunk Pipeline in Maharashtra

2377. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: [ Trans/ation] Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Petrochemical Complex and Colour X- Ray Film Industry In Almora District, (a) whether Maharashtra Government u.P. has urged Union Government to re-examine the possibility of erecting a branch line taking 2376. SHAI HARISH RAWAT: Will the off from the main gas trunk pipeline to supply Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: gas to fertilizer plants in Vidarbha and also for power generation in the State; and (a) when the letters of intent were issued to Uttar Pradesh Government for (b) if so, full facts thereof and the setting up petro-chemical industry in Sa- reaction of Union Government thereto? leempur and the colour X-Ray film industry in MajkhaJi in Almora district; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 139 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 140

MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- 7 ADCA in the ratio of 70(imported) : 30 RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUn): (a) and (indigenous). Since MIs. IOPL are also (b). The Government of Maharashtra had manufacturing 6 APA they are also entitled suggested that a branch line be constructed for import of Penicillin G in the above men- to supply gas to fertilizer plants in Vidarbha tioned ratio. During the year 1988 MIs IOPl and other areas in Maharashtra State. have been granted import licencQ for import of 33.410 MMU of Penicillin G. This was considered by Government and not found feasible. Development of Postal and Telegraph Services In Mldnapore, West Bengal Import of Potassium Penicillin (G) by I.D.P.L. 2379. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: WilKbe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased. 2378. SHRI VIJOY KUMAR YADAV: to state: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (a) the progress with regard to the development of PostaJ and Telegraph serv- (a) the quantity of Potassium Penicillin ices in Midnapore district of West Bengal (G) for which the import licence was given to made during 1985, 1986 and 1987; and I.O.P.L. during this year and on that basis the import was permitted; (c) the extents to which the faciJities of STO and Post Off ices have been extended? (b) whether the imported Potassium Penicillin (G) has been sold by the IDPL to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE other consumers; MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The informa- (c) if so, the names of parties to whom tion IS furnished in the statement given be- the imported stock has been sold. the price low. charged and the basis thereof; and (b) Midnapore, Haldia and Kharagpur (d) the reaction of Government have already been provided with STU facility thereto? Provision of STD facility is Planned for Contai during 1989-90. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (d). As per the The total number of post offices in Mid- existing policy import of Penicillin G is al- napur dIstrict which stood at 1334 on 1-4- lowed to each manufacturer of 6 APAI 1985 increased to 1358 as on 31-3-1988. 141 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Writt.n Answers 142

STATEMENT

The progress with regard to the development of Postal and Telegraph services in Midnapore district.

Postal Service

New Post offices were opened I.' Midnapore district to the extent indicated below:

Year Sub post offices Branch post offices

1985-86 1

1986-87

1987-88 1 23

Telegraph Services

(i) Number of stations at which tele- Equity held by US Gillette Company graph facility was provided on Phonooom basis: 2380. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN SINHA: WiJ1 the Miruster of Industry be 1985 6 pleased to state:

1986 6 (a) whether Government have allowed the U.S. Gillette Company to increase its 1987 8 equip in an Indian Company;

(ii) Number of stations at which tele- (b) if so, the details thereof: graph f acmty was provided on Morse (c) the range of products to be brought in Indian market by this Company and its 1985 1 impact on domestic market; and

1986 1 (d) the foreign exchange outgo as a result of these transaction? 1987 3 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (iii) linkages with Store & Forward DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Telegraph (SFT) network: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and 1986-87 : Kharagpur connected to (b). Details of pending foreign collaboration SFT Network through Cal- are n01 reveled till Government take a final cutta. decision. Written Answers 144 143 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988

ration Limited has granted extension to a (c) and (d). No formal proposal has number of contractors both from India and been received so far from the Indian Shaving abroad for its various projects under Products Limited for bringing in a new range the of products manufactured by MIs Gillette, second mine expansion programme; U.S.A. (b) whether no substantial progress Arrear. of Telephone Bills has been achieved so far;

2381. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minis- (c) if so, the details thereof; and ter of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (d) the percentage of progress made by the contractors and the percentage of de- (a) the arrears of telephone bills as on faults in their respective time schedules, etc. September 30, 1988 towards each of the Ex- Contractor-wise? MP, former Minister, Ex-Governors, and also the political parties which are recogni- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sed by the Election Commission at the DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- Central/State levels; and TRY OF ENERGY (SHAI C.K. JAFFAR SHARIEF): (a) to (d). Significant progress (b) since when these arrears are due? has been achieved in the implementation of the second mine expansion project of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Neyveli Lignite Corporation. Over 26,000 MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI tonnes of material for erection of Specialised GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). The Mining Equipment has been received at site information is being collected and will be laid and of this over 14,000 tonnes have gone on the Table of the House. into erection. The Consortium of suppliers of the Specialised Mining Equipment has re- Extension to contractors by N8~'Vell quested for some extension of time for Llgn Ite Corporat ion completing supplies and commissioning the equipment mainly on grounds of difficulty in -£a2. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: Will procuring special steels indiqenously. the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: The progress achieved so far by the (a) whether the Neyveli Lignite Corpo- various suppliers/contractors is as below:- Specialised Firm Progress Mining Equipment

1 2 3

2400 mm/2000 mm MIs Elecon Engineering Supplies have almost Conveyors Co. Ltd., V. V. Nagar been completed. Erection is to be done by NLC.

3 Nos. of M/s Krupp Industrietechnik, Supply and erection 700 Litre West Germany/MIs. Buckau as per schedule. 145 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 146

1 2 3

Bucket Wheel Wolf India Ltd., Puna. " Excavator.

3 Nos. of MIs O&K, West Germanyl Major portion of 1400 litre MIs Southern Structurals scheduled supplies has Bucket Wheel Ltd., Madras. been received at site Excavator. and has gone into erection.

20,000 tonne MIs MAN-GHH, West Germanyl -do- per hour MIs WMI Cranes Ltd., 1 Spreaders. Bombay.

011 Exploration by Soviet Experts Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 2383. DR. G.S. RAJHANS. SHRIMATI MADHUREE (a) whether a new LPG hotting plant SINGH: has been set up in Ba~galor. recently;

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM & (b) if so, the detaHs thereof; and NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) what is the capacity of the plant? (a) whether the Soviet experts have taken up fresh areas for all exploration in the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE country; MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) No. (b) if so, the details of the places where Sir; Soviet experts intend to explore oil; and (b) and (c). Do not arjse in view of (a) (c) the details of the places where above. Soviet tve presently workina? [Trans/ation] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU· exploration In Madhya Pradesh RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) to (c). Intensive integrated exploration with Soviet 2385. SHRI KAMMODJLAL JATAV: assistance is being carried out in mutually Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND agreed areas of Cambay (N). Cauvery and NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: West Bengal basins. No other areas for exploration by Soviet experts have been (a) whether a survey has been con- taken up in the country. ducted to find out oil in Madhya Pradesh during the last three year; LPG Bottling Plant In Sang_lor. (b) if so, the names of the ptaces and 2384. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: Will the the extent of the success achieved in this 147 Written Answer' NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written AnswBrs 148 regard; Will the Mir.ister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) whether survey Cn Kuwari riv9r near Bamsoli village in More~ qistrict of Cham- (a) whether Government have takan a bal Division has been co"'d~yted; and decision to open a more Post Offices in the country; and (d) H not, the reasons therdfore and the time by which the surv~y is likely to be (b) if so; the number of new Post Offices conducted? prcoosed to be opened in maharashtra, di~ rief-wise/ THE MINISTER OF ST1\TI= OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM ~ND NATU- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUff): (a) Yes, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Sir. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir.

(b):- Geological Surveys: (b) The number of new post offices proposed to be opened in Maharashtra dur- Northern slope of Satpura, south and ing the current year is 236. The district-wise southwest of Panchmarhi-Chikatbari, break-up is being ascertained and will be laid Anoopur-Shahdol-Bharatpur, Southwest of on the Table of the House. Punji, North of Shahdol, Panna-Jabera- Bhopal. Gwalior. [ Trans/ation]

Gravity Magnetic Surveys: Remuneration to News Readers In Doordarshan Mu nda-Oeo-Kh apa, Panch m arh i- Hardu, Motur-Matkuli. South of Seonia- 2387. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR Malwa-Bordha-Harina, Gotitoria-Khapa- TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of INFORMA- Chhindi. Harrai-Mungwani, Makrai-Dar- TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to yaganj. state:

S9ismic Surveys: (a) whetherthe news readers in Doord- arshan Division are not being paid equal Piparia to south of Parasia, Jabera- remuneration; and Bonda-Sangrampura-Singhpur Bhajia. (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the Based on the results of geoscientific number of Hindi and English news readers surveys carried out, four locations, namely and the remuneration being paid to them? Anhoni-1, Tamia-1. Dewari-1 and Jabera-1 have been released for drilling. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- (c) Yes, Sir. TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (d) Does not arise. FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (~HRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). Ves, (EnglishJ Sir. The remuneration varies. The primary consideration for fixing the remuneration of Opening of Post Offlces In Maharashtra the Casual News Readers is their performance and experience. The details relating to 2386. SHRI ANOOPCHAND SHAH: the number of Hindi and English news read- 141 Wriften Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 150 ers and the remuneration being paid to them are given in the statement below. STATEMENT

Fee of National English News Rsaders

Name 7.50 A.M. (Rs.) 9.30 P.M. (Rs.)

1 2 3 4

1. Mrs. Neethi Ravindran 200/- 4001-

2. Km. Rini Simon 200/- 400/-

3. Mrs. Geetanjali Aiyer 200/- 400/-

4. Mrs. Kornal G.B. Singh 200/- 4001-

5. Mrs. Usha Albuqucquee 200/- 400/-

6. Sh. Tejeshwar Singh 2001- 400/-

7. Sh. Udai Bir Saran Oas 200/- 400/-

8. Sh. Preet K.S. Bedi 200/- 400/-

9. Sh. Sunit Tandon 200/- 400/-

10. Sh. Pankaj Mohan 200/- 400/-

11. Mrs. Sheila Chaman 150/- 400/- (Only booked for Morning Bulletins) 12. Mrs. Presti Haksar 150/-

13. Sh. Shashi Kumar 200/- 400/-

Fee of National Hindi News Readers

Name 7.20 A.M. 8.40 P.M.

1 2 3

1. Shri J.V. Raman 2001- 400/-

2. Mrs. Manjari Joshi 200/- 400/-

3. Mrs. Sarla Maheshwari 200/- 400/- 151 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 152

1 2 3 4

4. Mrs. Avinash Kaur 2001- 400/-

5. Shri Shammi Narang 2001- 400/-

6. Shri Ved Prakash 200/- 4001-

7. Mrs. Rama Pandey 150/- (Only booked for Moring bulletin).

Fee for Regional Bulletin & Parliament News

1 2 3

Names Fee

1. Sh. Umesh Joshi 150/-

2. Sh. Ashish Sinha 1501-

3. Sh. Vineet Ajuja 150/-

4. Sh. Chaman Gupta 175/-

5. Sh. Jaswin Jassi 150/-

6. Mrs_ Gazala Amin 1501-

7. Sh. Anil Kalia 150/-

8. Sh. I.P. Singh 150/-

9. Mrs. Kamal Nasim 1501- 10. Sh. Ranjit Sahani 150,'- 11. Mrs. Kavar; Mukherjee- 150/- 12. Km. Shalini Mehta 150/- 13. Mr. Manna Bahadur 150/- 14. Smt. Shashi Dhingra 150/- 15. She Raghavendra Madhav 150/- 16. She Shaheen Naqvi 150/- 153 Writt9n Answers AGRAHAYANA 8. 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 154

2 3

17. Mrs. Jayanti 150/-

18. Sh. Raghav Bahl 1501-

19. K. Sangeeta Verma 1501-

20. Mrs. Avera Chavery 1501-

21. Mrs. Mrinalini J. Singh 1501-

22. Km. Neelam Mahajan Singh 150/-

[English) feasible, in order to meet the growing de- m~nd; Pending Application for LPG Connec- tion In Cochln City (c) At present nearly 5000 persons are un the waiting list for LPG connections in 2388. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the Cochin city; Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (d) Kelease of new LPG connections is (..one by the oil industry all over the country, (a) whetherthere is a shortage of cook- including in eochin city, in a phased manner ing gas in the country; under its annual programme for enrollment of customers, subject to auqmentation ir (b) if so, the reasons therefore; availability of LPG.

(c) the number of applications pending Wind Power Generation at Tamil Nadu in Cochin city; and Agriculture University, Colmbatore

(d) the time by which these applicants 2389. SHRI P.H. KUMARAMANGA- are likelv to be provided with LPG connec- LAM: Will the Minister of ENERGY be tions? pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether Government are aware of MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- the programme and progress of work in wind RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTI): (a) and power at Tamil Nadu Agriculture University, (b). Backlogs in supply of LPG arise occa- (TNAU), Coimbatore; Sionally in parts of the country owing to factors like movement. IR problems, sea- (b) if so, the details of machines under sonal factors and operational constraints. test and progress made; and However, continuous efforts are being made to maximise indigenous production of LPG (c) whether Government propose to and also import the produd to the extent encourage this indigenous enterprise? 155 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written AnswsfS 156

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (c) The factors like incomplete applica- VASANT SATHE): (8) Yes, Sir. tions received from the application and non- availability of a vacancy cause delay in soma (b) Performancetestson a locally made cases. However, efforts are made to clear

500 W wind battery charger, supplied by such cases on I TOP PRIORITY'. basis. Tamil Nadu Energy Development Agency (TEOA) is in progress. DEPARTMENT OF TELECOM

(c) Government is giving suitable en- (a) to (c). The requisite information is couragement to indigenous development of not available and has been called for from wind power units, depending on technical the field units. merit. [English] [ Trans/ation] Microwave Link Between Trlvandrum Employment on Compassionate TV Centra and Callcut Grounds In Departments of Posts and Telecommunications 2391. SHRI VAKKOM PU- RUSHOTHAMAN: Will the Minister of IN- 2390. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI: Will the FORMATION & BROADCASTING be Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased pleased to state: to state: (a) whether the microwave link be- (a) whether any cases of providing tween Trivandrum TV centre and Calicut employment to the dependents of the em- was installed recently; and ployees who died in harness of Delhi and Uttar Pradesh circles of the Departments of (b) if so, the percentage of population in Posts and Telecommunications are pending Kerala covered at present with the m icro- in his Ministry for the last three years; wave link with Malayalam programmes telecast from Trivandrum? (b) if so, the details thereof, state-wise, circle wise; and THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (c) the reasons for delay in providing FORMATION AND BROADCASTING employment to them and the time by which (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) Yes, sir. the pending cases would be disposed of?

(b) Malayalam programmes produced THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE at Doordarshan Kendra, Trivandrum ara MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI now available to about 700/0 population pres- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): DEPARTMENT OF POSTS. ently Covered by TV service in the State.

(a) Yes, Sir. Blo-Gas Plant

2392. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY: (b) Delhi -15 SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: u.p. -70 WHI the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 157 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA8, 1910 (SAKA\ Written Answers 158

(a) the number of bio-gas plants in· in Statements·1 and II below. stalled and the financial assistanc6 given by Union Government during 1984-88 in the (b) A total of over 78,750 family type country, State·wise, year-wise; biogas plants are reported to have been set up in the State of Andhra Pradesh during the (b) the number of biogas plants in period 1981-82 to 1988-89 (upto 31 st Au- Andhra Pradesh as on 31 st August, 1988; gust, 1988) under the National Project for Siogas Development. (c) whether there is any proposal to give financial assistance to Andhra Pradesh (c) and (d). The National Project for Government for the development of bio-gas Blogas Development is an on-going scheme plants and for research work; and and a sum of Rs. 65.8 lakhs has already been released to the State nodal agency in (d) if so. the details thereof and the advance for 1988-89. With regard to re- financial assistance provided, If any. or pro- search programme a sum of As. 2.25 lakhs posed? was sanctioned to the State nodal agency during 1987-86 for setting up a few experi- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (~HRI mental plants based on alternative feed- VASANT SATHE): (a) The information in stocks for which work is reported to be in respect of family type biogas plants is given progress 159 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 160

STATEMENT-I State-wise and Year-wise Number of Family Type Biogas Plants Set up During 1984-85 to 1988-89 (Upto 30th September, 1988) under National Project for Biogas Development

S.No. StatelUTslAgency 1984-85 1985-86 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89 (ue.to See.tember 19882 1. Andhra Pradesh 13525 19120 19181 9800 1673 2. Assam 681 457 1245 2107 226 3. Bihar 5634 9744 9642 8350 1151 4. Gujarat 9451 13563 14534 11657 3S61 5. Haryana 2986 2266 2499 1580 250 6. Himachal Pradesh 2510 2650 2850 3201 1809 7. Jammu & Kashmir 44 155 132 132 24 8. Karnataka 9113 8361 11324 94570 1734 9. Kerala 4236 3937 3424 2937 1235 10. Madhya Pradesh 4405 5668 4539 2976 180 11. Maharashtra 52546 60344 59553 60170 14213 12. Manipur 4 16 8 13. MeghaJaya 52 6 2 14. Nagaland 9 3 16 5 15. Orissa 2914 5429 4434 6094 4081 16. Punjab 1943 1807 2478 1409 418 17. Rajasthan 8073 539B 4371 3840 1161 18. Sikkim 25 55 21 19. Tamil Nadu 18340 19514 22079 23128 3395 20. Tripura 21. Uttar Pradesh 2769B 28096 31495 19198 3951 22. West Bengal 3007 3268 6515 7184 2246 23. Andaman & Nicobar - 10 40 19 3 24. Chandigarh 6 5 5 5 25. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 11 15 14 1 26. Delhi 135 80 12 100 17 27. Goa Daman & Diu 189 156 143 110 44 28. Mizoram 115 152 90 21 29. Pondicherr~ 95 65 30 19 4 TOTAL 172601 190222 200833 173659 41729

163 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 164

Floating of Subsidiary Company by Installation of New Pumps Sets In Marutl Udyog Limited States

2393. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- 2394. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: WARA RAO: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to be pleased to state: state the number of new pump sets installed in each State in 1987-88 under the scheme (a) whether the Maruti Udyog Limiteo financed by the Rural Electrification Corpo- propose to float a subsidiary company with ration? equity participation from the public; and

(b) if so, the details of the proposal and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the reasons therefor? DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- THY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI A statement indicating Statewise number of J. VENGAL RAO): (a) No, Sir. pumpsets energised during 1987-88 under the scheme financed by Rural Electrification (b) Does not arise. Corporation IS given below.

STATEMENT

Statewise detaIls of pUI11psets energIsed dunng 1987-88

51. No. State Pumpset energisation

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 117135

2. Arunachal Pradesh

3. Assam 119

4. Bihar 8256

5. Gujarat 0293

6. Haryana 26813

7. H.P. 269 8. J&K 114

9. Karnataka 46865 10. Kerala 13304 165 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

1 2 3

11. M.P. 58115

12. Maharashtra 105000

13. Manipur

14. MeghalayC::l

15. Mizoram

16. Nagaland 10

17. Orissa 2895

18. Punjab 22247

19. Rajasthan 12280

20. Sikkim

21. Tamil Nadu 61164

22. Tripura 68

23. U.P. 20590

24. West Bengal 7558

Total: 543095

Facility In Air Vadodara, GUJarat (c) whether the AIR Station, Vadodara lacks basic facilities for recording of songs, 2395. SHRI RANJITSINGH bhajans and light classical music; 3AEKWAD: Will the Minister of INFORMA- TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to (d) if so, the reasons thereof; and state: (e) the steps proposed to be taken to \a) the number of sanctioned posts of make avarlable the necessary facilities in- technical, non-technical artistes and other cluding man and machinery at AIR, Va- cadres for All India Radio, Vadodara, dodara? GUjarat. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN· (b) the number of posts tying vacant in TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN· each category; FORMATION AND BROADCASTING 167 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 168

(SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). The tioned/vacant posts in different categories information regarding number of sanc· for All India Radio, Vadodara is given below:-

No. of posts sanctioned No. of posts vacant

i) Technical 23 6

ii) Non-Technical 65 15

iii) Staff Artists/Artists 20 7

Filling up of vacant posts is a continuous Super Thermal Power Station at Talcher work and is in progress. 2397. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: (c) No, Sir. Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (d) and (e) Do not arise. (a) whether it was decided to launch the Sat8111te Leasing Time for Telecommu- Talcher Super Thermal Power Station dur- nication Network ing November, 1988;

2396. SHRIMATI MADHUREE SINGH: (b) whether the project has been ap- Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be proved by the Public Investment Board; pleased to state: (c) if so, the latest estimated cost and (a) the leasing time on satellite, India capacity of the project; propose to buy for accelerated telecommunication network in the next two years; and (d) the steps taken to expedite the launching of that project; and (b) the time by which the domestic capability/availability is likely to become (e) whether any time limit has been fixed adequate to meet the needs of the telecom- for its completion and if so, the details munication system, thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Two 72 MHz TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): bandwidth transponders are on long lease (a) The Government has approved, in No- from International Telecommunication Sat- vember, 1988. the proposal forthe setting up ellite Organisation. Negotiations are under of the Talcher Super Thermal Power Project way to lease more capacity to augment the State-I by the National Thermal Power Cor- existing available space segment. poration.

(b) Domestic capability/availability will (b) Yes, Sir. become adequate by 1991-92 time-frame with the operationalisation of INSAT-II se- (c) The latest estimated cost Of the ries of satellites. projed is Rs. 1480.85 crores. including Rs. 169 Written Answers AGRAHAVANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 170

76.81 crores forthe associated transmission for telephone connections in Mehboob system. St:,ga-I of the project would have a Nagar district in Andhra Pradesh for tha last capacity of 1000 MW (two units of 500 MW three years; each). (b) the number of telephone connec- (d) and (8). The National thermal Power tions provided in the district on medical Corporation have initiated preparatory ac- grounds and to businessmen, press corre- tion for the acquisition of land and the devel- spondents, medical practitioners, etc. dur- opment of basic infrastructural facilities. The ing the last three years; and first unit of the project is envisaged to be commissioned in a period of five years from (c) when the remaining application ara the date of award of the main plant equip- expected to be disposed of? ment and the second unit one year thereafter. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI Pending Applications for Telephone GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The number of Connections In Mehboob Nagar applications pending for telephone connec- IAndhra Pradesh) tions in Mehboob Nagar district in Andhra Pradesh for the last three years as on 2398. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the 31.10.1988 are 301. Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) The number of telephone ~nnec tions provided in the district as on (a) the number of applications pending 31.10.1988 are given as below:

1. On medical ground 4

2. To Press Corespondents 4

3. To medical practitioners 34

4. To businessmen and others 898

(c) The remaining applications are plants in pUblic and private sectors in expected to be disposed off during 1988-89 M;=tdhya Pradesh; and and 1989-90 progressively. (b) the numberof ancillary industries set [ Translation] up there so far for maintenance, packing and supply of various types of engineering and Ancillary Industrle. to Cement Plants In non-engineering items to these plants? Madhya Pradesh

2399. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- state: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The (8) the number of large and mini cement required information is given below:- ., Written Answers 172 171 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 . . d ct . the State of Madhya Prad9sh Number of existing cement plants m the organise 59 or In

Public sector Private sector

Large 3 10

Mini 11

Total...... 24

(b) Cement Industry basically is a proc- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ess industry which does not require support MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI from ancillary units for the supply of the main GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The numberof inputs like limestone. gypsum. coal etc. With Postal buildings and staff quarters under regard to the requirements of spares, construction at present in Orissa is 14 and 88 adequate capacity is available within the respectively. country. Where a proprietary component is not available and a specific proposal for (b) The progress made so far in respect import of the same is received by the Gov- ot the above projects is generally satisfac- ernment, it is considered on merits in accor- tory. dance with the provisions of the Import Pol- icy. Cement is packed in jute, synthetic (c) All the 14 building projects ana dB woven or union bags. Adequate capacity for staff quarters under construction at present manufacturing these types of bags in vari- are expected to be completed by end of the ous parts of the country is available and no Seventh Five-Year Plan period. complaint about their shortage has been received from the cement factories. Seminar on Media Organised by SAARC [English] 2401. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. Construction of Postal Buildings and BHOSALE: Will the Minister of INFORMA· Staff Quarters in Orissa liON AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 2400. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (a) whether a seminar on medls report. pleased to state: ing in economic perspectives was organised by members of SAARC·, (a) the number of postal bUildings and staff quarters under construction in Orissa; (b) if so, what were the objectives of this seminar; (b) the progress made so far; and

(c) how many of them are expected to (c) whether Government propose to be completed by the end of the Seventh take some action on the suggestions made Plan? at the seminar·, 173 Writtsn Answ9rs AGRAHAYANA8. 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 174

ture and implications of eco- (d) if so, the details thereof; and nomic trends; and

(e) if not, the reasons therefor? (iv) to promote regional understanding and cooperation. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (c) No suggestions have been received. FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) A six-day (d) and (.e) Do not ar;Stf. Seminar on Economic Perspectives of SAARC was organised by the Press Institute Approval to Schemes sent by Orissa of Bangladesh in collaboration with the Sin- State Electricity Board gapore-based (Regional Media Organisa- tion), Asian Mass Communir.;:ttion Research 2402. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Will the and Information Centre. Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state:

(b) The principal objective of the semi- (a) whether Orissa State Electricity nar was to educate journalists from SAARC Board (OSEB) has sent proposals for a nations about the econom ies of their respec- number of schemes to the Central Electricity tive countries and those of the neighbours. Authority for approval on priority basis; Its other objectives are: {b) if so, the details thereof and amount (I) to upgrade the professional involved; and skills of the participants; (c) the present stagA of the proposals? (it) to deepen their understanding of the economic environment the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE interplay of various economic DEPARTMENTOF POWER INTHE MINIS- factors and economic inter-de- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): pendence of nations; (a) to (c). The following schemes of Orissa Government is presently under examination (iii) to familiarise them with the na- inCEA. 175 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 176

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T.V. Coverage to Ministers age; and

2403. SHRI. M. RAGHUMA REDDY: (d) if so, the reasons therefor? SHRI MANIK REDDY: SHRI C. MADHAV REDDY: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Will the Minister of INFORMATION TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : (a) and (b). The (a) the coverage given on Hyderabad non-visualNisual coverage (duration in sec- T.V. Centre to the Chief Minister of Andhra onds) whic;h have been given by Doord- Pradesh and Telugu Desam Party M.Ps arshan Kendra, Hyderabad to the Prime during the last three years; Minister, Central Ministers, Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister, Congress M.Ps and Talugu (b) the coverage given by that T.V. Desam Party M.Ps for the last 3 years is Centre to the Prime Minister Union Ministers given in the Statement below: and Congress Members of Parliament during the same period; (c) No, Sir.

(c) whether there is much gap in cover- (d) Does not arise. 181 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA8. 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 182 ~- ~ 0 ,..._II) M II) ~ 0 CD ex> J ~ co "'lOt .S "...... ,- ~ ~ «) 0 se II) co 0 II) 0 .§ ~ N 0 -V .... (\.I ..q- to ~ f! 0 ...- 0') I./) C\J ::l ._: C- ~ cuQ) ~ (Y)

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[ Translation] appearing in "Jansatta' dated the 21 August, 1989; Petrol Pumps In East Oelhl (b) if so, whether Governmer,~ propose 2404. PROF. CHANDRA BHANU DEVI to issue necessary instructions to the Delhi : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Ele, tric Supply Undertaking for making NATURAL GAS be pleased to state~ unir ,tarrupted supply of electricity to the cold storages; and (a) the total number of petrol pumps functioning at present in East Delhi along· (c~ ~ not, the reasons therefor? with the number of those which are under construction; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) the time by which the petrol pump of DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Bharat Petroleum being constructed in Pree1 TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAJ) Vihar is likely to start functioning; and : (a) Yes, Sir.

(c) the number of more petrol pumps (b) According to DESU, the overall proposed to be opened in East Delhi? position of power supply in the Lawrence Road area including the cold storages is by THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and large satisfactory. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRl BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) As on (c) Does not arise. in view of answer to October 1, 1988 there were 19 Retail Outlet b' above. (Petrol/Diesel) dealerships in operation in East Delhi; Issue of Commemorative Stamp of ~hrl 8arkat-Ullah Bhopall (b) BPCL's retail outlet at Preet Vihar was commissioned on 24.10.88; 2406. SHRI K.N. PRADHAN : Will the Minister of COMMUN ICATIONS bo pleased (c) Upto the Annual Retail Marketing to state: Plan 1987-88, the oil companies have planned to set up 3 more Retail Outlets in (a) the criteria for issuing commemora- East Delhi. Besides, three more Retail Out- tive stamps; and lets exclusively for 2/3 wheelers are also proposed 10 be set up in East Delhi at suit- (b) whether Government propose to able sites to be allotted by the D.D.A. issue a com memorativ9 stamp in memory of late Shri Barkat-Ullah Bhopali? Supply of Electricity to Cold Storages In Deihl THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THl MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 2405. SHRIMATI MANORAMA SINGH GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) The proposals : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to covered by the guidelines, framed for re- state: lease of commemorative special stamps, are placed before the Philatelic Advisory (a) whether the attention of Govern- Committee which advises the Government ment has been drawn to the news report regarding issue of such stamps and other captioned "EK Crore Ke Aalu Sad Jayenge: relating matters for obtaining its views. 185 Writtsn Answers AGRAHAYANA8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 186

(b) This proposal will be placed before Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- the Committee for consideration, at its next CASTING be pleased to state: meeting. (a) whether the number of films se- [English] lected for the Indian Panorama this year is fess than those selected for last year; Manufacture of Integrated Local and Trunk Exchanges in I. TJ. Unit, (b) if so, the reasons thereof? Palghat (c) whether there are complaints that 2407. SHRI V. S. VIJAYARAGHAVAN: certain deserving films have been left out; Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (d) if so, the details thereof; and

(a) whether the proposal for manufac- (e) the critena for selecting films for turing integrated local and trunk exchanges Indian Panorama? in the ITI unit at Palghat has been finally cleared; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): (a) and (b). In terms (c) when it is likely to be cleared? of the Indian Panorama Regulations, a maximum of 21 feature films can be se- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE lected. This year 16 films have been se- MINISTRY OF COMMuNICATIONS (SHRI lected as compart3d to 18 years. The reason GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) No, Sir. for reduction is the quality of entries as adjudged by the All India Selection Panel. (b) and (c). There has been an Increase in the capital cost of the expansion project over the cost estimates approved earlier and (c) Yes, Sir. The representations re- this is required to be cleared by the Govern- ceived were regarding non-selection of cer- ment. As soon as cleared, the expansion tain films by the Regional Panels and ap- project will be implemented. peals not having been entertained by the All India Selection Panel against the decisions Selection of Films for Indian Panorama of the Regional Panels.

2408. SHRJ K. MOHANDAS : Will the (d~ The details are as under :-

AI/India Selection Panel (Non-Selection)

/) Rugmioi (Malayalam)

il) Main Zinda Hoon (Hindi)

Regional Selection Pans/s: (Non-entertainment of appeals)

Eastern Region

I) Gili Gili Gay (8engali) 187 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29.1988 Written Answers 188

II) Tunda Baaida (Oriya)

Weastem Region

I) Uttejna (Hindi)

il) Guru Dakshina (Hindi)

Southern Region

I) Kaadina Benki (Kannada)

ill Aranyakam (Malayalam)

U/) Ore Thooval Pakshikal (Malayalam)

iv) Seesa (Malayalam)

v) Yathrayude Anthyam (Malayalam)

The Selection Panels are constituted by the (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : (a) Chief Minister, Government and comprise eminent film Andhra Pradesh recently sent a memoran- makers, critics etc. These panels are free to dum requesting, inter-alia, the expeditious decide their own work procedure. Accord- implementation of the proposed TV Studio ingly, the All India Panel decided not to Centres at Hyderabad and Vijayawada entertain appeals against the decision of the besides establishment of another such Regional Panels as according to them this centre at Cuddapah. would have defeated the purpose of the scrutiny by the Regional Panels. (b) Whereas a full-fledged TV Studio Centre equipped for operation in colour (in (e) The criteria for selection of films are replacement of the existing interim set up) the cinematic. thematic and aesthetic excel- has been commissioned into service at lence as adjudged by the Selection Panels. Hyderabad on the 27th November, 1988, action to set up the Studio Centre at Vijaya- T.V. Studios in Andhra Pradesh wada has also been initiated. There is, however, no scheme under the Seventh 2409. SHRI SRIHARI RAO : Will the Plan to set up a TV Studio Centre at Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- Cuddapah. CASTING be pleased to state: T.V. Relay Centres In GuJarat (a) whether Andhra Pradesh Govern- ment had sent any proposals for setting up of 2410. SHAI AMARSINH RATHAWA : full fledged T.V. studios in that State; and Wi" the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (b) if so, the action taken thereon? (a) the number of TV Relay Centres SO THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- far set up in Gujarat; TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (b) whether most part of Gujarat is not , 89 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, '9'0 (SAKA) Written Answers 190 covered by TV; if so, the details thereof; Licences for Setting up of Synthetic (c) whether Gujarat Government has Fibre Units sent proposals for setting up more TV centres in that State, if so, the details thereof; 2411. SHRI PARASRAM BHARDWAJ: and Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (d) the steps being taken by Govern- ment to set up more TV relay centres in (a) the names of the industrial houses to Gujarat particularly in adivasi areas to bring whom licenceslletters of intent have been them at par with the urban areas? issued for setting up new units forthe manufacture of polyester filament, polyester THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- staple fibre, nylon and rayon yarn during the TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- last three years, their location, capacity, FORMATION AND BROADCASTING foreign collaborators and foreign exchange (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT) : (a) Four high content involved; power and 13 low power TV transmitters are, at present, functioning in Gujarat. (b) the names of the industrial houses which had applied for expansion of their (b) No, Sir, TV service is, at present, existing capacity and by how much, their available to about 71 per cent population of foreign collaborators and foreign exchange Gujarat. contents involved; and

(c) and (d). Requests have been re- (c) the letters of intentl1icences out of ceived from time to time from the Govern- these which have not so far been fully util- ment of Gujarat for establishment of addi- ized and the reasons therefor alongwith the tional TV transmitters in Banaskantha, Bhar- applications still pending with Government uch, the Oangs, Kachchh, Panchmehals, for approval? Sabarkantha, Surat, Surendranagar, Va- dodra and Valsad districts of the State. The THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI schemes for the establishment of a high J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). The information power (10 KW) TV transmitter at Bhuj (in pertaining to polyester filament yarn, polyes- replacement of the existing low power trans- ter staple fibre and nylon filament yarn re- mitter); four low power (100 W) TV transis- garding letters of intentlindustrial Iicenc9s tors, one each at Jamnagar, Junagarh, issued during 1986, 1987 and 1988, loca- Porbandar and Val sad ; and a very low power tion, capacity, foreign collaborators as ap- (2 x 10W) TV transmitter at Kakrapar are plied for/approved and the foreign exchange under implementation in Gujarat as part of required for import of capital goods as indi- the Seventh Plan. On commissioning of cated in the application/as approved for is these transmitters, TV service would be given in the statement below. available to about 740/0 popu!ation of Gujarat and all the tribal districts of the State are then The initial validity period of letters of expected to be covered by TV service, either intent and industrial licences is for a period Wholly or partially. Extension of TV service to of thre9 years and two yaars respectively. the remaining uncovered parts of the country including those of Gujarat State can be Normally it takes 3-4 years to set up carried out in a phased manner depending such plants after all the approvals such Upon the future availability of resources for foreign collaboration import of capital goods, this purpose. pollution clearance etc. 191 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 192

The information regarding rayon yarn, Details of applications for industrial li- which pertains to Ministry of Textiles, is cences are not disclosed till a final decision being collected and will be laid on the Table is taken. of the House. 193 Written Answers AGRAHAVANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 194

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Sickness In Public Sector Industries the principal causes are faulty planning, management deficiencies, inefficient finan- 2412. SHAI CHINTAMANI JENA : Will cial control, diversion of resources, inade- the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to quate attention to R&D, obsolescence of state: technology and machinery, poor industrial relations, inadequate demand, shortage of (a) the percentage of the public sector raw material, power and other inputs and and private sector industries in the country infrastructural constraints. which become sick during the last three years, year-wise; (d) Government and Public Sector Management have taken a .number of short- (b) the major causes for their sickness; term and long-term steps to improve the performance of public sector enterprises. (c) whether there is a gradual increase These are detailed at page 179 of Volume-I in industrial sickness from year to year; and of Public Enterprises Survey 1986-87 placed on the Table of the House on 25th (d) if so, the steps being taken to save February, 1988. the industrial units in public sector from sickness? URI Hydel Project

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI 2413. SHRI M.V. CHAN- J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (c). Though there DRASEKHARA MURTHY: Will the Minister are loss making public sector enterprises, of ENERGY be pleased to state: they are not declared sick. Details of private sector industries In the Country aSSisted by (a) whether the Central Electricity Au- Banks which become sick dUring the last thority has carried out its studies on the URI three years are given below:- Hydel Project to be set up under the aegis of the National Hydroelectric Power Corpora- Year Total number of sick industries tion Limited; (including large, medium and small scale units) (b) whether the tender bids for the project have been invited; and 1985 1,19,606 (c). If so, the outcome thereof? 1986 1,47,740 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 1987 1,59,283 DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- (upto TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) June) : (a) Yes, Sir. The URI Hydroelectric Project has been techno-economically cleared by This is according to the Data collected Central Electricity Authority. by the Reserve Bank of India. (b) Yes, Sir. Generally, a number of causes, both internal and external, often operating in (c) The offers of the competing Consor- combination, have been responsible for tia of firms are in an advanced stage of industrial sickness in private sector. Some of evaluation/negotiations. 207 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 208

Change In Norms for Sharing of Power are also met through appropriate allocation. 2415. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (c) 15% of the power is kept state: uunallocated" at the disposal of the Central Government for (a) whether Planning Commission has meeting the urgent require- suggested changes in the norms for sharing ments of the individual States in of power with the State Electricity Boards in the Region from time to time. the regions where generation is low; and CENTRAL HYDEL STA TIONS (b) if so, what are these norrl'!s and the effect of the proposed change particularly (a) The "Home State", i.e. where the on the existing tariff structure? project is located is supplied 12% of power from the energy THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE generated by the Power Station DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN 15- free of cost. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAt) : (a) and (b). With a view to encouraging (b) 735 of the power is distributed to States to offer more power projects in the the States in the Region (includ- Central Sector, the Planning Commisston ing Home State) in accordance have suggested an exercise to cons~der an with the Central Plan Assis- increase in the allocation to the Home State, tance, to and energy consump- in the generation from Central power sta- tior, in the States of the Region tions. The effect of the suggestion could be for 5 years. assessed only after it is crystalised. The present formulae for power sharing from (c) 15"10 of the power is kept as III Central Stations are given in the Statement unallocated" at the disposal of below. the Central Government for meeting the urgent require- STATEMENT ments of the individual States in the Region from time to time. Change in Norms for sharing of Power Foreign tie-up for manufacture of CENTRAL THERMAL STA TIONS Footwear

(a) 10% of the power is allocated to the State in which the STPS is 2416. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL located (Home State). : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) 75% of the power is distributed to the States in the Region (includ- (a) the particurars of the foreign tie-ups ing Home State) in accordance recently approved for the manufacture of with the Central Plan assistance footwear including canvas and rubber and to, and energy consumption in, shoe-making machinery; the States of the Region for 5 years. The requirements of the (b) the names of the foreign collabora- Union Territories in the Region tors and the Indian parties concerned, the "9 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 210 terms and conditions regulating these tie- each of the divisions created alongwith the ups, the capacity for the manufacture; and work load in each case;

(c) the need for such foreign coJJabora- (c) the norms forthe bifurcation of exist- tion in the shoe-making industry when ing divisions and whether some relaxations enough indigenous expertise and capacity is in work load is given in case of special available in the country? category States or other hilly and backward areas; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) if so, the nature and details thereof;? DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI (b). The particulars of foreign collaboration GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) No, Sir. proposals approved. viz. name of the Indian Company, foreign collaborator, item of (b) to (d). Do not arise. manufacture, nature of collaboration are published on a quarterly basis by the Indian Indian Entries for International Film Investment Centre, as a supplement to its Festivals at Chicago, USA monthly News Letter. Copies of the publica- tion are sent regularly to the Parliament 2418. PROF NARAIN CHAND PAR- Library. As a matter of policy, speCific mtor- ASHAR: Will the Minister of INFORMATION mation relating to individual Company par- AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: ticularly in relation to financial details, reasons for approval/rejection, terms offered (a) whether his attention has been etc., are not revealed in public interest. drawn to the Newsitem captioned "No Indian Film"' appearing in the ''Times of Indta"of 7th (c) Foreign Collaborations in the sho9- November, 1988. making industry are allowed keeping in view the extent of the expertise available within (b) whether India has sent any entry to the country and also the need for advanced the International Film Festival at Chicago, if technology to meet the export targets and so, the details thereof; and serve national interests. (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Creation of Telecommunication Dlvl· slons In Himachal Pradesh THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 2417. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN· ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING TIONS be pleased to state: (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) ; (a) Yes, Sir.

(a) whether the Telecommunication Divisions including one at Mandi (Himachal (b) and (c). India has been participating Pradesh) were created in 1985, 1986, 1987 in this Festival on the basis of the invitation and 1988; of the Festival Management. This year no invitation was received, nor any official inti- (b) if so, the dates and other details of mation about the Festival. 211 Wrinsn Answsrs NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 212

Carrier System In Hamlrpur and Una date by which these would be installed; and Telephone Sub-Divisions of Himachal Pradesh (c) whether sufficient staff and equip- 2419. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- ment has been made available to the field ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- officers for this purpose? TIONS be pleased to state:

(a) the number of carrier systems sanc- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tions in Himarpur and Una telegraph sub- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI division of Himachal Pradesh for provision! GJRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) 8 Carrier augmentation of jundions for Small Auto Systems in Hamirpur and 5 in Una telegraph Exchanges; sub-Divisions.

(b) the details each of systems and the (b) The Systems are:-

Hamirpur Sub. Dn. Subject to availability of equipment. Target of commissioning.

1. Hamirpur-Lambloo 3 chi

2. Hamirpur-Bhuranj 3chl

3. Ham irpu r -Phola 3chl

4. Hamirpur-Sujanpur Tehra 3 chi

5. Bilaspur- Barmana 3 chi These would be installed progressively during 88-90 subject to availability of equipment.

6. Hamirpur- Galora 3 chI

7. Hamirpur-Bhyri 3 chi

8. Bilaspur- JUkhda 3 chi

Una Sub Dn.

1. Una-Panjwar 3chl

2. Una-Bhara 3 chi

3. Una-Bangana 3chl

4. Una-Haloi 3 chi

5. Una-Sari T akoli 3chl 213 WrintNJ Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 214

(c) The equipment has been allotted been set up in Madhya Pradesh during the and supply is expected during 88-89 and 89- last three years; 90. No difficulty is however anticipated about the availability of staff for installation. (b) the construction works which remain to be completed for setting up the radio Closing of Public Call Offices station at Sagar; and

2420. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- Cc) the time by which it will start function- ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUN ICA- ing? TIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- (a) whether any Public Call Offices TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- have been closed or shifted from the Extra FORMATION AND BROADCASTING Departmental Branch/Sub-Post Offices and (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) : (a) No new All India installed at other convenient places like Radio Station has been set up in Madhya grocery shops etc. during the Seventh Plan, Pradesh during the last three years though it till date; is proposed to set up 1 0 new stations.

(b) if so, the names and number of (b) Building works are in progress at villages in which the closure/shifting has Sagar. Equipments have been ordered. been effected in each circle, district-wise Technical areas are likely to be ready in early during each year, separately; 1989-90. Installation works would be taken up soon after completion of technical area. (c) whether some Public Call Offices have been closed permanently and no shift- (c) The radio station at Sagar is envis- ing has taken place resulting in considerable aged to be oompleted during the later part of inconvenience to the rural people; and 1989-90.

(d) if so, the reasons therefor and LPG AgenCies In Madhya Pradesh to whether all such closed Public Call Offices SCsiSTs would be reopened during the remaining period of the Seventh Plan? 2422. SHRI NANDLAL CHOUDHARY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) to(d). The in- (a) the names of the places in Madhya formation is being collected and will be laid Pradesh where LPG agencies have been on the Table of the House. allotted to the persons belonging to Sched- uled Castes and Scheduled Tribes during [ Translation] the last three years;

Air Stations In Madhya Pradesh (b) the number of agencies allotted in Madhya Pradesh to the persons belonging 2421. SHRI NANDLAL CHOUDHARY : to the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND Tribes; and BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (c) the names of the places in Madhya (a) the places where AIR stations have Pradesh where LPG agencies are likely to 215 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 216 be allotted to Scheduled Castes and Sched- 3. Murwara Katni uled Tribes during the current year and the ensuing year? 4. Anjad

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 5. Barwarda MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUIT) : (a) The 6. Ambah oil industry has allotted LPG distributorships at the following places in Madhya Pradesh to 7. AHrajpur persons belonging to the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes during the last three 8. Mandsaur years; () Gwalior 1. Barwani 10. Indore 2. Ashok Nagar 11. Durg 3. Mahendragarh 12. Jabalpur 4. Sanawad 13. Khandwa 5. Raigarh As various steps precede the actual 6. Dongargarh allotment of a distributorship. it is not possible to indicate the exact time by which the 7. Kurasia allotment of the above dealerships would materialise. 8. Bilaspur (2 Distributorships) [English] 9. Itarsi Tenders for Rlhand Phase-II, Power 10. Bhatapara Project

11. Raipur 2423. DR. B.L. SHAILESH : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) So, far. as total number of 26 LPG distributorships have been allotted in (a) whether the National Thermal Madhya Pradesh to persons belonging to Power Corporation Ltd. (NTPC) has since SC/ST; completed evaluation of the tenders for its 1000 MW Rihand Phase-II Power Project; (c) Upto the Annual LPG Marketing Pian 1987-88, the oil industry has planned to (b) whether the Sharat Heavy Electri- anot 13 more LPG distributorships at the cals Limited (SHEL) had also submitted a following locations in Madhya Pradesh to bid; persons belonging to SC/ST.;

(c) if so, the outcome thereof't and 1. Bilaspur (d) when the power generation from this 2. Korbe: project is likely to start? 217 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Wrinen Answers 218

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Marketing and Distribution of Petro- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- leum Products TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI) : (a) to (c). The evaluation of the offers 2425. SHRI LAKSHMAN MAlUCK : received by the National Thermal Power Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Corporation for the Rihand Super Thermal NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Power Project Stage-II has not been completed. A combined offer from MIs. Bharat (a) whether Government. as a part of Heavy Electricals Limited in association with their new strategy to improve marketing and MIs. Siemens, West Germany and MIs. distribution of petroleum products. have Combustion Engineering. Canada has also initiated a number of measures to augment been received. and improve the supplies by rail and road, and (d) As per the present schedule, the first 500 MW unit of the Rihand Stage-II Project (b) if so, the details in this regard? is envisaged to start generation by the year 1994-95 and the second unit one year there- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE after. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUIT) : (a) and Tltaghur Paper Mills (b). For ensuring regular availability of petroleum products. the oil industry has been 2424. DR. B.L.SHAILESH : Will the taking various measures on a oontinuous Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: basis. These measures inter-alia, include putting up full-rake tank wagon loading/un- (a) whether the Board for Industrial and loading facilities at terminals and depots, Financial Re-construction (BIFR) has taken setting up of new depots and terminals, any decision with regard to revival of the resitement of old depots, putting up of addi- Titaghur Paper Mills Limited; and tional product tankage, augmentation of tank lorry fleet, procurement of new tank (b) if not, the stage at which the matter wagons by the Railways and augmentation stands at present? of pipeline net work for quick and more economic movement of these products.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [ Translation] DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Production of Plastic and Plastic Made TRY(SHRIM.ARUNACHALAM):~)and Goods (b). The Board for Industrial and Financial Re-construction has not passed any final 2426. SHRI R. M. BHOVE : Will the orders on the reference roads to it by the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Titaghur Paper Mills under sub-section(i) of section 15 of the Sick Industrial Companies (8) the steps taken by Government to (Special Provisions) Act, 1985. The Board boost up the production of plastic and plastic has sought the views of the Central Govern- made goods; ment. State Governments and Financial Institutions on the various measures to be (b) the number of plastic producing adopted in respect of the Company. units which are economically sound; and 219 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 220

(c) whether Government propose to [English] give any incentive to the entrepreneurs with a views to increase the production of plastic Direct Telegraph Service aetw•• n as well as plastic made goods? Calcutta and Balurghat W.B ..

2428. SHRI PALAS BARMAN: Will the Ministerof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO) :(a) and (c). These include to state: approvals to setting up additional capacities (a) whether there is a proposal to intro- for the manufacture of plastic raw materials, measures to facilitate availability of raw duce direct telegraph service between Cal- materials to processing units at reasonable cutta and Balurghat and open a Departmen- prices, setting up of facilities for training and tal Telegraph Office (OTO) at Baluryhat. the other services to plastic industries, dissemi- district headquarters of West Dinajpur in nation of information etc. West Bengal; and

(b) the reasons for non-functioning of (b) No such census has been carried telegraph service between Balurghat, Hili out. and Kumarganj in West Dinajpur of West Bengal? Utilisation of Equipment Lying with Public Sector Units THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 2427. SHRI R. M. SHOVE : Will the GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) It is proposed Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: to connect Balurghat with Calcutta through Store and Forward System at Siliguri for (a) the details of equipment lying unutil- more speedy delivery fo telegrams. Pres- ised with the public sector units under ·his ently, opening of a Departmental Telegraph Ministry and the total value thereof; Office is not justified as the Telegraph Traffic is much below the required norms.

(b) the reasons for not utilising the (b) The Telegraph Service between equipment by them; Balurghat, Hilli and Kumarganj has been disrupted because of natural calamities like (c) the value of imported as well as cyclones, floods etc. However, action is indigenous components of the said equip- being taken to stabilize the same. ment; and

[ Translation] (d) whether there has been any deterio- ration in the quality of the equipment due to Performance of Telephone Exchanges thair non-utilisation? In U.P. and Bihar

2429. SHRI KAll PRASAD PANDEY: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (d). The information pleased to state: ;s being col1ected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (a) the action taken by Government to 221 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 222 improve the performance of various tele· of faults. phone exchanges in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar and the details of the expenditu re ii) Replacement of life expired incurred thereon during the last three years, equipment. year-wise and iii) Replacement of old subscriber (b) how many telephone exchanges ;n instruments by improved tele- Uttar Pradesh and Bihar have been bene- phone instruments. fited as a result thereof and how many exchanges are still not functioning properly? iv) Rehabilitation of cable distribution points. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) The following v) Replacement of subscriber steps are taken to improve the performance loops by insulted dropwires. of telepholte systems in U.P. and Bihar. vi) Red uctio n of ove rhead i) Intensive testing of internal and alignment by underground external plants and rectification cable.

