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statute, as above, on this point, Senate bill 5809, which I urgently Resolved, That the Committee on Privileges and Elections prepare the : bUls necessary to more strictly control corruption, fraud, and machine commend to the attention of the Senate, not only the Democrats politics in the nomination and election of the officers of the United but the Republicans as well, because it is equally important to States, and to enable the people to have authoritative knowledge with honest Republicans as to honest Democrats that a majority of regard to the claims of c~ndidates. the Republicans should be permitted to nominate candjdates Mr. SMOOT. I understand the Semitor has offered that reso­ acceptable to a majority of their party members, as it is to the lution and has asked that it be referred to the Committee on. Democrats to have the right to nominate candidates acceptable Privileges and Elections. to a majority of their members. Mr. OWEN. I ask its reference to the Committee on Priv­ I remind the Senate that the preferential ballot was adopted ileges arid "Elections. by both branches of Congress in the Federal reserve act, sec­ The PRESIDING OFFICER. If there is no objection the tion 4, for the selection of the directors of the 12 Federal reserve resolution will be referred to the Committee on Privileges and - banks, and . this system is perfectly well understood by the Elections. · country. .Mr. WILLIAl'tiS. I move that the Senate adjourn. CORRUPT PRACTICES. The motion was agreed to, and (at 5 o'clock and 25 minutes · Fourth. I have also had drawn in like manner Senate bill p. m.) the Senate adjourned until Monday, June 22, 1914, at 12· 5864, to define corrupt practices in connection with campaigns o'clock meridian. for the nomination or election of Senators and Congressmen, and to provide punishment therefor. I believe that every Senator will agree. whether he be Democrat or Re­ HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. publican or Progressive, in the importance of having the nomi­ SATURDAY, June £0, 1914. nations and elections of the Congressmen and Senators free from corrupt practices. · The House met at 12 o'clock noon. These and other steps are obviously necessary to carry out The Chaplain, Rev. Henry N. Couden, D. D., offered the fol­ the pledge of the Democratic national platform at Baltimore, in lowing prayer : which · the Democratic Party offered itself to the country as 0 Thou great Father soul, above all, through all, in us all· " an agency tht·ough which the complete overthrow and ea:tirpa­ make dominant Thy spirit within us, that we may climb th~ tion of corruption, fraud, and rnachine t•ttle in A.rnerican politics mount of transfiguration for the moment and behold with can be effected." · wondering eyes the glorified Christ, the finished product, the PRESIDJ!lNTUL PRIMARY. paragon of human perfection, that we may descend into the I think we should provide for the nomination of candidates valley with re~ewed faith and confidence, working the works· for the Presidency and the Vice Presidency by the preferential. of righteousness with eager hearts and willing hands, looking primary ballot, and that pL·oper statutes should be drawn and forward to that perfection for which_ we all long, which, in the dispensation of Thy providence, waits on the faithful· in enacted covering this point along the line recommended by the Christ the Lord. Amen. ' · President in his annual message last December. The Journal of the proceedings of yesterday was read and The Democratic platform upon this point declared: approved. The movement toward more popular government should be promoted through legislation in each State which will permit the expression of CLERK PRO TEMPORE. the electors for national candidates at presidential primaries. The SPEAKER laid before the House the following communi- In order to have uniformity in the 48 States, Congress should cation: · lay down a few fundamental rules, which would be a minimum HOUSE OF REPRESE::oe severe condemnation for vio­ ORDER OF BUSINESS. lating these vital promises so intimately affecting integrity of Mr. POU. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent for the government. present consideration of the special order which I ask the Clerk I submit, therefore, the following resolution and ask that it , to report · be referred to the Committee on Privileges and Elections: The SPEAKER. The Clerk will report it. Senate resolution 399. The Clerk read as foiJows : · Whereas the party now in power appealed to the American people in Ordered, That on Tuesday, .June 23, 1914, the House stand in recess. 1912 upon the following statement: fl'Om 5 o'clock until 8 o'clock p. m. ; that the House shall continue in " The Democratic Party offers itself to the country as an agency session from 8 p. m. until not later than 11 p. m. During such ses<>ion through which the complete overthrow and extirpation of corrup­ it shall be in order to consider in the House, as in · Committee of the tion, fraud, and machine rule in American politics can be etrected"; Whole, bills on .the Private Calendar to which there is no objection. and The consideration of said calendar snail begin with No. 244 thereon, Whereas it is the sincere desh·e of all patriotic men of every party to continuing to the end, after which other bflls on said calendar may terminate corruption in government: Thetefore be it likewise be considered by unanimous corlsent. 1914. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOVSE. 10791

The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the present considera­ The report and statement are as follows: tion of this order? CONFERENCE REPORT (NO. S4Ci). - Mr_. :MANN. I object. . . · Mr. FITZGERALD. I expect to ask the House to s1t mghts The committee of conference on the disagreeing votes of the until the sundry civil bill is disposed of. Next week is the two Houses on the amendments of the House to the bill ( S. 661) last week of the fiscal year, and I shall object to any request for for the relief of the widow of Thomas B. McClintic, deceased. .any other order. having met, after full and free conference have agreed to rec­ The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Illinois objects, and the ommend and do recommend to their respective Houses as gentleman- from New York gives notice that he wishes the House follows: to sit at night until t11e sundry civil bill is finished. That the House recede from its amendments to the said bill. INVALID PENSIONS. EDwo. W. Pou, LUTHER W. l\10TT, Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. Speaker; I desire to call up the confer­ Manage1·s on the part of the House. ence report on the- bill (H. R. 12045) granting pensions ~n~ N. P. BRYAN, increase of pensions to certain soldiers and sailors of t~e 01vtl THOMAS S. 1\!ABTIN, ,War &nd certain widows and dependent children of soldiers and CoE I. ORA WFORD, sailors of said war. Managel"s on the part of the Sen,ate. Mr. AIANN. I desire to reserve a point of order, and to ask the gentleman if there is a statement. STATE.MENT. 1\lr. RUSSELL. There is no statement. It has not been cus- The House of Representati>es receded from its amendments tomary-- .. to pay this widow $2,880 for salary and allowances for one year, Mr. l\LANN. Then I make the point of order that 1t 1s not in and agreed to the bill as passed by the Senate allowing the order to call it up. claimant salary and allowances for two years, or $5,760. The SPEAKER. What is the point of order based on? EDWD. W. Pou. Mr. -MANN. There is no statement with the conference report. LUTHER W. MOTT. ~he rule requires that a conference report and statement of the Hoiz·~ conferees shall be printed in the REcoRD. 1\Ir. POU. 1\fr. Speaker, I move that the House agree to the The SPEAKliill. There is no question in the world about conference report. - that. The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the conference Mr. RUSSELL. It has not been customary for a long time to •report. file statements with the conference report on these pension The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by Mr. bills. The clerk of tbe committee has been making up th~se l\IANN) there were-ayes 58, noes 11. reports, and he has not made up any statements to go w1th So the conference report was agreed to. them. REVENUE CUTTERS. The SPEAKER Nevertheless, it is tho rule that a statement must be printed. 1\Ir. ADAl\ISON. Mr. Speaker, I call up the conference report Mr. 1\IANN. I have several times called attention to the fact on the bill S. 4377, the revenue-cutter bill, and I ask unanimous that there were no statements with these conference reports. consent that the statement may be read in lieu of the report. Mr. RUSSELL. I withtlraw the report. The SPEAKER. The gentleman calls up the conference report on the bill S. 4377, and asks unanimous consent that the state­ BRIG. GEN . CLINTON D. M'DOUGALL. ment be read in lieu of the report. Is there objection? l\Ir. GOULDEN. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to ad­ There was no objection. dress the House for two minutes to pay a brief tribute to a The Clerk read the statement. former Member of this House, a distinguished soldier of the The report and statement are as follows: Republic, who was buried this morning in Arlington, the late Clinton D. MacDougall. CONFERENCE. BEI'ORT (NO. 839). The SPEAKER The gentleman from New York ask:: unani- The committee of -conference on the disagreeing votes of the mous consent to address the House for two minutes. Is there two Houses on the amendments of the Senate to th~ bill S. 4377, 'objection? having met, after full and free conference have agreed to recom­ There was no objection. mend and do recommend to their respectiYe Houses as follows: Mr. GOULDEN. Mr. Speaker, to-day in beautiful Arlington That the Senate recede from its amendment to amendment Cemetery was laid to rest the body of a brave and heroic soldier No. 3 made by the House to the bill and agree to House amend­ of the Republic. an able lawmaker, a loyal citizen, Brig. Gen. ment No. 3; and that the Senate recede from its disagreement Clinton D. MacDougall, of Auburn, N. Y. He served galhmtly to House amendments Nos. 1 and 2 and agree to the same. from 1861 to 1865, and as colonel of the One hundred and elev­ W. 0 . .ADAMSON, enth New York Volunteers was wounded at Gettysburg and in T. W. SIMS, several other battles of the Civil War. F. C. STEVENS. Though born and reared in Scotland, he was an ardent, loyal Managers on the part of the House. citizen of the country of his adoption. He served with dis­ tinction in the Forty-third and Forty-fourth Congresses from J. H. BANKHEAD, the thirty-sixth New York district, represented by the Hon. KNUTE NELSON, Sereno E. Payne, the oldest Member of the House in point of Managers on the pm·t of tl!e Senate. ser>ice. STATEMENT. For many years Gen. MacDougall had been the president of the board of trustees of the Soldiers' and Sailors' Home at Bath, The Senate passed the bill providing four revenue cutters, in that State. He served his adopted country well and faith­ the House amended the bill, striking out two of them, inserting fully in many positions, and his memory will ever live in the amendment No. 3, authorizing the Secretary of the Treasury, hearts of a grateful people. to supply one revenue cutte~ with medicines and a physician. - It is a special privilege and honor, as a comrade, to pay this The Senate concurred in the first two amendments and con­ brief tribute to one of the Nation's brave defenders and dis­ cmTed in the third amendment with an amendment substan­ tinguished patriots. [Applause.] tially providing for the same two vessels which the House had stricken out in amendments Nos. 1 and 2. The House disagreed WIDvW OF THOMAS B. M'CLINTIO. to the Senate amendment to House amendment No.3 and asked l\lr.' POU. Mr. Speaker, I call up the conference report on for a conference, to which the Senate agreed, but in doing so the bill ( S. 661) for the relief of the widow of Thomas B. Mc­ used language which might be construed as disagreeing to all Clintic, and I ask unanimous consent that the statement be read three of the House amendments. Therefore the conferees in lieu of the report. have deemed it proper to use language in their report which The SPEAKER. The gentleman calls up a conference report expressly agrees to all three of the House amendme.nts, while on the bill indicated by him and asks that the statement be read the Senate expressly recedes from its amendment to the House in lieu of the report. Is there objection? amendment No. 3 and agrP:es to the same, so as to leave the bill There. was no objection. as it was returned by the House to the Senate, striking out The Clerk read the statement. two of the cutters, leaving two authorized, and authorizing the

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Secretary of the Treasnry to supply medicines and a doctor :tor to the agreement of last Saturday. Can we have an understand­ one revenue cutter. ing that it will be taken up on ~ionday or Tuesday morning? W. C . .ADAMSON, If the gentleman says it will come up on Tuesday morning T. W. SrMS, that will relieve the situation. · ' F. c. STEVENS. 1\Ir. FIT2GERALD. We will take it up when the gentleman Manaum·s on the part of the House; from Tennes ee returns. Mr. 1\lOORE. Does the gentleman intend to press the fur­ The SPEAKER. The question is on agreeing to the con­ ther consider:..tion of the bill on Monday? ference report. Mr. FITZGERALD. I shall move for consideration of the The conference report was agreed to. bill whenever it is in order. SUNDRY CIVIL A.PPROPRIATION BILL. M~·· MOORE. Notwithstanding Monday is District day, ac­ cording to the calendar? Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Speaker. I move that the House re­ 1\fr. FITZGERALD. 'I'hat is a matter for the House. I solve itself into Committee of the Whole House on the state of ~a II make the motion, and the House can decide for itself. I the Union for the further consideration of the bill H. R. 17041, mtend to move the consideration of this bill at e>ery oppor­ the sundry civil appropriation bill. tunity. This fiscal year ends in about 10 days. If the House The motion was agreed to. does not want to progress rapidly, the responsibility is upon the Accordingly the House resolved itself into Committee of the House. Whole House on the state of the Union, with 1\!r. Pou in the Mr. MOORE. Then, we are given notice to be prepared on chair. Monday, TueRday, or Wednesday? The CHAIRMAN. The House is now in Committee of the Mr. FITZGERALD. I give no notice of any kind except that Whole House on the state of the Union for the further considera­ I want to proceed with the bill as rapidly as possible. tion of the bill of which the Clerk will read the title. Mr. MANN. The ~entleman from New York knows that as The Clerk read as follows: a rna tter of right, we should return to this rna tter this morning. A bill (H. U. 17041) making appropriations for sundry civil expenses of the Government for the fisca year ending June 30, 1915, and for 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. I do not think the gentleman has a right other purposes. to return to it at this time. The CHAIR::\I.A.N. The Clerk will proceed with the reading 1\Ir. MANN. It was only pa::std over for the day, but of at the bill. course it does not make any ~:ffc rence. .l\fr. l\fOORE. Mr. Chairman, when the House adjourned on Mr. FITZGERALD. The gentleman from North Carolina Saturdny last it was with the understanding that the first mat now in the ch~ir would hardly care to dispose of the pending ter to be taken up this morning would be the item in relation to amendment until tl1e point of order is disposed of, and no tbe Frankford Arsenal, which was passed over. further amendment is in order at that place. ~lr. FITZGERALD. That question can not come up this Mr.. MANN. I think it is in order. morning. There is a point of order pending, and the chairman, 1\fr. FITZGERALD. I think not, with the point of order the gentleman from Tennessee, is absent. · pending. Mr. MA1\'N. It was a matter passed over for the convenience 1\Ir. l\iA...~N. The gentleman from Pennsylvania had the right to offer an amendment. of the chairman, and the agreement was that we should return Mr. FITZGERALD. We want to dispose of the whole matter to it the first d::ty thereafter. at on<'e. I think it ought to go over until the gentleman from Mr. FITZGERALD. The belief was that this bill would be Tennessee comes back. under consideration last Tuesday, but it was shut out because 1\Ir. 1\IOORE. A number of us have waited o'er until the gen­ of the conference report on the naval bill. tleman from New York returned to his bill in order that this Mr. DO~OHOE. Might we not have an understanding that matter might be taken up, the point of order pending, as the in case the gentleman from Tennessee [1\Ir. GARRETT] is in the gentleman recalls. chair on Tuesday next we can go back to this item? .Mr. FITZGERALD. The mntter has been passed over, and I 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. I will ask the House to return to it as soon as the gentleman from Tennessee returns, whether it be will call it np as soon as the gentleman from Tennessee returns. 1\fr. MOORE. The gentleman from Illinois made a sugges­ Tuesday or not. tion thnt an amendment was to be offered and the gentleman Mr. MOORE. We have been here three or fonr days, waiting from ~ew York incor·porated that in his motion. · patiently, while the chairman of the committee has been nwny. Mr. FITZGERALD. We did make an arrangement to accom­ l\fr. FITZGERALD. Oh, my absences are so infrequent that mortate the gentleman from Pennsylvania. I do not think we when I am absent it is conspicuous, which can not be said of ought to take the matter up until the point of order is decided. the gentleman from Pennsylvania. Mr. ~!Alli"N. The point of order only relates to one amend- lUr. 1\IOORE. Can we have a definite arrangement that this ment. · will be taken up on Tuesday morning? Mr. FITZGERALD. That amendment is to provide a certain Mr. FITZGERALD. If the gentleman from Tennessee is in amount of money for the Frankford Arsenal, and the gentleman the chair, and the House considers the bill on Monday, I may: up from Pennsyl~ania wishes to offer an amendment providing call it on Monday. ' additional money, and we ought to settle them all at one time. Mr. MOORE. The gentleman having been absent for three .Mr. MOORE. The gentleman understands that we do not or four da-ys for his own convenience is not inclined to eon ult want to lose the right to offer an amendment. the convenience of others. l\Ir. FITZGERALD. 'Oh, no; we made the agreement that Mr. FITZGERALD. 1\Ir. Chairma n, the gentleman's sta te­ would protect the right of the gentleman from Pennsylvania to ment is so unfounded and unjust that I wish to say that this offer an amendment. arrangement was made for his accommodation and not for m~ . Mr. 1\fOORE. What is the proposition of the gentleman from New York? Mr. MOORE. Oh, I beg the gentleman's pardon. He did not l\fr. FITZGERALD. The gentleman from Tennessee is tem­ make the arr:mgement for me. porarily ahsent-- 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. Because he desired to leave- the city 1\Ir. MOORE. And therefore can not decide the point of last Saturday, while I remained here to perform my public order. duties. Mr. FITZGERALD. And when he returns and gentlemen l\Ir. MOORE. Oh, that is not the fact. The REcoRD will d is­ who are interested are ...11 here we can call the matter up. close the request did not come from me. Mr. MOORE. And we will not lose the right to offer such Mr. FITZGERALD. 1\fr. Chairman, I ask the Clerk to read amendments as we desire? the bill. l\Ir. FIT~GF.RALD. No; the understanding is that you have Mr. 1\IANN. Mr. Chairman, on Saturday last this item was the right to offer further amendments. passed over until Tuesday. or the first day that the House re­ Mr. MOORE. Do I understand that the whole matter will sumed consideration of this bill. That was the order and agree­ go over until 'l'uesday next? ment by unanimous consent. The Chairman of the Committee l\Ir. FITZGERALD. Until the next day we take the bill up, of the Whole now being temporarily absent, and there being a some day next week. point of order reserved, of course the present occupant of the .1\fr. 1\lO'ORE. I am prepared to go on with the Frankford chair will not care to pass upon the point of order; but under matter now. the circumstances the gentleman from New York [Mr. F ITZ· Mr. FITZGERALD. I prefer to have the matter all settled GERALD] ought also to consult the convenience of other Mem­ at one time. bers. I notified the gentleman from Pennsylvania [l\Ir. l\IooRE] · Mr. MOORE. I will ask the gentleman this as a matter of yesterday that under the unanimous-consent agreement the general convenience. We have waited patiently here according Frankford Arsenal matter would come up to-day, and that l 191-L CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-ROUSE. 10793

supposed the point of order und the amendment would be passed banking and currency. Such questions bad hithe1;to belonged over because of the temporary absence of the gentleman from to the Ways and l\1eans Committee. At the same time, all the Tennessee [Mr. GARRETT]. I think the gentleman from New great appropriation bills were given to the new Appropriations York ought to be reasonable about it. What is the objection to Committee. In 1880 the Committee on Agriculture was given sayiug it will be taken up next Tuesday? jurisdiction over the appropriations for that department. In Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I do not know whether 1886 the Committees on Milital,'y Affairs, Naval Affairs, Post tlle Honse will determine to proceed on this bill on Monday or Offices and Post Roads, Foreign Affairs, :md Indian Affairs were not, but if it does, and the gentleman from Tennessee [Mr. given charge of their-respective appropriation bills. GARRETT] is in the chair, I shall ask that the matter be disposed "Prior to 1865 the Government did not have a fiscal year-, and of at that time. If it bas to go over until Tuesday; I will ask there was great looseness in appropriations, so much so that it that it go over until Tuesday. was always a difficult matter to determine just what were the Mr. MANN. What is the objection to agreeing now that it Government's responsibilities regarding them. will come on 'l.'uesday? "A notable case in point was an act passed during the war 1\fr. FITZGERALD. If the gentlemen desire it to go over granting bounty to Volunteer soldiers who reenlisted. That was until Tuesday, I have no objection. a continuing, indefinite appropriation, and the Treasury hon­ Mr. MOORE. That is all we ask. ored all claims under it until1874. In that year Chairman Gar­ 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. Perhaps the bill may be disposed of field put through Congress what was called the "covering-in before Tuesday. That will be my hope. act," and ever since all appropriations have been made for the . Mr. MANN. I think the gentleman is indulging in a vain fiscal years named. hope. "Prior to 1874 when Congress authorized the construction of Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I am satisfied that it go a public building the Treasury honored all demands on that over until Tuesday, if that will accommodate these gentlemen account over a series of years until the building was completed. who are anxious to leave. "Samuel J. Randall was chairman of the committee when Mr. The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. Courts sncceeded to the clerkship. He bas therefore served '.rhe Clerk read as follows : under Chairmen Randall, Holman, Cannon (twice), Sayres, NATIONAL MILITARY PA.BKS, Hemenway, Tawney, and Fitzgerald. Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Park: For continuing the "Mr. Courts is modest, patient, courteous, and faithful to establishment of the Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Park; duty. These are characteristics of his nature. His fund Qf compensation and expenses of three civilian commissioners, maps, sur­ knowledge regarding the details of legislation is seemingly in­ veys, clerical anll other assistance, including $300 for necessary clerical labor under direction of the chairman of the commission, office expenses, exha·ustible. Thousands of Representatives and persons having find all other necessary expenses; foundations for State monuments; business with the Appropriations Committee during the past mowing; historical mblets, iron and bronze; iron gun carriages: roads 30 years would attest that they never went in vain to Mr. and their maintenance; purchase of small tracts of lands heretofore authorized by law·; in all, $57,060. Courts for information. They would also with one v-oice de­ clare that his patience, his courtesy, his kindness were never Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following failing. 11mendment, which I send to the desk and ask to have read. " Observe him from the gallery as he sits beside a chairman The Clerk read as follows : of the committee during the long hours, days, and weeks when · Page 61, line 2, strike out the word " three." the House is considering appropriation bills. A chairman is ' The CHAIRMAN. The question i& on agreeing to the amend­ asked some question regarding some item 1n the bill. Oftentimes ment. the chairman has not the information at hand. He inclines his The amendment was agreed to. head to the clerk beside him, and Mr. Courts in a low voice, Mr. BRYAN. Mr. Chairman, I have here a matter referring not audible in the galleries, gives the desired and correct in­ to this entire bill, which will only take one or two minutes' formation. The chairman apparently, to one not a close ob­ time of the committee. I refer to an article published in the server, gives the information without a hitch, as though be had Plate Printer, the officiai organ of the International Steel and possessed it all the while. This happens scores of times during Oopper Plate Printers' Union of North America, a subordinate the consideration of any appropriation bill. body of the American Federation of Labor, which I desire to "And so it has been for more than 30 years. Congresses may read, as follows: come and Congresses may go, but James C. Courts stays on for­ ever. The political complexion of the House affects not his 11 JAMES C. COURTS-A PUBLIC SERVANT THE VALUE Oil' WHOSE SERVICES Alllil KNOWN OF ALL MEN-HE IS MODEST, PATIENT, lUND, AND tenure. There is not enough political influence in the United COURTEOUS-THH APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEPJ, SINClil IT WAS SET States to oust him from his office. That trnth tells the story of UP, IN 1865, llAS HAD BUT TWO CLERKS-8li!RVED UNDER RANDALL, the value of his services to the Government." HOL~iAN, SAYRES, CANNO~, HEMENWAY, 'l'AWNEY, AND FITZGERALD. Mr. PAYNE. Mr. Chairman, I am very glad to join with "If we were asl\.ed the question, What man, among the hun­ the gentleman from Washington in the tribute that he has paid dreds of thousands in the Government service, is indispensable to a faithful servant of this House whom I have known per­ 1n his position? our first thought would be of James C. Courts, sonally during all of my service here. I can testify to the truth clerk of the Committee on Appropriations . of the House of of every word that is stat-ed in his praise in the newspaper Representatives. l\Iany men, including hundreds of Representa­ article which the gentleman has just read. tiYes, have hall the same thought regarding 1\fr. Courts. Time But I rose also to pay another tribute tbis morning. My bas well demonstrated that no man's services are indispensable; esteemed and honored colleague, Mr. GouLDEN, has paid a but it is a truth which no man will dispute, that there is not tribute to a resident and citizen of my own town, Clinton in the Government service to-duy a more valuable public servant Dougall MacDougall. When the gentleman from Kew York than the subject of this sketch. And if his compensation were was paying that tribute I was absent from the House attend­ gauged relatively to his value to the Government his s~lary ing the last rites to Gen. MacDougall nt Arlington. I knew would be the topnotcher of all those on its pay rolls. Gen. MacDougall as a young man, as a soldier, and I haYe "Mr. Courts was born in the Trinity River country of Te:Jras. known his career since, both in the political an~ in the lmsiness When but a boy he moved to TennesSee. He studied law, nnd world. I want to indorse everything that his comrade, Mr. the supreme court of that State gave him a certificate admitting GOULDEN, has said. He was an honored citizen of my own him to the bar. town, a faithful soldier-nay, more than that, a brilliant soldier, "In 1877 John D. C. Atkins, of Tennessee, was chairman who never knew fear, who maintained strict discivline, n !though of the Committee on Appropriations. Knowing young Courts's a volunteer soldier without experience when he went into tlle ability, he made him assistant clerk of that committee. The Army, a man who rose high on the rolls of the Army during the clerk at the time was Robert J. Stevens, of California. He War of the Rebellion. He was one of the best sollliers that the was appointed to that position by Thaddeus SteYens in 1865. Republic has produced. He was in mnny battles aucl was Although he bore the same name as the first chairman of the wounded se-rerely at times, but his unfaltering conra~e neYer committee. the two were not relatives. l\1r. Stevens resigned in wayered. He was always true to duty on the fielll of battle. 1883, and Mr. Courts succeeded to the clerkship. He h::ts held He hnd a successful career in Congress prior to my coming here, the posHion for 31 years. 1\Ir. Stevens and himself are the only. and I rise to pay this tribute to one of my old friends. [Ap­ clerks the committee has hnd since its foundation. plause.] "The committee was first constituted in 1865, and Thaddeus 'l'be Clerk read as follows: SteYeus was nnmcd as chairman. Prior to that year the ap­ Shiloh National Milltary Pat·k: For continuing the wot·k of estab­ propriations. \Yith some few exce11tions, were made by the Com­ lishing a national military park on the. battle field of Shiloh: Tenn.; mHtee. on Wnys and l\Ieans. In tlle same year another new compensation of three civilian comnnsswners; secretary: clencal and other services ; labo1· ; historical tablets ; maps and sunrc.rs ; roads; committee, tlln t on Banking n nd CutTency, was constituted. To purchase and .transportation or supplies and materials; office and other this committee was gi\·en jurisdiction over all questions of necessary expenses, $25,800. 10794 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSR JUNE 20.,

l.fr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I .offer the following Mr. FITZGERALD. As I recnll, at Vicksburg the grounds amendment, wh:ch I :;;end to the desk and ask to have read. are much le ad'rn.Dced than nt the other parks, and this man The Clerk read as follows: h:ts charge of this work, .and the two places are combined, and On page 61. line 12,. :strike out tbe word "tbree." he acts as botb elerk and cn~ineer. Mr. .MA.1 'N. HnYe we bad this mrrn there be!ore under the The CHAIRMAN. The question is on a~reeing to the amend­ appropriat1.o:nB heretofore made? ment. Mr. FITZGERALD. They had an engineer and a clerk and 1\fr. BARTON. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask tbe gentle­ they dispensed Tr-itl:l one position, and this man acts in both man from ~ew York the re~son for that am~ndment, which is capacities. airuilar to the one agreed to in the paragr:aph preceding? The question was taken. and tihe amendment was arreed to. Mr. FITZGERALD. .Mr. Chairman. n year or two ago it The Clerk read as follows: was prm·jden that as ;acancies in the otlke of civilian commis­ Flor wideJ?ing to n?t ex<>eedlng 18 feet and imprf establlsbing to the committee to be unneoe$sary, and we desir-ed to put that the national pa.r·k at Gettyilburg, Pa. ; acquisition of lands, su.r'"eys, and maps; constructing, improving, an.d msintaining avenues, roads, 'limitatio-n. and brid£es thet·eon ; making ft>nees an(! gate.c;; marking the lines of i\.Ir. FOSTER All Tight. . battte wUb tablets and guns, eacb tablet be:Jring a brief legend giving Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Chairmnn, I move to strike out the last historic facts, and compiled without censure and without prai!<.e; . preserving the features of the battle field and the monuments thereon: word. Tbe -commHtee deemed it wise in connection with thi3 providing for n suitable office for the commissioners in Gettysburg; item to limit the width of tbe road to 18 feet. I am not alt'G-­ eompens.ation of three civilian commissiont>rs, cle:!'ical and other servtces, gether certain but what it will be found that that is ratller expense!>, and labor; purchase ancl, preparation of tablets and gun earriages and placin~ tbem in position; and nll other expenses incidental narrow in some plnces on these mads, but it cnme out io ·the to the foregoing, $50,000. hearings or de•eJoped in the hearings that the road Je~1ding to the west entrance was being widened to a width of 30 feet, anJ lfr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following the committee belie,·ed that was an unnecessary and excessive amendment, which I send to the {lesk and ask to have read. width, and that if these roads were generally widenert to a The Clerk read as folloxvs: Page 62, line 1, strike out the word " three." width of 30 feet tile cost would be so great that Congress would not be inclined to continue the work. If it shall develop that The CHAinMAN. The question is on agreeing to th~ amend- there are places on these roads where they should be widened JI'lent. to a greater wldth than 18 feet, tbat can be pro>ided for here­ 'I'he amendment was agreed to. after; therefore I did not insist on my objection to tl.tia liruita.­ The Clerk rend as follows: tion in width, because, as a matter of fact, most of the roads Vicksburg National Military Park: For continuing the work of estab­ lishing tho Vicksburg National Mnitary 'Park; compensation of .th1·e.e are not being constructed to a width in excess of. 18 feet and a civilian commis£1ont-rs; en~inet>r aDd clerk. labor. iron gun carnages, large portion of the construction is 16 feet. mounting of siege guns, memorials. monumf'nts, markers. and biJ;torical Mr. STAFFORD. Will the gentleman yield? tablets giving bistoricnl facts, compiled w.ithout praise and wltbout cen­ aure ; IDD.ps, surveys; roads. bridges, restoration of earthworks. purchase Mr. liONDELL. Yes. ef lands, purchase and transportation of supplies and materials; and Mr. STAFFORD. Can the gentleman inform the committee •tber necessat-y expenses, .'$4.2..200, as to the width of the roads already estilian commissioners should not be filletL and as the pose the engineer would be entirely justified in wid.erung the commissions go out of existence their duties are devolved upon r<>ads .on the turns. the War Department. Some vacancies ha'l'e occurred in some l\Ir. STAFFORD. But does not this provision, aiS the gentle­ of the commissi<>ns, so there ar.e no longer three commissjoners, man reads 'it, absolutely limit the construction to 18 feet, a.nd it was deemed advisable to strike out the word u three" whether on turns or whether it is on straight stretches? There .and just provide for civilian eommissioners. is no -exception at all mnde under this pr

