EI.htll Serf., ·· Vol. ~LVIII. No. 30 ; Tuesd.y, April 11, 1989 Chaltra 21, 1911 (Saka)

LOK SABHA DEBATES (English Version)

Thirteenth SessioD (Eighth Lok Sabha)

(Yol. XL Ylll 'contains NOI. 2110 30)

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(Eighth &lMs, Vol. XLVIII, Thitteenth Session, 198911911 (Saka)] No. 30. Tuesday. April 11. 1989/Chaitra 21. 1911 (Saka)

COUJMNS

Oral Answers to Questions: 1-35

·Starred Questions Nos. 574,582,583.585, 587,588,590,593 and 581

Written Answers to Questions: 35-474

Starred Questions Nos. 575 to 580, 584, 586 35-46 589,591,592 and 594

Unstarred Questions Nos. 5591 to 5772 46-474

Announcement by Speaker Re: formation of 475-479 Janata Oal Legislature Party in Lok Sabha

Papers Laid on the Table 479-483

Committee on Private Member'S Bills and 484 Resolutions Sixty-fourth Report-presented

Committee on Subordinate Legislation 484 Twenty-second Report-pressnt9d

Petition Re: Enactment of Legislation 484 banning lockout, closure etc.

Calling attention to matter of urgent 485-504 public importance Reported deaths due to meningitis

Shri V. Kishore Chandra S. Oeo 485 488-493

Kumari Saroj Khaparde 486-488

Shri M. R. Saikia 493-4~5

• The Sing t marked above the name of a Mambar indicates that the question was actually asked on the floor of the House by that Member. (ii)

CowMNS

Shri Para; Chaliha 495-497

Shri Harish Rawat 497-500

Business Advisory Committee 504-505 Sixty-ninth Report--adopfed

Matters Under Rule 3n 505-511

(i) Need to ensure drinking water supply to 505-506

Bolangir district of Orissa

Shri Nityananda M~a

(n) Need to provide funds for supply of water in 507-508

villages falling in Barmer, Jaisalmer and Jodhpur districts of Rajasthan under Accelerated Rural Water Supply Programme

Shri Virdhi ·Chander Jain

(iii) ..Need to provide financial assistance to the 508 Government of Rajasthan for tube-wells in drought affected ar_s of the State

Shri Shankar Lal

(Iv) Need to start work on Koel-Karo Hydro-electric 508-509 Project

Shri Sarfaraz Ahmed

(v) Need to oonstrud a permanent dam along 509 banks of river Ganga in Ganj Doondwara, Tehsil Patiali, Distrid Etah, Uttar Pradesh

Shri Mohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan

(VI) Need to check the erosion by river 509-510 Brahmaputra from Chapar to Chanderdinga in district Dhubri (Assam)

Shri Abdul H-.nkt (i)

CoLUMNS

(vil Need tor slaps to avoid deIiy in issuing 510 passports in Kanda

Prof. P.J. Kwien

(viii) Need to develop KoIaishwari hils in Hazaribagh 511 disbiet of BiIa as • tourist resort

Shri Yogeshwar Prasad Yogesh

Motion Re: Interim and Final Reports of Thakkar 511-602 Commission

Shri Rameshwar Neekhra 512-516

Prof. Saifuddin 50z 516-526

Shri P. Chidambaram 526-534

Shri Nar8sh Chandra Chaturvedi 534·540

Shri T. Basheer 540-544

Shri P.R. Das Munsi 544-555

Shri Shivraj V. Patil 555-563

Shri Sharad Dighe 563-570

Shri Hamobhai Mete. 570-579

Shri Girdhari LaI Vyas 579-581

Shri SomnaIh Ralh 581-585

S. Hula Singh 585--602

LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOKSABHA STATEMENT

(a) to (c). During the last six months ended 31-3-1989, 208 applications for grant Tuesday, April 11, 19891Chaitra 21, 1911 of industrial licence under the Industries (Saka) (Development & Regulation) Act, 1951 were received from various entrepreneurs includ- ing the State Public Sector Undertakings for setting up industries in the State of Mahar- The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock ashtra. Out of this, 38 applications have been approved and fetters of intent granted [MR. SPEAKER in the Chailj to the parties concerned while 45 have been rejected/otherwise disposed of and 125 are ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS under process. Detailed information regard- ing letters of intent issued are published in [English] the Monthly Newsletter of Indian Investment Centre and a copy is sent to the Parliament Grant of Industrial Licences In Mahar- Library. ashtra "- [ Translation] *574. SHRf BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be SHAI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: Mr. pleased to state: Speaker, Sir, out of 208 applications, only 38 applications have been approved while 45 (a) whether Government have been rejected and 125 are still under has recommended some applications to process. I would like to know from the hone Union Government for grant of industrial Minister how many of these 38 licences licences for setting up industrial units in the belong to private sector, public sector and State; co-operative sector? Also, how many of them have been issued in backward areas? (b) if so, the number and details of such I would also like to know the extent to which applications received during the last six employment opportunities are likety to be months as on 31st March, 1989 and how created in each industry. H some of these many of them have been cleared; and licences relate to food processing industries, what-is their number? How many of them are (c) the details of such units, industry- going to be set up in rural areas and how wise, and the districts where such units will many in urban areas and how many people be set up? are likely to get employment in it? I would like the hone Ministerto furnish information sepa- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE rately for rural and urban areas. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- [English) TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). A statement is given below. SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: Sir. during 3 Oral Answers APRil 11. 1989 • the past six months, the total number of of backwad area was 73. In 1988. the-. applications received was 208; 38 letters of number of schemes registered was 209 and intent have been issued; 45 applications the share mbackward area was 95. Upt, have been rejected or otherwise disposed Feb. 1989. the total number of schemes of; and 125 applications are at various registered was 19 and the share of backWard statges of processing. I would like to tell the area was 6. House through you, Sir that out of 125 appIi· cations, 77 applications have been received Sir. 32 applications are pending with the only during the last two months, that is within Food Processing Ministry. It is not with Our the stipulated period. Ministry.

Sir, regarding backward and other ar- DR. DAITA SAMANT: Sir. Maharash- eas, I will pass on the information to the hone tra has got one-hundred-yaar old industries. Member. In public sector and private sector. Such industries are there in Bombay. Pune we have received a number of applications. and Thana Zones. There is a tendency to I will find out and pass on the information to close down the industries. About 240 big the hone Member. industries and 14000 small industries have been closed. Onefadory of Hindustan lever SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL: Mr. had been closed. On the other hand. they Speaker. Sir, when they scrutinise, sanction had given licence to Apollo Industries for and issue letter of intent and licence. they producing the same product. Poddar Mills, should look into how many are in the back- Khatau Mills and Bombay MiHs have been ward areas; how much employment will be closed. but the other industry has started created and at thp same time whether the producing new products. Sir. these things rural area will be benefited or not. are happening. By the process of dosing down the okI industries and starting new I would like to ask another question. In industries. taking money from the Govem- Maharashtra, letters of intent have been ment. etc. the big houses are benefded. The issued to a number of spinning mills. But for Government should take note of one point at the last four years, no central financial insti- the time of issuing new licences in Mahar- tution is .giving any loan on the plea that ashtra or anywhere that alleast the people already the target for the Seventh Plan was who are employed in those jactories are not over. The Government should keep in view thrown out of the employment. You need not at the time of issuing licences, that the loan give anything additional It is a very impor- should be disbursed property so that the tant process. t want to know whether the cooperatives in particular would not suffer.' Government win take not~ of this and imple- In the rural areas, employment potential is ment the same. very much there. I want to know, how much this question will be looked into. Maharash- SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: Sir. you know tra is very potential for Vanaspathi. I want to very weHr as per the recent policy of the know the policy of the Government of India in Government. we are not giving licences to regard to issue of licence for the production the factories situated within SO KMs radius of Vanaspathi. from Bombay and other metropolitan cities. That is why, we are giving licences to the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI rural and\backward areas only ... (Interrup- J. VENGAL RAO): The total number of tions) schemes registered in 1985 was 151, in which the share of backward area was 67. In DR. DArrA SAMANT: Why are you 1986, the total number of schemes regis- encouraging closing down of the tered was 277 and the share of backward industries? .. (lntemJptions) area was 132. In 1987, the total number of schemes registered was 217 and the share SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: We are not 5 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) OraIAnSMHS 6 encouraging closing of any (a) whether the targets set for the units .•. (lnterruptions) For big houses, they Seventh Plan in resped of small scale indus- must get clearaACe from MATP and then tries have been achieved; . only they will get licences.

SHRI ANOOPCHAND SHAH: May I (b) if not, the reasons therefor; know from the hon. Minister as to how many licenses have been given to Maharashtra in the fast one year, to manufacture vanaspati? (c) whether some multinationals have crossed the limits fixed in their licences of SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: Vanaspati is a products reserved in the small scale sector prohibited item. For example, in north-east- by giving sub-contracts; and ern States and Himachal Pradesh we have given one and one. In Maharashtra's tribal area, we have given one license for a coop- (d) if so, the details thereof and -the erative society. steps taken to plug the loopholes in the lawl rules/regulations? Target for Small Scale Industries

*582. SHRI LAKSHMAN MAlLiCKt: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRI KAMLA PRASAD DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- SINGH: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be TRY (SHAI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (d) pleased to state: A statement is given below.

STATEMENT

(a) and (b). The targets set for production, employment and exports in respect of small scale industries in the first three years of the Seventh Plan along' With estimated achievement are given below:-

Production Employment Exporls (At 1984-85 (in lakhs) (Rs. crores) prices) (Rs. crores)

Target Achieve Target Achieve Target@ Achieve ment ment ment"

1985-86 55225 57100 95 96 2630 2769

1986-87 61130 64500 100 101.4 2950 3648

1987-88 66630 72880 $ 106 107$ 3300 N.A.

@ At 1984-85 prices.

* At current prices.

$ Provisional.

N.A.- Not available. 7 APRIL 1.1f 1989 Oral Answers 8

(c) and (d). R~rvation of specific before the Committee. In ~ 2 they were not articles for exclusive manufacture by the able to prove the cases. The remaining are small scale industrial undertakings is made pending before the Committee. About the under section 5 of the Industries (Develop- smaH scale sector I want to inform the House ment & Regulation) Amendment Act 1984. H that there are 835 items reserved. They are an industrial undertaking other than a small manufacturing 5000 items both reserved scale industrial undertaking was manufac- and non-reserved. The employment poten- turing an item reserved for the small scale tial is increasing year by year. sector prior to the date of reservation of the item, it can continue to manufacture the item SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: The after obtaining a COB licence. The capacity finances of most of the small scale units are in the COB licence is pegged at the best in bad shape. A majority of them are suffer- production level achieved by that undertak- ing from non-availability of credit. Sufficient ing in the three years preceding the date of credit is not provided through the banks and reservation of the item. sometimes. there is inordinate delay by the banks. I am glad to know from the hon. Marketing of products reserved for Minister that the targets set for production, exclusive manufacture in the small scale employment and exports in respect of small sector by large units does not constitute scale industries in the first three years of the violation of the Government policy on Reser- Seventh Plan is very much appreciable and vation. satisfactory. Is the Minister aware that there is a great scope for increasing the production To look into the complaints of violation in the small scale sector if the banks and of reservation policy, Government h~ve financial institutions extend their assis- constituted a Committee to check entryl tance? if so, has he given direction to the expansion of large/medium scale units into banks and financial institutions not to make the areas reserved for the small scale sector. unnecessary delays in sanctioning loans to Violation of the provisions under the reser- the small scale units? vation policy is punishable under Section 24 of Industries (Development & Regulation) SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: I tabled the Act, 1951. complete information about export achieve- ment and the target fixed. About the credit, I SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: I have know there are some problems in the finan- gone through the statement of the hon. cial institutions. For that purpose, the Fi~ Minister. You know that the small scale in- nance Minister, in his statement, mentioned dustry sector is a priority sector and employ- that he is setting up a bank with a capital of ment generating sector. This sector now Rs. 300 crores exclusively for the benefit of faces a serious problem of non-availability of the small scale industries. I think the Finance essential raw materials. A large number of Ministry will bring the Bill before the Parlia- small industrial units are sick and closed. ment as soon as possible. The Minister has stated in his reply that the Government has constituted a committee to PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, as per the check entry and expansion of large arid information given by the Minister, the per· medium scale units into the areas reserved formance with regard to production export for small sector. In this context, I would like and employment of the small-scale industry to know from the hon. Minister as to how is satisfactory for the first three years of the many complaints have been received by the Plan. But it is not going to be so for the next Committee in the last three years and what two years, especially this year, because the is the action ,taken thereon. industrial subsidy which the Government was giving to the small-scale industries in THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY backward districts has been stopped. Be- (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): 21 cases came cause the subsidy has been stopped. no 9 Oral AnSwelS CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Oral AnSW91S 10 new industry is coming up in backward areas the production side. Is there any targetfixed . and also those industries which are already in respect of production and, if so, what has there, are going to be sick. In view of the been the achievement? The Report is there policy of the Government of correding the but our experience as members of the Dis- regional imbalance and also in view of the trict Industries Centre, etc. is that in terms of fact that those industries which are there in production, there are many small-scale units the backward districts are going to become which become sick soon after they are set sick, I would like to know whether the Gov- up. What does the Government propose to ernment ;s prepared to reconsider the stop- do about this? There Is no proper follow-up page of subsidy given to industries in the action taken by any agency with regard to backward districts, especially to the small- providing technical knOW-how and also giv- scale industries. ing them necessary market support. How does the Minister react to it? SHRt J. VENGAl RAO: Sir, what can our Ministry do when the Finance Ministry SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: Sir, the are not agreeable? They have lIot made Small Industries Service Institutes guide the enough provision for this in this year's entrepreneurs, render consultancy serv- Budget. ices, assist them in making them aware of the facilities and concessions offered by PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, it is the various organisations, and conduct training responsibility of the Government. Let him at programmes for the technocrats. NSIC is least say that he will take up the matter with also doing the same thing and they are the Finance Ministry ... (/nterruptions) assisting in marketing also.

MR. SPEAKER: He has shown his [ Trans/ation] inability. Without money he cannot do it. T.V. Serials SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: Sir, we have not only taken up, I have even argued with *583. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RA- the Prime Minister and the Finance Minister. WAT: Will the Minister of INFORMATION But the financial position is very AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: critical...( Interruptions) (a) whether Government are aware of MR. SPEAKER: He cannot make the the widespread criticism against some of the mare go without money. T. V. serials which merely ape foreign serials neither suiting to the Indian genius nor con- PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Sir, I am coming forming to the cherished values; and from a backward district and the industries there are going to become (b) if so, whether Government pro- sick ... (Interruptions) pose to review the implementation of their policy followed in regard to selection of the MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Sriballav Pani- serials? grahi. [English] SHRt SRIBALLAV PANIGRAHI: Sir, the target fixed should be two-fold. One THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE should be with regard to the quantity or the MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND number and the other should be with regard BROADCASTING (SHRI S. KRISHNA to the production side or the achievement. KUMAR): (a) The Government is not aware So, I would like to know from the hon. Minis- of any such widespread criticism. ter whatever might be the numerical target in that sector, how it compare with the target on (b) Does not arise. 11 APAIl11,"'_ 12

£Ttanslation} diHerent ideologies live in our coantry. There are some serials which 'ara not concerned SHRt KAlLA.PRASAD RAWAT: Mr. with the society at large. For instance, serial speaker. S"tf. T.V. aerial such as 'Kakaji 'Fouji' is aU right for the defence,personnel Kahin' which is currently being telecast, but what does the society as a whole gets Out portray a character who charges brokerage of it. As far as my knowledge goes and I have in the names of officers and leaders; buys observed myself alSo that there is scope for flat. and other luxurious items etc. Such further improvement. The officials con. things are being depicted in present day cerned should be asked to' select quality serials. Therefore. I would fike to know from serials which could enlighten the masses the han. Minister what specific directions are and give new direction to the society. By these serials providing to the society? Simi- ooing so, we can bring about substantial larly. the morning transmission is very bcr- improvement in our T. V. programmes. Seri- ing. In the afternoon transmission nothing is, als devoted 10 communal harmony can work shown except recipes for picktes and jams. wonders and therefore, such T.V. serials We can improve upon our T.V. programmes should be encouraged. provided we introduce some qualitative change in them. [English]

MR. SPEAKER: Do pickles and jams SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Sir. we not add to the taste of food? have only one channel and we have to cater to the taste of different sections of popula- (English] tion. The particular seria' 'Fouji' has been extremely well-received especially by the SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The han. members of the armed forces. retired sol- Member's observations are somewhat gen- diers and so on. It contributes to pride in our eral in nature. But I can assure him that the defence preparedness and national integra- Selection Committee for sponsored serials tion. The observation of the Member, that the has been given very clear guidelines. They serials do not contribute to social good is not are supposed to select the programmes in correct aJ all. There have been serials like such a manner as to promote. basic socio- 'Hum Log' whicll focussed on the problems cultural values. equal respect for all relig- of middle-class society. There have been ions, rejection of violence, projection of the serials fighting the social evils. There have rich cultural and diversity of the country been serials on environment and wild life, using the medium forthe right kind of values, informative and educative serials, serials etc. It is not as if guidelines are not given. A like 'Amir Khusro', 'Mirza Ghalib' and so on very vigorous process of selection is done, which promote national integration and reviews are made and only then the serials unity, not to speak of 'Ramayan', 'Ma- are selected. The question of how you re- habharat'. 'Discovery of India', etc. which spond to a particular serial varies from per- project the cultural, ethical and philosophical son to person. We are aware that there is basis of our society. Sit. it is our continuous scope for improvement of the programme. effort to improve the serials and promote the We shall continuously strive to achieve this national ethos and promote nation-building end. through all our programmes.

SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Sir, I am I Translation] one of those who .like most of the serials which are telecast by the Ooordarshan. They are very good. I would say that 80% of SHRI KAMLA PRASAD RAWAT: them are very good, except to say that on Hen. Speaker, Sir, as the hon. Minister has about 20% of them there can be difference of stated in his reply. it is true that people of opinion. 13 awmA 21, 1911 (SMCA}

(Tla. ' II·:M) ..... is 2. t2 per cent ina_a. of pcpuJa- tioR__,',_..SOwhycan'meraandmore· MR. SPEAKER: .Had it not been so. CO¥8I1Ig8bagivafl'through'themadiafor this you would not have called them good. No. 1 problem at the country?

(EngIsh) SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Sir, family planning oriented messages and SHRISHANTARAM NAil<: Bulon one prognnmes have been considerabfy in- aspect. I would like to state that earlier we creased in the last few months and yQars. had some serials which in fact. so to say. The Famly Planning Department has been encouraged superstitious belief. There were given the highest priority. We are in continu- some one or two serials and we had to ous touch wiIh them not only in respect of protest in this House to stop those serials. regular family planning programmes, but Now, I would like to know whether the Gov- also auxiliary programmes of child and ernment is having any proposal of TV serial maternal health. and Sir. as hon. Members before them which will promote eradication are aware these messages are being in- of superstitious belief. I the Government creasingly projected through our media in- does not have any such proposal. I would cluding Doordarshan. like to know whether Government proposes to specially invite such serials so that super- Carbide Factories stitious belief which is there in the society is either eradicated or reduced to a great *585. SHRI E. A YYAPU REDDYt: extent. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: When complaints about the particular serial were Win the Minister of INDUSTRY be voiced in this House as also outside, we had pleased to state: taken note of the Opinion and we stopped the programme to ensure that superstitious (a) the number of carbide factories in belief are not promoted through the medium. the country and the number of such factories We have a very large number of serials as have become sick and are lying idle, being telecast and in the pipeline and I am State-wise; and sure that a large number of them inter alia m~itate against superstitious belief. promote (b) the efforts being made to revive rationale thinking, etc. I am not able to pin- these factories; point any particular serial straightaway. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI DR. DIGVLJAY SINH: Mr. Speaker. J. VENGAl RAO): (a) and (b). As statement Sir. I seek an assurance from the hon. Min- is given below. ister not only because it is a No. 1 problem of the country-population explosion-but STATEMENT also because the Minister himseH is deeply committed to the subject. I ~eel that on the (a) and (b). At present, there are elevan one hand the Gov~mments .nts to give no Calcium Carbide factories in the organised further incentive for promoting this pro- sector in the country. As per available infor- gramme of family planning and the only mation, the following three calcium carbide redeeming feature is more coverage by the factories are presently lying closed: media, and on the other hand despite the fact that you had this programme as a na- tional programme. the oldest national pr0- (i) MIs. Andhra Pradesh Carbide gramme in the world even today, even in limited. Kurnool, Andhra 1987 t!'e figure given on the floor of the Pradesh. 15 Oral Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Oral AnSW8ll9 16

(ii) MIs. Panyam Cement and Min- remission for the electricity. I assure on erai Industries Limited, Sellary, behaH of the Government of Andhra Karnataka. Pradesh and the State Electricity Board that necessary remisaion will be given. The Chief (iii) MIs. iliac Limited, Bombay, Minister has also given an assurance to that Maharashtra. effed. But the probiem is of rehabilitation. Will the hon. Minister convene a meeting of On a reference received from Industrial the lOBI and the private entrepreneur who is Development Bank of India, for rehabilitation in charge of this and the Andhra Pradesh of MIs. Andhra Pradesh Carbide Limited, representative for the purpose of implement- which is lying closed due to disconnection of ing the rehabilitation programme and reviv- power supply to the factory by the Andhra ing this industry irrlmediately? Pradesh Electricity Board, we have recom- mended to the Government of Andhra SHRIJ. VENGAL RAO: Sir. as the han. Pradesh and Andhra Pradesh Electricity Member mentioned, when I was the Chief Board to consider substantial remission of Minister. I laid the foundation stone for this the outstanding Electricity dues of the com- unit. I inaugurated this unit. But unfortu- pany. The lOBI is also considering arehabili- nately under the Telugu Desam Govern- tation package. ment it was closed. (/ntsrruptions) Don't quarrel with me. No proposaJ for rehabilitation of the other two closed units have been received Sir. this project is a joint venture project either from State Government or the con- between the Andhra Pradesh Industrial cerned financial institutions, if any. Development Corporation and a private party. This is a power oriented industry. That SHRI E. AYVAPU REDDY: Sir, the two is the headache of the Andhra Pradesh units which have fallen sick are in Andhra Government, not of the Central Govern- Pradesh and they are in my constituency. ment. (/ntsrruptions) Sir, so far as the first unit is ooncerned, the hon. Minister while he was SHRI E. AYVAPU REDDY: He has not the Chief Minister ... answered my question. I have asked him. is he prepared to convene a meeting of all the SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: I am correcting representatives so that the problem for re- it. Only one is in his constituency and an- viving this industry can be taken up immedi- other is in Bellary. ately?

SHRI E. A YV APU REDDY: I know it is SHRI C. MADHAV REDDI: He is not in Bellary, but the Carbide Ltd. is in my ready to share the headache. constituency. (Interruptions) SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: As I said, I am DR. DATTA SAMANT: Sir. 200 people requesting the han. Member to advise his died in Bombay because of this project. Chief Minister to convene a meeting.

SHRI E. A YV APU REDDY: Sir, so far SHRI E. AYVAPU REDDY: The hon. as the first unit is concerned, it was started by Minister also knows that the leader of the the hon. Minister while he was the Chief Congress Party is the person who ;s con- Minister there and now it has fallen sick. I cerned in the joint venture. He was the pce have written a number of letrers about it. For President also. Therefore he has 'to come reviving this unit some steps have to be forward with some concrete scheme or he taken. What is stated is that the Andhra must try to cooperate with the Government Pradesh Government and the Andhra State of Andhra Pradesh and the Industrial Devel- Electricity Board have been asked to give opment Corporation there. But none of these 17 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Oral AnSW91S 18 is there. Therefore I want to know whether SHAI J. VENGAl RAO: The Board is the hone Minister will be pleased to convene there. And it must go to the BIFA. Thev will or think of convening a meeting of all these take the decision. representatives for the purpose of reviving this industry. That was my earlier question. Calcutta T.V. Programmes In Mldnapur and Kharagpur Next question is, with regard to Panyam cement. Here again, they have diverted it to *587. SHRI NARAYAN CHOU BEY: Acetylene plant. They are producing not only Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND calcium carbide but acetylene black also. BROADCASTING be pleased to state: Here again, there is shortage of power and they are suffering from it. The industry is (a) whether it is proposed to set up a being closed down. What are the steps taken new T. V. transmission centre at Midnapur in to see that it is not closed down. West Bengal;

SHAI J. VENGAL RAO: As I said, it is (b) if so, the area proposed to be purely a State Government sector. The covered by it; Centre has nothing to do with with the proj- ed. I was the Chief Minister at that time. He (c) the benefits which will accrue from does not know the details. The actual cause this transmission centre that could not be should not be put on the Congress Party. achieved from Kharagpur transmission The concerned person was an MLA and centre; former Minister, Mr. Rajasekhar Reddy. But because of the grudge against him, the Chief (d) whether the viewers of Midnapur, Minister has oompletely disconnected the Kharagpur etc. are unable to see the T.V. power. programmes relayed from Calcutta; and

SHRI E. AVYAPU REDDY: Because (e) if so, the steps Government propose he has failed to pay the electricity charges. to take to ensure that the T.V. programmes relayed from Calcutta can be viewed by the SHRI C. MADHAV REDOI: The hone people of Midnapur and Kharagpur? Minister is telling that it is the headache of the State Government. Here is the question of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE an industry becoming sick and how to revive MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND it. Why do you not confine your answer only BROADCASTING (SHRI S. KRISHNA to that question and say whether you are KUMAR): (a) to (e). A statement is given going to take ad;on under the Sick Industries below. Act because the matter is going to be re- ferred to the Board, whether some rehabili- STATEMENT tation scheme is to be worked out. These are the things which are to be considered. In- The low power TV transmitter installed stead of that you are indulging in politics. The recently at Medinipur, the Headquarter town question whether you were the Chief Minis- of Medinipur district of West Bengal, pro- ter or Mr. Rama Roo was the Chief Minister, vides coverage to an estimated area of what differenCe does it make? After all the about 700 Sq. Kms. Besides strengthening workers are going to be unemployed if the TV service in Medinipur town and adjoining industry is going to be closed. What is the areas which earlier received fringe service type of answer he is giving, I al'T,1 not able to from the low power TV transmitter at Khar- understand. I would like to know whether any agpur, the transmitter also extends cover- concrete steps underthe Sick Industries Act age to some areas not hitherto covered at all. are going to be taken by the Government of India? Primary (regional) service programmes 19 Oral AnsMtlS APRIL 11, 1989 OraIAns .... 20 produced and telecast from Doordarshan of this facility at Midnapore. Kendra. Calcutta are relayed by the high power TV transmitters at Calcutta, AsansoI, As regards the second part oftheques- Murshidabad and Kurseong, which are lion. West Bengal is the Slate in India which linked to Doordarshan Kendra. Calcutta stands second after Punjab as far as recap- through microwave circuits. Whereas the tion of regional language, in this case Ben- high power 1V transmitter at Calcutta also gali programmes, is ooncemed. 95% of the provides coverage to parts of Medinipur· people of West Bengal receive the national district. there is no proposal in the Seventh programme and 85% of the people of West Plan for linking TV transmitters at Medinipur Bengal receive the Bengali programmes. and Kharagpur for relay of programmes from Except for the State of Punjab. in all the other Doordarshan Kendra, Calcutta. The provi- States in India, only a lesser percentage of sion of this facility would depend upon the people of those Stales receive their own availability of resources under the future language programmes. plans of TV expansion. Thirdly, only high power transmitters of SHRI NARAYAN CHOU BEY: Sir. the each particular State are connected by statement does not answer the questions I miaowave to the main studio centre at the wanted to ask. A low power TV transmiller State Headquarters. As far as West Bengal has b!ten installed at Midnapore recently. is concemed, the high power transmitters at There is another low power TV transmilter at Calcutta, Asansol, Murshidabad and Kharagpur. only 15 kms. away from Midna- Kurseong are linked to Calcutta through pore. Again you are installing one Jew power microwave link. The low power transmitters, TV transmitter at Midnapore. But we, the in this case, Midnapore and Kharagpur. are people of Midnapore, Kharagpur, Burdwan not linked by the microwave because no low etc., are having no higher power TV trans- power transmitter is linked like that any- mitter and, therefore cannot view the Cal- where else in the country. Only the high cutta TV programme. Now, regarding view- power transmitters are linked. ing of Calcutta programme, you are taking us to the 21 st century. Thailand programme The portion uncovered by Bengali may come. Bangladesh programme may transmissions is only 15% of the population oeme but not Calcutta. We cannot view of West Bengal. In future programmes of TV Calcutta programme. I do not know what is expansion. the Bengali language coverage the reason for this. will be made available to Midnapore and Kharagpur also. Naturally. I beg to question you one thing. What is the major reason fOf installing SHRI NARAYAN CHOOSEY: Statis- another lower power TV transmitter at Mid- tics is a very dangerous thing. I do nol think napore although there is one low power TV that the statistics that only 15% are left out is Centre Kharagpur 10 KM awWfi from Midna- correa. You can say that there are officials pore. helping you in giving statistics. Midnapore has a population of 80 lakhs. There are 60 SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The first Iakh or 70 Iakh people as borrowers of TV. In low power transmitter in Midnapore district West Bengal, labour population is 6 crores. was set up at Kharagpur because that is a Naturally. you can very magnanimoUSly say very major industrial and devetoped area that 85% is covered. Regarding 15%, you with a population of more than 0"'; lakh. can answer I do not know.~ .•. Thereafter. on receipt of complaints that the Kharagpur transmitter does not serve many [Translstion) areas of Midnapore district. an additional LPTwas set up at Midnapore.I'am sura the MFl SPEAKER: Don' you haVe 81ft hon. Member;. not objecting totheprcMsion other,ubjed except following d populalion• 21 Oral Answers CHAITRA 21,1911 (SAKA) Oral AnSW91$ 22

[EngHsh] SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: It i9'·rich in terms of culture also. ' SHRI NARAYAN CHooBEY: Midna- pore played the most glorious role in the MR. SPEAKER: Also, it is rich In popu- struggle for independence in the whole of lation. India. That is why, no television is there'· DR. SUDHIR ROY: The Burdwan Dis- This district is being neglected pur- trict is 95 kms. from Calcutta. But cannot see posely. I would like to know the availability of programmes relayed from the Calcutta resources for the future plan of TV expan- Centre. sion. When the father dies, then the bullocks would be dividedl When are you going to SHRI SAIFUDDIN CHOWDHARV: We give this high power transmission so that we have to go to Calcutta to see the TV Pro- can see Calcutta programmes? grammes.

[ Trans/ation] DR. SUDHIR ROV: We can see only the national programmes. This indicates the MR. SPEAKER: What wrong have they view of the Government that regional culture done? should better be suppressed. Therefore, I would like to know from the hon. Minister THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI whether he would make any arrangement so VASANT SATHE): Is the father's death that the people of Burdwan can enjoy all the necessary for the division of the bullocks? TV programmes relayed from the Calcutta Centre. [English] MR. SPEAKER: The answer is same. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: The very That is what I told you. fact that a low power transmitter was given to Midnapore--as hon. Member has men- Committee on Petrochemical Industry tioned, it is only about 15 KM from the original transmitter-is a refledion of the *588. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- extra interest taken by the Central Govern- WARI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be ment for the district of Midnapore. That is the pleased to state: way how it should be given. (/nteffuptions) My fads are entirely oorrect. Only 15 per (a) whether any committee was set up cent of the people of West Bengal are yet to to examine the various proposals submitted be covered by Bengali programmes and this by the petrochemical industry in public and is the lowest among all the State of the private seaors; and country other than Punjab. We have a steady programme for the development of (b) if so, the recommendations made by TV and low power transmitter clusters will be the committee? replaced by high power transmitters in due COurse of time depending on the scientific THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI distribution of the overall transmission sys- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). A statement tem. At that time. this will also be oonsidered. is given below. (Interruptions) STATEMENT DR. SUDHIR ROY: Sir. I would like to bring to the notice of the hon. Minister that (a) No Committee has been, set up in practically the situation is the same in re- the Department ot Chemicals and Petro- spect of Burdwan District which is rich both chemicals to examine all such proposals. in terms ~ agriculture and industry. Ad-hoc Committees are however some- Oral Answers APRil 11 ,1989 Oral Answers 24 t.mes· pppointed to examine the merits of SHRI PARAG CHAlIHA: I would like to sot'U)/',ajor petro-chemical Projects. know from the hon. Minister whether any '\tlt . proposal for setting up another petrochemi- (~} Does not arise. cal industry in Assam has been received and if so what is the fate of that request. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: Sir, I would like to know from the hon. Minister SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: One of the whether the Union Government are serious recommendations of the Committee is provi- in giving a major thrust in the petrochemical sion of a gas-based petrochemical industry sector during the Eighth Five Year Plan in Assam. That was also mentioned. period and if so how much amount they have proposed for investment in such industries SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: The ques- during the Eighth Five Year Plan period. Is tion of Haldia petrochemical complex in there any proposal before the Government West Bengal was raised a number of times. for expansion and modernisation of the ex- Even after 11 years, the clearance has not isting petrochemical industries? To what been given. May I know from the hon. Minis- extent will the present production capacities ter how long West Bengal Government will be increased by modernisation and expan- have to wait for getting clearance for the sion of the existing plants? What are the new petrochemical industry in Haldia? projects that will be undertaken during the Eighth Plan? SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: This question is about the Eighth Plan. But the hon. SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: Sir, the Plan- Member is asking a question about the Fifth ning Commission had appointed a Commit- Plan Period. How can I answer it? (Interrup- tee under the Chairmanship of Prof. Abid tions) Hussain. That Committee was appointed on 12th July 1988. That Committee has submit- [ Translation] ted its report and it is undertheconsideration of the Government. Recommendations of High Power Committee on DTC Losses SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESWARI: Sir, I wanted to know from the hon. Minister -590. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- whether any Committee was set up. The MOOWALlAt: hon. Minister has stated that a Committee SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: has been set up. However, I would like to ask the hon. Minister as to how many applica- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be tions are pending for starting petrochemical pleased to state: industries as on today and if so when the Government is going to sanction such li~ (a) whether the High Power Committee cences. headed by Justice R.B. Mishra has submit- ted its report to Government;

SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: Sir, I have' (b) if so, whether the Committee has answered this question whether the Govern- considered the reasons for continuoUS ment will constitute a Committee. I have losses by the Delhi Transport Corporation; already stated that the Planning Commis- sion set up this Committee. Actually, the (c) if so, the recommendations made by recommendations are under the considera- the Committee in this regard; tion of the Government. Regarding the number of applications that are pending, I (d) the action taken thereon; and will let my sister know 6f the details after getting romplete information. (e) Hnot, the reasons therefor? 25 CIW1RA21. 1911 (SAKA) Ora} Answers 26

never been discussed. Who is the correct person? lIE...sTER OF NXJSTRY (SHRI J .. VE:JSAL IW»: (a) Yas. Sir. SHRIJ. VENGAlRAO: I am the correct man because he has mentioned that he has got the highest regard for me. The Mishra Committee was appointed only for the revi· (cI1D (e'_ 00 nat arise in view of part (b) sion of the pay scales, the difference be- .,__ tween the Govemment D.A. pattern and that of the Fourth Pay Commission and not about SIR HALWANT SINGH RAMOOW- the losses of the L Te. This was not in the AUA: SfI'...... gal the highest regard for terms of reference of this Committee. That is ire han.. Mil - Sr_ But. I am sony that in why, I answered like this. If he wants any .a=uuiiag IIIJ CllIeStion. he did not even further information, he should put the ques- s;Bldlha1 a ...... (~) tion to the Minister of Surface Transport, he will give the answer.

