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Also, memorial or' John P. Moore, ptaying reference of his claim to granting Joseph R.awicz, United Stat.es consul at Warsaw, Russia, per­ the Court of Claims under act of March 3, 1883-to the Committee on mission to accept decorations from the Russian Government; which was War Claims. ordered to be printed, and, with the accompanying papers, referred to Also, a petition, asking an amendment to an act making appropria­ the Committee on Foreign Relations. · tions for the naval service, and for other purposes-to the Committee on. He also laid before the Senate a communication from the Secretary Naval Affairs. of War, transmitting, in compliance with the river and harbor act ap­ Also, petition for the relief of John F. Trentlen-to the Committee proved July 5, 1884, reports of engineer officers as to the bridges and on Claims. other obstructions that interfere with navigation; which, with the ac­ By Air. GLASS: Petition of Nancy Tuck, of Tennessee, asking com­ companying papers, was, on motion of:Mr. CONGER, referred to the Com­ pensation for property taken and used by United Sta,tes Army during mittee on Commerce and ordered to be printed. the late war-to the Committee on War Claims. Also, petition of John ll. Edwards for relief-to the Committee on PETmONS .AND MEMORIALS. Claims. The· PRESIDENT pro tmnpore presented a petition of the Board of Also, petitions of Jane Woodrough; of Elmirn L. Brogden, and of Trade of Cleveland, Ohio, praying the purchase by the United States of .Agnes J. Whicker, asking for pensions-to the Committee on Invalid the Portage Lake and Lake Superior Ship-Can::tl; which was referred Pensions. to the Committee on Commerce. Also, petition of Elizabeth Roge.rS, asking compensation for _pi'Operty, He also presented the petition of John G. Kennedy, and others, citi­ taken and used by United States Army in the late war-to the Com- zens of Washington, D. C., praying for the adoption of certain meth­ mittee on War Claims. . ods to secure cheaper and superior gas for fuel, power; and light; which Also, papersrelating to the claim of WilliamM. Henry, Company E, was referred to the Committee on the District of Columbia. First Tennessee Cavalry-to the same COJ:illllittee. Mr. MAXEY. I present the petition of the National Association · By Mr. GOFF: Petition of James A. Demastus, for a pension-to of Veterans of the Mexican War, by their president, J. W. Denver, and the Committee on Invalid Pensions. theirsecretary, A.M. Kenaday, praying that a pensionmaybegranted Also, petition of John Nay, of West Virginia, for a pension on ac­ to the surviving soldiers of that war and the widows of those who are count of wounds received while serving as a scout-to the same com­ deceased. I · move that the petition, with the accompanying papers, be mittee. referred to the Committee on Pensions, and I wish to say that this be­ By Mr. HAMMOND: Petition ofPermelia B. Wanocks; for relief­ ing an association of old men, highly respectable, who served their to the Committee on Claims. country well, I should be glad that the petition be printed for the use .Also, petition of F. Hiram Nichols, of Atlanta, Ga., for property of the Senate, not in the RECORD, but as a document. · taken by the Army of the United States in 1864-to the Committee on The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator ~ from Texas asks the War Claims. - unanimous consent of the Senate to print a petition with reference to By Mr. HOLMAN: Petition of Silas 0. Howe, surviving partner of pensioning the soldiers of the Mexican war. That order will be made W. T. Pate & Co., for relief-to the Committee on Ways and Means. if there be no objection. Also, petition of Henry W. Smith, surviving partner ofT. and ;J. W. Mr. CONGER. I desire to s:1y that when statements on the other Guff & Co., of Aurora, Ind., for relief-to the same committee. side of the Chamber are made on the presentation of papers we can By Mr. IRION: Petition of J. Madison Wells, for property seized by not hear anything on this side. They should be read by the Chief the .Army of the United States in Louisi~a, and stated at $446,578- Clerk, so that we may understand them. to the Committee on War Claims. Mr. M.AXEY. I stated the substance of. the petition. AlSo, petition of the heirs of Joseph Benillotte for property taken at The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from :b-lichigan asks Alexandria, La:, in 1864, by the .Army and Navy of the United States, that the matter be more clearly stated. and stated at $153,548.25-to the same committee. Mr. CONGER. I simply say that in the noise I could not even hear Also, petition of Mary E. Barrow, of Louisiana, for stores and sup­ the subject-matter of the petition. · plies taken from her at Bayou Sara, during the war of 1861, by the Army Mr. MAXEY. The petition I have presented is that of the National of the United States for army use, and stated at $58,850-to the same Association of Veterans of the Mexican W ru·. The purpose of it is to committee. secure a pension to the surviving soldiers of that war, and to the wid­ By Ur. LOVERING: Petition of Lieut. Col. David B. Muzzey and ows of those who are deceased. I said that the petition was that of a GO others, survivors of the storming column or "forlorn hope," organ­ highly respectable body of citizens, who have served their country well ized at Port Hudson, La., under General Order No. 49, Department of and are old men, and I asked that it be printed, not in the RECORD, the Gulf, June 15, 1863, asking that the medal therein promised as but for the use of the Senate as a document. It embodies a great mariy recognition for their services in volunteering for the same may now important facts. I will state that I do not introduce a bill to accom­ be granted them by Congr~-to the Committee on Military .Affairs. pany the memorial for the reason that the Senator from Mississippi [Mr. By Mr. T. B. REED: Petition ofSophronia Witham, for a pension­ GEORGE] has already presented and had referred a bill on that subject, to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. but the petitioners present the form of a bill which they ask may be By Mr. STEELE: Petition of J. D. Spurgeon and 265 others, asking considered by the Committee on Pensions. . pension law for soldiers of the late war-to the same committee. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The petition will be referred to tho By Mr. VANSCHAICK: Petition of James Shaah~m, for increase of Committee on Pensions, and· the order to print will be made unless ·pension-to the same committee. objection be interposed. Also, petition of William Gannon, for pension-to the same com­ Mr. JONES, of Arkansas, presented a petition on behalf of the Wich­ mittee. ita, Caddo, and affiliated tribes oflndians,\praying for such legislation Also, petition of Walter McCarty, for increase of pension-to the as will authorize the President of the United States to make an agree­ same committee. · ment with them in regard to certain matters of complaint that they Also, memorial of wholesale grocers of the city of Milwaukee, rela­ have; which was referred to the Committee on Indian Affairs. tive to the proposed changes in the tariff on imported sugar-to the Mr. C.ALL presented the petition of J. C. Tilson and other citizens Committee on Ways and Means. of Polk County, Florida, praying the forfeiture of land granted by Also, petition of J. and A. Hiss, to purchase the Portage Lake Har­ Congress to the Sta..te of Florida for the construction of a railroad from bor-to the Committee on Commerce. A~elia Island to Tampa Bay, Florida, and that the settlers upon such Also, petition of Andrew Barton, praying for relief-to the Commit­ lands may be allowed to enter them under the homestead or pre-emp­ tee on Naval Affairs. tion laws; which was referred to the Committee on Public Lands. By Mr. WORTHINGTON: Petition of the Women's Silk Culture Mr. BUTLER presented thememorialofthe grand jury ofthe west­ Association of lllinois and the Northwest-to the Committee on Ap­ ern district of South Carolina to the presiding j ndge of the United States propriations. district court, favoring the erection of a. public building in the city of Also, petition of wholesale grocers of Peoria, ill., with reference to Greenville, S. C.; which was referred to the Committee on Public ta.riff duties on sugar-to the Committee on Ways and Means. Buildings and GrOlmds . .Also, petition of Isaac Mann, for pension-to the Committee on In­ l\Ir. LOGAN presented resolutions adopted by the 1\!illers' State As­ valid Pensions. sociation of illinois, favoring the passage of a bill regulating interstate commerce; which were referred to the Committee on Commerce. He also presented resolutions adopted by George H. Thomas Post, SEN.ATE. No.5, Grand Army of the Republic, Chicago, Ill., and a petition of .Acker Post, No. 21, Grand Army of the Republic, SaintPanl, Minn., Mo~D.A.Y, December 21, 1~85 . . praying Congress to purchase a picture of G~eral George H. Thomas, painted by a member of the former post; which were referred to the Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. E. D. HUNTLEY, D. D. Committee on the Library. The Journal of the proceedings of Friday last was read and approved. Mr. BLAIR presented the petition of Philander C. White, of Con­ . EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. cord, Mass., late a private in Company D, Fourteenth Regiment New The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before the Senate a communica­ Hampshire Volunteers, praying for arrears of pension; which was re­ tion from the Secretary of State, recommending the passage of an act ferred to the Committee on Pensions. 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 345

He also presented a petition of the Louisiana Education Society, The PRESIDENT pro tempore. That reference will be made if there praying temporary national aid to the public schools; which was re­ be no objection. ferred to the Committee on Education and Labor. lli. DAWES. The bill should go to the Committee on Indian Af­ Mr. HOAR presented the petition of Harriette R. Shattuck, presi­ fairs. dent of the National Woman's Suffrage Association, and other citizens The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Massaehusetts of Massaehusetts, praying Congress to submit to the States an amend­ suggests the reference of the bill to the Committee on Indian Affairs. ment to the Constitution which shall secure the ballot to women; which Mr. VAN WYCK. I suppose the proper reference for the bill would was referred to the Select Committee on Womau Suffrage. be to the Committee on Territories, as it provides for a Territorial gov­ 1r1r. VOORHEES presented the petition of Theophilus Fisk Mills, ernment for that Territory, a part of which has some lands belonging sculptor, of Washington, D. C., praying compensation for a plaster evidently to the United States. mold of the face and measurements for an equestrian statue of the Mr. DAWES. The question whether those lands belong to the late Genernl"J. A. Rawlins; which was referred to the Committee on United States has always been referred to the Committee on Indian the Library. Affairs heretofore, and upon that they have made reports at several REPORTS OF COIDHTTEES. times. The question whether the Indian Territory should be thus in­ vaded and in the center of it a Territorial government formed it seems Mr. EDMUNDS. I am instructed by the Committee on the Judi­ to me should be considered by the Committee on Indian Affairs. I do ciary, to which was referred the bill (S. 10) to amend an act entitled not see why the Committee on Territories should take charge of the ''An act to amend section 5352 of the Revised Statutes of the United Indian reservations. If they are to do so, it will relieve the Commit­ States, in reference to bigamy, and for other purposes," approved March tee on Indian Affairs of a very large share and a very difficult and la­ 22, 1882, to report the same favorably and without amendment. I borious part of their duty, and it had better be surrendered at once give notice that immediately after the holidays, which I suppose we and not by piecemeal. must a~nd to first, I shall endeavor to ask the Senate to act upon the No element of consideration enters into the propriety of the passage bill. of such a bill (of course I express no opinion about that propriety) The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The bill will be placed upon the whkh does not belong exclusively to the Committee on Indian Affairs. Calendar. There is the relation of that Territory to the Indians, the Indians to Mr. JACKSON. lam instructed by the Committee on the Judiciary, the Territory, the title which the Indians claim to have in the Terri­ to whom was referred the bill (S. 133) to :fix the salary of the judge of tory, and the effect of a Territorial government upon the Indians there, the district court of the United States for the district of Indiana, tore­ to whom it was by treaty set apart and by a treaty covenanted with port it adversely and ask its indefinite postponement, as we have already the United States to be forever theirs. Why should the Committee on reported from that committee a general bill covering the case. Indian Affairs, to whom the matters of the Indians have been committed Mr. VOORHEES. What is the bill? heretofore, be relieved of the subj.ect, and the Committee on Terri­ Mr. HARRISON. I will explain to my colleague that it · a bill in­ tories take charge of it simply because the word "Territory" has some troduced by me increasing the salary of the judge of our district to · application t{) that commHtee, while the subject-matter belongs exclu­ $5,000. The Committee on the Judiciary have reported a general bill sively to the Committee on Indi'ln Affairs? raising the salaries of all district judges to $5,000, and therefore this The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Does the Senator from Massaehn­ bill may be disposed of. setts move to refer the bill to the Committee on Indian Affairs? Mr. VOORHEES. That is satisfactory. Mr. DAWES. I make that motion, but I do not want to antagonize The PRESIDENT pro tempore. If there be no objection, the bill the Senator from Nebraska. will be considered as indefinitely postponed. Mr. VAN WYCK. Neither do I desire to antagonize the Senator Mr. HOAR. I am instructed by the Committee on the Judiciary, from , of course. I have no choice about the matter. I to whom was referred the bill (8. 3) to establish a uniform system of presumed that it was a clear case, and therefore it might be as well bankruptcy throughout the United States, to report an original bill on that the bill should go to the Committee on Territories. the subject. It is substantially the bill referred t:> the committee, but I will say to my friend that the bill carefully provides for the rights I report it in the form of an original bill. of the Indians. There is no attempt on the part of the bill, nor would The bill (S. 714) to establish a uniform system of bankruptcy through­ there be on the part of any committee of the Senate, to strike down out the Uniled Sta.tes was read twice by its title. the Indians in their rights. The object was to get a solution of this The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The bill will be placed on the Cal­ vexed question, which must be solved in some way. That is impera­ endar. tively demanded. I merely introduced the bill and suggested its refer­ Mr. HOAR. It would not of course be worth while to attempt to ence to the Committee on Territories for that reason. I have no sort bring up the bill to-day, but I give notice that as soon as it .is possible of objection to a reference to the Committee on Indian Affairs, but I after the holidays I shall ask the Senate to consider it. thought possibly it might go into the hands of the Committee on Terri­ MESSAGE FR0!\.1 THE HOUSE. tories, who can not be so much overburdened as the Committee on Indian Affairs; but still if the Committee on Indian Affairs will take eharge A message from the House of Representatives, by Mr. CLARK, its of it and make a speedy report to the body, I shall be satisfied. Clerk, announced that the House had passed the bill (S. 580) granting Mr. DAWES. I do not mean to criticise the bill or the motive of the a pension to Julia D. Grant. Senator from Nebraska. I oilly suggested the peculiar relations of all The message also announced that the House had concurred in the that question to the Indians and to the matters which the Committee amendment of the Senatetothejointresolution (H. Res. 1) authorizing on Indian Affairs have under consideration. If the Senator does nQt the Secretary of the Intet1or to use a portion of the contingent fund to object, I hope the bill will be referred to the Committee on Indian fit up rooms for the Commissioner of Patents. Affairs. The message further announced that the House had passed a concur­ Mr. VEST. I wish simply to remark, ro the Senator from Massa­ rent resolution providing that when the two Houses adjourn on Mon­ chusetts particularly, that there have been several of these bills in­ day, December 21,1885, they stand adjourned tmtil Tuesday, January troduced and they have always gone to the Committee on Territories. 5, 1886. The message also announced that that House had passed a joint reso­ I do not belong to either committee. I am not now upon the Commit­ tee on Territories and I am not upon the Committee on Indian Affairs, tion (H. Res. 2) to pay the officers and employes of the Senate and House but there have been within my recollection some :five or six of these bills of Representatives their respective salaries for the month of December, introduced in the Senate and they have always gone, without exception, 1885, on the 21st day of said month; in which it requested the concur­ to the Committee on Territories. rence of the Senate. Mr. DAWES. I would inquire of the Senator from Missouri, from BILLS INTRODUCED. his knowledge of the peculiarities of the question, whether he does not 1\Ir. VAN WYCK introduced a bill (S. 715) to provide for the sale of think the Committee on Indian Affairs ought-I do not know whether a part of the reservation, situate in the State of Nebraska, of the Winne­ they are quite capable of it-to consider all the matters connected with bago tribe of Indians, and for other purposes ; which was read twice by that Territory? its title, and referred to the Committee on Indians Affairs. Mr. VEST. I heard only imperfectly the title of the bpJ. As I He also introduced a bill (S. 716) to establish an additional land· caught it from the reading, it is a bill to organize a government in the office in the State of Nebraska ; which was read twice by its title, and Indian Territory. referred to the Committee on Public Lands. Mr. DAWES. A government with special reference to Oklahoma, as He also introduced a bill (S. 717) to provide for the organization of I heard it. all that part of the territory of the United States now known as the In­ Mr. VEST. That has been the nature of the bills that have hereto­ dian Territory and the "Public Land Strip " into a Territory, to be fore been introduced. As a matter of course they embrace, yon might known as the Territory of Oklahoma, to provide a temporary govern­ say, two distinct ideas. One is the formation of a Territorial govern­ ment for the same, for the allotment of homesteads to the Indians in ment and all the details as to organization, and the other is as to pro­ severalty, and to open unoccupied lands to actual settlers; which was viding for the rights of the Indians who are already in possession there. read twice by its title. The question may be said then to be one a part of which should go to Mr. VANWYCK. I ask that the bill be referred to the Committee the Committee on Territories and. a part to the Committee on Indian on Territories. Affairs; but the primary object being the organization of a Terri tory the 346 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DEOEl\fBER 21,

Senate has heretofore always sent such bills to the Territorial Commit­ paymaster United States Army; which was read twice by its title, and, tee. Of course nobody will question the ability of the distinguished with the accompanying papers, referred t.o the Committee on Military chairman nor of any member of the Committee on Indian Affairs to deal Affairs. . with the question. I only speak in the interests of public business as He also introduced a bill (S. 726) granting a pension to Theodore M. to tha precedents which the Senate has established. Piatt; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Commit­ Mr. DAWES. I have no desire to shrink from the question of esblb­ tee on Pensions. lishing a Territorial government in the Indian Territory. My own opin­ He also introduced a bill (S. 727) grnnting a pension to LonaS. Fitz­ ion about it is that it must come in some way or other. It is a matter gerald; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Commit­ which has arrested :the attention of the Committee on Indian Affairs, tee on Pensions. and has impressed itself very much of late upon the attention of the Mr. VANCE introduced a bill {S. 728) authorizing the removal ot committee; but there are so many things connected with the future of the statue of :rtfaj . Gen. John A. Rawlins from its pr ent location to the Indians in that section, which ca.n not be ignored in any Territorial a site to be selected by the Secretary of War; which was read twice by gove1·nment possible there, that I do think that if the Committee ou In­ its title, and referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. . dian Affairs are to be held responsible at all for what is done with the Mr. HARRIS introduced a bill (S. 729) for the relief of Rear-Admiral Indians they should have charge of that matter. Carter; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Commit­ Ur. CONGER. I suppo e the only object of the Committee on Ter­ tee on Naval Affairs. ritories is to take charge of the Territories of the United States, to pro­ He also introduced a bill (S. 730) for the relief of E. W. Crozier, vide for their organization, and recommend measures of law for their executrix of the last will and testament of Dr. C. W. Crozier, of Ten­ government. That is what the committee were appointed for. But if nessee; which was read twice by its title, and, with the accompanying there is an Indian in such a Territory the bill m ns.t go to the Committee papers, referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. on Indian Affairs, apparently. 1\ir. BLACKBURN (by reque t) introduced a bill (S. 731) for the Mr. DAWES. The Territory of the United States, if the Senator reliefofthe estate of C. 1\I. Briggs, deceased; which was read twice by will allow me-- its title, and referred to the Committee on Claims. Mr. CONGER. In a moment; the Senator has .made his remarks. 1\Ir. JONES, of Arkansas, introduced a bill (S. 732) for the relief of Now there is hardly a Territory in the United States but what has a Silas F. Feild, one of the sureties on the bond of John G. Halliburton, good many Indians in it, and if the rule should apply in this case it deceased, late marshal of the United States in and for the eastern dis­ should in regard to the management of all Territorial questiol1S. My trict of Arkansas; which was reau twice by its title, and referred to the impr ·on is that it would be a good thing to keep this succession of Committ£e on Claims. bills in regard to the Indian Territory before the Committee on Terri­ He also introduced a bill (S. 733) for the relief of Ed ward Fitzgerald, tori , because they have ha.d charge of the examination of them for trustee of the Catholic church at Fort Smith, Ark.; which was read years. I do not see that it conflic~ at all with the question which the twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Claims. Senator from Massachusetts proposes; but it is a doubtful question, and He also (by request) introduced a bill (S. 734) for the relief of the with all humility I might say for the Committee on Territories that estate of William Wright; which was t:ead twice by its title, andre­ they may not be able to copewiththelndianqnestion which is involved ferred to the Committee on Claims. in it, and I have no particular desire for myself, and I do not know that He also {by request) introduced a bill (S. 735) granting a pension to the chairman of that committee has, to take even what belongs to it l\Iargaret C. Bupp; which was read twice by its title, aud referred to if the Committee on Indian Affairs desires to encroach upon its juris­ the Committee on Pensions. diction. The subject has been for teri or fifteen years before the Com­ Heal o (by request) introduced a bill (S. 736) granting a· pension to mittee on Indian Affairs and the Committee on Territories in one way Jame D. Remy; which was read twice by its title, and referred to and another, and there has been·no action as yet; and I was very happy the Committee gn Pensions. to learn by the remarks of the distinguished chairman of the Commit­ Mr. BERRY introduced a bill (S. 737) for the relief of Prairie County, tee on Indian Affairs that they bad thought a little about the subject Arbnsas; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ and were willing to take charge of it. In that view I make no objec­ mittee on Claims. tion to the "proposed reference. He also introduced a bill (S. 738) for the relief of James Clifford; Mr. UAXEY. I wish to say, in addition to what the chairman of which was read twice by its-title, and referred to the Committee on the Committee on Indian Affairs has said, that under a resolution of the Claims. Senate the Committee onindian.A:ffairswere instructed to inquire what He also introduced a bill (S. 739) for the relief of James H. Hamil­ legislation, if any, was necessary in regard to the relations between the ton; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee United States Government and the Indians, and in the discharge of on Claims. that duty went into that country, the chairman himself and myself He also intl'odnced a bill (S. 740) for the relief of Pryor N. Lea; among others, and made a very thorough investigation with a view to which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on determine what legislation was necessary. The committee, therefore, Claims. supplied itself~ by direction of the Senate, with the proper infonnatio~ He also introduced a bill (S. 741) for the relief of J. H. T. :rt!ain; as I think, at least as I hope. which was Tead twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on In respect to the Indian Territory I beg to say that it is sui gen.e1·is. Claims. ' It does not bear the same relation to the United States as any other He also introduced a bill (S. 742) for the relief of the heirs of the Territory whatever, and I think the proper committee to look into the late John Rogers, deceased; which was read twice by its title, andre­ affairs connected with the Indian Territory istheC'A>mmittee on Indian ferred to the Committee on Public Lands. Affairs. So I think the reference ought to be to that committee. Mr. BECK introduced a bill (S. 743) for the relief of Mrs. Martha · The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The bill will be referred to the Com­ Vaughn and the legal representatives of 1\Irs. Louisa Jackman; which mittee on Indian Affairs; if there be no objection. The Chair hears was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Military none. Affairs. 1\!r. MAXEY introduced a bill (S. 718) for the relief of Francis Gil· Mr. McPHERSON introdued a bill (S. 744) for the relief of the offi­ beau; which was read twice by its title, and, with the accompanying cers and crew of the United States steamer Monitor who participated paper, referred to the Committee on Claims. in the action with therebeliron-cladMerrima.c on the 9th day of March, He also introduced a bill (S. 719) for the relief of Thomas F. Pur­ 1862; which was read twice by .its title, and referred to the Committee nell; which was read twice by its title, and, with the accompanying on Naval Affairs. paper, referred to the Committee on Claims. Healsointroduceda bill (S. 745) for the relief of Betts, Nichols &Co.; Mr. DAWES introduced a bill (S. 720) for the relief of Albion S. which was rea.d twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Keith, late of the United Stato..s Navy; which was read twice by its Finance. title and referred to the Committee on Naval Affairs. He also introduced a bill (S. 746) for thereliefofLanm.an & Kemp; Mr. COKE introduced a bill (S. 721) to establish a national live­ which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on stock highway and to promote commerce in live-stock between the Finance. States; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Commit- He also introduced a bill (S. 747) for the relief of Capt. A.:ndl·ew W. tee on Commerce. · - Johnson; which w.as·read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ Mr. VOORHEES introduced a bill (S. 722) for increase of pension to mittee on Naval Affairs. l\1rs. E. M:. Boggs; which wa.s read twice by its title, and, with the He al o introduced a bill (8. 748) for the relief of Joseph E. Afoorc; accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Pensions. which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Heal o introduced a bill ( . 723) for the relief of Julius A. Kaiser; Claims. which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on ?!Ir. PAYNE (by request) introduced a bill (S. 749) for the relief of Naval .Affairs. R. . Huston & Co.; which was read twice by its title, and referred to He also introduced a bill (S. 724) granting a pension to Charles E. the Committee on Claims. Creager; which was read twice by its title, :md referred to the Committee .Mr. MORGAN introduced a bill {S. 750) to amend and enlarge the on Pensions. act approved June 18, 1 78, entitled "An act to provide fm the distri­ He also introduced a bill (S. 725) for the relief of Uaj. G. W. Candee, bution of the awards made under the convention between the United

