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1 Western Interior Alaska Federal Subsistence 2 1 WESTERN INTERIOR ALASKA FEDERAL SUBSISTENCE 2 REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING 3 4 PUBLIC MEETING 5 6 VOLUME II 7 8 Aniak, Alaska 9 October 7, 2009 10 9:00 o'clock a.m. 11 12 13 COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: 14 15 Jack Reakoff, Chairman 16 Ray Collins 17 Timothy Gervais 18 Donald Honea 19 Carl Morgan 20 Jenny Pelkola 21 James Walker 22 Robert Walker 23 Eleanor Yatlin 24 25 26 27 Regional Council Coordinator, Vince Mathews 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 Recorded and transcribed by: 45 46 Computer Matrix Court Reporters, LLC 47 135 Christensen Drive, Suite 2 48 Anchorage, AK 99501 49 907-243-0668 50 [email protected]/[email protected] 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 3 (Aniak, Alaska - 10/7/2009) 4 5 (On record) 6 7 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Vince has a few 8 housekeeping things to do. 9 10 MR. MATHEWS: Okay. Real quickly, 11 we're going to be passing out like we did yesterday the 12 menu thing. You circle it and decide what you want, 13 and then give the money and that, and then we're going 14 to call in the orders for lunch. And Don's going to be 15 handling that part. So I will pass around for..... 16 17 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Don's going to pay 18 for it? 19 20 MR. MATHEWS: .....the Council members 21 the menu. He had some for the audience. 22 23 The other safety issue is the projector 24 over there is kind of precarious the way it's plugged 25 in, so just don't touch it, if you could do that. 26 Otherwise the power will go off and then we have to 27 start all over from ground zero. 28 29 We've already covered the safety stuff. 30 You know where the doors are and the bathrooms. 31 32 There will be other people coming in 33 today that we'll try to introduce as they come up on 34 the agenda. We're projecting to have hopefully on line 35 Pete DeMatteo, the area biologist from McGrath, if we 36 can pull that off, and the area biologist for the 37 Galena area, but that's still in negotiations, and 38 trying to get them the numbers, realizing they just 39 came in out of the field from a busy fall season. 40 41 So that's all I had, and I'll be 42 plugging in the phone. 43 44 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Okay. It's about 45 five after nine, and so we're reconvening the Western 46 Interior Regional Advisory Council meeting, fall 47 meeting. 48 49 We covered some fisheries proposals. 50 Last year -- I was looking at one of the proposals that 203 1 we looked at last year, or yesterday that I would like 2 to reconsider, and that would be Proposal 89, the State 3 proposal, if you can find your State proposal book. 4 I'd like to go over this proposal real quick. It has, 5 you know, some things that -- it's not an allocation, 6 it's -- well, I'll let that thing -- or correction, 98. 7 98. My mistake. 8 9 Okay. Ready there, Vince? 10 11 MR. PEARCE: Yeah, Vince, this is Josh 12 Pearce with Fish and Game in McGrath. I'm on. 13 14 MR. MATHEWS: Okay. So Josh is on. 15 16 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Okay, Josh. We can 17 hear you. Anybody else on that teleconference? 18 19 MR. MATHEWS: No. 20 21 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: No. So we're going 22 to -- we're going to clean up some of this fisheries 23 stuff from yesterday. And we're on Proposal 98, State 24 Proposal 98. And this was Kwik'pak Fisheries. This 25 actually opens up an additional fishing district in the 26 outer district of the Yukon. So I'm concerned. It's 27 between the Black River and Chris Point, fishing would 28 be permitted with both drift and setnet. And so what 29 this does is actually open more fishing area to 30 commercial fishing in the lower river, and this area 31 has not been open. This is isn't allocating among the 32 commercial users; this is actually opening more fishing 33 area. So I'm concerned that it will allow additional 34 harvest by the comer -- when they have commercial Y-1 35 openings. I'm also concerned that there's going to be 36 -- that those alloca -- that additional fishing 37 pressure will take away from other districts upriver, 38 including districts within our -- and subsistence users 39 within our own region. And I don't feel at this time 40 that any additional commercial fishing should be 41 encouraged on the Yukon River. Additional fishing 42 areas and additional harvest capacity. 