The details of expenditure incurred are as under:-

Year U.P., Bihar (excluding Kanpur, lucknow Allahabad, Varanasi & Agra Division) (in crores) (In crores)

1985·86 Rs 3.88 Rs. 1.76

1986-B7 Rs B.9

1987-88 Rs 10.9 Rs 3.37

(b) All 1074 telephone exchanges in (a) whether the industrial units in the U.P. and 413 exchanges in Bihar are bene- country depended mainly on their collabora- fitted. All the exchanges are functioning tors and associates instead of giving utmost satisfactorily. importance to general, upg radation absorption and adaptation of the imported technology; [English] (b) whether the productivity of the In- Strengthening of Research and Devel· dian industry was far below acceptable opment base by Industrial Units norms of international standards; and

2430. SHRI S.B.SIDNAl: Will the Min- (c) if so, the main reasons for the same ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: and the steps Government propose to take 223 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answsrs 224 in this regard? Performance of Public Telephones In Pune THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- 2432. PROF. RAMAKRISHNA MORE: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY Or= INDUS- Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Indus- pleased to state: try is being constantly urged to strengthen their research and development base so that (a) whether the attention of Govern- indigenous technologies could be devel- ment has been drawn to a news item cap- oped. and imported technologies could be tioned "Funeral procession of Public phone' absorbed, adapted and improved upon to appearing in the "Hindustan Times" of 11 suit Indian conditions. In the case of large October, 1988. value foreign collaborations, the efforts made by the Indian company to absorb and (b) If so, whether the public telephones adapt the imported technology are moni- in Pune do not function properly; and tored. (c) if so, the steps proposed in this (b) and (c). Industry is also being urged regard? to improve their productivity and reduce their cost of production so that they can remain THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE competitive both in internal and external MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI markets. Modernisation and technology GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes,Sir. upgradation is being encouraged by the Government with a view to improving the (b) Telephone Services in Pune were efficiency of the industry. affected adversely due to heavy rains and agitation by a Technician Union during the month of August and September, 1988. Committee on working of News Net- work (c) Technicians were taken back on duty and faults were attended immediately. 2431. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- The performance of Pune Telephones has TIL : Will the Minister of INFORMATION since improved. AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Committee constituted Power Production in Seventh Plan to inquire into the working of the news network has submitted its report; 2433. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: DR. G.S. RAJHANS : (b) if, so, the details thereof; and SHRIMATI MADHUREE SINGH: (c) if not, when the report ;s expected? Will the Minister of ENERGY be THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- pleased to state: TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (a) the target fixed under the Seventh (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) :(a) to (c). The Plan for production of power. Committee proposed to go into the question of format and content of programmes broad- (b) whether the target has been cast by All India Radio, has not been set up. achieved; 225 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 226

(c) if not, the extent of shortfall and the (C) if the ingredients are being imported, sectors/areas where the shortfall is clearly whether any efforts have been made to pronounced; and produce them in the country and save valuable foreign exchange; and (d) the steps being contemplated to make up the shortfall? (d) the steps taken or proposed to achieve self-sufficiency in this regard? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (d). Vitamin A is RAI):(a) to (d). During the Seventh Plan being produced in the country from the basic period the target of additional capacity for stage. Though production has been increas- power generation has been fixed as 22.245 ing over the years, self·sufficiency has not MW. During the first three years of the Sev- been achieved. For encouraging its produc- enth Plan (i.e.) upto 1987-88, a capacity of tion, Vitamin A has been de-licensed. Infor- 11,828.94 MW has been commissioned. mation regarding import of ingredients will Various measures have been taken to obvi- be collected and placed on the Table of the ate delays in completion of power projects House. which include extensive monitoring of the ongoing projects, expeditious supply of [ Translation] equipments and materials, visits to project sites by senior officers of the Government Power Generation Target for 1988-89 and Central Electricity Authority to identify and overcome the constraints. The need for 2435. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL : Will effective project management has also been the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: emphasised on the project authorities. With these measures it s expected that the targets (a) whether any target for generation of fixed for the Seventh Plan will be fully power has been fixed by the Central Electric- achieved. ity Authority for the year 1988-89;

Self-Sufficiency in Vitamin A (b) whether the target ha~ been fixed State-wise; and 2434. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (c) if so, the details thereof, State-wise. state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Vitamin A is being manufac- DEPARTMENl OF POWER IN THE MINIS- tured indigenously; TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) :(a) and (b). Yes, Sir. (b) if so, whetherthe ingredients used in its manufacture are available in Indian or (c) The requisite information is given in these are being imported; the Statement below:- 227 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Wrln9n Answers 228

STATEMENT

BOARD/STA TEWISE GENERA TION TARGET DURING 1988-89

Board/System/State Type Generation(Gwh) Target 1 2 3 1. 8BMB Hydro 10780

2. DELHI THermal 2250 DESU

8adarpur (NTPC) Thermal 3480

Delhi total Thermal 5730

3. J & K Hydro 870 J&K

Salal (NH PC) Hydro 2040

Total 2910

4. H.P Hydro 770 HPSEB Balrasiul (NHPC) Hydro 750 H.P.Total Hydro 1520

5. Haryana Thermal 2250 HSEB Hydro 160

Total 2410

6. Rajasthan Thermal 1350 RSEB Hydro 1040

Total 2390

RA PS, Rajasthan Total Nuclear 1160

Thermal 1350

Nuclear 1160

Hydro 1040

Total 3550 229 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 230

1 2 3

7. Punjab Thermal 6210 PSEB Hydro 1900

Total 8110

8. Uttar Pradesh Thermal 14050 UPSEB Hydro 4890

Total 18940

Singrauli (NTPC) Thermal 11290

Rihand (NTPC) Thermal 800

Unchahar (UPVUN) Thermal 300

U.P. Total Thermal 26440

Hydro 4890

Total 31330

9. Gujarat Thermal 15170 GEB Hydro 910

Total 16080

Gu;arat (Pvt.) Thermal 2376

Gujarat (Total) Thermal 17546

Hydro 910

Total 18456

10. Maharashtra Thermal 22075 MSEB Hydro 4030

Total 26105

Tarapur Nuclear 1760 231 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answsrs 232

1 2 3

Maharashtra (Pvt.) Thermal 5300

Hydro 1120

Total 6420

Maharashtra Total Thermal 27375

Nuclear 1760

Hydro 5150

Total 34285

11. Madhya Pradesh Thermal 12650 MPEB Hydro 490

Total 13140

Korba (NTPC) Thermal 6938

Vindhyachal (NTPC) Thermal 1540

M.P. Total Thermal 21128

Hydro 490

Total 21618

12. Andhra Pradesh Thermal 7900 APSES Hydro 6955

Total 14855

R' Gundem STPS(NTPC) Thermal 4921

A.P. Total Thermal 12821

Hydro 6955

Total 19776

13. Karnataka Thermal 2400 233 Writt9n Answers AGRAHAVANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) WriUen Answers 234

1 2 3

Hydro 8010

Total 10410

14. Kerala Hydro 4300

15. Tamil Nadu Thermal 8000 TNEB Hydro 3370

Total 11370

Nayveli Thermal 6418

Kalpakkam Nuclear 2580

Tamil Nadu Total Thermal 14418

Nuclear 2580

Hydro 3370

Total 20368

16. Bihar Thermal 3770 BSEB Hydro 206

Total 3976

17. Orissa Thermal 1500 OSEB Hydro 3330

Total 4830

18. West Ben9al Thermal 3650 WBSEB Hydro 114

Total 3764

DPL Thermal 1060

CESC (PVT) Thermal 2500 235 Writt9n Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 238

'. .... 1 2 3

Kolaghat (WBPDC) Thermal 1850

Farakka (NTPC) Thermal 3000

West Bengal (Total) Thermal 12060

Hydro 114

Total 12174

19. DVC Thermal 6700

Hydro 300

Total 7000

20. Sikkim Hydro 30

21. Assam Thermal 1250

22. Meghalaya

State NEEPCO Hydro 365

Hydro 815

Total 1180

23. Manipur Hydro 410 Loktak (NHPC)

24. Tripura Thermal 52

Hydro 45

Total 97

All India Thermal 163000

Hydro 5500

Total 58000

226500 237 Wrinen Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 238

Non-completion of Coal ProJects time is mainly due to the following reasons;

2436. SHRI SHANTI DHARfWAl : Will 1) delay in acquisition of tenancy! the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: forest land;

(a) whether Government are aware of 2) delay in obtaining supplies of the non-completion of coal projects in the plant and equipment; country on time; 3) delay in main development due (b) if so, the main cause therefor; to adverse gee-mining conditions, etc. (c) the number of coal projects approved by Union government as on 30th (c) 25 coal mining projects (includ- September, 1988, regionl1ocation-wise ing washeries) have been approved by and the details thereof; Union Government since the beginning of the 7th Plan (1985-86) till 30th September, (d) whether coal production is likely to 1988. The details of these projects are given fall short of the target during the current in the Statement below financial year; and

(e) if so, the extent thereof? (d) and (e). Against the target of 196.28 million tonnes, production during 1988-89 is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE expected at 193.87 million tonnes. While DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- Coal India is expected to achieve its target, TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K.JAFFAR a shortfall is anticipated in respect of Sin- SHARIEF) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The non- garsni Collieries and the captive mines of completion of some of the coal projects in TISCO/IiSCO/OVC. 239 Wrinen Answers NOVEMBER 29,1988 Written Answers 240

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THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE [English] MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) to (d). National Technology Mission for The present prices of natural gas have been Electric Power fixed for the penod upto 31.3.1988. The 2437. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: question of revision of natural gas prices, if any • arise only for the period after SHRI S.B.SIDNAL : would SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: 31.3.1989.

Will the Minister of ENERGY be TelElcast of T.V. Films on Indian History pleased to state: 2439. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND (a) whether it is proposed to set up a BROADCASTING be pleased to state: National Technology Mission for electric power on the pattern of tech nology missions (a) whether Union Government are for telecommunications and water·, contemplating to have more T. V. films on (b) if so, whether any final decision has Indian history after the successful and responsible Influence of "Ramayan" and been taken in this regard; and "Mahabharat" and (c) to what extent it will help the power (b) if so, the details thereof? research and development activities?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN IS- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (a) No, Sir. (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): (a) and (b). The purpose of serialising 'Ramayan' and 'Ma- (b) and (c). Does not arise. habharat' on Doordarshan is to bring to the viewers the literary, aesthetic and ethical Revision of Gas Prices aspects of these great epics. It has been the endeavour of Doordarshan to telecast pro- 2438. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : grammes highlighting our history, culture, SHRI S.M. GURADDI: Philosophy, literature etc. Some of suct\ SHRI SHANTILAL PATEL: programmes being telecast are 'Discovery of Indian', 'Mioments', 'Mirza Ghalib' etc. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Fuel-efficiency norms for Commercial Vehicles (a) whether Government have decided 2440. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU : to revise the gas prices; SHRI SHANTILAL PATEL: (b) if so, the reasons therefor; Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) whether it will be done this year or next year; and (a) whether Union Government have prescribed higher fuel-efficiency norms for (d) to what extent the prices are likely to commercial vehicles; and be revised? 245 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 246

(b) if so, the details of the norms issued DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- by Government? OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b). Yes, Sir. A statement is given below:- 247 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 248

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Sattlng up of Oil Refinery In Tamil Nadu [ Translation]

2441. SHRf P. R. S. VENKATESAN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND T. V. relay centres In Madhya Pradesh NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(a) whether there is any proposal to set 2443. SHRI M. L. JHIKRAM: Will the up an oil refinery in South Arcat district, Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- Tamil Nadu; and CASTING be pleased to state:

(b) if so, the location selected therefor? (a) the number of districts in Madhya Pradesh where T. V. relay centres have not THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE been set up so far: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) No, (b) whether Government have taken Sir. any decision to accord priority to the setting up of T. V. relay centres in the backward and (b) Does not arise. adivasl dominating districts;

(c) whether the equipments procured Setting up of industries in Tamil Nadu for T. V. Relay Centres at Mandla, Seani and Balaghat, are lying unutilised for the last six 2442. SHRI P. R. S. VENKATESAN: months; and Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (d) if so, the time by which these T. V. Relay Centres will be set up?

(a) the details of proposals for setting THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT up of new industrial units in Tamil Nadu AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF INFORMA- pending with Union Government; and TION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H. K. L. BHAGAT): (a) At present, three districts of (b) when those proposals are likely to Madhya Pradesh are not covered by TV be cleared? service. TV service is, however. available in full or part in all the remaining districts of the State either from transmitters located in the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE districts or those functior.ing outside. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (b) Yes, Sir. TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM)' ; a) and (b). As on 30.9.1988, twenty inol.strial li- (c) and (d). No, Sir. Only part eqUip- cence applications received under the provi- ment has been received so far which can be sions of the Industries (Development and utilised only after the main transmitter equip- Regulation) Act for the setting up new Indus- ment is supplied by the manufacturers. As trial units in the State of Tamil Nadu are at per the present indications, the proposed TV various stages of processing. Details of such transmitters at Balaghat. Mandla and Seoni applications which are at various stages of are expected to be installed and commis- processing are not divulged till a final deci- sioned into service during the financial year. sion thereon is taken by the Government. 1999-99 itself. 253 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answ9rs 254

[English] NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

Panvel Complex of Oil and Natural Gas (a) the estimated production Of petro- commission leum products and the target fixed for the Seventh Plan period; 2444. SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: (b) whether Seventh Plan target is likely to be achieved; and Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (c) if not, the reasons thereof?

(a) whetherthe multicrore Oil and Natu- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ral Gas Commission Panvel Complex was MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- built with the object of easing the housing RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a)to (c). problems of its employees working in Bom- As against a Seventh Plan target of 45.47 bay region and to improve their efficiency; million tonnes in 1989-90, the estimated production of petroleum products from the (b) if so, to what extent the said object refineries in the terminal year of the Seventh has been achieved; and Plan is expected to 47.436 million tonnes.

(c) the problems, if any, in achieving the Laying of Pipelines for carrying Coal object? 2446. SHRI M. V. CHANDRA THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE SEKf:iARA MURTHY: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- SHRI V. SREENIVASA RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a)to (c). PRASAD: Oil and Natural Gas Commission's Panvel SHRI MADAN PANDEY: Complex includes, inter-alia, buildings for SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH the Institutes of Production Technology MALIK: Engineering and Ocean Technology and Staff Training; a Hospital. Central School, Will the Minister of ENERGY be Shopping and a Residential Complex. Of the pleased to state: 1479 flats proposed to be constructed in thE. residential complex, 1016 flats have already (a) whether Government propose to lay been completed of which over 873 flats have pipelines to carry coal from different coal been completed. ONGC has not faced any fields in the country; problem in achieving the object. (b) whether the assistance of any for- Production target Petroleum prodUCtS eign agency is also proposed to be taken; for Seventh Plan and

2445. SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: (c) if so, the details thereof and how SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH much investment is likely to be incurred in MALIK: this regard? SHAI MANIK REDDY; SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: THE MINISTER OF STATE jN THE SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS .. Will tne Minister of PETROLEUM AND TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C. K. JAFFAR 255 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 256

SHARIEF): (a) to (c). Government have means to undertake projects will arise only approved the preparation of a Detailed Proj- after proposals are worked out. ect Report (OPR) for a Demonstration Coal Slurry Pipeline of about 30 Kms. in length Integrated Energy Plan from New Majri coal mines of Western CoaHieids Ltd. to the Chandrapur Thermal 2448. SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Will the Power Station of the Maharashtra State Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Electricity Board. Engineers (India) Ltd. has been engaged to prepare the DPR. The (a) whether the Oil and Natural Gas investment proposal on the pipeline will Comm ission (ONGC) has submitted to have to await the preparation of the DPR? Union Government an integrated energy plan which envisages greater use of natural ElL may avail of the assistance of a gas by different sector; foreign consultants to provide revise review facilities in the preparation of the DPR. (b) whether the ONGC has also suggested a review of the energy pricing policy; Non-Conventional sources of Energy (c) if so, the reaction of Government to 2447. SHRI P. M. SAYEED: Will the the proposals and suggestions made by the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: ONGC; and

~a) whether the Energy Panel of the (d) the changes proposed to be made in National Alliance of Young Entrepreneurs energy pricing policy and their effect on the has been constituted; various sectors of the economy?

(b) if so, the main purpose thereof; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- (c) whether some new non-conven- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): tional sources of energy have been identi- (a) The Government has seen the report fied; prepared by ONGC on Integrated Energy Plan of India (1990 to 2005) which, inter-alia, Cd) if so, the details thereof; and suggests that there should be diversification (e) the ways and means to undertake in natural gas utilisation in various sectors the projects to exploit such sources for pro- which will lessen the dependence on im- duction of energy? ported crude oil.

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (b) the ONGC Report also suggests VASANT SATHE): (a) to (e). The Depart- that a detaIled study of the energy pricing ment of Non-Conventional Energy Sources policy should be undertaken to enable coal, has received a proposal from National Alli- oil, gas and power sectors to generate ance of Young Entrepreneurs for nomination adequate internal resources. of representative of this Department to be a member of the Energy Panel for 1988-89 (c) Government has taken note of the being constituted by them. It has been re- suggestions made by the ONGC. ported that the proposed Pane) would try to playa role in the context of global energy (d) For the present, there is no proposal crisis and to draw up a work plan to combat to make any change in the energy pricing energy crisis at national level. Ways and policy. 257 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 258

Proposal for Gas-Based Thermal Power Nigeria have been negotiated and finalised; Plant In Punjab (c) whetherthe proposed deal will be on 2449. SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Will the the lines of agreement already entered into Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: with Libya; and

(a) whether the Punjab State Electricity (d) how far this will help in meeting the Board has put forward proposals for allot- gap between demand and supply of oil? .. , ment of an atomic power plant of 2000 MW capacity and a gas based power plant of 400 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MW capacity to augment the installed ca- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- pacity; RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA QlJJT): (a) No Sir. (b) if so, the reaction of Government to the above proposals; and (b) to (d). Do not arise.

(c) the financial implications of these Import of Know-How for Tlda I Power proposals and how these are proposed to be Development met? 2451. SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (a) whether Government have formu- (a) to (c). No Project Report in respect of a lated any concrete proposals for tidal power 400 MW gas-based power station has been development; received from the Punjab Government who have suggested extension of the HBJ pipe- (b) if so, whether the know-how avail- line to the State. Keeping in view t~e current able within the country will be able to set up availability of gas and the existing commit- such projects; ments in respect thereof, there are, at present, no plans for extension of the pipeline (c) if not, the arrangements made or beyond Deihl. proposed to be made for the import of know- how for tidal power development; and There is no proposal to set up an atomic power plant in Punjab in the near future. (d) when these projects are likely to take a practical shape? Import of Crude 011 from Nigeria THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 2450. SHRI Y. S. MAHAJAN: Will the DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): GAS be pleased to state: (a) The Central Electricity Authority has prepared a techno-economic feasibility re- (a) whether Government are contem- port for a tidal power project on the Gulf of plating to purchase crude oil from Nigeria Kutch in Gujarat which envisages an instal- against the outstanding exports dues; lation of 900 MW.

(b) if so, whether the terms and condi- (b) and (c). Apart for inviting French tions for the purchase of crude oU from experts to India for consultations during the 259 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 260

course of techno-economic study of the Hazira Gas Cracker Plant project, some technical know~how has been obtained by s.3ndlng engineers of the Cen- 2453. SHRI S. M. GURADDI: traJ Electricity Authority on study toursltrain- DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI: ing in U. K. and France. However, it would SHRI SHANTILAL PATEL: still be necessary to seek foreign consultancy for detailing of the designs and con- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be struction of features and for the execution of pleased to state: the project (a) whether Government have cleared (d) The tIdal power project in Gulf of the Hazlra Gas Cracker plant; v.u ,) dn 08 Implemented after tho Invest-

II I ICISICln and detailing of the design (b) If so, to what extent It will be helpful and ( ') I 'I Ur;'IDI h-_atures. to the 011 and Natural Gas Comm ission;

Mem( I Clpdur'i ' ~ Understanding with (c) the estImated cost of the project; ~. ~lblic Si; ttor Enterprises and

! H \I S. M. GURADDI: (d) the number of person~ likely to be ,~di_H SHANTILAL PATEL: given employment in the plant? ~HRI S. B. SIDNAL: SHf11 H. B. PATIL: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a1 Yes, Sir. Will tho Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) This will provide the utilisation of natural gas lIqUids (NGL) beIng produced by (a) whether Union Government have 011 and Natural Gas Commission. decided to cover at least SIX more public sector enterprtses under the scheme of (c) Around Rs. 750 crores. memorandum of understanding; (d) 455 persons. (b) if so, the main objectives of the scheme; and Completion of lajkura Open Cast Coal Project (c) the names of public sector enterprises which are being brought under 2454. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will memorandum of understanding scheme? the MinIster of ENERGY be pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (a) the reasons for delay in completing J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). Government the Lajkura Open Cast Coal Project at public has decided to cover a few more SambalpLJr and the RaJgamar Underground sector undertakings under the scheme of Coal Project at SIIaspur; Memorandum of Understanding for the year 1989-90. The list is yet to be finalised. The (b) the cost over-runs over the original main objective behind signing MOU with estimated cost in both cases; and public sector undertaking is to grant them greater autonomy and make them account- (c) the steps taken or proposed to able for results. expedite the completion of these projects? 261 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA8. 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 262

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- (c) the steps being taken to reduoe the TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C. K. JAFFER cost over-run? SHARIEF): (a) to (c). The LajkuraOpen Cast Project at Sambatpur has been completed in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE March, 1988 as per schedule. Against the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- sanctioned capacity. of 1.00 million tonnes RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) The per year, the project has actually produced required information is furnished in State- 1.28 million tonnes in 1987-88. The total ment below. expenditure incurred on this project is estimated at Rupees 26.43 crores against the (b) the state-wise list of bottling plants sanctioned capital cost of Rupees 25.79 undE!r construction by IOC and HPC is given crores. in Statement II below. All the bottling plants of IOC are expected to be commissioned by 2. In respect of Rajgam~r Under March, 1989, except for Haridwar bottling ground Project, the production achieved plant which is expected to be commissioned during 1987-88 was 0.244 million tonnes by December, 1989, on account of delay in against the Project Report Schedule of 0.70 acquisition of land. In the case of HPCL the million tonnes. Due to adverse geo-mining bottling plant at Miraj is expected to be conditions encountered during the implem- commissioned as scheduled, by December, entation of the project which were not envis- 1988; the bottling plants at Gandhi Nagar, aged in the approved Project Report, the Delhi, Gorakhpur, Hoshiarpur and Unnao project is not now expected to achieve a are expected to be commissioned later than production of more than 0.25 million tonnes scheduled, on account of delays in acquisi- per year. It is, therefore, proposed to treat tion of land, disturbed conditions in Punjab, this project as completed at the production delay in obtaining No Object Certificates level of 0.25 million tonnes per year without from State Pollution Control Boards, etc. any further investment. The total expenditure incurred on this project so far is Rupees (c) Close Monitoring is being done on a 32.81 crores against the sanctioned capital continuous basis by the oil companies con- cost of Rupees 33.93 crores. cerned to avoid cost overruns.

STATEMENT I CommiSSioning of Bottling Plants by IOC and HPC Commissioning of Bottling Plants by 10C and HPCL 2455. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- Name of the Location RAL GAS be pleased to state: Oil Co.

(a) the State-wise break-up of the bot- 1 2 tling plants commissioned by the Indian Oil IOC 1. Guwahati (Assam) Corporation and the Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd. so far; 2. Duliajan (Assam)

(b) the reasons for delay in commis- . 3. Bongaigaon (Assam) sioning other proposed bottling plants, State-wise break-up thereof; and 4. Barauni (Bihar) 283 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answ9rs 264

1 2 1 2

5. Koyali (Gujarat) 29. Khapri (Maharashtra)

6. Rajkot (Gujarat) 30. Bangalore (Karnataka)

7. Kanpur (Panki) U.P. 31. Hyderabad (Andhra Pradesh)

8. Kanpur (Mini Plant): U.P. 32. Manglia (Madhya Pradesh

9. Mathura (Uttar Pradesh) 33. Surat (Gujarat)

10. Allahabad (Uttar Pradesh) 34. Miraj (Maharashtra)

11. Jalandhar (Punjab) 35. Vijayawada (A.P.)

12. Kalyani (West Bengal) 36. Calcutta (West Bengal)

13. Haldia (West Bengal) 37. Cuttack (Orissa)

14. Durgapur (West Bengal) 38. Raipur (Madhya Pradesh)

15. Madras (Tamil Nadu) 39. Pune (Maharashtra)

16. Salem (Tamil Nadu) 40. Jodhpur (Rajasthan)

17. Cochin (Kerala) 41. Srinagar (Jammu & Kashmir)

18. Bangalore (Karnataka) 42. Ludhiana (Punjab)

19. Sawai Madhopur (Rajasthan) 43. Shakurbasti (Delhi)

20. Shakurbasti (Delhi) 44. Mysore (Karnataka) 21. Sawai Modhapur (Rajasthan) 45. Goa (Goa)

22. Durgapur (West Bengal) 46. Hubli (Karnataka)

23. Kamal (Haryana) 47. Aurangabad (Maharashtra)

24. Hafdwani (U.P.) 48. Chandrapur (Maharashtra)

25. Hazira (Gujarat) 49. Jammu (Jammu & Kashmir)

26. Tikrikalan Phase-I (Delhi) 50. Snnagar (Jammu & Kashmir) HPC: 27. Bombay (Maharashtra) 51. Khurda Road (Orissa)

28. Vizag (Andhra Pradesh) 52. Jind (Haryana) 265 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 266

1 2 1 2

53. Vijayawada (A.P.) 13. Gurgaon/F aridabad (Harya ana) 54. Raipur (Madhya Pradesh) 14. Gorakhpur (Uttar Pradesh) 55. Hyderabad (Andhra Pradesh) [ Translation] 56. Jammu (Jammu & Kashmir)

Cost of Power Generation Commissioning of Bottling Plants by IOC and HPCL 2456. SHRI TEJA SINGH DARDI: SHRI BALWANT SINGH Name of the Location RAMOOWALlA: Oil Co. Will the Minister of ENERGY be 1 2 pleased to state:

IOC 1. Jamshedpur (Bihar) (a) whether the cost of power generation has been increasing continuously now; 2. Ajmer (Rajasthan) (b) if so, the reasons thereof; and 3. Balasore (Orissa) (c) the cost of power generation during 4. Bhopal (Madhya Pradesh) 1974-75, 1980-81 and 1986-87?

5. Varanasi (Uttar Pradesh) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- 6. Haridwar (Uttar Pradesh) TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (a) Yes, Sir. 7. Parwanoo (Himachal Pradesh) (b) The main reasons for increase in the cost of power generation are: 8. Tikrikalan Phase-II (Delhi) (i) Increases in the costs of fuel including transportatipn and HPC 9. Miraj (Maharashtra) increases in capital cost resulting in higher interest. 10. Dhaha-Hoshiarpur (Punjab) (ii) Increased proportion of ther- 11. Gandhinagar/Modassa mal generation as compared (Gujarat) to hydro generation.

12. UnnaolKannauj (Uttar (c) The average cost of generation of Pradesh) supply of power has been as under: 267 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Writt9l1 Answsrs 268

Year Paiselkwh (b) the details of the exchanges whose ...... _. ... _------capacity has been increased between 1974-75 22.68 1.3.1988 and 31.10.1988;

1980-81 41.90 (c) the number of persons given out of turn telephones connections in Delhi be- , 986-87 80.22 tween 1.1.1988 to 31.1 0.1988 on the recom· mendations of the Members of Parliament; [English] and

Waiting List for Telephone Connection (d) the number of applications duly in Delhi recommended by Members of Parliament pending grant of out of turn connections, and 2457. SHRI KAMALA PRASAD the reasons therefor? SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to refer 10 the reply given THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE on 22 March, 1988 to Unstarred Question MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI No. 4311 regarding waiting list for telephone GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The required connection in Delhi and state: information is furnished in the Statement below. (a) the total number of persons category-wise and exchange-wise on the waiting (b The exchanges of Delhi where ' lists of various telephone exchanges in De:hl capa. J has been increased between as on 1.11.1988; 1.3.8t to 31.10.1988 are:

1. Shakti Nagar 4000 lines.

2. Laxmi Nagar 7000 lines.

3. Okhla 4400 lines.

4. Shahdra (RLU) 1000 lines.

5. Nangloi (RLU) 1400 lines.

6. Karol Bagh 6000 lines.

7. Rohini (RLU) 2000 lines. 8. Najafgarh (RLU) 500 lines.

9. Janakpuri (RLU) 1000 lines. 10. Sadli (RLU) 400 lines. 11. Nehru Place 1000 lines. 269 Written Answers AGRAHAVANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 270

(c) Number of telephone connections 1.1.1988 to 31.1 0.1988 is 870 as per avail- sanctioned on out of turn priority basis in able information. Delhi on the recommendations of Members (d) The required information wit! be laid of Parliament during the period from on the Table of the House. STATEMENT

The total numberof persons category wise and exchange wise on the waiting list in Delhi as on 1.11.88 is furnished below:

S.No. Name of Exchange No. of persons in waiting list. OYT-G OYT-S N-OYT N-OYT N-OYT SS SPL GENL

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

1. Janpath 03 24 506

·2. Jorbagh 250 107 38 45 4427

3. Kidwai Bhavan 699 322 5 31 1582

4. Rajpath 198 708 26 65 1008

5. Lodhi Road 42 2 1 31

6. Sana Bhavan 65 137 15(16) 8 446

7. Alipur 13 5 9 345

8. Badli 117 3 93 900

9. Tis Hazari 6669

10. Narela 23 13 26 594

11. Shakti Nagar 1138 74 25 334 29724

12. Rohini 270 18 7 76 5049

13. Delhi Gate 314 24 47 7318

14. Idgah 236 11 2 72 11070

15. Lakshminagar 187 32 6 41 20167

16. Shahdara 866 74 8 790 8549

17. Chanakyapuri 768 629 115 360 6863 Written Answers 272 271 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988

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8935 18. Hauz Khas 1128 286 78 382

19. Nehru Place 3143 468 78 703 18336

20 Okhla 173 30 13 70 3267

21. Cantonment P NITe RLU 58 41 28 28 916

22. Janakpuri 696 190 110 439 8497

23. Karol Bagh 151 8 7 36 10385

24. Najafgarh 22 6 610

25. Nangloi 294 14 6 152 2482

26. Rajouri Garden 3037 342 176 1301 33805

Rural Electrification In Uttar Pradesh DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRYOF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI)): 2458. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: The districts of Meerut, Gaziabad. Buland- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to shahar, Muzaffarnagar, Ghazipur, Lucknow state the names of the districts in Uttar and Rae-Bareli in the State of Uttar Pradesh Pradesh having the maximum percentage of have achieved 100% electrification of vil- village electrification and percentage lages. A statement indicating the districtwise thereof in each district? percentage of village electrification as on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 30.9.1988 in Uttar Pradesh is given below. STATEMENT

District-wise details of total number of vii/ages (as per 1981 census), those electrified alongwith percentage as on 30.9. 1988 in the State of Uttar Pradesh.

51. Districts Total number Villages %ag9 No. ofviJIages electrified attained

1 2 3 4 5

1. Saharanpur 1700 1518 89.3

2. Meerut 920 1039 (*)

3. Ghaziabad 704 753 (*) 273 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) WriNen Answers 274

1 2 3 4 5

4. Bulandshahar 1365 1403 (*)

5. Muzaffarnagar 927 927 100.0

6. Aligarh 1704 1635 96.0

7. Mathura 867 799 92.2

8. Agra 1174 978 83.3

9. Mainpuri 1371 1068 77.9

10. Etah 1610 1019 67.5

11. Bareilly 1901 1256 66.1

12. Bijnor 2154 1578 73.3

13. Badaun 1785 1255 70.3

14. Moradabad 2473 2067 83.6

15. Rampur 1092 753 69.0

16. Shahjahanpur 2124 1036 48.3

17. Pilibhit 1198 693 57.9

18. Farrukhabad 1577 1234 78.3

19. Etawah 1462 841 57.5

20. Kanpur 1885 974 51.7

21. Fatepur 1349 992 73.5

22. Allahabad 3514 2812 80.0

23. Jhansi 759 468 61.7

24. Lalitpur 683 286 41.9

25. Jalaun 939 563 60.0

26. Hamirpur 917 483 52.7 275 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 276

1 2 3 4 5

27. Banda 1207 692 57.3

28. Varanasi 3662 2464 67.3

29. Mirazapur 3024 1106 36.6

30. Jaunpur 3245 2769 85.3

31. Gazipur 2540 2543 (*)

32. Gorakhpur 4110 2478 60.3

33. Ballia 1920 1509 78.6

34. Dearia 3538 2102 59.4

35. Basti 6929 2885 41.6

36. Azamgarh 4935 4153 84.2

37. Lucknow 899 899 100.0

38. Rae-Barel! 1731 1749 (*)

39. Unnao 1687 836 49.6

40. Sitapur 2330 910 39.1 41. Hardoi 1881 856 45.5 42. Kheri 1699 1131 66.6

43. Faizabad 2645 1971 74.5 44. Gonda 2809 1455 51.8 45. Bahraich 1884 1206 64.0 46. Suftanpur 2492 2218 89.0 47. Pratapgarh 2185 1410 64.5 48. Barabanki 2043 859 42.1

49. Nainital 1806 1660 91.9 277 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Writt9n Answers 278

1 2 3 4 5

50. Almora 3019 2047 67.8

51. Pithoragarh 2174 1088 50.1

52. Dehradun 743 646 80.9

53. Uttarkashi 669 544 81.3

54. Chamoli 1516 961 63.4

55. Pauri-Garhwal 3237 1527 47.2

56. Tehri-Garhwal 1953 1104 56.5

Total 112566 76208 67.7

(*) - Achievement exceeds to the total inhabited villages. State Electricity Board has been requested to clarify the discrepancy.

Voltage Fluctuations in Delhi Delhi is stable these days. However, low voltage is generally experienced during 2459. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: summer montns in the northern grid to which Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to Delhi system is connected due to various state: reasons such as increase in highly inductive agricultural and air-conditioning load. (a) whether Government are aware of fluctuations in voltage in almost all the areas (c) According to DESU, they have not of Delhi; made any such study.

(b) if so, the reasons thereof; (d) The steps being taken by DESU to improve the voltage, inter-alia, include en- (c) whether any study has been made hancing the present capacity of 355 MVAR to assess the loss to consumers for this shunt capacitors to 555 MVAR capacitors, reason, if so, the outcome thereof; and improving the performance of Indraprastha Station, use of Gas Turbines in Synchro- (d) what steps have been taken or are nous Mode, when necessary, and strength- proposed to eliminate voltage fluctuations? ening of T&D net work.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE The commissioning of 2 x 67.5 MW DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Rajghat Thermal Station during 1989 and TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAt): additional capacitors in Western U.P. and (a) ana (b). According to Delhi Electric Sup- Haryana power system will also improve the ply Undertaking the electricity voltage in voltage profile. 279 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 280

World Bank Loan for Therma~ Power proposed to be taken; and Stations (c) the cost of each thermal power 2460. SHRIANANTAPRASADSETHI: station and the amount of loan proposed to Will the Minister of EN ERGY be pleased to be taken for each of those power projects? state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether Government propose to DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- take loans from other countries for setting up TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): some thermal power stations in the country; (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) if so, the namesofthethermalpower (b) and (c). The desired information in stations for which loans from the World Bank respect of on-going and proposed thermal and other countries have been taken or are projects is given in the statement below. . 281 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 282 I

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-;:;->- c Q) (J ....(]) ~ Q) c: . .-0""0CD o (I) c: o C.Q) Lri CD fA c.'\I E c: Lt) Q) Q) ~1l <:0- (]) -cu->. E g ~ CD c tG (i;..s:: > fA 0- '1;._ E .S! Q) c: Q) ~~ fI) .~ <0 ,_ ><-fi :2 ~ 287 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 288

extension of T.V. Network to Tribal under the Seventh Plan to set up TV trans- Areas In Orissa mitters at Barbil, Joda, Matkambeda and Kiribur. 2461. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN' Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND Indo-Soviet Technological Co- BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Operation

(a) whether there is any proposal to 2462. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will extend T. V. network to the tribal areas of the the Minister of ENERGY be pleased 10 state: country; (a) whether Government have a pro- (b) if so, the tribal areas in Orissa posal to depute Indian engineers to Soviet provided with T. V. facility so far; Union for getting additional training on uni .. fied pawe. grid construction and power (c) the programme of Government in transmission over large distance; Seventh Plan in this regard; (b) tf so, the number of Indian electrical (d) whether Government have any engineers and other staff proposed to be proposal to provide T.V. network in Bolangir, sent to USSR for that purpose; and Barbil, Joda; Matkambeda and Kiribur areas of Orissa in Seventh Plan; and (c) whether the deputation would be sent under the Indo-Soviet Technological (e) if so, the steps taken in that direc- Co-operation? tion? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (a) Yes, Sir. (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. The Seventh Plan of Doordarshan includes a (b) and (c). Five Indian electrical eng; .. number of schemes for extending 1V net- neers are presently under going training in work in the tribal areas of the country. USSR in the field of Load Despatch Tech- niques. This deputation is covered under (b) TV service is, a1 present, available bilateral agreement of Indo-Soviet Techni- to parts of the tribal districts of Baleshwar, cal Cooperation in the field of Power Devel- Ganjam, Kalahandi, Koonjhar, Koraput, opment. Mayurbhanj, Sambalpur and Sundergarh in Orissa. DistribUtion of LPG Cylinders (c) On completion of the various TV Projects under implementation as part of the 2463. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will VII Plan, aU the tribal districts in the State are the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- expected to be covered, wholly or partially, RAL GAS be pleased to state: by TV service. (a) whether Government have received (d) and (8). Whereas a low power (100 complaints of the irregularities in the distri- W) TV transmitter is envisaged to be set up bution of LPG cylinders in some parts of the at Bolangir, there is, at present, no scheme country; 289 Written Answets AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 290

(b) whether it is proposed to increase made fabrics and yams? the production as well as supply of LPG cylinders to check the irregularities; and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) what other steps are being taken to check the irregularities? (b) The composition of the Committee is as follows:- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTERY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- 1. Textile Commissioner, Bom- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (8) A bay-Convener backlog in supply of LPG refills had developed temporarily recently In several parts of 2. A representative of Department country on account of shortfall in availability of Chemicals and Petrochemi- of LPG. apart from movement, industrial cals. Ministry of Industry. relation and other operational constraints; 3. Commissioner (TRU). Depart- (b) While availability of LPG cylinders is ment of Revenue. Ministry of adequate. efforts are being made to maxi- Finance. mise indigenous LPG production and also augment supplies through imports to the 4. President of the Association of extent feasible; Synthetic Fibre Industry or his representative. (c) All complaints received by the oil companies against LPG distributors are 5. A representative of the Associa- investigated promptly, whenever neces- tion of Polyester Staple Fibre sary. and appropriate action varying from Manufacturers. warning letters to even termination of distributorships in some cases is taken against 6. A representative of the Associa- the erring LPG distributors. in accordance tion of Man-made fibre Industry with the Marketing Discipline Guidelines. of India.

Committee for Monitoring Prices Of 7. A representative of th.e All India Man-Made Fabrics and Yarns Crimpers Association.

2464. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the 8. A representative of the Indian Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Cotton Mills federation.

(a) whether Government have set up a 9. A representative of the Federa- committee to monitor the prices of man- tion of the Art Silk Weaving In- made fabrics and yarns and ensure that due dustry. benefit of the duty relief reaches the consumer; 10. A representative of Powerloom Industries Association. (b) if so, the composition oftha committee; and 11. A representative of the Clothing Manufacturers Association. (c) how the committee will exercise control on sales and distribution of man- 12. A representative of the Retailers 291 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29,1988 Written Answers 292

Federation, Bombay. to state the names of the cities and villages in Orissa where new post offices and tele- 13. A representative of the Bombay graph offices were set up during 1987-881 Piece Goods Merchants Ma- hajan. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (c) The Committee is required to keep GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): The information is a watch over the price trends and advise the furnished in the statement given below. Government regarding the remedial measures, if necessary. STATEMENT

Power Projects In Private Sector ORISSA CIRCLE

2465. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Names of places where new post offices! Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: telegraph offices were opened during 1987-88 \a) the response of the private sector for establishment of power projects; Post Offices

(b) the current shorttaliin power supply 1. Simolaguda. and the projected demand and supply shortfall during the next Plan period; 2. Birlaxmanpur.

(c) the reasons for whiCh the 'electricity 3. Chitrao rate in India are very high as compared to the developing and developed countries; and 4. Phupugaon.

(d) what is the plant load factor and 5. Patrol. transmission loss in public and private sectors? 6. Indupur.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 7. Telijore. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE Mlr )- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): 8. Gobira. (a) While some parties have evinced interest '" the setting up of new power plants in the 9. Kadobahal private sector, no detailed proposal has been received in this regard. 10. Dahigira.

(b) to (d). The information is being col- 11. Dhrupad. lected and will be laid on the Table of the House. 12. Baddumermunda.

Setting up of New Post Offices and 13. Gudigaon. Telegraph Office. In Orissa 14. Siminai. 2468. SHRI K PRADHANI: Will the Mini.erof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased 15. Nuasomeswarpur. 293 Wrlnen Answers AGRAHAVANA 8. 1910 (SAKA) Wrlnen Answers 294

16. Parade9p Phosphates Ltd. LPG Agencies and Patrol Pumps In Orissa Telegraph Offices 2467. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL 1. Gaunju. GAS be pleased to state: (a) the number of petrol pumps and 2. 8adapur. LPG agencies so far allotted in Orissa by each oil company; and 3. Odava. (b) the numberof agencies proposed to be allotted in Orissa durinQ tho remaining 4. Dalki. period of the Seventh Plan? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 5. Balas Kumta. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) The required information is as under: 6. Borigaon.

Retail Outlet (MSIHSD) LPG Distributorships Company Dealerships so far so far allotted alloNed

1 2 3

HPC 18 32

IOC 42 35

BPe 24

I BP 5

(b) Marketing Plans for award of deal- served any quota for giving agencies/dealer- erships/distributorships for Petroleum Prod- ships for petroleum products to persons ucts are drawn by the oil industry on an belonging to Scheduled Castes and Sched- annual basis. Upto the latest Marketing uled Tribes; and Plan, the oil industry has planned to establish 41 more Retail Outlet (Petrol/Diesel) (b) if so, the number of persons belong- dealerships and 17 more LPG distributor- ing to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled ships in the state of Onssa. Tribes who have been allotted dealerships and agencies for petroleum products during se/ST Quota for Petroleum Products the last three years, State-wise? Agencles/Dea lersh Ips THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 2468. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: MINISTRY OF1PETROLEUM AND NATU- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTr): (a) Yes, NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: Sir. Under the current policy guidelines for selection of dealers/distribution of petro- (a) whether Government have rele~m products, a reservation of 250/0 exists 296 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 298 for persons belonging to the Scheduled the 3-year period 1985-86 to 1987-88 in the Castes/Scheduled Tribes; Statement below. (b) The required information is given for

STATEMENT

StatB/Union T9"itory tJ.QI Q.l LQ.l~ i~~J'.1IJ. Retail Outlet LPG Distri- SKO-LDO Dealerships butorships Agencies

1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 28 13 8

2. Arunachal Pradesh 7 5 5

3. Assam 13 6 5

4. Bihar 39 10 7

5. Goa 3 2

6. Gujarat 30 10 19 7. Haryana 15 9 2 8. Himachal Pradesh 9 2 1 9. Jammu & Kashmir 4 5

10. Karnataka 30 13 2 11. Kerala 19 23 3

12. Madhya Pradesh 19 9 10 13. Maharashtra 18 30 16 14. Manipur 5 1 15. Meghalaya 15 2 7

16. Mizoram 5 1 6 17. Nagaland 3 2 2

18. Orissa 13 7 7 297 W,.., AnswelS AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 ($AKA) Written Answers 298

1 2 3 4 5

10. Punjab 18 9 2

20. Rajasthan 40 12 1

21. Sikkim 1 1

22. Tamil Nadu 46 14 4

23. Tripura 1 2 1

24. Uttar Pradesh 39 27 7

25. Wast Bengal 13 16 5

26. Chandigarh 2

27. Oadra & Nagar Havel ,

28. Delhi 14 .4

29. Pondicherry ....L 1

Total 434 246 127

Shortage of Petrol In Puna, Maharash- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tr. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BAAHMA DUTT): (a) and 2469. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: (b). Sporadic shortage of petrol is reported to Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND have occurred at some retail outlets in Puna NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: in the last few months, mainly due to contin ... ued closure of Bombay-Puna product pipe- (a) whether Govemment are aware that I1ne and heavy monsoon rains restricting a number of petrol pumps had gone dry road movement and resultant delay in re- during the last three months at Puna in plenishment of stocks. Maharashtra; (c) The Bombay-Puns pipeline has (b) the reasons for the shortage of been recommissioned on the 29th Oct. 1988 patrol there; and and the supply position Is normal now.

(c) the action contemplated by Govern- For.lgn Brand Nam•• ment to keep adequate supply of petrol in Puna? 2470. SHRI CHINTAMAN. JENA: Will 299 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written AnsWBIS 300 the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (d) what are their advantage and disad- state: vantages?

(a) whether a condition is stipulated THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE when granting foreign collaboration that no MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- foreign brand names are to be used; RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) The present production of petrol in the country is (b) if so, the reasons therefore; adequate to meet the demand.

(c) whether any hybrid names have (b) and (c). Yes Sir. Some study/re- been registered as Indian brand names; and search works have been carried out in the past and also currently going on in India for (d) if so, the instances where goods finding out the substitutes for petroleum have been exported with a hybrid name? products. Alcohols, Compressed Natural Gas (eNG) and Liquified Petroleum Gas are THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE possible alternatives. The feasibility of using DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Ethanol & Methanol as substitute for petrol & OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- diesel has been established by research TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes, studies conducted by IOC (R&D) & the In- Sir. dian Institute of Petroleum, Dehradun. Pilot studies are also being conducted to use (b) This condition is incorporated in compressed natural Gas as an alternate foreign collaboration approvals with a view fuel. to discouraging the use of foreign trade marks on goods sold in the domestic market. (d) The advantages & disadvantages of sing alternate fuels inter-alia are: (c) No. Sir. I. Advantages: (d) Does not arise. 1. Part substitution of petroleum Substitutes of Petroleum products products.

2471. SHRI CHINTAMANIJENA: Will 2. Fuel economy and reduction in the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- atmospheric pollution. RAL GAS be pleased to state: II. Disadvantag9s: (a) whether the production of petrol is not sufficient to meet the demand and the 1. Modifications required on the country has to depend on import; engine in some cases.

2. Uncertain availability of alcohol.

(b) whether any experimentl study or research have been conducted to find out 3. Higher volatility of alcohol and substitutes to the petroleum products; eNG, necessitating adoption of more safety precautions. (c) if so, the details thereof and the names of other substances which can be 4. High Aldehyde emissions in uNd as substitutes; and case of alcohol blends. 301 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Wrinen Answers 302

5. Fuel economy and drillability registration are pending with the Registrar of may be adversely affected. Newspapers for India.

