August 2, 1982 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS 18917 EXTENSION OF REMARKS NAIVETE CAN KILL YOU "The Russian leaders," he began, "have start, they have to win at any price, includ­ had such success in their campaign to ing a nuclear price. We mustn't let them weaken us, not only because we are naive smell an easy victory. They must always see HON. LARRY McDONALD and irresolute, but also because they have a very dangerous adversary." OF GEORGIA held their positions for so long and have "It's sometimes observed that if you seize IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES learned the game exceedingly well. Gromy­ a wasp, the wasp will infallibly sting you, ko has held his post since 1957. Admiral even though it dies," I said. "So nobody Monday, August 2, 1982 Gorshkov, who created the modem Soviet bothers wasps." e Mr. McDONALD. Mr. Speaker, navy, since 1956 ... a great naval strategist, "Exactement," the general said. John Train of Forbes magazine, inter­ incidentally. The only figure of comparable But wouldn't any nuclear war in Europe viewed Gen. Pierre Gallois of France stature on our side has been Admiral Rick­ devastate everything there, and thus recently on the movement for a nucle­ over. By the time our leaders learn what has remove Russia's interest in taking over to be done, get it through a hundred com­ Europe? ar freeze. General Gallois is consid­ mittees, sell it to the public-if they can sell ered by many to be the leading mili­ "You are behind the times, Monsieur." it-and raise the money, it's usually too late. The general exhibited a graph showing the tary strategist of France. In the inter­ The Soviets do most things badly, but they evolution of nuclear yields required to de­ view, which appeared in the July 5, conceive and execute foreign policy much stroy a specific objective over the last 20 1982 issue of Forbes, General Gallois more effectively than we do. There have years. points out the naivete of those who been 5 top men in the U.S.S.R. since World War II, compared with 8 U.S. presidents and "One kiloton will soon serve where once feel that a nuclear freeze will bring 30 governments in France. They have an im­ five megatons were required, because of the peace. The interview follows for the mense advantage in continuity of purpose much greater accuracy of today's missiles." edification of those who think there is and method. "Even should we achieve nu­ He produced a map of Europe's airports, en­ an easy way of confronting Soviet ag­ will circled by shadows showing the blast radius merical parity in Euromissiles, we not of a pinpointed missile. "As you see, the gression. have equality. Our missiles must be de­ The article follows: ployed in heavily populated Western Russians could eliminate almost any airport Europe; theirs can be in relatively empty in Europe without hitting the city it serves. NAIVETE CAN KILL You Now, thanks to high-precision missiles, you country. So our posture is much more dan­ <By John Train> gerous. That has triggered the current Eu­ will be able to immobilize a country without <It's a lot easier to mount an antinuclear ropean wave of pacifism and neutralism. destroying it. Look at this." demonstration in New York than in The Soviets may offer a 50% cutback in He produced more charts. "The U.S.S.R., Moscow. Such demonstrations probably their SS-20s in exchange for no Pershing II using its SS-20s and other weapons, could evoke glee rather than awe in the Kremlin. or cruise missiles. That would delight the destroy NATO's power without attacking For a hardheaded if admittedly partisan pacifists. But SS-20s have three warheads U.S. conventional units. Do you think that view on nuclear disarmament. Forbes Col­ per missile. Even after a cut the Soviets if the Soviets did that, a U.S. President umnist John Train recently interviewed would have several hundred, enough to de­ would order national hara-kiri by launching General Pierre Gallois, the father of stroy every important conventional target in a nuclear attack directly against Russia France's force de frappe. General Gallois Western Europe. If for any reason Western itself? Never!" has devastating comments for those who ad­ Europe turns down the Pershings and the So President Reagan was right in admit­ vocate unilateral nuclear disarmament.