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Henry ~1ooGey, of ~ew Orleans, L;t.,. to be United States at-. and that control is being exercised by the Po tmaster General tol'ney, ea tern
resolution originally adopted which would prohibit the Pr~si paragraph . in a tariff act to any other committee than the dent from turning it over to the Department of Commerce or any Committee on Ways and Means, that reported the bill contain other department, so that the operation and control of the wire ing the section sought to be repealed.' The Committee on Inter systems under the resolution are not the main thing, but are state and Foreign Commerce considered the whole legislative mere incidents. The main thing determining the jurisdiction of question involved in taking over the wires and had before it committees is the original proposition-the wire control, and the Secretary of War, the Secretary of the Navy, and the Post our committee has always had control of the wire systems. We master G~neral, and reported the bill which was enacted into incorporated in the interstate commerce act years ago a pro the law now sought to be repealed. Now it is proposed that vi:sion making the wire systems common carriers. the bill to repeal that .law shall go to a ·committee that had We have this strange ana anomalous situation, Mr. Speaker, nothing to do with enacting the law. It is proposed that it go in this House: A resolution, No. 21, introduced on the 19th to the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads simply of May, offered by the gentleman from OklahoPia [1\Ir. FERRIS], because the Post Office Department was designated by the providing for the return of the wire systems. On the same day President as the instrumentality through which the law should I introduced a bill, House bill 421, having the same purpose in be executed. view. Those two propositions have already been referred to the The Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce is a Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. · If you vote legislative committee, .and by a recommendation of the Post for this motion to rerefer this House joint resolution No. 2 to master . General further legislation is proposed in connection the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads, you would with this repeal measure. It clearly would be confusing mat have two committees having jurisdiction of t;he same subject ters if we sent this bill to any other committee than the Com matter at one and the same time. It does not seem to me that mittee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. If the mere the House should put itself in that attitude. execution of a law after it has been enacted gives legislative Mr. BARKLEY. Will the gentleman yield? jurisdiction to the committee having jurisdiction of the depart Mr. ESCH. Yes. mental legislation of the department designated to execute a Mr. BARKLEY. I want to call the attention of the gentleman law, it seems to me that all distinction between jurisdiction and of the House to the fact that the Committee on Interstate in committees of the House is obliterated. As the chairman has and Foreign Commerce has set to-morrow as the time for be said, there are two other identical resolutions already referred ginning hearings on this matter. to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce, the Mr. ESCH. I was about to refer to that. proper committee, and now we are asked to refer to the Com Mr. ASWELL. Will the gentleman yield? mittee on the Post Office and Post Roads the so-called Steener Mr. ESCH. Yes. son resolution, identical with the other two. Why not send Mr. ASWELL. The gentleman will recollect that the House one to the Navy Department? Why not send one to the War in the last Congre s voted to turn it back to the gentleman's Department? The Navy Department has the execution or committee. operation of this law with reference to the radio system. Mr. l\Ir. ESCH. That is true. The gentleman from Pennsylvania Chairman, I think it is useless to. consume further time on this [Mr. MoonE] asked which committee would more expeditiously matter. act on the proposition. I can say that we have set to-morrow Mr. ESCH. Mr. Speaker, I yield the remainder of my . time morning at 10.30 o'clock to begin the hearings on the resolutions. to the gentleman from Kentucky [Mr. BARKLEY]. · Our committee will act as expeditiously as possible. Mr. BARKLEY. Mr. Speaker, in determining what com l\Ir. TOWNER. Will the gentleman yield? mittee ought to be entitled to the resolution, we might refer to Mr. ESCH. Certainly. the rules of the House with reference to the jurisdiction of Mr. TOWNER. In the management of the hearings, is it the committees. The rules say that to the Committee on the Post gentleman's idea to take up the matters separately regarding Office and Post Roads should be referred matters pertaining the telegraph and telephone proposition? to post offices and post roads. The telephone and telegraph sys~ 1\!r. ESC.H. I do not wish to commit myself in advance on terns of the United States are not under the jurisdiction of the that proposition, but it seems to me that under the recommenda Post Office Department merely because the Postmaster General tions that we have from the department the whole subject mat was designated under a proclamation of the President a.<; ter will be up for consideration. director general. Until Congress has postalized the telegraph Mr. TOWNER. Perhaps it will be more expeditious in that and telephone systems they are not under the Post Office De way than in any other way. partment. Mr. ESCH. I think so. The Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce has always Mr. TOWNER. If the gentleman will pardon me, there ap had jurisdiction of them. They passed the law that puts them pears now no possible reason why the telegraphs can not be under the jurisdiction of the Interstate Commerce Commission immediately returned to the ownership and management, but for certain purposes. And, therefore, until Congress has made there may be some difficulty about the telephones. It occurs them a part of the Postal System, the telephone and telegraph to me that one ought not to wait on the other, and certainly I lines of the United States are not properly under the jurisdiction hope the committee will take that view of the case in regard to of the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads; and, as the hearings. However, I will say I have no doubt whatever the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce has already that the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce has set in motion proceedings in the form of hearings upon bills to jurisdiction of this resolution. turn back the telephone and telegraph systems to private owner Mr. ESCH. In a letter from the Postmaster General, directed ship, and two other resolutions introduced by other Members of to the gentleman from Tennessee [Mr. Moo~], the former chair the House have been referred to that committee, the Post Office man of the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads, dated Committee ought not to be given jurisdiction of this resolution May 22, be submits his views with reference to the legislation merely because it was introduced by a member of that com now pendingr and intimates very strongly that there should not mittee; and it strikes me it would bring about endless confu be an immediate return without considering the necessity of sion to take this resolution away from the Committee on Inter some additional legislation. In his letter he says that in matters state and Foreign Commerce, where it now is and where it of consolidation and unification of the wire system there should belongs, and divide up the jurisdiction between that committee be legislation giving the Interst~te Commerce Commission super and the Post Office Committee, which has never had jurisdic visory power. He also says in regard to the regulation of rates, tion of this legislation. fares, and charges, that that should be a matter for the Inter Mr. DENISON. Inasmuch as this action was taken by Con state Commerce Commission. So the Postmaster General in his gress as a war measure, the President might very \Tell have letter addressed to Judge MooN would clearly indicate that designated the Secretary of War to have executed the law, and iegislation is necessary befor.e these systems are returned, then, under the reasoning of the Po t Office Committee, it would which clearly comes within the jurisdiction of the Committee have to be referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. For these reasons, it Mr. SIMS. Yes. As a matter of fact, the President might seems to me, the motion shQuld not prevail. I reserve the bal have designated any independent person, who was not in :my ance of my time. office at all, to be director general o;f the telegraph nn . 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. ' '403 the estimates. The bill carries on its face $5,307,379.51 less letter. These amounts have accumulated. The accounts have than the aggregate of the third deficiency bill that passed the been audited, and the postmasters are entitled to it, and it is House in the last Congress, but the third deficiency bill in the an actual deficiency and must be paid. Likewise another large last Congress carried vast sums of money that were not shown item in the Post Office Department is that of providing for addi on the face of tbe bill. In renlity this bill carries $834,682,- tional funds to pay the increased contracts for star-route serv 674.61 less than was carried by the third deficiency appropria ice. The contracts now that are being made and adjustments tion bill tbat passed the House in the closing days of the last under them bring about a condition in which the Post Office Congress. That bill carried a pro' ision reading as follows: Department finds itself with a deficit of a million and a The amount of the unexpended balance of the appropriation " Gen half. eral appropriations, QuartcrDlllster Corps, fiscal year .1919," requir.ed There is appropriated for the continuance of the Employ to be covered into the Treasury by the " second deficrency approprm ment Service for the balance of this year $272,000. The last tion a ct. 1!)10," is r educed from $2,996,414,707.14 to $2,167,039,412.04. bill carried $1,800,000 for this service. Since the time that Tbe War Department came before the committee and asked action was taken on that bill there have been a great many for a deficiency appropriation of $829,375,295.10, and, instead changes. The department itself has eliminated many of its offi of appropriating it, Congress simply reduced by a sort of reap cers and has discharged a good many of its employees. It had propriation the amount that was ordered into the Treasury by $74,000 in cash on May 10. That sum and the money appropri the enactment of the second deficiency appropriation bill. The ated and carried in this bill will permit the Department of items generally contained in the bill may be grouped under Labor to continue the work \Thich it is now conducting until several department , although there are a great many items of the 1st day of July. minor importance, many of them audited accounts or actual The bill also carries some new items in regard to the pay deficiencies, tllat I will not ltave time to refer 'to in the open ment of widows of deceased Members. Since action was taken ing statement. ori the former bill five Members of this House have passed away, The State Department carries in the main three items, one and under the custom of the House we have appropriated $7,500, for contingent expenses of foreign missions, amounting to a year's salary, to the widow of the deceased Member. $100,000, another for contingent expenses in United States con There llave also been added to the bill several items for the sulates of $50,000, and another item of $50,000 for the relief of payment of judgments that have been certified since the former American seamen in foreign countries, in which item there is action on this bill. an actual deficiency under the law. The committee has ·found that the War Department actually The Treasury Department has items aggregating about bas a deficit to-day aggregating about $1,144,000,000. But we $1,000,000 in the bill. It has taken over the lease of the Navy also discovered that the War Department had large appropria Annex for $40,000, and no appropriation was made in the last tiom;, large balances, that it would not need. For example, in bill for that item. There is a lease extending until 1923, and the Ordnance Department alone there is standing to the credit the rental must be provided for. There is an item for the care of that department to-day about $1,000,000,000. It is estimated and upkeep and maintenance of the Treasury Annex of $l10,448, that it will not require more than $230,000,000 of that sum to another for the increased cost of en velopes of $95,000, and so apply on the outstanding obligations of that department, and so on dO\Yn through the Treasury Department. this bill canies autlwrization to the Secretary of \Var to take The bill also carries an item of about $850,000 for the pay from the appropriations for ordnance $770,000,000 to pay out ment of claims on-account of the explosion and fire at the muni standing legal obligations contracted in some other division of tion plant at Morgan, N. J. This is to pay property losses under the Military Establishment where there are no funQs with the findings and report of the Secretary of War. which to pay it. We also found that they could take from the The Naval Establishment contains some new items, items not appropriation of the Quartermaster Corps $450,000,000 and trans found in the former deficiency appropriation bill. They are fer that sum to some of these other bureaus where there was a large items and aggregate about $8,000,000. I do not know deficiency in appropriation. how other members of the subcommittee and the committee There was $45,000,000 for the A.ir Service which would not who heard the testimony view it, but it was an astounding be needed, which remains as a balance, and we authorize in this thing to me when I realized that the Secretary of the Navy, at act the Secretary of War to transfer where he has a surplus the last session, had made no _estimates at all to take care of that will not be needed for discharge of the legal obligations for 11,000 sick seamen in the United States after the 31st day of which the appropriations were made over to other appropria March, 1919. It was not the fault of Congress. The Navy tions where there is a deficiency and outstanding obligations. Department never estimated for a dollar to buy medical sup We thought it would be unwise to report out here a deficiency plies, to pay hospital. bills, and to take care of 11,000 seamen, bill carrying a deficiency for $1,000,000,000 to supply these de who were sick, after the 31st of March, with the funds ex ficiencies in certain bureaus of the War Department when t11ere hausted, without a dollar appropriated to take care of that wE're more than $1,000,000,000 that had already been appro· work. This bill gives the Secretary of the Navy every dollar printed for other seryices which would not be used, and thE? necessary to give the ·most tender and careful treatment to bill simply makes the businesslike provision that the appro every sailor and seaman in the United :btates Navy who may priations which are already made may be used for the dis be sick. [Applause.] charge of obligations already incurred within some limitations. The sundry civil bill which passed in the last Congress car The bill also contains a provision which I am frank to ried an item of $4,002,380 for prosecuting the work of building say is subject to a point of order. It is new legislation, but it the railroad in Alaska. Had that appropriation bill passed and will prohibit a practice that has been indulged in so often, become the law, Congress would have appropriated the full without regard to what administration is in power-the practice amount which was fixed in the law authorizing the building of of a bureau chief or the head of a department writing letters the roads, to wit, $35,000,000. The Secretary of the Interior throughout the country, sending telegrams throughout the feels that this work should be prosecuted at once; that to delay country, for this organization, for this man, for that company now the ordering of supplies and the organization of its men to write his Congressman, to wire his Congressman, in behalf to prosecute the work during the rest of the year will retard of this or that legislation. [Applause.] The gentleman from the work and will force the men who are prosecuting that work Kentucky, Mr. Sherley, former chairman of this committee, to do it under conditions not so favorable as during the summer during the closing days of the last Congress was greatly wor months, so we have incorporated in this bill an item of $1,964,351 ried because he had on his desk thousands upon thousands of with which to enable the Secretary of the Interior to carry on telegrams that had been started right here in \Vashington by this work in accordance with his plans, but this in no wise in some official wiring out for people to wire Congressman Sherley creases the limit of cost. for this appropriation and for that. Now, they use the con There are also a great many items in the bill with regard to tingent fund for that purpose, and I have no doubt that the the unusual expenses of United States marshals and clerks and telegrams sent for that purpose cost the Government more tllan the expenses of bringing jurors to sit in cases of the United $7,500. Now, it: \Vas never the intention of Congress to appro States. This extra work wu.s brought about largely by the priate money for this purpose, and section 5 of the bill will enforcement of the prohibitory laws around cantonments and absolutely put a stop to that sort of thing. [Applause.] Army camps, also the enforcement of the espionage act and the I want now to call attention to a provision which has been trading-with-the-enemy act. The enforcement of these unusual the law for some time, but a law to which a good many of laws, which were enacted because of the war, brought addi the departments pay little attention, a law which I think should tional work upon the courts, and therefore the committee has be strictly ob.served; and that is the law with regard to requir recommended the amount that was necessary to pay these offi ing the departments to so allot their appropriations for Y:.:·iours cials. The bill also carries an item of $1,007,700 for special services, by the quarter or by the month, that there will not be a delivery fees. Under the law each postmaster is entitled to deficiency at the end of the year. Hereafter when dcpartr:1c:-: ts retain 8 cents out of every 10 cents received for a special-delivery come before the Committee on Appropriations and r,sk for a ue- 404 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. }fAy 29, fieiency they mu t show that they have scrupulously observed the or their ability, but it is cruel to say of a nation that fought for statute and have not set out at the beginning of the fiscal year. to four years, that gave of its best blood, that made the sacrifices create an organization that will result in a deficiency and thus that the French and British and Belgian and Italians muue, require large sums to meet the deficiency. that America won the war, intimating by that that the acrifices . Mr. GARD. Will the gentleman yield? of those people had been in vain. Mr. GOOD. I will. Let us remembeT that when the German horde started across Mr. GARD. \Vill the gentleman ad vi ~e me where in the bill Belgium the Belgian Army went out and, alrno t to a man died that particular reference isr in the defense of their territory and held that horde until the 1\Ir. GOOD. It is in section 5 of the bill. French and British could come to the defense of their land and Mr.· DENISON. Will the gentleman yield for a question? of civilization. [Applause.] And let us remember that in the :Mr. GOOD. Yes. clo ing days of the war, when victory was just about to come, l\1r. DENISON. Where the committee has authorized the that two American divisions were fighting side by side with the taking of an appropriation from one bureau to be used for Belgian Army, and in one day the Belgians took over 0,000 another, when there is a deficiency, does the bill direct the prisoners. Let us not forget those things. department where the money must be used? · And as for the French, the stand of the noble French at Mr. GOOD. No. The 'bill only direct the source from which Verdun will be sung and told in song and story for more than it shall come. We went into that matter, and we believed that a thousand years as comparable with the valiant def n e made there were so many place where there were little appropria by the Greeks at the Pass of Thermopylre. No man can stand tions; and, as the gentleman knows, a great deal of our opera and look at that battle field and see the great hills that have tion is 3,000 miles awa , and it would take a good deal of time been sho away to the depth of 6 feet and imagine that France to get these reports in. Gen. Lord, the Chief of the Finance had not something to do with wib.ning the war. They went Divi ion, could not tell us exactly the funds to which they there and they died there, and then others came and died, too. would be allotted, and so we put in a provision that no part When the great cry went up, " They shall not pa ," France should be used for services in the District, and that the- Secre wrote into the history of the world a record that every man who tary of War should at the next session report to Congress loves liberty and independence and has regard and respect for the funds to which these appropriations were diverted. his home and his women will always revere. 