MR. SPEAKER: For the losses and MIl SPEAKER: A hinI is more than gains. ~ b arI inleligent person. Dr. V. Venkatesh - Not present ~6J.91W4 Shri Gurudas Kamat - Not present SIR BALWANT SINGH RAMOOW-

AUA.: Siir8 RIJ qlles1ion was: SHRI J. VENGAl RAO: We had pre- pared answers for all the questions ... '"WdtHII_1he High Power Committee Ihaaded by Justice RB. Mishra has MR. SPEAKER: Very well, Sir. That is swbuilled its report to Gcwamment; (b) expected of you. Sir. • so" ...... the Commllee has «D111Sid1ered1he reasons lor mntinuous Shri Sreenivasa Prasad. bssesbJ1he DehTransportCarpora- Iian.... Import of components by Maruti Udyog limited The 1611iSla """"'111 IDthe fiIst paIt- ...... Ca...... was headed by ·593. SHRI V. SREENIVASA ..IIu51IiI:a llisha has said: "'Yes. Sir.- But PRASADt: NgliiCiiiIij .. ~ mentioned in part (b). SHRI M. V. CHAN- he has said: '"No.. Sir... 8ut1he 8JP Chief Ur. DRASEKHARA MUR- IlL ICbunna gatIe a statement saying that THY : ,Justice II"sIIra Q)mmiDee disalSS8d about .. lasses aa::n.d to DTC. The Uishra WiH the Minister of INDUSTRY be eom.m... has said 1hat the PTe. Machs pleased to state: hasgata... d2277busswilh 8.5 persons .....ng ...... , bus and1he deJa is only (a) whether most of the components As... 5..50CDOIeS.. Whaaas in the DTC. with a used by the Maruti Udyog limited are im· ...~ 4.269 buses and 9.7 persons working ported; "tJIa7y bus.,1he deIa is Rs. 164 aore5. I ."pwising1h3lon'"one hand,,1he Mishra (b) if so, the details of imported compo- eo. ... is. nl rod m by saying that they nents used by the Maruti Udyog Limited and '-CIDIIIM::Iad II:IIat sautiny m the case the firms from which th9Se are being im- .... • ..1heauau. hesayslhat thai has ported; and 27 APRIl 11. 1989 OtaIAnswws • (c) the steps Government propose 10 3. Con Rod Assembly. take to develop strong and quality automo- bile component industry in the country rather 4. Washer Motor & Pump Assembly. than to resort to import of components in order to check and reduce the prices of 5. Bearings. passenger cars? 6. Case Distrbutor. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). Statement-I is 7. Oil Pan. given below. 8. Transmission Mountings. STATEMENT-I 9. Engine Mounting. (a) and (b). No. Sir. However. a list indicating major components being im- 10. Con Rod Bearings. ported for Maruti Car. Omni and Gypsy is given in the Annexure below. These compo- 11. Gears. nents are being imported from Suzuki Motor Company, Japan. 12. Thermostat.

(c) The Government have encouraged 13. Ring Set Piston. the indigenous auto-components industry to upgrade and modernise their technology. 14. Belt Timing. Some of the measures taken to achieve this include:- 15. Hub.

(i) Delicensing of the automobit& 16. Bearing Crank Thrust. component industry. (ii) Dereservation of a number of 17. Frames. automobile components from the small scale sector. i 8. Synchroniser Sleeves. (iii) Reduction of import duty on jigs. fixtures. dies, pattern. moulds, 19. High Tension Cords. press tools and parts of press tools. 20. Moulding Roof. (iv) Introduction of broad-banding scheme for auto-components. 21. Certain Hoses. (v) A liberal approach for seledive import of know..oow by the exist- 22. Certain Fasteners. ing units for modernisation and upgradation. B. ForGypsy

Annexure 1. Cover Exhaust Manifold.

Major Components being imported by 2. Case Distributor. Marut; Udyog Limited 3. CarbureUer Assembly. A. For Car & Omni 4. Extension Comp. Centre Floor 1. Cover Exhaust Manifold. SideR& L

2. Carbure"er Assembly. 5. l.aIch Assembly Front Door R & L Ora/·AnsMn CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Ora/AnSMN'S 30

6. Bar Assembly Rear Bumper. 32. Speedometer Assembly.

7. Lock Assembly Rear Gate. 33. Switch Assembly Comb.

8. Fan Engine Cooling. 34. Panels.

9. Cable Assembly Choke. 35. Fasteners.

10. Cable Assembly Clutch. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRASAD: Mr. Speaker, Sir, I understand that the Maruti 11. Shroud Farn. Udyog Limited is worried about the increase in the prices of passenger cars and feels that 12. Rear Shock Absorbe(. it can be checked or reduced only by devel- oping a very strong and quality automobile 13. Stabiliser Assembly frant. component industry in this country. After the budget the price of the standard Maruti Car 14. Red Assembly Front stabiliser. was fixed at Rs. 86000/- showing Rs. 65000 increase, plus other charges. The price of 15. Trip Comp. Front Deer Opening. the people's car, when Maruti Udyog Ltd .. was set up in 1983 was fixed at Rs. 47000; 16. Ring Set Piston. -. Even the Managing Director of the Maruti Udyog Ltd. told that unless the indigenous 17. Thermostat. component industry is encouraged by budg- etary, financial and infrastructural incen- 18. Belt Timing. tives, the automobile industry would not be able to resist price increases in the end 19. Synchroniser Hub. product, that is the Car.

20. Bearing Crankshaft. Therefore, in view of this I would like to know from the Minister as to what steps the 21. Bearing Crankth rust. Government propose to take to develop strong and qualitative automobile compo- 22. Hub Assembly Locking. nents in the country.

23. Shafts Transfer Set. SHRI J. VENGAL RAO: As the Hon. Member mentioned, the price of the car has 24. Bearings. gone up. The actual production cost of the car is only Rs. 500001-; the remaining are 25. Synchroniser Ring. taxes.

26. Brake Assembly Centre. About the indigenisation, for all vehicles there is 83.23% indigenisation. For the car 27. Rear Axle Assembly. now we have achieved 86.23°/c, indigenisa- tion. In 1990-91 it will go upto 92% indigen- 28. Transmission Gears. isation.

29. Sheet Front Floor Silencer. [ Translation]

30. Washer Motor High Tension Cord DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI: Set Mr. Speaker, Sir, Maruti Udyog, a public sector undertaking. installs air-conditioners 31. Engine Mountings. in its cars and charges As. 22,000 for it. An

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Sir, there are several reasons which lead to the s~eme for award to public enterpriles benamr transactions. Some people are not for excellence in performance, introduced In in a position to invest money. Others resort 1986, 'operation of Suggestion Scheme' h.. to 'benami' transactions because of your been induded as dpe of the parameters for laying down a condition that the agency the purpose of evaluation of overall perform- cannot be sold or transferred in anyone ance. else's name or operatac:f in partnership with any other person till the expiry of a specified period. This also encourages 'benami' trans- The Suggestion Scheme is in operation adions. May I know from the hon. Minister if in most of the public enterprises and many the time limit in this case will be relaxed and suggestions received from the employees transfer of agency to someone else will be have· been accepted and implemented by allowed? the Managements.

SHRI BRAHMA DUTT: If the time limit [ Trans/ation] is relaxed everyone will like to make money by transferring the dealership and it will Time Bound Promotions of Post and become a racket. Telegraph Employees MR. SPEAKER: Question hour is over. *576. SHRI R.P. SUMAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS (a) whether the Supreme Court had [English] issued an order on the 29th August, 1988 regardi ng the time bound promotions of Post Suggestion Scheme In Industries and TelElgraph employees; if so, the details thereof; *575. SHRI JAGANNATH PAT- TANAIK: (b) Whether the Supreme'. Co~rt had SHRI A.M. SHOYE: directed the Union Gpverr1fTlertt to imple- ment the orders withim' four rhottlhs; Will the ",,~nister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state the steps taken by Govern- (c) if so, wh~th~r the said order has ment to spread awareness on the Sugges- since been implemEinted within the pre- tion Scheme in public sector industries and scribed period and if not, the reasons there· conduct open forum to invite suggestion for; from employees? (d) whether Government propose to THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI ensure immediate implementation of these J. VENGAL RAO): A statement is given orders of the Supreme Court; and below. (e) if so, by what time and if not, the STATEMENT reasons therefor?

The need for operation of Suggestion THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- Scheme in public sector industries has been TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): (a) stressed by the Bureau of Public Enterprises to (e). The Supreme Court has directed that in its guidelines issued in 1971 and 1975. In the Union Government can confer some CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) WnYten AnsW913 38 37 \

..... advanIage on the employe •• belong- J. VENGAL. RAO): (a) to (e). The Regional ingto the Scheduled castes..t Scheduled ResearCh Laboratory t Jorhal, has dev.... Trbts in the P & TDepartrnerjwhich may be oped a process on laboratory scale for commensurale with the extra advantage manufacture of newsprint by de-inking of old which such employees are enjoying in other newspapers. Pilot plant and printability trials departments of the Government of India. have shown satisfactory strenqth properties . The manner in which this is to be done has and printing quality. The process has not yet I been left to the disa8tion of the Govemment been commercialised and requires further of India to be implemented without detriment techno-eoonomic evaluation. to the maintenance of efficiency in the serv- ice. Export of Marut. Cars to Hungary

2. Consideration of all aspects of the *578. PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: case as ordered by the Supreme Court re- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to quires detailed examination of various is- state: sues involved by different departments. The matter has been already taken up on priority (a) whether the Maruti Udyog Limited basis. Extonsion of time limit has been has entered into an agreement with the sought for from the Supreme Court. Government of Hungary for export of cars;

[English] (b) if so, the terms and conditions of ~he agreement; and Old newspapers .s raw material after deinking (c) wh~therGOvernment propose to set up joint ventures.also and if so, the details -sn. SHRI NARSING SURYAVANSI: thereof? Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAl RAO): (a) and (b). Maruti Udyog (a) whether old newspapers can be limited has entered into a five year agree- deinked by a process developed by the ment with MIs. Mogurt, Hungary, for export Regional Research Laboratory, Jorhat and of upto 5.000 cars per annum. Under this used as raw material for newsprint as re- agreement, Maruti Udyog Ltd. win import ported in the 'Deccan Herald', dated 13th automobile components from Hungary March, 1989; equivalent to the value of 500 cars each year. (b) if so, whether the deinked pulp has been tried for making newsprint; (c) No, Sir.

(c) if so, the results achieved; Short DIsta1ce Calling Area Scheme

(d) whether it is proposed to use this *579. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- technology to save foreign exchange and ASHAR: Wall the Minister of COMMUNICA- conserve wood resourees; and TK>NS be pleased to state:

(e) if not, the reasons therefqr? (a) whether Govemment have ac- cepted the Short Distance Calling Area THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Scheme eartier known as Unit Free Zone 39 Written Answet'S APRIL 11.1.

Scheme for Telecom tariff;

(b) if so, the details thereof aJongwiIh the date with effect from which it has been introduced and the number of Short Dis- tance Calling Areas for the country with specifications of distance; and

(c) if not, the reasons for delay and when the sch~me would be introduced?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): (a) Such a scheme is under oonsideration of Department of Telecommunications.

(b) and (c). The Short Distance Charg- ing areas are being demarcated. Date of implementation can be decided after all the technical arrangements needed for the change over are completed.

Setting up of plant for manufacture 0 Acetc cld

*580. SHRI Y.S. MAHAJAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state:

(a) whether the Gujarat Narmada Val- ley Fertilizer Corporation Ltd. (G Fe) has submitted a proposal for setting up a plantfor manufacturing 40,000 tonnes per annum of acetic acip based on methanol;

(b) whether any representation or rep-- resentations have been received against the proposal; if so, the details thereof; and

(d) thedecisiontakenbyGOvemmentin J. VI::~iAL... HII"-lt the matter?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSrn (SHRI J. VENGAL RAD): (a) Yes. Sir.

(b) Representations hIMt been re- ceived against the proposal; mainlY from All India Alcohol Based Industries Devetop:

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No such detaIad projact report haa been obtained.

(d) j not. the reasons for not cc6Ig MRL has been asked 10 submit the Such report; feasHily rapoItaJ early as poss.. not later than 30th November. 1989. THE MINISTER OF INDUSlRV (SHRI J. VENGAl RAO): (a) 10 (d). A Letter of Target for 1 prodUctIon by Central Intent has been g~ 10 Madras Refiner- Coalfields Umlted ies limited on 6.2.1g8?"for manufacture of the following:- *592. SHRJ GURUDAS KAMAT: Will the Minister~ ENE RGY be pleased to state: (i) Qrtho.Xyiene - 3O~OOO TPA (a) the targat for production of 0081 set

(i) Benzene ao.OOOTPA for the Central Coalfields limited for 1987p 88 and 1988-89; (Ii) Purifl8d Tere- 150,OOOlPA pfdhlc Acid (b) how far the target for 1987-88 has been achieved; and The Gcwamment has granted first stage clearance to MRl for incurring an expendi- (c) how far the target for 1988-89 has ture of As. 18 aor for undertaking pre- been achieved till December. 19881 project adivliasfor~on of a detailed feashility repOrt b aeromaticJPTA project at Madras. The Government has also :mE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI granted approval to seiad M1s. SPIC as c0- VASANT SATHE): (a) to (c). Targets and promoter with URI.. for setting up of this actual production for last two years of Cen- Complex. tral Coalfields Umited are as follows: (in minion tomes)

Year Achievement

1 2 4

1987-88 27.29 27.30 100.04%

1988-89 28.00 100.14%

(18229 upto December, 1988) IntioducUon of two nar Tartff for S.T.. D. introdue» a two tier tariff for SID telephone . Telephone Calls calls;

(b) if so. the details thereof; and *594. SHRI BANWARI tAl PUROHIT: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) when the scheme wiD be introduced and to what extent the consumers wi. be (a) whether Government propose to benefied? 45 CHAITRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) 46

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA- with effect from 1.4.1989. The consumers TIONS (SHRI BIR BAHADUR SINGH): (a) will be able to get cheaper National STD Thethraetiertariff in place of existing two tier calls during the late night hours. tariff for National SID calls has already been mtroduced on experimental basis. Projects by National Projects Construc- tion Corporation (b) STD calls will now be having three tier tariff. Normal SID tariff between 8 A. M. 5591. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Min- to.7 P.M., fifty percent of normal STD tariff ister of ENERGY be pleased to state the between 7 P.M. to 10 P.M. and 6 A.M. to 8 details of the projects being executed by the A.M. and nearly 25 (twenty five) percent of National Projects Construction Corporation the normal tariff between 10 P.M. to 6 A.M. in the country at present? On Sundays and National Holidays, STO calls will be charged fifty percent of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE normal rate . from 6 A.M. to 10 P. M. and DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- nearly 25 percent of the norrilal charges for TRY OF ENERGY (SHRt KALPNA TH RAI): the rest of the period at night. A statement giving the details of projects under execution by the NPCC in the 'X)untry (c) The scheme has been introduced is given below. 11.

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inflation of LIcence of indigenous structure, in relation to industrial costs, cost PenlclIIIn reduction, productivity and tariffs etc.

5592. SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA: Will [EngHsh) the Mi1ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Procurement of Woollen Dress Materl· (a) whelherGov8mrnenl have received alsbyONGC complaints from various UPs in 1987 and 1988 regarding inflation of licence of indige- 5594. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA: nous penicillin by considering various irrele- Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND vant fig.. es; and NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

(b) whether any action has been taken (a) whether the Regional Business on these complaints, if so, what are the Centres of the Oil and Natural Gas Commis- findings and if not, the reasons for not taking sion (ONGC) have finalised the tenders for any action? procurement of woollen dress materials;

nfE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHAI (b) if so, the total requirement of each J. VENGAl RAO): (a) No complaints re- centre of the materials and the details of garding -inflation of licence for indigenous prices per metre received from each partici- Penicilin-have been received in this Depart- pant in the bids of the centres; ment (c) whether the supply orders have (b) Does not arise. been placed by the Regional Business Centres of the ONGC; and [ Translation] (d) if so, the details thereof with prices Industrial PrIcea Commission of each contract and the details of supply order given to any public sector manufactur- 5593. SHRI DAL CHANDERJAIN: Will ing unit, if any, and how many supply orders the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to have been given to the dealers of woollen state: cloth with their names?

(a) whether Government propose to set THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE up an Industrial Prices Commission, on the MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- lines of AgriaJlturaJ Prices Commission, for RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA CUTT): (a) to (d). fixing the prices of Industrial products; and The time and labour involved in collection of this information from all the Regional Busi- (b) if so, the details thereof? ness Centres may not be commensurate with the purpose sought to be achieved. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTUENT OF INDUSTRIAl DEVEl- Youth Parliament In Stat•• OPI.ENT f.j 1HE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (8) and (b). No SW, thent already exists a Bureau of 5595. SHRI P.A. ANTONY: Will the Industrial Coals and Prices to advise the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS be Go¥emment on various aspeds of price pleased to state: 67 Written Answers APRIL 11 t 1089 68

(a) the names of the States where ees;and Youth Parliaments are organised by his Ministry; (d) if not, the reasons therefor?

(b) whether there is any proposal to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE popularise Youth Parliament throughout the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI country; and GIRIDHAR GOUANGO): (a> No, Sir. In the extra departmental branch post offices, the (c) if so, the details thereof and if not, extra departmental employees have sepa- the reasons therefor? rate functions to perform. While for their functions the extra departmental agents are THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN· attached to the Branch Post Office, the TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- controlling Officer of all extra departmental FORMATION AND BROADCASTING agents is Inspector of Post Offices or Super- (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): (a> Youth Parlia- intendent of Post Offices. ments are organised by the States them- selves. Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs only The allowances of the extra departmen- provides literature, guidance and financial tal employees are fixed on the basis of their assistance. workload. As such there is no anomaly in the emoluments of Extra Departmental Branch (b) and (c). Kendriya Vidyalayas in all Postmasters. the ·States are to be covered during 1989-90. All the States have been advised to partici- (b) No, Sir. The recommendations-of pate in the national Youth Parliament Quiz the Committee on extra departmental sys- Contest. These contests are to be telecast tem for payment of pro-rata wages to extra from November onwards. departmental agents has not been accepted by Government. A minimum of 40 points Facilities to Extra Departmental em- workload has been accepted for ED Branch ploy... Postmasters and a minimum of Rs. 2401- p.m. has been ensured to each and every 5596. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: Will EDA (other than ED BPM) irrespective of the the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be workload. The form ulation of pro-rata wages pleased to state: cannot be applied in this system where emoluments have been fixed in an entirely (a) whether the Extra Departmental different working system. Branch Postmasters are getting less emolu- ments than some of their subordinates; if so, (c) and (d). No, Sir. The extra depart- what steps are being taken to remove this mental agents are part time employees. and anomaly; they cannot be treated at par with regular departmental employees. (b) whether Govemment have granted separate hourly rates to Extra Departmental [ Translation] Delivery Agents doing postman job as rec- ommended by the Savoor Committee; if not Automatic Telephone Exchanges In the reasons therefor; Bihar In Eighth Plan

(c) whether Government propose to 5597. SHRI S.D. SINGH: Will the grant various advances to extr.Departmen· Mini ••rot COMMUNICATIONS be pleased tal employees at par with the regular em ploy- to state: 89 CHArrRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) 10

(a) the number of ciIies in BhIr having STATEIENT automatic telephone exchanges; 'The following .. the names of the cIies (b) the aiteria for instaIing automaticI whMJlMJIomIJIicIBIectIonic ext:hllnges .,. elecbonic exchanges; and ptOpOS«I to be Installed duting 8Ih Plan. Subject,., availability of equjJment. (c) the names of cities in Bihar where automalicleledronic exchanges are pr0- 1. Palna posed to be installed during the Eighth Plan? 2. Ranchi THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 3. Dhanbad GIRIOHAR GOMANGO): (a) There are 375 automatic exchanges out of which 80 are in 4. loyabad Cities. 5. Sinidih (b) (i) During the Seventh FIVe Vear Plan the criteria for installation of 6. GopaIganj automm~e~n~excha~s is as follows; 7. Raxaul

Automatisation of all Distrid 8. Khagaria Headquarters. 9. Kishanganj Conversion of CBM Exchanges in the range of 400-800 lines 10 10. Pakur Max- II exchanges. 11. Sahibganj Conversion of CBM exchanges with capacity greater than 800 12. Godda lines as on 1.4.85 into Max- I exchanges. 13. Madhepura

(ii) The aiteria in the proposed 14. Jehanabad Eighth Plan for automatisation is to convert all manual exchanges 15. lohardaga into automatic exchanges by the end of Eighth FIVe Vear Plan. 16. Gumla

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22. Thakurganj 46. ·Waini

23. Salmari 47. Pusa

24. Kasba 48. Katori

25. Belsand 49. Rosera

26. Sherghati 50. Janakpur Road

27. Nalanda 51. Barangania

28. Madhuban 52. Runisaidpur

29. Rajgir 53. Sheohar

30. Kudra 54. Kodarma

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~8. Marauwa 57. 1l,m'Tlanki

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3A NarK~tlaganj 5598. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to ""'('J"J . Lauria state:

'.f. Masrak (a) whether there is an acute shortage of mines rescue apparatus and other life 41. Guru Bazar saving equipments in the mines rescue sta- tions under the control of.subsidiary compa- 42. Sakri nies of the Coal India Limited;

43. Laukaha (b) if so, the details thereof; and

44. Nirmali (c) the action taken to procure the equipments in order to have fully equipped 4:1 . Ghoghadiha resr.ue stations? 73 WnYtenAn ..... CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) 74

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI the execution of these prbjeds as per sched- VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. The mine ule? rescue stations of the subsidiaries of 'the Coal India Limited are reasonably equipped THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE with necessary life saving apparatus and DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- equipments. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (8) to (d). The National Hydro-electric Power (b) and (c). The Coal India Limited has, Corporation has so far completed three however, a plan to upgrade its rescue serv- Hydro-electric Projects, namely, Loktak, ices and rescue stations/rescue rooms by Baira Siul and Salal. These projects were equipping and revamping them with latest taken up for execution much before the life saving equipments and technology up- formation of NHPC in November, 1975. Due gradation. to various technical problems encountered during execution, and other factors like Project. Undertaken by N.H.P.C. changes in the designs and scope of work, geological reasons and land acquisition 5599. DR. V. VENKATESH: Will the problems, the targets of completion of these Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: projects had to be revised. The NHPC had taken necessary steps and made all-out (a) whether the National Hydro-electric efforts to ensure the completion of these Power Corporation has been maintaining its projects according to schedules fixed after schedules for various hydro-electric power taking into account various problems. The projects throughout the country; details of the cost and the schedule of com- pletion of the projects, which have been (b) jf not, whether as a resultther90fthe completed or are under execution by NHPC, projects undertaken by NHPC become cost- are given in statement I below. lier; (e) and (f). Apart from the projects (c) if so, the details thereof; under execution, the details of project pro- posals under consideration for being taken (d) the details of the projects completed up for implementation by NHPC during the and undertaken during Seventh Plan period 8th Plan period are given in statement- II with or without foreign collaborations; below. The steps being taken by NHPC to expedite the completion of the projects in- (e) the details of the projects to be clude effective monitoring, both at Corpora- handled by NHPC during Eighth Plan period tion as well as at project levels, better coor- with their projected cost, foreign participa- dination with contractors/equipment suppli- tion and locations etc; and ers, State Governments and Central Gov- ernment agencies, and the use of modern and sophisticated equipment for tunnelling (f) the action proposed to be taken for and underground works. 75 WItIM-... APRIL 11, 1_ """Anaws 78 It f'.5lt~ 8 t i~ ..... 'gooliel '8 ~~ -"~~ c ~ ijJ! 8Q).!!~Q)_. ."'( ~ ...... u ......

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STATEMENT.

Details 01 the Projecfs LIceIy to be Handled by NHPC During 8th Plan

SLNo. Name 01 the ptoject LocaIion Cost Inc. IDC (Rs. in CtOIfIS)

1 2 3 4

1. Chamera Stage-II (300 UW) H.P. 551.61

2. Uri (480 MW) J&K 1690.98

3. Rangit (60 MW) Sikkim 150.93

4. Salal Stag&- II (345 MW) J&K 287.29

5. Baglihar (450 MW) J&K 997.50

6. Sawalkot (600 MW) J&K 1256.01

7. Dhauliganga (280 MW) U.P. 519.28

8. Dhaleshwari (120 MW) Mizoram 274.90/

9. Teesta , Stage- III (1200 MW) Sikkim 897.05

[Translation) (d) if so, the number of such agencies eannarked for allotment in Bihar in 1989-90 Petrol/DIesel RetaB Outlets and LPG and the locations thereof? Agencies

5600. SHRI VOOY KUMAR YADAV: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF lHE Wdl the Minister of PETROlEUM AND MINISTRY OF PETROlEU~ AND NAru- NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: RAl GAS (SHAI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) The number of Retail Outlet (Petrol Diesel) deal- (a) the number of petrol/diesel fetail ersh__ and LPG distributorships in the outlets and L.P.G. agencies in the country as country as on. 1.1.1989 is given in statement on date, State-wise; I below.

(b) the details of the fetail outlets and LPG agencies allotted during the last three (b) The required information is given in years, State-wise; Statement II below.

(c) whether the number 01 such agen- (c) No. Sir. cies aIotIed in Bihar itllass in proportion to its population; and (d) Does not arise in view of (c) above. 85 ...,Anstews CHAITRA 21, 1911 ($AKA) WIiIt." Ansttws 86

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,.,. of existing LPGIRO Dealershps as on 1. 1. 1989

StatelUnion TMrIoty LPG Distributotships R.D. Dealerships

1 2 3

1. Andaman Nicobar 1 2

2. Andhra Pradesh 316 1145

3. Arunachal Pradesh 8 23

4. Assam 76 294

5. Bihar 124 855

6. Chandigarh 23 18

7. Dadra & Nagar Haveli 2

8. Daman & Diu 2 28

9. Delhi 197 233

10. Goa 26 36

11. Gujarat 266 920

12. Haryana 101 468

13. Himachal Pradesh 31 73

14. Jammu & Kashmir 51 112

15. Kamataka 207 891

16. KeraIa 138 669

17. Lakshadweep

18. Madhya Pradesh 189 816

19. MaharasItra 505 1.c52

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1 2 3

21. Meghalaya 8 41

22. Mizoram 3 8

23. Nagaland 10 23

24. Orissa 71 309

25. Pondicherry 5 25

26. Punjab 128 924

27. Rajasthan 117 812

28. Sikkim 2 8

29. Tamil Nadu 2n 1366

30. Tripura 9 28

31. Uttar Pradesh 362 1748

32. West Bengal 195 959 89 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) 90

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(EngIsh) (a) whether there is any mechanism or machinery in the Mahanagar Telephone ProductIon 01 EIIctronIc ".... Button Nigam Ltd., New Delhi Head Quarters ()_f- T...... ficas to monitor the disposal of communica- tions received by the Area Managers' Of- 5601. SHAI MUlLAPPALLY RAMA- . ficas from the Public about charges billed by CHANDRAN: WiI the Minister of COMMU- the computer in the periodical billing cycle; NICATIONS be pleased to state: (b) if so. the details thereof; (a) whether the Indian Telephone in- dustries (In) has commenced commercial (c) whether the Area Manager's Offices production of eIedIonic push button tele- particularty t~at in South Delhi takes as phones;and many as six months and even longer to reply to such public complaints; if so. the reasons (b) the production capacity of m in this therefor; field? (d) the numberof oommunications lying THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE unreplied for more than three months in the MINISTJ:tY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt various A.Ms' Offices in the capital as on 1- GIRIOHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes. Sir. 4-1989; and

(b) The licenced capacity is 10.5 lakhs (e) the steps being taken to dispose per annum. Production capacity is tieing set them of? up progressively from 1989-90 onwards. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Newsprint AIIoIment Policy MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GCMANGO): (a) and (b). Area 5602. SHAI UOHANBHAI PATEL: Will Managers whc are senior offICers of the the Minister of INFORMATION AND Administrative grade have been charged BROADCASTING be pleased to state: with the responsibility of dealing with all the communications received by them for full Governmenfs policy in regard to the and final settlement. They have been given allotment of quota of newsprint amongst the adequate powers in this regard. The moni- newspapers including smal newspapers? toring is done by the Office of Chief General Manager, Delhi unit through monthly state- THE MINISTER ' OF PARLIAMEN- ments. TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (c) No Sir. (SHRI H.K.L 8HAGA1): The Newsprint AIocation Policy for the year 1989-90 has (d) There is no case unreplied for more not yet been finalised. than three months. (e) Does not arise. DIsposal of Communications Received by the IIahanagar Telephone Nigam Urdu News Bulletin from AJ.R., Patn. Ltd. 5603. SHRiSANATKUMAR MANDAl: 5604. SHRIR.P.DAS: Will the Minister WIIthe .....01 COMMUNICATIONS be of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 99 APRIl 11, 1989 Written Answers 100

(a> whether the President of AU India tor this stockyard. After flnalisation of the Urdu Press Correspondents' ~sociation, tanc:ters received, it would be possibieforCIL. Danapur Cantonment, Patn. had sent to commission a stockyard at Raipur. memoranda to his MInistry of on 13 May 1988, 17 November, 1,988 and 8 FebruaIY, Unklng of All District Headquarter. by 1989 regarding broadcasting of Urdu news STD In Tamil Nadu bulletins from AIR, Patna in regional lan- guage programme; and 5606. SHRIC.K.KUPPUSWAMY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (b) if so, the readion of Government pleased to state: thereto?

Coal stock.. yard In Bhlla., Madhya (d) if so. the details thereof? Pr8deah THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 5605. SHRIPARASRAMBHARDWAJ: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. state: (b) One District Headquarter is yetta be (a) whether there is a coal stock-yard in provided with this facility while all the cities in or near the Bhilai area (Madhya Pradesh); Tamil Nadu having apopulation of morethan one lakh have been provided with this facil- (b) if so, the details thereof; and ity.

(c) if ~t, whetherthe Coal Indict limited (c) There is a scheme to provide STD propose to ~et up a coal stock-yard there? facility to all District Headquarters by March 1990. THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. (d) Cuddalore is the only Distrid Head- quarter in Tamil Nadu which is y'et to be (b) Does not arise. provided with this facility. STD facility at this place would become feasible soon after the (c) elL have decided to open a stock- commissioning of an automatic ,Telephone yard at ~r in Madhya Pradesh which will exchange in 1989-90. As an interim meas- be very near to Bhilai area. Tenders have ure Manual Subscriber Trunk Dialling Serv- been invited for selection of handling agent ice has been provided at Cuddalore. 101 CHAITRA21. 1911 (SAKA) Written Ans... 102

Allotment of Petrol Retail outlet. In (a) the steps taken to improve the Andhr. Pradesh quality of Telecommunication services In Kamataka during the last three year; and 5607. SHRI MANIK REDDY: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (b) the details of the telecommunication GAS be pleased to state: services expanded in Kamataka during these years? (a) the number of petrol retail outlets in Andhra Pradesh at present; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ltIE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (b) whether Government propose to GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) To improve ppen some more petrol retail outlets in the the quality of telecom. services in Kama- State; taka, under Mission Better Communica- tions, following actions are being taken:- (c) if so, the steps taken in this regard so far; and 1. Monitoring of telacom. services which include: (d) if not, the reasons therefor? (i) Faults per 100 stations per THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE month. MINISTRY 0 PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) (ii) Can Success rate. There were 1153 Retail Outlets in Andhra Pradesh as on 31.3.1989; (iii) Effective percentage of trunk calls. (b) and (c). Yes, Sir; regular surveys are conducted by the oil industry and, keeping in (iv) Delivery of telegrams; and view the volume/distance norms for setting up of retail outlets upto the Annual Retail (v) Customer oriented training to Marketing Plan 1987-88, the oil industry has staff. plans to commission 68 more Retail Outlets in Andhra Pradesh; 2. To achieve improvement in tele- com. services, following activi- (d) Does not arise in view of (b) & (c) ties are taken: above. (i) Fault prone telephone instru- ments are replaced, and Improvement In Telecommunication Services In Karnataka (ii) Fault prone overhead lines and cables are replaced. 5608. SHAI SRIKANTHA DATTA NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Comparison of some items as being Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased monitored under Mission Better Communi- to state: cations for the last three years are as under: 103 Writ." Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written AnswetS 104

It.", March 87 March 88 March 89

1 2 3 4

Faults/100 StnsIP .M. telephone telex 18.8 14.5 11.1

-do - 32.9 20.3 14.8

Effective % age of trunk calls. 91.9 76.0 85.2

Call success rate (Local) 97.7 96.7 99.1

Call success rate (STD) 63.5 71.4 87.6

Now Karnataka Telecom. service is one ices expanded in Karnataka during the last of the best In the country. three years are as under: (b) Details of telecommunication serv-

Item 1986-87 1987-88 1988-89

1 2 3 4

Increase in capacity (in lines) 19365 12372 17908

Increase in DELs (Direct exchange lines) 18286 11153 " 15061

Increase in LDPTs. 113 79 183

Increase in No. of SAXs 147 49 129

Increase in No. of STD Stations. 4 6 6

S.T.D. Facility In Andhra Pradesh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt 5609. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH: Will the GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) 'The names of Minister of COMMUNICATIONS bepleased the places in Andhra Pradesh whiCh have to state: been provided with STD facility are given in the statement below. (a) the names of places in Andhra Pradesh where there is STD facility; (b) and (c). All the priority stations in (b) the places in Andhra Pradesh where Andhra Pradesh' have been provided with STD facility has not been provided so far; STD facility. Due to limitation of material and resources and funds there is no proposal at (c) the time by which SID facility will be present to provide SID facility for all ex- provided at th888 places? changes. 105 Written Answers CHAITRA 21 t 1911 (SAKA) Written Ans.1S 106 STATEMENT

Names of Places in Andhra Pradesh which have bHn provided with SrD facility

Adilabad Anantpur Ankapally

Gudiwada Guntur Kakinada

Khammam Machilipatnam Ongole

Palakole Patancheru Rajamundry

Secunderabad Tadepalligudem Srikakulam

Tirupathy-lirumalla Vizianagram Visakhapatnam- Renigunta Malkapuram- Mahaboobnagar Balacheruvu

Vijayawada-Pornki Ibrahim Kompalli-Warangal- Patinam Hanamkonda-Kazipet

Bhimavaram Armoor Prodattur

Cuddappah Adoni ChiJakaluripet

Chittoor Nellore Guntakal

Nandyal Tenali Srikalahasti

Karimnagar Kurnool Pamidi

Nandigama Lingampally Tanaku

Duggiralla Eleru Kovvur

Anaparthy Ramachandrapuram Samalkot

Tuni Nalgonda Sangareddy

Nizamabad Gudur Bobilli

KavaU ' RavuJapaJam Kothagudu

Doweleshwaram Pedapuram Vuyyuru Chirala Tadpatri Amudalavalasa Hindupur Meder-Natle Kovuru Bhadrachalam 107 Written Answet3 APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 108

[ Translation) in whose favour consent is given by the other beneficiar· TranaferlShlftlng of T•• phon .. ies.

5610. SHRI RAMASHRAY PRASAD (ii) In the absence of a Will: The SINGH: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- telephone may be transferred TIONS be pleased to state: to the widowlWidower of the deceased. In case of more (a) the rules and regulations for trans- than one widow, telephone ferringlShifting of telephones; may be transfefred to one of them by mutual consent. (b) the number of such cases pending with Government, State-wise; and In case the widowlWidower is not alive or does not wish to (c) the efforts being made to dispose of retain the telephone, the tele- these cases? phone may be transferred to one of the children residing at THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the station by mutual consent. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). A State- If there is no widowlWidower ment is given below. and there are also no children, the telephone may be trans- STATEMENT ferred to the legal successors, the telephone may be trans- The following rules and regulations apply ferred to one of them by mu- for transfer and shift of tel9phones: tual consent of all the succes- sors. (A) TRANSFER OF A TELEPHONE

(1) On the death of the subscriber (2) During the life-time of the hirer: During the life-time of the hirer, the The telephone provided under any transfer of telephone may be per- category shall be transferred as below: mitted to the near relatives, viz. father,mother, wife, husband, son (i) If th9 deceased has left a wl1l: or daughter, brother and sister If the property is bequeathed including step brother and step to one pe.rson the telephone sister, but not cousin, irrespective may be transferred to that of the category under which the person. If the property is be- connection was originally obtained queathed to more than one provided the period for which the person, the telephone may be connection has actually worked for transferred to that person the original hirer is not less than whose name is mentioned in one year and provided also that if the will for that specific pur- the telephone was sanctioned pose. If there is no such per- under any priority or special cate- son mentioned in the will, the gory, the original hirer shall not be telephone may be transferred given any new telephonEl connec- to anyone of the beneficiaries tion under that particular category 109 Written MswetS CHAfTRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnSW9IS 110

within five years of the date of allowed subject to the following transfer. conditions:

(3) 0" the change of the natJfe of the The employer should be a hifIJr: The transfer of telephone limited company, public or private, may be permitted where the name and of . a female subscriber has changed due to marriage or when (b) the employee should have an individual subscriber changes been in the employment of the his name in accordance with the employer for at, least five years procedure prescribed for the pur- prior to the date of the application pose. for transfer.