1\fr. 1\IO)."'DELL. 1\othing of the kind. On the contrary, there The. Clerk rend us follows: are ro:1d , so f11t' as the grading is concerned, and so far as the For widening to not exceeding 18 f('et and improving the surface of foundntion of tlle roads is concerned, that are, I presume, 40. roads and for building bridgPs and culvPrts, in tnP forest rP~<;<>rve lNld- or even 50, feet wide in the park. Under this. limitation the ing out of the parl{ from the enst boundary, to make sue roads suitable d and safe for animal-drawn and motor-p1·opelled vehicles, $~0,000. engineer would not be expected to put the finish to tho roa · Mr. FOSTER. Mr. Chn..irman, I reserve a point of order on beyond 18 feet. this paragraph. l\Ir. STAFFOllD. If he laid the foundation, I believe the 1\lr. MO~DELL. The gentleman knows that the paragraph gentlem:m will agree-- is not subject to a point of oruer. The CHAilll\llN~ The time of the gentleman from Wyoming Mr. FOSTER. I do not know that. We 'lave -Ot had a de- [1\Ir. l\1o!'iDELL] has expired. cision from the Chair yet. l\fr. 1\IO~DET.. L. l\Ir. Chairman, r ask unanimous cousent for The CHAIRlliAX Does the gentleman make the point of two minutes more. order or reserve it? The CHA.Ill:\IAN. Is there objection? Mr. FOSTER. Mr. Chairman. I will get a little information There was no objection. first. This is a provision fer widening the roads in a forest Mr. MO~DELL. I will say frankly to the gentleman thnt, reserve? persorutlly having a very cons;de1·able interest in Yellowstone l\Ir. l\!01\"'DELL. Will the gentleman allow me to make a Park, I w11s not anxious to have this language inserted in the brief statement in regard to the matter? bill. The committee was inclined to insist on it, and as far as 1\lr. FOSTER. c~m the gentleman answer the question? Is the mn.ior porti•m of the ronds is concerned it is wine ~nou~h. that a fact? Mr. STAFFORD. I am surprised thnt he is approvmg 1t. Mr. 1\IOI\"'DELL. It is. Mr. MO:\'DELL. I on~y agreed to it because it seemed to the M1·. FOSTER. That by this bill you are taking away from committeP- that there was a disposition on the part of the engi- the Agricultural Department the . right to control roads and. neers to td>den the roads at some points unnetessa.rily. build ronds and are putting it in this bill? 1\Ir. STEVENS of Minnesota. l\la.y I ask the gentleman a l\Ir. MO~"'DELL. We are not taking anything. We are just _question? continuing our jurisdiction. 1\Ir. MO"NDELL. Yes. l\lr. FOSTER. Continuing your jurisdiction? You mean ex- Mr. STEVENS of 1\.Iinnesota. To what extent have motor tending it. vehides been introduced in the park. and what difference will :Mr. MONDELL. I do not mean extending it. I mean just such iutroduction make as to the width of these roadways? what I say. This road, the East Road, or Cody Rond. as it is Mr. IO~ELL. :Motor vehicles have not been introduced known. was built out of ttppropriations carried in the sundry into the park at all except as reg7n'ds a country road in the civil bill. It has always been maintnined ·out of appropriations northwest corner of the park in Idaho that is no part of the carried in that bill. The item which precedes this bas a pro­ park system. This widening of the roads is for. ~e purpose of vision for ordinary repairs for the road. This is simply an putting them in condition so that they can be utilized: for motor item for the widening of that approach as. we have widened vehicles. it being the opinion of the officers in charge that it other approaches. This road was built as a part of the park would be unsafe to altow motor vehicles on the prest:>nt roads system out of appropriations carried in tills bill. and has al­ without widening. This is the second appropriation, I believe. ways been a part of the park system. for widening tile roads. I think last year's appropriation WI\S :Mr. FOSTER. This provides for widening the roods and the first under a pian for the widening of the present roads building bridges in the forest r~erve, which is not n part of. sufficient to make them safe for b-oth motor and horse-drawn the parking system. vehicles. 1\Ir. 1\IO~"'DELL. It is true that this road is in the forest Mr. FITZGERALD. If the gentleman will permit me. the reserve; but it is also true that this road was built as a part authorization to widen and improve these roads for motor- of the park system, and a part of that was done before this 1 h d h . .h 1 d fr th lnnd was in the forest reserve. It is a road started ye-ars ago, propelled >ebicies only app ies tot ose roa s w IC ea om e built from appropriations curried in this bill, and no other onte restricted the work that is be- fo.r the widening of this road as distinguished from the ordinary in~ done so that persons can go from the place from which they repair of the road; it is a new item just as the preceding item start and into the park by automobiles and reach certain sta- was a new item last yenr. tions.. Then. if they wish to go around the park. they can go Mr. HAMILTON of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, may I ask the around in horse-drawn vehicles. gentleman a question? Mr. MO~"DELL. It is true that while up to this time no Mr. M01\"'DELL. Yes. proYision has IJeen made for the widening of the main circuit, M1•. HAMILTON of Michigan. The ~entleman speaks of this these appropriations for the widening of the approaches, when road being within the park system. Does he mean it is within they shall ha-re l>een used and the roads shall have been so the az:ea of the park? widened. will make it possible to reach the belt line with auto- Mr. .M:O~'"DELL. No; it is not. mobiles o>er any of thE' roads from the outside. Now. there Mr. HAMILTON ot lllichigan. Then it is outside of the park will be no difficulty after that is done in having regulations proper? established under which motor vehicles could go from point to 1\fr. MO~TDELL. It is. point on the belt line nt a time when carria~es are not going lUr. HAMILTON of Michigan. And it is within the .forest over the roads. In other words.. motor vehicles could very reserve? properly b~ a.liowed to go from point to point on the belt line at l\Ir. MO"NDELL. It is. But there are two roads leading into nilcllt or early in the morning, at a. time when the horse-drawn the park which are partly within the forest reserve nnd whic:h. vehicles are not on the ronds. have always been carried in the sundry c-ivil appropriation bHl The CHAlilllAN. The time of the-gentlem::-.n from Wyoming in connection with park items. One of them is the rond Jeading. has again expired. · from the south, from the Thumb to Jackson Lake. The otheJJ' Mr. M:ONDELL. .Mr. Chairman. I ask unanimous consent for is the road leading from the east boundary down the North Fork two minutes more. of the Shoshone. It happens to be in a forest resene; but that The CHAIR:\JA. ...~. Is there opjection? does not change or alter thE' fact that it is a rond built out of There was no objection. p::trk appropriations and maintained always from those appro- Mr. l\IONDELL. Th~3 appropriation when used is expected to priations. · put the roads leading into t11e park in such condition that motor Mr. GOULDEN. 1\Ir. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? vehicles can reach the belt-line system from any direction over Mr. 1\fO::\'DELL. Certainly. which there is a road. Thereafter we can either continue widen- Mr. GOULDEN. These roads are exclusively in the forest ing the roads, or if that is uot done. or until it is done-it will reserve? be entirely prr~cti.roble. and I hope it will be done-provide by 1 Mr. MONDELL. A part of this particular road is in the regulation to allow motor vehkles to pass over the ronds at a forest reserve and a part of it is in tl.le pa.rk. time when horse-draw:.1 vehicles are not using them. I Mr. GOULDEN. And it is intended as an outlet from Yel- The CHAIRl\IAN. The Clerk will read. lowstone Park to where( 10796 CONGRESSION_f\_L RECORD-HOUSE. JUNE 20;

Mr. :.\IO~"TIELL. It is an outl et from Yellowstone Park in The CHAIRMA..~. Does the gentle.man from Illinois [Mr. the direction of Cody. It is the ..outlet to the Chicago, Burling­ FosTER] make a point of order? ton & Quincy Railroad. :Mr. FOSTER. Yes; I make a point of order. · Mr. GOULDEN. It is a connection between tile railroad at l\1r. 1\IO~"TIELL. Before discussi·ng the point of order, Mr. Cody or some other station and tile Yellowstone Park? Chairman, I would like to know wh::.. t the point of order is. · Mr. 1\IONDELI.. This road does not extend to within 30 Mr. FOSTER. The point of order is that this road through miles of tile railroad. It extends only to the boundary of the the forest reserve is not a part of the parking system, and that forest reserve. There are about 30 miles of road that is outside tile roads of the Forest Service are under the control of the of tile forest reserve maintained by the local people. Agricultural Department. This attempts to build roads through .Mr. GOULDEN. There is a road leading from the railroad the forest reserve, which is not a part of the parking system. station to the terminal of this road, as I tmderstand it? · Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Chairman, that is not a very clear 1\Ir. MONDELI.J. Yes; a good one. point of order. Mr. FOSTER. ~Ir. Chairman, I believe that while it is true The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will ask the gentleman from that when this road was built this land was not in the forest Wyoming whether the Committee on Appropriations has any reserve, still it is now a part of the forest reserve and under the jurisdiction oYer the forest reserves? . control of the Agricultural Department, and is not a part of the Mr. MOl\TDELL. 'l'he Committee on Appropriations has juris­ pat'king system. diction over this road, and I want to lay down two propositions 1\Ir. 1\IONDELL. Let me make a suggestion to my friend be­ in regard to it. fore be proposes his point of order. I do not think the point of Mr. FOSTER. They have no jurisdiction over the forest re­ order is good. But, assuming that it is, we Forest Service has serves. no money to repair this road. It is a road that, so far as the Mr. MONDELL. If the gentleman· will allow me, I would Forest Service is concerned, is of little valuE> to them. It is like to quote a few facts as against the gentleman's fancy. not the kind of road that they build. They build roads ·leading Mr. FOSTER. The gentleman may have some fancies himself. across the reserves, having value in connection with ~orest mat­ 1\Ir. MONDELL. This is a work in progress; it is an item to ters. They would not repair this road if you gave them the op­ finish a work in progress, undertaken and carried on \.holly by portunity to do so. They have not any desire· to repair it. and under the War Department, now under the supervision of Tiley n~ed their money for expenditure elsewher~. I am sure the War Department, always under the supervision of the War the gentleman from Dlinois has no desire to allow this road to Department, never undertake·n by the Agricultural Department, get into a condHion where it can not be used, becar:se it is one and never at any moment under the supervision of the Agricul- of the very important entraaces to the park. So far as the peo­ tural Department. · pl~ of Wyoming are concerned, we would be perfectly willing to This East, or Cody, Road was first provided for in an appro­ hav£. the Forest Service take care of the road, if they had the priation carried in the sundry civil bill in connection with park money to do it or were disposed to. They are not disposed to appropriations, providing for its construction by the War Depart­ spend any money on the road, and tlley have no money available· ment by the same officers as constructed the roads within the to spend on the road. They need whatever small s·JIDs they have park. My recollection is that that first appropriation was made elsewhere, for roads leading across the forest reserves or lead­ some eight or nine years ago. It was carried continuously fug from ranger station to ranger station. until the road was completed. It was carried in the same item Mr. FOSTER: Mr. Chairman, I think that this is not a matter as the park appropriation, the construction item. In other that comes within the jurisdiction of the national parks, and I words, the item was for roads within the Yellowstone Park do not believe that that item has any place in the bill providing so much, a certain portion of which was to be used for the con­ appropriations for parks. struction of the East, or Cody, Road. The road was constructed l\1r. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman from in that way. . Illinois will permit me, I think the Agricultural appropriation Every one of the park appropriations since the road was com­ pleted has carried, as the present appropriation carries, in the bill carries about half a million dollars for roads in the forest item preceding this, a provision in connection with the park reserves. The roads that are built by the Forest Service, how­ appropriation for maintaining this road. The current appro­ ever, a1'e roads that are essential for the proper maintenance of· priation bill is as follows: the forest reserves. Yellowstone National Park: For maintenance, repair, and improve· .Mr. FOSTER. Oh, not entirely so. I think the gentleman ments, $125,000, of which sum $75,000 shall be immediately n vailable, will recall that many of these roads are built through tht forest including not to exceed $15,000 for the maintenance of the road in re ·erves for the convenience of the people who go through them the forest reserve leading out of the park from the east boundary. when it is necessary for them to do so, and also for the purpose That is the existing, current law. That is the way that item of enabling the officials of tile Forest Service to go through has been carried for years. them. The Government built these roads so that the people Now, we have inaugurated some extensive work of improve­ may go over them. ment in connection with the park roads. That is the work of Mr. FITZGERALD. No. The appropriations are to enable widening them so as to make them available for motor-drawn the Forest Service to build such roads and trails as are neces· vehicles. sary for the proper maintenance of the forest reserves. But Mr. HAMILTON of Michigan. Will the gentleman yield? this road from Cody to the eastern entrance to the park is the Mr. MONDELL. As soon as I get through with this state- road that goes from one ot the railroad stations through a ment. · forest reserve into the park. If it were put in such condition :Mr. HAMIL'ION of Michigan. I thank the gentleman. that automobiles could be used on it, persons can go from Cod.v Mr. MOl\TDELL. And in connection with that enlarging t<' the eastern entrance of the park to the belt line in one day. work we have this item that relates to this park road, the part The road now is not in very satisfactory shape. There has of it that is in the forest reserve and outside of the park. been a dispute for some time as to whether the Forest Service Now, I will yield to the gentleman from Michigan. should improve and maintain it or whether it should be main­ :Mr. HAMILTON of Michigan. Simply for my own infor­ tained as part of the expenses of the Yellowstone National Park. mation I want to ask the gentleman if there has grown up a In the item on page 62 there is included $7,500 for the main· system by which the Federal· Government undertakes to con­ tenance of the road in the forest reserve leading out of the struct roads for the State of Wyoming running to the park, call­ park at tile east boundary, which is this road, and not to exceed ing it a park system, and the Government standing the expense? $2,500 for maintenance of the road in the forest reserve leading If so, how long has the Government been doing that? out from the south boundary. These roads are to be considereil Mr. MONDELL. Oh, no; there has not any such system as as a part of the roads of the park system, and the cost should that grown up. I want to call the attention of the gentleman to bn charged t<1 the expense of maintaining the park. It Is con­ the fact that the Yellowstone National Park-- tended-and I think correctly-that the Forest Service is not Mr. HAMILTON of Michigan. I know about the Yellow­ justified in flpending the money that would be necessary to put stone National Park. them in proper shape out of·tbis appropriation. Mr. 1\!01\"TIELL. Every acre of it that amounts to anything This is a question of making available roads in the park. is within the State of Wyoming. After some discussion it was thought advisable to include this Mr. HAMILTON of Michigan. Exactly. We all know that. item in order to put the road in proper shape. Perhaps it wi11 Mr. 1\IONDELL. It is a part of the State of Wyoming. not cost so much to maintain it hereafter. 1\Ir. HAMILTON of Michigan. Yes; but it is a Government 1\lr. FOSTER. Does the Forest Service have control of this reservation, within the jurisdiction of the Government. As I reserve, or does the parking system have conh·ol '! understand, you have an extension of the highways out into the . - Mr. FITZGERALD. The War Department, nnder tile lan­ State of ·wyoming, which would properly be 1mder the control guage of the other appropriation, maintains it. and supervision of the State of Wyoming, but a system has 1914. CONGRESSIONAL 'RECORD-HOUSK 10797, grown up there by which the Federal Gavel'nment has main­ Mr. RAKER. I understand this appropriation is for tile im­ tained tb€'se ronds for the State of Wy.om1ng. provement ·of n road entirely ·within the boundaties of the Mr. l\!O_IDELL. Of course the gentleman .is mist3.ken; that forest reserve outside of the national -park. ~ all. · Mr. MO.l\'DELL. Yes. Mr. HAMILTON of llfichigan. I should Uke to know ~about lit. 1\lr. RAKER. And it is solely under the GovE>rnment £U}}er· Mr. 1\10~IDELL. This East Rood, so called, is about half in vision ana eontrol? the fore t reser>e and half in the park. It leaves the main Mr. MOXDELL. .Absolutely. park system at the outlet of the Yellowstone La"ke. passes over Mr. RAKER. Then it seems to me fuat the Government ought the divide via Syl•an Luke, down Jones Creek, to the bonndnry to ·improve those roads, •in order to have the approach into the of the park, and continues down the north "fork of the Sho­ national ;park. shone through the forest 11eserve. 'Tbe only part that the Gov­ 1r. 1\!0~"'DELL. The point of the gentleman from Illinois ernment has built is the part in the 'Park and in the forest [Mr. FosTER}, so fa1· as he bas made any point at all. I assume reserYe. There is no part of it outside of the forest reserve. to be that inasmuch as the road is within the forest reserve, I will say for the information of the gentleman from Michigan therefore we can not appropriate for it on this bill. If that [Mr. liAMILTON] thflt no States in the West build roads wttbin were true. there :,tre other appropriations carried in this bill forest reserves if they can help it. Ti..ey get no taxes frem that would go out on a point of ord2r. Without regard to the foreEt re er>es. They receive no income from forest r€'serv-es. loc.'ltion of the road, it was built in connection with the park As far as they are concerned, forest reserves are ab~olutely system 'by the officials of the War Department, by the same unremu:neTatiYe. organizntion that built the other park roads, and it is being 1\Ir. HAl\lii..TON of Michigan. Are all these roads across m~1intained by the .park appropriation. The only reason why forest ~eserves? thls particular item was segregated ls that we are segregating 1\Ir. .MOXDELL. The road that the gentleman from Illinois all these items for widening these roads. [Mr. F.osTER] has made his point of order on, some 29 miles Mr. RAKER. Will the gentleman yield? of it, is on a forest reserve. l\ir. 1\IDNDELL. Yes. .Mr. BAKER. I would like to say to the gentleman that when Mr. HMJ:ILTO~ of Michigan. I was only thinking bow con­ venient it ·would be for a State, if it bas within its borders u you expend the money for maintaining the park, and the county Federal pnrk or reservation, simply to have the reservation and State expend money building good roads outside, the Gov­ ronds extended out into the State. ernment ought to build good ~·oads on the interv£-niug territory 1\1r. l\:101\'TIELL. If they will open that forest reserve and over the forest reserves. The Government bas absolute juris­ giYe it to the State of Wyorrung, we will not ask an,)body to diction of ·the forest reserres, and they ought to put those road~ build any ronds; but it strikes me that the gentlem:m from in .shape, :so that the people can bav~ the use of it and get into Michigan is rather straining .a point when he insists first that the pnrk. It is ~solutely '!lecessary, so that the people can have our lands shall be kept in perpetual reservation, so that we re­ the benefit of it. ceiYe no income from them, and then that we shall build roads Mr. MO~'DELL. The gentJeman knows that the people of ?f\7yoming do not use the road tD any considerable extent. It is over fhem. a tourists' road. l\fr. H.A.l\fiLTON of Mic1ligan. I . was just thinking of the other States. l\lr. RAKER. Yes.; .I had the pleasure of going over the road, 'ruld .also the roads in Oregon, and the Government ought l\1r. l\10XDELL. That is far from the point. to put 'the roads in shape so that the people can get into the The CHAIRMAN. The Chair desires to ask the gentlenmn park. from Wyoming whether this apprnpriation is to be spent wholly .Mr. FOSTER. Yes; but the Government ought to do it in :within the forest resene? the right way. Mr. !\101\'DELL. This particular item is to ;be _spent wboDy Mr. 1\101\"DELL. As :far as the people's interest is concerned, in the forest reserve. as the item which preceded it is to be it would be immaterial to them whether the money was spent spent nlso on a pru·ticular section of road. In other ·words, in by the Forestry Bureau or spent out of the appropriation made this widening of the roads of the park system we have indi­ in this lbilL It would make a great deal of difference to tbe cated the particular part of the roads which we wanted ~iden€'d. forestry officers, bec~:mse they have no funds with which to But the important matter is this: That this is a -work in prog· build and repair roads like this. ress; that this road was built by the military officers. It Wflb I appealed to the Forestry :Ser>ice two _years ago when a built by the War Department, and has always been repaired bridge on this road got into such a condition of disrepair that by the War Department under appropriations carried in this it was dangerous. I appealed to the local forestry officers. and bill. :md the repairs for this particular road a.re in the item they said, in ·the :first place, they had not any funds; and. in which precedes this, which is an item that embraces the park the second place, it was not the sort of a road that they built roads. a II of them. so that it Js and has been recognized as a and repaired; a:nd, in the third place, they bad no jurisdiction part of the park system. aver 'the road; that the War Department bad a crew up there Now, it happens that tbi.<; particular section of this partieular. BJt work, and it was for them to make the repairs. upproach is in n forest reserve, 1:be upper end of 1:be road be­ ir. BARTON. Will the gentleman yield? ing in the park~ but the fact that the lRild over which the road .Mr. ltiONDELL. Yes. is built happens· to hn>e been included in a forest reserve. a Mr. .BARTO~. The suggestion was made by the gentleman part of 'it. since the road wag built, does not alter the fact that from Michigan i:hat fbe appropriation was more for tile benefit it is a road built with appropriations cru·ried in this bill. built of the people of Wyoming. I would like to ask the gentleman by the Wm· Department. built by the same ~fficers who have this question: I find sn item of $211,000 for the improvement built the pnrk roads, truilt with the same organization, built of the harbor at Marquette, l\Iich. Does not the gentleman with the s:1me tools, built at the same time. and always con­ think that the people would •profit more by the building and tinued under the jurisdiction of the park officers. It ha:s never widening of this road than they would by this harbor im­ been under the jurisdiction of any other department of the provement? Government. The CHAIIUI.AN. The ti.me of the gentleman from Wyoming It d{){>S not seem to me, Mr. Chairman. that there could be bas expired. any sort of que tion in regard· to 'it. If this goes out on :1 1\lr. .FOSTER. Nr. Chairman, the hearings disclosed the fact point of order, there are items in th1s bill for areas or parks that whim the chairman of the committee asked Capt. Knight entirely surrounded by a forest reserve that must -go out. ln reference to this item be answered thnt this was a new item; 'That does not change the situation in regara to this road. If that it hnd ne~er been in any of the bills before. Then he de­ the theory of the gentleman from Illinois were correct then scribed the Toad running from the eastern boundary of the park an it is necessnry to do to aboli~b an approHch to a national through the forest reserve toward Cody. The length Df the park wbi<'h bas been built by the Wat• Department and is mam­ I'O

'l'be CHAIR~TAN . (l\Ir. Pou). · The gentleman from New York mod~r~, up-to-date, and comprehensive· system of ·accounting under the provisiOns or section 20 of the act to regulate commerce, so . that the · asks unanimous con ·ent to retnrn to page 49. Is there objec.:. books and records of a railroad will show ft·om the trial balances ·as t lon "! reports rendered to the Interstate Commerce Commission the act;ual and real status of each company, and from which the tangible and In­ :\lL·. FITZGEUALD. For what purpose? tangible values may at all times and at any time ln the future be Mr. LEYL To offer a substitute for thnt section. deduced. Mr. li'[TZGICRALD. Let us hear it read first. ., All o~ this work an~ valuation to be begun within 60 days from date The CH.AIIUJAN. The Clerk wm· report the amendment. o ~igmng and executwn of contract and finished within from 3 to 4 years from date of beginning, for the sum of $fi, Hl7 ,000, to be paid Tlle Clerk read as follows : $100.000 upon execution of contract and balance in monthly install­ ~t r ilgnlnte commerce _and amendments thereto, and to secure in­ bemg eqr.al-to g1v.e preference to the available skill first, in the Army for ma tion concer-ning theh· s tocks. bonds, and other securities, and to and ~avy; second. m the civil-service lists; third, to the general American nward the contl'nct to the lowt> st bidder. Said valuation shall be com­ p_ubhc, ~e servm~ the right of choice and determination of the most effi.­ pleted within four years and shall not exceed $5,197,000; and to ena.ble c~ent slnl_I required in the different departments, and also reserving the f,a irl commission to carry out the provisions of this section there is nght of mstant removal for want of skill or efficiency or the discovery !Jcrel.J y approp1·ia ted $1 ,000,000:" of lack of high moral character, so that when the work is finished the GovE;rnm~nt '!ill bnve a cOrJ?S of assistants of the highest skill and :Mr. FITZGERALD. I will reserve the right to object for five qualificatiOns m mattt>rs of railroad valuation and knowledge. minute . Very respectfully, l\It·. I.EVY. Mr. Chairman, the reason I offer this is that the E. C. M. RAND. nppropriation in the item contained: in this bill j~ some $1.900.000. BRTEF OF FEDERAL VALUATION ACT-H. It. 22693, I hu i' e here an estimate made by a very distinguished ex vert in railrond ntlues, nnd be nsked me to submit the following esti­ Passed House of ReprE>sentatives December 5, 1912. PassPd Senate with amendments February 24, 1913. rna tes to you. Tba t estimate is as follows: Approved March 1, 1913. NEW YORK~ N. Y., Febr-um·y 24-, 1.91-i. Enabling Interstate Commerce Commission to value property of com­ Hon. JEI?FERSOX 1\!. LEvY, mon ca~·riers and prescribing cet:tain. methods of procedure. Washington, D. 0. Pbys1cal valuatiOn and securmg mformation concerning their stocks DEAR MR. LEVY: I respectfully request you to submit to Congress the and bonds and boards of directors. following proposition on my behalf : Amending an act to regulate commerce approved February 4 1887 That upon a duly authorized and executed contract I will value the by ~ddin~ there~o a new section. known as section 1!)a. ' ' rnited States railroads nnd carry ont the provisions therefor of the F1_rst. Each piece of p:cperty: Orig-inal cost to date; cost of repro- . Fedt>ml valuation act, which passed the House of Representatives De­ duction ne~; cost of reproduction, less depreciation, with analysis of cember 5, l!H2, the Senate, with amendments, February 24, 1913, and methods, w1th r~asons for ditl'erences. Other values and elements, if was approved March 1, 1913, entitled "Enabling Interstate Commerce anv, with· analysis of methods, with reasons for dHft>rences. Commission to value property of common cal'l'iers and prescribing cer­ Second: Original . cos~ of lands, rights of way, and terminals owned or . tain methods of pt·ocedure; m the physical valuation and securing used at time lationshlp to competitors. amount of money derived f1·om the sale of any portion of such grants Stl·ategetic relationship to general and specific commodities carried. and the value of any unsold portion thereof at time (acquired) and at Show as required by act March 1, 1.913- present time. . l'roperties held for purposes othet· than those of common carrier, Also the value of any concession and allowance made by such com­ original cost and present value, with analysis of each and reasons for mon carrier to the United States Government or to any State county difi'Pl' C' nCt>S. or municipality in consideration of such aid, gift, grant, or doitation. ' History and organization of present and previous or subsidiary cor- Paragraph 9. Commission from or proscribed. Method of procedure porations. Form in which result shall be submitted. Classification of elements that ·(In the matter of histories of railroads, I now have the most complete constitute ascertained value. data extant; In many instances more complete records of their individ­ Investigation shan show value in whole and separately value eacb ual acts than the companies themselves.) State, Territory, and District of Columbia classified in detail. Iuct·eases and decreases of stocks, bonds, and other securities, and Paragraph 10. Commerce 60 days after approval and reported as pro­ moneys received upon syndicating, banking, and financial a~rangements. gressed to Congress;... beginning each session thereafter, until completed. Net earnings. Paragraph 11. coiner pursuant to commission or its agents from Gt·oss earnings. time to time as required maps, profiles, contracts, reports of engineers, Expenditures of all moneys and purposes for which same were ex- other documents, records, papers, or copies of any or all. pended. Free access to agents; cooperate and aid. In t·egard to stocks and bonds, will show exactly properties upon Paragraph 12. Commission keep informed as to extensions and im­ which they were a lien and the precedence of such lien, that is, first, provements or other changes in condition. From time to time revise second, · third, or other •ien. In regard to expenditures in operation, will separate actual expense of and correct and revise and correct valuations. operation from expC' nditures for betterments, additions, replacements, Paragraph 13. Carriers' report as commission requires. and specify expenditures for repait·s and expenditures chargeable to de­ · Paragraph 14. Thirty days' notice when tentative valuation is com­ preciation. (l\lucb of the data for this work I now have on hand.) pleted and before such valuation shall become final by registered letter Further, In regat·d to the active stocks and bonds, I can show in de­ to carrier, Attorney General of the United States, governor of the tail those which have become obsoiete or worthless through acts of cor­ State, and such additional parties as the commission may prescribe, porations, and which, through corporate acts, such stocks or bonds and allow 30 days in which to file protest. If no protest, valuation should not enter into the cost or value of a specific company. becomes final. . 8how as required by act l\larch 1. 1913: · Paragraph 15. If protest, then bearing. Final determination pt·ima Amount and value of any aid. gift, gt·ant, or right of way or donation facie evidence in Interstate Commerce Commission proceedings.' to a ny carrier or previous corpot·ation, by the Government of the United Paragraph 16. If in trial-Interstate Commerce Commission-court Statt>s, or any State, county, municipality, individuals, associations or refer to Interstate Commerce Commission to bear and determine ques­ corporations. ' tion value and report bar.k to court .A ny grant of la nd to any carrier or previous corporation by the Gov­ Paragraph 17. Applies to receivers and operating trustees; forfeit ernment of the Coiled State~, or any State, county, or municipality, $500 each offense. and the amount of money denved from the sale of any portion of such Paragraph 18. .Attorney General at request of Interstate Commerce grants, and the value of any unsold portion thereof at time acquired Commission to prosecute and secure writs of mandamus. and present time. . Paragraph 19. Amending title as at beginning. Also value of any concession and allowance made by such common :MEMORANDUM OF PARAGRAPHS IN R~ ANSWERING Il'EDERAL-VALUA'fiON cal'L'ier to the Government of the United States. or to any State, county ARGUMENTS. or municipality, in constde•·ation of such aid, gift, grant, or donation. ' .All facts. data, and records used to be in the form of legal evidence Is the appreciation of commodities the deprecia tion of money? adapted to t>ach valuation in an orderly and classified mannet·. so that Changes in rates of wa)!es for substantia ll y a ll ld nds of l111Jor and t hey can be availed of at any time in the future upon any required date in prices of most commodities bas materially alter ed the purchasing or upon the hearings upon tentative values s ubject to review. power of money. From the facts deduce<:l, 1·ec-.> ostruct the present method of accounting Railway rates have not been adjusted to this diminished value ot promulgated bv the Interstate Commerce Commission and formulate a money. [10800 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. - 'JUNE 20,

