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Today at 2:52 AM   #1

It has begun.

 terribleIVAN Hall of Fame Time for Roger Federer to walk away with his dignity intact Swiss great may be raging against the dying of the light but his retirement has been announced in all but name www.telegraph.co.uk

Oliver Brown Chief Sports Writer 16 August 2021 • 6:07pm

It passed almost unnoticed, but within four days of Roger Federer toasting his 40th birthday this month, Pete Sampras turned 50. Seldom can two men, whose records invite constant parallels, have displayed such divergent philosophies on life beyond tennis. Even as Federer releases a video to confirm his third knee surgery in 18 months, he still cannot bring himself to talk openly of retirement. His predecessor was hewn from less sentimental stock. Sampras won the 2002 US Open, beating Andre Agassi in four sets for his 14th major title, and never played a professional match again....

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Today at 2:53 AM   #2

Why to retire if he can be a top10 player with good knee?

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Today at 2:56 AM   #3

D dumb‐person said:  Why to retire if he can be a top10 player with good knee? daphne Hall of Fame He can be Top 10 only with the COVID19 rating measures in place. Otherwise, he is DONE!

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Today at 3:15 AM   #4 It is odd to think Federer will somehow lose his dignity. He has already experienced some very undignified moments on court and yet each time he comes back and shows his face and is gracious. I don't think he will have any problems showing his face to the tennis world once he has retired, even if he retires aged 45 and has a 0‐14 season. The guy sees the bigger picture and that tennis is just a sport he got the privilege to play and make his name in. Devtennis01 Legend hi

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Today at 3:15 AM   #5 P if he leaves now...his last set that he played would be 6‐0 on Wimbledon CC....is that how you want Rog to be remembered? Report  Like  Quote  Reply

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Today at 3:20 AM   #6

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Today at 3:20 AM   #7

dumb‐person said: 

 Why to retire if he can be a top10 player with good knee? Red Rick Bionic Poster Because he doesn't have a good knee

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Today at 3:43 AM   #8

I do wonder why he's bothering to continue at this point. Any other player would retire in his position. 40 years old, no realistic chance of winning any big titles from here on out. He must be thinking of his slam wins in 2017/18 and W19 and AO20 and thinking to himself "if I can avoid Djokovic and be injury free, I can win another 3 slams easily".

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Today at 4:03 AM   #9

Jokervich said: 

 I do wonder why he's bothering to continue at this point. Any other player would retire in his position. 40 years old, no realistic chance of winning any big titles from here on out. He must be thinking of his slam wins in 2017/18 and W19 and AO20 and thinking to himself "if I can terribleIVAN avoid Djokovic and be injury free, I can win another 3 slams easily". Hall of Fame

He's going after Connors' 1274 wins.

The only record trully safe from Ultron.

21 more miserable wins...

....that he'll never get. Damn !

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Today at 4:07 AM   #10

terribleIVAN said: 

It has begun. clayqueen Talk Tennis Guru

Time for Roger Federer to walk away with his dignity intact Swiss great may be raging against the dying of the light but his retirement has been announced in all but name Click to expand... www.telegraph.co.uk Sampras retired because he thought his number of slams could never be matched let alone surpassed. Little did he know that not only would one player surpass it by a mile, but 3 players. I don't think Sampras had the same obligations to his sponsors like the Big 3 have. For all we know, Roger has committed to play until he's aged 50, who knows. I can't think of any other reason why he would still want to comeback from surgery having reached the age of 40.

Rafa: “I don’t care if I’m the favourite,” he said. “I care about feeling well and playing well. The only favourite that matters is the one who has the cup at home in two weeks’ time.”

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Today at 4:13 AM   #11

terribleIVAN said: 

It has begun. Raul_SJ G.O.A.T. Time for Roger Federer to walk away with his dignity intact Swiss great may be raging against the dying of the light but his retirement has been announced in all but name www.telegraph.co.uk

Finally a journalist that is starting to do his job. Next he will need to look into why Fed is clinging on.

clayqueen said: 

For all we know, Roger has committed to play until he's aged 50, who knows. I can't think of any other reason why he would still want to comeback from surgery having reached the age of 40.

That would be pathetic. But doubtful there is such a clause. Imagine having to play because Uniqlo and Rolex own you... More likely, there is an incentive to remain an active ATP player and he wants more $$$.

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Today at 4:13 AM   #12

Not people thinking they know better than Roger Federer when HE needs to retire. I get it's a hot topic for the media to latch on, but a necessary discussion for the public it is not.