(6) General conditions governing all (4) Telephone of firm, company, or- transfers: If the transfer is necessi- ganisation, institution excluding tated by a certain event, the appli- Government Departments, Gov- cation for transfer must be made ernment Institutions, Public Under- within a period of one year from the takings and Autonomous Organ- occurance of such event. How- isations. ever, the competent authority will have discretionary power to decide (i) On the change of name and/or such cases in relaxation of the limit constitution: Transfer of tele- of one year in individual cases on phone may be permitted in the merit. event of change of name and/or constitution company due to (7) Third party transfer of telephones: statutory obligations or other- Telephones sanctioned under wise. hOYT-General' and' Non-OYT- General' categories only will be (ii) Sale or dissolution of a firm: If a permitted to be transferred third firm is sold to another party and parties. A non-refundable transfer the sale proceeds are not less fee of Rs. 500/- will be charged than Rs. 20,000.00, the tele- alongwith an amount equal to the phones may be transferred to amount of 'OYT' deposit at that the new firm. In the case of a station. The said connection from dissolution of a partnership firm, the date the transfer is effected. transfer may be allowed to any one of the partners after a agree- (b) Shift of telephones: ment is obtained from all part- ners of the d~ssolved firm. The telephone is eligible for shift in (1) (iii) Transfer a telephone from a the registration date of initial appli- priority concern to the personal cation for the telephone connec- name of the sole proprietor tion required to be shifted falls and vice versa may be allowed. within the release period of con- cerned category pertaining to the (5) Transfer of telephone from the exchange to which it is required to employer to the employee may be be shifted or (2) if the telephone 111 Written Answers APRil 11, 1989 wrliten Answers 112

has been working for at least three state: years. (a) the variation in the ax-fadory price 2. The request for transfer of tele- of Maruti 800 Standard since its entry into phone is effaded after the condi- market with the corresponding dates of vari- tions or the same are fulfilled. The ation; and request for shifting of telephone is effected after receipt of the applica- (b) the variation in the ex-factory price tion subject to technical feasibility of Ambassador aod Fiat Standard models and eligibility. No central consoli- during the same period? dated records are kept for pending cases and the requests are dis- posed of as they come. THE MINISlER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J.VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). The variation [English1 in the ex-factory price (inclusive of excise duty and dealer's commission) of Maruti 800 Price of Marutl 800 Standard Standard, Premier Pad mini (Standard) and Ambassador (Standard) Petrol over differ- 5611. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: ent points of time is given in the statement Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to below. WrlIIen Answe/S 114 ' 113 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA)

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(b) the names of countries which are - Tirumalla likely to be linked by STD facility with cities! towns in Andhra Pradesh by the end of - Ranigunta December. 1989; and Vijayawada (c) the amount earmarked for that pur- pose? -Poranki

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE -Ibrahim MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI -patinam GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) the cities of Andhra Pradesh listed in Statement I below have been linked through international sub- bhimavaram scriber dialling to the countries listed in Statement II below as on 28-2-89. Cuddappah

(b) It is not certain at this stage as to how Chittoor many more (X)untries will be linked by Inter- national Subscriber Dialling with the cities Nandyal and towns of Andhra Pradesh by December. 1989 as expansion of ISO facility depends Karimnagar on the technical compatibility of other coun- tries to work with India, the traffic require- Nandigama ments and availability of switching equip- ment. Countries are linked with the facility as and when the need for the same arises and Duggiralla the above conditions are fulfilled by the other administration. Anaparthy

(c) There is no exclusive allotment of Tuni funds for this purpose. STATEMENT-I Nizamabad

Nmes of Places in Andhra Prdesh which Kavali have been provided with STD facility

Adilabad Ooweleehwaram 119 Wriltsn Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Writtsn AnswSI'S 120

Chirala Gudur

Hindupur Ravulapalam

Bharachalam Redapuram

Anantpur Tadpatri

Guntur Meder-Metla

Machilipatnam Ankapally

Patancheru Kakinada

Tadepalligudem Ongole

Vizianagram Rajamundry

Mahaboobnagar Srikakulam

Kompalli Visakhapatnam

Warangal - Malakapuram

- Hanamkonda - Balacheruvu

-Kazipet Prodattur

Armoor Chilakaluripet

Adoni Guntakal

Nellere Tanaku

Ten ali Kowur

Kumool Sonalket

lingampalty Sangareddy

EluN Babilli

Ramachandrapuram kothagudum

Nalgonda Vuyyuru 121 ....Atu. • CHAJ1RA 21;, '1911 (&AKA) Written Ans .... 122 A-.Wr 'as. S.No. Countty

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20. Bermuda List «CCJCdIiiIs at laNe ,on ISO as on 282.88. 21. Bolivia S.No. Coumy 22. Botswana t 2 23. BraziJ 1. Abania

24. Brunei 2- Algeria 25. 3. Andorra Bulgaria

26. 4. Angola Burkina Fasso

27. Burma 5. Anjuilla

28. Burundi 6. Antigua

29. Cameroon 7. Algentina 30. 8. Aruba Canada 31. 9. Ascension Island Canary Islands

10. AastraIia 32. Cayman Islands

33. 11. Austria Central Africa Republic

34. Chad Republic 12. Azores

13. Bahenda 35. Chile 36. 14. Bahrain Christman Islands

15. Bangladesh 37. Colombia

18. Barbados 38. Congo People's Rep.

17. Belgium 39. Cook Islands 18. ... 40. Costa Rica 123" KtIlt." Answets APRIL 11.1989 Written Answers 124

s. No. Country S.No. Country

1 2 1 2

41. Cuba 63. Guadeloupa

42. Cyprus 64. Guam

43. Czechoslovakia 65. Guatemala

44. Denmark 66. Guyana

45. Djibouti 67. Haiti

46. Dominican Island 68. Honduras

47. Dominican Republic 69. Hongkong

48. Ecuador 70. Hungary

49. Egypt 71. Iceland

50. Ethiopia 72. Indonesia

51. Falkland Islands 73. Iran

52. Fiji 74. Iraq

53. Pinland 75. Ireland

54. France 76. Italy

55. Gabon 77. Ivory Coast

56. Gambia 78. Jamaica

57. Germany West FAG 79. Japan

58. Germany West FAG 80. Jordan

59. Ghana 81. Kenya

60. Gibrahar 82. Kiribati

83. Kuwait , 61. Greece

62. Grenada 84. Lebanon 125 Written AnSW8rs CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answe/$ 126

S.No. Country S.No. l'Ountry

1 2 1 2 85. Lesotho 108. Nepal

86. Liberia 109. Netherlands

87. Libya 110. Netherlands Antilles

88. Luxembourg 111. Newzealand

89. Maoao 112. Nicaragua

90. Madeira 113. Niger

91. Malagasy 114. Nigeria

92. Malawi 115. Norfolk Island

93. Malaysia 116. Norway

94. Maldives 117. Oman

95. Mali 118. Pakistan

96. Malta 119. Palau

97. Marshal Island 120. Panama

98. Martinique 121. Papua New Guinea

99. Mauritius 122. Paraguay

100. Mexico 123. Peru

101. Micronesia 124. Phillipines

102. Monaco 125. Poland

103. Montserrat 126. Portugal

104. Morocco 127. Puerto Rico

105. Mozambique 128. Qatar

106. Namibia 129. Romania

107. Nauru 130. Rwanda 127 .Wn1t8ri AnsINrs APRil 11. 1989 Written Answers .. 128

S.'No. ~ S.No. Country

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131. SamonaWest 153. Tanzania

132. San Marina 154. Thailand

133. Saudi Arabia 155. Tagolese Republic

134. St'negal 156. Tonga

. 135. SeycheUes 157. Trinidad and Tobago

136. Sierraleone 158. Tunisia

137. Singapore 159. Turkey

138. Solomon Islands 160. U.A.E.

139. Somalia 161. U.S.S.R.

140. South Korea 162. Uganda

141. Spain 163. United Kingdom

142. Srilanka 164. United States

143. SI. Christopher 165. Uruguay

144. SI. Lucia 166. Vanuatu (New Hebrides)

145. SI. Vincent 167. Vinezuela

146. Sudan 168. Virgin Is. (8)

147. Surinam 169. Yemen Arab Republic

148. Swaziland 170. Yugoslavia

149. Swaden 171. Zaire

150. Switzerland 172. Zambia

151 Syria 173. Zimbabwe

152. Taiwan 174. China 129 Wrlltsn AnSIWtS CHArTRA 21,1911 (SAKA)

S. No. Country Keral&, Andhra Pradesh, Tmal Nadu and Kamataka from Ramagundam Super Ther· 1 2 mal Power Project · during the last six months, month-wise; List of destiinations (separate Telecommunication entities) (b) whether the transmission line from Nagarjuna Sagar-Kadappa has been out of 175. Alaska order for the last several months; and

176. Hawaii (c) if so, the details thereof?

177. Vatican City THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ',l~ Allocation of Electricity from DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Ramagundam Super thermal TRY OFENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAJ): Power Project (a) The adual supply of power from the Ramagundam Super Thermal Power Sta- 5613. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will the tion to Kerala, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: and Karnataka during the period October. 1988 to March. 1989. month-wise, is ind .. (a) the quantity of electricity allocated to cated below:-

(Figures in MU)

Month Andhra Pradesh Karnataka Kerala Tamilnadu

October. 1988 49.5 55.8 34.8 131.3

November,1988 102.5 83.7 58.1 149.7

December, 1988 155.3 129.0 85.1 153.7

January, 1989 189.9 137.8 49.0 148.0

February, 1989 243.5 131.0 37.9 173.0

March.1989 226.1 161.1 61.0 197.7

(b) and (c). The 400 KV Nagarjunasa- PetroUdlesel Retail outlets in Etah gar-Cuddapah transmission line which District, U.P. tripped intermittently on account of overload has. however. not been out of order. The second circuit of the Nagarjunasagar- 5614. SHRIKAILASHYADAV: Witlthe Cuddapah transmission line was also Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL commissioned in March, 1989. GAS be pleased to state: 131 Written Answers APRIL 11,1989 Written Answers 132

(a) the policy of oil companies regard- em region which would be able to avail of the ing allotment of petrol/diesel retain outlets in energy thus generated; . a rural town in the reserved category; (c) whether there is a plan to further (b) whether petrol/diesel retain outlets increase the installed capacity of Ramagun- in Jaiesar (Etah District) have been allotted dam Project; and only to the reserved category; and (d) if so, the details thereof? (c) if so, the details in this regard and the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- THE MINiSTER OF STATE OF THE TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- (a) The second 500 MW unit at the Rama- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Oil gundam Super Thermal Power Project was companies develop low cost MS/HSD Re- test synchronised, ahead of schedule, in tain Outlets in rural areas in the vicinity of March, 1989. National Highways if the distance is 10 Kms. or more and in the vicinity of State Highways (b). The power generated at the Rama- if the distance is 5 Kms. or more, provided a gundam Super Thermal Power Project has minimum potential of 25 Kls. per mvnth been allocated between the States of during the second year of operation is avail- Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, able at the location. Categorisation of vari:' Kerala and Goa and the Union Territory of ous locations included in the Annual Market- Pondicherry . ing Plans of the oil industry (including those for SC/STs) is done based on a 100-point (c) and (d). Another 500 MW unit is roster evolved by the Oil Indllc;try on scheduled to be commissioned at the Rama- Statewise basis; gundam Super Thermal Power Project dur· ing 1990-91. (b) Oil companies have no proposal at present to set up a Retail Outlet at Jalesar in Supply of LPG in Murshidabad, West Etah district of Uttar Pradesh; Bengal

(c) Does not arise. 5616. SHRI ZAINAL ABEDIN: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL Increase in Installed capacity of GAS be pleased to state: Ramagundam Super Thermal Power Project (a) whetherthe supply of cooking gas in Murshidabad district. West Bengal is 5615. SHRI P.M. SAYEED: Will the adequate to meet the requirement of the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: consumers;

(a) whether the trial run of the second (b) if not, the remedial steps being unit of Ramagundam Super Thermal Power taken in this regard; Project of the National Thermal Power Cor- poration has been completed ahead of schedule; (c) the names of the agencies entrusted w~h the responsibil~y to supply LPG in the (b) if so, the additional areas in south- district; 133 Written AnswefS CHAIlRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answel'5 134

(d) whether it is proposed to aIbt men THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 1l-IE LPG agencies in·the district; and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (8) if so, the details thereof? TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) ~ntations have been received from THE MINISTER OF STATE OF TIE indigenous producers to disposable lighters MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NAllJ- that they are facing problems on price factor RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUlT): (a) Yes. due to the availability of these items of im- Sir; ported origin in the market. However, avail- able reports do not indicate any significant (b) Does not aris~ in view of (a) above; smuggling of disposable lighters into the :ountry. exceplthat a small quantity of such (c) The following LPG distributorships lighters are imported as passengers' bag- are operating in Murshidabad district; gage.

1. Mis. Shibani Gas Service. (b) and (c). The Anti-smuggling ma- Beharampur chinery of the Govt. check and detect the smuggling of contraband goods into the 2. MIs F.S.T.P.P. Employees country in various vulnerable areas. Further, Coop. Farakka periodical searches are carried out by their field formations at commercial establish- 3. MIs. Jangipur Gas Service, ments indulging in open display and sale of Jangipur smuggled goods including disposable light- ers. 4. MIs Puja Gas Service, Kandhi; Electricity Bills by D.E.S.U. In Deihl (d) and (e). Hindustan Petroleum Cor- poration has planned one LPG distributor- 5618. SHRIRAJKARANSINGH: Will ship at Beharampur in the 'open' category the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: under its 1987-88 Marketing Plan. (a) whether there is delay on the part of Smuggling of lighters DESU in furnishing electricity bills in new Government colonies in New Delhi; 5617. SHRI KADAMBUR JANARTHANAN: Will the Minister of IN- (b) the periodicity at which electricity DUSTRY be pleased to state: bills are supposed to be sent by DESU to the consumers in these oolonies; (a) whether the newly commissioned disposal lighter industries are finding hard to (c) whether the electricity bUIs are sent compete for their existence with smuggled by DESU after a ·per\'d ranging from six lighters on price factors; months to one year or more to the residents of Vasant Villar, R.K.Puram and other Gov- (b) if so, the steps taken by Government ernment colonies; to help the Indian disposal lighter industries (d) whether Government are also and thereby stop free smuggling of lighters; aware of the consequential financial hard- and ships faced by the residents since huge amounts are required to be paid at a short (c) if not, the reasons therefor? raice; and 135 Wn1ten Answers APRil 11, 1989 ....Aa ••• 136

Tt.eisnoproposal has to be preparitd and there were initial to increase the percentage equity share of problems in the computerisation of electric- Suzuki Motor Co.. in Maruti Udyog lid. from ity bills. the present level ~ 40%.

(b) Normally bills for two months con- (b) and (c). Do not arise. sumption are sent by DESU to the consum- ers including those of Government colonies. Resource Constraints in .... Major Power Projects (c) Bills for 416 months consumption were sent in the past to the consumers of 5620. SHRI HUSSAIN DAlWAI: Wi) Government colonies and other areas serv- the Minister of ENERGY be Pleased 10 stale: iced through R.K. Puram District of DESU because of changing of manual billing to (a) whether some new major p.lIIf8r computer billing. The work of billing in R.K. projects are facing severe rasource ~ Puram District is expected to be normal by straints; July, 1989. (b) whether the present rascal siluation (d) According to DESU the COi'lsumers is adequate to finance the existing power have the facility to deposit the amount of the projects in hand viz Fourth stage of Koyna bills of more than 2 months consumption in hydro-electric project, Khaparkheda thermal instalments. project and Dabhol thermal projed;

(e) The work of electricity billing is in the (c) iI nat. the reasons therefoJ; and process of being streamlined through pro- gressive computerisation of bills, for which (d) the steps taken to improve the in-house computer has been commissioned efficiency of the power projects? by DESU in December, 1987. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Increased equity for Suzuki In DEPARlUENTOFPOWERINTHEMlN1S- Marutl Project TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI): (a) Yes. Sir. 561'9. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to (b) and (c). The fund requirement of state: Khapetkheda (S1age-1) Thermal project (2x210 MW) is being met by the Stale GoY- (a) whether Govemment are consider- emment 1hrough their Stale Plan as also ing a proposal for increased equity for the from financialinstiIuIions.. The S1age-Iotthe 137 CHAlTRA21. 1911 (&AKA) piOject. which was sandioned by the Plan- menI of newsprint in the country; ning Commission in June. 1988, has not so far been taken up for implementation by the (b) the quantity of newsprint imported State Government due to resource 000- annually to meet the demand; straints. The Koyna Hydro-electric Project (Stage-IV) has been posed for assistance (c) the ralesof indigenous and imported from the World Bank. The Dabhol Thermal newsprint per loone; and Project has not been sanctioned so far. (d) when the country is likely to become (d) For improving the efficiency of exist- self-sufficient in newsprint and the steps ing installed capacity. renovation & moder- taken for it and to improve the quantity? nisation of some of the existing thermal and hydro power stations has beenflS being THE MINJ~TER OF PARLIAMEN- undertaken. Reduction in transmission & TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- distribution losses, efficient load manage- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING ment and energy conservation are some of (SHRI H.KL BHAGAT): (a) The annual the other measures which woutd improve production and requirement of newsprint in the availability of power. the country vary from year to year. The indigenous production in 1987-88 was 2.87 Production Requirement and lakh metric tonnes as against the estimated Import of Newsprint requirement of 5.09 lakh metric tonn-es.

5621. SHRI S.G. GHOLAP: (b) The quantity of newsprint imported SHRI MOHANBHAI PATEL: in 1987-88 was 2,43,968 metric tonnes.

Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: (c) The ex-mill price of indigenous newsprint as applicable from 27.. 1.88 is as (a) the .~nnual production and require- follows:-

Rs. Per tonne

i) National Newsprint & Paper Mills, Nepanagar. M.P. (Nepa Mills) 8,560 (52 gsm)

ii) Mysore Paper Mills Ltd., ladravati, Kamataka. 10,160 (49 gsm)

iii) Hindustan Newsprint Ud., Newsprint Nagar, Kerala 10,160 (49 gsm)

iv) Tamilnadu Newsprint and Paper Ltd., Pugalur. Tamilnadu 10,893 (49 gsm)

v) Rayalaseema Paper Mills, Adeni, A.P. 9.390 (49 gsm) 139 Written Answers APRil 11 ,1989 Written Answers 140

Th6 prices of imported newsprint (excluding customs duty) as on 1.4.1989 were as undM:-

(Rs. per tonne)

High Seas saIB Buffsr

Std. other than Bangladesh 12,715/- 12,765/-

Std. from Bangladesh 11,910/· 11,960/-

GLAZED 12,610;· 12,660/-

Super calender (Canada). 12,010/- 12,060/-

d) In addition to the existing annual (c) the villages which are likely to be capacity of 31akh tonnes for manufacture of electrified during the remaining period of the newsprint in the country, an addi!ional ca- Seventh Plan, State-wise? pacity of 4.50 lakh tonnes has been ap- proved by Government by way of industrial THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Licenceslletters of Intent. These are under DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- various stages of implementation. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI): (a) and (b). As against the target of electri- The characteristics of indigenous fication of 1,18,101 villages fixed by the newsprint are by and large comparable with Planning Commission for the Seventh Plan that of imported newsprint. All the indige- (1.4.85 to 31.3.90), 79,935 villages are re- nous newsprint mills have R&D facilities ported to have been electrified from 1.4.85 to laying special emphasis on pulping and 29.2.89. There is likely to be a marginal newsprint manufacture. shortfall in achieving the target set for the Seventh Plan in some of the states. The Rural Electrification reasons for slow progress are attributed to natural calamities, inadequacy of sub-sub- 5622. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- mission facilities, lack of demand from the WARI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be consumers due to general backwardness, pleased to state: difficult hilly terrain, etc.

(a) whether the target set for the rural electrification during the Seventh Plan has (c) A Statement indicating the state- been achieved; wise numb~rofvillages likely to be electrified during the remaining period of Seventh Plan (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and Le. 1.3.1989 to 31.3.1990 is given below. STATEMENT

Sfatew;se No. of villages to be electrified during the remaining period of the Seventh Plan.

51. No. States Villages likely to be electrified during the remaining period of tha Sevanth Plan.

1. Andhra Pradesh 619 2. Arunachal Pradesh 143 141 Writt." Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answsrs 142

SI.No. Stat9S Villages likely to be 819Ctrifi9d during the remaining period of th8 Seventh Plan.

3. Assam 2000

4. Bihar 2700

5. Goa Nil

6. Gujarat Nil

7. Haryana Nil

8. Himachal Pradesh Nil

9. Jammu & Kashmir Nil

10. Karnataka 78

11. Kerala Nil

12. Madhya Pradesh 3000

13. Maharashtra 150

14. Manipur 250

15. MeghaJaya 230

16. Mizoram 75

17. Nagalano 40

18. Orissa 919

19. Punjab Nil

20. Rajasthan 1010

21. Sikkim 38

22. Tamil Nadu 20 143 wttt.,. Answets APRIL 11, 1989 Wrilten Answers 144

5/. NO. States ViBages IlelY to be el8CtrifiBd during the remaining piHiod of the Seventh Plan.

23. Tripura 190

24. Uttar Pradesh 2820

25. West Bengal 2000

Total (States) 16432

Total (U.Ts) 36

Total (All-India) 16468

Indo-USSR Economic Cooperation Public can Offices with sro facility at Sangalore Airport

5623. SHAI BHADRESWAR TANTI: 5624. SHRt V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be state: pleased to state:

(a) whether public Call Offices with (a) whether India and USSR propose to S.T.D. facility are available at 8angalore set up a working group to develop new forms Airport for the use of passengers; and of economic cooperation between the enter- prises of two countries; and (b) if not, the steps taken to provide such facility at Bangalore Airport? (b) if so, the salient features thereof? THE MINISTER OF ST~ TE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI DEPARTMENT O~ INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b) Does not arise. (b). Yes, Sir. The Inter-Governmentallndo- Soviet Commission on Economic, Scientific [ Translation] and Technical Cooperation at its 12th meet- ing held in New Delhi from 7-9 March, 1989 Industries established by NRI has, inter-alia, decided to set up within its framework a separate Working Group so as 5625. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: Will to facilitate and promote development of the Minister of Industry be pleased to state new forms of cooperation such as produc- the number of non-resident Indians who tion cooperation, joint ventures and direct have established industries in India during links between the Indian enterprises and 1988 and 1989 so far and the total invest- Soviet enterprises. ment made therein? 145 Wnlten Answws CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written A,s.... 146

THE MINSTER OF STATE IN THE Backward Area. Development DEPAATMENT OF INDUSTRIAl DEVEL- Committee for Industrial Sector OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHAI M. ARUNACHALAM): Since 5627. SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MO- setting up of the Special Approval Commit- HANTY: Wdl the Minister of INDUSTRY be tee (NRI) in Nov., 1983 and upto Dec., 1988, pleased to state: 214 letters of intentlSlA Aagns. were given to the non-rfisident Indians to set up indus- (a) whether the B~ard Areas Devel- tries in India. According to available informa- opment Committee constituted by Govern- tion, 24 units out of these have gone into ment for all round industrial development produdion so far. The project cost of these has submitted its report; 24 units, at the time of according approval, was envisaged at Rs. 140.15 crores and NRI (b) if so. the recommendations made by investment therein was estimated at As. the Committee; and 16.96 crore. (c) whether Government have ac- [English] cepted those recommendations, if so, the details in this regard? T.V. Transmitters Installed In Island. of Andaman and Nicobar and La- THE MINISTER OF STATE 'IN THE k.hadw.. p etc. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- 5626. SHRI V. KRISHNA RAO: Will the TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- The Inter-Ministerial Committee constituted CASTING be pleased to state: to review and revise the existing Central incentive schemes for industrial develop- (a) whether the small pockets of popu- ment of backward areas had submitted·its lation Hving in the remote islands of An- report. The recommendations of the daman and Nicobar and lakshadweep Committee are still under the consideration archipelagos are ~e to watch television of the Government. programmes; and AvallabliHy of Coal In Andhr. Pradesh (b) if so, how many transmitters have been installed in these islands? 5628. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- state: TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (a) the quantity of coal available in (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAn: (a) and (b). Andhra Pradesh; Through a network of eight TV transmitters operating in Andaman & Nicobar Islands (b) whether it is sufficient to meet the and nine in lakshadweep Islands, the TV requirements of the State incfuding the service is available to about 99% and 97.5% demand of the Andhra Pradesh State Elec- of population respectively in these two tricity Board for generation of thermal power; Groups of Islands. h .is also envisage

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHAI [ Translation] VASANTSATHE): (a) The coal reserves in Andhra Pradesh are estimated at 10,086 Safety Match Industry million tonnes by the Geological Survey of India. Of this the proved reserves is esti- 5630. SHRt BALWANT SINGH RA- mated at 4597 million tonnes only. Coal MOOWALlA: produdion during the year 1988-89 in Sin- SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: gareni Collieries Company, which operates the coal mines in A.P., was 18.60 million Will the Minister of Industry be pleased tennes. to state:

(b) and (c). Coal produced in SCCL (a) whether the attention of Govern- mines is required to meet the demand of the ment has been drawn to the news item entire southern part of the country including captioned "Cottage Units" fears over Andhra Pradesh. The gap between the Wimco's steps" appearing in the Financial demand and availability is partly covered by Express dated 10 March, 1989; supplies rom Cil sources. (b) if so. whether as a result of policy Telecommunication System in regarding match industry announced in the Shahjahanr.;ur District (U.P.) Budget recently-. the entrepreneurs in the cottage sector and facing serious crisis in 5629. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: running their industries; Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) whether big industries engaged in manufacture of safety matches have been (a) whether the telecommunication given more facilities than the small and cot- system in ShahJahanpur district is in a very tage sector units; deplorable condition; (d) whether these small entrepreneurs (b) whether the subscribers have re- have apprised Union Government about the quested for installation of an electronic ex- crisis being faced by them; and change in Shahjahanpur city; and (e) if so, the steps proposed to be taken (c) if so, the action taken thereon? by Government to protect the interests of the small scale and cottage sector units? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE GIRIDUAR GOMANGO): (a) The tele- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- phone system in Shahjahanpur Distric.1 is OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- generally satisfactory. TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. However, at pres- ent there no proposal for installation of an (b} and (c). The excise duty on matches eledronic EJXehange at Shahjahanpur. The produced in different sedors have been existing MAX II type exchange is however, reduced. While m..:king the changes in duty proposed to be replaced by 2000 lines I.e.p. structure, the interest of various sectors (Indian X-bar Project.) type exchange during have ~en kept in view. In terms of percent- the eighth Plan. ages. the reduction is 31.25. 28.57 and 149 Written AnswetS CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 150

23.07 for cottage sector, handmade small THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE scale sector and mechanical sector respec- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- tively. OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a}The (d). Yes, Sir. Details of district-wise break up of KVI units set up in Andhra Pradesh as on 31.3.1988 (e) Does not arise in view of (b) and (c) are given in the statement below. above. (b) As per the tentative programme [English] drawn up by KVIC 20 NMC units under Khadi and 9467 units under village industries and Units of KVle In Andhra Pradesh 31 NMC units under Khadi and 8777 units under village industries are proposed to be 5631. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the set up during 1988-89 and 1989-90 respec- Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: tively. The location of the units to be set up are decided by the implementing agencies (a) the details of the units of Khadi and mainly State KVI Boards and KVI institutions Village industries set up in Andhra Pradesh depending upon potentialities and other as on 31 December, 1988, district-wise; local factors such as availability of raw-ma- terials, local talents, water, power supply, (b) the details of such units proposed to transport and marketing etc. be set up in that State during 1989 and 1990, (c) Khadi units will help in promoting districtwise; and traditional art of Andhra Fine Khadi and Village Industries Units will promote tradi- (c) how far the traditional handicrafts of tional handicrafts such as fancy fibre articles Andhra Pradesh will be promoted by these and palm products for which Andhra units? Pradesh is well-known.

STATEMENT

DBtai/s of disilict-wise number of KV/ units set up as on 31.3, 1988 in Andhra Pradesh

Number of Units

S.No. Name of the District Khadi V.I.

1 2 3 4

1. East Godavari 73 5096

2. Guntur 45·· 6081

3. Kumool 104 693

4. Anantapur 46 901

5. Srikakulam 33 5330

6. Mehboob Nagar 9 1170 151 Witten Answens APRIL 11. 1989 Mtten AnsW8f'S 152

1 2 3 4

7. Nellore 13 1n1

8. Krishna 7320

9. Chittoor 6 994

10. Karim Nagar 39 1094

11. Hyderabad 61 1313

12. Vishakhapatnam 1 6872

13. Prakasam 2 2437

14. West Godavari 6509

15. Cuddappa 2 998

16. Adilabad 4734

17. Khammam 1027

18. Warangal 1320

19. Medhak 6IT

20. Nalgonda 1216

21. Vaijag 582

22. RangaReddi 978

23. Vijay Nagaram 714

24. Nizamabad 579

Districtwise breakup not available 40 23797

474 84207

Banning of Pan Masala and Pan Zarda (a) whether the Consumer Group has Advertisements on T.V/AJ.R. requested government for imposir.g ban on 5632. DR. G. VUAYA RAMA RAO: Will advertisements of various Pan Masala and the Minister of INFORMATION AND Pan Zarda preparations on T. V.lAIR and the BROADCASTING be pleased to state: print media; 153 .....A.UL. awTRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written Ans.,. 154

", 1-...... 1Mraof; and (a)to(c). DUring the December, 1988to February, 1989. Kerala was supplied 172 (c) ...... of million units which was less than the entitle- the ..... aIIIing ingnIdiarllS in these ment bec8use of outages at Kalpakkam and pi...... ? Neyveli-II and the availability of only one 400 KV circuit between Nagarjunasagar and lIE ...sTER OF PARLIAMEN- Cuddapah. The Second 400 KV circuit be- TARY AFFAIB AND ...asTER OF IN- tween Nagarjunasagar and Cuddapah was FORMATION AND BROADCASTING commissioned in March. 1989. (SHRIHKL mMGA1): (a) 10 (c). A few c:ustoma' GIaups'"" raquestad the Gov- Recommendation. of the Chari emmanI tar irIIposilig a ban on .tvartising Committee various Pan DC 'I and Pan ZaRIa prepa- raIions1hmugh1he media.. TheGovemment 5634. DRA.K. PATEL: Willth&Minis- mnsuIad .. Indian Council 01 Medical ter of ENERGY be pleased to refer to the RB 18. dt which is aftha opinion thai unless reply given on 2 August. 1988 to Unstarred anIuIr calli" apidemioIagical studies Que~n No. 989 regarding Chari Report ..dona" I is adJwnaIr dllicul to establish and state: concIusiNIy the cadt..-aic effects of 1hese poduds. Ca> when the report of the Chari Committee about 'Issues in Coal' was sub- mitted to the Advisory Board on energy;

5633.. SIR SURESH KURUP: Cb) the details of the recommendations SIR T. BASHEER: accepted by Government and action taken thereon; and \ViI the IIinisIer of ENERGY be pleased to SIaIa: (c) the recommendations whi~ h~ve been rejected and the reasons therefor? . (a) ...1DtaI quantity of power alocated

10 KaraIa flam the Ramagundam Super " n.maI PoMw Pra;act; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI VASANT SATHE): (a) Chari Committee (b) ...... KaraIa was not given its submitted its report 'ISSUES IN COAl'tothe aIaIJad quota at ..... from December. Advisory Board on Energy, in February 1"'1D Febnar. 1989; and 1988.

(c) I SO. "''18.D11S ..afar? (b) and Cc). As per procedure pre- saIJed, Advisory Board on Energy consid- lIE ...ISIER OF STAle IN THE ered the report and submitted its recommen- DEPARTIENTOFPOWER ..THE MINIS- dations to the Speciat Committee of Secre- TRYOF BERGY (SIft KAl.PNAlH RAI): taries. The recOmmendations/observations (a) ...... 1Ia e d'asharaof245 made bv the special committee of Secretar- IIWfan...... CIII*:IY of2100MW ies have been received in September. 19881 of the AImIIgundaIII a.-...... Power January, 1989 and they 8 .. under consid- ~ eratbn. 155 Written Answ9l'S APRIL 11, 1989 Wnlten Answers 156

Conversion of Railway Bridge for laying J. VENGAL RAO): (a> Major units which are Ga. pipeline In Rajamundry at present, manufacturing one or more Synthetic Filament Yarn viz. Polyester, Ny- 5635. SHRI SRIHARI RAO: Will the lon and Polypropylene Fila""ent Yams are Minister of PETROlEUM AND NATURAL given in the statement below. GAS be pleased to state: (b) No. Sir. Only a smaD quantity of (a) wnetner there is a proposal for Filament Yarn is at present, imported. conversion of old railway bridge at Rajamun- dry for laying gas pipeline from West Godav- STATEMENT ari of East Godavari for connecting indus- tries; 1. Mis Baroda Rayon Corporation Limited. (b) if so, the details thereof; and 2. MIs Century Enka Umited (c) if not, the reasons therefor 3. Mis Garware Nyions limited THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NA TU- 4. Mis Gujarat Filament Limited. RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMADUTT): (a) No. sir. 5. MIs Haryana Petrochemicals lim- ited (b) Does not arise. 6. MIs Hindustan pipe Udyog Limited (c) ONGC have laid a pipeline from Narsapur to Kovvur on the Western side of 7. MIs Indian Organic Chemicals lim- river Godavari for supply of gas to some ited consumers. As there is no spare capacity in the pipeline, at present there is no proposal 8. MIs Jagatjit Cotton Textile Mills to bring gas from Kowur side to Rajamundry Limited side which is on the Eastern bank of river Godavari. 9. Mis J.K. Synthetics Limited

Filament Yarn Manufacturing Units 10. MIs Modipon Limited

5636. SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA: Will 11. Mis Nirlon Synthetics Fibres & the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Chemicals Ud. state: 12. Mis Orkay Silk MiUs Limited (a) the details of industries in public and private sectors manliacturing Filament 13. Mis Parasrampuria Synthetics ltd. Yarn; and 14. Mis Petrofils Cooperative Umited

(b) whether large quantity of filament 15. MIs Rajasthan Petrop Synthetics yearn is being imported to meet the increas- Ltd. ingdemand? 16. MIs Reliance Industries Ltd.

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI 17. Mis Shree Synthetics ltd. awTRA 21. 1911 (SM,'A)

. AI ...... -=epI . MeA CoaperaIive UnIad ....isinGDwnIflMntCooperalive Sedor.. ... in ...... THE ..ISlER ' OF' STATE OF ]1:1: MINISTRY OF PEl'ROI..EUI1. AND, ~ , tiAru-." ·· c.nInII.r.r-.'"for Power RAJ.. GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUT1): (a) ..No . s.ctor Sir.

5637. SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: (b) Does nat arise WIt the Minister 01 ENERGY be pleased m stale: (c). The q.... llon of drIIng in the 1oca- tion RaJa-I" be taken up altar .s all (a) the Central Plan oudaytorthe power mant of coastal areas of Kutch Saurashtra sector for 1989-90; by seismic survars as wei .. br ...... telluric SUIY8p baing COl.... in enIand (b) whether it wII be more or less than SaurashIra. Me outlay for 1988-89; and [TtanSIafbJ) (c) the estimated raqui'emenl of power dwing 1989-90 and how far the planned And..., DIlls of 8HEI.,.BhopaI outlay is IMIy to meet the requi:'ament? 5639. SHRI K.N. PRADHAN: WI! the llIE MlNlSlER OF STAlE IN mE Minister of INDUSlRY be pleased to stat.: DEPARTMENTOFPOWER IN llIE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (a) whether the Sharar·Heavy EIacIri- (a) to (c). The proposed ouday for Central caIs Lmited. Bhopal has any anciIary'" Sedor schemes of the [}epartritent of Power trial una; for the Annual Plan 1989-90 is As.. 3948 crnres which is 30.25% more than the ap- (b) if so. the number 01 such una ;n:t proved awlay for the financial year 1988-89. when these una were sat up; • is i(eIy m meal the requirements of the power programme envisaged for the year (c) whether McdIya Pradesh G0vern- 1989-90. ment had requested for permission to sal..., some new ancIIary induslrial unb cbing Drlling In RaJml DIstrict, Gujarat the I'8CCri yems; and

5638. SHRMAn PATEL RAMA8EN: (d) • so. the action takan theIeon? RAllJIBHAI MAVAN.: 11fE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Will the Minister of PETROlEUM AND J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. NATURAL GAS be pleased" stale: (b) Thar8 .. 48 anciIary units wNch (a) whether 01 ...digging was started ware sal up 0VfJI a period .. 1974. near .. Atkot in the Jasdan taIuka in R$Jt disIrid 01 GujaraI. (c) and (d). S ...."lIat. have been made thai ...., ...... be giNn 10 the CM(II' 200 ..... ~ unIs aI8o. 'BIB.'_ (b) lao. the ..._ m.te and the examined ...... and ...illonned .. cUcome 1hereaI; ... . Stale ..... AnciIary InduIIbtaa ....Iap- APRIL 11, 1989 ·. rnent Com",-"1t18i procurement of com- (b) 'No, SI,r. ponentS. matan.as.are being made from the small.:al. unite:8Iio and facilities almost (c) P.rts Of Chambal OiviSl~ receive similar to those giv~" to ancHlary units are TV sef'\liQ, ItOm the high power TV transmit- being given to the SSI units. ter at Agra. The high power (10 KW) TV transmitter under implementation at Gwalior .. ~ T~V. Relay Centre In Chambal Division, , is also expeqted to provide service to parts . ' . M.P. of Chambal. Division. Further improvement of TV service in Chambal Division would 5640. SHRI; KAMMODILAL JATAV: depend·upon availability of resources under Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND future plans of TV expansion. BROADCASTING be pleased to state: [English] (a) the names of the divisions in Madhya Pradesh where T.V. relay centres expanSion of Telephones Exchange at have been set up since 1980 till date; Edathua, Kerala

(b) whether Chambal Division is one 5641. SHRI VAKKOM PU- amongst them; and RUSHOTHAMAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) if not, the reasons therefor and when a T.V~ relay ~ win be set up there? (a) whether there is a proposal to ex- pand the telephone exchange at Edathua in THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- Alleppey, Karala during 1989-90; TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (b) if so, the details thereof; and (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) TVtransmitters have been set up in the following nine divi- (c) the type of equipment proposed to sions of Madhya Pradesh out a total of be installed and the number of additional twelve divisions in the State, since 1980;- lines to be made available?