The lmrolnntary and unsollcitE'd reduction in railway t•ates bas gone .Mr. LEVY. He is.a financial expert; bnt I am not indorsing so far as seriouslv to tbt·eaten the -stability of rnilway wages and rail­ way income. Eighteen hundred and ninety-seven, 15-ton car, New any particular indi~idpal. There are many expert accountants York to Chicago, 10,500 gross. No "Change in class rates. Produces and appraisers in this country. sam(' to-dav. l\Ir. FITZGERALD. That does not mean anything. I know Chicago to New York-basls rates east Mississippi River and north James, l'otumac, and Ohio RIV('l'S. those fellows. More than 40 per cent 7 will pur-chase 20 per cent less labor to-day. 'Valuation of railroad property? An increase In rates fnr to-dav of over ~0 per cent would bart>ly give Mr. LEVY. Because of his ability along that line. the t·oads the same earning power thPy bad 15 :vears ago, and then not make Ufl the unp1·ovidPd-for depreciation alone, sayint; nothing of super­ Mr. FITZGERALD. Has he worked for the railroads? cession and obsolescence or reasonable advance in facilities. Mr. LEVY. I understand by his Teferences that Mr. ·Rand Fuel represented about 11 per cent of cost of operation 15 years ago. bas worked for the stockholders, and rnilroads as well, in many whirb was about , 1 for fuel for each $17.25 of gross eamings, while cases. He has been selected by important interests all over the to-day It takP~ $1 for fuPI ror each $12 of gr·osR recPipts. Taxes bave Increased during past 15 years ovt>r 15 per cent. conn try. Increased cost of regulation owing to increased expenses; costs roads .1\lr. FITZGERALD. Maybe the railroads are trying to put $100,000.000 per year, as follows: up a job on us. 1. Pt·epa1·n tion and puhllcation of rate sc.ilooules. 2. Compilation of stati. tic . 1\Ir. LEVY. My sole object is to correct the e\"ils of the pres­ 3. Litigation under regulatory &tatutes and expens-es. ent system, and one that would be more economiral nnd bring 4. Special appliances. 5. Additional employees and wages, and regulation of hours. th~ >aluation to an early conc-lusion. The Interstate Commerce Revenue bas been reduced by-- Commission is bolding the whole country up for two or three 1. Regulatory o1·ders. ye~r'S on a decision, whereas many of the courts of this country 2. Suggestions wi tb force of orders. ·are not allow~d to withhold a decision o>er GO days; but the 3. Statu tory reductions. Nt>w capital costs more to-day than 15 years ago In inter·est and dis­ withhoJding of the present rate decision by the Interstate Com­ counts owing to lack of seeurity, property bein~ mortgaA"ed to limit n~erce Commission has interfered with the prosperity of the money found only upon basis of surplus from earning, reached through whole country. The eastern rates decision should ha>e been add'tional prefened stock, additional common stock, company notes. decidPd months ago. Interstate Commerce Commission shows rates declined 1tiU7 to 1U07 0.7D8 to 0. TriO mills pet· ton. 4.8!) pet· cent. You have given them more power and they are more extrava­ 'l'he lndilt>ct Joss from withdrawal of confidence in American mil­ gant than any other department of the Go>ernment. road investments would be immeasurable. Such a readjustment would IX. bt'come archaic almost froll;l the outsPt, because tbe adjustment of se­ Mr. l\1A We do -not agree with that. curities basPd upon the value:;. of to-day might be totally erroneous to­ 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. We can not let that statement go un­ morrow unless the value~ were made on modern requirements and challenged. theories and systematically corrected when the elements of value changed through operation. Mr. MOORE. Suppose we spent $5,000,000 to obtain the Present value depends on the highest practicuble nse to which a thing physical >aluation of the railroads of the country, does the may be put. ' gentleman think that, even after we obtained it, it wonld help Now, Mr. Chairman, I want to say under the system us to secure a decrease in the cost of li'dng? we ha>e now in >ogue tt.e cost of making the ·mlnation by 1\Ir. LEVY. I do not. But I wnnt to say that I am not con­ the Interstate Commerce Commission will cost npproximRtely >erted to this proposition. I only wanted to bring it before the $25.000,000, and if continued, as proposed, it will take many House and show the importnnce of it and in comparison with ;rears. Not aione that, but it will cost equally as large a sum the extra>agant system we ha>e now. to the railroads of this country. and this eventually will be paid 1\fr. MOORE. Does the gentleman think we ought to spend for by the people. It is a great and grave mistake to keep on $5,000,000 at all? continuing the system of allowing the Interstate Commerce Com­ Mr. LEVY. No. mission to hold up the whole country. us it is being held up at the Mr. 1\fOORE. How would it decrease the cost of livir/g? present time, by withholding decisions. .M:r. LEVY. I only want to say here that the sy tern we are 1\lr. l\JAN~ r. Will the gentleman yield? going on at the present time, of holding the whole country , The CHAIR'MAX Does the gentleman from ~ew York yield? up and hitting at the business interests of the country, is dis­ I Mr. LEVY. Certainly. astrous. l\1r. MANX. 1 did not understand how much this gentleman Mr. FITZGERALD. 1\Ir. Chairman, this is a matter of Yery says this >nluation can be made for by private contract. vital importance. If there be a doubt in the mind of any hrr. LEVY. My amendment states that it must not exceed other Member of this House, except my colleague, tbnt this S!}.l97.000. Here is Mr. Rand's estimate. He offers to give a work should be done by contr.act rather than under the super­ fully protected contract in his statement, which I have placed in nsion of the Interstate Commerce Commission, I would like the TIECORD. to know it. I shall not object to the amendment. if offered. in 1\lr. FITZGERALD. . But who would take his estimate? order that we can get a vote and find out just what the situa­ ; · Mr. LEVY. He offers to gi\·e security. tion is. : 1\Jr. 1\lA~~ - But who will accept his opinion? Th~ CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of tho 1\Ir. LEVY. It will be done under contract through the Inter­ gentleman from ~ew York [:\fr. LEvY]? [After a pause.} '.rhe state Commerce Commission. Chair hears none. Mr. MANX How can they agree to the contract? The question is on the amendment offered by the gentlemnn Mr. LEVY. They make up the specifications, and the lowest from New York. bidder -gives security for faithful performance of his contract. The question w::~s taken, and the amendment was rejecteu. Mr. M.Al\'N. But who will take this man's opinion as lo the Mr. MOORE. Mr. Chairman. I have collected some letters Talues? and statistics on the subject of the cotton trade, which I would · Mr. LEVY. The T'a1ues they would get by this means are like to extend in the RECORD. And I ask unanimous consent better thnn the Interstate Commerce Commission could secure that I may do that. by f:electing-- · The CHAIIDIA....~. The gentleman from Pennsylvania [1\Ir. l\'1.1·. 1\lA.N~. But who would 1mow whether they were or not? 1\IooRE] asks unanimous consent to extend his remarks in the Mr. LEVY. The lowest bidder would giv~ ample security. REcoRD. Is there objection? Mr. MANN. They could get somebody. to do it for $1 000.000. There was no objection. I could do it in a few minutes for a good deal less than that; The C1erk read as follows~ but when you get it, what good is it? .All puulic spaces resulting from the filling or canals in tho original Mr. FITZGERALD. I could do it for $200.000. city of Washington not now under· the jurisdiction of the Chief ot 1\fr. LEVY. It ·is my purpose to bring before the House the Engineers of tbe United S~ates Army, except such portions as arc included in th,, navy yard or in actual use as roadways and sidewalks, importance of this and see if, in some way or other, we can not and except the portions assigned by law to the District of Colombia a>oid this enormous. extra>agant expense which will be en­ for use as a pr,•perty yard and the location of a sewage pumpin~ st :I.· tailed upon the country for 25 years. tion. respectively. are placed under the jw·isdiction of tbe ChiPf of Engineers of the United States Army and shall be laid out as rescrva· Mr. FIT7.GERALD. Oh, no, tions as a part of the park system of the District of Columuia : 1'1·o· Mr. LE''Y. Under the system proposed, at least 20 years. ,;ided. That in addition to the provision made ll,v St> ction 4 of tbe Ret 1\fr. 1\fAXN. But what people will accept the valuation? Does approved ,July 1. 1898 (Stat. L .. vol. :JO, p . .670), the Chief of Engi· neers of the United States Army shall have autbor·ity to grant per­ the gentleman himself belieYe h.e can give a valuation of the mission to tbe municipal autbor·ities of the District of Columbia or to railroads in the United States? any of the executive departments to occupy temporarily spaces derived l\fr. LE'\-"Y. The purpose is to take the 1owest bidder who is from original canal locations 'When required Ly public necessity or convenience: Provided ftwtller, That a statement of all permits ~ranted au expert in valuation-- from time to time hereunder. shall be annually reported to Congress at Mr. FITZGERALD. What is this man's business? the beginning of c.ach regulnl' session thereof. 11)14. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 10801•

-Mr. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I reserve a point of order on the Mr. MAl\TN. I do not think that is wise. I mnke the point of paragraph. I do not hnye much knowledge concerning this mat­ order on the proviso commencing in line 14 of the paragraph. ter. As to . these public spaces resulting from the filling in o! l\fr, FITZGERALD. It is subject to a point of order. tlle canals in tile original city of Washington, what are tlley? Mr. MANN. I make the point of order on the 1-1roviso. An.U if we turn them oyer to tlle War Department, why should M~. FITZGERALD. If the gentleman would move to strike we then let the War Department turn them over to somebody !t out there would be no opposition. else? Mr. MANN. There is no que tion about its being subject to l\lr. FITZGERALD. There are quite a number of these pub­ a point of order, commencing with the word " provided" in line lic spaces and they are not under the jurisdiction, apparently, of 22 and running down to the end of line 25. nnyone. The District of Columbia has erected some buildings ·Mr. FITZGERALD. If the gentleman will witl;ldraw the on. some of them, and the Department of Agriculture, I belieYe, point of order, I will move to strike that language out. bas erected some buildings on other portions. The Engineer Mr. MANN. Very well. I withdraw the point of order. Department belieYed that it was desirable to have control over Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman; I move to strike out all tllew by some officials of the Government, and, since they had after the word " Columbia," in line 14, to the end of the para­ been utilized in this way, not to interfere with such use as was graph. now being had of them, and if it was desirable to permit other 'I'he CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from New York [Mr. FITZ­ u e. to giye them authority to grant that use. I think that that GERALD] moves to strike out the proviso from line 14 to the end portion of the provision is not of importance. It might be wise of the paragraph. The question is on agreeing to that motion. to re erve the right to Congress to determine whether these The motion was agreed to. spaces shonld be used or not. But there are a number of. them, 1\Ir. TRIBBLE. Mr. Chairman, I ask the privilege of ex­ nnd they should be in the control of some officials of the tending my remarks in the RECORD. Qoyernroent. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Georgia asks unani­ l\Ir. MANN. As to the spaces which are now not occupied by mous consent to extend his remarks in the RECORD. Is there ob­ :my branch of the public service, either the District or other­ jection? wise, I do not see any objection to turning them over to the There wn:s no objection. War Department. But I would not then give the War Depart­ The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. ment authority to turn them over to somebody else. I! they are The Clerk read as follows : made a part of the parks, why should they not remain a part Potomac Park is made a part of the park system or the District of of the parks? The gentleman says that some of these spaces Columbia under the exclusive charge and control of the Chief of Engi­ are now being occupied by the buildings of the Agricultural neers of the United States Army, and subject to 1he provisions of Department. There is no exception in here as to the Agricul­ section 6 of the act approved July 1, 1898 (Stat. L., vol. 30, p. 570). tural Department, I notice. .Mr. 1\fAJ\TN. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on the 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. I was mistaken about the Agricultural paragraph. I did not get time to look it up, but will the gentle­ Department. The buildings I had in mind are in another place. man be kind enough to tell us what are th~ provisions of the act These are the spaces specifically occupied now. of July 1, 1898? Mr. :MANN. Where were the canals, if I may expose my Mr. FITZGERALD. It refers generally to the parking sys­ ignorance and thereby get information? tem of the District. It places all reservations uver a certain Mr. FITZGERALD. I would have difficulty in describing area under the jurisdiction of the War Department, and the them unless I could point them out on a map to the gentleman. President, if I recall correctly, is authorized to make certain '.rhere is one here to the west of the Capitol, if I recall-- rules and regulations for the control of the parks, to which cer­ Mr. :MANN. That was the old Tiber River that ran down tain penalties attach, and it was desired to bring the Potomac there. Park within the purview of that act. l\fr. FITZGERALD. No; it was the canal. Mr. l\IANN. I supposed the Potomac Park was already under 1\lr. GOULDEN. I remember the canal very well. It ran the authority of the President to make regulations. through where the Botanic Garden is and down through the Mr. FITZGERALD. It is; but this act defines the parking Mall, and then down to the river. system and authorizes these regulations as to penalties, and 1\Ir. 1\l.ANN. That was the old river. this item is to prevent nuisances and abuses in connection with Mr. FITZGERALD. What was known as the James Creek the patks. Canal ran down there. Mr. l\IANN. Mr. Chairman, I withdraw the point of order. Mr. 1\IANN. According to that, if the gentleman is correct, it The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Illinois withdraws would turn over the Botanic Garden to the War Department. the ,POint of order. The Clerk will read. .Mr. FITZGERALD. No. The Clerk read as follows : 1\Ir. MANN. That is what this would do. The Chief of Engineers is authorized to permit, at his discretion, boat Mr. FITZGERALD. No; it would not, because the Botanic clubs to erect, maintain, and occupy boat houses in the portion of Garden does not occupy a portion of the spaces that have been Potomac Park east of the railroad embankment, and to provide and maintain lnnding and mooring facilities along the water front; all s-uch filled in. permits to be revocaole at will by the Chief of Engineers and to be 1\lr. MANN. Well, the Botanic Garden is there. I do not conditioned upon the payment of such periodical rates of compensation think it occupies the space, but the gentlemen have testified that as may be fixed by him ; all sums collected herellnder shall be paid into the Treasury, one-half to the credit of the United States and one-half it c~ id. to the credit of the revenues of the District of Columbia: Prodded, Mt·. FITZGERALD. I did not say that it ran through where That thP. said structures and facilities shall be located, built, and the Botanic Garden is. altered only in accordance with such plans and specifications as may be approved by the Chief of Engineers, and that the Chief of Engineers may Mr. MA.NN. It is public property all the way across there. make and enforce such regulations for the maintenance, occupation, and The old Tiber River ran through the Botanic Garden space. use of said ~:.tructures and facilities as be may deem proper : P'rovided I do not think th'lt is where the canal was, but I do not know. ftwtller, That a statement of all permits g.·anted from time to time hereunder shall be annually reported to Congress at the beginning of l\Ir. PAGE of North Carolina. If the gentleman will permit each regul:u· sessio.m thereof. me, I had occasion to run across what wns said to have been this filled-in canal, and it ran from just about the foot of l\Ir. l\.IANN. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order on Capitol Hill, .at this southwest corner, down almost parallel the paragraph. with South Capitol Street, and there is an appropriation in the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Illinois [~fr. MANN] District bill of this year to pave across some broken spaces. reserves a point of order n'1 the paragraph. How long it has been built in I do not know, and I was told by ·Mr. MANN. I would like to ask whether it is the intention the engineer of the District that that was the location of this under this provision to permit buildings to be erected on the canal that is now being discussed here. portion of Potomnc Park lying east of the railroad, along the l\fr. MANN. How could that canal down here west of the northern side of that park? Capitol get down into the navy yard? Ur. FITZGERALD. East of the railroad embankment? Mr. PAGE of North Carolina. I can not explain to the gentle­ Mr. ~IA...l\l'N. East of the railroad on the northern side of the man bow it got there unless it had a very circuitous route ·and park, on the water front there, or the inlet, or whatever it is. went into the A.nacostia River somewhere in the locality. l\Ir. FITZGERALD. On the south side. ~fr. FITZGERALD. The statement was made that the pur­ 1\Ir . .MANN. '.rhe south side is along the Potomac River. pose of these canals was originally to bring stone to the Capitol. Mr. FITZGERALD. That is the place. And these spaces, wherever the canals were-these unoccupied Mr. MANN. The highway runs along there. spaces-do exist, and I think it is desirable to put them under 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. These boathouses, if I understand cor·­ the authority of some one. As to whether it is wise to permit rectly, are not to be built on-- the War Department to give these temporary permits, it may be Mr. MANN. I think the intention would be to put the houses a matter-- on the north side in the so-ca11ed Washington ChanneL 10802 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. ~. JUNE 20, - . Mr. FITZGERALD. No. These boathouses are built on 1\Ir. STAFFORD. The Chief of Engineers of the Army wonld floats. be in control, nnd he would not permit the erection of an un­ Mr. M.AN~:r. And they would be in th~ way of a view to the sightly shanty or shack dowu there at the water front, but would river to anyone walking along there or driving on the Sp~dwny. require buildings in harmony with the locution. Mr. FITZGEHALD. No. The roadway along the rh·er is Mr. l\IA1'\ '. Ever since this pnrk was established everybody consirlerably abo~·e the level of the river. 'This prnctice has been has been trying to grab a slice of it. The Smith~oninn In titu­ followed in other cities; in the city of Nev> York, for instance. tion wants to get a piece of it for an aeronautical laboratory. or along where the SpP.edway is built, they have facilitie where something of that kind, and other people want to get the center these bonthouses are 11ermitted, nnd they have a float con­ of it for their priYate use. necting the boathouses with tl1e land. They are usnally small, Now, here comes a proposition to take the exterior of it for two-storied buHdings where the boats are housed and the upper a boathouse. When a new park is being built everybody wnnts parts of the buildings are used for the install~tion of lockers. to get it for their speeiRl interest. I think these parks onght to ~Ir. 10~DELL. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? be preserverl for the benefit of the people ut large, and thut Mr. l\lA!'IX Yes. exclusiYe privileges ought not to be given to anybody. Mr. l\IO~DELL. I m~y be mistaken, but my understanding is Mr. STAFFORD. This will be for the benefit of fue public thnt they intended to put these boathouses, or make leases for at large. these boathouses. on the Washington Channel side, not on the 1\lr. MANN. Not at all. Potomac River side. l\Ir. STAFFORD. The public can not utilize it without grant­ 1\lr. l\IANX I think it is a bad tiling to do, either way, in ing this permit to some one. a public park. Why should we permit people, because they Mr. FITZGERALD. It has been suggested that permission want to use the water-a Yery laudable desire-to ruin the looks be gh-en to lay out a tennis court, a baseball diamond, and a ot a park that is maintained there for all the people? golf course. .Mr. FITZGERALD. It does not ruin the looks of the park. 1\Ir. 1\!Ai'·IN, And they wanted to lay out a race course. 1\lr. l\lA... TN. Oh. I have seen them, and I know they do. 1\Ir. GOULDEN. They ha 'e got a race course there now. Mr. FITZGERALD. It makes the~Se parks available for pur­ Mr. MANN. Oh, no. poses th:1t they otherwise would not be available for. Nobody l\fr. FITZGERALD. No one has yet suggest~d setting up a can go down east of the embankment on the PotomRc Park unless merry-go-round, but that might be suggested. The pnrpo. e is to he takes a vehicle or takes quite a long walk. If the fncilities proTide facilities wbe1·e people may go mill obtain r-ecreation and were there for tbe bon tho uses, the river could be utilized for exercise under proper supervision. Now, rowing in shells is not boating. and they would add yery much to the attractiveness of such a form of recreation thnt the Go,·ernment could easily the place. supen·ise it. Persons must ha,·e some training and expe-rience, l\Ir. l\JA~TN. I do not see how they would add to the attract­ and it must necessarily be conducted by pri,·ate clubs. This iveness of the plnce. merely gives them an opportunity to locate their house along Mr. SELDO:\IRIDGE. Would these boathouses be similar to the water front. I am in fnTor of what has been suggested. of those on the Schuylkill River, in Fairmount P~u·k, Philadelphia? making that part of the park a great recreation center for the Mr. FITZGERALD. Yes. people of Washington, and to permit no acquisition of exclusive Ur. SELDOMRIDGE. They are quite commonly used in special privileges by any person for selfish purpo~es. parks? 1\Ir: MANN. The gentleman knows that thNe is not in Wash­ l\lr. FITZGERALD. Yes. They add to the attracth:ene s of ington now a single large park where they cater to the man who the park.c:;. does not ride, who does not own an automobile. 1\fr. l\IA~TN . Oh, I have helped to resist this at home so long ~1r. STAFFORD. That is the very purpose of this pro'\'ision. that resistance is a ~econd nature with me. There are plenty of 1\lr. FITZGERALD. I speak for those who, like myself, can places for boatl!ouses. without putting them in the park. If not afford automobiles. they hnve rmy place for boathouses, they ought to be owned by 1\lr. STAFFORD. If the gentleman will permit, be is aware the Go1ernment as a part of the park system and not be under that persons who wish to go rowing at their own expense mnst the control of a elnb. go away out here to Georgetowu to obtain a canoe or boat. ThiS­ l\:1r. I!'ITZGERALD. This provision merely permits these provision will enable the persons whom he describes to be within. bon tho uses to be placed along there. It gives access to the easy acc~ss of the water. river to a great number- of people who wish to utilize it, nnd 1\Ir. MANN. I would have it so that the Government owned it conduce to the hettlth and deYelopment of the people. It is a boathouse there and rented boats ro everybody alike. along the most highly progressive lines of legislation that may 1\lr. FITZGERALD. That is an entirely different mutter. be sugge~ted. l\Ir. STAFFORD. This will permit the association of persons .clr. :\liXS. It is along the line of progressive legislation for rowing-- 1 that the moment yon get a park eYery personal and special in­ Ir. 1\IANN. To grab up a part of the water front. terest: wisbes to grab i't nnd put up a lot of little, cheap, un­ Mr. FITZGERALD. What the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. sightly buildings. They could not put up a permanent building MANN] suggests is an entirely different matter. I h:we n() tllat would be decent :mel appropriate and agreeable to look at, doubt, in time, provision will be m~1de for a boathouse where because the permits would be revocable at will. any person may be able to go and hire a boat in which it will l\Ir. FITZGERALD. Has the gentleman eveJ.• seen a boat4 be safe for a man who does not use a boat more than once in house? six months-- J.Ur. MANN. Oh. yes. Like the gentleman from New Yom, I 1\fr. :MA.~.IN. Like the gentleman from New York and myself. live upon a large body of wate-r. We botb of us live in cities which have water fronts. Mr. FITZGERALD. That is fresh water. Mr. FITZGERALD. In which it will be safe for such a man Mr. MANX Yes; it is fresh water-, and good water. too. It to nangate the waters in front of the city of Washington. This it not tbe filthy liquid that you have around New York Bay. is for a different purpose. I would not suggest rmu would not [Laughter.] wish anybody to induce the gentleman from I1linois [l\lr. MANN) Mr. FITZGERALD. The gentleman has not been to New to make an attempt to go out in a racing shell. York lately. Mr. MANN. Like the- gentleman from New Yorl{ [i\Ir. FITZ• Mr. MANN. No; not as lately as the gentleman has. GERALD], I am light-beaded enough to float. [Lnughter.] Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I think if the gentleman 1\Ir. STAFFORD. The gentleman from Illinois i~ large were fnmilinr with the character of the buildings referred to by enough of girth so that he would float anyway. the gentleman from Colorndo [l\lr. SELDOMBIDGEl, for instance, Mr. 1\lA.NN. I would not be weuzened, like the gent1ell1D.n those ln Fnit·mount Park, Philadelphia, he would not interpose from Wisconsin. any objections to this provision. Coming from a fresh-water l\.lr. FITZGERALD. With my knowlE'dge of what has been country, like myself, he thinks we have no need of those things, done in this regard at other places, I think this is a yery de­ because the water there is too rough for rowing; but the deni­ sirable provision to remain in the bill. However, I ucsire not zens of cities like Philadelphia and New York and Boston hnve. to b'tke. np too much time- on it. ronny onrsrnen and canoeists who have need of such a combina­ l\lr. MO~ TDELL. I think if the gentleman from Illinois [Mr. tion. The character of the buildings that would be used would MANN] would inTestigate th~se matters-- not be of the character snggested by the gentleman, but would Mr. MANN. That remark is entirely unoecessnry. I hnve be of the ornate chnracter of those to be seen in New York. been over to the purk to investigate the mattet\ and I nm ~ure Philadelphia, and Boston. They are permanent and built of stone. that tbe gentleman from Wyoming has not, he not being fttmiliar Mr. MANN. The permits are revocable at will, nnd nobody with bodies of water, anyhow. bnt a crazy man would build a permanent structure there under 1\Ir. l\101\'DELL. The gentleman always knows more ahout such conditions. what some one else has done than they know thenr.:;elve . 1914. CONGRESSION A.L RECORD-HOUSE. 10803

Mr. MANN. That is what every fellow who wants to malte Mr. RAUCH. I can not gh-e the gentleman that information, , a.n argument throw at me. In this particular case I do know I never ha>e eyperienred any inconvenience. more about it than the gentleman from Wyoming does. The CHAIR~lAN. Tile pro forma amendment is withdrawn, Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman says he knows more about and the Clerk will read. the matter than I do; perhaps so. It so hJtppens that I was nt The Clerk rend as follows: Potomac Park last evening, so that my last \isit was quite Commission of Fine Arts: To mef't the expenses made necessary by tb.e act approved May 17. 1010, entitlf'd "An act f'i'tabllshing a Com­ recent. The gentleman has said that there are plenty of places mission ot Fine Arts." including the purcbase of periodicals, mups, and where boathouses could be built and where boats could be book~ of refl.'rence, to be disbursed, on vouchers appt·oved by the com­ moored, adjacent to Washington. Evidently the gentleman has misston, by the offict>r in charge of public buildings and grounds, who shall be the secretary and s,ball act as the executive officer of said not investigated that matter, and I ha\e, because I enjoy boat­ commission, $5,000. ing; and I wouid be •ery glad to find some place where I could 1et a boat kept, so that I could hnve a small boat within easy Mr. FOSTER. :Mr. Chairman, I mo•e to strike out the reach. The fact is, you must either go to Georgetown or else paragraph. This Fine Arts Commission bas been in existence you must go across the river to the vicinity of Alexandria. It a good wbjJe. It has been contendoo that it hns cost the Go•ern• is tt·ue there is a very limited space down near the old fish mar­ ment a great deal of money. I do not know whether the people ket where there is a boat club. but that space is very limited have realized the benefit from tbe amount of money thnt has and it is entirely filled up and utilized. been expended in the change of IJlans for the beautifying of Washington has a magnificent water front. There ought to be Washington or not. n great deal of boating here, very much more than there is. l\Ir. MANX The gentleman wi11 remember that the Commis­ One reason why there is not more is because there never have sion of Fine Arts is not the so-caned Burnham Commission that been sntisfnctory fncilities placed within easy reach wbere peo­ proposed plans for beautifying Washington. This is not that IJ1e could keep their bonts. Now, this peninsula, reaching out commission. into the river. is peculiarly adapted for that sort of use, and .Mt·. F'OSTER. No; this has to do with monuments, statues, lt will in no wise in.1nre it or affect it for other purposes to so and public bnlldings. · use it. It will encourage boating in the city. It wm give the 1\fr. 1\lANN. We passed a law a few years ago. to which refer­ gentleman fYom Lake Michigan an opportunity to keep a boat or ence is made . in this parngraph. providing th:1t monuments, hire a bont or Recure a boat without going a great distan<'e, and statues, and e>erything of that kind. or plans. should be sub­ to enjoy a boat on the water adjact-nt to the city best adapted to mitted to the Commission of Fine Arts before they "ere boating; and I hope he will ned; and they have submitted a lot of things to that com­ M1·. MANX I make the point of order a~ainst the item. mission on the Panama Cannl-some of them perbnps profit­ The CH.A IRMAN. The point of order is sustained. The ably and some of them an unnecessary expense to the no'"ern­ Clerk will read. ment. But if you nbolish the appropriation, leaYing the law the The Clerk read ns follo-.vs: way it is. it would not be possible to carry into effect many Toward the wnstructlon of necessary retaining walls 11l Meridian Hill acts of Congress. because the department can not proceed iu a Fark. $25,000. good many things until the matters have been submitted and Mr. l\IANN. Mr. Chairman, I mnke a point of order ngainst appro>ed by this Commission of Fine Arts: lliat is, where the fhat item. approval is cnlled for by specific aets of Congress. Mr. RAUCH. Mr. Chairman, this is an appropriation for a l\1r. FOSTER. The law provides that before any stah1es continuation ot work necessary to the presen-ation and upkeep can be erected they must be submitted to the Fine Arts Com­ of this park, which was recently bought and paid for by the mission? United States Go>ernment. The committe~ do not think the Mr. ]')!ANN. That is my recollection. item is ~nbject to n point of order. Mr. FOSTER. So if the appropriation should go ont, they The CHAITIMA~. The ChaL would like to hear the gentle- could not do the work. man from I11inois [Mr. UANN]. Ur. 1\IA{\X. They could not do the work. That was the Mr. M~~N. The committee have not produced any authority McCall bill. thnt passed Congress se>eral years ago. for thiR item, and it is necessary to obtnin nuthority. ~here is Mr. FOSTER. Then I do not want to interfere with it. no authority that J know of anywhere for an appropriation for Otherwise I wouPd like to see it go out. these ret:Bining walls. It is the duty of th -:: Committee on Ap­ Mr. M.A~N. I was not enthusiastically in fn•or of the McCnll propriations to furnish the authority, because they propose the bill when it passed the Bouse furee or four yea1·s ago, but still item. it passed Congress after considerable discussion. Mr. FOSTER. I am not with the Appropriations Committee 1\lr. FOSTER 1\fr. Chairman, I withdraw the motion. on this. I should like to see this go out, but I thought. there The Clerk read as follows: being a park there, that the impro>ement should be made. Memorial to Gen. IDysses S. Gront : . For unveiling and dedicating Mr. MAl\~. Here is an item for a retairnng wall. I make the memorjal to Gen. Ulysses S. Grant and for each and evPry purpose the point of order. It is not my duty to prcduce authority for connected therewith, including erectin~ and taking down viewing stands it. I can not do that. I do not think there is any authority u.nd putting the grounds in slgbtly conaltion, $o,OOO. for it. l\lr. STAFFORD. 1\Ir. Chairman, I move to 13trike out the 'The CHAIRMAN. The point of order is sustained. The Clerk last word. I want some information for the benefit of the will read. Members ot the House as to who has charge of ceremonies The Clerk rend as follows: attendant on the unveiling of various statues dedicated in the Telegraph to connect the CaPitol with the departments and Govern­ ment Printing Office. For care and repair of existing lines, $500. city from time to time. Like a good mnny :Members of the House, about a month ago I attended the um·eiling of the Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I moYe t.> strike out the statue erected to Commodore John Barry. Personally I bad last word. I am curious to know what telegraph lines are no feeling b€cause I wns not given a seat in the- resen-ed section owned by the GoYernment connecting the Capitol with the where the Senators and their wives. the diplomats and their various departments. wives, and the President and members of the Cabinet were Mr. RAUCH. All the departments are connected with each seated. but I rud have a feeling of humilintion as a Member other and witb the Gon~rnment Printing Offiee. of this House to see our great Speaker, second in position in Mr. STAFFORD. With telegraph or telephone lines? control of this Government. seated with .Members away distant Mr. RAUCH. I think the Senate has a telegraph line. Mr. MANN. I think they have abolished it as we have abol­ from the speaking stand and not given the privilege of a seat with the other dignitaries on the special platform. I think it I ished it. This is an old item, and think ought to go out of was a humiliation to the House. I do not say tllat the Speaker the bill. was not thoroughly nt home in his surroundings nnd did not Mr. RAUCH. I think it is still in operation on the Senate like the seat given him, but I believe it was a slight on this side. Chamber. The Speaker should not ha>e been assigned a seat Mr. MANN. It may be in operation from the Government Printing Office \ery likely. Does the gentleman happen to remote from th~: others engaged in the ceremonies on that ocec'l­ ban" a statement showing bow much wns expended last year? sion. When we nbolisbed the two telegraph clerks which. we bad on Mr. BURKE of . Will the gentleman yield? the Bouse side of the Capitol nt an expense of $1.000 or $1.200 Mr. STAFFORD. Yes. each, there was n good deal of tnlk about how incom·enient it Mr. BVRKE of South DakotlL Did I understnnd the ge:o,­ would be for MPmbers of Congress. I wonder if anybody here tleman to say that be was present at the ceremonies? has ever been incon'l'ernenced. I think during my service in Mr. STAl!'FORD. I was. with a great number of other the House I never sent or received .a telegram in that way, a nd Members of the Bouse. The House adjourned at 2 o'clock in I wonder if anybody else ever did. the afternoon for that purvose. 1}0804 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. JUNE 20,