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States of Am.e.rica and the Republic of Mexico, concluded on the 4th day sion to Timothy Kibby; which was read twicebyitstitle, and, with the of July, 1868;" which was read the fu:st time by its title, :md ordered to accompanying papers, referred to the Comtnittee on Pensions. lie on the table. Mr. LOGAN introduced a bill (8. 776) granting arrears of pension to Mr. BROWN introduced a bill (S. 751) for the erection of a public Catharine La,njgan; which was read twice by its title, and referred to building at Columbus, Ga.; which was read twice by its title, and re­ the Committee on Pensions. ferred to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. He a1so introduced a bill ( . 777) to increase the efficiency of the Army He also introduced a bill (S. 752) to authorize suits in certain cases of the United States; which was read twice by its title, and referred to therein named; which was read twice by its title. the Committee on Military Affairs. Mr. BROWN. As the bill relates to certain claims fur property taken He also introduced a bill (S. 778) to equalize the bounties of soldiers, during the war, I move that it be referred to the Committee on Claims. sailors, and marines of the late war for the Union; whicp. was read The motion was agreed to. twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. 1\Ir. CONGER introduced a bill (S. 753) to provide for the sale of He also introduced a. bill (S. 779} for pensioning prisone.t of war the old site of Fort Brady, 1\fichigan, and for a new site and the construc­ who were confined in confederate military prisons during the late war; tion of suitable buildings thereon; which was read twice by its title, and which was read twice by its title, and raferred to the Committee on referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. Pensions. Mr. CULLOM introduced a. bill (S. 754) for the relief of R. H. Shrop­ He also introduced a bill (S. 780) to regulate appointments in the shire; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee Marine-Hospital Service oftbe United States; which was read twice by on Claims. its title, and referred to the Committee on Commerce. He also introduced a bill (S. 755) to provide for the establishment of a Mr. COCKRELL introduced a bill (S. 781) granting a pension to postal telegraph system; which was read twice by its title, and referred John T. Sayers; whiah was read twice by its title, and referred to the to the Committee on Post-Offices and Post-Roads. Committee on Pensions. 1tlr. PIKE (by request) introduced a bill (S. 756) for the relief of He also introduced a bill (S. 782) for the relief of Jacob Swofford; the Greensburg Limestone Company, W. W. Lowe·& Co., .and JohnL. which was read twice by its title, and, with the accompanying papers, Scanlon; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ referred to the Committee on MilitarY Affairs. mittee on Claims. Mr. PLUMB introduced a bill (S~ 783) granting a pension to D. B. 1\lr. HOAR introduced a bill (S. 757) granting a pension to Helen Randall; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ Plunkett; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ mittee on Pensions. mittee on Pensions. He also introduced a bill (S. 784) granting a pension to William A. Mr. CAMERON introdn.ced a bill (S. 758) for the relief of Jacob Griffin; which was read twice by its title, and, with the accompanying Dundore; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com~ papers, referred to the Committee on Pensions. mittee on Naval Affairs. He also introduced a bill (S. 785) granting a pension to George Ham; Mr. STANFORD introduced a bill (S. 759) for the relief of George which was read twice by its title, and, with the .accompanying papers, C. Parkinson; which was read twice by its title., and, with the accom­ referred to the Committee on Pensions. panying papers, referred to the Committee on Claims. He also introduced a bill (S. 786) granting a pension to James C. He also introduced a bill (S. 760) for the relief of Fred. E. Brooks; Ledbetter; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com- which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on mittee on Pensions. · Claim.s. He also introduced a bill (S. 787) granting a pensio:n to Reuben Far­ Mr. WILSON, of , introduced a bill (S. 761) granting a pension num; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee to William Webster; which was read twice by its title, and, with the on Pensions. accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Pensions. He also introduced a bill (S. 7BB)grantingapensionto JohnL. Bruce; 1\ir. MILLER, of , introduced a bill (S. 762) to prevent which wasre:ul twice by its title, and, with the accompanying papers, obstructiveandinjuriousdepositswithin.theharborandadjacentwaters referred to the Committee on Pension . of New York city by dumping or otherwise, and to punish and pre-.ent He also introduced a bill ( . 7 9) granting a pension to JohnS. Will­ such offenses, and other provisions in connection therewith; which was iams; which was read twice byits title, andreterred to the Committee read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Commerce. on Pensions. • :Mr. ALLISON introduced a bill (S. 763) for the erection of a public He also introduced a bill (S. 790) granting a pension to Jesse C. Os­ building at Sioux City, Iowa; which was read twice by ita title, and good; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committ.ee referred to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. on Pensions. He also introduced a bill (S. 764) to authorize the Secretary of the He also introduced a bill (S. 791) granting a pension to George W. Interior to issue to George K. Otis duplicates of certain land~warrants De Motte; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ lost w bile in the possession of the officers of the Government; which was mittee on Pensions. read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Public Lands. He_also introduced a bill (S. 792) to remove the charge of desertion Mr. TELLER (by request) introduced a bill ( . 765) for the relief against ]\finer Ellis; which was read twice by its title, .and referred to of the heirs of John S. Fillmore, deceased; which was read twice by the Committee on Military Affairs. its title, and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. He also introduced a bill (S. 793} fo:r the relief of Louis Coon; which He also (by request) introduced a bill (S. 766) for the relief of Fmn~ was read twice by its title, and referred to ;;he Committee on Military cis Denmead; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Affairs. Committee on the District of Columbia. He also introduced a bill (S. 794) for the relief of A. H. Von Luett­ He also (by request) introduced a. bill (S. 767) for the relief of John witz; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee Leathers; which was read twice by its title, and-referred to the Com­ on Military Aft.'lirs. mittee on Claims. He also introduced a bill (S. 795) ament'.atory of an act to jncorpo­ He also (by request)introduced a bill (S. 768)forthe relief of George mte the ColumbiaRailwayCompany; wh:ich was read twice by its title, A. Jaeger; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Com­ and referred to the Committee on tb.e Distri.ct of Columbia. mittee on Milit..'lTY Affairs. Mr. SAWYER introduced a bill (S. 7961 fo:r the relief of Benjamin He also introduced a bill (S. 769) to provide for the removal of the F. Landis; ,..,.bjch was read twice by its tide, and referred to the Com- Southern Ute Indians from Colorado; which was read twice by its title, mittee on l\lilitary Affairs._ · and referred to the -Committee on Indian Affairs. 1\:Ir. BLAIR introduced a bill (S. 797) .o provide for the study of He also introduced a bill (S. 770) relatingtolandsinColoradolately physiology and hygiene and the effect of intoxicating, narcotic, and occupied by the Uncompahgre and White River Ute Indians; which poisonous substances upon life, health, and welfare by the pupils in the was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Public public Schools of the Territories and of the District of Columbia, and Lands. · . in the Military and Naval .Academies; whieh was read twice by its title, Mr. BLAIR introduced a bill (S. 771) to pro\ide for the erection ot and 1·eferred to the Committee on Education and Labor. a public building in the city of Dover, in the State of New Hampshire; !Ir. BLAIR. A like bill has alrezdy been introduced by myself which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on several days ago. This bill, however, is introduced by request of tem­ Public Buildings and Grounds. perance societies, and especially the 'Woman's Christian Temperance He also introduceq a bill (S. 772) to provide for the erection of a Union, they having been instrumental in securing its passage substan­ public building in the city of Nashua, in the State of New Hampshire; tin.lly in this form in fourteen of the Sta"es already; and they desire to which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on be heard by the committee and by Congress, and to press the passage Public Buildings and Grounds. of the bill in this form. · He also introduced a bill (S. 773) granting a pension to 111. Louise 11.1)". HOAR introduced a bill (S. 798) br the relief of :r,L H. Collins; _ Butler; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Commit­ which was read twice by its title, and 1eferred to the Committee on tee on Pensions. Patents. He also intr duced a bill (S. 774) for the relief of Frances l\IcNeil 1\Ir. RANSOM introduced a bill (S. 799) providing for the erection Potter; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee of a public building at WiustoR-S::tlem, N. C.; which was read twice by on Pensions. its title, and referred to the Committee on Public Ruildi.I>Ilf! and Mr. SHERMAN introduced a. bill (S. 775) granting arrears of pen- Grounds. 348 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECEMBER 21,

Mr. PLUMB introduced a joint resolution (S. R. 18) for the relief ter of foreign affairs. One is that, the custom prevails in diplomacy of the Kansas City, Fort Scott and Gulf Railroad Company; which of obtaining the agrement or consent of a foreign government before was read twice by its title, and referred to the Committee on Claims. sending a minister near its court. The second is that the position of CASE OF A. M. KElLEY. a foreign minister wedded by civil marriage to a Jewess is impossible and untenable in the city of Vienna, in that kingdom. Jtlr. VEST introduced a joint resolution (S. R. 17) relating to the Mr. Bayard, the Secretary of State, promptly responded to this com­ appointment of .Anthony M. Kelley as envoy extraordinary and min­ mll)lication by stating in the first place (and I shall not read his letter ister plenipotentiary to .Austria-Hungary; which was read the first at length) that no such practice as that of securing first the consent of time at length, as follows: a foreign government obtained in this country. The Secretary ofState Whereas the correspondc::tce between the Governments of the United States in his and Austria-Hungary, which has been transmitted t.o the Senate by the Presi­ denied emphatically reply that any such practice had obtained dent:, shows that Hon. Anthony M. Kelley, of Virginia., was, on April 29 1885, in this country as first obtaining the consent or agrmnent, as it is appointed envoy extraordinary and minister 'plenipotentiary to Austria-Hun­ termed in diplomacy, of any foreign country to the accredited minister r;a.ry; that on May 9, 1885, the Government of the United States was officially notified by the Government of Austria-Hungary that "the position of a foreign near its court, and he further states that upon an examination of all envoy wedded to a Jewess l;>y civil marriage would be untenable and even im­ the precedents in the State Department no such instance has been found. possible in Vienna," and on Augustt, 1885, the Government of Austria-Hungary To dispose of that position now it is only necessary to say that subse­ declared its determination not to receive l\Ir. Kelley as envoy extraordinary quently Count Kalnoky withdrew that assertion and admitted that IWd minister plenipotentiary from the United States. Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States in Congress the United States were not bound by a precedent which had obtained assembled, That the position assumed by this Government and the principles only upon the Continent and in European countries. affirmed in .said correspondence by the Secretary of State meet with our un- Mr. HOAR. May I inquire of the Senator from Missouri whether qualified fJ.pprobation. • The Constitution of the United States provides that "no religious test shoJI he is informed that .Austria has ever asked such an assent from us first? ever be required as a qualification to any office or pub!.-lc trust under the United Jtfr. VEST. I only say, and I quote from the letter of the Secretary States;" and, whilst sincerely anxious to maintain friendly relations with Aus­ tria-Hungary and all other governments, the people of the United States deny of State, that he has found no such case; that he examined critically the right of any foreign government to assert against any citizen of this coun­ and closely the files of the State Department, and no such practice in try disqualification for office by reason of his religious belief or that of his any single instance has ever obtained in this country. We have ac­ family. credited our ministers without consulting or notifying the government Mr. VEST. :Mr. President, it is my purpose, unless some other sug­ near whose court they were sent. gestion should be made by a member of the Senate, to move the refer­ .As I stated before, Count Kalnoky subsequently withdraws, I will ence of this resolution, together with the President's message trans­ not say that pretense but that assertion, and admits that the United mitting to the Senate this correspondence, to the Committee on Foreign States has never followed such a practice, and that it obtained only in Relations. I ask the indulgence of the Senate to make one or two re­ European colmtries. marks before I make that motion. But as to the second point made in the communication from the Gov­ I take it for granted that if Senators have not read the correspond­ ernment of .Austria-Hungary, it permeates and pervades the entire cor­ ence they have had their attention attracted to it by the wide discus­ respondence; it is affirmed directly and indirectly, over and over again sion in the public press upon the subject. to the end of the correspondence, namely, that the Government of .Aus­ I prefer that the resolution should go to the Committee on Foreign tria-Hungary can not receive Mr. Kelley because in plain language he Relations, because there seems to be a difference of statement between is" wedded to a Jewess by civil marriage," and his position would the Governmen1 of .Austria-Hungary and that of the United States in therefore be "untenable and even impossible in Vienna." regard to the understanding of the correspondence as it progressed. Without reading the correspondence at length, for I do not seek to In April last, as the Senate iB very well awn.re, Mr. .Anthony l\I. detain the Senate, I call attention to the appearance for the first time, Kelley, of Richmond, Va., was appointed by the · Government of the June 11, 1885, of any additional reason besides that whichihaveread. United States er.voy extraordinary and minister plenipotentiary to the Then Baron Von Schaeffer corrinnmkates officially to the Government Government of Italy, and on the 3d day of .April, I believe, that ap­ of the United States a statement. Mr. Bayard in the mean time, as pointment was confirmed by the Senate. So soon as-notice of the ap­ Secretary of State, I should say had distinctly and emphatically stated pointment reached the Government of Italy the Government of the to the Government of .Austria-Hungary that with the constitutional United States was notified through the Italian minister in this city provisions existing in this country, with our traditional history, and that for personal reasons the appointment of l\Ir. Kelley was not ac­ with the unanimous and unbroken sentiment of our people upon the ceptable to the Kingdomofltaly, and it was stated in a perfectlyfrauk subject, the Government of the United States could not accede to the and courteous manner that in 1871, at a public meeting in the city of proposition or admit it for an instant that any citizen of the United Richmond, Mr. Keiley had made statements in regard to Victor Eman-' States could be deprived .really of an office to which he had been ap­ uel, the father of the present reigning king in Italy, King Humbert, pointed by this Government, by reason of his religious opinions or which statements were exceedingly offensive to his son, who is now those of any of his family; that it was the duty of this Government to upon the throne. These statements were made in a public speech by state to the world that the corner-stone and foundation of our repub­ .Mr. Kelley in regard to the occupation of Rome by Victor Emanuel, lican institutions was religious liberty to the largest extent; and when the virtual imprisonment of the Pope in the Vatican, and the depri va­ they assigned as a reason for refusing an .American citizen otherwise tion of all his civil power. It is not my purpose to discuss that ad­ acceptable and otherwise qualified to a position of honor, trust, or dress of Mr. Keiley or the subject-matter of it. He is a member of profit, it was an attack upon the principle on which our Government the Roman Catholic Churcll, and spoke, as a matter of course, from a was based and we intended to meet it. standpoint which I do not occupy. Mr. H.AWLEY. :May I ask the Senator a question? That speech was reported in the public press and conspicuously in Mr. VEST. Certainly. . the New York Herald. It reached the Kingdom of Italy, and there­ Mr. H.A WLEY. I shall be glad if what I conjecture shall_turn out sult, to make a summary ot the whole matter, was that the State De­ to be true-- partment of the United Strtes recognized the right of the Government Mr. TELLER. There is so much noise in the Chamber thatitisal­ of Ita1y to object to the re(eption of Mr. Kelley as a. minister, and on most impossible to hear either of the Senators. the 28th of April Mr. KelleY; on his own motion, resigned as minister to The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Senators will please come to order Italy. . and suspend conversation in the Chamber. Immediately afterward, m the 29th of April, he was appointed min­ Mr. H.A WLEY. I got an impression from hastily reading the cor­ ister plenipotentiary and envoy extraordinaryto .Austria-Hungary, and respondence that probably the .Austrian Government did not mean to the Austrian minister was notified of his appointment. Ona the 7th say that there was any legal or high political" objection to Mr. Keiley day of May Mr. Kelley with his family sailed from the port of New because of his having married a J ewess, but to intimate that socially York, and on the 8th day of May the minister of Austria-Hungary it would be very disagreeable to him. Is not that justified by the cor­ transmitted to the Secretary of State a telegram received from Count respondence.? Kalnoky, the minister of foreign affairs for .Austria-Hungary, in th£se Mr. VEST. I was about to refer to the point advanced by tho Gov­ words: ernment of .Austria-Hungary, and I will come to it in a. moment. VIENNA, May 8, 1885. In reply to the assertion of Mr. Bayard that this Government would We regret the nomination of Mr. Kelley as minister plenipotentiary and en­ not permit the Government of.Austria-Hungary to make this objection~ voy extraordinary to the imperiaJ COUI-t and his sudden departure from America, as here, too, like in Rome, prevail scruples against this choice. because, as a matter of course, it was simply a protesir-Baron Von Please direct in the most friencly way the attention of the American Govern­ Schaeffer informed Mr. Bayard that he was instructed by his govern­ ment to the generally existing ditlomatic practice to ask previously t-o any nomi­ ment to enter into no discussion on the subject of religious toleration, nation of a foreign minister the tgrement (consent) of the government to which he is accredited. • that the Government of .Austria-Hungary permitted entire liberty of You are therefore requested t< earnestly entreat them that the newly nomi­ conscience, and then for the first time appears the allegation to which nated minister may not reach Vienna before our confidential consent to his nomi~ the Senator from Connecticut has referred, that the meaning of the nation has taken place. The position of a. foreign enroy wedded to a. Jewess by civil marriage would Government of .Austria-Hungary was that the position of an Americ..'ln be nntenable and even impossi1le in Vienna. minister who was wedded to a. Jewess by civil marriage would be such COUNT KALNOKY­ as to deprive him of all social influence and diplomatic.consideration lt will be noticed from tl.is telegram that two positions are assumed at the court of .Austria-Hungary. by the Government of Aus1ria.-Hungary through its accredited minis- In Austria-Hungary, u.s well as in the United States, the constitution grant! 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 349 enti~e liberty to all forms of religions worship. Our objections to Mr. Kelley's involved here. I think the key to all this situation is found in the appointment as minister of the United States to the imperial court are founded upon wnnt of political tact evinced on his part on a former occasion, in conse­ letter of Baron Schaeffer to Mr. Bayard of the 11th day of June and the quence of which a friendly power declined to receive him, and upon the cer­ letter of 111r. Bayard to Mr. McLane, in which he himself interprets, I tainty that his domestic relations preclude that reception of him by Vienna so­ think, this whole dis~ussion very correctly, ofthe date of May 27. ciety which we judge desirable for the representative of the United States, In the first pla.ce, Austria is the neighbor of Italy. Italy having de­ with which power we wish to continue the friendly relations existing between the two Governments. clined to receive Mr. Kelley, Austria said in subEt.ance it would be an Mr. President, it is very obvious that, with the indirection of diplo­ unneighborly act to receive him as minister; and in addition to that it matic correspondence and assertion, the Government of Austria--Hun­ was stated that because he had married a J ewess Vienna society would gary simply means to say that any gentleman who has married a not receive him; and as Mr. Kelley's duties there would be wholly social, Jewess can not obtain the position to which he is entitled in the court and as he could not get into society unless the Austrian Government of Austria-Hungary or the society of Vienna, which is preci')ely the took him in under its wing, and as it could not properly undertake sn.me thing, by reason of that marriage; that position has never been this, and thereby do violence tO the social code of Vienna, it therefore abandoned from the beginning to the end of the correspondence; it is advised that he be left at home. Vienna society would not receive the salient point throughout the whole; and subsequently acting upon him, and his position would therefore necessarily be hampered and dis­ that reason the court of Austria-Hungary rejected Mr. Kelley. These agreeable, and they thought on the whole_he had better not go there; and are substantially t.he fads as they appear from the correspondence. I think so too. I do not propose to detain the Senate by elaborating-the que,...~ions of That that is the whole of it, appears from the letter of 11Ir. Bayard internationa.l law which are involved in this matter. 'They are very of the 27th day of 111ay to Mr. McLane, in which he makes himself, I plain and very simple. If the Government of Austria-Hungary had think, the only satisfactory interpretation of this whole correspondence. simply contented itself with saying that it had personal objections, as He is directing Mr. McLane to interrupt the progress of Mr. Keiley did the Government of Italy, to Mr. Kelley, then the Government of toward the Austrian dominions, and goes on to say: the United States, acting as it did in the case of Italy, would have rec­ The Austrian minister communicated Mr. Bayard's note to his government and nothing further had been heard from him. It was not understood that the ognized the right of Anstrin.-Hungary to have made the objection, and Austrian Government distinctly refused to receive Mr. Keiley for the reasons :Mr. Kelley would have resigned, as he subsequently did resign, and as stated, but it holds out the threat of social ost~cism, which would make the po­ he had before resigned the Italian mission. But when the Government sition of the minister painful and perhaps untenable. of Austria-Hungary put its rejection of Mr. Kelley on the ground that It was purely and solely and only, according to Mr. Bayard on the his wife entertained certain religious opinions, this Government was 27th of May, a social question. That is exactly what it remains now; bound, in my judgment, by its constitutional provisions, by its tradi­ and it is a social question, because the only duty performed by our min­ tions, and by the opinions of its people to assert respectfully but firmly ister at the Austrian court, as I presume also the sole and only duties to that foreign government that we can not for one instant admit the of our minister at any court, are social duties. I am glad; therefore, justice of any such objection to an American citizen. that this case has arisen, not because a good man has been deprived of I speak frankly and perhaps earnestly because the great political leader the salary of a good office, but because the attention of the country has in whose doctrines I believe, in whose public life I feel an especial pride, been called to the fact that we pay a large sum of money to keep up a is peculiarly the author of the doctrine of religious toleration in the ·service which is purely ornamental. I say "ornamental;" I can not United States. It is a singular fact, but nevertheless a fact, that, out even say so much as that. If what I have heard about the attire of the . of the thirteen colonies which achieved independence from the British people whom we send abroad, and their general performance at the Crown, prior to the revolution there were but three that admitted lib­ various capitals to which they are accredited be true, then, to "my un­ erty of conscience to its fullest extent, and those three color..ies were tutored vision," I should think they were not even ornamental; cer­ Rhode Island, Maryland, and Pennsylvania. In the others there were tainly they would not be edifying west of the Mississippi River. In statutes for a number of yen,rs of a stringent-I was about to say bar­ the letter of Baron Scha~ffer to Mr. Bayard of the 11th of J nne the mat­ barons-character, including Virginia and some of the Southern States, ter is set out distinctly as follows: against llie right of any citizen to worship God according to the dic­ In Austria-Hungary, as well as in the United States, the constitution grants tates of his own conscience, but he was compelled to abide by the dictates en tire liberty to all forms of religi01~s worship. of the established church. Mr. Jefferson, in his autobiography, written Nothing can be more emph~tic than that. I believe that to be true, when he was seventy-seven years old,gi ves a graphic account of the condi­ and that is stated for the purpose of setting forth distinctly that no tion ofaffairs in Virginia when he returned after writing the Declaration religions question was involved in this refusal to receive Mr. Keiley. of Independence. He found the established church with a. licentious Baron Schaeffer continues: clergy, who were simply adjuncts of the great houses where high play Om· objections to Mr. Keiley's appointment as minister of ·the United St~tes and old Madeira rewarded complaisant ministry. to the imperial court are founded upon want of political tact evinced on his part on a former occasion, in consequence of which a friendly power declined tore­ The first act of Mr. Jefferson when he left the Continental Congress ceive him- and became a member of the Virginia house of burgesses, was to In other words h~ had made such utterance as would make his pres­ attack the doctrine of the union of church and state, and assert the ence offensive at Rome, and Austria, desiring to keep on the good side of fullest right of freedom of conscience and religions opinion. In his Italy and remain in that neighborly frame of mind which the conti­ autobiography, written when he was se>enty-seven years old, as I have guity of their borders naturally enforced, did not want to receive him stated, he says this was the most terrible struggle of his long and aud thought it best he should not come- eventful career. Against him were united all the great families of and upon the certainty that his domestic relations preclude tbat reception of Virginia, almost without exception, and, more than all, the established him by Vienna society which we judge desirable for the representative of the chmch, with its ministers and laity, who resented hia attack upon United States, with which power we wish to continue the friendly 1·elations church and state as a sacrilege and as a personal outrage upon them­ existing between the two governments. selves. So terrible was the struggle that the enmities which it engen­ In other words, in plain English, Mr. Kelley was appointed to per­ dered pursued Mr. Jefferson through life and assailed his memory form some social duties about the court of Vienna, and he could not after death. Jefferson had been a member of the house of burgesses do these unless the Austrian Emperor should receive him at the ''draw­ of Virginia, of the Continental Congress, governor of Virginia, min­ ing-rooms" at which the nobility and others of social standing are re­ ister to France, Secretary of State, Vice-PresidentandPresidentofthe ceived, because the people who have that standing would not associate United States; but in the epitaph written by his own hands, to be placed with Mr. Reiley. This seems, of course, a little bit harsh in this coun­ upon the stone that marked his grave, were only the words: ' ' Here was try, where there is no social distinction of the kind here set up-except buried Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of American Inde­ at one hotel, I believe, at Saratogn,. I think the:re is perhaps at Sara­ pendence and of the statute of Virginia ior religious freedom, and father toga a hotel where a social distinction of this kind is recognized; but as of the UniversityofVirginia;" and if there be one of these great achieve­ ageneral rule it is not recognized, aml it seems a little hard generally. ments greater than the other, it was that which gave to every freeman I am told, too, that some gentlemen who have come o>er on this side npnn this continent the right to bend his knee to the God of his own in an official capacity, 'With domestic relations which were not of a kind adoration in his own way. This principle, attacked now in this cor­ that were in vogae anywhere in this country, except possibly in the respondence, is, as Mr. Bayard has properly said, sac1·ed to every Ameri­ limited area of the Salt Lake Valley, have felt a little bit putout tbatwe can citizen and the corner-stone of our institutions. I am glad that the did not think well of those social relations; and there have been some Department ·of State bas assumed this position, and I sincerely hope intimations, I have understood, at timesratberplain, that persons who that it may receive the indorsement of both Houses of our national Con­ came in that way could not be·expected to participate, very exteusi vely · gress. at any rntc, in the social ordinances of Washington. Now, sir, I move the reference of this joint resolution, together with I think, with the Senator from Missouri, the reason was not a very tl1e rnessnge of the President and accompanying papers, to the Com­ good ont-that is to say, judging it in a large way; but thereasou was mittee on Foreign Helations. not "IThat :Mr. Bayard argned so strenuously and so very well, and 1\Ir. r L U.MB. I think this correspondence and this whole occurrence nothing could have exceeded the ability of the disquisition which he illustrates more perfectly and fully what we accomplish by what we has put forth in this correspondence upon the subject of religious liberty, call our diplomatic service than anything else which bas recently taken in which I entirely concur; but it is wide of the mark. No StH:h sub­ place; and I am unwilling tbn.t this resolution shall go to the Commit­ ject appears in the corre>pondence in any way, except as he hims:!lf put tee on Foreign Relations without briefly calling attention to it. it in, ' . I think myself that there is no question of religious liberty whatever Bot I am reminued that I have hearil soille of my legal friend.~ s.1.y 350 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECEMBER 21,

