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Home , Alberta Hunter, Charlie Creath, Jimmy Archey, Mezz Mezzrow, Pops Foster

Reel A, Track 2 June 23, 1967-August, 1969 Also present; Tom Stoddard, Alma Poster (Addenda August 26, 1971.)

They discuss records and recordings. and PF put out only 500 or so copies of a record. PF recorded with , tin the early 1960-s? in Uie 1940.s? Cf. discographies.3 but didn't

.f know her in the twenties. He knew Alberta Hunter. They mention an unissued record of the quartet with PF, Freddy Moore/

w [also with SB. See discogr^riies. ] "The Song of Songs." [Cf . discographies.] Mention of "My Woman's Blues" PF has a record

of "Jersey Lightning" [on Okeh? with 's band], PF had two or three copies of it. Llpyd Phillips/ [p]/ was also on the Sidney Bechet record. [C£. discographies.] [Cf. Co 12" LP.] Recorded around

1945-46 [July 23, 1947, Jepsen/ JA22 RECORDS...] They talk about Alberta

Hunter records. PF borrowed records from the man across the street.

Tliey talk about drinking and the time Tom Stoddard worked in a liquor store. PF says men used to drink claret. PF remembers Buddy Bolden

going insane in 1910 [c£ other sources] . Joe Howard [ ?] (machine off). Sam Dutrey/ cl; Johnny Dodds, cl; Dave Jones/ French

horn [i.e., mellophone?] are mentioned [in a photo cf band?] . [Mintes?] Bag Factory was where was working when PF found him. [C£. the BABY DODDS STORY.] PF says BD was making "croker"

I i.e. ; crocus] sacks. PF got Johnny Dodds a job playing with at Globe Hall. He heard JD playing wtiile sitting in a gutter. JD was with

dry for a long time, until tTiey [JD and ??] [JD?] became sick. Then tie played at [Kelly's] Stables.Dance Hail in . He talks

of Montudi Garland.

PF played with (in St. Louis) [first?] then with Dewey Jackson. He tells of joining Luis Russell in.. PF got

free copied of sheet music which PF sent to DJ. PF has a pboto of him .

A man named Big Babe played tp in St. Louis with Beany Washington's Keel A/ Track 2 June 23, 1967-August, 1969 2 band. DJ would not join PF becuase he had got religion and was playing for the Lord. DJ died two to three years ago. Sammy Long, Harry [ ?] / d wlio [later?] , played with Noble Sissle, and [William] Luper/ tb. PF was a "big deal" in St. Louis. Charlie CreatT-i got extra money for PF. Alma F. enters [again?]. Benny Washington, d, played with Earl [Hines?]/ then he died. William §eBej Ridgley had the Tuxedo Band. / Johnny St. Cyr and PF were in the band. There is mention fo JSC and PF's giving notice. PC formed another Tuxedo Band. A bassist had yet another band called the YounggTuxedo. Joe Howard played with Babb Frank. played with Fate Marable; so did PF, Baby Dodds, and Peter Bocage. Sam Dutrey couldn't wal1< the plank on tl-ie boat because he was so drunk. Therefore he didn't get in on the photo [Johnny Dodds instead?]] This band recorded later. The band changed after its first trip. LA, PF/ JSC left. Joe Howard left in St. Louis. U.S. Grant Cooper played

trombone .

PF played with Louis Armstrong when LA was just out of reform school. Bunk Johns on left around 1910. He was drunk all the time. He went with a minstrel show/ where they traveled by train and stayed on their private train car. Alma F. talks about the Sila s Green Show in South Carolina; Bunk Johnson and Stale Bread were with

Silas Green. Alma F. says that aman and a woman had a show. Eubie Blake was not in South Carolina; he went as far as-.:'St. Louis. The woman wore a costume in the shape of a heart/ and one of them was an accordion

e player. Songs from the TOBA are used now/ . g . / "Darktown Strutteass' Ball" and comedians were funny tT'ien. There were no women comedians then (except Susie of Butterbeans and Susie, adds Alma F.). Reel A, Track 2 June 23, 1967-August, 1969 3

They talk about comedy and a mock fight in^.a theater. The Louis Armstrong band members were involved. This was at the Chicago theater. Somehow LA went on stage wifhout any pants on at the Para-

mount Theater.

They talk about Bingie Madison/ ts. [This part confused.] A man's leg swelled; Bingie [landed on?] the man [????]. PF last played with LA in 1948 in Nice/ . LA and PF were on the "This Is "

[radio program] in 1947. LA is a happy fellow. PF doesn't write regularly to LA, but they are on the best of terms. (AF does a lot of talking here.) Joe Glaser/ a busy man/ is LA'S manager.

In 1935 PF was with Luis Russell's band. Then the band went

together again with LA until 1940. Joe Glaser fired the band.- He got a younger band. They talk about George Washington/ now dead, saying that PF was too old to be in the band/ and that was too short. Joe Garland was hired as musical director and was fired after

one month. Luis Russell hired Joe Garland. Joe Garland undermined

Luis Russell. JG drove a cab around New York. Scad [Hemphill?] died . Luis Russell is dead now. His band made recordings in 1929 with PF when PF joined. In 1935 they began to records as the Louis Armstrong

band.

They talk about photos [not necessarily in this order]. Photos of , doctor's son/ a photo made in Canada in 1966, Germany, Jimmy Archey, Davy Jones, Alma F's oldest brother/ an article on PF in CODA [magazine], Scott Joplin and ragtime/ Kin^ Oliver, Louis Armstrong, Baby Dodds/ Brownie McGhee/ Sonny Terry, riverboats. St. Paul/ Capitol,

Sidney. PF played a funeral carrying his bass for a black. Bunk

[Johnson] with Sidney Bechet, George Johnson, Ray Parker, PF in Boston,

Mezz Mezzrow in Nice/ France, Henry [Goodwin?], . While in ^/ Reel A/ Track 2 June 23. 1967-August/ 1969 4

Zurich/ PE jammed on . TS reads from [ ?] on origin of » .4 jazz bass style/ Bill Johnson/ / etc. Bill JolmsQn...was a guitarist, according to PF. PF says that he disagrees with Louis Armstrong's statement that tried to help New Orleans musicians [on Track 3 of this reel?]. PF mentions his fafher, and PF's early bass and bow. They talk about his brother and sister, an Irish neighbor. Alma talks on race relations and marches, Elizabeth/ PF's mother and father, McCall

Plantation. PF talks about correct pronunciation and spelling of

Villere, Iberville, Tchoupitoulas and other street names. PF talks about recording stories with Alma when Stoddard is gone/ and about writing in 1'he first person. PF talks about Bix Beid^Ebecke being a wonderful pianist who was written up as a wonderful trumpeter. PF Iworked with?] BB, p; / Fee Wee Russell/ Frank Trum- bauer, at the Arcadia [Ballroom] in St. Louis in 1922.

Sammy Davis/ Jr. is mentioned. An organ recording of "September Song" is played. (Andrus' copy of Gene Coy's Black Aces. (Blank tape from here.) (Next track is Pops Foster and Louis Armstrong.)

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