1\Ir. SMITH of Idaho. Will the gentleman yield for a I am proud of the Frenchmen and the fight they made. I question? think if you go to Ypres, as we did, and go over the territory Mr. GOOD. Yes. between Mont E:emmel and Vimy Ridge, where the English and Mr. Sl\HTH of Idaho. Is it intended by section 5 to prevent the Scotch and the Irish, where the Australians and Canadians the employees or officers of the Government from communicating were, and who in allegiance to the British flag died in the erTice directly with their Representative in Congr ? of their country and in the-service of democracy, you can not Mr. GOOD. No; that is expressly r.eserved. help but marvel that it was possible for human beings to exi t Mr. SMITH of Idaho. It says "tlu·ough proper official chan- there, much less to fight there. I stood on the hill where you nels." · · could see over a distance of at least 20 miles in every direction. ~ll". GOOD: They have, of course, the right to communicate, There was not a tree, nor a house, nor a bush, nor anything just as before, with their Members of Congress. except the d~bris of battle in confusion, and the wlwle terraiu Mr. SMITH of Idaho, The words " through official chan was as full of shell holes as the ocean is of waves. Each in nels" should be eliminated if that was not the intention. dentation was filled with a slimy, greasy, green ooze, from which Mr. GOOD. It was not the thought of the committee to pestilence was rising even then. To say that men who fought hamper in any degree or limit or restrict those communications there and died there and those that came to fight where others that pass from the Members of 'Congress to th.e heads of the had died had not a part in the winning of this war is to be in various executive departments. human and cruel. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman f.co.m Iowa has Never again will there be a battle in which so many people expired. died or in which greater sacrifices were made than around Vimy Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2Q Ridge and Mont Kemmel. There are places there where there minutes to the gentleman from New York [Mr. CALDWELL]. were towns, but where there was not even one single brick left, Mr. CALDWELL. Mr. Chairman, the other day I li.stened much less one on top of another. I saw places which they told with a great deal of care to the speech made by the gentleman me had been villages of from 1,500 to 3,000 people in which there from illinois [Mr. MAnnEN] concerning the things that he had was not the slightest vestige of anything that indicated that tllere seen on his recent trip to France and Germany, and particularly had ever been a human habitation there. The only debris :in his opinionS with reference to the attitude of the various govern sight was the railroad iron, ilie twisted rails, pieces of old tanks, ments with which we were allied in the war and their peoples, pieces of cannon and guns, and thrown-away parts of uniform - and his reasons for opposing the league of nations. horrible and depressing beyond description. I . ay that it i~ It so happened that at the close of the last Congress the Mili cruel for anyone to say that those nations did not help to win tary Committee of the House of Representatives arranged to the war. The idea that we wish to convey to the American make an official visit to France and the army of occupation; people is that America made a supreme effort, and tl1e upreme and, being a member of that committee, I had the great pleasure effort of America was the balance of power, and it wa.s the om and distinction of going with the chairman and other members pelling force that caused the Germans' retirement and their final of the committee, 13 in number, over the whole of France and capitulation. the occupied territory of Germany and Belgium. After that It is very easy for you to understand it if you will look at committee had retnrned home I went to London, spent two days the map here. On J"uly 18, 1918, the farthest German advance, there, and then returned a week later. and the one that was then being pressed, was at hat nu America might have started sooner; fortunately she did not Thierry. It was here that we read in the newspapers that the arrive too late, for there is no question but that America ar marines had turned the Germans back, and let us not have a Tived in time to turn the tide of battle. All agree that the Ameri misunderstanding about that. The marines were th r . A can soldier is superior to any other soldier in the wodd. [Ap machine-gun company had come in across the river. A ridge plause.] He is the biggest soldier, he is the smartest soldier, had been thrown up to stop the German advance, and they drove 'he carries the best guns and shoots the most rounds of am 'the Germans out of Chateau-Thierry and shot up the town. munition, he has the best equipment and the highest ideal of But the real fight that forced the German retirement from any man who ever fought for any cause in the history of the Chateau-Thierry was caused from the operation ot the Fir t world, and it was only natural when men of that kind and Char at:ld Second Divisions and a division of French troop u:Qder Gen. acter were matched against those of the breed of our enemy Mangin. The First Division was under Gen. Summerall and lle that victory followed. We see here on the map the territory in steod on the battle field here and pointed out to us the llarushlps shade over which our soldiers passed. When we realize that that had been overcome by the Amerlca:n forces, the manner in at no time were they compelled to retreat, except for a few hours, which the operation was carried on, and the extreme valor of the and then immediately advanced; 'vhen we see the strategic im American soldier, which made it possible for tllat victory to be portance of their operation we must be convinced that a.t least obtained. the final pressure that brought about a victory for America and Now, let me see if I can explain it to you. The First Divi iou her allies was applied by the American Army. and the Seeond Divi ion were brought in in the neighborhood of The most crLuel thing that any man can say in 'discussing this Sois ons . .On the little map ·here you can see it plainly. They war is to say that America won the war. I would not take from were brought in at night, and the Germans did not know they the laurels of any man who served in oul' foreign army the ·were there and did not expect them. In the morning follow.i.rlg ,smallest meed and I would not under any circumstances per the night in which they moved into position, the First Division "mit any man to cast aspersions upon their valor, their integrity, ron the left and the Second on the right and the French divi ·ion 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 405 in between,. making a corps, just at the ' break of day, when Atiny, two diviSions Of the National Guard, marched to victory, there was R considerahle fog,. began the advance llllder a barrage when the finest and greatest troops in the world before that laid down by the American and French artillery, the like of had tried and failro. [Applause.} which the Geimans had ne-ver seen~ and which they have since So in that respect. if one limits the application of the phrase, learned to respect, for our guns spoke in an accent the Hun "America won the war "; but for pity's sake do not be so cruel as could understand. The object of that advance was to cut the to use that expression, for it is so easily misapplied and mis· railroad and the highways that fed the German troops that were understood. America brought the final pressure that won the pressing on through Cha.teau-Thierry. At the same time pres. war, b-ut do not forget that while America was pressing here sure was started from the other side, not with the expectation and doing these things of great strategic importance the whole at once of pressing through, but to keep. the Germans on that of the battle line was under movement, and the n.rmies of side busy. Tbis advance went forward on schedule to the first the Allies marched forward to victory, ·but at an enormous two objectives. sacri.fice, and in th{)Se' closing days the English, the Scotch. the On the third objective the First Division made its objeetive, Irish, the. Anzacs, and the Frenchmen died by the hundreds of but the French to the left found they courd not come up,. and it thousands", while our deaths were only something like 72.,000. was necessary for us to adopt new tactics which the· field officers 1\.fr. LAZARO. Will the gentleman yield for a question? there had never used befo.re, and throw another force in tn pro- Mr~ CALDWELL. Certainly. teet then· fln.Q.k. The third and fourth objectives were taken. Mr~ LAZARO. Instead of quarreling as to who won the war, '.rhe 1·ailroad and the highway from Soissons to Chateau-Thi.erry does not tbe gentleman think we had better be satisfied to quote were cut, and the German Army moved back to a new line to. the language of Admiral Schley at the Battle of Santiag Mr. W AI..SH. With reference to this item the law provides made by the chairm~ of the committee that the Navy Depart that the moneys receive~ by this official_in the sale of alien ment failed to estimate for a sufficient amount of money to pny property shall, minus the expenses, be CO\ered into the Treasury, for the care of sick and wounded seamen, while that is true, it is there to be held until disposed of by Congress. not exactly correct The fact is that when the Navy Depart l\!r. GOOD. That is correct. ment, through its Surgeon General, came to the committee-! l\fr. WALSH. If that is so the committee should be in posses was not then a member of the deficiency subcommittee but am sion of information as to how much money has been covered informed by the Surgeon General-he was told to submit his into the Treasury, how much has been used for the payment of actual deficiency at that time and the Congress would take care attorneys. This is one of the bureaus, I think, the committee of it There was a misunderstanding, and he submitted a defi will find on further investigation that has a considerable num ciency as of the date that he appeared before the committee, ber of attorneys in its employ in connection with these trust but regardless of whether that was a mistake or not, it is not estates so called. That is, under the law they are held in trust correct to create the impression that the Navy Department until disposed of, and the money covered into the Treasury. I would not have been ab1e to take care of the sick and woundeu trust the gentleman will persist in his inquiry and get the in seamen, because the House should know that the Navy, unlike formation he endeavored to secure when the hearing was held. other departments of the Government, has a peculiar system of l\!r. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, I want to accounting. It has what is known as general accounts, ad • say in support of what the gentleman has said that the subcom vance, under which they can pay any shortage in any one de mittee requested that a statement be furnished showing the partment As to the wisdom of that, I am not prepared to say. name of every individual employed by the Alien Property Cus I have never served on the Naval Committee, and therefore do todian. The Alien Property Custodian is entirely willing and not undertake at this time to approve or criticize. But. the fact anxious. to furnish such a statement. It necessarily calls for is that the Navy could ha-ve drawn from general accounts, ad considerable work, but just as soon as it can be prepared he vance, for every dollar tlia t was necessary to take care of every will submit it to the Appropriations Committee so that it will wounded and sick sailor or seaman in the service of the Govern be available to Members of the House. ment, m.id if this bill were not considered at this time they Now, I want to make a statement in regard to what the would do it, and the Navy has the funds in that account to do chairman of the committee said in relation to the appropriations it. Of course, in turn they would have to charge it up against carried by this bill. It is true that this bill carries $5,307,379.51 the Surgeon General, and some time later we· would have to less than the bill reported by the committee of the last Con make good the deficiency. There is no justification, however, gress. It should, however, be said that the appropriations thus for creating the impression that the department failed to pro made were made to take c·are of the departments of the Govern vide sufficient funds to take care of the sick sailors and eu ment from that time-February-to July 1. Manifestly a bill men. reported at this time for the purpose of carrying on the work l\!r. GOOD. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last two of the Government in the various departments only from this words. I did not intend to say anything to reflect upon th~ ac date to July 1 should carry much less than the bill reported in tion of the committee or of Congress. I want to say to the February. Again, we must remember that this bill when intro gentleman that when the estimate was made for supplies for duced in the last Congress carried appropriations of many mil the Bureau of Medicine and Surgery in the Navy up to March lions for the \Var Risk Bureau .and the Pension Bureau which 31, 1919, without making .any estimate at all to supply defi were carried in the deficiency bill that passed a few days ago. ciencies after that date, it was not made by mistake, but was Had those items been included in this bill it would be much made in pursuance to an order issued by the Secretary of the larger than the previous deficiency bill. . Navy. There was no mi.,take about it, and when I beard it I With reference to the statement made that it carried $800,- was hardly able to repress the feelings that I had for an official 000,000 less, that is true, and the House ought to know the who knew there was a deficiency from the 31st of March until reason why. When the War Department came before the Com tbe lRt day of July and never estimated for it. I am not making ,mit_tee on Appropriations after the armistice that committee, idle statements with regard to that. . I 1..'1low what I am talking through l\!r. Sherley, conducted hearings for the purpose of about. ascertaining how much could be covered into the Treasury. Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, will the gen- The result of those hearings was reported here in what was tleman yield? known as the third deficiency bill. The department estimated Mr. GOOD. Yes. bow much they could cover back by canceling contracts, by Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Will the gentleman kindly salvaging material, and reducing expenses. After that the read the order?· Quartermaster General came before the committee and asked Mr. GOOD. Oh, I have not the order. for $800,000,000 to cover extraordinary expenses reported to the Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. I know the gentleman has War Department in February of.this year on bills that accrued not, and I know that the gentleman will never have it. I know abroad. It became necessary for the Appropriation Committee that the Surgeon General -spoke to the chairman of the com in the deficiency bill to reduce by the sum of $800,000,000 the mittee and understood the_chairman of the committee to say amount that we proposed to cover back into the Treasury, and that he wanted him to report the actual deficiencie , and tbc the department proposed to use this $800,000,000 in settling its committee would then take care of it, and the bill that wa accounts. That bill failed. then reported by that deficiency subcommittee the gentleman In this bill we are able to save that $800,000,000, and the from Iowa voted for on the floor and in the full committee. House should know and the country should know that it is Mr. GOOD. Of course. due to the efficiency of the War Department that, in canceling Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. Without any criticism. their contracts, salvaging material, and reducing expenses, Mr. GOOD. Of course. I knew absolutely nothing about it they find to-day that they can turn back to the Treasury ·at the time. I knew nothing about it until tl1e matter was $800,000,000 more than they anticipated last January and brought to the attention of the subcommittee at tbi time, tllat February. [Applause on Democratic.side.] B~ the exercise of the estimate only covered up to the 31st day of 1\Inrch. good business ability, they were able to do that. The suggestion Mr. BYR~TES of South Carolina. I am satisfied the gentle to use this $800,000,000 as provided in this bill came from the man does not do himself credit. He is an exceedingly actiYe 'Var Department, and the committee agreed to it. Not only man on the committee, and I am satisfied that he knew some is that true but the committee in this bill has given to them thing about it, or at least should have known something about it. greater powers than they ever had before. In this section re Mr. GOOD. I will say to the gentleman that I did not know ferred to by the chairman, it will be found that they have the about it and I did not know about it until about the time we power to use this sum of $800,000,000 that they ru·e recovering commenced the hearings. With regard to the amount that was from ordnance, aircraft, and the other departments, to pay any covered in, I am not going to make a plea or a statement that expenses of the War Department; and, revolutionary as that· the War Department has been so economical in its expenditures may be, I know the committee is justified, because the economi that it has been able to save this money. When the Committee cal administration of the War Department in this matter justi on Appropriations reported out the second deficiency bill we re fies the placing of that .trust in them. pealed about $8,000,000,000 of contracts and authorizations and The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from South about $7,000,000,000 of appropriations, and the committee diu a Carolina has expired. wise and patriotic thing when it did that. It did not attempt l\Ir. BYRNES of South Carolina. Mr. Chairman, I ask to take from a single brunch of the 1\lilitary or Naval E tabli ll unanimous consent to proceed for three minutes more. ment a dollar that was necessary. It attempted to leave them The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? more money even than would be necessary for such purpo _es, There was no objection. . and it was discovered that the War Department, not the Con :Mi·. BYRr-.t~S of South Carolina. It should also be called to gress, not the committee, had made a mistake. The gentleman the attention of the House that" with regard to the statement well knows that the committee fo1loweu the advice of the War 1919. CONGRESSIONAL · RECORD-HOTJSE. 407 Department .and did not wa:nt to take, and did not take, a doliar chairman of the Committee ·On Appropriations and to the Mem more than the War Department said they should give up. The bers of the House that this is necessary. Recently I took up War Department made a mistake. They did not know and could · the matter with the representative of the Civil Service Commis not know some of the things that were transpi1ing on the other , sion in my city concerning the appointment <>fa soldier who was side. They could not know-and I do not blame them for seeking a position thei'e in the zone supply office, Quartermaster's that-the state of their balances. They figured also on getting Department of the Army, a soldier who had returned fr-om British ships to brtng 'back American soldiers. They iigured on service. I wrote a letter to the gentleman in charge of the an army of 500;000 men by July 1, whereas we Wl""U have .an eivil service there, -calling his attention to the act of Congress a},'my of more than a million men on ·J"uly 1, ·and, therefore, to which I mve refened, that preference should be given to these these calculations-true, the calculations of the War Depart- men, and asked him to carry that in mind when be considered ment and of Congress-were out of joint. The only thing I nm tllis man's appointment. He replied to me, and said that under saying is that the other bill did provide practieally fo:r a reap- the law, as advised by the Civil Ser'Vice Commission, he could propriation of $829,375;000 by reducing the amount which was not give preference to tbis man or to any man, sol-dier, sailor, covered into the Treasury under that former aet. This does not or marine, in Government employ at St. Louis unloos be was dis do it. We simply reach out and find these balances and provide charged by reason of disability incurred in the line 'Of duty, that the7 shall be used to pay for expenses, to pay for eontt'aets which was an ':let of Congress passed a good m-any years ago. I already entered mto, in bureaus where there i'S -a deficiency. took it up with the Civil Service Commission in W~aton, and The Clerk read as follows~ received the same infOTmation. The -act of Congress of Mar~h 3, The unexpended balances on .Tune 30. 1919, of appropriations for ad- 1919, had this provision in tlmt law: ditiona1 and temporary e-mployees tor the Cl;vH Serv!ce Commission made. respectively, in the legislative, executive, and judici:ll appr:apria- Pt'Ov-ide _ l\Ir. DYER. I think they would construe that to mean that Mr. DYER. It was the seconu ..one that I refer to. It became any man who had served and had been placed in an inactive a law, and that provision was in it, offered by me upon t11e floor. status would be included in this provision with any man who A point of order was made against it. The point of order was was 1l0nombly discharged. debated, and the Chair ruled in favor of the provision. An ap l\Ir. L_\GUAllDIA. 