at times that there is very often a good decision founded upon a very On motion of· Mr. 1\llTCHELL, of Pennsylvania, it was poor reason. Ordered, That the papers in the case of Richard C. Ridgway on the file of the Shortly after this U r. Kelley was appointed to Italy, and in anticipa­ Senate be refe1Ted to the Committee on Claims, no adverse repo11 having been tion of his going a dinner was given him n,t Richmond, at which he made made. · a speech which was reported in the newspapers, and the last time I saw On motion of Mr. <_;ON"GER, it was it it was made the subject of acartoonin an Administration illustrated Ordered, 7'hat the papers in connection with enat e bill providing for the sale newspaper. So I am warranted in assuming that the report which I of the Fort Brady military rcsen·alion, in Michigan, be withdrawn from the file of the Senate and referred to the Committee on Military Aftair~. saw in more than one newspaper was correct. In that speech Mr. Kei­ ley is reported as sa.ying in the way of defending himself against what On motion of Mr. TELLER, it was Ordered, That the papers in theca e of J. J: Rockafellow be withdrawn from was then in the air as having been alleged against him by the Italian the files of the Senate and 1·eferred to the Committee on laims. Government that he had sub tantially said of the Italian Government Ordered, That the papers in the case of HOt·ace A. ,V. Taber be withdrawn what he now said of the American Government, and that was that it from the files and referred to the Committe on Claims. Ordered, That the papers in the case of William .l't!. Keightley be withdrawn was a government that was founded upon a gross and bloody violation from the files and referred to the Committee on lnims. of public rjght. Ur. President, when I read that I could not help thinking that that was not the kind of a person that Qught to represent On motion ofUr. MAXEY, it was Ordered, That the papers on file relating to the claim of the legal representa­ the.America.n Government anywhere, even in a drawing-room, even at tives of Francis Guilbeau, deceased, b e withdrawn from the !il and referred to what my friend the other day felicitously described as a picnic. Cer­ the Committee on Claims. tainly if any body is going abroad to represent the sovereignty, the power, On motion of Ur. HERMAN, it was the purpo es, whatever they may be, social or political, of the Amer­ Ordered, That the papers in the case of James Crutchelt on the files of the n­ ican Government, he ought to be a man who bas no such opinion as that ate bo referred to the Committee on th~ Di trict of Columbia. about the Government whose commission be bears; and so I would have On motion of Mr. H.A.RRIS, it was said if I had been asked to decide this question myself as an individual, Ordered, That the paper3 in respect to the bill for the relief of Rear-Admiral that while the Austrian Government ba.d alleged a very poor reason, and Samuel P. Carter be withdrawn from the file of the Senate and referred to the one which bythe lights I have aboutit seemsentirelyinsufiicicnt, that Committee on Naval Affairs. Orde1·ed, That the papers in respect to the claim of HenryS. French be with­ is to say, that this man had married a Jewess and consequently could drawn from the files and referred to the Committee on Claims. not get in the society of the Austrian capital, I should have said that back of all thn.t decision perhaps was a very good one, because as I be­ STORES .AND SUPPLIES OF NAVY DEP.A.RT.ME}l'T. lieve he was not a proper person to represent this Government at Aus­ Mr. HALE submitted the following resolution; which was consid­ tria or elsewhere. ered by unanimous consent, and agreed to: So when the Com,m:ittee on Foreign Relations come to consider this Resolved, That the Secretary of the Navy be directed to inform the Senate question, as I hope they will, I trust they will give careful consideration whether the Navy Department complied with the provisions of ection 2 of the naval appropriation act of .A.ugust5,1882, requiring an account to be taken of the to the question whether we need any minister at the Austrian court or stock of stores and supplies pertaining to the several bureaus of the Department, not. I hope it will be found thatthiswholediplomatic service, which and an appraisement to be made of such stores and supplies; and, if so, to d-e­ costs us a great deal of money, is an antiquated and totally unneces­ scribe the manner in which such account and appraisement were made, and dis­ whether any part of the requirement of the law was not complied with, a.nd sary appendage, and Tecommend to the Senate that it shall be whether or not the account and appraisement con tituted an inventory of the pensed '\vith in toto. I am not aware that the wheels of Government stock on hand at the time they were mude. have moved with any less celerity and freedom from friction since Mr. COIDirrTEE ON INTERS-rATE COMl\IERCE. Kelley was rejected by the Austrian Government,.or that we have had during the very exciting times that have occurred in that neighborhood Mr. CULLOU. I asked a week ago for an extension of time in which during the ln.st few months any loud cry for anybody to represent the Select Committee on Interstate Commerce could make its report. American intereststhereduringtheServian, Bulgarian, and Roumelian I expected to be able to report to-day, but on account of one of the mem­ complications. Those countries have been contending by force of arms, bers of the committee being called home we have not yet quite con­ and yet there has never been a suggE>..s tion, even from the exporters of cluded the report, and I therefore ask that the cqmmittee be continued American petroleum, or from any other source I have ever heard of, until the 15th of January, within which time it shall have leave to that anything was lacking in the representation which our Government make its report. had in that neighborhood. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from illinois asks the I hope also the committee will go a little further and consider whether consent of the Senate to extend the time of making a ce:rtain report or not this controversy has not proceeded upon a false basis, whether, until the 15th of January next. Is there objection? The Chair hear.s in fact, there is any foundation for any controversy whateyer; and in none, and the order is made. · the next place and fundamentally whether or not- Mr. Kelley, or a man ALLOWANCE OF PENSION CLAD\IS. professing the sentiments which he is said to have uttered at Richmond Mr. HARRISON submitted the following resolution and asked for on the occasion I have Teferred to, is a proper person to represent this its present consideration: Government anywhere abroad, or at home either, for that matter, esti­ Whereas it is stated in substance in the last annunl report of the Commi - mable as he mat be, and as I have no doubt he is. sioner of Pensions that under the administration of his p1·edecessors, or orne of them, in that office, other te ts than those of the law were applied to appli­ Mr. VEST. Will the Senator from Kansas be kind enough to cite cations for pen ion, and that applicants were required to show, in addition to me the letter to 11Ir. McLane? service in the field, submission to and support of a. party before pension)! wera Mr. PLUMB. It is found on p::tge 11 of this correspondence, Exec­ granted: Therefore, · Resolved, That the Committee on E~cnditures of Public Money is hereby utive Document No.4, at the bottom of the page, telegram No. 6, Mr. directed to inquire into said statementS and to 1·eport the fact to the Senate. Bayard to Mr. McLane, dated Washington, May 27, 1885. Said committee is authorized to send for persons and papers and to employ a The PRESIDENT pro tempore. If there is no objection the reference stenographer. will be made. The joint resolution will be considered read the second The PRESIDENT pro tempo1·e. Is there objection to the present time, and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations. consideration of the resolution? HOLIDAY RECESS. Mr. COCKRELL. Let it lie over. Mr. EDMUNDS. Under the rule I ask the Chair to lay before the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Objection is made, and the resolu­ Senate the resolution of the House of Representatives on the subject of tion lies over. adjourning for the holidays. I think it will be a convenience to the P .A. Y OF EMPLOYEs. gentlemen of the other House to know what the action of the Senate is. Ur. ALLISON. I ask the Chair to lay before the Senate the House The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Chair lays before the Senate a joint resolution relative to the pay of the employes of the two Houses for concurrent resolution from the House of Representatives, which will be the present month. read. The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before the Senate the joint reso­ The Chief Clerk read as follows: lution (H. Res. 2) to pay the officers aud employes of the Senate and Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That when the House of Representatives their respective salaries for the month of two Houses adjourn on 11Ionday, December 21, 1885, they stand adjourned until December, 1885, on the 21st day of said month; which was read twice Tuesday, J a nuary 5, 1886. by its title. The PRESIDENT pro tempo-re. The question is upon concurring in .Mr. ALLISON. I ask tor the present consideration of the joint reso­ the resolution of the House of Representatives. lution. The resolution was concurred in. The PRESIDENT pro tt?npore. The Senator from Iowa ask unani­ P .A.PERS WITHDRAWN .A.ND REFERRED. mous consent for the present consideration of the joint resolution. Is there objection? _ 01i motion of Mr. EVARTS, it was There being no objection, the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, Ordered, That the papers on the files of the Senate with Senate bill 459, Forty. eighth Congre s, be taken from the files of the Senate and referred to the Com­ proceeded to consider the joint resolution. mittee on Finance. The joint resolution wn.s reported to the Senate. without amend­ On motion of Mr. HALE, it was ment, ordered to a third reading, read the third time, and passed. Ordered, Thll;t the papers in the case of L. Madison Day be withdrawn from 1\IESSAGE FROM TIIE HOU E. the files of the Senate and 1·eferred to the Committee on Claims, there having been no adverse report thereon. · · A message from the House of Uepresentatives, by 1t!r. CLAnK, its 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 351•