Registration of Newspapers and (e) Certain amendments to the Press Periodicals and Registration Books Act, 1867 are under consideration of the Government. 2472. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: Banning of Books

Will the Minister of INFORMATION 2473. SHRI DIGVIJAY SINH: Will the AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- CASTING be pleased to state: (a) the number of newspaper and periodicals registered with the Registrar of (a) the details of books or publications Newspapers of India so far; or films banned by Government since 1980; and (b) the number of newspaper and periodicals in circulation at present; (b) the ground on which these WGre banned? (c) the number of applications pending for registration with the Registrar; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (d) the number of newspapers and FORMATION AND BROADCASTING periodicals which have been registered but (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). Infor- are not in circulation; and mation ;s being collected and would be placed on the Table of the House. ~e) the steps being taken to cancel the registration of such newspapers and periodi- Allotment of MS/HSD Retail Outlets In cals in order to clear the pending applica- Bihar tions? 2474. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAT): (a) As on 31-12- (a) the number of persons who have 1987, 27,685 newspapers/periodicals were been allotted MSIHSD retail outlets in Bihar registered with the Registrar of Newspapers during 1987-88; for India. (b) the number out of them which be- (b) and (d). The number of newspapttrs long to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled and periodicals in circulation at present is not Tribes; available. However, only 5437 newspapersl periodicals submitted annual statement to (c) the criteria adopted in the selection RNI for 1987. The possibility of soma more of new locations for such retail outlets; and newspapers/periodicals in circulation can not be ruled out. (d) the criteria adopted for the reservation of particular outlets in favour of Sched- (c) As on 22. 11.1988. 1392 cases for uled Castes/Scheduled Tribes? 303 Writfen Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 304

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE isterial Committee constituted to review and MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- revise the existing central incentives RAL GAS (SHRt BRAHMA DUn): (a) and schemes for development of backward area (b). A total number of 43 Retail Outlet (MSI are still under consideration of the Govern- HSD) dealerships were allotted in the State ment. of Bihar during 1987-88; out of these, 20 Retail Outlets were allotted to persons be- Companies Registered Under Compa- longing to Schedu1ed CasteslSchedu'ed nies Act Tribes; 2476. SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: (c) Oil companies identify locations for Will the Ministerof INDUSTRY be pleased to development of Retail Outlet (MSIHSD) state: dealerships in accordance with the votume! distance norms evolved for this purpose, to (a) the total number of new companies ensure that locations so identified are eco- registered under the Companies Act during nomically viable; 1987-88;

(d) The reservations of particuJar out- {b) tnelr break-up, State-wise; lets in favour or Scheduled Castes, Sched- uled Tribes are decided on the basis of a (c) the number of companies included 100"point Roster which provides for 25 % therein in which Government hold more than reservation for Se/ST candidates in each 50 per cent of the share capital; State. The locations falling under SC/ST Reserved Parliamentary/Assembly con- (d) the number of companies whose stituencies are first earmarked for such cate- names were struck off under Section 560 of gories before operating the 1 ~O-point roster. the Companies Act;

Inter-Ministerial Committee on Develop- (e) the number of companies which ment of Backward Areas ceased to operate during the year; and

2475. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: (f) the number of existing companies as Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to on 31st March; 198B? state:

(a) whether the recommendations of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the interministerial committee for formulat- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- ing a strategy for the industrial development OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- of Backward areas have been considered by TRY (SHRI. ARUNACHALAM): (a) 17,652. Government and (b) A statement is given below. (b) if so, the decision of Government (c) 21. thereon? (d) 49.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (e) 159. Besides, there were 49 com- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- panies whose names were struck off under OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Section 560(5) of the Companies Act. my (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b). The recommendati9ns of the Inter-Min- (f) 1 .58. 138. 305 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 306

STATEMENT

StatewiS9 Distflbution of newly registered companies during 1987-88

S.No. StatelUnian Ten-itary Number of companies regist9red

1 2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 1156

2. Assam 214

3. Bihar 331

4. Gujarat 967

5. Haryana 197

6. Himachal Pradesh 127

7. Jammu & Kashmir 92

8. Karnataka 710

9. Kerala 281

10. Madhya Pradesh 591

11. Maharashtra 3813

12. Manipur 11

13. Meghalaya 7

14. Nagaland 13

15. Orissa 180

16. Punjab 519

17. Rajasthan 445

18. Tamil Nadu 1321

19. Tripura 2

20. Uttar Pradesh 834 307 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 308

1 2 3

21. West Bengal 1928

22. Andaman & Nicobar Island

23. Arunachal Pradesh 8

24. Chandigarh 181

25. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 6

26. Delhi 3535

27. Goa 96

28. Mizoram 1

29. Pondicherry 86

Grand Total 17652

Production of Telecommunication (b) Action have been initiated for attain Equipment ing self-sufficiency in the production c equipment indigenously to meet the est; 2477. DR. KRUPASINDHU 8HOI: Will mated demands. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) and (d). Latest digital electronic technology has been acquired for producin, telephone exchanges and other long di~ (a) whether efforts are being made to tance transmission equipments in the cour produce telecommunication equipment indi- try so that digital electronic equipment only I genously; inducted in the network after manufacturin of analogue and electro-mechanical e). (b) if so, when the country is expected change equipments are phased out. to become self sufficient in the matter of telecommunication equipment; Posts of A.I.R. Station Directors

(c) the technology acquited or pro- 2478. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHJ posed to be improved therefore; and Will the Minister of INFORMATION AN' BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (d) the details thereof? (a) whether the posts of Station Dirac THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tors in the AIR are open to all services in th MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI AIR set up or are reserved for only certa, GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. categories; 309 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers ~1 0 I (b) jf so, whether Government have THE MINlSTER OF STATE IN tHE received representations in this regard; and MINISTRY OF COMMUNtCATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The informs- (c) if so, Government's reaction ~ion is furnished in the statement below. thereto? (b) The proposal is to open, during THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION 1988-89, 5 branch post offices in Almora AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF district and 5 branch post offices in P3hora- PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHAI H.K.L. garh district. The post offices will be opened BHAGAT): (a) According to Recruitment at places which satisfy the norms laid down Rules notified on 23rd October, 1984, the for the purpose. posts of Station Directors (Ordinary Grade) in All India Radio/Doordarshan are filled (i) STATMENT 75% by promotion failing which by direct recruitment and (ii) 25% by direct recruit- District A/mora ment. the promotion is made from Assistant Station Directors and equated categories 1 . Bhainsia Chhana with three years regular $ervice ;n the grade. Under direct recruitment, a person belong- 2. Jogeshwar ing to any service who fulfils the criteria laid down in the recruitment rules. is eligible to 3. Artola apply. 4. Merdhura (b) and (c). Government have no intention to consider any person, other than the 5. Sanna eligible categorres for promotion 10 the grade of Station Director (Ordinary Grade) in All 6. SaHkhet India Radio and Doordarshan as provided in the notified Recruitment Rules. 7. Udham Asthal

[Translation] 8. Simgarni

Opening of Branch Sub Post Offices 9. Nadaulp and Post Offices in Almora and Pithora- garh District, U.P. 10. Kuwanli

2479. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the 11. Vijorighal Ministerof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: 12. Jainal

(a) the names of places in Almora and 1-3. Jaikhan Pithorgarh districts of U.P. for which applications for opening branch post offices and sub 14. Manela post offices have been received so far; and 15. Sakukhet (b) the names of places, out of them, where branch post offices and such post 16. Galna offices are proposed to be opened in 1988- 89? 17. Loharkhet Written AnsWBrs 312 NOVEMBER 29, 1988 311 Written Answers 12. Chaukudi 18. Balta 13. Didihat 19. Chamti 14. Mangal Kat 20. Garapani 15. Churmali 21. Chaundugri 16. Mala Jhala 22. Harsila 17. Duni 23. Chhanl 18. Bisrani 24. Gularmalla Salt 19. Samkot 25. Siyarileran 20. Balatari 26. Barsini 21. Ramakmanghka 27. Kewerala 22. Mashiyar 28. Oabhra 23. Goldanda 29. Reweti 24. Bisradi District Pithoragarh 25. Deogra 1. Kamathiachod BO 26. Saira Bandoli 2. Dhari 27. Sukhida Kura 3. Molana Jakh 2S. Kanyuri 4. Sana 29. Alka Asthal 5. Shamalatal 30. Josha 6. Ganaura 31. Kutsil 7. Narsingh Danda Opening of Public Call Offices In Sukalayadi 8. Almora and Pithoragarh Districts In Uttar Pradesh 9. Pipli 2480. SHRI HAR'SH RAWAT: Wmthe Bh\ngadt 10. Minister of COMMUN ICATIONS be pleased to state: 11. Vaila 313 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 314

(a) the number of applications received in operation in the hilly regions of Uttar for opening Public Call Offices at various Pradesh; two more are under construction t places in Almora and Pithoragarh districts of and another three schemes have been I Uttar Pradesh; cleared by the Planning Commission. Sev.. eral other schemes are under approvallin- (b) the names of such places and vestigation. whether P.C.Os. at all these places will be opened in 1988-89; and Setting Up of Regional Office of K.V.I.C. in Pithoragarh, U.P. (c) if not the reasons thereof? 2482. SHAI HARISH RAWAT: Will the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). The (a) whether a regional office of Khadi information is being collected and will be laid and Village Industries Commission is pro- on the Table of House. posed to be opened at Pithoragarh, and a branch office at Bageshwar in Uttar Small Power Projects In Hill areas of Pradesh; and Uttar Pradesh (b) if so, the action taken in this regard? 2481. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- (a) whether any comprehensive survey OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- has been conducted to find out the possibili- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and ties of setting up small power projects in hill (b). There is no proposal at present to open areas of Uttar Pradesh; a Regional Office of Khadi and Village Indus- tries Commission at Pithoragarh and a (b) if so, the number of small power branch office at 8ageshwar in Uttar Pradesh projects proposed to be set up there; as there is already an extensive set up of Khadi and Village Industries Commission as (c) whether any scheme has been for- well as of the State Khadi and Village Indus- mulated to explore these possibilities; and tries Board to lock after the development activities of KVI sector in these areas. (d) if so, the funds earmarked and other arrangements made for this purpose? [Eng/ish]

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Waiting List for Telephone Connections DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- in Vijayanagar and Shankarapuram In TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): Bangalore City (a) to (d). A scheme for comprehensive assessment of small hydro potential in the 2483. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will country which will cover the assessment of the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be small hydro electric potential of the hill areas pleased to state: of Uttar Pradesh also, has been formulated. The studies in this regard are under progress (a) the numberof personson the waiting in the Central Electricity Authority. Twenty- list fortefephone connections in Vijayanagar three microl mini/smafl schemes are already and Shankarapuram Exchanges in Banga- 315 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 316 lore city as on October, 1988 under OYT and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Non-OYT schemes; and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI (b) the time which the entire waiting list GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The waiting list in these exchanges is Ii!

1 2 3 4

1. Vijayanagar 235 6438

2. Shankarampura.m 541 8659

(b) The entire OVT and Non OYT Spe- staff quarters at the sit3. Considering their cial is expected to be cleared in both the objection it has been decided not to have exchanges by 31.3.1990. However the en- staff quarter at that site. tire waiting list is likely to be cleared in the Eighth Plan period progressively. Expenditure on Mangalore Refinery Project Air Studio at Markara In Karnataka 2485. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will 2484. SHRI V.S_ KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- the Minister of INFORMATION AND RAL GAS be pleased to state: BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (a) the amount sanctioned by Union (a) whether Government are aware that Government in foreign exchange to be in- the site selected for the construction of AIR curred for the preparation of Techno-Eco- Studio at Markara in Karnataka is a place of nomic Feasibility Report for setting up Petro- historical importance; chemical refinery at Mangalore;

(b) if so, whetherGovernment is consid- (b) when the report is expected to be ering to change the present site in view of its ready; and historical value; and (c) the time by which the final clearance (c) if not, the reasons therefor? for implementation of the project is likely to be given? THE MINISTE:R OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE FORMATION AND BROADCASTING MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU· (SHRI H.K_L. BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) The amount sanctioned by Government of India (b) and (c). The site was selected in to be spent in foreign exchange for the consultation with the State Government for preparation of Detailed Project Report Studio, transmitter and staff quarters. The (DPR) for Mangalore Petrochemical Refin- Municipal authorities on the ground of the ery Project is 12.2 lakhs US Dollars. place being of historical importance have recently objected only to the construction of (b) The DPR is expected to be submit- 317 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8.1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 318 ted to Government of India by March. 1989. during the remaining period of the Seventh Five Year Plan; and (c) The Government clearance for proj· ect implementation is expected to be given (d) the total capacity plans of gas tur- within three months of the submission of bines fixed for the Seventh Five Year Plan? DPR. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Utilisation of Natural Gas for Electricity DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Generation TRY OF ENERGY (SHAt KALPNATH RAI): (a) At present. 4.78 MeMO of gas (excluding 2486. SHRI D.P. JAOEJA: Will the 1.5. MeMO of gas being given to the Trom- Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: bay Power Station) is being utilised annually for power generation. (a) the extent to which Government have utilised natural gas for electricity gen- (b) Gas turbine units of a total capacity eration; of 1178.5 MW have been commissioned so far. (b) the total capacity of gas turbines installed so far; (c) The following gas turbine units are expected to be com missioned during the (c) the details of expected installations remaining period of th9 Seventh Plan:-

S.No. Name of the Project Capacity (MW)

(i) Maithon Gas Turbine (Bihar) (3 x 30 MW) 90

(ii) Rokhia Gas Turbine (Tripura) (2 x 5 MW) 10 Order for two 8 MW units has been Placed instead of 5 MW units)

(iii) Ramg arh ,(Rajasthan) 3

(iv) Pampors Gas Turbine (J & K) (3 x 25 MW) 75

(v) Auraiya Gas Turbine (UP) (4 x 100 MW) 400

(vi) Anta Gas Turbine (Rajasthan) (3 x 100 MW) 300

(vii) Baramura Gas Turbine (Tripura) Unit-3 6.5

884.5

(d) While a gas turbine capacity of 620 eluded in the original programme, is also MW was programmed for commissioning likely to be commissioned during the Sev- during the Seventh Plan period. additional enth' Plan period. capacity of 956.5 MW, which was not in- 319 Wrin.n Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 320

Avoidance of Telecast of Violent by Government to take-up the work to iodise Scenes salt; and

2487. SHAI D.P. JADEJA: Will the (c) the time by which the Salt Industry Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- will become SeH-sufficient in iodising the CASTING be pleased to state: entire production of edible salt?

(a) whether careful supervision is main- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tained on the increasingly violent scenes of DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- T.V; OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The (b) if so, the steps being taken by Gov- Government has decided that the entire ernment to maintain better supervision to edible salt be iodised by 1992 in a phased avoid telecast of scenes of violence having manner. harmful effect on the youth; and (b) The followmg incentives are given (c) the details of guidelines issued in this by the Govt. fortaking up the work of iodising regard? salt-

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- i) A scheme for supply of TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- potassium/calcium iodate or such chemical FORMATION AND BROADCASTING used for iodisation of edible salt has been (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) to (c). A Code formulated. However, pending arrange- has been prescribed both for All India Radio ments for supply of potassium iodate, a and Doordarshan which interalia prohibits subsidy by way of reimbursement of the cost broadcastltelecast of programmes which of the chemical used for iodisation of salt is incite violence or anything against mainte- in operation. nance of law and order. In cOf"formity with this Code, Doordarshan previews all films, ii) Transportation of iodised programmes etc. before telecast to ensure Salt by railways from production centres to that films/programmes encouraging vio- consuming areas has been accorded priority lence, hooliganism, obscenity, extremist IS'. activities and those defaming any individual or community are not telecast. Sequences (c) The present annual installed capac- found objectionable as per the Code, are ity of the iodisation plants is suffici9nt to meet invariably deleted. the requlrpments of edible salt in the country.

Iodized Salt I.TJ. Unit at Palghat

2488. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: 2489. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to MALIK: state: SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA:

(8) whether a crash programme has Will the Minister of COMMUNICA.. been launched to iodise the entire edible salt TIONS be pleased to state: produced in the country; (a) whether the attention of Govern- (b) if so, the details of incentives given ment has been drawn to a news item cap- 321 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 322 tioned "Palghat ITI unit in the doldrum- ap- any steps to provide more news or equal to pearing in the "Indian Express· dated 6 English newspapers to Hindi news-papers November, 1988; also and if not, the reasons therefor?

(b) if so, whether it has been decided to THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- locate the production facilities for ILT ex- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- changes at the ITI's Bangalore unit; FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) and (b). No (c) if so, the reasons therefor; survey has been conducted by any agency of the Government in regard to news content (d) the effect it will have on the Palghat of newspapers. unit's size of operations which has already been engaged in the production of ITI ex- (c) The Press Information Bureau sup- changes for the last two years; and plies governmental information to all newspapers irrespective of their language. It also (e) the remedial measures proposed by provides simultaneous Hindi translation of Government to safeguard the interests of all press releases issued in English. Original the Palghat unit? Hindi features are also issued regularly.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Telecommunication System in Callcut MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI District Kerals G!RIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Indian Telephone Industries has no plans to re- 2491. SHRI MULlAPPALLY RAMA~ locate the production of digital electronic CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of COMMU- integrated local and trunk exchanges from NICATIONS be pleased to state: Palghat and will continue to manufacture these exchanges to the capacity foreseen in (a) whether any complaints have been the project. received about the working of the telecommunication system in the Calicut district, (c) to (e). Do not arise. Kerala; and

Distribution of News to Hindi and (b) if so, the steps taken by government English Newspapers to improve the system ~

2490. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH THE MINISTER OF STATEIN THE MALIK: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI SHRI PRAKASH CHANDRA: GIRIDHARGOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. Some complaints have been received regarding Will the Minister of INFORMATION & poor functioning of telephone system of BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Calicut District.

(a) whether there is less news in Hindi (b) Services were affected due to agita- newspapers in comparison to English news .. tion by a section of employees and action papers; was initiated against a selected number of agitating staff. Maintenance efforts were (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and increased, one senior officer was deputed to Calicut to deal with the complaints. The (c) whether Government contemplate situation is almost normal at present. Written Answers 324 323 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988

Telephone Connections In Cannanore, t:Jxpanslon of telephone exchanges in any of Wynad and Kasargod districts of KeraJa these districts during the current years;

2492. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- (c) if so, the details thereof; and CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of COMMU· NICATIONS be pleased to state: (d) the target fixed for giving telephone connections in these districts this year? (a) the number of applications pending for telephone connections on OYT basis in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Cannanore, Wynad and Kasargod districts, MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Kerala; GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The number of applications pending for telephone connec- (b) whether there are any schemes for tions on OYT basis are given as under:-

S.No. District Pending applications as on 31. 10.88

1. Cannanore 386

2. Wynad 73

3. "

(b) Yes, Sir. There are schemes for below. expansion of telephone exchanges in these ".stricts. (d) It IS planned to give telephone connections in these districts during the current (c) Details are given in the Statement financial year as per details given below:

S.No. District Connections to be given

1. Cannanore 2088

2. Wynad 372

3. Kasargod 598 STATEMENT

Expansion of Exchanges.

S.No. Name of Exchange Expansion by 1 2 3

1. Cannanore District Baliapattam 100 Lines.

2. Cannanore 600 lines. 325 Wrinen Answers AGRAHAYANA St 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 326

1 2 3

3. Ettikulam 10 Lines.

4. Malur 10 Lines.

5. Manakkadavu 45 Lines.

6. Munder; 45 Lines.

7. Panoor 110 Lines.

8. Peringome 20 Lines.

9. Perumpadavu 45 Lines.

10. Talipramba 200 Lines.

11. Tellicherry 1500 Lines.

12. Valakkai 45 Lines.

13. Vengad 10 Lines.

14. Therthally (New Exchange) 45 Lines.

2. Wynad District

1. Ambalavayal 45 Lines.

2. Kalpetta 300 Lines.

3. Kartikulam 45 Lines.

4. Thariode 45 Lines.

5. Vaduvanchal 10 Lines.

6. Cheeral (New Exchange) 45 Lines.

7. Koromg (New Exchange) 45 lines.

3. Kasargod District

1. Achikanam 20 lines.

2. Ambalathara 43 Lines. 327 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29,1988 Written Answers 328

1 2 3

3. Attenganam 45 Lines.

4. Balal 45 Lines.

5. Bandadka 45 Lines.

6. Beemanady 45 Lines.

7. Kuttikole 10 Lines

8. Muliyar 5 Lines

9. Nileswar 100 Lines.

10. Panathady 45 Lines

11. Trikarpur 110 Lines.

12. Uduma 110 Lines

13. Vorkady 45 Lines

Small LPG Cylinders people; and (e) if not, the action being taken against 2493. SHRI AMARSINH RATHAWA: those dealers who are in the manufacturing Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND trade of small LPG cylinders which pose a NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: great danger to the public?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether small LPG cylinders of dif- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- ferent sizes have come in the market; RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMADUTT): (a) to (d). (b) whether these cylinders are being HPC and IOC are test-marketing 5 Kg LPG supplied through gas agencies or by some cylinders in some selected areas of Goa and privata dealers; in the hill areas of Pouri Garhwal, Nainital and Dehradun in Uttar Pradesh through their (c) if these cylinders are being marketed regular distributors; by private dealers, how these are filled; (e) the Liquified Petroleum Gas (Regula- (d) whether Government propose to tion of Supply and Distribution) order, 1988 introdUce small LPG cylinders to avoid ille- has been issued by the Government to gal trade and also for the safety of the check any such malpractices. 329 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 330

Replacement of Automatic Telephone Exchange. with Electronic Exchanges THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. 2494. SHRI MOHANBHAI PATel: Will the Minister 01 COMMUNICATIONS be (b) MIs. Bengal Chemicals and Phar- pleased to state: maceuticals Ltd. is facing the problems like low productivi1y, high wage component, (a) the number of electronic telephone inadequate marketing etc. exchanges so far installed in the country; Telegraph Offices (b) whethar the e1ectronic telephone exchanges have proved more successful; 2497. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Win the and Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) if so, the steps being taken to repJace more auto telephone exchanges with elec- (a) the number of telegraph offices in tronic telephone exchanges in the country, the country as on 31 December, 1987; and particularly in Gujarat? (b) how many of them are in metrofX)li- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tan cities, distrids, towns, subdivision towns MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI and rural area, state-wise? GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Two hundred fifty-nine (main/expansion) local electronic THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE telephone exchanges have been installed in MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI the country so far. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The number of telegraph offices in the country as on 31.12. (b) Y 9S, Sir. 1987;s 35,912.

(c) Life expired and worn out electro- (b) The information is being collected mechanical telephone exchanges are pro- and will be laid on the Table of the House. gressively being replaced by electronic telephone exchanges in the country including in Manufacture of PTA and OMT Gujarat subject to availability of resources. 2498. SHRI SATYENORA NARAYAN SINHA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Bengal Chemicals and Pharmaceuticals pleased to state: Ltd. (a) whether considerable capacity has 2496. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the already been licensed for PTA and OMT Minister of INDUSTRY be ploased to state: manufacture in the country;

(a) whether the Bengal Chemicals and (b) if so, whether there is already a Pharmaceuticals Ltd. is running in loss; and surplus of these two intermediates;

(b) if so, the reasons thereof? (0) whether Indian Oil Corporation has 331 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29,1988 Written Answers 332 been asked to supply feedstock for these J. VENGAL RAO): (a) HMT presently has no units at a concessional price; proposal to diversify into the field of food processing. HMT may, however, consider (d) if so, the reasons thereof; and manufacture of machinery & equipment required by the food processing industries. (e) if not, the price of raw material supplied and the selling price of OMT and PTA? (b) Does not arise.

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (c) HMT is manufacturing mechanical J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Adequate capacity and quartz watches only which are in a price has been licensed for manufacture of OMT range different from cheap electronic and PTA having regard to projected require- watches. ments of Polyester industry. (d) Does not arise. (b) No, Sir. Gas Based Power Station in Maharash- (c) and (d). No, Sir. Does not anse. tra

2500. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: (e) The basic Naphtha price for petrochemical use is Rs. 3211.00 MT (plus duties Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to and taxes). The selling price of OMT is state: between Rs. 28.00 - Rs. 30.70 per kg. and the selling price of PTA is Rs. 32.00 per kg. (a) whether thA 13th Annual Power Survey conducted by the Central Electricity Diversion of HMT Limited in Food Authority has revealed shortage of 1100 MW Processing Industries power In Maharashtra by the end of the Seventh Plan and Will further increase by the 2499. SHRI SATYENDRA NARAYAN end of Eighth Plan; SINHA: Wilt the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) if so, where there is any proposal for setting up gas based power stations in Rai- (a) whether the HMT Limited has pro- gad, Dhule, Ratnagiri and Thane districts posed to diversify mto food processing In- based on gas struck in Bombay High South dustries; Baslen and Ratnaglri fields;

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; (c) whether there are few thermal projects in the pipeline in the State; (c) whether the watch manufacturing units of HMT Limited are facing hard compe- (d) whether the gas based power gen- tition from cheap electronic watches; and eration plants have shorter gestation periods; and (d) if so, the steps being taken to protect the interests of HMT Limited? (e) if so, whether necessary clearance will be given to the State for the development THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI of the backward Konkan Region? 333 Written Answers AGAAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 334

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Survey Report, the power position in Mahar- DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- ashtra by the end of the Seventh and the TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): Eighth Plans is anticipated as follows:- (a) to (e). According to the Thirteenth Power

Shortage by the end of the Seventh Plan Eighth Plan (1989-90) (1994-95)

Peak Demand - MW 1083 1226

Energy Requirement - MKwh 2221 2506

The gestation period of gas based The proposals could be techno-economi- power stations is normally shorter as com- cally appraised after the availability of nec- pared to conventional coal-based stations. essary inputs, such as gas and water, has In September, 1988, proposals were for- been confirmed and the requisite clearances warded by the Maharashtra State Electricity are available. Board for setting up gas-based power sta- At present. thp folloNlng 11 It::Irmal power tions at Dabhol (Ratnagiri district). ThC1kuI .-tli PIOJE:K.ts are under execution in Maharash- (Kalyan town) 0nd Ur dn lRdlgad district). tra:-

SI. No. Project/Unit No. Capacity (MW)

(/) Chandrapur 5t. III Unit-5 500 Unit-6 500

(iJ) Khaperkheda St.1 Unit-1 210 Unit-2 210

(iii) Khaperkheda 5t~1I Unit-3 210 Unit-4 210

(iv) Uran Waste Heat Unit-1 120

(v) Uran Waste Heat Unit-2 120

(VI) Trombay Extn. Unit~6 500

(vii) Western Maharashtra 500 335 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answer. 336

Allotment of LPG Distributorships In plant and from the bottling plant to the LPG Hilly Areas distributor; also wherever supplies are mad. at the extension points, from the distributor 2501. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minister point to such extension points where LPG of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS De marketing and distribution is done by the pleased to state: (a) whether special norms State Government agencies/State Govern- have been devised to facilitate allotment of ment companies, in the hill areas. LPG distributing agencies/dea!erships and LPG connections in hilly areas; Liquidation of Outstanding Dues of N.T.P.C. towards State Electricity (b) if so. the details therefor: Boards

(c) whether equalisation of consumer 2502. DR. A.K. PATEL: Willthe Minister rates between such ar9as and ptanes has of ENE8GY be pleased to state: laso been enforced; and (a) whether the World Bank has sug- (d) if so, the details thereof? gested that an Action Plan may be prepared and carried out to liquidate the outstanding THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE dues of the National Thermal Power Corpo- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- ration towards the State Electricity Boards; RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) and (b). The extension of LPG distribution in (b) if so, whether the Action ptan has various towns and cities is a continuous been prepared and carried out, jf so, the process all over the country. LPG distribu· details thereof and the results achieved so tion is being maximised in hilly and forest far; regions subject to economic viability. In the Kumaon and Garhwal regions of Uttar (c) the accumulated loss/profit in each Pradesh, State Government undertakings State Electricity Board as on date; and like Kumaon and Garhwal MandaI Vikas Nigams are marketing LPG, including in (d) the way-out suggested in the Action small towns and extension points. Similarly, Plan in such situations? in Himachal Pradesh, the State Civil Sup- plies Corporation has been authorised to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE market LPG in various hilly areas. DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAI PNATH RAI): LPG connections are also being re- (a) Yes, Sir. leased in such areas expeditiously to clear the waiting lists. (b) to (d). As per the Action Plan prepared by the National Thermal Power Cor- (c) and (d). Under a scheme introduced poration (NTPC), the State Governmentsl with effect from 16.6.1988, no freight is being State Electricity Boards have been advised charged on LPG for domestic use for sup- to open/enhance Letters of Credit with a plies in the identified hilly areas on the trans- view to gradually liquidating the arrears. The portation from the refinery to the bottling total outstanding dues of the NTPC at the 337 Wrinen Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 338 end of October, 1988 stood at aboyt Rs. 452 cumulative surplus/deficit position in the crores, as compared to about Rs. 458 crores various State Electricity Boards is given at the end of September, 1988. below. A Statement indicating the provisional STATEMENT

Cumu/ati'/9 Surplus/Dsficit (Rs. in crorBs) ( Provisiona~

51. No. SEBs As on 31.3.87 During 1987-88 As on 31.3.88

1 2 3 4 5

1. Andhra Pradesh 126.60 37.90 166.50

2. Bihar - 295.00 -73.53 -368.53

3. Gujarat 75.20 34.83 110.03

4. Haryana - 444.30 -163.56 - 607.86

5. Himachal Pradesh -112.70 -16.62 -129.32

S. Karnataka 106.40 - 86.10 20.30

7. Kerala 20.00 6.80 26.80

8. Madhya Pradesh 97.10 64.40 161.50

9. Maharashtra -24.20 73.12 48.92

10. Orissa - 88.30 - 21.30 -109.60

11. Punjab -122.30 -12.60 - 134.90

12. Rajasthan - 223.20 -17.70 -240.90

13. Tamil Nadu 215.10 33.10 248.20

14. Uttar Pradesh - 646.50 129.70 - 516.80

15. West Bengal - 271.60 6.60 - 265.00 339 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 340

1 2 3 4 5

16. Assam -322.70 -17.20 -339.90

17. Meghalaya -29.00 2.40 -26.60

TOTAL -1937.40 - 84.20 - 2021.60

Negative figures indicates Loss/Deficit. IDC capitalised in the years 1987-88.

Collaboration Agreements by Bharat (c) BHEL has received only 7 export or- Heavy Electricals Limited ders through agents out of the total 83 export orders received since January, 1985 till 2503. DR. A.K. PATEL: Will the Minister of October, 1988. The total value of 83 export INDUSTRY be pleased to state: orders is Rs. 110 crores approximatery. The agency commissions paid/agreed to be paid (a) the salient features of collaboration are as per the guidelines of Government of agreements entered into by the Bharat India/Reserve Bank of India. The majority of Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL) with for- export orders are underexecution. so it is not eign companies through Indian agents; possible to work out profitJ1oss at this stage.

(b) the fees/commissions paid/being paid [ TranslatIon] to these parties by the foreign collaboratorsl BHEL in each of the last three years and the Bonus to Daily Wage Workers current year; and 2504. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRI- (c) the details of export ordf..Hs received by PATHI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- the BHEL through its Indian/foreign agents TIONS be pleased to state: since 1985 along with details of commissions paid by the BHEL in Indian rupees and (a) whother daily wage workers in the foreign exchange to them, year of contract Departments of Posts and Telecommunica- and the profitlloss incurred thereon? ti~ns are being paid equal wages like regular employees on the basis of equal wages for equal work; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) BHEL has noi entered (b) if so, whether these workers have into any collaboration agreement with for- made a demand for bonus on the basis of eign companies through Indian agents as said equality; and BHEL deals directly with the foreign compd- ni8s. (c) if so, the time by which they are likely to be given bonus and if not, the reasons (b) Does not arise. therefor? 341 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 342

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) CAL has been earning profits for the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI last three years. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Daily wage workers are being paid wages on the basis of Cable Video System the minimum pay in the pay scale of regularly employed workers in the corresponding 2506. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the cadre plus DA and ADA as admissible under Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- the rule. CASTING be pleased to state the steps beinQ taken for the growth of cable video (b) and (c). The casual labourers who system? have worked for 240 days for each year for three years or more are eligible for adhoc THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- payment. The amount is payable on a no- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- tional monthly wage of Rs. 3001-. Some FORMATION AND BROADCASTING demands have been received for payment (SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAT) This Ministry has no on the basis of actual wages paid to them. proposal for the growth of cable video sys- There is no proposal to make this adhoc tem. payment on actual wages as they are not comparable with regular employees of the Wind Power Generation In GuJarat, Department. Karnataka and Ttimll Nadu

2507. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGA- [English] LAM: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: Expansion of Cochln Refineries (a) whether wind power generation has 2505. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the made progr.ess in Gujarat; Karnataka and Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Tamil Nadu; GAS be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details of machines in- (a) what are the expansion 'program- stalled, power generated and investments mes of eochin Oil Refinery; and made, State-wist:f;

(b) whether Cochin Oil Refinery is running at loss or profit for the last three years? (c) whether the Karnataka Financial and Industrial Development Corporation, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Bangalore has invested heavily in wind MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- power generation; and RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) As part of their long term perspective plans (d) if so, the details of progress made by Cochin Refineries Ltd. have certain propos- it? als for expanding the capacity of the refinery from 4.5 to 6.0 MTPA and also to enter into THE MINISTER OF ENERGV (SHRI the field of Petrochemicals. VASANT SATHE): (a) Yes, Sir. Written Answers 344 343 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988

(b) Details of the State-wise wind farms, power generated and approximate expendi- capacity, number of machines installed, ture are given below:

State Sites Total No. of Units Approximate Capacity Machines Generated Cost

and I lnit size (MWJ (I ikh kwIJ) (Rs. in /akh)

1. Gujarat Mandvi 1.1 2 ~ ',10 KW 49 180 14 x 55KW 3 x 22.5 KW

Okhla 0.55 10 x 55 KW 33 80

2. Tamil Nadu Tutlcorin 1.1 20 x 55 KW 33 180

Kayathar 1.35 15 x 90 KW 19 200

3. Karnataka Talcauvery 0.55 5 x 110 KW 90

(c) and (d). Karnataka Industrial Invest- (a) whether some State Governments ment & Development Corporation Ltd., is Im- hr.:.. ve asked for the revision of royalty on plementing the wind farm project in Karna- production of crude oil and gas; taka in association with Karnataka State FI- nancial Corporation. Karnataka Electricity (b) if so, whether Union Government Board, Karnataka Industrial Area Develop- have examined the entire matter of royalty ment Board and Karnataka Power Corpora- payable to these State Government; tion. The Department of Non-Conventional Energy Sources has sponsored and pro- (c) if so, the outcome thereof; and vided a grant of Rs. 60.5lakhs for the project. The State agencies have contributed As. (d) its impact on the price structure of oil 5.00 lakh each towards local works for the and oil products project. One machine has been commis- s:oned, two more are under commissioning THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and the remaining two are under erection. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU· RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUTT): (a)Yes, Sir. RoyaHy on Crude Oil and Gas to States (b) to (d). The outcome of such exami· 2509. DR. S.L. SHAILESH: Will the nation and its impact on the price structure Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL would be known only after the next review is GAS be pleased to state: compieted. 345 Wrltt9n Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Writtsn Answers 346

Laying of Gas Pipeline through Bangla- (b) Some oftha short term and long term desh steps being taken/proposed to be taken by OIL to increase production from its ageing 2510. SHAI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: Nahorkatiya and Moran oil fields are: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: 1. Short term measures

(a) whether Government have explored (i) Optimisation/augmentation of the possibilities of laying as gas pipeline via surface handling systems re- Bangladesh for commercially tapping the lated to gas compression, water abundant gas deposits in Tripura; handling treatment and its disposal, artificial lifting and well (b) if so, whether Government have servicing. taken up the matter with the Bangladesh Government and the results of the negotia- (ii) Production from some of the tions; and step out wells with the help of early production system. (c) if not, the stage at which the matter stands at present? (iii) Adoption of new techniques of well stimulation, artificial lifting THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE and well servicing. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) to (c). The Government is exploring the possibili- (iv) Prioritisation of work over ties of transporting natural gas from Tripura operations and additional work via Bangladesh by pipeline. However, this over rig operations through Man matter has not been raised so far with the Management Services. Bangladesh Government. II. Long-term measures Production of Oil from Nahorkotlya and Moran Ollflelds (i) A detailed reservoir engineering 2511. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: consultancy study is proposed to Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND be undertaken shortly with the NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: objective of improving crude oil production from ageing fields of (a) whether the Oil India Limited is tak- Nahorkatiya and Moran by im- ing any steps to increase production of oil plementing infill drilling, pres- from its ageing Nahorkotiya and Moran Oil- sure maintenance and En- fields; and hanced Oil Recovery (EOR) (b) if so, the details thereof? schemes.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (ii) Detailed Studies would be MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- undertaken shortly with the ob- RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Yes, jective of reviewing exploration Sir. strategy in Assam. 347 Wrinen Answers NOVEMBER 29,1988 Wrinen Answers 348

Pipeline from Bombay High to Hazlra Petro-chemicals under the Chairmanship of Dr. S. Ganguli, inter-alia, considered the 2512. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: question of promoting the use of alcohol as Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND a replenishable source of energy in the long- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: term perspective and recommended thatthe use of alcohol as power alcohol for blending (a) whether any final decision has been with gasoline/diesel ;s not to be favoured in taken regarding the western offshore inte- view of limited availability and low value grated development project to build addi- addition in such uses. tional oil and gas pipeline connecting Bom- bay High to Uran and Hazira; and (c) Does not arise.

(b) if so. the details thereof? Generation of Power through Solar Energy In Private Sector THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- 2514. SHRI 8HADRESWAR TANTI: RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) and Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to (b). No. Sir. Government have set up an state: expert group to study the various implications of the project. (a) whether Government propose to encourage private sector to go in for genera- Recommendations of Ganguly Commit- tion of power through solar energy with for- tee for Energy Saving eign collaborations; and

2513. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: (b) if so, the details thereof? Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) The Government has (a) whether the Ganguly Committee so far not received any specific proposal had made any recommendations for saving from Private Sector for power generation energy; through solar energy with foreign collaborations. Government would consider any such (b) if so, the main recommendations proposal on its merits on case to case basis thereof; and keeping in view the general policy of encouraging use of renewable sources of energy as (c) the action taken by Government well as encouraging indigenous technology_ thereon? (b) D09s not arise. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY: (a) and (b). The Commit- Transmission Losses In Power Sector te. on "Optimum utilization of Molasses and Chemicals produced from Industrial Alco- 2515. SHRI PRAKASH V. PATIL: Will har set up by the Oeptt. of Chemicals and the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 349 Written Answers AGRAHAVANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 350

(a) whether the transmission losses in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the power sector has been mounting con- DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- tinuously; TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (a) and (b). The percentage transmission (b) the percentage loss during Fifth, and distribution losses during the terminal Sixth and Seventh Plans; and years of the Fifth and the Sixth Plans and (c) the reasons why efforts have failed during the firsttwo years of Seventh Plan are to yield desired results? given below:-

Year Percentage transmission and distribution losses

Terminal year Rfth Plan 21.440/0

Terminal year Sixth Plan

Seventh Plan

1985-86

1986-87 21.500/0

It may thus be seen that the transmis- iv) Too many transformation sion losses on an all India average basis stages, resulting in higher com- have hovered around 21.50/0. ponent of transformer losses. v) Pilferage and theft of energy. (c) The high transmission and distribution losses in the oountry are primarily due to Financial constraints are the main bot- the following factors:- tleneck in improving the distribution systems to the desired extent. However, the State I) Weak and inadequate sub- Electricity BoardlEledricity Departments transmission and distribution have initiated action to identify the high ar- systems. eas of losses in their systems and preparation of system improvement schemes and ii) low power fador operation due their implementation in order to achieve to inadequate reactive compen- reduction in the losses. sation in the system. Production of Drugs from Intermediate! iii) Large scale rural electrification Penultimate Stag•• programme undertaken in the 2516. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TAI- country resulting in long rural lines and low power factor in PATHI: Wilt the Minister of INDUSTRY be many areas. pleased to state: 351 Wlltten Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Wrltlen Answers 352

(a) the names of the drugs which are (b) if so. the reasons due to which the being produced in the country from interme· proposal could not be materialised; and diate/penultimate stages and since when each is being produced; (c) when Government propose to telecast the remaining part of 'Ramayan' serial. (b) the foreign exchange out go per Kg in the production of each drug and what is the THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- notified price of each; and TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (c) the elF and tanded price of each per (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) No, Sir. unit? (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Several drugs such as (c) The remaining part of the serial Ethambutol, Rifampicin, Pyrazinamide, 'Ramayan' is scheduled to be telecast from Choloroquine, Amodiaquine, etc. are being December 9, 1 988. produced from intermediate/penultimate stages since several years. Completion of HBJ Gas Pipeline Project

(b) Such "details of foreign exchange out 2518. SHRr RANJIT SINGH go are not monitored by this Ministry. Prices GAEKWAD: Will the Minister of PETRO- of drugs are fixed from time to time under the LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to provisions of opeo. Since the number of state: drugs and the units producing them are numberous. tima and labour involved in (a) the details of the estimated ex- collection and compilation of data will not be penses, time schedule for completion and commensurate with the results likely to be benefits to be derived by the Oil and Natural achieved. Gas Commission on laying the Hazira- Bijaipur-Jagdishpur gas pipeline; (c) Details of imports of drugs such as quantity and c.Lf. prices are published in the (b) whether the HBJ Pipeline Project is Monthly Statistics for Foreign Trade in India likely to be completed without any cost esca- Vol. II, copies of which are available in the lation and also without any extension in time- Parliament Library. schedule; and

T. V. Serial 'Ramayan' (c) if not, the reasons thereof and the details of additIonal funds and time required 2517. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will for completion of the project? the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU· (a) whether there was a proposal to re- RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) The start 'Ramayan' serial (Love-Kush Kand) in approved cost estimate of the HBJ Pipeline October. 1988; Project which is being implemented by Gas 353 Written'AnsWBrs AGRAHAYANA 8. 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 354

Authority of India Limited is Rs. 1700.17 (8) the cumulative oil production in the cror8$. The pipeline is scheduled to be country and fieldwise oil production in completed by July 1989. The pipeline would Gujarat likely to be achieved during 1988 mainly supply gas as feedstocklfuel to the against the production in 1987; designated fertilizer plants and power projects and would lead to production of fertiliz- (b)1he quantity likely to be imported and ers and generation of power. In addition. import bill during 1988 against similar im- LPG would also be extracted from the gas to ports and import bill in 1987; and be transported through the pipeline. (c) the international value of the oil (b) and (c). No extension of tima sched- produced from Gujarat oil fields and royalty ule is envisaged as regards supply of gas being paid to at present and at what rate? through this pipeline to the committed customers. There may be some small escala- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tion of cost and the same would be known MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- when tha project is completed. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) The time and labour involved in the colledion of Import and Production of 011 information relating to cumulative field-wise oil production may not be commensurate 2519. SHRI RANJITSING GAEKWAD: with the purpose sought to be achieved. The Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND details of crude production in 1987 and 1988 NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (Jan-Oct.) are, however, as under:-

Year/Period Crude Oil Production ('000' Tonnes)

Country Gujarat

1987 30142 4845

1988* 26272 4282

·Provisional

(b) The position of crude oil imports is as under:-

Oi/lmport and Value ------.. ------Quantity Value (MMT) (Rs.lCror9s)

1987-88 18.00 3065

1988-89 17.50 2616

(Estimate) 355 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 356

(c) It is not possible to COlllpute pre- (a) whether the cement industry is fac- cisely the international value of crude oil ing great difficulty in getting supplies of coal; from Gujarat fields as it is not offered on international market. The royalty paid by (b) if so, whether the issue has been ONGC to Government of Gujarat at the rate taken up with the Department of coal; of Rs. 192 per tonnes on the quantity of crude despatched during 1987-88. was Rs. (c) whether the Department of coal has 94.43 crores. promised to supply coal to cement industry regularly and adequately; and Financial Assistance for Common Service and Facility Centre (d). if not, the alternative measures contemplated? 2521. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (a) whether Union Government have TRY (SHRr M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) As received an application from Orissa Govern- compared to the coal linkage, there have ment to provide financial assistance by the been shortfalls in the receipt of coal by the EEC for common service and facility centre cement manufacturing units. for successful implementation of a Glass and Ceramic IndUflttrial Complex ~t Jharsa- (b) The matter is constantly pursued guda in Sambalpur district Orissa; and Nith the Department of coal. The coal stock position of the cement factories is being (b) if so, the steps taken or proposed in reviewed on weekly basis and coal fields and the matter? Railways are requested to rush coal on priority basis to cement plants whose coal THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE stock position is critical. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (c) and (d). The Department of coal has TRY (SHAI M. ARUNACHALAM) :(a) Yes, assured that the coal India Limited would Sir. make every endeavour to meet the requirement of cement industry in full as per the (b) The proposal was taken up for ex- target fixed by the Planning Commission. ploring the possibility of appropriate external fUl"!ding, However, it did not meet the para- Chemicals lying In Union Carbide Plant, meters for receiving external financial assis- Bhopal tance. 2523. SHAI SRIBALLA V PANIGRAHI : SUpply of coal to cement Industry Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: 2522. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will the (a) whether chemical are still stored in Minlst.r of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Union Carbide Plant at Bhopal; 357 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Writtsn Answsrs 358

(b) jf so, the approximate quantity a massive investment on Telecommunica- stored, at present; tions during the Eighth Plan and Ninth Plan periods; (c) whether instructions have been given to the Union Carbide Indian Limited to (b) if so, the amount proposed to be take precautionary measures so that no spent during the above two plan periods; casualty takes place on account of gas leak- age; and (c) the various telecommunications development works proposed to be imple- (d) if so, the details thereof? mented during these Plan periods; and

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (d) the details thereof? J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (b)", According to available information the approximate quan- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tity of materials stored in the factory as on MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI November 4, 1988 was 290 MT. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) to (d). A draft perspective Plan for providing telephone on (c) and (d). Keeping in view the fact that demand by 2000 AD has been prepared with the UCIL plant at Bhopal has remained an estimated investment of As 19900 Cr. closed for nearly four years, an Expert Team and Rs 28000 Cr. during 8th and 9th Plan was constituted for ascertaining the present periods respectively at 1987-88. Proposals position with 'reference t~ the inventory of are to provide 50 lakhs Direct Exchange items lying in the plant. Member of the expert Lines (OEls) during the 8th Plan and 95 team have already visited Bhopal thrice and lakhs Direct Exchange Lines (DELs) during have checked the list of inventory of all the 9th Plan. materials given by UCIL as still lying in the prem ises. The team has given detailed in- Arrears due to Coal India Ltd, from structions for the removal of these materials State Electricity Boards from the plant premises. This is being monitored by the appropriate state authorities 2525. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the and representatives of Expert Teams as Minister of ENERGY be pleased to refer to expected to verify the final removal of all the re~ly given on 17 November, 1987 to these materials. Unstarred Question No. 1505 regarding arrears due to Coal India Ltd. from Ele~tricjty Boards and Steel Companies and State:

Allocation or Telecommunications (a) whether the dues of Coal India Ltd. During Eighth and Ninth Plans (ell) are mounting day by day:

2524. SHRI SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: (b) if so, the amount of its dues out- Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be standing as on 1 October, 1988; pleased to state: (c) the result of the steps take to recover (a) whether Government have planned the same from the principal defaulters: 359 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Wrinen Answers 360

(d) whether the whopping outstandings cover sale of coal from December, 1988 and have compelled the ell and its subsidiaries to arrange for liquidation of the arrears by to borrow heavily, both for working capital March, 1989 after settlement of pending and development investments, paying disputes. heavy interest; and (8) if so, the steps Government propose Setting up of Petrochemicals Projects to take to countenance the situation, particularly to enforce recovery of these mounting 2526. SHRI V. TUlSIRAM : Will the dues from the State Electricity Boards and Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: others? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether any industrial house has DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- tied up with the Soviet Union for setting up TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K.JAFFAR petrochemical projects in the country with- SHARIEF) : (a) and (b). The arrears of pay- out any foreign exchange involvement; ment due to Coal India Limited for coal supplied has been increasing over the (b) if so, the details thereof and the years. As on 1.10. 88 as informed by Coal annual production capacity of each project; India Limited., the amount due from various and consumers stood at Rs 1490.96 crores out of which Rs. 1242.71 crores was payable by (c) whether there is any proposal to set State Electricity Boards and Power utilities up such a project in Andhra Pradesh, if so, and Rs 131.13 crores by Steel companies. the details thereof and if not, the reasons therefor? (0) Steps taken by Cil to recover the outstanding dues have not yielded any sig- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHAI nificant result. It is only in the case of Steel J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (c). No such project sector that outstanding dues have come proposal has been approved by Govern- down marginally. In the case of power sec- ment thus far. tor, who is major defaulter in payment, outstanding dues could not be reduced despite Expansion of Thermal Power Station at continuous follow-up action. Talcher

(d) Non-payment of dues by State Elec- 2527. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL : tricity Boards in time have impaired the ways Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to and means position of Coal India and its state: subsidiaries. Coal India meets this situation by utilising bank credit to the extent neces- (a) the details of the expansion proposal sary by deferring payments to suppliers to of the Thermal Power Station at Talcher the extent possible and by defaul1ing on under consideration of Government; and repayment of Government loans. (b) the additional MW of power ex- <.) State Government have been re- pected to be generated on its completion? quested to direct SEBs to open Revolving Lette,. of Credit with coal companies to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 381 WrittfJIJ Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (&AKA) Written Answars 362

DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (c) the details thereof? TRY OF (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) : (a) and (b). Government have approved the pro- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRJ posal for the setting up of the Talcher Super VASANT SATHE): (a) Targets for setting up Thermal Power Project Stage-I (2 xSOO MW) of fam ily type biogas plants are fixed on an by the National Thermal Power Corporation. annual basis. State wise details are given in While the ultimate capacity is envisaged at the Statement below: about 3000 MW, there is no proposal, at present, for the expansion of the project. (b) and (c). For achieving the targets, the Government has taken a number of Setting up of Blo-Gas Plants during steps, such as provision of Central Subsidy, Seventh Plan organisation of training course of village masons and technicians in the construction 2528. SHRI RADHAKANTA DIGAL : and maintenance of biogas plants, Users Will the Minster of ENERGY be pleased to 'training courses, turn-key job fee with two state: years' free maintenance warranty period. cash incentives to promoters, repair and (a) the target set for the installation of maintenance scheme, establishment of bio-gas plants in different states during the R9giona~ Biogas Training and Development Seventh Plan; Centres, etc.. Arrangements are being made for supply of levy cement and steel on (b) the steps taken to achieve the target; priority basis. Financing institutions are also and providing loaning facilities. 363 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 384

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Indo·ltallan Collaboration MAN : Wilt the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 2529. SHRt. VAKKOM PU- RUSHOTHAMAN : Will the Minister of IN- (a) whether a Super Thermal Power DUSTRY be pleased to state; Station is proposed to be set up in the country with the Soviet assistance; (a) Whether some small scale projects have been identified for Indo-halian collabo- (b) if so, the details thereof: and ration; (c) the location identified and the ex- (b) if so, the details thereof; pected time of its commissioning?

(c) whether efforts are being made to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE identify more areas of cooperation between DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- the two countries; and TRY OF ENERGY (SHRt KALPANTH RAI) : (a) to (c). A Credit Agreement has recently (d) if so, the details thereof? been signed to set up Vindhyachal Super Thermal Power Station State II (2 x 500 MW) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE along with associated transmission lines, in DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Madhya. Pradesh, with Soviet Assistance. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- The Soviet Union has agreed to extend TRY (SHAI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (d). credit of an amount upto 400 million A UNIDO Project for plant to plant level Roubles, including credit of an amount upto cooperation between small and medium 70 million Roubles towards local expenses, industries of India and Italy has bean under- for the generation project. The construction taken. Initially this cooperation willex1end to of the Project and the associated transm is- the following areas:- sion lines and its synchronisation is expected to be completed during the Eighty i) Engineering Five Year P.lan.

ii) leather Processing. goods and Financial Assistance to Kerala for machinery, Power Projects

(iii) Food Processing and packag- 2531. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- ing. MAN : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (iv) Granits and marble. (a) whether Kerala Government has The SIDO has identified 96 Indian small sought financial assistance for setting up scale units after pre-feasibility studies, and some electrical projects in the State: the same have been posed to UNIDO and Italian Counterparts for further action. Fur- (b) if so, the details thereof; and ther elaboration of the project will depend on the success of this initial programme. (c) the response of Union Government thereto? Soviet Assistance for Supar Thermal Power Station THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- 2530. SHRI VAKKOM PURUSHOTHA- TRY Or: ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) 371 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 372

: (8) to (c). Information is being collected and Damage to AlrlTV Relay Centr•• shall be laid on the Table of the House. Studios by Hooligans

New Power Projects During Eighth Plan 2534. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK :Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 2532. SHRI BANWARI LAL_PUROHIT: BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state the details of new power projects pro- (a) the names of the AIR and TV relay posed to be set up during the Eighth Plan centres/studios damaged by hooligans and period to remove the power shortage in the or rioters during the last three years; country? (b) the nature of damage and total loss THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE caused in each case; and DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MIN IS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) (c) the steps taken to protect vital areas : The Eight Plan for the power sector has not of AIR and TV centres tn the country? yet been finalised. Tentatively it has been estimated to make a generation capacity THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- addition of 38,000 MW during the Plan pe- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- riod, but details would be known pnly after FORMATION AND BROADCASTING the Plan is finalised. (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) : (a) The places of All India Radio and Television relay centres/ studios where damage was caused by Wind Energy Programme In Goa hooligans during the last three years are as follows:- 2533. SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK• : Wil the Minister of ENERGYbe pleased to state: ALL INDIA RADIO:- Panaji (Goa), Agartala. Delhi and Bangalore. (a) the types of wind energy programmes in operation in Goa; DOORDARSHAN :- Bangalor9, Cal- cutta, Cuttack, Delhi, Hyderabad and Tri- (b) the details of capacity and perform- vandrum ance since their operation; and (b) Except at Doordarshan Kendra (c) the new wind energy programme Hyderabad. the damage caused at all other planned for Goa? All India Radio StationslTelevision relay Centres/Studio has been minor. The exact THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI cost of damage has not been computed. VASANT SATHE) : (a) and (b). Two 55 KW grid-connected wind electric generators (c). Besides issuing regular Security have been installed at Canaguinim and Circular Orders, whenever any discrepen- Farmagudi. in Goa. A wind survey project cies in the Secur~y Set-up have been no- has arso been taken up in Goa for identifying ticed, special instructions have been issued a suitable site for a wind farm project. from time to time after each incident to avoid recurrence of such incidents in future. When felt necessary, the Armed Guard contingent (c) A 500 KW demonstration wind farm have also been deployed attha Studios. The project is proposed for Goa. !ocal police authorities have also asked to 373 Wrinen Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) w,inen Answers 374

provide adequate protection to the vital in- which Kerala State Electricity Board is ob- stallations in each state where Doordarshan taining electricity and the details of units Kendrasl offices exist. Whenever advance supplied from each source? information is received about any agitation! demonstration, District Police authorities/ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE director General of Police concerned are DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- also requested to make adequate security TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) arrangements. : (a) Information about sector wise demand is not being collated. However, the overall Power Requirement In Kerala net energy requirement of Kerala during 1988-89 has been estimated at the begin- 2535. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMA- ning of the year as 6625 MU. CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) Kerala meets its requirement of power from its own hydel generation and its (a) the annual power requirement in entitlement from the Central Sector stations Kerala for the industrial and domestic sec- of Ramagundam STPS, Madras A.P.S and tors respectively ; and NLC-IJ TPS in the Southern Region. The details of units received during April-Octo- (b) the main sources of power from ber, 1988 is as under:-

Apr; - October, 1988 (Fig. in MU)

1. Hydel Generation 2487

2. Entitlement vis-a-vis actual supply from Central Sector Stations.

Entitlement Actual

1. Ramagundam 319.3 317.1

2. M.A.P.P 92.9 146.7

3. NLC-II TPS 291.9 311.9

Manufacture of Gas Cylinders (c) whether Government have received any proposal to set up more units for manu- 2536. SHRI MULLAPPALL Y RAMA- facturing gas cylinders in South India; and CHANDRAN : Will the Minister of INDUS- TRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· (a) whether the capacity of units manu- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- facturing gas cylinders in the country is suf- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) Yes, ficient to meet the annual demand; Sir.

