THE HOUSE COMMITTEE on REDISTRICTING SUBCOMMITTEE on CONGRESSIONAL REDISTRICTING ONE 78Th LEGISLATURE JUNE 28, 2003 **************************************************
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Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 1 ************************************************** THE HOUSE COMMITTEE on REDISTRICTING SUBCOMMITTEE on CONGRESSIONAL REDISTRICTING ONE 78th LEGISLATURE JUNE 28, 2003 ************************************************** 9:00 a.m. Texas Southern University 3100 Cleburne Street Houston, Texas Roderick Paige College of Education Auditorium MORNING PROCEEDINGS Reported by Susan Perry Miller, CSR, RMR, CRR Spanish Interpreter: Beatriz Wright Vietnamese Interpreter: Alice Huynh Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 2 1 A P P E A R A N C E S 2 3 Committee Panel: 4 Chair, Representative Geanie Morrison 5 Vice-Chair, Representative Ron Wilson 6 Representative Phil King 7 Representative Vilma Luna 8 Representative Robert Talton 9 10 Also Present: 11 Representative Rick Noriega 12 Representative Garnet Coleman 13 Representative Martha Wong 14 Representative Joe Deshotel 15 Representative Jessica Farrar 16 Representative Dora Olivo 17 Representative Senfronia Thompson 18 Representative Sylvester Turner 19 Representative Chris Bell 20 Representative Sheila Jackson Lee 21 Representative John Culberson 22 Representative Gene Green 23 Representative Nick Lampson 24 Representative Joe Moreno 25 Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 3 1 PRELIMINARY PROCEEDINGS 2 (The meeting was called to order by the 3 Chair, Representative Geanie Morrison, at 9:48 a.m.) 4 (Representative Vilma Luna is not 5 present.) 6 MORNING PROCEEDINGS 7 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: We're ready to 8 proceed. First of all, I would like to recognize Dwight 9 Boykins, who is going to welcome us to Texas Southern. 10 MR. BOYKINS: Good morning. 11 AUDIENCE: Good morning. 12 MR. BOYKINS: Good morning. My name is 13 Dwight Boykins, and I'm director of governmental affairs 14 and community relations here at Texas Southern 15 University, and we'd like to welcome you to the campus 16 of TSU. Thank you. 17 (Applause) 18 MR. BOYKINS: On behalf of our Board of 19 Regents and the president, Dr. Priscilla D. Slade, of 20 Texas Southern University, again, we'd like to say 21 welcome. If there's anything that I can do to make your 22 visit here more comfortable, please let me know. Thank 23 you very much. 24 AUDIENCE: More chairs. 25 MR. BOYKINS: More chairs? I'm working Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 4 1 on it. 2 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Thank you, Dwight. 3 I want also to thank Texas Southern for all that they've 4 done to help set up, and they are working very 5 diligently to get more chairs and to accommodate each 6 and every one of you. Dwight has been great and the 7 whole staff that has been working to make sure that 8 things run well, and there are always a few snags that 9 happen with equipment but we're working and proceeding. 10 We will now start the meeting. The House 11 Subcommittee on Congressional Redistricting Number One 12 will now come to order. 13 (Gavel) 14 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Will the clerk 15 please call the roll. 16 MR. UNRUH: Representative Morrison? 17 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Present. 18 MR. UNRUH: Representative King? 19 REPRESENTATIVE KING: Here. 20 MR. UNRUH: Representative Noriega? 21 REPRESENTATIVE NORIEGA: I'm here. 22 MR. UNRUH: Representative Talton? 23 REPRESENTATIVE TALTON: Here. 24 MR. UNRUH: Representative Wilson? 25 REPRESENTATIVE WILSON: Present. Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 5 1 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: There being four 2 present, one absent, a quorum is present. 3 The Chair will now recognize 4 Representative Phil King. 5 REPRESENTATIVE KING: Madam Chair, due to 6 the number of individuals who would wish to testify, I 7 would like to move that the subcommittee adopt the 8 following rule: All testimony should be limited to five 9 minutes in duration, and the Chairman of the 10 subcommittee shall notify the speaker of the expiration 11 of time. The Chairman may place additional time limits 12 on testimony and discussion during the hearing, and such 13 limitations may be altered by a vote of two-thirds of 14 the subcommittee members. 15 And Madam Chair, members, the intent is 16 to just try to help things move along so that as many 17 people as possible can testify before the day is over. 18 I would move adoption. 