43 44 And so I'd like to entertain a motion 45 to adopt the proposal and eliminate this proposal. 46 47 MR. COLLINS: Move to adopt. 48 49 MS. PELKOLA: Second. 50 204 1 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Moved and seconded 2 to adopt the proposal. Any comments on this proposal. 3 Anybody voice additional, my additional fears. Go 4 ahead, Ray. 5 6 MR. COLLINS: Well, this didn't come by 7 the planning group, so it's gone direct to Board of 8 Fisheries. And there's a Kuskokwim River Working 9 Group, and we never looked at it or discussed it, and 10 it should have been discussed by that group. 11 12 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Well, this is on the 13 lower Yukon. 14 15 MR. COLLINS: Oh, it's Lower Yukon. 16 17 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: It's Lower Yukon. 18 19 MR. COLLINS: I thought you said 20 Kuskokwim. Oh, okay. 21 22 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: And so the Lower 23 Yukon, this basically opens additional district 24 capacity for Y-1. And so that's the proposal. Any 25 additional comments. Tim. 26 27 MR. GERVAIS: Yeah, I want to comment 28 regarding they're saying it will improve the quality of 29 their harvested product. And that's the issue, perhaps 30 in the future Kwik'pak could submit a proposal where 31 they're exchanging some area for this outer area or 32 something. Take away some area they have in exchange 33 for getting this more ocean-caught fish. 34 35 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Well, that's nothing 36 but baloney. I could use another term, but all of 37 those lower river fish are very high quality fish all 38 the way through Y-1 and Y-2, and anything that knows 39 anything about a Yukon king. Kwik'pak is full of B.S. 40 They just want additional fishing capacity. And so I'm 41 not happy with this proposal, especially when we have 42 the suppression of run. 43 44 Do you have additional comment. 45 46 MR. GERVAIS: All right. Well, that 47 was my comment. 48 49 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: I don't think 50 they're going to want to trim Y-1 in the upper part or 205 1 some other area. And so any other comments on this 2 proposal. 3 4 (No comments) 5 6 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: I'm opposed to the 7 proposal specifically because there's no need for 8 additional harvest capacity on the Lower Yukon River, 9 and they have plenty of -- we have to control the 10 commercial harvest there with openings. And so the 11 districts that are in place are plenty adequate, and so 12 I'm opposed to the proposal, because it may take away 13 allocation from the upper districts, including the 14 subsistence users of the Yukon River. So those are my 15 opposing comments on that proposal. 16 17 So any further discussion. 18 19 (No comments) 20 21 MR. R. WALKER: Question. 22 23 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: The question's being 24 called. All those in favor of the proposal signify by 25 saying aye. 26 27 (No affirmative votes) 28 29 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Those opposed to 30 Proposal 98 same sign. 31 32 IN UNISON: Aye. 33 34 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Proposal fails 35 unanimously. 36 37 And so we're going to go -- that's 38 everything. Now we can go to the ichthyophonus, 39 basically update. 40 41 MR. MATHEWS: Yes, according to the 42 agenda, that's where you would be at. 43 44 CHAIRMAN REAKOFF: Right. I wanted an 45 Ichthyophonus update. In 2003 there was quite a bit of 46 discussion about Ichthyophonus actually killing female 47 Chinook as they migrate up the river. There was -- 48 we'll have Don give sort of an overview of the various 49 studies that have been in place. And the Alaska 50 Department of Fish and Game promised to have an 206 1 Ichthyophonus study. And now six years later I'm 2 asking, where is that study and what is the update on 3 that study. And so I've gotten some preliminary stuff. 4 So Don's going to give us -- I want the Council, we 5 have many Council members that have come onto the 6 Council and are unaware of this issue, and I want the 7 Council to come on the same sheet of music with what 8 this issue really is and what Ichthyophonus really is. 9 10 Go ahead, Don. 11 12 MR. RIVARD: Thank you, Mr.
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