'Vill the gentleman yield? peal was taken from the decision, and the Committee of the l\lr. DYER. Yes. Whole sustained the Chair. 1\lr. LAGUARDIA. Regardless of the law, what is the attitude That is a precedent, Mr. Chairman, which I sugge t compels of the various departments of the Government for reemploying attention, and I beg the gentleman to withdraw his point of former employees who were compelled to leave and go into the order. We ought to give this matter consideration. The people military service? want it, and the soldiers and sailors and marines are entitled l\Ir. DYETI. I will say to· the gentleman that we had that to it. matter up at the last session, and we passed a provision that 1\fr. GOOD. Mr. Chairman, it is clearly legislation. compels Government officials to reinstate men who had honor The CHA.ffil\i.AN. The time of the gentleman from Iowa ably served in the \Var with Germany. We had some trouble has expired. Does the gentlemau from Iowa insist upon the until that provision was put in by the Congress, but since that point of order? time I have had no complaint, and the Government officials are, 1\lr. GOOD. I insist upon it. of course, presumed to carry out the act of the Congress. The CHAIRMAN. It is the duty vf the Chair to rule in ac l\Ir. BYRNS of Tennessee. The gentleman says there was COl'dance with the rules, no matter how meritorious a suggestion some h·ouble at that time. In all fairness to the department, may be that comes from the floor by way of an amendment. does not the gentleman think it fair to say that the department The amendment offered by the gentleman from Mi souri is so had no authority under the law to turn away employees and clearly contrary to the rule that the Chair is obliged to sustain take over honorably discharged soldiers? the point of order. l\Ir. DYER I think the gentleman's statement is entirely 1\Ir. DYER. Will the Chair permit me to call his attention to proper, and that is the way I intended to state it. When these a ruling of the Chair on the same proposition in the last Con soldiers and sailors gave up their positions and went away, gress, on the . econd deficiency bill, when the gentleman from men and women were appointed under the civil-service law to Texas [l\1r. GARNER] was in ·the chair? He is a yery able and take their places, but it was difficult to get them out unless a learned Member of this House and an expert in parliamentary law \Tas passed to tllat effect. Jaw. l\lr. Chairmru1, I hope and sincerely trust that this amend T-he CHAIRMAN. The Chair is informed by the parlia ment may be agreed to, especially, 1\fr. Chairman, in view of the mentary clerk that that is not this proposition at all. great sen·ice that men have rendered in this war, and for the 1\Ir. DYER. The -propo ition went further than this, Mr. further reason that to-morrow is Decoration Day, a day set Chairman, if you pardon me. That proposition compels an ex apart by a grateful people and a grateful Nation to honor the ecutiYe department to reinstate in the Government service memory of those brave and heroic Americans who have made these men who were honorably discharged and returned home. our country what it is. They have given us the honor and It compels them; this only says they are to be given a preference prestige of the greatest and most loved nation in all the world. if they are qualified under the law for the positions. This is On the eve of that clay w-e are considering this matter which is not as strong as the precedent to which I have invited the atten of so great importance, because the country and the people and tion of the distinguished chairman. the Congress want tl1is small preference given to these men. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is still informed that tlle sitna· It ays they must be qualified if they receive the appointment. tion is entirely uifferent in this case. The amendment offered This preference is only in case they are found qualifieu under by the gentleman from l\lissouri is so clearly legislation upon the rules and under the law to pass these examinations. We an appropriation bill, contrary to the mlc, that the Chair is haYc men returning from overseas, and men who have returned, obliged to adhere to his decision. who c:m holu positions in the Government service in various l\Ir. DYER. Mr. Chairman, I respectfully appeal from the places in this country. They can perform the duties. I have decision of the Chair. had men come to me who have been wounded, who have lost The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from 1\iis ouri a']_)peals limbs, but yet who are able to do work of some kind in the Gov from the decision of the Chair. The question is, Shall the· de ernment service in my city, as they are doing elsewhere. Others cision of the Chair stand as the judgment of the committee? who have sen·eu but have not been wounded seek positions in The question was taken; and upon a division there were-ayes GoYernment service. They can do the work. And yet these men 103, noes 2. · are \Yithout opportunity to secure employment in civil _life in The CHAIRMAN. On this vote the ayes are 103 and the no s the Government service in the Government that they fought for, 2. The decision of the Chair is sustained. that their comrades died for, and, gentlemen, it is most unjust 1\lr. DYER 1\Ir. Chairman, I make the point of order that and most unfair. We are only amending the law to cover what there is no quorum present. Did the Chair sny 93 ayes or 103? Congress intended, and I sincerely hope -we will be able to do it; The CHAIRMAN. One hundred and thr e. so I nsk of the distinguished chairman of the committee to Mr. DYER. Then I withdraw the point of no quorum. withdraw his point .of order and let the committ_ee vote upon The CHAilll\fAN. The Clerk will read. this nmendment. Tile Clerk read as follows : 1\Ir. GOOD. 1\lr. Chairman, I am in sympathy with what nistribution of card indexes: For services of assistants at salaries less tlle gentleman has said ·and the purpose he desires to accom than $1,000 per annum and for piecework and work by tbc hour, in plish; but I know, and he knows, that a deficiency bill is not cluding not exceeding $500 for freight charges, expressage, travelin~ the place to amend laws of this kind that should be amended, expenses connected wJth such distribution, and expenses of attenu ance at meetings when incurred on the written authority and direction and therefore I am compelled to make the point of oruer. of the Librarian, $2,142.25. l\Ir. DYER. Will the gentleman yield for a question? I of 1\Ir. GOOD. I will. Mr. GOULD. Mr. Chairman, reser>c a point order in 1\Ir. DYER. Let me call the attention of the distinguished order to ask a question. chairman of the Committee on Appropriations to the fact that The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from New York reserves it was in a deficiency appropriation bill in the last Congress, of a point of order. · which the gentle~an from Kentucky, l\Ir. Sherley, was chair 1\lr. GOULD. I want to ask the chairman of the Committee man, upon which we wrote the provision of the law that says on Appropriations if this will in any way increase piece rates that the honorably discharged soldiers, sailors, and marines in for handling the distribution of cards or salaries in nny way? the present war must be restored to their positions in the Gov Mr. GOOD. This estimate was made on the present rates of ernment. pay, but on an increased demand for cards. Mr. GOOD. That was a limitation. Mr. GOULD. No increase of rates? Mr. DYER. A former chairman of the Committee of the Mr. GOOD. No increase: Whole House aid it was in order, and the amendment was The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman make llis point of or >oted on and agreed to. We have a precedent. We had a divid der or withdraw it? ing Yote, and the Chair was sustained, although appealed from, l\Ir. GOULD. I withdraw it, Mr. Chairman. that you can put legislation of that kind upon an appropriation The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman withdraws his point of bill, because it is only a limitation and does not provide for an order. increase in appropriation. It is thoroughly in order. In the last The Clerk read as follows : Congress, in a deficiency bill presented to this House by the gen For maintenance, care, and repair of automobiles, motor cycles, and motor trucks owned by the Distl'ict of Columbia, that ar·e not otherwise tleman from Kentucky, Mr. Sherley, it was written into the provided for, including such personal services in connection therewith bill and is the law of the land to-day. not otherwise authorized, as the commissioners shall in writing specially Mr. GOOD. The last deficir.!ncy bill Mr. 1\IAPES. 1\Ir. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the Mr. _GOOD. On March 5, '1919, the commissioners found paragraph for the purpose of asking the chairman a question. there would be a shortage in this fund if they continued the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Michigan reserves the then force at -the then rates of pay. They made a reduction point of order on the paragraph. in the force and they reduced the pay of those who remained Mr. 1\IAPES. What is the purpose of this appropriation? on the force, with the statement that it was neeessary to 1\fr. GOOD. This is purely a maintenance item. It is for the reduce their pay, but that the commissioners would ask Con repair and maintenance and all expenses connected with the gress to appropriate money sufficient to pay them their regular care of the various automobiles, automobile trucks, and motor salaries just as if -there had been no deficiency in that appro cycles. The hearings revealed the fact that the District had priation. I think they are being paid $3.10 and $2.70 and that 26 automobiles, 6 trucks, and 11 motorcycles. Out of this their former pay was $3.58 and $3.26. They discharged about appropriation, which was originally $18,500, there was an actual 200 of their employees, and my recollection is that there are deficiency. Their funds are exhausted, and they have already about 100 or more who will receive something under this provi incurred obligations with regard to the upkeep and maintenance sion if it becomes a law. of these cars and motorcycles. Mr. WALSH. Of course, it is very apparent, from evidences 1\fr. ::\IAPES. Does the language in lines 20 and 21, reading as which are visible to everybody, that something happened to the follO,YS: street department of the District of Columbia. The streets Personal services _* not otherwise authorized- have never been in such bad condition as they have been during" mean that the work has not been authorized by law? the past few months. 1\fr. GOOD. No. That is the current la\\. We have not Does this $6,000 take care of this withheld compensation for changed in the slightest particular the current law under which the entire street force? the appropriation was made. Mr. GOOD. It takes care of the compensation that was de Mr. M.APES. Mr. Chairman, I \\ithdraw the point of order. ducted from the pay of certain laborers from the 5th of March The CHAillMAN. The Clerk will read. on until the 1st of June. The Clerk read as follows : 1\fr. WALSH. I withdraw the reservation of the point of For additional cost to the various departments of the District of order. Columbia government for telephone service for the months of May and The Clerk read as follows : June, 1!>19, due to increased rates effec~ivc May 1, 1919, $2,300. - The Commissioners of the District of Columbia are hereby authorized l\Ir. WALSH. Mr. Chairman, if I understood correctly, this to investigate conditions affecting the existing contract for the collec tion and disposal of ashes in the District of Columbia during the fiscal is the item that provides for the increased cost of telephone year ending June 30, 1919, with a view to determining whether any senic£'. I would like to ask when this increase came to be ap adjustment should be made in the compensation paid, or to be paid, parent, when it began, and how much of an increase there is? thereunder and to adjust the same if the facts disclose the necessity for such adjustment: Provided further, That additional compensation, l\Ir. GOOD. The item of $2,300 is for the increased cost of if any, paid as authorized herein shall not exceed the sum of ~22,000 the te1 ephone service in the District for the months of 1\lay and for the year. And the said commissioners are further authonzed, if June. The Postmaster General, under the authority given him, in their opinion such action shall be to the best interests of the Dis trict of Columbia, to hereafter conduct any or all of the operations has increased the rate, and the total annual increase .over the involved in the collection and disposal of city refuse of every kind as present rate amounts to $13,831.40, and the amount here is for municipal functions, and for that purpose to purchase or lease the necessary plants, buildings, and land, to purchase or hire horses and two months. The regular appropriation was only sufficient to horse-drawn vehicles, ·passenger-carrying and other motor-propelled meet the expenses for the entire fiscal year, without reference to vehicles, equipment, and machinery, and to employ expert and other any increase in the rates. personal services and labor, and to pay traveling, maintenance, inci- Mr. \VALSH. So that the contract which the District had dental, and contingent expenses : Proviclecl, That products arising from such operations conducted as authorized herein may be sold and the with the telephone company has apparently gone by the boards ·proceeds arising therefrom shall be -paid into the Treasury of the United since the Postmaster General has taken command, and we are States to the credit of the United States and the District of Columbia in equal parts: Provided furthet· That any or all operations herein , paying at the rate of $1,150 per month more for the telephone authorized to be conducted as mumcipal1 functions may be put into effect service since it has become a goyernmental facility in spreading as such upon the expiration of any of the existing contracts for the intelligence. Is that the case? collection and disposal of city refuse or upon the failure of any of the Mr. GOOD. Yes; I think that is the case. It is the increase present contractors to properly perform the work covered by their contracts: Proviclecl further That it shall be unlawful for any em in the rate of phones used by the District. ployee of the District of Cofumbia engaged in the removal of garbage, 1\fr. MAPES. In that connection, have not the State authori ashes, miscellaneous refuse, dead animals, or night soil, or for any em ployee of a contractor doing such work for the District of Columbia, to ties in several of the States secured injunctions preventing accept any gift, except from -his employer, in money or any other thing the companies from collecting the increased rates on the ground of value for any service performed in connection with the removal of that the Government had control of the wires? city refuse as hereinbefore described ; and it shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation, except such employer, to pay or offer to Mr. GOOD. I know nothing about that except what I haYe pay, any money or to make any gift to any such · employee for such seen in the newspapers. . service; that any person violating the provisions of this paragraph shall Mr. WALSH. I think the public-utilities commissions of sev- be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, and shall, upon conviction, be fined eral of the States have taken the matter into court. in a sum of not less than $5 nor more than ~_ 40 for each s11;ch ol.l'ense. Mr. MADDEN. l\fr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. DYER. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on that Mr. ·wALSH. Yes. paragraph. Mr. :MADDEN. I notice one thing-that the Postmaster Gen Mr. 1\lAPES. I reserve a point of order on the paragraph. eral has increased the long-distance telephone rates 144 per The CHAIRMAN. A point of order is reserved by the gentle cent, on an average, all over the United States. He has in man from Missouri and the gentleman from Michigan. creased the local rates to subscribers here from $4 to $5, so Mr. DYER. I think it is clearly subject to a point of order, that each one who has a telephone in his house now, although Mr. Cbairman. There is legislation all through the section. he has a contract obligating him to pay $4 a month, is com Mr. GOOD. This same provision was put in the last bill on oelled to pay $5. He is compelled now, if he wants a telephone the floor of the House. The situation, as I understand it, is this: put into his house, to pay $7, whereas prior to the Government The person who has the contract for the disposition of aRhes control he had to pay nothing. If he wants to send a telegram, in the District of Columbia has failed, and the work now is he must pay 20 per cent more than he ever paid before. I hope being caiTied on by his bondsmen. The contract was made at the House in its wisdom this morning did the right thing when a time when labor conditions were altogethe.r different than it sent to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce they are at present, and it was stated on the floor of the House, the consideration of the question of the return of the telephone I think, when the matter came up before, that the contractor and telegraph lines, and that we will get a report back quickly, claims to have lost in the neighborhood of $50,000 or $60,000. as a result of which we will be able to do away with these ex At any rate, he is a bankrupt. He desires a much larger amount cessive and unjust charges. than the limitation fixed in the bill. The matter was thrashed The CHAIRMAN (Mr. TREADwAY). The time of the gentle out so thoroughly on the floor of the House and was agreed to man has expired. so readily by the Senate that the committee did not go into it, The Clerk read as follows: because· of the short time we had and because it seemed to be For dust prevention, cleaning, and snow removal, including the same the practically unanimous judgment of the last Congress that objects specified under this head in the District of Columbia appropri this item should go in. , I will say to the gentleman from l\1is tion act for the fiscal-year 1919, $34,000: Providecl That not to exceed $6,000 may be paid from t his appropriation as addttional1 compensation souri that I think unquestionably the item is subject to a point from March 5 to June 1, 1919, t o laborers in t he street cleaning depart of order. ment, so as to make t heir rate of compensation for that period equal to Mr. DYER. I think there is no doubt that this item js sub the rate paid them prior to March 5, 1919. ject to a point of order. ·when an nttempt is made t o .c:et some l\fr. 'VALSH. I reserYe a 11oint of order on this item, for the thing passed that really is deman\lctl nnd J H ' CC~~:! ry :111 <1 to purpose of asking _how many of these laborers get this additional which there is no objection the Committee on App~·o priations compensation, and llow clill it h:1ppen to end on March 5, 19191 make a point of order. 410 OONGRESSION AL RECORD-HOTISR ~fAY 29, Tow, tbe .gent-leman from 'Mi 1\lr. WALSH. And ho" w:1.s it that tbe funds ran out so that discussing children who are sent out by the Board of Chil the interest a.t not exceeding 4 per cent per annum on said j-udgments~ was $1,246, with costs am-ounting to $22.65, and the J'udgment as provided' by law from the date the same 'became due until th-e. date ol. payment. · in favor of 1\fi·: Kalbfus WtLS $2,415, with costs amounting to 1\llr. W.ALSH. Mr. Ch::tirtll.UD, I m.eve- t() strike out the last $20.35. Those Jtlrl'gmen_ts we:rre appealed, or, rather the cause word. This item is to prevlde fo-r the payment at two jurl:g:- was appealed, and the right t:D..-ey have to sua unde1· the contract ments-- was affirmed by ~ appellate. court. After that the case pro- :Mr. GOOD. It pro\id-es fer the payment -o~ seveTUl judg:- ceed.ed to trial and the judgments were rendered by the court ments. and ~o aJ?peal has been taken from those judgments. They are 1\fr. WALSH. There are only two individuals invo-lv~ are· drawmg mterest at 4 per cent. and afte1· full consideration the there not? committee felt that Congress ought to respect the judgment of Mr. GOOD No; there are. more than. two individuals". the court; that we ought not to set up ·Our judgment as- to Mr. WALSH. One of them is a: fo:rme:r assessor and the ot::her whether or not those men were entitled to their pay after the is a police officer. court had determined that they had a legal claim and had ren- Mr. GOOD. The gentleman ha-s in view the in.cre1l.Se in the dered judgm-ent against the District. item.. The item carried in the previous bill was $3,729.55. Now Mr. WALSH. Well, here is this case of the assessor. The that amotint :EJ.as been increased to $8,30R2S', and that. increase judgment was rendered May 22, 1915, by the Court of Appeals. is to take care of three additional judgments. Tb.e--e are eight The case was remanded to the lower court. Th-e commissioners judgments all told. were directed to restore him to his former position,. and he Mr. WALSH. What ab 1\Ir. -wALSH. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on what caused me so much anxiety was that I was wondering if this the paragraph. $6,000,000,000 was something that we would subsequently be The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Massachusetts re· asked to provide for in addition to all these enormous amounts serves a point of order on the paragraph. that we know are to come upon us at this session? 1'\Ir. WALSH. What is the necessity of continuing this ap· Mr. GOOD. No; the gentleman will understand that in the propriation for rugs, carpets, and bottle water coolers during War Department, as well as the Navy Department when a check 1920? has been drawn by a disbursing officer the check is paid, and Mr. GOOD. Part of the annex is not completed, and will not then the account goes to the auditor, and he audits the account. be completed for some months, and the appropriation was made I think practically none of these accounts of this cla s that he in one sum for the entire estimate of cost for supplying this has charge of are audited until after they are paid. equipment; and inasmuch as it can not be used or put in, part Mr. GREEN of Iowa. This then is something for which the of it, until next year, the provision was inserted that it should payments have been made already? be continued available during the fiscal year 1920. Mr. GOOD. Yes. Mr. WALSH. Which is the Arlington annex? Mr. GREEN of Iowa. They will not have to b paid in the Mr. GOOD. It is all one building. It is where the old Ar· future? lington Hotel stood, now occupied by the War Risk Insurance. Mr. GOOD. No. A wing has not been completed yet, and that is designated as :Mr. BYRNES of South Carolina. If the gentleman will look " the annex." on page 106, he will find an illustration of these accounts, where Mr. WALSH. I withdraw the reservation, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Beatty says that an account which did not involve a "Very .The CHA.IRMAN. The point of order is withdrawn, and the large sum of money might involve 20,000 people. He says: Clerk will read. It may be a cantonment proposition somewhere on the cost-plus plan, The Clerk read as follows : and it might not invulve so much money on any one particular project, but there are all of the pay rolls, and I must see that the pay rolls are OFFICE OF AUDITOR FOR WAR DEPA.RTUE~T. properly signed or that a receipt by the men who worked on the job The unexpended balance Of the appropriation of $100,000 for addi is given, and It might involve 20,000 people, even though the amount of tional employees contained in the "second deficiency appropriation act, money might not he so large. 1919," is reappropriated 'for the fiscal year 1920. It was stated that the accounts coming back from the other Mr. GOOD. Mr~ Chairman, I offer an amendment. side will fill three large freight cars. This office audits all those The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Iowa offers an amend accounts. So far as I am concerned, I wanted him to do this ment, which the Clerk will report. just as rapidly as possible, and in examining the representative The Clerk read as follows : of the office in the committee I expressed the desire to know just Amendment offered by Mr. Uooo: Page 18, line 14, after the word how many clerks he needed in order to have his office catch up "balance," insert "on June 30, 1919." with his work so that there might be no unpaid claims of soldiers The CHAIRMAN. The question is on agreeing to the amend- among these claims in his office. ment. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman has expired. The amendment was agreed to. The Clerk read as follows: The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. The limitation in the sundry civil appropriation act for the fiscal year The Clerk read as follows: 1919 as to the number of delivered sheets of United States currency, For reimbursement of certain customs laborers at the port of New national-bank notesJ.. and Federal reserve currency to be executed is in York for expenses for meals and car fares at unusual hours, incurred creased from 123,0u0,000 to 129,000,000, of opium orders and special in connection with the emer~ency guarding of German and Austrian tax stamps required under the act of December 17, 1914, from G87,300 to vessels, piers, and the appraisers' warehouse during the period from 725,000, and of checks, drafts, and miscellaneous work from · 5,052,800 February to .August, 1917, inclusive, $910.15. to 1~,452,800. Mr. GREEN of Iowa. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous con The CHA.IRMAN. The Chair desires to cull the attention of sent to return for a moment to a paragraph on the preceding t11e gentleman from Iowa to a typographical error in line 23, ou page, entitled "Office of Auditor for the War Department," for page 19, where there is a period instead of a comma. the purpose of asking a question. :Mr. GOOD. I a. k unanimous consent that the Clerk change The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Iowa asks unanimous the period in line 23, after the figure ·7, and that he in ert a consent to return to the preceding page for the purpose of offer comma instead. ing an amendm~nt. Is there objection? The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the There was no objection. gentleman from Iowa? Mr. GREEN of Iowa. Mr. Chairman, I obsen·e in the hear Tl1ere was no objection. ings a statement of the Auditor for the ·war Department to the Mr. 'VINGO. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last effect that he has the enormous amount of $6,000,000,000 of word. In the reading of the bill just now the words " Federal unaudited claims in his department, and the statement is some. reserve notes" suggested to my mind the fear that some Mem what alarming to me. Does the gentleman know what that is bers have, which was expre sed in private converNation by them for? after they listened to the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. FEss] 1\fr. GOOD. I can only say that there-has been appropriated, the other day, that the Federal Reserve ·Board is permitting as the gentleman knows, about $24,000 000,000 for the Military an undue inflation of Federal reserve notes. There are a good Establishment, and that the work thro·wn upon this department many achie"Vements of this country during the war of which has been enormous. we can be proud. While not the greatest achievement, I think The auditing of the claims has been delayed because of a great it is·a great achievement the way this board met the situation many circumstances. Some of the auditing was done abroad. during the last few years. Instead of being alarmed over the Some of it had to be done there, some of it had to be done here, volume of Federal reserve notes outstanding I think we should and the work hns been accumulating. As far a this item is be very much gratified that the board has been able to l{eep concerned, my recollection is that there is a balance of about the "VOlume as low as it is. In tead of there being a continued $45,000 that he has not expended this year or \Yill not expend, increase of Federal reserve notes there are decreases being and he carries that over for next year so as to permit him to made in the volume, and I think if the l\Iembers of the House catch up with this work. Congress has been giving him an ad knew the Federal Reserve Board as I do they would not · b~ ditional force. My recollection is that the legislative bill for fearful of their overlooking the dangers of inflation. The next year carries quite an addition to that force. board have been aware of the effect of an increased "Volume of The auditing of a claim depends upon getting information Federal re erve bank notes, but there are some evils that are frow a great many different sources at times, and therefore they greater than an inflation of the currency. The Federal Re are held up, and there has been a great deal of complqint with serve Board had to meet certain situations during the war, and regard to the claims of relatives of deceased soldiers. These I believe it is nothing but fair to them to say that, free from matters have been held up quite a while, and the auditor has any partisan thought, they handled the problems that con explained tllat to the committee. He feels that he is doing the fronted that board during the war in such a way that I think best he can under the circumstances, and that ·in the near future when the future history of this country comes to be written he \vill· be able to bring his accounts somewhat nearer to the it will be said that one of the most remarkable achievements of current date. the war period of the United States was the achie"Vement of Mr. GREEN of Iowa. The gentleman will find the statement the Federal Reserve Board in maintaining the financial itu to which I refer on page 101 of the hearings-- ation in this country as stable as it was and as it is now. 1\Ir. GOOD.. ·About $6,000,000,000. On November 16, the n~arest date after the signing of the Ur. GREEN of Iowa. From which it appears that thete are armistice as to which we have exact information, there were in something like $6,000,000,000 of unaudited accounts. I was not round figures $2,562,000,000 of Federal reser"Ve notes outstand· complaining so much of the work of the auditor, who gives a ing. On April 25 there were ., 2,549,000,000 outstanding. That fairly satisfactory e::~..-planation of why he is so much behind, but shows a small n.et reduction. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 415 Department and the claimants, an<} in amounts not exceeding those which I want to call the attention of the Members of the House to are enumerated and scheduled in House Document No: 17'35, parts 2 the fact that in April,. when the Federal reserve banks had out and 3, of the Sixty-fifth Congress, third session, $852,106.49. standing notes to the. sum of $2,549,000,000, they, at that time, Mr. .WALSH. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order. held paper in their vaults, bills which they had discounted for What authority of law is there for settling these claims. I member banks throughout the country, secured by Government knew there had been an investigation, but I did not recall any war obligations. to the extent of $1,760,()(){),000. In other words, act authorizing the settlement and payment of the claims. gentlemen, there is a great volume of Federal reserve notes Mr. GOOD. The act of November 4, 1918, carried this pro outstanding that have been issued for the very necessary pur vision: pose of taking care of the war paper of the Government. Now, Claims occasioned by explosions and fire at plant of the T. A. Gil I think that the only· hope you can have for a healthy deflation lespie Co., Morgan, N. J.: The Secretary of Wm· is directed to con- - of the currency is going tq come from the retirement of bills sider, ascertain, and determine the amounts due on all claims for dam that the Federal reserve banks have had to rediscount for mem ages to and loss of private property occasioned by the recent explosions and fire at the plant of the T. A. Gillespie Co., at Morgan, N. J., and ber banks. In other words, member banks have loaned money report the amounts so ascertailied and determined to be due the claim to :rou and me to buy Government bonds. The only way you are ants to Congress within two months from the date of the approval of going in a substantial way to decrease that further inflation of this act. the currency is by you and me saving and retiring the debt we In pursuance of that act we have already appropriated two owe for bonds out of our savings. When we do that we will hundred and sixty-eight thousand and some odd dollars. The remove that part of the inflation of our currency. former third deficiency bill carried $714,813.58. Since that time Some experts estimate that that can be done in 8 or 9 months. the Secretary of War has certified that he has adjusted and I do not believe it. Some say that it will take 10 years, and settled claims to the extent of $137,292.91. I believe the gentleman from Ohio said that it would be 10 Mr. WALSH. Well, if he has settled a lot of these claims he yeal's.' But, to sum it up, the great bulk of the inflation of Fed must have done it under some other provision of law than the eral reserve notes was brought about by the war necessity and paragraph that the gentleman has read, because the Secre handling war obligations of the Government. The banks ex tary of War was only to consider and ascertain the amount due tended the customers' credit to buy bonds and the Federal re and report the amounts to. Congress. There is no authority of se.t·ve banks rediscounted the hills of the member banks to secure law in that act for the Secretary to go up to New .Jersey and the one billion seven htrndl'ed million war obligations to the determine these amounts due and make settlement and tllen Government. come in and ask for an appropriation in a deficiency bill. The CHAIRMANr The time of the gentleman has expired. The purpose of reporting it to Congress I assume was so lUr. ROSE. I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman may that Congress might pass upon those claimS and authorize some hav-e one minute more, in which I may ask him a question. body to settle. The. Cl!A.IRMAN., Is there objection? Mr. GOOD. The matter has been treated a little differently Tllere was no objection. from tl1e course outlined by the gentleman from Massachu 1\lr. ROSE. 1\.Ir. Chairman, I would like to ask the gentle setts [1\fr. WALSH]. The act of February 25, 1919, carries an man if he does not think that the banks themselves are respon appropriation of $268~211.26., and when the third deficiency act sible for the condition he refers to~ for the reason that they in was under consideration the committee had before it the certifi vite WhiJP the provision for the payment of the bonus was under consid Mr. WASON. l\Ir. Chairman, I move to strike out the last eration by the Congress this department began its preparation for the payment, and as soon as it became reasonably certain that the bonus word. 1\fr. Chairman, I rise for the purpose of asking the chair.: would !Je at a ftRt rate of $60 for officers and enlisted men alike a man of the committee a question, which is this: In the report requisition was ma(ie on the Treasury Department for specially printed from the Committee on Appropriations, on page 2, it says: checks for use in the payment of the bonus. It was then necessary to devise forms of abstracts on which payments should be listed, and, The previous bill carried the following provision : under 'freasury regulations, it was necessary to secure the approval "The amount of the unexpended balance of the appropriation 'Gen of the Comptroller of the '.freasury before the form could be used. It eral appropriations, Quartermaster Corps, fiscal year 1919,' required to was also necessary to secure from the Comptroller of the Treasury a be covered into the Treasury by the 'second deficiPncy appropriation act. decision covering the conditions of discharge which would warrant the 1919,' is reduced from $2,996,414,707.14 to $2,167,039,412.04." payment of the ··6o bonus. . Or a difference of $829,375,295.10. In place of that to which I Immediately after the actual passage of the act instructions were sent uy telegram and cable to all commanding officers authorizing the have just referred the present bill carries the clause whlch the payment of the bonus with the final pay at the time of discharge on Clerk has just read, under title " l\Hlitary Establishment." I uml after February 26, 19Hl, and steps were immediately taken to assemble the personnel required to establish an entirely new section of would like to ask the chairman to explain just what the clause this oflice for rhc bundling of the bonus claims. Approximately one in the present bill means, with reference to the clause read or ~llld one-i:J.alf million men had been discharged from the Army between referred to in the second deficiency appropriation bill for the Aprtl 6, 1917, and February 24, 1919, the date on which the revenue act was approved, and consequently a force of several hundred people last year. was r equired to perform th€ work. As a nucleus of this force several l\lr. GOOD. The sum of $7,000,000,000 of the appropriations experiC'nccd clerks were transferred from other branches and sections which had been previously made for the Military Establishment of the office, and all the typists and clerks who could possibly be ob tained by transfer or appointment were immediately employed. It was, were repealed by the second deficiency act, 1919 ; contract au of course, necessary to train the new personnel, and naturally the work thorizations were also repealed. It is ascertaine · The CHAIRMA1\~ Tl!::! pro· forma amendment is withdrawn. · · The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Massachusetts asks The Clerk will rent1. unanimous consent that his time be extended two minutes. Is The Clerk read a3 follo\YS : there objection? There was no objection. OUES, METAI. S, AND MINERALS. Mr. LONGWORTH. How is it possible to pay that large sal The :;um of $41,500,000 of the unexpended balance of the appropria ary of $10,000 without any legislative authority for it? tion heretofore made for carrying out the provisions of the act entitled is "An act to provide further tor the national security and defense by Mr. WALSH. I assume that the only authority is i".lat it encouraging thP production, conserving the supply, and controlling the an item of expense in connection with the duties of the Secre distribution of those ores, metals, and minerals which have formerly tary of the Interior in determining and adjusting these claims. been largely imported, or of which there is or may be an inadequate Mr. LONGWORTH. Does the law provide for a commission supply," approved October 5, 1918, shall be covered into the Treasury immediately upon the passage of this act. to assist him? Mr. WALSH. There is nothing in the law that I have found . Mr. WALSH. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last or can find authorizing the delegation of that d.uty to any new word. appointees. The CHAIRl\IAN. The gentleman from Massachusetts moves Mr. LONGWORTH. Why, then, make the distinction in favor to strike out the last word. of a civilian as against a former Member of this body or another Mr. WALSH. This item was in the last bill, as I understand body? Why pay this distinguished civilian more than we are it, but it carried only $40,000,000. Is that correct? paying those who are technically and quite properly termed lame Mr. GOOD. Yes. ducks? Mr. WALSH. It has been increased to $41,500,000. Mr.'WALSH. I have no official information upon that, except Mr. GOOD. That is the amount repealed. that the gentleman knows that sin~e 1913 the country has had Mr. WALSH. That is the amount covered into the Treasury? inflicted upon it vast numbers of commissions and boards that . Mr. GOOD. That is the amount covered into the Treasury. have been fearfully and wonderfully constituted. Mr. WALSH. That leaves $8,500,000 in the Treasury to I assume that it is to keep up that sort of a thing that they operate? · fixed the salaries of compensation without rhyme or reason. Mr. GOOD. Yes. Mr. TOWNER. Mr. Chairman, I am glad to inform the gen Mr. '\V ALSH. Does that $8,500,000 take care of the salaries tleman from Ohio that Philip N. Moore, who is the civilian serv of the people engaged in adjusting these claims? ing on the commission, is one of the most efficient engineers in Mr. GOOD. It is available for salaries, I suppose. the United States. When I heard of his appointment I was very Mr. WALSH. It might be interestin'g to lrnow that under glad, indeed, because I was surprised that he would serve at all. some authority, probably contained between the lines of the act I presume it would be necessary that at least there should be one approved March 2, 1919, the Secretary of the Interior has expert on the commission. I assure the gentleman that no better appointed a commission the membership of · which embraces choice could be made than that of Mr. Moore. the names of one or two gentlemen who had distinguished Mr. '\V ALSH. I doubt whether Mr. Moore knows anything careers in this body and also in the other branch of the legis more about it than the former Member of the Hous~. Mr. Foster, lative department of the Government. I notice that the Hon. who has been chairman of the Committee on Mines and Mining. John F. Shafroth and the Hon. Martin D. Foster have been ap Mr. GOOD. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last pointed. as two members of this commission, together with word. In answer to the gentleman from Ohio the law provides Mr. Philip N. Moore. I notice further from the hearing that in Thirty-fifth Statutes at Large, page 1027: the appointment of the ·first two dates from March 6, 1919, at SEc. 9. '.rhat hereafter no part of the public moneys, or of any ap propriation heretofore or hereafter made uy Congress, shall be used for $750 per month, and that of Mr. Philip N. Moore from March 14, the payment of compensation or expenses of any commission, council, 1919, at the rate of $10,000 per annum. Here, apparently, the board, or other similar body, or any members thereof, or for expenses present administration has set a new fashion in the appointment in connection with any work or the results o! any work or action of any commission, council, board, or other similar body, unless .the crea of commissions. The appointments are" for the period required tion of the same shall be or shall have been authorized by law; nor to examine and settle the claims." Of· course, this commission shall there be employed by detail, hereafter or heretofore made, or other will act with great haste, probably equaling that of the com wise, personal · services from any executive dppartment or other Gov ernment establishment in conn~ction with any such commission, council, mission appointed by the department, which settled claims for board, or other similar body. damages occurring in October, 1918, so that payments were made in the spring of 1919. I can not believe that the Secretary has in. fact appointed a commission. I do not believe that is what has been done. I Mr. BYRNS of Tennessee. Will the gentleman yield? think the persons are serving as employees. I think the ap-· Mr. WALSH. I yield to the gentleman from Tennessee. pointees, while referred to as a board or commission, are really 1\Ir. BYRNS of Tennessee. I want to say for the information serving as employees of the department. of the gentleman-and I know for his gratification-that I un Mr. LONGWORTH. '\Vould the gentleman construe that act derstand this commission expects to conclude its work very as · permitting the Secretary to pay one man the whole appro rapidly. Their hearings are to begin June 7. They expect to priation? go through the West and conduct these hearings on all of these Mr. GOOD. I imagine it would give him the power to secure claims, as I understand it, and to complete the hearings within personal services. The act provides for the payment of ex about two months, and upon their return to Washington quickly penses incurred by the Secretary, including personal services, settle all these claims; so I do not think the gentleman is war traveling, subsistence, and other expenses in the proper prosecu ranted in his conclusion that any great delay will be incurred tion of the work, both in the District of Columbia and elsewhere. by this commission. Certainly it will take no longer to adjudi Mr. LONG'\VORTH. He could pay one man $100,000, if he cate the claims after the hearings are concluded. than it will to saw fit? I think that is extremely loose legislation. conduct the hearings. Mr. BYRNS of Tennessee. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman read Mr. 'VALSH. Mr. Chairman, I assume that the gentleman is the law under which the Secretary of the Interior acted, as I familiar with the hearings on this bill. He knows that although understand, in appointing these three gentlemen to act as a the appointments were made very shortly after the adjournment board or a commission or whatever you may choose to call it to of the last session of Congress, at the time those hearings were take t~ necessary proof, adjudicate the claims, and report to held before the Committee on Appropriations, on the 20th day the Secretary. You may call it a commission or call them of the present month, some two months and a half after their merely employees'; they are clearly authorized by the statute appointment, no claims had been paid or allowed, and there were which the gentleman just read. about 500 claims which had been filed. The act did not undertake to limit the amount of salary that 1\Ir. LONGWORTH. Will th.J gentleman yield? should be paid, but I take it if the record was investigated it 1\Ir. WALSH. I yield to the gentleman from Ohio. would be found that the gentleman from Ohio, just :1s I greatly reduced alary roll up to the 30th of June; and now priations, their organization will be dissipated and disbanded; what I wanted to uggest to the gentleman is this: Realizing they will have no organization in any of the States of this it is subject to a point of order, I wanted to ask the gentleman, Union.· The result will be that after the legislatton is adopted in the interest of .good administration, in the interest of per- it will be necessary, at great expense to the Go,-ernment, to mitting this department, if Congress does not pass a law e1·eat- build up a new ·and complete organization. ing a depa rtment, to wind up its business in an orderly way. Now, the gentleman from Texas has complaineu becau e an Mr. BLANTON. Will the gentleman yield for two short order went forth, as he says, to deprive certain constituents questions? of his of positions after be had taken his position here upon l\Ir. GOOD. Yes. the floor of the House with reference to this appropriation. I l\fr. BLANTON. Has Director Densmore withdrawn and want to say to the gentleman that there were several offices eliminated the agencies in the gentleman's district? in the State of Tennessee, from which I come, which were Mr. GOOD. The agencies in the district I represent have discontinued after the appropriation went out of the deficiency been taken over, I think-! have not examined it-by the local Inll at the last session, for the simple r eason that the director boards of trade, and so forth. did not have the money with which to continue those offices ; Mr. BLANTON. Now, the second question. and I dare say that, in spite of the unjust personal attack l\fr. GOOD. I think there is an agency existing at Des which the gentleman from Texas made upon the director and l\Ioines. his work, he was actuated in what was done in Texas only by l\fr. BLANTON. Does the gentleman know how many thou- the fact that he did not have money enough to continue those sands of dollars of the money of this Government Mr. Dens- offices. more, the director of this Employment Service, w1asted in an lli. BLANTON. l\lr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? effort to get Mooney, a convicted felon, released from California lli. BYRNS of Tennessee. Yes; I yield. law and justice? Does the gentleman know how much of this Mr. BLANTON. I will state to the gentleman from Ten- $272,000 that you propose to give him, more than the $1,543,400 nessee that the State of Texas to-day can take care of every he already has, that he may yet waste in trying to· get' Mooney idle laborer in the United States and furnish labor in the released from California justice? Does the gentleman know? wheat and oats fields of Texas. l\fr. GOOD. The amount is reduced now to such a low sum Mr. BYRNS of Tennessee. Then the gentleman's State is I do not believe he can waste very · much, if anything. The very fo-rtunate, because it is not true with respect to many of amount before, as the gentleman can see, was estimated as the other States of the Union. I want to say to the gentle- . $1,800,000--almost $2,000,000---and he will now only have avail- man that the need of service of this kind was considered so able, with cash on hand, $347,000. I was only appealing to the important in my State that, when Congress failed to make the good judgment of the gentleman from Texas to withdraw his appropriation last March necessary to carry on this work until point of order so that the department can exist until time is July 1, the Legislature of the State of Tennessee appropriated given to see whether we could get legislation, or, if not, the $7,500 to supplement the fund in the State of Tennes ee and department be wound up in an orderly way. enable this activity to continue in behalf of the honorably ill s~ l\Ir. BLANTON. I would like to send him and his 513 pay- charged soldiers who have been in France fighting the battles roll drawers down to Texas and up into Iowa in order to let of our country and in the camps waiting to be sent over, and them help harvest the wheat crop and the oat crop, and thereby who are coming back here in need of the opportunity to obtain do some real service for their country. lucrative positions. [Applause.] The gentleman is denying to l\Ir. BYRNES of South Carolina. I wish to call the attention them the opportunity of knowing where to find lucrative -posi of the gentleman from Texas, who said he would possibly favor tions by making a point o:f order on this appropriation. legislation if brought in by a proper committee, that by grant- · .Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? ing the appropriation asked by the gentleman from Iowa this l\fr. BYRNS of Tennessee. Certainly. would be wound up and the committees of this House would l\!r. BLANTON. Does the gentleman know wily his legisla- have an opportunity to legislate. · ture did that? I will tell him. It did that for the same reason l\Ir. BLANTON. We have plenty of time. When a committee that my legislature met aild demanded that we support the wants to act it can act mighty quick. $10,000,000 appropriation-because Mr. Gompers asked them to l\!r. BYRNS of Tennessee. l\Ir. Chairman, I want to occupy do it. the floor for just a minute. Mr. BYRNS o! Tennessee. I will say to the gentleman ft·om The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman desire to discuss the Texas that we do not have legislatures of that kind in the State point of order? - of Tennessee. The Legislature of the State of Tennessee is not l\Ir. BYRNS of Tennessee. Yes. controlled by the demands of any individual, whether it be l\fr. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Tennessee is recog- Gompers or any other individual. They made the appropriation nized. . .. simply because in their judgment it was rendering·· an impor- l\fr. BYRNS of Tennessee. l\Ir. Chairman, in view of the tant service in the State of Tennessee, and they did not de ire very great personal feeling that the gentleman from Texas to see all the offices closed down and these discharged soldiers [l\1r. BLANTON] · has eXhibited against those who are in charge and sailors deprived of the opportunity of knowing where they of this bureau, I am very fearful that nothing I can say will can secure lucrative employment. induce him to withdraw his point of order. With his personal l\Ir. FORDNEY. Will the gentleman yield? feeling and with the personal controversy which I have noticed Mr. BYRNS of Tennessee. I yield to the gentleman. in the newspapers has been going on between the gentleman Mr. FORDNEY. I believe the gelltleman is in error when from Texas and certain officials in the labor organizations, of he states that there is a surplus of labor in the country. I do course I have nothing to do, and I do not propose to say any- not think that with a fine-toothed comb, if you will search the thing on that subject here. I had hoped that the gentleman country over, you will find a man out of employment who wants would permit this appropriation to go through without making employment. [Applause.] I know that I have appeals from all the point of order. So far as I am concerned, I am not alto- over the country stating that industries are running hort gether satisfied in my own mind that it is subject to a point handed because they can not find laborers; and that is not only of order. But I realize that after the very thorough discus- so in one industry but it is in every industry in the.land, espe sion held at the last session of Congress and the decision cially among the farmers of this country. which was rendered by my colleague from Tennessee [Mr. Mr. BYRNS of Tennessee. I will say to the gentleman that GARRETT], who, I think we will all admit, is one of the very I have no personal knowledge, but every day or two we see best parliamentarians in the House, the Chair is likely to fol- statements in the newspapers that there are many men unem low the precedent set by him. ployed in certain sections of the country. Now, granting that But I want to call this fact to the attention of the gentle· what the gentleman says is correct, that there is not a surplus man from Texas: He· has just admitted upon the floor of this of labor, there is undoubtedly a surplus of labor in certain sec House that he would support legislation· upon this subject be- tions of this country, I dare ~Y in many of the larger cities cause the President of the United States has requested and of this country or in certain particular portions of the country, recommended it. Now, there is, as was stated by the gentle- and if that be true, then we ought to have some agency to dis man from Iowa [Mr. Goon], a bill pending before the proper tribute that labor where it is needed, so that the country can legislative committee of this House seeking to enact legisla- get the benefit .of it. tion upon this subject. If that bill is reported, as in all prob- Mr. FORDNEY. I can also show the ·gentleman clippings ability it will be reported, very soon, the gentleman from Texas which I have from the State of Mississippi, which I visited just has indicated that he will give it his support. · ~few days ago, and statements were made there from the pulpit Now, if we deny to this organization or this activity the by the ministers, and those statements were influenced by the amount of mon~ recommended by the Committee on Appro- very men whom the gentleman from Texas speaks about, state- CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 423 ments that there are men looking for employment; yet at the war measure in the appropriation bill out of an emergency same time half the mills in that country are closed down or fund. running short-handed because of the scarcity of labor. It is a The CHAIRMAN. In view of the statement made by the propaganda paid for by the money exacted from the taxpayers chairman of the Committee on Appropriations that there is no of this country, preached from the pulpit, printed in the news- law for the establishment of the organization provided for in papers, and the newspapers paid to print it, by money taken the paragraph the -chair sustains the point of order. from the taxpayers, unjustly spent, instigated by the very ele- Mr. BANKHEAD. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent ment that the gentleman from Texas is talking about. It is not to address the House for five minutes out of order. true that there is a lack of employment. There is a scarcity of The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Alabama asks unani labor all oT"er this country, and it can not be otherwise. More mous consent to address the House for five minutes out of order. than a quarter of a million of our men have been killed or Is there objection? .wounded. TlJere has been no immigration to this country, there Mr. GOOD. Will not the gentleman postpone that until bas been a great emigration from this country, in the .Past after we complete the bill? four years, there has been a greater demand for labor, there Mr. BANKHEAD. No; I want to make it in connection with bas been greater production in the country, and then gentlemen wha.t has just been said. talk about a surplus of labor. It is folly; it is false; It is not Mr. GOOD. And the gentleman \\ill limit his remarks to true. [Applause.] five minutes. Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, I make tne point of order. Mr. BANKHEAD. I think five minutes will be sufflcient. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair reminds the gentleman that we The CHAIRMAN. The Chair ·hears no objection. are not now proceeding under the five-minute rule. The point Mr. BANKHEAD. Mr. Chairman, I did not intend to par- of order has been made, and the Chair would like to have some ticipate in the discussion of this appropriation bill. But I can information on the point of order. not give my own consent, feeling as I do on the great and vital Mr. GOOD. The ·point of order is pending, and I ask ft;>r the question of the real interests of labor and capital in the United regular order. States of .America, to allow to go absolutely unchallenged what I The OHAilllVIAN. Does the gentleman from Texas insist on regard as a very passionate and unjustified attack by the gen- his point of order? · tleman from Texas [Mr. BLANTON] on organized labor in this 1\Ir. BLANTON. I do. country in his speech a few minutes ago. 1\fr. BA.NKHEAD. I -ask the gentleman to re erve his point The President of the United Stutes, in his address deliYered to of order. Congress by a written message a few days ago, emphasized as 1\Ir. BLANTON. At the request of the gentleman from Ala- the matter of paramount importance for the consideration of the bama, I reserve the point of order. Congress, in this reconstruction Congress, .as it has been called, The· OIIAIRMAN. The point of order has been made, and this very problem, and uses this language: the Chair is entitled to hear a discussion 11pon the point of order. The question which stands ut the front of all others in every country Mr. BLANTON. I should like to open that discussion with a amidst the present great awakening is the question of labor; and per haps I can speak of it with a.s great advantage while engros ed in the few remarks. consideration of interests which affect all countries n.like as I could at The CHAIRMAN. The_gentleman has spoken several times, home and amidst the interests which naturally -most aJfect my thought, and discussion on a point of order is within limitations to be because they 11re the interests of our own people. By the question of labor I do not mean the question of efficient 'indus fixed by the Chair. The Ohair will endeavor to hold gentlemen trial production, the question of how labor is to be obtained n.nd made discussing. the point of order to the five-minute rule. cllective in the great process of sustaining populations and winning Mr. DYER. A parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Chairman. success amidst commercial and indn,strial rivalries. I mean that much greater and more vital question, how are the men and women who do The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will state it. the daily labor of the world to obtain progressive improvement in the Mr. DYER. I understand the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. conditions of their labor, to be made happier, n.nd to be served better by Goon], chairman of the committee, has in effect conceded the ~;_a~~~~unities and the industries which their 1abor sustains and ·point of order. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Iowa did state that, • I will not attempt to elaborate that suggestion. The President but then the point of order was reserved, and the whole question goes on and says: · f di · Whi1 th di · We must see to it that our returning soldiers are assisted in every thrown open agrun or scusswn. e e SCUSSlOn was practicable way to find the places .for which they are fitted in the daily going on the gentleman from Texas was making up his mind, un- work of the country. This can be done by developing and maintaining der the reservation of the point of order, whether he would make upon an adequate scale the admirable orgn.nization created by the De . t t H h d · t d th C'h ~ · · illi t h partmen t of Labor for placing men seeking work ; and it can also be · I or no . · e as now rna e 1 ' an e :unlr lS W ng 0 ear done, in at least one very great field, by creating new opportunities for · him upon the point of order, and asks the gentleman to confine individual enterprise. himself to that. The gentlemen from Texas professes to be a friend and ad- l\1r. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, I take it the parliamentary mirer of the President of the United States, but here the Presi status is as follows: The chairman ~f the committee, Mr. GoOD, dent in his appeal to the Congress of the United States places ;who is recognized as a parliamentarian in this House, has con- this question of labor and the interests of organized labor as ceded that the point of order is good. paramount for the consideration of Congress and suggests that The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will ask the gentleman from instead of enlarging and increasing the antagonism between Texas this question: Does the gentleman contend that there is no capital and labor ~at we use of our talents here to harmonize law for the insertion of this paragraph in the bill? . these interests into a _status -of partnership and cooperation. 1\lr. BLANTON. There is .no law whatever, Mr. Chairma,n, The President urges the retention of the Employment Bureau authorizing this appropriation, and the chairman of the Ap- as one of the great means to accomplish. that end, and yet the · propriation Committee will not contend otherwise. gentleman from Texas seeks to destroy it by making captious The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will ask the gentleman from and technical points of order against the appropriation. Iowa to speak upon that point. The Chair assumes that the If the gentleman feels as he professes him3elf toward the :gentleman from Iowa does not contend that the insertion of a President of the Unitea States, I appeal to him even at this \provision in an appropriation bill, after ·the purposes of the late moment to withdraw his point of order. !.bill have been effected, for the period of a year, gives authority Mr. BLANTON. Will the gentleman yield? "t.or the insertion of a new parno"Taph in another appropriation Mr. BANKHEAD. No; I have only five minutes. 1·bill? Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, I make a point of ord'er. 1\:Ir. GOOD. No; I do not. If the item carried in the bill was The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will state it. 1:subject to a point of order and there was no authorization for Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, I ask that the words of the ~ it, the mere fact that it was carried for one year would not make gentleman be taken down, when he_says that I was captious. I lt permanent law. made the point of order in absolutely good faith, and I ask that The CHAIRJ\IAN. Provision is made in the paragraph for the llis words be taken do\\"'11 when he says that I made it captiously maintenance of the present organization under provisions made and without reason. · 'in the civil-service act approved July 1, 1918. What warrant of The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman insist upon that point law is there for the establishment of that organization therein of order? referred to? Mr. BLANTON. I have no chance to answer that, and if the 1\fr. GOOD. None at all, except in the appropriation bill. gentleman proceeds in abuse, I do ask. it. If he will leave the The CHAIRMAN. There is no warrant of law for it?. abuse out of his. gpeech and confine. himself to good argument, 1\fr. GOOD. I do not think so. There are those, however, I haT"e no objection. who contend that there is. Others contend that there is not. The CHAIRMAN. ~he gentleman from Alabama will pro-. There is no authority in the law creating the Department of ceed in order. Labor, or in any amendment to that law, that creates this 1\Ir. BANKHEAD. Mr. Chairman, I submit to the Chair.thatj serYice or makes provision for carrying it on, except as a I I was proceeding in order._ 424 .CONG-RESSIONAL_~ECOR . D-HOUSE. MA,y 29, The CHAIRMAN. The Chair simply res_tates the proposition. only had $60,000,000 of property, including $11,000,0~ of cash, Mr. BANKHEAD. Mr. Chairman, I want to say, further, and that the $40,000,000 had not been touched, and that would that I am unwilling to let go unchallenged the statements made by be covered back into the Treasury. the distinguished gentleman from Texas [Mr. BLANTON] when Mr. ALMON. 