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Los Angeles Benge Instrument Survey - up to #19999 Bell: Bell Bore: Size Date of Model 1st Valve M, S Serial Pitch Finish Source most Marking Saddle/ Alterations Anecdotal ML, (4 5/8") Number recent Location: Trigger? Comments MLP or L info ferrule, Y or N or L (4 3/4") bell & or none Model Made especially for Benge shop foreman Lou Duda as a retirement present. The bell is engraved with the dates he started and finished working for Benge: Number Barbara To Lou Duda Pocket ML Silver 2/28/21 Y One Duda From Benge Employees 5-15-54 To 1-1-80 I'm not sure where to put this one. I've Not an alteration, but the valves seen pictures of the serial number and it is are stamped "1, 2, 3 & 4." clearly stamped. Los Angeles is stamped Brandon The serial number is not stamped on the bell. My guess is that it was a 01958 Piccolo ML Silver 8/27/08 None N Beck on the valves. It is the only piccolo special order, with a special serial number. so far that does not have a number Purchased from Charles Reskin, who stamped on the bell. purchased it used in the early 1980s. I welcome input. Purchased used in 1995 per the advice of his teacher, Ralph Nadar. Michael 8384 Bb L Lacquer 12/16/10 6X Y Los Angeles is stamped on the bell. Lee The earliest LA 6X so far, and the earliest LA Benge to surface.. 8390 Bb L Lacquer Craigslist 8/17/16 6X Jack Original owner; purchased in 1970 or 1971. 8399 Bb L Silver 10/30/09 6X None Y Weaver Los Angeles is stamped on the bell. Original owner, purchased in 1972 from H. Michael Ferrule 8406 Bb ML Silver 9/7/14 5X Y Hoffman Music in Thibodaux, LA. Beasley (5) The earliest LA 5X so far. Joe Ferrule 3rd slide stop rod removed by Purchased from Brent Lollis in November 8408 Bb ML Brass 12/2/20 3X Y Triscari (3) a previous owner. 2020. The earliest LA 3X so far. Purchased used @1989 from a dealer Kevin Ferrule 8417 Bb MLP Silver 7/31/12 3X+ in Heber Springs, Arkansas. Saunders (3) The earliest LA 3X+ so far. Jon Ferrule Purchased by his late father, 8421 Bb MLP Lacquer 8/5/14 3X+ Y Mannino (3) Marco Mannino Purchased from David Bradford, who Michael Ferrule purchased it through Ebay from the original 8425 Bb MLP Silver 3/16/11 3X+ Y McGovern (3) owner, who purchased it from Victor's House of Music in Ridgewood, NJ in 1972. Purchased in 2013 from Dan Oberloh, S Seattle, WA. The case has a label from Thomas Ferrule 8427 Bb MLP Silver 12/3/17 4 5/8" Y None Hoffman Music in Thibodaux, LA, which Allen (3) 3X+ could have been where the horn was originally sold. Joe S Bell replaced with a Burbank 8447 Bb ML Silver 1/13/06 Y Summerhill 4 5/8" (with street address). Purchased 5/06 from the original owner, Dan S Ferrule Bell repaired and 8448 Bb ML Lacquer 7/23/06 Y Dave Hackbarth, who purchased it Rugg 3X (3) relacquered in 1974. between 9/71 and early '72. Rick Ferrule Purchased from Don Mauger 8477 Bb ML Lacquer 3/27/13 3X Berry (3) through Ebay. Ebay 8493 Bb MLP Silver 11/19/10 Y Auction Mike Ferrule Original bell likely replaced L stamped above the serial number. 8507 Bb L Silver 5/16/20 Y Ackerman (3) with a 3X bell. Formerly owned by Steve Fleck. In addition to the 3rd slide ring Chuck S Ferrule 8514 Bb ML Silver 7/3/06 Y there is a post for a lyre attached No street address on bell. Kleeberg 2X (2) to the 3rd slide. Patrick Source: Jim Donaldson's 8516 Bb ML 9/18/06 5X Olguin Benge Data Base Brian Source: Jim Donaldson's 8525 9/18/06 Sundnas Benge Data Base S Jeff Ferrule Purchased new in Los Angeles in 1972. 8531 Bb ML Silver 1/10/11 4 5/8" Y None Lemucchi (5) Picked out with his teacher, Louie Spevacek. 5X S Basil Ferrule Formerly owned by Chuck Kleeberg. 8535 Bb ML Lacquer 4/24/18 4 5/8" Y Relacquered along the way. Rodriguez (3) Purchased through Ebay in April 2018. 