1. Baster THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI 2. Bhopal GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir.

3. Bilaspur (b) and (c). The capacity of the existing MAX-II strowger type of exchange is pro- 4. Gwalior posed to be expanded by 200 lines from 209- 400 lines during 1989-90, subject to availa- 5. Indore bility of equipment.

6. Jabalpur [ Translation] Increa.. In Capacity of Pithoragarh 7. Rewa Telephone Exchange

8. Sagar 5642. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Willthe Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased 9. Ujjain to state: 161 Willten An$wers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA)

(a) whether the Pithoragarh telephone THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lHE exchange has no capacity to give additional DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- . telephone connection; TRY OF ENE~Y (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (a) and (b). A scheme has recently been (b) the number of persons on the wait- received from the Uttar Pradesh State EJeo. ing list for new telephone connections there; tricity Board en.visaging the following works:-

(c) whether the capacity of this ex- change is proposed to be raised; and i) 132133 KV Power Transformer 20 MVA -1 no. (d) is so, by what time? ii) . 33/11 KV Power Transformer 3 MVA THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE _·2 nos. MINrSTRY OF COMMUNICATION (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. iii) 132 KV line - 58.14 Kms.

(b) The number of persons on the iv) 33 KV line • 49 kms. waiting list as on 31.3.1989 is twenty four. v) Additional 132 Bay at SuJtanpur - 1 (c) and (d). Yes. Sir. h is proposed to No. expand .the existing electronic exchange capacity from 400 lines to 00 lines during (c) The project cost proposed by Uttar 1989-90. The proposed commissioning, Pradesh State Electricity Board is Rs. 487.1 however, depends on the availability of lakh. equipment. (d) The construction work will com- Setting up of Power Sub-Station In mence as soon as necessary formalities are Falzabad, U.P. completed, The estimated duration of the project is 3 years, 5643. SHRI NIRMAL KHATTRI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (e) Capacity of 132133 KVA sUb-station proposed by Uttar Pradesh State Electricity (a) whether the rural Electrification Board is 20 MVA at Milkipur (Kumarganj). Corporation has received any proposal to set up a power sub-station in Faizabad dis- [English] trict of Uttar Pradesh; Setting up of Petrochemical Complex at eochln (b) if so, the details thereof and the decision taken by Government thereon; 5644. PROF. K.V. THOMAS: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (c) the expenditure likely to be incurred thereon; (a) whether there is any proposal to set up a petrochemical complex at Cochin, and (d) when the construction work will be taken up and completed; and (b) if so, the details thereof?

(e) the capacity of this sub-station? THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI 163 APRIL 11,1989

J. ~RAO): (a) em (b). An industrial (e) whIIhardueweighlagewlibegiven Ucance for IIUnIIKtwe of 87.200 lPA of 10 Scheduled Trhs candidates in 1hese Benzene and a Latter of Intert tor manufac.. trbaI dominated areas? tuI8 of 12.000 lPA of Toluene has been IPfII8d 10 Cochin Refineries Ud on THE MINISTER OF STATE OF llfE 29.11.1988 and 31.7.1987 respectively. MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTl): (a) and Telex ted.... In Farrukhabad (b). There are noLPGdistribulorsh~of any oil company at JhaIed. Santrampur. 8aria 5645. SHRI KHURSHID AI..AM KHAN: and Lirnkheda in Gujarat as none of these Wi! the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be locations justifies opening of an economi- pleased to state: cally viable . LPG distrbuaorship there at present; (a) whether there is a long-standing demand for Telex facilities in Farrukhabad (c) No. Sir, city; and (d) Does not arise in view of (c) above; (b) if so. the Une by which iI is proposed 10 provide the Talex faciities in thai city? (e) Yes. Sir; Since an the four locations fall under reserved Parliamentary constitu- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ency they would be placed under 'ST cate- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI gory as and when these locations are fea- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No firm de- sOle and included in the Marketing Plans of mand has been received for providing telex the'oil industry. facility in FaJ"rlJdlabad. ( Translation) (b) A notional telex exchange can be planned sWject to the minimum demand for Setting up of Ethylene Gas Cracker alleasl four T alex mnnections is registered. Plant in Guna District of Madhya Pradesh LPG DIstributorships In Tribal Areas, GuJarat 5647. SHRIMAHENDRASINGH: Wtll the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to 5646. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will state: 1he Minister 01 PETROlEUM AND NATU- RAl GAS be pleased 0 state: (a) whether the ~adhya Pradesh In- dustrial Development Corporation has ap- (a) whelher there are LPG distributor- plied for a letter of intentJindustriai flCenc8 to ships at JhaIed. Santrampur. Baria and set upan ethylene gas aadterplant in Guna l..inkheda in Gujaral; district. Madhya Pradesh, and

(b) I not. the reasons therefor; (b) if so, the time by which a decision is hly 10 be taken in this regard? (c) whether Government have any plans to award LPG distrbJlorship at these llIE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI places; J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes. Sir.

(d) if so. when; and (b) Decision on Sldl applications is 185 Wn1tM Answers CHArrRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 166

taken based on technoeconomicconsidera- alongwith the names and other details of tiona. these places;

New Public can OffIce. and Telephone Exchanges In Vldlsha, Ratsan~ Sihor. (b) whether the target has been Districts, M.P. achieved; and

5648. SHRI PRATAP BHANU (c) if not, the reasons thereof? SHARMA: Will the Minister of COMMUNI- CATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (a) the target for opening of new Public GIAIDHAA GOMANGO): (a) The target for Call Offices and telephone exchange in the opening of new public call offices and tele- rural areas of Vidisha, Raisen and Sihore phone exchanges during 1988-89 in the districts of Madhya Pradesh during 1988-89 three districts is given below:

Distrid TargetLDPT Name of the Vii/age Exchange target Name of village

Vidisha i) Pipaldhar Nil

Raisen 6 i) KhaparKheda i) Bamhori

ii) Sirsoda

iii) Bhondia

iv) Panjra

v) Tulsipar

vi) Dijhawan

Sihore 3 i) Khaikhera 2 i) Kurwar

ii) Bamuliyabhati ii) Bagar

iii) Jamuniya Fatehpur

(b) Target for 1988-89 as given in (a) lEUM AND NATURAL GAS be. pleased to above has been achieved. state:

(c) Does not arise. (a) the import bill of crude oil and petroleum products for 1987 and 1988 and Import Bill of Crude 011 and Petroleum the estimate for 1989; Products

5649. SHAI AANJIT SINGH (b) . the export of the finished petroleum GAEKWAD: Will the Minister of PETRO- products during these years; 167 APRil 11.'1989 ....Atu » 1. (c) whether the t~e deficit of petro- MINISTRY OF PE I tIJlBJII AIm tlAlU- leum products has been on the increase RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHIIA DUT1): (It) ... during these years; and (b): The inport Plan tar impod at aude 01 and peIrOIaum peoducIs is ~ on ... (d) if so, the steps proposed to be taken nandaI y.. basis. The .... at impod aI to export the petroleum products and reduce crude oil and impodIaxpaIt at paIrOIewn trade deficit? products cbing 1987-88 ... 1988-89 is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE incflCalad babw:

Import 1987-88 (Provisional)

Crude OillPetroleum Products 4038

Export

Petroleum Products 649

The import bill for the year 1989-90 has (SHRI H.K.L BHAGAT): (a) Thera is. at not yet been finalised. present. no approved scheme under the Seventh Plan to sat up a lV transmitar at (c) and (d). The decrease in the export Amalapuram in East Godavari distrid of of petroleum products has been due to in- Andhra Pradesh. crease in domestic consumption; only quan- tities surplus after meeting indigenous re- (b) Parts of East Godavari cflSlrict 01 quirements are considered for exports. Andhra Pradesh receive TV servicafrontthe high power (10 KW) TVtransmilterai V"1JaYa- T.V. Relay Centre at Amala!)uram, wada and the two lower power transmitters A.P. functioning at Kakinada and Rajamundry. Extension of TV service to the reJnaining 5650. SHAI A.J.V.B. MAHESWARA unmvered parts of the audry including RAO: Will the Minister of INFORMATION those in Amalapuram can be CdRi".d out in a AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: phased manner depending upon the future availability 01 funds for this purpose. (a) whether there is any proposal to set up a T. V. Relay Centre at Amalapuram in (TransIatkNJI A.P.; and LPG Facilty In Bihar (b) if so. when and if not. the reasons therefor? 5651. SHRI KUNWAR RAM: Will the Minister 01 PETROLEUM AND NAlURAl.. THE MINISTER OF PARlIAMEN- GAS be pleased to stale: TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (a) thenumberolclies in Bilarwhere CHAITRA 21, 1911 (&AKA) WnIten Answe,. 170 cooking gas facility has been provided so far; and and (c) the business procured by the Indian. (b) the time by which this facility will be film industry as a result of the Twelfth Inter- provided to the remaining cities in Bihar? national Film Festival of India?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- TARY AFFAIRS AND ' MINISTER OF IN- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUIT): (a) FORMATION AND BROADCASTING Presently 65 towns/cities have been pro- (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) The best of vided with cooking gas facility in Bihar State;. Indian cinema is selected annually under the Panorama Scheme and shown in Interna- (b) The oil companies are currently tional Film Fest ivalslFil motsavas. During extending LPG facility to towns with a popu- 12th IFFI. Indian Panorama '89 films were lation of 20,000 and above (as per 1981 screened. The best of the Indian cinema is Census) and which offer adequate potential comparable to the best produced anywhere to make it economically viable. Upto the in the world. Annual LPG Marketing Plan 1988-89, the oil companies have plans to set up LPG dis- (b) Indian Panorama Section was well tributorships in 12 more citiesltowns of Bihar received, by and large. State. (c) As. 23.00 lakh exports are antici· As various steps precede the actual pated on (he basis of agreement finalised. In commissioning of a distributorship, it is not addition some more business may result on possible to indicate the exact time by which the basis of contacts established. the distributorships will be commissioned in those citiesltowns. Supply of Cooking Gas through Pipeline [English] 5653. SHRIMATIJAYANTI PATNAIK: Business Procured In 12th International Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Film Festival NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

5652. SHRI VIJAY N. PATll: Will the (a) whether Government have any Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- proposal for supplying cooking gas through CASTING be pleased to state: pipelines

(a) whether the 12th International Film (b) if so, the name of the cities where Festival of India has succeeded in projecting steps are being initiated in that direction; and Indian films of the highest standard and comparable to foreign films in all respects; (c) the details of the programme of Government in this regard, (b) if so. the opinion expressed by foreign film experts regarding In(jian films; THE MiNiSTER OF STATE OF THE 171 APRL 11, 1988

WfISTRY OF PE1ROI..EUM AND NAllJ.. (8) the number 01 ~ Including RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMADUTT): (a) to (c). administrative ones submIIed by 1he M0- NaIuraI Gas is being supplied ttuough pipe-- nopolies and Restrictive Trade ",.._ Ines for domeItic pwpoaes in 1he cities d Commission to Government during 1987- BaIoda and saag.. CoInmlmenIs have 88. bean made tor supply of gas tor this purpose in cities like Bombay. Sural. AnkIeshwar- (b) the names of big industrial houses Blauch and AgartaIa. and individuals that figured in those reports; and IndusIrIea denotIIIad In West Bengal (c) the action taken by Govemment on 5654. KUMARIMAMATABANERJEE: the basis of I_a reports? WIIthe Uinis1erof INDUSTRY be pleased 10 state the ·details of industries which have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bean danotifiad during 1987-88 in West DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Bengal? OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to Ccl. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE During the period April 1987 to March 1988, DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAl DEVEL- the MRTP Commission had submitted two OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- administrative reports, one on the working of lRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): In the the MRTP Commission for inclusion in the Slate 01 West Bengal. the Govemment of 16th Annual Report pertaining to the execu- India denotified two industrial undertakings tion of the provisions of the MRTP Ad, 1969 taken over under the Industries (Develop- for the year 1986; and the other relating to ment & Regulation) Ad. 1951 viz. MIs Ben- the provisions ~ the monopolistic, restrictive gal Potteries Limited. denotified w.e.1. and unfair trade practices as oontained inthe 1.11.1987 and Mis Mohini Mills ltd. denoti- MRTP Act for the purpose of the Annual fled w.e.f. 22.6.1988. Report of the Oeptt. of Company Affairs for· the year 1987-88. While the Annual Report However. on a wrj petition filed by the pertaining the exeaJtion of the provisions Bengal Potteries Workers and Others, the ,0 of the MRTP Ad, 1969forlhe year 1986 was CaIcuUa High Court has stayed the implem- laid on the Table of the House on 5th Sep- ercaIion of. the Central Government's deci- tember, 1988, The Annual Report 1987-88- sionof denotificaIion 01 MIs Bengal Potteries ltd. and status-quo was maintained. The of the Department of Company Affairs was case is sub-judice since then. cirwlated amongst the Members of the House on 13th April, 1988. Reports aubmittad by Monopolies and R ••lrlcllv. Trade PractIces C0mmis- Industrialisation of Rural Ar... sion 5858. SHRI H.B. PATlL:WiII the Minis- 5655. SHRI ~ CHAUDHRY: Will tar of INDUSmy be pleased to state: the Minister d INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (a) whether the National Small IOOust- 113 CIWTRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Wiiten AnsMHS 174

Akashvani and Doorda'shan.

5656. SHRI H.B. PAlL: WI the Minis- [ TtanSIathn) ter of 1N00000Y be pleased to state: Manufacture' of hand ...... paper by (a) whether the National Smal Indus- IMC tries Corporation Ud. has formulated an ambitious pBl to industrialise the rural ar- 5658. SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI eas in the counIry; and CHATURVE01: Wil the Minister of INDUS- TRY be pleas8d to .state: (b) I so. the salient features thereof? (a) whether the Khadi and· VIIage in- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE dustries Commission is engaged in encoUr- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAl DEVEL- aging the manufacture of hand made paper OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- and to popularising its maximum use; TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) and (b). Nalional Smallndustries Corporation's (b) if so, whether hand made paper is objectives are 10 assist in promotion and used in the Khadi and Village Indusbies development of Smal Scale Industries with Commission and the institutions affiliated to special emphasis on industries in the back- it; and ward and rural areas. The Corporation pro- vides facilities for training manpower, im- (c) if not. the reasons therefore? proved tools and equipment, machinery on hire purchase and leasing terms, marketing THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lME assistance and raw material assistance. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAl.. DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Re-Organlsation of Akashvani and TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) Yes, . Doordarshan Sir.

5657. SHRI GANGA RAM: Will the (b) KYIC uses hand made paper. Ac- Minister of INFORMA TK>N AND BROAD- cording to our information, by and large. CASTING be pleased to state: other affiliated institutions also use hand made paper. (a) whether there is a proposal for the re-organisabon of Akashvani and Doord- (c) Does not arise in view of (b) above. arshan; (Englis~ (b) if so, the details of the proposal; and Investment In Public Sector Units (e) the progress made so far in this regard? 5659. DR. KRUPASINDHU 8HOI: WiU the Minister of INDUSmV be pIeased ·to THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- state: TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.LBHAGAT): (a) to (c). There is (8) the investment made in the public no proposal under consideration of the sector dwing the first four years of the Sev- Govamment for reorganisation as such as enth Plan; 175 WrlIfen Answers APRil 11, 1989 Written Answers 178

(b)the steps taken by publiC sector unls (b) whether there is any plan to provide in resources mobilisation .during these telephones in all Panchayats in the country; years; and

(c) whether Government have a pr0- (e) if so, the details thereof? posal to step to the outlay for ptJblic sector during 1989-90; 1liE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MJNISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (d) if so, the detail!; thereof? GlRIOHAR OOMANOO): (a) to (c). As per the poncy of the Department it is planned to THE MINISTEB OF INDUSTRY (SHRI provide a telecom. facility on fully subsidised J. VENGAl RAO): (a) Th~ investment in basis within about 5 Kms. of every inhabited terms of Gross Block made in the Central place. For this purpose cOuntry has been Public Enterprises during the first three diVided into hexagons of 5 Kms. side each years of the Seventh Five Year Plan for arid a principal village, preferably a Pan- which period only the information is avail- chayat Headquarter in it is earmarked for able was As. 34826. 89 crores. providing telecom. facility. Out of a total of 50421 such inhabited hexagons in the coun- (b) Central Public Sector Enterprises try 284n have been provided with telecom. have been advised from time to time to take. facility as on 31.3. 1988. The balance will be various steps appropriate to each of them for provided with telecom. facility progressively further improvement of their working with a during Eighth Five Year Plan. A separate view to generate more and more internal record Panchayat-wise is not maintained. resources. Some of the important steps taken by the Central Public Sector Enter- In the perspective plan of the depart- prises in resources mobilisation during ment. it is planned to provide a phone in these years are increased capacity utilisa- every village by the year 2000 A.D. tion, better management, efficient planning and financial control, adequate attention to LPG Distributorships In Orissa R&D, avoidance of cost and time over-runs etc. 5661. SHRt RADHAKANTA DIGAl: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND (c) and (d). The Plan outlay of the NAruRAL GAS be pleased to state: Central Public Sector Enterprises is ex- pected to rise from Rs. 13532.61 crores (a) the names of the cities and towns in during 1988-89 to Rs. 16345.48 crores dur- Orissa where LPG dealerships have been ing 1989-90. established, by each oil company;

Telephone Facility In Gram Panchayats (b) whether Government have a pro- posal to extend LPG facility in some more 5660. DR. PHUlRENU GUHA : Will the towns of Orissa during 1989; and Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (c) Hso, the details in this regard?

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) · the number of gram panchayats MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- which have been provided with telephones RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMADUTI): (a) The as on 31 st December, 1988; State-wise; names of cities and towns in Orissa State 171 Wrilten Ans.... CHAn'RA21, 1911 (&AKA) WriltenAn..... 178 where LPG distrbutorships are existing at 18. link Nagar present are given in the Statement I below: 19. Burla (b) and (c). Upto the Annual LPG Mar- keting Plan 1988-89, oil companies have Hindustan Petrol9um plans to set up 15 more LPG distributorships Corporation Limited. in various towns and cities of Orissa State. Details of swch plans are given in the State- 20. Aska ment II below:- 21. Anandpur STATEMENT-I 22. Balugaon Indian Oil, corporation Limited. 23. Balangir 1. Angual 24. Baleshwar 2. Balasore 25. Baripada 3. Barelil 26. Barhampur 4. Berhampur 27. Bhubaneshwar 5. Bhanj Nagar 28. Brajrajnagar 6. Bhavanipatna 29. Burta 7. Bhubaneswar 30. Bhadrak 8. Birmitrapur 31. Bargarh 9. Cuttack 3 ... Chatrapur 10. Dhenkanal 33. euttack 11. Jharsuguda 34. Damonjodi 12. Paradeep 35. Dhenkanal 13. Puri 36. Jatni 14. Rajgangpur 37. Jeypore 15. Rourkela 38. Kendrapa"!l 16. ·· Sambalpur 39. Koraput

17. Sundergarh ' 40. Keonjhargarh 179 APRIL 11,1989

41. Paradeep

42. NaIconagar

43. Phulbani 4. Cutbd

44. Pun 5. Chowdwar

45. Parlakhemuncl 6. Nowrangpur

4. Rayagada 7. Debagarh

47. AowkeIa 8. Ganupw

48. Rajganiu 9. 8erhampur (2 OistrbJlorships) 49. SambaIpur 10. Khurda SO. Sunabeda 11. Puri 51. Tillagarh 12. Rairangpur 52. Vluampur Target for cement production 53. Jharsuguda 5662. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. 54. Joda BHOSAlE: Win the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to slate: 55. TaIchar. (a) whether the Planning Commission Bharst Peftoleum has fixed certain target tor cement produc- CoIpoIaIiar1 Limied. tion during 1989-90; (b) if so, the details thereof; 56. BhWaneswar (c) whether this target if .ely to be 57. JajJur Road achieved; and

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Seiling up of C-Dot Exchanges THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lHE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI 5663. SHRIMATI O.K. BHANDARI: Wdl GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to stale: (b) Details are given in the Statement (a) whether C-Dot exchanges have below; been set up in certain States and Union - Terribies; (c) No, Sir.

(b) if so, the details thereof, district- (d) Due to limited production. c-DoI wise; exchanges could not be supplied to SIdUm. 183 APRil 11, 1989 Written AnsWtn 184

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Pilot Pro)IaIa In YIIIagea VASAKr SAntE): (a) About 1034 .... Photrwollaic ...... pumping .,.._ .,. 5684. SHRI LAKSHMAN MALLICK: supplied to \Wious States and Union tIntD- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to nee for m...... ·drinking water and micIo- state: irrigation reqWraments under the Pho- tovoItaic Demonstration Programme. The (8) the number of villages where pilot State-wise dataIs are given in the StaIement projects for the utilisation of solar energy beiow. have been commissioned to provide drink- ing water and minor irrigation. State ...; and (b) Reslltls of solar power baaed 1ight- ing systems have been reported to be ftI'/ (b) the results of the first solar power- encouraging including that of one of the first based lighting systems? such systems namely a 7.3 kwp unit installed five years ago in village Salojipalty in Andhra THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Pradesh for lighting and other purposes.

STATEMENT

State-wise Break '!P (As on 31. 12.1988)

S.No. StateAJ. T. Pumps (No. of viDages)

1 2 3

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2. Arunachal Pradesh 7

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4. Bihar 84

5. Goa 2

6. Gujarat 91

7. Haryana 4

8. Himachal Pradesh 8

9. Jammu & Kashmir 1

10. Karnataka 7

11. Kerala 6

12. Madhya Pradesh 75 203 Written AnIMn APRil 11, 1989 Written AnsW8l'S 204

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14. Manipur 2

15. Meghalaya 25

16. Mizoram 4

17. Nagaland 11

18. Orissa 64

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20. Rajasthan 6

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22 Tripura n

23. Uttar Pradesh 240

24. West Bengal 28

25. A & N Islands 23

26. Delhi 25

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[ Translation] Scheduled Castes/Scheduled Tribes candi- dates while appointing the departmental Representation to SCslSts in Appoint- heads; ment of Departmental Heads In Public Undertakings (c) Whether any Committee are consti- tuted in these public undertakings; and 5665. SHRI R. P. SUMAN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (d) if so. the names of public undertak- ings were 9'embers of scheduled Castesl (a) the names of public Undertakings Scheduled Tribes have been associated on under his Ministry where there are depart- these committees? mental heads belonging to Scheduled CastesiSchedulod Tribes; THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAl RAO): (a) to Cd). Information is beinqmH~r:t&d ;:md '."' \ ~l be I::~kt on ~h0 Table 205 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Wribn Answ.. 206

()f the House to the 'extent available. Central Government Ministries, Guest Houses and Railway Canteens etc. [English] Con80lIdated Telephone Bills by Solar Cooker. Calcutta Telephone.

5666. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD SETHI: 5667. SHRI M. V. CHAN- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to DRASEKHARA MURTHY: Will the Minister state: of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state:

(a) the extent to which solar energy is (a) whether the Calcutta telephones being utilised for heating water for kitchens authorities have been issuing telephone bills etc; to its subscribers for a consolidated period of six months or more instead of normal bi- (b) whether any market research has monthly bills; been conducted in this regard and if so, the results thereof; and (b) whether the subscribers have been objecting to the process of consolidated bill- (c) whether solar cookers have been ing; introduced in all the staff canteens of the Central Government Ministries, their guest (c) if so, the facts and reasons therefor houses/railways kitchens etc. and if so, the and thE:' details of complaints received in this details thereof? regard; and

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI (d) the action taken to stop such consoli- VASANT SATHE) :(a) 3289 Domestic Solar dated billing and issue bi-monthly bills as per Water Heating Systems and 2315 commer- the rules; cial and industrial water heating systems with a total capacity of 51 lakhs litres per day THE MINISTER OF STATE IN ll-fE hot water have already been installed in the MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI country. Most of th Domestic Solar Water GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No. Sir. Tele- Heating Systems and some of the Commer- phone Bills are normally iss~d bi-monlhly cial and Industrial water heating systems are to all subscribers. However, in the case of being used for supply of hot water for kitchen new telephone connections sometimes etc. there is late receipt of information of provi- sion of telephone from the field staff, which (b) Surveys indicate that there is vast results occasionally in the issue of a consoli~ potential for solar water heaters and solar dated bill. cookers because of the abundance of sun- shine available free of cost in the country. (b) and (c). The subscribers do gener- ally objed such consolidated biUing. How- (c) Solar Cookers are now also avail- ever, such cases are very rare. If any sub- able for community cooking applications. scriber expresses his inability to pay tn. Community SOlar Cookers have been intro- consolidated bill at a time request for pay:- duced in tribal hostels, in schools in schools ment in instalments is also considered. for Mid-day meal Scheme and for Military and Para-Military forces kitchens etc. This (d) To avoid such cases steps are taken will also be introduced in staff canteens of to speed up the coHoction of Information 207 Written An..,.. APRIL 11, 1989 Written Ans....,. 208 regarding the provision of new connection quantity exported during the last thr.. y ..... ; from various fielda units. and

Export of Indu raw film. (c) the steps taken to incrMse the .. port? 5668. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minis- ter of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: THE-M1NISlER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAL RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether the Indu raw films is being ....ect; (b) and (c). The exports of Hindustan (b) if so, the names of the col!ntries to Photo Alms Mfg. Co. Ltd. (HPF) during the which these films are exported and the last three years are as under:-

Year Name of the countries Exports (Rs. in /akhs)

1986-87 USA, Malaysia, Bangladesh, 36.34 Dubai, Oman & Zimbabwe

1987-88 Bangladesh, Philippines, 7.33 Dubai and Oman.

1988-89 USA, Afghanistan, Philipines, 26.41 Dubai, Oman and Mauritius.

The Company bis taking steps to re- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL~ duce product cost and increase international OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- competitiveness. TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (a) and (b) Bamboo based industry falling within the Financial Incentives to bamboo based purview of the Khadi and Village Industries Industries Commission are provided the following assistance/concessions:- 5669. SHRI N. DENNIS: Will the Minis- ter of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: i) Financial assistance in the form of loans and grants according to approved (a) whether any financial incentives are pattern. provided to bamboo based industries;

(b) if so, the details thereof? ij) Fiscal concessions, such as exemp~ tion from income-tax sales tax. interest (c) whether export potential of the prod- subsidy etc. No special financial incentive is ucts of these bamboo based industries has provided to the paper industry for use of been explored; and bamboo as a raw material for paper making, or to SSI units for manufacture of items (d) if so, the details thereof? based on bamboo. Cash incentive on f.o.b. value is extended for export of handicrafts, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE including those made of bamboo. CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Ans.." 210

(c) and (d). Sales-cum-Study teams been set up in Bihar during the last four had visited U.S.A. Canada. West Germany, years; France. Belgium and U.K. to study market potential and to explore export opportunities (b) if not, whether it is proposed to set up for handicrafts. including those made of a power plant in Bihar which is the most bamboo. backward State in the country so far as power generation is concerned; and [ Translation) (c) if so, the capacity and the site Setting up of New Power Plants In thereof? Bihar THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 5670. SHRI VLJAY KUMAR YADAV: DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): state: (a) Yes, Sir. The following Power Projects have been commissioned in Biharduringthe (a) whether any new power plant has last four years:-

Name of the project Capacity (MW) State Sedor

1. Patratu Unit-10 110

2. Muzaffarpur Unit-2 110

Central Sector

3. Bokaro "b" Unit-1 210

4. Maithon GT Unit-1,2& 3 90

520

(b) and (c). In view of answer to (a) (b) the total allocation made for this above questions do not arise. project?

[English1 THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- Expansion of A. •• R. Station, Callcut FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): (a) and (b). Under 5671. SHRI MULLAPPALl Y RAMA- Jhe VII Plan of AIR, there is a proposal for CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of INFORMA· establishment of a "Morning Information TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to Programme (Aaj Subah) Unit at AIR Calicut. state: The allocation made for 1989-90 is Rs. 60,000.

(b) if so, the details thereof? (a) whether the tender for woollen dress materials for the un ionised category of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE empbyees of Eastern Region Business MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Centre of the Oil and Natural Gas Commis- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. sion has been finalised;

(b) Details are given in the statement (b) if so, the details of offers, prices below:- received from the various participants in the bid of the tender: STATEMENT (c) whether awarded of the contract or Details of the experimental Satellite contracts has been given; and based rural telegraph network in the North-East (d) if so, the details of awardee or con- tractor. total metres of materials to be sup- There is an R&D Pilot Project sanc- plied. time schedule and advance given, if tioned at the cost of Rs. 4.39 crores for the any. establishment of a satellite basec:! Rural Telegraph Network in the North Eastern THE MINISTER OF STATE OF ~E Region. The network has been configured MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- with the existing satellite .earth station at RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMADUT1): (a) Yes, Shillong as the main hub and 50 Rural Tele- Sir. graph Terminals spread in the states of Arunachal Pradesh, Assam. Manipur. (b) to (d). Against an open tender under Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland and two bid system floated by the Eastern Re- Tripura. This network when fully expanded gion Business Centre of Oil and Natural Gas can cater for 1000 terminals. The project Commission (ONGC) for its requirement of provides for the development of necessary Terry Wool Cloth for 1988, eight offers were hardware and soft were for rural telegraph received. Only the offer of MIs. Ramakrishna terminals and for main earth station aug- Agencies. Calcutta representing M/s.British mentation in collaboration with Space Appli- Indian Corpn. Dharmal was shortJisted by cation Centre (Deptt. of Space) & Indian the Tender Committee of ONGe, Accord- Telephone Industries. The equipment is to ingly the order for the entire quantity of ,. manufactured by the ITI 8angabl'8. 26.130 mtrs. was placed on this company@ 213 Written Answers CHAITRA 21. 1111 (SAKA) Written An.. ,. 214

Rs. 227.50 per mtr. (inclusive of aD taxes, ...... poperbiUing. Work foroomputGrised duties, packing and forwarding charges f.o.r. bBng is aIIo in progress Reserve Bank of destination). The scheduled date of delivery India. Kawlpur has also been addres$ed to is 17.4.89 (No advance payment has been take aJJ care to ensure that cheques are made to th~ contractor). cleared expeditiously.

Comp.. ant. Regarding Wrong T..... Sax Telephone Exchanges at Lahlr phone BIII8 In Kanpur Sarall H.P.

5674. SHRl V. SREENIVASA 5675. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAP- PRASAD: Will the Minister of COMMUNI- ASHAR: WiD the Minister of COMMUNICA· CATIONS be pleased to state: TIONS be pleased to state:

(a) whether the subscribers of Kanpur (a) whether the unsatisfactory of func- Telecom. District have been complaining tioning of the SAX telephone Exchange at about wrong billing in respect to their tele- Lahri SaraH undar D.T.E Dharamsala (HP) phones; has been brought to the notice of Himachal Pradesh Telecom. Circle authorities during (b) if so. the number of complaints re- 1988-89; ceived by the Kanpur telephones during the last three months, ending 31st March, 1989; (b) if so. the action taken to ensure its proper functioning and satisfactory service (c) whether the Kanpur Telephones to the subscribers; and have received complaints that payments of the telephone bills by cheque are being (c) if not. the reasons therefor? refused or in regard to non-presentation of cheques of the subscribers as a result of THE MINISTER OF: STATE IN THE which the telephones were disconnected; MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt GIRIDHARGOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. Some (d) if so, the facts thereof; and complaints regarding unsatisfactory work- ing of La hri Sarail SAX wore received. (e) the action proposed to be taken to render proper billing and proper handling of (b) On receipt of complaints, the work- cheques by Kanpur telephones authorities? ing of SAX equipment and external Plan has been checked and defects removed. It is THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE working satisfactory at present. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Yes. (c) Does not arise. Sir. 1096 complaints were received during this period. Evaluation of Performance of Public (c) and (d). No,Sir. Cheques are being Sector Undertakings presented to the Reserve Bank of India for clearance and only in case cheques being 5676. DR. S.l. SHAILESH: Will the dishonoured, telephones are disoonnectad Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: for non-payment., (a) whether Govemment have decided (0) All possible efforts are made to to asscdaIion non-Government experts in 215 APRIL 11, 1989 WriIt." Ans... 218 evaluating the performance of public S8dDr mine unaconomicand what win bathe fate of undertakings which haw signed Memoran- the employees? dum of Understanding (MOU) as reported in the IEmnomic Tunes' of 10th March, 1989; THE MINISTER OF ENERGY(SHRI \lASANT SATHE): (a) to (d). Coal India (b) if SO, the details in this regard; Limited has not formally declared any mine as uneconomic, with a view to close then. (c) whether a start has been made in However, for individual subsidiary compa- this direction; and nies some Committees of Experts have made recommendations which include, in- (d) if so, the outcome thereof? ter-alia closure of some heavily losing mines. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAl RAO): (a) Yes, Sir. Chari Committee on Eastern Coalfields Umited had observed that 22 mines, contrib- (b) to (d). An ad-hoc task force of ex- uting very little production, were responsible perts from outside has been constituted to for heavy losses and some of them deserved assist the High Power Committee, under the to be closed. After examination, Govern- chairmanship of the Cabinet secretary, in ment decided that out of 22 mines. 12 mines the formulation of MOUs and evaluation of could be closed and persons employed in the performance of the signatories to the them could be utilised fruitfully by redeploy- MOUs. This Task Force has already ren- ing them in other mines or making them to dered assistance on the MOUs for the year retire voluntary through an attractive pack- 1989-90, which are expected to be signed age of voluntary rE'tirement. In the Statement very shortly. Evaluation wiJl be done after the below is given the list of mines mentioned in close of the year 1989-90. the report of Shri Chari together with the production upto 1987-88. CIo8Ing of Min.. by Coat india Umlted Banerjee Committ6e on Bharat Coking 56n. SHRt GURUDAS KAMAT: Will Coal Ltd.recommended that heavy losing the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: mines, with low production or awaiting re- constructionlinvestment, should be consid- (a) whether the Coal India limited had ered for temporary closure and men diverted declared a number of coal mines as unecon- to productive works. omic; So far five mines have been closed (b) if so, the details thereof and their each in Eel and BCCl. In both the cases, production during the last three years; persons rendered surplus due to closure of mines have ben redeployed in other mines (c) whether it is proposed to close down and jobs. these mines; and Mines having very low production and incurring heavy losses are considered as (d) if so, the criteria fixed for declaring a uneconomic mines. 217 WrIIMAtanws CHA1TRA21. 1911 ($AKA) Wrilten AnsMHS 218

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Plan OUtlay for Coal Sector Planning Commission have approved an outlay of Rs. 1800 erores for Coal India ltd 5678. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Will (CIL) and its subsidiaries; of this Rs 1040 the Minister d ENERGY be pleased to state: crores would be provided by the Govern- ment as budgetary support. For Singareni (a) the details of the outlay approved by Collieries Company Ltd (SCCL) the Plan- the Planning Commission for 1989-90 for ning Commission have approved an outlay the different coal project? of Rs. 211 crores; of this Rs. 150 crores would be provided by the Government as (b) to what extent coal production is budgetary support. likely to be increased:

(c) whether the Coal India Limited has (b) In 1989-90, coal production is likely any system to monitor the progress, finan- to increase by about 15 million tonnes. cial outlay and the enhanced production of coaI;and (c) and (d). Detailed monitoring is done by Cll on monthly basis covering various Cd) if so, the details of monitoring and aspects like production productivity, ma- progress made during the last three years? chine utilisation. despatches, financial per- formance etc, Over the last three years sig- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHJ:l1 nificant improvements have been achieved VASANT SATHE): (a) For 19'89-90. the as shown below:-

Year Raw Coal Productivity Net Profit (+) -OM5- toss (-) (in tones) (Rs. in crores)

1985-86 134.11 0.91 (-) 404.18

1986-87 144.74 0.98 (-) 331.75

1987-88 159.05 1.08 (-)224.64

1988-89 171.55 1.15

*Accounts for 1988-89 are yet to be finalised.