l\lr. BURKEl of South Dakota. Did the gentleman have a Mr. STAFFORD. Oh, we are on display here so much that seat? we do not care to be put in the spotlight. , . .Mt·. STAFFORD. I did. Mr. FITZGERALD. I was very grateful to receive a ticket, l\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. How did he obtain it? in order that I might by my presence attest the esteem in which 1\Ir. STAFFORD. Through the courtesy of my colleague I hold the memory of John Barry. [Mr. MANN]. 1\lr. 1\f.A.NN. ,The gentleman from New York knows that the Mr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, the committee sent every ·Mem­ gentleman from Wisconsin [Mr. STAFFORD], the House having ber of Congress n statement telling when the ceremonies were adjourned early, attended these exercises instead of going to a to be had and asking whether the Member desired a seat; and much more exciting affair, and kicked himself all of the time if so, how many. I attend to such things, or Mrs. Mann does that he was at the exercises because he was not at the ball for me, and I receh·ed my seats. game. His feeling in the matter is excusable and perfectly, . 1\fr. BURKE of South Dakota. I received the communica­ natural. tion that the gentleman from illinois refers to. There was a Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I want to say to my friend statement that a reply must be made by the 4th day of May, that, as I recall, there was no ball game on that afternoon; and and I wrote to the official who it was stated would furnish me if there was, I preferred the unveiling exercises. I had a very a ticket. I think his name was Col. Harts, and his street and good seat; but I do protest against those who had charge of nurnber.given. I requested that I be furnished with tickets, but these exercises shunting off into an· obscure corner the Speaker I received no response to my communication and did not re­ of the House of Representatives, and not giving him a prefer­ ceive tickets. ential seat in the select stand. Mr. STAFFORD. I am not finding fault with the treatment Mr. DO NOVAN. 1\fr. Chairman, a parliamentary inquiry. accorded Members of the House, but I t:.o say that the person Are we under the five-minute rule? who had charge of the exercises ought to have given greater The CHAIRMAN. We are. consideration to the second officer . in the control of this Gov­ Mr. DO NOV AN. What bas become of the watch? [Laughter.] ernment, the Speaker of this House, than to assign him a seat Mr. FITZGERALD. Do not search me-search the gentleman at a distance from the ceremonies in the broiling sun of a hot from Connecticut. [Renewed laughter.] afteruoon. I do nof make any complaint at the instance of The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Wis­ the Speaker. But from the dignity of the position he occupies, consin has expired. I felt humiliated that the second officer of the Government Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent $hou1d be slighted in that manner. that the gentleman may be permitted to proceed for two 1\fr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield for a minutes more. guestion? The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? 1\fr. STAFFORD. Certainly. There was no objection. Mr. MANN. Does not the gentleman think that the Speaker Mr. MO~"DELL. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman understands of this Huuse attending ceremonies of that kind would prefer that where sits McGregor there is the head of the table, and to have a seat where the other Members of the House were that wherever the honored Speaker of this House sat, that given seats rather than to be segregated and set off by himself seat, by reason of that fact, was the seat of honor at those in a place of small seating capacity? ceremonies. I think, therefore, there should be no complaint. Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, the great commoner who Mr. STAFFORD. We so consider it was the seat of honor presides over this House naturally felt more at home where he when it was occupied by the Speaker, but there was a proper was, but we were scattered everywhere. Being the second place for the Speaker of this House, and that was in the officer in this Government, the Speaker of the House of Repre­ reserved section. sentatives, the proper place for him was beside the President 1\fr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Speaker, I offer the following and the Secretary of State and the other dignitaries who at­ amendment, which I send to the desk and ask to have read. tended the ceremony. I am asking for information as to who The Clerk read as follows: has charge of these ceremonies. Page 73, line 1, strike out the words "memorial to Gen. Ulysses S. Mr. RAUCH. Mr. Chairman, I will state to the gentleman Grant." that the unveiling ceremonies of this memorial to Gen. Grant Mr. FITZGERALD. That is an unnecessary repetition. wi1l be in charge of the War Department. • Mr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the gentle­ 1\fr. STAFFORD. Were the ceremonies in connection with man when these exercises are to take place, as far a.s is now the unveiling of the statue of Commodore Barry under the known? supervision of the War Department? 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. My recollection is that the statement 1\fr. RAUCH. I understand they were. was made that they would probably be ready for them in 1\Ir. 1\f.A.NN. Mr. Chairman, I think these ceremonies are all September. held under the jurisdiction of the engineer officer in charge of Mr. MANN. Of this year? public buildings and grounds in the city of Washington, who Mr. FITZGERALD. Yes. i~ now Col. Harts, one of the best officers in the Army, and a Mr. MANN. I trust that Congress will not be in session at very efficient officer in this capacity, who succeeded Col. Cosby. that time, although I had hoped these exercises might occur Mr. STAFFORD. Does not the gentleman from Illinois be­ when Congress was in session. lieve that the Speaker of this House should have a seat beside 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, the statement was made the President of the United States and the other dignitaries that the contract callg for completion of everything by August rather than to be seated in a remote station? 10 of this year, and it is expected that the memorial will be Mr. l\I.A.NN. Oh, Mr. Chairman, I have noticed all of ruy completed then. I therefore assume that the ceremonies will life that when it comes to arranging for ceremonies of thi~ kind be held in September. a great many people who did not get the best seats thought Mr. BRITTEN. Will the gentleman yield for a question? that they or some one else who did not get the best seats-and Mr. FITZGERALD. Certainly. no one can tell in advance where the best seat will be-was 1\fr. BRITTEN. Does the gentleman think the fence around not treated with proper dignity; but, of course, these people the Botanic Garden will have been removed by that time? endeavor to treat with dignity and great courtesy the Members Mr. FITZGERALD. No; it will not. We do not wish it re­ of Congress. My observation is that on all of these occasions moved by that time. They expect so very large an attendanra it is the people who are outside of Congress who have the best upon this unveiling that it is believed to be a desirable thing right to complain, because Members of Congress get the seats--­ to have that fence up there in order to facilitate policing ar­ usually the best-and then generally give the ticket to some one rangements and to control the crowd. else to use. 1\fr. BRITTE~. However, it is the intention to remove that :Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I wish to say that on that fence as quickly as possible thereafter? occasion, at least, anyone attending those ceremonies would Mr. FITZGERALD. Yes. About two or three years ago wo have observed that not one Representative was in the select sec­ made four attelllpts to give it away. tion which bad a canopy over it, but that they were distributed 1\fr. MANN. Not two or three years ago; it was eight or ten throughout the other two sections in the blazing sun, and the -years ago, I guess. ' members of the Cabinet, the Diplomatic Corps, the orators of The question was taken, and the amendment was agreed to. the occasion, and the Senators and their wives were all given, The Clerk read as follows : as they should be, special seats in the segregated section. · Mr. HAMILTON of Michigan. Oh, the sun did not blaze on Arlington Memorial Amphitheater: For beginning the construction, under the direction of a commission consl sti n~ of the Secretary of War, that day. the Secretary of the Navy, and Superintenaent of the United States 1\lr. FITZGNRALD. I am inclined to think that that was Capitol Building and Grounds, Ivory G. Kimball, representing the Grand done purposely, so that everybody could have an opportunity to Army of the Republic, and Charles W. Newton, representing the United Spanish War Veterans, of a memorial amphitheater, Includin~ a chapel, see the Members of the House. at the National Cemetery at Arlington, Va., and in accoraance with 1914 .. CONGRESSIONAL REOORD--liOUSN.. 10805

the plans of Carrere & Hastings. architects. of. New y;ork City, adopted thRt it by the commission heretofore appointed, $2f.i0,000. . Mr. ST.AFE'ORD. I was.fearful penhnps might-be· used m another body as a handle on wbiab. to hlUJg1 a gre'.-.lt man$ Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I offer the following otfum claims arising through· floods when the· United St;ltes. is-in amendment. no. waY1· r.esponsible: That is the-nurpose of my;. in-q~iry. How­ '.fhe CHAIRl\IAN. The Clerk will renort the amendment. ever, I w1thdraw the point of order, Mr. G:Jmirmuu,_on the assul!­ The Clerk rend as follows: ance-- of the gentleman· frow Indiana On page 73, after line- 21, Insert the following: The Clerk read as follows : " Hot·s esbue Battle Ground, Ala..: For the erection of a memortaf to the m<'n who fou ~ht under Gen. Andr~w Jackson in the battle at Survey. of nortl1ern and northwestern 1akt>S~ For survey of northern: th(' fforseshoe on the Ta Uapoosa Riv€1·, Afa-;, authorized by the act and northwestem lakes, Lake Champlain, and the natural navigable approved April 2, 1!)14, $5,000." w~ '.:ers embraced in. the. navigation system of tbe 1ew York ('anals. ln­ ~ludin.~ a!1 necess~ry erpenses for prepat"in ~. corr<'Cting. e;ct'{'ndln~. print­ )f r. ~:IA.NN. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a noint; of ordeu nntil mg. bmdmg, and Issuing charts and buiJ('tlns. and of in'l'estigatina lake I cnn. hear the gentleman from .Alabama make a nonpa:rtisa-n levels- with. a view· to their regulation, 125,000. o I'PeE'ch on this- subject. :Mr. SPARKMAN. Mr. Chairman. I reserve-the point of order Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairmnn-- on this paragraph, a11d I would li k·~ to ask the- g~ntleman· in Mr. 1\IANN. I said the gentleman from Alabama [i\fr. <·barge of- the bill atr tho present time what kind· of a· survey is lliFLilfl. I want the gentleman from Alabama to explain this. this to be-? · Mr. HEFLIN. Mr. Chairma~ . I always make a nonpartisa-n speecb-- Mr. RAUCH. Mr. Chairman, I am informed thatr the old 1\fr. MANN. On this subject; not any other. surveys are obsolete, and thi.s is for deep-draft vessels on the :\!r. HEFLIN. Mr. Chairman, I did nofl think it was- neces­ Jak-es. It is a hydrographic survey. - 1\Ir-. SPARKUAN. We11, if it is for the purpose of' naviga-­ s:try to have any further legislation on this subjeet. A. bill· was passed through this House· and my good nonpartisun.: friend tion, then there is nothing. upon which to base this appropria.~ I from Illinois [l\fr. hlANN] helped me to pru:;s- it through. the tion. understand, ·of course, that there· have been items cnr.. Hou e. It passed the Senate unanimously and was approved ried in the sundr·y civil bill for many y;enrs, and perhaps in by the Presiuent, but when we were making ready t(); lay the other bills, providing for surveys of the lakes up there, not for cornerstone upon the battle ground at the Horseshoe Bend we the pm·pose of navigation. how.ever, but for other purposes. discovered that the War Department bad ruled that. it would· Now·, I hav:e not any of those old provisions before me, but take a specific appropdation in one of these a.pproprlation. Wlls this provision seems to go a little further than the others, as I and held that the bill which we passeffi did nut speeifi Fourth of .Tuly, arul I could tion for anything that goes into the sundr-y· civiL bill; otherwi et deliver them here if I hnd the time, but it would take perhaps an appropriation is not permissible. an hmnr and a half to do so, and I will' not take up the time of Mr. 1\I.ANX This has been under the jurisdiction of this 1ill! Hou_se now. I appreciate the exp~essed desire o:L my friend committee fo1 many years. The gentleman will recall thn1: some to hear me on th~ Bnttle of the HorReshoe Bend. years- ago there was a hot fight in. :his Bouse as to whether The question was taken. and the amendment was a:gr.eed:. to. these people had jurisdiction or the Hydrographic Office of the The Clerk rend as- follows: ~~avy had jurisdjction of these matters, and it was held at that . Tbe Secretary of War is author1z:e~ upon finding that the flood con.- time by the chairman and by._ the HOuse, afrer a.. hot. fight, tliat ditions wblcb prevailed in the Ohio Valley in Marcb.. 1913, destroyed that item was in order on this bill. the property of any les!';ee from the United States of land m· water !-Ir. SPaRKMAN. What directed ..,.,v attention particularly power. or both, on the :Muskingum Ri er, or- so damaged the same as ...... , to prevent tbe benetlcial use o! the ptemises so leased. upon: application to the provision was t:t.e uoo of the words· "Lalre Champl<-lin." of the le. see, to t<'rminnte the least>- as of the- dnte of the destruetion · Oi' I di:i not think. they had. bee embraced in any of. the- nro~isions damage of sucb property of tbe lessee, or to abate the rental for such time· and in Ruch amount as may represent' the- loss of the benE-ficial use heretofore. of the premises so leased berause of such flood conditions. Any lessee 1\tr: MlkNN~ T1utt is in the existing law. who shall have paid. to the United States aoy such rental in respect of Mr. RAUCH. I think this provision would be in order_, any.. which relief is hereby authorized shall have the amount so paid. refunded way. by the accouniing officers of the Trea-sury upon a findin!r by the- Sec- retary of War that be is entitled to the same. The amount neces!'>ary ' Mr. SPA.RK.."\fA.N. I do not think so, unltSS the1e is some ex- to make all such reimbursements, not exceeding $500, i& app-ropriated. isting law on which to. bnse it. But still I take. the statement of Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order. the gentleman for the fueL I wi h to inquire whether there can be any other claims of a Mr. ST.Aill'H'ORD. Mr. Cl:airman, I move to otrike out the lik--e character to those covered by th.e paragraph under con.,. last word. I understand. these surveys are limitea to the Great sideration. Lakes and tributaries, like: the Niagara River and. the St. Law- lllr. RAUCH. Mr. Chairman,. I. am. infoi'IIl-ed that those w.i:lJ L"ence: Riven? probably no1l amount to more than $2{}(), and that thes_e are the !t!r. RAUCH. That is right. only cluims of this character. Mr.. STAFFORD. And this coes n_~L provide for sarveys of .IU.r. STAFFORD. The gentleman. recognizes it is a. purely lakes exclusively within the State.Unes? private claim and has no place in an appropriation bill• and ]} l\lr. RAUCH~ '-Chat is my information. was fearful that this might be used as a peg on· which to han()' The CHAJRllAN. The Clerk will read. a great number of other claims that might amount to a tre~ The• Clerko ~ead, as follows: mendous sum. ~'or purchase and installation of a . boilel." on the patrol boat Scout 1\Ir. MANN. If the gentleman will permit, it is-not quite on to be expended by and unt"k!r the. direction of.. the Hecretal'Y· of War, and all fours with· an ordina.ry private claim. As L understand. the to be immediately available, $9,000; in all, $94,260. Government owns water power there an.d the- water powe-r was- Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, I wish to move to shike leased. When the flood came it destroyed the buildincrs of the- cut. the last. word. I wish: to inquire whether in any other city lessee, and in some places probably destroyed the waterepowe1·, I of the counh-y except New York City we make a similar provi­ suppose, and this proposition :is simply to remit the rental of sion for this character of supervision and control? these people whose buildings were destroyed, in conuection with t Mr. RAUCH. We do. not. ..l~O other city is situated as this the u e of tile water power, by that :flood. They· are rrot making; 1 one. use of the water po~er now. ~STAFFORD. Why, does the National GoYernment nnder- Mr. RAUCH. This refunds some rentals th~y were- obliged t~ take· wollli o:f. this c]l..'ll-acter, which i declines to perform in pay under the terms of the· lease. 1 other large maritime cities on the coast? ~0806 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--· HOUSE~ JUNE 20,

Mr. .1\IANN. There is a special law en that subject in refer­ Mr. ANTHONY. That was the original idea of the Jaw. ence to New York Harbor, which I have been hoping we might Mr. FOSTER. Can the gentleman give us any ide..'l, or state get extended to Chicago Harbor and generally. I have intro­ whether it is true or not that this money is regularly spent for duced two bills on the subject~one for Chicago Harbor and one the benefit of these inmates? general in its provisions. Mr. ANTHONY. Very largely it is. ,For instance, the man­ Mr. STAFFORD. The purpose of my inquiry was. that there agers provide amusements, theatricals, baseball games, bands, was a possibility of receiving these services, and I would like to and things like that for the amusement of the members. That bave them extended to my own city and Chicago and other was the original purpose of the expenditure of this money. citi~ . Now, they have strayed from that so that they expend it for 1\Ir. 1\fANN. So far as that is concerned, there is a special the construction of a building. For instance, the manngers of law authorizing this work to be done. the home can expend $10,000 for the erection of a building fot· Mr. STAFFORD. I withdraw the pro forma amendment. some favored employee, if they want to give him a building. The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. l\Ir. FOSTER. Does the gentleman mean a residence? The Clerk read as follows: 1\Ir. ANTHONY. A residence for an official of the home. NATIONAL HOME FOR DISABLED VOLUNTEER SOLDIERS. Mr. FOSTER. And as high as $10,000? Fot· support of the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, Mr. ANTHONY. I will not say that exact amount; but he as follows: could expend $6,000 or $8,000 or $10,000-along there-perhaps, Central Branch, Dayton, Ohio : Current expenses: For pay of officers l't.fr. FOSTER. It seems to me a strange thing that thi:.i and noncommissioned officers of the home, with such exceptions as are hereinafter noted, and their clerks, weighma.sters, and orderlies; also should be permitted. payments for chaplains, religious instruction, and entertainment for Mr. ANTHONY. It is. the members of the home, printers, bookbinders, librarians, musicians, 1\Ir. FOSTER. Can the gentleman give us some idea of about telegraph and telephone operators, guards, janitors, watchmen, · and fire company; for all property and materials purchased for their use, bow much, for instance. for building a residence? Does the gen­ including repairs not done by the home; fot· necessary expenditures for tleman know what they do? articles of amuseme~nt, library books, magazines, papers, pictures, and 1\Ir. ANTHONY. There have been no expensive residences musical instruments, and for repairs not done by the home ; and for stationery, advertising, legal advice, for payments due heirs of deceased constructed at any of the homes in recent years. Those that members: Pt'01Jided, That all receipts on account of the effects ot have been constructed out of this fund are buildings that cost deceased membet·s during the fiscal year shall also be available for such three or four or five thousand dollars. payments; and for such other expenditures as .can not properly be in­ cluded under other heads of expenditures, $61,000. Mr. FOSTER. Three or four thousand dollars? Mr. ANTHONY. Yes. Mr. Al\"!THONY. Mr. Chairman, I desire to make a point of 1\Ir. FOSTER. .A building for the use of some official in the order against all in line 17, page 79, after the word "Provided," home? and the balance of the paragraph. It is a change of existing Mr. AJ.~THONY. Some employees of the home. law. Mr. FOSTER. Now, this fund is derived from the inmates Mr. RAUCH. I will say that this is in accordance with exist­ who die without relatives and have some property, is it not? ing law, and bas been carried in this appropriation bill for a Mr. ANTHONY. Yes; it is from the sale of the effects of .humber of years in this exact language. It is not, in the opinion deceased members who have no heirs. ()f the committee, subject to a point of order. I think in just 1\Ir. FOSTER. Does it also take the accrued pensions? a minute or two I can produce the law under which this appro­ Mr. ANTHONY. Yes; it takes the accumulated pension as priation is made. well. Mr. ANTHONY. I want to make a short statement. The Mr. FOSTER. That is, they take from the soldier a certain existing law provides for what is calJed the " post fund " ; amount of his pension, and this goes into the fund, and on his that is, the amount that is rea1ized from the proceeds from the death, if there are no heirs, the money remains in this fund? effects left by deceased members of these homes. As the Mr. ANTHONY. The gentleman is correct. original law stipulates, that money is to be expended for the Mr. FOSTER. What I supposed this was intended for was to benefit of all the members of the home. Heretofore it has afford some little extra pleasures, and so forth, for the inmates been expended largely for the amusement of members of the of the borne. home, but an abuse has grown up in recent years under this Mr. ANTHONY. I will say to the gentleman that that was language wherein this money is expended for other purposes the original purpose in the creation of this fund, and it was the than contemplated originally by the law. It has been expended manner in which the money was originally expended. ·Now, it for the purpose of making up shortages and deficiencies in other is not only expended for construction but the Government in­ appropriations. That is the reason I made the point. spector, who inspected the Western Branch· last year, found 1\fr. STAFFORD. Will the gentleman yield? that about $8,000 out of the post fund at that branch was Mr. ANTHONY. I will. expended for the purchase -of fuel oil in excess of what was Mr. STAFFORD. Has the gentleman any acquaintance with appropriated for by Congress in this bill. the administration of this same fund in other branch homes Mr. FOSTER. Can the gentleman give us some idea as to besides the one referred to here-that at Dayton? how late or up to what time they have been spending these Mr. ANTHONY. Yes; I have. funds for the building of residences on the grounds, and so Mr. STAFFORD. Does the gentleman's criticism apply to all forth? the homes? Mr. ANTHONY. I have not the information at hand, but-­ Mr. ANTHONY. It applies to all the homes. I observe that, Mr. FOSTER. Has it been within the last few years? reading from the report of the board, they are expending this . Mr. ANTHONY. Yes. It has been within the last few years. money for purposes that Congress ought to appropriate for, Mr. FOSTER. Did I understand the gentleman to say that whereas Congress originally intended that the money realized they have bought fuel out of this ·fund? from deceased members should be used for the amusement or Mr. ANTHONY. They have. The Government inspector, common benefit of their surviving comrades. That was the pur­ Maj. ·Jackson, detailed by the Secretary of War, in his report pose of the law; but instead of that, and in pursuance of the to Congress called specific attention to the fact that fuel oil to present policy, the money is used to make up a deficiency of fuel the amount of $8,000 was purchased at the Leavenworth Branch at one time and construct a building at another, and the money out of the post fund, notwithstanding the fact that the board of is expended without any responsibility to the Congress. I think managers had already come to Congress for a deficiency of there may be $150,000 or $200,000 in that .post fund now, and the $6,000 in addition to the amount regularly appropriated for that president of the board, under the present condition, is able to purpose. take that money and use it for anything be pleases, without Mr. FOSTER. When was that done? consulting Congress or anybody else and without responsibility. 1\Ir. ANTHONY. That was done last winter. I do not think the expenditure is proper. Mr. FOSTER. That was done in order to keep from coming Mr. FOSTER. Will the gentleman yield? , to Congress for a· deficiency? Mr. ANTHONY. I will. Mr. ANTHONY. For a second deficiency. In my opinion it is Mr. FOSTER. Do I tmderstand the gentleman to say that an actual violation of law, for which the officials who did that from this fund which is created under this proviso of the bill should be held responsible. the governor of a soldiers' home can use money for any purpose Mr. FOSTER. Is that the same sort of precedent that has he ~ ees fit? · been followed for years in reference to this fund? l\fr. ANTHONY. The bonrd of managers can do so, and that Mr. ANTHONY. I thinl~ the abuse has been going on for a · means that one man, the president of the board, does it. number of years. From the desire of the · managers to avoid Mr. FOSTER. Now, as to this money th~t goes into the fund, coming to Congress and asking an increase of certain appropria­ he expends that in his judgment for the benefit of _the inmates tions they have been raiding this fund and depriving the sold!ers of the home? of the amusements that that money would purchase. 1914. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 10807

Mr. FOSTER.· So that it started in and has been _gradually receipts on account of the effects of de~eased members. Now, increasing the misuse of this fund aside from the original in­ in the sundry civil bill approved August 18, 1894, is the follow­ tention? ing provision : Mr. ANTHONY. Yes. My objection to that is that it is an That the balance of the posthumous fund, including the amount in­ vested in bonds pertaining to that fund, that may be in the hands of the expenditure of money without any authority of law. I think treasurer of any bt·anch of the home on July 1, 1894. snail be transferred every dollar of expenditure at these homes s-hould be authorized to the appropriation for "Current expenses, 1895," of that branch by Congress. When the money is taken out of the post fund-or home- . the posthumous fund-in this manner Congress knows nothing If the Chair will now follow the language of the provision, I whatever about it. will read further- Mr. FOSTER. I understand that this proviso proposes to add and thereafter all receipts on account of the effects of deceased members to tllese expenses provided above. Is that it? shall be credited to the appropriation for " cunent expenses " of the fiscal year during w.hich such amounts were received, and all repayments 1\fr. ANTHONY. Yes. It authorizes them to make these of such amounts shall be made from and charged to the like appropria­ expendi trn·es. tion for the fiscal year in which such repayments shall be made. Mr. FOS'rER. But the gentleman's contention is that this. So that the language in the pending bill is strictly in con­ fund was created as a fund for the personal benefit of the in- formity with the law crediting to the appropriation for "current mates? · expenses" for the current year the receipts from the sale of the Mr. ANTHONY. I contend that this fund should be used for effects of deceased members. the common benefit of the men for their amusement, for some Mi·. ANTHONY. I should like to ask the gentleman if he doe.~ extra things for their welfare. not think it would be a better business method for Congress to The CHAIRMAN. Will the gentleman from Kansas [Mr. appropriate directly the money required for the expenses of the ANTHONY] please indicate the line upon which he makes the homes rather than to authorize in this manner the expenditure point of order? of money from funds of this klnd? Would it not be better to 1\Ir. ANTHONY. The entire proviso. It controverts the orig- have these special funds go into the General Treasury? inal statute creating the post fund. · :Mr. FI'l'ZGERALD. Yes; it would be a good deal better. It The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman would not want to strike would require some changes in connection with the control of out the " $61.000 "? certain funds connected with the National Soldiers' Homes; but Mr. .ANTHONY. No; not the amount of the appropriation, the gentleman from Kansas [l\fr. ANTHONY] is a member of the but simply the language of the proviso. · Committee on 1\Iilitary Affairs, which has jurisdiction over the Mr. FITZGERALD. Does the gentleman make a point of legislation ori these mutters, and his inquiry might more prop­ order on it? erly be raised in that committee rather than addressed to me, 1\Ir. ANTHONY. Yes. because the Committee on Appropriations can only appropriate 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. On what ground? in accordance with the existing law. The CHAIRl\IAN. The gentlemnn from Kansas makes a 1\Ir. .ANTHONY. I will say to the gentleman that the board point of order on the proviso, beginning on line 17, page 79, and of managers have every year been making a report of conditions ending with the word " expenditures" on line 21. at the homes, and that report has come to Congress. rl'he 1\Ir. ANTHO:NY. On the ground of its being contrary to Speaker refers that report to the Committee on Military Affairs, existing legislation. of which I am a member, and the report is duly buried there. Mr. FITZGERALD. The eentleman from Kansas has been Nobody ever sees it. This year is the first time in the history of talking about one fund nnd this refers to an entirely different that committee, as I understand it, that that report has ever fund. There is a post fund and a posthumous fund. He ha·s been brought to the attention of the committee. · been talking about the post fund. A few years ago the Com­ Mr. FITZGERALD. That is due to the fact that there has mittee on Appropriations conducted nn investigation-- been a change in the House. The report was duly buried in 1\Ir. ANTHO~Y. Will the gentleman permit a question? that committee during the 16 years that the gentleman's party l\Ir. FITZGERALD. Let me make a statement, please. was in control of the House; but now, since the Democratic Mr. ANTHONY. Is not the post fund an abbreviation of the Party has had control of the House, when this report went to posthumous func ? the Committee on Military Affairs under the able direction of 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. No; it is au en.tirely different thing. the distinguished chairman of that committee [1\Ir. HAY], in­ The Committee on Appropriations made an investigation, in stel].d of the report being pigeonholed, as it formerly was. ac- · which it brought out facts which it believed constituted an cording to the statement of the gentleman from Kansas, that abuse of the so-called post fund. 1\ly recollection is, for in­ committee has perforrr:ed its duty of examining that report, and stance, that a memorial arch was erected in honor of a gov­ I assume will recommend-- ernor of one of the homes at one particular branch. 1\Ir. ANTHONY. Let me say to the gentleman right ther~ The post fund originated, "if I recall the facts correctly, 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. No; you will not say it right there. directly from the canteen. Paragraph 472 of article 15 of the 1\fr. ANTHONY. I have the floor. Rules and Regulations for the Organization of the National Mr. FITZGERALD. I assume that ·committee will recom­ Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers provides how the post mend such legislation as will be appropriate under the circum­ fund shall be constituted. The ordinary sources of revenue stances. are the store, the hotels, and the restaurants. The business of 1\Ir . .ANTHONY. I have t~e floor, and yielded to the gentle­ these separate establishments is conducted by the superin­ man. tendent of the post fund under the direction and supervision of 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. The gentleman can not stop me in the the council of administration of the post fund; the net profits middle of a sentence. I can not stop in that way. of the fund, unless otherwise directed by the board of man­ Mr. .ANTHONY. Go :-_head and finish up. agers, to be used for the increase of the libraries, the mainte­ Mr. FITZGERALD. I have said all I want to say. nance of bands when appropriations for that object are insuf­ Mr. .ANTHONY. The whole trouble lies in the fact that the ficient, furnisLing amusement halls, and such other purposes as committee of which the gentleman from New York is the chair­ will best conduce to the enjoyment of the members of the home. man is called upon to appropriate for these institutions, whereas Additional sources of revenue to the post fund are provided for the reports are referred to the Committee on Military Affairs, by the acts of July 1, 1902, and June 25, 1910. which has no authority whatever in the premises, no right to Now the posthumous fund under paragraph 405 of arti­ make a single appropriation for these homes. The result of cle 12-- this divided authority is found in the business conditions which 1\lr. STAFFORD. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman kindly exist there. describe that fund again? Mr. FITZGERALD. The truth of the matter is that during Mr. FITZGERALD. It is the posthumous fund. It comprises the year's the gentleman from Kansas has been in the House such money and effects of the deceased members who have not he has never raised his voice in criticism of these matters. executed the agreement provided for in the net of June 25, 1910, Whatever abuses were disclosed in the expenditure of the post as are found on their persons and in the custody of the surgeon, funds were not discovered by the gentleman from Kansas. al­ together with any sum received from the sale of property of though he was a memb~r of the majority for a number of years. such members in the hands of the quartermaster; but it does 1\Ir. ANTHOl\TY. The gentleman has never claimed that they not include pension money standing to the credit of deceased were. members. There are two distinct funds-the post fund and the 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. The gentleman was a member of the posthumous fund. Committee on Military Affairs, and some things have aroused Now. the provision in the bill to which the gentleman makes his activities in this matter. The Committee on Appropriations a point of order refers to the proceeds of the sales of effects or merely recommend appropriations in accordance with the law.

LI--681 10808 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. JUNE 20,

If that law should be chAnged, I should be glad to join with necessities but with some luxuries, that they are entitled to. the gentleman in having proper legislation enacted; but I have With reference to the Battle Mountain Sanitarium, which has all I can do to perform whHt work falls legitimately to this been assailed by the gentleman from Kansas, I want to read committee in connection with the mere appropriation of money, this letter the old soldier that I have referred to, who resides without attempting to suggest what legislation might be proper at Neligh, Nebr., wrote to his home paper: in many of these respects. In this instance, however, we are IDOIILY PRAISED IN LETTER ll'ROlll OLD SOLDIER. merely appropriating in accordance with the law. That is all BATTLE MOUNTAIN SANITARIUM, we have a right to do, and that is what we should do. Hot 8prinosJ 8. Dak. The CHAIR~IAN. If there be no objection, the pro forma The NELIGH REGISTER. amendment will be withd t'a wn and the Clerk will read. GE:STLEMEN: I have just returned from the Battle Mountain Sani­ tarium at Hot Sprin~s, S. Dak., and will pen a few lines fo1· the benefit The Clerk read as follows: of the old soldle1·s woo at·e afflicted and need to build up. I have noth· Subsisf;('nce: For pay of commissary sergeants, 'commissary clerks, ing to sell, no contribution to ask, but I think it's the finest p~~ce I porte1·s, laborers, bakers, cooks, dishwashers, walter&, and others em­ ever knew for a man to t·egain his forme!' ~elf. The fresh mountain air, ployed in the subsistence departmPnt; the cost of all articles purchased the water, and the baths. the kind treatment received, ou~IJt to help for the regular ration and the subsistence of civilian employees regu­ any afflicted person. In the first place, the men who preside over the larly employed and resJdlng at the bt·anch, their freight, prepara tlon, institution at·e as fine a lot as the greatest who preside over our Nation and serving; aprons, caps, and jackets for kitchen and dining-room at Washington, and ft·om the governoa· down to the smallest employee emplo.vees; of tobacco; of all dining-room and kitchen furniture and seem to exert themselves to their utmost capacity from the time they utensils, baket·s· and butcherR' tools and appliances, and their repair enter their duties until the close of day to pro.vide and make the mem­ not done by the home, 250.000. bers of· the institution comfortable. They have as good doctors as the Government provides and thet·e are no pains spared to make ,vou com· .Mr. A~"THO~Y. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. t'ortable. Many go who axe able to return to t b£'h' homes when they have received treatm('nts, while many who from wound~ and the long The CHAIRMAN. ThE' gentleman "from Kansas offers an nervous strain have not been able to battle with life. There thev have amendment, which the Clerk will report. got to remain, but, remembe1·, the official autbol·ities stand ready' to re­ The Clerk read as follows: ceive you with outstretched bands. I think the govemor is as fine a man. as I ever met : not a word did I beat• against the doctors or the Strike out, in line 6, page 80, the figures "$250,000" and substitute men ln authority while I was there. 1 was there :!4 days, and my thet·efor " 303,990.32." neighbors knew bow feeble I was when I went away. 'l'hey congratu­ Mr. ANTHONY. 1\ir. Chairman, of the amount of $250.000 late me on my appearance now. being hardly able to walk wbPn leaving here August 15, returning yesterday. I have been there twic<' before appropriated in this paragraph, the sum of $215.961.~0 is the and received similar l'esults. But I am just a man bo1·n of woman and amount actually expended for subsistence. or the feeding of the of the "earth earthy," and possess the wealmess of clay. and have not soldiers at the Dayton Home. Now I think right here is the the language to express my appreciation of the Battle Mountain Sani­ tarium un<1ea· its present management. point where Congress ought to step in and pro,·ide sufficient Respectfully, funds, so that these men cnn be properly subsisted. El. W. WRIGHT, Neligh (Neb1·.) Register. 'I'he other day I called the attention of the House to the 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I hope tllis nmenllwent fact that at the Regular .Army Soldiers' Home, here in Wash­ will not prevail. However much information the gent:eman ington, the War Department is allowing 35 cents a day for the from Kansas may have about the insufficiency of the sul.>si. tence, subsistence of its veteran soldiers. That means that they are the officials of the Government charged with the responsibility provided with ample food of great variety, and the men are disclose that the subsistence is sufficient and that these men e::m contented and happy. be subsisted for the amount which is allowed. It bas been the At Dayton, Ohio. under the parsimonious management of the custom of the Committee on Appropriations during my sen-ice board of managers. in their extreme anxiety to cut down the upon it to appropriate the sum reqnested for subsistence in .nil cost of subsistence to the soldiers there to the lowest possible of these homes. T·hey have never made any reduction from the notch, they haYe screwed it down to 22 cents a day. Perhaps amount estimHted unless the board of managers when before the that pro,·ides sufficient rough food to maintain a soldier in committee indicated that for one reason or another the amount active service. but it has been demonstrated time and again estimated was not necessary. that it is not sufficient to maintain old men and the feeble The current appropriation, according to my recollection. was and invalid soldiers in these homes. They need a greater and $260,000 and the estimate for the next year was $2G5.000. 'When better variety of food. The increase I have provided is 25 per the estimates were before the committee M1·. Harris said that cent in the amount which is allowed, an increase of about those estimates had been revised and they only asked for $2()0,- . $51.000 covering this branch. Instead of being exces'sive, it 000, and that is what the committee recommend. will only bring the cost of the ration up to 30 cents a day in Now, here is the per capita cost of subsistence at this brnnch. the Ohio home, and the same increase should be made for sub­ Maj. Harris said that the per capita cost of subsistence was sistence at all the other branch homes. That is little enoug~ $81.30 a yenr, which is 22.2 cents per day. That is the smallest in comparison with what the Regular Army soldiers are get­ of any of the branches. ting in the Regular Army homes. I think the House ought to Now, in the report of Maj. W. P. Jackson, inspector ~eneral step in here and do a way with the complaints that are coming of the Nfltional Home for Disabled Soldiers, made from Septem­ from the Volunteer homes in regard to the insufficient food ber 8, 1913, to NoYember 29, 1913, he gh·es the avet·age coRt of supply. tlle raw materials per day, with and without the specinl rliet. Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Mr. Chairman, I do not rise Last year these rations cost, on an average. 17.11 cents. 21.67 to oppose the motion of the gentl!lllan from Kansas [Mr. cents, and 22.54 cents. A ration of 20 cents a day, be says, ANTHONY], as it probably would be desirable to increase tht> exclusive of the cost of service. would be ample to supply the appropriation for ~ubsistence at these homes. and thus improve first-class feed senice to the general mess. the standard of li\'ing. I do want to comment, though. on his This is the Inspector General of the W::tr Department who remarks criticizing generally the national soldiers' homes of makes that stntement. I have now. Mr. Chairman, a copy of tlle country. In a speech in the House on the 9th of the present the report made by A. W. Smith, of Topekn, Knns .. nnder the month he criticized the Battle l\lountuin Sanitarium, an in­ date of May 16, 1914. It is by Col. A. W. Smith, appointed by stitution locnted in the western part of South Dakota. When l\lr. Washington Gardne1·, a Member of th1s House for a great that item is renched in the bill I intend to submit some further many years, well known to many 1\lembers, nt present com­ rerunrks and read some letters and newspaper articles refuting numder in chief of the Grand .Army of the Republic. Col. Smith charges that have been made against this institution by the made an inspection of the Western Branch, in connection with gentleman from Dlinois [llr. BuCHANAN]. Inasmuch as th~ some statement that had been made as to bnd conditions in that gentlenwn hns raised the question of insufficient subsistence at branch. He gi,·es a menu of the National Soldiers' Home, these institutions. and st

