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Third Session- Thirty-Seventh Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba Standing Committee on Private Bills Chairperson Ms. Nancy Allan Constituency of St. Vital Vol. LII No. 1 - 7 p.m., Thursday, August 8, 2002 ISSN 0713-9543 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Seventh Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. ASPER, Linda Riel N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky, Hon. Inkster N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew, Hon. Brandon East N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUAY, Louise Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FRIESEN, Jean, Hon. Wolseley N.D.P. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold Minnedosa P.C. HA WRANIK, Gerald Lac du Bonnet P.C. HEL WER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. - LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOW A Y, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn, Hon. Minto N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. MURRAY, Stuart Kirkfield Park P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PENNER, Jim Steinbach P.C. PITURA, Frank Morris P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack Southdale P.C. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Carman P.C. RONDEAU, Jim Assiniboia N.D.P. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Rossmere N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. SMITH, Joy Fort Garry P.C. SMITH, Scott, Hon. Brandon West N.D.P. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. - TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 1 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE BILLS Thursday, August 8, 2002 TIME-7p.m. Mr. Ray Taylor, The Salvation Army William and Catherine Booth College LOCATION- Winnipeg, Manitoba Bill 304-The Winnipeg Real Estate Board CHAIRPERSON - Ms. Nancy Allan (St. Incorporation Amendment Act Vital) Mr. Jake Harms, Deputy Law Officer of the VICE-CHAIRPERSON- Mr. Jim Rondeau House (Assiniboia) MATTERS UNDER CONSIDERATION: ATTENDANCE-11 -QUORUM- 6 Bill 301-The Assiniboine Memorial Curling Members of the Committee present: Club Holding Company Limited Additional Mses. Allan, Asper, Messrs. Helwer, Powers Act Maguire, Maloway, Martindale, Penner Bill 302-The Congregation Etz Chayim (Emerson), Reimer, Rondeau, Schellenberg, Amalgamation Act Struthers. Bill 303-The Salvation Army William and APPEARING Catherine Booth College Incorporation Amendment Act Hon. Gord Mackintosh, Minister of Justice and Attorney General Bill 304-The Winnipeg Real Estate Board Incorporation Amendment Act WITNESSES: Bill 301-The Assiniboine Memorial Curling *** Club Holding Company Limited Additional Powers Act Mr. Clerk Assistant (Rick Yarish): Good evening. Will the Standing Committee on Mr. John Callum, Assiniboine Memorial Private Bills please come to order? Our first Curling Club order of business is the election of a Chair Mr. Jake Harms, Deputy Law Officer of the person. Are there nominations? House Mr. Stan Struthers (Dauphin-Roblin): I would Bill 302-The Congregation Etz Chayim like to propose that Ms. Nancy Allan take the Amalgamation Act Chair. Mr. Jack London, Congregation Etz Chayim Mr. Jake Harms, Deputy Law Officer of the Mr. Clerk Assistant: Ms. Allan has been House nominated. Are there further nominations? Seeing none, Ms. Allan is appointed Bill 303-The Salvation Army William and Chairperson. Would you please take the Chair. Catherine Booth College Incorporation Amendment Act Madam Chairperson: Our next order of Mr. Jake Harms, Deputy Law Officer of the business is the election of a Vice-Chairperson. House Are there any nominations? 2 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA August 8, 2002 Mr. Struthers: Madam Chair, I would nominate Mr. Struthers: I would suggest 15-minute Mr. Rondeau. presentations, 5-minute question and answer, just like we have been doing all along. Madam Chairperson: Thank you. Jim Rondeau has been nominated. Are there any further Madam Chairperson: Is there agreement? nominations? Seeing none, Jim Rondeau is [Agreed] appointed Vice-Chairperson. As a courtesy to presenters, are there any suggestions as to how late the committee should This meeting has been called to consider the sit this evening? following bills: Bill 301, The Assiniboine Memorial Curling Club Holding Company Mr. Jim Rondeau (Assiniboia): Until the Limited Additional Powers Act; Bill 