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Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 30th Legislature Second Session Standing Committee on Families and Communities Ministry of Community and Social Services Consideration of Main Estimates Tuesday, March 3, 2020 9 a.m. Transcript No. 30-2-2 Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 30th Legislature Second Session Standing Committee on Families and Communities Goodridge, Laila, Fort McMurray-Lac La Biche (UCP), Chair Sigurdson, Lori, Edmonton-Riverview (NDP), Deputy Chair Amery, Mickey K., Calgary-Cross (UCP) Carson, Jonathon, Edmonton-West Henday (NDP) Ganley, Kathleen T., Calgary-Mountain View (NDP) Glasgo, Michaela L., Brooks-Medicine Hat (UCP) Guthrie, Peter F., Airdrie-Cochrane (UCP) Neudorf, Nathan T., Lethbridge-East (UCP) Nixon, Jeremy P., Calgary-Klein (UCP) Orr, Ronald, Lacombe-Ponoka (UCP)* Pancholi, Rakhi, Edmonton-Whitemud (NDP) Rutherford, Brad, Leduc-Beaumont (UCP) Shepherd, David, Edmonton-City Centre (NDP)** Turton, Searle, Spruce Grove-Stony Plain (UCP)*** Yao, Tany, Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo (UCP) * substitution for Nathan Neudorf ** substitution for Lori Sigurdson *** substitution for Michaela Glasgo Also in Attendance Irwin, Janis, Edmonton-Highlands-Norwood (NDP) Renaud, Marie F., St. Albert (NDP) Support Staff Shannon Dean Clerk Stephanie LeBlanc Clerk Assistant and Senior Parliamentary Counsel Teri Cherkewich Law Clerk Trafton Koenig Parliamentary Counsel Philip Massolin Clerk of Committees and Research Services Sarah Amato Research Officer Nancy Robert Research Officer Michael Kulicki Committee Clerk Jody Rempel Committee Clerk Aaron Roth Committee Clerk Rhonda Sorensen Manager of Corporate Communications Jeanette Dotimas Communications Consultant Tracey Sales Communications Consultant Janet Schwegel Director of Parliamentary Programs Amanda LeBlanc Deputy Editor of Alberta Hansard Transcript produced by Alberta Hansard Standing Committee on Families and Communities Participants Ministry of Community and Social Services Hon. Rajan Sawhney, Minister Chi Loo, Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services Shannon Marchand, Deputy Minister March 3, 2020 Families and Communities FC-255 9 a.m. Tuesday, March 3, 2020 The rotation of speaking times will then alternate between the Title: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 fc Official Opposition and the government caucus, with individual [Ms Goodridge in the chair] speaking times being set to five minutes, which, when combined with the minister’s time, makes it a 10-minute block. Discussion Ministry of Community and Social Services should flow through the chair at all times regardless of whether or Consideration of Main Estimates not the speaking time is combined. Members are asked to advise the chair at the beginning of their rotation if they wish to combine their Ms Goodridge: Wonderful. Seeing it is now 9 a.m., I would like to time with the minister’s time. If members have a question regarding call the meeting to order and welcome everybody here today. The speaking times or the rotation, please feel free to send a note or e- committee has under consideration the estimates of the Ministry of mail to either myself or the committee clerk. Community and Social Services for the fiscal year ending March A total of six hours has been scheduled to consider the estimates 31, 2021. of the Ministry of Community and Social Services. The scheduled I’d ask that we go around the table and have all MLAs introduce end time for our meeting this morning is noon. The committee will themselves for the record. Minister, can you please introduce the then continue our consideration of the ministry’s estimates at 3:30 officials that are at the table with you. My name is Laila Goodridge. this afternoon. With the concurrence of the committee I will call a I am the MLA for Fort McMurray-Lac La Biche, the chair of this five-minute break near the midpoint of the meeting; however, the committee, and I look to my right to continue introductions. three-hour clock will continue to run. Does anyone oppose having a break? Hearing none, we will be having a break. Mr. Shepherd: David Shepherd, Edmonton-City Centre, serving Ministry officials may be present and at the direction of the as deputy chair. minister may address the committee. Ministry officials that are Mr. Neudorf: Nathan Neudorf, MLA for Lethbridge-East. seated in the gallery, if called upon, have access to the microphone that is in the back on the left side of the gallery. Pages are available Mr. Guthrie: Peter Guthrie, Airdrie-Cochrane. to deliver notes or other materials between the gallery and the table. Just to note, attendees in the gallery may not approach the table at Mr. Rutherford: Brad Rutherford, Leduc-Beaumont. any point in time. Space permitting, opposition caucus staff may sit at the table to assist their members; however, members have priority Searle Turton, MLA for Spruce Grove-Stony Plain. Mr. Turton: to sit at the table at all times. Mr. Yao: Tany Yao, Fort McMurray-Wood