.' SuppJr: Bologna sausage, corn b~ead, stewed apples bread, butterine, able man would expect. No one· expects the Government to srrup, coffee. ' have them live in unparalleled luxury, but they should be kept TUESDAY. in decency and in comfort, and ample provision should be 1~. Breakfa~t: Irish stew, stewed figii!, bread, butterine, sirup, coffee. Dtnner: Boiled corned beef, creamed potatoes, macaroni and cheese, made for the~r comfort and happiness. That has been done. dee pudding, bread, butterine, coffee. I am not an advocate of the board of managers. I am in a Supper: Chilli concarne, stewed figs currant cake bread, butterine, position rather where it is my duty to be their critic, but I sirup, coffee. ' ' think we should not be unfair or unjust in our criticism of WEDXESDAY. 13. Breakfast: Corned beef hash, stewed peaches, bread butterine public officials in the management of · the public business, sirup, coffee. ' ' whether we be in sympathy with them politically or for any Dinndf'Id': Beef pot pie, steamed potatoes, boiled navy beans, farina other reason. r i ce pu 1ng, bread, butterine, coffee. . . Supper: Boiled homil'y, fried bacon, stewed peaches bread butterine My investigation leads me to the conclusion that these men Sirup, coffee. ' ' ' are as well cured for as they should be. This committee, on THURSDAY. matters of this character of subsistence and other items neces­ 14. Breakfast: Fried breakfast bacon steamed potatoes compote of sary for the maintenance of the home, acquiesced in the recom­ fruit, bread, butterine, sirup, coffee. ' ' mendations of those in charge of the homes for money. I think Dlnn.er : Baked pork and beans, creamed potatoes, macaroni and toma­ toes, pickles, bread, butterlne, and coffee. we can not justify an increase by 25 per cent of the money . Supper: Oatmeal mush and milk, stewed prunes bread butterine requested for subsistence for one of these homes when no in­ ~ru~m~~ ' ' ' formation other than a statement of a l\Iember 0:1 the floor FRIDAY. that in his opinion the amount appropriated is inadequate. 1.5. Breakfast: B_oiled eggs, steamed potatoes, cream gravy, stewed frm~, bread, butterme, sirup, coffee. Mr. FOSTER. Will the gentleman yield? Dinner: Baked halibut, mashed potatoes, stewed tomatoes peach pie Mr. FITZGERALD. Yes. cheese, bread, butterine, coffee. ' ' 1\fr. FOSTER. Do I understand the gentleman to say that Supper: Bologna sausage, peach butter, bread, butterine, sirup, coffee. the committee has given all that was asked for by those in SATURDAY. charge of the borne? 16. Breakf~st: Beef fricassee, steamed potatoes, stewed apricots, brea~, butterme, sirup, coffee. l\Ir. FITZGERALD. Yes. The estimate was $255.000, and pmne~: Bolle~ shoulders, brown gravy, ·boiJed potatoes, boiled navy the board of managers, when appearing on behalf of their beans, nee puddmg, pickles, bread, butterine coffee appropriation, sta'ted that $250.000 was sufficient. That reduc­ Supper: ~uccotash of lima beuns and corn stewed apricots bread butterme, srrup, coffee. ' ' '· tion was due to the fact that there is a perceptible reduction in H. CRAMPTOX, the number of men in the hom{'S. The committee has always Oommissary of subsistence. given the amounts reque<>ted, and I think that there is nothing T~e qua!ity of ;lng been a membeL' of the board of managers of the Jiansas State regular religious services are held. ' soldieJ·s' home at Fort Dodge for several ,years, I bad some practical HOSPITAL. knowledge of the needs and management of an institution of that There are 355 patients in the hospital. whlch is divided into 17 character. wards. A surgeon in chief and 4 assistant surgeons, with 12 trained I was exceedingly fortunate upon arrival at the national home to nurses and several male nurses. all of whom are at the patients' ca11, find Col. Wadsworth, tbe Government's inspector, there, who bad come both night and day. are in attendance. . to make his semiannual inspection. Like myself, he had come without A matron. who locks nfter the sanitation of the hospital has no announcement. He invited me to accompany him on a tour of inspec­ superior in any like institution in this country. Everything is. su­ tion of the various barracks and buildings of the home. We made a premely clean, and everything is being done for the comfort and most thorougb and minute inspection of every department of the home, welfare of the members that medical science and human sympathy can its equipment and management. command. The site of this home comprises a tract of 64-0 acres n ear Leaven­ One ward in the hospital is set apart for tubercular patients, !.

The only one article of food that J could suggest any improvement in know how men should be fed scientifica11y and what is best for ~-ould be the eoffee. It is not as strong as we used to get in tbe Army DOL' is it just such as I would like now. but the quantity is more tban them and what is essential for them. be is merely indulgina ln ample. It is served in bowls which bold 8 ounces, about equal to two cheap demagogy. because there is a br;-mch of the National Sol­ ordinary cups of cotl'ec. There is no limit to the quantity that a membeL' m:t.v have. diers' Home in the gentleman's own city. 'l'llc cemetery is beautl,fully located and neatly kept and contains Mr. STAFFORD. I have never indulged in demagogy near nbout 5,000 of our departed comrades. Every sl:r months the Govern­ as mucb as the gentleman from New York has on behalf of ap­ ment furnishes markers for the valious graves. All the funernl serv­ ices are military. pro~riations for his navy yard. I have not got the reputation As an appendix to this report I am inclosing you a copy of the rules for mdulging in demagogy, and it ill becomes the gentleman to nn!l regulations, which will give you exact knowledge of what the dis make such a statement. cipline requirements are. and also the fire protection, which you wUI I'cadily obset·ve is a very important matter. Mr. FITZGERALD. Nevertheless, I make it. All of which fs respectfully submitted. 1\Ir. STAFFORD. I lm<>w the gentleman makes many rash A. W. SMITH. statements that he can not back up, as he is accustomed to make .i\Ir. STAFFORD. 1\.lr. Chairn1an, I move to strike out the on some occasions. lnst two words. I have listened attentively to the speech of Mr. ANTHO~Y. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the lnst the chairman of the committee, and I am quite surprised that ~ord .. Each yenr these complaints come to Congress about the he would rise here with thnt statement and oppose increasing mefficJency o_f the food supply of the miltt.·uy homes. and each the estimate as submitted. The b!ll of fare for Sunday, I agree. year the cba1rman of the Committee on Appropriations answers would be acceptable to an old soldier, but when they furnish the criticisms by fu~some eulogies of the bonrd of mnna~ers the old soldier with one good meal a week and then pare it and by reading a faked-up report on the part of some individual down so that they do not give him any vegetables except pota­ sent to the soldiers' homes. whose expenses are paid tor by the toes at the noonday meal, and when the eYening meal consist3 board of managers, and who is ribbed up to bring in thnt kind merely of bologna sausage. bread, butterine, and coffee, it stirs of a report. my sympathy. and I rise in protest. I think these old soldiers 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. This gentleman to whom I refer-­ in theil· declining years should have something more for their Mr. A...~THONY. Oh, I know all nbout how thnt report was evening meal than bologna sausage. bread, butterine, and coffee. secured, when it was secured. and why. It was secured in You can not make any argument here that on 22 cents a day, ad·rance with the idea of discrediting what I am goin"' to say with the high cost of living still prevailing, you can furnish about this. o any man or set of men a decent bill of fare. It would not be Mr. FITZGERALD. .And I thlnk it has niscredited the out of the way to increase this item by 50 per cent. Twenty­ gentleman. five per cent is reasonable, and shame upon any representativ~ Mr. ANTHONY. And I say it as a Member of this House and of the Grand Army of the Republic who is sent to inspect the with personal knowledge of the truth. and I do not intend to conditions who wm vise a bill of fare such as was stated by have the gentlem:m eome in and offer to the House a fuked, the chairman of the committee. I think it is high time that trumped-up report of that kind to offset what I say in aood we should do something for these old soldiers. We Yote mil­ faith to the Honse without telling the House bow it wa: ob­ lions of dollars indiscriminately in pensions. but when you t•om~ tained. to provide for their bodily welfare by giving them something l\.fr. FITZGERALD. This report is made by a man appointed fit to eat in their declining years objection is raised upon the by the commander in chief of the Orand Army of the Republic. ground of economy. I think it is false economy, and that these He was a colonel in the Civil War and he resides in the gentle­ old soldiers de~- erve better treatment. man's own State. He was one of the committee nppointed by Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield the commanuet· in chief of the Grand Army of the Republic tor a question? and if this is a faked. trumped-up report to discredit the gentle: .Mr. STAFFORD. Yes. man. it does not originate with me. Mr. FITZGERALD. The gentlem:l.ll bas been in this House Washin!rton Gardner was a Member of Congress, and sel'Ved for some years. on that side of the House for many years with the gentleman Mr. STAFFORD. Yes. from Kansas-- Mr. FITZGERALD. And lle represents n district which has Mr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman. I have the floor. a soldiers' home in it? Mr. FITZGERALD. And the gentleman knows he would 1\Ir. ST..iFFORD. I beg the gentleman's pardon. I do not, not be a. party to any faked-up charge. and neYer ha ,-e. Mr. ANTHONY. Will !he gentlemnn permit i:ne to finish my Mr. FITZGERALD. Is there not a branch of the soldiers' remarks? I want to admit that, as far as Washington Garc'lner home in tbe bentleman's district? is concerned, be is a fine man, a man who is respected highly, Mr. STAFFORD. Oh, it is quite a distance away. and who served in this Hou~e with his <'Olleagne. the president 1\fr. FITZGERALD. How :far is it away? of the Board of Managers of the Soldiers• Home. Mr. Wads­ 1\Ir. STAFFORD. It is in the district represented by my worth. who is also a fine. genial gentleman. and who has many <'Ollengue, Mr: CARY. friends on the floor of thi1 House. and it is natural Washington l\Ir. FITZGERALD. How far away is it from the gentle- Gardner should seelt to help out his old colleague, and it is man's district? natural the gentleman from New York [Mr. FrTZOEBALD] seeks Mr. STAFFORD. The nearest point is 3 miles. . to help out his old colleague from New York State, Mr. Wads­ .Ur. FITZGERALD. And there is a branch in Milwaukee? worth. Mr. STAFFORD. Yes. Mr. FITZGERALD. And your Republican colleague; the Mr. FITZGERALD. .And the gentleman comes from Mil­ gentleman must not forget that. waukee? Mr. ANTHONY. I do not care whether he is a Republican Mr. STAFFORD. Yes. or a. Democrat. I am pleading for proper treatment of these Mr. FITZGERALD. And be has never before, in all the time old soldiers, :md if a Republican is responsible for tbis malad­ he has been in this House. raised his voice in criticism of the ministration I want to say I am horrified and ashamed of .it, character of food giyeu these old soldiers in these homes. and I would be glad even to fill these places on the boards with Mr. STAFFORD. No; because this is the first time since I Democrats if they will step in and treat these men as they haYe been in the House thn.t this outrageous condition has been ought to be treated. called to my attention, and if it had been before I would have Mr. FITZGERALD. We tried to do it. nnd that side of the taken the floor mnny. runny times and protested. House stepped in -and kept it from being done. Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I will state this, from 1\!r. Ai'\"THOXY. I want to say further, Mr. Chairman, that what I know of this bill of fare, having read it many times, that there is real cause for tbe criticisms and complaints of the it is bettPJ' than the average constituent of the gentleman enjoys soldiers' home, and I want to call the attention of the House from day to day. to a l'eport made by the Senate committee lnst year whPn they Mr. STAFFORD: Oh. it may represent the condition of the im·estigated thE' Cnlifornin home. Now, what did they report biii of fare of the gentleman's constituents, but not the constitu­ as to the condition of these veterans and the wny they were ents tllnt I represent. treated? We find that these poor old Yeterans," most of them 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. I am speaking particularly of the people Sill''i,·ors of the great War of the Rebellion. in their tottering of Milwaukee. old r~ge were fed in this manner: A sonp plate was put in front Mr. STAFFORD. The gentleman is misrepresenting and of them at noontime. A ration of soup was po1u-ed into that knows nothing nbont the conditions. plate. The veteran drank it or ate it. In the same dirty plate l\1r. FITZGERALD. I may not; but when the gentleman from a ration of meat or potatoes was afterwards plnct>d without Wisconsin undertakes to set his judgment aboYe the judgment e•en giving t11em a new plnte or wasbing the old one. Tbey of phy icians and the judgment of men whose business it is to were fed like a drov-e of bogs; that is the way they were 1914. CONGRESSION .AL llECORD-~OUSE. l08li

treated. ·what diil the Senate committee find further? It was one of these tnstitutions so bjghly prai,ed by the Committee en admitted by horne officials that the milk was watered before Appropriations. They came to me and demanded tllat I make it went on tile table; that 50 per cent of water was -placed in a complaint about it. I took it up before the board and it was the milk -that was giYen these poor old veterans. What did denied by .the local officials that that condition exiR-ted. But it they find further? They found out that they put 19 l)ounds of came nbout that on account of the publicity given tlle complaint coffee to make 125 gallons of eoffee to serve to the veterans, and that the hospital was infested with Termin the board was it was admitteU. that that was about one-half the amount that subsequently forced to discharge the chief surgeon and other should go into the ration. Good coftee well made is the first officials who were Tesponsible for that condition. essential of any ration. The trouble is th:~t these estimab~e .gentlemen on the board The CHAIR~1AN. The time of the gentleman has expired. do not know po-w these institutions al'e being managed, . They Ur. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to go there once a year. And I tell you that there nre conditions, proceed for fiye minutes. gentlemen, which prevail at some of the homes whirh are -a The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Kansas a·sks ummi- shame and n disgrace, and this bedbug incident is just one of mons consent to proceed for five minutes. Is there objection? them. [After a p3 use.] The Chair hears none. Now. to get down to the question of tbe amendment wbich 1\fr. SELDOMRIDGE. Wlll the gentleman yield for a ques- I ha•e offered. There is one argument that I am snre the tion? ' chairman of the Committee on Appropriations -can not .answer. 1\fr. fu.Yl'HONY. Yes. and that is why it is that the Regular Army hnme allows 35 Mr. SELDO~fRIDGE. I be1ie•e the gentleman is honest in the cents a day to maintain the veteran soldiers in the home bere statement be is making to the House in reference to the char- in Washington. -and the gentleman would compel the •eteran acter of ration pro-rideCI for these old soldiers and I would like Volunteer soldiers of these homes pronded for .by this bill to to nsk the gentleman this question: On what theory of manage- subsist on 22 cents a day. I am making the effort to give ·these ment do the managers of these homes pro-.ide a rati<>n of thllit veteran VoJuntee1· soldiers as good rations a:s the soldiers of character-? What is the 'Object in providing a cheap ration? the Regular Army homes, and I think it is no more than just Is it to Teduce the expenses of manag-ement .s~nd secure tor or right that that be done. themselves a record of economy and judieious management? iMr. RETLLY of Connectieut. Will the .gentleman yield? 1\ll·. ANTHONY. I think the -gentleman is right there. Maj. Mr. ANTHONY. Yes. '\Vndsworth is unquestionably a good business man, who takes Tlle CHAill~IAN. The time .of the gentleman from Kansas IJride in kee11ing the cost of feeding the men as small as possible, [Mr. ANTHONY] bas -expired. even while wasting money in other directions. Mr. AUSTIN. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the lust Mr. SELDOMRIDGE. HaTing experience as a public man, two words. does not be realize the sentiment of the country would justify I shall support the amenrlment offered by the gentleman from the most liberal appropriations for the sustenance :of the old Kansas [Mr. ANTHONY]. and I think there is merit in his state- soldiers? ment that there should be an inere. se. in Tiew of the cost in the 1\'Ir. A.i~THONY. I feel that it should. Soldiers' Home near Washington Cicy. In other words, there Mr. SELDO~RIDGE. Then, let me ask 'the gentleman this Should not be such a difference as 10 .or 12 cents J)er day per question. man between maintaini~ the soldiers of the Regular A..rmy .as ~Ir. fu"'\'THONY. I want to Eay if it were not for the poUticul against those who seiTed in the Volunteer Army. pull of the president of the board of managers on the :floor '<>f Mr. FITZGERALD. What does the gentleman include in the Honse to-day these men would be better treated ·and fed, the Washi11t,en :it a pretty thorou~h 1 take pleasm·e tn thanking you for publishing the story which you in.estigation, for we have constantly heard him deliver speeches did in your issue of September 9. I positively assure you see a dying [Laughter.] veteran-- Re~nrdless of what was the original moti¥e that pmmpted 1\Ir. FfTZGERALD. Wbo signed the letter? the gentleman from Kansas. I am l d to believe it resulted in l\1r. ANTHONY. It is si~ned, "One Who Knows," an old his investigation of this subject, and I have that confidence in soldier. He was afraid to sign bis' own name: if he did. he him that I am lOc'lth to believe lle could afford to misrepresent 'would not last longel' than 30 days .at the institution which the a condition affecting the soldiers' home located in the district gentleman prniRes so much. he so ably represents. But in this conneetiou I wish to stflte l\1r. FIT7-GEllAI.. D. Be ought not to remain there at all if the borne located near Jarious departments, the mess hal1, the barracks. the adwinis­ uying reteran there, tl man who died shortly there

the efficiency of it or the high character of the ~nen who ad- The CHAIR~IAN. Is there objection to the geutlernan's re- minister its affairs. Iquest? Now, I haye had occasion al o to visit the Southern Branch, There was no objection. located ~t ~amp~on, Va., two or three times e-rery year during Mr. ~lONDELL. I take it also that the money is spent in my sernce m this House. I know personally the governor of the mam for carrying on the work on the farms. that home, Col. Knox, and the other officers who are associated Now, there has been some criticism of the ration some talk with him in its administration, and I do not believe there can to the effect that there is not a sufficient variety. The aentle­ be truthfully laid a just complaint against the efficient, honest, man from Wisconsin [l\fr. STAJ!'FORD] talked about b~loana and faithful management of that home. I think I owe it to sausage for supper. Well: if on some one day in the year o or the men who ar~ co~nected. wit~ ~e. soldiers' hom.e in Tennes- on two. days or three days in the year, .bologna sausage wa~ on see and the soldiers home m V1rg1ma to make this. statement, the ratwn, I assume that it was good bologn .. sausage and I have in view of the many criticisms that have been made on the floor no doubt it was palatable and acceptable. Certaidly the gen~ of this House touching the various soldiers' homes in the tleman does not want us to understand that that was the onlY. United States. · article of food that was served. ' Mr. MONDELL. Mr. Chairman, I do not know to what ex- .Mr. STAFFORD. It is true that they had bread and butterine tent gentlemen who happen to represent districts in which there and coffee, but they had nothing else. are soldiers' homes or districts which are adjacent to soldiers' Mr. MANN. The gentleman from Wisconsin is lookin·g for a homes may feel called upon to complain on behalf of the inmtttes certain thing which goes with hologna. [Laughter.] of the homes as to the treatment they receive. but certain it is Mr. STA.FFORD. They can get the other thing outside. that the inmates themselves make very, very little complaint of Mr. l\lONDELL. I understand it may be popular to make their condition. The gentleman from Tennessee [Mr. AusTINl these criticisms. The gentleman may want to appeal to a few bas just made a most remarkable statement-that, with regard disgruntled persons, to the effect that these members of the to the Mountain Branch, near his home, he has never heard a borne are not bei'ng well fed, but I prefer to take the word of single complaint from an inmate. I imagine it would be very the members of the homes themselves rather than that of those difficult, indeed, to match that condition in any public institu- advocates and champions of them who criticize the bill of fare. tion anywhere, particularly when you take into consideration I do not propose to stand here and hear the management of these the fact that these men are old, that they are infirm, and that homes for veterans, as maintained by Congress, challenged they are at a period of life when trifling matters t~ometimes unfairly without answering. · seem of great importance to them. There is not an item in this Now, this is tl'Ue with regard to the suppers at those homes~ bill that so appeals to our patriotic impulses as these items a matter that was discussed before our committee: These men providing for the care of the old Union soldiers. And I am are mostly old. It does not do to feed them heavily on meat surprised to bear gentlemen on this side use the language they for the evening meal. It has been clearly demonstrated that an have used in describing conditions in these homes as being increase of meat for the evening meal means an increase of a outrageous. It is not true; it never was true; and, least of all, variety of troubles, an increase of the number of men in the hos­ t..; it true now. These homes are !Jeautiful, spacious, com- pitals; and, therefore, in order to keep the men healthy and fortable, well taken care of, and the inmates are well provided in as good condition as possible, the meat ration is kept small for, and in the overwhelming majority of cases they are per- for the evening meal. I suppose that these gentlemen would fectly content. The board of managers is composed of men of suggest that we load these veterans with the heaviest kind of high character, men who ser-red with these veterans, men who meat for the evening meal in order that we may increase the are in sympathy with them, and men who would not leave any- number of those who go to the hospitals. thing undone which would contribute to their comfort. Tq Mr. STAFFORD. l\lr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? say that these men limit the fare of these soldiers, deny them Mr. MONDELL. Yes. proper food, in order that they may make a showing of economy, .Mr. STAFFORD. Does not the gentleman think they are en- is to indict them in a way that any man knowing those gentle- titled to some vegetables for the noonday meal besides potatoes? men knows is not justified or justifiable. It is true that the l\lr. 1\.IO::NDELL. I have no doubt they are so furnished. sum per day paid for subsistence-simply the cost of food, not 1\Ir. STAFFORD. That was the only vegetable contained in including any cost of preparation-does not seem high, but the the bill of fare that was read by the gentleman from New York supplies are bought iu large quantities at wholesale, and there- [l\Ir. FITZGERALD]. Perhaps that was a fast day. fore at a comparatively low price. Furthermore, practically Mr. .MONDELL. Those bills of fare include a variety of vege­ every one of these homes bas a large farm. At most of the tables. I have no doubt the bill of fare is satisfactory to the homes milk and cream are produced from the farm, and they are majority of the veterans. I have no objection, so far as I am not included in the cost of the ration. · personally concerned, to hfi:ving the bill of fare improved if the Those farms produce a large portion of the vegetables used veterans desire it-to have a greater variety, if they desire it. in most of the homes. Those vegetables are not charged up But I do protest against increasing the appropriation on the in the cost of the ration, so that as a m:1tter of fact the ration ground that these men have not been well cared for and well costs very considerably more than is indicated by the price fed, and that they have not in the overwhelming majority of stated as its cost. Not only are these farms well stocked with ·cases been perfectly content and well satisfied. high-grade cattle, with work horses and implements, but they The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Wyoming are of considerable area, capable of producin.; a considerable has expired. portion of the farm products used in the home. We are expend- Mr. GUERNSEY. 1\lr. Chairman, I do not know what con­ ing quite a considerable sum for the maintenance of the farms, ditions may exist in other national soldiers' homes, but I do and not one product of the farms is cha::-ged to the cost of the know from personal examination of the home at Togus, l\Ie., ration. If you. add to the cost of the ration the value of all near the State capital, that the food served there and the con­ the products produced on the farms and the cost of maintaining ditions under which it is ser-ved are as good as in the best the farms, you would find that the cost of the ration "P.ould be hotels in Washington. quite high. And further than that, that Gen. Joseph Smith, who until 1\Ir. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield recently has been the l\Iaine member on the board of managers there? of the e national homes, and whose reappointment to the board Mr. 1\IONDELL. Yes. of managers certain interests have been trying to prevent, has Mr. ANTHONY. The total cost is about $150,000, appro- taken an unusual personal interest in the soldiers' borne at priated for these so-called farms. Does the gentleman know that Togus, and has given a great amount of his time for years look­ about $75,000 of that amount is devoted to the maintenance of ing after that borne and the interests of the veterans there, grotmds as scenery and not to the production of vegetables? making frequent personal visits to them. I know him so well Mr. MONDELL. No; I do not know it. and his love of the work was so great that it would have been Mr. ANTHONY. That is a fact. impossible in the soldiers' home near Augusta, l\lc .• for any l\fr. MOl'oo."'DELL. I do not know anything of the kind. I am conditions to exist as to foods that were not entirely proper and not especially well acquainted with these soldiers' homes, but right. I take it for granted that the money that is spent on these farms Gen. Smith made the Maine home his special <·barge, and be is spent economically. I know that a large amount of vegetables rendered most important and faithful service to the Government are grown. and the veterans during his service on the board. I can per- The CHAIRMAN. The tirr:e of tbe gentleman from Wyo- sonally assure this House that the veterans at the Mnine home ming has expired. are well cared for and well fed. I have talked with the vet- Mr. l\10NDELL. .Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to erans; I have visited them at the· home; I know what they say, proceed for five minutes more. and I have never heard a single complaint. [Applause.] 1914. c·oNGRESSION AL RECORD-HOUSE.· 10813

A synopsis of all the charges made 'Dy the men dtscharged would be 1\Ir. BURKE of · South Dakota. Mr. Chairman, us stated a too leng-thy, but in substancP the chief trouble seems to lay in the free few minutes ago, I intended making some further remarks upon toba::co i ued at one time, It being somewhat musty; but as soon as re­ ported, this matte!'" was righted . the conditions in the Dattle Mountain Sanitarium and the man­ . Leaving out the minor details, the flre~ident of the Board of Managl?rS a.,.ement of that· institution when the item making the nppro­ of the National Home, Maj ..James W. Wadsworth, of New Yot·k City; Col. James E. Miller, ins]1crtor ~eneral and chief sm·geon; together with p~iation is reached. · The subject of the conditions in the h omes a committee composed of Col. N. G. Cockey, of Salina, Kans., and Col. generally, however, having been discussed as the_y have be~n, I F. 1!'. Jones. of Ohio, rept·esenting the Spanish War Vetet·ans' Associa­ will ask the indulgence of the House to bear w1th me while I tion, upon their regular tour of inElpection. investigated these complaints, and after a fair and impartial henring made a joint recommendation sny '\\hat I haTe to say right now, as it will pe;haps be more that Lacy, Yount, and Walich be dropped from the rolls. thus exoner­ appropriate at this point than fnrther on in the btll. ating the local management from n.Il charges referred to in the Co~­ I think perhaps that some of the antagonism that seems to GRE8SIOXAL ItEconn. This investi:mtion was ronde March 2:> of this year. This ought to lead any fair-minded person to a proper conclusion. prentil in the House against the management of these homes and that is that the members evidently received their just deserts. is due largely to some rem:uks made and to the charges that l\Ien ln charge of any institution of any importance are always were brought to the attention of the Bouse on the 29th ?f criticized. and of the 500 members at the Battle Mountain Sanitari11m there are bound to be some who have an idea that thl'y could ccnduct April by the gentleman from 111iuois [Mr. BucHANAN], wherem it in better shape than men who have devoted their life to this sort be rend a statement made by three men who had been dropped of work. from the rolls at the Battle ~lountain Sanitarium, in South Regarding the food and drugs at the sanitarium. the United States food and drug inspector her!' last week stated tl)at when it came to Dakota. ~ criticizing it be had no criticism to offer, but that it was a matter or The gentleman from Kansas [)Jr. ANTHO~Y] on the 9th OJ. the wonderment to him at the high quality and per.fect manner in which present month, in a speech in the House, made referen~e to t~;te everything is kept. EYery per_son in the cJty has a personal pride in the s:mitnrium and Battle Mountain Sanitarium, complaining of the conditions m its set of efficient officer , and when papers in other cities give pub­ that institution and referring to the charges that had been made licity to unfounded statements. evl'n though they be in the CO:"GRRS· by the three men who had been members of that home, who. as sro,.·AL R:aconn, we beg to set the matter ri::rht and hope that tho he e:x:preRsed it, "had been given the gate," meaning that they Grude and Pioneer-Times v.11l set this matter right with their readers. had been dropped from the rolls. . . Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. l\lr. Chairman. I want to and Mr. Chairman. in general debate on th1s b1ll I commen~ed a further testimonial to the high stand:rrd that prevails in the somewhat upon the charges contained in the communicatiOn Battle Mountain Sanitarium, both as to administration and the which came from these three men, and which were put in the conditions generally, and to further refute the unjust charges RECORD by the gontleman from Tilinois, and I do not lnt~nd to that were brought to the attention of the House and the country di cus · them at any length now, except to say tha! 111 the by the publication of the charges that were sent to the- gentle­ :vears that I bave been in this Hou~e nnd during the time that man from Illinois [1\Ir. BccrrANA~] and which appe.'lrs in the the Battle Mountain Sanitarium has been in operation in my RECORD of April 29. I am going to ask to illlve read a letter State I nEITer have received a single complaint from any mem­ written by a \ery prominent citizen of South Dakota, a man who ber of that home, or from any man who had ever be.en _in the had a very 'distinguished military service in the War of the home, except the charges that the gentleman from Illmo1s sub- Rebellion, who rose to the rank of captain, a man who is highly mitted. copies of which were sent to me. . respected and whose word is absolutely good. He happen~ to Some :Members of the House undoubtedly lab~r under the Im- be a brother of a gentleman who served in this House with pression tllfit these charges come from some old soldier, some honor and distinction for a period of 12 years, the Hon. old veteran of the Civil War. some man who had a long and Washington Gardner, of Michigan. His name is C. V. Gardner, perhaps distinguished military service. and before I send the letter which I received only yesterdny to 1·ow. it hnppens thnt these charges were principally gotten the Clerk's desk to be read, I will read the letter accompanying up by one who bad been a member of the- home. and I took oc­ it for the information of the House and to show that he wrote casion to look up that man's record. He is 47 years of al?e. me entirely unsolicited: He enlisted in Buffalo, N. Y., in May, 1898. He- was dis­ PIED:UO~"'T, S. D.iK., June 1G, 1~1Jr. charged in No\ember, 1808, at Buffalo, and he_ was treated in llon. CHARLES H. BURKE, Washington, D. a. l\fy DE.AR l\IR. BURKE: The inclosed is a copy of a letter I have this a hospital during his military service for a period of two days day mailed to Hon. FRAXK BUCllANAN. for an ingrowing toenail. That is the record of the man who His speech, to say the least, was outrageous, and he QUght to ma.ke i the chief sponsor for these charges. amends for so vile a slandar. With kind personal regards, The gentleman from Kansas [ Ir. AN'I!HONY], referring to Yours, ver·y truly, C. V. GARDNlm. these charges, on June 9 stated that he had written to a man 1\Ir. Chairman, I now send to the Clerk's desk and ask to who hnd been in that home, who he said was a man he 1.-new ha\e read in my time a copy of the letter that Capt. GardneL and upon whom he could rely, inquiring about these men. That inclosed, the original having been sent to the gentJem:m from man, in speaking of these men, said in his letter of reply to th~ Illinois [Mr. BucHANAN], to whom it is addressed. gentleman from Kansas: The Clerk read as follows: In a word these three men are simply three miserable, wretched, PIED:UO~, S. DAK., Jtmc 11, 1911,. nonpensioned: impoverished in\alids, with a rather exaggernted idea of lion. l.i'RANK BUCHANAN, their surroundings. Wasllinnton, D. C. Of the man who had the six months' senice, at Buffalo, N. Y., DEAR SIR: On my return h.ome, , after an absence of some weeks, my attention has been called to a speech made by you and published ln the in 1 08, he said: Co""GRESSIONAL RECORD of April 29 last. in which you viciously assailed' He Is a frail chap, In the secondary stages of pulmonary tubercu­ the management and officials of the Battle Mountain Sanitartum, located losis, inclined to be fanciful as to his surroundings, rca~ socialistic at Hot Springs. this. State. My first thought was one of intense indig­ nation; then, supreme pity, that a gentleman supposed to have the Uterature, etc. ability to I'epresent in part one of the great States in the Congress, Mr. Chairman. with reference to these charges and the speech would make such a speech without first trying to ascertain if tbue was made by the gentleman from Tilinois [1\1r. BucHANAN], I want just cause for it, and the alleged complaint in a letter by one Walich, and made a part of your bitter and unjust attack. to have read an article from the Hot Springs Star, of l\lay 15. Permit me to state that at the last annual encampmPnt of the Na­ 1914. Hot Springs is the place '\\here the Battle Mountain tional Grand Army of the Republic Association, held at Chattanooga, a Sanitarimn is located'. I invite attention to the reading of th~ standing committee of· 10. one for each of the national homes, was appointed to investigate alleged ill treatment of inmates and otbt>r article. wrongdoings by lhe officials of the homes. I was assigned to the The Clerk read as follows: Battle Mountain Sanital'inm. I made application for admission, osten­ sibly for treatment, but in reality that I might, from personal ex­ THE OTHER SIDE-THB TRUTH ABOUT THE DISCH.I.llGE OF :\lB~ERS FROM THE BATTLE MOUNTAIN S.\~ITARIUl\1. perience and observation, study conditions as tht>y actually existPd. I was regularly admitted Fel.Jruary 5 last and remained until 1\larch 2. ncgarding an unpleasant situation that developed at the Battle Moun­ I was assigned to a ward and lived just as the other inmates, eating tain ·sanitarium recently, seveml of the papers of the Northem Hills the same food at the same tables, and obeying the same rules and regu­ nave been. we think, a little hasty in publishing articles regarding same lations of the institution as my comrades did. without first getting the facts in the case. We refer to the discharge of It was a pleasant experience and a revelation alonf? many lines. members, James H. Lacy, John H. Yount, and Anthony H. Walich, from There were at the time of my visit between 400 and 500 mmates. the sanitarium. Being a sanitarium rather than a home. I found men sufl'Pring from The matter published by the Gate City Guide, at Rapid City, and the nearly all diseases and ailments that humanity is heir to-patients in all Pioneer-Times, at Deadwood, is a copy of the COXGRESSIOXAL RECORD stages of diseases, from the very sick to those who were physically and letters submitted by Congressman BucnANAN of Illinois, to whom stt·ong, but were ther:e for treatment of real or imaginary chronic ail- these men who wet·e discha nred took their case. He. of course, on the ments. tloor of the Honse, seemed to get real bitter and denounced the manage­ I desire to state right bl?re that it is my candid belief that quite a ment of the home het·e in rather an uncalled-for manner. numbet· of the inmates, judging from theh· physical appearance, move­ Lacy, Yount. and Walich were members of the sanitarium here in the ments, and appetites. are there because a too generous Government has tuherc11Iar cottagt>. A.s any person in this city will verify, the men at supplied them with all the luxuries of a home without money or a pr·i ce. 1 Men able to work, yet taking the opportunity of having been enlisted rr~lb~~~~;e ~e:latr~~db~~o~ ~~t~~x:! ~tn°ln ~~v~~iig~·~W~al~~%e K;i:a as soldiers. live without labor or rf'sponsibility. This applies especially resultt.>d. to some ot. the so-called Spanish War veterans. In Congreesmun BUCHA....,A!i's· tirade, as well a.s the letters submitted, I do not hesitate to state that if you will look up the record of. the he called particular ut.tention to the locaL management and laid all man who wrote and those who indot·sed that Jetter you will find tl'l:at I.Jiame, lf there be any, on these men. 10814_ CONGRESSIOKAL _ RECORD-HOUS~. JUNE 20,~