Telling Federer to retire is just disregarding his personal motivation and reasoning for what he wants to do with his life. And The Fedfather Hall of Fame bringing dignity into this? The journalist should worry about his own, with an article like this.

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Today at 4:13 AM   #13

terribleIVAN said: 

He's going after Connors' 1274 wins. clayqueen .﴿Talk Tennis Guru 21 more miserable wins...﴾that he'll never get

Damn !

Connors's 1274 match wins is just a statistic he doesn't go up in anyone's estimation because of it. Breaking Connor's match win record is not going to make Federer any more highly regarded than he already is. It doesn't matter what the B3 achieve from now on, they will all be the greatest in the eyes of their fans. The establishment will continue to put Federer on a pedestal for nebulous reasons that no one can quantify. Last edited: Today at 4:20 AM

Rafa: “I don’t care if I’m the favourite,” he said. “I care about feeling well and playing well. The only favourite that matters is the one who has the cup at home in two weeks’ time.”

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Today at 4:17 AM   #14

Raul_SJ said: 

Finally a journalist that is starting to do his job. Next he will need to look into why Fed is clinging on. clayqueen Talk Tennis Guru

By the law of diminishing returns, the marginal satisfaction that Federer would get from his already bloated coffers would diminish with every dollar he earns now. He can't be playing because he needs the money. Surely not.

Rafa: “I don’t care if I’m the favourite,” he said. “I care about feeling well and playing well. The only favourite that matters is the one who has the cup at home in two weeks’ time.”

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Today at 4:27 AM   #15

terribleIVAN said: 

He's going after Connors' 1274 wins. Jokervich The only record trully safe from Ultron. Hall of Fame

21 more miserable wins...

....that he'll never get. Click to expand...

Well I'm sure he could get it by entering 2 or 3 easy 250s. Is that really his motivation though? I think he actually thinks he can win more slams and have a comeback like 2017. Quite sad how desperately he's trying to cling on and keep playing.

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Today at 4:28 AM   #16

clayqueen said: 

By the law of diminishing returns, the marginal satisfaction that Federer would get from his already bloated coffers would diminish with Raul_SJ every dollar he earns now. He can't be playing because he needs the money. Surely not. G.O.A.T. Some people are driven by greed. It is certainly one plausible explanation. What else could be the motivation? He is surely done winning majors and he has said that winning majors is the only reason he continues to play.

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daphne Today at 4:56 AM   #17 N I guess this thread is the meeting point for the orgy for ‘Fed fans’ today ‐ ?? Report  Like  Quote  Reply

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Today at 4:59 AM   #18

Jokervich said: 

 Well I'm sure he could get it by entering 2 or 3 easy 250s. Is that really his motivation though? I think he actually thinks he can win more slams and have a comeback like 2017. Quite sad how desperately he's trying to cling on and keep playing. terribleIVAN Hall of Fame Call me insane ,

but when this return from injury‐ bad play‐ re‐injury‐ new surgery ‐ retirement announcement‐ return from retirement‐ new injury soap opera ends by 2023, he might stand just a few matches from that 1274 tally.

This guy is capable of absolutely everything.

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Today at 5:06 AM   #19

Roger GOATerer will return in 2022 and become the first man to win a slam in his 40s, more milestones are ahead of him, once his knees are fixed, he shall be back to full power and Djokovic shall not escape the wrath of the emperor, his mighty self shall smite Novak from the sky with furious anger.....  ﴿ $ Sunny014 Roger Federer alone is 1 Billion+ $ > Djokovic ﴾388 Million $ ﴿ + Nadal ﴾ 411 Million Legend Roger Federer = The Biggest Brand in Tennis and the Most Popular Tennis player of all time. That is why he will remain the GOAT unless he is beaten there.

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Today at 5:08 AM   #20

Just my guess but I think Fed still believes he can win and win big. I don’t think money is driving his decisions at this point.

you can never say never with players like Fed but I really don’t see how he wins a slam again.  ﴿GabeT TTW makes a lot more sense if you assume every post is sarcastic ﴾NatF G.O.A.T. Report  Like  Quote  Reply

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Today at 5:19 AM   #21 N On one leg, he made R4 in FO and QF in Wimb What’s the problem exactly other than you feeling pain because of the adulation he garners when he steps on court ?

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Today at 5:22 AM   #22

With bionic knee he's able to win 2023 CYGS.