> cruise missiles, then there's no significant ting the possibilty of a nuclear war confined Pierre Gallois ranks as one of the most European deterrent, and it's game, set and to Europe, whatever the unwisdom of talk­ original strategic thinkers of modem match to the Russians. ing about it? France, perhaps comparable to de Gaulle in "It's like the Falklands. Had the British "Of course. Such a surprise surgical strike the 1930s. An airman, he flew in bombers stationed a battalion there, instead of a is infinitely more likely than the conven­ from England in World War II and after the company, showing that they really meant tional war NATO contemplates. Look at war joined the general staff of the French business, the Argentines would have kept this." He produced a map showing the heav­ air force. General Gallois urged upon Presi­ hands off. Think how much better off ev­ ily industrialized areas of Germany, follow­ dent Charles de Gaulle a deterrent force in­ erybody would be-not only the British and ing the Rhine from the North Sea to Swit­ dependent of the U.S. nuclear umbrella, the Argentines, but particularly the U.S., zerland. "There isn't any more 'north which, he held, could not be depended on which will be the real loser. It's much German plain.' It's become towns and facto­ after the Soviets had achieved their own harder to fight your way back than to deter ries, difficult country for tanks." <I had intercontinental nuclear force. trouble in the first place. heard the same at U.S. Army headquarters A country, Gallois argued, would risk its "The real solution, could it be achieved, and from U.S. field commanders.) "Starting own total destruction only to protect itself, would be for Europe to have its own subma­ out with an old-fashioned war, a war of at­ not to protect another country. So France's rine-borne nuclear deterrent. That would trition, is the last strategy the Soviets would defense must be under French control. Thus answer a lot of objections." comtemplate, even though that's what arose the force de frappe, the independent Did General Gallois think that the cur­ NATO is prepared for. It would give NATO French nuclear deterrent. In a crisis, France rent buildup in NATO's conventional time to mobilize and allow the U.S. to rein­ may be the only continental power able to strength would suffice to deter the Soviets? force its troops in Europe. No, they'll go for resist Russian nuclear blackmail. Indeed, "Not in the least." He produced a collec­ the precise disabling blow, and then defy one of his key strategic ideas, shared at the tion of charts. "The U.S. is asking for a 3% the world to do anything about it." time with General Eisenhower, is that the annual buildup in real terms. NATO has What does General Gallois think actually surest defense against Russian attack is the some 25 divisions in Central Europe. So that will happen? assurance of nuclear retaliation, under such would mean 26, then 27, then 28. But the "There are a number of reasonable sce­ circumstances, an exact nuclear balance Warsaw Pact can field up to 180 divisions. narios. The first is the neutralization of loses its importance, just as a big man with What's more, you mustn't Just compare Germany. The U.S.S.R. expects to control a pair of six-guns cannot ipso facto push those two force levels or whatever force in Africa and elsewhere, more and more of around a small man with one six-gun. Now level you prefer to use for the Pact. Many of the raw materials that Germany requires. retired from the French air force, General NATO's divisions are on the flanks, in One day they can call in the German lead­ Gallois serves as a consultant to a major Turkey, Norway, and so on. But if the Rus­ ers and say, 'In the last war you killed 20 French aircraft company and writes on mili­ sians concentrate on the central front, ig­ million of our people. Now it's our tum. If tary-political strategy. noring the Scandinavians and Southern Eu­ you move a muscle, you'll be atomized. But I called on the general in his apartment ropeans-who aren't going to march into if you accept our offer, you can have reuni­ near the Pare Monceau in Paris. A stocky Russia-their superiority will be overwhelm­ fication with East Germany, possibly even man with a round head and keen features, ing. under Bonn's aegis in some form. We'll pro­ the general spoke in French with dry preci­ "A cardinal point of Soviet strategy is that vide the raw materials you need and the sion. the Red Army must always win. Once they market for your finished products. But e This "bullet" symbol identifies statements or insertions which are not spoken by the Member on the floor. 18918 EXTENSIONS OF REMARKS August 2, 1982 there's one condition: The U.S. must leave sters and Roy Williams, let me provide to come after them.