(b) if so, the names of the units presently (b) A list of units registered with DGTD manufacturing gas cylinders: is given in the Statement below: 375 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 376

(c) and (d). No proposal for manufac~ S.No. Name of the unit tura of gas cylinders is pending for registration with DGTD. 15. Larswin Engg. (P) Ltd., Hydara- STATEMENT bad.

S.No. Name of the unit 16 larswin Appliances (P) Ltd., Hyderabad. 1. The Hyderabad Allwyn Metal Works Ltd., Hyderabad, A.P. Sahuwal Cylinders Ltd., Vlsakhapatnam. A.P. 2. Indian Gas Cylinders, Fari- dabad, Haryana. 18. Industrial Oxygen Co. Ltd., Gobindgarh, Punjab. 3. Gannon Pressure Vessels, Ltd., Bombay, Maharashtra. 19. STP Structurals (P) Ltd., Belgaon, Karnataka. 4. Universal Cylinders Ltd., Alwar, Rajasthan. 20. Punjab Gas Cylinders, Ludhi- ana. 5. Kosan Metal Products (p) Ltd., Kamleshwar, Nagpur. 21. Indian Kitchen Equipment P.Ltd., Ghaziabad. 6. Kosan Metal Products (p) Ltd, Mahaul Bombay. 22. Sahu Cylinders & Udyog P. Ltd., Tamilnadu. 7. Hindustan General Industries Ltd., Delhi. 23. Suburban Ind. Pvt. Ltd., Bhu- baneswar, Orissa. 8. Midco Containers Ltd., Ahme- dabad. 24. Gurera Gas Cylinders (P) Ltd., Faridabad. 9. BPel, Allahabad, UP. 25. Prashanth Cylinders (P) Ltd., 10. Jay Cylinders, Secunderabad. Bangalore, Karnataka. A.P. 26. Expo Gas Containers (P) Ltd., 11. Standard Cylinders, Gurgaon. Bombay, Maharashtra.

12. Apeejay Structurals (P) Ltd., 27. Nagpur Fabri Forge (P) Ltd., Burdwan, Orissa. Nagpur.

13. Muller Cylinders (P) Ltd., 8algaon. 28. Bharat Wagon & Engg. Muzzaf- farpur. 14. Hindustan Wire Industries, Fari- dabad, H aryana. 29. AVS Container, Medak, A.P. 377 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 378

Minister of ENERGY be p1eased to state: S.No. Name of ths unit (8) the names of coal mines nationalised so far; 30. Rajasthan Cylinders & Contain- ers Ltd.! Jaipur. (b) the objective of the nationalisatlOn of these coal mines; 31. Prestige Fabricators (P) Ltd., Dewas MP. (c) whether Government have a proposal to nationalise some more coal mines; 32. Bharat Brakes &b Valves, Cal- and cutta.

(d) if so, the details thereof? 33. Konark Cylinders & Containers (P) Ltd. Bhubaneswer, Orissa. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINIS- 34. Malav Metals, Dhar, MP. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K.JAFFAR SHARIEF) : (a) 214 Coking Coal Mines 35. Punkaj Gas Cylinders Ltd., mentioned in Schedule I to the Coking Coal Gazibad. Mines (Nationalisation) Act, 1972 and 711 Coal Mines mentioned in Schedule to Coal 36. Bainer Lawrie & Co. Ltd., Mines (Nationalisation) etc., 1973 were na- Mathura. tionalised in 1972 and 1973 respectively. 37. Supreme Cylinders Ltd., (b) Briefly, the major objectives for na- Bhiwadi. tionalisation of coal mines were:- 38. Mouria Udyog Ltd., New Delhi. (a) Careful exploitation of Limited Coking Coal reserves. 39. Verney Containers P. Ltd. A.P.

(b) Need for halting wasteful mining 40. Him Cylinders (P) ltd, Una, H.P. practices. 41. Sreenidhi Engg. Ltd., Hydera- (c) Improvement in standard of bad. safety in mines. 42. Tungbhadra Machinery & Tools (d) Conservation of coal reserves ltd., Kurnool. and scientific development of mines. 43. Sanmati Metals Ltd., Bhopal.

(e) To ensure adequate investment 44. AKMN Cylinders (P) Ltd. Musiri with a view to optimal utilisation P.O. Trlchy District. of coal resources consistent with the need of growing economy. Nationalised of Coal Mines (f) To alleviate the condition of workforce employed in the coal 2537. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA industry. NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR : Will the 379 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29. 1988 Written Answers 380

(c) and (d). There are no coal mines towns of Punjab? owned by private parties expect a few owned by iron and steel producing company THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE namely Tata Iron and Steel Company Lim- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- ited. At present there is no proposal to na- RAL GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) In tionalise any more coaJ mines. keeping with the policy of setting up, in a phased manner, LPG distributorships in LPG Connections In Punjab towns with a population, according to the 1981 Census, of around 20,000 and above, 2538. SHRJ KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will the oil industry has surveyed and indentified, the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- in Punjab also, locations which offer suffi- RAL GAS be pleased to state: cient potential for economically viable marketing of LPG; (a) whether an survey has been made to assess the need for DPG connections in (b) and (c). The information is given in Punjab; the statement below.

(b) if so, the demand district -wise. (d) Release of new LPG connections is (c) the number of LPG connections baing done by the oil industry a" over the sanctioned in each district so far; and country, including Punjab, in a phased manner, under its annual programme for (d) the future programme to meet the enrolment of customers, subject to augmen- demand particularly in districts and tahsil tation in availability of LPG. STATEMENT

Name of District Average Demand of LPG No. of connections Cylinders per day. Released.

1 2 3

Amritsar 2789 87543

Ludhiana 3338 103672

Bhatinda 834 23972

Ferozpur 527 18974

Gurdaspur 988 31299

Jalandhar 2643 76668

PatiaJa 2072 62273

Sangrur 608 17944 381 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 382

1 2 3

Faridkot 947 28223

Ropar 631 18608

Hoshiarpur 721 20820

Kapurthala 484 14046

Demand and Supply of LPG per day in Punjab. district-wise; and Cylinders in Punjab (b) the supply positior. per day of LPG cylinders in the State. district-wise?

2539. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS be pleased to state: RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (8.) and (b). The information is given in the statement (a) the total demand of LPG cylinders below

STATEMENT

Demand and Supply of LPG cylinders in Punjab.

Name of the District Present average demand Present average of LPG cylinders per day_ supply of LPG Cylinders per day.

1 2 3

Amritsar 2789 2809

Ludhiana 3338 2748

Bhatinda 834 761

Ferozpur 527 570

Gurdaspur 988 870

Jalandhar 2643 2685

Patiata 2072 1964

Sangrur 608 559 383 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 WritttNJ AnSWfHS 384

1 2 3

Faridkot 947 878

Ropar 631 612

Hoshiarpur 721 605

Kapurthala 484 491

Use of Penicillin In Drugs (a) whether Government have decided to set up AIR Station and TV Centre at Gaya 2540. SHRI KESHORAO PARDHI : Will (Bihar); the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) if so, the action taken so far in this regard; and (a) the policy of Government for permit- ting use of Penicillin as an intermediate in (c) if not, the reasons therefor? production of drugs;

(b) whether the ratio of indigenous THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Penicillin via-a- vis imported one has been TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- altered recently; and FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) : (a) to (c). Whereas (c) Hso, the reasons therefor? a low power TV transmitter is already operating at Gaya, there is no proposal to set up THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI a Radio Station there as the area is already J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) Import of Penicillin IS well served by the All India Radio Station at allowed to the manufacturers of 6 AP Afl Patna. ADCA on the basis of their actual lifting of indigenous material in the ratio of 70 (Im- ported) : 30 «indigenous). Setting up of Electronic Telephone Exchanges in Karnataka

(b) and (c). Considering the increase in demand of Penicillin G, the ration has been 2540. SHRI M.V. CHAN- changed recently. DRASEKHARA MURTHY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:

Air Statlon/TV Centre in GaY8, (a) whether there is any proposal to set Bihar. up electronic telephone exchanges in Kar- nataka;

2541. SHRI RAMSWAROOP RAM: (b) if SO, the details thereof; and WifJ the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (c) when the said exchanged will be set 385 WrinBn Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answel'S 388 up and start fundioning? GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) Yes, Sir.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) and (c). Details are furnished in the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI Statement below: .. 387 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 388

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Functioning of Petrol/DI.sel Pumps (a) whether there is a long waiting list for telephone connections, in Janakpuri, New 2543. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TAI- Delhi: PATHI : Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (b) whether Government propose to add about 10,000 lines to the existing tele- (a) the number of petrol pumps/diesel phone exchange of Janakpuri, New Delhi; pumps with their locations sanctioned in 1986-87 and 1987-88 and the number out of (c) if so, the reasons for the delay; and them which are not operative and functional; and (d) the time by which these additionaf lines are expected to be added to Janakpuri (b) the steps being taken to make them Telephone Exchange? functional at the earliest? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) There are RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT) : (a) 9.932 applicants waiting for telephone con- During the years 1986-87 and 1987-88, oil nections in Janakpuri exchange area as on companies had issued Letters of Intent of 1.11. 1988. Retail outlets (Petrol/Diesel) for a total numberof 778 locations in the country out of (b) Yes, Sir. which Retails Outlets at 311 locations have yet to be commissioned. (c) The delay is dueto non-availability of equipment. The effort involved in compiling the particulars in respect of all the 778 locations (d) subject to receipt of equipment, the would not be commensurate with the pur- additional lines in Janakpuri are likely to be pose sought to be served; added by December, 1989.

(b) With a view to providing for expedi- Procedure for Loan From Drug Prices tious commissioning of dealerships, the Equalisation Account Letter of Intent requires the dealers select to procure a suitable site and obtain the requisite statutory and other administrative clear- 2545. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAt: Will the ances within a prescribed time; this period Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: can be extended if warranted by circumstances. The oil companies pursue these (a) the procedure for getting loan by the cases and also extend assistance wherever drug companies from the the Drug Prices necessary in this regard. Equalisation Account;

Waiting List for Telephone Connections (b) the details of the guidelines an- in Janakpurl, New Deihl. nounced for the purpose, and

l544. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRI- (c) the total amount so far recovered PATHI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- underthis fund and the amount given to drug TIONS be pleased to state: companies, company-wise? 395 Wrinen Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 396

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (c). The total amount so far recovered J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (b), No loan has under DPEA is abount As. ;1813. 74lakhs. been given to any drug companies from the The details of amount paid to drug compa- Drug Prices Equalisation Account. nies are given in the Statement below:-

STATEMENT

Sr. No. Name of the Companies Total Amount Paid (Rs).

1. MIs. Indian Drugs & Pharmaceuticals Ltd. 10,32.82.026.89

2. MIs. Hindustan Antibictics Ltd. 3,43,70,457,77

3. M/s. Jayant Vitamins Ltd., 20,24,832.00

4. MIs. 8eehringer Knoll Ltd. 27,17,729.70

5. Mis. Parke Davis Ltd. 16,73,648.90

6. Mis. Sunil Synchem Ltd. 25,50,130.00

7. MIs. Bengal Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals Ltd. 9,13,204.50

8. Mis. Alembic Chemicals Ltd. 38,24,000.60

9. MIs. Andhra Sugar Ltd. 11,95,647.00

10. MIs. Max Indian Ltd. 2,16,18,000.00

11. Mis. Pharmchem Ltd. 12,58,000.00

12. MIs. Gujarat Lyka Ltd. 38,51,000.00

17,92,86,673.76

Loan Given to Drug Companies from how many instalments, it is repayable by Drug Prices Equalisation Account both these companies;

2546. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Will the (c) the rate of interest charged on this Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: loan and when the first instalment of the loan would be due for return; and (a) whether Government have given loan to the Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuti- (d) the names of other drug companies cals Ltd., and the Hindustan Antibiotics Ltd., to whom such type of loan was given from out of the Drug Prices Equalisation Account; Drug Prices Equalisation Account and the purpose of utilisation of amount under this (b) if so, when this loan was given and in account according to the Drugs (Prices 397 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 398

Control} Order, 1979 and 1987? The project feasibility report in respect of a new site for the proposed station has not THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI been received in the CEA so far. J. VENGAL RAO): (a) No. Sir. [English] (b) and (c). Do not arise. Suggestion for Improvement of Plants (d) No durg company was given any of Indian Drugs and Pharmaceuticals loan from the Drug Prices Equalisation Ltd Account. The purposes for which the amount available in this account can be 2548. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will utilised are contained in Paragraph 17 of the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1979 and state: paragraph 14 of Drugs (Prices Control) Order, 1987 which were laid on the Table of (a) the suggestions made by he high the House. level delegation of the Indian Medical Asso~ ciation for improvement of the Indian Drugs [ Trans/ation] and Pharmaceuticals Limited's Plants at Gurgaon, Rishikesh, Hyderabad and Ma- Dohrighat Thermal Project, U.P. dras which are not able to exploit the market potential; and 2547. SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI : Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (b) the action taken by Government thereon? (a) whether a 2x210 MW Dohrighat Thermal Power project in Anamgarh District THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (HRI J. of U.P. was sent to the Central Electricity VENGAL RAO) : (a) and (b). Government Authority for approval in 1978; and have not received any such suggestions from any organisation. However, Members (b) if so, the reasons for delay in sanc- of the Indian Medical Association have vis- tioning the project? ited units of IDPL.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Manpower assessment In Coal Produc- DEPARTMENTOF POWER IN THE MINIS- tion TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) : (a) and (b). A project report for setting up of 2549. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY : Will a thermal power project (2x210 MW) at the Ministerof ENERGY be pleasedtostate: Dohright in Azamgarh district in Uttar Pradesh was forwarded to the Central Elec- (a) whether seven lakh people are tricity Authority (CEA) by the U.P. State engaged in producing 160 million tonnes of Electricity Board( UPSEB) in May, 1978. coal in India, while China produced the The scheme envisaged utilisation of coal same quantity with one third of this man- from the Singrauli Coalfields and could not power; and be processed further on account of constraints of coal supply and transportation. (b) jf so, the steps being taken to have a The UPSEB were, therefore, advised by the proper manpower assessment in coal pro~ CEA to take up the scheme at a later data. duction? 399 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 400

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE New Technology In Communications DEPARTMENT OF COAL IN THE MINJS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI C.K.JAFFAR 2550. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: SHARIEF) : (a) Authentic information re- Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be garding the number of workers employed in pleased to state: the coal industry in China IS not available. It is however, known that output per manshift (a) the target set for providing loca) in the industry in China is substantially switching, introduction of long distance higher than in India which shows that much switching, transmission and telex in different larger work force in employed in India than parts of the country during the Seventh Plan China for producing the sama amount of period; coal. (b) the achievement made in this regard so far; and (b) Proper assessment of manpower needs is a routine management function and (c) the details of the new technology a continuing process. Work Studies in se- proposed to be introduced in the field of lected mines and normative cost studies of communications during the Seventh Plan typical mines are some of the methods period? adopted for the purpose. A near ban on recruitment of personnel in non-skilled and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE semi-skilled categories has been put to MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI prevent further growth of man-power In coal GIRIDHAR GOMANGO) : (a) to (c). A state- industry. ment is given below:- 401 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 402

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Post offices In Jaunpur District. Uttar 5. Collectorats Compund, Pradesh 6. Civil Court, 2551. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be 7. Pakhtasrai, pleased to state: 8, Shankar Mandi, (a) the details of the post offices located within a radius of 2-3 kms of Jaunpur (U.P); O. Shastri Marg, and 10. Suthati Bazar, (b) the details of steps taken ~o provide Post and Telegraph service to all the villages 11. Raj College, in Jaunpur district of Uttar Pradesh? 12. Rasmandal, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 13. Puranibazar, GIRIDHAR GOMANG) : (a) There are 16 post office located within a radius of 2 to 3 14. Shitla Chaukia, kms from Jaunpur in Uttar Pradesh. The names of these post offices are furnished in 15. Jagdishpur, the statement below: 16. Muradpur, (b) Postal service is provided to all villages. New post offices are however, opened in the phased manner in villages High Powered T.V. Tower for Andhra which conform to the norms prescribed in Pradesh this respect. During 1988-89 the proposal is to open two new post offices in the district. 2552. SHRI V. TULSIRAM : Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- For telecom facilities it is provided in 64 CASTING be pleased to state: villages in 38 hexagoans. The remaining 20 hexagoans will be provided in the early part (a) whether there is any proposal under of Eight Plan. the consideration of Government to erect a high powered T.V. tower in Andhra Pradesh STATEMENT on the pattern of newly constructed T.V. tower in Delhi; Names of post offices located within 2 to 3 kms of Jaunpur in Uttar Pradesh (b) if so, the details thereof;

1. Jaunpur Head post office, (c) the time by which a final decision is likely to be taken in this regard; and 2. Umarpur, (d) if not, the reasons therefor? 3. Jaunpur Kutchery, THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 4. T.O. College. TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- 409 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Wrinen Answers 410

FORMATION AND BROADCASTING STATEMENT (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): (a) to (d). Whereas high power (10 KW) TV transmitters are RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE KELKAR operating at Hyderabad, Vijayawada and COMMITTEE Visakhapatnam and two more such trans- mittsrs at Anantapur and Tirupati are under implementation as part of the VII Plan, the It is in the long-term interest of the height of towers in all these cases is 150 country's media ind'Jstry to move away form metres as against 235 metres in respect of a highly regulatory policy regime which is the TV tower at Pitampura in Delhi. The characterised by quantitative allocations, pattern and height of the TV towers for individual retentIon pricing and import re- mounting the antennae differ from place to strictions, towards a more liberalised regime place and depend on the power rating of the based on tariffs and market determined transmitter, terrain, etc. price. The Committee is convinced that import substitution strategy based on Long Term newsprint Policy bagasse route is efficient In terms of domestic resource cost. The tariff based policy 2553. SHRI S.M. GURADDI : Will the would ensure a move toward this direction Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- thus reducing dependence on imports. The CASTING be pleased to state: Committee, therefore, recommends a two- steps policy regime, the first being in the (a) whether the Kelkar Committee on nature of transItion and the second being the long term news-print allocation policy has totally control-free tariff based region. made radical recommendations; STEP -I (b) if so, the main recommendations made by the Committee and how many of Continue the existing policy for two more them have been accepted by Government; years with following modifications:- and /) The Committee is of the view (c) the steps being taken to implement that the indIgenously produced the same.? newsprint should be consumed fully and that imports should be THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- treated only a a supplementary TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- measure. Therefore, the existing FORMATION AND BROADCASTING lim it of 300 MT of imported news- (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT) : (a) to (c). A state- print supplied to small and me- ment containing the recommendations of dium newspapers at nil or re- the Kelkar Committee is given below: duced duty be scaled down to 50 MT. This 50 MT of duty free The recommendations is Step No. I. Imports shall be extended to all lare under consideration of the Government. newspapers irrespective of the The recommendations is Step No. II relate to size of circulatIon. "Any newspa- long term policy to be formulated during the per requiring over and above 50 Eighth Five Year Plan. MT, shall be subjGct to the in- 411 HfrinenAnswem NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Written Answers 412

digenous and imported ratio. In recol"mending this measure, iii) New Newspapers or eXisting the Committee has taken note of newspapers applying for news- the fact that 50 MT would cover print for the first time, may be all small newspapers whose given an initial quota of news- average circulation is 5500 oop- print, for 6 months only (instead ies, assuming 4 standard pages. of the existing one year) subjed Therefore, the interests of the to the ceiling provided in the small papers will not be affected. policy for 1986-88. Of this initial This may also help curb the quota, maximum of 5 MT may be phenomenon of non-lifting of from imported newsprint.while domestic newsprint. the rest shall be met from indigenous sources only. iI) Any consumption of reject newsprint by the newspapers over iv) Glaze newsprint imports should and above their newsprint allo- be taken out of the allocator cation quota may be considered regime. Imports of glaze news- for excise duty exemption. This print should be permitted on may be help the newsprint mills OGL with 55% tariff. * to sell reject newsprint to parties v) The following norms may be not covered under RNI alloca- adopted for wastage compen- tions. sation:- All Newspapers 7 per cent Magazines with multi-colour printing requirement additional 1 % Stitched magazines for trimming additional 3 %

--~------vi) The norms for unsold copies and copies distributed free may be revised as under:-

Circulation (Sold copies) (whichever is less)

Upto 25,000 copies 50/0 or 1000 copies

Above 25,000 and upto 75,odb copies 5% or 2500 copies

Above 75,000 copies 5% or 500 copies ------_------vi~ Newspapers be reclassified as: Category Circulation per publishing day Small Upto 25,000 oopies

Medium Above 25,000 & upto 75,000 copies

Big Above 75,000 copies 413 Written AnsweIS AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 414

"'~ Once the entitlement are de- iii) Glazed newsprint to continue on qded by the ANI, backlog in OGL with 55% tariff in order to servicing of newsprint be ensure import substitution. avoided. iv) To promote more efficient use of STEP II. domestic resource use for newsprint production, all future ex- THE LONG-TERM POLICY pansion should be based on FRAMEWORK renewable resourse use, ensuring to the domestic producers an I) The long-Term Policy should effective rate of protection ex- be to move away from the ad- ceeding 400/0. Consequently. the ministered pricing and quantita- current duty exemption on im- tive allocation policy regime by ported pulp would have to be introducing an OGL import f acil· reviewed. ity to all newspapers with a tariff rate of 40% with decanalisa- v) Individual retention price for ticn. *.* Tariff may be calibrated domestic units to be abolished. with variation if cheap price Market-related pricing e.g. tariff every year. This policy frame- adjusted cheap price should work should ooincide with the determine the market price for first year of the Eight Plan. domestic newsprint.

ii) Small and medium newspapers VI) A separate package of incen- to be allowed to import newsprint tives should simuttan90usly be under RNI certification upto a announced for sugar mills to maximum of 50 MT tariff for free invest in bagasse-based pulp through STC. This policy of 50 mills; These are MT duty free supply to small and medium newspapers would a) Total exemption from sugar imply partial continuation of allo- levy for five years from the cator system. If Govt. can find date of commencement of some other mechanism by pulp production. which small newspapers requiring upto 50 MT are met either b) Investment decisions for 3 from imports of from domestic bagasse based plants of mills (At tariff adjusted cit prices) 1.00,000 tonne capacity to without having to operate the be taken in the next two partial allocator mechanism, the years and implemented by committee would recommend mid 8th Plan. Possible loca- this option. Hence. the Commit- tions in UP. Punjab and tee recommends that the Govt. Maharashtra. may review the working of pro- vii) Broad banding policy is recom- posed partial allocatory system manded to permit papar mills to after 2 years. "the domestic and diversify into newsprint produc- cif price differential falls below tion on the condition that they 25% the partial allocation may use bagasse route pulp atleast be diacardad. upto 75%. 415 Written Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Wriltsn AnsW9/S 416

vi;'} Continuation of excise duty ex- power capacity during the Eighth Plan pe- emption on newsprint. When- riod; ever newsprint is substituted by white printing paper. a mecha- (b) whether a numberof measures have nism should be devised to allow been initiated on several power projects e~;se exernption on par with both in the State and as well as as CentraJ newsprint. sectors during the Seventh Plan period itself. so that they could be commissioned ix) A package of incentjves to be during the next Plan Period; and given to those newsprint producing unit~ whose use bagasse (c) if so, the extent to which these pulp to the extent of 70% . These measures will yield good results and the total incentive would have to be in additional targets fixed for the same? nature of import duty exemption on consumables and mainte- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE nance spares. For CG. test & DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Control instrumentation equip- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) ment the import duty should not : (a) The target for capacity additions during exceed 30% for all newsprint the Eighth Five Year Plan has not been units. finalised so far.

x) The Ministry of I & B should (b) and (c). A number of power projects approach ICAR to explore the have been taken up during the Seventh Plan potential of kenaf (Hibicus Can· period to yield benefits during the Eighth nabis) as an alternate ~;ource of Plan period and it is expected that a capacity fibre for production of pulp and of about 7253 MW would be added from the paper products.f The earlier pilot hydro-electric projects sanctioned and on- projoc.1 undertaken by ICAR and going at the end of October, 198ft CPPR'. Dehradun in 1984 should be reviewed in order to Shortage of Pesticide provide the feedback for deter- mining the potential ofthis alter- 2555. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: nate sourCA. DR. B.L.SHAILESH:

Additional Target for Hydroelectric Will the Minister of IN DUSTRY be Power Capacity pleased to s1 ate:

2554. SHRt S.B. SIDNAL: Will the (a) whether several States are appre- Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: hensive of the prospects of Rabi crop this year because of the shortage of pesticides (a) whether Union Government have such as endoualfin dimethoate and mono· fixed the target for adding hydroelectric crotophos;

*The members reperesenting All India Sma!: & Medium Newspaper AssociationlFederation did not agree with this recomendation and desired the duty-free import limit to be raised to 100MT. The representative from ILNA desired the limit to be raised to 200MT. -Members representing ILNA and INS (in their dissent note) did not agree with this tariff rate. Mr. Gupta of IlNA felt that it would hurt small and medium magazines printed on glazed newsprint. He desired duty-free import of glazed newsprint. -The members representing INS desired this tariff rate to be 200/0 instead of 40% 417 Written Answers AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 418

(b) the major constraints in the produc- tary limit of Rs 10 crores. tion of pesticides and weedicides in the country ; and Non-extension of royalty period by Indian Companies (c) the steps proposed to be taken by Government to overcome the same? 2557. SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGA- LAM : Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI pleased to state: J. VENGAl RAO): (a) We have not received any representation from State Govt., or (a) whether Govprnment have decided other sources about likely shortages of not to extend royalty period by Indian com- these pesticides for the Aabi Crop. In fact we panies with foreign companies as reported do not apprehend any such shortages. in the IBusiness Standard' dated 3 march, 1988 under the caption "Royalty period net (b) There are no constraints in produc- to be extended" tion of pesticides including weedicides. (b) the products and firms-Indian and (c) The Govt. are continuously monitor- foreign under present royalty arrangements: ing production and availability of pesticides and are taking steps like additional licences, (c) whether Tetrepale had entered into better availability of raw materials etc. for a royalty arrangement with an Indian Gov- enhanced production of pesticides. ernment organisation in 1979 or there-after and if so, whether royalty continues to be Foreign Investment Policy paid; and

2556. DR. B.L.SHAILESH : Will the (d) whether Government propos~ to Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: inquire into the matter and fix responsibility?

(a) whether Government in a major re- - THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE laxation of its foreign investment policy have DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- decided to allow foreign equit~1 participation OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- even in the existing companies;' TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) No, Sir. (b) if so, whether any guidelines have been framed in this behalf; and (b) For reasons of confidentiality, such information is not officially divulged. (c) if so, their broad features- and the specific areas where foreign investment is (c) and (d). Information will be laid on favoured? the Table of the House after ascertaining the correct name of the company referred to in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the question. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) to (c). Study Regarding High Definition TV Foreign equity participation in an existing company may be permitted if it is upto the 2558. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- limit of 40% of the paid-up capital of the TIL : Will the Minister of INFORMATION Indian company. This is subject to a rnone- AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 419 Wrin9n Answers NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Wrillsn Answets 420

(a) whether Government are aware of a production of alcohol and alcohol basad Japanese invention called High Definition products on a large scale. Television (HDTV); and 12.00 hrs

(b) whether any study has been made [Eng/ish] or is under consideration to assess the feasibility of application of this new technique SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (Bankura) : for the benefit of television viewers in the Sir, I have given an adjournment motion country ? today. Ministers, M.l.As. and M.Ps. of Ker- ala are on dharna in the Boat Club to press THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- their long standing demands. Sir. a number TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- of projects ... FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. High MR. SPEAKER: You can do it like this. Definition Television (HOTV) is under devel- You can give me a Calling Attention, I will opment in many countries of world including look into it. Japan. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: We have (b) Doordarshan is keeping a ~Iose given an adjourment motion. watch on the emerging development in\~he field of High Definition Television. However MR. SPEAKER : No. tha! cannot be investments involved in introduction of High allowed. Definition Television being very high and a worldwide production standard not having ( Int9ffuptions) been established as yet, any early introduction of HDTV transmission in India is not PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE ( Ra- foreseen. japur) : There is a very serious move on the part of the Government to withdraw the Alcohol from Sugarcane Lokpal Bill at a time when we are making efforts to check ... 2559. SHAI BHADAESWAA TANTI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to MR. SPEAKER: When it oomes. W9 will state: discuss it.

(a) whether Government are consider- ( Interruptions) ing any plan to use sugarcane as a raw material and produce alcohol and other MR. SPEAKER: Professor. you know products; that it cannot be done without our consent. and when it comes we will discuss. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (c) if not, the reasons therefor? PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE Bm THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI why that move should be th6!'e. Sir? J. VENGAL RAO) : (a) to (c). The Govern- ment have no plans to encourage use of MR. SPEAKER: We will discuss it sugarcane as direct raw matetial for production of alcohol or any other products. How- ever, it is being used through molasses for ( IntsmJptions) 421 Written Answers AGRAHAVANA 8.1910 (SAKA) Written Answers 422

SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN SHAt INDRAJIT GUPTA (8asirhat): It (Badagara) Sir. From Scandinavia to Spain should be one of the subjects under consid- we are discussing every issue. There is a eration for discussion. , small part of India called Kerala. Would you be kind enough to give us an opportunity to MR. SPEAKER: I have got no problem, discuss it. .. I have already admitted it.

MR. SPEAKER: I have already told him ( Interruptions) that we will discuss it. No problem. I have told him, we will discuss it but give me another MR. SPEAKER : I will call a meeting motion. tomorrow and we can discuss it.

( Interruptions) SHRt tNDRAJIT GUPTA: On Pepsi Cola, Sir. the other day you yourself said you MR. SPEAKER: Calling Attention you wanted a discussion. give me, t will see. MR. SPEAKER: 1don't bar any discus- SHAI THAMPAN THOMAS (Mav- sian. elikara) : Sir,l have given a motion on that. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: On Punjab SHRt SURESH KURUP (Kottayam) : I also we wanted a discussion. have given notice, Sir. All of us have given notice. MR SPEAKER: We will meettomorrow.

(Interruptions) SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY bour) You must find time to discuss Pepsi (Mahbubnagar) : Sir. We have given notices Cola. on the question of Pepsi Cola. MR. SPEAKER: Tomorrow I am calling MR. SPEAKER: We will find time. a Meeting of the Business Advisory Commit- tee and we will find out. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: That discussion is being scuttled, Sir. I do not know why SHRI T. BASHEER (Chirayinkil) : Sir, I the BAC is not allowing time. have given a privilege notice against the police regarding manhandling of Mr. Vijayar- MR. SPEAKER: You can come to BAC aghavan. and we will find out.

(Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER :·1 am asking for the report, let the report come. MR. SPEA~ER : You come on and find time, 1have got on problem. Now, Paper to be laid - Shri Vengal Rao SHRI 5.JAIPAL REDDY : I t should be dona in the current Session. 423 Papers Laid NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Papers Laid 424

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE (b) (i) Review by the Govern- ment on the working of the [English] Hindustan Antibiotics limited, Pune, for the year Report of CAG of India-Union Govern- 1987-88. ment (Commercial) Part VIIMReview on and Annual Report of Smith Stanistreet (ii) Annual Report of the Pharmaceuticals Ltd., Calcutta, and of Hindustan Antibiotics lim- Hindustan Antibiotics Ltd, Pune for ited, Puna, for the year 1987-88. 1987-88 along with Audited Accounts and the com- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI ments of the Comptroller J. VENGAL RAO) : , beg to lay on the Table. and ·Auditor General thereon. [Placed in Library, (1) A copy of the Report (Hindi and See No L T-6799/88]. English versions) of the Comp- troller and Auditor General of India for the year 1987-88 Union Annual Report and Annual Accounts of Government (Commercial) - and Review on Television Institute of Part VII - Resume of the Com- India, Puna for 1987.. 88 pany Auditors' Reports and comments on Accounts of Gov- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ernment Companies, under ar- MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND ticles 151 (I) of the Constitution [ BROADCASTING (SHRI S. KRISHNA Placed in Library See No. LT- KUMAR): On behalf of Shri H.K.L. Bhagat, I 6797/88] beg to lay on the table:-

(2) A copy each of the following (i) (i) A cOPy'of the Annual Report papers (Hindi and English ver- (Hindi and English versions) of sions) under sUb-section (1) of the Film and Television Institute section 619A of the Companies of India, Puna, for the year 1987- Act, 1956:- 88.

(a) (i) Review by the Govern- (ii) A copy of the Annual Accounts ment on the working of the (Hindi and English versions) of Smith Stanistreet Pharma- the Film and Television Institute ceuticals Limited, Calcutta, of India, Puna, for the year 1987- for the year 1987-88. 88 together with Audit Report thereon. (ii) Annual Report of the Smith Stanistreet Pharma- ceuticals Limited, Calcutta, (iii) A copy of the Review (Hindi and for the year 1987-88 along English versions) by the Govern- with Audited Accounts and ment on the working of the Film the comments of the Comp- and Television Institute of India, troller and Auditor General Pune, for the year 1987-88. thereon [ Placed in Library I [Placed in Library. See No. LT- See NO LT -6798/88] 6800/88] 425 Psp9rs Laid AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Suppl. D.G. 426 (Tamil Nadu), 1988-89

Statement Re result of Market Loans Andaman and Nlcobar Islands Khadl Floated In November, 1988 and Village Industries Board Regula- tlon, 1988 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): On behalf of Shri M. EDUARDO FALEIRO): I beg to lay on the Arunachalam, , beg to lay on the Table a Table a statement (Hindi and English ver· copy of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands sions) indicating the result of market loans Khadi and Village Industries Board Regula- floated in November, 1988. [Placed in tion, 1988 (Hindi and English versions) Library. See No. LT-6801/88] published in Gazette of India dated the 27th June, 1988, promulgated undar Article 240 Indian Telegraph (Tenth Amendment), of the Constitution. Indian Telegraph (Twelfth Amendment) and Indian Telegraph (Ninth Amend- ment) Rules, 1988 12.04 hrs.

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- SUPPLEMENTARY DEMANDS FOR TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): On GRANTS (TAMIL NADU), 1988-89 behalf of Shri Giridhar Gomango, I beg to lay on the Table a copy each of the following [English] Notifications (Hindi and English versions) under sub-section (5) of section 7 of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Indian Telegraph Act, 1885:- DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC AFFAIRS IN THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO): Sir, I present a (i) The Indian Telegraph (Tenth statement (Hindi and English versions. Amendment) Rules, 1988 pub- showing the Supplementary Demands for lished in Notification No. G.S.R. Grants in respect of the State of Tamil Nadu 907 (E) in Gazette of India dated for 1988-89. the 7th September, 1988. [English]

(ii) The Indian Telegraph (Twelfth ( Interruptions) Amendment) Rules, 1988, puo- lished in Notification No. G.S.R. MR. SPEAKER: What is the problem? 1054 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 2nd November, 1988. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY (Katwa): You please listen. I have given a motion under Rule 184. The content in this, (iii) The Indian Telegraph (Ninth Sir, in view of the fresh revelations of the Amendment) Rules, 1988 pub- payment of commission in Bofors deal...... lished in Notification No. G.S.R. 888 (E) in Gazette of India dated MR. SPEAKER: No, Disallowed. the 1 st September, 1988. ( Interruptions) [Placed in Library. See No. LT- MR. SPEAKER: Disallowed, finished. 6803/88] . ( Inte"uptionst

·Not recorded.*Not recorded. 427 Suppl. D.G. NOVEMBER 29, 1988 (Tamil Nadu), 1988-89 428

MR. SPEAKER: I have said 'disal- Yes, Mr. Shanti Dhariwal, you call the lowed'. Nothing goes on record, whatever attention of the Minister. the hen. Member says. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (8ankura): ( Interruptions)· All the names are from the ruling Party.

SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati): MR. SPEAKER: It is not my fault. It is the We have given notice of a Calling Attention ballot. motion. A peculiar disease has come in Assam because of which agricultural prod- SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: ucts and fishes completely die. Why don't you take it under rule 193?

SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har- MR. SPEAKER: There is no problem. bour): The whole Eastern India is affected. The only problem is time. West Bengal is also affected. SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARY: MR. SPEAKER: If you can find time, I Why don't you extend the House in that have got no proble m. case.

SHRI AMAL DATTA: You know, fish is MR. SPEAKER: That is not in my a very important item. power. If you want to extend the House. I will bethe happiest person. You extend it as long MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Amal Datta, you as you like. I have got no problem. know I have got no problem In discussing it. Mr. Shanti Dhariwal. SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI (Guwahati): Please admit our Calling Attention. (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: Now, Calling Attention 12.06 hrs. - Shri Shanti Dhariwal. [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair) SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE (Panskura): Sir, I request you to convert this Calling Attention into a discussion under SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: It is a na- Rule 193. tional problem. We want to participate in it. You please convert the call-attention into a MR. SPEAKER: Madam, I have no discussion under rule 193. problem in converting it, but the question is only of time. Otherwise there is no problem MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Whatever with me. the Speaker has said, I cannot go back. The Speaker has already refused. What can I ( Interruptions) do? He has already said it.

MR. SPEAKER: The problem is only ( Interruptions) time. We are already handling other subjects. You had all given notices and I just MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Shri Shanti balloted. Dharival.

·Not recorded. 429 call An8l1tion reo AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) on women 430 Rep. AtfOCities

12.6 1/2 hrs. forcement apparatus in the States have been sought to be strengthened with provi- CALLING ATTENTION TO MAneR OF sions for Dowry Prohibition Officers, Traf- URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE ficking Police, Special Courts etc. Greater involvement of women police, and of women [ Translation] social workers has been provided for at the investigation stage. The Cr. P.C. amend- Reported Atrocities on Women In ment makes it mandatory for a magistrate to different parts of the Country and steps conduct an inquest in the case of death of a taken by Government in that regard married women under suspicious circumstances within 7 years of marriage. The SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL (Kota): Mr. courts have been empowered to raise a Deputy Speaker, Sir, I call the attention of presumption of quilt against the accused in the hon. Minister to the following matter of case of cruelty or dowry harassment and in urgent public importance and request that cases of abetment of suicide and dowry he may make a statement thereon: death. The Court has also been empowered to presume that a women did not consent to -Reported atrocities on women in differ- rape, if she makes a statement to this effect. ent parts of the country and steps taken by the Government in that regard." The new En&ctments were brought on the statute book recently namely the Inde- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE cent Representation of Women (Prohibition) DEPARTMENTS OF YOUTH AFFAIRS Act 1986 and the Commission of Sat; (Pre- AND SPORTS AND WOMEN AND CHILD vention) Act 1987. The former aims at pro- DEVELOPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF hibiting the portrayals of women which are HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT indecent, derogatory and denigrating, (SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA): Sir. Gov- through books, pamphlets, advertisements ernment view with great concern the inci- etc. The later aims at preventing the dence of atrocities on women in different Commission of glorification of SatL I fully parts of the country and has taken a number share with the Han. Members their concern of steps in areas such as legislation, educa- at the revival of certain practices which are tion, awareness generation. legal literacy. not only inimical to the progress of women counselling, legal aid, enforcement, support but also constitute crimes against humanity. to voluntary agencies. publicity campaigns For this reason, offences such as abetment etc. of the Commission of Sati, abetment of at- tempt to commit Sati, glorification of Sati etc. Members are aware that a number of attract exemplary punishment in the new amendments have been made in the Dowry legislation. In order to build up a healthy Prohibition Act, the Immoral Traffic Preven- public opinion and to set standards of public tion Act. the Indian Evidence Act, the Indian life, we have made provisions for disqualifi- Penal Code and the Criminal Procedure cation of individuals under the Representa- Code, to make them more effective. In cer- tion of People's Act 1951 , in case they have tain cases, punishment for offences has been convicted of Sati offences, and glorifi- been enhanced. A new offence of dowry cation has been deemed to be a corrupt death has been introduced in the Indian practice under the aforesaid Act. We have Penal Code. The burden of proof has been also given wide powers to the local admini- shifted to the accused, in case of cruelty to stration to remove temples and other struc- married women. dowry death etc. The en- ture put up for the glorification of Sati. The 431 CaN Attention re. NOVEMBER 29, 1988 on women 432 Rep. Atrocities

(Shrimati Margaret Alva] and research wcrk. Assistance is also'made collection of funds for the construction of available to Universities and institutions of temples for this purpose is also punishable higher learning for education and extension under the Act. work relating to the status of women. Activi· ties such as holding of seminars and work- Honourable Members are aware, that shops, legal literacy camps/classes, training the responsibility to maintain law and order camps for social workers in para legal mat- in the country rests squarely with the State ters, counselling centres for women, using of Governments. To ensure this, the Ministry of media, both traditional and modern for rais- Home Affairs has issued detailed instruc- ing awareness etc. are funded by the Gov- tions to the State Governments about the ernment. Awareness Generation Camps for various steps to be taken to combat crimes rural and poor women are held to identify and atrocities against women. According to problems and also to raise the collecting these instructions, all cases of attempted bargaining power of women and to encour- suicide or death in suspicious circum- age local community leadership amongst stances of young married women, during the them. Family Counselling Centres and vol- first seven years of their married life have to untary Action Bureaus are also in position at be investigated by officers not below the various places in the country to provide rank of Deputy Supdt. of Police. Where a preventive and rehabilitation services in postmortem is to be done, a team of t\NO matters relating to property. matrimony. doctors have to be present. The dead body custoc. y, etc. Coordination with agAncies to cannot be disposed of without a post- provide legal aid and psychiatric help is also mortem except with the permission of the effected. police and the .Police have been instructed not to allow this unless the body has been A number of steps have been taken by seen by the parents or guardian~ or close Government in the last few years to raise the relations of the women. I have also recently status of our women, as this is closely con- written to the Chief Ministers of the States nected with their vulnerability to social op- and the Chief Administrators of Union Terri- pression. Girls' Education, for example, upto tories requesting them to gear up the ma- the higher secondary stages, has been chinery under these Acts and to ensure that made free throughout the country. The new proper training IS given to those belonging to education policy focuses on education as 3n the enforcement machinery. agent for bringing about women's equality and emphasises the removal of sex stereo- I am fully aware that legal provisions typing and gender discrimination. Govern- and enforcement have only a limited scope ment has also directed that 30% of IRDP in the area of social crimes and specially beneficiaries should be women in rural ar- crimes against women. The empowerment eas and a programme called the DevelOp- of women. specially those belonging to the ment of Women & Children in the Rural less privileged classes, through education Areas (DWACRA) has been designed exclu- and knowledge is equally important so that sively for women below the poverty line. To women have better access to legal machin- ensure that women have access to produc- ery as well as various other supportive tive resources, Tree pattas, surplus land etc. mechanisms of the Government. The Gov· are to be granted in the name of both hus- ernment provides financial assistance to band and wife. State Governments are also organisations working for women to carry being encouraged to Set up Women's De- out the education work for prevention of such velopments Corporations so as to facilitate atrocities, through propaganda, pUblicity the identification of women entrepreneurs 433 Call Attention '9. AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) on women 434 Rep. Atrocities taking up production of viable items, credit, like to cite a few instances before you and training and marketing facilities etc. Many through you, I would like to get a reply from more measures have been suggested in the the han. Minister. The grand daughter in law National Perspective Plan presented to of the Chief Minister of Haryana, hone Dev; Government recently. Lal died all of a sudden on 11 November. There are different versions, some says it Han. Members will thus see that Gov- was an accident, some says it was a murder ernment is taking concerted steps to ensure while some other says that it was a case of that the disparties in opportunities and facili- suicide .... ties available to women are reduced and that they are made equal partners in social, SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN economic, political and cultural develop- (Etah): Were you present there? ment. Women themselves have, however, to assume a major role in improving their SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: You were status and preventing social evils and atroci- also not present there. Brother, just listen to ties against them. me.

[ Translation] [English] • SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Mr. Deputy MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, argu- Speaker, Sir, when a woman leaves her ments. Mr. Shant; Dhariwal, don't argue. If paternal house and goes to her father-in- you want to convey anything, you address law's, she fully shares the sorrows and suf- the chair. ferings of that household and remains tried up with them. But the human intention is [ Translation] such that he cannot take proper care of things which are very important in his 1ife. If SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: The Senior the entire society suffers from this malady, Superintendent of Police, Sirsa, the father- nobody knows what will be its conse- in-law of the girl, Shri Om Prakash Chautla, quences for the country. This will take the the father of the girl, Shri Ramchandraji country on the verge of disaster. If at all we Matoria and her husband, Shri Abhay Singh want to save the country from this evil, we give conflicting statement$ about the inci- have to fight it out. If the present practice dent. The statements of the domestic ser- continues for more days, the country will vant, Shri Durga Singh and the elder brother- naver see better days. It is, therefore, neces- in-law of the girl vary from the statements of sary that we should adopt, especially in the the other persons. The rest of the people tell case of women, a very practical approach to totally a different story. All these contradic- this problem instead of adopting a technical tions indicare that there is something fishy outlook in the matter. about it and the incident should be enquired into. It is difficult to produce evidences in support of the atrocities committed on a The details of the incident are as fol- woman. Suppose that some mishap takes lows:- Supriya come to attend the engage- place in her in-laws' house. Then, it is not ment ceremony of her uncle-in-law Shri possible to get any Independent evidence. Pratap Singh's son on 11 November and The in-laws of the girl will do everything in a from there comes to village Dawawali and planned manner, win over the evidence and from Dawawali she reaches here Tajakheda wipe out the case. In this connection I would farm in the evening where she died. She 435 Call Attention reo NOVEMBER 29, 1988 on women 436 Rep. Atrocities

[Shri Shanti Dhariwal] [ Translation] comes to her bad room where a suit case is lying on it. A pistol is lying under the suitcase. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAl: I would like As has been said. she touches the pistol to ask the Government whether these points inadvertently and two shots coming out of are not enough to create a suspicion? The the pistol pearced through her body leaving pistol which caused her death did not belong two marks there. to her, even though she had three licences and her husband also possesses 3 licences. [English] That pistol belonged to her elder brother-in- law i.e. elder brother of her husband. I am at One at the entry point of bullet and one a loss to understand as to where did she at the exit point of bullet. keep her all the 3 pistols and what about those three of her husband? The pistol which [ Translation] was found lying under her suitcase belonged to her elder brother-in-law and that too it was The S. P. of the district Shri Kartar Singh loaded? Do not these points create a suspi- Tomar calls it to be, by and large, an acci- cion? I request you Khan Sahib to think over dent. Supriya was hit by bullet. People say it and apply wisdom. that she was hit by three bullets and he says about one bullet only. He says that the SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: Chautala tam ily is very fond of keeping arms Indiraji was killed. What happened to that and they have much attraction towards case. (Interruptions) them. Due to this attraction perhaps Shri Abhay Singh, a grand son of Devi Lal pos- SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: That pistol sesses 3 licences for arms and his wife belonged to Shri Ajay Singh who is Supriya's supriya also possessed 3 licences. His elder elder brother-in-law. It is her husband. brother, Shri Ajay Singh possesses 3 li- Abhay Singh's version that the pistol which cences and his wife also possesses 3 li- caused death to Supriya belonged to Shri cences. I cannot understand one thing as to Ajay Singh. what was the need of possessing so many arms. ? In my knowledge there is not a single Despite all these things it is being said Member of Parliament whose family pos- that there was no foul play and it was totally sesses so many arms. a clear-cut accident. Through you. I would like to submit that the S.S.P., Shri Tomar SHRI HET RAM: On a point of order, says that her parents have no objection. Sir. He is not aware that house is situated in Sections 176 of the Cr. P. C. envisages that a farm in the village. [Interruptions] in case of woman dying within 7 years of her marriage the inquest should be carried out by the District Magistrate. I would like to SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Both the know if no foul play was involved in it why the brothers and their wives possessed 12 arms inquest was not carried out the District in all. (Interruptions) Magistrate?