·clerk, announced that the Rouse had passed a joint resolution (H. message from the President of the United States; which was read, and, Res. 5) authorizing payment of C. H. Mann, messenger to the report;.. with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee o~ Indian ers' gallery; in which it requested the concurrence of the Senate. Affairs: ENROLLED BILLS SIGXED. To the Senate ancl Hou.se of Rep1·ese11tatit·es: I transmit herewith a communication of the 17th instant from the Secretary of The message also announced that the Speaker of the Honse had the Interior, submitting, with accompanying papers, a draught of a. bill granting signed the following enrolled bills and joint resolutions; and they were a right of way to the Jamestown and Korthern Raih·oadCompany through the Devil's Lake Indian reservation, in the Territory of Dakota. thereupon signed by the President p1·o tempo·re: · The matter is presented for the consideration and action of Congress. A bill (S. 580) granting a pension to Julia D. Grant; . . A bill (S. 118) for the relief of Alexander R. Lawton, of the State EXECUTIVE MANSION, Decembc1· 21, 1885. of Georgia; . The PRESIDENT JJro tem.pm·e laid before the Senate the following Joint resolution (H. lles.l) authorizing the Secretary of the Interior message from the President of the United States; which was read, and, to use a portion of the contingent fund to fit up rooms for the Com­ with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Indian missionerof Patents: and the Board of Affairs, and ordered to be printed: Joint resolution (S. R. 1) :filling existing vacancies in To the Senate ana House of Representatives: Regent.s of the Smithsonian Institution. I transmit herewith a communication of the 17th instant from the Secretary of the Interior, submitting, with accompanying papers, a report of the Commis­ CUSTOMS FRAUDS AT :NEW YORK. sioner of Indian Affairs concerning the failure of the Utah and Northern Railroad . Mr. HOAU. submitted the following resolution; which was considered Company to compensate the Indians upon the Fort Hall reservation, in Idaho, for lands taken and used in the construction of their line of road crossing the by unanimous consent, :md agreed to: · reservation from north to south. Resolved, That the Committee on Fina.nce are hereby authorized and directed The subject is recommended to the early attentioGRo'W~o~E~OO. by themselves, or by a subcommittee, to investigate the frauds and abuses al­ leged to exist in the collection of the customs revenue of the Goyerrunent at the EXECGTIVE 1\IANSION, Decembe1· 21,1885. port of New York, especi¥ty the subject of undervaluations of imported mer­ chandise and the reappraisement of the same at said port; and that said com­ The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before-the Senate the following mittee, or subcommittee, haye power to pursue such investigation and take message from the President of the United States; which was read, and, testimony at. such times a.nd places ns they may deem proper, to send for per­ sons and papers. to administer oaths, and compel the attendance of witnesses; with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Indian and shall report the resu tt of their investigation to the Senate, with recommenda­ .A.ffirirs, and ordered to be printed: tions as to what changes, if any, should be made in the customs laws in order to prevent frauds in the importation of merchandise and in the collection of the To the Senate and House of Representatives: revenue from customs. I transmit herewith a communication of the 17th instant from the Secretary of C. H. MANN. the Interior, submitting,'with accompanyingpapers, a draught ofabilltoaccept and ratify an agreement made by the Sisseton and Wahpeton Indians, and to The joint resolution (H. Res. 5) n.nthorizing payment of C. H. Uann, grant arightofwayforthe Chicago,Milwaukeeand Saint Paul Railway through the Lake Traverse reservation, in Dakota. · messenger to the reporters' gallery, was read twice by its title. The subject is presented for the·consideration and action of Congress. Mr. ALLISON. That relates, I understand, to a correction of an ap­ GROVER CLEVELAND. propriation made last ye..'li' for an employe of the Honse of Representa­ EXECUTIVE 1\IANsioN, Decembe-1· 21,1885. ti ves; It seems to be their own matter, and I suppose the Senate should The PRESIDENT pro temp01;e laid before the Senate the following consent to it; therefore I ask that the joint resolution be put upon its message from the President of the United States; which was read, and, passage. with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Indian Mr. EDMUNDS. Let it be read for information. Affairs, and ordered to be printed: The PRESIDENT pro tempore. It will be read at l~ngth. To the Senat~.and Home of Representatives: The Chief Clerk read as follows: I transmit herewith a. communication of the 15th instant from the Secretary of .Resolved by Ute Senate and Hou.se of .Re]wesentatives of the United States of .America the Interior, subn:Utting, with accompanyingpapers,a.draughtofa.bill to accept in Congress assenwled, That the Clerk of the House of Representatives be, and he and ratify an agreement made with the confederated tribes and bands ofindians hereby is, authorized and directed to pay to C. H. Mann the salary provided for occupying the Yakima reservation, in Washington Territory, for the right of in the "act making appropriations for le.,oi.slative, executive, and judicial ex­ way of the Northern Pacific Railroad across said reservation, &c. penses for the fiscal year ending June 30,1885," for the messenger in there­ The matter is presented for the consideration and action of Congress. porters' gallery, from July 1, to December 7,1885, inclusive. GROVER CLEVELAND. ExEcUTIVE 1\IANsioN, D!cenwer 21, 1885. Mr. 'EDUUNDS. Is there any explanation? Mr. ALLISON. I hn.ve not examined it, but a member of the House TRESPASSES ON IKDIAN LA~TJ>S. spoke to me about it. I ask that it be referred to the Committee on The PRESIDENT pro tmnpore laid before the Senate the following Appropriations. message from the President of the United Sta~; which was read, and, Mr. EDMUNDS. I am under the impression from reading the de­ with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Indian bates in a place elsewhere that there is a question whether this gentle­ Affairs, and ordered to be 'printed: man is to have double pay or something of that kind, he having been To the Senate and House of Representatives: . appointed in another department. While I entirely agree that in ordi­ I transmit herewith a. communication of 15th instant fl'Om the Secretary of the nary cases each House should regulate such little matters for itself, I Interior, submitting, with accompanying papers upon the subject, a draught of a bill to amend section 2148 of the Revised Statutes of the United States, relating think this had better be referred. to trespasses upon Indian lands. . The PRESIDENT pro tempore. It is proposed to refer the resolution The subject is one of great importance, and is commended to the early and to the Committee on Appropriations. That order will be m,ade if there favorable action of Congress. GROVER CLEVEL.Al'I'D. be no objection . . EXECUTITE MANSION,_Decem.be1· 21, 188.5. NEW ORLEANS COTION EXPO!;ITION. TIMBER DEPREDATIONS. The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before the Senate the following message from the President of the United States; which was read: The PRESIDENT pro tmnpore laid before the Senate the following message from the President of the United States; which was read, and, To lhe.Senate and House of Representatives: I transmit herewith a report, together with accompanying documents, made with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Public to me by the board of management of the World's Industrial and CottonCen· Lands, and ordered to be printed: tennial Exposition held at New Orleans from December 16,1884, to May 31,1885. To th~ Senate and HIYUSe of Representatives: GROVER CLEVELAND. I transmit herewith a ·communication of15th instant from the Secretary of the Ex:ECUTITE MANSION, Interior, submitting, with accompanying papers on the subject, a. draught of a Washinglcm, December 21, 1885. bill to amend section 5388 of the Revised Statutes of the United States, relating to timber depredations upon lands reserved or purchased for military, Indian, or !1r. COCKRELL. Let the question of printing the accompanying other purposes, &c. documents be referred to the Committee on Printing for examination. . This is an important subject, and is commended to the early attention of Con­ The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The message and aecompanying doc· gress. GROVER CLEVELAJ\"'D. uments will be referred to the Committee on Printing. EXECUTIVE MANSION, December 21, l&.'l5. RAILROADS THROUGH INDIAN RESERVATIONS. CALIFORNIA MISSIOY Th"DIANS. The PRESIDENT JJro tempore laid before the Senate the following message from the President of the United States; which was-read, and, The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before the Senate the following with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Indian message from the President of the United States; which was read, and, A1fairs, and ordered to be printed: with the acompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Indian .Af­ fairs, and ordered to be printed: To the Senate and Hou.se of Representat-ives: l transmit herewith a communication of 17th inst."\nt from the Secretary of the To the Senate and Ho11,se of Repl'esentatives: Int,erior,submitting, with accompanying papers, a draught of a bill to accept and I transmit herewith a communication of 15th instant from the Secretary of the ratify an agreement made by the Pah-Ute Indians, and granting a right of way Interior, submitting, with accompanying papers upon the subject, a draught of a. to the Carson and ColoradoRailrc.ad Company through the Walker River reser­ bill for the relief of the Mission Indians in California. vation, in Nevada. · The subject is presented for the action of Congress. The matter is presented for the consideration and action of Congress. GROVER CLEVELAND. GROVER CLEVELAND. ExECUTI.VE MANSION, December 21,1885. EXECUTIVE MANSION, December 21, 1885. DECEASED K.ICKAPOO nmiANS. The PRESIDENT pt·o tempore laid before the Senate the following The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before the Senate the following 352 ·CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECEMBER 21, message from th.e President of the United Sta.te.s; which was read, and, and notes of the United States; second, to the purchase or payment of 1 per cent. of t.he entire debt of the United States, to be made within each fiscal year, with the accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Indian which is to be set apart as a sinking fund, and the interest of. which shall in like Affairs, :md ordered to be printed: manner be applied to the purchase or payment of the public debt, as the Secre­ tary of the Treasury shall, from time to time, direct; third, the residue to be To the Sena!e and House of Representatives: paid into the Treasury:" I transmit herewith a communication of 15th instant from the Secretary of the Resolved, That the Committee on Finance be instructed to inquire whether Interior, submitting, with accompanying papers upon the subject, a draught of the laws above stated now are, or have heretofore, been obeyed; and if they a bill" to provide for the settlement of the estates of deceased Kickapoo Indians have not, to report by bill, or otherwise, such measures as will secure their en- in the State of Kansas, and for other purposes." The matter is presented for the favorable considerA.tion of Congress. forcement. · GROVER CLEVELAND. Mr. BECK Mr. President, no man will deny that the laws passed by ExECUTIVE MANsio:s, December 21• 1885• Congress are as imperative on the highest executiTe official as on the TERRITORY OF DAKOTA. humblest citizen, whether they approve them or not. I venture to as· Mr. BECK. I call up the resolution submitted by me on the 18th sert that no man will contend that the laws recited in the preamble to instant- and I ask that it be read. the foregoing resolution either are now or have for many years past been The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The resolution sub~itted by the obeyed. All sorts of excuses may be and have been offered for their Senator from Kentucky on the 18th instant is before the Senate and Violation, still the fact remains that the laws of the land have been dis­ will be read. regarded by our executive officers, and the legislative power has been Mr. HARRISON. Do I understand that the Senator gave previous subordinated to the will Of men whose duty it is to submit to them and notice of a desire to addre...~ the Senate at this time on this resolution? to execute them as they exist. They have no right to decide whether Mr. BECK. I desire to address the Senate in regard to it now, as I a law is good or bad, politic or impolitic; so long as itislawtheymust gave notice on Friday that I should. be compelled to render implicit obedience to it. They have officially Mr. HARRISON. I had expected this morning that the resolution informed Congress for years past that they neither require coin to be in relation to the action of the people of Dakota would come before paid for duties on imported goods, nor do they set apart the coin or its the Senate again for discussion, and had prepared to submit more re- equivalent so received as a special fund to pay the interest on our pub­ marks upon that subject in response to the Senator from Missouri [Mr. lie debt, or to procure bonds for the sinking fund. On the contrary, they VEST], bnt as the hour of 2 o'clock has been nearly reached now, the admit that as the existing laws do not coincide with their views of what only time I could claim a right to use for the discussion of th~ subject, is politic they disregard them. . I deny their right to do so, because I and as I understand the Senator from Kentucky has given previous believe many of the evils the country is now afflicted with grow out of notice of his intention to go on and I C.'ID not with propriety interpose the disregard of the plainest provisions of law by our Treasury officials. an objection after 2 o'clock, I desire to suggest to the Senator from I have no faith in the-remedies which are now :md have for past years 1\fissouri [Mr. VEST] that the resolution offered by him and also the been proposed for the evils they allege to exist. That the country is resolution offered by the Senator from South Carolina [Mr. BuTLER] not as prosperous as it ought to be I admit, but I insist that the remedy both be referred to the Committee on Territories. The Senator from is not to be found in striking down our silver coinage or the currency South Carolina has expressed to me his acquiescence in that disposition based U}Jon it, but rather in requiring our public creditors to take it as of his resolution. "the law and the contracts they required us to make demand. Mr. VEST. I harve rio objection. I do not propose to find fault with much that is recommended by our Mr. HARRISON. Then after the recess that committee will no executive officers; indeed, upon ·an questions, exc.ept that of coinage doubt be ready to bring the subject before the Senate in the form of and the payment of our public debt, I heartily indorse what they ad­ some bill that will offer for discussion the whole subject-matter, and vise. No Secretary Qfthe Treasury has ever, in my opinion, expressed not simply the single phase of it which has been presented-in this-pre- more enlightened views in regard to our present system of tariff taxa­ liminary discussion. While I preferred to proceed now that there- tion than the present Secretary, and I assume that he has but elabor­ marks of the Senator from Missouri are fresh in my mind, I yield to the a ted the views of the President. No more intelligent and statesmanlike stress of circumstances this morning and propose that disposition of message, taking it as a whole, has ever emanated from the Executive these resolutions. Mansion since I have taken part in public affairs; but I disagree with Mr. DOLPH. I do not desire to discuss these resolutions, but I pro- the President and his officials as to the management of our currency and pose at some favorable time to add my mite to the historical part of our coinage, and I propose, respectfully but plainly, to state the reasons this debate by a reference to thecircumstance.!underwhichOregon was why, and to point out· the remedy I recommend as a substitute for admitted to the Union; but, inasmuch as Congress is about to adjourn changes proposed in the message and official reports. · now until the 5th of Janu:lry, I shall not ask to submit what I desire ·I believe that it can be demonstrated that gold and silver coin, and to submit at this time, but will take occasion fu do so when the resolu- the paper representatives of both, stand on an absolute equality before tions arc reported back or when some bill is reported to the Senate. the law, and that three-fourths of our present troubles grow out of the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Indiana asks refusal of our officials to pay the money received at our custom-houses unanimous consent that the resolutions respecting the Territory of to onr public creditors in the manner and for the purposes prescribed DaJwta be referred to the Committee on Territories. by the laws of the United States. Therefore I have recited these laws, l'rlr. HARRISON. The two resolutions-that of the Senator from which are plain and simple, in the-preamble; and in the resolution have MiR.<;onri [l\1r. VEST] and that of the SenatoF from South Carolina [Mr. asked the Committee on Finance to tell the Senate whether they have BUTLER]. · beeu executed or not;. and if not, to report measures which will secure 1 1t1 · .1:' t{E...;; IDENT pro tempore. Is there objection? The Chair hears their enforcement. · I admit that even when that is done other combin- none, and that order is made. ations must be broken up before we can become a prosperous com mer- J U DICIAL SALARIER. cial people, but as all measures for tariff and tax reform· must be origi- . . nattd at the other end of the Capitol, I am content to await the action 1\ir. ~OAR.. Wlll the Sen~t.or fro.m ~entucky _Permlt me to ~ake a taken there bein(J' confident that the Executive is in full sympathy sugges~on which I suppose will be for h1s convemence and that of the with all pr~p e r efforts in that regard. Senate · I understand the Senator from Kentucky proposes to addre~ · There can be no dispute as to the fact that there must be something the Senate to-day. wrong in the management of public affairs ·when the ports of great na- Mr. BECK. I do. . . tions like Germany, France, Austria, and other countries-ru-e arbitrarily ~r. HOA~. ~ have c:_ha~ge of the pendm~ measure, the unfi.~:nsh~d closed against our cattle, hogs, and other food products, without, as bnsmess, wh1ch 1s tJ;le d1stnct court salary bilL As I suppose It Will the President tells us in his message, '.'present proepect of reasonable h~rdly_be worth while to ta~~ that up after t~e Senator has proceeded I change. " It is not a healthy condition of things when wheat, hogs, With h1s rem~rk s, I should liKe~ have m;mmmous consent J?-Ow . ~at ancl other farm products, debarred from foreign markets in ret.aliation. that sal.ary bill ~a;v be the unfimshed hu~rness on the mo_rnmg a-fter because of our protective tariff, sell at home for prices which will barely the. holidays, as 1~ lS to-day,. a~d then let It go over so that 1t shall not pay the cost of production . . As .to them certainly protection does not be m the Senators way at 2 o clock. . protect. The great AmeriCan. agricultural industries, which' give em- The P~ESIDENT p1·o tempore . . The Se_nator from Massachus~tts ployment to more than half of the workers for wages~ whose welfare is asks una!lm1ous consent th_at the b1ll to w~ch he refers JS . .6 ), :fixmg held up (properly so) as the highest aim oflegislation, and whose prod­ the salanes of the several Jndges of the Umted Sta~ dlStnct courts nets constitute at least 80 per cent. of our exports, receive no real con­ at ~5,000 pe-: annum, and for .other purposes, be considered as the un- sideration here, and are not even ranked among the industries of the finished busmess at the.m~tmg of the Sena.te on the .5th of January country over which Congress is asked or expeeted to throw its protect­ next. If there be no obJectwn, that order will be considered as agreed . rm t o. T1le Ch air· h ears no 0 b"]ec t•IOn. lllgThese a · great interests are the unorganized, unequipped, and .therefore COIN DUTIES ON IMPORTED Goons. neglected militia; whose strength can not. be brought to.bear with bali The Senate proceeded to the consideration of the following resolution, the efficiency of a single regiment of thoroughly armed veterans, fight- submitted by Mr. BECK on the 18th instant: · ing for special interest. This is illustrated here and n:_ow by. the zeal Whereas the laws of the'United States require that all duties on imported goods everywhere displayed by the combinations 'of bankers and bondholders shall be paid in coin; and • a.nd their able and well-paid press to maintain their bonds at a premium \Vhereasitisprovided by section 3G94 ofthe Revised Statutes that "The coin of24 percent., or rather to increase that premium to 30 or40 per cent. .p..'tid for duties on imported goods shall be set apart as a special fund, and shall ..rl ~ be applied as follows: First, to the payment, in coin, of the interest on the bonds at the expense of the already impoverished masses of tax-paJ ers. 1 " 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECOB.D-SENATE. 353 seems as though it was thought to be the duty of Congress to see to it and join the Democracy, even with ''Frank Blair '' on the ticket, rather that the rich should be made richer by makirig the poor poorer. Wby than countenance such an outrage on public decency. should we be in hot paste to strike down our silver currency for fear of The su-bsequent legislation by Congress only proves the truth of a fall in our outstanding bonds below .24 per cent. premium? Have the Macaulay's observation.that if large pecuniary ~nterests were concerned representatives of the people any interest in maintaining, far less in in­ in denying the truth of the attraction of gravitation that most obvious creasing, the premium on bonds bearing 4 per cent. interest beyond 24 of physical facts would be strongly and ably disputed. per cent., when we must soon become the purchasers of them at any ~ It seems to me that any set of men who would cleny'the fact that the premium, or else contract our currency at ruinous mtes by locking up legal-tender note, indorsed as it was and is, which bad purchased the in the Treasury all our surplus revenue, as reduction of taxation seems bonds at its face value should be received again by the bondholder in to be impossible, by the passage of laws which will still farther depre­ payment of the principal of the obligation he held, would not hesitate ciate the prices of farm pro~ucts, now so low that producers can not raise tQ deny the truth of the attraction of gravitation. . them and pay wages to their laborers on which they can live? Yet these men not only denied it, but in 1869 procured the passage When fat hogs sell at 3~- cents a pound, and other things in pronPr­ of im act of Congress, against the vote and protest (I am happy to say) tion, when all the world is combining to exclude ~ur agricultural prod­ of every Democrat in both Houses, declaring that the principal of the ucts from ·their markets in retaliation against our protective system, bonds should be paid in coin-in golda.nd silver coin, asbotharenamed. which prohibits our farmers from buying what they must have with Legal-tenders were only worth 50 cents on the dollar in coin when the the proceeds of what they mus~ sell, unless they pay 46 per cent. on bonds were bought; they were worth from 66 to 70 cents when this act the average more than they are offered them for, in order to enrich a few was passed. The act was simply legalized robbery. The bondholders organized combinations of manufacturers, who seek no markets abroad and their a.ttorneys in and out of Congress knew it, and knew that no and refuse to sell their pro~ucts in competition with so-called paupers court would sustain such a law. The indorsement could neither be with whom the farmers must compete, our condition is ~ot satisfac- erasednorsworno.fftheback ofthe legal-tender note, andnobodycould tory. - . . plead ignorance either of the law or the fact that it was· to be received But I agree that the Senate can not inaugurate measures to relie-ve at par in payment of the principal of.all our bonds. the country from oppressions of that character; therefore I propose to Therefore they caused the act of Jnly 14, 1870, to be passed, extend­ seek relief in the treatment of our circulation, not by ·destroying it, ing the time of payment, reducing the i,nterest, and exempting the new · but by extending its usefulness. The present· crusade against silver bonds in express terms from all taxation, State, Federal, or municipal; is only another evidence of the audacity of the organizatiorls of wealth; and to . prevent all mistake or misapprehension as to tbe· character, they have always secured a.U they d~manded, however unjust their de­ quality, and weight of the money in which payment of the·new bonds mands; they have succeeded in _alarming the President and the Secre­ should be made, they caused to be printed on each bond as part of its tary of the Treasury as they have done several ·precedillg administra­ obligation, ''that it shall be paid in coin of the standard value prescribed tions; they threaten to use the power which our laws give them over by law on the 14th of July, 1870. The present gold and silver coin our currency, of withdrawing from circnlation among the people and, are both of the standard value prescribed by the law of July 14, 1870, if need be, from the country the gold they control, and thus derange, and were then as now both full legal-tenders for all our obligations. All even if ruin follows, the business of the people. Every concession in­ the bonds that mature in 1892 a.tld 1907, amountingto ~bou.t$1, 000,000, .. creases their audacity and adds to their power. A stand must be made 000, stand to-day unchanged, and payable as required by the act of 1870. somewhere by the represent.-'1ti-ves of the tax-payers, or an absolute sur­ The remnant of those payable now have been changed, the interest bas render of all the monetary interests of the country into their bands been lowered, and the tim.e extended, but the same provisions govern must follow. A mere reference to the past legislation of Congress on them, and the same conditions are written out as part of the contract this subject proves w.hat I say. · When it was ·first asserted, in 1868, in all of them. Let me read. Inscription on face ·of bonds of the 5 per by the bondholders, as the time approached when the United States cent. funded loan of 1881: · could lawfully pay off the 5-20 6 per cent. bonds, and when the out­ This bond is issued in accordance with the provisions of an act of Congress standing principalQfthe public debt exceeded $2,600,000,000, that the entitled "An act to authorize the refunding of the national debt, approved July 14, 1870, amended by an act approved January 20, 1871," and is redeemable at honor of the country demanded that the p1incipal as well as the inter­ the pleasure of the United States after the first day of May, A. D.1881, in coin of est on the bonds should be paid in gold or· silver coin, a cry of indig­ the standard value of the United States on said July 14, 1870, with interest in nation was raised all over the land against such a demand by all honest such coin from the day of the date hereof, at the rate of 5 per cent·. per annum, payable quarterly on the 1st day of February, May, August, and November, in disinterested men. , each year. '.rhe principal and interest are exempt from the payment of 1\11 taxes They were told, and told truthfully, that all the bonds they held had nnd duties ofthe United States, as well as from taxation in any form by or under been purchased with legal-tender notes at par; that for each $100 in State, municipal, or local authority. greenbacks they n.aid to the Government they bad received a bond Extract from face of United States 4 per cent. bond: for $100, bearing 6 per cent. interest, payable in gold or silver coin; "This bond is il!sned in accordance with tQ.eprovisions of an act of Congress that the greenback when they exchanged it for the bond was only worth entitled "An act to authorize the refunding of the National Debt," approved July 14,1870, amended by an act approved January 20,1871, and is redeemable 50 cents on the dollar in coin, and that it was an outrage in the face of at the pleasure of the United States after the 1st day of July, A. D. 1907, in coin the eontract they had made, with theprivilegesgiven to m,anyoftbem of the standard value of the United States on said July 14,1870, with interest in in addition as national bankers to have currency issued for them to loan such coin from the day of the date hereof at the rate of 4per cent. per annum, payable quarterly on the 1st day· of October, .January, April, and .July in each out on the security of tbeirlbonds equal to 90 per cent. of the bonds de­ year. The principal and interest are exempt from the payment of all taxes or posited, to demand t.hat the principal of their bonds sbonld be paid in duties of lhe United States, as well as from taxation in any form by or under coin. They knew-everybody knew-that the claim was false. The State, municipal, or local authority. legal-tender notes had and continue to have an indorsement on their In t.he face of these facts it is simply absu:fd for anybody to ~ert back that 11 This note shall be receivable at its face value for all debts, that they are payable in gold alone, ot thattbetax-payers of the coun­ public and private, except interest 6n the public debt and customs try are under any obligation, express or implied,· either to demonetize dues," so that tbe11e could be neither doubt nor dispute either as to the or stop the coinage of the silver dollar, which is ofthestandaJ;d valuere· law or the fact. Nobody denounced the im·pudent demand of the bond­ quired by the act of July 14; 1870, or to increase its weight thirty, forty, holders more emphatically than the present presiding officer of the or any other number of grains, because England, to whom we have Senate [M.r. SHER1\1AN]. He said in his letter to a friend in 1868: ignominiously surrendered the carrying trade of this country and the DEA R Srn: I was pleased to receive your letter. My personal interests are the world, wi tb her 200,000,000 ofserf s in India and elsewhere, and Germany, same as yours; but~ like you, I do n ot intend to be influenced by them. My con­ struction of the law 1s the result of careful examination, and I feel quite sure an after extorting $1,000,000,000 of gold from France, have combllied in impa rtial court would affirm it, if the case could be tried before a court. I send the interest of their money-changers to depreciate silver, or put up the you my views as fully stated in a. speech. Your idea is, that we propose tore­ market price of gold 20 per cent. . · pudiate or violate a. p.romise when we offer to redeem the "principal" in legal­ tenders. If the gold mines of California and Australi:'ll had continued to pro· I think the bondholder violates his promise when he refuses to take the same duce abundant)y, and the Comstock lode and the Leadville mines had kind of money he pa id for the .bonds. If the case is to be tested by law I am not produced silver, so that the market value of the two metals as right ; if it 'is to be tested by Jay Cooke's advertisements, I am wrong. i hate repudiation, or anything like it·, but we ought not to be deterred from doing bullion in London had l:;leen reverBf'd, the argument could be made what is rig ht by fear of undeserved epithets. · . quite as plausibly that the silver dollar was the constitutional unit of If under. the law as it stands the holders of the five-twenties can only be paid value in 1870, which the bondholders have a right to demand. in gold, then we are repudiators if we propose tQ pay otherwise. If the bond­ bolder ca n legally demand only the kind of money he P\lid, then he is a repudi­ There is·not an outstanding obligation of the United States, nox- of any ator and extortioner to demand money more valuable t-han he gave. State, municipality, corporation, or individual which can not be legally T ruly y ot."rs, · and honorably discharged by the payment of the presentst'Uldard silver ·JOHN SHERMAN. dollar. What right bas Congress to deprive the debtor of that rif$bt by E very word be said was t rue, and :r:emains true to this dary. The adding more silver to the coin than he agreed to pay, or by stoppmg its pledge is on the back of every greenback now that it shall be receiv­ coinage so tbat.be can not obtain it? It is as palpable a violatipn of aeon­ able, at its face value, for every debt, public and private, except interest tract to increase the obligation of the debtor asitistoimpair or reduce the on the publ ic debt and customs dues. The men who demanded more standard Yalue of the coin which the creditor stipulated in his contract were repudiators of the public 1aith and credit, as he truthfu.lly and should be paid to him. ·When Congress has once coined money and reg­ indignantly said.' Mr. Stevens, then the leader of his party, denounced ulated the value thereof, and contracts are based upon it, the right to their claim still more fiercely, and threatened to abandon his party pay according to· its terms can not rjghtfnlly or justly be taken from the XVII-23 354 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DECEI\IBER 21,

people, and Senators and Representatives wbo deprive them 'Of that gold is said to be used so freely to buy Senators and Represenmtives to right will have unpleasant explanations to make to the men whose bur­ vote for revenue tariffs against protection to monopolies called Ameri­ dens are increased• by their vote. It ·is simply an attempt to repeat can industry, is held up now by the gold monome1:.flllists as an example the legislation of 1869, and the same pretenses >trC made now that were worthy of all, imitation; her financial policy is lauded as the perfec­ made then. An honest dollar for the laboring man was then, as now, tion of human wisdom. Fortunately the official reports overthrow all -held up as the patriotic object of those who repudiated the greenback, the reckless assertions of the gold worshipers. The Register-of the as higher wages to labor is claimed to be the prime object of all the Trea ury (see report for this year, page 4), bows that out of $1,071,- patriotic combinations of monopolists and machine-owners, 1 ho tax us 460,262 registered bonds of the United States outstanding only $11,- all 46 per cent. under the present protective tariff and yet hire the 927,900, or a little over one-tenth of 1 per cent. is held abroad, and of cheapest pauper labor they can import. It is the wolf guarding the tho e which can be paid Lefore 1892, foreigners hold only $34,150, lamb, the spider the fly, and the hawk the sparrow. which is less than the interest on the money now-lying idle in the I propo e to test this question in the light of.the fads fnrnished us by Treasury for one day.at_3 per cent. per annum. our 'l'reasury officials. ·we are, of course, as good judges of the value of l'hese facts coupled with the fact that our exports of goods exceeded the facts they fnrnish and as competent to draw correct conclusions from on.rimports$130,000,000th.is year, and our imports of gold exceeded our them as they are. The last report from the Treasury Bureau of Sta­ gold exports $18,213,80!, an amount greatly exceeding all our bonds tistics, relative to our foreign commerce for the fiscal year 1885, proves held abroad, settle the question. The falsity of the clamor 'about for­ that there is no such condition either in our trade or exports of metals, eign complications or gold premiums is made too apparent for any sen­ whether of coin or bullion, as to render it necessary to strike down our sible man to be deceived by it. silver coinage. It shows (page 1) that our total exports fo~ 1885 were ~he press is filled with articles day by day which seek to make peo­ $726,682,946, and for 1884, $724,.964,852, while our total imports for ple believethatallother nations have ceased tocoinsilver, and that we 1885 were $577,527,329, and for 1884, $667,697,693. alone are stubbornly persisting in forcing it upon this country afterit It will thus he seen that while the value of our exports in 1885 ex­ has been abandoned everywhere else. ceeded those of 1884 our imports were more than 90,000,000 less. I propose to disprove these allegations by officially stated.facts. The The same report shows that for 1885 our exports of gold were·.$8, 4 77,892, Director of the Mint in his last report shows (pages 131, 132) that for · and for 1884, $41,081,957, or over $32,000,000 less for the last fiscal the_year 1884 the world's production of gold waa $95,292,569; of silver year than for the year before. Our exports of silver for 1885 were $33,- $115,147,878; and that $99,459,240 of gold was coined~ while the coin­ 750,633, and for 1884, · 26,051,426, or nearly $8,000,000 more last year age of silver last year amounted to $90,039,443, of which the United than the year before, w bile our imports of gold last year exceeded those States coined 23,991,756 of gold, and 28,534,866 of silver. Other na­ of the ye.:'lT before nearly $4,000,000. These facts falsify the clamor tions, therefore, coined in 1884 $61,50~577 of silver, showing that we that gold is fleeing from onr country, and proves that all the (pretended) are far from being alone in the coinage of that metal. England coined evilB of a single depreciated silver standard are myths. $3,204,824 of silver last year and $6,201,517 the year before, to add to Nor is it true that our silver eoin has depreciated since July, 1870, her stock which has been accumulating for generations; while she bas when tested by any other standard tl}.an the market value of bullion in coined silver for India in the last three years to the value of 68,234,000. London.· The workers for wages in England to-day get their pay in silver coin, The report above referred to (pages 5 and 6) gives the New York or and the questio:a is never mooted by them as to the comparative bullion export prices in currency of the commodities which constituted over 80 -value of the silver and gold coin of that counb:y. Even Germany, not­ per cent. of our exports, nearly all agricultural products in 1870 and withstanding she pretended to have demonetized silver twelve years 18 5; from which it will be seen that the silver dollar, which it has ago, coined in 1882 6,407,157 of it to add to her vast stock on himd; become fa hionable to malign and denounce in aristocratic circles, will her laborers :lie paid in it now. No complaint is made anywhere, here now purchase from 25 to 30 per cent. more of all that the toiling millions or in Europe, about sil>er coin except by the holders of our bonds, who of this country labor to produce, and of all that men need money to seek to increase largely the purchasing power of gold, or, which is the obtain, than it would in J~1y, 1870. To avoid all dispute as to these same thing, reduce the value of all our property from25 to50percent. facts I quote the la,ng_uage ofthe report, as follows: below itS present value when tested by the single standard of gold, Tl1e 1ollowing table shows the annual average export price in cur­ which they claim shall be paid by us to them and to them alone. They rency of the articles of domestic product named and for the years indi- do not seek to establish the single gold standard, they say; they are.bi­ cated: . · metallists. They agree that silver is a legal tender for all debts and ob­ ligations of the Government, except those held by them. It is good YearendingJune30- enough to pay the laborer, thesoldier,.thesailor, in snort, all who work for the Un:i,ted States, but they insist that it is dishonest in us to pay .Articles. it to them, although their bonds and obligations all show on their face 18i0. 1885. that it is a legal tender in payment of them all so long as it is coined of the standard value fixed by law, July 14, 1870, as it is now and

