Legislative Assembly of Alberta the 28Th Legislature First Session Standing Committee on Alberta's Economic Future
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Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 28th Legislature First Session Standing Committee on Alberta’s Economic Future Ministry of International and Intergovernmental Relations Consideration of Main Estimates Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8 a.m. Transcript No. 28-1-13 Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 28th Legislature First Session Standing Committee on Alberta’s Economic Future Amery, Moe, Calgary-East (PC), Chair Fox, Rodney M., Lacombe-Ponoka (W), Deputy Chair Bhardwaj, Naresh, Edmonton-Ellerslie (PC) Cao, Wayne, Calgary-Fort, (PC) Donovan, Ian, Little Bow (W) Dorward, David C., Edmonton-Gold Bar (PC) Eggen, David, Edmonton-Calder (ND) Hehr, Kent, Calgary-Buffalo (AL) Luan, Jason, Calgary-Hawkwood (PC) McDonald, Everett, Grande Prairie-Smoky (PC) Olesen, Cathy, Sherwood Park (PC) Pastoor, Bridget Brennan, Lethbridge-East (PC) Quadri, Sohail, Edmonton-Mill Woods (PC) Rogers, George, Leduc-Beaumont (PC) Rowe, Bruce, Olds-Didsbury-Three Hills (W) Sarich, Janice, Edmonton-Decore (PC) Smith, Danielle, Highwood (W)* Strankman, Rick, Drumheller-Stettler (W) Xiao, David H., Edmonton-McClung (PC) * substitution for Bruce Rowe Support Staff W.J. David McNeil Clerk Robert H. Reynolds, QC Law Clerk/Director of Interparliamentary Relations Shannon Dean Senior Parliamentary Counsel/ Director of House Services Philip Massolin Manager of Research Services Stephanie LeBlanc Legal Research Officer Sarah Leonard Legal Research Officer Nancy Zhang Legislative Research Officer Nancy Robert Research Officer Corinne Dacyshyn Committee Clerk Jody Rempel Committee Clerk Karen Sawchuk Committee Clerk Christopher Tyrell Committee Clerk Rhonda Sorensen Manager of Corporate Communications and Broadcast Services Jeanette Dotimas Communications Consultant Tracey Sales Communications Consultant Liz Sim Managing Editor of Alberta Hansard Transcript produced by Alberta Hansard Standing Committee on Alberta’s Economic Future Participants Ministry of International and Intergovernmental Relations Hon. Cal Dallas, Minister Hon. Teresa Woo-Paw, Associate Minister April 17, 2013 Alberta’s Economic Future EF-169 8 a.m. Wednesday, April 17, 2013 Mr. Eggen: Good morning. I’m David Eggen, MLA for Title: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 ef Edmonton-Calder. [Mr. Amery in the chair] Mr. Cao: Wayne Cao, Calgary-Fort. Welcome. Ministry of International and Intergovernmental Relations Mrs. Sawchuk: Karen Sawchuk, committee clerk Consideration of Main Estimates Mr. Fox: Rod Fox, MLA for Lacombe-Ponoka and vice-chair. The Chair: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. It’s 8 a.m., and we must begin. I would like to call this meeting to order. Also, I The Chair: Thank you very much. would like to welcome everyone in attendance here this morning. Hon. members, as you know, the Assembly approved amend- The committee has under consideration the estimates of the ments to the standing orders that impact consideration of the main Ministry of International and Intergovernmental Relations for the estimates. Before we proceed with consideration of the main fiscal year ending March 31, 2014. Just a friendly reminder again estimates for the Ministry of International and Intergovernmental that the microphones are operated by Hansard, and I would ask Relations, I would like to review briefly the standing orders members not to operate their own consoles as it causes technical governing the speaking rotation. issues. Also, please do not leave your iPhones, BlackBerrys on the As provided for in Standing Order 59.01(6), the rotation is as table. follows. The minister or the member of the Executive Council Now, I would like us to go around and introduce ourselves, and acting on the minister’s behalf may make opening comments not I’d also ask the minister to introduce his staff. I’m Moe Amery, to exceed seven minutes for a two-hour-long meeting. For the 40 MLA, Calgary-East, and the chair of this committee. minutes that follow, members of the Official Opposition and the minister or the member of the Executive Council acting on the Mr. Xiao: David Xiao, MLA for Edmonton-McClung. minister’s behalf may speak. For the next 14 minutes the members Mr. Quadri: Sohail Quadri, Edmonton-Mill Woods. of the third party, if any, and the minister or the member of the Executive Council acting on the minister’s behalf may speak. For Mr. Bhardwaj: Naresh Bhardwaj, Edmonton-Ellerslie. the next 14 minutes the member of the fourth party, if any, and the minister or the member of the Executive Council acting on the Mrs. Sarich: Good morning. Janice Sarich, MLA for Edmonton- minister’s behalf may speak. For the next 14 minutes private Decore. members of the government caucus and the minister or the member of the Executive Council acting on the minister’s behalf Ms Pastoor: Bridget Pastoor, Lethbridge-East. may speak. Any