302, The committee business is finished. Congregation Etz Chayim Amalgamation Act; Bill 303, The Salvation Army William and Madam Chairperson: Agreement? [Agreed] Catherine Booth College Incorporation Amend What order would you like to have the bills ment Act and Bill 304, The Winnipeg Real presented? Estate Board Incorporation Amendment Act. Mr. Doug Martindale (Burrows): Madam We do have presenters registered to speak to Chairperson, I would like to ask for Bill 303 to these bills. On Bill 301, we have John Callum be called first to accommodate one of the from the Assiniboine Memorial Curling Club. presenters and then the other bills as listed on the On Bill 303, we have Ray Taylor with The Order Paper. Salvation Army William and Catherine Booth College. Is there anyone else in attendance today Madam Chairperson: So we will have Bill who wishes to make a presentation to the 303, then Bills 301, 302 and 304. Is there - committee on these bills? Please register with agreement? [Agreed] the attendant at the back of the room. Bill 303-The Salvation Army William and For the information of presenters, 20 copies Catherine Booth College of any written versions of presentations would Incorporation Amendment Act be appreciated. If you require assistance with photocopying, please see the attendant at the Madam Chairperson: I will now call on Ray back of the room. Taylor to make his presentation. Do you have written copies for distribution to committee How does the committee propose to deal members? with presenters who are not in attendance today, but have their names called? Shall they be Mr. Ray Taylor (The Salvation Army William dropped to the bottom of the list, and then and Catherine Booth College): No, Madam dropped from the list entirely after being called Chair. You and your colleagues will be relieved twice? [Agreed] to know that although I am registered to make a presentation, I have no intention of doing any I would also like to announce a presenter for such thing. I am counsel for The Salvation Army Bill 302, Professor Jack London. William and Catherine Booth College. I thought I should appear in case any of you members of So there is agreement then to have the the committee have any questions. If you have, I names called, and they will be dropped to the will be delighted to try to answer them. If not, I bottom of the list entirely after being called will leave you in peace. twice. Did the committee wish to set time limits on Madam Chairperson: Thank you very much, - presentations? Mr. Taylor. Are there any questions? There are August 8, 2002 LEGISLATNE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 3 no questions, Mr. Taylor. Thank you very much I have with me this evening the presidents for being with us this evening. and senior officers of two of the three former synagogue congregations and representatives of Mr. Taylor: Thank you, Madam Chair, and each of the congregations which have come your colleagues, for accommodating me. together to create a rock of egalitarian, conservative Judaism in a north-end synagogue, Bi11301-The Assiniboine Memorial Curling Congregation Etz Chayim. Let me introduce to Club Holding Company Limited you those who are here. Sharon Bronstone of the Additional Powers Act Beth Israel Synagogue was unable to be here, but Morris Silver of the Bnay Abraham Madam Chairperson: I will now call on Mr. Synagogue is here and Merrill Shu�an of the John Callum to present on Bill 301. Do you have Rosh Pina Congregation. We have w1th us, also, any written copies for distribution to committee the president of the new Congregation Etz members, Mr. Callum. Chayim, Sid Kasner. Mr. John Callum (Assiniboine Memorial Some two years ago, I was both privileged Curling Club): No written comments, Madam and flattered to have been invited by two Chair. I will be very brief. synagogues in Winnipeg's North End, Rosh Pina I am here this evening on behalf of the and Beth Israel, to act as a mediator/facilitator Assiniboine Memorial Curling Club, both the for them in their search to find a merger of their holding company and the operating club, speak two congregations into one. Having accepted ing in support of the bill, and here to answer any that challenge and the opportunity for me to give questions that any of the committee members something back to the community that had may have. spawned me, much, I am sure, to the chagrin of many, I was later delighted when the Bnay Madam Chairperson: Thank you, Mr. Callum.