'Vould the gentleman kindly explain brie:tly the he stated that ... anarchy prevails in and dominates the labor nature and the character of the Housing Bureau's activities at organizations of this country." I challenge and repudiate that this time? .accusation as wholly without foundation and as a cruel injustice Mr. GOOD. Oh, the Housing Bureau has a great many activi to the hundreds of- thousands of laboring men in this country ties aside from the dormitories that it is conducting here in who are affiliated with organized labor. Their loyalty and Washington. They are conducting restaurants, rooming houses patriotism needs no defense at my hands. They proved it in and everything of that kind. the trying days of our late national peril: Organized labor J.\.fr. ALMON. I mean in the way of house construction. Has does not· stand for anarchy; on the contrary, it is the deadly it ceased to function in the way of the construction of houses? enemy of the I. W. W. and Bolshevism, and intends to assert Mr. GOOD. Houses under construction have been completed its just rights within the law and under the law. Every sensi to the extent of 98 per cent. ble man, every thoughtful man in this House, every man who is~ The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the pro forma amend- anxious about the future in this country from an industri.al and ment will be withdrawn. social standpoint, must recognize the truth and wisdom of the There was no objection. remarks of the President of the United States, that this is one The Clerk read as follows: of the real, paramount, and vital questions for the Congress of Charles A. Sulzer, $2,000. the United States in its deliberations. Mr. GOOD. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows : The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendment. For refund of head tax paid on account of 81 aliens in transit The Clerk read as follows : through the United States, whose departure therefrom after the· period prescribed by the immigration regulations was caused by interrupted Paf?e 44, line 11, after the sum " $2,000," insert "which sum s~all passenger sailings to Europe incident to war conditions, $648. be paid to his estate." . Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last The CHAilll\I.A1'f. The question is on the amendment. word. I want my distinguished friend from Alabama-- The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. Mr. GOOD. Mr. Chairman, I shall have to ask that the gen- Mr. WASON. I move to strike out the last word. I would tleman confine his remarks to the item under consideration. like to ask the chairman of the committee a question in reference Mr. BANKHEAD. To the argument here? to line 3. Mr. GOOD. To the item under discussion. · Mr. GOOD. To pay to the widow of Charles August Sulzer? Mr. BLANTON. Does the chairman expect me to sit here Mr. WASON. Yes; I understand there was a contest ·and Mr. idly by and let my good friend from Alabama put things in the Sulzer died before the certificate of election was issued to him. RECORD without any reply whatever? I do not object to the payment at the proper time, if Mr. Sulzer Mr. GOOD. I must insist that the gentleman confine himself would have been entitled to a seat. It seems to me at this time to the paragraph under discussion. that we ought to wait and ascertain what the fact is. I am in Mr. BLANTON. I think the gentleman will save time to let formed by the Clerk that there is a notice of a contest in his me speak for five minutes-not to hold me to the usual rule. office. Mr. DYER. Mr. Chairman, I demand the regular order. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will say to the gentleman from Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, I make the point of order New Hampshire the amendment has been agreed to and that there is no quorum present. unless-- · The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas makes the Mr. WASON. I am not referring to that; that relates to a point of ·order that there is no quorum present. The Chair will contest in the last session. c~mnt. [After counting.] One hundred members present, a The CHAIRMAN. What is the gentleman's motion? quorum. Mr. W ..:\.SON. I am merely making an inquiry of the chair- Mr. BLANTON. Mr. Chairman, I ask for tellers on that. man with regard to line 3. · The CHAIRMAN. There is no question of tellers upon the Mr. GOOD. I will say to the gentleman from New Hamp announcement of the Chair that a quorum is present. The shire that had 1\!r. Sulzer lived until this time he would have Clerk will read. been entitled to ·a seat in this House with all the privileges which · The Clerk read as follows: a Delegate has in the House, and if he had died then he would The Secretary of Labor is authorized to make settlement for $11.85 have died while a Delegate in the House. He died as a Delegate from the appropriation for expenses of regulating immigration for the elect to the House, and until that contest had been decided he fiscal year 1919, in payment for advertising erroneously ordered with would have been a Delegate in the House, and in case of his out previous compliance with the terms of section 3828 of the Re~sed death his widow would have been entitled, under the broad Statutes. · spirit which has always prevailed in. this House, to this appro Mr. BLANTON. :Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last priation. It is a mere gratuity, and. the committee thought that word. When my distinguished friend from Alabama-- we would not consider that condition. Mr. GOOD. Mr. Chairman, I make the point of order that · The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the pro forma amend- the..gentleman is not speaking to his amendment. ment is withdrawn. -- The CHAIRMAN. The point of order is well taken, and the 1\lr. ALMON. Mr. Chairman, I ha-ve been informed that the gentleman will proceed in order. certificate of election was really issued prior to l\lr. Sulzer's 1\lr. BLANTON. I think we ought to have a quorum present. death, but it was probably on account of l\1r. Sulzer's absence Mr. GOOD. I make the point of order that that point is dila and sickness tl1at he had not heard of the issuance of the tory. certificate. Mr. BLANTON. Other business has transpired. The Clerk read as follows : CHAIR~IAN. The The Chair sustains the point of order, and JUDGME-NTS IN INDIAN DEPREDATION CLAIMS. the Clerk will read. For payment of the judgment rendered by the Court of Claims in an The Clerk read as follows : Indian depredation case, certified to the Sixty-fifth Congress, third The sum of $40,000,000 of the unexpended balance of the appropria session, in Senate Document No. 427, $300; said judgment to be paid tions heretofore made for carrying out the provisions of the act entitled after tile deductions required to be made under the provisions of section "An act to authorize the President to provide housing for war needs," 6 of the act approved March ·3, 1891, entitled "An act to provide for approved May 16, 1918, shall be covered into the Treasury immediately the adjustment and payment of claims arising .from Indian depreda upon the passage of this act. tions," shall have been ascertained and duly certified by the Secretary of the Interior to the Secretary of the Treasury, which certification 1\fr. ALMON. 1\Ir. Chairman, I move to strike out the last shall be made as soon as practicable after the passage of this act an(] word in order to ask the chairman of the committee as to the such deductions shall be made according to the discretion of the Secre tary of the Interior, having due regard to the educational an 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 425 Mr. GOOD. I think the proviso is superfluous. I think lines Mr. GARRETT. The paragraph has already been passed. 19 and 20 practically cover the same thing. Mr. SMITH of Idaho. I .was under the impre sion tba t the Mr. GARRETT. That "the right of appeal shall have ex bill was being read by sections, not paragraphs. pired." I was just wondering about the necessity for that. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is not raising the question, ex Mr. GOOD. · I think it is superfluous because under lines 19 cept to mention that the paragraph has been passed. and 20 it could not be paid until the right of appeal had ex Mr. GARRETT. And it is subject to a point of order for that pired. reason. But, Mr. Chairman, I do not think the gentleman Mr. GARRETT. I withdraw the· reservation of the point of will want to insist upon that amendment. If the gentleman order and move to strike out the proviso beginning in line 15 will permit-- and ending with line 18. Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Either that amendment , boulc:l be The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendment. adopted· or the words " and employees " should be stricken The Clerk; read as ·follows: out. Employees have no official function to perform in com Page 49, strike out the proviso beginning in line 15 and ending in municating with Congress. line 18. Mr. GARRETT. They would have to send it through their Mr. GOOD. And put a period at the end of line 14 instead superiors, or whoever it might be. of a colon. Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Do you want to apply military rules The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. to civil employees of the Government, and provide that they The Clerk read as follows : shall have to communicate with Congressmen through their For Smithsonian Institution, preservation or collections, tional superior officers instead of direct? Museum, $2.60. lli. GARRETT. They do now. That is, in an official way. The CHAIRMAN. There is u. typographical error in line 4, Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Employees have no official function to page 54. The word "National" is not complete. perform in communicating with Congress. I think to prohibit Mr. GOOD. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to communications from employees except through official chan correct the error. nels is un-American. They have a. constitutional right to com The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the error referred to municate with their Representatives in Congress, without their will be corrected. letters passing through the hands of their superior officers, any The Clerk read as follows : suggestions they may have to offer. With a. view of ·clarifying Any officer or employee of the United States who, after notice and the language, I offered the amendment. hea"Trng by the superior officer vested with the power of removing him, The CHAIRMAN. The question is on agreeing to the amend is held to have violated or attempted to violate this section, shall be removed by such superior officer from office or employment. Any ment. officer or employee of the United States who violates or attempts to Mr. GARRETT. If you say "in the discharge of their official violate this section shall also be guilty of a misdemeanor and on con duties," you limit them in the matter of the discharge of their viction thereof shall be punished by a fine of not more than $500 or by imprisonment for not more than one year, or both. official duties, and then the question immediately arises as to whether or not, in recommending legislation through their offi 1\Ir. WALSH. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last cials, employees are discharging their official duty. ·You are word. I would like to ask the gentl:eman a question. In line subjecting your official to all sorts of dangerous criticism, :mel 5, page 63, it says " with the power of removing him, is held perhaps worse, if you put in the words " in the discharge of his to have violated or attempted to violate this section." Would official duties," because · it might be held that when be recom it not be better if that word "held" were stricken out and the mended legislation he was not discharging any part of his offi word " found " substituted? cial duty at all. Mr. GOOD. I think that would be an improvement. Mr. WALSH. I offer an amendment to strike out the word Mr. SMITH of Idaho. A former President of the United " held," in line 5, page 63, and substitqte the word " found," States some years ago issued an Executive order that no em because this is ample notice in the hearing. ployee of the Government should communicate with a. Member The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Massachusetts offers of Congress concerning pu.blic business except through official an amendment, which the Clerk will report. channels, and it invited a great deal of criticism. It was very The Clerk read as follows : unfair and humiliating to the employees of the Government, and after several years a. law was passed permitting them to Amendment offered by Mr. WALSH: Page 63, line 5, strike out the word " held " and insert in lieu thereof the word " found." communicate with Members of Congress on official rna tters and abrogating the Executive order. Mr. ·wALSH. Mr. Chairman, I offer this because I think it is 1.\Ir. GARRETT. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? customary, after a hearing has been held upon alleged viola Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Yes. tion of law, to hold, when the determination is made, that it is lli. GARRETT. I heard that a. Federal judge had is ued. an a finding. You would not say a. "holding." So if it is made to injunction against an official of the Government of the Unitccl read "is found to have violated or attempted to violate this States communicating any information to Congress. I do not section" it would be better. know whether that is true or not. but I understood that The CHAIRl\1AN. The question is on the amendment offered occurred. by the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. WALSH]. The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. 1.\fr. SMITH of Idaho. I think this language is unfortunate, Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following in that it will have the effect that I mentioned unless my amendment. · amendment is adopted. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Idaho offers an Mr. DENISON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? amendment,· which the Clerk will report. Mr. SMITH of Idaho. Yes. The Clerk read as follows : Mr. DENISON. I will say to the gentleman from Idaho that I think all communications from public employees, where Amendment offered by Mr. ~!IIITH of Idaho: Page 62, line 24, after the words " United States," insert "in the discharge of their official they are using official funds, should be through official chan dnties." nels. This is a. limitation on the use of public funds. Mr. GOOD. I do not see any objection to that. 1.\fr. SMITH of Idaho. I agree with the gentleman, but the Mr. 'VAl,SH. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that use of these words, "official channels," .should not apply to the amendment be again reported. employees. The CHAIRl\lAN. 'Vithout objection, the amendment will 1.\:Ir. DENISON. No. I do not understand it that way. I take be again reported. it that it simply prohibits employees or officials of the Govern The amendment was again read. ment from using public funds in communicating to Congress. 1.\Ir. GOOD. I will say to the gentleman that in line 2, on Mr. SMITH of Idaho. I am in favor of that prohibition, page 63, the same tl1ing is carried-" which they deem necessary but I think we should either strike out the words " and em for the efficient conduct of the public business." I thought it ployees," who have no official function to perform in communi meant the same thing. cating with Congress, or else ·put in the explanatory words l\1r. SMITH of Idaho. I think the amendment I offer is suggested. necessary in order to explain the provision. Otherwise the Mr. DENISON. It is sometimes hard to tell what is an employees might be held to be viblating the penal section if employee arid what is an official. they should comn;unica.te with their Members of Congress, ex Mr. WALSH. Of course, Mr. Chairman, the gentleman's cept through official channels. amendment-- The CHAIRl\IAl'l. That paragraph has been read. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Idaho Mr. SMITH of Idaho. I know it has been read, but I am has expired. o.ffering an amendment. lli. SMITH of Idaho. Mr.. Chairman, I ask unanimous con . The CHAIRMAN. It h~s been passed. sent for an extension of five minutes. .426 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. }fAy 29, The CHAIRl\lAN. The gentleman _from Idallo asks an exten- , •far as it relntes to preference 1n ~employment of honorably discharged sion of five minutes. Is there objection? soldiers, sailors, and marines, be amended to read as follows · · There was no obJ"ection. "' 1;hat hereaft~ in making appointments -to clerical and. other posi- . -tions m the executiVe branch of the Government in the District of Co- J'.fr. WALSH. Mr. ·'Chairman, will the gentlemun JTicld? lum~ia .or ~ewhere pref~ence shall be giv~ to honorably discharged Mr. SMITH of Idnho. Certainly. soldLers, sallors, .a!>-d marmes, .and widows of such, if they are qualified Mr. \VALSH. I would like to direct the attention of .the gen- 'to hold such positions.'" tleman from Idaho to what seems to me to be an inconsistency in 1\Ir. DYER. Mr. Chairman, this amendment is the law as it his amendment. His amendment would prevent Government .now exists, with the exception of the words " or elsewhere. ' In officers or employees from communicating through proper official ..other words, it gi:ves the benefit of the provisions of this law to channels requests for legislation or appropriations whlch -they discharged soldiers, sailors, and marines to enter the Government deem neces ary for the efficient conduct of the public business. service wherever there may be an opportunity outside of the ·It -would pre\ent that, unless it was in the discharge of their Dis~ict of Columbia, 'Which it applies to now. I discussed it in official duties. Now, it might well be that an officer or employee - detail a few moi?e~ts ago. . . might want to recommend some action for the more efficient con- .I prepared this m consultation With the clerk of the Com duct of the Government's business, .and he could not do that · IDlttee on Appropriations. I think it is a -very necessary amend- unless it was in the discharge of his official duties. ment, and I ask 'for a vote. . Mr. SMITH of Idaho. .It is nil Tight for an o:ffi.cer to do that , Mr. GARRETT. If I understand correctly, while this refers but an employee has no such function to pe.tiorm officially of. to th.e census law, ~t really is ge~eral. in character. that character, and it will simply .hav.e a tendency, us I re- l\1r. DYER. It IS general legislation. marked, to dissuade the clerks -from expressing their opinions Mr. ~ARRETT. In ?ther words, that l~gisl~tion which was about the conduct of public -business through -their individual passed m the census bill was general leg1 latlon. It was not Members of The SPEAKER. Is there demand for a separate vote on any sissippi, for decorative and patriotic purposes; to the Committee amendment? on Military Affairs. There was no demand for a separate vote, and the amend- Also, a bill (H. R. 3861) donating a captured German cannon ments were agreed to. · or field gun and carriage to the county of Jackson, State of Mis The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, sissippi, for decorative and patriotic purposes; to the Committee was read the third time, and passed. on l\1ilitary Affairs. On motion of 1\lr. GooD, a motion to· reconsider the vote Also, a bill (H. R. 3862) donating a captured German cannon whereby the bill was passed was laid on the table. or field gun and carriage to the soldiers' home, Beauvoir, county LEAVE OF ABSENCE. of Harrison, State of Mississippi, for decorative and patriotic l\Ir. SHERWOOD, by unanimous com:ent, was given leave of ab purposes ; to the Committee on 1\fili tary Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 3863) donating a captured German cannon sence for two weeks, on account of sickness in his family. or field gun and carriage to the county of Hancock, State of Mis ADJOURNMENT. sissippi, for decorative and patriotic purposes; to the Committee l\Ir. GOOD. 1\fr. Speaker, I move that the House do now on Military Affairs. adjourn. Also, a bill (H. R. 3864) donating a captured German cannon The motion was agreed to; accordingly (at 6 o'clock and 22 or field gun and carriage to the county of Simpson, State of Mis minutes p. m.) the House adjourned until to-morrow, Friday, sissippi, for decorative and pah·iotic purposes; to the Committee l\Iay 30, 1919, at 12 o'clock noon. on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 3865) donating a captured German cannon EXECUTIVE COMl\fUNICATIONS, ETC. or field gun and carriage to the county of Lawrence, State of . Under clause 2 of Rule XXIV, executive communications were Mississippi, for decorative and patriotic purposes; to the Com taken from the Speaker's table and referred as follows : mittee on Military Affairs. 