they never beard a hostile shot, or if so, were far in the rear; and, fur­ ther, if they are ailing, they are being treated fot: diseases brought on · cured at tll~t institution. Whereas at the GoYernment Army by dissipation and debauched habits. They are stmply ·• camp follow­ sanitarium at Fort Bayard they turn out dozens of men cured ers" and unwot·tby of the name of American soldiers and a disgrace to of that dread disease every year. the great body of yotmg men who are rightly known as Spanish War · Mr. BURh.~ of South .Dakota. - Does the gentleman think ve~e~~~sbt not all the 10 homes have a greatet· or less number of these that the Member who comes from the district where the.re is a fellows, whose chief occupation is that of disturbers and faultfinders. home, if he wants to serve his own interest, would be uphold-' I found the sanitarium modern ln all respects and treatment the very ing the government of a home against the judgment of several be~\e food, while plain-as it should be-was most a.bu~dant, and the hundred members that might be in the institutiQn? chef of the Waldorf-Astoria could uot improve on its preparation and 1\fr. ANT'HONY. At some homes there is very little complaint. cooking. All foodstufis at·e accepted only after inspection b;y; ·a com­ petent committee, two of whom are doctors, and must comply wtth pure­ while at others the conditions are very bad. Some gentlemen food laws. 'rhe sanitm·y conditions are simply perfect from " cellar to have spoken in defense of their homes, and justly so. garret." 1\fr. BURKE of South Dakota. I have confined my state­ I have found that not only all the officials, but attendants as well, are most coUI teous and attentive to their varied duties. As to Gov. ment to the Battle Mountain Sanitarium, which was assailed .James .A. Mattison, I do not believe in all the country there is a man by these three men and one or two others. bC'ttet· qualified in every respect for the position be occupies. lie is The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered kindness personified, yet fit·m in his administration ; and the charges you make in your unconsidered-! want to be charitable--speech are by the gentleman from Kansas. so foreign to his nature that they are simply absurd. The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by Mr. . It is my good fortune to have known Maj. W. H. Stanley for a num­ ANTHONY) there were 12 ayes and 18 noes. ber of years. He is a most genial gentleman and the very soul of. honor, and if a wrong, by any means possible, occurs in his depart­ So the amendment was lost. ment, no man would be swifter· to right it if in his power to do so. The Clerk read as follows : Should you have any doubt of the truth of these statements, if you Soutb~rn Branch, Hampton, Va. : For current expenses, ~ncluding the will go and investigate for yourself and not find them in all respects same obJects specified under this bead for the Central B"ranch, 46,000. as above set forth, I will pay all your expenses from Washini:"'ton and return. Should you find my contentions correct, I hope you . w 11 be big Mr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, I have been informed thnt the enough and broad enough to acknowledge before all the people of the governor of the Hampton Home draws about $7,000, in all, per~ country that you did a great injustice to the most worthy gentlemen and consciE'ntious officials. It is that "spirit that makes just men perfect." annum from the United States Treasury, and that that i made Yours, truly, up of hls salary as a retired colonel in the Army and also the c. V. GAnDNER, regular salary of a governor of the soldiers' home. It is a Late Captain Oompanv A, Twenty-ninth Iowa Volunteer Intantr1/. generally accepted rule or a provision of Jaw that where\er a retired Army officer is detailed to acti•e duty lie is only allowed l\Ir. ..A.N1.'HONY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last to draw, in addition to the retired pay, the amount of difference word. During the remarks of the gentleman from Wyoming between the retired pay and the regular pay. Yet the board of [Mr. MoNDELL] I was surprised-- managers, for some reason, have allowed the governor of the Mr. DONOVAN. Now, M1·. Chairman, I am going to make Hampton Home the full salary of $3,000 in addition to his re­ the point of order. The gentleman has already struck out the tired pay. last word two dHferent times. 1\fr. FITZGERALD. The retired Army and Navy officers can The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Kansas [Mr. AN­ be assigned to certain military duty, and then they receive full THONY] asks unanimous consent to proceed for five minutes. pay. I do not know of any statute that prohibit$ a retired Is there objection? Army officer receiving civilian compensation. There is a pro~ There was no objection. vision in the Revised Statutes that forbids any person receiving Mr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, I was astonished to find a compensation of more than $3,500 from receiving any other thnt the gentleman from Wyoming [Mr. MoNDELL] in the re­ additional pay; but I am informed that the comptroller has m::t rks he addressed to the committee, questioning the correct­ ruled that the pay of a retired officer of the Army is in the ness of statements made by other Members in reference to the nature of a pension, and that they do not come within this pro­ soldiers' home, should himself have displayed a woeful la~k of vision. knowledge, a woeful ignorance in regard to matters upon which Mr. ANTHONY. Of course the gentleman knows that a re­ he is called upon to legislate in his committee. He assured the tired officer ordered to active duty simply draws the regular House that the inmates of these soldiers' homes were abundantly pay, and it seems that the governor of a soldiers' horne is supplied with fresh vegetables from splendid farms connected merely doing military duty and should not draw any more thrui with e•ery one _of these 10 ho:nes. the pay of his rank on active duty. It is true that we appropriate in this blll about $152,000 to Mr. FITZGERALD. He draws a salary as governor of the conduct imnginary farms at these homes, but what do the fig­ home. ures compiled from the report of the board of managers show? .M:r. ANTHONY. And he gets quarters and a number of other They show that out of the $152,000 that we appropriate for emoluments. 1\Ir. Chairman, I would like to offer an amend­ these so-called farms there is a net loss in conducting them of ment which I think would correct the abuse. I understand this $83,000, and that the inmates receive only about $60,000 in governor is drawing the full amount of $3,000 salary from the yalue in vegetables from these farms. In other words, these board of managers, in addition to his retired pay from the War farms are conducted at this loss to the Government of $83,000, Department, and I think the amendment will cure that. which is explained by the board as being expended for the The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendment. maintenance of the grounds. Yet the members are charged up The Clerk read as follows: with the maintenance of these grounds, with the cost of this Insert as a new paragraph, to follow line 15, page 83 : scenery, in the comparative figures which they furni_sh ~n­ upt·ovidecl, That when a retired Army officer is appointed to an offi­ gress, showing how much it costs per annum to mamtam a cial salaried position by the board of management of the National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, be shall not be paid by said board of member in one of these homes. managers out of any appropriation made by this act a greater compen­ Mr. MONDF~LL. Will the gentleman yield? sation than that which will equal the dUI'erence between the retired pay Mr ANTHONY. Yes. and the pay he would receive if on the a.ctlvc list of the Army." Mr: MONDELL. The gentleman knows that the soldiers are Mr. FITZGERALD. .Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of not charged up anything on account of these farms; that what­ order against the amendment. I want to ask the gentleman ever is produced on the farms is received by them in addition from Kansas this question: Why should that rule apply only to the ration cost which has been reported. to retired officers who may be appointed by the Board of Mana­ l\Ir. ANTHO~Y. I have stated to the gentleman that the ger~S of the National Soldiers' Homes? Why should it be re-. amount Congress appropriates for farms, $152,000, is used in stricted in such a way? If such is to be the policy of the Gov .. computing the total cost to the Government of maintaining the ernment, why should the rule not be uniform? merniJers per annum. It is shown by figures that the soldiers Mr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, I will say to the gentleman do not get the amount of $152,000 by $83,000. At some homes, that it is my information that it is the general law now, which oue the Battle Mountain Home, not a dollar is expended for the applies to every other assignment other than to physicians In cost of a real farm. Every dollar of it is expended for main­ the national soldiers' homes, the law governing which seems to tenance and grounds. have been construed by the comptroller as a law unto itself. Mr. MONDELL. That is the home where the gentleman Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I am informed that the from that district says there is no complaint. law applies only to active service in the Army. Mr. ANTHO~Y. It is very natural for gentlemen repre­ Mr. ANTHONY. I do not see any reason why a Regular sentin"" the district where these homes are situated to get up Army officer should draw double pay from the Government and d~fend them. The crowning indictment of these homes for doing purely military duty, and this is surely militarY. arises from the fact th·at at Battle Mountain Sanitarium for duty. instance, supposed to be a home for the cure of tuberculosis, Mr. FITZGERALD. Suppose a retired Army officer was ap... there has not been a single record of a soldier who ~as beet;\ pointed head of ~ department of the Government; should he 1914. CONGRESSIONAL "RECORD-· HOUSE. -· recehe· only what he is· entitled to ·as an ·officer of his grade Eult.. and had directed the Clerk· to read. The request comes too on the active list? late. Mr. A. 'THOZ\Y. No; I think perhaps an exception should be Mr. A..J.~THONY. 1\Ir. Chairman-- made, but in this instance at the Hampton Home he is doing Mr. FITZGERALD. Oh, the gentleman never rose out of his regular military duty. Let me carry the analogy further. If a seat. t•etired officer of the Army was detailed there as a military 1\Ir. ANTHONY. The gentleman can not make anything by instructor to those men, if such could be done, all he could unfair tactics of that kind. draw would be the difference between his retired pay and his .Mr. FITZGERALD. I am not attempting to gain anything active pay. by being unfair; but the gentleman did not rise in time. Mr. FITZGERALD. Btcause that would be active military .:Mr. ANTHONY. There is no doubt the amendment will be duty. voted down; and the gentleman might as well allow a division 1\Ir. ANTHONY. That is all this man is doing. on it. 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. Oh, no; he is the governor and the ad- Mr. FITZGERALD. I make the point of order that the de- ministrator of this home. Suppose a retired colonel were. mand for a division came too late. · appointed Assistant Secretary of the Navy or AssistaJ!t Secre- Mr. £WTHONY. If the gentleman makes the point of order tary of Agriculture, the same rule should apply to him as would on that, I will make the point of no quorum. ffpply to a man appointed governor of one of these homes. Mr. MANN. While the rules might require a gentleman to 1\Ir. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, to my mind it is bad policy rise to make a demand for a division, ordinarily it is done by to allow any man to draw two salaries from the Government for a gentleman sitting in his seat. doing one duty. Mr. FITZGERALD. It is too late. Mr. FITZGERALD. There have been retired Army officers Mr. 1\IANN. The gentleman asked for a division. who have been Members of Congress. · 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. Then I beg the gentleman's pardon if 1\Ir. ANTHONY. A retired Army officer is subject to being the gentleman made it in time. . ordered to active duty by the Government at any time that it Mr. MANN. But he made it while he was in his seat. c:m utilize his services. He is not li!te..a man retired on a pen- Mr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, I withdraw the request for sion. a division. Mr. FITZGERALD. But only for military duty. Mr. FITZGERALD. If the gentleman made his demand for Mr. ANTHONY. That should be military duty at Hampton a division in time, of course, I did not understand it. Home, and it really is. I think the trouble is that it is con- 1\fr. MANN. The gentleman from Kansas withdraws his strued as a civil duty by the comptroller. request. Mr. TAGGART. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? .Mr. FITZGERALD. It is too late to withdraw. Mr. ANTHONY. Yes. Mr. STAFFORD. I renew it, Mr. Chairman. Mr. TAGGART. Does the gentleman's amend.!nent include Mr. FITZGERALD. The gentleman can not renew the re- a1so reti-red officers of the Navy? quest. If it was not made in time, he can not renew it. Mr. ANTHONY. It covers only officers of the Army, because Mr. STAFFORD. The gentleman from Kansas was in time, the presumption is that they would detail only officers of the and if be withdraws it another Member bas the privilege of Army, but still it should apply to officers of the Navy. renewing it, and I renew it. Mr. TAGGART. Of course this is not a military duty under Mr. FITZGERALD. It is too late for the gentleman from any department of the Government. It is a civil duty. Wisconsin-- Mr. ANTHONY. As the gentleman from California [Mr. - Mr. STAFFORD. If the gentleman will bear with me, if the KAHN] suggested to me, the language should be "Army, Navy, or gentleman from Kansas made the demand for a division in Marine· Corps." time and then subsequently withdraws it, it lies within the The CH.AIRl\IAN. The question is on agreeing to the amend- power of any Member to renew it. ment offered by the gentleman from Kansas. Mr. MANN. Undoubtedly. Mr. FITZGERALD. l\Ir. Chairman, I make the point of Mr. STAFFORD. And that was my purpose in renewing it. order. Mr. MONDELL. Let me suggest the gentleman from Kansas Mr. FOSTER. I think it is a limitation on an appropriation. did not make his motion in time. He did not claim be did. Mr. FITZGERALD. I think not. . The gentleman from New York agreed, if the House by unani­ Mr. F:OSTER. Oh, yes. It provides that they shall be paid mons consent would give an opportunity to make the motion, he only so much. I think it is a limitation on an appropriation. should not object, but that does not give the gentleman from Mr. BARTLETr. Not on the amount carried in this bill. Wisconsin an opportunity to make it. Mr. FOSTER. It is a limittation on the item carried in this Mr. STAFFORD. The gentleman from Illinois, whom I be- bill. lieve to be a somewhat superior parliamentarian to the gentle- man from Wyoming, claims that the gentleman from Kansas Mr. ANTHONY. Has the point of order been made against was in time. theThe amendment? Cli-<\IRMAN. The Chair understood the gentleman from 1\f r. M 0 NDELL. I do not understand the gentleman from Illinois to claim anything of the kind. New York resP.rved the point of order, but the Chair did not .Mr. STAFFORD. Ob, yes, be did; and if the gentleman did understand that be made the point of order. not hear it be is deaf. Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I made the point of Mr. HAMILTON of Michigan. I do not believe in these in- order. vidious comparisons. l\fr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, I think the amendment is The Clerk read as follows: clearly in order under the Holman rule. It is a limitation, a re­ For household, including the same objects specified under this head duction. · for the Central Branch, $95,000 : Provided, •.rhat no part of this Mr. TAGGART. Is it not manifest on the face of the amend­ sum shall be used fo1· fuel oil if It shall appear to the board of man-· agers that coal as a fuel can be procured and used more economically. ment that it works an economy? It limits the appropriation. It will reduce the amount of expenditure on the bill. Mr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, I desire to offer the follow- Mr. STAFFORD. Mr. Cbairmim, if the Chair will indulge ing amendment. me, I wish to refresh his memory on that part of the Holman The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendment. rule which provides that an amendment shall be in order where The Clerk read as follows: it works a reduction of compensation of any person paid out of Strike out the proviso begmning in line 7, on page 84, and insert in the Treasury of the United States, and certainly this amend­ lieu thereof the following : "Provided, That such part of this sum as shall be used for fuel shall ment covers that character of individual and is in order under only be expended for such fuel as can be procured most economically the Holman rule. and which will furnish the greatest number of thermal units of heat r.rbe CHAIRl\I.AN. The point of order is overrule:!. The in proportion to its cost." question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order Kansas. on the amendment. The question was taken. Mr. ANTHONY. Mr. Chairman, in reference to the point of The CHAIRMAN. The noes appear to have it. The noes order I think if the provision which this amendment supplants have it, and the Clerk will read. was in order, and has been held in order. that the amendment Mr. ANTHONY (from his seat). Mr. Chairman, I ~sk for a which I offer is in order. My reason for offering the amendment division. is that the present provision which provides- l\Ir. FITZGERAL:>. Mr. Chairman, I make the point of order That no part of this sum shall oe used for fuel oils it it ·shall appear that ·--~ gentleman did not rise to ask f.or a division, and that to the board of. managers that coal as a fuel can be procured and used he asked for a division after the Chair had announced the re- more economically- '10816' CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. JUKE 20, -

Is practically worthless as a Umitation on this expenditure. Having ascertained that the president of the Board of Man- The wording or tlle present amendment in the bill is nothing agers of the Soldiers' Homes had requested the Bureau of Mines more or less than a fraud on its face. It says, "if it shall to make such an investigation, it occurred to me that it would be appear to th~:: board of managers." Well, it is liable to appear advisable to have another independent inve tigation made by in most any way to "the board of manngers." I have offered competent authorities. So under date of March 16, 1914, I ad­ an amendment which will .provide, in substance, that the fuel dressed a communication to the Secretary of War and re­ that shall be used shall be the fuel which will procure the great- quested him to have some official attached to the InspectorS' est nnmber of thermal units of heat in prorJortion to its cost. Department or the Quartermaster Corps of the Army m:1kc That is the method the War Department and other departments an investigation of the plant at the Leavenworth Home and use in purchasing fuel, and if incorpornted in this bill will no report to the committee what it would cost to properly equip longer permit the board of managers to dodge the present limi- the home for the utilizaUon of coal, and whether in hiR opinion tation which is in the bill. There has been a greHt deal of con- it would be more economical to use coal or oil. Here was an­ tcntion as to which is the cheapest fuel at the LeHvenworth other department of the Government that could have no interest Hoine. I will admit it is not a precise thing; there have been in a controversy as to which was the better. The report c..lf the se>ernl reports made upon this question, all of them different; investigation was made, and that report was submitted to· the and I am just going to read one short extract from the lHtest committee, and from that investigation and report it says that report on the ·ubject. bec::~use it is the >ery latest thing from changes are necessary to equip the plant for the economical use tbe Bureau of ~lines in reference to the question. This is under of coal which would require an expenditure of approximately date of June 10, the present month. and probably later than $75.000. The Bureau of Mines estimated $77.000. And it is anything that has been hnd by the committee on that question. stated that two kinds of coal are available-a high grade, It is si~ned by Van H. 1\Ianning, A sistant Director, and is as which costs $2.54 per ton, and a lower grade, which costs 2.25 follows: per ton. The Bureau of Mines estimated that the coni cost · A rC'port to the Director of the Bureau of Mines shows that the $2.86 per ton, the cost paid by the Leavenworth prison. And LeavC'nworth plant could probably save. from $7,000 to $8,700 ~r ye~ll' in this report it snys that, with the investment required. after if properly equippE-d to burn the most economical coal (Chero e Mill we would spend $75.000 for. the equipment. we would then save nun) to be bad in their market. • Now, that is an entirely different coal and comes at a dis- by the use of coal $609.50 a year. And the report continues: ·1 f 1 fi ld 1 d t The above comparisons are based on the cost of oil as given In the tance o f 100 IDI es a wny rom our coa e · 0 no care letter of the quartermaster referred to. It is noted that the oil in quos- what coal they burn or what fuel they burn. but I want them to tion costs $1.14 per barrel, which cost, considering the quantity pur­ burn the most economical fuel. And if the House will adopt chased, would seem somewhat high. . dm t hi h I h ff ed I b li •t ·11 ttl th t The comparisons are also based on tbe assumption that the coal nnd thP amen en w c a>e o er • e eve 1 Wl se e a o1l would be used with the same t•elative efficiency. As a matter of much-mooted question for once and all. · fact, the experiences of this office bas shown that oil-burning installu- 1\lr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, this pronsion in the bill tions are operated generally with an increased efficiency over coal of h approximately 50 per cent. This cot·ps is paying fot· oil on the Pacific is no~ effecti-ve, and the responsibility can not b e P 1nee d on t e const, under pt·E'sent contrncts. 80 cents per barrel, as compat·ed wltb members of the Committee on Appropriations. It is the provi- $1.14 p:lld at Leavenworth (Kans.) Branch of the National Rome for sion drafted and offered by the gentleman from Kansas [~fr. Disabled Volunteers. As a general proposition, considering tbe efficiency "N"fHONY] himself '"'lid accepted by the Committee on Appro- with which oil is used and the many advnntages as a labor-saving de­ A • " vice, it would seem reasonable, even with the low price quoted for coal, priations in order to preYent the expenditure of money for fuel that tbe oil-burning installation should be more economical. at this home in a way that would neither be economical or just. Now, the plant is equipped for the burning of oil. Here are Now, there has been n controversy as to whether or not it reports from two independent, impartial bureaus of the Go>ern­ was more profitable to the Go-vernment to utilize coal or oil at ment, both of which contend that in order to equip this plant the Leavenworth Branch of the National Soldiers' Home. The to burn coni it will necessitate an expenditure of at least Board of l\Iun:urers ha-re contended that it was more economical $75.000, and in the end we would hale gained nothing, either to burn oil, and that to burn coal economically would require in efficiency or economy. an inYestment of about $75.000 for new equipment. Now, the provision in the bill is- The gentleman from Kansas [Mr. ANTHONY] early in the that no pat·t of this sum shall be u cd for fuel oil if it s·ball appear to ses ion conferred with me nnd stated that this controversy had the board of managers that coal as fuel can be procured nnd used more gone on for several years; that it was impo sible for ns to get economically. an ngreement; and that if arrangements would be made to have The board of mana.gers have contended that coal can not be an investigation by an impartial and disinterested official, get procured and used more economically, and their reiterated state­ n report and settle this question, it would end this controversy. ments are now substantiated by the report of the Bureau of Be s11ggested that the Bureau of 1\fines be requested to make ~fines and the report of tho Quartermaster Department of the such an inTestigation. I ascertnined that the president of the War Department. Board of Managers of the Soldiers' Home had requested the I hope that the amendment of the gentleman from Knnsas Burenu of Uines to make this inYestigation. We got the report [Mr. AN'I"HONY] will not be adopted, because it is so worded and the report confirms the contention of the board of manngers, that if enacted it may be :intpossible to utilize any of the fund a report bused upon a visit of an inspector from the Bureau of at all for fuel, unless we appropriated $75,000 for equipment in l'lfines to the Lea>enworth Home lasting from February 9 to the event that coal is to be used. February 19. inclush·e: Mr. ANTHONY. There is no question, 1\Ir. Chairman, th11t Now, let me read from his report: this appropriation for fuel at the We tern Bl'anch Home has In pt·eparing the estimates which follow, the fact was kept in mlnd been the cause of more juggling of figures than has ever before that th£'re arc orne 3,000 persons in the institution who a.re dependent been attempteu by any Government board that has looked into upon the power plant fot· light. heat, and power, and in large measure for the cooking of the meals. TbE>re are two general policies, either of such a matter. Some officials have returned reports that have wllich might b~ followed ill changing the plant so that coal co-uld be an almost fictitious bearing on the matter, and they have taken used, nnd estimates are included for each. One is to limit the invest- the widest liberty in assuming items of co t of coal that abso­ ment and make thP chan~e with the least initial expense, and the other is to install uch mechanical equipment as will insure convenience of lutely misrepresent the situation. operation and continuity of service, and at the same time reduce the I want to be frank with the Hou e. I am making this fight operating expense. for the use of the most economical fuel at that branch primarily Estimates are bal>ed on a price for oil of $L1425 per barrel in tank bec"u e .t .s lll. a coal-mi'ning district. Thei'e "re ,200 miners cars f. o. b. the switch at the home, and for coal of $2.86 per long ton '"' 1 1 - '"' 1 in coal bins or storage pit at the home. The above figure for oil i<; the employed in the mines immediately adjacent to this in titution; price being paid this year, and that for coal is the price being paid for and I wouhl be derelict in my duty if I did not appear here on Lea\'enworth coal at tbe Federal prison in cars f. o. b. their switch. The cstimntes throughout arc based upon the assumption that Lenven- the floor and insist that their product be utilized in the Gov- wol·th coal will be used if the change in fuel is made, for the reason ernment instjtutions near by when it can be purchased by the that no other coal was offered when pt·oposals were called for on a GoYernment for less money than any other fuel. contract for 13,000 tons for the prison. Audit!onal boilers and anotbet· stack will be necessary if a change of The board of managers let the cat out of the bag on this fuel is made. The installation of these boilers will nec{'ssltate the fuel question in the letter that they addressed to the ·Burean removal of tbe shop at the end of the boiler t·oom, and an adllitional of Mines asking for this inYestigation, which, by the way, I building is included for tbis purpose. The estimates for depreciation have been "Ski'ng for for ... '"'e"r and could not ~et "nybody to nnd maintenancE' are based only on the additional investment if coal '"' <-< " '"' ~ ... is to be used and on that pat·t of the present plant that would be move until recently. At the bottom of the letter to the Bureau replaced if the change were made. of Mines -was the simple statement from the pre~ident of the And then the estimates are included. The annual operating board of "managers that, "I have instructed the officials at the expenses for coal are $62.000; hand-fu·ed, $71,000; coal stokers, Western Branch to furnish you all their information and fig. $61,100. Tbe necessary in...-estment in order to burn coal is for I ures,'' and so forth. It was very kind in them to furnish the coal, hand-fired, $21,100; for coal stokers, $77,200. figures, and it is true that the deduction made by both of the . . . 1914. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 10817,

in>estigations tba t hn>e IJeen had have been based upon figures Mr. ANTHONY. Does not the Quartermaster's Department kindly furnisheu by the officials of the home. come to the gentleman's committee for its appropriations, and Now, what do they do? They take an arbitrary cost of the would that department dare to return a report contrary to the coal there that is anything but correct. They have not used gentleman? _ · coal at that branch for a good many years. When they did use Mt. FITZGERALD. I decline to yield to the gentleman. The coal there, this household item was about $87,000. No·w, it is Quartermaster's Department does not come to the Committee about $100,000. That difference represents the increase of cost vn Appropriations for its appropriation but goes to the Com­ of oil oYer coal for fuel. mittee on Military Affairs, of which the gentleman from Kan­ Furthermore, I am surprised that the Committee on Appro­ sas is a member. The Quartermaster's Department makes an priations allows itself to be bamboozled by the board of man­ investigation and finds certain facts, and those facts are con­ agers on this fuel question, as has repeatedly been done. trary to what the gentleman from Kansas wishes, and so the I want to call the attention of the chairman to a statement War Department is in a conspiracy against him. Then, be­ made in the hearings, which, on the face of it, will not be borne cause the Committee on Appropriations accepts the statements out by the facts. In the analysis of this household estimate for made by the represenr.atives of the Bureau of Mines and the the Western Branch appears the item for fuel, including gas and Quartermaster's Department in preference to these wild, vision­ oil, also water and electric light, at this WesternBranch,$68,000. ary statements of the gentleman from Kansas, he asserts that Last year they expended $63,000 for fuel oil alone, and the the chairman of the committee was bamboozled by these two combined cost of the gas and electricity and the water at the departments because he accepted what they said instead of ac­ Leavenworth Home was $25,000, which would leave only $43,000 cepting these specific, accurate statements of the gentleman for the purchase of fuel. Now, how in God's name they can f-rom Kansas. do it under this appropriation is more than I can see and more I do not know what the ptesident of the board of managers than the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations can see. wrote to the Bureau of l\1ines, but I do know what I wrote to But I will tell you how they will do it. They will do it by sub­ the Secretary of War; and, so that the gentleman from Kansas terfuge, as they did last year. will not be indulging in any wild imaginings as to what I had Last year, as the gentleman knows, after appearing before written-my letter is printed in the hearings-and for the bene­ his committee and stating that $100,000 would be sufficient for fit of the House, I will read it to show how the Quartermaster's this item of "household," the committee took them at their Department was induced to engage in this conspiracy to pre­ word. I told the committee at the time that it was not sufficient, vent the coal produced in the gentleman's district being used that it would cost them more money. But the committee took instead of oil produced outside. I wrote to the Secretary of the word of the board of managers. What does the inspector War, as follows: of the War Department say in the report that was filed in the MARCH 16, 1914. Hon. LINDLEY M. GARRISON, House and which has gone . to the Committee on Military Af­ Sec-retary of Wa1·. fairs? Maj. Jackson, the Assistant Inspector General, calls DEAR Sm: '.Vhe Committee on Appropriations oLthe House of Repre­ the attention of the War Department and of the House to the sentatives is desirous of ascertaining the probable cost of installing a fact that after Congress had appropriated for fuel they came coal-burning plant in place of the present oil-burning plant for furnish­ ing heat, light, and J?OWer at the Leavenworth (Kans.) Branch of the b~ck for a deficiency of $6,000 at the Leavenworth Branch. National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers. Because of the contro­ After you had given them that in the deficiency bill the ver·sy of several years' standing between the authorities of the national board of managers raided the post or the posthumous fund and home and parties desiring to supply coal for fuel at the Leavenworth Branch lt is very desirable on the part of the committee to obtain a re­ took $8,000 out of that fund. The board of managers misled port ln the premises from some entirely disinterested and capable source, you. hence the suggestion that your department be invoked to aid in the matter. Mr. COOPER. What did that make the total? I have therefore to request that through the Inspector's Department Mr. ANTHONY. It made the total $63,000, whereas in the or the QuartNmaster Corps of the Army, or both, you will have the estimate it shows only about $43,000, on which they said they matter carefully inquired into and a report made thereon through you to the committee within the next 30 days. Incidentally, the committee could get along for fuel. - would be pleased to have any information developed by the inquiey as So I say the statement they make this year is fraudulent. to the relative cost and efficiency, after installation, of using coal or oil They can not get along with $43,000 for fuel. It is impossible for fuel at this branch of the soldiers' home. to do that with either coal or oil, and all I am asking Congress Very truly, yours, (Signed) J. J. FITZGERALD, is to put a limitation on this appropriation that means some­ _ Chair-man Committee on Approp·riatiom, thing; to compel them to get under the thermal unit system, House of Rept·esentatives. which is the system now in use in other departments of the A report was made to the Secretary of War by the Chief of Government. Then the board can not i·esort to any further sub­ the Quartermaster Corps. There was a special reason for re­ terfuge on the matter, but have got to come through straight questing a report from the War Department. It bas a large and clean. Army post at Leavenworth, where this home is established. It Mr. KELLEY of Michigan. Will the gentleman agree with the is burning coal at that post. If it had any partiality at all, it chairman of the Committee on Appropriations that it would cost would not be in favor of a fuel that it is not using itself. It $75,000 to make the change in the heating system? would be likely to attempt to show that it was using the more Mr. ANTHONY. It would cost a considerable amount. I con­ economical fuel at this large post. It took the figures as to the tend it could be done for very much less than that, but the cost of coal from the amount that it was paying under large experts have hit on the figure of $75,000 in order to scare off contracts made for the supply of coal. the House, in order to give an excuse to them not to buy coal Now, it is unfortunate that it so happens that the expert of from the coal miners of my district, but in order to continue to the Bureau of 1\Iines, who spent 10 days at the national home, patronize the Standard Oil Co., which has a refinery in Missouri and. the representatives of the quartermaster's department, after near by. Now, I suppose it is hopeless for me to stand here and their· in>estigation, both reached the conclusion arrived at by continue to plead for this amendment. Probably it will be voted an engineer in the employ of the board of managers a year or down, as all the rest of them were, but next year when the defi­ two ago, that it would require $75,000 or $77,000 properly to ciencies come in under this appropriation I will have the satis­ equip this oil-burning plant so that it could burn coal. faction of being able to say to the gentleman froin New York What makes the gentleman from Kansas so irritated is that [1\Ir. FITZGERALD] that I told him SO. be promised at the last session of Congress that if an impartial l\I:. FITZGERALD. 1\Ir. Chairman, the gentleman from investigation was made by some disinterested officials of the Kansas [Mr. ANTHONY] seems to think that everybody is in a department of the GoYernment, that my statement that it would conspiracy against what he desires. take $75,000 to make the change would be shown to be so ill Mr. ANTHONY. I think the gentleman from New York is in founded that I would be ashamed to have made it. Now. I have a conspiracy to thwart what I desire in reference to the soldiers' done the best I can, and if there is any other bureau of the Gov­ hcmes. ernment that bas facilities and information and k!lowledge that Mr. FITZGERALD. First, the board of managers were doing makes it competent to report upon this question which will be him an injustice because they would not accept his suggestion acceptable to the gentleman from Kansas, I shall be very h