Indian corn ...... •• : ..•..•m ...... per bushei.•. so 92.5 $0 54.0 a1 n-ays has been. Wheat...... ,-.....•...•do ...... 1 .28.9 86.2 Our dollar is more valuable than that coined by most of the other 'Vheat flour ...... per barrel. .. . 6 11.2 4 89. 7 Cotton...... •...... per pound .. . 23.5 10.6 leading nations, France included, theirs bearing the relation of 15~ to Leather ...... •...... •...... do ...... 28.5 19. 8 1 with gold, while ours is 16 to l. I need not repeat in detail what Mineral oils, refined ...... •...... •...... per gallon .. . 30.5 08.7 the official reports show in regard to the gold, silver, and paper currency 15.7 09. 7 of the several countries. It is sufficient to prove by them that while ~~~~:-~~~:·:.::::::::::::::::::::::: : :::::::::::::::::::·::.:.~~-~~d~~::: 16.6 07.9 13. 2 06.3 the difference in the market value of gold and silver in London oper­ ~·r:~d~::::::: : :::: ·.:::::::::::::::·.:·. ·:::.::::·::::: ::::::::::::::~~ : ::::: 07.3 07.5 ates to degrade their silver coin more than it does ours, France and Butter ...... do ...... 29.3 16.8 Cheese ...... do ...... 15.5 09.3 other countries .maintain t~eir silver and paper in all transactions, pub­ 39.6 21.5 lic and private, at par with gold under far greater difficulties than we ~~h·.:::~:::::::::::::::::::::·.:::::::::::::: : ::::::::::·.:::::~~~ ~~~d.::: 08.2 04.0 have to contend with, no matter from what standpoint the comparison 12.6 06.4 11.3 09. 9 is made. ~~t~~~~~::::::::::::::::~:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::~~:::::: The Comptroller of the Currency is his last report, page 26, says: .From information communicated to the State Department by the minister of In the face of these official facts a~d figures as to our trade, and ex­ the United· Stn.tes to France, it appears that notes of the Bank of France are ports and imports of gold a~d silver, and the comparative purchasing legal-tender, and are redeemable at sight, either in gold or silver 5-frn.nc coins, at the option of the bank (silver coins of smaller denominations being power of the silver dollar now and in 1870, I repeat: Why should it legal-tender only to the extent of 50 francs). be stricken down, or its purchasing power fnrther increased 20 per cent. On October 1,1885, as shown by the returns of the Bank of France, the notes by adding 40, 50, or any other number of gra.ins to its weight? In in circulation p.monnted to 2, 786,051,930 francs, the bank holding at that time cash amounting to 2.265,636,853 francs, of which 1,162,987,484 francs was gold and other words, why should every producer and debtor have to give 20 1,102,64!1,419 francs silver. per cent. more of the products of his labor to· obtain either a new silver dolfar or gold coin with which to pay his debts than he does now, It will be observed that the Bank of France alone holds more silver when he is already paying his obligations according to the terms of coin than the total silver coinage of the United States. Up to July1, his contract in a coin which will procure for its owner much more of 1885, we had only eoined ·203, 000,000 of silver dollars. The silver coin all he needs than it would in 1870 ? It is only another phase of the con­ in the Bank of France, at five francs -to the dollar, amounts to $220,- stant struggle of the rich to grind the face of the poor, ~d of the fa­ 529,884, or over $17,500,000 more than our total coinage. How many vored few to enrich themselves by class legislation. millions more are in the hands of her people I am not advised-more, While no one can deny that every obligation of t~e . United States perhaps, than are held by the Bank of France, yet they are all a full and every contract within our own borders can be discharged honorar legal tender and all as good ~gold. France is little more than two­ bly with the present silver dollar, .we are told that our foreign obliga­ thirds as large as the f:?tate of Texas; her internal trade and commerce tions and relations are such that gold will be at a premium very soon, is a mere bagatelle compared with that of this almost boundless con­ and we will be on a basis of degraded silver at once if we do not in­ tinent ; her population is not two-thirds as Jarge as ours and far less crease the weight or stop the coinage of silver; that all Europe is hor­ enterprising; her foreign commerce is much smaller than ours; gold can rified at ?ur stupidity or. dishonesty, or both. Even England, whose be transported from the Bank of France in Paris to the Bank of Eng- 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 355 land in London in a few hours; they are not as far apart as New York certificates than were paid in gold and gold certificates; all of it is by and Washington. Why is it not done? Whyis she not brought to the law a special fund which can not legally b~ paid or covered into the so- called degraded silver standard? Five more years of coinage of silver Treasury till the interest on the public debt is paid out of it, and the at the present rate will not bring ours up to hers either in volume or bonds for the sinking fund are purchased or redeemed. · proportion to gold. Simply because her officials and· her public credi- These, together, required about $108,000,000; yet not a dollar of sil­ tors sustain her silver and do not repudiate it nor seek to degrade it as ver has been so applied; it is paid into the Treasury and held there, ours have done for years past and still continue to do in violation of and a clamor is raised that it can not be again got· into circulation. If the plainest provisions of Jaw. · · the law was obeyed and the bondholders required to take the same pro- .AB I have suited in the preamble to my resolution, our customs dues portion of silver dollars that the Government receives through its ens­ are made payable in coin, and section 3694 Revised Statutes provi<,les tom-houses, the bondholders would have no difficulty iii. getting them t.hat- · all into circulation; and when it is made their interest to maintain and Th~ coin paid fd'r duties on imported goods shall be setapnrt as a. special fund, support the silver they own we would hear rio more about its being dis­ and ·hall be applied as follows: First, to the payment in coin of the interest on honest money. The Secretary says (page·14 of his report) that the hal- the bonds nnd notes of the United States; second, to the purchase or pay- · t"h Tr h b · ment of 1 per cent. of the entire debt of the United states. to be made within ance lll ,ue easury as een mcreased from the 4th of March, 1885, en.ch fiscal year, which is to be set apart as a sinking fund, &t'.; "' * * third, to the 1st of November, 1885, $58,053,702.27, yet there has been no the residue to be paid into the Treasury. reduction of the interest-bearing debt (and that is the only debt that is No Secretary of the Treasury can mistake his duty under that law; a burden on tax-payers) since November, 1884, certainly not since :no public creditor can complain when the interest on his bond is paid March, 1885. The monthly reports show $194,000,000 of 3 per cent. in the coin which is set apart as a special fund, first for- the payment bonds then outstanding and precisely the same amount in November. of the interest due to him. Yet millions, hundreds of millions; have How is the surplus -silver coin to. get out of the Treasury if the been p:1id for duties on im'ported goods since 1878 in silver coin and Secretaryrefusestopayit"outforinterestandrefusestocallin the bonds silver certificates, which is only a convenient form of handling silver, which are now payable? as the coin they .represent is ours when the certificates are paid, to us; There is no more effectual or pernicious method of contracting the yet not one dollru:, so far as I am advised, has ever been paid in silver currency than by collecting by taxation a large sum in excess of the as interest on tlie public debt or in the purchase of a single bond for needs of an economically administered Government and loc1.--ing it up the inking fund, though it has been recognized as a coin which con- in the Treasury. Every dollar needlessly taken from the tax-payer stituted the special fund created by law by its acceptance in payment· wrongfully deprives hi.ri::t of that much capital which he needs and b­ of duties on imported goods. The public creditors have unjustly de- bored to obtain, and when_it is locked up the·circulating medium which manded gold for the interest on their bonds without any semblance of all the people want is wrongfully withheld fi:om them. The thiet;who right, and every Secretary oftbeTreasuryhas disregarded th~ law and steals and squanders an unneeded surplus locked up in the Treasury acceded to their demands. Our officials have thus aided and abetted vaults would inflict less injury on the country and its business if the the organization of the most powerful body of capitalists in the United money he stole was put in·circulation, than a Secretary who holds and States against silver coinage; men who control the currency of the hides in vaults currency which the people want, and refuses to use it country and hold the obligations of all its business concerns; men who to pay the debts, especially interestrbearing debts, which the men who can inflate or contract the circulating medium on which all our com- own this money owe. It is easy to raise a clamor about a surplus, but mercial transactions depend; men who hqld $737,742,850 of bonds of it will be more difficult to explain to the people why such vast amounts the United States maturing in 1907, on which they now demand a pre- of the money they have been so heavily taxed to furnish is lying idle mium of24 per cent., and seek by striking down silver still further to .in the overloaded Treasury vn.ults, and they deprived of its use, while increase their premiums. interest is running against them on bonds which can be and ought to 'l'heyholdalso$250,000,000of our bonds -payable in 1892, which they be paid. ·The idle money when paid out for interest on bonds would seek to enh:mce the value of even beyond the 12 per cent. prennum ·at once be released and restored to circulation. they now command. These men control boards of trade, chambers of Speaking of circulation, we are constantly told that there is n.ow a con:~merce, and the best talent of the press; they can crush all who are great abundance of it outstanding; indeed, we are officially advised indebtiftheydaretodissentfromorobjecttothedemandstheyma.ke; that the legal-tender notes and the silver certificates should all be the reports of their conventions and speeches are laid before u:s with a withdrawn-I presume because of the superabundance of currency. parade and semblance of authority equal to the report of the Secretary Let us look for a few minutes at the effect of these recommendations if of the Treasury or the message of the President. . carried out, and see how far these certificates are now used as curren~y. I shall not be surprised if they dominate this Congress, but it will It was the avowed purpose of the advocates of both gold and silver be after I have entered my protest against it and have giv~n to the certificates, and I was one of them, to furnish a safe, convenient paper country my reasons for so protesting. currency, every dollar ef which could be nsed just as the coin paid for If the managers of the :finances of France bad treated her silver coin- it could be, mtd which would be secure(} by the deposit of an equal ageasourofficialsbaveoursshewouldhavebeenprostrated,:financially, amount of coin in the Treasury. No better security could be asked at the feet of England and Germany long ago. . or given. It w3.s not thought desirable to have the coin of either Why have the holders of the dishonored trade-dollar been impor- metal exposed to the risk of loss or reduction of value by the abm­ tuning Congress for years to give them in exchange for it a standard sion which necessarily accompanies its active use. The transporta­ doll:l.l' containing 412~ grains, while it contains 420? Simply because tion of both was known to be dangerous and expensive; all the ex­ one is a legal tender and will pay the debts of its owner, and the other pense and risk, as well a8 the deterioration of the coin, was avoided will not. Yet tested by the bullion value the trade-dollar is worth the by the nse of the paper substitutes, while the United States were sure most. . When our Treasury officials yielded to the clamor of the bond- to be amply compensated for all the expenses incurred for vaults, ens­ holders and violated the law by admitting their right to refuse silver tod.ians, and everything else. rec~iv~d at the custom-house in payment of the-interestorprincipalof We-I mean by we all the people-received a coin dollar for every the1r bonds, they degraded our standard silver dollar by depriving it of paper dollar issued. We only pay out the coin on the paper brought its mqst important function as a legal tender; and now, having captured back to our agents. All of it that is lost or deStroyed by fire, flood, or the executive branch of the Government, the bondholders and their at- the thousand accidents that all transitory things are subject to is our torneys are besieging Congress to enforce their demand for gold alone gain. We had experience in operations of that sort, and kne~ that in the settlement oftheircl~, all law, justice, and equity to the con- they were profitable. Forty-five millions of dollars of fractional cur­ trary notwithstanding, by striking down the silver of the standard rency was issued. We afterward called it in for cancellation, a.nd we value of July, 1870, which they then demanded and inserted in the nowknowthat$lf},OOO,OOO,orone-thirdofit, hasbeenlostordestroyed . .face of every bond they hold as one of the coins in which the bonds We made $15,000,000 out of that issue, as we received full considera­ should be paid. It ~ hard to do justice to their audacity in temperate tion for the whole amount issued. We only redeem such national-bank language; I hardly think I am equal to the task, and will not attempt notes as are .returned; and the amount now known to be lost is so grea.t it. I can, however, ge~ the facts before the people. that the COmptroller is devising all sorts of ingenious planS in his report The last report of th~ Treasurer, page 35, shqws that the receipts at to get it away from us for the benefit of the banks. None of them lost the New York custom-house for the fiscal year 1885, were paid as any of it. The people who borrowed it or worked for it, after the banks follows: got value received for it, were the sufferers; yet the Comptroller wants United States legal-tender notes _____ $36,161,000, or 28.9 per cent. it all for the banks. I expect they will get it. They have as much United States gold coin______1, 544,000, or L 2 per cent. right to it as to have their interest and principal paid in gold alone o'r United States gold certificates______42,779,000, or 34.1 per cent. to have our silver stricken down. I have no idea that $300,000,000of United States silver certificates______44, 660, 000, or 35. 6 per cent. the $346,000,000 of greenbacks charged in the reports as outstanding United States silver coin______158, 000, or 0.1 per cent. aould be returnedifthQywere called in to-day. Alllo~t is clear pront _____ to the Government. It is a sufficient answer to all the clamor about TotaL ______125,302,000, or 100 per cent. ~pense and vaults that the coin is preserved from loss and from abra- SIOn, and that our gain from the loss of the outstanding paper, if it is It is fair to assume that the p·ayments at the other custom-houses kept in denolllinations in which it will circulate, as it ought to be, will were made in substantially the same character of money. It will be ~plycompensatetheUnited States for all theexpensesofitssafe-keep· observed that more of the cmtoms dues were paid in silver and silver mg. 356 CONGRESSIONAL _RECORD-. SENATE. DECEMBER 21,

The object we ·an had in view by keeping in actual nse paper substi­ troller or·a bank attorney would venture to assert that the.Secretary of tntes for gold co.in to the extent of the coin deposited has been grossly the Treasury is not as likely to be honest and careful of the public in­ perverted. The coin is locked up, and four-fifths of the certificates is­ terest in maintaining and keeping the necessary amount of circulation sued are of such high denominations that they are of no sort of use as afloat for legitimate business pmJ>oses as bank presidents would be, who currency. are under no obligation to consult the public welfare, but, as the pri­ The Treasurer's report, page 23, shows that on the 30th of June, vate interests of their stockholders demand·, may contract or expand 1885, the outstanding gold certificates amounted to $137,760,860, of their issues as the one course or the other best subserves their private which all but·$33,36Q,OOO were in denominations of$500 and upward, ends regardless altogether of the public weal; indeed, they are apt to more than $55,ooo;ooo of them being for $10,000 each. It is obvious be enriched when they can most surely oppress the ma.Sses. that the people get no benefit in the form of currency when bills or Yet, in the face of his claim that all other circulation is unsafe, the certificates exceed $100. Comptroller shows that the decrease in national-bank circulation in The Director of the :Mint, on page 29 of his report, speaking of these the last three years amounts to over $48,000,000, and says that it would paper substitutes, says: "As these certific..'l.tes represent coin in the have decreased $25,000,000 more if the Secretary of the Treaswy had Treasury, which coin can only be used in their redemption, they really not come to their rescue by refusing·to use the money at his command form a part of the active coin circulation of the country." The Director, in the purchase of the 3 per cent. bonds on which their circulation perhaps, did not know that $55,000,000 of them were for $10,000 ea-ch, is based; in other words, the people have lost over $2,000,000 ofinterest as it would be absurd to speak of such notes or certificates as forming and the bankers have made $6,000,000 on loans by the operation. The part of our active circulation. · . Comptroller shows very clearly why the bondholders are so anxious to The Treasurer's report (page 24) shows that on June 30, 1885, silver get clear of the silver dollar; they fear that the premium on their bonds certificates amounting to $139)901,646 were outstanding, and that will fall if they are paid in whole or in part tD silver. But he stated $103,758,091 were in ten and tweutydolllar bills, in about equ'al propor­ the whole case so clearly that I will read~ . on page 15 of his report: tions. None were higher than 1, 000; so t4at the only real currency fur­ It will be seerr that the banks held on November I, 1884, $155,604,400, and on nished to the people in the shape of certificates is that based on the de­ November 1, 1885, $138,920,650, of 3 percents under the net of ,July 12, 1882, pay­ posit of silver coin. Yet the dollars so deposit-ed are held up as useless able at the pleas~re of the Government. The Secretary of the Treasury,.dur­ ing the ·year ending November 1, 1883, paid S105,63ll50, and during the year incumbrances, performing no function of value, and all our officials ending November 1, 1884, $100,970,450 of the public debt. In Ul.e latter year 3 join in the crusade against them and the certificates that represent percents only were called. No l?onds were called for the year ending Novem­ them, and urge Congress to withdraw the one and stop the coinage of ber 1, 1885. Reasoning upon the theory that the public debt would, during the year ending November 1,1885, continue to be reduced by the payment of 3 per the other. I do not propose to do either unless better reasons are given cent-. bonds, and that this reduction would occasion the reinvestment of trust why it should be done than any I have yet seen or heard. I would, and other funds invested in threes, and cause a greater demand for. and conse­ however, amend the law so that no certificate should be of a higher quent increase in the price of 4 per cent. bonds to a point at which it would be more profitable for the national banks tO sell them, the Comptroller estimated denomination than $500, and not more than 25 per cent. of the amount in his last annual report to Congress, that unless legislation should be secured outstanding at any time should be of denominations higher than $50. enabling the banks to issue currency nt a fair profit, circulation would be re­ The legal-tender notes, too, are attacked. It seems as though every duced.at the rate of at least$-10,000,000 per annum. It is belie\"ed that this esti­ mate would have been substantially correct had the Government continued dur­ form of currency which costs nothing and enriches nobody is condemned. ing 1885 to call and pay the 3 per cent. bonds as rapidly o.s during the two previ­ It is assumed that the Government has no right to use its own credit ous years. or to furnish any part of the currency the people need. Legal-tender The reduction of circulation of national banks dming the year ending No­ vember 1,1885, for reasons other than theca.ll of bonds by which it was secured, notes are denounced as a forced loan, as rag-babies, shinplasters, in­ was greater than anticipated. The causes which have led to this result are deed every opprobrious epithet has been hurled against them by those small profit remaining to national banks on circulation after paying the tax of who insist that they must be vesled with the sole right to issue cur­ 1 per cent. per annum imposed by the Government; reduction in the rates of intel'est throughout the country, occasioned by the abundance of money in the rency to loan at a profit to themselves, and to dictate through their or­ .financial centers; and, doubtless, uneasiness runong certain of the bankers of ganization how much or how little it is most profitable to them to keep the country as to the· outcome of the increase of silver in the Treasury, such in circulation. But the people and their representatives have so far · increase indicating that possibly the interest on the public debt, and even some portion of the principal, might be paid in standard sil·ver doUars, and that Government sustah~ed the greenbacks, and while they have always been repudiated bonds might thereby become depreciated in foreign markets, whioh would un­ to the extent that they could not be legally paid at the custom-houses doubtedly affect their-price in this counlry. The credit and standing of this for duties on imports, and that is the law now; over$47,000,000 of them country is deservedly high, and it is not believed that the people desire either the principal or interest on the bonded debt of this country to be pa.id in any- . were received for duties last year ·in New York alone by ex-ecutive or­ thing but gold coin or its equivalent. . ders in plain violation of law. The ~ajorityoftheSenate refuse4last yeartomakethem receiveable for duties, and yet we permit $47,000,000 I think the Comptroller makes it clear that the country can not af­ of them to be so received. I have a bill now before the Finance Com­ ford to rely.for its circulation on national-bank notes. He asserts that mittee making it legal to receive them for customs dues, as I. believe the bankers will surrender their circulation· and sell th~ bonds upon they ought to be; yet I insist that no executive officer onght to be al­ which it is based, regardless altogether of the public needs, whenever lowed to do ~ything in violation of law, or to be placed in a position they can make more money by selling the bonds than they can by loan­ in which he feels authorized or compelled to disregard it. ing the circulation. We all know that to be true. Congress by the act of May 31, 1878 (see Statutes at Large, volume Can Congress afford to vest absolute power over the contraction and 20, page 87), made an effort to retain what was then left of the legal­ expansion of the circulating medium which regulates all our transac­ tender notes, and to preserve them in such shape that they would be tions exclusively in the hands of men who gamble with it for private currency in the hands of the people. We provided, in substance, that gain without any sort of public responsibility? whenever legal-tender notes are received at the Treasury from any I think not; yet, if we retire the greenbacks and the silver certifi­ source they · ~Shall not be retired, but shall be reissued and paid out cates, as our officials advise us to do, we will have no currency but na­ .again and kept in circulation, and that new notes of the same denom­ tional-bank notes left, which th.ey can expand or contract at pleasure. ination of those returned because too much mutilated for use shall be Nobody pretends that in the reduction of these notes from $324,-000,000 issued in their stead. It is obvious that Congress did not intend to in November, 1882, to $276,000,000 inNovember, 1885, the public inter­ allow any increase of the denomination of the legal-tender notes above ests or needs were for a moment considered. . what 'existed when that act was passed; yet the table on page 20 of the · I desire to state with great distinctness that I am not makiogwar on Treasurer's report shows t~t bills of the denomination of $500 have bondholders or national banks or barurers. I voted to renew their char­ increased in the last year nearly $10,000,000, while those of smaller ters, to repeal all taxes on their capital and deposits, and will cheer­ denominations have been proportionally decreased. fully vote for any and all measures necessary to add t-o their usefulness, There can be but one purpose in this attack all along the line on either by increasing their' circulation to par with the bonds deposited, everything except gold and national-bank notes, and that is to trans­ or, if it can be done with justice to theircompetitorsin business, reduce_ fer to the holders of our bonds absolute power over the currency, which or repeal the tax on their circulation. But I would require them to take means over the business of the country. the same coins, both gold and silver, that all other creditors of the Govern­ The report of the Comptroller of the Currency develops that purpose, ment receive. I shall always oppose the grant or recognition of any perhaps, more plainly than the others. After insisting that Congress superior rights or privileges in them or in the obligations they hold over should repeal the tax on circulation, give up the profit made on the those of other citizens. I would ill: vorce them from politics, and deprive lost bank notes, or put it into a safety fund with other things for the them of power to control or influence legislation by cOntracting or ex,. benefit of the banks, he adds, on page 18: panding or by threatening to interfere with our citrrency, as was done Such legislation would have the effect of maintaining bank-note circulation, when they obtained President Hayes's 'fetoon a memorable occasion. I and prevent its being suP.erseded by Government issues, which an authority .as would require them to obey the law and receive the coin which we take high as Alexander Hamilton has said "are of a nature so liable to abuse, and it may even be affirmed so certain of being abused, that the wisdom of the Govern­ at the custom-house and set apart as a special thnd for their security ment will be shown in never b.-usting itself with the IJSe of so seducing a,nd dan­ and payment. When we say by law, as we have done, that "nona­ gerous an experiment.'' tional banking association shall be a member of any clearing-bouse in I assume that it is too clear to ·admit of debate, no matter what :Mr. which such (silver) certi:Q.cates shall not be receivable in the settlement Hamilton or anybody else said, that a circulating note, in any form, of clearing-house balances," I would forfeit the charter of any bank properly secured, is as good when issued by the Government as a like that dared to disobey the law, as I would fine and imprison any officer note would be when issued by a corporation created by the Government of any of them who would certify checks when the funds were not actu·. !llld secured by a Government bond; and hardly anybody but the Comp- ally in the bank at the time. 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 357