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Today at 5:28 AM   #23

pj80 said: 

if he leaves now...his last set that he played would be 6‐0 on Wimbledon CC....is that how you want Rog to be remembered? Thriller Hall of Fame Yes. His grass court career started with a final set bagel. Only fitting that his last grass court match ended with a final set bagel. A padded career bookended by bagels. Perfect.

Federer is 10‐21 in Grand Slams versus Djokovic and Nadal. That is a mere 32% chance when he is in form and up against the very best players, on the biggest stages, on the most important occasions. Just think about that ....

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Today at 5:30 AM   #24

Why do Djoker fans care about whether a player who has zero chance of challenging Novak in future big tournaments retires or not?

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Today at 5:33 AM   #25

ND‐13 said: 

On one leg, he made R4 in FO and QF in Wimb Tennisbg What’s the problem exactly other than you feeling pain because of the adulation he garners when he steps on court ? Professional

Yeah, he was almost with a wooden leg, like pirate.

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Today at 5:35 AM   #26

Dignity went out the window when he paraded down the Centre Court catwalk in his white suit and white and gold man‐bag ensemble.

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Keizer said: 

 Why do Djoker fans care about whether a player who has zero chance of challenging Novak in future big tournaments retires or not? Sunny014 Legend Because Djokvic's daddy and his jealous fanbase feel that fed should have retired in 2013, he has been eating DJokovic's limelight by keeping poor novak under his shadow.....

novak and his fans have inferiority complex

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Today at 5:37 AM   #28

Sunny014 said: 

 Roger GOATerer will return in 2022 and become the first man to win a slam in his 40s, more milestones are ahead of him, once his knees are fixed, he shall be back to full power and Djokovic shall not escape the wrath of the emperor, his mighty self shall smite Novak from the sky Djokovic_is_the_ with furious anger..... best#1 G.O.A.T.

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Today at 5:38 AM   #29 GabeT said: 

 Just my guess but I think Fed still believes he can win and win big. I don’t think money is driving his decisions at this point. Djokovic_is_the_ you can never say never with players like Fed but I really don’t see how he wins a slam again. best#1 G.O.A.T. He’s got no chance but I think he’s a bit delusional like a lot of his fans to be honest!

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Today at 5:38 AM   #30

With Hypo Fed destroying everyone everywhere, Real Fed should consider just relaxing and enjoying retirement.

Hypo Fed just swept the 2008 clay season and straight‐setted Djoker for the 3rd straight time in Australia.

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Today at 5:42 AM   #31

Commentators like Chris Evert have been crying this could be his last major every time. It has become so old like Roger himself. Best thing is to announce retirement date and stick to it..

Winning RG is what Novak wants most in his life. What do you want in your life? nachiket When we talk about the greats of the game, I have never seen a player play defense better than Novak. Some of the balls he gets, how he puts defense to offense is second to none ‐ Boris Becker nolefam Hall of Fame Report  Like  Quote  Reply

Today at 5:43 AM   #32

Sunny014 said: 

Because Djokvic's daddy and his jealous fanbase feel that fed should have retired in 2013, he has been eating DJokovic's limelight by keeping poor novak under his shadow..... nachiket

nolefam novak and his fans have inferiority complex Hall of Fame All of this is true..

The sooner Federer is out the better at this point. And he has been out for past 2 years anyway so no issues.

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Today at 5:44 AM   #33

Spencer Gore said: 

Dignity went out the window when he paraded down the Centre Court catwalk in his white suit and white and gold man‐bag ensemble. smalahove Hall of Fame I'm really curious how a guy who seems conservative in his clothing choices went along with this. Surely that had to be a Nike stunt, because that outfit was really bad, regardless of the time. But I'm still surprised he went along.

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Today at 5:44 AM   #34

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Why do Djoker fans care about whether a player who has zero chance of challenging Novak in future big tournaments retires or not? TearTheRoofOff Legend Because bringing down Fed is the best way to fuel the crackwagon. It's not about the tennis anymore.

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Today at 5:45 AM   #35

nachiket nolefam said: 

 All of this is true.. Sunny014 The sooner Federer is out the better at this point. And he has been out for past 2 years anyway so no issues. Legend

He wont be out. U r so jealous, get a life, don't be a loser. Federer is a billionaire and will decide when he wil retire, not random people like you

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Today at 5:45 AM   #36 A Dignity is all about how others perceive you. Must be really awful living with such insecurity if you think like that. Fed don't give a damn what others think, if he loves the sport why not play until you can't anymore. Plenty of time to retire when you're old and physically broken Aretium Hall of Fame Report  Like  Quote  Reply

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Today at 5:49 AM   #38

Sunny014 said: 

He wont be out. U r so jealous, get a life, don't be a loser. nachiket Federer is a billionaire and will decide when he wil retire, not random people like you nolefam Hall of Fame Decide and let others know. Do a retirement tour. Doesn't matter.

