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The David and Barbara Pryor Center for Arkansas Oral and Visual History University of Arkansas 1 East Center Street Fayetteville, AR 72701 (479) 575-6829 Arkansas Memories Project Ellen Gilchrist Interviewed by Scott Lunsford July 13, 2010 Fayetteville, Arkansas Copyright 2010 Board of Trustees of the University of Arkansas. All rights reserved. Objective Oral history is a collection of an individual's memories and opinions. As such, it is subject to the innate fallibility of memory and is susceptible to inaccuracy. All researchers using these interviews should be aware of this reality and are encouraged to seek corroborating documentation when using any oral history interview. The Pryor Center's objective is to collect audio and video recordings of interviews along with scanned images of family photographs and documents. These donated materials are carefully preserved, catalogued, and deposited in the Special Collections Department, University of Arkansas Libraries, Fayetteville. 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The David and Barbara Pryor Center for Arkansas Oral and Visual History, University of Arkansas ii Arkansas Memories Project, Ellen Gilchrist Interview, July 13, 2010 http://pryorcenter.uark.edu • Brackets enclose o italicized annotations of nonverbal sounds, such as laughter, and audible sounds, such as a doorbell ringing; o annotations for clarification and identification; and o standard English spelling of informal words. • Commas are used in a conventional manner where possible to aid in readability. Citation Information See the Citation Guide at http://pryorcenter.uark.edu/about.php. The David and Barbara Pryor Center for Arkansas Oral and Visual History, University of Arkansas iii Arkansas Memories Project, Ellen Gilchrist Interview, July 13, 2010 http://pryorcenter.uark.edu Scott Lunsford interviewed Ellen Gilchrist on July 13, 2010, in Fayetteville, Arkansas. [00:00:00] Scott Lunsford: All right, Ellen. Well, today's date is the thirteenth of July in the year 2010. We're here at your home, which is a beautiful Fay Jones home. Um—the Pryor Center is going to conduct this interview. My name is Scott Lunsford, and you are Ellen—what is your middle name? Ellen Gilchrist: Louise. SL: Louise Gilchrist. Um—we're going to—uh—videotape this. We're also audio recording it. These—uh—recordings will be archived at the Pryor Center, and also a copy will be in Special Collections at the University of Arkansas Mullins Library in Fayetteville, Arkansas. And what we will do with these recordings—we will encourage researchers and students and documentarians to access this material in their—in their work. Uh—we will take some highlight clips—video-highlight clips. We'll post that on the web. We'll take—uh—all the audio and—uh—all the transcript, and we'll post both those items on the web. You will have a chance to—to look at the material and review the transcript to make sure it's what you meant to say and you're comfortable The David and Barbara Pryor Center for Arkansas Oral and Visual History, University of Arkansas 1 Arkansas Memories Project, Ellen Gilchrist Interview, July 13, 2010 http://pryorcenter.uark.edu with the content before we ever let anyone have access to it. [EG clears throat] Um—we will give you a copy of everything that we do. We're scanning your—uh—family photo albums and all the wonderful photographs you have—we've pulled off the walls and off tables. We'll—uh—preserve all this stuff forever, and we'll make you copies for your—uh—children and for your grandchildren, and we hope that it will be a very meaningful thing for you and your family. We know it's gonna be great for the state of Arkansas. So, Ellen, having said all of that, if you're comfortable with—with all these permutations of what we're gonna do with this, then we'll keep going. Is this all okay with you that . [00:01:58] EG: Fantastic. Fantastic. SL: Okay, great. EG: Wonderful public service you're doin' to me—for me. SL: I have a great, great job. We—we get to—uh—spend time—a lot of time with really wonderful people that have done great things, and—uh—it's always an honor. And it certainly is a thrill to finally get—uh—to be in front of you. Um—uh—you're kind of a local hero here—local figure that—uh—everyone has been in love with forever. So it's great—it's great to be here in front of you, and I really appreciate you letting us—uh—come in and take The David and Barbara Pryor Center for Arkansas Oral and Visual History, University of Arkansas 2 Arkansas Memories Project, Ellen Gilchrist Interview, July 13, 2010 http://pryorcenter.uark.edu over your home like we've done. EG: I'm delighted. I like to peo—watch people work. [SL laughs] I like watching all these young people with all their expertise. [00:02:43] SL: [Laughs] Well, we've got some good folks here with us today. Um—I usually start with—um—when and where you were born. EG: I was born in the Street Clinic on the banks of the Mississippi River in Vicksburg, Mississippi, because my mother had had my brother at home in Hopedale Plantation with her uncle, who was a physician, attending, and after that, she decided to go to the hospital. [Laughter] SL: Wasn't—uh—as—uh—romantic as it sounds to have the . EG: In cold, cold Delta weather in the winter in February. SL: What was the date? EG: The twentieth of February, 1935. The United States was just beginnin' to come out from underneath the worst of the Depression. SL: What was it that your—uh—father did for a living? EG: Well, at the time that I was born, he was in Nashville, Tennessee, playing baseball for the Nashville Vols, a starring team in the old Southern League . SL: Mh-hmm. The David and Barbara Pryor Center for Arkansas Oral and Visual History, University of Arkansas 3 Arkansas Memories Project, Ellen Gilchrist Interview, July 13, 2010 http://pryorcenter.uark.edu EG: . which later became one of the big leagues that we have now. But right after I was born, or right in that time frame, he broke his leg sliding into third . SL: Oh. EG: . and—uh—while it mended, he decided to go on and use his engineering degree from Auburn University, and he joined the— uh—Corps of Engineers and went to work in the Delta buildin' levees. This was—the levee work in the Delta was being done in the wake of the 1929 flood, and it was exciting. My father was standing at a railroad station when the first tractors ever came to the Mississippi delta. Until then, they'd been buildin' levees with slip te—thing—with these slipboards and huge teams of mules, so my daddy considers that one of the great day of his— of his life—that he was there when the tractors came. [Laughs] [00:04:56] SL: What—um—well, I wanted t—I wanna spend some time talking about your dad for a little while. Um—how did he— how did the baseball come about? His baseball career. EG: He'd been playing baseball all his life. He went to college. He went to Auburn when he was about fifteen, and he was still so short, he had to be a cheerleader for a couple of years. But finally, he started gettin' his height, and he played baseball for Auburn. And—um—he'd been playin' baseball all of his life, you The David and Barbara Pryor Center for Arkansas Oral and Visual History, University of Arkansas 4 Arkansas Memories Project, Ellen Gilchrist Interview, July 13, 2010 http://pryorcenter.uark.edu know, on flat fields in Courtland, Alabama . SL: Uh-huh. EG: . with his cousins. And—uh . SL: Wh . EG: . that was the sport. That's what—that was, in the Deep South, what basketball is now. SL: Mh-hmm. [00:05:41] EG: Every plantation had their own baseball team. SL: And they'd play against each other.