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First Session – Forty-Second Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXXIII No. 9 - 1:30 p.m., Thursday, October 10, 2019 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-Second Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ADAMS, Danielle Thompson NDP ALTOMARE, Nello Transcona NDP ASAGWARA, Uzoma Union Station NDP BRAR, Diljeet Burrows NDP BUSHIE, Ian Keewatinook NDP CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. Kildonan-River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Roblin PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GORDON, Audrey Southdale PC GUENTER, Josh Borderland PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake-Gimli PC JOHNSTON, Scott Assiniboia PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMONT, Dougald St. Boniface Lib. LAMOUREUX, Cindy Tyndall Park Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas-Kameesak NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Malaya Notre Dame NDP MARTIN, Shannon McPhillips PC MOSES, Jamie St. Vital NDP MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NAYLOR, Lisa Wolseley NDP NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Turtle Mountain PC REYES, Jon Waverley PC SALA, Adrien St. James NDP SANDHU, Mintu The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron, Hon. Springfield-Ritchot PC SMITH, Andrew Lagimodière PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Vérendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WASYLIW, Mark Fort Garry NDP WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Red River North PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC 633 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, October 10, 2019 The House met at 1:30 p.m. commencement of the session; Annual Report of the Residential Tenancies Commission for the fiscal year Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from of 2018-19; the Annual Report for the Liquor, Gaming Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled and Cannabis Authority for the fiscal year 2018-19; here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the Annual Report for the Victim Services complaints the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O for the fiscal year of 2018-19; the Annual Report for merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only the Independent Investigation Unit of Manitoba for that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may the fiscal year 2018-19; the Annual Report for the seek it with wisdom and know it with certainty and Legal Aid Manitoba for the fiscal year of 2018-19; the accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Annual Report for the Manitoba Horse Racing Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen. Commission for the fiscal year 2018-19; and Good afternoon, everybody. Please be seated. the Annual Report for the Public Guardian and Trustee of Manitoba for the fiscal year 2018-19; and ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS finally, the Annual Report for the Automobile Injury House Business Compensation Appeal Commission for the fiscal year 2018-19. Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Hon. Heather Stefanson (Minister of Families): I'm Leader): Madam Speaker, I have a leave request on pleased today to table the following reports: the House business. Accessibility for Manitobans Act Annual Report for Could you please canvass the House for leave for the year 2018-19; the Social Services Appeal Board the following items: (1) that today's oral questions Annual Report for the year 2018-19; and Manitoba continue until we have reached the end of question 12 poverty–Manitoba's Poverty Reduction Strategy in the rotation; (2) the House's adjournment hour Annual Report for the year 2018-19. for today be 7:30 p.m.; (3) that the House not sit Hon. Scott Fielding (Minister of Finance): It's my tomorrow, and that all provisions relating to to- pleasure to rise today in Assembly to table the Public morrow, October 11th, 2019, in the Sessional Order Utilities Board 2018-19 Annual Report. I'd also like be–passed by this House on September 30th, 2019, be to rise to table the Public Service Group Insurance considered and resolved today, immediately follow- Fund: benefits summary, auditor report and financial ing the Sessional Order provisions for today; (4) that statements for the year ending April 30th, 2019; also the deadline time in section 15 of the Sessional Order like to rise in Assembly to table the report of amounts be 5:30 p.m. rather than 30 minutes prior to ad- paid and payable to members of Assembly for the year journment; (5) that when the report stage amendments ending March 31, 2019. to Bill 22 are moved, the sponsor be allowed one minute to speak to each amendment, and; (6) that the As well, table the insurance and risk management Opposition House Leader be allowed to table a list of fidelity bond crime insurance, as well as tabling today ministers to be questioned in concurrence today, to be in Assembly the report to the Legislature pursuant to in effect for today only. section 63.4 of The Financial Administration Act. Motion agreed to. Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister of Sustainable Development): I'd like– Madam Speaker: Introduction of bills? Committee Reports? Point of Order TABLING OF REPORTS Madam Speaker: The honourable member for River Heights, on a point of order? Hon. Cliff Cullen (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): Madam Speaker, I'm pleased to table Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Yes, we have the following reports: pursuant to The Statutes and had lots of discussion about the budget, but the Regulations Act, a copy of each regulation registered government and the Finance Minister still has not under that act after the last regulation tabled in tabled the description of the Estimates of revenue. this House and more than 14 days before the We've had the Estimates of Expenditure many years 634 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 10, 2019 ago. It would be highly unusual not to have–to finish women under the age of 25 have struggled to afford the session without having the Estimates of revenue menstrual products. Half the population menstruates tabled and it wasn't among the list that the Minister of for 40 years of their lives. Studies have found that Finance just tabled. women feel that their periods prevent them from fully participating in social activities and up to 70 per cent Madam Speaker: I would indicate to the member say they have missed school or work because of their that what he is raising is not a point of order as it is periods. not a departure from the rules of the House. So, respectfully, the member does not have a point of Imagine missing work or school because you order. don't have pads or tampons. Girls need information and support and access to these products. That is why * * * this year, our government is putting together period Ms. Squires: I'd like to table the Manitoba Clean packs for those who get their periods and might need Environment Commission Annual Report for some assistance. These packs will be distributed to 2018-19. women's resource centres across the province for distribution to these girls. Hon. Cathy Cox (Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage): I am pleased to table the following annual We are hoping that these period packs will help reports: the Annual Report for the Centre culturel destigmatize getting your period and celebrate it franco-manitobain for the fiscal year of 2018-19; the instead. The girls who need these products have Annual Report for the Manitoba Arts Council for the infinite possibilities and I am so pleased to celebrate fiscal year 2018-19; and the Annual Report for The International Day of the Girl in Manitoba, and I Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act welcome all of you to support girls in Manitoba so for the fiscal year 2018. that they can achieve their potential with support and dignity. MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS Madam Speaker: The honourable Minister for I'd also like to acknowledge that October 18th is Status of Women–and I would indicate that the Persons Day. required 90 minutes notice prior to routine pro- On October 18, 1929, Great Britain announced ceedings was provided in accordance with our their decision to the question of, does the word person rule 26(2). in section 24 of the British North America Act include Would the honourable minister please proceed a female person? Their answer was as follows: The with her statement. exclusion of women from all public offices is a relic of days more barbarous than ours. And to those who International Day of the Girl would ask why the word person should include Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister responsible for females, the obvious answer is, why should it not? the Status of Women): Today we celebrate a The Famous Five, Manitoba's own Nellie significant occasion for girls across the globe, the McClung and four other prominent Canadian women– International Day of the Girl. Emily Murphy, Irene Parlby, Louise McKinney and It is critically important to continue opening doors Henrietta Muir Edwards–not only won the right for for girls because we know girls are growing up women to serve in the Senate but also helped pave environments that can have detrimental effects on the way for women to participate equally in, and body image, mental health and self-esteem.