3X www.musicbyjoelill.com/benge Revised 9/21/21 at 8:36 AM Page 1 of 32 Joe Lill: 773-612-3449; [email protected] Los Angeles Benge Instrument Survey - up to #19999 Bell: Bell Bore: Size Date of Model 1st Valve M, S Serial Pitch Finish Source most Marking Saddle/ Alterations Anecdotal ML, (4 5/8") Number recent Location: Trigger? Comments MLP or L info ferrule, Y or N or L (4 3/4") bell & or none Model J.R. Purchased in the 1970s in 8553 Bb 1/7/07 Hughes Washington DC for @$300.00 Purchased from Nevin Haines in late 2008. Jeff Ferrule 8560 Bb ML Lacquer 1/20/09 3X Y The C stamped on the ferrule looks to be Martin (3) the result of misstamping of a 3. S Russ 8568 Bb ML Silver 9/23/06 4 5/8" Y Purchased from Dillon Music. DiGate 5X Ebay 8612 3/3/07 Purchased new in 1973. Auction Played all over the world: London Cecil L Sym., Chicago Sym., Tokyo Phil., 8614 Bb MLP Silver 11/14/06 Y Welch 3X+ Hollywood Bowl. It has beads on the tubes like a Chicago Benge! Pete Ferrule 8634 Bb ML Silver 5/4/19 5X Y Acquired in 2019. Newland (5) Originally silver plated; bell was Acquired in the early 1970s from Tom 8655 D ML Silver 4/17/10 S Y raw brass when acquired. Totally Dave Greeno (former principal trumpet, Timmons replated in 2005. San Diego Symphony) Original gold 2X bell replaced Alan 8665 Bb MLP Gold 3/14/21 (2X+) Y by Kanstul with an original Benge Purchased in 2007 from Dillon Music. Satchwell 3 bell that Zig had in the attic. Ebay Ferrule 8666 Bb ML Silver 10/16/08 3X Y Auction (3) Brent Ferrule Purchased in October 2020 through 8676 Bb MLP Silver 10/18/20 3X+ Y Lollis (3) shopgoodwill.com. Mark 4 5/8" Ferrule 8696 Bb ML Silver 3/2/14 Y Purchased in Glendale, CA. LaSavio 3X (3) Full restoration by Rich Ita; double- Joel Ferrule 8702 Bb ML Silver 11/18/12 3X Y silver plated. Leadpipe replaced Traded a Bach for this horn in 1984. Swanson (3) with a Pilczuk C408X. Chip G. Ferrule The horn has been overhauled 8707 Bb ML Lacquer 5/10/11 3X Y Younkin (3) and relacquered once. Acquired in October 2020. No marking on Dan the ferrule. An interesting horn, in that 8718 Bb L 3/23/21 6X None Y Bassin it's a large bore (.468, measured by Osmun Music) but the piston ports are ML. Ebay 8721 Bb MLP Silver 6/19/10 3X+ Y Auction Ken Source: Jim Donaldson's 8727 Bb MLP 9/18/06 3X+ Ward Benge Data Base Benny Ferrule Original owner; purchased new in 1971/72 8748 Bb ML 3/17/16 3X Ferguson (3) from Pecknel Music in Columbia, SC. Horn was purchased in 2012 through Michael Ferrule 8749 Bb ML Silver 4/3/12 3X Y None Craigslist along with the original Gladstone Doyle (3) case, both from the original owner. Ebay 8761 Bb MLP Silver 11/16/06 Y Auction Neal Source: Jim Donaldson's 8764 Bb MLP 9/18/06 3X+ Smith Benge Data Base Mike Ferrule Purchaased used in the summer of 1981 8765 Bb MLP Silver 10/17/14 3X+ Y Daniels (3) from Greg Patchin, in Platteville, WI. Bernie 2nd owner; purchased in 1973/74 from 8766 Bb MLP 3/22/18 3X+ Wire a music store on Oklahoma City. Edward Purchased at a pawnshop in Ft. Worth, TX 8774 Bb ML 10/9/11 Lang in October 2011. Centex Ferrule 8798 Bb ML Silver 1/7/17 5X Y Brass (5) Purchased new in December 1972 Alan L. 8803 Bb 9/16/06 from Kimbrell Music in Wise Greeley, CO, for @$500.00 Purchased new by his parents (for his late Eddie 8806 Bb ML Silver 2/4/21 5X Y brother) in Denver, likely from Walz Flescher-Hinton Music. www.musicbyjoelill.com/benge Revised 9/21/21 at 8:36 AM Page 2 of 32 Joe Lill: 773-612-3449; [email protected] Los Angeles Benge Instrument Survey - up to #19999 Bell: Bell Bore: Size Date of Model 1st Valve M, S Serial Pitch Finish Source most Marking Saddle/ Alterations Anecdotal ML, (4 5/8") Number recent Location: Trigger? Comments MLP or L info ferrule, Y or N or L (4 3/4") bell & or none Model S Complete restoration at Rick Ferrule Purchased through Ebay 8820 Bb ML Silver 11/26/07 4 5/8" Y Kanstul's @2002; new leadpipe Rockey (2) between 2000-2002. 2X added & horn was replated. Purchased from Giardinelli's in Kurt February 1972; sold in 1986. List 8826 Bb MLP Silver 3/1/08 3X+ Nystrom price was $572.50; with the 40% discount the price was $343.50. Purchased used in 2015. A much heavier Tony Ferrule horn than any other MLP he's played 8827 Bb MLP 7/27/15 3X+ Fisher (3) or owned. (Tony played #5407 on Sgt. Pepper & many James Bond films.) Michael 8836 Bb ML 9/26/08 3X McGovern Ferrule 8837 Bb ML Brass Anonymous 9/4/19 3X Y (3) Originally lacquered.