I u short, no set of men should be allowed to exercise privileges pro­ essary, as all or nearly aU the silver ooin in the Treasury was repre­ hibited by law, nor have rights given to them in regard to the character sented by outstanding silver certificates: and quality of the coin in which their debts shall be paid which are TREAstmY DEPARTMENT, SECRETARY'S OFFICE, denied to all other equally meritorious creditors; and no set of men Washington, D. 0., Novembe-r 1, 1881. sl10uld ever hn.ve power t<> regulate or control, as tlteir privn.te interests Until fuxther notice the exchange of silver certificates for gold coin deposited at the office of the United States assistant treasuxer at New York will be sus­ may be affected, the currency or the business of the people. If that pended, and Department circular No. 75, of September 18, 1880, is hereby modi­ power is yielded or conceded to them, with legal-tender notes and silver fied accordingly. • certificates withdrawn and gold paid to them, 'and to them alone, for H. F. FRENCH, their interest nnd bonds, Congress would be powerless to resist any Act·ing secretary. demands our bondholders and bankers might make. I know their Subsequently this restriction was removed for a time and over 80,- power and appreciate the adroitness with which they can have their 000,000 of silver certificates were taken principally by the people of the claims presented. Even the President in his mes...c:;age has been induced South and West in exchange for gold coin. The privilege was finally to say that up to the present time only about 50,000,000 of the silver withdrawn in january, 1885. I ask in view of these facts how it can dollars we have coined have found their way into circulation. He modi­ properly be charged that the people will not use the silver coinage, fied that statement by showing that a large amount of silver certifi­ that they are hoarding gold, that the depreciated paper will soon greatly mtes were outstanding. impair the purchasing power of the poor man's wages, and that we are But the press of the country has taken up_the first statement, leav­ on the verge of a financial crisis unless we bring all our transactions at ·ing out all the qualifications, and p3J1lde jt before the country as con­ once to a gold basis? clusive evidence that too much silver has alrea~y been coined, and that It must not be forgotten that all the gold coin deposited for silver all of it is an incumbrance except about $50,000,000. They utterly certificates became at once the property of the United States; it was ignore the fact which the official reports show that at the close of the not held in the Treasury for their redemption. .An equal amount of last fiscal year, June 30, 1885, out of a total ·coinage of $203,000,000, silver coin took its place for that purpose at once. Men who owned $140,000,000 in _round numbers was in active circulation in the form of gold all overtheSouthaud West, in Louisville, Indianapolis, Nashville, silver certificates, in addition to the coin in the hands of the people, of ru1d other places, as well as those cities named in the report, sent their which certificates $44,660,000 was paid to the Government for customs coin at their own expense to the assistant treasurer in New York in dues during the last fiscal year at the port of New York alone-more than order to have silver certificates delivered to them for use as currency was paid in gold and gold certificates combined. Why is not the coin at home. Yet during all that time the bullion value of gold in London represented by these certificates as much in active circulation as if it was at least 15 per cent. more than silver, and the country was being was passed from hand to hand as often as the certificates are? I ask, periodically alarmed, and Congress advised by our officials that gold is it fair to complain o1the silver held in the Treasury as being expen­ was leaving the country, that silver was a degraded standard of value, sive and useless, under such circumstances, and yet.not utter one word and that its coinage must be stopped or its weight increased or ruin of complaint in regard to o>er $137,000,000 of gold coin locked up, at would speedily be upon us because of its depreciation in the London the same time and in the same way, represented by the same sort of market. · certificates, most of them in a far less useful form? Ifour officials would The facts I have stated-overthrow all the speculations of the theorists. unlock the Treasury vaults and pay our interest-bearing debt with the Our business men gladly exchanged their gold coin for silver certifi­ money they are complain-tug of being overwhelmed with they would cates and did not ~k any better security for the paper they took than be doing their duty more satisfactorily than by the course they are now the silver dollar deposited in the Treasury. So far from hoarding gold pursuing. because of its greater bullion value in aforeign.market, theysent it to The_President says: a distant depository to get the paper we are advised is dishonest money A special effort bas been made by the Secretary of the Treasury to increase because it is depreciated 15 or 20 per cent. below gold in London. I the amount of our silver coin in circulation. · have thus imperfectly outlined the reasons why I cannot sustain at this Let him make one more effort and pay out the $60,000,000 or $75,- time a policy which seeks to withdraw either our legal-tender notes, 000,000 he received for customs dues, and which he has no use for, in the silver certificates, or stop the silver coinage, and I see no propriety payment of interest and in the :redemption of the bonds- now redeem­ in increasing the weight of our silver coin beyond the standard value able, and the ordinary expenses of the Government will keep the vaults fixed by law in July, 1870, under and by which all our outstanding reasonably clear of all, not represented by certificates or bills, which bonded indebtedness is regulated. I am convinced that we can no the people have a right by law to demand on making a deposit of coin. longer look with safety to tbe national banks to furnish the country No public creditor other than the bondholder has ever complained with a stable currency. · w ben payment is made to him in silver or silver certificate."~. All other I insist that every creditor of the Government is by law entitled to creditors are entitled to the same consideration as the holders of our be paid in the same coin, and that our Treasury officials should be re­ bonds. We as a tax-paying people are not interested in keeping our quired to pay silver as well as gold when received for customs dues to bonos 24 per cent. above par when we must soon bey them with our our bondholders, as they do to all others who have legal demands upon 3urplns revenues. the Treasury; that done there will be no need, at least for years to I may observe here that silver certificates are now and ba e always come, to strike down silver in any form. The country is now rallying been a popular currency. from a long period of depression. All railroad securities recently fell · The Treasurer in his last report, page 24, says: 50 per cent. on the average in eighteen months. Wheat, cotton, cat­ The issue of silver certificates by Treasury officers in the South and West tle, hogs, all farm products, are even now so depressed that they leave for gold coin deposited with the assistant treasuxer at New York, under De­ no profit to the producer, even after he pays the lowest wages for which partmental circular of September 18, 1880, was discontinued in January last. The amOtmt which had been issued in that manner to the date named was he can obtain labor in their production. Foreign nations are closing ~ , 730,500. their ports against our leading exports and throwing all obstacles pos­ The Treasury order referred to reads thus: sible in the way of our commerce. " TREAsURY DEPARTMENT, SECRETARY'S OFFICE, Oar carrying trade is gone and is in the hands of our foreign com­ " Washington, D. a., September 18,1880. petitors. We need to use all our resources ofboth gold and silver, and "Until further notice the United States assistant treasurer in New York will pay· out at his counter standard silver dollars or silver certificates in sums of $10, their paper representatives, to enable us to regain our lost prestige or any multiples thereof, in exchange for like amounts of gold coin or gold bull­ and to develop our resources in the most economical way. Contrae­ ion deposited with him. · tion, or destruct-ion ofanypart of our means is, in my judgment, fatal "Upon the receipt by the Treasuxer of the United States in this city of an origi­ nal certificate of deposit issued by the United States assistant treasuxer at New to our laboring and especially to our debtor classes. So believing, I Yotl!:, stating that there has been deposited with him gold coin or gold bullion am opposed to it. in tne sum of S!O, or any multiple thereof, payment of a. ·like amount in stand­ Mr. President, I will only add that I have no interest in the silver ard silver dollars or silver certificates at the counter of any United States assist­ ant treasurer designated by the depositor will be ordered. question other than my conviction in regard to the best interest of the "JOHN SHERMA.N, Secretary." country. I never owned a dollar's worth of stock, directly or indi­ The Treasurer of the United States ·in his report to Congress dated rectly, in any silver Qr other mine. The people I repr~ent here are November 1, 1880, says: not specially interested in it. We are in the central portion of this great continent, and our prosperity depends on tbe prosperity of every The demand for silver certificates under the circular of the Department dated September 18, 1800, authorizing their exchange for golote itself to the subject. I understand that the Com­ montp. of December, 1885, on the 21st day of sn.id month; and it was mittee ori Public Lands have their time very much occupied with thereupon signed by the President pro tempore. many important matters already before it. :Mr. ALLISON. It seems to me that the resolution itselfshould go to FLORIDA PUBLIC LANDS. the Committee on Public Lands, and then with the knowledge they have 1\Ir. CALL. I ask unanimous consent to submit at this time a reso­ upon the subject and with the information they have derived from va­ lution. rious sources they may wish to enlarge the scope of the inquiry or they The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Chair hears no objection, and may not think it necessary; I do not know. tbe resolution will be read. Mr. CALL. I suggest to the honorable Senator that while I shall The Chief Clerk read the resolution, as follows: not be very importunate for a special committee, the Committee on Resolved, That n. special committee of five Senators be, and are hereby, ap­ Public Lands are engaged almost all their time; and will be at this ses­ pointed, who shall be, and are hereby, charged with an ip.vestigation of all al­ sion, in hearing various representatives of different railroad corporations leged unlawful, unauthorized, or fraudulent p.ppropriations of the public lands of the United States in the State of Florida, to the detriment of actual settlers, on the subject of the forfeiture of milroad lil.p.d grants, and that they or homesteaders, or purcha...'"ers for cash, or of the United States, under the sev­ will have very little time to devote themselves to this subject. I have era lacts of Congress making grants of the public domain to the State of Florida no objection to an amendment of the resolution so as to include all and otherwise. And that the Commissioner of Public Lands furnish sa1d com­ mittee with a competent clerk from the office of Public Lands. And that they other States. have authority to send tor persons and papers, and to employ a stenographer. J\fr. ALLISON. The Senator misunderstands me. I do not wish to And that said committee report to the Senate the evidence taken by them and have this subject examined by the Committee on Public Lands, but their recommendations on the subject. · only that the Committee on Public Ln.nds shall report whethe.r it is Ur. CALL. J\fr. President, in offering the resolution it is not my necessary to raise a special committee for the purpose; in other words, intention to make or suggest either directly or indirectly any charge that the resolution shall go to the Committee on Public Lands and be against any official either of the Federal or the State Government. reported back with such recommendation as that committee may see fit There have come to me in the past twelve months numerous letters in to make. That is my idea in regard to a special committee~ or if the which it has been alleged that there have been improper dispositions Committee on Public Lands can undertake the investigation, it seems of the public lands of the United States in Florida to a large extent; to me wiser and better that they should make it. They must have a and for the purpose of doing justice to the people who have made the large amount of information upon the general topic, and indeed the in­ charges ·as well as to allow an opportunity for refutation on the part of vestigations of the committee are in the very direction indicated by the those who may be connected with them, I have thought it right to ask Senator from Florida. in many respects; that is, as to public lands in­ that the mn.tter may be investigated by the Senate. cluded in railroad land grants. I only ask a reference of the resolution There has been a. very large amount of the public lands of the United to the Committee on Public Lands. It seems to me that it ought to States appropriated under the several acts of Congress within the last be referred to the committee. few years, and there have been very great complaints on the part of Mr. CALL. It was my purpose in offering the resolution to send up homesteaders and other settlers of interference with their rights under and have read a number of letters from gentlemen of character and the law by the locations that have been made. I think the subject is consideration asking that some action might be taken. The.subject is of sufficient importance to have the matter investigated by the Senate, of necessity one which will require special proof and investigation into and upon conference with members of the Committee on Public Lands each individual case. I do not know that there is anything before the they have some of them suggested to me that it would be better if it· Committee on Public Lands or accessible to them beyond these letters were done by a special committee of the Senate than by that committee, making statements in individual cases which have come to me, some who are already charged with various important bills. of which I ask the consent of the Senate to publish in the RECORD as. If there be no objection to the adoption of the resolution I will ask part of my remarks. I shall not detain the Senate by reading them. for its present consideration. I do not undertake to say that there is any truth in these statements, :Mr. J'40RRILL. It should be referred. but only state that there have been complaints from men of great J\Ir. HOAR. Is there legal authority in the Senate to direct the Inte­ respectability and character, stating the facts in individual cases. If rior Department or a bureau in it to furnish a clerk for the use of the there is any truth in the statements, then the-re is a subject upon whlch Senate? Congress should take some action, but the proof of the fact whether lli. CALL. I do not know in regard to that. It might be made a there is or not remains to be discovered by this proposed committee. simple request if the Senator thinks there is any difficulty in that re- There is nothing now before the Committee on Public Lands, and spect. · there can be nothing .accessible to them until they send for witnesses Mr. HOAR. I do not propose to interfere with the Senator's reso­ and examine them as to specific statements in each particular case. lution, but I should think he had better give the committee the ordi­ For that reason I should prefer a special committee, though I should nary authority to appoint a clerk, and then if the chairman of the com­ have no objection to their being charged with the inquiry into every mittee wants a clerk of special skill he can make the arrangement with other State where other statements of like character may be made if the proper Depn.rtment. Certainly we have no such authority as to the Senator will not object to it. If he does, I shn.ll of coUISe accept direct the Department to furnish a clerk. whatever order the Senate may make in the premises. Mr. CALL. I shall have no objection to amending the resolution Mr. PLUMB. Is the resolution before the Senate? by inserting the word ... request," but it was suggested to me by the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. It is not before the Senate except by Assistant Secretary of the Interior that there are some very well quali­ unanimous consent. The Senator from Florida. asks the unanimous fied clerks there who are familiar with the subject. consent of the Senate to proceed to the consideration of the tesolution. Mr. HOAR. I should object to having either of them as I am at Is there objection? present advised. I think the ordinary authority of a committee to :Mr. 1\fORRILL. I think it ought to go to the Committee on Public appoint a clerk should be put in, and then the chairman can make any Lands before it is considered here. arrangement with a particular Department to furnish him a clerk that 1\Ir. PLUMB. Before thn.t is done-- is lawful and proper. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The resolution is not before the SeD' 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 359 ate except by unanimous consent. Isthereobjection toitspresentcon- Now, when these lands were advertised for sale I went up to secure mine. When I got there I wM informed by one Ricord, who is an employe of the company, sideration? . that my land was sold. I then appealed to Mr. Wailes, and he told me that he Mr. :MORRILL. I have no objection to itsbeingreferredtotheCom­ would make everything satisfactory. . mittee on Public Lands, but I think that committee ought to decide Mr. W. B. Clarkson then told me that his cousin, .Tames L. Olarkson, had bou()'ht the property to befriend my father-in-law, P.l\l. Alexander. Ithen told whether the investigation should be made by a special committee and him"'if that was the case I would relinquish to H.l\I. Bratton, which I did. On whether it should apply to Florida or include the whole country. my return home I got my father, .r . .r. Thrasher, to borrow the money at 12 per The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Chair understands the Senator cent.. and go and pay ~Ir. Bratton, which he did, and h a d l\fr, Bra tton to order the company to make him the deed. Now Mr. Bratton told my fa ther that the from Vermont as objecting to the further consideration of the resolu­ company made him pay $5peracre for the land. My father, b elieving the stat-e­ tion. ment, paid the money; but when the deed comes it only ca1ls for $4 per n.cr~. Mr. MORRILL. I move that the Senate proceed to the consideration It also comes aecompanied with the following letter from "\V. B. ClarkS()n m of executive business. way of explanation: The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Florida asks the .T• .T. THRASHER, Hatton, Fla.: unanimous consent of the Senate to print in the RECORD certain letters MY DEAR Sm: As agent for my cousin, .r. L. Clarkson, and following his in­ structions, I inclose herein yonrdeed from F. R. & N. Co: for 80 acres land in to which he has referred. Is there objection? The Chair hears none, section 21, T. 25, R. 21. 1\Iycousin paid S5 pel" acre , as follows : $!to the company and that leave will be granted. and $1 per acre for securipg land in advance. The price was marked at $3 per The letters are as follows: acre and would have cost you just that much had you bought yourself; but I succeeded in reducing the price t-o ~per acre, which, with the cha rge as above, ORLANDo, ORANGE CoUNTY, FLORIDA, November l6, 1885. raised the price to f5 per acre, as before. I hold receipt to show this. So then Sm: Some time last .Tune I wrote your Department relative to applications you only pay what you would have had to pay if you h a d bought it yourself. pending to have certain United States lands selected under Congressional act I make this explanation to show why.T. L. C. charged you $5 per acre; 'tis what of 1850 (swamp and overflowed) as State lands in townships as follows: 22 south, he himself paid. of ranges 30 and 31 east, comprising nearly 13,000 acres of la.nd; also township "Very truly, yours, CLARKSON.'• 21 south, of ranges 30~ 31, 32, a.nd 33 east. I then inquired what measures were "W. B. pending to ascertain now much of these lands could be properly classified as Hon. WILKINSON OALL, swamp and overflowed. informing your Department that some of them, from per­ Jacksonville. sonal knowledge (perhaps one-quarter to one-third at least), were high, dry I then wrote Mr. Wailes a letter, telling him what W. B. Olarkson had writ­ lands, and nearly one-half in township 22 south, of ranges 30and 31 east, saying ten my father, and asked him if the statement was a true one,. and if the rate of that I did not wish to contest the right to have them selected as State lands. I my land was not $2.50 per acre instead of $5 per acre, nnd the following is his assumed then, as I assume now, that your Department will have competent and reply. You will see that he doesnot answer a single q ue"stion I asked him to: trustworthy agents to report upon them before they are approved as State se­ lections. \Vhat I desire to know sptcially is the condition of the pending ap­ "DEAR Sm: Replying to yours of 3d instant, I . would state that the southeast plications. How soon will they probably be disposed of?. And if a,ny remain quarter of section 21, T. 25 S., R. 21 E., was relinquished by you December 4, United States lands I desire to make selections therefrom. Some, if not all, of 1S84, to Henry N. Bratton for value received, and in accordance with sa id re­ linquishment we sold the land to Mr. Bratton, and not to Mr: B. Clark­ these applications were filed about last ~larch; and my first correspondence ,V. with your Department, as I now recall it, was some time in .Tune last. I have son, as your letter states. Mr. Clarkson also informs u.s that he has nevet· made several ineffectual requests through the department at Gainesville for bought any land of us for you. We cau not see, therefore, that you have any full information, and especially to know by name the person or persons who cause of complaint against the company or against Mr. Clarksvn. filed the applieations, whether as individuals, corpora.tions, or State officials. "Yours, respectfully, I understood that some of these lands are ready to be approved as State selec­ "S. I. WAILES, L. 0. tions as soon as parties can be secured to purchase them from the State. Can it ''Pel' STANFORD.'' be possible that these lands are thus withdrawn and withheld from entry from "Mr. c. B. THRASHER, the time of the filing of these applications to this date in the interest of specu- "Dade OUy, Fla." lators? ·. Now, sir, what am I to do? Shall I fold my hands and silently submit to this If your Department will promptly answer this letter, by advancing the corre· outrage, because I am not able to take any proceedin~ against them? I can but spondence to the head of the list·, I may be able to give further and more specific cry to Heaven, because I know there is no law to ptotect a poor man, because information, should your Department deem it advisable to be further informed. he has no money to law with. I now aver, as I did in .Tune last, that these lands as one body should not be I do not think that there is hardly a settler in this country but what would passed to the State and the opportunity taken away from those who desire to gladly take the amount he has paid out for these lands with the value of his im­ homestead them under the national laws before se&rching inquiry be had by provements added on, and kick the dust fl'Om his feet and leave the State. They your Department; and if any have already been approved as State selections, an have made appeals aftel' appeals to the Government for proteclion against this abrogating order should promptly issue, pending further inquiry. company, but alas! it was all in vain, and nearly every o ne of the settJers to-day Awaiting your early reply, I am, is in a state almost equal to beggary itself. They are like a helmless ship at sea Yours, very respectfully, without compass or rudder, at the mercy of every wind and wave, for they know A. B. LONGAKER. of no power that they can appeal to for protection. Ron. SECRETARY OF INTERIOR. I tell you, sir, that the time is not far distant when the pOOJ! pe?ple of th~s country will be forced to resort.to desperate means for the protection of thetr families and themselves against these unprincipled corporations that would rob ORLANDO, November 23, 1885. them of the last vestige they had and cause their children to beg bread. MY DEAR Sm : I regret that I did not meet you during you~ late stay in and If you willonly standuptothesettleryou will long be remembered and never visit at Orlando. I have lately been visiting and prospecting the lands in Polk, forgotten by the good people of Hernando County, Florida. Manatee, Monroe, Hillsborough, Dade, Brevard, and have been thoroughly ac­ Hoping to hear from you soon, I remain, most respectfully, quainted in Orange County, and quitefamiliarheretoforewiththewhole south­ · C. B. THRASHER. ern region of the counties south of this, and I can safely say there are several N. B.-I would write to the press, but do not know of a paper that would pub­ hundred thousand acres of United States lands which I understood is sought to lish without pay. You can use this any way you please. If you think there is betaken and selected as Stat~ land under the allegation that-it is swamp and any chance for me to recover my money please write me how to proceed. overflowed, and I canJ~afely say from personal knowledge of the county gen­ erally that there are at least 100,000 acres tlui.t in no sense can be claimed to be Your friend, swamp and o"\'"erflowed; and I understand that the United States land in Man­ C. B. THRASHER. atee and Monroe has been applied for as State land. This region I have traveled over during the last six months, and find much of it high and dry, and which DAD;E CITY, FLA., July 7,1885. ought not to be permitted to be selected as State lands. · Senator CALL : I therefore ask you to interest yourself to prevent these lands from getting away from homesteaders, who ought to be secured the exclusive righttohome­ DEAR Sm: About February.l882, I wrote a letter to A. T. Williams, railroad steadthem; at all events they should not be taken from the United States Gov· land commissioner of what was known as the "Yulee" railroad lands, making ernmeut to get into railroad corporations and other monopolies. application for the east one-half of northeast one-quarter of sect ion 15, T. 25 S., R. Very truly yours, 21 E., and I received a circularsta.tingthattheh·lands ly ing in6 miles of railroad A. G~ ROBERTS. line, whichwasmappedon the Washington line, w ould besold to actual settlers Ron. W. CALL. at $2.50 per acre, and fartlter than 6 miles at $L25 p er acre. From this consider­ ation I madeimprovementand settlement in March following, and have resided on it continuously ever since. Now my land is apl)raised at 10 per acre, and WILDWOOD, FLA., .August 4, 1885. reserved, as they(the railroad company), say for railroad purposes. lam a poor man with a large family, and am not able to pay so much, aud would not have HoNORABLE Sm: I, as a citizen of Hernando County, Florida, having .~de settled had I known I would have had to pay so much. I am not able oo pay so improvement upon 160 acres of land claimed by the Yulee Railroad Company, m uch, and will have to leave my place if I can not getitforless. I write to you known latelyas the Flo;ida. Railway and Navigation Company's road, I settled for your advice a.nd see if you can not induce the company to let me have it at upon,thelandas a bonafidesettlerinsinceregoodfaith. Last December the lands Government price. · weresoldinmyabsence,whileiwaso:fffrommyplace,toamonopolizingparty. I The wa.y the railroad company have treated the people, they are now, except still hold my improvement, but, as the lands have been sold for 20 miles ahead of the land speculators, who bought their lands much less than t.he actual settlers the road, taking in my improvement at the same time, I have no courage to do who have bought, are praying for Congress to declare the lands forfeited and anything, not knowing what is best for me to do. I now write to you to give me subject them to hom.estead entry. But few settlers have paid up for their lands, your sincere and d efinite opinion as to whether these lands will be canceled at and m.any have not paid any, because they are not able, and the speculator will the n ext Congress or not. I have no courage to go ahead and make any further get them if there is no redress. improvements upon the lands until lean find outas to wheth er the la.nd will be Respectfully, canceled and revert back to the Government or not; so I thought it my duty J. J. ROGERS. to write to you and get your opinion relative to the matter as to those lands, P. S.-Please to write me as soon as possible. whether they will revert back or not. I made improvement on these lands, 160 acres, l\Iarch 18,1883, in good faith. Please address me by return of mail, to Reddick's Station, Marion County, Florida. In conclusion, I remain, · LEEsBURG, SuMTER CoUNTY, FLORIDA, October 9, 1885. Yours, very respectfully, Sm: Yours of the 22d ultimo to hand and contents noted. Allow IDe to thanlr OWEN BOYLE. you for the interest manifested in the Cauthen homestead matter. The old gen Ron. WILKINSON OALL, tleman has bought it out of the office. It is a great hardship upon him; but h' United States &nate, thought be had better do it, as the railroad was claiming it. I hope the home­ stead settlers will be protected in their rights and property and not let the rail road corporation swindle them out of their lands, Corporations must be held DADE CITY, FLA., June 13, 1885. in check as well as individuals. · DEAR Sm: I write you this to show you how the actual settler has been treated Yours, truly, by the Yulee Railroad Oompany. My father-in-law, P. M. Alexander, and my­ THOl\IAS C. LANIER. self settled upon this land, believing that we would get it at Government price. Ron. W. CALL, He is employed by one H. N. Bratton, who is a son:-in-law of .r. L. Clarkson. Washington. Olty, D.O. 360 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE·. DECEMBER 21,