U wonlll be ·more Eatisfnctory to 'IDe ,if be conl!l demonstrate 'The CHAIRMAN, 1'hat is true. lthnt it would be more economical for coal to be burned there. ; 1\Ir. FITZGERALll. A'nd I 1wd stnted it wn·s clearly legisla- a:t would •eliminate some cortrovel'sy in the Honse jn the con- rtion. An exnminntion of the amendment discloses thnt fnct. It sideration of this bU, and would relieve rue of the necessity of · .requires the -pnrcllases to be made under certain regulations. b-urdening my ·elf year niter year witb ... dditional irrvestigati0n, which is a limitation -upon the power of the department. U is Jditianal reports. ndditionnl fncts ·to r_emind :M:embe.t·s of -the legislation. srrme olcl story, with :n mo·re foundation this year ·tba:n it had ' The CHAIRl\IAN. · 'But 'the Holman rule pr•ovides: last. illhe more we in"i'estigffte it rt:he less justific:'tion there is · Nor shall any pr'lvision in any such bill OL' amendmr?nt thereto :in advocating whnt .be desires. This amendment. 'MT.. Chairman, changing existing ·law 'be in ·order, excr?pt such ns l>r?1ng g('l'mane -to the as cieurly legislation, .and l insist .on Lhe [point of order. sub:Ject ·matteJ· of the bill shall retrl'nch exor?nditnrl's bv the rl'duction of the number anti ~nlary of the officers of the Unrted' States by the 1\Ir. Al'THONY. Mr. Chnirman, 1 ask for 'fiTe minutes. reduction .of -the ~ompensation of any .Person paid tJUt of thl' Treasury The OHAJilMAN. The gentleman ham Kansas asks unn.ni- ·of the Vmted States, ar by the 1·eduction ·at amounts of money covered (!)US :con ent to add:ress the •committee for frve minutes. ls by the bill. lliere ·abjection'? l\Ir. FITZGERALD. How dCE3 the amendment in any w:~y There wns no objection. ·come within that rule? J:f the Chair will exmnine the nmend- Alr. A...1~'THO~;J:. Mr. Chairman. the reparts of these inTestl- ment, ·he will see that it does not :reduce the compensation of -gators would be \ery ·good indeed if it were 'DOt .for the fact ' any ]Jerson paid out (Jf the Treasury of the United Stutes, it that'tbe ·bonTd of'lllonagers snppresses from :them one important ,does. l?o~ re duc~ a salary n:nd it does not reduce the .amount 1fnct. ..In these .reports ·coming t o the OommHtee ~ on Appro- • earr1ed n the bill. priations they stnte that it will cost from $2.60 to $2.84 ·per ton . ~he CRAJm1AN. That is the :Point npon wbieh the Chair fm· .coal 111 the Le::rvenworth institution. Tlley c.nrefnlly sup- · desired •to henr fie gentleman. r_press the fact that there ·is ·a contract on :file' with ·the rboa-rd l\Ir. FITZGERA!I.J). lit specifically vequires the pur<'.hase of rof mnnageTs. which has seme -years yet to -rnn and •whlch. in 1lle ~oal to be made -und:r certain re~ulat~o-ns. from which the ·cbatr "Opinion of ccrmpetent authority~ :call unoo1lbtedly be enforced. · Is unable t~ determme w~eth~r tt w1~ ~e an increase or a de­ -whiCh ci>es t:he Government all the coaJ th.Ht tt wants at $2.25 crease. It IS purely n legislntive prons10n. ·a ton. e. Why ao they not take '$2.25 a ton. the contract price 1\Ir. ANT.HO ... 'Y.. Mr~ 'Ohnir.mnn, I think that amendment is of coal? Thnt is the -nigger in the woodpile. They .are dodging purely along the line of -economy. 'It .provides that only the he real prioe nt ;whicb coalJ •ca11 be secured. che::~pest coal shall be purchased. and ;there is no twisting ot 1\lr. TAGGART. Wlll the gentleman vield'! the Engli-Rb lan~uage thnt ·could mHke it mean anything else. 1\Ir. ANTHOXY. Yes. · The CHAIRMAN. The Chair :will state to the gentleman Mr. TAGGART. !s there any other institution in that whole from 1Kansas th~t if the ~mendment is in order at nll it must be region, beginning with the F.ederal prison, the Army post, a under the'followmg wordmg cf the Holman rule: combined city of 2f>O.OOO people .30 .miles from there filled 11p rQr by the rec1uotion of i:be amounts of money •covered by the bill. !With rmnnufacturing plants of :different kinds. a $10,000.000 The 'Chair 'Will say candidly tha-t when he fiTst ren.d the 'Oil .refinery-is there an:y other institution except the soldiers' amendment it seemed to him thnt innsmncb as it p1·ovided that borne at Len,enworth that bUl'DS oil d'or fuel? the~ gentlemen should buy this fnel where they could get rt tbe .Air. ..A.. i"."IT'HOXX' . Not a single one, for they all know thnt it -cheapest, that that did reduce the .amount of the bill; but as a tis more economical ·to burn coril. Now, the gentleman from 'matter of fnct, it does not. New Yo1'k b!ls uiJuded to a "conspiracy." It is pretty 'hard to Mr. ANTHONY. How cari. the Chair explain that in any dif- amderst:md ·where a conspiracy exists on my side of the qnes- ferent wny? That is the purpose of the amendment. tion, bnt to anyone who understands the rnmifications of N{'W The CHAIRMAN. The amount of money cal'ried by the bill :York politics it is not difficult to understand the animus of the remains the same, whether the amendment be adopted or not. ~entJiernan from New R'orli: in urging the ~iews of the bon rd. 1\lr. ANTH;O~TY. Oh, no; if it is determined one way, it will "l'he president o-f the Board of MnnHgers of the ~ oldiers' Home cost the Go>ernment more; and if it is determined another 'lulppens to be the mninstay cf the u,p-State Republicans of New ;way, it will cogt the GoTernment less. York Stnte. a spoke in the wheel of this Republicn.n "organizn.- "The CHAIRMAN. Under the amendment the amount of the tion." and the gentleman from New York. chairman of the Com- -appropriation ·remains the same. It was under fhat considel'­ mittce on Appropriations, is one of the leaders of the Tam- ation that tha Chair at fir t decidea that tt:he entions by TammRny Hall becnuse I was not a member of day night and it is now half past 5 o'clock. its organization and was not in symputhy with its action. The 1\!r. FITZGERALD. 1\Ir. Chairman. P think we on~ht to go .gentleman from 1\ew York, 1\lr. Wndsworth. is not in politi<'s nbend a little long:er. We could eRsily ,it late to-night. We so f;.tr as I am aware. He served in this Honse for 20 yen.rs ha~e not many days left, and the bill ought to go to the Senate as soon as possible. with distinotion. He was an honorable and is -an honor-able l\Ir. MA_ 'N. 1 am perfectly wi1llng to sit late some night nnd reputable citizen. next week. but this is Saturday night. The tronule with the gentleman from Kans:rs is, and his Mr. FITZGERALD, Oh, y<*l; bnt it is always Satw·uny -grie>ance is. that I won1d not in the fnce of the facts present night with the gentleman wllen my bill js up. The last time to tlle Committee on Appropriations and ad,·ocnte the bm·ning the bill wns up it was SaturdaF o.I last week. of coal 'in the We tern Branch of the Nationnl Soldiers' Home 1\!r. 1\!ANN. That is true. when one of his relatives wns the most hugely interested pro- 1\!r. FITZGERALD. 1 think we ought to try and mnke more 'PPietor in the coal mines from which the coal was to come. progress ,0 n the bill. n I.Dfty be possible to get this bill ena<'ted [Applause.] Thnt explains his persistency in using coal and into law before the last of the fiscal year. I do not know .not oil in this home. whether it will or not. It can not be eu:tcted nnless we sit The CHA.IRl\fAN. The ChaiT thinks the nmendment is in longer, and I think we ought to stay Jonger to-night. order. The qneRtion is on the ndoption of the amendment. l\Ir. MAJ\'N. How far does the gentleman thin!' he ought to Mr. STAFl!'ORD. May we ha¥e the amendment reported? rend? l\Ir. FITZGEHALD. Mr. Chairman. I would like to be beard Mr. FJTZGERALD. Oh. to about pa;;e 14 . on the point of order. 1.'he nmendrnent provides ns to thermal 1\Jr. MANN. If that is the case, I think we ougllt to have a units. una certainly that is legislation, for there is no author-- quorum present. ity for it. Mr. FITZGERALD. I think the House ou~bt to determine 'l'be CHAIDMAN. The Chair will be g1ad to hear ·fue gentle- whether it is going to stay here or not. I shall not voluntarily man on the point of order. The Cbair understood that. inns- ask the House to quit. · •much as the gentleman addressed his remarks almost entirely l\1r. MANN. 1\lr. Chairman, I make tlle point of order tbnt 1:o _ the merits of the proposition, he did not care to press the there is no quorum present. and sugge t tllnt it will take until })Oint of order.. 12 o'clock to-night to pass tile soldiers' homes items, e•en if we Mr. FITZGERALD. But I had reserved the point of order.. have a quorum. 1914. QONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 10819

The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman . from Illinois [Mr. The SPEAKER. The Chnir will hear the gentlemnn. 1\IANN] make the point of order that there is no quorum M.r. MANN. I call the attention of the Chair to the mannaT, which is so~ewhat of a guide in the proceedings of the House. present? Mr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, I make the point of order there On page 372 the rule is : Whenever the Committee of the Whole House or of tbe Whole House ls no quorum present. . on the state of the Union finds itself without a quorum-wblcb RbnU The CHAIRMAN. Tbe Chair will count. [After counting. 1 consist of 100 Members-the Chairman shall cause the roll to be Sixty gentlemen are present, less than a quorum, and the Clerk called, and thereupon the committee shall rise, and the Chairman shall repo1·t the names of the absentees to the House, which shall be entered will call the roll. on the Journal; but if on such call a quorum shall appear, the com­ The Clerk called the roll, and the following Members failed mittee shall thereupon resume its sitting without further order o:t the to answer to their names : House. Aincy Fess Kreider Riordan The Speaker will find the following note : .Anderson Fi('lds Lafferty Roberts, Mass. After the committee has risen nnd reported its roll call, a motion to .An~;heny Finley Langba.m Rogers adjourn is in order before direction as to resumption of the session . .Ashbrook Flood. Va. Langley Rouo;e Avis Floyd, Ark. Lef', Ga. Rucker Referring to Hinds, volume 4, paragraph 2969. That motion Bakl!r Fo•·dney L'Engle Sabatb pad been made, according to my distinct recoJJection, many Barnhart Fowler I~enroot Saunders nartholdt Francis Lesher Scott times while both the Speaker and myself have been .Members Bell. Ga. Frear Lewis, Md. Scully id of the House. Bln<'kmon Gallivan Lewis, Pn. Seldomr ge It is true, if the motion to adjourn does not prevail and a Borland Gardner Lieb Sells Bowdle Garner Lindbergh Sha:::kleford quorum is not shown, that the failure of a quorum does not Broc ·son Ga rrf'tt, Tenn. Lindquist Sharp prevent the Chair directing that the committee resume its Brodbeck Gf'orge Llntb1cum Sherley Broussard Gerry LJoyd Sherwood sitting. Brown, N.Y. Gill Loft ~r~~ve Mr. UNDERWOOD. But, Mr. Speaker, I think the question Brown, W.Va. Gillett Lo~e S tt presented by the gentleman from Illinois [l\Ir. MANN] is prac­ RrownE', Wis. Gilmore Lonf'rgnn inno ticaJJy the same question presented here a short time ago by Brownin~ Gittins :McAndi·ews Slayden Bruckner Glass McCoy ·Ss~~Y the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. GARDNER], and in which Brumbaugh Godwin, N.C. McUf'I'mott the House sustained the decision of the Chnir, and I think Buchanan, Ill. Goeke McGuirf'. Okla. Smith, Md. Bulkley Goldfoglc McKellar Smith •.J. M. C. after the decision was rendered the Speaker announced to n rke. Pa. Good McKPnzie Smith. Minn. the House that he bad reached the conclusion that the proper Burke.11 S.Dak. Gm·don MacDonald Smith, N.Y. procedure would have been not to recognize the gentleman Burnett Gorman Marlden Smith, Tex. Bntler Grabnm. Pa. Mahan Stanley for any motion when we went back into the House to report Calder GrE'Pn. Iowa Maher Stedman a quorum, and that automatically the committee should resume Callaway GrE'E'ne, Vt. Manahan Steenerson its session. I think that is the case, Mr. Speaker. There is Canror Gn'gg Martin StephE'nSt.~Tex. Cantrill Gr!e<;t l\IE'rrltt Stevens, .N.H. no reason, if a quorum is shown to be present, why anyone CarPW Griffin Metz Stout should be recognized for a motion to adjourn or another mo­ carlin Hamill Miller S ~· 1rz~~r tion. Because when we go back into the committee it is abso­ Casey Humilton. N.Y. 'MitcheU 8 1 ('handler, N.Y. Hnmm0nd Montague Talbott. Md.. lutely in the control of the committee. which is a part of the Clnncv Rnrdwi~k Moor~.> Talcott, N.Y. House, to rise and go back· into the House and adjourn if they Clark. Fla. Hnrl'ls Morgan, La.. Taylor. Ala. desire to do so. And I think it is merely a question of recog­ l 1 na ·t Morin Taylor, Colo. C aypoo Hny1 MoJ·r!son Taylor, N.Y. nition in the end as to whether the Speaker will recognize a ~~Mlr Ra~<1f:'n MO!';S, w. va. Temple gentleman to make n motion or whether he will call the Connf'lly, Kans. Hayes )fott Thacher Chairman to the chair and allow the committee to resume its ('opley Hcl!!est>n Mnrdock Thomas Covln~ton Henry Mnrray, Mass. Towner session. The correct practice of the House, decided some Cmmton Hinds NPell.'y, Kans.. ~'own . end weeks ago, is for the Chair-- Crisp Hobson Neely, W.Va. Treadway The SPEAKER. Was an appeal taken from the Speaker's Dale Howard Nelson Tribble Danforth Hoxworth Norton Tuttle decision on tbnt day? Dn venport HnabPs, W.Va. O'Rrien Vare 1\fr. UNDERWOOD. My reco11cction is that an appeal was Decker Hu11ngs O~rl<•shy Vaughan I Deitriek Humphrey, Wne~h. O'Leary Vollmer taken, and moYed to lay the appeal on the table, and by an Dent Humphreys. Miss. O'Shaoneay Wallin emphatic majority the House laid the appeal on the table; Dickinson lg(\f' Pag-e. N.C. Walsh and that there was a roll call on the question when it was Dies Johnson, TTtab Paige, Mass. Watson Dlfpnderfer Johnson, Wash. Palmer Weaver before the House. Dillon Jonos Parker Wf'bb Mr. MAl\"N. The recognition of the motion to ndjourn does Donohoe KE'IRtPr Patten, N.Y. Whaley not rest with the Speaker. The motion to adjourn is a priv.. Dooling Kc•llv. T'n.. Patton. Pa. Whitacre Dor·emue Kcnnf'cly, lowa Peters, Me. White ileged motion. If it is in order. the Speaker can not refuse to DrL.,coll KPnnt>

for tbe House, then, on an appeal, to determine whether the instead of reducing the appropriation had submitted informa.. i•ecent ruling· of the Speaker is the proper ruling or whether the tion ..hat it was necessary for the proper <'Onduct of the home l'Ulings of his predecessors on the subject were proper rulings. to increase the appropriation, the committee would have made The SPEAKhR. But the House bas ulready decicled thllt once. that recommendation. If there is any criticism to be made for Mr. MANN. That may be. I understand the House decided the reduction of this sum, it is not the Democratic ?\!embers of thnt once, but you can not always reverse a long line of prece­ Congress that should be criticized but the Renoblican members dents by one decision. I want to know what is to be the ruling of the Board of Managers of the National Soidiers' Home who of tl1e House--not merely of this Speaker, but of Speakers who have requested that the appropriation for this purpose be re­ may follow him. duced by $500. 1\Ir. UNDERWOOD. Mr. Speaker, if I may say just one ~1r .. MOXDELL. Mr. Chairman. the committee, in preparing word, I think I was in error a moment ago when I said that this b11l, endeavored to economize as far as it could consistently when the gentleman from Illinois rose to make tis motion the do so, because it unde ·stood the condition of the Trcely in silver certificates. ments; and for stationery, advertising, legal advice, for pay­ Mr. DOXOV AN. Mr. Chairman-- ments due heirs of deceased members. The CllAIRMAN. Will the gentleman from Wyoming yield Now, just why the committee thought it its duty to reduce thE' to the gentleman from Connecticut? sum from $27,000 to $26.500 I do not know. I suppose it WllS Mr. DOXOV AN. I do not want him to yield Mr. Chairman.. because of thE' condition of the Treasury. E\·ery dollar th:tt I insist on the point of order that he is not ~eaking on the the committee can cut off from an appropriation is now con­ subject mn tter. sidE'rro quite a big sum. They had to skin a II of these thiTigs. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair thinks the gentleman from 'l'hink of the great Committee on Appropriations in reference Wyoming wns re-asonably within his rights. to soldiers' homes being so closefisted thllt it proposes to J'('>dnce Mr. DONOV Al~. Mr. Chairman. if the Chair will say "the the approprintion for all these items from $47.000 to ~6,50t). geut.leman's usual way of being within his rights," I think the I wonder they did not make it $4fl.499. That would have sa>etl Charr would state it correctly. [Laughter.] one more dollnr from the appropriations. Have we come to th·~ 1\Ir. l\IOXDELL. Mr. Chairman, in view of this unfortunate point in the history of our country and the Treasury statementl'l condition of the Treasury, this constantly growin(J' excess o1! where we haYe to cut off' an item of $500 for the support nf expenditures o>er receipts, this constant outward fi~w of gold soldiers' homes. split even tLousnnds, coming from $47.000 down this necessity of paying the employees of the Government i~ to $46,ri00? Can not we raise enough money to provide the silver certificates. in order to maintain a gold reserve--in view; odd $UOO? Why. I think the gentleman from Xew York ought of all these facts, the gentleman from Illinois ought to under"' to be able to contribute thnt out Jf his own pocket. sta nd that we must saYe. that we must cut down these appr()-1 Mr. FITZGERALD. l\lr. Chairman. the renson is so simpl.~ prin tion bills, if it is only in the sum of $500. that I am surprised that the gentleman from Illinois shonid The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Wyom.ing ask it. The appropriatiOn for the current year was $47.000. bas expired. · The estimates were $47,000. When the items were under ex­ Mr. DOXOVAN. Mr. Chairman, I move that the committee amination Maj. Harris, the treasurer of the Board of l\lnnagcrs do now rise. of the Soldiers' Home. was before the Committee " n Approprin­ The CR.J\.IRl\lAN. The question is on the motion of the geno~ tions, with other members of the board. Taking these item:;, tleman from Conne<..ticut that the committee do now rise. I said, "The next item is for the Pncific Branch, Santa l\Ionka, The question was taken; and on a division (demanded b~ CaL For current expenses the appropriation is $47,000, and Mr. DoNOVAN) there were--a:ves 47, noes 43. . you are asking for $47.000... Maj. Hnrris said. "That c~n t:Je Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Chairman, I demand tellers. reduced to $46,500." As those in <;barge of ~e homes. responsi­ Tellers were ordered. ble for their administration. volunteered the informntion tlutt 1\Ir. FITZGERALD and Mr. DoNovAN were appointed to act as upon. further consideration they did not require $47.000 but only tellers. reqmred $46.500, the committee acqt1iesced in their reco::n- The committee again divided, and ihe tellers reported ayes M~ ):rienda tion without any thought of whether the Treasury would noes 46. 1 .,e ~ffected one way or t~e other. ~ the board of managers, So the motion was agreed to, li0822 CONGRESSIONAL-RECORD-HOUSE. JUNE 20,

~ The committee accordingly- rose ; and the Speaker having resumed the chair, Mr. Pou, Chairman of the Committee of the ·The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. iWhole House on the state of the Union, reported that that com­ Mr. DONOVAN. What is a sufficient number; one-fifth of mittee had had under consideration the bill H. R. 17041, the the whole number or one-fifth of 100 or one-fifth of what? sundry civil appropriation bill, and had come to no resolution The SPEAKER. The gentleman has two things mixed. This thereon. is in the House, and a fifth of the 1\Iembers Yotlng on the last vote in the House can order the yeas and nays. 'Ihe Clerk will ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED. call the roll. The SPEAKER announced his signature to enrolled bills of The question was taken; and there were-yeas 50, nays 73, the following titles: answered "presen~" 5, not voting 30t>~ as follows: S. 4377. An act to provide for tha construction of two revenue cutters; and YEAS-50. Alexa~der S. 661. An act for the relief of the widow of Thomas B. Mc­ Anthony Hawley Payne Clintic, deceased. g~~~hem Hayes Roberts, Nev. Barcbfeld Donovan Howell Rupley Barton Elder LEAVE OF ABSENCE. Bell, Cal. Johnson, Ky. Smith, Idaho . Esch , . . ~ Kahn Stafford Bowdle Kennedy, Iowa By unanimous consent, leave of absence was granted as Britten ~:~i.onex; Stephens, Cal. follows: Kindel Stephens, Miss. Bryan French McLaughlin Sutherland To Mr. Wn\Go, for three days, on account of important busi­ Buchanan, Tex. Greene. Mass. Mann Taylor, Ark. ness. Caraway Guernsey Cary Mapes Thomson, Ill, To Mr. LoBECK, indefinitely, on account of illness in his family. Hamilton, Mich. MondeiJ Volstead Church Hardy Morgan. Okla. To Mr. DOBEMus, for one week, on account of important Cox Haugen I. business. Nolan, J. NAYS-73. SUNDBY CIVIL A.PPBOPBIA.TION BILL. AbcrCi:ombie Crosser Helvering Pat·k Mr. LEVY. Mr. Speaker, I offer the following resolution, Aiken Cullop Hensley Peter10on Aswell Dixon Holland Quin .Which I send to the desk and ask to have read. Bailey Dough ton Houston Raker Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House re­ Baltz Eagle Hughes, Ga. Rauch soh·e itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the state Barkley Edwat·ds Hull Reilly, Conn. Bartlett Faison Jacoway Reilly, Wis. of the Union for the further consideration of the bill H. R. Beakes .... Fergusson Johnson, S.C. Rus ell 1704J, the sundry civil appropriation bill. Borchers Ferris Kennedy, Conn. Stdllc lllr. RAKER. Mr. Speaker-- Burgess Fitzgerald Kettner Taggart Burke, Wis. Fostet• Lee, Pa. Tavenner ' The SPEAKER. For what purpose does the gentleman rise? Byrnes. S.C. Gallagher Levy TenEyck Mr. RAKER. For the purpose of making a request for unani­ Byrns. '£enn. Gard Lobeck Thompson, Okla. mous consent, and to inform the house that while nothing has Candler, Miss. Gittins McGillicuddy Underwood Carr Goulden Maguire, Nebr. Walker erupted here iu the House, there is a new volcano in my dis­ Cline Graham, Ill. Murray, Okla. Watkins trict-- Collier Gray O'Hair Connolly, Iowa Heflin Oldfield The SPEAKER. The question is on the motion of the gen­ Conry Helm Palmer tleman from New York that the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union for ANSWERED " PRESEJNT "-5. Dooher Hlll Sloan the further consideration of the sundry civil appropriation bill. Gudger Stevens, Minn. The question was taken; and on a division (demanded by Mr. NOT VOTING-305. l\fANN) there were-ayes 38, noes 51. Adair Dickinson Hay McKenzie Mr. FJT'jQERALD. 1\lr. Speaker, I make the point of order Ada mson Die ~ Hayden MacDonald that there is no quorum present. Ainey Difender!er Helgesen Madden AII E> n · l\Ir. 1\IANN. Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now ad­ Dillon Hem·3· Mahan Anderson Donohoe Hinds Maher journ. Ansberry Dooling Hinebaugh Manahan The SPEAKER. The gentleman from New York makes the Ashbrook Doolittle Hobson Martin Au~tiu Doremus point of order that· there is no quorum present. Evidently Howard Muritt A.vis ··, Driscoll Hoxworth Met:>J there is no quorum present, and the gentleman from Illinois Bakel' Drukker Hughes, W.Va. l\Illler moves that the House do now adjourn. Barnhart Dunn Hulings Mitchell Bal'tboldt Dupre Humphrey, Wash. Montague 1\Ir. LEVY. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. Bathrick Eagan Humphreys, Miss. l\Ioon The SPEAKER. The gentleman will stnte it. Beall, Tex. Edmonds lgoe 1\Ioot·e Mr. LEVY. My resolution-- [Laughter.] Bell, Ga. Estoplnal Johnson, Utah Morgan, La:. Blackmon Evans Johnson, Wash. Morin The SPEAKER. The gentleman will have to get unanimous Borland Fairchild Jones Morrison consent for its consideration. Brockson Fess Keating Moss, Ind. · 1\lr. LEVY. But it is a motion to adjourn the Congress on a Brodbeck FiE> Ids Keister Mo s. W. Yn. Broussard Finley Kelley, Mich. Mott certain date. I offered the resolution before the gentleman Brown, N.Y. FitzHenry Kelly, Pa. Murdock from New York :nadc his motion. Brown, W. Va. Flood, Va. Kennedy, R.I. Murray, Mass. The SPEAKER. The motion to adjourn has precedence over Browne, Wis. Floyd, Ark. Kent Neeley. Kans. Browning Fordney Key, Ohio Neely, W.Va. the motion of the gentleman from New York [Mr. LEvY]. Bruckner FowiE>r Kiess. Pa. Nelson · Mr. LEVY. How does the Chair know? He has not yet Brumbaugh Francis Kinkaid, Nebr. Norton heard my resolution read. It is an adjournment resolution. Buchanan, Ill. Frear Kinkead, N. J. O'Btien Bulkley Gallivan Kirkpatrick Oglesby The SPEAKER. The gentleman just stated that it provided Burke, Pa. Gardner Kitchin O'Leary for the adjournment of Congress. Burke, S. Dak. Garner Knowland, J. R. O'Shaunessy :Mr. LEVY. Yes. Burnett Garrett, Tenn. Konop l'adgctt Butler Garrett, ~.L'ex. Kot'IJiy Page, N. C. 'Ihe SPEAKER. The motion to adjourn has precedence over Calder Gc01·_ge Kreider Paige, Mass. any other motion. Callaway Gerry Lafferty Parker Campbell Gill La Follette Patten, N.Y. · Mr. LEVY. Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry. Cantor Gillett Langham Patton, Pa. · The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. Can trill Gilmore L:mgley Peters, Mass. Mr. LEVY. Has it precedence over the resolution of final Carew Glass Lazaro Petet·s, Me. Carlin Godwin, N. C. LeE', Ga. Phelan ~djournment of Congress? Carter Goeke L'Englc Plntt The SPEAKER. Of course ·it has, because it takes a con­ Casey Goldfogle Lenroot Plumley 'Current resolution to adjourn Congress. The question is on Chandler, N.Y. Good Lesher Portel' Clancy Goo'dwin, Ark. I.ever Post the motion of the gentleman from Illinois that the House do Clark. Fla. Gordon Lewis, Md. Pou now adjourn. Claypool Gorman Lewis, Pa. Powe1·s The question was taken ; and on a division (demanded by Coady Graham, Pa. Lieb Prouty Connelly, Kans. Green, Iowa Lindbergh Ra~. dale ·~Ir. FrTzGERAI.D) there were-ayes 53, noes 40. Cooper Greene, Vt. Lindquist Rniney 1\lr. . FITZGERALD. Mr. Speaker, I demand the yeas and Copley Greg~ Linthicum Rnyhm·n nays. Covington Griest Lloyd need Cramton Griffin Loft Rl01·dan 1\Ir. MANN. Mr. Speaker, I make the point of order that that Cri~p Hamlll Logue Roberts, 1\fass. !J:notion is dlla tory. Dale Hamilton, N.Y. Lonergan Rogers Danforth Hamlin McAndrews . Rothermel The SPEAKER. The Chair overrules the point of order. Davenport Hammond McClellan Rouse ,Thirty-four gentleman have risen in the affirmative, a sufficient Davis Hardwick McCoy Rnll<'Y number, and the yeas and nays are ordered. Decker Harris McDermott Rucker Deitrick Hnrt'ison McGuire, Okla. Sabath 1\fr. DONOVAN. ~Ir. Speake~:, a parliamentary inquiry. Dent Hart McKellar. Saunders 1914. CONGRESSIONAL REOOR.D-HOUSE. 10823