1. A letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, transmitting Also, a bill (H. R. 3866) donating a captured German cannon copy of a communication from the Secretary of Commerce sub or field gun and carriage to the county of George, State of Mis mitting a supplemental estimate of appropriation required by sissippi, for decorati-ve and patriotic purposes; to the Committee the Bureau of Fisheries for t)le Frurport (Iowa) biological on Military Affairs. station, fiscal year 1920 (H. Doc. No. 63) ; to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 3867) donating n captured German cannon Appropriations aild ordered to be printed. or field gun and carriage to the county of Stone, State of l\fi - 2. A letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, transmitting sissippi, for decorative and patriotic purposes ; to the Com copy of a communication from the chairman of the Committee mittee on Military Affairs. on Public Information, submitting an estimate of appropriations Also, a bill (H. R. 3868) donating a captured German cannon required by the Committee on Public Information for the ex or field gun and carriage to the county of Jefferson Davis, State pense of closing the work of the committee (H. Doc. No. 64) ; of Mississippi, for decorative and patriotic purposes; to the to the Committee on Appropriations and ordered to be printed. Committee on Military Affairs. 3. A letter from the Secretary of the Treas.ury, transmitting · Also, a bill (H. R. 3869) donating a captured German cannon copy of a communication from the Secretary of War, submit or field gun and carriage to the county of Pearl River, State of ting supplemental estimates of appropriations required for the Mississippi, for decorative and patriotic purposes ; to the Com Military Establishment and National Guard for the fiscal year mittee on Military Affairs. 1920 (H. Doc. No. 65) ; to the Committee on Military Affairs and By Mr. CARSS: A bill (H. R,. 3870) to provide for the erec ordered to be printed. tion of a public building at Cloquet, Minn. ; to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. PUBLIC BILLS, RESOLUTIONS, AND MEMORIALS. By Mr. ELLIOTT: A bill (H. R. 3871) providing one cap Under clause 3 of Rule XXII, bills, resolutions, and memorials tured German cannon for the town of Brookville, county of were introduced and severally referred as follows : Franklin, State of Indiana, as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, By Mr. DICKINSON of Missouri: A bill (H. R. 3850) au and marines of Franklin County, Ind., who participated in the thorizing the Secretary of 'Var to donate a captured German World War; to the Committee on Military Affairs. cannon to the city of Holden, 1\Io. ; to the Committee on Military Also, a bill (H. R. 3872) providing one captured German can Affairs. non for the city of Newcastle, county of Henry, State of In By Mr. RIDDICK: A bill (H. R. 3851) to provide for the erec diana, as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of tion of a Federal J:>uilding at Glasgow, Mont., and appropriating Henry County, Ind., who participated in the World War; to money therefor; to the Committee on Public Buildings and the Committee on Military Affairs. Grounds. . Also, a bill (H. R. 3873) providing one captured German can By Mr. WEBB : A bill (H. R. 3852) to provide a method for non for the city of Greenfield, county of Hancock, State of In disposing of intoxicating liquors now or hereafter in possession diana, as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of of United States court officials; to the Committee on the Ju Hancock County, Ind., who participated in the World 'Var; to diciary. the Committee on Military Affairs. By Mr. FAIRFIELD: A bill (H. R. 3853) authorizing the Also, a bill (H. R. 3874) providing one captured German can Secretary of War to donate to the town of St. Joe, county of non for the city of Connersville, county of Fayette, State of In Dekalb, State of Indiana, one German cannon or fieldpiece; to diana, as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of the Committee on Military Affairs. Fayette County, Ind., who participated in the World \Var · to By Mr. ESCil: A. bill (H. R. 3854) to repeal the daylight-sav the Committee on Military Affairs. ' ing law; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Also, a bill (H. R. 3875) providing one captured German can Also, a bill (H. R. 3855) to provide a division of tuberculosis non for the town of Liberty, county of Union, State of Indiana in, and an advisory council for, the United States Public Health as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of Unio~ Service, and for other purposes; to the Committee on Interstate County, Ind., who participated in the World War; to the Com and Foreign Commerce. mittee on Military Affairs. By Mr. THOMAS: A. bill (H. R. 3856) authorizing the s ·ecre Also, a bill (H. R. 3876) providing one captured German can tary of War to donate to the town of Russellville, county of non for the city of Richmond, county of Wayne, State of In Logan, State of Kentucky, one German cannon or fieldpiece; diana, as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of to the Committee on Military Affairs. Wayne Oounty, Ind., who participated in the World War; to Also, a bill (H. R. 3857) authorizing the Secretary of War to the Committee on Military Affairs. donate to the town of Glasgow, county of Barren, State of Ken Also, a bill (H. R. 3877) providing one captured German can tucky, one German cannon or fieldpiece; to the Committee on non for the city of Rushville, county of Rush, State of Indiana, Military Affairs. as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of Rush Also, a bill (H. R. 3858) authorizing the Secretary of War to County; Ind., who participated in the World War; to the Com donate to the town of Franklin, county of .Simpson, State of mittee on Military Affairs. Kentucky, one German cannon or fieldpiece ; to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 3878) providing one captured German can Military Affairs. non for the city of Shelbyville, county of Shelby, State of In By Mr. JOHNSON of Mississippi: A bill (H. R. 3859) donat diana, as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of ing a captured German cannon or field gun and carriage to the Shelby County, Ind., who participated in the World War; to the county of Lamar, State of Mississippi, for decorative and patri Committee on Military Affairs. otic purposes; to the Committee on Military Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 3879) provfding one captured German can Also, a bill (H. R. 3860) donating a captured German cannon non for the town of Knightstown, county of Henry, State of In or field gun and carriage to the county of Marion, State of Mis- diana, as a memorial to the soldiers, sailors, and marines of .428 CONGRESSION-AL RECORD-HOUSE . MAY 29, Knightstown, Ind., who participated in the World ·war; to the Also, a bill (H. R. 3901) making an appropriation for the Committee on Military Affairs. erection of a bridge from South Capitol Street to Poplar Point, By Mr. TAYLOR of Tennessee: A bill (H. R. 3880) donating in the District of Columbia ; to the Committee on the District of a captured German cannon or field gun, with carriage and pro Columbia. · jectiles, to tbe town of Lafollette, State of Tennes ee, for deco Also, a bill (H. R. 3902) making appropTiation for the opening rative and patriotic purposes; to the Committee on Military and grading of Firth Sterling Avenue, in the District of Colum Affairs. ' bia ; to the Committee on Appropriations. By Mr. RAKER: A bill (H. R. 3881) authorizing the Secre By Mr. NEELY: A bill (H. R. 3903) to amend an act entitled tary of War to donate to the city of Downieville, Calif., two "An act granting pensions to certain enlisted men, soldiers ana German cannon or fteldpieee , with their accompaniment ; to the officers, who served in the Civil War and the War with Mexico," Committee-on Military Affairs. , approved May 11, 1912, and for other purposes ; to the Committee Also, a bill (H. R. 3882) authorizing the Secretary of War to on Invalid Pensions. donate to the city of Angels Camp, Calif., two German cannons Also, a bill (H. R. 3904) to amend a;n act entitled "An act to or fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on establish in the War Department and in the Navy Depru:tment, Military Affairs. · respectively, a roll designated as' the Army and Navy medal of Al o, a 'bill {H. R. 3883) authorizing the Secretary of War to honor roll,' and for other purposes," approved April 27, 1916; to donate to the city of Cedarville, Calif.. two German cannons or the Committee on Military Affairs. fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on By Mr. KNUTSON: A bill (H. R. 3905) authorizing payment Mill tary Affairs. to certain Red Lake Indians, out of Chippewa Indian funds, for Al o, a bill {H. R. 3884) authorizing the Secretary of War to garden plots surrendered for school-farm use; to the Committee donate to the city of Adin, Calif., two German cannon.s or on Indian Affairs. fieldpieces, with their accompa~ents ; to the Committee on Also, a bill (H. R. 3906) to enlarge and extend the post-office · Military A.:f'fairs. building at St. Cloud, 1\!inn. ; to the Committee on Public Build Also, a bill (H. R. 3885) authorizing the Secretary of War to ings and Grounds. donate to the city of '\Veaverville, Calif., two German cannons By Mr. BURDICK: A bill (H. R. 3907) making an appropria or fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on tion for the extension of 1\fas.sachusetts Avenue in the District Mill tary Affairs. . of Columbia; to the Committee· on the District of Columbia. AJ o, a bill {H. R. 3886) authorizing the Secretary of War to By Mr. DRANE: A bill (H. R. 3908) authorizing and direct donate to the city of Anderson, Calif., two German cannons or ing the Secretary of War to donate to the town of New Port fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on Richey, Fla., one captured German cannon or fieldpiece, with Military A1Iairs. carriage, for decorative and patriotic purposes; to the Com Also, a bill (H. R. 3887) .authorizing the Secretary of War to mittee on Military Affairs. donate to the city of Dunsmuir, Calif., two German cannons or By Mr. RIDDICK: A bill (II. R. 3909) to provide for the fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on erection of a Federal building at Lewistown, Mont., and appro Military Affairs. priating money therefor; to the Committee on Public Buildings Also, a bill (H. R. 3888) autllorizing the Secretary of War to and Grounds. donate to the .city of Lincoln, Calif., two German cannons or By 1\!r. HERNANDEZ: A pill (H. R. 3910) to establish a fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on fish-cultural station in New Mexico; to the Committee on the · Mill tary Affairs. · Merchant Marine and Fisheries. Also, a bill (H. R. 3889) autllorizing the Secretary of 'Var to By Mr. WELTY: A bill (H. R. 3911) to provide for the regis donate to the city of Roseville, Calif., two German cannons or tration and Americanization of aliens; to the Committee on fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on Immigration and Naturalization. Military Affairs. By Mr. SUMMERS of Washington: A hill (H. R. 3912) au Also, a bill (H. R. 3890) ,authorizing the Secretary of War to thorizing the Secretaory of War to donate to the counties or donate to the city of Colfax, Calif., two German cannons or Walla Walla, Whitman, and Yakima, State of Washington, six fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on ·German cannons or fieldpieces each, for distribution by the Military Affairs. - • . • boards of county commissioner ; to the Committee on Military Also, a bill (H. R. 3891) authorizing the Secretary of War to Affairs. · donate to the city of Portola, Calif., two German cannons or Also, a bill (H. R. 3913) authorizing the Secretary of War to tfieldpieces, with their accompani.m..ents; to the Committee on donate to the counties ·of Adams, Asotin, Benton, Columbia, 'Military Affairs. · . Franklin, Garfield, Grant, Kittitas, and Klickitat, State of Wash Also a bill -(a R. 3892) authorizing the Secretary of War to ington, three German cannons or fieldpieces each, for distri donate' to the city of Jamestown, Calif., two German cannons or bution by the boards of county commissioners ; to the Committee fieldpieces, with theh· accompaniments; to the Committee on on ·Military Affairs. · Military ,Affairs. By Mr. PLATT: A bill (H. R. 3914) to amend the act of AJso, a bill (H. R. 3893) authol'izing the Secretary of War to March 19, 1918, entitled "An act to save daylight and to provide doua te to the city of Corning, C~ two German cannons or standard time for the United States"; to the Committee on fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Military Affairs. By Mr. IRELAND: A bill {H. R. 3915) authorizing the Sec- , Al o a bill (H. R. 3894) author-izing the Secretary of War to retary of War to donate to the town of Neponset, Ill., one donate' to' the city of' Greenville; Calif., two German cannons or German cannon or fieldpiece and shells ; to the Committee on fieldpieces, with their accompaniments; to the Committee on Mlli tary Affairs. Military A.frairs. . Also, a bill (H. R. 3916) authorizing ·the Secretary of War Also, a bill (H. R. 3895) authorizing the Secretary of War to' to donate to the town of Ladd, TIL, one German cannon· or donate to the city of Markleeville, Calif., two German eannons or fieldpiece and shells ; to the Committee on Military Affair . :fielUpieces, witli their accompaniments; to the Committee on By Mr. PADGETT: A bill (H. R. 3917) to donate one Cflp Military Affairs. tured cannon or .fieldpiece to the city of Franklin, Tenu.; to Also, a hlll (H. R . .3896) authorizing the SeCI·etary of War to the Committee on Military Affairs. donate to the city of Sutter Creek, Calif., two German cannons By Mr. NEELY: A bill {H. R. 3918) for the permanent ap or fieldpieces, with their .accoo:rlpaniments; to the Committee on pointment as commissioned officers of ce1·tain noncom.rnis ioned Mi Utary Affa.i.rs. officers who were called to active service under temporary com By Mr. BURDICK (by 1·equest): A bill (H. B. 3897) au missions as officers between the dates of April 6, 1917, and thorizing the Secretary of the Interior to convey a right of way November 11, 1918, and for other purposes; to the Committee to the District of Columbia; to the Committee on the District on Military Affairs. of Columbia. , By 1\Ir. BOX: A bill (H. R. 3919) for the erection of a public Also, a bill (H. R. 3898) authorizing the grant Of a right of building at Lufkin, Tex. ; to the Committee on Public Buildings way through reservation No. 13, in the District of Columbia; and Grounds. to the Committee on the District of Columbia. · Also, a bill (H. R. 3920) to increase the limit o:t cost for the Also, a bill (H.. R. 3899) making an appropriation for the erec Federal building and site at Oranget Tex. ; to the Committee on tion of a bridge over the Eastern Branch of the Potomac River Public Buildings and Grounds. in the District of Columbia; to the Committee on the District of By Mr. RAMSEY: A bill (H. R. .3921) for the purchase o:r a Columbia. . ·site and erection of a public building at Phillipsburg1 N. J. ; to Also, a bill (H. R. 3900) amending section 985 of the Code of the Committee on Putilic Buildings and Grounds. the District· of Columbia; to the Committee on the District of By Mr. SWEET: A. bill (H. R. 3922) to amend an act entitled 4 Columbia. ~. 'An act to amend section 8 of an act entitled 'An act for pre- ,...-...r 1919. CONGRE8SIONAL RECO~ROUSE. 429 venting the manufacture~ sale, o:r- tranBPortation o:f ad:ultmted Also~ a bill (H.. R_ 3949) authorizing the donation of one can or misbranded or poisonous or · By 1\.'Ir. ZIIIL IAJ.'l": A bill (H. R. 3970) to provide for the· By. Mr. HADLEY: A bill (H. R. 3983) for the relief of Emma enlargement of tbe public building at Cumberland, Md.; to the Pierce; to the Committee on Claims. Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. . Also, a bill (H. R. 3984) for the rehef of Thomas Bayton and Also, a bill (H. R. 3971) to increase the limit of cost and Bertha M. Hartt; to the Committee on Claims. proYiclc for the reconstruction of the Federal building at Hagers By Mr. HERNANDEZ: A bill (H. R. 3985) for the relief of town, l\ld.; to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounqs. the estate of Juan Martinez y Sanchez; to the Committee on By 1\lr. WILLIAMS: Eesolution (H. Res. 81) to allow the Claims. chairman of the Committee on Expenditures in the Department By Mr. HICKS: A bill (H. R. 3986) to authorize the Presi· of Commerce to appoint a clerk to said committee; to the Com dent of the United States to appoint Albert C. Read and John H. mittee on Account ·. Towers commanders in the permanent establishment of the By l\Ir. IRELAND: Resolution (H. Res. 82) authorizing the Navy, and Patrick N. L. Bellinger lieutenant commander in the appointment of Mrs. Mary C. Adams as attendant for the permanent establishment of the Navy; to the Committs>-e on ladie ' reception room of the House of Representatives during Naval Affairs. the Sixty-sixth Congress; to the Committee on Accounts. Also, a bill (H. R. 3987) to provide for the payment to MrJ. By l\Ir. ZHILl\fAN: Resolution (H. Res. 83) authorizing the Mary Esther Fisher Benoit of insurance money of Alphonse V. chairman of the Committee on Expenditures in the Post Office Benoit, late private, Company A, One hundred and sixth Infan· Department to appoint a clerk for said committee; to the Com try; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. mittee on Accounts. By Mr. HOUGHTON: A bill (H. R. 3988) granting a pension By Mr. LANGLEY: Resolution (H. Res. 84) to print for the to Hannah Barrett; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. use of the House of Representatives -- copies of the speech Also, a bill (ii. R. 3989) granting an increase of pension to of Hon. F. C. HICKS on The American Flag; to the Committee on George Sharp; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. · Printing. By Mr. KNUTSON: A bill (H. R. 3990) granting compensa By l\Ir. DYER: Re olution (H. Res. 85) directing the Secre tion ·to Charles Fortier; to the Committee on Interstate and tary of War to furnish the House the number of commissioned Foreign Commerce. officers on duty in the District of Columbia. Also, a bill (H. R. 3991) granting a pension to Emil J. Olsen; By Mr. RAKER: Joint resolution (H. J. Res. 76) to suspend to the Committee on Pensions. · the requirements of annual assessment work on mining claims Also, a bill (H. R. 3992) granting a pension to Richard M. during the continuation of the war in which the United States VanDervort; to the Committee on Pensions. i now engaged and until midnight of December 31 of the year Also, a bill (H. R. 3993) granting a pension to Charles Due following that in which such war is concluded; to the Com her; to the Committee on Pensions. mittee on the Public Lands. Also, a bill (H. R. 3994) granting an increase of pension to · By Mr. JOHNSTON of New York: Joint resolution (H. J. Wilson B. George ; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Res. 77) declaring May 30 of each year to be a national Also, a bill (H. R. 3995) granting an increase of pension to holiday which shall be known as Memorial Day; to the Com- Alonzo Green; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. mittee on the Judiciary. · Also, a bill (H. R. 3996) granting an increase of pension to By l\Ir. KAHN: Joint resolution (H. J. Res. 78) authorizing George W. Hook; to the Committee on Pensions. the giving of credit for service in the junior and senior divi By Mr. LANGLEY: A bill (H. R. 3997) granting a pension to sions of the Reserre Officers' Training Corps ; to the Committee Annie K. Squier; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. on l\filitary Affairs. Also, a bill (H. R. 3998) granting a pension to W. \V. Tread By ·Mr. CRISP: Joint resolution (H. J. Res. 79) authorizing way ; to the Committee on Pensions. the Secretary of \Var to loan to the city of Dawson, Ga., tents Also, a bill (H. R. 3999) for the payment of certain soldiers' and cots for use of Confederate veterans in their State con claims for back pay growing out of service in the Army of the vention June 17 and 18, 1919; to the Committee on Military United States, as reported by the Court of Claims; to the Com· Affairs. mittee on War Claims. By Mr. HUDSPETH: Joint resolution (H. J. Res. 80) to correct an-error in the wording of the appropriation of $71,000 By Mr. LONGWORTH: A bill (H. R. 4000) granting a pen· made in the act approved July 9, 1918, and to authorize the sion to George McFoster; to the Committee on Pensions. ' Secretary of War to pay said sum to respective parties entitled · Also, a bill (H. R. 4001) granting an increase of pension to thereto; to the Committee on Military Affairs. Harry Weinheimer; to the Committee on Pensions. By the SPEAKER: Memorial from the Chamber of Deputies Also, a bill (H. R. 4002) for the relief of Edward J. Sharp; of Belgium relating to the league of nations; to the Committee to the Committee on• Claims. on • oreign Affairs. By Mr. MASON: A bill (H. R. 4003) granting a pension to Catherine Hartless; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. PRIVATE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS. By Mr. NEELY: A bill (H. R. 4004) granting a pension to Richard McNeely; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, private bills and resolutions Also, a bill (H. R. 4005) granting a pension to Minen·a E. were introduced and severally referred as follows: Layman ; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By 1\fr. ASHBROOK: A bill (H. R. 3972) granting a pension Also, a bill (H. R. 4006) granting a pension to Alsinda John· to John L. Uace ; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ston; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Bv 1\fr. BEE: A bill (H. R. 3973) for the relief of the Longini Also, a bill (H. R. 4007) granting a pension to Joseph Miley; l\IeXicnn Hat Co., of San Antonio, Tex.; to the Committee on to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 4008) granting a pension to George H. Also, a bill (H. R. 3974) for the relief of Lena Garagnon; to Smith; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. the Committee on Claims. Also, a bill (H. 4009) granting·a pension to Anna Hall Rich By 1\lr. BOOHER: A bill (H. n. 3975) granting an increase of R. pension to Sidney S. Canter; to the Committee on In>alid Pen mond ; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 4010) granting a pension to A. S. Radford; sions. to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By 1\lr. CALDWELL: A bill (H. R. 3976) granting a pension to Louisa l1onnelly ; to the Committee on Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 4011) granting a pension to Charles II. By l\fr. DARROW: A bill (H. R. 3977) for the relief of the Payne; to the Committee on Pensions. legal representati>es of Donnelly and Egan, deceased; to the Also, a bill (H. R. 4012) grunting a pension to Alfred Rivers; Committee on War Claims. to the Committee on Pensions. . By Mr. DICKINSON of Missouri: A biU (H. R. 3978) grant Also, a bill (H. R. 4013) granting a pension to Hugh T. ing nn increase of pension to Thomns B. Leeper; to the Com Roberts; to the Committee on Pensio~s. mittee on Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 4014) granting a pen ion to George R. By l\fr. El\fERSON: A bill (H. IL 3979) granting a pension Robinson ; to the Committee on Pensions. to Cynthia L. Anthony; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions.• · Also, a bill (H. R. 4015) gmnting a pension to J"~hn E. By :Mr. FESS: A bill (H. R. 3980) granting an increase of Schilling; to the Committee on Pensions. pen ion to Joseph N. Wilson; to the Committee on Invalid Pen Also, a bill (H. R. 4016) granting a pension to Howard sions. Shaver; to the Committee on Pensions. By l\fr. TIMBERLAKE: .A. bill (H. R. 3981) granting an in Also, a bill (H. R. 4017) granting a pension to Lloyd Shaver; crease of pension to Charles R. Dunham; to the Committee on to the Committee on Pensions. Invalid Pensions. Also, a bill (H. R. 4018) grunting a pension to Mic:;haell\1ulve.)"; By l\Ir. FULLER of Illinois: A bill (H. n. 3982) .granting an to the Committee· on Pensions. . increase of pension to Hurry Olstot; to the Committee on In - Also, a bill (H. R. 4019) granting a pension to Brent S. Jones; valid Pensions. to the Committee on Pensions. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL-RECORD--HOUSE. 431' I Also, a bill {H. R. 4020) granting a pension to Mathias J"ohn Sevier, jr., in accordance with report and findings of the Kennedy; to tbe Committee on Pensions. Court of Claims as reported in House Docum~ts Nos. 131 and Also, a bill (H. R. 4021) granting a pension to Miller Kincaid; _1302, under the prQvisions of the act approved March 3, 1883, to the Committee on Pensions. known as the Bowman Act; to the Committee on Claims. Also, a bill (H. R. 4022) granting a pension to Francis A. Also, a bill (H. R. 4058) granting an increase of pension to Keelan; to the Committee on Pensi By Mr. ESCH: Petition of Association of Collegiate Aiuffinae, Appleton; Hotel Bossert; H. R. Cashoff; Miss Lullu 1\Iont urging the continuance of United States Employment Service; gonemy; and l\Iiss Marjorie Whittle, all of Brooklyn, N. Y., pro to the Committee on Appropriations. testing against repeal of daylight-saving law; to the Committee Also, petition of sundry citizens of La Crosse, Wis., protest on Agriculture. ing against section 904 of 1918 Federal revenue tax ; to the By Mr. MERRITT: Petition from· sundry citizens of Norwalk, Committee on ·ways and Means. Conn., in opposition to repeal of the war-time prohibition bill; By Mr. FULLER of Illinois: Petition of sundry citizens of to the Committee on the Judiciary. the town of Earl, Ill., opposing repeal of the war-time prohibi Also, petition of sundry citizens of West Redding, Conn., and tion measure; to the Committee on Alcoholic Liquor Traffic. Grace Methodist Sunday School, Bridgeport, Conn., opposing the Also, petition of Jugo-Sla\S of De Kalb, Ill., concerning mat repeal of the prohibition law; to the Committee on the Judiciary. ters relating to controversies between Italy and the Jugo-Slavs; By M:r. NEELY: Petition of workers of l\Iarion County, to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. W. Va., requesting repeal of espionage act and release of all By 1\Ir. GALLIVAN: Petition of P. A. McDonald, of Boston, prisoners held thereunder; to the Committee on the Judiciary. 1\Iass., asking for legislation to delay the operation of war-time Also, petitio~ of majority of Jewish population of Wheeling, prohibition law beyond July 1, 1919; to the Committee on W. Va., urging responsibility for Jewish pogroms in Poland; to Agriculture. the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Also, petitions of the Associated Industries of Massachusetts, By Mr. NOLAN: Resolution by the San Francisco Labor Coun the Traffic Club of New England, F. R. Murdy, Roxbury, Mass., cil, favoring President Wilson's fourteen points and the league nnd the .Jordan Marsh Co.; Boston, Mass., protesting against of nations ; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. the repeal of the daylight-saving law; to the Committe·e on Inter By Mr. O'CONNELL: Petition of A. L. Burt Co., New York state and Foreign Commerce. City, and Oakes Manufacturing Co., Long Island City, N. Y., By i\fr. GRE.GNE of Vermont: Petition of sundry citizens of urging against repeal of daylight-saving law ; to the Committee the first congr ssional district of Vermont for repeal of the on Agriculture. daylight-sa\inO' law; to the Committee on Agriculture. Also, petition of New York Institute for the Education of the By Mr. HERSEY: Petition of George B. Daw and 51 other Blind, favorin-g passage of House bill 16016 to secure increased farr.ners, of Dover, Me., urging repeal of the daylight-saving facilities for providing printed matter for the blind ; to the Com lmv ; to the omrnittee on Agriculture. mittee on Education. By Mr. KAHN: Petition of Delaware State Association of By Mr. HENRY T. RAINEY: Petition of Methodist Sunday Graduate Nurses, urging relative rank for nurses in the Army; schools of Morgan County, Ill., against repeal of prohibition to the Committee on Military Affairs. laws; to the Committee on the Judiciary. By l\Ir. KING: Resolutions passed at mass meeting at Ke Also, petition of Grace Methodist Episcopal Church, Jackson wanee, Ill., urging repeal of espionage laws and release of ville, Ill., and Methodist Episcopal Church, Pleasant Hill, Ill., political prisoners; to the Committee on the Judiciary. opposing repeal of war-time prohibition law; to the Committee Also, petition signed by Mr. A. L. Hulstadt and other farmers on the Judiciary. of Altona, Ill., urging the repeal of the daylight-saving law; Also, petition of citizens of Pittsfield, Ill., favoring repeal of to the Committee on Agriculture. the daylight-saving law; to the Committee on Interstate and Also, petition signed by John Anderson and 16 other mem Foreign Commerce. ' ber of Swedish Methodist Church of Kewanee, Ill., protesting Also, petition of Grace Methodist Church, Janesville, Ill., n o-ninst any repeal of the war-time prohibition act; to the Com against repeal of war prohibition ; to the Committee on the mittee on the Judiciary. Judiciary. By l\11·. KRAUS: Petition of sundry citizens of Miami By Mr. ROWAN: Petition of Picker Bros., of New York City, County, Ind., in favor of the repeal of the daylight-saving law; protesting against the war-time prohibition bill; to the Com to the Committee on Agriculture. mittee on the Judiciary. By Mr. LINTHICUM: Petition of the Seitz Auto Co., Balti Also, petition of Grass, Freedman & Co. (Inc.) and A. N. more, 1\Id., urging repeal of tax on automobiles; to the Commit Leventhal & Co. (Inc.), New York, urging the repeal of 10 per: tee on Ways and Means. cent tax on furs; to the Committee on Ways and Means. Also, petition of G. Feikin & Son, furriers, Baltimore, 1\Id.; Also, petition of the Chamber of Commerce of the city of New prote ting against 10 per cent tax on furs; to the Committee on York, opposing the repeal of the daylight-saving law; to the Wa3·s and Means. Coinmittee on Agriculture. Also petition of Brigham-Hopkins Co., Baltimore, 1\Id., oppos- Also, petition of the National Bank of Commerce, New York ing D~partment of Labor Employment Service; to the Commit City, urging the retention of the daylight-saving law; to the tee on Labor. Committee on Agriculture. Also, petition of Felippe A. Broadbent, Baltimore, Md., urging Also, petition of Mr. Harold W. Stimp on, of the Ajax Rubber right of suffrage for the residents of the District of Columbia; Co. (Inc.), New York City, opposing continuation of the United to the Committee on Woman Suffrage. States Employment Service; to the Committee on Labor. Also· petition of Corkran, Hill & Co. (Inc.) and Florence W. By 1.\fr. SANDERS of New York: Petition of Eastman Kodak l\IacCa'rthy Co., Baltimore, Md., against repeal of zone advances Co. and its employees, protesting-against the repeal of the day on advertising pages of periodicals; to the Committee on the light-saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. Post Office and Post Roads. · By Mr. TAYLOR of Colorado·: Petitions of citizens of the . Also, petition of L. W. Kennedy, W. D. Bradenkopf, John C. city of Grand Junction .and county of Mesa, Colo., protesting Thomas, J. Bannister Hill, jr., Morris Whitridge, Louis Levison, against repeal of the prohibition' law; to the Committee on James B. Hessarg, Richard J. White, Talbot .M. Jenkins, and Agriculture. T. Parkison l\litchell, all of Maryland, protesting against re By 1\Ir. TEMPLE: Petition. of the National Reform Associa peal of daylight-saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. tion, 209 Ninth Street, Pittsburgh, Pa., protesting against any Also, petition of the Model Garage, Middletown, Walter Scott, legislation that would repeal or modify existing law against man distributor (Marmon), Baltimore, Md., protesting against tax ufacture of wine and beer; to the Committee on Agriculture. on automobiles; to the Committee on Ways and Means. By Mr. LUCE: Protests by Massachusetts Women's Christian Also, papers supporting House bill 2825, granting a pension to. Temperance Union, Newton Methodist Episcopal Sunday School, Arthur A. Moore; to the Committee on Pensions. Weston Methodist Episcopal Church and Sunday School, and · By Mr. WALTERS: Petition of Slovenian Republican Alli the Baker Memorial Methodist Episcopal Sunday School, ance, Johnstown, Pa., relative to the rights of the Jugo-Slavs; against the repeal of war-time prohibition; to the Committee to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. By 1\Ir. WASON: Memorial of the Sullivan County (N. H.) on the Judiciary. Also, protest by Jewish citizens of Marlboro, 1\fass., against Woman's Christian Temperance Union Institute, urging the en massacres ·of women and children of Jewish faith in Poland actment of the prohibition amendment; to the Committee on the and Galicia; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. Judiciary. By Mr. MAGEE: Petition of many residents of Cortland Also, memorial of the Methodist Sunday School of Bethlehem, County, N. Y., favoring the repeal of the tax on soda water N. H., protesting against the lifting of the ban on light wine and ice cream, which is contained in the existing revenue law; and beer; to the Committee on the Judiciary. to the Committee on Ways and Means. Also, petition of \V. E. Roy and 80 other residents of Walpole, Also, a petition of the Azaris Literary Society, of Syracuse, N. H., and vicinity, urging the repeal of the daylight-saving N. Y., protesting against the passage of the Smith-Towner bill; law; to the Committee on Agriculture. to the Committee on Education. Also, petition of Will B. Connor and 22 other residents of By l\Ir. MAHER: Petition of the Merchants' Association; Sutton, N. H .. and vicinity, urging the repeal of the daylight Alfred E. l\larling, president chamber of commerce; Herbert saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. 1919. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 433 Also, petition of C. P. Farrer and 38 other residents of Hen· Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Speaker, I present the resolution, House niker, N. H., and vicinity, urging the repeal of the daylight joint resolution 67, which by previous order of the House was saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. made the order of the day. Also, petition of 'V. E. Bishop and two other residents of The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report the resolution. . Lisbon, N. H., urging the repeal of the daylight-saving law; The Clerk read as follows : to the Committee on Agriculture. House joint resolution 67. Also, petition of W. E. Stearns and 105 residents of West Resolved~ etc., That the thanks of Congress are hereby extended to Rindge, N. H., and vicinity, urging the repeal of the daylight those who served in the armed forces of the United States in the war saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. against the Imperial German Government and who, through their Also, petition of C. T. Rossiter and 19 other residents of patriutic sacrifice, steadfast fidelity, brilliant strategy, and courageous service, secured a victorious peace, gave to the world a new insight into Claremont, N. H., urging the repeal of the daylight-saving law_; the high ideals and lofty purposes of America, and left to future genera to the Committee on Agriculture. tions a splendid heritage of heroic achievement and noble devotion to Also, petition of John Robertson and 40 other residents of duty. That the thanks of Congress are hereby extended to those who served West Hopkinton, N. H., and vicinity, urging the repeal of the in the various auxiliary forces, whose humane and benevolent work at daylight-saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. home and on the field of battle contributed so greatly to the comfort Also, petition of Frank E. Cutting and 71 other residents of and support of our valiant warriors. · That the thanks of Congress are hereby extended to the mothers, East Weare, N. H., and vicinity, urging the repeal of the day wives, and relatives who, patriotic and uncomplaining, gave their nearest light-saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. and their dearest in the hour o! the Nation's need, and its deep imd heartfelt sympathy is extended to those whose kindred fell, or were Also, petition of G. A. Hart and 83 other residents of East permanently disabled in the great struggle. Jaffrey, N. H., urging the repeal of the daylight-saving law; to That Congress reverently expresses its profound appreciation of the the Committee on Agriculture. sublime act of those who made the supreme sacrifice by giving their Also, petition of Dean S. Russell and 102 other residents of lives for their country and their country's cause. Keene, N. H., and vicinity, urging the repeal of the daylight Mr. 1\IONDELL. 1\fr. Speaker, I a~k unanimous consent that saving law; to the Committee on Agriculture. the time for the consideration of the resolution be controlled Also, petition of William Truland and one other resident of one-half by the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. CLARK] and one Lancaster, N. H., urging the repeal of the daylight-saving law; half by myself. to the Committee on Agriculture. Tile SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wyoming asks unani Also, memorial of Golden Rod Grange, No. 114, of Swanzf>y, mous consent that the time for debate upon the resolution shall N. H., requesting the repeal of the daylight-saving law; to the be divided equally, to be controlled one-half by the gentleman Committee on Agriculture. from Missouri [Mr. CLARK] and one-half by himself. Is there Al so, memorial of M. L. Ware Grange, West Rindge, N. H., objection? requesting the repeal of the daylight-saving law; to the Com Mr. BANKHEAD. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, mittee on Agriculture. I would like to know if the gentleman has in mind any limita Also, memorial of Mount Prospect Grange, No. 242, of Lan tion upon the time that should be allotted to each Member who caster, N. B., requesting the repeal of the daylight-saving law; desires to speak. I apprehend there will probably be a number to tlle Committee on Agriculture. of requests. Mr. MONDELL. I have not it in mind at this time. I have had requests for time varying from 5 to 15 minutes in each case, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. covering a period of about two hours and a quarter. Whether all of the gentlemen will be here, I do not know. Whether they FnmAY, May 30, 1919. will all desire to speak as long as they expected, I do not know." I assume that about two hours and a half would be consumed The House met at 12 o'clock noon. upon this side as the matter now appears. · The Chaplain, Rev. Henry N. Couden, D. D., offered the fol 1\Ir. HEFLIN. Mr. Speaker, I suggest to the gentleman from lo\ving prayer : Wyoming that the time to be allotted should be left largely to Father of light and life, liberty and hope, justice and mercy, the control of the gentlemen who ha \e charge of the time on love and the sweet affections of the human heart, we thank Thee the respective sides. for the spirit of patriotism which moved the men of this body Mr. MONDELL. I expect to alternate with the gentleman to set apart this holy day in memory of the brave soldiers who, from Missouri. in answer to the call of the colors, left home, native land, and Mr. HEFLIN. Yielding from 5 to 6 to 10 minutes to each all that they held dear to go to the rescue of our sister na person? tions, who were fighting an insidious foe for liberty, right, and l\1r. l\10NDELL. Several gentlemen have asked for as much justice. as 15 minutes. That is the longest time that has been suggested All hail to the American soldier, who turned back the tide by any one speaker. of wnr and brought peace to a suffering world. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gen We come with praise for the living and tears for the dead, tleman from ·wyoming that the time be equally divided, to be symp~th:r for the wounded and maimed, for the fathers, mothers, ~ontrolled one-half by himself and one-half by the gentleman wive.;;, and children who sacrificed their dear ones on the altar from Missouri [Mr. CLARK]. of liberty. Comfort them, we beseech Thee, in Thine own way. There was no objection. Out of the twilight of the past l\fr. l\IONDELL. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that We move to a diviner light, For nothing that is wrong can last; those who are unable to be here to-day, and those who are here Nothing's immortal but the right. but who are not able to participate in the debate--for we know that many are necessarily absent making patriotic addresses May the. memory of the great sacrifices the lovers of liberty elsewhere--be granted the right to extend their remarks in and truth have made live on as an example to those who shall the RECORD, for the period of five legislative days, upon the come after us. In the spirit of the Master. Amen. subject of the resolution and subjects appropriate to Memorial The Journal of the proceedings of yesterday was read and ap Day. proYed. · The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Wyoming asks unani WITHDRAWAL OF P .APERS. mous consent that all Members have permission to extend their By unanimous consent, Mr. FULLER of Illinois was granted remarks in the RECORD upon this resolution for not exceeding leave to withdraw from the files of the House papers in the five legislative days. Is there objection? case of Herbert A. York (H. R. 14802, 65th Cong.), without Mr. ASHBROOK. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, leaving copies, no adverse report having been made thereon. would there be any objection to making that 10 days? Also, papers in the case of Thomas F. Duffy (H. R. 13534 l\Ir. MONDELL. I think it is not good practice to extend that 65th Cong.), without leaving copies, no adverse report having privilege over any considerable period of time. Personally I been made thereon. would have no personal objection to 10 days, but I do not think it is good practice.- I think my friend will agree with me that TENDERI NG THANKS OF CONGRESS TO THOSE WHO SERVED IN THE it is not. It occurs to me that whether gentlemen are here or GREAT WAR. not, they can prepare within five days what they desire to say The SPEAKER. Under a previous order of the House on the subject. House joint resolution 67, tendering the thanks of Congress t~ Mr. ASHBROOK. I know some Members who are absent at those who served, or gave others to the service of, the country this time and who probably will not be back within five days, in the Great 'Var, is now in order. · who would like to avail themselves of that privilege. LVIII--23