BROOKS"\"ILLE, FLA., May 22, 1884. 11 OFFICE OF S. I. WAILES, DEAR Srn: Our county and other parts are much troubled at the course of " GainesV11le, February 15, 188.'5. the Yulee railroad officials. They are now sellL'lg their lands-their unearned "DEAR Sm: Did you receive my letter of July 30, 1885, about the price of lots 4, lm1ds, as we think-without anything more than a mere shadow of a rigHt. 7, and 8, section 10, township 19 south, range 16 east. I informed you by letter that For the people to be thus wantonly robbed of their moneynnd in many respects the land could be purchased at Government price ($1.25 per acre). There are their lands also is certainly a fraud punishable by law. W'ill you please answer 158.42 acres, which would amount to $198.02. Let me know whether or not you and giYc us your opinion on the subject. \Vill you give us your undinded sup­ wish to buy. port in Congress to help rid the country of so many fraudulent railroad officials, "Very truly, anti have the lands thrown back as Government land, and thereby greatly benefit "A.W.HAM. the masses anti add more to your already fair-won fame ns an honest promul­ .. s. A. GILMORE, Esq., gator of the rights of the people? "Cedar Key, Fla. N. A. WILLIAMS. .. OFFICE OF s. I. w AI1.E3, Hon. WILKINSON CALL. "Gainesville, Maul~ 7, 1885. "DEAR SIR: I am in receipt of yours of 28th ult. in regtud to lots 4. 7, a ntiS, sec­ SUMTER COUNTY, FLORIDA, October 19,1885. tion 10, township 19, range 16 east. The price named {$1.25) is the lowest price fixed for said lands. If I can be of any service to you in locating the improve­ DEAR Sm: I respectfully lay before your honor my complaint concerning my ments, &c., let me know; or if you desire other plats of the same I will attend land. I can not get any satisfaction about it from Gainesville. I have been living to your matter until a deed is secured for the sum of SlO. This is a sma.H fee, bu on it eYer since 1883. r.Iy father owned it in the date of 1880. I lived with him under the circumstances I will not charge more. Plense let me hear from you. nnd helped him cultivate and improYe it until I married, and in the date of 1883 "Very truly, 1 bought it and built on it, and sent my proof of this by two others, besides my "A. N.llAM. o wn oath. I sent my money, ~U8, with my affidavit. nnd application for the cast "S. A. GILMORE, Esq., half of the north we t quarter of section 11. and the east half of the southwest . "Cedar Key." quarter of section 2, township 21 so nth of range 24 east1 and they rejected it; nnd the 11 I SPilt ~')()to enter the northeast quarter of the northwest quarter of The next is from the Gainesville land office, MarCh 23, 188.'5: l:'ection 11 , townsbip21 south, of range 24ca ·t ,and it was refused, and tbeirexcuse "DEAR SIR: In reply to yours of 15th instant, I would state that Alexander was that it wa railroad reserved land. A nd now .1\Ir. Kin~ claims that he has Johnson's homestead, No.14116, conflicts with State selections. Should l\Ir. John­ bought it from the railroad compnu~·. nnd I wa11t you to 1~truct me how to son relinquish his homestead it could not be entered by any one while it con­ manage to !Jomestend or eHtcr, or whether I cP.n get it or not. If I can get it flicts with State selections. please instruct me; and if you want to see their letters, all you have got to do is "Respectfully, to let me know uud I will send them to you at once. I can prove all of this if "L.A. BARNES, Register." ·ou want me to. Please send me full instructions how to do and what to do and "S. A. GILMORE,Esq., nll about it. I am entitJed to a homestead and I want jt. Where I n.m living my "Cedar Key." impro\•ement is here. I am the only man that ever has lived on this land. · I w ant you to do all you can towards it, for I am a mighty poor man, andldon't So it appears that 1\Ir. Ham promised Gilmore what he could not perform, with want to lose it and have it took away by speculators. I have got about six what purpose is not very clear, but that he and D. M. Coffman intended, and in­ ncrPs of hummock land cleared and under a good fence and a dwelling-house tend, to cheatShriveroutofhis patentisenou~h. Shriver entered a pre-emption and corn-crib. If you can get it, all right; I will be more than glad. upon his tract, lot 6, section 26, and lot 7, sect10n 25, T.19, R.16, but was unable to Please let me hear from you soon. Direct to Exeter, Sumter County, Florida. raise the money when the timeblme to redeem it. He now has the money. He P:ease let me bear from you at once. has lived upon it continuou ly,.and is still upon it. Yours, respectfully, Respectfully, · JOHN REVELS. E. W. PERRY. WILKIN ON Hon. \VILKINSON CALL, lion. CALL, Washington, D. C. United States Senator, Washington, D. C.

CRYSTAL RIVER, FLA., May. EXECUTIVE OFFICE, Tallahassee, Fla., December 12, 1885. 'DEAR SIR: Inn. former letter I gayeyou a copy of a. letterfromD.M. Coffman, t l niled States timber agent·, which was as follows-(date March 18, 1885, from DEAR SENATOR: I have received copy of a communication from you to the United State.;; land office at Gainesville, Fla.): honorable Commissioner of Public Lands at Washington of date November 19, 1885, in which you inform the Commissioner that you have reason to believe, " l\Iv DEAR Sll!.: On my return here I found that the land you live upon belongs from information giyen to you by persons of good character, &c., th:lt there is to the State, or rn.ther ditl belong to it, but now belongs to a 1\Ir. Ham, of Jack­ an extensive and organized system of fraud practiced in connection with the sonville, but he has offered me one-half interest in it, which I will buy Saturday, land office in G~inesville in the appropriation of the public lands of the United and then some time next week I will write you again. We want about ten acres States for the benefit of speculators and to the det.riment of actunl settlers, cleared up right away, and then you can have some of the land or pay for your whereupon you request that there shall be no further approvals by the Land improvements. Department of selections from the State until Congress shall meet and this sub­ " Your friend, iect receive full investigation, and that you will ask for a committee of inYesti­ "D. M. COFFMAN. gation on the subject when Congress shall convene. "1\Ir, OLIVER SHRIVER, If there is any reason to suspect fraud or crookedness of any kind, either on "Crystal River, Fla." the part of those representing the United Slates or on the part of those who ·m I wrote to D. C. Wilson, esq., of Tallahassee, who replies," I fonnd that tho the past have repre entcd or who now may be representing the State in the lands in question do not now, and neTer did, belong to the State. Their status matter of swamp lands, to which I understand your communication refers, I beg is as follo~s: '.rhey were United States lands, and were selected by John A. to as ure you of my willingness to heartily co-operate in such investigation as Henderson, of this place, in 1884,and are comprised in his selection, List 18. will discover the wrong and in such steps as will repair any injury that may 'l'hcse lands have not as yet been patented to the State. I called on Colonel have resulted therefrom. · Henderson, and he says that by application to him before patent is issued to the I am totalJy in the dark as to the grounds of suspicion beyond what I can !:;tate, be will sell them at State prices to actual setl.lersin preference to any spec­ gr.therfrom your communication to the Commissioner, but from thntl would in­ ulators." Untler date of April23, 1885 (also from Gainesville land o.ffice), Coff­ fer that there must be suspicion against parties other than subordinates of the man writes as follows: · United States Government; for if not, I infer from the high character of the present officials of the Interior Department and the public confidence in their integrity '·' 1\I'v DEAR Sm: I failed to make trade with Ham. but he will be down himself and honest purpose to put down all crookedness in the administration of pub­ soon. The land you asked me to look after down the river belongs to a man by lic interests you would have first applied to that Department for the investiga­ the name of Hatton, iu Missouri. Hatton seems to have bought a good many tion before bringing the matter to the attention of Congress. la nds down there. I will probably be down in a. few weeks. Ham sa.ys.when II I am right in my inference that your information gives grounds for sus­ he gets everything in shape he will give you a. good job of· clearing, probably picion ago.inst any who have represented the State or are now doing so in the :·orty or fifty acres, at $12 an acre. You will give my kindest regards to Mrs. matter of determining what lands passed to the State by the act of 1850 as Sbri'\er and the children, also to Sharp and Carroll. Will say this to you, that swamp and overflowed l11.nds, am I asking too much in n.sking to be furnikh ed von must not be uneasy as to yourself or family on account of Ham's purchases. with the facts upon which such suspicions are based, as I feel as much interest While I can give you no definite answer yet, you will not be the loser or injured in straightening out crookedness, if any, on the part of those repre ent!ng the in any way, but, to the contrary, you will be benefited by the purchase. State in that matter or any other as you or Congress can possibly feel. •• Your friend, As to those representing the United States, I can not readily see ho'~ there "D. W. COFFMAN. could be ''an extensive and organized system of fraud practiced in connection " Mr. OLIVER SHRIVER, with the land office in Gainesville," such as to lead to a suspension of all further "Orysta~ River, Fla. approval by the Interior Department of selections of swamp and overflowed "P. s.-Tell Mr. Carroll I am ready to purchase the Sullivan land whenever he lands under the act of 1850, unless the State's representatives are in some way says to the commissioner that he releases it." implicated; and if so I desire it to be distinctly understood that I am anxious to co-operate in mak.i.cg the investigation a thorough one, whether it be made by This 11eeds no comment. Neither Ham nor Dutton could have purchased any th~ Department at Washington or by Congress, should resort thereto be neces­ of these lands, and it is clear that it is a. confedera{ly, probable with connivance, sary (which I can not imagine in view of the characte;of the present Land De­ if not the positive aid of the officin.ls of the Gainesville land office, to cheat the partment of the United States Government) or wherever and however it may settlers out of their lands. With thisS. I. Waileshassomeprobab1econnection, be proper that such investigation should be made. as will appear. I gi"\"e the letters in the order of their dates: Very truly, yours, "GAn.'ESVILLE LANP OFFICE, December ll, 1884. E. A. PERRY. Hon. WII..KINSON CALL, "Sm: Inclosed find map of township 19 south, range 16 east, as per your order United States Serw.tor, Washington, D. 0. of 23d ultimo. I have made you a $J --as per money forwarded. I can fur­ nish you with a dia,.o-ram showing land for $1 per township. The PRESIDENT pro tempore. · The Senator from Vermont moves "Respectfully, "L. A. BARNES, ~gister. that the Senate proceed to the consideration of executive business. " Mr. S. A . GILMORE, Mr. CALL. The Senator from Vermont consents to withdraw his "Crystal River, Fla." motion, I understand . .-,OFFICE OF S, J. )VAILES, LAND COMMISSIONER, . Mr. MORRILL. I withdraw the motion for the purpose of having "Gainesville, J amtary 30, 1885. the resolution referred to the Committee on Public Lands. "DEAR SIR: I am in condition to inform you that lots 4, 7, and 8, section 10, township 19 south, range 16, can be purchased at the Government price, which The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator from Vermont with­ is $1.25 per acre. These lots contain 138.49 acres; at the price named the pur­ draws his objection to the present consideration of the resolution with chase-money would amount to $198.02, which you can send me anti I will see a view to having it referred. thn.t y ou get your deed for the land. If the Johnson -entry is canceled it will rclie,·e the conflict with the State, and tllc lots can be purcha ed from the rep­ Ur. PLUMB. I renew the objection. , l'esentath·e of said State. Let me llear from you. l\Ir. CALL. I ask the Senator from Kansas to withdraw the objeq­ "Very respectfully, tion and allow me to b:LYe the resolution referred. "A. N. HAM. •• S. A. GILMORE, Esq., l\Ir, PLUMB. Allx·ight. I wish one moment, however, to say by "Cedar Key, Fla. way of explanation that this question I think the Senator fio:n Florida 1885. ~ CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 361 '

------~------somewhat mistakes. Certainly everything in relation to public lands ASSOCIATE JUSTICES. that has been made the subject of any complaint is or may easily be William W. Porter, of California, to be associate justice of the su­ brought to the attention of the Secretary of the Interior. If there­ preme court of the Territory of Arizona, t'ice Daniel H. Pinney, sus­ ports made there indicate that there is a defect in the law, then of pended. course Congress ought to act; but that it should ever go into the gen­ Louis K. Church, of New York, to be associate justice of the supreme eral discussion or investigation of individual cases of entry throughout court of the Territory of Dakota, vice Seward Smith, suspended. the entire country is absolutely physically impossible. I should be glad to have the case which the Senator from Florida UXITED STATES .A.TIOR:NEYS. makes present-ed to some committee, or to the Senate, ot to the coun­ William H. Denson, of Alabama, to be attorney oftheUnitedStates try, or anything of that kind which might meet with his views, but I for the northern and middle districts of Alabama, viceGeorgeH. Craig, think he is somewhat mistaken in regard to the scope which the inves­ suspended. tigation necessarily would take; and not for the purpose of enlarging Monti H. Sandels, of Arkansas, to be a.ttorney of the United States the duties of the committee of which I happen to be chairman but for the western district of Arkansas, vice William H. H. Clayton, sus- simply that this matter may be undertaken with a perfect knowfedge ~nded. · of what it will undoubtedly bring forth I thi~k myself the resolution Montfort S. Jones, of Louisiana, to be attorney of the United States ought to go to_ the Committee on Public Lands. for the western district of Louisiana, 'l:iM Milton C. Elstner, resigned. :Mr. CALL. I understand the Senator from Kansas does not object Charles Parlange, of Louisiana, to be attorney of the Uniterl States to a reference of the resolution to the Committee on Public Lands. for the eastern district of Louisiana, vice A. H. Leonard, suspended. Mr. PLUMB. No, not at all. I withdraw the objection. GeorgeN. Baxter, of Minnesota, to be attorney of the United States The PRESIDENT pro tempore. It is moved that the resolution be for the district of Minnesota,, vice D. B. Searle, resigned. referred to the Committee on Public Lands. If there is no objection J. Bomar Harris, of Mississippi, to be attorney of the United States the motlon will be considered agreed to. for the southern district of :Mississippi, vice Luke Lea, suspended. Mr. BLAIR. Before the matter is disposed of I shouid like to call Charles B. Hawry, of Mississippi, to be attorney of the United States the attention of the Senator from Florida to his suggestion to print in for the northern district of Mississippi, vice Green C. Chandler, sus- connection with what he ha.ssaid certain correspondence bearing upon p9ded. . the subject. Before the consent is given without objection I should Ernest Pillow, of Tennessee, to be attorney for the United States for like .to inquire of him the nature of the conespondence, whether it is the middle district of Tennessee, vice Andrew J. McLain, suspended. of a character which if not replied to w-ould be defamatory to incli- James C. J. Williams, of Tennessee, to be attorney of the United viduals officials, or others. • States for the eastern district of Tennessee, vice James U. Meek, sus­ :Mr. CALL. Not at all; there are no charges in reference to any in­ pended. dividuals or officials, either State or United Smtes. Rudolph Kleberg, of Texas, to be attorney of the United Sta,tes for :Mr. BLAIR. Then I have no o~jection to the printing. the western district of Texas, vice Andrew J. Emus, susp9ded. The PRESIDE~T pro tempare. That order has already been entered. John E. McComb, of Texas, to be attorney of the United States for the eastern district of Texas, vice .As..'l. E. Stratton, j r., suspended. EXECUTIVE SESSIO:N. · William H. White, of Washington Territory, to be attorney of the Mr. MORRILL.. I move that the Senate proceed to the considera­ United States for the Territory of Washington, t•ice John B. Allen, sus­ tion of executive business. pended. The motion was agreed to; and the Senate proceeded to the consider­ Arthur K. Delany, of Wisconsin, to be attorneyofthe United States ation of executive business. .After forty-two minutes spext in execu­ for the eastern district of Wisconsin, vice Gerry W. Hazelton, suspended. tive session the doors were reopened. Anthony C. Campbell, of Wyoming, to be attorney of the United MICHIGA:N, RAILROAD LANDS. States for the Territory of,Vyoming, t•ice John A. Riner, resigned. Mr. COCKRELL submitt-ed the following resolution; which wa.s re­ UNITED STATES IARSITALS. fen-eel to the Committee on Public Lands: William W . .Allen, of Alabama, to be marshal of the United States 'Vhereas by act of Congress approved June 3, 1856, there were granted to the for the middle and southern districts of Alabama, vice Joseph H. Speed, State of Michigan certain lands toaiu in the construction of railroads mentioned therein, among others fur a line from Marquette to Ontonagon and from the suspended.· two last named places ro the 'Visco111sin Stale lin~; and John Carroll, of Arkansas, to be marshal of the United States for the 'Vherens tlle State of Michigan conferred said grant from said points to the western district of Arkansas, vice Thomas Boles, suspended. St:J.te line upon two companies, known as the 011tonagon and State Line Rail­ road Company, aud the l\:IHrquette and State Line Railroad Company, which William C. Bird, of Florida, to be marshal of the United States fo:r said companies, or their successor, so located their respective lines as to leave the northern district of Florida, vice Joseph H. Durkee, resigned. coa1mou or overlapping limits nenr the State line at the Brule River; and Herman G. Weber, of Illinois, to be marshal ofthe United States for 'Vhereas by joint resolntion of Congress approved July 2. 1862, the grantees of the Stnte were authorized to construct and build t-he said road to the State the southern district of Illinois, vice John R. Tanner, suspended. line upon an·other and different route, aud said State was authorized to receive William .:M:. Desmond, of Iowa, to be marshal of the United States and wa~, granted a like quantity of land upon said new line upon consideration for the northern district of Iowa, vice George D. Perkins, suspended. of a surrender and release to the Unit-ed States of the lands previously granted and certified to her upon said original lines, which surrender and release was Reuben B. Pleasants, of Louisiana., to be marshal of the United States duly made by said State and other lands along the new line certified to her in for the eastern district of Louisiana, t·ice J. R. G. Pitkin, suspended. I icu thereof; and . David R. Waters, of Michigan, to be marshal of the United States Whereas the United States is largely interested pecuniarily in Hs right under the law to the benefit of competition in the sale of such of said lands as may not for the western district of Michigan, vice James 1\fonroe, resigned. be covered by lawful claims of pre-emption or homestead settlers, which lands, James 1\f. Liddell, of Mississippi, to be marshal of the United States so subject to public sale, are said to aggregate several millions of dollars in for the northern district of Mississippi, vice Joseph L. ~Iorphi'3, sus­ value: Therefore be it Resolved, That the Secretary of the Interior be, and is hereby, requested to in­ pended. form the Senate what is the exact present status of said lands, both odd and even RobertS. Kelly, of Montana, to be marshal of the United States for sections, as shown by the records of his Department; whether, since the passage the Terri tory of Montana, vice A. C. Botkin, suspended. of the joint resolution of 1862, any of said lands, either odd or even sections, within the so-called common limits, have been reo.ffered at public sale or in any George W. Miller, of Pennsylvania, to bematshalofthe United States mnnner restored to private entry by executh·e crder;. also, what, if any, sales of for the western district of Pennsylvania-, vice James S. Rutan, suspended. said lands have been made at private entry, when and to whom, and whether James H. Freeman, of Tennessee, to be marshal ofthe·UnitedStates patents ha'\"c issued upon any of the same, and when and to whom so issued; also what, if any pre-emption or homestead settlers' claims are now shown to for the western district of Tennessee, vice 1\I. T. Williamson, suspenaed. be in conflict with such private entries, together with the names of such settlers Richard B. Reagan, of Texas, to be marshal of the Unit-ed States for and description of the land claimed, and whether nny of such claims have been the eastern district of Texas, vice James G. Tra-cy, suspended. prosecuted to final proof and payment, and if so for what land and by whom; also w~t, if any, action has been bad or taken in cases of such conflicts or is · John Robinson, of Vermont, to be marshal of the United States for now being taken therein by the General Land Office or Department of the In­ the district of Vermont, vice William W. Henry, resigned. terior; also, whether any of these claims have ever been examined upon the Samuel L. Graham, of Virginia, to be marshal of the United States ground and reported upon by any special agent or agents of the Land Office, and if so to transmit copies of said reports to the Senate; also, whether any of for the western district of Virginia, vice J. G. Watts, suspended. such lands are being stripped of timber, and if so by whom, and what, if any, Thomas J. Hamilton, of the Territory of Washington, to be marshal measures have been taken to stop such waste pending the final disposition of of the United States for t:qe Territory of Washington, vice Jesse W. the question of title. George, suspended. Ur. CONGER. I move that the Senate adjourn. Thomas J. Carr, of Wyoming, to be marshal of the United States for The motion wad agreed to; and (at 4 o'clock and 5 minutes p. m.) the the.Territory of Wyoming, vice Gustave Schnitger, suspended. Senate adjourned to Tuesday, January 5, 1886. DIRECTOR OF THE MINT. James P. Kimball, of Pennsylvania, to be Director of tbe Mint, in EXECUTIVE NOMINATIONS. place of Horatio C. Burchard, removed; and the reasons for such re­ Received this 21st. day of December, 1885. moval are herewith communicated to the Senate, pursuant to the ASSISTANT ATIORNEY·GENERA.L. statute in such case made and provided. · Zach. Montgomery, of California, to be .Assistant .Attorney-Geneml, ASSISTANT TREASURERS OF THE UNITED STATES. trice Joseph K. 1\fcCnmmon, resigned. Samuel H. Brooks, of California, to be assistant treasurer of tha 362 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. DEOEl\IBER 21'