~cott Smith, N: Y. · Taylor, N. Y. Webb Mr. MORGAN of Louisiana with Mr. l\IIT.LER. ~cnlly Smith. SamL W. Temple Whaley Mr. PADGETT with lllr. l\IOORE. ~ P idomridge Smith. Tex. '.rhacher · Whitacre S<'IIR · Sparkman Thomas White 1\Ir. PAGE of North Carolina witll Mr. :MORIN. R1 ackleford Stanley Towner Williams Mr. PETERS of Massachusetts witll l\Ir. Moss of West Virginia. Rharp Stedman Townsend Willis Mr. PHELAN with 1\Ir. llloTr. , ·pr lC'y Steenerson Treadway Wilson, Fla. She1·wood Stephens, Nebr. Tribble Wilson, N.Y. Mr. Pou with ~lr. NELSON. S 'n·eve Stephens. Tex. Tuttle Wingo Mr. RAGSDALE with l\Ir. NoRTON. Rims Stevens, N. H. Underhill Winslow Mr. RAINEY wlth l\Ir. PARKER. ~lnnott Stout Vare Witherspoon RIR>=on Stringer Vaughan Woodruff Mr. RAYBUR:8 with Mr. PATTON of Pennsylvania. fllnydl:'n Sumners Vollmer Woods 1\Ir. ·RoUSE with Mr. PLATT. Rlpmp. ~witzl'r Wallin Young, N.Dak. 1\lr. RUBEY with 1\fr. PLUMLEY. ~mall 'l'albott. Md. Walsh Young, Tex. ~mitb. J". M. C. Talcott. N.Y. Walters Mr. RUCKER with l\Ir. PORTER. Smith, Md. Taylor, Ala. Watson 1\lr. SAUNDERS with 1\Ir. PROUTY. Smith, Minn. 'l'aylor, Colo. Weaver 1\fr. SHACKLEFORD wit.h Mr. ROBERTS of 1\Iassa.chusetts. So the m-otion to adjourn -was"Tiot agreed to. l\Ir. SHERWOOD with Mr. ROGERS. The Clerk announced the fol1owing pairs: Mr. SIMS with Mr. ScoTT. From June 18 to JuoP-.20, inclusive: Mr. SISSON with Mr. SELLS. 1\Ir. MORRISON with l\Ir HUMPHREY of Washington. Mr. SMALL with 1\Ir. SHREVE. F'rom June 10 to June 22: 1\Ir. SMITH of Texas with :Mr. SINNOTT. L'. RROWN of New York with l\fr. BROWNE of Wisconsin. 1\fr. SPARKMAN with Mr. SMITH of Minnesota. Ending August 4: · 1\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas with Mr. STEENERBON. ~fr. WEAVER witb Mr. SLOAN. Mr. STRINGER with Mr. POWERS. "lntil further notice: Mr. SuMNERS with 1\Ir. SwiTZER. 1\Ir. SHERLEY with 1\Ir. GILLETT. Mr. THACHER with l\Ir. TEMPLE. Mr. CLANCY with Mr. HAMILTON of New York. Mr. TOWNSEND with 1\Ir. TOWNER. :Mr. NEELEY of Kansns with Mr. 1\IURDOCK. 1\Ir. TRIBBLE with .Mr. TREADWAY. 1\lr. TAYLOR of Ala!Jnrna with ~Jr. HUGHES of West Virginia. :Mr. VAUGHAN with hlr. YARE. Mr. SABATH with 1\Ir. J. ll. KNOWLAND. 1\Ir. WATSON with l\£1'. 'WINSLOW. 1\Ir. SLAYDEN with l\Ir. BuRKE of Pennsylvania. 1\Ir. WEBB with Mr. WooDs. l\fr. DALE with Ur. l\lARTIN. l\lr. WHITE with 1\Ir. WALTERS. J\fr. ALLEN with ~11'. FESS. l\Ir. WINGO with Mr. SAMUEL W. SMITH. 1\Ir. HINDS with l\lr. HENRY. Mr. WITHERSPOON with Mr. YoUNG of North Dakota. l\lr. 1\IcDERMOTT with 1\Ir. WILLIS. Mr. YouNG of Texas with Mr. WooDRUFF. Mr. RTED~IAN with l\fr. PETERS of Maine. For the session : 1\fr·. FIELDS with l\Ir. LA!-iGLEY. . 1\fr. METZ with Mr. WALLIN. 1\Ir. BELL of Georgia with l\Ir. BURKE of South Da.kotn. Mr. ADAMSON with 1\lr. STEVENS of Minnesota. l\Ir. DAVENPORT with 1\Ir. J. l\f. 0. SMITH. l\lr. SCULLY with Mr. BROWNING. 1\Ir. ADAIR with 1\Ir. ArNEY. l\It·. HOBSON with l\Ir. FAIRCHILD. l\lr. RAR~HART with Mr. ALTSTIN. The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. 1\fr. ·BRALL of Texas with 1\-!r. AVIS. Mr. DONOVAN. Mr. Speaker, I make the point of order that .1\Jr. RoRLAND with Mr. BARTHOLDT. there is no quorum present. l\11'. BRODBECK with ::\Ir. BUTLER. Mr. FITZGERALD. I move a can of the House. :Ur. BUCHANAN of Illinois with 1\lr. CALDER. The SPEAKER. There is no quorum. '.fhe gentleman from 1\Ir. RULKLEY witlL l\Ir. CAMPBELL. New York moves a call of the House. 1\Ir. BURNETT with :Mr. CHANDLER of New York. '.fhe question was taken, and the Speaker announced that the Mr. CALLAWAY with l\Ir. CooPER. ayes seemed to have it. Mr. CANTRILL with ·Mr: CoPLEY. l\U. l\IANN. I ask !or a division. 1\lr. CARLIN with l\fr. CRAMTON. The House divided; and there were-ayes 45, noes 32. 1\Ir. CARTER with l\Ir. DANFORTH. l\lr. MANN. 1\lr. Speaket·, I ask for the yeas and nays. l\fr. CLARK of l!"'loridn with ~Ir. DAVIS. The SPEAKER. Those who ar~ in fa \"Or of ordering the l\tr. DENT with 1\fr. DRUKKER. yeas and nays will rise and stand until counted. [Af.ter count­ Mr. DtcKlNSON with l\Ir. DUNN. ing.] Fifty-nine gentlemen have arisen, a sufficient number, and Mr. DoREMUS with l\Ir. EDMONDS. the Clerk will call the roll. Those in favor of ordering a call 1\Ir. DouGHTON with Mr. FoBDNEY. of the House will, as their names are called, Yote yea, and those l\lr. EAGAN with 1\Ir. FREAR. opposed will vote nay. 1\Jt·. FINLEY with 1\-Ir. GooD. '.fhe question was taken. and there were--yeas 78, nays 32, 1\Ir. FL&OD of Virginia with l\fr. GRAHAM of Pennsylvania. answered "present" 6, not voting 317, as follows: 1\Ir. FLOYD of Arkansas with l\lr. GREEN of Iowa. YEA.s-78 . .. 1\lr.· GARNER with Mr. GREENE of Vermont. Abercrombie Crosser Harris Peterson Mr. GARRETT of Tennessee with l\lr. GRIEST. A. swell Cullop Heflin Pou l\Ir. GARRETT of Texas with Mr. HELGESEN. Baltz Dershem Hensley Quin Barkley Dickinson Holland Raker Mr. GLASS with l\lr. Sr.EMP. Bartlett Dixon Houston Hauch Mr. Go.DwrN of Xorth Carolina with l\Ir. HINEBAUGH. Benkes Dough ton Howell Reilly, Conn. Mr. GooDWIN of Arkansas with Mr. HULINGS. Rorchers Edwards Jacoway Reilly, Wis. Bowdle Elder Johnson, Ky. Rothermel l\lr. GoRDON with l\Jr. JoHNSON of Utah. Burgess Fergusson Kennedy, Conn. Rubey 1\fr. GoRMAN with l\lr. JoHNSON of Washi.rlgton. Bm·ke, Wis. Ferris Kettner Russell Byrnes. S. C. Finley Kindel Smith, N.Y. Mr. GREGG with Mr. KEISTER. Byrns, Tenn. Fitzgerald Lee, Pa. Sparkman 1\Ir. HAMLIN with l\lr. KELLEY of Michigan. Candler, Miss. Foster Levy Stone l\Ir. HARDWICK w ith l\fr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island. Carr Gallagher Lobeck 'l'aaaart Mr. DUPRE with l\11'. DILLON. Clat·k, Fla. Gard McGilllcuddy TaZ.~nner Cline Goodwin, Ark. Maguire, Nebr. TenEyck l\Ir. HARRISON with ~Jr. KIESS of Pennsylvania. Collier Goulden Murray, Okla. Thompson, Okla. 1\Ir. HAY with 1\Ir. KINKAID of Nebraska. Connolly, Iowa Graham, Ill. O'Hair Walke1· l\Ir. HOWARD with l\lr. KREIDER. Conry Gray Oldfield Cox Guernsey Palmer l\Ir. HUMPHREYS of l\lississippi with l\Ir. ANDERSON. NAYs-32. Mr. KITCHIN witlL l\Ir. 1\IcKE.-ZIE. Aiken Falconer Kennedy, Iowa Smith. Idaho l\fr. LAZARO with :\Ir. LAFFERTY. Barton French Kinkaid, Nebr. Stafford l\Ir. LEE of Geor~ia with :.\Ir. LA FoLLETTE. Britten Gudger McLaughlin Stephens. Cal. l5tepiH.'ns,Miss. Mr. LE.VER. with ~Ir. LEWIS of Pennsylvania. Bryan Hamilton, Mich. Mapes Buchanan, Tex. Hawley Morgan, Okla. Suthe1·land l\Jr. LINTHICUM with Mr. LINDQUIST. Cary Helm Nolan, .J. I. Taylor. Ark. l\Ir. Lr.orn .with l\Ir. McGUIRE of Oklahoma. Church Hughes. Ga. Robel'ts, Nev. 'l'homson, lll. l\fr. l\JcKELLAR with Mr. l\IADDEN. Donovan Igoe Rupley Volstead Mr. ... IoNTAGUE with Mr. :.\IAcDoNALD. ANSWERIN(... "PRESENT .. "-6. lift·. :\Io::>N with ~It·. ~IAN AHAN. A Hen Hat·dy Stevens, Minn. Unde!'wood lHr. T.ALDOTT"'Of :Mtirylund with 1\lr. MERRITT. Booher Sloan

LI--GS2 10824" CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. - JUNE 20,

NOT VOTING-317. Adair Eva-ns Konop .Ray!Jurn The Clerk caned the name of 1\fr. UNDERWOOD, and he :m­ Adamson Fait·chlld Kot·bly Reed swered "PresenC' AJncy Faison Kt·eider Riordan · The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. Alexander Farr Lafferty Roberts, Mass• .Anderson Fess La Follette .Rogers The SPEAKER. A c~ll of the House is ordered. The Door­ Ansuen·y Fie!ds Langham Rouse keeper will Jock the doors, the Sergeant at Arms will notify the Anthony lfitziicnry Langley Rucker absentt>es, and the Clerk will call the roll. Ashbrook Flood. Ya. Lazaro Sa bath Austin rloyd, At·k. Lee, Ga. Saunders The Clerk called the roll, and the following Members failed A vi Fordncy L'Engle Scott to answer to their names: Bailey Fowler Lenroot Scully Alney Fairchild Langley Baket· Francis Lesber Reed Seldomridge Alexander Fess Lazul'O Hlot·dan Barchfeld Frear Lever Seils Anderson Fields Lee, Oa. Bat·nlwrt Gallivan Lewis, Md. Shackleford Ansben·y FitzHenry L' Engle HoiJHts, 1\Iass. nurrholdt Gardnet· Lewis, Pa. Roget·s Sharp Ashbrook Flood, Va. Lenroot Ito use Batbr·ick Gax·ner Lieb Sherley Austin Floyd, Ark. Lesher ll<'all. Tex. Gat-rett, TP.nn. Lindbergh Rucker Sherwood A vis Ji'ordney Lever Sabu th Bell. Cal. Garrett, 'l'ex. Lindquist Shreve BakPr Fowler Levy Bell. Ga. George Lintbicum Saunders Sims B~11·cbfeld Francis J.ewl~. Md. Scott ~~~-i!~~on 8iN'Y t~~{d Sinnott Barnhart ~'rear Lewis, l:'a. Scully Sisson Bartholdt Gallivan Lieb Se.domrldge Brockwn Gillett Logue Slayden Bathrick Gardner Lindbergll Brodbeck Gil rno t·e Lonergan Sells Slemp Beall, Tex. Garner Lindquist StwckleforcJ Bt·oussard Gittins McAndrews Small Bell, Cal. Gal'l'ett, Tenn. Linthicum Br·own, N. Y. · Gl:Jss McClellan Sharp Smith, .r. ~L c. Be-ll, Ga. Garrett, Tex. Lloyd Shet·ley Bt·own. W. Va. Godwin, N. C. McCoy Smith, M:d. Blackmon Geo1·ge Loheck B :·owne, Wis. Gocke McDermott Shes wood Smitb. Minn. Brockson Gerry Loft Shs·eve Bt·owning Goldfogle McGuire, Okla. Smith. Saml. W. Bt·odbeck Gill Logue Rrucknet· Good McKellar Sims Smith, Tex. Broussard Gillett Lonergan Sinnott Brumbaugh Gordon McKenzie Stanley Brown, N.Y. Glass McAnds·ews Buchanan, Ill Gorman MacDonald Sisson Stedman Brown, W. Va. Godwin :hJcCiellan Slayden Bulkley Graham, P:t. Madden Steenerson Browne, Wis. · GoPke McCoy Rur·ke. Pa. Grr en, Iowa Mahan Slemp Stephens, NPbr. Bt·ownJng Goldfogle McDermott Sloan EU!'ke, S. Dak. Greene, Mass. Maher Stephens. Tex. B•·uckne1· Good M<'Guire, Okla. Bur·nett Greene, Vt. Manahan Small Stevens, N. H. Brumbaugh Got·don MeKcllar Smith, Md. Bntlet· Gre~g Mann Stout Bulkley G01·man McKenzie Caldet· GriP'lt Martin Smith, .J:. ~L C. St1·inger Burke. Pa. Graham, Pa. McLaughlin Smith, Minn. Call::uvay Gt·lffin Merritt Sumners Bm·nett Green, Iowa MacDonald Campbell Hnrnill Metz Smith. Sam!. W. Switzer Butlcl' Greene, Mass. Madden Smith, Tex. Cantor Hamilton, N.Y. Miller Talbott. Md. Byi'Des, S. c. Gre(lne, Vt. Mahan Stanley Cantrill Hamlin Mitchell Talcott. N.Y. Calder Gregg Mnber Caraway Hammond Mondl'll Taylor, Ala. Callaway Griest Manahan Stedman Carew Has·dwick Montague Ta.vlor, C'olo. Campbell Griffi n Martin StPenet·son Carlin H nrrlson Moon Taylot·, N. Y. Cantor· Hamill Men·ltt Stephens, Nebr. Carter Ha1·t 1\foore Temple Cantrill Hamilton, N.Y. Metz Stephen~:~, Tex. Casey Haugen Morgan, La. Thacher Carew Hamlin Miller Stevens, N. H~ Chandler, N.Y. Hay :Moriu Stringer Thomas Ca1·1in Hammond llfltchPll Sutbes·land Clancy Ha.\·den Morrison Tow net• Carter Hal'dwick 1\-fondell Switzer Claypool Hayes 1\foss, Ind. TOWDSE'nd Chandler, N.Y. Hart · Montague Coady Hrli!"<'Sen :Mnss, W. Va. Treadway Clancy Ba.v Moon ~'n I ho tt. 1\Id. Connelly, Kans. HE'lverlng l\fott Taylor. Ala. Tribble Clar·k, Fla. Hayden Moore Taylor, Colo. Coone t· H Pnry Murdock Tnttle Claypool H ayes M01·gan, Ln. Taylor, N.Y. Coplc.v Hill Murray. Mass. Dndl'l'hfil Cline Helgesen Moriu Temple Cov in~ton Hinds Neeley. Kans. Vare Coady Henry Mor1·ison Tbachel' Cramton Hinebaugh NPel.v. W.Va. Vau!!han Connelly, Kans. Hill Mos , lnd. Thomas Crisp Hobson NPlfarv Watkins Crisp Hoxwot·th NeE>le.v. Kans. TuttiP Davi. Hull O'S .. aunessy Wntson C'urry Hn_g-hps, W. Va. NP<>l .v. W. Va. Dnderblll Decker Humphrpy, Wash. PRurr<'tt Wenver Dale Hulings Nelson Var·e Dr itrick Hnmphre:v . . Miss. Pn~.re. N. C. Webb Danforth Hull Nnrton Vnug-han Dent .Tohnson. R C. Pai!!e, Mass. Whaley Dn>enport Humphrey. Wash. O'RriPn Volstead Dies .Tohnson, TTtah Park Whitacre Davis Humphrey!'!, Miss. O!!'IE'sb:v Wallin Pifenderfer Johnson, Wash. Pm·ker Wl,ite Decker Johnson, Tltnh O'T.earv Walsh Dillon .TonE'S Pattt>n, N.Y. 'Williams DE>ltrick Johnson, Wash. O'Shan·uessy Walters DonolJoe Knbn Pntton, Pa. Willis Dent Jones Pad.!!ett Watson Dooling Kl'atlng Pnvne WiiAAn. Fla. Dershem Kahn Pacze. N. C. Wenver Doolittle Keister PPtt>rf<. 1\f"ass. Wilson. N.Y. Dies Ke1ting Pai'!P, Mass. Webh Doremus KE'llE'y. Mich. PPtPrs. Me. WID.!!'O Difl'nderfer Kelste1· Pnrket• Wholey Dri!'coll KPlly. Pa. phplan Winslow Dixon Reiley. Mich. Pa HPn. N.Y. Whitacre Drukker KE'nnedy, R.I. Pllltt WithE'rf~an Konop Po<:t Wnortruff 'l'lle Clerk announced the following additional pairs: F:clmonds Korhly PowPrS F or the session : Woot'ls F:clwards KrPider Pronty Yonn~. N. Dak. ;.\lr. UNDERWOOD with Mr. MANN. F:sch LaffPrt:v Ra!!Rcla.le Young, Te::r. F:stoninal La Follette R11inev Until further notice: Evans Langham Raybnrn Mr. WATKINS with l\1r. BARCHFELD. The Clerk having called thd roll once, the following oc- Mr. ALEXANDER with 1\lr. ANTHONY. curred: Mr. AswELL with l\II·. BELL ·of California. Mr. BAILEY with 1\lr. DAVIS. 1\Ir. STAFFORD. 1\Ir. Spcnker. a point of order. Mr. HABRISON with 1\lr. DUNN. The APEAKER. The gentleman will ~tnte it. l\fr. ASHBROOK with Mr. FORDNEY. Mr. STAFFORD. Is not the Clerk obliged, under the rules of the Hon~e. to call the roll a second time? 1\fr. BLACK ION with 1\Ir. HULINGS. The SPEAKER. Not on a call of th£' House. 1\fnybe the 1\fr. ESTOPINAL with l\1r. GREENE of Massachusetts. .Mr. KEY of Obio with Mr. HAUGEN. practice h11s been to cnll it twice. Perhaps tbnt is true. Mr. RRYAN. I will ask unanimous consent, Mr. Speaker, to Mr. KORBLY with 1\lr. HAYES. waive the second call. l\fr. l\Ioss of Indinna with l\Ir. KAHN .. The SPEAKER. We shall get along. more quickly the other 1\fr. TAYLOR of Colorado with Mr. MONDELL. way. Mr. FOWLF.R with l\Ir. PLUMLEY. At the conclusion of the colloquy the C1erk cnlJed the nnmes 1\lr. UNDERWOOD. .Mr. Speaker, I desire to inquire whether of the l\fembers who had fniled to answer In the tirRt call . .the gentleman from Illinois, Mr. MANN, voted or not? Mr. FITZGERALD. Mr. Speaker. how many nre there here1 The SPEAKEll. He did not. The SPEAKEn. One hundred nnd twenty-eight. 1\fr. UNDERWOOD. I Yoted in the nffirmative; but I have 1\Ir. FITZGERALD. 1\fr. Spaaker, it is the minntes to 8, a standing pair with the !!entlemnn from Illinois. I desire to with 128 l\1embers present. nod more thnn 100 m·e reqnirell to withdraw my vote and answer "present." get a quorum. W.hile I believe that the 1\fembE>rs should bo The SPEAKER. The Clerk will call the gentleman's name. here to transact public business, yet it is hardly ~orth while 1914. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD--HOUSE. 10025 to punish the Members who are· here by continuing the proceed­ in interstate commerce. and for other purposes; to the Commit­ ings. If I thought we could get a quorum to-uight I would tee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. move to stay. As it is, I move that the House do now adjourn. By Mr. GUERKSEY: A bill (H. R. 17387) to repeal an act Tlle motion was agreed to; accordingly (at 7 o'clock and 55 entitled "An act to promote reciprocal trade relations witb the minutes p. m.) the House adjourned until to-morrow, Sunday, Dominion of Canada, and for other purposes " ; to tlle Com- June 21, 1914, at 12 o'clock noon. mittee on Ways Dnd Means. · By Mr. KETTNER: A bill (H. R. 17388) creating an addi­ EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. tional land district in the State of California, embracing lands Under clause 2 of Rule XXIV, executive communications contained in the county of Imperial, and for other purposes; to were taken from the Speaker's table and referred as follows: the Committe·e on the Public Lands. 1. A letter from tlle Acting Secretary of the Treasury, trans­ By Mr. RAINEY: A bill (H. R. 17389) to amend the internal­ mitting a communication from the Attorney General submitting re--:- c::nue laws; to the Committee on Wa:rs and l\Ieans. a list of judgments rendered by the Court of Claims in favor By 1\Ir. KEl\~EDY of Connecticut: A bill (H. R. 17390) to of claimants in Indian depredation cases, which require an ap­ amend an act entitled "An act granting pensions and increase propriation for their payment (H. Doc. No. 1048) ; to the Com­ of r;ensions to certain soldiers and sailors of the Civil War mittee ou Avprr>Priations and ordered to be printed. and certain widows and dependent children of soldiers and 2. A letter from the Acting Secretary of the Treasury, trans­ sailors of said ·war," approved l\lay 2, 1914; to the Committee mitting a list of judgments rendered by thE> Court of Claims on Invalid Pensions. which require an appropriation for payment (H. Doc. No. By l\Ir. STONE: A bill (H. R. 17391) autllorizing the Secre­ 1049) ; to the Committee on .A.ppropriations and ordered to be tary of War to deliver to the village of Kasbeer, IlL, one con­ printed. demned bronze or brass cannon, with carriage and :i suitable 3. A letter from the Acting Secretary of the Treasury, trans­ outfit of cannon balls; to the Committee on Military Affairs. mitting schedules of claims allowed by the several accounting officers of the Treasury Department under appropriations, the balances of which have been exhausted or carried to surplus PRIVATE BILLS AJ\"TI RESOLUTIO~S. fund (H. Doc. No. 1047); to the Committee on Appropriations Under clause 1 of Rule XXII, private bills and resolutions and ordered to be printed. were introduced and severally referred as follows: 4. A letter from the Acting ~ecretary of the Treasury, sub­ By 1\Ir. BAKER: A bill (H. R. 17392) granting a pension to mitting an estimate of appropriation for the acquisition of a Annie l\1. Briggs; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Eite for the post office at Phoenixville, Pa. (H. Doc. No. 1050) : Also, a bill (H. R. 17393) granting a pension to Sarah E. to the Committee on Appropriations and ordered to be printed. Jauss; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By 1\Ir. BRUl\fBAUGH: A bill (H. R. 17394) granting an in­ REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PUBLIC BILLS AND crease of pension to Benjamin D. Smith; to the Committee on RESOLUTIONS. Invalid Pensions. Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, By l\Ir. CASEY: A bill (H. R. 17305) for the relief of the Mr. CAllY. from the Committee on the District of Columbia, Pennsylvania Millers' Mutual Fire Insurance Co.; to the Com­ to which wns referred the bill (H. R. 16953) prohibiting the mittee on Claims. sale or keeping for sale, in the District of Columbia, of un­ By l\fr. DEITRICK: A bill (H. R. 17396) granting a pension drawn cold-storage poultry, reported the same with amend­ to Chester A. l\Iorang; to the Committee on Pensions. ment, accompanied by a report (No. 854), which said bill and By Mr. ESTOPINAL: A bill (H. R. 17397) for the t·elief of report were referred to the House Calendar. Philip St. Seve; to the Committee on Military Affairs. By l\Ir. FRENCH: A bill (H. R. 17398) for the relief of Tru­ man R. Peters; to the Committee on Claims. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PRIVATE BILLS AND By Ur. GARD: A bill (H. R. 173!:>9) granting an increase of RESOLUTIONS. pension to James L. Young; to the Committee on Invalid Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, private bills and I'esolutions Pensions. were severally reported from committees, delivered to the Clerk, Also, a bill (H. R. 17400) to correct the military record of and referred to the Committee of the Whole House, as follows: Allen Moore; to the Committee on Military Affairs. Ur. DILLON. from the Committee on Claims, to which was re­ By 1\fr. GOULDEN: A bill (H. R. 17401) for the relief of Wil­ ferred the bill (H. R. 15513) for the relief of F. W. Schultz. liam Rodamer; to tlle Committee on Military Affairs. reported the same without amendment, accompanied by a re­ By Mr. GRAY: A bill (H. R. 17402) granting an increase of port ( K o. 855), which said bill and report were referred to the pension to Joseph Myers; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Private Calendar. Also, a bill (H. R. 17403) granting an increase of pension to Mr. EVANS, from the Committee on Claims, to which was Henry C. Tibbetts; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. referred the bill (H. R. 13352) to allow credit in the accounts By Mr. GRIFFIN: A bill (H. R. 17404) reinstating William S. of Wyllys A. Hedges, special disbursing agent, reported the Barriger to his former rank and grade in the United States same without amendment, accompanied by a report (No. 856), Army; to the Committee on Military Affairs. which said bill and report were referred to the Private Calendar. By Mr. HILL: A bill (H. R. 17405) granting an increase of .Mr. STEPHENS of MiEnissippi, from the Committee on pension to Thomas W. Chamness; to the Committee on Invalid Claims, to which was referred the bill (H. R. 1711C) to reim­ Pensions. burse Epps Danley for property lost by him while lightkeeper By Mr. LONERGAN: A bill (H. R. 17406) for the relief of at East Pascagoula River (Miss.) Light Station, reported the Henry Watson; to the Committee on Military Affairs. same without t.mendruent, accompanied by a report (No. 857), By Mr. MAHER: A bill (H. R. 17407) granting an increase which said bill and report were referred to the Private Calendar. of pension to Joseph Worden; to the Co:nmittee on Invalid Pen­ Mr. GARD, from the Committee on Military _\.ffairs, to which sions. was referred the bill (H. R. 15735) to correct the military By Mr. RUSSELL: A bill (H. R. 17408) granting a pension record of Sanford F. Timmons, reported the samr without to Donna B. Conover; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. amendment, accompanied by a report (No. 858), which said bill By Mr. SHERWOOD: A bill (H. R. 17409) to correct the and report were referred to the Private Calendar. military record of George Andrews; to the Committee on Mili­ He also, from the same committee, to which was referred the tary Affairs. bill (H. R. 16430) for the relief of John Oursler, reported the By Mr. SINNOTT: A bill (H. R. 17410) for the relief of same without amendment, accompanied by a report (No. 859), Leo A. Blevins; to the Committee on Claims. wL.ich said bill and report were referred to the Private Calendar. Also, a bill (H. R. 17411) for the relief of· Benjamin F. Mr. DIES, from the Committee on Claims, to which was re­ Johnson; to the Committee on Claims. ferred the bill (H. R. 10328) for the relief of Francis A. Gren­ Also, a bill (H. R. 17412) for the relief of Walter T. 1\Iorris; nen, reported the snm~ with amendment, accompanied by a re­ to the Committee on Claims. port (No. 860), which said bill and report were referred to the By Mr. STONE: A bill (H. R. 17413) granting an increase of Private Calendar. · pension to John Throckmorton; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. PUBLIC BILLS, RESOLUTIONS, AND MEMORIALS. By Mr. TENEYCK: A bill (H. R. 17414) granting a pension Under clause 3 of Rule X....'I(II, bills, resolutions, and memo­ to Mary Maguire; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. rials were introduced and severally referred as follows: Also, a bill (H. R. 17415) granting an increase of pension to By Mr. WALKER : A bill (H. R. 17386) to regulate the label­ Mary E. Carhart; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. ing of cotton fabric sold in the District of Columbia, the District By l\Ir. THOMSON of Illinois: A bill (H. R. 17416) granting of Alaska, and the Territories of the United States, or shipped a pension to George Hauenstein; to the Committee on Pensions. i0826 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE: JUNE 20,

By Mr. U~"'DERHILL: A bill (H. .R. 17417) granting a pen­ its secretary, all of Raton, N. Mex.; fmroring national consti· sion to Elizabeth Sawyer; to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ tutional prohibition; to the Committee on Rules. sion. By Mr. FRENCH: ·Petitions of sundry citizens of Grangeville, By ..:ur. Sl\IITH of New York: A bill (H. R. 17418) granting Idaho, against national prohibition; to the Committee on Rules. a pe-n ion to J acob Schmidt; to the Committee on Invalid Pen­ By 1\lr. GRAY: Papers lo accompany a bill (H. R. 17403) sio n~. granting an increase of pension to Henry C. Tibbetts; to the By l\Ir. TEN EYCK: A bill (H. R. 17419) granting a pension Committee on Invalid Pensions. to Anna C. ' IcCnlloch; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, papers to accompany a bill (H. R. 17402) granting a Al ·o, n bill (H. R. 17~:1-20) granting an incre-ase of pension to pension to Joseph l\Iyers; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. F.uw:ud Xorton; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. By 1\fr. HAMILTON of New York: Petition of Charles E. Parks, of Jamestown, N. Y., fe~voring the passage of the Smith­ Hughes national motion-picture commission bill; to the Com­ PETITIONS, ETC. mittee on EducaUon. l:u Jer cln nse 1 of Rule XXII, petitions and papers were laid Also, petitions of Charles E. Parks, of Jamestown, N. Y., and on 01e Clerk's desk a nd referred as follows: the First Baptist Chnrch of Wills,i11e, N. Y., favoring national Hy hlr. A. LI.E:X: Petition of 218 citizens of Cincinnati, Ohio. prohibition; to the Committee on Rules. prote.'t in ~ again t na tional prohibition; to the Committee on Also, petition of \arions me-mbPr of the Epworth League of Hnlc::;. Cobb, N. Y., favoring national prohibition; to the Committee on B.· :\Ir. BTIITT EN: .Affidavits to accompany a bill (H. R. Rules. Ft-411) gran ting a n increase of pension to Edward A. Bigelow; By 1\fr. KENNEDY of Connecticut: Memorial of the Connecti­ t(l tllc Committee on Im·alid Pensions. cut Federation of Women's Clubs, favoring the Foster radium By :\Ir. BHUCKNETI : Petition of A. E. Unclean. of Pelham bill (B. R. 12741) ; to the Committee on Ways and l\Iean!';. Hn.: Pnrk. New York City, against national prohibition; to the By 1\ir. l\lOORE: Petitions of sundry citizens of Philndel­ Committee on llules. phia, Pa., protesting against national prohibition; to the Com­ ~Uso . petitions of the New York State Hotel Association, the mittee on Rules. W ine- and Spirit T raders' Society of the United States, thP Wine By Mr. MOTT: Petitions of sundry citizens of the thirty­ nnd Liquor Der1ers' • s odntion, and the Central Federated second distrkt of :Kew York, favoring national prohibition; to U nion, all of Xew York City, protesting against national pro­ the Committee on Rules. hibiUon; J·o the Committee on Rule.·. By Mr. O'SHA LTNES3Y: Petition of the R~er Williams Asso­ .t: lso, petition of the Brunswick-Balke~Co11ender Co., Chns. ciation of Baptist Churches in the State of Rhode Island. and W. Lel'erWge (Inc.), nnd the Fownes Glo\es Co., all of New Robinson Wood and others. of Providence. R. I., favoring na­ York City. fayoring the pa ss~ ge of the Stevens bill (H. R. tional prohibition; to the Committe-e on Rules. JR20:J ) ; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. By l\Ir. PLATT~ Petitions of nuions churches, representing Al. o, petition of the Women Physicians' Branch of the Po­ 3,559 citizens of Newburgh, N. Y., favoring national prohibition; Htkal EqnnlHy Lengue of Brooklyn, N. Y., and the Woman's to the Committee on Rules. Ch ri stian Tempernnce Union of Schenectady, N. Y., faToring the By 1Ur. RAKER: Petition of Swayne & Hoyte (Inc.) and Bri ~tow-l\Io n d el l resolution enfranchising women; to the Com­ the Robt. Dollar Co., of San Francisc~ Ca.l., protesting against mi ttee on the Jndicinry. antitrust legislation; to the Committee on the Judiciary. Al.'o, petition of the Chicago Federation of Labor. relative to Also. letter of the California Association of Electrkal Con­ con