[English] [English] SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am not al- (Bolpur): Can the Minister reply to this? lowing everyone to speak. ( Interruptions) 437 can Attention fe. AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) on women 438 Rep. Atrocities

[ Translation] with a knife or some other instrument with him. But we came to know that he had gone SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: We will there without any such thing. In this connec- come to that later. When the S.S.P. was tion I would like to know if he had gone there asked as to why did he not carry out the without the instruments how the postmortem inquest by the District Magistrate he said that was conducted. (Interruptions). Everybody, when the party agrieved had no doubt, what whether it is Dr. Kataria, girl's father Shri was the need of getting the inquest done by Ram Choodra Matoria or the S.S.P., Shri the O.M. Tomar, is telling a bigger lie with a view to winning the confidence of the big political SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: leaders. In his tape-recorded statement, What is the difficulty with you? (Interrup- S.S.P. Shri Tomar has said that Dr. Kataria tions) arrived at the Tejakhera farm at 8'0 clock to conduct a post-mortem. On being asked SHRt SHANTI DHARIWAL: Now he about the time of cremation. he told that it has come to another point. I would like to was done between 10'0 clock and 11'0 submit as to why did not the police take the clock. This implies that the doctor arrived at finger prints from the pistol which was 8'0 clock for the post-mortem and the cre- touched by Supriya causing her death. No mation was done between 10'0 clock and matter whether it is an accident, a murder or 11'0 clock. ~o post-mortem operation takes a suicide, but a case should have been less than 2 or 3 hours to complete. The registered against the owner of the arms '?xternal and internal injuries have to be which was used in the incident. Any how, noted down. Notes relating to the stomach, Supriya was hit by bullet. But neither a doctor intestine kidney. spleen .... was sent for nor any other action was taken. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Who Similarly the postmortem episode also will answer this? Will the hone Minister be creates a suspicion and it reveals that the big able to answer? people can go to any extent. If a poor man dies of an accident, his family members SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Samples make a have and cry for the postmortem to from all parts of the body have to be taken. be conducted. (Interruptions) The chest has to be opened. All this work cannot be completed in less than 2-3 hours. As regards the post mortem the S.S.P., All these things indicate that there is no Shri Tomar says that Supriya's postmortem possibility of a post-mortem having been was conducted in the house i.e. at the conducted over there Tejakheda farm. When Dr. Kataria was asked he says that nothing of the sort was [English] done, it was done in the hospital in the village. The girls father, Shri Ram Chandra MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please wind Matoria says that postmortem must have up. been conducted somewhere or the other before taking the dead body for funerals. [ Translation] Similarly when her uncle Chet Ram. was asked he says that it is only the God who SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: knows what happened. Had Dr. Kataria My point of order is whether he can discuss really conducted the postmortem in any matter concerning a private family or Tejakheda farm he would have gone there individual in the House (/nteffuptions). 439 Call Attention reo NOVEMBER 29. 1988 on women 440 Rep_ Atrocities

[English] have taken 15 minutes. Try to be brief.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If he has [ Trans/ation] made any allegation, I would not allow that to go on record. I will go through it. SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: All right, I shall tc...;'9 five more minutes. I have yet to [ Translation] conclude my point. I want them to listen to what ' say...... (Interruptions) Chautala SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ All KHAN: Hasp" il is situated at a distance of 35 Kilom- This is not proper. A private case is being etres from Tejakhera farm. A minimum of 1 discussed. A number of similar cases have 1/2 hours are spent in covering that distance taken place in the past. This is against the - th& co~\drtion of the road there being bad. rules. If a private matter is allowed to be If what Dr. Kataria says is true. how could the discussed this time, it will set a precedent for post-mortem and the subsequent cremation more such discussions in future. (Interrup- be done in such a short period? Do these tions) No Sir, this will not do. Mr. Oeputy- points not create doubts? But these people Speaker Sir, this is totally wrong ..... (Inter- do not understand. (Interruptions) ruptions) SHRI VIROHI CHANOER JAIN SHAI SHANTI DHARIWAL: 8'0 clock is (Barmer): The C.B.I. should be asked to given as the time for the post-mortem and conduct an inquiry. the cremation time is given between 10'0 clock and 11'0 clock. They did all this in just SHRI SHANTI OHARIWAL: The father two hours. Another point I want to mention is of Supriya, Shri Ram Chandra Matoria. be- that if Dr. Kataria says that the post-mortem longs to Rajasthan. Why should the opposi- was conducted at the hospital we have to tion Members feel concerned, it is we who accept it. If it was conducted at Tejakhera are concerned because a daughter of our Farm, Chautala...... (Interruptions) State has died .... (Interruptions)

[English] SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: How come you advocate this case? (Inter· MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Please ruptions). come to the point. SHRI SHANTI OHARIWAL: There is no [ Translation] question of advocating.

SHRI SHANTI OHARIWAL: What is the SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: point in speaking if we do not reveal the 'Saare jahan ka dard hamare jigar mein hai'. facts? Please let me take five more minutes. He feels concerned about the whole world. I have to mention about four more cases. The han. Member seems quite concerned This is not happening in Haryana alone but about Shri Chautala and Devi Lal's family. at several other places. It happens in other But not for others. Has he ever discussed in States also. Why are they impatient? the House the atrocities being committed on the poor daily? (Interruptions) [English] SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Another MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please be point I want to mention is that the public brief and relevant to the SUbject. Already you relations officer of Haryana took a group of 441 Call Attention reo AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) on wom9n 442 Rep. Atrocities journalists to meet Supriya's father Shri Ram in that case. Don't go on elaborating the Chandra Matoria. Before the meeting, Shri personal matters in detail. Matoria was told not to worry over the loss of his first daughter. They admitted their mis- [ Translation] take and promised the marriage of his 15 years old second daughter Kanta with SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH;On a point Abhay Singh. This is how Shri Matoria was of order, Sir, what is this matter being rQ- pacified. After that...... (Interruptions) If ferred to as the marriage of a 14 year old girl? there was no foul play, why did the Public It should be expunged from the record. Relations Department felt a need for taking ( Interruptions) a group of journalists over there and hold a press conference? What are you talking? SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Even the (Interruptions) What Shri Materia has said 12-day mourning was not observed and the is ..... (Interruptions) that death was caused engagement was done. In a Hindu family, no by an accident. In Deorala (Rajasthan), the celebrations are held until 12 days have father of Roopkanwar also had said the passed after a death. In this case, the en- same thing. (Interruptions) Please think over gagement was held after only four days. It. (Interruptions) Any way, Shri Ram Chan- (Interruptions) Now I finish this matter here dra Matoria was given the temptation of his and take up another matter. second daughter's marriage. He agreed to the offer. As he has given statements, so SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: I many times in the Press ...... (Interruptions). thank the hen. Member for Gxpressing his sympathy in this matter. (Interruptions) [English] SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: Under the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Why are you Arms Act, if a pistol has been used in a bringing those things here? murder, suicide or is involved In an accident, it is mandatory to register a case against its [ Trans/ation] owner. this was not done in this case. Ac- cording to Chapter (13) Rule (4) of the Police SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH (Mathura): Act, a post-mortem cannot be conducted at Will anybody give his daughter to a killer? home .... (Interruptions) ( Interruptions) SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: The en- The Government is ours. We will do as we gagement ceremony was held on the 16th please. Why should the hon. Member be just four days after the death which occurred concerned with the hows and why of the on th 11 th .... (Interruptions) Now.l take up post-mortem? ..... (Interruptions) the matter of forced rape committed on the mother by the son. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: On a point of order Sir, there are a number of cases [English] where post-mortem is not conducted if the District Magistrate or S.P. so desire.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Dhar- [English] iwal, listen to me. You are discLJssing about atrocities on women. When you are referring MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No point of to them I have no objection. But try to be brief order. 443 Call Attention fe. NOVEMBER 29. 1988 on women 444 Rep. Atrocities

[ Translation] his mother. Could there be a bigger at roc- ity? .. ~ (Interruptions) ... A brother-in-law was SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: In my forced to ral'e the wife of his brother. This district, a number of cases occur on the matter relates to Rajasthan. Please get it highway in which a post·mortem is not con· inquired ..... (Interruptions) dueted and only a 'panch nama' is prepared and got signed. As such, they were not under [English] compulsion to get the post-mortem done but in spite of that they called the doctor and got MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: When I am the post mortem conducted. requesting you, please take your seat. You alone have taken half an hour. There are SHAI SHANTI DHAAIWAL: Rules must others also. I have no objection if the Mem- undergo drastic changes. If we want the bers mention certain cases, but please do State Government to ask for a C.B.1. inquiry, not discuss the details of the individual it is the Chief Minister who would refer the cases. Please try to be brief and not go into matter, and in the present case, the family the details of the cases. If you want a:ny involved is that of the Chief Minister himself. clarifications, you can ask the Minister. A C.B.I. inquiry should be held for this mys- tery to pe solved. (Interruptions) ... Now Itake Now, Dr. Rajhans. up the matter of rape of a mother by her son. [ Translation] [English] OR. G.S. RAJHANS (Jhanjharpur): Mr. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I cannot al- Deputy Speaker, Sir, the people of this low you any further. That is enough. Please country would recall Roop-Kanwar and take your seat. Give chance to others also. Supriya whenever the Issue of atrocities on women will be referred to and when we refer [ Translation] the case of Supriya .... (Interruptions~

SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL: If women SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Allega- are treated like carrots and radish ... (Inter- tions cannot be made unless it is proved. ruptions) How are you referring to it. (Interruptions)

[English] [English]

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I am calling MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I cannot al- Dr. Rajhans now. Time is over for you. I low any controversy like this. If you refer to would allow Dr. Rajhans only. You have certain cases, I have no objection but if you taken a long time. Please cooperate with the make any allegations or go into the details of Chair. the individual cases, I cannot altow that.

( Interruptions) [ Trans/ation] [ Translation]

SHRI SHANT I DHARIWAL: This is an SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: How are altogether different matter. Please consider you saying that the incidents of Roop a situation where a son was forced to rape Kanwar and Supriya would be recalled? 445 Call Attention reo AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) on women 446 Rep_ Atrocities

DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Certainly they MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have only would be recalled, the country would recall said that while speaking, they may refer to them. (Interruptions) the incident but they should not go into all details .... SHAI MANVENDAA SINGH: This may be expunged from the proceedinas of the ( Interruptions) House. (Interruptions) [ Translation] [English] DR. G.S. RAJHANS: 80 croras people MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, interrup- of this country wanted to know the fact tions please. You can refer to the cases only and not go into the details. ( Interruptionst

( Interruptions) [English]

[ Translation] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I do not allow any body except Dr. Rajhans. DR. G.S. AAJHANS: Unsuccessful at- tempts are being made to conceal the fact. DR. KRUPASINDHU SHOI (Sam- The nation would recall Roop-Kanwar as balpur): I am on a point of order. Can a post- well as Supriya .... (Interruptions). mortem be conducted below the level of district divisional hospital? Let the Minister SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Maya clarify? Tayagi was got murdered. She was raped under government protection and she was MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There is no later murdered .... (Interruptions) .... point of order;

[English] [ Translation]

SHRI G.G. SWELL (Shillong): On a DR.G.S. RAJHANS: I would like to ~olnt of order. You were pleased to observe quote an old couplet - "Khair. Khoon, that the Members may refer to a particular Khansi, Khushi, Bair, Preet Madhupan Instance, but if they go into the details Rahiman Dabe na dabs, janat sakal jahan." thereof. you would not allow that. .... (Inter- ruptions). That is what you said. No amount of hue and cry made on your MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No interrup- part is going to conceal this case of murder tions please. at any cost. (Interruptions)·

SHRI G.G. SWELL: Personally I have [English] no objection to these things. I am only quot- Ing what you have said from the Chair. I want to pose a question. When you say you will MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nothing will not allow these things, will these go on go on record except the speech of Dr. record? Raihans. You all please sit down.

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[ Trans/ation] and 36 respectively. In sofar as West Bengal is concerned, rape 91, molestation 54 and DR. G.S. RAJHANS: I come from Bihar. eve-teasing 64. I do agree that number of Did the authorities aver bother to take the such incidents in Bihar would be much more finger prints at the trigger or butt of the than that. But I am unable to furnish axad revolver or the pistol involved in the accident, figure with regard to Bihar as it was not I am calling it only an accident, Supriya died. available in the report. (/ntsrruptions) (Interruptions) Please listen to me ... (Inter- ruptions) Of coursEt, her father did not accept I would like to submit that this matter this theory. Howcan we expect a father living should not be taken lightly. It is a socio- under the constant fear of a revolver and economic problem. It is a sodo-er;onomic guns to muster enough courage to revaal the problem. It should be realised that a girl is truth? I would like to say everything in plain considered a burden on her parents from the words as a guilty conscience needs no ac- very first day or her birth. Every facility cuser. I would like the whole matter to be should be provided free of cost to report investigated by C. B.1. Rather I demand that dowry deaths. As in the case of accidents, all incidents of killings of women, dowry announcements are made on Doordarshan deaths and rape occured during the last one and Akashwani that public should report year should be handed over to the C.B.I for incidents of accidents to the ~olice and take investigation. Investigation report should be the injured persons to hospitals without any laid on the table of the House as it is a very fear of being implicated in the case. Simi- serious matter. It is generaUy said that rich larly, the Government should give wide families are comparatively less crime prone publicity through government media and the but I am of the opinion that there is greater newspapers that people should inform the degree 01 avariousness found in the rich, so incidents of atrocities on women, dowry this matter should be considered from this deaths or exploitation of women to the police point of view. I wOL'ld like to submit that a sel1- without any fear. They should be assured of evident fact requires no proof. The Govern- secrecy of their names. For this purpose, a ment should get the whold matter investi- separate cell is required to be formed by the gated by C.B.1. Everything will be cleared, Government where such incidents are re- nothing to worry about it. (Interruptions) As I ported. Onus of proof should rest on the in- told you that I would not go in details of the laws of the girl and not her parents. The law matter. (Interruptions) What else can be will have to be amended for this. As in the done if they have no faith in the C.B.1. The case of Sati, persons having found glorifying whole matter should be considered seri- sati are debarred from contesting elections ously. It is related to socia-economic prob- and holding any public post, On the same lem. I am not referring to any particular case. analogy, a more stiff law is required to be Dowry deaths and atrocities on women are made, making provision therein that if a increasing in the country. A report on this person found guilty of dowry death should be subject has been made available to me by debarred from contesting elections and the library. I would like to quote from that holding public post or jobs in public and report. In the year 1987. the number of private sectors. A law loses its utility if it is not incidents of rape, molestation and kidnap- implemented properly. The most important ping in Andhra Pradesh were 121,353,76 thing is to creates a positive atmosphere for and 338 respectively. The corresponding it. I have already stated that the black-mar· figures for Karnataka were rape 65, molesta- keteers with their black earnings spends tion 213, kidnapping 32, eve-teasing 32 and huge amount of money on marriage ceremo- that of Kera'a, these figures were 65, 102 nies and exhibition ot pomp and show. If 449 caR Attention reo AGRAHAYANA 8.1910 (SAKA) on women 450 Rep. Atrocities

social boycott is made to such persons, the jobs for wom&n. I would like the Central people wilt start hating such persons. If Government to make a law in this connec· social boycott is made to the persons or the tion, as education comes under concurrent families who oommitt attrocities on women list. The State Government should also fol· and exploit women and girls, it will deter such low this decision. Lady teachers should be person in committing such crimes. Te1evi- appointed in primary schools as they can tell sian has an enduring effect on our society. the girl students about their riQhts in a better Television facilities are available even in way ... (Interruptions) rural areas of the country and a vast cross section of the people are influenced by it. A TV serial named "Police file Se" based on the SHRI SYED MASDUL HOSSAIN real incidents were telecast recently. As (MURSHIDABAD): If someone drives out Tolstoy said, the widow of one's younger brother out of her house, whether any assistance is to be pro- [English) vided to the victim.

"Fable is the best way of giving an [English] advice." l franslatlOn] DR. G.S. RAJHANS: I am not going to debate on that. When your turn comes, you can speak on the subject. I understand what All case of dowry deaths In which gUIlty you are aiming at. has been awarded punishment should be telecast on TV, of course with a fictitious [ TranslationJ name. This will give viewers an idea of the punishment that could be awarded to per- petuators of such crimes and seventy of the I tell you that members of the family If, crime. Besides, women should be made which a girl is born become disappointed. aware of their rights by telecasting serials in The Government should take some such this connection on Doordarshan or through steps so that people living below the poverty some other media. As many as 70 per cent line automatically resort to family planning of the toral women are still unaware of theit after two daughters as also a sums of Rs. rights. They should be made aware of their soao/- for each daughter should be depos· rights and assured of Government protec- ited in fixed deposit so that by the time the girl tion. In western countries, there are socie- attains the age of marriage, the amount so ties to look after the cases of child abuse and deposited in the f;xed deposit becomo3 suf- attrocities on women. They take action even ficient to marry her off. Thus the family will on a telephone calls, they take proper care of not feel any burden and it would also enable the victims and provide proper protection to in rooting out social evils. There is no end of them. Governments also takes proper steps. this malady and this has taken from bad to Similar provision should be made in our worse proportion. If the attrocities on women country to provide proper protection to tha are not checked in time, this will bring our women. Shri Rajiv Gandhi has taken a revo society to the brinking of an abyss. Rich are lutionary step by assuring women to give more avaricious of dowry and this evil is them due position in administration and increasing day by day. All the political parties society. In AICC conference, it has been should join their hands in finding ways and decided to reserve 30 per cent Government means to stop attrocities on women. 451 Call Attention reo NOVEMBER 29, 1988 on women 452 Rep. Atrocities

[English] is not only in a particular State, but if you go through the data you will find out that in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Andhra Pradesh, in Tamil Nadu, in Bihar, in MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AF- Uttar Pradesh, in Haryana. in West Bengal, FAIRS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE everywhere the atrocities are increasing. PRIME MINISTER'S OFFICE (SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT): Sir, is it the sense of the SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI House that we should continue with the (Srinagar): Except in Jammu & Kashmir. discussion? KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: 'Eve- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If the House rywhere' I said. If you go through tne list you accepts, I have no objection. will find it. (Interruptions)

SHRIMATI SHEILA DIKSHIT: You may MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Do not inter- take the sense of the House. rupt. If you interrupt, she has to say something, then you will say something. and so on MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: What about ( Interruptions) the proposal of the Minister? Should we dispense with the lunch hour, because there KUMARI MAMATA l:3ANERJEE: are a number of bills also today and we have could not get the list for 1988, but I have go to finish them? the list for 1985, 1986 and 1987. If you go through these lists you will find that in Ahme- SOME HON. MEMBERS: We will con- dabad in 1985 eighty women died and in tinue the discussion. 1987twenty women died. In Bombay in 1985 twenty-two women died, in 1986 23 died, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Kumari and in 1987 twenty seven died. I am not Mamata Banerjee. going into the details because the time available is short and then I cannot mention the KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE other points. And I have got some other (Jadavpur): At the outset I would like to points to mention. It is a fact that atrocities appeal to all of my friends from this side and are increasing. I am just referring to two or on the other side not to take it as a political three States. If I have got the details I would discusc;ion, not to politicise the discussion. have referred to all the other States also. I do Because, I do not have any intention to not have any personal intention to humiliate politicially humiliate anyone or to politically one State, because it is a very serious mat- manipulate the matter. ter.

It is a fact that atrocities on women are In Andhra Pradesh according to one increasing day by day, though our Prime MLA of Telugu Desam as many as 11,714 Minister is trying his best to protest the offences of various types have been re- interests of women through various legisla- ported against women in the last three and a tion and through various activities. But it is a half years. That is the situation. fact that the atrocities are increasing all over the country. The time is short, that is why I In Bengal, there were only 17 dowry am not going into the details. deaths in 1983. or bride burning cases. In 1984 the figure dropped to 14. In the follow- If you go through the data then you will ing year, the figure to jumped to 53. Eight find out how the atrocities are increasing. It women had been murdered. In 1986. a total 453 Call Attention reo AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) on women 454 Rep. Atrocities

of 86 deaths were officially recorded. In ties on women from the Library. I had re- 1987, the figures shot up to 254. ceived one paper from the Library. It is not a partisan matter. Sir, I am referring one issue, Sir, tne situation is very alarming. where the Congress MLA is involved. The would request the Minister to set up one Supreme Court has already given a verdict Consultative Committee under the Ministry that the Rajasthan Government should reg- of Women Welfare. We are having so many ister a case against this Congress MLA. I do Consultative Committees. If we set up one not know whether he killed four girls or not Consuttative Committee for Women under because of infanticide. He may be Congress the Ministry of Women Welfare, then this MLA. But the Rajasthan Government should Ministry will look after the grievances of enquire into the matter and ascertain women. whether it is fact or not. If it ;s a fact, then the Congress MLA should be expelled from the There should be one separate cell for party. It is not a matter for Congress or CPM. womens' grievances headed by a lad~' po- Wherever there is atrocity on women, the lice in every district so that ladies can meet Government should enquire into the matter. the lady officer and express their grievances. We are having so many laws. People Now, I am going to refer Supriya's case do not know about these laws. how to imple- in Haryana. I raised this issue on 16th and ment and how to get through all these 17th in this House. After that, on 18th, the things ... (Interruptions) Home Minister of State Shri Sampat Singh made a statement that the Government had Sir, whenever the Minister gets any done postmortem and other things. Why not complaint or any allegation ;"'~ainst any before? Supriya died on 11 tho But the Gov- particular person regarding atrocities on ernment has made a statement on 18th. If women, the Government of India should nothing was there, no hatch potch was there, look into this matter directly and they should then why was the Government so afraid of? ask CSI to enquire into the matter. Some- It is a contradiction. That is why, what is in my body raised some issue about Haryana and mind and what I am told is that it is a pre- they say it is a State subject. If I raise any planned murder and the post mortem is Issue about West Bengal, then somebody manipulated and concocted and the head of says that it is a State subject. If everything IS the State Government has misused his a State subject, then han. will people get power... (Interruptions) justice. Why I am telling. his is because in this country under the hands of administra- SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: ThiS was tIon, ladies are not safe; under the hands of not a murder. It was an accident. The intan· the head of the State Government ladies are tlon was clear. That was not murder. How not safe; under the hands of feudal land- can she say that it is a murder? .. (Interrup- lords, ladies are not safe and under the tions) hands of political leaders, ladies are not safe. That is why, the Central Government should directly enquire these matters and MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: O.K. you they should not get any permission from the objected to it we will see. She has only a State Government. ... (Interruptions) suspicion ... (Interruptions)

SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: She can Sir, I would like to refer to one or two request for the enquiry, but how can she say things only. I had asked the details of atroci- that it is a murder? (Interruptions) 455 Call Attention re. NOVEMBER 29, 1988 on women 456 Rep. Atrocities

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKt::R: She is only the sound ... {/nterruptions). Why I am rising saying that he has a suspicion ... (lnterrup· this issue is because if common people tions) violate the rules, then the Government takes action against those common people but if a head of the State Government misuses his SHRI SA1FFUDDtN CHOWDHARY power and violates the law, then who will (Katwa): It can be a murder, but in such take action against that head of the State cases, whnt is the law? , find our Mahita Government. From legal point of view I am Samitis file the case in the court? Has any of saying that...{/nterruptions). When Abhay their ~ "Ps done that? Or they are bent upon Singh married Supriya, at that time she was pollt.e Ising it. It could be a murder, we do not under age ... (Interruptions) know. So many such cases are referred to our Mahila Samitis and they file a case in the SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: This is court. Has the Government done highly objectionable, Sir ... (/nterruptions) it? .. (Interruptions) No, any public man can do it. .. (Interruptions) [ Translation]

KUMAR' MAMATA BANERJEE: It is a SHRt MOHO. MAHFOOZ AU KHAN: matter of surprise that when I say something What is all this happening? against my Party member, they keep quiet. But when I c;ay something against their [English] members, they oppose it. I appeal to everyone that tNs is not a partisan matter. I do not MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: She is not know whether it is an accidental death or telling about any particular person ... suicide or murder ... (/nterruptions) That Government wilJ find out through the CBI ( Interruptions) enquiry. But under mysterious circumstances, this matter has become one of the KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: I did controver51al ones. Nobody can deny that. not mf3ntion any name, Sir ... The suspicion has arisen because of some contradictions. ContradIction No. 1--1 he ( Interruptions) father-m-Iaw of Mrs. Supnya said that the weapon was 32 pistol belong to his elder MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: There are so son, Ajay Singh. But 7 days after the inci~ many persons in the State ... dent, Mr. Sampat Singh while talking to the newsmen, said that he knew that the ( Interruptions) weapon was licensed but did not know to whom it belonged. Contradiction No. 2- KUMAR I MAMATA BANERJEE: What Anyone who has handled the pistol would I am saying is that if any Head of the Govern- know that considerable pressure needs to m ent is involved ... ( Interruptions) be applied on the trigger before it fires. It seems highly unlikely that it could go off MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: She is not simply by falling on the floor. Contradiction telling about any particular person, she is No.3 The father-in-law said that a bullet had only saying ... hit Supriya on the right side of her neck and had come out of her left side. But Supriya's ( Interruptions) father said the bullet had hit her on the left side of the neck. Number 4, Supriya' bed- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please wind room is just a few yards from the room in up now. which Ajay Singh and the guests were stying, but they do not know what happened. KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: Why I They said they do not know, they did not get am raising this issue is because we know 457 Call Attention '9. AGRAHAYANA 8.1910 (SAKA) on womsn 458 Rep. Atrocities that public leaders should be clean with not confined to particular state or for that regard to their own family. Otherwise, how matter to any particular political party. We will they advise people to be should unitedly raise our voice if atrocities clean? ... (/nterruptions). So, Sir, from the are committed on any woman anywhere. I legal point of view, I would like to raise two agree that even one single educated woman points. When Supriya married Abhya Singh, member of a family makes all members of then she was below eighteen. That I must the family educated. If the lady member of a point out. Secondly, Supriya's father has family possesses good qualities, the entire managed through some politically influential family inherits such qualities. We should persons to hand over her.second daughter to create a condition in which women may live Mr. Ajay Singh. But she is also under age. in the society with self respect, otherwise our She is also below eighteen. She is below society can not be developed. Man and sixteen. That is why I say that the Govern- woman are two wheels of our society. You ment should see that no one in this country, know that a vehicle can not move with only no influential person of this country, no Head one wheel. While discussing this issue, our of the state Government misuses the law, party affiliations should not come in our way. misuses the power for his own In her written reply to the CaJling Attention purpose ... (/nterruptions). That the Govern- Motion, the hone Lady Minister has stated • I ment should see from legal point of view. many things. Many laws have been made to Secondly, Sir, you have passed so many safeguard the women from the atrocities laws ... (lnterruptions). When Supriya died, committed on them and prevent dowry she died within two years of her marriage. deaths. When need be, even amendments There is a Dowry Probibition Act. When the were made in the Acts such as Dowry Prohi- law is there that the Government should bition Act, Indian Evidence Act, Indian Penal inquire if anybody dies within seven years of Code and Criminal Procedure Code. I know her marriage, the case should be looked into that our Government, particularly Shri Rajiv by the Central Government. I appeal to aU Gandhiji, has paid speciaJ attention to raise the influential persons, including the Head of the status of women in our country. You the Government of Haryana that if he is know that women are a weaker section of innocent, he should publish all the post our society. So we should provide more mortem reports in a White Paper. We want to protection to them. We have made many see whether this is a genuine report or not. laws in this regard, but they are not imple- He has no moral courage to pubHsh all the mented properly because implementation is facts because he is afraid. He knows that he the duty of State Governments. I, therefore, is a feudal landlord ... (Interruptions). The would like to submit that you should get them Government should look into this matter. If implemented strictly. the head of the State Government is found guilty then Government should punish hm1 Some of our colleagues are in habit of according to rules. taking such serious issues in a lighter vein. I know that a voluminous book can be brought [ Translation] out with my speech, but it will not be able to save anyone's life. If we want to save the life SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH of somebody, we have to consider it seri- MALlK{Sonepat): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I ously. rise to submit some points on the Calling Attention being discussed in the House. This Shri Manvendra Singhji is one of our old issue is very important, particularly for the friends. Though he has left the Congress members of other side. I do agree that the Party, yet I have a high regard for him. I Congress Party com mands absolute major- consider Shri Mahfooz Ali Khan and Shri ity in the House. Hetram as members of our family. As a matter of fact, this whole House is like a The atrocities committed on women are family, but it is not the question of Supriya's 459 Call Anention re. NOVEMBER 29, 1988 on women 460 Rep. Atrocities

rShrh' Dharam Pal Singh MaJikl . appeared in newspapers raised doubts. aeat or death of anyone else.1 would like to When the State Government clarified submit before this House that if Supriya met through a press release. that Abhay Singh an accidental death or she died a natural was not present on the spot at the time of death, the sympathy of entire House should incident, it created doubts that the Govern- go with Chaudhary Devi Lal and his family. ment wanted to take the alibi. This created But there is no eye-witness and I was not doubts to the extent that entire press of India present on the spot at the time of accident. started visitng Chautala and Tejakhera vil- Nor have I paid a visit to her house so far. I lages and the news became a hot cake. This am telling you the fact. I read the following is in the interest of Chaudhary Devilal and his newsitem in the newspaper of dated 13th family that they should themselves ask instant. C.B.1. to make enquiry into this incident. If Chaudhary Devi Lal wants to remove the [English] question mark on his social life, he should ask for C.B.1. enquiry. C.B.I. belongs to our The grand daughter-in·law of country .... (/nterruptions) .... Chaudhary Devi Lal died in accident there and I planned to go there. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: How do you know that equity is not being done? All [ Translation] the officer have visited there. The Govern· ment is making enquiry. Although, in Lok Sabha elections, I fought elections against Chaudhary Devi Lal SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN: I may have political difference with him but I You do not discuss when a man leaves his do not have any personal difference against first wife and marries anotherwoman. This is him, particularly with regard to socjal obliga- not a case of any specific case, we are tions. Below the very that news item, I read making discussion on atrocities. Is it not an the conditions in which Supriya died, a pistol atrocity that one of my sisters is sitting in this shot was fired and Supriya died, her hus- House .... (Interruptions) band Abhay Singh was not there at that time, he was ...... (/nterruptions) SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: This is an atrocity. Who denies it? The ques- SHRr SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN: tion is this that there may not be only one girl You should address the chair. Why are you named Supriay in this discussing a specific case... (Interruptions) world .... (lnterruptions) ... you may please sit down. [English] SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Mr. Malik, you belong to Haryana and this 1 am coming to your point. I shall alk in gen- incident occurred in Haryana. Such inci· eral. dents do occur often and that too in large number. May I expect from you that such [ Translation] cases, if reported, will be discussed in the House in future also. That is why I am saying that this issue raised doubts not only in this House, but also SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: everywhere .... (Interruptions) Anyone can Certainly. I will bring it to the notice of the interrupt like this, but nothing can be House. achieved with it. When we have the right to speak it is our duty to hear also. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Does it deserve to be discussed in the I only wanted to say that the statement ... (Interruptions) .... you should have raised 461 Call Attention re. AGRAHAYANA a, 1910 (SAKA) on women 462 Rep. AtrocI1ies this matter in State Assembly, as it is related [English] to the State. The matter has been politicised by raising this in the House. (Interruptions) ... MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: If you are Recently, it was reported in the newspapers interrupting him, he will take long time. I that 3 to 4 women were burnt for dowry in cannot stop him. Delhi. ... (/nterruptions).... Everyday two to three dowry deaths are reported in Delhi. ( Intsrruptions)

SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: I am not al- My sympathy goes with such women. Action lowing anything to go on record but for the should be taken against guilty persons irre- speech of Shri Dharam Pal Singh Malik. spective of the fact that he is a Chief Minister or a Central Minister or an M.L.S, or an M.P., ( Interruptionsr on matter from which party or from which state he belongs to. I wanted to make only [ Translation] this thing clear that people might be thinking that I had some axe to grind with Shri Devi SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: In Lal due to our election, rivalries. There is continuation of atr9Cities on women, I would absolutely no some such thing between us. like to submit yet another incident which I myself of the opinion that if it is a natural occurred on 31 ~t October, 1988 when a death, then we have full sympathy with him, programme was being held in the girls hostel but who will decide it? As he is the chief of the of Kurushetra University to celebrate Hary- State there can no be a fair enquiry under ana day. After conclusion of the programme, him. No doctor can do his own treatment; girls were teased and molested. Disrespect .... (Interruptions) .... was shown to them. An action committee was formed for that and students went on SHRI SYED MASUDAL HOSSAIN: strike. These college girls are also our Why are you withdrawing the Lok Pal Bill? .. daughters and daughter-in-Iaws. The ques- ( Interruptions) tion is not only of Supriya. (Interruptions)

SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: [English] You confine yourself to your state only. Mamtaji has said a lot of things about your SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY state. (Interruptions) (Mahbubnagar): Sir, I am.on a pOint of order.

SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Is the ( Interruptions) Government not accountable for Bofors? ( Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: He is on his legs. What can I do? SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Bofors Gun is a double edged weapon. I ( Interruptions) don't know whether it will kill us or them. But I am sure about one thing that they do not SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, I am on a have any matter other than Bofors to raise. point of order. This question should have Now-a-days, people call these opposition been admit1ed under Rule 193. (Interrup- parties as bluffers not buffer, because every tions) day they go on speaking wrong things. From where did this Bofors come in the issue of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: No. That atrocities on women? (Interruptions) issue is over.

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( Interruptions) we can only discuss general things. We we come to the general points. then Mr. Reddy SHRI ::i. JAIPAL REDDY: It is not a says that we should not discuss these specific case. You cannot have a Calling things. According to some of his own col- Attention Motion on general issues and the leagues, we should not discuss this particu- chosen speakers ... lar issue ...

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Already the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: It is a general Speaker has given his ruling and I cannot go motion. I am not asking you to refer to the back on it. incident. I am only asking ... (/nterruptions)

SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: r am on a SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: point of order. Without referring to anything, how can we discuss? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: My ruling is already the Speaker has given his ruling and SHRI S. JAtPAL REDDY: I am admitted it, I cannot go back. extending support to you.

( Interruptions) SHRl DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: 1 hank you. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: In the beginning. it was raised and the Speaker djd not SHRI S. JAJPAl REDDY: The Lady allow it. J cannot revise his ruling. Minister would be ktnd enough to agree for convers ion of this motion to a generaJ motion ( Interruptions) under Aule 193. (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It is too late. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: You I cannot do. were not here at the time of discussion. When others requested the Speaker, he \Inrerruptions) said, "there is no time. We cannot do it." It is not my objection. It is the Speaker's ruling. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: We are discussing the state I')f women, women's wel- SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: On:y a spe- fare. I welcome the discussion. I want the cific incident can be discussed in the Calling Hon. Minister for Women's Welfare to agree Attention Motion. General issues cannot be for extension of the debate. discussed. You observe the rules.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It is too late. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: We are You give separate notice. We will see. observing the rules.

( Interruptions) (Interruptions)

SHRI S. JAIPAL HEDDY: On a Calling Attention Motion, a general issue cannot be SHRI G.S. SWELL (Shillong): I am rais- discussed. (Interruptions) I know she is a ing a point of order. Rule says: great champion of Women's rights. She would certainly agree for the conversion of "A member may with the previous this Motion. (Interruptions) permission of the Speaker call the attention of Minister to any matter of SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: urgent public importance." When we discuss a particular issue, then some of the Members say that we cannot; Now if you have... (Interruptions) Please 465 Call Attention reo AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) on women 466 Rep. Atrocitiss allow rna, Madam ... (Interruptions) Please there, I will raise this matter. Sir, a lot of anow mao ... (/ntfl"U~":"f7s) I am not obstruct- atrocities have been committed on girls ing. I am just raising a po:.,t. Mr. Deputy- there. They are even prepared to leave their Speaker, can you give me your attention hostel or college. And this is a genaral thing please? Now if you have allowed tne discus- there. sion on the recent unfortunate death of Supriya ... (Interruptions) Wait a minute. There is another incident which also That could have baen an urgent rnatter. But relates to Haryana. As I hail from Haryana, I the Motion as worded in the order paper have some knowledge about the incidents relates to general atrocities on occurring in that State. In a similar, incident women ... (/nterruptions)... These unfortu- Santosh Devi, a harijan girl, who is the sister nate incidents have been going on for a long of Shri Om Prakash and belongs to Rajpura time in various states atl over India. That is a Khalsa village of Mahendragarh district has matter for general discussion and therefore been badly beaten up. She has gone there to what Mr. Reddy has said, it should better enquire about her brother. Her brother has have been allowed under Rule 193 for a also been beaten up. general discussion, is right. This is not a correct thing to do under Calling Attention. Another incident occurred at Kharhar ( Intsrruptions) viflage in Rohtak district. Hon Shri Chiranji Lal Sharma who belongs to Kharhar village MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Already the is present here. While a harijan woman was discussion is going on; more or less it is at walking towards fields carrying food for her the end. At this stage I cannot stop it. Already husband, she was caught hold by 5 to 7 the Speaker has allowed it. Some members hooligans who raped and dishonored her. wanted to covert it into a discussion under Thereafter, she was murdered by them. rule 193; but the Speaker did not accept. However, this Incident has been hushed up. Therefore, I cannot go back on his ruling. No further action has been taken on this matter. At last, that hanjan family consisting (Interruptions) of 15 members left the Village and migrated to Delhi. That hariJan family is residing In the SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: It only shows capital at present. that they are not interested in women's welfare. (lnterruptions)* What I mean to say is that even in cases of this magnitUde, no action is taken. Even in MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Nothing will the case which occurred in Khalsa village of go on record, whatever they are Mahendragarh district no postmortem was saying ... (Interruptions)* ... done. She was discharge after first aid. Neither any medical report was prepared, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Reddy, nor any F.I.A. was lodged. No action was please take your seat. taken against the culprits and the case was hushed up. Similarly, regarding the case in [ Translation] which a harijan woman had been raped at Kharhar village and subsequently mur- SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: dered, no action was taken or arrests made Sir, I am making my submission about for 4 months. It is very surprising. The Hary- women and about the incident which took ana Police, who took 4 months, proved to be place in Kurukshetra. I want to submit that failure in investigating this case. A commit- nearly one month has passed since 31 st tee consisting of 5 members was, however, October, 1988, but the atmosphere there is constituted with an eye towards political still very bad ... (/nt8rruptiolls) I am not al- gains and this case was not referred to the lowed to enter the Haryana Assembly. If I go CSI. One of the Members of this Committea

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[Shri Dharam Pal Sif'lgh Malik) whether it is Devi lal's state ar any ather IS Pandit Chiranji Lei Sharma, who is an hon. state. If this is not done during the Minister- Member of this House and Ch. Mehar Singh ship of the present Madam Minister, then Rathi, an ex-Minister, is also a member of nothing is going to be achieved by merely this Committee. Ch. Chand Ram who is an having discussions here daily. Therefore, I ex-MLA of that area and two other persons want that Madam Minister should make a who are M.L. As etc. are the rest of the statement on this issue and take action in members of this Committee. I want to know this regard. Otherwise, as it is said in the that when atrocities are being committed on Urdu language and I quote, 'Nisastand, and erorss of women and you have made it a guftand barkhastand', which means simpy state subject and although agencies like CBI meeting, talking and dispersing. This will not etc. are there, how can women really benefit benefit women at all. from them. I want to submit that incidents of atrocities on women do not relate to any I want to refer to my State where there particular State like Haryana, Uttar Pradesh are such families who do not show due or Bihar or are not isolated cases like that of respect to women thinking that they are not Supriya but is common to all States and all human beings and that they are inferior to women. Therefore, this subject should be men. There are women who do not get even included in the concurrent list. Madam Min- water to wash their faces in the early morn- ister is present here. If she does not give ing and have to wash their faces with their protection to women who else will do so? If tears. Therefore, I want to request the any woman has some complaint against the Madam Minister to provide security to them. State Government itself, then where will she otherwise it will be a ~1feat injustice to them go? The Central Government says that it is a Sate subject and therefore, the State So far as the Supriya case is concerned, Government can only deal with it. But in I want to inform that a report has been certain cases women may have grievances prepared under section 174 Cr. P.C. which against the State Government itself, and in can be prepared in case of many things. such a situation where will they get protec- Many legal experts are present here to tion? This matter should be seen in this vouchsafe that there are several contradic- perspective and required arrangements tions, namely when the report was pre- made to provide for a direct inquiry in such pared? When and where postmortem was cases by the Centre. In this context, I want to done, etc? The Speakers who have made refer to the incident which happened at their submissions before me have referred Kharhar village, which is located near my to many things which I do not want to repeat. constituency, Rohtak. When we went there, But I want to submit that the position of Ch. thousands of Harijans got assembled there Devi Lal has weakened considerably on this and demanded an inquiry into that case. We account and in order to rectify it, this case replied that the Centre cannot take any ac- should be handed over to the CSI tion because of it being a state subject. Reacting sharply to our reply they said that if In all, my request to the han. Minister is it was so, then what for we were there? that the subject 'atrocities on women' should People do not want any thing from the Gov- be brought under the jurisdiction of the ernment. They only need protection and Central Government and due protection opportunities for development. What is the given to women. This subject should be Government doing here? If it cannot give entrusted to the Department of Welfare ~f protection to women, then I think it will be a Women so that the interest, honour and blunder which will have adverse effects on prestige of women are protected. Laws have our society because women form an impor- been framed which are laudable. But their tant part of our society. Keeping this fact in implementation is in the hands of the States view, I think that inclusion of this subject in where all the mattars are considered from the concurrent list will benefit aU States, the political angfe. Here, at least, many is- 469 Call Attention reo AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) on women 470 Rep. Atrocities

sues are decided rising above politics. There SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: Iknow, is immYense resentment on account of it in my you may not need it, but the women need it. State. If protectors themselves become destroyers then how can the people be pro- The States of Manipur, Maharashtra, tected? Our political leaders, Ministers, Assam, Kerala and West Bengal have in- Chief Ministers etc. are our protectors and if formed us that they are in the process of they do not act accordingly, then howcan we setting them up, which means that your get protection? Everyone knows that this is Government feels they are needed. But all J not an ordinary case. There is something am saying is that it is not just a question of fishy here: These doubts should be re- courts, police and the law courts alone. moved. It should be enquired into and proper There has got to be a certain amount of replies given to the questions which I have social support to the cause as it is. I mean, if raised. With these words, I thank you. the attitude of the han. Member from Megha- laya just now that men are here to put brains [English] into women's heads is any indication of the thinking of the elected SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: Mr. representatives ... (lnterruptions) ... and com- Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is a fact, as has been ing as he does, from a State, which is sup- pointed out. that figures as are provided to us posed to be governed by very progressive by State Governments, from time to time, do customs as far as women are concerned, I prove that atrocities on women-whether it can imagine what the condition in other is rape. molestation. chain-snatching. kid- States would be if these are the attitudes of napping. eve-teasing. dowry deaths-have men. been on the increase. And this is despite the many laws which have been passed by But, Sir, we have begun to live with them Parliament, the many instructions which and probably we have begun to learn. have been issued repeatedly to State Governments and the general awareness PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- and involvement of women and women's japur): In his State, he is atthe receiving end. groups round the country in trying to improve the status of women. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: That's why he is so frustrated. Members have already pointed out and with great dismay that they know what the SHRI G.G. SWELL: In my State, the reply will be, that ultimately though we have women have brains. not here. the laws and though we have the best of intentions, the implementation machinery is SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: That is with State Governments. And we have to go why, they keep you in your place I would like by the existing rules, (Interruptions) that we to point out that repeatedly we get requests have to take them into consideration and we from parents, from the families that cases have to go by the information which they give are not being investigated as they should be to us. in the State~ I am not talking of any particu .. lar case. In fact, I have been repeatedly I have repeatedly been giving the case saying that my Department almost serves as of family courts. We passed the Bill in 1984. a Commission of Women's rights because Except for Rajasthan. Uttar Pradesh, Karna- we keep getting so many of these com- taka, Andaman and Nicobar-Assam has plaints, that though the FIRs are filed, some- not yet set up-they have not set up the body interferes, or the dying declaration has family courts. been wrongly recorded or something has been done to interferes with the investigative SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN (Barpeta): process itself. At this stage, all that we can do You need them. is to refer the matter to the CSI and ask them 471 Call Ansntion Ttl. NOVEMBER 29, 1988 on women 472 Rep. Atrocities

Shri Dharam PaJ Singh Malikl . responsive. Training programmes for offi .. Io have an investtgati6n. And the CBI an turn cars, pOlice and so on are being introduced have to take it up with the State Government. at all levels. And as the 8th Finance Commis- If the State Govarnment-and most often, sion had recommended. funds are now they do not object-agrees, they take up the being given to State Government for recruit- investigation independently and at least ment and training of women constables in satisfy the parents or the families that the the States. The Centre is funding the pro- independent investigation has been initi- gramme to get mora women police, so that ated. But to make this a rule in every single the~ are involved at various levels in helping case, when the cases are now running into thB NOmen in this process. This has been thousands in various categories like rape. speciaUy introduced now. This is a pro- dowry deaths and so on, it becomes a very grummo being funded by the Centre. difficult proposition. Detailed instructions were also issued Somebody mentioned the question of in 1980 and 1982 about the procedures to be evidence because in the case of dowry followed where a death of a woman under deaths, it takes place behind closed doors or mysterious circumstances takes place. It within the family ... Therefore, last year Par- has now been brought to within seven years liament amended the law and the burden of of the marriage of the girl. This is something proof was shifted to the family of the bride- which the States are required to do. Now, the groom, whilr& the incident takes place. We post mortem is compulsory, and that must be have tried to plug many of the loopholes and conducted not by one, but by two doctors whether you agree or not. I would also like to and before the body is cremated or disposed say that perhaps it is because of these of. the family of the girl must be given an amendments that many many more cases opportunity to see the body and be satisfied now ara being registered in all the States. It that the facts recorded are correct. There are is not that things are not happening, but the certain instructions which have been issued. laws have become more stringent and they And ) believe that these instructions which are compelled to register these cp~es. have been issued should be equally applied to a poor man, an ordinary family, or whether PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Also these are to be applied to the family of the because of vigilance of women .organiza- Chief Minister or anybody else. I am not tions. politicising this. I am stating the guidelines and rules as they have been issued. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: I will come to that. Somebody from the other side said. and very rightly so, that if the State Government I would also like to say that though the has done nothing, what are the women in cases are registered or filed, not everyone of Haryana doing, the mahila samitis doing? In them is necessarily a conviction or proved. reply, I can tell him that I was in Pampat last Every case that is filed is not necessarily a week. where there was a meeting of 1500 to case where everything has been proved or is 2000 women of Haryana. They invited me to clear. I would also like to say that the aware- this public meeting where a resolution was ness that has grown around the country has passed. These women told me that they certainly made it more difficult now to hide were dismayed over what has happened in these things or to see that these go Haryana when the law-makers have be- unrecorded. come the law breakers. They wanted that the enforcement of law to protect women must Now, I would come to women organiza- be entrusted to others. They have asked for tions and the general awareness among the an independent inquiry. It is they who have women group themselves. The State Gov- asked the questions. I did not organise the ernment machinery has to be made more meeting. For that matter. I cannot organise 473 Call Attention r9. AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) on women 474 Rep. Atrocities meetings that easdy in an Opposition rUled The deceased was reported to be State. It was organised by local women. I present all alone in her bedroom. have brought the petition to Delhi. They have Suddenly noise of fire from a weapon said that they have some doubts and they was heard by the person present in the wanted certain clarifications. They want drawing room." these doubts to be clarified because they. the women of Haryana, want to feel that they In the telex It is mentioned 'heard by the are safe and secure under the existing law person' and not persons. I do not know enforcing agencies. They have formed a whether it is a mistake. committee to proceed further locally and to file a complaint and to go to the Supreme "Immediately tnereafler a domestic Court if necessary to demand an independ- servant informed the brother-in-law of ent inquiry into it. It is not I or the Govern- the deceased that Smt. Supriya has ment, but it is the women of Haryana who are sustained bullet injuries. He immedi- demanding that somebody, whoever it may ately went inside and saw that the be. must look into this problem. I think, as is deceased was lying in the pool of blood nghtly stated, the people in authority have to and a 32-bore licensed pistol was also show even more that the law is followed. lying by her side. Clothes from the suitcase were also seen scattered. Since this question has been ralseo. The deceased probably wanted to some members have said that this is a change her cloths on return from some general discussion, whereas others have family function and a loaded pistol was felt that this is not a general discussion and also there in the suitcase containing only a particular matter must be discussed her clothes. As soon as the deceased because in a calling attention moUon, there took her clothes out, the loaded pistol can be no general discussion. But the Home got fired accidentally and she sus- Ministry has received detailed report about tained bullet injuries on the left side of the particular incident, which has been re- her neck, which pierced through the ferred to by all the speakers, that is the sad neck, whereupon she died due to bul- death of Smt. Supriya. Since so many ques- let injuries instantaneously. tions have bean raised. I would like to ... They do not say, bullet injury. They say SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN bullet 'injuries'. (8adagara): Who is Supriya? "Local police was immediately in- SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: She formed. The local police noticed legal happens to be, Mr. Unnikrishnan, the late action u/s 174, Cr. P .C. On lamented grand-daughter-in-Iaw of the 12.11.1988. post mortem of dead body Chief Minister of Haryana. Shri Devi Lal. was also carried out.

Now, I am just reading the telex, which They do not say where the post mortem has been sent by the Government of Hary- was done, as to who were present. whether ana: there was one doctor or there were more doctors. Nothing is mentioned about these "Kindly refer your telex regarding inci- aspects. dent leading to the death of grand daughter in law of the Chief Minister, "Statements of independent witness Haryana. The incident occurred on including the parents of deceased 11.8.88 at the Tejakhera Farmhouse were recorded. None of them has police station, Dabwari. District Sirs8. expressed any doubt or any malafide Some family guests were taking tea in about the accidental death of Smt. the drawing room of the farmhouse. Supriya .. • 475 Call Anention rs. NOVEMBER 29, 1988 onwomen 476 Rep. Atrocities

[Shrimati Margaret Alva] My point is-Sir. I want to say very cate- Then it goes on to say: gorically-whoever it is no State can have a law unto itself. "Inquest proceeding under Section 174 Cr. P.C. has been completed. A [ Translation] final report of police has been sent to the JUdicial Magistrate of the IIlaqa. It SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: is evident from the above facts that The final report of the case has already Smt. Supria died accidental death and come. What is the need to reopen it? (Inter- action has already been taken by the ruptions) local police.- [English] SHRI V.KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO (Parvathipuram): Madam. just a minute. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: No FIR Twice you stressed that the report said that has been filed. they were injuries. Have you asked for a clarification whether the injuries or injury ( Interruptions) was from one bullet or more? SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN: One sparrow SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: I have does not make a summer. specially mentioned because everybody who spoke, even those from the other side. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: No FIR when they interrupted said that one bullet has been filed. Only a final report has been injury was ~mentioned in all the reports on the filed. It is okay. left side and this is the Telex from the State Government which has repeatedly spoken SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN: about injuries. That is what I am saying. Yes, The statement of the parents ... (Interruptions) SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN: May I know whether the post mortem report has been SHRIMAT( MARGARET ALVA: Alii am sent? saying is that none of us has said that anything specific has been done. I am saying, SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: It has that is why questions are being raised. And not been sent. They do not say who did it. as somebody said that it is in the interest of Where was it done? What was done? Noth- the Chief Minister that he has an independ- ing. (Interruptions) I have placed here this ent enquiry, I am saying that when there is statement which leave many many loop- nothing to hide, go ahead and inquire into. holes which unfortunately-unfortunately I That is all I am asking for. am saying--can be interpreted either way, because everything has not been clarified. It is but natural that question will be asked and SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: What questions will be raised. As somebody said more inquiry do you want? (Interruptions) earlier-in fact I was very surprised, I hope I am right. I took down the translation as it [ Trans/ation] came one of the Lok Dal Members in the House)--it is our Government and we will do as we want. (Interruptions) SHRI HET RAM (Sirsa): No one has time for discussing atrocities being committed on worn en belong to the Scheduled It can be checked from the record when Castes and Scheduled Tribes but everyone it is made available. This is the translation has time to dwell on the case of Shrimati which I took down. Supriya. 477 Call Attention re. AGRAHAYANA8.1910 (SAKA) on women 478 Rep. Atrocities

[English] what way we would find a way to look into such matters as and when they arise. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: Sir, no complaint under the Arms Licensing Act has In my statement, at the beginning. been filed. We have no information about have also spoken of what is being done by this either. (Interruptions) government, by various agencies. I do not want to repeat it. But, I think, ultimately, what SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: Police one of our Members of Parliament, in the investigation has already been done. What Consultative Committee meeting of the more do you want? Ministry had said recently was true. Let the elected representatives of the people give KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: Do an example first. How many MPs can with you know what DG has said? He said, he their conscience say that they have never does not know anything about this incident. accepted dowry and that they will never Do you know this? (Interruptions) accept it?

SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: I am in [ Translation] doubt. The Government's intention is not clear. They can repeat the incident of Sanjay SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH MALIK: Singh's, in Lucknow. That is why they are Madam, there are some people to whom no compelling for the CBI inquiry. one will give any dowry as even giving away ones daughter to him is more than enough. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: Sir. the report which was sent. in it, it is not there [English] whether there were one or two doctors present; whether it took place in the house or in SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: How the hospital whether other formalities as many are prepared to boycott the family required, as perthe guidelines issued by the where the daughter-in-law is being harassed Home Ministry to all the States have been or has not been given her right? (Interrup- followed. This is all that I can reply to the tions) points that have been raised on this issue. But this raises much deeper issue which SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN: What about Members had raised and that is the question the brother-in-law? of independent inquiries into these kind of incidents taking place. There has been a SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: I might demand for a long time that there should be mention here that the other day I had a a Commission or of Women's Rights or that gentleman who claimed that he had been there should be an independent agency waiting to meet me for this. He told me that which can in circumstances where there is a I was always talking about women rights. general feeling that investigation has not "What about the men who were harassed by taken place do it. But as the matters now their wives?" (Interruptions) stand, the Centre does not have powers to order a direct inquiry. It is upto Parliament [ Trans/ation] and it is upto Government to decide. SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: For KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: It is him it is to usual husband-wife story. our request Madam, to refer this matter to the CSI. [English]

SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: This SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: "You matter has been demanded repeatedly by all are always talking about women, but what the M~mbers and we shall cenainly see in about men? What about men?- All that we 479 CaD Attention reo NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Rep. Atrocities on women rShrimati Mar.aaret Alval. . do it all. Thank you very much. I am sorry. !\ay IS that tne overwl1elmlng crimes are this is not an assurance. against women and we believe that this sedien of our society requires not just to be treated as a joke whenever you talk about MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 atrocities on women, but you take this issue as a national challenge. It is not a question of 14.13 hrs. government or one State Government or a question of one group or one organisation of [Eng/ish] women; it is a question in which the dignity of women of this country is involved. There- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The house fore. we have presented a national perspec- now shall take up matters under Rule 3n. tive plan of action. There may be differences of opinion. But, we are saying that positive [ Trans/ation] intervention on behalf of women is needed if you are going to correct this attitude and try to tell some of our men that women. most of (J) Demand for allotting wasta them have more brain than men whatever land to the landless poor after may be their local opinions. This is what am I making it cuHivable. trying to say. That they have never been allowed to think for themselves; they have never been allowed to believe that they are SHRI SHANTI DHARIWAL (Kota): Mr. capable of looking after themselves. nor Deputy Speaker f Sir. crores of hectares of have they been given an opportunity to par- land in the country is lying as waste land in ticipate as equal citizens; and this is a chal- the form of ravines and rocky land. On the lenge we. in the government. are going to other hand, the number of landless and face today. Because. just by a law, the status unemployed people is increasing with the of women cannot be changed; there has got increase in population. In spite of to be an economic emancipation and partici- Government's efforts to provide assistance pation for which a very serious programme in the form of loans and grants to the se- for involving women in the mainstream de- lected families living below the poverty line to velopment activities is necessary. enable them to raise their standard of living. the results are not satisfactory because no permanent employment has been provided SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO: to them. Are you prepared to give a women copar- cenery right? My submission is that instead of leaving it to the State Governments, the Central SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: The Government should take steps to make the recommendations have been made in detail. wasteland cultivable and to allot it to the I can assure you that in the coming few years landless and the unemployed. The Govern- you will see many, many changes and many, ment should also make a provision for the many new efforts which have never been loans and the grants to be given for installing thought of before will be coming in so that the tubewells for irrigating the land so allotted so status of women could be changed. that the poor may rise above poverty line permanently and the wasteland may also be utilised. By making the land available, timely SHRI MURLI DEORA (Bombay South): recovery of the loans may also be ensured Why don't you amend the Hindu Succession and agriculture produce may also increase. Act? Besides. unemployment too may be contained. SHRIMATI MARGARET ALVA: We will 481 Matters under AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Rule377 482

[English) that Goa is a tourist place visited by lakhs of foreign tourists every year, the Government (il) Demand for research by Spices should improve the foreign mail s9rvice also. Board In order to check 'Quick , After the Postal Circle is created, it is essen- win' disease affecting pepper tial that three Postal Divisions at Panaji, crop In Kerala and to pay com- Margao and Mapsa are created. Speed Post pensation to the affected farm- service which has yet not seen the light of the ers. day must be introduced in the important towns of Goa Mail, which is brought to Goa PROF. P .J. KURIEN (idukki): The pep- by air, still takes four d3ys to reach the hands per cultivation is threatened by a fatal dis- of the addressees. ease known as quick witt. The pepper vines lose their leaves quickly and become use- In the circumstances, I would like to less. The disease is quite widespread in request the Union Government that along Kattappana. Nedumkandam and Kumali in with the creation of a Postal Circle for Goa, the Idukki district of Kerala. No remedies a review of working of postal machinery by prescribed by the authorities have so far undertaken so as to bring the necessary proved successful. The growers have tried changes in the postal set-up in Goa. many pesticides but these have proved ut- terly useless. [ Trans/ation]

h is feared that the production would fall by 50 per cent this year due to this disease. (Iv) Demand for sending a central This is going adversely affea the growers team to Himachal Pradesh to who are mostly small farmers and the econ- assess the damage caused by omy of the State. heavy rains and provide necessary assistance. It is, therefore. requested that the Spices Board should establish research centres to study about the disease and find SHRI K.D. SUlTANPURI (Simla): Sir. a remedy and also steps may be taken to due to heavy rains in Himachal Pradesh, all compensate the farmers who suffered the village link roads have been rendered losses due to this disease. unmotorable. There is a loss of crores of rupees to every district and the crops to potat~, paddy and corn have been de- (Iii) Demand for a separate posta I stroyed. Besides. apples, pears, peaches, circle for Goa and Improve-- apricots and plums have all been destroyed. rnent In postal services A number of houses have collapsed and people have fallen a prey to death. We are grateful to the Hon. Prime Minister for his SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Panaji): visit to Una and Simla and for holding a The State of Goa is presently having a Postal l'l1.eeting with the officials. He has arranged Division and the same is under Pune Re- relief funds for the people of state. The State gion. Goa, when it was a part of the Union Government is not in a position to make Territory of Goa, Daman and Diu, one could good and present losses. understand treating of Goa as merely a Division. Therefore, my submission is that cen- Now that Goa is a full-fledged State, the tral team should be sent to Himachal Ministry of Communications should take Pradesh and assistance should be provided immediate steps to upgrade Goa Postal '1S per the report subm itted by the State Division into a circle. Besides. considering Government. 483 Mtatsrs under NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Ru/e377 484

(v) Demand for financial and (vi) Demand for clearance to other assistance to Uttar scheme submitted by Pradesh Government to meet D.R.D.A. for construction of drought situation In certain cemented drains In Gang parts of the State Nahar and Bhakhra Nahar areas of Ganganagar district In Rajasthan SHRI UMAKANT MISHRA (Mirzapur): Sir, there is drought situation in eastern part SHRI BIRBAL (Ganganagar): Mr. Dep- of Uttar Pradesh and Bundelkhand districts uty Speaker, Sir, irrigation facilities in Gan- because of no rains since two and a half ganagar district are available through Gang months. The kharif crop there has been Nahar, Bhakhra Canal and Indira Nahar totally destroyed and there is no possibility Project. In Gang Nahar and Bhakhra Canal left for the sowing of the Rabi crop due to the project area most of the water drains are lack of moisture in the soil. There are no kachcha and as such water does not reach sources of irrigation in Mirzapur and Var- upto the last part of the field and most of the anasi districts. Many agriculture labourers water goes waste. The approval for the and farmers in the development blocks of construction of cemented drains is granted Mirzapur district, who have been affected by under R.L.E.G.P. and N.R.E.G.P. program- drought, are running from pillar to post in mes. In the year, 1987-88, cemented drains search of jobs. The problem of drinking were sanctioned for 97 places in distrid water scarcity is already there in many vil- Ganganagar, most of which have already lages of these blocks. The farmers, are very been completed. If this year also a separate much worried as there are no chances of the project is approved under R.L.E.G.P. and sowing of Rabi crop. Therefore, my submis- cemented drains are constructed in 100 vil- sion is that in order to face the immediate lages at a cost of Rs. 8 crores, 20 thousand drought situation in those areas, the recov- acres of additional land could be provided ery of all state taxes should be postponed with irrigational facilities and approximately and the small landless farmers should be 13 lakhs of man days could be created as given financial assistance. Under the also 14 thousand poor families could be N.R.E.P. and R.L.E.G.P. drought relief pro- provided employment. A project note has grammes, construction of ponds, wells, been submitted by D.R.D.A. in this regard. dams, canals and roads etc. should be started in drought-struck areas covering My submission, therefore, is that the each village so that people may get employ- Central Government should take necessary ment and foodgrains. Arrangements for the action in the matter. sowing of the Rabi crop should also be made by providing help for the pumping sets etc. [English] wherever water is not available. At least 2-3 fair price shops for foodgrains should be (vII) Demand for further research opened in the rural areas. Order should be on the use of Ramie, a staple given to install handpumps at important fibre, and its popularisation In points in the villages facing acute problem of the country. the scarcity of drinking water. The pipeline schemes should also be started for making SHRI ATAUR RAHMAN (Barpeta): the drinking water available. Construction of Ramie is an age-old stapled fibre grown in wells should also be undertaken. South-East Asia including China and As- sam. The fibre of this plant is mentioned in My submission to' the Government is the old calssics and recent history. It grows that the Uttar Pradesh Government should naturally in all the States of North-East India. be given financia, assistance in this regard. It is a crop like jute which does not have a 485 Mattsrs under AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Ru1B377 486 long gestation period unlike tea, coffee and Patiyali. having a population of 25 thousand. rubber and has the additional advantage of It is a town area and the largest number of two to three crops a year in the rainfed area. the people belonging to minority communi- Long Ramie fibres are very strong and at the ties in the districts live here. There is a same time the product has the fineness of railway line and railway station at a distance silk and firmness of plastic fibres through it is of about one kilometer from this town. There a vegetable fibre. It has lustre and tansibility is also a hospital, overhead water tank and and can take brilliant dyes without the risk of electric supply in the town. This town is also fading in strong sunlight. connected with District Headquarters through road. But it is a regretting that there Uses of Ramie fibra are manifold - is only one school which provides education from fine clothes and strong threads for up to 8th class. There is no school for higher fishing nets to parachute cords to belts, study even at a distance of 5 kms from this hose-pipes, cigarette paper and even paper town. for currency notes. The Government is opening Navodaya Unfortunately, such a potential national Vidhyalayas in every district. 30 acres of wealth has neither been appreciated nor land which is required for opening such a taken care of by the Central and the State school has been reserved by the town area Governments. There is an experimental near the town and until the school building is Research Station at Sorbhog in my consti- complete, the children can study in the exist- tutency under the Jute Agricultural Re- ing building. My submission to the Central search Institute, Barrackpore, West Bengal, Government and especially to the Ministerof for which adequate funds for real research Education is that Navodaya Vidyalayas and expansion are not being provided. should be opened in this town keeping the 15 point programme and the number of the A special committee of experts should people of minority communities here in view. immediately go into the question of popu- I hope that the Government will consider this larising this remunerative crop from which matter. Governments can earn as welf. [English] [Translation] (Ix) Demand for classifying (viII) Demand for a Navodaya Ramanathapuram town In Vidyalaya In Bhargaln town In Tamil Nadu as Ie' class city. Etah district of Uttar Pradesh SHRI P.KOLANDAIVELU (Gobichetti- SHRI MOHD. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN palayam): In Ramanathapuram the Depart- (Etah): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, district Etah ment of Post, the Department of Telecom, in Uttar Pradesh is one of the backward the Department of Customs and Central districts and one of the reason for its back- Excise, the Department of Railways, the wardness is the absence of good educa- Department of Field Publicity are located. At tional institutions in the district. Unemploy- present, Ramanathapuram is an unclas- ment has been on a rise there, conse- sified city for the purpose of grant of HRAI quently, the youths are getting inclined to CCA. Ramanathapuram District was formed crimes and incidents of dacoity murder etc. on 15.3. 1985 with Ramanathapuram as are very frequent there. There are no indus- headquarters. With the formation of district, tries there where the youths may get some all State Government distrid offices as well job. as private enterprises have shifted from Madurai to Ramanathapuram resulting in In my Parliamentary Constituency, increased cost of living and scarcity of ac- there is a town Bhargain, situated in t9hsil commodation. The population in 1986 was 487 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 488

[Shri P. Kolandaivelu] ity tribes in Mizoram namely Pawis, Lakhers 52,000. This itself qualifies the declaration of and Chakmas. In Tripura, the Sixth Sched- the city as a IC' class city according to the ule provisions are applicable to two-thirds of conditions prescribed by the Ministry of Fi- the State covering both tribals and the plains' nance, Department of Expenditure. The men. In Assam, the District Council areas Government of Tamil Nadu has upgraded consist areas inhabited by the tribals the status of Ramanathapuram Municipality whereas the majority are plains men. In to the selection grade for better administra- Meghalaya, except the Shillong Canton- tion. This has resulted in increase of house ment area and the small portion of Shillong tax, water tax, property tax, etc. This is also municipality, the whole of Meghalaya is one of the factors forthe higher cost of living. governed by the District Council Areas con- Ramanathapuram is a place of religious sisting of Khasis, Garos and Jaintias, which importance for Hindus and Muslims and the are the major tribes. recent inauguration of the IPamban Bridge' on Sethupathi National Highway has re- Hon'ble Members might recall that sulted in a huge influx of pilgrims. So it is very Tripura was included in the Sixth Schedule in appropriate to classify the city as Class jC' 1984 through a Constitutional amendment. for the purpose of grant of HRAICCA for the Over a period of time, the minority tribals of Central Government employees. I request Mizoram covered under the Sixth Schedule the Minister of Finance to issue necessary have come to feel that their autonomy under instructions in the matter. the Sixth Schedule will be made meaningful and they can achieve speedier progress if overall control of the Stat~ Government over them in matters like approval of the rules 14.28 hr•. made by the District Councils, nomination of their members, appointment of Commission SIXTH SCHEDULE TO THE to inquire into their administration, their dis- CONSTITUTION (AMENDMENT) BILL solution etc. IS relaxed. In their view, the powers under the State Schedule have not [English] always been exercised by the State Govern- ment for the betterment of of the interest of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the tribal minorities. They have, therefore, MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI represented that the Governor should exer- SONTOSH MOHAN DEV): J beq to move: cise powers in his discretion in these mat· ters. "That the Bill further to amend the Sixth Schedule to the Constitution of India in its In the Memorandum of Settlement on application to the States of Tripura and Mizoram, there is a provision that the rights Mizoram, be taken into consideration." and privileges of the minorities in Mizoram as envisaged in the Constitution shall con- The provisions of the Sixth Schedule to tinue to be preserved and protected. Simi- the Constitution have evolved a separate larly, in the Memorandum of Settlement of scheme for the administration of the Tribal Tripura, there is a commitment to the protec- areas in Assam, Meghalaya, Mizoram and tion of tribal interests. It is, therefore, pro- Tripura through the institution of District posed to apply the provisions of this Amend- Councils or Regional Councils. These Dis- ment Bill to the States of Mizoram and trict Councils in the Sixth Schedule area Tripura. differ from State to State so far as their composition is concerned. Mizoram is a pre- The Sixth Schedule to the Constitution dominantly tribal area where Mizos are the (Amendment) Bill, 1988 seeks to provide pre-dominant tribe. The Sixth Schedule more autonomy for the District Councils in provisions have been provided to the minor- Mizoram and Tripura and also discretionary 489 Sixth Schsduls to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (smdt.) bill 490

powers to the Governor in dealing with cer- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No I will give tain provisions of the Sixth Schedule to the him time ..... Constitution. It is hoped that after bestowing these powers on District Councils on ( Interruptions) Mizoram and Tripura and also discretionary powers on the Governor of Mizoram and SHRI E. AYVAPU REDDY (Kurnool): Tripura, the District Council areas in these No, Sir, he will initiate. two States will make speedier progress while preserving their identity. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: How can you say that he will initiate? A separate Bill to extend to Assam the provisions of the Sixth Schedule to the SHAI BASUDEB ACHARIA (8ankura): Constitution (Amendment) Bill, 1988 will Why not? ... (Interruptions). also be brought forward, if considered necessary. MR. OEPUlY SPEAKER: It is letl to the Chair whom to calL ... With these words, Sir, I beg to move that the Bill be taken into consideration. ( Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: It is not left moved: to the Chair. It is certainly not left to the Chair.... (Interruptions). "That the Bill further to amend the Sixth Schedule to the Constitution of India in PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You its application to the States of Tripura follow the procedure, Sir. Sqmetimes the and Mizoram, be-taken into rtonsidera- first party whose strength is third in number, tion." the first two parties say that they are prepared to leave it to him. You have allowed us. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes, what do On a number of occasions, though you call you want? the speakers on the basis of their strength, sometimes when they have given in writing SHRI G.G. SWELL (Shillong): I want to that they do not mind whether 'X' or 'V' ..... speak, Sir. ( Interruptions).

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I wi" call you MA. DEPUTY SPEAKER: That hap- when the time comes ... pens when supposing Telugu Desam's time comes and they refuse to speak, then the ( Interruptions) Communist Party is given the chance. Like that, when all are refusing, then I go to the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will call him Congress ..... when the time comes ..... ( Interruptions)

( Interruptions) SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Nobody is refusing. We are giving the priority to him ..•. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Ra- ( Interruptions) japur): I will tell you why we are raising that point. Three part1es have given in writing that MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I will give a they are prepared to give their time to him in chance to him also ... case in normal course you are not allowing him to speak. ( Interruptions) 491 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 492

SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: It is not a SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: This question of giving him a chance. Please is a rule, this is not a question of conven- listen to me, Sir.... (Interruptions). tion .... (Interruptions).

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: If none PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: There is allowed to give up our priority ..... (Interrup- are a number of occasions when in my tions). favour other two Members whose names were first, have said that they do no mind ... MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you are not ( Interruptions). interested in Telugu Desam, then I will call the Communist Party. Like that only it will MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr. Swell is come. in which party now?

SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: He is a (Bolpur); Sir, I am on a point of order. If you member of the House. kindly look at rule 350, it says: "When a member rises to speak, his name shall be MA. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Then why called by the Speaker. If more Members thnn are you asking him to be called? I can call one rise at the same time, the member any Member then. Why the Opposition is whose name is so called shall be entitled to telling me to call him? Any Member of the speak." Now, here, only he rose .... (Interrup- House I can call who has given his name. I tions). have got the list. It is left to the Chair ...

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No. I have (Interruptions) received the names. So many Members have already given their names. SHRr SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Sir, I have read out Rule 350 regarding the proce- SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: This dure to be followed now. What is your ruling is the rule; I am reading the rule. on that? (Interruptions)

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Rises means SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL (Erandol): Sir, I what? Then it is left to the Chair to calL ... have given my name already. I was the first man to speak. (Interruptions) PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: On SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: No. If which Bill you want to speak? more than one Member rises at the same time .... (Interruptions). SHAI VIJAY N. PATIL: I am referring to the Constitution Amendment Bill moved by SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: You call the Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev. (Interruptions) CPI (M) Member. We are prepared to sit. .... ( Interruptions). MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Please read the latter part of Rule 350. SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: What is your ruling, Sir, to my point of order? .... ( Interruptions) ( Interruptions) SHRI SOMNATH CHATIERJEE: Ac- cording to Rule 350, if there is no other MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Even Mr. speaker, then you should call him first to Patit also has sent me his name .... speak.

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SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL: I have also given amend the Sixth schedule to the my name. I should be called to speak first. Constitution in its application to the State of ( Interruptions) Tripura and Mizoram. Afterthis Bill is passed and it becomes Law. it will strike a heavy SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: It is blow on the rights and privileges of the Tribal not a matter of convenience. Here you have people of Tripura and Mizoram. This will curb to follow the rule. the rights and powers of the District Councils MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you are which have been bestowed on them under creating a precedent. then it will happen the Sixth Schedule of the constitution of every time. Generally. first I call the Member India. Sir, what the Government has said in from the Opposition side to speak. Now. are support of this amending Bill is at total vari- we following the same procedure? ance with the actual provisions of the Bill. What the Hon'ble Minister has said while (Interruptions) introducing this Bill will have no relation to it after it is passed and becomes taw. I will SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: If a request mention in due course about the existing comes to us that a particular Member being provisions of the various paragraphs and an expert in a particular subject wants to what will be the effect of the amendments initiate debate, we may concede. (Interrup- tions) thereto as proposed in this Bill. According to the existing provisions of the Constitution. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Every Mem- the District Councils with the approval of the ber has a right to speak. Now, he has the Governors could perform various types of right to speak and I will given him a chance developmental work like construction of to speak. roads. setting up of village councils and village courts, disposal of minor legal mat- ( Interruptions) ters, enforcement of the provisions of civil procedure and criminal procedure codes PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Now. etc. etc. But after these amendments to the the point is that you will give him time to Sixth Schedule are passed. all the powers of speak. the District Councils will be curbed to a great MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes. I will extent. Sir, the provisions of the Sixth Sched- give him an opportunity to speak. ule have evolved a separate scheme for the administration of the tribal areas in the North SHGI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Now Eastern States of Assam, Meghalaya. that you are giving him a chance to speak. I Mizoram and Tripura through the institution am not pressing you to give your ruling on the of District Councils or Regional Councils. point of order raised by me. But the proposed amendments are applicable to the Tripura and Mizoram only, and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, Shri not to Assam and Meghalaya. I do not under- Baju Ban Riyan, you may speak. stand why these amendments have been brought forth. It may be that the present [ Translation] Government of Tripura formed by the Con- gress (I) with the support of Tripura Upa/ati ·SHRI BAJU BAN RIYAN ( Tripura Yuva Samiti wants to prevent the smooth East): Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir. The Sixth working of the District Councils there formed schedule to the constitution (amendment) by Left Front Government; by curbing their Bill, 1958 is before us. This Bitt.seeks to

·Translation of the speech Originally delivered in Bangali. 495 Sixth Schsdu/s to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bHl 496

[Shri 8aju Ban Riyan] graph 2. Here, while forming the District powers through this amendment. In fact they Council of 30 mambers. the Governor was wanted to dissolve the Distt. Council. That is empowered to nominate 4 members. This why they set up a Commission to report could be done by the Governor himself. But against the Distt. Council. But they failed in after this amendment, the Governor will be their efforts because tho Supreme Court able to do that. The State Government will came in their way. and thwarted their efforts interfere in that and the Governor will have to in this direction. Therefore this Bill has been nominate those persons whom the State brought forth as a Political ve.ldatta or re- Government will recommend. venge. Now all the works of the District Councils will have to be done with the ap- Paragraph 4. According to the provi- proval of the Government. Out of the twenty sions of this para, the autonomous District paragraphs of the Sixth Schedule, nine Council could set up village councils and paragraphs are sought to be amended. village courts in the District. Under para- These are paras 1,2,4,5,6, 9,14.15, and 16. graph 5 the District Councils could, in con- In these paras it has been laid down howthe sultation with the Governor, decide how to Governor will function at present. But after enforce the civil procedure code of 1908 and para 20B, para 2088 has been inserted in the Criminal procedure Code of 1898 in their the amending Bill which will result in the areas. In fact they are doing it at present. But amendment of the aforesaid paragraphs. after thiS amendment IS passed, the Gover· After this amendment is carried out, t~e nor or the District Council wiJI not be able to District Councils will not be able to go what- do thut on its own. The approval of the State ever they are doing at present. What are the Government will be necessary in this matter. District Councils doing at present? In sub- They will be able to do it if the State Govern- para 2 and 3 of paragraph 1, it is provided at ment permits otherwise not. present that if the District Council wants to re-define its boundaries, to increase or to Paragraph 6. This para prOVides for decrease its area of jurisdiction or to add or powers to the District Councils for some to take away some areas, they could do that developmental works like. opening of pri- in consultation with the Governor. If it so mary schools, dispensaries, markets, pro- desired, it could form one or more autono- viding water transport for crossing rivers. mous region also. It could exclude or include and canals, providing roads, opening of fish- some areas if it wanted to do 1hat. In such eries etc. Wherever District Councils have matters the decision of the Governor was been formed, they are doing these works at final according to the existing provisions. But present with the approvar of the Governor. after they are amended, the Governor will After the amendment, all powers will be not be able to do anything without the ap- taken away from the District Councils in this proval of the State Government, that means regard. They will be able to work only when that the District Councils will also not be able permitted by the State Government, within to do anything. The District Councils will lose the area of a district council. There are all powers to form autonomous regional natural resources like minerals etc. in some Councils, new District Councils or to in- places in the country. The State Govern- crease or decrease its area. It will have to ment has to pay a Royalty to the District work according to the dictates of the State Council for exploiting and utilising those Government. So much forthe amendment of natural resources. In the existing provisions paragraph 1. it has not been specified within what period that royalty is to be paid. In the amendment Now about sub-para 1 and 7 of para- it has been laid down that it must be paid 497 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHA YANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 498 within one year. We do not oppose it. Here I it before the State assembly. The assembly will suggest that this payment should be will not come in the picture at all. There1ore, made within the current financial year i.e. I will say that the rights of the legislature has within 31 st March, whatever may be the date also been curbed through this amendment. of the agreement. Now itwiIJ requirethe approval of the Council of Ministers. The Council of Ministers is not Under the existing Jaw, if someone the legislative assembly. The Hon. Ministers wants to start trading activities wIthin the surely understands that the council of Minis- area of District Council, he wifl require a ters is not the assembly. Hence this provi- licence from the District Council. But the sion is being amended by curbing the rights licence will be necessary for non-tribals only. and powers of the assembly_ The tribals were not required to obtain any licence. The amendment provides that from Sir, after this amendment is rassed, the now on everybody will be required to obtain very objective of the framers of the a licence he may be tribal or a non-tribal. I Constitution will be defeated. The tribals of support this provision. Everyone should the north eastern region of our country have obtain a licence. But tribals of a State live some special characteristics. The geo- outside the District Councils areas also. We graphic situation of those areas is very spe- want to give them also opportunities. For the cial. In Nagaland the tribals are in a majority. improvement of trade and Commerce in a Whichever party may come to power there, District Council area, the Scheduled Tribes the tribals will run the Government. In living outside the District Councils should Meghalaya also the tribals are in a majority. also be allowed to carry on trading activities There too they will run the Government, therein. According to the proposed amend- whichever party may, come to power there, ment, the tribals living outside the area of a the tribals will run the Government. Distrid Council will not get an opportunity to trade in their area. This will result in a dispar- But in Assam the tribals are in minority ity between the rights of these two catego- and the non-tribals are in majority. In Tripura ries of tribals. May be this is being done also the position is the same, i.e. the tribals intentionally. are in a minority though before independence they were in a majority. After Inde- Under the existing paragraph 16, the pendence during long 28 years of Congress Governor is empowered to set up a commis- rule there, due to historical reasons large sion if he finds severe flaws in the working of number of non-tribal refugees came over in the autonomous District Councils. He can this State from the erstwhile East-Pakistan dissolve the District Council on receiving an which is Bangladesh at present. The Gov- adverse report and order fresh elections. He ernment did not make any arrangements for can also, in the alternative, appoint an their livelihood. They settled on the land of administrator with the approval of the State the tribals. In this way overthe years the non- Legislature. But after the amendment, the tribals have outnumbered the tribals and the Governor will not be able to act in this man- original tribals have become a minority. The ner. He will have to take the perm ission of the tribals of Tripura are afraid that their inter- State Government. At present he has to lay ested are not safe in the hands of the New his proposals in this respect before the leg- Bengali Immigrants. An organisation of islative assembly _The assembly approves it these Bengali majority is called' Aamra and thereafter the Governor can implement 8angaU'. They are actually a part of the it. This is the present position. But after the Congress when the Congress is in power. law is amended, he will not be required to lay Their slogan is IAII the Bengalis of the world 499 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29. 1988 constitution (amdt.) bl1l 500

[Shri Baju Ban Riyan] . . . Government does not do that? Our experi- unite and form a Bengallstan In Tnpura. ence is that the State Government do not "They are actually a part of the Congress. protect their interests in those places. In Tripura if the Congress looked after the [Eng/ish] interests of the tribals properly when they were in power there for long 28 years after SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: During independence, then today the tribals would last elections your Government gave 45 not have been reduced to a minority there. vehicles to the IAamra Bangali', I was there. They ignored the interest of the Tribals. That You gave them 45 new vehicles. Let him is why the present crisis has arisen. Whey is challenge. there this provision of District Councils in the Sixth Schedule to the Constitution? It is there [ Trans/ation] because, if the State Government does injustice to the tribals or minorities, the District SHRI BAJU BAN RIVAN : It is a wrong Councils will remedy the situation. If the information. In fact you gave them hundreds State Government protects their interests of vehicles. Sir, the people of Tripura very and does justice to their cause then the well know on whose side the 'Aamra Bangali' District Councils are not necessary. Our are. The Han. Minister may not know. The experience is that even after 40 years of present coalition Government of the Con- independence the interest of the tribals in gress and the Upajati Juva Samiti in Tripura any State in the north-eastern region has not is not protection any interests of the tribals been looked after to the extent it was desired there. There is a provision of 29.p.c. reser- and was necessary. In other states of the vation in jobs for them. This is not being country the situation is still worse. For ex- fulfilled. In the Tripura Road Transport Cor- ample in Bihar, the tribals are being slaugh- poration and the departments that the Chief tered like cattle. I do not believe that there will Minister is in charge many posts have been be a solution to the difficulties and problems filled, but the tribals are not being given their of the tribals so long as this Congress Gov- quota of jobs. The experience of the people ernment will remain at the Centre which is of Tripura in ten-month old Congress rule is, influenced by the bourgeois and the land- that this Government is being influenced by lords. The present condition wi" continue. In the ideas of Chauvinism of the Bengali ma- this situation, in the north eastern region jority. Under their influence the Government where the Sixth Schedule is in force and the is carrying out the amendments to the Sixth tribals have some rights and powers, there Schedule so as to give more power in their too the Government wants to snatch away hands. Their grudge is that they are unable those powers and hand it over completely to to dissolve the present District Council and the State Governments. Here I will like to to hand it over to the Congress and Vuva mention that Shri Rajiv Gandhi during his Samiti. Sir, the framers of the Constitution election campaign in Mizoram in 1987 had provided the Sixth Schedule to protect the promised the people of Mizoram in his elec- interests of the tribals. The tribals are there tion speech that the Sixth Schedule will be in many States. Somewhere they are in a amended to give more powers to the District majority and somewhere they are in a minor- Councils. A news item was published in the ity. Where they are in a majority as in 'Shillong Times; in its issue dated 14.2.1987 Nagaland or ~ 'ghalaya, we can say that the under the caption 'PM: more powers to Dis- interests of the tribals are being more or less trict Councils' which quoted the Prime Minis- protected. But where they are in a minority, ter as saying that more powers will be given who will protect their interests if the State to the District Councils. But actuany what is 501 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHA YANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 502 being done? Whatever little power the Dis· this Bill to snatch away all the powers from triet Councils had, is being snatched away the District Councils and to make them from them and handed over to the State impotent. That is why we are opposing this Government. so that the District Councils Bill. This Bill was introduced in this House may not move a step forward without the without our knowledge; This Bill was intro· permission and approval of the State duced on the 5th of September, 1988. On Governments. They will have to act accord- that day we had boycotted the House as a ing to the dictates of the State Government. protest against the maltreatment and atroci- If the State Governments refuse to give them ties committed by the Central Police on the funds. they will have no funds. if the State M.L.As and Ministers of Andhra Pradesh, Government says that they will not be al- who are the elected representatives of the lowed to appoint teachers in the primary people. schools. it cannot be done. That means even the smallest process of the District Councils 15.00 hrs. to function are being withdrawn. Hence the purpose of the Sixth Schedule in our The Government took that opportunity Constitution will be completely defeated af- to introduce this Bill on that day. Otherwise ter this amendment Bill is passed. This will we would have objected to the introduction disturbthe equal rights existing forthe tribals of this Bill. They could have not it passed on in the States of the northeastern r~gion like that day itself. I do not know what prevented Assam. Nagaland. Mizoram and Tripura them. May be the required majority for pass- because this amendment is meant only for ing this Constitution amendment Bill was not Tripura and Mizoram. After this Bill is available on that day ! However, we are passed, the District Councils will have no placing our views before the House, the functions to perform. The District Councils Government may listen to it or not. In the end will be reduced to Gram Panchayats or small Sir, I will request the Han. Minister, I will municipalities, may be even less. Was this request the Government and all the Hon. the purpose of keeping the Sixth schedule in members of the treasury benches to please the Constitution? withdraw this Bill. After that. if you want the welfare of the tribals, if you want to combat 14.59 hrs. the secessionist movements in the entire [SHRI SHARAD DIGHE-in the chain north eastern region as you have hurt the sentiments of the tribals there, then I think [English] you should delete the words 'Council of Ministers:" appearing in Section 2088 of this MR. CHAIRMAN : Please conclude. Bill. Here you should provide that the Gover- nor shall act in consultation with the District SHRI BAJU BAN RIVAN : Kindly give Council'. Then I feel the interest of the tribals me a few more minutes. I am concluding. will be protected. I will stress and repeat what I have said. MR. CHAIRMAN: Total time allotted for the Bill is two hours and you have taken 25 [English] minutes. SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV : The SHRI BAJU BAN RIVAN : I am finishing. Hon. Member has not understood the Bill. What he is saying, it is the spirit of this 8HI, I [ Translation] think, I may be wrong - that all powers have been given to the Governor to discuss with Sir, the Government has brought forth the district council and decide. What you are 503 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 504

[Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev] The Hon. Prime Minister assured them that saying is in the Bill. I may be wrong in he will look into their grievances. But nothing projecting it. I would request you to go has come out. Therefore, I once again re- through the Bill because whatever you have quest you to withdraw this Bill. With that Sir, said is in the Bill. I once again oppose this Bill and conclude my speech. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: (Basirhat) : But the Governor cannot do it, now? [English]

SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: No. ~ HRI DINESH GOSWAMI: (Guwahati) Now it is the State Government and on their : MY'. Chairman, there are two types of provi- advice, the Act can do it. This is the conflict sions in this Bill. One by which the royalty coming. So we have given the discretionary which is deJa to the District Council- now a powers to the Governor. What he ·is saying, time limit has been fixed and within this time everything is in the Bill. I think you are a bit limit the royalty shall have to be paid. I am in confused. You kindly have a fresh look at the favour of it. On the money lending, there was Bill. I fully agree with your speech. control on the money lending only for non Scheduled Tribe; that provision has been Whatever you have said, I am fully in extended to the Scheduled Tribes also. I agreement with you. welcome it.

[ Translation] But I feel this Bill is one of the retrograde Bills that has been brought in this House. I SHRI BAJU BAN RIVAN : Sir, I am feel that my learned friend who spoke in this speaking what I understand from the provi- debate has not really understood the spirit of sions of this Bill. I do not find any conformity this Bill. The spirit of the Bill is to confer all the between what the Minister is explaining and powers to the Governor, completely bypass- what has been provided in this Bill. The Staia ing the State Legislature. The spirit of the Bill assembly is being ignored. Everything is to is that it goes against the basic character of be done by the Councils of Ministers. The tna Constitution. The basic character of the State Assembly is being side-tracked. Is it Constitution is that this country is not to be proper? I again stress that the words' Coun- ruled by non elected head, the Governor. but cil of Ministers' may be deleted as I have the real ruler of the country is the eleded stated earlier. Another amendment will have representative of the people, the Govern- to be carried out. There is no agreement ment and the Legislature. But this Act will between what has been stated in the 'Ob- completely bypass the elected legislature. jects and reasons' of this Bill and the actual One single man who acts on the command of content of this BilL This is what I understand. the Central Government here will do every- I do not know how you interpret them. I will thing and that is why all the discretionary again urge upon you to withdraw this Bill. powers have been given. The tribals of the entire north eastern belt is against this amendment. Nobody supports What has been sought to be attempted it. To protest against this Bill and to vent their is that the District Council henceforth will be feelings against it, the executive members of ruled by the Central Government at the dic- the Distrid Councils of north eastern States tate of the Prime Minister. This Bill is against like Tripura, Meghalaya etc. met the Prime the very spirit in which the Government Minister in September last. I do not remem- promised a discussion on the Sarkaria ber the date. They met the Prime Minister. Commission's recommendations. When we 505 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAVANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 506 are debating for greater devolution of power posed it but even his trusted friend Mr. Lald- to the State Governments, we have brought enga has opposed it. I do not know about the a Bill by which the State Governments have Tripura Government. These three govern- become non-existent in so far as the Sixth ments have opposed introduction after very Schedule is concerned. careful and deliberate consideration because they felt this ;s a Malafide Bill. This is The State Government and ~he State a Bm by which the Central Government Assembly will have no power whatsoever. through dubious means is assuming full The Assembly has no power after this Bill is control over the district administration in passed on the vital and important matters. these areas. The Assembly becomes non-existent and the entire power is concentrated in the hands What are the provisions which are of the Governor and that at a time with a sought to be changed. IPara 15 of the Sixth serious debate is going on as to how the Schedule relates to annulment or suspen- Governor is functioning in Andhra Pradesh, sion of acts and resolutions of District and when there is a rift between the Governor Regional Councils. The provisions was if the and the Chief Minister in Bihar. We have had Governor is satisfied that an act or resolution the occasion to make very strong remarks of a District or a Regional Council is likely to against the action of the Governor in endanger the safety of India then he can Nagaland when he dissolved the Assembly. annual or suspend such Act or resolution. This Bill, by conferring all the power to the Sub-para 15 (2) says: Governor opens up a situation where I think we are bringing a confrontation between the "Any order made by the Governor under Governor and the State Legislature and the sub-paragraph (1) of this paragraph entire effort is that by a constitution amend- together with the reasons therefor shall ment, take away power from the State Leg- be laid before the Legislature of a State islature and give it to the Central Govern- as soon as possible and the order shall, ment. unless revoked by the Legislature of the State, continue in force for a period of It is against the basic philosophy of the twelve months ... " District Council. The District Council provisions were incorporated in the Constitution That means the elected representa- with the idea that their own administration tives of people of the State were given the will go nearer to the people. The tribal people power to see whether the order of the Gov- will run the administration. But now it will be ernor by which he has suspended a particu- further away from the power centre of Delhi. lar order of the District Council is just and But when you try to bring back all the power proper, whether it is likely to prejudice public to the power centre of Delhi, to the Central order or it is against the security of the State. Government because the Governor is after- The authority was upon the elected repre- all only a mouth piece of the Central Govern- sentatives of the people of that State to see ment. This goes against the very basic struc- whether the order will endanger the security ture and the philosophy of the district council of the State whereas through the present which was introduced in the Constitution by amendment, any order made by the Gover- the founding fathers. The hon. Minister has nor in this paragraph together with the rea- said this has come in Mizoram and Tripura sons thereof shall be laid before him. Now and will be applied t() Assam and Megha- Governor will pass an order and it will be laid laya. If I am not wrong, not only Assam has before him. I do not understand the logic of opposed it, not only Meghalaya has op- this. The amendment says· by the Legisla· 507 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 508

rShri Dinesh Goswamil comprehend such a situation where the lure of the Stat,,' has b~en deleted. Now the Governor has been given such wide powers. sub-para (2) will read like this: Afterall if the District Council is to develop it can only develop provided there is a rapport II Any order made by the Governor under and understanding between the elected sub-paragraph (1) of this paragraph representatives of the people of that region. together with the reasons therefor shall After all. in the State Legislature, people be laid before him as soon as possible from that region are also represented. You and the order shall, unless revoked by cannot develop a particular region if there is him continue in force for a period of a total constant friction between the State twelve months ... Legislature and the District Council and a Governor, as a super-constitutional power is I believe there cannot be more ridicu- given powers not conceived of in this lous amendment than time. The Governor Constitution. In the background of what has has been made the final authority to decide happened in Andhra Pradesh, where the and determine whether the security of the decision of the Chief Minister about appoint- country has been threatened or whether ment of Lok Ayukta is not signed even something is prejudicial to the interests of though constitutionally a Governor is obliged the State. I feel this is against the basic to sign, what has happened in character of the Constitution. Are you pre- Nagaland,wherethe Speaker's order, which pared to give the same powers to the Presi- is not subject to scrutiny by the Governor dent of India and not subject his decision to under the Constitution, a law passed by this the control of Union Executive. So far as the Parliament was subjected to scrutiny by the President is concerned of course the Coun- governor, and in the light of what has hap- cil of Ministers will be the final authority pened also in the other States, I feel that it is because the President has no discretionary a retrograde law, as a result of the malafide power. I feel giving of such wide powers to action of the Government. This is now trying the Governor who is not an elected repre- to dilute the authority of the State Legisla- sentative of the people and is only a figure- tures, is encroaching on the federal charac- head under the Constitution is against the ter of the Constitution and is trying to rule this basic character of the Constitution is against country by devious methods from here the basic character of the Constitution. This alone, through their agents. Therefore, I is going to create friction even where the strongly and totally oppose this amendment. Governor and the elected representatives in I hope if there is some sense in this govern- the State Legislature are acting in harmony. ment, if they want it function better some Now para 16 (3) says" .... It shall cease to coordination is needed betw~en the Gover- operate at the expiration of thirty days." It nor and the State Legislatures. There was exactly the provision similar to that of should be some confidence in the elected the of ordinance. If the Governor type representatives of the people, let us not passes ordinance then State legisla- an the forget that if you mistrust the elected repre- ture had right of scrutiny of that ordinance. a sentatives of your State legislatures, then Now the State legislature has been com- also, we have a right to mistrust you. It is not pletely by-passed. The State legislature has that you come under a separate type of no function. The Governor in the Sixth elections. If a State Legislature can commit, Schedule areas of Mizoram and Tripura and the Union Parliament can commit a mistake. tomorrow Assam and Megha\aya will be The parliamentary democracy rests in main- super -Constltutiona\ authority again over talO\og coolldence in the State Legislatures. \he head 0\ Q\JQt'l State \eg\s\atute. \ cannot \ be\\eve that this is a ma\afide action of the 50~ Sixth Schedu/9 to AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA)constitution(amdt.)bill 510

Government of India by which they are trying understand that he was opposed to the inclu- to control the States through various meth- sion of the Council of Ministers in the list of ods. consultations.

Sports is now brought under the Con- SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: And exclu- current List. There are talking of having sion of Assembly. separate authorities which will go into certain actions of the State Governments which SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH : Sir, I am could not be done under the Constitution. coming to it. Earlier, there has been no This is a part of a great design by which the mentIon of the Assembly. Perhaps that has Central Government wants to acquire upon been amended. This 2208B in an addition itself all the powers and take away more and and it does not affect that provision ... (Inter- more powers from the State Legislatures. ruptions) Therefore, I totally oppose this amendment. And I hope the House will reject it. What I would like to point out is that the Council of Ministers means that they are SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH : (Inner Ma- responsible to the Assembly. And when the nipur): Mr. Chairman, Sir. I fully support this Governor consults the Councils of Ministers, Bill. he is conSUlting a body, the Government of the State responsible to the Assembly. The When we attained Independence, we Council of Ministers do not function in isola- inherited a jungle of disparities, particularly tion. Earlier, the concept of the 6th Schedule in the North-Eastern States. In order to was that the Governor should have special remove these disparities in different as- powers to protect the tribal areas, district pects, the framers of the Constitution had councils and regional councils. They have provided this protection, particularly the been enjoying special facitities. Now with the Sixth Schedule of the Constitution. mention of the Council of Ministers in the list of consultations perhaps, I can understand The main object of the Sixth Schedule of that the tribals feel that the special powers of the Constitution is to provide protection to the governor have been interfered with. I can the tribal people, particularly of the North- understand that. But that has been done in East when Assam was a State in which good faith. Sixth Schedule is such a danger- Meghalaya - it was earlier Khasi Hills and ous and diffi,cult weapon unless we handle Garo HiIIs- and then Mizoram were function- it properly.. ing. With the coming up of the new State of Meghalaya and Mizoram, the situation has Let us go to the history of Assam and changed. In spite of the change in the situ- how it was split into units, Meghalaya and ation, the Government and Parliament have Mizoram. Of course, among the North-East- thought it necessary that the Sixth Schedule ern States, the questions of Tripura and should apply to the States of Meghalaya and Manipur were very special, because they Mizoram. were never a part of Assam. But as far as Meghalaya and Mizoram are concerned, Now, we are discussing the application they were in Assam as districts, buy they of the Sixth Schedule with certain amend- were enjoying the Sixth Schedule status. ments to the States of Mizoram and Tripura. What I wanted to mention is that the Sixth I was a little surprised when 1 listened to Mr. Schedule protects the tribals and at the Goswami. As I listened to the hon. CPM same time it gradually segregates and iso- Member from Tripura Mr. Riyan, I could lates the people from the mainstream or the 511 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 512

[Shri N. Tombi Singh] If the principle of autonomy is stretched too majority of people of that province through far, the fear is that the people would become the benign shelter of the Governor. Then, isolated and then they would demand a ultimately a stage comes when the separa- separate state or a separate union territory tion is final and there can be nothing for any for themselves. We have had this sort of further harmony. So, naturally new States experience in Assam before. Therefore, in had to come up. Now, we cannot afford to order to safeguard and protect their rights see further split of the North-Eastern States. and to see that this sort of problems do not They are already too small. When we apply' arise, the Governor can utilise these special this Sixth Schedule, we have to see that the powers. tribals are protected. On the other hand, we should also see that there should be no As I pleaded for small indigenous pock- further split of Tripura. The Tripura tribals are ets in Tripura, I may also plead for similar not very much concentrated in big pockt3ts; pockets in Mizoram because Mizoram is not they are scattered here and there; it is very doubt a tribal State and most of the people difficult for them to have any consolidated follow Christian religion. There are Chakmas plan for their development. In other States and other small communities professing like Mizoram and Manipur, tribals are not Buddhism. Some are professing Hinduism scattered; they are consolidated and con- also. They need protection. Forthat, there is centrated in certain pockets. Tripura is a very all the justification for the Governor to exer- special State. In this respect, I would like to cise his special rights to protect the rights of go with M. Riyan of that side when said that the people. Their rights should be safe- the special powers of the Governor should guarded for furthering harmony and unless not be further interfered with at least in we remove the disparities between different respect of Tripura. This is because the communities and different regions, these Tripura tribals, the indigenous people, who special powers must remain with the Gov- were in majority before independence, they ernment. It appears that even after the pas- have been outnumbered after independ- sage of so many decades after Independ- ence by people who came from outside. ence, even after the application of the Sixth Bangladesh, Naturally I now this protection Schedule in the tribal areas, we have been in the case of Tripura should be a very that the gulf between the minority communi- special protection. The spechl powers that ties and majority communities is rather wid- have been given to the Governor should ening. This is really unfortunate. So, I would remain. like to impress upon the Home Ministry that when they take up constitutional and other I do not view this matter from any politi- legal or developmental measures, they cal angle, because there are Ber'!gali Con- should see that the gulf between different gressman, there are Bengali CPM mem- communities, different regions and even bers, and others. But what I mean to say is different States should be bridged and they that if we want to protect the minority, indige- should be brought closer so that a time may nous people of Tripura, the special powers come when the Sixth Schedule will not be already given to the Tripura Governor necessary at all. If we think that the Sixth should remain with him, so that no further Schedule should be a permanent feature, interference could come from the Council of then perhaps the whole concept or the whole Ministers. Only the Council of Ministers can idea of the constitution framers is completely act in order to stop the possibility of any defeated. They wanted some protection for further split. As I mentioned, Tripura cannot some period of time. But what is the time afford any further spirt. This is a small State. limit? We should have a time-bound schad- 513 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA8,1910 (SAKA)constitution(amdt.)bill 514 ule to remove the Sixth Schedule altogether scopic minorities - there that they are going from our Constituti~n so that we do not need to be extinct and culturally they are going to to protect any ccmmunity because they be massacred. These feelings started con- stand at par with each other. Each of us, flicting and they brought about a kind of whether belonging to this side or that side situation which resulted in holocaust in shou~d look forward to that day when we Tripura. After that, the Government of India have complete harmony and equality among tried its level best to work out a kind of different communities. solution so that these problems can be overcome. I remember very clearly that our Sir, I quite appreciate the present late Prime Minister Smt. Indira Gandhi was amendment because while bringing this very much concerned about that and in amendment, all these aspects have been 1983, she in principle. agree that there must kept in view and due attention has been paid be some kind of protection given to the to all the details. That is why I say that I minorities and to the tribals in Tripura. When support the Bill. Of course, to some extent I we talk about minorities. we must remember understand the apprehension expressed by that at the national level a particular group of the CPI (M) member. His is a very special people may be in a minority, but that particu- case. But it is not possible for me to support lar group of people in a State may be in a his stand when he demands the withdrawal majority. That is where the position stands of the mention of Council of Ministers In the and that IS why this Amendment I feel is very Bill. I would suggest that the Horn~ Ministry appropriate for the microscopic minorities should take steps to see that there is no and tribals in those areas. undue interference in Tnpura by the Council As I said. in 1983 • It was agreed by the of Ministers formed by the majority commu- Government of India under the Prime Mlnis- nlty. I say this irrespectIve of the party, be It tership of Madam Indira Gandhi and since my party or be It an Opposition party. But it IS then a process was started and I must be a fact that the majority community is heading grateful to' our youthful Prime Minister Shri the Ministry there. And this is a hum;1n Rajlv Gandhi that he has picked up the weakness which cannot be completely ruled thread and now he has brought about this out. Therefore. undue interference should Amendment In good spirit and in the real not be allowed with the help of the spirit of Tripura Accord. Governor's special responsibility provided in the Sixth Schedule to protect the rights of the Also. in Mizoram. there is a very small sma" pockets in that State. group of minorities who are Buddhists. In Mlzoram one may feel surprised as to why in With these few words, I support this 8"1. this tribal State, this kind of special protection is required. But this very small group of SHRI P.K. THUNGON (Arunachal people feel very apprehensivG that unless a West) : Sir, I must congratulate the Horne proper protection is given, they are going to Minister and the Prime Minister for bringing be extinct or they are going to be culturally in this Amendment. I can very well recall it massacred. That is why this Amendment Bill afresh that in the year 1983 when I used to will give a real protection to those people frequently visit Tripura. there used to be a lot who are In the microscopic minority in that of confusion and problems. The nation State itself. I need not elucidate further about remembers today to what kind of holocaust the importance of the Bill because the Bill took place in 1980 in Tripura. The main itself speaks about so lucidly that it is meant reason was the fear of the tribal people there for the protection of those people who are and because of the fear of minorities - micro- helpless and who are in a microscopic mi- 515 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 516

[Shri P .K. Thungon] .. . is throughout the country. If you go to nority. Because of hIstorical reasons In Madhya Pradesh, you have tribals; if you go Tripura tho~~e who were living ther~ and to Orissa you have tribt=tls; if you go to Andhra were f(:~nd(!re,j minority are now going to be Pradesh, Tamilnadu, Rajasthan and given this protf-"'!ction. This has been pro- Gujarat, you have tribals. They also need vided fUI Mlzaram also. some kind of protection. But, a1 this stage, we cannot think of bringing all of them in the t would like to come to other plac~s in Sixth Schedule of the Constitution. I would North-Eastern Region where such protec- like to suggest that the only solution to this is, tions are required. V,/i;\ile appreciating and as our han. Prime Minister has been stress- congratulating the han., Home Minister in ing, that if we can give proper powers, bringing this Amer.jment. I would request adequate powers, to the District Administra- you to give such protection to the district tion, if we can decentralise powers from the Councils of Karbi AngkJng and N.C. Hill also. centre to States and then from States to It is because they are also tribals and they Districts, I think in the various districts, the have got a different identity and they need a concentration of the minorities or the people special attention and protection in this re- who are there, their cases can be taken care gard. of. I would like to compare it in a few words. The provisions of our District Councils in north-eastern region , which give a certain Besides, as you are aware, there is a amount of legislative power and a certain group of tribals which is mainly known as amount of administrative power, mean that Boro Tribe. You hav~) seen quite often that the power is developing; the State has to they have also come here in Delhi. They devolve some power to the District Council keep on agitation that they want some kind of so that they can utilise that power for admini- autonomy ; to the extent, they have de- stration and for development of their own. manded some State, that th~-.!fe should be a Lik.ewise, if proper devolution of power is separate Born land, 1here should be sepa- done upto the district level. through pan- rate territory for Bora. Botos are 0 doeth? kind chayats, for planning, for development, I of a tribe and they ate culturally so much in think, almost the similar kind of opportunity the mainstream that they will not have to can be given at least to those who are explain to the rest of the country or to the concentrated in different districts if"' our government concerned that they were origi- country. Therefore, this amendment has a nally the inhabitants of Assam. But due to great relevance so far as north-eastern re- some historical reason, they have a kind of gion of tribals is concerned. And similarly it fear as if they are going to be uprooted and will be of great relevance if the devolution of their culture is gOing to be annihilated. That power up to district level is done by giving the is why this feelings of insecurity is there. I districts more power. That Will protect the would like to suggest to the han. Home minorities and it may be that some may feel Minister through you to solve this problem, if that it is a new idea. But I do not think that it some kind of a provision as envisaged here is a new Idea that we should have a third tier ·--:an be brought in so that Boros can be of governance in our system. Because the safeguarded and their fear can be removed various founding father of our Constitution, from their minds. and tha old leaders of our country , who fought for independence, right from Ma- It is not only in north-eastern region that hatma Gandhi and downward had this main we have such minorities or tribals in various objective of givfno propAr powers to the 517 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 518 ministration and if we now start thinking of Some time back in this House itself. devolution of power and giving a kind of while discussing the Tripura accord, we ~onstitutional recognition to the districts, it is have made certain promises to the tribals of not a new idea but what they had thought wilf Tripura. This amendment to the Sixth be achieved. And we will be doing our duty in Schedule is going to fulfil those promises pursuance of their desires. also.