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Today at 5:53 AM   #39

smalahove said: 

I'm really curious how a guy who seems conservative in his clothing choices went along with this. Surely that had to be a Nike stunt, because Keizer that outfit was really bad, regardless of the time. But I'm still surprised he went along. Hall of Fame Report  Like  Quote  Reply

Today at 6:08 AM   #40

D terribleIVAN said:  He's going after Connors' 1274 wins. daphne The only record trully safe from Ultron. Hall of Fame

21 more miserable wins...

....that he'll never get. Click to expand...

Just 3 slams and that's it.

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Today at 6:25 AM   #41

pj80 said: 

 if he leaves now...his last set that he played would be 6‐0 on Wimbledon CC....is that how you want Rog to be remembered? gjm127 Semi‐Pro Sure, his legacy would be tainted forever by the Hurcakz bagel. Everything else he accomplished in his illustrious career: Forgotten.

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Today at 6:32 AM   #42

nachiket nolefam said: 

 Decide and let others know. Do a retirement tour. Doesn't matter. Sunny014 Legend No plans of retirement, he will play forever.

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Today at 6:44 AM   #43

It’s not cheap to be the Federers. They like a nice lifestyle and good clothes, different wardrobes for every season etc, and they have four kids and probably relatives they look after. Let’s say Federer retires at 45 and he and Mirka live into 90s. I am sure they are not going to want to give up the fine things which will only get costlier and costlier. They will want the very best medical care as they age, too. Plus a lot of the money he has earned is spent and invested. It’s a different game to when Sampras was Devtennis01 Legend making money. Tennis stars just didn’t earn in a ten year elite career like they do now. They had more modest tastes. A ranch in the desert, a beach side home, a flat in New York, a nice investment portfolio and first class travel for life was a nice thing to retire on. I don’t think that even will cut it for future three slam champs with a brief stint at No. 1.

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Today at 6:49 AM   #44

smalahove said: 

I'm really curious how a guy who seems conservative in his clothing choices went along with this. Surely that had to be a Nike stunt, because The Fedfather that outfit was really bad, regardless of the time. But I'm still surprised he went along. Hall of Fame Federer has a certain level of eccentricity, for sure. Not sure if he's conservative in his clothing or if he's just not really fashion‐ oriented himself. His style choices for a long time now have probably been set by trusted professionals. Clearly back then they weren't. That ensemble was laughable, but at the time was probably perceived by him ﴾and someone who designed the look﴿ as a cool way to stand out. And, well, stand out he did lol.

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Today at 6:53 AM   #45

You could try the same bud.

Fed fan.  Okay... I like Rafa too? Alcaraz... Lleytonstation Pancho played club tennis. #ABNG G.O.A.T. Report  Like  Quote  Reply

Today at 7:30 AM   #46

ND‐13 said: 

I guess this thread is the meeting point for the orgy for ‘Fed fans’ today ‐ ?? ghostofMecir Hall of Fame The amount of hate in this thread from the usual suspects is quite amazing even though it shouldn’t be.

As of May 4th, 2019, Federer has won a higher % of points vs. Djokovic+Nadal than they have vs. him. https://tt.tennis‐warehouse.com/index.php?threads/at‐age‐37‐federer‐has‐won‐more‐than‐50‐of‐all‐points‐played‐against‐djokovic‐and‐nadal‐in‐ aggregate.642882/

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Today at 7:30 AM   #47

pj80 said: 

if he leaves now...his last set that he played would be 6‐0 on Wimbledon CC....is that how you want Rog to be remembered? RaulRamirez Legend It would be nice to see him play one more Wimbledon, but no, if that is to be his final appearance, I think that the great majority of people will remember Roger for a million things before they remember that bit of trivia.

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Today at 7:40 AM   #48

P RaulRamirez said:  It would be nice to see him play one more Wimbledon, but no, if that is to be his final appearance, I think that the great majority of people will remember Roger for a million things before they remember that bit of trivia. pj80 Hall of Fame Like what? Beating Baggy in AO?

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T Raul_SJ said:  Finally a journalist that is starting to do his job. Next he will need to look into why Fed is clinging on. T007 Professional