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Downloaded from Our Website, Thank You for Your Attention Formal Negotiations on a New Cayman Islands Constitution First Round Between The Cayman Islands Delegation - and - The United Kingdom Delegation Monday, 29 September 2008 – Thursday, 2 October 2008 Held at The Ritz-Carlton, Grand Cayman The United Kingdom's Delegation Mr. Ian Hendry - The Chairman Ms. Susan Dickson - Legal Counsellor, Foreign and Commonwealth Office Mr. Michael Bradley - Constitutional Adviser, FCO Overseas Territories Directorate Ms. Helen Nellthorp - Deputy Head, FCO Overseas Territories Directorate Ms. Sarah Latham - Desk Officer, Cayman Islands FCO Overseas Territories The Cayman Islands Delegation His Excellency the Governor Mr. Stuart Jack Hon. Samuel Bulgin, QC, Attorney General and a National Negotiating Team comprising representatives of: The Elected Government Hon. D. Kurt Tibbetts, JP - Honourable Leader of Government Business, Minister of District Administration, Planning, Agriculture & Housing Hon. Alden M. McLaughlin, Jr. JP – Minister of Education, Training, Employment, Youth, Sports & Culture Hon. Anthony S. Eden, OBE, JP - Minister of Health & Human Services Hon. Charles E. Clifford, JP - Minister of Tourism, Environment, Development & Commerce Hon. V. Arden McLean, JP - Minister of Communications, Works & Infrastructure The Government Backbench Ms. Lucille D. Seymour, BEM Mr. W. Alfonso Wright Mr. Osbourne V. Bodden Mr. Moses I. Kirkconnell, JP The Official Opposition Hon. W. McKeeva Bush, OBE, JP, Honourable Leader of the Opposition Mr. Rolston M. Anglin Mr. Cline A. Glidden, Jr. Capt. A. Eugene Ebanks, JP Ms. Juliana Y. O’Connor-Connolly, JP The Cayman Ministers’ Association - Pastor Al Ebanks The Cayman Islands Conference of Seventh Day Adventists - Pastor Shian O’Connor The Chamber of Commerce Mr. Will Pineau – CEO Chamber of Commerce Mr. Eddie Thompson, President Elect Mr. Stuart Bostock, Vice President The Human Rights Committee Ms. Melanie McLaughlin, Chairperson HRC Constitutional Working Group Mrs. Sara Collins, Partner and Head of Specialist Trust Disputes Group 29 September 2008 CONSTITUTIONAL TALKS i TABLE OF CONTENTS WELCOME BY HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR............1 PRAYER............................................................................1 PASTOR AL EBANKS ............................................................................................... 1 OPENING STATEMENTS....................................................2 THE CHAIRMAN (MR. IAN HENDRY, FCO DELEGATION): ........................ 2 HON. D. KURT TIBBETTS, JP............................................................................... 5 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 10 PASTOR AL EBANKS ............................................................................................. 18 PASTOR SHIAN O'CONNOR ................................................................................ 23 MR. WILL PINEAU................................................................................................... 26 MS. MELANIE MCLAUGHLIN.............................................................................. 31 PROPOSAL NUMBER 2 ....................................................54 PASTOR AL EBANKS ............................................................................................. 56 HON. D. KURT TIBBETTS, JP............................................................................. 59 MS. JULIANNA Y. O'CONNOR-CONNOLLY, JP............................................. 60 THE CHAIRMAN ...................................................................................................... 61 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 62 PROFESSOR JEFFREY JOWELL, QC .............................................................. 62 PROPOSAL NUMBER 5 ....................................................64 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 65 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 65 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 66 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 66 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 67 MR. CLINE A. GLIDDEN, JR., JP....................................................................... 70 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 70 HON. V. ARDEN MCLEAN, JP ............................................................................ 73 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 75 MS. JULIANNA Y. O'CONNOR-CONNOLLY, JP............................................. 77 HON. D. KURT TIBBETTS, JP............................................................................. 78 HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR, MR. STUART M. JACK................. 79 MR. CLINE A. GLIDDEN, JR., JP....................................................................... 79 MS. JULIANNA Y. O'CONNOR-CONNOLLY, JP............................................. 80 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 81 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 86 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 86 29 September 2008 CONSTITUTIONAL TALKS ii HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 86 HON. CHARLES E. CLIFFORD, JP.................................................................... 88 MR. CLINE A. GLIDDEN, JR., JP....................................................................... 89 MR. WILL PINEAU................................................................................................... 91 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 93 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP........................................................................... 96 HON. ALDEN M. MCLAUGHLIN, JR., JP ........................................................ 98 HON. W. MCKEEVA BUSH, JP......................................................................... 100 MR. ROLSTON M. ANGLIN................................................................................. 101 MR. CLINE A. GLIDDEN, JR., JP..................................................................... 105 HON. D. KURT TIBBETTS, JP........................................................................... 107 PROFESSOR JEFFREY JOWELL, QC ............................................................ 110 29 September 2008 CONSTITUTIONAL TALKS 1 MONDAY, 29 SEPTEMBER, 2008 2008 CONSTITUTIONAL NEGOTIATIONS HELD BETWEEN CAYMAN ISLANDS DELEGATION AND THE FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH OFFICE WELCOME BY HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR HIS EXCELLENCY THE GOVERNOR MR. STUART JACK: I would like to welcome everyone to this, the opening session of the constitutional talks. A welcome to the delegation from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, to the Cayman delegation, to the representatives of the media and to other observers. Clearly, the Constitution is a document of vital importance for the welfare of the people of these Islands and for the smooth running of the relationship between the Cayman Islands and the United Kingdom. These are therefore very important talks. Before handing over to the two delegations, I should like to ask Pastor Al to say a prayer. PRAYER PASTOR AL EBANKS (CHAIRMAN OF CAYMAN MINISTERS' ASSOCIATION): Shall we pray? Almighty God, it is our distinct honour to call upon Your name on an occasion such as this. We thank You for Your presence with us that these meetings have already been under guarded by prayer by the peoples of these Islands. We ask Your blessings on all of the discussions that will take place other the next four days. We ask for peace and harmony among ourselves. We pray that we would debate vigorously but with dignity, and 29 September 2008 CONSTITUTIONAL TALKS 2 honour, and we pray that in all that is done, Your name would be glorified and that as a community that we would reflect the Christian character and nature that we are so distinctly proud of. So, we ask Your blessings on all of these activities, in the name of Your Son Jesus Christ. Amen. OPENING STATEMENTS THE CHAIRMAN (MR. IAN HENDRY, FCO DELEGATION): I would like to thank the Governor for introducing us and welcoming us to the Cayman Islands. First of all, I should like to say what a pleasure it is to be back in the beautiful Cayman Islands, and to see so many old friends again. It is a particular pleasure and a privilege to be here on this occasion, to resume the constitutional review discussions that it made much progress in 2002, but stalled in 2003/2004. Much water has passed under the bridge since then, and I should like to pay tribute to the careful and considered way in which the Cayman Islands Government has pursued the process here on the Islands. As a result of the information campaigned and public consultations that have taken place, as well as the work done in 2002, I believe we have a sound basis for the work we shall do this week and in any future rounds of discussion. I should next like to introduce my colleagues from the UK Government team. I am fortunate to be advised by: Susan Dickson, a legal counsellor at the Foreign and Commonwealth
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