19 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Members, you have 20 heard the motion. Are there any objections? Hearing 21 none, it is so ordered. 22 (Gavel) 23 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Before we begin -- 24 before we begin, I want to inform the committee and 25 those in attendance that we do have a Spanish and Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 6 1 Vietnamese speaking interpreters that are present and 2 they are sitting over here on the right. 3 Would you please stand, ladies? 4 If anyone needs any assistance, they are 5 here to help us. If a member of the audience does need 6 a translator, I suggest that you sit near the translator 7 off to the side so that as she assists you to the 8 proceedings of the hearing, that she can be there to 9 help you. 10 A court reporter is also present and will 11 take down the testimony that is given. She is right 12 here in the front with us. In order to assist that we 13 have accurate transcription of what is said, please make 14 sure that only one person speaks at a time and clearly 15 identifies for the record who they are. 16 Anyone who wishes to testify before the 17 committee must completely fill out a Witness Affirmation 18 Form, which as we announced earlier are located in the 19 back of the room up on the top of the second level at 20 the table. Once you have filled it out completely, 21 please turn it in into the box for the assistant clerk. 22 We do encourage that you submit written testimony, but 23 would request that you adhere to the time limits and 24 submit your written testimony at the end. 25 We have a lot of people who are here to Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 7 1 testify, so what I would ask is the audience be 2 courteous to each and every witness. Applause and 3 outbursts will only take away from the time that a 4 witness has to testify, and we will run out of time. 5 Additionally, any loud noises will prevent the court 6 reporter and our audio system -- because we are 7 recording, for the record -- from taking any accurate 8 testimony. 9 For anyone who wishes to review the maps 10 that have been presented, there are two large maps that 11 are posted outside of the hearing room. They're 12 actually right here in the very front on the bottom if 13 you want to review a map. 14 It is the intent of the Chair to break 15 for lunch at 1:00 o'clock, and then we will return for 16 testimony at 3:00 is the plan. 17 Members, the purpose of this hearing is 18 to take public testimony on Congressional redistricting. 19 In accordance with legislative protocol, it is the 20 Chair's intent to begin with our elected officials and 21 would ask that they also confine their remarks to the 22 five-minute time limit so that we can have as many 23 individuals testify as possible. Due to the large 24 number of people here to testify, I'm going to ask that 25 a member of the committee who wishes to provide Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 8 1 testimony do so from the podium and reserve their time 2 on the dais to ask questions of those that are 3 testifying before the subcommittee. 4 REPRESENTATIVE NORIEGA: Madam Chair? 5 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Yes, Representative 6 Noriega. 7 REPRESENTATIVE NORIEGA: First, thank 8 you, Madam Chair, for allowing me to sit on the dais. 9 You just made a remark as it applies to translation for 10 Spanish language and Vietnamese; and given the 11 population of Harris County of 3.2 million and many of 12 those persons are of Hispanic descent, those that are 13 here that may need translation may not have understood 14 in English that the translator is over here. 15 (Laughter) 16 REPRESENTATIVE NORIEGA: And so -- 17 (Representative Noriega addressing the 18 audience in Spanish.) 19 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Right. And that 20 wasn't meant to be offensive. 21 Could you please translate in Vietnamese? 22 If you will come to the mike and let everyone know that 23 there is a translator available up at the mike. 24 (Ms. Huynh addressing the audience in 25 Vietnamese.) Hoffman Reporting & Video Service www.hoffmanreporting.com Redistricting Subcommittee Hearing in Houston Witness: - June 28, 2003 Page 9 1 CHAIRWOMAN MORRISON: Thank you. 2 Members, the first -- the Chair is now 3 going to recognize Representative Gene Green and ask if 4 he would like to testify. 5 REPRESENTATIVE GREEN: Good morning, and 6 welcome to Houston. I will not testify. I have a 7 written statement that includes both the current 8 Congressional lines and the latest proposed map that I'd 9 like to introduce and just briefly say, obviously, I 10 oppose the reopening of Congressional redistricting.