UnitedStatesatSan Francisco, c'al., to succeed Nathan W. Spaulding, Lieut. William E. Reynold , of the District of Columbia, to be a whose term of office has expired. second lieutenant in the revenue service of the United States, in place James T. Healy, of illinois, to be assistant treasurer of the United of Second Lieut. Henry B. Rogers, to be promoted. States at Chicago, ill., to succeed John L. Beveridge, resigned. Lieut. Charles A. Barnes, of the District of Columbia, to be a third Samuel Flower, of Louisiana, to be assistant treasurer of the United lieutenant in the revenue serviceofthe United States, in place of Third States at New Orleans, La., in place of P. Felix Herwig, suspended. Lieut. Samuel Howard, promoted. Lieut. Johnstone H. Quinan, of the Di trict of Columbia, to be a COLLECTORS OF INTERNAL REVEl>.lJE. third lieutenant in the revenue service of the United States, in place of John W. Causey, of Delaware, to be collector of internal revenue Third Lieut. Worth G. Ro , promoted. for the district of Delaware, in place of Beriah Watson, suspended. Lieut. Byron L. Reed, of the District ot Columbia, to be a third lieu­ Renssalaer Stone, of Illinois, to be collector of internal revenue for tenant in the revenue service of the United States, in place of Third the first district of lllinois, in place of Joel D. Harvey, suspended. Lieut. C. C. Fengar, promoted. George A. Wilson, of Illinois, to be collector of internal revenue for Lieut. Kirtland W. Perry, of New York, to be a third lieutenant in the fifth district of lllinois, in place of Howard Knowles, suspended. the revenue service of the United States, in place of Third Lieut. George Thomas Hanlon, of Indiana, to be collector of internal revenue for A. Cook, promoted. the . eventh district of Indiana, in place of William W. Carter, resigned. John 0. Henderson, of Indiana, to be collecter of internal revenue ASSISTaNT EXGINEERS IN REVEXUE SERVICE. fort he eleventh district of Indiana, in place of Thomas U. Kirkpatrick, suspended. Engineer Charles W. Beck-with, of Connecticut, to be a first assistant engineer in the revenue ervice of the United Sta.tes, to fill a. vacancy. William C. Thompson, of Iowa, to be collector of internal revenue Engineer Oliver P. Remick, of .Maine, be a first assi tant engineer for the second district of Iowa, in place of John W. Green, suspended. to Byron Web ter, of Iowa,, to be collector of internal revenue for the in the revenue service of the United States, in place of First Assistant Engineer W. H. Warren, whose resignation has been accepted. third. district of Iowa, in place of James E. Simpson, suspended. Engineer Charles F. Coffin, of Maryland, to a first assistant engi­ Nelson F. Acers, of Kansas, to be collector of internal revenue for be the district of Kansas, in place of John C. Carpenter, suspended. neer in the revenue service of the United States, in place of First As­ sistant Engineer Alexander L. Churchill, promoted. Attilla Cox, of Kentucky, to be collector ofinternnl revenue for the _ Engineer David McC. French, of Virginia, to be a first assistant en· :fifth district of Kentucky, in place of Lewis Buckner, suspended. gineer in the revenue service of the United States, to fill a vaca.ncy. George H. Davison, of Kentucky, to be collector of internal revenue Engineer Herbert W. Spear, of Massachusetts, to be a second assist­ for the sixth district of Kentucky, in place of John W. Finnell, re­ ant engineer in the revenae service of the United States, in place of signed. Second Assistant Engineer David McC. French, to be promoted. . Eben F. Pillsbury, of Massachusetts, to be collector of internal rev­ Engineer Harry L. Boyd, of Maryland, to be a second assistant en­ enue for the third district of 1\iassachusetts, in place of Charles W. gineer in the revenue service of the United States, in place of Second Slack, deceased. Assistant Engineer Charles F. Coffin, to be promoted. A'lolph Bierman, of 1\Iinnesota, to be collector of internal revenue Engineer Philip Littig, of Maryland, to be a second assistant engi­ for the district of Minnesota, in place of William Brickel, suspended. neer in the revenue service of the United States, in place of Second Robert W. Banks, of Mississippi, to be collector of internal revenue As8istant Engineer James T. Keleher, who has been promoted. for the district of Mississippi, in place of James Hill, suspended. Engineer Robert B. Higgins, of Maryl~ud, to be a second assistant Charles E. Ha brook, of Missouri, to be collector of internal revenue engineer in the revenue service of the United States, in pla.ce of Sec­ for the sixth district of .Missouri, in place of Philip Doppler, suspended. ond Assistant Engineer Oliver P. Remick, to be promoted. Calvin Page, of New Hampshire, to be collector of internal revenue Engineer Wilmer Church, of New York, to be a second· assistant en­ for the district of New Hampshire, in place of Henry l'ri. Putney, sus­ gineer in the revenue service of the United States, in place of Second pended. Assistant Engineer Thomas T. Hall. Thomas 1\I. Ferrell, of New Jersey, to be collector of internal revenue Engineer Richard W. Champlain, of Pennsylvania, to be asecond as­ for the first district of New Jersey, in place of William P. Tatem, sus­ sistant engineer in the revenue service of the United ,States, in place pended. of Second Assistant Engineer Charles W. Beckwith, to be promoted. Matthew H. Vanderveer, of New Jersey, to be collector of internal revenue for t.he third district of New Jersey, in place of Culver Barca- COLLECTORS OF C STOMS. low, suspended. · Archibald Skillman, of Nevada, to be collector of internal revenue Willis G. Clark, of Alabama, to be collector of customs for the dis­ for th.e district of Nevada, in place of Frederick C. Lord, suspended. trict of Mobile, in the State of Alabama., to succeed Joseph W. Burke, Christian J. Knecht, of Ohio, to be collector of internal revenue for resigned. the sixth district of Ohio, in place of George P. Dnnh:lJll, suspended. John E. Grady, of Florida, to be collector of customs for the district J olm H. Farley, of Ohio, to be collector of internal revenue for the of Apalachicola, in the State of Florida, in place of Seth 1\I. Sawyer, eighteenth district of Ohio, in the place of Worthy S. Streator, sus­ suspended. pended. John J. McGuire, of Florida., to be collector of customs for the dis­ John Whiteaker, of Oregon, to be collector of internal revenue for trict of Pensacola, in the State of Florida, in place of John M. Tarble, the district of Oregon, in place of John C. Cartwright, suspended. suspended. . John T. UcGonigle, of Pennsylvania, to be collector of internal reve­ Anthony F. Seeberger, of Illinois, to be collector of customs for the nue for the ninth district of Pennsylvania, in place of Andrew J. Kauff­ district of Chicago, in the State of illinois, iu place of Jesse Spalding, man, suspended. suspended. Charles B. Staples, of Pennsylvania, to be collector of internal reve­ William T. Carrington, of Louisiana, to be collector of customs for nue for the twelfth district of Pennsylva,nia, in place of Edward H. the district of Teche, in the State of Louisiana, in place of James R. Chase, suspended. . Jolly, suspended. Frank Schlaudecker, of Pennsylvania, to be collector of internal rev­ William L. Bancroft, of Michigan, to be collector of customs for the enue for the nineteenth district of Pennsylvania, in place of-Jacob F. district of Huron, in the State of Michigan, in place of William Hart­ Walther, suspended. suff, suspended. Samuel B. Cooper, of Texn.s, to be collector of internal revenue for Dudley 0. Watson, of 1\Iichigan, to be collector of customs for the the first district of Texas, in place of William H. Sinclair, suspended. district of Michigan, in the State of Michigan, in place of J?avid Mc­ George 1\I. Helms, of Virginia, to be collector of internal revenue for Laughlin, suspended. the fourth district of Virginia, in place of John B. Raulston, suspended. Adelard Guernon, of Minnesota, to be collector of customs for the Hambleton Sheppard, of Virginia, to be collector of internal revenue district of .Minnesota, in the State of Uinnesota, in place of J o eph for the sixth district of Virginiar in place of William E. Craig, sus- Bookwalter, suspended. pended. · Horace B. .Moore, of Minnesota, to be collector of customs for the dis­ John T. McGraw, of West Virginia, to be collector of internal reve­ trict of Duluth, in the State of Uinnesota, in place ofV pasian Smith, nue for the district ofWestVll'ginia, in place of Samuel P. McCormick, suspended. suspended. Theophilus l\1. Favre, of Mississippi, to be collector of customs for LIEUTENANTS IN REVENUE SERVICE. the district of Pearl River, in the State of Mississippi, in place of Will­ iam G. Henderson, suspended. Lieut. Henry B. Rogers, of Michigan, to be a first lieutenant in the Oliver Kelly, of New Jersey, to be collector of customs for the dis­ revenue service of the United States, to fill a vacancy. trict of Perth Amboy, in the State of New J ersey, in place of Mil tou A. Lieut. John W. Howison, of Pennsylvania, to be a first lieutenant in Edgar, suspended. the revenue service of the United States, to fill a vaca,ncy. James Tilton, of New Jersey, to be collector of customs for 'the dis­ Lieut. Daniel P. Foley, of the District of Columbia, to be a second trict of Great Egg Harbor, in the State of New J ersey, in place of John lieutenant in the revenue service of the United States, in place of Sec­ Price, suspended. ond Lieut. .John W. Howison, to be promoted. Clother H. Vaughn, of New York, to be collector of customs for the 1885. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 363 district of Sag Harbor, in the State of New York, in place of William David H. Hall, Eureka, Nev., to be register of the Ia.nd"office at Eu­ Lowen, suspenrled. n .ka, Nev., vice Fred. C. Hinckley, who~e term of office has expired. William F. Howland, of North Carolina, to be collector of customs RECEIVERS OF PUBLIC 1\IONEYS. for the district of Beaufort, in the State of North Carolina, in place of Alexander C. Davis, suspended. · H. W. Hutchins, of Eureka, Cal., to be receiver of public money at John A. Richardson, of North Carolina, to be collector of customs Humboldt, Cal., vice John K. Dollison, who was commissioned during for the district of Pamlico, in the State of North Carolina, in place of the recess of the Senate but declined the appointment. Thomas A. Henry, suspended. F. I!'L Ziebach, ofYankton, Dak., to be receiver of public moneys at John Flana.,aan, of Oregon, to be collector of customs for the Southern Yankton, Dak., 't:ice Joseph G. Chandler, resigned. district of Oregon, in the State of Oregon, to succeed Chandler B. Wat- William 0. Mille, ofEureka, Nev., to be receiver of public moneys at son, resigned. . Eureka, Nev., vice Harvey Carpenter, resigned. John Hobspn, of Oregon, to be collector of customs for the district of Oregon, in the State of Oregon, to succeed John D. Merryman, whose INDIAN INSPECTOR. term of office has expired. Morris A. Thomas, of Baltimore, Md., who was designated during William J. McKinnie, of Ohio, to be collector of customs forthe_dis­ the recess of the Senate, to be an Indian inspector, vice Henry Ward, trict of Cuyahoga, in the State of Ohio, to succeed George W. Howe, suspended. · resjgned. Th'"DI.AN AGENTS. Henry W. Richardson, of South Carolina, to be collector of customs for the district of Beaufort~ in the State of South Carolina, in place of S. S. Patterson, of Newton, Iowa, to be agent for the Indians of the George Holmes, suspended. Navajo agency in New Mexico, vice James H. Bowman, resigned. B. Huger Ward, of South Carolina, to be collector of customs for the Robert L. Leatherwood, of Charleston, N. C., to be agent for the district of Georgetown, in the State of South Carolina, in place of Indians of the Eastern Cherokee Indians in North Carolina, vice Julius Henry F. Heriot, suspended. L. Holmes, resigned. JosephJ. Cocke, of Texas, to be collector of customs for the district of Brazos de Santiago, in the State of Texas, in place of James 0. FIRST ASSISTANT POSTMASTER-GENERAL. Luby, suspended. Adlai E. Stevenson, of illinois, to be First Assistant Postmaster-Gen­ Joseph :Magoffin, of Texas, to be collector of customs for the district eral, vice Malcolm Hay, ~esigned. of Paso del Norte, in the State of Texas, in place of William A. Say­ POSTMASTERS. lor, suspended. Otto L. Threlkeld, of Texas, to be collector of customs for the dis­ Thomas W. Newton, to be postmaster at Little Rock, in the county trict of Saluria, in the State of Texas, in place of Francis A. Vaugh.1.n, of Pulaski and State of Arkansas, in the place of Rollin A. Edgerton, suspended. _ whose commission expired December 20, 1885. Baker P. Lee, of Virginia, to be collector of customs for the district Isaac W. Horton, to be postmaster at Bethel, in the county of Fail­ of Yorktown, in the State of Virginia, in place of Henry de B. Clay, field and State of Connecticut, in the place of Amos Woodman, re­ suspended. signed. George G. Savage, of Virginia, to be collector of customs for the dis­ William H. Miller, to be postmaster at MerideJ?., in the county of trict of Cherrystone, in the State Qf Virginia, in place of George Foy, New Haven and State of Connecticut, in the place of Erwin D. Hall, suspended. resigned. Herbert Foote Beecher, of the Territory of Washington, to be col­ Joseph S. Williams, to be postmaster at Mystic Bridge, in the county lector of customs for the district of Pnget Sound, in the State of Oregqn of New London and State of Connecticut, in the place of John A. Rath­ and the Territory of Washington, to succeed Albert W. Bash, whose bun, whose commission expired December 20, 1885. term of office has expired. William P. Baird, to be postmaster at Mount Carroll, in the county Conrad Krez, of Wisconsin, to be collector of customs for the district of Carroll and State of Illinois, in the place of Richard J. Thompkins, of Milwaukee, in the State of Wisconsin, in place of Ahira W. Hall, deceased. suspended. Willis S. Grimes, to be postmaster at Batavia, in the county of Kane SURVEYORS OF CUSTOMS. and State of Illinois, in the place of Edward S. Smith, whose commis­ sion expired December 15, 1885. Daniel 0. Barr, of Pennsylvania, to be surveyor of customs in the Edwin S. Hawley, to be postmaster at Hyde Park, in the county of district of Pittsburgh, in the State of Pennsylvania, to succeed John Cook and State of Illinois, in the place of Goodrich Q. Dow, whose F. Dravo, whose term of office has expired. commission expired DecemBer 15, 1885. August M. Kuhn, of Indiana, to be surveyor of customs for the port Charles Kelley, to be postmaster at Effingham, in the county of Ef­ of Indianapolis, in the State of Indiana, to succeed John R. L~nard, fingham and State of illinois, in the place of Samuel N. Scott, whose whose term of office has expired. commission expired December 15, 1885. Richard D. Lancaster, of Missouri, to be surveyor of customs for the William A. :M:eha.n, to he postmaster at I!fason City, in the county of port of Saint Louis, in the State of Missouri, in place of Charles M. Mason and State of illinois, in the place of Wells Corey, whose com­ Whitney, suspended. mission expired· December 20, 1885. James Burns, of Missouri, to be surveyor of customs for the port of \1Villiam Osman, to be postmaster at Ottawa, in the county of La. Kansas City, in the State of :Missouri, in place of Robert C. Crowell, Salle and State of Illinois, in the place of William E. Bowman, whose suspended. commission expired December 20, 1885. George Frank Bayles, of New York, to be surveyor of customs for the Thomas Philpot, to be postmaster a.t Macomb, in the county of Mc­ port of Port Jefferson, in the State of New York, to succeed Sidney H. Donough and State of Illinois, in the place of J. B. Venard, whose Hitch, whose term of office has expired. commission expired December 20, 1885. Thomas F. Donvan; of New York, to be surveyor of customs for the Henry Sharer, to be postmaster a.t Mount Morris, in the county of port of Patchogue, in the State of New York, in place of Edward T. Ogle and State of Illinois, in the place of Oliver H. Swingley, deceased. Moore, suspended. Samuel S. Kemp, to be postmaster at Maywood, in the county of Frank L. H. Phillips, of New York, to be surveyor of customs for the Cook and State of Illinois, in the place of Orren H. Benson, whose com­ port of Greenport, in the Stn.te of New York, to succeed William Z. mission expired December 15, 1885. King, resigned. Sidney B. Stout, to be postmaster at Vandalia, in the county of Fay­ J o eph S. Gillespie, of Tennessee, to be surveyor of customs for the ette and State of Illinois, in the place of HectorS. Humphrey, whose port of Chattanooga, in the State of Tennessee, to succeed Joseph L. commission expired December 15, 1885. Gaston, whose term of office has expired. John Warner, to be postmasteratPeoria, in theconntyofPeoriaand George A. Hessen, of Tennessee, to be surveyor of customs for the State of lllinois, in place of ·washington Cockle, suspended under the port of ,Memphis, in the State of Tennessee, in place ofT. F. Cassels, provisions of section 1768 of the Revised Statutes of the United States. suspended. . . George E. Young; to be postmaster at Amboy, in the county of Lee Leon Trousdale, of Tennessee, to be surveyor of customs for the port and State of Illinois, in the place of Henry E. Badger, whose com.m.i.s­ of Nashville, in the State of Tennessee, in place of James 1\I. Kerche­ sion expired December 20,1885. val, suspended. Oscar B. Harriman, to be postmaster at Hampton, in the county of REGISTERS OF LAND OFFICES. Franklin and State of Iowa, in the place of Stephen M. Jones, whose commission expired December 20, 1885. . James R. De Remer, of Pueblo, Colo., who was commissioned during A. B. Keith, to be postmaster at Denison, in the county of Crawford the recess of the Senate, to be register of the land office at Leadville, and State of Iowa, in the place pf J. Fred Meyers, whose coiD.J:Illssion ex­ Colo., '!:ice Septimus J. Hanna, whose term of office has expired. pired December 16, 1885. Thomas B. Davis, of Lincoln, Nebr., to be register of the land office William T. Smith, to be postmaster at Oscaloosa, in the county of at Lincoln, Nebr., vice Charles W. Pierce, whose term of office has ex­ 1t1ahaska and State of Iowa, in the place of Charles Leighton, whose pired. commission expired December 16, 1885. 364 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. DECEMBER 21'

Joseph N."Bcll, to be postmaster at Shelbyville, in the county of HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Shelby and State of Kentucky, in the place of Camden W. Ballard, whose commission expired December 28, 1885. MoNDAY, December 21, 1885. (j William S. Hagar, to be postmaster at Richmond, in the_ county of Saocradahoc and State of Maine, in the place of Abner C. Spauldmg, whose The House met at 12 o'clock, m. Prayer by the ChaplaiD, Rev. W. H. commission expired December 16, 1885. · 1\IILBUB.N, D. D. . . . Henry H. Gilpin, to be postmaster at Eikton, in the county of Cecil The Journal of Saturday's proceedings was read and approved. and State of .Maryland, in the place of Palmer C. Strickland, whose MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. commission expired December 16, 1885. A messacre from the Senate was received by Ur. SYMPSON, one of its William G. Goldsmith, to ba p::>3tmaster at Andover, in the county clerks, ann~uncing the adoption of joint rules of the Senate and House of Essex and State of Mas.'1achusetts, in the place of William Marland, of Representatives; in which concurrence was requested. whose commission expiretl Dece:ubcr 20, 1883. Samuel I [enderson, to be postmaster at .Mount .Ayr, in the ~ounty of TEST3 OF IRON AND STEEL, ETC. Rinmyold and State of Iow~1, in the piace of W. A. Reger, res1gned. The SPEAKER. In compliance with the ·statutes the Chair will Ti~otl1y Leary, to be postmaster at \Yaltham, in the county of Mid­ lay before the House th~ tollowing concuiTent resolution for printing. dlesex and State of Massacbusettf-l, in the place of Samuel 0. Upham, The Clerk read as tollows: · · whose commi'1sion expired December 20, 1885. Is TilE SE~ATE O F THE UNITED STATES, Decem!Jer 18, 1885. Reuben Noble, to be postmaster at ·westfield, in the county of Hamp­ r-.esolred by Ute Senate (the Hou.se of Repr~entati'!es conc~;tJ·ring), That the reports den and State of .Massachusetts, in the place of Merritt VanDeusen, of tes:s of iron and steel and other matenals for mdustnal purposes made at the Watertown arsenal and tra.nsmitted to the Senate by the Secretary, of War on resigned. . the 3d of Decernbe1· 1881 and lith of D ecember, 18'35, be printed, and that 3,500 Isaac W. Bush, to be postmaster a.t Howell, in the county of Living­ additional copies or'ea~ll· r eport be printed; of which 1,000 copies of each repor~ ston and State of Michigan, in the place of Charles E. Beurman, whose shall be for the u se of the SenR.t-c, 2,000 copies for the use of the House of Repre­ sent:ltivcs, and 500 copies for the use of tl1e 'Var Department. commission expired December 15, 1885. Attest.: William J . Ed wards, to be postmaster n.t Niles, in the_county of Ber­ ANSON G. McCOOK, Seeretary. rien and State of Michigan, in the place of E. J. Bonme, whose com- The resolution was referred to the Committee on P1·inting, and or­ mission expired December 20, 1885. . dered. to be printed. P.ttrick II. McGarry, to be postmaster at St-anton, m t~e county of Montca.lm and State of Michigan, in the place of C. C. Miller, whose :C!\"'ROLLED JOL'\T I!.ESOLUTIO:N SIGNED. coruruission expired December 20, 1883. . Mr. NEECE from the Committee on Enrolled Bills, reported that Fred.. A. Stebbins, to be postm3.Sterat Uonnt Pleasant, m the county they had examined and found truly enrolled a joint resolution (II. R-es. of Isabella and State of .Michigan, in the place of Charles E. West- 1) authorizin