With these words I support the amend- Our dynamic Prime Minister has. for the ment and I once again congratulate the han. last six to seven months, been stating in Minister for bringing in this Bill. different forums and in public speeches that more powers should be given to the local self SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL ( Erandol) : I rise government, local bodies even in the States, to support this Bill. This Bill has been that is in Zila Parishads and municipalities. brought with a bona fide intention for the The Central Government is thinking from welfare of the tribals.1 was presently hearing this angle. But the Opposition members are the speech of the Opposition member who thinking that the district councils will be spoke first. He has got an opposition party dominated by the State Governments. This I uling government in Tripura, that is his party is the golden medium between the district IS not in Government in Tripura. That is why councils and the State Governments for the he says that this Bill is giving more powers to Northern Eastern States which were till re- the State Governments. While Mr. Goswami cently Union Territories and the State-hood has got his party in power in Assam, he is a recent phenomenon for them. There thinks that the powers of the State legislature should be synchronisation and adjustment are being curtailed. The Bill is the same, the in regard to powers between the State mirror is the same. But the persons looking Governments and the District Councils. My at the mirror are different, and that is why friend Shri Dinesh Goswami was alleging although they are opposing, they are oppos- that giving more power to Governor will ing the Bill from a different angle, with a result in StaTe being ruled by the Centre different language. through tho Governor. It is not so. It is again looking with jaUndice eye at the very good I think that my friend from Tripura was measure, which is being adopted through telling that the powers should not be vested this amendment to the Sixth Schedule. in the Council of Ministers regarding the district councils. I would like to tell him that In the end, I congratulate the Home the district councils are vested with execu- Minister for bringing this amendment with tive, legislative and administrative powers. the overall general outlook of welfare of As far as the executive power is concerned, tribals in the North Eastern Region. at the State level the executive and administrative powers are the same as those vested SHRI G. G. SWELL (Shillong) : MI. in the Council of Ministers. The State legis- Chairman, the furor that preceded the dis- lature passes the legislation. That is why the cussion on this Bill when I get up to speak Council of Ministers can exercise that au- indicated that perhaps some members had thority for certain purposes. But as far as the wrong conception as to what I was going to nomination of four council members is con- say. I would like to assure the Minister right cerned, it is the Governor who has got the at the beginning that I am not raising hell fire discretion to consult !he State legislature as and brimstone over this I. would like to be as Well as the district councils for thA nomina- logical and as analytical as possible. I would tions. like to put these things to you far your serious 519 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 520 rShri G.G. Sw~lI] . the same thing to Tripura and Mizoram, hOnsideration In a constructIve manner. which in my mind, is a good measure because the tribal people or sections of them The long title of the Bill has made it clear have been living under some kind of a feeling that it relates only to the District Councils in that they are being dam inated and not Tripura and Mizoram. Even so, at the the treated fairly. As the Chairman has said that very beginning, I would like to stress this I have only five minutes, I cannot go into the point because there are other District Coun- details. But there are instances of laws cils in Assam and Meghalaya. What are you passed by the Khasi Hill District Council going to do about them? which have never been given assent to or delayed. The Minister himself agrees with Now the Bill itself is a mixed bag. There me. Now, you will give me a little more time. are certain ingredients which are good, but They are being delayed inordinately and in they are minor. There are certain ingredients several cases, the law passed by the District which are wrong, and they are major. As for Council is duplicated by the law passed by example, your proposal to put a time limit for the State Legislature. This kind of thing the State Government to pay the dues to the should not be there if we are going to create District Council on account of share and an atmosphere of goodwill and cooperation royatties or vehicle taxes within a period of for the development of these people. And one yaar is good. That has not been the then you are responding to the demands of experience of the District Council. There is a the people in Mizoram to name the District lot of royalties and taxes collected in the Councils after what they want. That is a good district of Khasi hills. There is vehicle tax. thing. Butthe main objection to this Bill is that They have some kind of arrangement be- it is going to make the Governor the dictators tween the District Council and the State in the country or in that part of the country Government, by which the State Govern- where there are District Councils I fully ment shares fifty per cent and the district endorse what Mr. Dinesh Goswami has said Council shares the other fifty per cent. But . I will be brief. the State Government, over and above the fifty par cent, takes away forty per cent About paragraphs 14 and 1 £> you very towards cost of collection. Even the twenty well know. Paragraph 14 says that the per cent is not given to the District Council. Governor can annul or suspend a resolution Every time a mere advance is 9iven and no of the District Council. If the District Council accounts have ever been rendered as to passes a resolution that is anti national, the how much money has been collected in Governor has the duty to stop that. But then . terms of motor vehicles tax. what the Governor has to do is, normaHy he has to place that before the Legislative Now this provision is quite handsome. I Assembly of the State and unless revoked welcome it. I would like you to kindly take it by the Legislative Assembly of the state up with Meghalaya Government and see State, it will continue for a certain period. that these accounts are properly kept and That is what the old provision says. Now, you maintained, and the share of the District rule out the role of the Legislature. You say Council is given promptly in time. that the Governor will annul or suspend and the Governor in his own discretion may re- You are also doing away with the over- voke. The Legislative Assembly has no part riding power of the State Legislature over in it. In the matter of dissolution, there is a laws enacted by the District Councils. This right for the Governor to dissolve the District prevails in Assam. Now you are going to give Councils for certain reasons-I hope, good 521 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 522 reasons. According to the old provisions, the it would not be necessary to have a closer Governor has to place the order with all the look into this Bill. relevant docum ents before the State Legis- lature and unless it is disapproved by the Since you have rung the bell, I will hurry State Legislature or until it is approved by the up. I take the cue from the Prime Minister. On State Legislature it will continue for some the 21 st of November, of this month, he time. It means, that the State legislature has intervened on a question and he said that he power to approve or dis-approve. But by was considering amending the Act in order your proposed amendment you are going to to give the Panchayats more powers, more do away with that. All that the Governor has money. I think in his recent speech in patna, to do is to place the papers before the State he even talked of a comprehensive amend- legislature and that is all. The State Legisla- ment of the Constitution in order to devolve ture has no right to discuss about it. This is an powers to the grass-root level. I think you objectionable part.And then as my friend Mr. would confirm that he said that. I welcome Dinesh Goswami has pointed and I think, Mr. that. It is a good idea. But I would draw your Reang has also pointed to the new provision attention in particular to what he said in 20 BB , it is not only in the matter of suspen- relation to the District Councils in the North- sion of resolution but in the matter of disso- East. Mr. Reang has drawn your attention to lution of district Council, right across the that. On February 13, 1987, he spoke of board in all the articles in the Sixth Schedule, more powers to the District Councils and he the Governor has been given discretionary assured that the District Councils would be powers. Of course, the Governor has been given direct funding from the Central Gov- given the power to decide and use that ernment in order to help them in their devel- power in his discretion. He may consult the opment. District Council. He may consult the Council I would like to draw the attention of the of Ministers. But he is not bound by the Minister that the role played by the State advice of the District Councilor the Council Governments in relation to the District Coun- of Ministers. Therefore, you are making the cils, especially the State Government of Governor a total dictator In respect of District Meghalaya in relation to the DIstrict Councils Councils and you are bypassing the State in Meghalaya, has been less than step Legislature. I wonder whether this IS a cor- motherly, has been ruthless, has been cyni- rect thing to do. cal. I would like to draw your attention to article 275. It enjoins that there shall be paid We know the lugubrious or obloquous out of the Consolidated Fund of India as roles which some of our Governors have grants in aid of the revenues of a State such played. We know the role of the Governor of capital and recurring sums as may be neces- Nagaland has played in the last political sary to enable that State to meet the costs of upheaval in that State. And the same Gover- such schemes of development to promote nor of Nagaland is the Governor of Tripura. the welfare of the Scheduled Tribes. The We know what role the Governor of Mizoram Central Government has done its duty. I has played. And now before this House and have the figures here. Between the years before this country, we k ow the role that the 1972 and 1985 , the Central Government Governor of Andhra Pradesh has played. has given the governments of Assam and Unfortunately, even in the case of States Meghalaya a sum, of Rs. 226 crores 92 ruled by the Congress Party, the relationship lakhs. Please note that. Out of this entire between the Chief Minister and the Gover- sum, not a single paisa has been given to the nor is far from edifying. In view of all this, I District Council of Khasia. Out of As 3,439 would like you to consider seriously whether lakhs in 1985-86 only As eight lakhs were 523 Sixth Schedul9 to NOVEMBER 29. 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 524

[Shri G.G. Swell] 16.02 hrs. given to the Khas;a District Council. Out of Rs. 2,964 lakhs in 1986-87, only Rs nine [SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM In the lakhs were given and out of Rs 3, 327 lakhs ChaHj in 1987-88 only Rs 9 lakhs were given. These are not fictitious figures. They are nut SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN (Kishan- imaginary figures. They are figures provldod ganj): Mr. Chairman, Sir, this Bill which is by the Chief Minister of Meghalaya on the welcome in some aspects raises some very floor of the Meghalaya Assembly. On April important questions that we must pause and ponder. It seems to me that essentially this 26, 1988. I would like the Ministerto check up Bill is an exercise in ad hocism. We have no with the State Assembly of Meghalaya, with comprehensive blue-print before us as Prof. the Minister in Meghalaya whether these Swell pointed out, even to fit the picture in the figures are correct I know very weill am not North-East of India, far less any indication of that good a speaker as you are. So, I would the visIon thaI the Prime Minister has taJked like to ask you this question about compre- of delegation of authority to the grass-root hensive amending of the Sixth Schedule In level for the country as a whole. the Constitution which you are very well SII, ld hocism has Its limits and re- aware has been before you, before the peated steps taken on ad hoc basis will not Government of India. You had made cert,lln lead us to any coherent solutions or towards proposals from your Ministry, and you have whatever goat we might have in view, on the sent all those proposed amendments to all Constitutional scheme to be evolved in a the district Councils of the State Govern- step-by-step manner. We are supposed to have States and Union Territories. O'Jer a ments and the autonomous District Councils period of time, some of these Union Territo- in the North-East acted with a responsibility ries graduated into States, mini-States, as and they met in a conference in Shil!ong on compared to some giant states of the Union 8th and 9th June this year. They have re- of India. We have this Constitutional idea of sponded to your proposals. They have sent scheduled areas and then we have autono- them to you and they are awaiting you to call mous States and these autonomous States in the North-East have also become States them for more discussions. But Instead of over a period of time. The Fifth Schedule that comprehensive amendment which you doflnes the powers are functions of the have promised, which is on your anVil, whIch sch~duled areas. The Sixth Schedule goes is in your fires only this Bill has come only for to the next level. It speaks of and lays down Tripura and Mizoram and that also with a specl;}1 r8gime for what are called autonomous districts and sub-districts called re- these retrogressive measures of gIvIng lhe gions. So, we have a scheme in which we Governor over-riding powers, diSCI utlonc11 ~I have a tl8r arrangement of States possibly powers which we have not given to the autonomous States, autonomous districts in President of India or anybody else In India. those autonomous States , then autono- Now, in view of this, I think you are sc.1tlsfi8d. mous Regions in those autonomous dis- Mr. Chairman, that I have not been conilo- tricts. Now, what is the grand design? The versial I have not been critical. I am puttIng grand design IS that because of the hetero- genlty of the people who live in a particular facts for consideration; I would like to know part of the country, we want to create as what is it that you have in your mind with homogeneous population blocks as pos- regard to the comprehensive amendments sible. Well, it appears to be a very promising of the Sixth Schedule which will include all idea and that is why the Bill speaks about the the 9 District Councils in the North-Eastern rights of the ethnic minorities; perhaps at the regions. Thank you. back of our mind is the idea that every ethnic 525 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 526

group howsoever small, micro, must have people at the panchayat level. homeland of its own. Sir, I am wedded to the ldea of decentralisation and I think' there PROF. N.G. RANGA: You don't expect must be as much delegation of financial him to say all that now. authority as much devolution of adminislra- tive power downwards as is practically pos- SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Sir, he sible in keepiAg with the larger interest of the ;an at feast give us a hint, just a flash of integrity and security of the country. But, Sir, vision, I am not asking for the moon. I cannot accept that the idea of small regions and small administrative units below the Here we are talking about the powers of district level- in other parts of the country, the District Council and the Regional Coun- we have them in the form of blocks and cil. What has been said here to some extent panchayats - should be linked to the con- ;s all right that certain powers that have been cept of providing homelands for ethnic mi- allocated to the District Councif should be norities. Where are we going? Whither are wholly exercisable by them without any let or we moving? hindarance unless of course they take a critical decision, in which case the matter PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): Don't can be reviewed at the Governor's level or at extend it to all minorities, tribal people. the State level. But, Sir, I fully endorse the view of Mr. Dinesh Goswami and Prof. Swell SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Exactly, that you are sowing here the seeds of an Sir, that is the plea that I am going to make. unnecessary conflict. Sir, we want District Therefore, I am suggesting that the Govern- and Regional Councils to function in har- ment should have applied its mind and the mony with the State Government. When we time has come to have agrand design forthe speak of autonomy for the district and more country in keeping with the roaring upsurge power for the blocks and more power for the for delegation and decentralisation, a con- panchayats or, in this instance forthe District cept to which the Prime Minister in his recent Councils and the Regional Councils, we do speeches has contI ibuted, no less than any not want to create a situation of permanent one else, any other votary of the idea of conflict. We do not wish the elected Legisla- decentralisation. Therefore, Sir, I suggest tors to be bypassed I we do not wish the that the Government should take us into District Councils or the Regional Council to confidence and should not merely tinker with be units outside the State structure. They are the problem. This is an occasion; let the in fact part and parcel of the State and Government come out and spell out its broad whatever power they have must be exer- concept, its comprehensive thinking, not cised in cooperation with and with the con- that we are asking you to place a Bill before sent of the State Governments. And there- us today, that will take time, but in order to fore, when I consider the role of the Gover- give an impetus of this demand for decen- nor in recant times, I am not very confident tralisation, tell us where and which way are about the manner in which the power that we going. In my view, we should be able to you are going to vest under this Bill are going evolve a national consumers - we are in to be exercised. Sir, the Sarkaria Commis- that position today - not only on this overall sion has warned us about this tendency on question of smaller States, but within the the part of the Governors to act as agents of States, about the degree of autonomy that the Central Government. Sir, this very think- must be available to and exercisable by the ing is a relic of the British times, of the district and within the district the degree of colonial times. that a minority ;s dependent autonomy that should be available to block upon the pleasure and support of the Gover- and exercisable at the block level by the nor. What you are doing here is really a flash people and finally, within the block, and back to the 1935 Act where the Governor rlggree and limits of autonomy and self- was vested with special powers in order to ... · ... ·\,.. .,..·· ..O"'Ol"'t 'h'1' shnuid hr.a·:lvailable to thQ nnA~(;t 'he :pecial interests of a speciaf 527 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 528 rShri S'yed Shahabuddin] . limit, shall have independent home-lands of group.Sir, the safety ana s~CUrtty o! a~y their own. I do not envisage that picture of group, howsoever small it might be, lies en India. I think, we have to envisage the situ- social harmony and Constitutional safe- ation in which sub-sub-tribes, sub-tribes guards. It does not lie in the protecting arms and tribes can live together in harmony of a super-State or a super-governor. That is within a larger unit called the State. Even the why, I plead with you that in the name of State is not big enough. In fact, if the Govern- decentraHsatlon. You should not try to create ment has to come forward with a national a permanent situation of conflict at the grass- comprehensive plan, then all these anoma- root level that a small group should look lies will disappear because in that case, at beyond the district, beyond their State to the the Panchayat level you will disappear at the power in Delhi for their protection and for Block level you will have powers, at the their sustenance. I think, Sir, that will not be district level you will have powers. All these in the spirit of the Constitution and that will different interests shall be very well taken perhaps entail if I may say so, dangerous care of. The unfortunate thing is that the and ominous possibilities. Therefore, I feel Government is always taking as hoc deci- that in clause 2088, which you propose to sion and tinkering with the problem. Why insert, you are really confusing two situ- dont' you think in National terms? Why don't ations. The Governor's powers are normally you provide a solution to the problem which exercisable on the advice of his Council of will apply equally throughout the length and Minister. Here, in this case you are diluting breadth of the country? This is the proposi- the authority of the Council of Ministers tion, I am making. Instead you are trying to which is accountable to the legislature and create a situation where small unit of popu- the people of that State as a whole, you are lation and small areas will look beyond the reducing its power and you are bringing it on boundaries of the State, to a benign father par with other bodies. You are starting here sitting in Delhi. Does that help the unity of that the Governor is supreme-he will con- India? Does that help the harmony of the sult the District Council; he will consult the State. No, Sir, it does not. Regional Council and he may also consult the Council of Ministers, and then come to Therefore, I plead with you that this his own decision. These are two different particular element in this Bill, particularly aspects altogether. I would suggest that clause 2088 is, in my view, a threat to the whatever be your objectives, consultation integrity of the country. Therefore, at least with the Council of Ministers must have a this part ot the Bill should be withdrawn. certain finality, if the State is to function as a viable Constitutional unit, if the State Gov- Shri Dinesh Goswami mentioned that ernment is to exercise Its mandate through- the State Governments have been con- out its territory. I am not suggesting, for a sulted and three of them had not agreed to moment, that the State shduld have over- the suggestion. I would suggest to the Cen- riding powers. District Councils shall have tral Government that the Central Govern- autonomy in their areas of operation. But if ment should try to take the State Govern- there is a conflict of interest, let the Governor ments along. This again is not in the national not be guided merely by the advice of the interest that you over-ride them and with the District Councilor the Regional Council. majority that you command in the House, you amend the Constitution in any manner PROF. N.G. RANGA: How could it be in you think fit. Is it right and proper? Is that the the tribal areas? You have number of tribes spirit of the Constitution of India? there, one against the other. Finally. I am rather surprised and I do SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Do you not mean it as an aspersion on anybody that presume that tribes, sub-tribes sub-sub- in 12A and 128 which are sought to be tribes, each one of them, to the micro micro inserted under Clause (3), emphasis is 529 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 530 placed on consumption of non-distilled alco- purpose, we shall never support such a holic liquor, as if that was a great right which situation in which you are going to make the is either being undermined or subverted or Governor all-powerful. That should not be taken away and, therefore, needed to be done. restored through the Constitutional amend- mentf That has been particularly mentioned. Of course, there are certain provisions. It came as a surprise to me. Actually, I agree on the question of royalties and funds. Therefore, I would suggest let us not take an ad hoc view of the provision. There I do not agree at all that the Governor are happy elements in this Bill which I would should be all-powerful and everybody shall like to go on record and support them. But be looking to the Governor only for justice. In the Bill as a whole is retrogressive piece of a majority ruled State, the minorities may be legislation and, therefore I stand to oppose it. looked down upon. Such things happen. We cannot even say that one single Governor SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY (Midna- shall be doing justice. We cannot accept it pore): Sir, as Shri Dinesh Goswami funda- and for that purpose mainly, I say. you bring mentally opposed the Bill, though I am not a out a comprehensive Bill or blueprint. I know fundamentalist! I am a little bit more appre- it is difficult for you. You have nothing as hensive than the other friends because I such. You are depending on ad hocism and know all the previous activities of the Gov- you will continue to depend on ad hocism. ernment were very much against the interests of the people. These things are being I am apprehensive that you have got done through the Governors. Prof. G.G. certain bad designs. You can do away with Swell spoke of Andhra Governor and we my apprehensions by announcing that you know of the Governor of Nagaland and the have no such design as to control the district same of the Governor for Tripura. We know councils through the office of the Governor. how the Congress party came to power in Tripura recently through the agency of the Since the District Councils today as Governor himself and how friendship was they are existing in Tripura are mainly con- made with the TNV and how gradually they trolled by the Left Front whom you don't like, came to power through elections. Now, perhaps for that purpose you are bringing in everybody knows what is happening in this Office of the Governor to see that direct Tripura. It is being published in the press intervention is made in the area of those almost every day. To suggest that Gover- District Councils. If that is not true, I am very nors are to be given more powers, and they happy. If it is not a fact, then I will be very can do whatever they like and they need not happy. Let the Minister kindly say that it is not even submit to State Legislatures, is a fan- true and they will not do it. Sir, there is a tastic proposition which no democrat includ- proverb in Bengali: "SAPER Hanchi 0 ing the Minister who is now piloting this Bill HayenarHansi" which means the laugh of a would accept. If that be so, then the Presi- Hyena and sneezing of a snake are very dent should be allowed to pass whatever he dangerous. When you bring something even likes and his orders and laws should not good, we do suspect. But it should not be like even come to Parliament! That should only the laugh of a Heyna and the sneezing of a be discussed in the Council of Ministers and snake. As I mentioned earlier, the purpose this Parliament can be bypassed easily! for which you are bringing in this amendment is that you don't like the Left Front Govt. Therefore, I oppose this amendment. I hope You do not like it because the President that you will bring a comprehensive Bill. may use his offices to do something which Whatever good is there, it should be pre- you do not like. Such things arose. Only a served and whatever bad is there, that few months back, such things arose. Forthat should be removed. 531 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Sconstitution (amdt.) bill 532

SHAf E. AYYAPU REDDY (Kurnool): Amendment. In my own humble opinion this Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am in full agreement with amendment is gong to introduce. in a small the principles just now enunciated by my State like Mizoram and in the State of friend Shri Shahabuddin and also by Shri Tripura, three constitutional Heads-one is Narayan Choubey. As a Constitutional the Governor. the other is the District Council measure, I am not able to understand the and the third is the State Government. What rationale behind this Amendment. Amend- are your reasons for the disbelief or for ment to the Constitution must be undertaken distrusting that the State Governments will in exceptional circumstances where it is to- not be in a position to look after the welfare tally and absolutely compulsory to a amend of the minorities? What is the principle? Are the Constitution. We have been a amending you gOhi_! to accept sub-nationality and sub- the Constitution too often. A number of tribol PI inc:ples? That is a most dangerous

amendments have not served any purpose. pnncip'( > Administrative failures are sought to be explained by Constitutional amendments. ~n f: "3ry district. there may be large Whenever there is a failure on our part to ce' 'q'~m 'I and a smaller community. The achieve the object beating is being taken by smalh-Jr ( ommunity may say we are being the Constitution and amending the domllln1€1'd. Therefore, we must be given a Constitution has been the easy slogan which I nrp::s 'ntation. Our special interest must be has been adopted. What is the rationale protected." Are you going to accept that behind coming forward with this Amend- principle and extend it throughout India? It ment? What are the problems? What was will lead to very many problems. It is going to the acute problem in Tripura or Mizoram lead to disintegration. Regarding the ration- which compelled the Central Government to ale behind creating and investing the consti- undertake this Constitutional Amendment? tutional powers in the Governor, the district In the Statement of Objects and Reasons, council and the State Government, there are we do not find any details or any data which totally no justifiable reasons as to why an justifies them to come forward with this elected State Government and a Chief Min- amendment. It is for the purpose of protec- ister who wants to enjoy the confidence of all tion of whom? So far as the object is con- the people, should be distrusted and why a cerned, it is stated: nominated Governor should be trusted so as to ensure that there is equal treatment to "Over a period of time. the minority every sub-tribe or minority tribe. Therefore, tribals of Mizoram covered under the this amendment, as I stated earlier. is unfor- Sixth Schedule have come to feel that tunate and uncalled for. their autonomy under the Sixth Sched- ule will be more meaningful and they So far as the State of Tripura is con- can achieve speedier progress if there cerned, practically there have been no is less overall control of the State cases where any complaints has been made Government over them ...... " Please where some minor tribes have been sup- pressed. Please not the words mentioned above. H6w vague it is. How difficult it is to under- ( Interruptions) stand any specific scheme behind it. There is no specific problem so far either in -Tripura or PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): It was Mizoram. If they give out any specific in- the tribal revolt which was responsible. stance where they found it difficult to protect a particular minority tribal community, the SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Such things House can understand. But the phrases that will always appear and occur. In every

have been used are 'more mea"ingful, I Iless community 1 caste fights are there. There- harmful'. They have used these words to fore, that is not the reason. This will not give justify their bringing out this Constitution any additional protection. On the other hand, 533 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA)constitution(amcit.)bill 534 it is going to encourage. in the name of ties and tribals and more and more auton- integration and instead of bringing all the omy and more respectability must be given people into the mainstream, instead of to them so that they feel equal to other making them fael that they are one nation people of the country. and one community and having one Indian Citizenship, fissiparous tendencies and sub- I would say that it is the flexibility of the caste loyalties. This should not have taken Constitution, that it has given Article 370 to place. Some more time should have been the J&K people. Under Article 370 the aspi- taken. Economic disparities can be removed rations of the people of Jammu and Kashmir by other methods and should bG removed by are met and protected. At the same time, other methods. The Central Government their fears, their expectations and their aspi- has got enormous funds especially for the rations are met by the provision. Such con- Scheduled Tribes and they can find that cessions and provisions in the Constitution whenever a sub-tribe is complaining that it are necessary because otherwise it will has not received its just treatment, it is al- become a rigid Constitution and it will give ways open to the President of India and the problems. It is because of the flexibility of the Governor to look to their economic develop- Constitution that India as country has sur- ment and fight them. What is essentially an vived while our neighbouring countries are economic problem is sought to be converted tattering and are falling. It is always the into a constitutional problem. Therefore, in consensus that makes the country strong. my humble opinion, this Bill runs contrary to the spirit of the Constitution as enshrined in There have been some dissent in this the Preamble to the Constitution. country. Some people are raising a hue and cry that Kashmir should be deprived of Ar- With these words, I oppose this Bill. ticle 370. In this respect, I would say that when we are determined to protect the SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI tribals, when we think about cultural identi- (Srinagar): Han. Chairman, Sir, I support the ties of small minorities in Tripura and Bill. But I have some reservations. As far as Mizoram, why different outlook with respect the Bill is concerned, it is not a new Bill. It is to Kashmir? Why Kashmir should also not actually the amendment of the Sixth Sched- enjoy the same provisions under the ule. And personally, I feel that as far as constitution? North-Eastern States-Assam, Meghalaya, Mizoram and Tripura are concerned-this Article 370 has been a result of the has been their inherent problem that the unique struggle of the people of Jammu and tribals especially the minority tribes are feel- Kashmir along with the national freedom ing not secure. Therefore, they wanted to movement, they have become correlated have more rights. And the Sixth Schedule with this cou:1try because of the Article 370. has given them such authority, an institution Weakening that relationship means weak- of district and regional councils. ening of the link, the bridge itself which connects Kashmir with the rest of the coun- As far as aspirations of these regional try. and district level tribals are concerned, I think, Government has, in right earnest, Therefore, I strongly support these brought the Bill and this is a realistic ap- provisions in the bill and I feel that more and proach to the problem and we should not get more autonomy needs to be given. We must annoyed by this measure, of this amend- visualise for our future that if there is any ment to the Constitution. minority or a section or any backward community which has been deprived of its I feel that we must appreciate the fact rights-social, economic, political or educa- that India is a total sum of ciJ.fferent cultural tional-we must provide provisions in the units. At national level we ha~ some minori- Constitution to that effect. The Constitution 535 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 536 rShri Abdul Rashid K~buli1 , given to the Governor but to the Constitution must be flexible as It IS toCiay and It st auld and for that purpose experts of the continue to be flexible. Constitution have to sit and decide as to how to do it. Excepting this aspect as far as the I have a submission to make as far as Bill and the spirit of the Bill is concerned I the Governor's powers are concerned. You support this and, I think, this is a proper have mentioned in Clause 2(4), in Para- measure. graph 15, in sub-paragraph (2): SHRI BALWANT SINGH RAMOQW- "(a) in the opening paragraph, for the ALIA (Sangrur): Sir, regarding the spirit of words 'by the Legislature of the State', the amendment, that is, to protect the inter- the words 'by him' shall be substituted; ests of the minorities, weaker sections and those tribes who are unable to have their due Again in Clause 2(5), in Paragraph 16 rights, I support the spirit and the basic you have mentioned that: principle before the country which is unity in diversity and the responsibility, of the State "(a) in sub-paragraph (1), the words, to protect the rights and the interests of the 'subject to the previous approval of the people. The particular mention to 'minority Legislature of the State' occurring in section' ;s welcome one but as many hone clause (b) and the second proviso Members have expressed their apprehen- shall be omitted; sion regarding the powers being given to the post of the Governor I cannot agree with the (b) for sub-paragraph (3), the follow- proposal which comes through this amending sub-paragraph shall be substi- ment. Already there is a strong voice coming tuted, namely:- up throughout the country that the post of the Governor should be abolished. Some (3) Every order made under sub-para- people are of the opinion that there is misuse graph (1) or sub-paragraph (2) of this of powers already given to the Governors. paragraph, along with the reasons Governors have created almost a chaos. In therefore shall be laid before the Leg- some areas Governors have created a di- islature of the State." archical situation so far as administration is concerned. We have the bitter experience of As far as laying down the decisions of the actions of the Governor of Nagaland and the regional orthe district councils before the the actions of the Governor of Andhra Legislature is concerned, it is a must. Be- Pradesh and Punjab. The Governor of cause, after all, the region or the district Punjab became instrument to get the forms a part of the State. elected Government of Akali Dal dismissed and thus misguided the House. It was the Governor of Punjab who misguided this As far as the Governor's name is con- House. During Barnala Government 79 cerned, it has been mentioned as 'he', Wall, people were killed in one month whereas ow there is a conflict between the Chief Minister 480 people are being killed every month in and the Governor. This conflict should not be Punjab. there. For this I suggest that we should find some way out. For this we can amend the Constitution in order to give enough powers So, Sir, I oppose more powers being to these regional and district level units. This given to the Governor. We are the represen- should be visualised by the hone House how tatives of crores and crores of Indian people. this can be don~. We can provide certain We should keep up the great tradition and in powers to them but as far as Governors' no way I myself and my party would agree to involvement is concerned it is not appropri- more powers being given to the Governors. ate. Some compromising formula should be 537 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA)constitution(amdt.)bill 538

[ Translation] gory. In fact those people who become old and get defeated in the elections. are ap.. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Han- pointed as Governors for their rehabilitation amkonda): Mr. Chairman, Sir, we are dis- and in order to re-appoint them. It is how the cussing here the institutions like Regional Government is functioning. Today the way. Council and the District Council meant for the Governor of Andhra Pradesh is function.. the administration of the North Eastern ing has become a matter of public discussion States, of Mizoram and Tripura. We are in the public places. Today the leaders of the considering a point that the Governor is Congress go to Raj Shavan to make a state- being given the right to implement the pro- ment which becomes a point of public disposal which ;s passed by the council despite cussion in the markets and it is highlightad in the presen~e of the Chief Minister there. the press. Thus the respect. the dignity and Today the subject, office of the Governor the prestige of the office of Governor it used and Governors rights' is being debated in the to command is now vanishing. Hence your entire country. You know that the Governor proposition for the regional or district coun- of Andhra Pradesh is in the news, almost cils and the implementation of their deci- daily. Since last 10 to 15 days, we have been sions without seeking the advice of the Chief concentrating our discussions on the Gover- Minister, would not be conductive to the unity nor of Andhra Pradesh. The Governor was of the country. Therefore. this Bill should be hesitating to implement the decision on the withdrawn. I fully oppose this Bill. Moreover, cabinet as per the provisions of the I urge upon the Central Government to de- constitution and it is very harmful for the lete Article 370 of the Constitution which has country that they propose to implement the been provided there for J&K. and special resolutions adopted by the regional commit- powers being given to Mizoram should also tees and district cells with the authority of the be withdrawn. There should be one Governor alone without taking the advice of Constitution and one law for each and avery the Chief Minister and thus ignoring the citizen of the country. elected bodies and the Chief Minister. Just now Shri Ramoowaliaji was telling about the SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI: The disadvantages of delegation of more powers people like you will divide the country. to the Governors. On one hand, they are thinking to do away with the office of Gover- SHRI C. JANGA REDOI: In fact, earlier nor because now he is no more an agent of you went aftef Shri N. T. Ramarao and now the Central Government, but has been re- you have chosen Rajiv Gandhi. Earlier the duced to a political agent. In fact, the dear Chief Minister had arrived and first of all he ones of the ruling party, who get defeated in himself had opposed Shri Rajiv Gandhi but the elections, are appointed as Governors. now he is supporting him .... (lnterruptions) ...

[English) Therefore, I urge upon the Government to withdraw this Bill and to do away with the For example, Shri Brahmanand Reddy system of Governors because such provi- was a Chief Minister. He was a Member of sions are not in the country's interest and Parliament. He was a Cabinet Minister. Now there should be one constitution for every he is Governor of Maharashtra. He will act citizen of the country. according to the dictates of the Central Government. [English]

[ Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHAt All these Governors act according to the SONTOSH MOHAN OeV): Mr. Chairman, dictates of the Central Government. Almost Sir, at the very outset, I convey my thanks to every Governor belongs to the s'ame cate- all the Members who have participated in 539 Sixth Schedukl to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bIll 540

[Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev] Government; we have inserted many of the this debate. By and large, everybody has views here with their consent, but there are supported. certain views of the State which we could not honour. We agree, but at the same time, it SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: No, no. Not will be wrong to say that the Government is all. trying to do something at their behest without consulting the various representative bodies SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: There of the Autonomous Distrid Council. I would were some reservations from certain Oppo- specially like to tell Mr Riyan. He also men- sition Members regarding the discretionary tioned that the idea of this Bill is to take a step powers of the Governor. against the Autonomous District Councils of Tripura. This is not the idea of the Bill. I think, the first speaker who spoke, Mr. Rather. I think, your Autonomous District Riyan from Tripura, is confused about the Councils should be happy. Now, the State whole thing. If I have understood him rightly, Assembly or even the Chief Minister cannot he said that we were taking away the powers start an enquiry against them without the of the Governor and giving the'm to the consent of the Governor. Governor's con- Legislature. I may be wrong in my under- sent is mandatory. standing. (Interruptions) . If I know a little bit of Bengali. that was the thrust of his speech. You have said in your speech that the When Shri Goswami spoke. he also com- Government's intention is to supersede mented on the same. I think, there is some Tripura ADC. That is not the intention of the confusion and I would clarify that. Central Government. I cannot vouch for the The thrust of the Bill is to give more State Government what-I cannot say their powers to the Autonomous District Councils. motive is-but our idea is to give more It is very sad that most of the Members said powers. that the Government was trying to do something at their behest and there is no demand As I said, the main objections have and such from anybody. In 1981, there was come from the hone Members regarding the a memorandum from all the District Councils discretionary power of the Governor. I would of North-Eastern States. Not only that, they like to put on record the Government views came and meet the Prime Minister and and what the Constitution says. The provi- submitted a m&morandum, Subsequently, sions in the Sixth Schedule relate to admini- the Government of India signed an accord stration of tribal areas in the States of As- with MNF. In the Acord also, originally Lald- sam, Meghalaya, Tripura and Mizoram. enga wanted that the protection of the mi- Under the Government of India Act, 1935, norities should be deleted. The Government the discretionary powers were given to the of India did not agree. They insisted that the Governor in respect of excluded areas con- protection of the minOrities must be there, sisting of certain backward tribals regions. Not only that, it should be strengthened also. Subsequently, when the matter was dis- When an agreement was reached with TNB, cussed in the Constituent Assembly, while the same thing was reiterated that we would finalising the provisions of the Constitution of strengthen the autonomous District Coun- India, it was felt that the executive authority cils to give more thrust to the district auton- of the Government should extend not merely omy. The Chief Minister of Tripura was an to non-scheduled areas, but also to the tribal elected. Chief Minister of the people and he areas covered by the autonomous districts, is a signatory to the Mizoram Accord. The so that the tribal areas are bound to come in MNF and Laldenga are Signatories. Those the life of the province and in the life of the who have criticised that we a"e trying to do country as a whole. This was to unite all tribal something without taking into confidence the population with rest of the province and the Stat. Government are wrong. We have country. Barring such functions as law taken into account the views of the State making in specific fields. barring certain 541 Sixth Schfldule to AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA)constitution(amdt.)biH 542 judicial functions, the authority of the Parlia- have tried my level best and in future we shall ment as well as authority of the Legislature of jointly try to achieve it fully. But at this stage, the State has bean extended under the 6th we are not able to give this power fully. Schedule over the district and regional Councils. Over a period of time, the minority [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in th9 Chaiij tribals of Mizoram covered under the Sixth Schedule have come to feel that they can 16.53 hrs. enjoy neither meaningful autonomy nor achieve necessary progress if there is over- I may also add that in the above context all oontrol of a State Government above it may be noted that tha Govarnor has bean them. Therefore, they demanded that the given discretionary power under para 9(2) of Governor should exercise the power in his the Sixth Schedule and Article 239(2) of the discretion and not with the aid and advice of Constitution retating to the administration of the Council' of Ministers. So, this is the union territories and special responsibilities demand from the District Autonomous under Article 371 (2) 371 A, 371 C, 371 F(g) Councils. Shri Riyan was asking why we and 371 (H). As such, according to para- have done it. This was the memorandum graph 21, of the Sixth Schedule, Parliament given to the Prime Minister. Every amend- is empowered to amend the Sixth Schedule. ment to the Constitution is brought as perthe Subpara also provides that no such amend- demands of the Autonomous District Coun- ment shall be deemed to be an'amendment cils. of the Constitution for the purposes of Article 368. Mr. Swell is very much right. Their demand was that finances be given directly Therefore, his criticism is not correct. to the autonomous district councils. We One of the criticisms that has been levelled could not fully concede that demand though is that we are trying to give powers to the we did try. We had a dialogue with the Governor in order to dilute the power of the Planning Commission and the Finance State Assembly. Our experience in some Ministry. They have assured us that it has States is rather unfortunate. A body which been laid down that when a particular fund is has baen elected by the people is super- given for a particular purpose, unless the ceded within six months on some pretext or State Government gets a utilisation certifi- the other. Only this morning, I happened to cate from the respective District Council, see a news item that in Assam, Karbi An- further funds allocate for the District Council glong District Council formed about seven would not be given to the State Government. months ago was being superceded by the So, partially we have been able to protect it. Government of Assam on some ground or But I do agree that we have not been able to the other. I read a news item that the Govern- give that power to be District Councils fully. ment of Assam is trying to supercede it. In So, one of their demands was that the fi- such cases we have not taken powers into nances should be given directly to the Dis- ourhands. We have only saidthat acommis- trict Council. sion of inquiry has to be set up at the discre- t;on of the Governor and the Governor can In the present amendment, we have supercide itorgive it an administrator. Unfor- added one clause that when the District tunately, in the North Eastern States, the Councils raise' funds through their different State Governments, irrespective of the fact sources, they will specify for what purpose whether they belong 10 Congress Party, these funds should be spend and it is not the non-congress party or a regional party, have Assembly which has to give its consent, but a tendency not to share power with the the Governor in his discretion should give autonomous district councils. The idea of the consent. Therefore, the problem men- this Bill is to give more powers to the autono- tioned by the hon. member win be solved to mous district councils in order to make them some extent. I personalfy worked for it and I more meaningful and more effective in the 543 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 544

[Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev] and the District Councils barring the Shillong discharge of their duties. Cantonment and part of the Municipality covers the whole state. Meghalaya feels that We have every reason to believe that if these powers are given to the District this particular Bill will usher in a new era for Councils, their functions will be further re- the tribals in the North Eastern Region. The duced and they have objected to that. We fear expressed by Shri Riyan is in regard to are still negotiating with Meghalaya Govern- a particular region. I appreciate his fears. But ment. We shall try to find out a via-media. what he has said is not correct and also what Assam Government have also objected and Shri Goswami has said is also not correct. A they have said that they don't agree with it. responsible Government must behave in a They have given certain suggestions. We responsible fashion. I must appreciate the are in dialogue with the Assam Government. Chief Minister of West Bengal. He has Some Members have demanded that it shared many functions of the State Govern- should be given to Assam and Meghalaya. ment. By introducing a Bill in the State As- We shall certainly consider at an appropriate sembly he does not want to go again to the time. We have started our negotiation. We Sixth Schedule. He had himself said that are continuing it. We shall see to it how best whatever has been given in the Sixth Sched- it can be done. ule, I had given more than that. He had given it. He had passed it. We had given our Sir, no one has any valid point regarding consent. this particular Amendment. Their main grouse ;s whether the Governor should be SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: Your given the discretionary power. I have said, consent was not necessary. why Governor has been given the discretionary power I am happy that many Mem- SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: The bers have agreed that the money lending State Government, in the past, was not will- business should be in such a manner that it ing to give this power. So, the Government keeps a control not only on the non-tribal had to intervene. In the Accords which we people but also on the tribal people. It is have signed with Mizoram and Tripu ra, we because they sometime try to exploit the have agreed. Now do not want to go into I down-trodden or the poor people. I hope that criticisms which were made by some hone the House will support it. Mr. Swell has said Members as we have given discretionary that the Prime Minister had given an assur- power to the Governor. ance during the last visit to Mizoram and we are fulfilling that commitment of the Prime Many people have said many things Minister. We shall see that this Bill is passed about a particular Governor. Whenever a in the Rajya Sabha as well as here. The Bill Governor acts on this discretionary power, should come into existence with this Amend- he is subject to criticism. It ;s unfortunate for ment so that the commitment which has him. But the founding fathers of the been given by the Prime Minister is kept. We Constitution have felt it necessary because the Congress Party are committed to protect they have foreseen that such situation might the heritage, culture and the religion of the come. I would like to answer one particular tribal people. We never tried to interfere. We point which was raised by Shri Swell and, believe that the tribal people should survive that is, why it has not been introduced in in our country and at the same time, their Assam and Meghalaya. We have given the religion, their heritage and other things memorandum which we received from dif- should be protected. This is the thrust of the ferent District Councils to the Meghalaya Bill. Government also.

As you know Meghalaya coRsisted of With these words, I would commend three tribes-Khasi, Jaintia and the Garo this Bill to be passed. I 545 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANAI 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 546

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The ques- person resident out- tion is: side the district shall carry on any trade '7hatthe Bill furtherto amend the Sixth whether wholesale Schedule to the Constitution of India in or retail except the its application to the States of Tripura Scheduled Tribes", and Mizoram be taken into considera- (3) tion." Page 3,- The motion was adopted. omit lines 32 to 35. (4) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House will now take up Clause by Clause consid- Page 3.- eration of the Bill. omit lines 36 to 44. (5) Clause 2 -(Application of Sixth schedule to the states of Tripura and Mizoram) Page 4, lines 16 and 17,-

SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: I beg omit "the Council of Ministers, to move: and if he thinks it necessary," (6)

Page 4,- SHRI AJOY BISWAS' It has been mentioned here like this: (i) line 11,- "a period of one year from the date of after "paragraph 2," insert- any agreement" sub-paragraph (3) of paragraph 3," My amendment is like this:

(ii) lines 12 and 15,- lithe financial year of the date of the after "Paragraph 6," insert- agreement" "sub-paragraph (2) of paragraph 7," (1) We have heard what Mr. Swell has said that the Autonomous District councils are SHRI AJOY BISWAS: I beg to move: not getting their share for years together. If your amendment is valid, inspite of that, if the Page 1, line 12 and 13,- agreement is within the financial year, then the Autonomous District Council will not get for "a period of one year from their share within the financial year; they will the date of any agreement" get their share in the next financial year. So, you know that in the Autonomous District substitute "the financial year Councils they are not able to discharge their of the date of the agreement" (2) functions properly due to paucity of fund. So, my amendment is clear that what agreement Page 2, line 11,- will be there between the Autonomous Dis- trict Councils and the State Government, the add at the end- amount should be given within the financial year. 'and after clause (d). the following clause shall be inserted, namely:- SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: The idea of the han. member is good, but the "(C) prescribe that no practical difficulty is there. Supposing a 547 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 548

[Shri Sontosh Mohan Of:}J] Anjiah, Shri T. decision is given in the month of January or February, it will be difficult for the State Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Government to comply with it within the financial year. That is why we have kept it Antony, Shri P.A. one year from the date of agreement. So. I would request the han. member to kindly withdraw his amendment. His idea is good Awasthi, Shri Jagrlj~h and I accept it, but, unfortunately, we have to consider the financial position of the State Baghel, Shri Pratap~inh GavE'! nrnent also. Bairagi, Shri Balkavi MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I shall now put Amendment No.1 to Clause 2, moved by Bairwa, Shri Banwari Lal Shri Sontosh Mohan Dev to the vote of the House. Baitha, Shri D.L.

The question is: Sajpai, Dr. Rajendra Kumari Page 4.- Balaraman, Shri L. (i) line 11.- after "paragraph 2," in- Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimala sert- sub-paragraph (3) of par a- Banerjee. Kumari Mamata graph 3,'" Basavarajeswari, Shrimati (ii) lines 12 and 13,- Basavaraju, Shri G.S. after "paragraph 6," insert- "sub-paragraph (2) of Basheer, Shri T. paragraph 7," (1 ) Bhagat, Shri B. R. The Lok Sabha divided Bhagat, Shri H.K.L. 17.11 hrs. Bharat Singh, Shri [Division No.3) Bhatia. Shri R.L. AYES Bhoi, 01. Krupasindhu Abbasi, Shri K.J. Bhosale, Shri Prataprao B. Abdul Ghafoor, Shri Bhoys. Shri R.M. Ahmed, Shrimati Abida

Akhtar Hasan, Shri Bhumij, Shri Haren

Anand Singh, Shri Shuria. Shri Dileep Singh 549 Sixth Schedule to AGAAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 550

Sirba', Shli Devi, Prof. Chandra Bhanu

Sirendra Singh, Rao Dhariwal, Shri Shant;

Birindsr Singh, Shri Dhillon, Dr. G.S.

Buta Singh.S. Digal. Shri Radhakanta

Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal Dighe, Shri Sharad

Chandrashekharappa, Shri T. V. Digvijay Sinh, Shri

Chandresh Kumar;, Shrimati Dikshit, Shrimati Sheila

Charles, Shri A Oinesh Singh, Shri

Chaturvedi, Shrimati Vidyavati Dube. Shri Bhishma Deo

Chaudhry, Shri Kamal Engti, Shri Biren Singh

Charan, Shri Ashok Shankarrao Gadgil, Shri V.N.

Chidambaram, Shri P. Gadhvi, Shri B. K.

Choudhary, Shri Jagannath Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singh

Chaudhary. Shri Nandlal Gamit, Shri C.O.

Dabhi. Shri Ajitsinh Gholap, Shri S.G.

Dalbir Singh, Shri Ghosal, Shri Debi

Dalwai. Shri Hussian Ghosh, Shri Bimal Kanti

Damor. Shri Somjibhai Gounder, Shri A.S.