member may speak thereafter. Mr. Luan: Good morning. Jason Luan, Calgary-Hawkwood. Members may speak more than once, with speaking time divided equally between the member and the minister. A minister Mr. Dorward: David Dorward, Edmonton-Gold Bar. and a member may combine their time for a total of 14 minutes. Members are asked to advise the chair at the beginning of their Ms Woo-Paw: Good morning. Teresa Woo-Paw, Calgary- speech if they plan to combine their time with the minister’s time. Northern Hills and Associate Minister of International and Once the specified rotation between caucuses is complete and Intergovernmental Relations. we move to the portion of the meeting where any member may speak, the speaking times are reduced to five minutes at any one Mr. Dallas: Good morning. Cal Dallas, Red Deer-South and time. Once again, a minister and a member may combine their Minister of International and Intergovernmental Relations. speaking time for a maximum total of 10 minutes. Members are With me today, in addition to Associate Minister Woo-Paw, I asked to advise the chair at the beginning of their speech if they have Lorne Harvey, who is the acting deputy minister; Jason wish to combine their time with the minister’s time, and the Krips, who is the assistant deputy minister for international minister must consent. relations; Garry Pocock, who is the assistant deputy minister for Two hours have been scheduled to consider the estimates of this intergovernmental relations; and Howard Wong, who is the acting ministry, the Ministry of International and Intergovernmental assistant deputy minister, corporate services. We have a number of Relations. others here: Jeff Henwood, my chief of staff; Patrick Naud, who’s Committee members, ministers, and other members who are not the assistant to Associate Minister Woo-Paw; Mark Cooper, press committee members may participate. Members’ staff and ministry secretary; and Evan Romanow, who is in the deputy minister’s officials may be present, and at the direction of the minister office as well. officials from the ministry may address the committee. The Chair: Thank you, Minister. As noted in the Speaker’s memorandum of March 22, I would like to remind all members that during main estimates consideration Mr. Strankman: Drumheller-Stettler, Rick Strankman. members have seating priority at all times. Should members arrive at a meeting and there are no seats available at the table, any staff Ms Smith: Danielle Smith, Highwood. seated at the table must relinquish their seat to the member. If debate is exhausted prior to the two hours, the ministry’s The Chair: Are you substituting? estimates are deemed to have been considered for the time allotted Ms Smith: I’m substituting for Bruce Rowe. in the schedule, and we will adjourn; otherwise, we will adjourn at 10 p.m. Sorry; 10 a.m. That was going to be a long meeting. The Chair: Okay. Thanks. Points of order will be dealt with as they arise, and the clock will continue to run. Mr. Donovan: Ian Donovan, Little Bow. Any written material provided in response to questions raised during the main estimates should be tabled in the Assembly for the Ms Olesen: Cathy Olesen, Sherwood Park. benefit of all members. EF-170 Alberta’s Economic Future April 17, 2013 Vote on the estimates is deferred until consideration of all 8:10 ministry estimates has concluded and will occur in Committee of One thing is certain. We will require additional resources if Supply on April 22, 2013. we’re going to do this right. Although my ministry is asking for $5 I will address the rules and regulations concerning any amend- million in new funding, I would note that we have made ments. An amendment to the estimates cannot seek to increase the reductions of $3.7 million, resulting in a net increase of $1.3 amount of the estimates being considered, change the destination million for 2013-14. I will outline the reductions for you in a of a grant, or change the destination or purpose of a subsidy. An moment. amendment may be proposed to reduce an estimate, but the In this budget my ministry is asking for 17 full-time positions to amendment cannot propose to reduce the estimate by its full deliver its market access mandate. We will use resources in the amount. following ways: $4 million for international relations and our Vote on amendments is deferred until Committee of Supply on international offices. This includes nine full-time positions to April 22, 2013. establish an improved Alberta presence in Asia, the United States, Written amendments must be reviewed by Parliamentary and Europe; we’ll establish an international policy branch to work Counsel prior to the meeting at which they are to be moved. with other government of Alberta departments; third, we’ll move Twenty-five copies of amendments must be provided at the forward with programs such as the Alberta abroad externship meeting for committee members and staff. program; finally, to streamline and co-ordinate ministerial and Now I would like to invite the minister to begin his remarks.