Development of Telecommunication In allow the private sector to increase its contri- PrIvate Sector bution towards the development of telecom- munications in the country; 5679. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK : Wdl the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (b) if so, the details in this regard; and pleased to state: (c) to what extent private sector has so (a) whether Government propose to far contributed towards the development of 225 Wrflten Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Writen AMWIS 226

telecommunication? (d) if so, the details thereof?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lliE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRiAL DEVEL- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c) Contribu- tion of Private sedor towards the develop- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- ment of telecommunications has increased TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM) : (8) The with the liberalisation of Government policy. Planning Commission have not specifICally Private sector has been permitted to take up suggested any pragmatic approach about manufacture and sale of type approved tele- sickness in the small scale sector. The Plan- comunication equipment for installation at ning Minister. while inaugurating a seminar subscribers, premises such as electronic organised by FICCI on 'Survey on the mar- push button telephone. EPABXs. fascimile keting.problems of small scale industry' had . equipment, pay phones. electronicteleprint- referred to growing sickness in the small ers etc. It has also been permitted to manu- scaJe sector. facture small capacity exchanges and trans- mission equipment as well as cables. Sev- (b) A number of causes, both internal eral companies have set up such manufac- and external, often operating in combination turing facilities. have been responsible for industrial sick- ness in the small scale sector. Some of these Pragmatic Approach for Growth of causes are; faulty planning, management Small Scale Sector deficiencies. inefficient financial control. diversion of resources. inadequate attention to A & 0 • obsolescence of technology and 5680. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO- machinery. poor industrial relations. inade- HIT: quate demand. shortage of raw material and PROF. RAMKRISHNA MORE: other inputs, power cuts, inadequacy of working capital. delay in sanction of working Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be capital and time gap between sanction of pleased to state: term loan and working capital and other infrasfructural constraints. (a) whether the Planning Commission has called for a pragmatic approach to curb (c) and (d). A number of measures have the growing sickness in the small scale been taken by Govt. to promote small scale sector. if so, the details thereof; industries in the country which include provi- sion of institutional support and package of (b) the reasons for growing sickness in incentives and concessions like conces- the small scale sector; sional finance. excise benefits. marketing support through reservation of items for (c) whether Government have since exclusive produdion, reservation of items taken any steps to remove bottlenecks in the for exclusive/partial purchase from small growth of small scale sector; and scale units. supply of machinery on hire 227 Written AnSW8tS APRIL 11, 1989 Written AnsW9IS 228 purchase, technical consultanct services, destination stations; and testing facilities, common facility services, provision of industrial acx:ommodation and (c) if so, the steps taken for quick con- other infrastructural facilities. nections for the STD numbers dialled by the subscribers? Deposit Scheme for Retiring Public Sector Employ.. s THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI 5681. SHRI V. S. MAHAJAN: Will the GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The names of Minister of IN DUSmV be pleased to state: the cities and towns provided with SID facil- ity as on 31.12.88 are given in the statement below:- (a) whether representations have been received from public sector employees to (b) No, Sir. extend the deposit scheme for retiring Government employees to them to invest (c) For further improvement of SID their retirement benefits for a block period of service in the following · steps have been three years as announced in the budget taken: proposals for 1989-90; and 1. Periodic service quality tests are (b) if so, the reaction of Government conducted regularly to watch the thereto and whether any decision has been STD service performance; taken in the matter? 2. Parameter controlling the per- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI formance of trunk automatic J. VENGAL RAO): (a) No. Sir. (TAXs) are regularly monitored;

(b) Does not arise. 3. Adequacy of circuits is watched regularly to case out congestion. S.T.D. Facility to cities and Towns Satellite circuits have also been provided linking a number of 5682. SHRI BALASAHEB. VIKHE PA- trunk automatic exchanges; TIL: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- TIONS be pleased to state: 4. Old electromechanical trunk (a) the details of the cities and towns automatic exchanges are being ,that have been provided with STD facilities replaced by modern electronic as on 31 December, 1988; auto exchanges (Digital type):

(b) whether the subscribers have to wait 5. STD junctions are tested daily to for long hours to get STD connections to the ensure high availability; and 229 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1Sl11 ($AKA) Wtiften An• ..,. 230

6. Performance of STD junctions Guntur are regularly monitored ttvough micro-processor based traffic Karimnagar recorders. Machilipatnam STATEMENT Nellore Station Having sro facility as on 31.12.88 Sangaraddy

Andhra Pradesh Visakhapatnam

Adoni Warnagal

Armoor Pamidi

Bobbilli Anakapalle

Dowleswaram Balacheruvu

G:Jdur Chilakaluripet

Kothagudem Duggirala

Nandigama Guntakal Pattancheru

Rajamundhry Kovur

Samalkot Nandyal

Tanuku Peddapuram

Ramachandrapuram Tirupati

Vijayawada TadepaJligudem

Tanali Vuyyuru

Chittoor Renigunta 231 Wriaen AnsMts APRil 11, 1989 WhltM Answ8fs 232

Ibrahimpatnam Eluru

Adilabad Kakinada

Eumool Cuddapath

Nalgonda Hyderabad Ongole Khammam VlZianagaram Mahboobnagar Srikalahastri Nizamabad Kazipet Srikakulam Arunachal Pradesh Ualkapuram Itanclgar Hanamkonda Nahariagan Anaparthy AsSam Bhimavaram Pongaigaon Chirala Guwahti Gudivada Oibrugarh Kavali Sibsagar lingampalty Tinsukhia Palakote Oispur Prodatur Halflong Ravulapalam Silchar Tadpatri

Ohubri Tun; Jhalukbari Triumala Jorhat Poranki Bihar Ananthapur 233 Wrilten Answers CHAITRA 21,1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 234

Bokaro-Steel City Jharia

Dalmianagar Hajipur

Jamshedpur Madhubani

Arrah Muzaffarpur

Bhagalpur Pumea

Daltonganj Dhruva

Dhanbad Chapra

Giridh Deogarh

Katihar Gaya

Motihari Hazaribagh

patna Monghyr

Ranchi Nawada

Sasaram Siwan

Chas Samastipur

Forbesganj Gujarat

Adityapur Anand

Begusarai Cambay

Chaibasa Dhrangadhara

Chirkunda JamkhambaJia

Sindri Kapadwanj

Telco Nadiad

Boniah Probandhar

Unjha Darbhanga Wankaner 235 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 238

Amreli Godhra

Bulsar Mehsana

Jamnagar Palanpur

V.V. Nagar Kheda

Debohi Rajkot

Dwarka Surat

Mahua Surendrctngar

Patan Goa

Savarkundal Margao

Veraval Mapusa

Ahmedabad Vasco

Baroda Panjim

Gandhinagar Himachal Pradesh

Junagarh Dbarmshala

Biii mora Shim.at

Dholka Solan

Gandhidham Hamirpur

Kalol Mandi

Morvi Nahan

Poulad Bilaspur

Talod Haryana

Visnagar Kalka

Ahwa Yamunanagar

Bhavnagar Faridabad 237 Written AnSW8l'S CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnsW91S 238

Kamal Kundara

Sonepat Mannar

Panipat Muvatthapuzha

Ambala Neyyatinkara

Gurgaon Ottapalam

Rohtak Parur

Rewar Perumbavur

Bhiwan Shertalai

Hissar Tellicherry

Sirsa Tirur

Jammu & Kashmir Alleppey

Sopore Ernakulam

Srinagar Kalamaseri

Baramulla Udyamparpr

Anantnag Kottayam

Jammu Kozhikode (Calicut) Udhampur Palg hat- Kerala Quilon- Adoor Trichur Angamally Ollur Chalakudy Alathur Chingavanam Attingal Kunamkulam Chenganacherry Kalady Chowghat- Kalencherry 239 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 240

Cranganore Chenganur

Guruvauyur Kanhangod Kothamangalam Irinjalakuda

Mala Kayamkulam

Man narg hat Kottarkara

Narakkal Manjeri

Nilambur Munnar

palai Nedumangad

Payyanur Nileshwar

Ponnani Pandalam

Shoranur Perinthalmanna

Thiruvalla Punalur

Vaikom Taliparamba

Jannanore- Thodupuzha

Chittoor Vizhinjam

Trikakra Balipatnam

Idukki Ed uc:och in

Gandhinagar Tripunitra

Feroka Kalpetta

Olavakkode Kanjikuzhi

Chinnakada tt,alappuram

Aigappanagar- Pathanamthitta

Kolandi Trivandrum

Alwaye Cherpu

Badagara Kamataka 242 241 Wrllten Answers CHAITRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) WrltUm AnswelS

Salkote Bangalore

Datwal Bidar

Chickballapur Chitradurga

Harihar Dharwar

Hiriyur Karwar

Kolar Gold Field Mangalore

Kundapur Mysore

Ramanagaram Srimoga

Bejpe Virajpet

Gadag Belgaum

Davangere Bijapur

Heveri Gulbarga

Haspet Hubli '

Koppal Kolar

Naniangud Pe nambur

Ranabennur Belwadi

8angarapet Bhadravati

Channapatna whitefield

Gulegud Bellexy

Hebbagudi Chikmangalur

Kittur Hassan

Krishnapur Vidyanagar

Puttur Mercar

Sirsi Ullal

Udipi Raichur 243 Wrilten AnSW8l'S APRIL 11, 1989 Writtsn Answers 244

Tamkur Panvel

Msgha/aya Telegaon

Jowai Dabhade

Shillong Rahella

Tura Amraoti

Maharashtra Chikalthana

Baramati Jalgaon

Kalyan Nagpur

Ulhansnagar Dehuroad

Navaseva Warda

Srirampur Jaisingpur

KaJamboli Miraj

AkoJa Ratnagiri

Aurangabad Latur

Dhule BhusavaJ

Kolhapur Dombivili

Pune Manmad

Ichalkaranji Satara

Kolpewadi Turbhe

Rahat a

Tarapur Bombay

Bhiwandi Chandrapur

Ambemath; Jalna

Karad Nasik 245 Written AnswetS CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 246

Sangli Gwalior

Vaolmal Indore

Kopargaon Mandsaur

Puntamba · Raipur

Khapolli Satna

Sholapur Ujjain

AfanjJur Itarsi

Imphal Bhind

Madhya Pradesh Oatia

Burhanpur Durg

Jaora Morar

Bhopal Jabalpur

Dewas Morena

Bhilai Rewa

Soshangabad Sehore

Khandwa Vidisha

Raigarh Mizoram

Sagar Aizwal

Secni Lungleh

Katni Naga/and

Dhamtari Dimapur

Mhow Kohime

Bilaspur O,;ssa

Dhar Angul 247 Written Answers APRil 11. 1989 Written Answers 248

Bhubaneshwar ludhiana

Rourkela Gurdaspur

Baripada Jagraon

Cuttack Nabha

Koraput Rajpura

Behrampur Amritsar (Ganjam) Faridkot Mancheswar Jalandhar Sunabad Patiala Chatrapur (Ganjam) Mohali

Chowdwar Khanna

Puri Pathankot

Bhadrak Rayya

Paradweep Chhaharata

Balasore Ferozepur

Dhenkanal Kapurthala

Sambalpur Sangrur

Punjab Rajasthan

Abohar Beawar

Moga Bharatpur

Phagware Jaipur

Sahnewal Kotab

Bhatinda Sriganaganagar

Hoshiarpur Ajmer 249 Mlten AnSlNlS CHAJTRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 250

8i(anar Arai

Jodhpur Avinash

Nagaur Chidambaram

Uddipur Dharapuram

Atwar Hosur

Oholpur Kangeyam

Mandore Karur

Palimarwar Kulitalai

SIdcim Mahabalipurma

Ganglok MeHupaiayam

TamilNadu Nag apatti nam

Aduthurai Ambur

·Arkonam Aruppukkottai

Attur Bhavani

Bdinayakkanur Chingleput

Chinnalapatti Gopichetttipalayam

Gummudipoondi Housr Sipcot

Kapakkam Kanyakumari

Karaikudi Kodaikanat

Kavisapatti Kumabakonam

Kuzbithuri Mannargudi

Maraimalai Nagar Musiri

Myladuthurai Namakkal

Ambasamudram Nellikuppam 251 Written Answers APRil 11. 1989 Written Answars 252

Panruti Annur

Perundurai NeyvaIi

Rajapalayam Papanasam

Ranipet Sipcot Polachi

Sankarankol Rameswaram

Sattur Melvisharam

Sivakasi Sankaridurg

Tenkasi Shencottah

Tindivanam Simanur

Tiruttani Theni

Tiruvellor TlrUChaengode

Valliyoor Taruvannamalai

Vellakoil Udumalpei

Kurichi Vq,a,ai

Sulur Viliupuram

Brode Madukkarai

Madurai Dharmapuri

Silaiman Kancheepuram

Ooty Naga~u

Salem Kotlai

Tirunelveli ThinMlagar

Manachanallur Pudukottai

Tiruparaithura; Sivaganga

Tuticorin Palayariulta 253 vVritten Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 254

Somarasempetta Srirangam

Ttruverumbur Venore

Tuticorin Port Trust Vtrudhunagar

Palladam Tripura

Paramakudi Agartala

Ponneri Badhakishorepur

Ranipet Uttar Pradesh

Rasipuram Bhadohi

Sathyamangalam Koshkatan

Sirkali Mugalsarai

Srivilliputtur Roorkee

Thirumangalam lundla

Tiruppur Aligarh

Tiruvarur Gopiganj

Uthukuli Malihabad

Vaniyambadi Mussorie

Coimbatore Shikahabad

Perianakkenipalaym Ujhani

Dindigual Allahabad

Madras Hapur

Othakkadai Modinagar

Nagarcoil Noida

Ramanathapuram Surajpur

Thanjavur Agra

Trichy Naini 255 Writ." Answers APRil 11. 1989 Written Answers 256

Aomora Deoband

Basti Bareilly

Oehradun Bulandshahar

Faizabad Eiawah

Gorakhpur Ghaziabad

Lahimpur-Kheri Kanpur

Mathura Maiopuri

Moradabad Mirzapur

Orai NainitaJ

Pithoragarh Pilibhit

Rampur .Raebareli

Sitapur Shahjahanpur

Varanasi Unnao

Badaun West Bengal

Bijnore Asansol

Etha Barkar

Fatehpur Bumpur

Jaunpur Haldia

lucknow Khargpur

Meerut Rupnarainpur

Muzaffarnagar Tri ban i

Pauri Calcutta

Pratapgarh Budge-Budge

Saharanpur Uluberia

Sultanpur Krishaoagar 257 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 258

Purulia Delhi

Bagdogra Yenam

Bhatpara Portblair

Diamond Harbour Daman

Jamuriahat Chandigarh

Neamatpur Karaikal

Sainthia Silvasa

Burdwan Minicoy

Alipur Pondicherry

Howrah Kariamanakam

Coochbehar Kavarathy

Maida Electrification of Villages in Suri Maharashtra

Bahula 5683. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- TIL: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased Bolepur to state:

Durgapur (a) the number of villages in Maharash- tra that have been provided with electricity Kalimpong district-wise, as on 31 March. 1989;

Raniganj (b) the number of villages in which have not been Siliguri provided with electricity so far; and

Chinsura (c) when all the villages in Ahmednagar district will be electrified. particularly for Barasat agricutturalpu~ses?

Kalyani THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Da~geling DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): Midnapur (a) A statement indicating districtwise num- ber of villages electrified in Maharashtra as Union Tenitories on 28.2; 1989. given below: 259 Written Answers APRil 11, 1989 Written Answers 260

(b) 17 villages in Ahmednagar district priority accorded However, cent per cent are still to be electrified. electrification in Ahmednagar district ot Maharashtra is likely to be achieved by the end of Seventh Five Year Plan depending (c) The districtwise activities are final- open the availability of financial resources ised only at the State level based on the and other inputs. STATEMENT

S/.No. Districts Villages electrified as on 28.2.89.

2 3

1. Greater Bombay

2. Thane 1731

3. Raigad 1812

4. Ratnagiri Sindhudurg 2069

5. Nasik 1722

6. Dhule 142"

7. Jalgaon 1472

8. Ahmednagar 1446

9. Puna 1674

:0. Satara 1401

11. Sangli 686

12. Solapur 1091

13. Kolhapur 1122

14. Aurangabad Jalna 2051

15. Parbhani 1416

16. Beed 1196

17. Nanded 1425

18. Osmanabad latur 1589 261 ....AnsIMS CHAfTRA 21,1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 262

1 2 3

19. Buldhana 1267

20. AkoIa 1539

21. Amravali 1692

22. Yavalmul 1736

23. Wardha 1003

24. Nagpw 1642

25. Bhandara 1620

26. Chandrapur 2817 Gadchi-roli

Opening of Post and Telegraph Offices information regarding post office is being In Ahmednagar' DIstrId of llaharashtra collected and will be laid on the Table of the House. 5684. SHRI BAlASAHEB VIKHE PA- Til: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- (b) and (c). Information is being col- TIONS be pleased to slale: lected and will be laid on the Table of the House. (a) the number of Post of Telegraph Offices, Main Post Offices, Sub-OIfices and Conversion of Telephone exchanges Branch Post Offices in Ahmednagar district into Electronic Exchange In of Maharashtra as on 31 st March, 1989; Ahmednagar District of Maharashtra (b) whether Government propose to open more such post offices in Atvnednagar 5685. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE PA- and adjoining districts to meet the basis Til: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- requirements of the public; and TIONS be pleased to state:

(c) if so. the details thereof and if not. the (a) the numberoftelephone exchanges reasons therefor? in Ahmednagar district of Maharashtra;

lHE MINISTER OF STATE IN ruE (b) the installed capacity of each tele- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI phone exchange; GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) As on 31.3.1989, there were 86 telegraph offICes (2 departmertal telegraph offICeS and 84 (c) the number of electronic telephone combined offices) functioning in exchanges in Ahmednagar and neighbour· Ah~nagar DisIrict of Maharashlra. The ing districts of the State; and 263 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answws 264

(d) the steps being taken to convert all Ahmednagar District and Two Electronic telephone exchanges in Ahmednagar dis- exchanges in Pune District are working at. trict into electronic exchanges? present. There is no electronic exchange working in any other neighbouring districts namely Aurangabad, Jalna, Osmanabad. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Beed. Solapur and Nasik. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) At present, 110 Nos. of T eJephone exchanges are are work- (d) At 5 places of Ahmednagar District. ing in Ahmednagar District of Maharashtra. electronic exchanges have been allocated. The details of these five exchanges with (b) Exchange-wise information of the switching capacity. type alongwith the year installed capacity is given Statement-I below of allotment given in Statement II below . Conversion of all exchanges to electronic (c) One electronic exchange in ones is a long term objective.

STATEMENT-I

Name of District: Ahmednagar

SI.No. Name of Exchange Type Installed capacity

2 3 4 ':.< 1. Ahmednagar SSI 4500

2. Ahmadnagar MIOC SS2 300

3. Chinchondi-Patil SS3 25

4. Oehere SS3 25

5. Hingangaon SS3 45

6. Jeur SS3 35

7. Pimpalgaon MalYi SS3 25

8. Ruichhattisi SS3 25

9. Saratak.asar SS3 25

10. Walki SS3 35

11. Akala CBN 150

12. Brahmanwada SS3 25

13. Kotul SS3 25 265 Writen MStWH'S CHAITRA 21.1911 (SAKA) Written AnswetS 266

1 2 3 4

14. Rajur SS3 45

15. Rambhadi SS3 25

16. Jamkhed CBN 150

17. Kharda SS3 35

18. Nanaj SS3 25

19. Bhambora SS3 25

20. Karjat CBN 100

21. Khed SS3 25

22. Mirajgaon SS3 90

23. Rashin SS3 45

24. Channali SS3 45

25. Oahigaon Bolka SS3 25

26. Ohamori SS3 35

27. Kolpewadi SS3 90

28. SS2 700

29. Kumbhari SS3 25

30. Pohegaon SS3 35

31. Puntamba SS3 45

32. Rahata SS3 90

33. Ravanda SS3 35

34. SS3 130

35. Bhanshiwra SS3 35

36. Chanda SS3 45 267 Written Answers APRil 11, 1989 Written Answers 268

2 3 4

37. Dhigaon SS3 25

38. Ghodegaon SS3 45

39. Jalka SS3 25

40. Karajgaon SS3 25

41. Kukana SS3 90

42. Newasa CNB 150

43. Pravra Sangam SS3 25

44. Sonai CBN 150

45. Wadala (Bahiroba) SS3 35

46. Alkuti SS3 25

47. Bhalwani SS3 25

48. Jamgaon SS3 25

49. Kanhaur Pathar SS3 25

50. Nighoj SS3 90

51. Parener CBN 75

52. Supa SS3 35

53. Taklidhkeshwar SS3 35

54. Wadzire SS3 45

55. Kasara Pimpalgaon SS3 25

56. Kharvandi SS3 25

57. Miri SS3 25

58. Pathardi CBN 150

59. Tisgaon SS3 45 269 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 270

2 3 4

60. Bargaon SS3 45

61. Brahmani SS3 25

62. Deolali Pravara SS3 90

63. Manjari SS3 45

64. Manori SS3 4S

65. MPKV (Rahuri) CMN 150

66. Rahuri CMS 290

67. Shrishivajinagar SS3 90

68. Songaon (Satral) SS3 90

69. Takalimiya SS3 45

70. Vambori SS3 90

71. Ashvi SS3 25

72. Chandrapuri SS3 90

73 . Dhandharpal SS3 25

74. Ghargaon SS3 35

75. Jawale Kadlag SS3 35

76. Jorve SS3 90

77. Manglapur SS3 45

78. Sakur SS3 25

79. Sangamner CMS 600

80. Amarapur SS3 25

81. Balamtakali SS3 25

82. Dhorjalgaon SS3 45 271 Written Answers APRil 11, 1989 Written AnsWBtS 272

1 2 3 4

83. Shahartakafi SS3 25

84. Shevgaon eNS 150

85. Adhafgaon SS3 45

86. Belwandi SS3 45

87. Kashti SS3 90

88. Kolgaon SS3 25

89. Mandargaon SS3 25

90. Shrigonda CBN 150

91. Shrigonda Factory SS3 3S

92. Belapur Town SS3 90

93. Khirdi SS3 25

94. Kolhar SS3 90

95. Loni SS3 90

96. Mamdapur SS3 2S

97. Nimgaon Khairi SS3 4S

98. Pdhegaon SS3 90

99. Pravarangar SS2 1000

100. Shrirampur SS3 45

101. Taklibhan SS3 45

102. Undirgaon SS3 35

103. Wakadi SS3 4S

104. Narayangaon SS3 25

105. Jawala SS3 25 273 Writt8l1 MswetS CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 274

2 3 4

106. Goregaon SS3 25

107. Telwdgaon SS3 25

108. Chinchodi Shirai SS3 2S

109. Visapur SS3 2S

110. Maka SS3 25

STATEMENT-II

S/.No. Name of Exchange Capacity/Type Year of aJotment.

1. Ahmednagar 500, lines E-1 OB 1992-93 (2nd exchange)

2. Sangamner 1500, lines C-Doct 1991-92 (Replacing manual Exchange)

3. Shirdi 400, Lines NEAX 1989-90 (Replacement of SXS MAX. III)

4. Bhalwani Mini ILT-64 1989-90 (Replacement of SXS MAX.tU)

5. Ravanda Mini ILT-64 1989-90 (Replacement of SXS MAX.III)

Telecommunication Facilities in and Forward Telegraph System) and auto- Seventh Plan matic of C.B.N.M. Exchanges, State-wise;

5686. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- (b) the names of place, Circle-wise, ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- where each one of these facilities is avail- TIONS be pleased to state: able as on 31 March, 1989;

(a) the targets set in the Seventh Plan (c) the names of districts,State-wise and Progress made in respect of thQ facilities which do not have anyone of these facilities of Group Dialling, 1.0. Network, Point to and the reasons therefor; Point S.T. D. linking District Headquarters with State capitals and with each other, intro- (c) whether a programmefor installation duction of N.S.D. and I.S.0., S.F. T. (Store of these facilities has been drawn upto bring 275 Written Answers , APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 276

up the areas still short of national average; if IDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b) tnforma- so, the details thereof; and tion is given in statements, I, II, III & rv below.

(e) the likely date by which these facm- ties would be introduced in all the districts? (c) There is no district without ,any fo these facilities available. THE MINISTER STATE IN THE MINIS- (d) and e). Yes. Sir. Jnformation is given TRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIR- in Statement V below. Wrllt.n AnSIWl'S CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnsWBIS 278

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STATEMENT-II Pattancheru

Stations having STD facilitity as on Peddapuram 31.3.89 Prodatur Andhra Prad9sh Rajamundhry Adoni Ramachandrapuram Anakapalle Ravulapalam Anaparthy Samlkot Armoor TadepalJigudem Balacheruvu Tad patr i Bhimavaram Tanuku Bobbili Tenali Chilakaluripet Tuni Chirala lirupati Dowleswaram Renigunta Duggirata Tirumala Gudivada Vijaywada Gudur Ibrahimpatnam - Guntakal Poranki Kavali Vuyyuru Kothagudem Adilabad Kovur Ananthapur Ungampally

Nandigama Chittoor

Nandyal Cuddapeh

Palakole Eluru 283 Wrilfsn MswetS APRil 11. 1989 Written AnSMN'S 284

Guntur Kovuru

Hyderabad Meder-Metla

Kakinada Thriruviayaru

Karimnagar A,unachaIP~d9sh

Khammam Itanagar

Kurnool Naharlagan

Machilipatnam Assam

Mahboobnagar Bongaigaon

Nalgonda Tinsukhia

NeUore Dhubri

Nizamabad Guwahati

Ongole Dispur

Sangareddy Jhalukbari

Srikakulam Oibrugarh

Vizianagaram Halflong

Visakhapatnam Jorhat

Malkapurma Sibsagar

Srikalahasti Silchar

Warangal Bihar

Hanamkonda Bokaro-Steel city

Kazipet Chas

·Pamidi Chirkunda

Amudalvalasa Oalminagar

Bhadrachalam Forbesganj

Hindupur Sindri 285 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written An...... 286

~ Puma.

MIJ11fl4lI Siwan

Telco Ranchi

Arrah Dhruva

BegusrcIi Samastipur

Bettiah Sasaram

BhagalpJr Biharsharif

Q1ai)asa Gujarat

a.apra Anand

Oalonganj V.V. Nagar

Oarbhanga Bilimora

Oeoarh Cam bay

Dhanbad Oabohi

Jharia Dholka

Gaya Dhnangadhara

Giriclh Dwarka

Ha;pur Gandhidham

Hazaribagh Jamkhambalia

KatiIar Kheda

Madhubani KaJol

Monghyr Kapadwanj

Matinari Mahua

MuzaIIarpur MoM

Nawada Nadiad

Patna Patan 287 . Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Mswet'S 288

Petlad Goa

Porbandhar Margao

Savari

Talod Panjim

Un;ha * Mapusa

Veraval Himachal Pradesh

Visnagar Dharmshala

Wankaner Hamirpur

Ahmedabad Nahan

Ahwa Simla

Amreli * Mandi

Baroda *Bilaspur

Bhavnagar * Solan

Bulsar Haryana

Gandhinagar Kalka

Godhra Panipat

Jamnagar Rewari

Junagarh Yamunanagar

Mahsana Ambala

Palanpur Bhiwanl

Rajkot Faridabad

Surat Gurgaon

StJr~ndranagar Hissar

Halol Karnal

Kallapardi Rohtak 289 Wnlt." Answers CHAfTRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 290

Sirsa Tellicherry

Sonepat Tirur

Jammu & Kashmir Alleppey

Sopore Emakulam

Baramulla Kalamaseri

Jammu Udyamparor

Srinagar Kottayam

*Anantnag Kozhikode (Calicut) Udhampur Palghat

Quilon Adoor Trichur Ang am ally Ollur Chalakudy Cheruvathur Chingavanam Vakrala Kunarnkulam Alathur Kalady Attingal Kolencherry Chengancherry Kundara Chowgath Manner Cranganore Muvauhupuzha Kanhangod Neyyatinkara Kothanmangalam Ottapalam Mala Parur Mannarghat Pen.mbavur

Shertalai Narakkal 291 Written Answers APRil 11. 1989 .."AnsIIWS 212

Palai Manjari

Payyanur Munnar

Ponnani Nedumangad

Shoranur Nileshwar

Thiruvalla Pandalam

Veikom Parinthalmama

Cannanore Punalur

Chittoor Taliparamba

Trikakra Thodupuzha '.

Idukki Vizhinjam

Gandhinagar Balipatnam

Fel'Dke Edacochin

OIavakkode Tripunitra

Chinnakade Kalpetta

Algappanagar Kanjikuzhi

*Kolandi Malappuram

Kottakkal Pathanamthitta

Alwaye Trivandrum

Badagara Cherpu

Chenganur Chitoor

Guruvauyor Mahe

lrinjalakuda KarnataJca

Kayamkulam Bagakote

Kottarkara Bantwal 293 WrMen Answers CHAITRA 21,1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 294

Chickballapur Chitradurga

Harihar Dharwar

Hiriyur Karwar

Kolar Gold Field Mangatore

Kundapur Mysore

Ramanagaram Shimoga

Bajpe Bhatkal

Gadag Virajpet

Davangere Betgaum

Haven Bijapur

Hospet Gulbarga

Koppal Hubli

Nanjangud Kolar

Ranebennur Penambur

Bangarapet Belwadi

Channapatna Bhadravati

Gulegud Gonikoppal

Hebbagudi Whitefiled

Kittur Bellary

Krishnapur Chikmangalur

Puttar Hassan

Sirs; Vidyangagar

Udipi Mercara

Bangalore Ullal

Bidar Raichur 295 Written Answ9fS APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answ9fS 296

Tumkur Ambernath

Gowribidanur Karad

IMghaJaya Panvel

Jowai Talegaon

Shillong Debhade

Tura Rabella

Maharashtra Amraoti

Baramati Chikalthana

Kalyan Jalgaon

Ulhasnagar Nagpur

Navaseva Dehuroad

Srirampur Wardha

Kalamboli *Jaisinghpur

Akola *Miraj

Au rang abad * Ratnagiri

Dhule l,.atur

Kolhapur Kudal

Pune Bhusaval

Sholapur Dombivlll

*lchalkaranji Mamad

* Kolpewadi Satara

*Rahata Turbhe

*Tarapur Ahmedna

Osmanabad Bombay

Bhiwandi Chandra 297 CHAITRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 298

Jalna Bilaspur

Nasik Dhar

Sangfi Gwalior

Yeotmal Indore

* Koperg Mandsaur

*Puntamba Raipur

*Khapollia Satna

Barsi Uliain

Nanded Ambikapur

Manipur Itarsi

Imphal Bhind

Madhya Pradesh Datia

Burhanpur Durg

Jeora Morar

Bhoeal Jabalpur

Dewas Morena

Bhilai Rewa

Hoshangabad Sahora

Khandwa Vidisha

Raigarh Jagdalpur

Sagar Mizorsm

Seoni AizwaJ Lungleh

* Katna Nags/and

Ohamtari Dimapur

Mhow Kohima 299 Wllten AnswetS APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 300

Orissa Punjab

Angul Abohar

Bhubaneswar Jagraon

Rourkela Khanna

Baripada Moga

Cuttack Nabha

Koraput Pathankot

Jaypore Phagwara

Phulbani Rajpura

Behrampur(Ganjam) Rayya

Mancheswar Sahnewal

Sunabeda Amritsar

Chatrapur (Ganjam) Chhaharata

Chowdar Bhatinda

Puri Faridkot

Jharsagada Ferozpur

Sundergarh Hoshiarpur

Bhadrak Jalandhar

Paradweep Kapurthala

Balasore ludhiana

Dhenkanal Patiala

Jagatpur Sangrur

Sambalpur *Gurdaspur

Keonjhar Mohali 301 Wrtten Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) wrtten AnswelS 302

Fazib Ami

Rajasthan Aruppukottai

Attur

Avinashi

Bhavani

BharatpUr Bodinayakkanur

Chid am baram

~r Chinglepur

Chinnalapatti

Jodhpur harapuram

Mandore Gopichettipalayam

'.,. Kotah Gummudipoondi

Nagaur Hosur

Palimarwar Hosur Sipcot

Sriganganagar Kalpakkam

Udaipur Kangeyam

Bundi Kanyakumari

S,1cJcim Karaikudi

Gangtok Karur

Tamil Nadu Kodaikanal

Aduthurai Kovilpatti

Ambasamudram Kulitalai

Ambur Kumbakonam

Arkonam Kuzihithurai 303 Written Answers APRIL 11,1989 Written Answers 304

Mahabalipuram Sankaridur

Mannargudi Sathyamangalam

Maraimalai Nagar Sattur

Mettupalayam Shencottah

Kusiri Sirkali

Myladuthurai Sivakasi

Nagapattinam Simanur

Namkkal Srivilliputtur

Nellikuppam Tankasi

Neyueli Theni

PaJladam Thirumangalam

Panruti Tindivanam

Papanasam Tiruchengode

Paramakudi Tiruppur

Perundurai Tiruttani

Pollachi Tiruvannamalai

Ponneri Tiruvarur

Rajapalayam Tiruvellore

Rameswaram Udmplet

Ranipet Uthukuli

Raniper Sipcot Volliyoor

Melvisharam Valparai

Raaipuram Vaniyambadi

Sankarankoil Vellakoil 305 Written Answers CHAITRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 306

ViUupuram Trichy

Co;mbatore Manachanallur

Kurichi Somarsamppetta

Madukkarai Srirangam

Perianakonipalayam Tiruparaithurai

Sulur Tlruverumbur

Bharmapuri Vellore

Dindigul Tuticorin

Erode Tuticorin Post Trust

Kancheepuram Virudhunagar

Madras *Annur

Madurai Devakottai

Nagamalaipudukottai Kottalam

Otthakkadai Melur

Silaiman Nanguneri

Thirunagar Pal ani

Nagarcoil Shankarnagar

Ooty Vallam

Pudukottai Tripura

Ramanathapuram Agartala

Salem * Radhakishorepur

Sivagangai Uttar Pradesh

Thanjavur Bhadohi

Tiruneveli Gopiganj

Palayamkotia Hapur 307 Written AnSW8l'S APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 308

Kosikalan Faizabad

Malihabad Fatehpur

Modinagar Ghazibad

Mugalsarai Gorakhpur

Mussorie Jaunpur

Noida Kanpur

Roorkee Lakhimpur-Kheri

Shikohabad Lucknow

Surajpur Mainpuri

Tundla Mathura

Ujhani Meerut

Agra Mirzapur

Aligarh Moradabad

Allahabad Muzaffarnagar

Naini Nainital

Almora Orai

Badaun Pauri

Bareilly Pilibhit

Basti Pithoragarh

Bijnore Pratapgarh

Bulandshahar Raebareli

Dehradun Rampur

Etha Saharanpur

Etawah Shajahanpur 309 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Writt9n AnsW81S 310

Sitapur Neamatpur

sultanpur Raniganj

Unnao Rupnarainpur

Varanasi Sainthia

Deoband Siliguri

Banda Tribeni

Baroat Burdwar.

Ghazipur Chinsura

Khamaria Calcutta

Khurja Alipore

laJitpur Barasat

WestBengaJ Budge .. Budge

Asansol Howrah

Bagdogra Kalyani

Bahula Uluberia

Barakar Coochbehar

Bhatpara Darjeeling

Bolepur Krishnagar

Burnpur Maida

Diamond Harbour Midnapur

Durgapur Purulia

Haldia Suri

Jamuriahat Alipurduar Kalimpong

Khargpur Falta 311 Wrhtsn Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 312

Union Territories *Kariamanakam

Delhi Portablair

Chandigarh Silvasa

pondicherry Kavarathy

Yenam Daman

Kaikal Minicoy

STATEMENT-III

S.F. T. System -State-wise

51. No. Name of the State Number of systems installed

2 3

1. Andhra Pradesh 1

2. Assam

3. Haryana

4. Himachal Pradesh

5. Jammu & Kashmir

6. Marlhya Pradesh 4

7. Meghalaya (Shillong)

8. Orissa

9. Punjab

10. Tamilnadu

11. Uttar Pradesh 2

12. West Bengal 1

Total 16 313 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 19~1 (SAKA) Written Answers 314

51A1EMEN1-1V

Fo/Iowing District Headquarters are still having CBNM changes and are programmed to be automatised by the end of 7th plan.

