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Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 28th Legislature First Session Standing Committee on Alberta’s Economic Future Ministry of Infrastructure Consideration of Main Estimates Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10 a.m. Transcript No. 28-1-10 Legislative Assembly of Alberta The 28th Legislature First Session Standing Committee on Alberta’s Economic Future Amery, Moe, Calgary-East (PC), Chair Fox, Rodney M., Lacombe-Ponoka (W), Deputy Chair Barnes, Drew, Cypress-Medicine Hat (W)* Bhardwaj, Naresh, Edmonton-Ellerslie (PC) Cao, Wayne, Calgary-Fort, (PC) Donovan, Ian, Little Bow (W) Dorward, David C., Edmonton-Gold Bar (PC) Eggen, David, Edmonton-Calder (ND) Hehr, Kent, Calgary-Buffalo (AL) Kang, Darshan S., Calgary-McCall (AL)** Luan, Jason, Calgary-Hawkwood (PC) Mason, Brian, Edmonton-Highlands-Norwood (ND)*** McDonald, Everett, Grande Prairie-Smoky (PC) Olesen, Cathy, Sherwood Park (PC) Pastoor, Bridget Brennan, Lethbridge-East (PC) Quadri, Sohail, Edmonton-Mill Woods (PC) Rogers, George, Leduc-Beaumont (PC) Rowe, Bruce, Olds-Didsbury-Three Hills (W) Sarich, Janice, Edmonton-Decore (PC) Strankman, Rick, Drumheller-Stettler (W) Xiao, David H., Edmonton-McClung (PC) * substitution for Bruce Rowe ** substitution for Kent Hehr *** substitution for David Eggen Also in Attendance Bilous, Deron, Edmonton-Beverly-Clareview (ND) Support Staff W.J. David McNeil Clerk Robert H. Reynolds, QC Law Clerk/Director of Interparliamentary Relations Shannon Dean Senior Parliamentary Counsel/ Director of House Services Philip Massolin Manager of Research Services Stephanie LeBlanc Legal Research Officer Sarah Leonard Legal Research Officer Nancy Zhang Legislative Research Officer Nancy Robert Research Officer Corinne Dacyshyn Committee Clerk Jody Rempel Committee Clerk Karen Sawchuk Committee Clerk Christopher Tyrell Committee Clerk Rhonda Sorensen Manager of Corporate Communications and Broadcast Services Jeanette Dotimas Communications Consultant Tracey Sales Communications Consultant Liz Sim Managing Editor of Alberta Hansard Transcript produced by Alberta Hansard Standing Committee on Alberta’s Economic Future Participant Ministry of Infrastructure Hon. Wayne Drysdale, Minister April 10, 2013 Alberta’s Economic Future EF-107 10 a.m. Wednesday, April 10, 2013 to exceed seven minutes for a two-hour-long meeting. For the 40 Title: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 ef minutes that follow, members of the Official Opposition and the [Mr. Amery in the chair] minister or the member of the Executive Council acting on the minister’s behalf may speak. For the next 14 minutes the members Ministry of Infrastructure of the third party, if any, and the minister or the member of the Consideration of Main Estimates Executive Council acting on the minister’s behalf may speak. For the next 14 minutes the member of the fourth party, if any, and the The Chair: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to minister or the member of the Executive Council acting on the call this meeting to order, and I’d also like to welcome everyone minister’s behalf may speak. For the next 14 minutes private in attendance this morning. The committee has under consider- members of the government caucus and the minister or the ation the estimates of the Ministry of Infrastructure for the fiscal member of the Executive Council acting on the minister’s behalf year ending March 31, 2014. may speak. After that, any member may speak. Just a reminder that the microphones are operated by Hansard. I Members may speak more than once; however, speaking times would like to ask members not to leave their phones or Black- are limited to 10 minutes at any one time. A minister and a Berrys on the desks, and also I’d like to ask the members not to member may combine their time for a total of 14 minutes. Mem- operate their own consoles as it causes technical issues. Also, bers are asked to advise the chair at the beginning of their speech please remove your iPhones. if they plan to combine their time with the minister’s time. Now I’d like to go around the table and ask each and every one Once the specified rotation between caucuses is complete and of us to introduce ourselves. I’d also like to ask the minister to we move to the portion of the meeting where any member may introduce his staff. speak, the speaking times are reduced to five minutes at any one I’ll start. Moe Amery, MLA, Calgary-East, and chair of this time. Once again, a minister and a member may combine their committee. speaking time for a maximum total of 10 minutes, and members are asked to advise the chair at the beginning of their speech if Mr. Fox: Rod Fox, MLA, Lacombe-Ponoka, vice-chair. they wish to combine their time with the minister’s time. Mr. Quadri: Sohail Quadri, Edmonton-Mill Woods. Now, two hours have been scheduled to consider the estimates of the Ministry of Infrastructure. Mr. Bhardwaj: Naresh Bhardwaj, Edmonton-Ellerslie. Committee members, ministers, and other members