Oas, Shri Anadi Charan Guha, Dr. Phulrenu

Das, Shri Sudarsan Gupta, Shri Janak Raj

Das Muns;. Shri Priya Ranjan Gupta, Shrimati Prabhawati

Dennis. Shri. N. Halder, Prof. M.R.

Deora, Shri Murti Harpal Singh. Shri

Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Jadeja, Shri D.P. 551 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 552

Jaffar Sharief, Shri C.K. Kurien, Prof.P.J.

Jain, Shri Oal Chandar Lachchhi Ram, Shri

Jain, Shri Nihal Singh Law, Shri Asutosh

Jain, Shri Virdhi Chandar Lowang, Shri Wangpha

Jatav, Shri Kammodilal Madhuree Singh, Shrimati

Jana, Shri Chintamani Mahabir Prasad, Shri

Jitendra Prasada, Shri Mahanjan, Shri Y.S.

Jitendra Singh, Shri Mahendra Singh, Shri

Jujhar Singh, Shri Makwana. Shri Narsinh

Kamla Kumari. KIJmari Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh

Kamson, Prof. Meijinlung Mallick. Shri Lakshman

Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath Malviya, Shri 8apulal

'{en, Shri Lala Ram Mane, Shri R.S

Khan, Shri Aslam Sher Manvendra Singh, Shri

Khan, Shri Khurshid Alam Meira Kumar, Shrimati

Khan, snri Mond. Ayub Mishra, Shri G.S.

Kinder LaJ. Shri Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar

Krishna Kumar, Shri S. Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina

Krishna Singh Shri Mishra, Shri Umakant

Kuchan, Shr. Gangadhar S. Misra, Shri Nityananda

Kujur, Shri Maurice Modi, Shri Vishnu

Kumaramangalam, Shri P.R. Mohanty, Shri Brajamohan

Kunjambu Shri Motilal Singh, Shri

Kuppuswamy, Shri C. K. Mundackal, Shri George Joseph 553 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 {SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 554

Murmu, Shri Sidha Lal Patel, Shri Ram Pujan

Mushran, Shri Ajay Patel, Shri U.H.

Naik, Shri G.Devaraya Pathak, Shri Chandra Kishore

Naik, Shri Shantaram Patit, Shri Balasaheb Vikhe

Narayanan, Shri K.R. Patil, Shri Prakash V.

Negi, Shri Chadra Mohan Singh Patil, Shri Veerendra

Netam, Shri Arvind Patel, Shr; Vijay N.

Odedra, Shr; Bharat Kumar Patnaik, Shrimati Jayant;

Odeyar, Shri' Channaiah Pattnaik, Shri Jagannath

Oraon, Shrimati Sumati Peru man, Dr. P. Vallal

Pande, Shri Raj Mangal Pilot, Shri Rajesh

Pandey, Shri Damodar Poojary, Shri Janardhal

Pandey, Shri Madan Pradhan, Shri K.N.

Pandey, Shri Manoj Pradhani, Shri K.

Panigrahi, Shri Chintamani Puran Chandra, Shri

Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Purohit, Shri Banwari Lal

Panika, Shri Ram Pyare Pushpa Devi, Kumari

Panja, Shri A.K. Qureshi, Shri Aziz

Pant, Shri K.C. Rai, Shri Raj Kumar

Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan Raj Karan Singh, Shri

Parashar, Prof. Narain Chand Rajeshwaran, Dr.V.

Pardhi, Shri Keshaorao Rajhans, Dr. G.S.

Patel, Shri Ahmed M. Ram, Shri Ramswaroop

Patel, Shri Mohanbhai Ram Awadh Prasad, Shrl 555 Sixth Schsdu/9 to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bII SS8

Ram Ohan, Shri Santosh Kumar Singh. Shri

Ram Pradash, Ch. Satyendra Chandra, Shri

Ram Samujhawan, Shri Sayeed Shri P.M.

Ram Singh, Shri Sen, Shn Bholanath

Ramachandran, Shri Mullappally Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad

Rana Vir Singh, Shri Shah, Shri Anopchand

Ranga, Prof. N.G. Shahi, Shri Laliteshwar

Ranganath, Shri K.H. Shailesh, Dr. B.L.

Rao, Shri J. Chokka Shankaranand, Shri B~

Rao, Shri J. Vengala Shankarlal. Shri

Rao, Shri P.V. Narashimha Sharma, Shri Nand Kishore

Rathawa, Shri Amarsinh Sharma, Shn Nawal Kishore

Rathod, Shri Uttam Sharma, Shri Pratap Bhanu

Raut. Shri Shola Shastri. Shri Han Krishna

Ravani, Shri Navin Shervani, Shri Saleem I.

Rawat, Shri Harish Shmgda, Shri D.B.

Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad Shivendra Bahandur Singh, Shri

Sahu, Shri Shiv Prasad Siddlq, Shn Hafiz Mohd.

Sait, Shri Azeez Singh, Shrj Bhanu Pratap

Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Singh. Shri D.G.

Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan Smgh, Shri K.N.

Salahuddin, Shri Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad

Sang;na. Shri Williamson Singh, Shri Krishna Pratap

Sankata, Prasad, Dr. Singh, Shri Lal Vijay Pratap 557 Sixth Schedule to AGAAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA)conslitution(amdt.)bI11 558

Shing, Shri N. Tombi Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Singh

Singh, Shri S.D. Tytler , Shri Jagdish

Singh Dec Shri K.P. Vanakar, Shri Punam Chand Mithabhai

Sodi. Shri Mankuram Vijayaraghavan, Shn V.S.

Solanki, Shri Kalyan Singh Vir Sen, Shri

Sparrow. Shri R.S. Vyas, Shri Girdhari Lal

Sukhadia, Shrimati Indubala Wadiyar, Shri Srikanta Datta

Sukhbuns Kaur. Shrimati Wasryik. Shri Mukul

Sultanpuri, Shri K.D. Yadav, Shri Kaitash

Suman, Shri R.P. Yadav, Shri R.N.

Sundararaj, Shri N. Vadav, Shri Ram Singh

Sunder Singh. Ch. Yadav. Shri Shyam Lal

Sunil Dutt, Shrj Yadav, Shri Subhash

Surendra Pal Singh, Shri Yadava, Shri Bal Ram Singh

Swami Prasad Singh. Shri Yadava. Shri D.P.

Swell, Shri G.G. Yashpal, Singh, Shri

Thakkar, Shrimati Usha Yogesh. Shri Yogeshwar Prasad

Thara Devi, Kumari O.K. Zainul Basher, Shri

Thomas, Prof. K. V. NOES

Thorat, Shri Bhausaheb Acharia, Shri 8asudeb

Thungon, Shri P.K. Appalanarasimham, Shri P.

Tigga, Shri Simon Bhoopathy, Shri G.

Tilakdhari Singh, Shri Biswas, Shri Ajoy

Tomar, Shrimati Usha Rani Chatterjee, Shr; Somnath 559 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 560

Choubey, Shri Narayan Reddy, Shri C. Janga

Chowdhary, Shri Saifuddin Reddy, Shri E. Ayyapu

Dandavate, Prof., Madhu Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma

Datta,Shri AmaJ Riyan, Shr; Baju Ban

Deo,Shr; V.Kishore Chandra S. Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar

Dcra, Shri H.A. Saha, Shri Gadadhar

Hannan Mollah, Shri Samant, Dr. Datta

Iyer, Shri V.S. Krishan Shahabuddin, Shri Syed

Jhansi Lakshmi, Shrimati N.P. Tulsiram, Shri V.

Kalpana Devi, Dr. T Zainal Abedin, Shri

Malik, Shri Purna Chandra MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Subject to correction, the result· of the division is: Ayes- Masudal Hossain, Shri Syed 262, Noes -37

Misra, Shri Satyagopal The motion was adopted Mukherjee, Shrimati Gaeta MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: I am putting Patel, Dr. A.K. amendments Nos.2,3,4,5, and 6 to Clause 2 moved by Shri Ajoy Biswas to the vote of the Aaju, Shri Vijaya Kumar House.

Ramashray Prasad Singh, Shri Amendments Nos 2 to 6 were put and negatived Rao Dr. G. Vijaya Rama MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- Rao, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara tion is:

Ratnam, Shri N. Venkata "That Clause 2, as amended, stand part Reddi, Shri C. Madhav of the Bill"

Reddy, Shri Bezawada Papi The motion was adopted. *Tha following Members also recorded their votes:* AYES: Shri I. Rama Rai, Shri R.S. Khirhar, Shri Manphool Singh Chaudhary, Shri Prabhu Ll Rawat, Prof. Nirmala Kumar; Shaktawat, Dr. c.s. verma, Shri Mohd. Ayub Khan, Shri Nares Chandra Chaturvedi. NOES: Shri N.V.N. Somu, Shri B.B. Ramaiah, Dr. Sudhir Roy, Shri S.M. Guraddi, Shri C Samu and Shri Samar Brahma Choudhary. 561 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 562

Clause 2, as amended, was added to As per the present Bill, the report or the the Bill decisions of the Governor is to be placed in the Assembly. Now, as perthis amendment, MR . DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Ques.. the Governor is not bound to place the report tion is: or the decision on the floor of the Assembly. He will discuss with the Council of Ministers. IIThat Clause 1. the Enacting Formula Then. what will happen? After passing this and the long Title stand part of the Bill. Bill, the Governor will discuss with the Coun- cil of Ministers. After discussing, he will The Motion was adopted decide to dissolve the present Autonomous District Council. which is controlled by the Clause 1, the Enacting Forumula and left Front Government. This is the main the Long Title were added to the Bill. motive of the Government and the decision will not be placed on the floor of the Assem- SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: Sir, I bly. So, this amendment is politically moti- beg to move: vated and this amendment is clearly directed to dissolve the Autonomous District Coun- "That the Bill, as amended, be cil.' passed." I oppose this amendment. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Motion moved: SHRI SONTOSH MOHAN DEV: After "'That the Bill, as amended. be the defeat of the Marxist Government in passed." Tripura. they are always in the phobia of saying that the Government of India and the Shri Ajoy Biswas. Tripura Government are trying to do something against the autonomous district coun .. SHRI AJOY BISWAS (Tripura West): cils. We are not the Marxist Government. We Sir, I heard the speech of the Minister. In the are the Congress (I) Government. We have last stage of his speech, he mentioned that got a national outlook. If the enquiry and the Central Government is going to dissolve other things are done by the State Govern .. the autonomous district council. But he does ment. I cannot vouch for them here. It is not not know what the State Government will my duty to speak on behalf of the State do.So, hIS intention is clear, why he has Government here. But the provisions of this brought this amendment so hurriedly. It is Bill are to see that no State Government can because, they are in a very bad position in take action in a politically motivated manner. Tripura. The present Act will rather give the protection. The Governor will be the person who They have to set up a Commission will decide and not the State Government of according to the present rule. The Commis- Tripura or any other State Government. sion will give its recommendation and the report of the Commission will be submitted to the Assembly. In the meantime, the Su- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- preme Court had given some verdict. So, it is tion is: Possible for them to immediately dissojve IIThat the Bill, as amended, be passed" the autonomous district counciL They wHi Those in favour will please say 'Aye'. definitely take advantage of this amendment. Several Hon. Members: :Aye'. 563 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 564

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Those Baitha, Shri D.L. against will please say' No'. Bajpai, Dr. Rajendra Kumar; SOME HON. MEMBERS: 'NO'. Balaraman, Shri L. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I think the 'Ayes' have it the 'Ayes' have it. Bali, Shrimati Vyjayanthimala

SOME HON. MEMBERS: The 'Noes' Banerjee, Kumari Mamata havait. Basavarajeswari, Shrimaf MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The lobbies are already cleared. I shall put it again. The Basavaraju, Shri G.S. qUQstion is: "That the Bill, as amended, be passed: Basheer, Shri T.

The Lok Sabha divided 8hagat, Shri B.R.

17.18 hrs. 8hagat, Shri H.K.L.

Division No.4] Bharat Singh, Shri

Bhatia, Shri R.L. AVES Shai, Dr. Krupasindhu Abbasi, Shri K.J. Bhosale, Shri Prataprao 8. Abdul Ghafoor, Shri Bhoye, Shri R.M. Ahmad, Shrimati Abida Bhumij, Shri Haren Atka Ram, Shri Bhuria, Shri Dileep Singh Anand Singh, Shri Birbal, Shri Anjiah, Shri T. Birendra Singh, Rao Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannan Birinder Singh, Shri Antony, Shri P.A. 8uta Singh,S. Awasthi, Shri Jagdish Chandrakar, Shri Chandulal Baghel, Shri Pratapsinh

Bairagi, Shri Balkavi Chandrashekharappa. Shr; T. V.

Bairwa, Shri Banwari Lal Chandresh Kumari, Shrimati 565 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA)conslitution(Mmdt.)bill 566

Charles, Shri A. Oigvijay Sinh, Shri

Chaturvedi J Shri Naresh Chandra Dikshit, Shrimati Sheila

Chaturvedi, Shrimafi V~yavati Dinesh Singh, Shri

Chaudhary, Shri Msnphool Singh Dube, Shri Bhishma Dec

Chaudhry, Shri Kamal Engti, Shri Siren Singh

Chavan, Shr,i Ashok Shankerrao Gadgil, Shri V.N.

Chidambaram, Shri P. Gadhvi, Shri B.K.

Chaudhary, Shri Jagannath Gaekwad, Shri Ranjit Singh

Chaudhary, Shri Nandlal Gamit, Shri C.D.

Dabhi, Shri Ajitsinh Gholap, Shri S.G.

Dalbir Singh, Shri Ghosal, Shri Debi

Dalwai, Shri Hussian Chash Shri Simal Kanti

Damar, Shri Samjibhai Gounder, Shri A.S.

Das, Shri Anadi Charan Guha, Dr. Phulrenu

Das, Shri Sudasan Gupta, Shri Janak Raj

Das Munsi, Shri Priya Ranjan Gupta, Shrimati Prabhawati

Dennis, Shri. N. Halder, Prof. M.A.

Deara, Shri Murli

Dev, Shri Sontosh Mohan Jadeja, Shri D.P.

Devi, Prof. Chandra Bhanu Jaffar Sharief, Shri C.K.

Dhariwal, Shri Shanti Jain, Shri Dal Chandar

Dhillon, Dr. G.S. Jain, Shri Nihal Singh

Oigal, Shri Radhakanta Jain, Shri Virdhi Chander

Dighe, Shri Sharad Jatav. Shri Kammodilal 567 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 568

Jena, Shri Chintamani Mahanjan, Shri Y.S.

Jitendra Prasada, Shri Mahendra Singh, Shri

Jitendra Singh, Shri Makwana, Shri Narsinh

Jujhar Singh, Shri Malik, Shri Dharampal Singh

Kabuli, Shri Abdul Rashid Mallick, Shri Lakshman

Kamla Kumari, Kumari Malviya, Shri 8apulal

Kamson, Prof. Meijinlung Mane, Shri R.S.

Kaushal, Shri Jagan Nath Manvendra Singh, Shri

Ken, Shri Lala Ram Meira Kumar, Shrimati

Khan, Shri Aslam Shar Mishra, Shri G.S.

Khan, Shri Khurshid Alam Mishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar

Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub Mishra, Shri Ram Nagina

Khrihar, Shri R.S. Mishra, Shri Uma Kant

Kinder Lal Shri Misra, Shri Nityananda

Krishna Singh Shri Modi, Shri Vishnu

Kuchan, Shri Gangadhar S. Mohanty, Shri 8rajamohan

Kujur, Shri Maurice Motilal Singh Shri

Kumaramangalam, Shn P.R. Mundackal, Shri George Joseph

Kunjambu, Shri Murmu, Shri Sidha Lal

Kuppuswamy, Shri C. K. Mushran, Shri Ajay

Kurien, Prof.P.J. Naik, Shri G.Devaraya

Law, Shri Asutosh Naik, Shri Shantaram

Lowang, Shri Wangpha Narayanan, Shri K.R.

Mahabir Prasad, Shri Negi, Shri Chadra Mohan Singh 569 Sixth Sch9dule to AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA)constitution (amdt.) bill 570

Netam, Shri Arvind Patel, Shri Vijc:ty N.

Odedra. Shri Bharat Kumar Patnaik, Shrimati Jayanti

Odeyar, Shri Channaiah Pattanaik. Shri Jagannath

Oraon. Shrimati Sumati Peruman, Dr. P. Vallal

Pande, Shri Raj Mangal Pilot, Shri Rajesh

Pandey Shri damodar PooJary, Shri Janardhana

Pandey, Shri Madan Pradhan, Shri K.N.

Pandey, Shri Manoj Pradhani, ~hri K.

Panigraphi, Shri Chintamani Puran Chandra, Shri

Panigrahi, Shri Sriballav Purohit, ~hr; Banwari Lal

Panika. Shri Ram Pyare Pushpa Devi, Kumar;

Panja, Shri A.K. Qureshi, Shri Aziz

Pant, Shri K.C. Rai. Shri Raj Kumar

Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan Raj Karan Singh. Shri

Parashar, Prof. Narain Chand Rajeshwaran. Dr. V.

Pardhi, Shri Keshaorao Rajhans, Dr. G.S.

Patel, Shri Ahmed M. Ram, Shri Ramswaroop

Patel, Shri Mohanbhai Ram Awadh Prasad. Shri

Patel, Shri Ram Pujan Ram Dhan. Shri

Patel, Shri U.H Ram Prakash. Ch.

Pathak. Shr; Chandra Kishore Ram Samujhawan. Shri

Patil, Shri Balasaheb Viekh Ram Singh, Shri

Patil, Shri Prakash V. Ramachandra. Shri Mullappally

Patil. Shri Veerendra Rana Vir Singh. Shri 571 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 572

Ranga, Prof. N.G. Shah, Shri Anoopchand

Ranganath, Shri K.H. Shahi, Shri Laliteshwar

Rao. Shri J. Chokka Shailesh, Dr. B.L.

Rao, Shri J. Vengala Shaktawat, Prof. Nirmala Kumari

Rao. Shri P.V. Narashimha Shankaranand, Shri B.

Rathawa, Shri Amarsinh Shankarlal, Shri

Rathod, Shri Uttam Sharma, Shri Nand Kishore

Raut, Shri Bhola Sharma, Shri Nawal Kisnore

Ravani, Shri Navin Sharma, Shri Pratap Bhanu

Rawat, Shri Harish Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna

Rawat, Shri Kamla Prasad Shervani, Shri Saleem I.

Rawat. Shri Prabhu Lal Shingda, Shri D.B

Sahu, Shri Shiv Prasad Shivendra Bahandur Singh, Shri

Sait, Shri Azeez Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mohd.

Sait, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Singh, Shri Bhanu Pratap

Sakargaym, Shri Kalicharan Singh, Shri D.G.

Salahuddin, Shri Singh, Shri K. N.

Sangma, Shri Williamson Singh, Shri Kamla Prasad

Sankata, Prasad, Dr. Singh, Shri Krishna Pratap

Santosh Kumar Singh, Shri Singh, Shri Lal Vijay Pratap

Satyendra Chandra, Shri Shing, Shri N.Tombi

Sayeed Shri P.M. Singh, Shri S.D.

Sen, Shri Bholanath Singh Deo Shri K.P.

Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad Sodi, Shri Mankuram 573 Sixth Schedule to AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA)cons'titution(amdt.)bill 574

Sdlanki, Shri Kalyan Singh Vijayaraghavan, Shri V.S.

Sparrow. Shri R.S. Vir Sen, Shri

Sukhadia, Shrimati Indubala Vyas, Shri Girdhari lal

Sukhbuns Kaur, Shrimati Wadiyar, Shri Srikanta Datta

Sultanpuri, Shri K.D. Wasnik, Shri Mukul

Suman, Shri R.P. Yadav, Shri Kailash

Sundararaj, Shri Yadav, Shri R.N.

Sunder Singh, Ch. Yadav, Shri Ram Singh

Sunil Dutt, Shri Yadav, Shri Shyam lal

Surendra Pal Singh, Shri Yadav, Shri Subhash

Swami Prasad Singh, Shri Yadava, Shri Sal Ram Singh

Swell, Shri G.G Yadava, Shri D.P.

Thakkar, Shrimati Usha Yashpal, Singh, Shri

Thara Devi, Kumari O.K. Yogesh, Shn Yogeshwar Prasad

ThomQs, Prof. K.V. Zainul Basher, Shri

Thorat, Shri Bhausaheb NOES

Thungon, Shri P.K. Acharia, Shri Basudeb

Tigga, Shri Simon Appalanarasimha, Shri P.

Tilakdhari Singh, Shri Bhoopathy, Shri G.

Tomar. Shrimati Usha Rani Biswas, Shri Ajoy

Tyagi, Shri Dharamvir Singh Chatterjee, Shri Somnath

Tytler . Shri Jagdish Choubey, Shri Narayan

Vanakar, Shri Punam Chand Mithabhai Choudhary, Shri Samal Brahma

Verma, Dr. C.S. Chowdhary, Saifuddin 575 Sixth Schedule to NOVEMBER 29, 1988 constitution (amdt.) bill 576

Dandavate, Prof., Madhu Riya, Shri 8aju Ban

Datta,Shri Amal Roy, Dr. Sudhir

Deo,Shri V.Kishore Chandra S. Saha, Shri Ajit Kumar

Dore, Shri H.A. Saha, Shri Gadadhar

Goswami, Shri Dinesh Sambu, Shri C.

Guraddi, Shri S.M. Shahabuddin, Shri Syed

Hannan Mollah, Shri Somu. Shri N.V.N.

Iyer, Shri V.S. Krishna Swami Prasad Singh, Shri

Jhansi Lakshmi, Shrimati N.F- Tulsiram, Shri V.

Kalpna Devi, Dr. T. Zainal Abedin, Shri

Malik, Shri Purna Chandra MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Subject to Masudal Hossain, Shri Syed correction the result· of the division is:

Misra, Shri Satyagopal Ayes: 266 Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta Noes: 40 Patel, Dr. A.K. The motion was adopted Rao Dr. G. Vijaya Rama MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, I want Rao, Shri V. Sobhanadreeswara the sense of the House. Instead of Item No. 10, can the House take up Item No.11? Ratnam, Shri N. Venkata SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Yesterday Reddi, Shri C. Madhav , he should have been given the time to finish his speech. That you did not do . And today Reddy, Shri Bezawada Papi to our surprise, this Bill has been put at the third place. Now you want to give it priority. Reddy, Shri E. Ayyapu What is all this? We do not agree.

Reddy, Shri M. Raghuma MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Now, I am

·The following Members also recorded their votes:- AYES: Shri Lachchi Ram, Shri Swami Prasad Singh, Shri Mohd. Ayub Khan and Shrimati Madhuree Singh. NOES: Shri C. Janga Reddy and Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh. 577 National Highways AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Authority of India Bill 578

simply putting it before the House. If the (SHRI RAJESH PILOT) : Mr. Deputy House agrees, we can take up the National Speaker, Sir, I thank all the members who Highways Authority of India Bill. have taken keen interest in this important discussion and for their valuable sugges- SHRI SOMNATH CHATTERJEE: On tions. I stated yesterday, that the first thing is the condition that you will not take the Sixti- to think ever why this need arose, why did we eth Amendment Bift today. think orwhy did we decide to have a National Highway Authority.As the hon. Members are MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If he finishes aware, most of the members had agreed early, we will take up item No.1 0 but we will yesterday that quality of work has not been continue with it tomorrow. Upto six or clock uniform all over the country and the main only we are sitting today .. worry of the Government, specially of our Department, has been that whatever little { Interruptions) resources we have or whatever little resources we gather for this important sector, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: So, as the if they are not properly utilised, then it be- House has decided, I am asking Mr. Rajesh comes a matter of concern. I will just quote a Pilot to speak now. small example. My colleague will pardon me lnd if I am wrong, he can correct me. There SHRI G.G. SWELL: We must know is a Bulgaria Express Way which was sanc- because this is a Constitution Amendment tioned in 1972-73 at a cost of Rs 3.8 crores. Bill. The sanction was given in that year itself and it should have been completed by 1978. You MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If itam No. 11 will be surprised that even the acquisition of IS adopted, then item No 10 will be taken up. the land for the project has not been done yet But the time allotted to that Bill will spill over and the cost has already gone up to As 36 till to·morrow. Anyhow the voting will be crores because the more you delay, the cost tomorrow only. Even if it comes up for dis- goes up. Same is case with the second cussion today, after t"e Minister finishes this Hooghly bridge. The first sanction for this Bill, the voting will take place tomorrow. important bridge was Rs 4.5 crores in 1969. Suppose the Minister finishes early, we will Today, the cost has gone up to Rs. 230 take up item No.1 0 but the discussion will crores. Of course, some modifications, continue tomorrow also.That is very clear. some technical amendments are there, but SHRI G.G. SWELL: There will be no imagine the cost escalation because of the voting today. delay in the project implementation. There MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : No Voting are so many examples I can quote where the will not be today. projects carry on delaying. And this was the main worry which brought us to this need ... (Interruptions).

17.21 hrs SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA (8ankura) : Even some Central projects are also being NATIONAL HIGHWAYS AUTHORITY. delayed. OF INDIA BILL-CONTD. SHRI RAJESH PILOT: I am not denying [English] that we are not guilty. I am not saying that. Let us think the whole country as one. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Whether you are at wrong or we are at MINISTRY OF SURFACE TRANSPORT wrong, some of us are at wrong and we must 579 National Highways NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Authority of India Bill 580

[She Rajesh Pilot] was worse than the IRDP or the NREP punish the wrong person. whether on that roads. When I checked up, I was told that side or on this side. So. this is the basic crores of rupees had been released for the requirement that perturbed our mind and we last three or four years. So, this is the condi- though overto go in for a National Highways tion which a responsible citizen or a repre- Authority. sentative who is in a position will not react to it. That is why we though over and discussed I totally agree with the hon. Members with all the Chief Ministers. that while you are travelling on the road, from the road quality itself you can make out We discussed it in Transport Develop- which State you are passing through, or you ment Councils. I agree that some of them can make out that the State has changed had not agreed. Some had their own reser- and some other States has come. I fully vations which I clarified in my yesterday's share their sentiments. So. this was the need intervention. So, this was one need. which was troubling us for the last two-three years. In all the Transport Development The second point was the fund. If you Councils meetings, I had a discussion with see the records today, in the 7th Plan, we them, in all the Indian Road Congress have allocation of Rs 891.75 crores which is Committee metings I had a discussion with in comparision with the requirement is not a them, I had a direct conversation with the very high. Knowing very well the importance Chief Engineer, and our intentions for the of the sector, the Central Government has last three years have been towards the best put their best efforts and we are likely to quality of work on the road. As far as the spend double of it, that is round about As. maintenance is concerned, some of the 1600 crores in the Seventh Plan itself. So, Members pointed out yesterday that the the Government's intention is very clear that amount was very meagre. I do agree it is very we know the importance and we are putting meagre. But if some State can do the good our best efforts on the sector and we have work with the same amount, why can't other already spent about Rs. 1300 to Rs 1400 States do it ?That is another point to be crores and only one year of the Seventh Plan thought over or to be considered by the han. is left and we are hopeful that the Govern- ~embers. The allocation of the funds may ment is going to continue to support our be meagre, but if you compare that with the cause and we will get round about Rs. 1600 other States, you will find that their mainte- crores. nance ratio is the same for every kilometre of National Highway all over the country. In addition to this, from the World Bank, from the Asian Bank another aid of 400 Sir, I was travelling in one of the States million dollars is also in the pfpeline which is with the han. Chief Minister of that 5tate-1 coming to different projects. We have also am not blaming that particular State be- selected round about 900 kilometres to be cause it was run by our own party. When we made as express highways. We are also were coming I asked: .. Are we going out of going in for another 3000 kilometres con- the city?" It was a by-pass through the capital struction of four-Ianing by the end of eighth of that State. So, I asked him" are we gOing Plan. All these plans are in the pipeline. With for some other function; in the rural areas?" these plans, after implementation, the econ- He said no, this is a by-pass of the national omy of the country will further improve. highway. So, imagine the condition of the road. That is why I asked him "Are we on a PROF. N.G. RANGA : (Guntur) : What rural road?" The national highway by-p~ss about the river transport? 581 National Highways AGRAHAYANA 8,1910 (SAKA) Authority of India Bill 582

SHAI AAJESH PILOT: I will come to Another point was made about the tax. that point later. So, Sir, with these require- In the last TOe Meeting we had decided that ments, we think that if this authority comes there should be onetime tax all over the up, it will further help augment and supple- country. What is happening today is that one ment our resources. We might go to the State Government has implemented the public for bonds. We might think over of scheme, other States are not implementing taking of some loans from other private it. So, that State Government &uffers. In my agencies in a different form if we have a last TOC meeting, every Member of the separate authority for it. So, resources will State who represented the State Govern- be taken care of. I must thank all the Mem- ment, whether it is the Transport Minister or bers of Parliament who really helped us in PWD Minister, all of them had agreed in the last proposal for enhancing the cess from principle, about the one time tax policy with 3.5 NP per litre on petrol and including diesel a clause that it should be refunded in case cess in the Central Road Fund which really that vehicle is going to some other States so had given relief of Rs. 320 crore. Out of that that other States also could be helped from the State Government will also be helped, that fund. Now, that scheme is worked out, round about Rs 100 crores. We will get Rs we have constituted a small Committee of 100 crores for the Central Road funds. So, officials and within 15-20 days, they are these are our efforts. We know that today the going to submit the plan and then we will traffic has gone so high. The figure says that implement that. earlier in 1905-51, it was round about 22% by roads and 78 % by other sectors. Today Sir, permit system was mentioned in this figure has reserved. Road has taken yesterday's speeches. As the House is over 78 % and 20 to 220/0 is taken over by aware, in 1986 itself, rather in the end of other means of transport, say railways, etc. 1985, we removed the quota system of na- I am talking of freight. Similarly, for passen- tional permit on trucks which was a den of gers, it was round about 30% and 700/0 and corruption. Every permit was sold and we now it has become 50:50. So, the traffic on have liberalised the permits. Now, anybody the road has become very high and the who wants to have a permit, he has just to go pressure is very high. This is what I ex- and deposit the fee straight and take a per- plained to the Government and knowing the mit. In that, revenue increase is there and importance of the road traffic for another 10 mal-functioning of the system went away. to 20 years, we have made a scheme for all Similarly, In respect of the Motor Vehicles over the country, that is, in high-density Act, we have taken a lot of measures that traffic area, we should have 4-lanes, we wherever there are permits for the bus serv- should have express ways and we should ices issued, wherever we have seen that have State highway to National Highways. there is mal-functioning, we have again Movement on the National Highway is taken the decision that we liberalise the cleared; we will also come out with ruins; system and if A or B or any citizen of the whatever the hon. Members have said in country wants to ply his bus on a non- their speeches which could not be incorpo- nationalised route, the Government will rated in the Act, we will be taking their have no objection if it is economically viable suggestions into consideration and bring to him so that there is no feeling that 'without them the rules and we will lay them also on a wrong practice you cannot get a permit or the Table of the House so that Members can without pressure you cannot get a permit.' further read them and give us their valuable Similarly, other road tax. driving licences, suggestions, even further to the rules. medical facilities - all these steps have been 583 National Highways NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Authority of India Bill 584

[Sh. Rajesh Pilot] project. taken to strengthen the transport sector and the road safety in the country. SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABUL: Thank you very much. Some local points from different hon. Members for their States and areas were SHRI RAJESH PILOT: The hon. mem- mentioned. , would also cover them one by ber has said about the other sectors or other one, whichever I can cover in the time allot- connections in the area, Vayudoot is being ted to me. I will go from the North. Kabuliji encouraged there. We aretrying to add more has mentioned about as an alternative to the viable flights. specially in that sector so that Bamihal National Highway. Sir, it is a matter till that road comes up in H·ose areas we will of concern, we also know that it is a very keep our sensitive areas connected with sensitive area and it IS really a fact that if that main lines. road gets blocked, for days together you cannot cross towards the Valley and com- SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI: Spe- munication to the Valley really gers blocked cially Batot-Bhadarwoh. (Interruptions) and last time when the road was blocked, he is right when he said that we had lifted SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Another road kerosene oil, we had lifted rations also. So, they have said is Kishtwar to Batote woh. It we are already considering the proposal of is already a National Highway. The other Mughal road. As far as shal ing is concernod, portion, frankly speaking, the public repre- I hope the hon. Member will agree with me, sentative wants it to be taken over by Border this is government to government because a Roads, but the State Government is really Member of Parliament will be happy to get a thinking whether to hand over to Border road. but how it is made should be left to us. Roads or national agencies or not. So, dis- Whether I share with the State Government cussion is going on. It has to be in consulta- or the State Government shares with me. tion with the State Government. I really that will not be much of a botheration to the agree with you that two accidents have given hon. Member, but we will certainly tnke up us a feeling that we must be very strict about this project soon, it is already in the Planning it, when 30-40 lives were lost in the last two Commission, the moment it is cleared, we accidents. are likely to start the work and 1 also want to go on the target date so that the amount will AN HON. MEMBER: 64 lives. not exceed-today it is Rs 25 crores or Rs. 50 crores and it becomes Rs. 100 crores by SHRI RAJESH PILOT: L will carry the the time the work starts. We would like to feeling of the hon. Members to the State finish it in the very short time where the Government and I will request the State money could be saved. Government to take a decision fast so that we can help them. SHRI ABDUL RASHID KABULI (Srinagar) : Sshall we expect the implemen- I fully agree with the han. Member from tation of this? Andhra Pradesh when he said it. In the last discussion, Shri Madhav Reddi and others SHRI RAJESH PILOT: This is what I pointed out that in checking of the trucks or have said. The moment it is cleared by the checking of the traffic, we should have an Planning Commission ground work has officer. This was their suggestion in their been done we will be able to start the work. discussion also. At that time, during discus- In principle the Government has cleared this sion, I mentioned to them, it is a very genuine 585 National Highways AGRAHA YANA 8, 1910 (SAKAl Authority of India Bill 586

suggestion. We should somehow imple- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : No, I am ment that. We have takes care of it in the telling about the vehicles that are stopped for rules. But the only problem is, may be State paying toll tax. Those vehicles may be Governments do not have so many officers stopped at side way without affecting the available. For every police checking, you trraffic on the t,ighway so that other vehicles have got a police officer available with you. can go. I discussed with the State Governments. There is another point. They say, "Suppose SHRI RAJESH PILOT: It is at alt the between point lA' and point '8' we have to collecting points. At the national highway, check a transport or traffic, from the begin- we will implement it, pucca. ning, normally we put a rank below an officer and the final decision is normally taken by the officer." If you put officers on both sides, Another suggestion was the Financial it may not be practical. But we have told Corporation. I fully agree with the hon. them, in most cases, you try to put officers so Member. This is also an idea of the Govern- that this problem of malfunctioning of the ment that we might also go in for financial total system is avoided. I do share their corporation, in addition to national highway feeling. Sometimes anywhere policeman authority. But the National Highways Author- stops the truck and asks; IIShow me your ity of India Bill itself has a clause where we 'licence: show me your permit; from where can go for bonds and supplement our finan- you are coming how much is the load." He cial resources. may not be on duty for this particular job. But this sort of harassment goes on. But it is on We have taken lot of steps on the road both sides. Today also I had meetings with safety side. In the last Transport Develop- the truck people. They also got used to it. ment Council, all han. Members from the They would not like to take permit from the different States have agreed that one per- Government. They would like to use other cent of collection of motor vehicles tax will be means because those are readily available, spent on the road safety side in each State. short and fast. We have to improve on both This is a very good decision. One percent of sectors. We have to be strict on the police the total collection of the motor vehicles tax side. We have also to educate and inculcate would be utilised to improve the road safety. these habits in truck owners and trans- It is a very good amount if the State Govern- porters and we are trying on both sides. ment spends that properly or the Central Government can spend, wherever we have MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER : Mr. Minis- to spend. We have constituted National ter, at the toll gates, there are a lot of prob- Road Safety Council. There is also similar lems. They are stopping all the vehicles, the committee at the State level and district other vehicles also cannot move at all. Why level. We are trying to inculcate road safety can't you put some side road where they can conscious at each level because unless and stop the trucks and the Highway is free so until people get into safety culture, rules do that other vehicles move. In any emergency, not help, law will not help. We are trying on even for hospital, you cannot go. For one or both sides, by making very strict rules, in the two hours, you have to wait. Motor Vehicles Act, by enforcing our Acts in a very strict manner and also inculcating the SHRI RAJESH PILOT: This was done culture of road safety in the States and in the at some points in U.P. What we are trying country. with the State Government is, if we can have a uniform police for octroi. Most of the Members have asked about 587 National Highways NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Authority of India Bill 588 rSh. Rajesh Pilot] the road sector, especially on the national fhe length of the national highways. How highways. member from Andhra Pradesh Was very right when he said that after independence, I must inform the House that our Prime there has been no addition. But if you see the Minister is very eager to have this system total share, it might be quite good for Andhra improved and at so many places our Prime Pradesh. But it was pointed out everywhere. Minister pointed out that national highway Now some kilometres have been enhanced can only improve if the quality of work is and all proposals are pending with the Plan- improved and we could get this much money ning Commission. The main drawback in not from the Government because of the kind enhancing the national highways has been help of the Prime Minister himself for this funds. In the last six month~, some relief has sector. been given to us. The policy we followed till now was that we should improve our existing SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : Finance national highways first. There is no use of my itJ1ifli5ter is here. declaring all State Highways as national highways if I cannot give them money to SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Finance Minis- improve or the Central Government cannot ter is always here. I have been thanking him give them finances to widen or strengthen and everyone is saying that the Finance them. Just putting a Board of National High- Minister is sitting here. He will certainly have ways does not serve the purpose. Psycho- soft corner for the national highways. I am logically, the Central Government may feel very hopeful that we will be able to meet the that its burden has gone away. But that is not requiremants of the han. Members on the the intention. Now, with this National High- national highways soon. way Authority com ing up, we hope to have additional funds and to get additional re- Regarding inland water transport, hone sources by various mean. Members have mentioned about the problems of their areas. (Interruptions). PROF. N.G. RANGA : What about the waterways' ? MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The han. Minister represents Rajasthan. Don't worry. SHRI RAJESH PILOT: I am coming to that. Our Plan is that in the next ten or 11 SHRI RAJESH PILOT: I will certainly years which are available, we will select the write to han. Members on their points. Nearly sectors. I mentioned that 900 KM have been 20 Members have taken part and I have selected as Express Way from Ahmedabad noted all the points. I wi" write on each point to Baroda. Work is already going on. Simi- to hone Members and what action is being larly, we are selecting different sectors. 900 taken so that you can also have a detailed KM are already marked. 3,000 KM have report on that. been marked four-Ianing of roads. It depends on the funds. If we gat the required On the inland water way. I have been resources, we will be ~ble to implement the telling in this House and on otherforums that recommendations of the NTPC and other this is one sector which requires greater Commissions to meet the total requirement attention. Although in the Seventh Plan, we of the country which is round about 66,000 have round about Rs. 155 crores, I do share KM. This was four or five years back. If you the feeling of an hon.Member that the work see the requirements today, it migJ:lt go up to has not picked up that faster. We have 85,000 KM. We plan to put highest priority on declared two waterways. One is the Ganges 589 National Highways AGRAHAYANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Authority of India Bill 590 and the other is the Brahmaputra. Survey in which we have done now. I think the Author- four to five waterways in going on. ity will give publicity in all the newspapers, regional newspapers. We are also issuing In the Buckingham canal and West small booklets so that the common man Coast canal, survey is being done. As soon knows knows how much opportunity is avail- as the survey is completed, I have been able to him in this water transport system, as insisting with the Authority that we must get a subsidy. He can build up this economic the vessels. We must start the operation of condition in a better way and improve his the barges the moment we declare water- economic condition. These are our efforts. ways. We have decided that the moment a This sector is a serving sector. Our all-out river is declared a waterway, the infrastruc- efforts are continuing. But, we cannot really ture required for operation in that particular improve the complete system vernight. We waterway, should also go hand in hand. The have been sincerely trying to improve the day you declare waterway, that day system to give the best quality of work and operation should start. Otherwise, there is best quality of service in this water transport, no use of declaring a river as a waterway and road transport etc. We have also given in- to start infrastructure after two years. I do structions to the State Governments that agree with the hon. Member and we will wherever they make canals, they must keep improve our system. We will pay greater in mind that they can have inland water attention to this work that infrastructure transport system. The bridges and their should come out the moment we declare length should be adjusted accordingly. Fa- waterways. cilities are available for the barges to carry freight and cargo from one place to another We are paying greater attention to the and they should be fully utilised. waterway. Some Dutch vessels had come on 25th. Two barges had come. We are also With these words, I assure the han. recently in touch with the Governments of House that the intention to bring this Author- neighbouring countries where waterway ity is similar to the feelings expressed by the system is very successful. Han. Members in their speeches. We will implement to the core of it so that the purpose for which it has been brought is In Russia. Waterways system is very served. With these words, I thank all the han. successful. The Dutch peaRle are using it in Members who have taken part in th is debate. a great measure. East Germany is using it to Therefore. I commend the Bill for the consid- a great extent. We have got their technical eration of the han. House. know-how also. We plan to use this transport system in our Inland waterways to a great degree. This will also be a good avenue for MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The ques- employment. We have already decided tion is : about this. Through the banks, if any young man or any graduate wants to take loan, he "That the Bill to provide for the can and there is subsidy available. I think it. constitution of an Authority for the develop- any young man wants to take loan to buy a ment, maintenance and management of barge etc. where he can work and earn, he national highways and for matters con- can do it and I think it is coming to five-and- nected therewith or incidental thereto, be half per cent and the rest is paid by Govern- taken into consideration". ment. It is a very good scheme. But I think the publicity is not being given to that extent, The motion was adopted. 591 National Highways NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Authority of India Bill 592

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The House MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Thera is no will now take up Clause-by-Clause consid- amendment moved to Clause 11. eration. The question is: MR. DEPUTY SPE:AKER : There is no amendment. Clause 2. The question is: "The Clause 11 stand part of the sm.·

"The Clause 2 stand part of the Bill". The motion was adopted

The motion was adopted Clause 11 was added to the BiD

Clause 2 was added to the Bill MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: There is no amendment to Clause 12 to 37. Therefore. I. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now Clause will put Clause 12 to 37 to the vote of the 3. Mr. Shahabuddin, are you moving your House. The Question is: amendments No.1 and 2? "The Clauses 12 to 37 stand part of the SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : I was Bill." saying that in view of the assurance given by the Hon. Minister .. The motion was adopted

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Are you Clauses 12 to 37 were add9d to the moving your amendments or not? Bill.

SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: I have MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: The ques- already supported my amendments in the Hon is: course of my speech. "That Clause 1, the Enacting Formula MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Thera is no and the long Title stand part of the Bill". amendment moved to Clause 3. There is no amendment to Clause 4 to 10. So, I put The motion was adopted. Clause 3 to 10 together to the vote of the House. The question is : Clause 1, the Enacting Formula and the long Title were added to the Bill 14That Clauses 3 to 10 stand part of the Bill".

The motion was adopted SHRI RAJESH PILOT : Sir, I beg to move: Clause 3 to 10 were added to the Bill "That the BiU be passed". MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now Clause 11, Mr. Shahabuddin, are you moving your MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Motion Amendment? moved:

SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN : I have "That the Bill be passed. already supported it during the course of my speech. Shri Tulsiram 593 National Highways AGRAHA Y ANA 8. 1910 (SAKA) Aut~ority of India Bill 594

[ Translation] would like to congratulate the hon. M;nister and would request him to grant maximum SHRI V. TULSIRAM (Nagarkurnool) : funds to Andhra Pradesh specially for the Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the han, Minister is construction of national highways and their very dynamic and young and I hope that he extension. will act beyond the limits of the assurances he has just given in the House. He is trying [English] his best to improve the condition of national highways and everyone including a veteran, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I request the senior and experienced Finance Minister is Members that when you are taking up the looking to Mr. Pilot. Hon. Minister has men- third reading, you try to speak on the merits tioned about the inadequacy of funds. I hope and demerits. Once again if you put your and believe that he will provide the nlaximum demands, it does not become the Third of funds for the improvement of national Reading. "ighways. [ Translation] The Government should make their constant efforts to improve the condition of SHRI C. JANGA REDDI (Han- national highways. As the han. Minister has amkonda): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to just stated that some more funds are being support this Bill and the speech of Mr. Pilot provided to Andhra Pradesh and Hydera- deserves appreciation from all and I am no bad. I would like to know as to how much exception to it. But he has not disclosed the amount is being increased. He is a very wise amount being granted for it. Earlier, I had Minister. The hon. Minister is a benevolent written to him only once during his term of person. I want to know from the Han. Minis- four years for one national highway but did ter as to how much amount has been pro- not receive any reply from him till now. I vided. I also want to bring to his kind notice would request the hon. Minister that the that in Andhra Pradesh no national highway prices of petrol have gone up and with it the has been extended. I request him to cover share of roads has also increased but its the maximum area by the national highways. payment has not bee" made. You are going Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you are very well to set up an Authority for the National High- aware that the condition of national highways and have also laid down the standard ways has worsened due to rains. When we cost of construction in regard to these roads go to Bangalore from Hyderabad, we see which varies from placeto place. Such aeost that the roads are in a very dilapidated con- is very high at the places where the stone dition and have pits all over its stretched. and sand is not available. Therefore, the Even driving a vehicle on these roads has Authority should be given some powers to become difficult. Therefore, these should be increase the fixed rates of the cost of con- got repaired. I also want to tell you that now- struction in such cases. a-days the quality of construction of roads has become so poor that just after construc- Sir, the national highways have been tion there develop cracks on then1. There- constructed in Andhra Pradesh just because fore, today the Government should keep a of such incidence that if we have to go to close watch on the periormance of the con- Bombay. we have to go there via Andhra tractors and issue strict instructions to the Pradesh. That caused the construction of a contractors and engineers regarding the national highway in Hyderabad. Similarly, construction of roads so that the roads may from Madras to Bombay or from Delhi to not get broken just after their completion. r Madras, we have to go via Hyderabad. That 595 National Highways NOVEMBER 29, 1988 Authority of India 8i/1 596

[Sh. C. Janga Reddij lorries of the transport companies. again caused the construdion of another national highway in Hyderabad and Andhra [English] Pradesh because they come on tHeir way to South These highways have not been con- SHRI RAJESH PILOT: Sir, I fully agree structed specifically for Andhra Pradesh. with the Hon. Member What he has said that They are incidentally there. I, therefore, these methods are being used is right. request you to get a national highway con- Today morning I was inaugurating a com- structed which may serve as a direct link puter centre in STA in Delhi. When I want between Hyderabad and Delhi. In fact, there - before that it was mentioned in the Hyderabad is enroute to South India. Thus newspapers that I was going to inaugurate Andhra Pradesh happens to be covered by this-somebody walked upto me and gave the national highways. So what I want is that me an original copy of the challan receipts. soma such highways should be got con- Counterfoit is kept with them. For admitting a structed even in my State. fee for the road tax and other permits, the proforma is the same and the receipt is the Expect Madras and Bangalore, there same. What they do is that they torn it and are several other places such as district give it to different touts. They take money of headquarter Jagdalpur and Kunta. If we higher amount and put less amount. I am not have to go Madhya Pradesh from Bhopal, denying that factor. we have to go there via Hyderabad. But Jagdalpur and Kunta are quite near to I have also mentioned it in the meeting Andhra Pradesh. Therefore, I would request itself. One day in the borders of Delhi, UP you to construct there a national highway. It and Haryana in the night when I was coming is very necessary to construct a national from somewhere I saw about two hundred highway between Hyderabad and Jagdalpur trucks being parked on the road. I stopped via Parthal and Varangal and another na· there and I went to the counter and asked tional highway between Siddipur and them why is this delay (Interruptions)... I Suryapur via Jalgaon. went inside and asked him where is his register. how does he collect the money. He At the time of discussion on the Bill in the did not have any account. He did not know House, I was not present here. I, therefore, how much money is in the box. He did not want to speak on it with the prior permission know how much money they are paying. from the deputy Speaker. The lorries of Almost all of them were drunk. Then I got the Rajasthan, Haryana and Punjab bearing the drivers together and asked them why this bogus number plate of Andhra Pradesh delay is caused. They showed me a small carry foodgrains but load of foodgrains is note book and said that if they write green totally lost some where in transit. During the here, then no tax is required from here to the last four years I have sent them at least 10 of destination. It is such a big group which is such complaints. Nobody knows where the functioning. If they write red then you have to lorries bearing the bogus number of Rajast· pay two borders out of four. Those codes han go. These lorries carry the load of chil- were functioning. lies and foodgrains and their numbers are changed at the check-posts with the conniv- Then I wrote to the Hon. Chief Minister ance of your officers. Ten such complaints of Haryana Shri Bansi Lal at that time-a.nd have been received from Varangal. What I to the Chief Minister of UP also and said that mean to say is that some provision should be they have to initiate action. But the system made in this Bill, to have some control on the was so bad that today it is a matter of 597 National Highways AGRAHAY ANA 8, 1910 (SAKA) Authority of India Bill 598 concern for avery citizen. Even if you point for the National Highway Jagdalpur which he out an injustice and fight for justice, you get has mentioned, I think the Hon. Members wiU absorbed in the system itself. Till now three be happy when they come to know which are years are over, I don't think any action has all the National Highways that are declared. been taken against those defaulters. They I cannot say because it is lying in the Plan- may be suspended; but not strict action has ning Commission. It will not be right on my been taken. part to inform the House till it is totally cleared by the Government and the whole process is That is why we had brought the Motor complete. It is not correct to give half infor- Vehicles Ad for a strict action from the mation to the House. But knowing the feel- Cantral Government . This will help us to ings ofthe Hon. Members, we had requested improve the system to which Mr. Janga the Planning Commission to add some more Reddy has referred. He said that fraud Highway kilometres to those States, where number plates have been put. Now we have we have not been able to give first and to opened a national register for registration those States where the requirement and and a national register for driving. We will necessity is a must. Now with the funding of have a computerised system all over. Hone the National Highways Authority and the truck is caught in Hyderabad, we will just ring additional resources we will be able to take up Delhi and say please check up the up more km on the national highways and number, whether it is on the computer or not. more length on the national highways. We will get an answer. 'yes or no'. Till now we did not have the address of those people. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The ques- You carry on opening the registers for 20 tion is: years back vehicles and the address is changed and they say, I had applied, you "That the Bill be passed. n have not changed my address and all that. All these problems are com ing. That is why The motion was adopted it took us 2 112 to 3 years to work out the Motor Vehicles Act. With the .,ew scheme MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The House we are hopeful that in another five to six stands adjourned to reassemble tomorrow months the work will start picking up and at 11 A.M. become smooth. 18.00 hr. I will certainly take care of the complaint which he has mentioned about trucks from The Lok Sabha then adjoumed till Eleven Rajasthan, Haryana and Punjab going and of the Clock on Wednesday, November 30 misusing the roads of Andhra Pradesh. As 1988/Agrahayana 9, 1910 (Saka)

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