Name of State Name of District Headquarter

1 2

U.P. 1. Chamoli

.2. Fatehpur

3. Pauri

4. Utterkashi

J & K 1. Kargil

2. Pulwama.

3. Leh.

4. Rajauri

Bihar 1. Aurangabad

2. Godda

3. Gopalganj

4. Jphanabad

5. Lohnrdaga

6. Madhepura

7. Khegria

8. Sahebganj

9. Gumla.

M.P. 1. Panna

2. Rajgarh

3. Raisen 315 Wnlten Answets APRILl1.1989 Wriltsn Answ91'5 316

1 2

Meghalaya 1. William Nagar

Nagaland 1. Wokha

2. Zonhcboto

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Opening of Extra Departmental Branch (b) The number of new Post Offices Post Offices sanctioned during the period 1.4.1988 to 31.3.1989 is as follows: 5687. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- Branch Post Offices - 2,476 TIONS be pleased to state: Sub Post Offices - 72 (a) whether Government had decided to open 3,000 new Extra Departmental Information as to the number of new post Branch Post Offices in the rural areas during offices actually opened up to 31.3.1989 is 1988-89; being ascertained and will be laid on the Table of the House. (b) if so, the number of Post Offices Names of new post offices 'sanctioned sanctioned and those actually opened upto in Himachal Pradesh are indicated in the 31 March, 1989 alongwith the names of the statement below. places in Himachal Pradesh, district-wise; (c) The posts required for the new post (c) the reasons for delay in the clear- offices are created after obtaining relaxation ance of the proposals for opening of such of the Ministry of Finance from the extant, Post Offices; and ban orders. This additional requirement also adds to the time required for completing the (d) the steps taken to ensure that the formalities. targets set for the Seventh Plan are achieved? (d) The targ9t set for Annual Plan 1989- 90 duty takas into account the overall Sev- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE enth Plan target and subject to adequate MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI number of proposals being received from GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) It was pro- the Circles and required clearance being posed to open 2,900 branch offices in rural obtained from the Ministry of Finance, the areas and 100 Departmental Sub Offices Annual Plan Target is expected to be during 1988-89. achieved. STATEMENT

Annual Plan 1988-89

Post Office Sanction9d for Himachal Pradesh

A' Branch Post OffICB

51. Name of the Village Distrid No.

1 2 3

1. Bela Hamirpur

2. Jangal Ropa -do - 321 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 322

1 2 3

3. Chamned 3/4 - do-

4. Shamirpur - do-

5. Chabutra - do-

6. Andora Una

7. Kheda Solan

8. Barog - do-

9. Hanuman Barog - do-

10. Sewra Chandi - do-

11. Maloun - do-

12. Matuli - do-

13. Goljamala - do-

14. Marda Chamba

15. Piura - do-

16. Katla Bilaspur

17. Saikharsi -do -

18. Marikatha - do-

19. Baloh - do-

20. Bater Nichli - do-

21. Gandhalwin - do-

22. Bhapsal - do-

23. Malangar Una

24. lamlchri - do-

25. A;oli -do- 323 WriCt." AnSW91S APRIL 11. 1989 WhIten AnsIM'S 324

1 2 3

26. Luharli -do-

27. Behdala -do -

28. Satother -do -

29. Dharampur -do-

30. Bhatoli -do -

31. Nangalkalan - do-

32. Chhottan -do -

33. Dogh -do -

34. Bohru -do -

35. Daruhi Hamirpur

36. Gawal Pather - do-

37. Zeoli Devi - do-

38. Patlander -do -

39. Janali -do -

40. ChaJlon - do-

41. Kaloor - do-

42. Jassai - do-

43. Thana Shimla

44. Revag - do-

45. Jadu Shilal -do -

46. Kamand Kullu

47. Karshaigad -do - 325 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnSWBI5 326

1 2 3

48. Bekhnaon - do-

49. Bradha -do -

50. Mani Mandi

51. Sakroha - do-

52. Doundhi - do-

53. Bhambla - do-

54. Dadoli Kangra

55. Ch and rot - do-

56. Thakurdwara - do-

57. Gathutar - do-

58. Matwa - do-

59. Maira - do-

60. Bangoli - do-

61. Jhakara - do-

62. Bhator - do-

63. Oasali - do-

64. Haler - do-

65. Balol - do-

66. Kaied - do-

67. Bhangwar - do-

68. Bhatern - do-

69. Ustehar - do-

70. Salah - do- 327 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 328

1 2 3

71. Palanchaklu Kangra

72. Kharat - do-

7'2-. Oegh - do-

74. Bhadror - do-

75. Aria - do-

76. Dhoran - do-

77. Purner - do -

78. Jandpur - do -

79. Jhlklibheth - do-

80. Mungal - do-

81. Pandtehar - do-

82 Jharundi - do -

83. Jagrup Nagar - do -

84. Pandpar - do -

85. Har.gjo!1 - do -

86. ~Isalj Kangra

87. Gagwal - do -

88. Salota - do-

: i ,~ ; ! - do -

~h.) . t ~r~~~ ~l , ;·; - do -

91. Duhav - do -

- ril) • Written Answers 21, 1911 329 CHAITRA (SAKA) Written Answers 330

1 2 3

94. Fatehar • do-

95. Gharam Bilaspur

96. Malhot • do-

97. Sain Mandi

98. Dabhota Solan

99. Lakhanoo Bilaspur

100. Rakkar CJony, Una Una

101. Ghangret - do-

102. Jarot Kangra

B. Sub Post Offices

103. Khaloni Shimla

104. Chamera Hydel Project, Kheri Chamba

Installation of Public Call OUices under THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MUlti Access Rural Relay System Is M!NISTRY OF COMMUNICA nONS (SHRI Hlmachal Pradesh GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Till March 1989, no MARR systems have been 5688. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PAR- installed in Hamirpur District of Himachal ASHAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA· Pradesh. The delay in installation was due to TIONS be pleased to state: late supply of Antennae by the manufac- turer. However, efforts are being made for (a) the names of the places in Hamirpur early supply of these Antennae so that they district of Himachal Pradesh where under can be installed at the earliest. the Multi Access Rural Relay system have actually been installed till 31 March, 1989 Revival of Scooters India Limited and the dale of installation in each case; and

(b) the likely date for the installation of 5689. SHRJ Y.S. MAHAJAN: each one of the remaining PCOs under OR. B.L. SHAILESH: MARRS and reasons for delay in installing them by the targeted date i.e 31 March. Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be 1989? pleased to state: 331 Written AnswSfS APRIL 11,1989 Written AnsW8IS 332

(a) whether the R.C. Dutt Committee for (c) if so, whether Union Government the revivat of the Scooters India Limited has propose to issue instructions to Delhi Ad- submitted its report; ministration to allot these plots immediately; and (b) if so, whether Govemment have taken any decision on the report; (d) if so, when and if not, the reasons therefor? (c) the steps taken or proposed to be taken by Government for rehabilitation of the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Scooters India Limited; and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MIN ISTRY OF INDUS- (d) whether GovemmiJnt's proposaf to TRY (StiRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes, sell this unit to Bajaj Auto has been dropped SiL or is still under cc:ms ide ratio n ? (b) According to Delhi Administration, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI plots have not been allotted so far. It was J. VENGAL RAO): (a) A copy of the "interim made clear in the advertisement that no report" of the committee constituted by Na- interest will be paid on any of the deposits. tional Confederation of Officers' Association of Central Public Sector Undertakings under (c) and (d). The Delhi Administration is the chairmanship of Shri R.C. Dutt was re· considering a proposal to make allotment ceived by Government in August, 1988. draw 01 lots.

(b) to (d). Govemment have carefully [English) considered various available options before arriving at the decision to transferthe agreed World Bank Assistance to ONGC assets and equivalent liabilities of the Lucknow unit to Scooters India Ltd. to Bajaj 5691. SHRI S.B. SIDNAL: Auto Ltd. to Bajaj Auto Ltd. for rejuvenation SHRt SHANTILAL PATEL: of this unit. Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND [ Translation] NATURAL GAS be pleased to state:

Allotment of Industrial Plots In Patpar- (a) whether the World Bank has agreed ganj Deihl to provide financial assistance for three major projects of the Oil and Natural Gas 5690. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR Commission during the Eighth Plan period; TRIPATHI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (b) if so, the details thereof; and

(a) whether Delhi Administration had (c) when these projects are likely to be invited applications in April·May last year to undertaken? allot industrial plots in Patparganj, Delhi;

\ THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) whether the said plots have not MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- been allotted so far and the interest on the RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) to (c). amount deposited by the applicants is also World Bank assistance at present is avail- not being given to them; able for four on-going projects of ONGe, WrlIten Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnSwefS 334 namely, Krishna.-Godavari Exploration Proj- Mandai it falls in hexagon where teiacom. ect. South Bassein Gas Development Proj- facility already exist at village Byra ect, Cambay Basin Petroleum Project and Samudram. Another telecom. facility in the Western Gas Development. Out of these same hexagon on loss basis is not permis- two projects; Cambay Basin Petroleum sible at present. However, a facility at the Project and Western Gas Oevelopment will above Mandai will be considered after all the spill over to the 8th Plan period. Besides hexagons in'the Cirde have been provided these on-going projects, no other project has wkh at least one telecom facility. been posed to the World Bank for assis- tance. Crisis In Telugu Film Industry

Telephone FacilHy In Anantapur District 5693. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- (A.P.) WARARAO: SHAI B.B. RAMAIAH: 5692. SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- Will the Minister of INFORMATION TIONS be pleased to state: AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state:

(a) the mandals in Anantapur district of (a) whether Government are aware of Andhra Pradesh yet to be provided with the serious crisis being faced by the Telugu telephone facility; film industry including video piracy; and

(b) the amount required to provide (b) if so, the steps being taken to help telephone facility in all these mandals; the Telugu film industry to revive itself?

(c) the steps being contemplated to THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- provide telephone facility in all Mandai TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- Headquarters in Anantapur district; and FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) The Govern- (d) when these are likely to be provided ment is not aware of serious crisis, if any, with telephone facility? being faced specifically by the Telugu Film Industry. However, the Ministry of Informa- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tion & Broadcasting have received many MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI representations from various film industry GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Only Brahma organisations including Andhra Pradesh Samudram Mandai in Anantapur District is Film Chamber of Commerce regarding reso- yet to be provided with telephone facility. All lution of various problems including video other Mandals have already been covered. piracy faced by them. The problems referred to by these organisations do not specifically (b) to (d). As per the present policy of relate to Telugu Film Industry but concern the Department it is planned to provide tele- film industry as a whole. com. facility on fully subsidised basis within about 5 kms of every inhabited place. For (b) With a view to studying the problems this purpose country has been divided into of film industry as a whole and making suit- hexagons of 5 kms side each and a principal able recommendations to CenterlState village preferably a Panchayat Headquar- Governments for resolving these problems, ters in it is earmarked for providing telecom. the Ministry of Information & Broadcasting facility. As regards Brahma Samudram announced constitution of a Committee on 335 Written Answers APRil 11, 1989 Written AnSW8l$ 336

14.2.89. A copy of this Ministry's Order No. sition of the Committee and the terms of 1OS/19188-F (F) dated 14.2.89 amended reference is given in the Statements I and II from time to time indicating inter alia compo- below. STATEMENT I

With a view to studying the problems of film industry and making suitable recommen- dations to CentralISt ate Governments for resolving these problems, the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, hereby constitute a Committee with the following Constitution:

1. Seaetary, Ministry of Information and Broadcasting Chairman (S.bd G.K. Arora)

2. President. Film Federation of India Bombay Member (Shri A. Ramesh Prasad)

3. President. All India Film Producers Council, Bombay Member (Shri Vijay Anand)

4. President. Sooth Indian Film Chamber of Commerce. Member Madras (Shri R.lakshman)

5. President. Eastern India Motion Picture Association Member (Shri S.l. Jalan)

6. Additional Secretary & Financial Adviser. Ministry of Member Information and Broadcasting (Shri P.K. Sarkar)

7. Department of Revenue, Ministry of Finance Member (Shri J.B. Reddy, Additional Secretary)

8. Managing Director, National Film Development Member Corporation (Smt. Malati Tamboy Vaidya)

9. Joint Secretary (Broadcasting) Ministry of Information Member & Broadcasting (Shri R.e. Sinha)

10. Department of Culture, Ministry of Human Resource Member Development (Shri Manmohan Singh, Joint Secretary)

11. Department of Education, Ministry of Human Resource Member Development (Shri J.D. Gupta, Joint Secretary)

12. Department of Banking. Ministry of Finance Member (Shri M.e. Satyawadi, Joint Secretary)

13. Department of Industrial Development Ministry of Member Industry (Shri N.K. Sabharwal, Joint Secretary) 337 CHAITRA 21·,1911 (SAKA) Written AnswBIS 338

14. Department of Telecommunications Ministry of Member Communications (Shri KS.K. Moorthy, Deputy Director General)

15. Special Commissioner & Secretary Information & Member Tourism Department Government of Tamil Nadu (Shri C. N. Ramdas)

16. Commissioner and Secretary Cultural Affairs Department, Member Government of Kerala (Shri D. Babu Paul)

17. Secretary, Information and Cultural Affairs Department, Member Government of West Bengal (Shri D. Bhattacharya)

18. Secretary, Cultural Affairs Department, Government of Member Punjab (Smt. Daljeet Jaijee)

19. Secretary, Finance Department Government of Member Maharashtra (Shri Vellur; Narayan)

20. A Representative of the Government of Andhra Pradesh Member

21. Shri S.B. Mishra, Secretary, Department of Industries Member Govemment of Orissa.

22. Special Secretary, Finance Department, Government Member of Rajasthan (Shri S.P. Gupta)

23. Secretary, Entertainment Tax Government of Uttar Member Pradesh (Shri Nripendra Misra)

24. Joint Secretary (Films) Ministry of Information and Member and Broadcasting (Shri B.K. Zutshi) Secretary

2. The terms of references of the impact of taxation at the Central Committee will be: and State levels on the econom- ices of film industry. and anti-piracy To study the problems faced by film taws and their implementation, industry and to make recommen- royalty rates for telecast of feature dations to the Government of India films from Doordarshan and review and State Governments for resolv- of scheme of compulsory exhibi- ing issues relevant to the growth of tion of short films in cinema the- film industry. The main areas of the atres. study will be the status of the indus- try, financing of film production, The Committee will also be free to marketing and distribution of films, study and make recommendations 339 Writen Mswsrs APAll11. ,1989 Wrllten AnsWtW'S 340

in regard to any other relevant or view to studying the problems of film industry related issue. and making suitable recommendations to CentrallState Governments for resolving 3. The Committee may set up Sub- these problems. a representative of the Groups where required and co-opt Govemment of Kamataka is also nominated members. if necessary, provide as a member on the aforesaid Committee. necessary information and techni- cal expertise. Funds by R.E.C. for Electricity Connec- tions for Pump Sets In Andhra Pradesh 4. The Committee may consult media experts and other sections of in- 5694. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- formed opinion. WARA RAO: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: 5. The Committee will have its head- quarters at New Delhi and meet as (a) thp funds allotted by the Rural often as considered necessary. but Electrification Corporation to the Andhra may visit such other places in the Pradesh State Electricity Board for providing country as considered necessary. electricity connections to the agricultural pump sets during 1987-88, 1988-89 and 6. The Committee will submit its re- 1989-90; port as soon as possible but within a period of six months from the date (b) whether the Andhra Pradesh State of the first meeting. Electricity Board has asked for more funds to clear the pending- applications for electricity 7. The Committee will devise its own connections; work procedure. (c) if so, the details thereof and the 8. Non-official members will be en- action taken thereon; and titled to travelling and daily allow- ance in accordance with the Minis- (d) if not, the reasons therefor? try of Finance (Department of Expenditure) Office Memorandum No. SI2SIE.IV/S9 dated 5th Sep- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE tember, 1960 as amended from DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- time to time. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI): (a) The allocation made by the Planning STAYEMENT II Commission and actual disbursement by Rural Electrification Corporation to Andhra In continuation of this Ministry'S Order Pradesh State Electricity Board for the years of even number dated 14th February, 1989 1987-88, 1988-89 and allocation ior 1989- regarding constitution of a committee with a 90 are as under: 341 Wnlten AnSMH'S CHAITRA 21 t 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 342

(Rs ..in /akhs)

programms 1987-88 1988-89 1989-90 Allocation Disbur- Allocation Disbur- Allocation (Planning sement (Planning sement (Planning Commiss- Commiss- (upto Commission) ion) ion} MlJICh,89) (prov.)

1 2 3 4 5 6

Normal 1006 1113 1100 755 857

Minimum Needs 105 34 Programme

Special Project 3248 3472 2665 1720 Agriculture Outstanding

Inv. Loan 563 1416

Total 4254 5253 3765 3925 857

• Under finalisation.

(b) to (d). It would be observed from the THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI above table that Rural Electrification Corpo- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) This information is not ration has been disbursing funds to the available with this Ministry. Board over and above the allocation made by the Planning Commission to the extent (b) and (c). The Government does not feasible and justified. propose to set up and Amino Acids manufac- turing plant at Tirupathi. Setting up of Amino Acids Manufactur- Ing Plant at Tlrupathl Consumption of Plastics

5695. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES- 5696. SHR1MATI BASAVARAJFS- WARA RAO: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY WARI: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be be pleased to state: pleased to state:

(a) whether human hair is available in (a) the level of achievement of current large qlJantities at Tirupathi in Andhra consumption of various plastics in the coun- Pradesh; try; and

(b) if so, whether Government propose (b) the level of achievements during the to set up and Amino Acids manufacturing last three years? plant at Twupathi; and THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI (c) if so, the details thereof? J. VENGALRAO): (a) and (b). Thedomestic 343 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 344 availability of plastic raw materials is not State. 2 other hydel schemes aggregating adequate to meet the indigenous demand in 18 MW are in the process of techno-eco- full and around haH of their overall require- nomic appraisal in the Central Electricity ment has to be met through imports. The Authority. 4 hydel schemes with a total import of plastic raw materials is allowed on capacity of 826 MW have been returned to OGL. Though precise figures of imports are the State Govemment for re-submission not available, the apparent consumption of aftertaking into account the comments of the plastic raw materials during the last 3 year Central Electricity Authority. has been approximately as follows:

Year Apparent consumption of ThermallHydel Plants Pending Clear- plastic raw materials ance (tonnes) 5698. SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: Vv'ill 1986-87 5,20,000 the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state "

1987-88 5,60,000 (a) the details of the project reports for setting up thermal/hydel power plants pend· 1988-89 6,20,000 ing clearance with Union Government, State-wise; Clearance to Hyde. Project. In Karna- taka (b) when these project reports were received by Government; 5697. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJES- WARI: Will the Minister of ENERGY be (c) the reasons for delay in clearing pleased to state: these projects; and

(a) whether some hydel projects in (d) when these projects are likely to be Karnataka involving a combined total capac- cleared? ity of 2680 MW have been cleared by Union Government; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (b) if not, the reasons therefor; and TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (a) aod (b). The details are given in Hw (c) the time by which these will be Statement below. cleared by Union Government?

(c) and (d). While all efforts are made to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE expedite the clearance of power projects, DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- approval of power projects depends upon TRY OF ENERGY (SHAI KAlPNATH RAt): several factors including comprehensive- (a) to (c). The instalted generating capacity ness of projed reports, expeditious re- of hydro power stations already in operation sponse of the project authorities to various in Karnataka is 2109 MW. 7 hydro-electric comments/observations of the Central Elec· projects aggregating 1018 MW have been tricity Authority/Central Water Commission. sanctioned and are under execution in the availability of various inputs clearances CHAlTRA21,1911 (sAkA) Written AM.,. 346 such as fuel availability, water availability. ment to the projects in terms of aIJocation of environment and forest clearance, clear- funds. resolution of inter-state disputes in ance from State PoUution Control Board and sharing of water resources. As such, it is not National Airports Authority, etc. and the re1a- feasible t~ indicate the time frame for clear- tive priority accorded by the State Gowrn- ance of these projects. 3'7 WrlIt.n Answetw APRil 11, 1989 348

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Rural Public Call Offices In taken in the matter; and ShahJahanpur District (U.P.) (c) if not, the number of calls made by 5699. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: each rural Public Call Office in the last three SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA: months?

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE TIONS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. (a) whether most of the rural Public Call (b) Does not arise. Offices in Shahjahanpur district have been out of order for most of the time during the (c) There are 61 Rural Public Call last two years; Offices in Shahjahanpur district. No. of calls booked from each Public call office during (b) if so, the reasons therefor and action the last 3 months is as under:

S.No. Name of Station No. of trunk calls booked

1 2 3

1. Jaitipur 38

2. Khera Bhajhera 15

.From other 59 long distance public tele- (c) whether Punjab Government had phones no calls were booked, though these constituted a high power committee in April, have been in working order. 1988 to submit a report in this regard;

[ Translation] (d) if so, whether the report of the committee has since been received; Small scale sick units In Punjab (e) if so, the salient features thereof; 5700. SHRI BALWANT SINGH RA- and MOOWAlIA: SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI: (f) the recommendations of the commit- tee that have been implemented by Govern- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be ment so far? pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THe (a) whether the number of sick units in DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL· small scale sector has been constantly in- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- creasing in Punjab during the last several TRY (SHRI U. ARUNACHAlAM): (a) and years; (b). Data on sick industrial units in the coun- try assisted by banks are collected by the (b) if so, the number of such sick units Reserve Bank of India. As per the latest during 1986-87, 1987-88 and 1988-89, information, the total number of sick small separately; scale industrial units in Punjab on the dates 379 Wrinsn AnsWMS APRIL 11 t 1989 Written AnSWSfS 380 mentioned below are as follows: (b) and (c). A large number of telephone exchanges in Mahboob Nagar Distrid have As at the 8nd of Total number of not been provided with STD facility due to sick 551 units limitation of material and financial re- sources. However Gadwal, Jadcherla and December' 85 1345 Shadnagar telephone exchanges in Mahboob Nagar district are planned for December'86 1830 provision of SrD facility during 1989-90.

June'87 1834 Assistance given to Small Newspapers In A.P. (c) The Government of Punjab has not constituted any high powered oommittee on 5702. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the its own regarding sickness in the small scale Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- sector. CASTING be pleased to state:

(d) to (f). Does not arise. (a) the details of financial and other assistance provided by Union Government [English] to small newspapers in Andhra Pradesh during the last six months; Telephone Exchanges with S.T.D. facility in Mahboob Nagar district of (b) the details of assistance utilised by Andhra Pradesh these newspapers in the field of agriculture and for development of rural poor; and 5701. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased (c) whether Government propose to to state: give more help to these newspapers; if so, the details thereof? (a) the details of telephone exchanges in Mahboob Nagar district of Andhra Pradesh provided with STD facility; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (b) the detai's of telephonn exchanges FORMATION AND BROADCASTING which have not been provided with STD (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) to (c). The facility so far and reasons therefor; and Government do not maintain a record of information of the type sought for in the Question. However, a statement showing (c) when all the telephone exchanges in the facilities being provided to small and Mahboob Nagar district will be provided with medium newspapers by Ministry of Informa- STD facility? tion and Broadcasting is given below. It may be added that no information is oollected and kept on the different types ·of assistance THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE available to newspapers in various States MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt and the utilisation of assistance by newspa- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Mahboob pers. Apart from the ooncessions and facili- Nagar Telephone Exchange in Mahboob ties enumerated in the annexed statement, Nagar District of Andhra Pradesh has been this Ministry does not give any assistance to provided with STO facility. any category of newspapers. 381 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answers 382

STATEMENT which enables representatives of the press to have first-hand knowledge of the develop- FaCl1ities extended to Small and Medium mental activity going on in different parts of Newspapers by various media units of this the country. Representatives of different Ministry papers are taken at frequent intervals to selected projects for this type of special I. Facilities extended by Press Infor- study. Languages and small ~nd medium mation Bureau papers get representation in these con- duded tours. Newspapers: The Press Information Bu- reau (PIB), in pursuance of its policy of Accreditation: Accreditation rules have providing more and more services to the been liberalised to extend greater facilities to small and medium newspapers, gives a small and medium papers. As per rules, only number of special facilities to them. Besides newspapers with a circulation of over 5,000 making available its general services such copies are eligible for accreditation. In order, as news releases and features it has been however, to assist the smaller papers, this supplying other types of news services such condition has been relaxed and now two or as ebonoid blocks, charbas (for Urdu papers more small newspapers can jointly seek only) and illustrated photo features. accreditation for a common correspondent. The rules also provide that special consid- News Services: A number of services tai- eration may be shown to newspapers de- lored to the needs of small papers have b~en voted to science and technology and to introduced. In-depth stories written in simple those published from hilly or backward ar- and capsule form covering developments in eas, or from regions under-developed in various spheres such as science, economic terms of information and communication. growth, agriculture, health and family wel- The Bureau's mailing list now contains a fare are prepared and supplied to them in all large number of small and medium newspa- major languages of the country. pers as well as correspondents accredited on their behalf. Photo Services: The Bureau also supplies illustrated photo features and ebonoid The above facilities are extended to lan- blocks to small papers. The Charba services guage newspapers as well. which consist of Zinc block for use in Urdu Litho Print, have become quite popular. II. Facilities extended by Directorate of Advertising and Visual Publicity Special Services Cell: The Bureau has set up a special service cell at the headquarters (i) A newspaper with a minimum paid with representatives in Bombay, Calcutta, circulation of 1,000 copies now becomes Madras. The Cell is entrusted with the task of eligible for securing Government advertise- preparing field based development stories ments as against the minimum circulation of and making them available to the language 2,000 copies prescribed earlier; newspapers. The emphasis is on providing locally relevant photographs, cartographs (ii) Papers/periodicals published in and ebonoid blocks. backward, remote, tribal areas or in tribal languages and meant primarily for tribal Press Parties: Organising press parties to readers are made eligible for securing Gov- various Central Government projects is ernment advertisements if their minimum another important activity of the Bureau paid circulation is 500 copies. This conces- 383 Written AnswBlS APRil 11. 1989 Written Answers 384 sion is also available to paperslperiodicals on quarterty basis so that the newspapers do published from J & K State. not face difficulties in regard to payment. and storage. etc. However, newspapers with an (iii) Newspaperslperiodicals with an annual entitlement of 50 MTs or below are uninterrupted publication of four months given the option to take the entire quantity in now become eligible for securing Govern- one instalment or more. ment advertisements as against the period of six months provided in earlier Advertising (v) 25% of imported newsprint is given Policy. from STC's buffer stock. Newspapers with an annual entitlement of 50 MTs or below are (iv) The standard print area required for given the option to take the entire quantity or eligibility has also been lowered from 1260 part of quantity from buffer stock. SC em to 760 SCcm for Weeklies. Fortnight- lies. and from 1200 SCcm to 960 SCcm for (vi) Normally the performance certifi- Monthlies and other publications. No mini- cate of a newspaper is required to be signed mum print area has been prescribed for the by a Chartered Accountant. However, news- papers published in backward, border and papers with a circulation of 2000 copies or remote areas or in tribal areas or primarily below are exempted from this requirement. meant for tribal readers. Payment of Fixed Deposit Amounts by (v) Newspapers/periodicals with a cir- Companies culation of 2000 copies have been ex- empted from submission of C.A. certificate. 5703. SHRI M. V. CHAN- DRASEKHARA MURTHY: Will the Minister (vi) In the matter of advertisement rates of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: the DAVP rate structure provides an inbuilt weightage for small and medium pa~rs. (a) whether the Department of Com- pany Affairs has issued several instructions III. Facilities extended by Registrar of to various companies since December, Newspapers for India (1988-89) 1988 for payments of fixed deposit amounts withheld by them to the depositors within a (i) Ragular newspapers with an annual specified period; entitlement of 200 MT s of newsprint are given the option to take imported newsprint (b) if so, the facts and details thereof to 100 per cent extent. which was generally and if not, the reasons therefor; cheaper than the indigenous newsprint. (c) whether the companies have still (ii) Small newspapers are not required been violating these instructions; and to pay any customs duty on the imported newsprint, which is chargeable at the rate of (d) if so, the reasons therefor and the Rs. 550 PMT. action proposed to be taken for protecting the interest of small depositors/investing (iii) Newspapers in medium category public? are required to pay customs duty at the rate of Rs. 275/- as against chargeable rate of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE As. 5501· PMT. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (iv) Newsprint authorisations are issued TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Yes 385 Written Answers CHAfTRA 21,1911 (SAKA) Written AnSW8f'S 386

Sir. On the basis of complaints made by (b) and (c). The target for energy gen- depositors. the companies concerned are, eration in the country during 1988-89 was by and large, advised to refund deposits 226.5 BU against which the actual achieve- remaining unpaid after due date of maturity. ment was 220.9 BU.

(b) The compilation of details of such (d) The actual generation during 1988- depositors and companies may not be 89 was below the target on account of less commensurate with the results likely to be thermal generation, due to low system achieved. demand, particularly in the agricultural sec- tor, because of exceptionally good rains (c) and (d). Some companies have during the ·monsoon period. repaid the deposits. The amended provi- sions of Section 58A of the Companies Ad, (8) The energy generation target set for 1956, as amended by the Companies the year 1989-90 is 251.3 BU. (Amendment) Act, 1988. seek to protect the interest of depositors against the defaulting A.I.R. Coverage In Seventh Plan companies. after the said provisions are brought into force. 5705. SHRI VAKKOM PU- RUSHOTHAMAN: Will the Minist. of IN- Power Generation capacity FORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: 5704. SHRI VAKKOM PU- RUSHOTHAMAN: Will the Minister of (a) the target set for achieving coverage ENERGY be pleased to state: by All India Radio throughout the country by the end of the Seventh Plan; (a) the total annual power generation capacity of the various power projects in the (b) the details of radio stations to be set country; up in the country during the remaining part of the Seventh Pian; and (b) the target set for power generation for the. year 1988-89; (c) the coverage expected to be achieved on commissioning of these sta- (c) the actual power generated during tions? the year; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- (d) whether th~ power generation TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER AND IN- achieved is below the target and if so, the FORMATION AND BROADCASTING reasons for the shortfall; and (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAn: (a) AIR's 7th Plan Schemes has aimed at a target to ext~nd (e) the target set for power generation radio coverage to 97.5% of the population of for 1989-90? the country and 91 % of the area.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- . (b) The details of new radio stations that TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAl-PNATH RAI): would be set up in the country and powers of (a) The power generating capacity from existing transmitters that would be raised various projects in the country as on during the remaining part of the 7th Plan are 31.3.1989 was about 59092.1 MW. given in the statement below. 387 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 388

(c) On commissioning of these proj- 7. Cannanore eds, radio coverage is expected to be avail- able to 96% of population and 88% of the 8. Tirupathi are~n the country. This is due to the reason that some of the 7th Plan schemes will spill 9. Raichur over to the 8th Pian. 10. Anantapur STATEMENT 11. Cochin A. New Radio Stations that are expected to be commissioned 12. Mareapuram by the end of Seventh Plan 13. Mereara North Zone East Zone 1. Alwar 1. Jamshedpur 2. Kathua 2. 8aripada 3. Bhatinda 3. Jorhat 4. Patiala 4. Puma, 5. Banswara 5. Haflong 6. Jhalawar 6. Belonia 7. Nagaur 7. Kailashahr 8. Sawai Madhopur 8. Murshidabad 9. Kasauli 9. Bolangir 10. Obra 10. Singhbhum South Zone 11. Sasaram 1. Warangal West Zone 2. Nizamabad

3. Chitradurga .1. Beed

4. Hassan 2. Betul

5. Hospet 3. Chindwapa

6. Kurnool 4. Khandwa 389 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Answets 390

5. Shahdol 12. Akola

6. Shivpuri 13. Bilaspur

7. Ahmednagar 14. Dhule

8. Raigarh 15. Satara

9. Balaghat 16. Nanded

10. Godhra 17. Chandrapur

11. Yeotmal 18. Guna

B. Medium wave transmitters upgradation schemes to be commissioned by the end of the Sf!.Venth Plan

Station From To

1. Suratgarh 20KW 300KW

2. Jammu SOKW 300KW

3. Jalandhar SOKW 300KW

4. Bangalore SOKW 200KW

S. Ahmedabad SOKW 200KW

6. Vijayawada 20KW 100KW

7. Jabalpur 20KW 200KW

8. Calcutta SOKW 100KW

9. Jeypore 20KW 100KW

10. Varanasi 20KW 100KW

[ Translation] (a) whether there is a proposal to im- prove telecommunication services in the Telecommunication Service In Rural rural areas of Ranikhet sub-division of AI- Areas of Ranfkhet SUb Division, U.P. mora District in Uttar Pradesh through a Multi Access Radio Relay system; 5706. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Willthe . Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased (b) if so. whether the work on the said to state: proposal has been started; and 391 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 392

(c) if not, the steps being taken for the country. implementing the said proposal? Opening of Petrol Pumps In Pithora- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE garh and Almora Districts, U.P. MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. 5708. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL (b) Yes, Sir. Infrastrudure is in the GAS be pleased to state: process of getting ready. Supply of equip- ment has not yet commenced. (a) whether a survey has been con- ducted to open petrol pumps at Thai, (c) Does not arise. Pithoragarh City and Dharchula in Pithora- garh distrid and Bhikiasen, Koshi and Cha- Cantr.,lnveatment Subsidy ukhutia in Almora district in Uttar Pradesh;

5707. SHRIHARISHRAWAT: Willthe (b) if so, the names of places in these Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: districts where petrol pumps are proposed to be opened and !'hen; and (a) whether some industries in U.P. have been deprived of the Central subsidy (c) if not, the reasons therefor? on the capital investment with effect from 22 September, 1988 whereas the said scheme THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE was effective till 30 September, 1988; MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) Yes, (b) whether those entrepreneurs have Sir. also been deprived of this facility who made capital investment during the period from 22 (b) In accordance with the survey con- September, 1988 to 30 September, 1988 ducted in the Civil districts of Pithoragarh and who were prom...... by the financial and Almora in U. P, two locations, namely institutions only when their plans/extension thai and Dharchula were found feasible for plans were sandioned bv the Distrid Indus- setting up of Retail Outlet dealerships. tries Centres; and These two locations were included in the oil industry's Annual Marketing Plan 1986-87 (c) if so, the .... being taken by and the selection process for these two Government to save those entrepreneurs dealerships has also been initiated; from the loss of central subsidy who made capital investment during the period from 22 (c) Does not arise in view of (b) above. September, 1988 to 30 September, 1988? U.H.F. Towers In Almora and Pithora- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE garh U.P. DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- 5709. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased The Government have decided to discon- to state: 1inue grant of Centra} Investment Subsidy for non-manufacturing activities w.e.f. (a) whether there is a proposal to raise 22.9.1988. This decision is applicable uni- the capacity of U.H.F. towers in Almora and formly to all industrially backward areas in Pithoragarh in Uttar Pradesh; and 393 Written Answers CHAITRA 21.1911 (SAKA) Written Answ91S 394

(b) if so, the time by which their capacity (b) and (c). After the Central Electricity will be raised? Authority's (CEA's) techno-economic clear- ance of power projects several other factors THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE such as availability of various inputs like fuel MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI and water, environmental & forest clear- GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) At present, ances, clearances from Pollution Control there is no proposal to increase the capacity Board & National Airports authority,.alloca- of existing UHF tower of UHF systems work- tion of funds by State Government, resolu- ing in Almora & Pithoragarh. tion of inter-State disputes and sharing of waters, determine the final start-up of the (b) Does not arise. project. Therefore, it would be incorrect to compute delay in implementation of the [English] projects.from the date of clearance by the CEA and consequently to attribute cost Gap between Demand and SUpply of escalations to such delays. Power (d) Addition of about 38,000 MW gener- 5710. PROF. K. V. THOMAS: Will the ating capacity in the Eighth Plan period. Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: optimum utilisation of installed capacity, Renovation & Modernisation of existing (a) whether the gap between the pro- power stations, reduction in transmission jected demand and supply of Power is wid- and distribution losses. efficient load man- ening as the projects are lagging behind agement and energy conservation are some schedule; of the measures being undertaken to im- prove the power situation in the country. (b) whether a number of power projects which were cleared by the Central Electricity Public Telephone Booths In Bangalore Authority, have either not started in time or City are lagging behind and if so, the details thereof; 5711. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (c) the estimated escalation in cost of pleased to state: these projects due to the delay in the im- plementation; and (a) the numberof new Public Call Office booths purchased by Bangalore Tele- (d) the steps taken to improve the phones in Bangalore city; power situation in the country? (b) the expenditure incurred for acquir- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ing these new booths; DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI): (c) the cost of each booth; (a) No, Sir. The gap between demand and supply of energy has reduced from 10.9% in 1987-88 to 7.70/0 in 1988-89 and is expected (d) the name of the company which to drop furtherto 6.8% in 1989-90. There has supplied these Public Call Office booths; also been no lagging behind the schedule. and as targetted capacity of 22,245 MW in the Seventh Plan is expected to be achieved. (9) whether quotations were called for? 395 Writt8n AnSW81S APRIL 11. 1989 Writt8n Answ8fS 396

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THe Registration for Marutl Car. and J.eps MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI In Bangalor. GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) 14 New Public 5712. SHRtV.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will Call OfflC8 booths have been purchased by the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to Bangalore Telephones during the Year state: 1988-89. (a) the number of persons registered for Maruti cars and jeeps in Bangalore city; (b) and (c). An expenditure of about Rs. 73,7001- has been incurred for acquiring (b) the number of registration. cleared by 31 January, 1989; these Public Call Office booths. Three differ- ent models have been acquired costing Rs. (c) the numbfJr of persons on the wait- 4271/-; Rs. 9600/-; and Rs. 12,858/-. each. ing list as on 31 January, 1989; and (d) when the waiting list will be cleared? (d) and (e). These booths have been acquired from Mis TECHNO INDUSTRIAL THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAl RAO): (a) The total number of COMPONENTS, Bangalore and CRAFTS- bookings received in Bangalore city for MEN ENGINEERING, Coimbatore by invit- Maruti-800 and Gypsy is as follows (net of ing tenders and quotations. cancellations ):

Total No.