who are not committee members may participate. Members’ staff and ministry Mr. Bilous: Good morning. Deron Bilous, Edmonton-Beverly- officials may be present, and at the direction of the minister Clareview. officials from the ministry may address the committee. As noted in the Speaker’s memorandum of March 22, I would Mrs. Sarich: Good morning. Janice Sarich, MLA for Edmonton- like to remind all members that during main estimates consider- Decore. ation members have seating priority at all times. Should members Mr. Kang: Good morning, everyone. Darshan Kang, MLA, arrive at a meeting and there are no seats available at the table, Calgary-McCall. any staff seated at the table must relinquish their seat to the member. Mr. Donovan: Good morning, everyone. Ian Donovan, MLA, If debate is exhausted prior to two hours, the ministry’s esti- Little Bow riding. mates are deemed to have been considered for the time allotted in the schedule, and we will adjourn; otherwise, we will adjourn at Mr. McDonald: Good morning. Everett McDonald, Grande noon. Prairie-Smoky. Points of order will be dealt with as they arise, and the clock will continue to run. Mr. Drysdale: Good morning. Wayne Drysdale, Grande Prairie- Any written material provided in response to questions raised Wapiti. I’ll introduce my staff in my opening remarks. during the main estimates should be tabled in the Assembly for the The Chair: Okay. Sure. benefit of all members. Vote on the estimates is deferred until consideration of all Mr. Rogers: George Rogers, Leduc-Beaumont. ministry estimates has concluded and will occur in Committee of Supply on April 22, 2013. Mr. Barnes: Drew Barnes, MLA, Cypress-Medicine Hat, and the Now I would like to invite the Minister of Infrastructure to Wildrose Infrastructure critic. I’m substituting for Bruce Rowe. begin his remarks. Ms Olesen: Cathy Olesen, MLA, Sherwood Park. Mr. Drysdale: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. At the table with me today are Ray Gilmour, Deputy Minister of Infra- Mrs. Sawchuk: Karen Sawchuk, committee clerk. structure, and Arthur Arruda, director of finance. Also here from my department are Diane Dalgleish, assistant deputy minister of The Chair: Thank you, all. capital projects; Brian Fedor, assistant deputy minister of Hon. members, as you know, the Assembly approved amend- properties; Rod Skura, acting assistant deputy minister of policy ments to the standing orders that impact consideration of the main and corporate services; Neill McQuay, chief of strategic partner- estimates. Before we proceed with consideration of the main ships; and Dave Bentley, executive director of realty services. estimates for the Ministry of Infrastructure, I would like to review Budget 2013 is about responsible change. Albertans have placed briefly the standing orders governing the speaking rotation. As provided for in Standing Order 59.01(6), the rotation is as their trust in our government to manage in good times and in challenging times and to make tough but thoughtful decisions. follows. The minister or the member of the Executive Council acting on the minister’s behalf may make opening comments not Budget 2013 is our plan for responsible change that saves for the future, holds the line on spending, and keeps our taxes the lowest EF-108 Alberta’s Economic Future April 10, 2013 in Canada. While the decisions we make are not always easy, I’m building new facilities and expanding and modernizing existing confident we’ve made the right decisions in the right place at the ones to meet Albertans’ needs for today and for tomorrow. For right time for Albertans. example, we’re working with our Education colleagues, partners, I’d like to take a few minutes to tell you this morning how my and communities across Alberta to create more than 15,500 new department, Alberta Infrastructure, is providing much-needed student spaces. infrastructure to Albertans. Alberta Infrastructure works with every ministry in government. In Budget 2013 about $1.3 billion The Chair: You have one minute left, Minister. is allocated to Alberta Infrastructure, a decrease of $55.6 million, Mr. Drysdale: Okay. I’m pleased to tell this committee and all or 4 per cent, from Budget 2012. Albertans that we currently have 44 school projects under On the operations side $507 million is allocated, which is a construction. You can see these projects in communities like decrease of about $10 million, or about 1.8 per cent, from the ’12- Airdrie, Brooks, and Lac La Biche, and by September ’14 you’ll 13 forecast. The 2013-14 operational budget includes day-to-day see children learning in these new classrooms. operations of about 1,600 government-owned buildings; leases; A year ago Albertans elected us to keep building Alberta and to the operation of Swan Hills Treatment Centre; and program do so responsibly. Budget 2013 balances the infrastructure needs support for health capital projects, realty services, capital con- of the province with our fiscal reality even if it means finding new struction, and property management.