Buffalo. If debate is exhausted prior to the six hours, the ministry’s estimates are deemed to have been considered for the time allocated Mr. Orr: Ron Orr, representing Lacombe-Ponoka. in the schedule, and the committee will adjourn. Points of order will be dealt with as they arise, and the three-hour clock will continue Mr. Jeremy Nixon: Jeremy Nixon, Calgary-Klein. to run; however, the timer for the speaking block will be paused. Any written material provided in response to questions raised Mr. Amery: Mickey Amery, Calgary-Cross. during the main estimates should be tabled by the minister in the Mrs. Sawhney: Good morning. I’m Rajan Sawhney, MLA for Assembly for the benefit of all members. Calgary-North East, Minister of Community and Social Services. The vote on the estimates and any amendments will occur in To my left I have ADM Mr. Chi Loo. To my right I have Deputy Committee of Supply on March 19, 2020. Amendments must be in Minister Shannon Marchand. To his right is senior financial officer writing and approved by Parliamentary Counsel prior to the Olin Lovely and ADM Jason Chance. meeting at which they are to be moved. The original amendment is to be deposited with the committee clerk, and 20 copies of the Member Irwin: Janis Irwin, Edmonton-Highlands-Norwood. amendment must be provided at the meeting for the committee members and staff. Ms Renaud: Marie Renaud, St. Albert. I just want to flip back quickly as I didn’t note the following substitutions: Mr. Shepherd will be substituting as deputy chair for Ms Pancholi: Good morning. Rakhi Pancholi, Edmonton- Ms Sigurdson, and Mr. Turton will be substituting for Ms Glasgo Whitemud. for a portion of the meeting. I now will invite the Minister of Community and Social Services The Chair: Wonderful. to begin her opening remarks. Minister, you have 10 minutes. Please note that the microphones are being operated by Hansard and that the committee proceedings are being live streamed on the Mrs. Sawhney: Thank you. Once again, good morning, everyone. Internet and broadcast on Alberta Assembly TV. I would just ask I’m pleased to provide an overview of Community and Social that everyone set their cellphones and other devices to silent for the Services’ 2020 budget. Budget 2020 continues our focus on duration of this meeting. As well, I want to make note of some creating jobs, growing our economy, and making sure services are intermittent Internet issues that are happening across the building, there for people who need them. We are taking action now to get so if your Internet goes down, that is probably why. spending under control so we can achieve better results for For the speaking order and time reviews, hon. members, the Albertans now and into the future. Our plan is working. Alberta is standing orders set out the process for the consideration of the main on track to balance the budget by 2022-23. As you know, there is estimates. Standing Order 59.01(6) establishes the speaking no change to total funding for health, education, and social services. rotation while the speaking time limits are set out in Standing Order We are refocusing how dollars are spent to make sure services get 59.02(1). In brief, the minister or member of Executive Council to the people they are meant to serve. acting on the minister’s behalf will have 10 minutes to address the Funding for Community and Social Services is maintained at committee. At the conclusion of these comments we will begin a $3.9 billion as we continue to support the well-being of vulnerable 60-minute speaking block for the Official Opposition, followed by Albertans, including children and adults with disabilities, people a 20-minute speaking block for the government caucus. who are looking for work, Albertans affected by homelessness, and FC-256 Families and Communities March 3, 2020 survivors of domestic and sexual abuse. Budget 2020 will help us this month. Having accurate data will help us work together to strengthen partnerships with civil society organizations and address these caseload pressures. communities, which will increase the stability, participation, and I have and I will continue to work together and engage with the inclusion of Albertans. disability community through the Advocate for Persons with Caseload and cost pressures present a challenge for program Disabilities, the Disability Advisory Forum, the service provider sustainability. I have been transparent with our stakeholders about partnership committee, the Premier’s Council on the Status of these challenges, and I value their input into solutions that will Persons with Disabilities, and the family support for children with make programs more sustainable. As we review programs to disabilities provincial and regional advisory committees. improve the way we deliver services and achieve better results for My department officials and I have met with hundreds of key Albertans, we are committed to ensuring supports continue to be stakeholders, families, and clients across the province since Budget there for Alberta’s most vulnerable families now and in the future.