Maruti-800 (1986 Bookings) 5,512

Gypsy ( 1985 Bookings) 137

(b) and (c). The total number of book- pending for the Maruti-800 as of end Janu- ings released for delivery and the number ary, 1989 in Bangalore city is as follows:

TotalNo. of Total No. of Bookings Bookings Released Pending

Maruti-800 3,225 2,287 (1986 Bookings)

All bookings for the Gypsy, received in 1985, have been released. (d) The waiting list for Maruti-800 is (b) whether Government propose to expected to be cleared by March. 1990. open new Post Offices at these places in the near future; and Opening of Post Offices at Vlvekananda Nagar and Katrlguppa In Bangalore (c) if not. the reasons therefor?

5713. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI pleased to state: GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) There is a Post Office at Katriguppa but not at Vivekananda (a) whether there is no Post Office at Nagar. Vivekananda Nagar and Katriguppa in Ban- galore; (b) I and (c). There is no proposal at 397 Written AnSW91S CHAITRA21, 1911 (SAKA) Wrhten AnswelS 398

present to open a post office at Vivekananda watches in the country is around 12-15 mil- Nagar as sufficient postal traffic has not yet lion Nos. - developed. (d) No. Sir. Setting up of HMT watch unit In Karna- taka Waiting Lists for LPG connections In Metropolitan Cities and State Capitals 5714. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to 5715. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: state: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased to state: (a) the total production of HMTwatches during 1987-88; (a) the number of persons on the wait- ing list as on 1 January. 1989 for allotment of (b) the total production of watches in the LPG connections in each of the metropolitan private sector during 1987-88; cities and the State capitals; and

(c) the demand for watches in the (b) when these waiting lists are likely to country per year; and be cleared?

(d) whether there is any proposal to set THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE up a new HMT watch unit in Karnataka? MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) The THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI information is given in the statement below. J. VENGAL RAO): (a) HMT produced 49.41 lakh watches in 1987-88. (b) Release of new LPG connections is done by the oil industry all over the country. (b) The production of watches in private including in the metropolitan cities and state sector was 1.63 million excluding small capitals. in a phased manner. under its scale sector. annual programme for enrolment of custom- ers. subject to augmentation in availability of (c) The estimated annual demand for LPG.

STATEMENT

(in lakh)

S.No. Metropolitan Cities/Capitals of Approximate number of persons States-Union Territories on the waiting list (as on 1.1.89)

1 2 3

1. Bombay 0.665

2. Calcutta 1.481

3. Delhi 4.588

4. Madr,~ 0.832 399 Writt6n Answers APRIl11 t 1989 Written AnsWfHS 400

1 2 3

5. Hyderabad 0.197

6. Itanagar 0.001

7. Oispur 0.074

8. Patna 0.139

9. Parlaii 0.039

10. GandhinagarfAhmedabad '- 0.179

11. Chandigarh 0.438

12. Shim!a 0.007

13. Srinagar 0.059

14. Jammu 0.068

15. Bangalore 0.390

16. Trivandrum 0.039

17. Bhopal 0.107

18. Imphal 0.027

"19. Shillong 0.015

20. Aizawl 0.026

21. Kohima 0.009

22. Bhubaneshwar 0.028

23. Jaipur 0.830

24.' Gangtok 0.010

25. Agartala 0.067

26. LucknoYJ 0.419

27. Port Blair 0.004 401 Written Answers CHAITRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written AnsWBIS 402

1 2 3

28. Silvassa 0.009

29. Daman 0.031

30. Lakshadweep 0.000

31. Pondicherry 0.030

Booking of Trunk Calls Target fixed for Marutl Cars

5716. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: 5717. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to pleased to state: state:

(a) whether Government are loosing (a) whether the Marut; Udyog Limited is he~vily in booking of trunk calls; targetting for one lakh units of cars per year;

(b) whether there is no regular checking (b) if so, what is the import content in and sUp8Msion; and that target;

(c) if so, the reasons therefor and the (c) whether any plan for indigenisation corrective steps taken in this regard? of the enhanced units has also been de- cided; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (d) if so, the details thereof? GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) No, Sir. De- spite expansion of STD network, revenue on THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI aocount of trunk calls has registered an J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). The Project upward trend as would be seen from below: Report of Maruti Udyog Limited envisages production capacity of one lakh vehicles per Year Revenue year by 1988-89 with a cumulative indige- nous content of 95.3% Marut; Udyog Ltd. 1986-87 300.65 Crores has a achieved a production level of 105547 (300.65 crores) vehicles in 1988-89.

1987-88 390.08 Crores (c) and (d). Maruti Udyog Ltd. has been implementing a phased manufacturing pro- 4/88 to 12/88 322.20 Crores gramme for progressive indigenisation as per capability of indigenous auto-compo- (b) Regular checking and supervision is nent industry. The cumulative indigenisation exercised at allteve's. level achieved till 31.3.89 is 86.23% for the car which is planned to go upto 920/0 by (c) Does not arise. March, 1991. 403 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 404

Mlcroproceaaor Controlled System·In to remedy the situation? Paper Industry THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 5718. SHRI BHADRESWAR TANTI: MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Some com- state: plaints have been received regarding tele- phone service in Farrukhabad District. (a) whether the paper industry has gone for the microprocessor controlled sys- (b) Necessary action has been taken tems to improve the productivity; for their redressal. The present manual tele- phone exchange at Farrukhabad is pro- (b) if so, the improvement in producHv- posed to be replaced by an automatic ex- ;ty achieved after the introduction of the change of ICP Crossbar type in the Eighth system; and Plan.

(c) the number of workmen employed in Allotment of LPG Distributorships the paper industry before and after the intro- duction of the system? 5720. SHRI SOMJIBHAI DAMOR: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE RAL GAS be pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (a) the number of LPG distributorships TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) Some established by the Indian Oil Corporation. of the paper mills in the country are contem- the Hindustan Petroleum Corporation lim- plating installation of micro-processor con- ited and the Bharat Petroleum Corporation trolled systems, which are on-line regulating Limited since 1 January. 1987, Company- device for improvement of process, quality wise; control and productivity. (b) the number of customers served by (b) and (c). Do not arise. such distributorships;

Telephone Service In Farrukhabad (c) the number of LPG connections (U.P.) allotted to the HPCl and the BPCL distribu- torships run by SCs/STs and Adivasis; 5719. SHRI KHURSHID ALAM KHAN: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (d) whether most of the distributorships pleased to state: established by the HPCL and the BPCl are running in loss; and (a) whether numerous complaints have (e) if so, the reasons therefor? been made about the unsatisfactory tele- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE phone service in Farrukhabad city (U.P.); MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- and RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) The number of LPG distributorships established (b) if so, the steps taken by Government from 1.1.87 to 31.12.88 is as under: Indian Oil Corporation limited 235 Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd. 138 Bharat Petroleum Corporation ltd. 103

Total: 476 405 Written Answers CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswBIS 406 "

(b) The effort involved in the compila- petrochemical project at Jaigad in Mahar- tion of such Information will not be commen- ashtra; surate with the purpose sought to be served; (b) what are the proposals for rehabili- (c) Adivasis are covered under 'ST category. 111e number of LPG connections tating the affected families; and allotted to SC/ST LPG distributorships dur~ ing the above period by BPC and HPC are (c) the employment potential of the 22839 and 38229 respectively; project and the provision made to give prior- ity to the affected people for employment in (d) Viability of distributorships depends the project? on many factors such as cost of showroom! land for godown, cost of construction of godown. other infrastructural costs, wages, THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI etc. Once an LPG distributorship is com mis- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) to (c). The information sioned, it takes about 3-4 years to reach the is being collected and will be laid on the viable level; and Table of the House in due course.

(e) Does not arise in view of (d) above. Planning of T.V. Programmes Petrochemical Project at Jaigad, Maharashtra 5723. SHRI HUSSAIN DAlWAI: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 5721. SHRI HUSSAIN DAlWAI: Will BROADCASTING be pleased to state: the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: (a) whether there is disparity in the (a) whether any objections have been allocation of time on Doordarshan for Gov- received from the local people in respect of ernment controlled functions and program- the proposed Petrochemical Project at Jai- mes and other programmes of entertain- gad (Maharashtra), if so, the details thereof; ment; and (b) whether the Ministry of Environment and Forests have cleared this project; and (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the action proposed to be taken by Doordarshan (c) if so, what are their findings on for better planning of programmes? pollution and environmental after-effects?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI J. VENGAl RAO): (a) to (c). The information THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- is being collected and will be laid on the TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- Table of the House in due course. FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) No, Sir. Alloca- Petrochemical Complex at Jalgad In Maharashtra tion of time on Doordarshan depends on the importance and significance of the events 5722. SHRI HUSSAIN DAlWAI: Will viz from information, education and enter- the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to tainment angle. state:

(b) Does not arise.

Telephone Comectlons In Various MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI Cit ... of Madhya Pradesh GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes. Sir, ex- cept Sironj exchange which has no waiting 5724. SHRI PRATAP BHANU list. SHARMA: Will the Minister of COMMUNI- CATIONS be pleased to state: (b) Telephones are being provided as per objective of the Seventh Plan which is to (a) whether there is a long waiting listfor provide telephones by the end of Seventh new telephone connections in Vidisha, Ganj Plan (31.3.90) for an average telephone Basoda, Sihore, Sironj, Raisen and Bhopal demand registered upto 1.4.87 in case of cities of Madhya Pradesh; large size exchanges, upto 1.4.88 in case of medium size exchanges and almost on (b) if so. the reasons for delay in provid- demand in case of small size exchanges ing new telephone connections at these subject to availability of equipment con- places; and cerned.

(c) when the present demand would be met in these towns? (c) The present demand of the following cities are likely to be cleared by the year THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE indicated against each.

SI.No. Name Year

1 2 3

1. Videsha 1993-94

2. Ganj Basoda 1990-91

3. Sihore 1990-91

4. Raisen 1989-90

5. Bhopal 1992-93

New Telephone Electronic Exchanges (b) how many of them have been in- In Madhya Pradesh stalled, started working and when~; and

5725. SHRI PRATAP BHANU (c) the target fixed for installation of new SHARMA:Willthe Minister of COMMUNICA- exchanges in 1989-90? TIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) the targert fixed for the installation of MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI new electronic exchanges in Madhya GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Twenty one Pradesh during 1988-89; electronic exchanges were plann~ to be 409 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 410 commiss~ in Madhya Pradesh during 15. Ulaidhan 1988-89. 16. Jatwara (b) Twenty have been commissioned. Details are given in the ,Statement below. 17. SlSarni

(c) Thirty Seven new telephone ex- 18. Malanpur changes in 1989.. 90 are proposed to be installed subject to availability of exchange 19. Malajkhand equipment. 20. Sandhai. STATEMENT Supply of Ga. through Pipeline In List of Electronic Exchanges Commis- Baroda, Gujarat sioned in Madhya Pradesh During 1988- 89 5726. SHAI AANJITSINGH GAEKWAD: Will the Minister of PETRO- 1. Khergone -600 LNEAX LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pI.eased to state: 2. Datia -400LNEAX (a) whether Government have received 3. Rewa -1200 LNEAX any proposals from the Municipal Corpora- tion of Baroda in Gujarat for allocation of 4. Sidhi --400 L NEAX more gas for house hold purposes through pipeline and reduction of the prices of the 5. Jagadalpur -BOO LNEAX natural gas supplied;

6. Chhindwara -1000 L NEAX (b) if so, the details thereof; and

7. Jhabua -400 L NEAX (c) the ~ion taken thereon?

8. Bhopal -600RLU THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NA TU- C-Oot 128 Port RAX RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUTT): (a) Yes, Sir. 9. Beresia

10. Misrod (b) The Baroda Municipal Corpn. have requested for !ditional commitment of 11. Adam pur 30,000-40,000 M of gas per day for domes- tic supply in the city as well as for supply qf 12. Sanwer gas at a reduced price of As. 500/1000 M' a~ainst the present price of As. 1400/1000 M plus taxes. 13. Channatoria

(c) This has been examined by the 14. Kumhari GOvemmant and found not possble. 411 APRil 11, 1989 Wrirten AnSMWS 412

Payment of Royalty on Crude 011 Md Departmentalocated in Region 'A'toCentral Guto ..... Govemment Offices located in Regions A & B : 100% for communications from Central 5727. SHRI RANJITSINGH Govemment offices, etc. located In Region GAEKWAD: WI the Minister of PETRO- 'A' to central Govemment Offices located in LEUM AND NATURAL GAS be pleased Regions A & Band 10% to offices located in state the to rate of royalty paid to different oil Regions .0" in the case of correspon- producing States by the OH and Natural Gas dence, as al80 100% for communications to Commission on production of oil and natural any offices of a State GovemementlUnion gas from the ·respective States? Territory or individuals in Regions A & B; besides this all communications received in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Hindi have to be replied to in Hindi. These MINISTRY OF PETROlEUM AND NATU- percentages are apart from the work which RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DU1T): (\l) The has to be necessarily in both Hindi and ~t rate of tOyaIly is As. 1921- per MT on English, or in Hindi alone. These guidelines crud8'aU and 10% of the value of natural gas are proposed to be followed in this Ministry obtained at the well-head. This is applicable also in offices located in Bihar. U.P. Hary- throughout the country. ana, Madhya Pradesh and Rajasthan.

( TIanSIatbJ) [ Translatbn]

u..of Hindi Expansion of TelecOmmunication. and Poatal Services In Bihar 5728. SHRI KUNWAR RAM: Will the Miniaterof COMMUNICATIONS be pleased 5729. SHRI KUNWAR RAM: Will the to state: Ministerot COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: the programme prepared by his Ministry for the progressive use of Hindi for (a) the details of new expansion proj- 1989-90; and ects of telecommunication and postal serv- ices to be implemented in Patna. Gaya, (b) the percentage of wok proposed to Nawada and Nalanda district of Bihar during be dona in Hindi in its offices located in Bihar. 1989-90; U.P., Haryana, Madhya Pradesh and Ra- jasthan? (b) the number of on going projects likely to be completed during thia y.. r; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (c) the benefItS to be accrued there- GiRIDHAR GOMANGO); (a> and (b). An- from? nual Programme for implementation of Offi- ciallanguage Pofecy rA the Union is pre- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pared by the Department of Official lan- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI guages, Ministry of Home Affairs and the GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) percentages of work proposed to be done in Hindi in various Central Government Offices Depanment of TfII«:om are alia presat.d by the same Depart- ment, which i.Int.,.ia -90% In the case of (a) expansion projecta to be imple- communicallons from Central Ministries! mented during 1989-90. 413 Wrltt." Annws CtWTRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Wnlten Ans_m 414

_ 10.000 lines E-10B Exchange . change (Nalanda) from ado to replacing 6000 lins at Patna and 1,000 lines. 1800 lines at Pat~ Replacement .of MAX-III at _ Replacement 01 step-by-step Rajgir and at Nalanda by C-Dot Telex exchange at Patna by Exchange. SPC electmnics Talex. (b) The number of ongoing projects Expansion of Rajendranagar likely 10 be completed during this period. Telephone Exchange (Palna) from 9000 to 10,000 lines. 7000 lines E-1 OB at Patna and 3000 line RlU at P..,.,._.. Inter~ialling between Gaya and Bodhgaya. (c) The benefits to be accrued there- from? GrouJHiiailing between WarsIi- . ganj. Hisua and Rajauli in Na- With the mmmissioning of these proj- wada. ects. telecom services will be provided to new subscrbKs and the existing telecom. ~ wRI improve because of indudionof Expansion of Biharshariff ex- modem technology. DepaIIment d Posts

16 new post offICeS have been sanctioned. These are for the following villages;

'Gays District: Charokharigarh, 'Hamara, Airs. Majhiawan and Silaunj, I

Patna District: Malikapur, Hulasitola, Nasratpur and Kausari.

Nawada District:

Nalanda District: Bhatagaon, Gaurabnagar, Suhawanpur, Amba, Belchi and Palatpara.

(b) The number of ongoing projects prove further in the respective districts. likely to be completed during this period. [Englsh) The sanctioned post offices are ex- pected to be opened during the first Quarter DenIMd of Soda Aah ApriI..June 1989. 5730. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD (c) The benefits to be accrued ther. SETHI: from? SHRI H.B.PATIL:

With the opening of the 16 new post Wi! the Minister of INDUSTRY be offlcea post.l.facHlti.... expect" to im- pleased 10 state: 415 Writ." Answers APRil 11, 1989 Wnlten AnSwet5 418

" (a) the demand of soda ash of the small THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE scale sector during 1987-88 and 1988-89; DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT ~ THE MINISTRY OF INDUS-

(b) out of the total demand of the small TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (c). A scale -sector the estimated consumption by By and large, the automobile component sodium silicate and detergents manufactur- industry has been meeting the requirement ers dhobies and household cooperatives; of the vehicle sector, both in terms of quality and and quantity. In the wake of introduction of new generation of vehicles in the country, (c) the estimated increase in demand of Govemment have encouraged the auto soda ash during 1989-901 component industry to upgrade and moder- nise their technology, and for tliis purpose a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE number of measures have been taken by the . DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELM Government including delioansing of auto OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- component industry, broad-banding. liberal TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The import of technology, fiscal concessions, total demand of soda ash during 1987 ~8 reduction in import duties on tools, dies, and 1988-89 was estimated at 12.00 and jugs, fixtures. etc. 13.20 lakh tonnes. respectively. Out of this approximately 35% share was that of the There is no independent automobtle small scale sector. component unit in the Central public sector. In the private sector, there are about 250 (b) Sodium Silicate and detergent in- units in the organised sector engaged in the dustry account for over 700k of total con- auto component industry. sumption of soda ash in the small scale sector. Separate figures for dhobies and Educational Program~ In Regional industrial cooperatives are not available. Languages on T.V. Network

(c) Demand of soda ash during 1989-90 5732. SHRI VLJA Y N. PATIL: Will the is estimated to grow by 10% over the preced- Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD- ing year. CASTING be pleased to state:

Development of Automobile Compo- (a) whether Government have planned nent Industry nation-wide educational programmes for telecasting on a special channel on national 5731. SHRI VLJAY N. PATlL: Will the and regional T.V. Networks for effective Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: national integration;

(a) the steps Government propose to (b) if so, the procedure to be adopted for take for developing a strong . and quality such programme; and oriented automobile component industry; (c) when such programmes are likely to (b) the number of private and public be introduced? undertakings working in that field; and THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- (c) the incentive8 proposed to be given FORMATION AND BROADCASTING to the indigenous component industry? (SHRI H.KL BHAGAT): (.) No, Sir. There is 417 Written AnswetS CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 418 no proposal to telecast such programmes on area of tidal power development in the coun.. a special channel of national and regional try; T. V. Network. However, educational pro- grammes emphasising national integration (b) if so, whether the National Hydro- are regularly telecast on the national net- electric Power Corporation has initiated work and from various Ooordarshan Ken- action for obtaining the techno-economic dras. clearance for the projects from the Central Electricity Authori4'; (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) whether any concrete proposals Rural Electrification Scheme In Karna- have been chalked out; and taka (d) if so, the details thereof? 5733. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- (a) whether any rural electrification TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI): schemes have been prepared for Karna- (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. taka; (c) and (d). Central Electricity Authority (b) if so, the total number of villages to is yet to accord technoeconomic clearance. be electrified in Karnataka; and Setting up of gas based industries In (c) the total amount sandioned there- Punjab for? 5734. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- state: TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI): (a) to (c). The Rural electrification Corpora- tion has sanctioned 925 schemes upto the (a) whether Government have any pro- end of March, 1989 for Karnataka Electricity posal to set up gas based industries in Board involving a loan assistance of Rs. Punjab; 206.60 crores. These schemes envisage electrification of 8537 villages and energisa- (b) if so, the details thereof; and tion of 3.86 lakh pumpsets. (c) the measures taken in this regard so Tidal Power Development by NHPC far?

5734. SHRI G.S. BASAVARAJU: SHRI SHANTILAl PATEL: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEl- Will the Minister of ENERGY be OPMt=NT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- pleased to state: TRY ( SHRt M. ARUNACHALAM); (a) to (c). There is no natural gas available in Punjab at present. The question of setting up of gas- (a) whether the National Hydro-Eledric based industries in that state. therefore, Power Corporation contemplate to enter the does not arise. 419 Wrilt." AnSW8tS APRil 11, 1989 Written Answ9B 420

Chartering Rate. for Off-Shore SUpport (d) Various incentives such as price V... hired by ONGC pret.. enc8 over foreign borders, deemed export benefits etc are available to domestic 5736. SHRI ATISH CHANDRA SINHA: companies desirous of entering the oil field Will the Minister of PETROlEUM AND service sector. NAruRAL GAS be pleased to state: Dlstrlcta not cov.red by Regional (a) whether the Oil & Natural Gas Network of Doordarshan, Kerala, Commission has been paying the same Trlvandrum chartering rate for employment of Indian Off- shore Support vessels as the foreign ves- 5737. SHAI MULLAPPALLV RAMA- sels; CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of INFORMA- TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to (b) if .not, the reasons therefor; state:

(c) the details of Offshore Support (a) the districts in Kerala which are not Vessels employed, rate of chartering per yet covered under the regional network of day being given both to domestic and foreign Trivandrum Doordarshan, Kerala; vessels; and (b) the reasons therefor; and (d) the action proposed to be taken to encourage the Indian owned vessels? (c) when these districts are likeJy to be brought under the regional network? THE MINISTER Of STATE OF THE MINlsmv OF PEmOlEUM AND NATU- THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA OUTT): (a) No. TARV AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- Sir. FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.L BHAGA T): (a) 10 (c). Eleven (b) The charter rates of the Indian flag districts in Kerala out of a total of fourteen are vessels were fixed in terms of the methodol- at present covered. fully or pratically, by ogy prescribed in the report of the working regionai TV service relayed by the TV trans- group headed by the then O.G. Shipping in mitters at Trivandrum. Cochin and Calicut. 1984. Pending examination of ONGC's The existing low power (100 W) TV transmit- oontentions regarding the extension of this ter at Calicut is envisaged to be replaced by arrangement for a further three years by a high power (10 KW) transmitter as part of Government, the vessels, in whose case the the VII Plan. With the commissioning of this five year period of the rates fixed under the project, two more districts are expected to be above methodology has ended, are being brought substantially under regional service paid an interim rate by ONGC.The foreign network in Kerala. It is also expected to flag vessels in being paid at the rate quoted effect improvement in the service already for it against ONGe's open tender. available in four districts.

Plan Allocation for Increasing capacity (c) At present ONGC have employed 25 of Power Projects vessels belonging to Indian companies at charter rate ranging from As. 25,000 to Rs 5738. SHRI MULLAPPALL V RAMA- 65,800 per day. The foreign flag vessel is CHANDRAN: Will the Minister of ENERGY employed at Rs. 19,142. per day. be pleased to slate: 421 CHAITRA 21.1911 (SAKA)

(a> the10tal plan allocation for increas- anee capacity in the current financial year ing the installed capacity of thermal, hydel (1989-90). and nuclear power projects, separately dur- ing the Seventh Plan; lyr. Price.

(b) the details of additional allocatiol"! 5739. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MAN- made. if any; and OAl: DR. B.LSHAILESH: (c) the detaOs of major power projects SHRI KAMAL HATH: which have been completed during the Seventh Plan period and those yet to be Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be completed by the end of the Plan? pleased to state:

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the Bureau of Industrial DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Costs and Prices has recommended to TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNA TH RAI) Govemmentto intervene in the price mecha- : (a) The approved outlay for power genera- nism of automative tyres; and tion schemes in the Seventh Plan is Rs. 21302.63 crores, the break up of which is (b) if so, the details thereof and the given below:- steps taken or proposed to be taken in this regard? (Rs. crores) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE States 13,254.67 DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Centre 7,993.04 .TRY ( SHRt 'M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) and (b). The Bureau of Industrial Costs and Union Territories 54.92 Prices has, in its Report on Automotive Tyre Industry (Phase-II Study) Recommended . 21,302.63 the facility of import of lyres and tubes on O.G.L. at a total duty of 100% . This recom- mendations has been accepted by Govern- The break up of outlay for thermal, ment and the import of specified categories hydro and nuclear generation Schemes was of truck and bus tyres has already been put not, however, indicated separately. on O.G.L. at a reduced rate of duty for specified categories of consumers. (b) According to an assessment made by the Planning Commission additional fund [ Translation] requirements during the Seventh Plan for generation schemes would be about Rs. Allotment of Petrol Pumps and LP.G. 6500 crores. Agencies In Deihl

(c) A capacity of 22245 MW is targetted 5740. SHRI GANGA RAM: Will the for commissioning during the Seventh Five Minister of PETROLEUM AND NA ruRAL Year Plan, out of which a capacity of about GAS be pleased to state: 16,700 MW has been commissioned/rolled till 31 st March, 1989. It is expected that it (a) the number of petro' pumps and gas would be possible to commission the bal- agencies allotted by various .petroleum 423 Written Answers APRil 11 J 1989 Written Answ91S 424 companies in Delhi, company-wise; (e) if So, whether the petrol pumps and gas agencies to be opened in future will be (b) the percentage of reservation made allotted to the SCIST persons; and for the Scheduled CasteslScheduled Tribes in the allotment of these petrol pumps and gas agencies; (f) if not, the reasons therefor?

(c) the number of persons to whom THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE petrol pumps and gas agencies have been MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- allotted on reservation basis so far in D~lhi RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) to (c). by each petroleum company; The Retail Outlet (PetroVDiesel) dealerships and LPG distributorships awarded by Oil (d) whether allotment to SC/ST persons Companies to SC/ST persons and others in has been less than the prescribed quota; Delhi as on 31.3.1989 are as under:

Retails Outlet Dealerships LPG Distributorships

Total SCIST % age Total SC/sT . % age

IDC 83 3 3.61 137 13 9.48

BPe 2 34 14 41.17

HPC 1 18

IBP 1

87 3 3.44 189 27 14.28

(d) and (8). Reservation of 25% for all (a) the licensed capacity sanctioned to dealerships/distributorships for SC/STs has Colgate Palmolive (India) Ltd. to manufac- been there ever since the oil companies ture tooth paste and tooth powder, reserved adopted uniform guidelines with effect from for small scale sector; 23.9.1977. This is being adhered to in all Annual marketing plans for dealerships/dis- (b) whether the Colgate Palmolive tributorships; (India) Ltd. has been manufacturing much more than the licensed capacity; (1) Does not arise in view of (d) & (e). above. (c) if so, the details thereof and the action taken against them; and [English] (d) if no action has been taken, the Licensed capacity of MIs. Colgate reasons therefor? Palmolive (India) Ltd. THE MINISlER OF STATE IN THE 5741. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- state: TRY ( SHRI M. ARtJ~" . CHAlAM):.• : ... ' -~, .... 425 Written AnsWSfS CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnswelS 426 licensed capacity of Tooth Powder and (India) Ltd., is as under:- T oath Paste of M/s. Colgate ' Palmolive

Tooth Powder n1 Tonnes/Annum Tooth Paste:

(~)Mixing 85,0001bs on single shift basis. (b) Filling 1,30,000 Dazs

The mixing capacity for Tooth Paste lists for telephone connections in West has been recognised at 15,50,000 Kgs. per Bengal, district-wise; and annum on three shift basis subject to certain conditions. (b) the time by which the waiting lists are expected to b8 cleared? (b) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) and (d). The Company filed a writ MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt petition in the Delhi High Court and obtained GJRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) The informa- a Stay Order restraining the Government tion is given in the Statement below. from proceeding against them. The matter therefore is sub-judice (b) As per the objectives of the Seventh Five Year Plan, it is proposed to meet the Waiting List. for Telephone connec- average registered demand in the Calcutta tions In West Bengal Metropolitan District up to 30.9.86, other large capacity exchange areas in West 5742. DR. PHULRENU GUHA: Will the Bengal up to 1.4. 87 and medium size ex- Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased change areas up to 1.4.88 by the end of the to state: Seventh Plan period. The remaining waiting list ¥Jill be gradually cleared during the (a) the number of persons on the waiting Eignth Five Y~ar Plan period.

STATEMENT

District Wise Waiting List in West Bengal as on 1.3. 1989

.SI.No . Name of the District Waiting Lists 1 2 3

1. Bankura 133

2. Birbhum 415

3,., Burdwan 2451 "

4. Coach Behar 131 427 Witten Answers APRil 11, 1989 WriIt." Answers 428

1 2 3

5. Darjeeling 827

6. Howrah 84

7. Hooghly 354

8. Jalpaiguri 198

9. MaIda 34

10. Murshfdabad 202

11. Midnapore 856

12. Nadia 132

13. Purulia 153

14. 24 Pargana 37

15. West Dinajpur 152

16. Calcutta Telephone District (includes parts of Howrah, Hooghly and 24 Pargana Distts).30855

Delivery of Postal Oak In NOIDA has been set up in sector 37 in NOIDA and started functioning; 5743. SHRI KAMAL CHAUDHRY: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be (d) if so, whether the postal dak is now pleased to refer to the reply given on 15 delivered in time, regularly and daily in each November, 1988 to Unstarred Question No. of the sectors of NOIDA and the delay has 642 regarding delivery of postal dak in been minimised; and NOIDA and state; (e) if not, the reasons therefor? . (a) the number of additional posts, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE sanctioned for NOIDA Complex Post Office MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI to cope with the work and to improve delivery GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Details of the of postal dak; additional posts sanctioned are given in the Statement below. (b) whether the additional staff has (b) Yes, Sir. been appointed and if not, the reasons there- (c) Yes, Sir. for; (d) Yes. Sir.

(c) whether new Delivery Sub-Office (e) Does not arise in view of (d) above. 429 .CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) 430

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f/) E f/) 1:: "'iii '" 'E 0 ns '0 "'0 0. I- ns c: (1) Ui CD OCi) 'in ~ f/) > N CD 'E c. 0')0 co « E c: c: 1i) a; (\'! CD 'iii 'ti) c :0 en en 0 Ci3 CD .2 en « c.. co E g CD (ij (I) c en :.:=,:E ~ CD -0 .c. ~ CI) Ui - a.. c. c: :::3 .... 0 B E fl co Q) .,... Q.. C/) 1:: C> 0. ... ~ ~ co C E . (.!) CD c. t :J i 7n C/) E CD 0 e- o ~ >~~ ...J ~ 0 c/), ot! 0.. 431 Written Answers APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 43~

Gas Baaed Pow.r Project In Madhya been given to Madhya ~radesh Government Prad ••h in this regard; and

5744. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to stale: (c) if so, the~i;"ailsthereof and when the proposals are til ·ely to be cleared? . (a) whether Madhya Pradesh Govern- ment has submitted a proposal to Union Government for setting up of four power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE projects of 450 MW capacity each in DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Gwalior, Guna, Jhabua and Rajgarh based TRY OF ENERGY {SHRI KALPNATH RAI) on gas from HBJ pipeline which passes/ : (a) to (c). The following schemes for the through the State; setting up of gas-based power stations in' Madhya Pradesh have been received in the (b) if so, whether any assurance has Central Electricity Authority;

SI.No. Name of Project Capacity (MW) Estimated Cost (Rs. in crores)

1 2 3 4

(i) Gwalior GT Combined Cycle 3 x 100 MWGT + 420.30 Thermal Power Station (TPS) 1 x 150 MW ST

(ii) Jhabua GT Combined 3 x 100 MWGT + 428.40 CydeTPS 1 x 150 MWST

(iii) Rajgarh GT Combined 3 x 100 MWGT + 432.90 CycleTPS 1 x 150 MW ST

(iv) Guna GT Combined Cycle TPS 3 x 100 MWGT + 414.00 1 x 150 MW ST

The proposals could be processed for (a) whether the Bharat Petroleum Cor- techno-economic clearance/investment poration Limited is contemplating to set up decision after the fuel linkage is confirmed, an oil refinery in Madhya Pradesh; the requisite inputs have been tied up and the necessary clearances have been ob- (b) whether their technical team has tained by the State Government. inspected several sites in Narsingpur, Hos- hangabad and Khandwa districts for setting Setting up of 011 Refiner In Madhya up this projects; and Pradesh (c) if so, the details thereof? 5745. SHRt MAHENDRA SINGH: Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND NATU- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE RAL GAS be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- 433 Written Answers CHAITRA21, 1911 (SAKA) Written AnSWBIS 434

RALGAS (SHRI BRAHMADUIT): (a) to (c). (~) the steps taken to expedite the A working group has already been ronst;- work? tuted for formation of Vlllth Plan, which would make appropriate recommendations THE MINISTEA OF STATE IN THE for creation of additional Refining capacity in DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- the country. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) : (a) to (d). The information is being collected In order to get preliminary work done, and will be laid on the Table of the House. Government requested BPCL to carry out a study for a new refinery in Central India for Asalstance for Bakreshwar Thermal consideration in the Vilith Five Year Plan. Power Plant

BPCL's technical team inspeded sev- 5747. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: eral sites and has suggested the following Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to locations as promising:- refer to the reply given on 23 August, 1988 to Unstarred Question No. 3858 regarding (i) Harda-Khirkiya, Dist. Hoshan- Bakreshwar Thermal Power Project and gabad state;

(ii) Rampuri-Kherkheda, Near (a) whether Government have agreed Khandwa, Dist. East Nimar. to the external bilateral assistance to the West Bengal Government in the matter of (iii) Bagaspur, Dist. Narsing-pur. construction of the Bakreshwar Thermal Power Plant; and The actual location of the refinery will be decided on the basis of various techno- (b) if so, the present stage thereof? economic considerations, which include availability of crude oil, demand supply bal- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ance of products in the area, etc. and also on DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- the reports of the experts. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAt) : (a) and (b). The general policy is at present Construction of Ash Pond at Talcher that Government-to-Government bilateral Project In Orissa external assistance can only be utilised for the implementation of power projects in the 5746. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PATNAIK: Central Sector. This position was explained Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to to the Government of West Bengal, who state: have indicated that the Bakreshwar Project is to be taken up for implementation in the (a) whether the Thermal Power Plant at State Sector. Talcher in Orissa has taken steps to build an ash pond to store the ashes and dust re- ElectrHlcatlon of Villages In Bihar leased by the plant; 5748. SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDOIN: (b) if 80, the progress made in the con- Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to struction of that ash pond; state:

(c) the date by which the construction of (a) the number of villages electrified so ash pond is expected to be completed; and far and to be electrified during 1989-90 in the 435 Wnlt." AnswatW APRil 11 , 1989 Written Answers 436 country, State-wise braak-up. TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KALPNATH RAI) : (a) Statement I indicating Stat.wise num- (b) the corresponding figures, district- ber of villages fllectrified upto 28.2.1989 and wise for Bihar; villages to be electrified during 1989-90 is given below. (c) the criteria for the selection of addi- tional villages in various States, in various (b) and (c). Statement II indicating Dis- districts within a State and in various blocks trict-wise number of villages electrified in within a district; and Bihar as on 31.3.1988 is given below. Dis- trict-wise and block-wise targets are final- (d) the names of Gram Panchayats in ised at too State level depending' upon the Pumea district of Bihar which have not yet priorities accorded by the State Electricity been eJedrified? Board.

lliE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (d) Statistics regarding electrification of DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Gram Panchayats are not maintained. STATEMENT-.

SI.No. States No. of villages electrified No. of villages to be upto 28.2.89 el9Ctrifisd during 1989-90

1 2 3 4

1. Andhra Pradesh 26760 650

2. Arunachal Pradesh 1124 135

3. Assam 18516 1703

4. Bihar 42898 2300

5. Goa 377 40

6. Gujarat 17892 1

7. Haryana 6745

8. Himachal Pradesh 16778 1

9. Jammu & Kashmir 6056 100

10. Karnataka 26429 30

11. Kerala 1219 1

12. Madhya Pradesh 54941 2700

13. Maharashtra 38797 150 437 Written AnsWMS CHAfTRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) Written Answets 438

1 2 3 4 14. Manipur 1008 250

15. Meghalaya 1834 230

16. Mizoram 279 65

17. Nagaland 1097

18. Orissa 28903 785

19. Punjab 12342

20. Rajasthan 24201 1010

21. Sikkim 330 38·

22. TamiiNadu 15811

23. Tripura 2429 160

24. Uttar Pradesh 78044 2365

~. West Bengal 24373 1560

Total (States) 449183 14231

Total (U Ts) 1084

Total (All- India) 450267 14231

STATEMENT II

SI.No. District Villages Electrified upto 31.3.88

1 2 3

1. Patn. 1357*

2. Nalanda 1013*

3. Gay. 2758

4. Jahanabad 439 Written An,." APRIL 11. 1989 Written Answers , 440

1 2 3

5. Nawadah 927

6. Aurangabad 1559

7. Bhojpur 1278

8. Rohtas 2218

9. Ranchi 1183

10. Lahardaga 260

11. Palamu 1195

12. Singhbhum 1587

13. Gumla 485

14. Hazaribagh 1344

15. Giridih 988

16. Dhanbad 697

17. Bhagalpur 1593

18. Munger 1582

19. Deogar 950

20. Dumka 888

21. Godda 540

22. Sahebganj 676

23. Muzaffarpur 1286

24. Sitamarhi 739

25. Vaishali 1171

26. E. Champaran 897

27. W. Champaran . 832 441 WrlI." An.wers CHAfTRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written An.. 1S 442

1 2 3

28. Saran 1257

29. Gopalganj 933

30. Siw~n 902

31". Oarbhanga 1020

32. Mahdhubani 995

33. Samastipur 1157*

34. Begusari 835*

35. Saharsa 785

36. Madhepura 345

37. Purnea 1228

38. Katihar 682

39. Khagaria

Under State Plan (Being identified by SEB) 87 .

* Note: Includes uninhabited villages

Production of Coal In Eighth Plan during the Eighth Plan?

5749. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOI: Will THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHAI the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: VASA NT SATHE): (a) and (b). Need based projection of coal production in the Eight (a) whether Government have made Plan period is still to be firmed up. T enta· any projedion for the production of coal tively, it is expect9d that coal production may during the Eighth Plan; have to be stepped by about 50 percent during the 8th Plan period. (b) if so, the details of the target set therefor; and (c) For meeting the additional require- ment in the Eighth Plan period, specific (c) the details of the strategies pro- project proposals are contemplated to be posed to be adopted to raise coal production processed for investment sandions. Many 443 APRJl11, 1989 Written An.... 444 of the already sanctioned projects are also of these transmitters; expected to start coal production in the 8th Plan and thus contrbIte towards the addi- (erif so, the details of such assessment tional production requirement. made during 1987, 1988 and by 31 st March, 1989, State-wise ; and A-.mant of GeO-thermlll Pot.,tlalln , Slkklm (d) the details of programme to ensure performance of the transmitters in Eastern 5750. SHRIMATI D .K. BHANDARI: Will region effectively in future? the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN-

(e) if not, the reasons therefor? Manipur 1

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHRI Nagaland VASANT SATHE): (a) No, Sir. Orissa 2 (b) Does not arise. Tripura 1 (c) to (e). From the known information Gao-Thermal potential for power generation West Bengal 5 in Sikkim is not high and as such does not (including one second merit priority. ' Chann~1 transmitter)

High Power Transmitters In Eastern R~lon (b) and (c). Yes, Sir. High Power trans- mitters in the Easter Region, as in all other 5751.SHRIMATI D.K. BHANDARI: Will zones, are reported to have been function- the Minister of INFORMATION AND ing satisfactorily. Percentage of interruption BROADCASTING be pleased to state: in service with respect to the total transmis- sion period due to power supply failure, gear {a) the number of high power TV trans- break-down and other causes during 1987- mitters set up in Eastern r99ion, State-wise; 88 and 1989 (till February), recorded on the basis of periodical assessment of the work- (b) whether Government have con- ing of these transmitters, is given below, ducted pertodicalassessment of the working State-wise:- Written AM... CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Writtsn AnsIl8lS 446

State Percentage Break-down

1987 1988 1989 (till February)

Assam 0.16 0.45 0.18

Bihar 0.40 0.27 0.09

Megha- laya 022

Manipur 0.23 0.58 0.29

Naga- land 0.15 0.97 0.88

Orissa 0.49 0.42 0.17

Tripura 2.05 1.24 1.06

West Bengal 0.64 0.58 0.50

(d) Performance of the transmitters is tions proposed to be provided during 1989 normally monitored at the highest efficiency category-wise; through regular preventive maintenance, periodical returns and inspections at various (d) whether Government propose to levels. increase the existing capacity of Telex Ex- change in Sikkim; Waiting 118t for Telephone and Telex Connection. In Slkklm (e) if so, the details thereof and if not. the reasons therefor; and 5752. SHRIMATI D.K. BHANDARI: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: (f) The number of persons registered for Telex connections in Sikkim as on 15 March (a) the number of persons registered for 19891 telephone connections in each category at Gangtok as on 15 March, 1989; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATION$ (SHf11 (b) the number of connections released GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). There ~ in Sikkim- as on 15 March, 1989 category- were 36 applications registered under OYT. wise; 17 under Special and 138 under General Category in Gangtok as on 15.3.1989. Dur- (c) the number of telephone c::onnec- ing the period 1.4.88 to 15.3.89 telephone 447 APRI.,11.'_ connections were .....ased under OYT bIougIC.., ...... in pertonnance of Category. 10 under Special and 15 under 'alaphol. MIWaIk in SIddm;.... GerwaI category. From the abcMa waling list. 28 more connections under OYT. 12 (1)1 ...... " and I not. the more under Special and 36 to more under 18.1 Ct ...tiIw? General category were rel.ased upm 31.3.1989 by expansion of the _change. 11E ...1SlER OF STATE IN lHE During this year, the entire existing waling MINISTRY OF OOMIIUNICATIONS (SHRI list under OYT and Special Categories and GIRIlHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). SID majority ~the waiting list of General app1ica- and ...... 'alaphon. services between tions is li

(a) whether subscrbertrunk dialing and Replace poor drop wire. manual trunk service between New Delli and Gangtok generally remains , .....y; AapIaca fault prone under- gRUId cables. (b) if so, the reasonS therefor; RalICMIte subsabers fittings Md distrhttion points. (c) whether Government had initialed certain measures under the Missio~er (c)Ves.Sir. communications to improve the perform- ance for telephone network in SIddm; (f) SigI--1I improvements have been brought in1hequailyolTeIecom. services in (d) if so, the details thereof; SIddm sincelhe Iau1chqJ of Mission better ~ in April. 1986 as indicated (a) whether these measures have beIow:- atAI1RA 21. 1911 ($AKA) ptllfortnant» ,.,.,.... ,.

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Lavy on TIle -...... gar " ••• ,...... FIn8OO8. In the Telecommunication Sector Nigam UmIt8d Md VIdeM SancI..- of the Government of India only the Tele- NIgam ...... com. System in Metropolitan Cities and other major cities and towns in India gener- 5754. SHRISANATKUMARMANDAL: ate surpluses. which is utilised fo~ financing Will the Minister 01 COWAJNICATIONS be the developnent eX Rural Telecommunica- pleased to state: tions and other network development. Since the Mahanagar T aIephone Nigam Ltd. and (a) whether GovemmenI have decided Vldesh Sanchar Nigam Ltd. became Public to impose a levy on the Mahanagar Tele- Sector Undertakings with effect from 1.4.86 phone Nigam Ud. and the VIdesh Sanchar it has been decided to impose a levy on both Nigam Ud.; the organisations so as to augment the re- sources 01 the Department for teiecom net- (b) if so. the details of1he pmposed levy work development. to be calculated on the glOSS eanmg of these two Organisations and the IutIy yield (b) A levy of 7% has been imposed on to Government; MTNlon the gross revenue earned by way of charges tor telecommu~ions services (c) the manner in which this levy" be during the financial year 1987-88 .In respect utilised; of VSNl1he rate Of levy is 18% for the year 1987-88. A levy on the same basis of 7% has (d) how GovemmenI .. ensure that also been decided to be imposed on provi- this levy does not rasuI in extra burden on sional basis on the MTNl for the year 1988- the public? 89. The yield on account of the levy imposed on UTNL is as under.- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMUlJNICATIONS (SHRI For 1987-88 As. 49.29 erar8S. GIRIDHAR GOaU.NGO): (a) V... Sir. Gov- emment have impo8ed a levy on 1he Ma- For 1988-89 As. 69.00 eror. (Appx.) hanagar Telephol.. Nigam lid. ... the Vtdesh Sanchar Nigam lid. altar c:ansuIIa- tion with the ~ cI Rewanue and In respect of VSNL the amount is As. 48 Department of ExpendIan in the .....,or CIOres (Appx. ) for the year 1987-88. 451 APRil 11, 1989 Written Answers 452

(c) The amount of levy received from (b) The waiting list are clear~ only both the organisations wHI be utilised by the during Bulk Rele_ i.e. during the expan- Department of Telecommunications as a sion of above exchanges, in phased man- resource for development of telecom net- ner. work. (e) The average number of fresh regis- (d) Neither the MTNL nor the VSNL tration per month at these places are given have powers for revision of tariff of various as under: Telecom Services. Revising of tariff is gen- erally done by the Department of Telecomu- Coimbatore: 200 nication whenever it is felt justified and nec- essary to do so, t.aking Into account various Tirupur 55 factors including the cost of operation. Sulur 9 Waiting Ust for Telephone Connections In Tamil Nadu . Palladam 4

5755. SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMY: Will (d) Due to paucity of resources, it is the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be difficult to ensure that all general category pleased to state: . applicants set the connections within two years. However, following expansion of

! Twupur 3306 5756. SHRI C.K. KUPPUSWAMV: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be S"rur : 175 pleased to state:

Palladam : 124 (a) whether Government have decided WrIIt." Answets CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) WrlIten AnS_1S 454

to instal eledronic telephone exchange. in achieve the above objectives? Coimbatore, Tripur and Erode towns of Tamil Nadu; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (b) if so, the details thereof and when GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. these new electronic exchanges are likely to start functiQning; and (b) Rs. 45 crares are proposed to be invested during the year 1989-90 and about (c) if not, whether any such proposal is Rs. 400 crores during the Eighth Plan period under consideration and when it is likely to for upgradation of Telecom. Services in be finalised? Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) The upgradation of the services is MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI expected to be carried out by the year 1995 GIRIDHAR OOMANGO): (a) Yes, Sir. subject to availability of Financial resources and materials. (b) (i) 10,OO~ lines are proposed to be provided at Coimbatore by 1990-91. (d) The following steps have been taken in this regard: (ii) 4000 lines at Tirupur (i) Installation of digital electronic (iii) 7000 lines at Erode are planned to exchanges. be provided in the Eighth Plan period. (ii) Introduction of push button tele- (c) Does not arise. phone instruments.

Upgradatlon In Quality of Telecommu- (iii) Replacement of old & worn out nications Services telephone exchanges by digital electronic exchanges and up- 5757. SHRI SRIKANTHA DATTA gradation of external plant. NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased (iv) Use of jelly filled cables and use to state: of cable ducts.

(a) whether the Mahanagar Telephone (v) Use of high grade medium like Nigam limited has taken steps to upgrade PCM and Optical fibre system for the quality of the telecommunications serv- jundions. ices to an international level; (iv) Large scale use of computer (b) if so, the funds earmarked for that aids for fault repair, cable rec- purpose; ords, subscribers records etc.

(c) the year by which the telecommuni- Crisis In Mini-Cement Plants cation services are to be upgraded to the international Jevel; and 5758. SHRI SRIKANTHA DA rrA (d) the detaHs of the measures taken by NARASIMHARAJA WADIYAR:WiIi the Min- the Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Limited to ister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Written AnSMtS APRIL 11, 1989 Written AnsW8IS ' 456

(a) whether mini cement plants using Venjaram~, Kilimanoor and AtUngal tele- vertical shaft kHm technology (VSK) in Kar- . phone exchanges in Kerala and to provide nataka are facing crisis; STD facility there:

(b) whether Govemment have identi- (b) if so, the details thereof; and fied the reasons thereof? (c) the steps taken or proposed to be (c) if so, the details thereof; taken thereon? '

(d) whether some of those mini-cement THE MJNISTER OF STATE IN THE plants are on the verge of closure ; and MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHAI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) and (b). Ven- (e) if so, the steps taken to help those jaramoodu is proposed to be expanded to plans to improve their performance and also 200 lines. There is no proposal at present for to revive them? expansion of Kalimanoor exchange. Atttin- gal exchange has been expanded from 400 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE to 600 lines on 31.3.1989. Further expan- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- sion by 100 lines (600-700) is proposed for OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- 1990-91. Attingal has already been provided TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a)to (e). with NSD/ISD facility. There is no proposal to A representation has been received from the provided NSD/ISD facility for Kilimanoor and Karnataka VSK Cement Plants Association Venjaramoodu at present. indicating the problems faced by the VSK cement plants in the State of Karnataka. The (c) 200 lines electronic SAX has been association has sought for various fiscal and allotted for Venjaramoodu forthe year 1989- financial incentives. 90 and likeiy to be commissioned during early part of Eight Plan period. There is no To improve the economic viabil~y of proposal at present for expansion of Kilima- VSK mini cement plants, a concessional rate noor exchange. Attingal exchange is likely to of excise duty of Rs. 115 per tonne has been be farther expanded during the early part of prescribed with effect from the 1st March, eighth Plan period. 1989, for cement manufactured by factories using vertical shaft kiln and with total li- censed capacity not exceeding 200 tonnes Technical ne-up~ with Foreign firms per day, as against the general excise duty rate of Rs. 215 per tonne. "J' 5760. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to state: Expansion of Telephone Exchanges In Kerala (a) the Government's JX?licy in permit- ting technical tie-ups with foreign firms; 5759. SHAI T. BASHEEA: Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased (b) the details of technical tie-ups with to state: foreign footwear companies approved so far; and

(a) whether there are any proposals for (c) its effect on the indigenous shoe the expansion and development of the manufacturing industry in the small sector? 457 Wrilt.n Answws CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written Ans_,. 458

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE ups approved in the footwear sector during DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEl-. the last three years is given below: OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF IN,DUS- TRY ( SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The (c) There can be no adverse effect of Government policy for permitting technical suct'i tie-ups on the indigenous shoe manu- tie-ups with foreign firms is based on na- faduring industries in the small scale sector tional priorities. which include general up- because leather footwear units in the organi- gradation.. of technology for the domestic as sed sector are subject to a minimum of 75% well- as export markets so as to improve our export obligation. Non leather footwear is competitiveness in the international market. not reserved for the small scale sector. Moreover, small scale units can also avail of (b) A statement showing technical tie- technical tie-ups with foreign firms. APRIL 11.1" 480

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Telecast of Filma on Saturday LoaM_in Coallnella Limited Sub.Ie... • rle. 5761. SHRI JANAK RAJ GUPTA: Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND 5762. SHRI S~D SHAHABUDDIN: , BROADCASTING be pleas,ad to state: Will the Minister of ENERGY be pleased to state: (a) whether it is proposed to telecast feature film on Saturday evenings instead of (a) the profit or loss incurred by each Thursday, as to enable large number of subsidiary of 1hG Coal India Limited during viewers to take the benefit. the last three Yliars;

(b) if so, the date from which the change (b) the cumulative loss suffered by the will take effect; and Coal India Umite(J;

(c) if not, the reasons therefor? (c) wheth81t' ar1Y study has been made of the reasons for the consistent loss made by THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- some subsidiaries; TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTI:.R OF IN- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (d) if so, the details thereof; and (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): (a) No, Sir. (e) whether any effort has been made to (b) Does not arise. rationalise the management and production of such loss incurring units? (c) The present slot for ,telecast of fea- THE MINISTER OF ENERGY (SHAI ture films on Thursdays evening from Delhi VASANT SATHE): (a) The profit earnedlloss and its linked transmitters is considered incurred by Coal India Limited and its sub- appropriate taking into account various pro- sidiaries from 1985-86 to 1987-88 was as gramme exigencies. follows:- -485 Written An,wers CHAITRA 21,1911 (SAKA) 486

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(b) Cumulative loss suffered by Cil and number of applications on the waiting list for its subsidiaries itS on 31.3. 1988 was of the each telecommunication district in the coun- order of As. 2259.75 crores. try;

(c) to ·(e). In April, 1985 a committee (b) the target year for meeting the full under the Chairmanship of Shri K.S.R. Chari demand for telephone lines in the country ; was appointed to examine the working of and ECl in all its aspects and make recommen- dations for its improvement. In January, (c) the break-up of the existing lines in 1986 a committee under the Chairmanship each telephone district according to location of Shri A.N Banerjee was appointed to make in rural or urban areas? an indepth study of the working of BCCl with a view to identifying the various problems THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE plaguing the company and finding out reme- MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI dial measures thereto. Department of coal GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (c). The in- has taken dtcisions on the recommenda- formation is being collected and will be laid tions of these Committee. These decisions, on the Table of the House. both short term and tong term are being implemented. Their implementations is Import of Equlpments from CIT-Alcatal likely to improv~ the performance of these Company companies. 5764. SHRI ARUN KUMAR NEHRU: ECl - Eastern Coalifiedlds Limited. Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: BCCL. Bharat Coking Coal Limited. (a) whether some equipments of CIT- CCl- Central Coalfields Limited. Alcatel Company have been imported dur- ing the last ten years; WCL- Western CoaHields Limited. (b) ~ so, the details of the equipments SECl. South Eastern coalfield Limited. imported. the foreign exchange involved and the source through which the equipments CMPDIL. Central Mine Planning & were imported; Design Institute Ltd., (c) whether any commission agents CIL. Coal India Umited. were involved in procuring these equip- ments; and T.lephone Lin•• (d) y!hether any alternative offers were received by Government for importing these 5763. SHRI SYEO SHAHABUDDIN: equipments? Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRI (a) the installed line capacity, additional GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): (a) to (d). The in- line capacity. under installation, and the formation is being collected and will be laid number of operational lines as well as the on the Tabla of the House. 469 Witten AnSMt'S CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Written An,...,. 470

Pen8lon Scheme In HIndu.. n Petro- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN nfE ~m Corporation LImIted DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEva.- OPMENT IN lHE MINISTRY OF INDUS- 5765.SHRI R.P.DAS: WHI the Minister TRY ( SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (8) No, of PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS be Sir. pleased to state: (b) The main arguments advanced (a) whether Government have received against India joining the Paris Convention any representation from Hindustan Petro- are that it is weighted heavHy in favour of leum Pensioners' Association for allowing protecting the patent holders of the devel- minimum pension as per Fourth Pay oped market economy countries, that it wiIJ Commission recommendations; and lead to monopolistic importation of patented articles, and that will impede the self-reliant (b) if so. the details thereof and the technological and industrial development of action taken thereon? the host developing oountries.

THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (c) The proponents for joining the Paris MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATU- Convention, on the other hand. argue that it RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DUn): (a) Yes, will enhance the confidence of the foreign sir; investor and create a favourable climate for the flow of technology to the host country. (b) In Hindustan Petroleum Corporation They also point out that the Convention Limited Pensions are paid to eligible em- provides sufficient flexibility to the host coun- ployees of the erstwhile ESSOICALTEX in try to follow its national objectives and priori- line with the respective pension plans of the ties in its own industrial property laws. foreign oil companies. These pension plans are different from the pension scheme which [ Translation] is applicabfe to the Government Pensioners. Therefore, the Fourth Pay Commission's Memorandum of Understanding by recommendations are not applicable for the Public Sector Undertakings purpose of minimum pension to HPCL Pen- sioners. 5767. SHRI BALWANT SINGH Pari. Convention on Patents RAMOOWALlA: SHRI DINESH GOSWAMI:

5766. SHRI SYED SHAHABUDDIN: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to pleased to state: state: (a) Whether any new Memorandum of (a) whether Government have decided Understanding are proposed to be signed by to join the Paris Convention on Patents; the Public Sector Undertakings with their concerned administrative Ministries for (b) the difficulties apprehended by the 1989-90. Industry in joining the Convention; and (b) if so, the details thereof; (c) the advantages likely to accrue from joining the Convention? (c) The reasons for not concluding such 471 Written AnswetS APRIL 11, 1989 Written Answers 472 agreements so far; and (b). No, Sir, However the (X)mpany Is making efforts to upgrad'e the vehicle and It has (d) The time by which the agreements recently been permitted to import consul- are likely to be concluded? tancy to update the engine being used in Ambassador car to increase its power im- THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI prove fuel economy .redxe exhaust emis- J. VENGAL RAO): (a) and (b). In addition to sions and noise levels. eleven public sector undertakings viz. Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd., Marutl Udyog Packing Machinery and It. Raw Material Ltd., Heavy Engineering Corpn. Ltd .• HMT Ltd., Steel Authority of India Ltd., Oil& Natu- 5769 SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGA- ral Gas Commission, Indian Airlines, Air LAM: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be India, State Trading Corpn. Ltd. Minerals & pleased to state: Metals Trading Corpn. Ltd. and National Thermal Power Corpn Ltd., who signed (a) whether India has emerged as one MOU for' the year 1988-89, seven more of the major manufacturers of packing ma- public sector undertakings viz. Bharat Elec- chinery and equipment in the ~hird world tronics Ltd., Bharat Earth Movers ltd., Coal countries; India Ltd., Rashtriya Chemicals & Fertilizers Ltd., Indian Oil Corpn. Ltd., Bharat Yantra (b) if so, the details thereof; Nigam Ltd. and Indian Petrochemicals Corpn. ltd. are to sign MOU for the Year (c) whether prepac and Tetrapack 1989-90. machines developed and used in India now use entirety indigenous packaging material (c) and (d) The MOU of 1989-90 are in without any payment of royalties; the process of being finalised and they are likely to be concluded very shortly. (d) whether LOPE or HOPE or paper used for these machines is to tally indige- [Eng/ish] nous;and

Improvement In Quality of Ambassador (e) if not, the value of royalties and all Car. imports for packaging machines for the last three years, year-wise? 5768. SHRI GOPAL KRISHNA THOTA: Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE pleased to state: DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- (a) whether Government have pre- TRY (SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) to (e) scribed any guidelines or norms for bringing There are 14 units in the organised sector in improvement in the quality of ambassador the country which produce packaging ma- Cars; and . chines for different prodUdS.

(b) if so, the details thereof? MIs. HindustM Packaging Company which is producing laminated paper for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE aseptic packaging is using indigenous paper DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- for manufacture of laminated paper. In order OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- to meet the total demand for packaging TRY ( SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (8) and material. the import of aseptic packaging 473 CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) Wrift." AnsWM 474 .

materiIII .... been allowed under 0Gl for THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE actuII ..... Low denaIy Polyethylene DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEl .. (lOPE) Md high density polyethuylne OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- TRY ( SHAI M. AAuNACHAlAM): (a) to (c). (HOPE) .... also partially imported. No roy- The need for modernisation· of Indian all...... payable on the import of packaging leather Industry,' both for domestic and machines into the country. export requirements, was reflected in the Seventh Plan document .in a broader per- PIracy of New indian Film. spective of introducing techniques to ensure improvement of technology & upgradation of quality. The increasing acceptability of in- sno. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Will dian Leather.in the export market during the the Minister of INFORMATION AND four years of the Seventh Plan is reflected in BROADCASTING be pleased to state: the fact that exports of finalised leather and value-added leather products has sharply increased from Rs. 583.76 crores in 1984-85

(b) if SO, the steps taken to preventthis? Factoring by Companle.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- 5n2. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAl TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- :WiII the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased FORMATION AND BROADCASTING to state: (SHRI H.K.l.BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. Re- (a) whether it has come to his Ministry's ports to this effect are current. notice that some companies are fadoring to sidestep deposit curbs on inter-corporate (b) Print and video piracy has become deposits imposed through last year's an Intematicnal menance. This is to be dealt amendments to Section 370 of the Compa- with under nationallegislaticn in each coun- nies Act; try where piracy takes place. (b) if so, the names of such companies; St.. to Improve leather technology and

sn1. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD SINGH: (c) the measures Government propose Will the Minister of INDUSTRY be pleased to to take against factoring being utilised as a total to get around the restrictions on inter- state: corporate deposits?

(a) whether a need for technological THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE improvement in the methods of tanning and DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVEL- finishing of leather was felt in the Seventh OPMENT IN THE MINISTRY OF INDUS- Plan documents; TRY ( SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM): (a) The amended provisions of Section 370 of the (b) whether it was envisaged to improve Companies Act, 1956 have not yet come into the technology to upgrade the Quality and force. However, no such practice has come 0UIpUt realising the optimum value in the to the notice of the Government. export markets;·and (b) and (c). Do not arise. (c) Hso. how much progress has been made In regard to the above? 475 Annount»m«lt re. APRIL 11, 1989 Legislative Patty 471 Formation of Janata Daf InLS.

12.00 hra. I forwarded a copy of Prof. Dandavate's letter to Shri Mohd. Mahfooz All Khan, leader ANNOUNCEMENT BY SPEAKER RE: of the Lok Oal Parliamentary Partyforconfir- fORMATION OF JANATA DAL LEGISLA- mation whether the Members ·of Lok Dal TURE PARTY IN LOKSABHA Parliamentary Party had decided to merge with the Janta Parliamentary Party and if so, [English] to furnish to me a copy of the resolutior passed by the Lok Dal Party in this regard MR. SPEAKER: HQn'ble Members, on and the declarations from members belong- 10th March, 1989, I received a letter from ing to Lok Dallegislature Party In lok Sabha Prof. Madhu Dandavate stating. inter alia, as supporting the said merger. I ..., allied for fallows: from Prof. Madhu Dandavate the requisite information in terms of the Members of Lok "On 21 st February, 1989, a joint meet- Sabha (DisqualHication on ground of Defec- ing of the Members of •Janta Party in tion) Rules, 1985. I have since received the Parliament" and "Lok Dal Parliamen- necessary informationlconfirmation from tary Party" was held under my chair- Prof. Madhu Dandavate as well as Shri manship and it was decided to form Mohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan and am satisfied JANTA DAL in Parliament through the that the conditions of merger stipulated in the merger of these two parties. Tenth Schedule to the Constitution have been fully met. I, therefore. accord recogni- Earlier on the same day, at two tion to the JANAT A OAL as a Legislature separate meetings of members of the Party in Lok Sabha for purposes of the Tenth respective merging parties in Parlia- Schedule and Rules thereunder. ment, devisions to merge were also taken .. .1 request you to recognise in the Lok Sabha this newly formed The Members and Office bearers of the JANATA DAL." Janata Dal in Lok Sabha are as foUows:- 1. Prof. Madhu Dandavate Leader 2. Shri S. Jaipal Reddy Deputy Leader 3. Shri Mohd. Mahfooz Ali Khan Deputy leader 4. Shri Het Ram General Secretary 5. Shri Ram Bahadur Singh Treasurer 6. Shri V.S. Krisllna Iyer Chief Whip 7. Shri Thampan Thomas Dy. Chif Whip I. Shri H. M. Patel 8. Dr. V. Venkatesh 10. Shri S.M. Guraddi 11. Shri Vijay ·Kumar Mishra 12. Shri Sambhajirao Kakade 13. Shri K. V. Shankara Gowda 14. Shri Shantilal Patel 15. Shrl Ram Naraln Singh 16. Ch. Khurshid Ahmad 4T1 ~te. CHAfTRA21,1911 (SAKA) Legis/ative Patty 478 FotmIlIlon 01 JMafa lJaJ InLS.

[Eng/ish]

SHRI SHANTARAM NAIl( (Panaji): J It is irrelevant. am raising a point of order. They cannot be a Partiamentaty Pa1y under the rules. They PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: You can be for the purpose of Tenth Schedule. worry about your own party. Don' wony about others. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN lliE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN lliE MINIS- [ Translation] TRY OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAI):· What about Mr. V.P. Singh? (/ntenvptions) SHRt BALASAHEB VIKHE PATIL (Kopargaon): Mr. Speaker, Sir, parcel MR. SPEAKER: I do not know. He is a wagon has not been made available at Member of the House. Manmad station for the last 15 days. as a result of which grapes are getting rotten SHAI SYED SHNiABUDDIN (Kish- there, nobody attends to complaints and the naganj): Sir, I was elected as a Member of Railways are not making any arrangement the Janata Party and you know my position. for its transportation. I continue to belong to the Janta Party. [English} MR. SPEAKER: You are there. Kindly look into this and dired the Rail- SHAI KAlPNATH RAI: Does Mr. V.P. ways. Singh not belong 10 the Janata Dal? I Translation] MR. SPEAKER: I do not know. I have given the list to you. You see the list. SHRI ARIF MOHAMMAD KHAN(Bahraich): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have PROF. MADHU given a calling Attention Notice. The situ- DANDAVATE(Ra;apur): For your informa- ation in Jammu-Kashmir is very grave. tion I can tell you that you have received letters from Mr. V.P. Singh and other also. (English]

MR SPEAKER: What I have done. I MR. SPEAKER: I have written to them. have done. We are taking action.

( Int8l1tlptions) [ Translation]

SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK: Under the First of alii am considering his notice. rules. 55 Members are required to form a Then I will consider your notice. I wilt con- Parliamentary Party and 30 Members are sider them one by one. required ...... ( Int9rruptions) ( Translatbn)

MR. SPEAKER: As it Is a stat. subject. MR. SPEAKER: Who told you. Don' I find a bit difficulty In admitting the notices apeak of YOW' own. regarding law and order problem. 471 APRIL 11, 1189

(Interruptions)· RAL GAS (SHRI BRAHMA DU11): '"tD layonIheT.... }- [Eng,.,,) (1) AcapJcI"'OIIndustry~ MR. SPEAKER:·Don1record. Papersto menl EmpIopes' (IleaIh-aa- be laid. Retirement) GnduIr (Amend- ment) Rules. 1188 (HnI .... Engish versions) 'PubIIhed it 12.03 hra. NotificaIion No_ G.SA 398 tEl in Gazelle of India ~ .. 3CIh PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Mardt, 1989 under sub-saction (3) of section 31 d the 01 Indusby [English] (Development) Ad.. 1974• ..,... in LbaIy. Sse No. LT-772tW89) Detailed Demand. for Grant. of the lin- Iatry of Parliamentary Affair. and the (2) Aoapyd1he Detaiad Danandslor Ministry of Information and Broadcasting Grants (HincI and EngIsh ver- for 1989·90 sions) of the ..Iistry of Pelroleun and Nalural Gas tor 1~. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- (Placed in barye See No. LT. TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTRY OF IN- 7721189) FORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI H.K.l. BHAGAT): I beg to lay on the (3) A statement (Hindi and English Table a copy each of the following papers versions) (i) mnactillg the rapIy (Hindi and English versions):- given on the 11h MaIch. 1989 to Unstarrad Cluestion No. 1655 by (i) The Detailed Demands for Grants Sarvashri Ramashray Prasad of the Ministry of Parliamentary Singh and Kammodilal JaIav Ra- Affairs for 1989-90. [Placed in ganling opening of LPG ag&IlICies library. 599 No. LT-7718/89J in U.P., BNr, Madhya Pradesh and Delhi and (i) giving reasons tor (ii) The Detailed Demands for Grants delay in awracting the rapIy. of the Ministry 01 Information and (placed in IibraIy SeeNo. LTT122J Broadcasting for 1989-90. [Placed 89) in library Sse No. LT -7719/89) Notlflcatlona under Cualoms Ad 1962, 011 Industry Development Employees eIc. (Death cum Retirement) Gratuity (Amendment) Rule. 19B9, Detailed THE MINISlER OF STATE .. TtE Demand. for Grants of the DEPARTMENTOFEXPENDITUfE ..THE Ministry of Petroleum and MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI 8.K Natural Gas for 1989-90. GADHVI): on behaI of Shri Aji p~ I beg to lay on the TabIe:- Statement correcting reply to usa No. 1655 da~ 7th March 1989. (1) A copy d the foIowing Nodica- lions (Hindi and Engish versionS) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE under section 159 of the CustomS MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND HATU- 1d.1982:- -Not recorded. CIWTRA 21, -1~911 (SAKA) PIIpIH'I LaId 482

(I) 8.0. 229 (E) pubIshed in GA- _Englsh versions) published in ~cllndiadlll8dthe271h Maft:h, Notificatton;No. G.S~R. 3n (E) in , ...... 8I!'axpIanaIory Gazette 'of India dat~ ' th~ ~ __1duIn laying down the March, 1989.under au~) .....claxchallg8torconvaraionof of section 47 of ,~e Gift-Tax ~ catain foIaign aImIIlCies no In- 1958. [placed in Ubrary See No. ._. CU'I8IICJ or vir»-versa tor n26189] ...... cI_a II rnant ,cI.impoIts ... axporIS_under Section 14 of (4) A copy of the 'Wealth -Tax (Re- the Customs kJ, 1962 ad calcula- moval of DiffICUlties),Order, 1989 tion cI stamp duty underthe Indian (Hindi and EngHsh versions) pu~ a...,1d, 1899. (PIacad in library. 6shed .in Notification No. G.S.R. See No. LT. 7723189) 378 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 23rd March, 1989 under sub- (i) G.S.R 371 (E) published in section (2) of section 47 of the- GaztCte of India cIaIed the 23rd Wealth Tax AI::t,1957. [.Placed in Mareh. 19891oge1har with an ex- library. 599 No. l T n27/89] pIanaIory memorandum rescind- ing Notf'ICaIion No. 7O-Cus. dated (5) A copy of Notification No. G.S.A. 1he2S1h March.1978 and 132-Cus. 366 (E) (Hindi and English ver- daled 1he 2nd July, 1980. (placed sions) published in Gazette of India in I.bary See No. l T 7724189] dated the 17th March, 1989 to- gether with an explanatory memo- (ii) G.SA 372 (E) published in randum reg$rding exemption to Gazelle of India dated the 23rd His ExceUe~ W. Domba 'Jean March, 1989 10geIhar with an ex- Marc Palm,l Minister of Foreign pIanaIory rnernoraMtum making Affairs of Burkina Faso and other certain amandmenIs to NotIic:ation members of delegation who visited No. 106-Cus.. dated the 1st March, India from 20th 21 st march, 1989 1989 so as to wthdraw auxiliary from the payment of foreign travel duly COlIC as sions on specIied pri- tax, under seCtion 41 of the FI- IR8IY products a1dlndustrial pIOd- nance Act, 1979. [Placed in ucts nported flam Nepal. (Placed library. 599 No. l T n28189] in LinIy See No. LT 7724189]

(2) Acopr oItha Income-tax (Removal (6) A copy of the Notification No. 01 DIficuIIies) Order, 1989 (Hindi G.S.A. 374 (E) (Hindi and English and Englsh versions) published in versions) published in Gazette ,of NoIiicaIicWI No. G.S.R 376 (E) in India dated the 23rd March, 1989 Gaz.aa 01 India daled the 23rd together with an explanatory MM:h. 1989 ...... sub-sadion (4) _ memorandum rescinding with ef- cI section 298 cI the, Income-tax fect from 24th March, 1_ Ih8 Id, 1961. [Pleased in I..bary See Notification No. 13171 -CE dated No.. LT 7725189) the 25th February, 1971 under sub-section (2) of sect jon 38 of the Central Excises and Salt Ad, 1SM4. (3) Acaprclthe GIl-Tax (RemcMII of [Placed in library~ s.. No. IT ,.,.... )0Ider.1989(Hindiand 7729189J Papers Laid APRIL 11. 1989 P9IiIion Ra. LsglIIIiDn 484 banning ~ CtJscn_

eopy of Resolution Conetltutlng of 12.05 hr.. TelecornmuOlcatlon Commission COMMITIEE ON PRIVATE MEMBERS' THE MINISTER OF STATE ·IN THE BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS MINISTRY OF COMMUNICATIONS (SHRt GIRIDHAR GOMANGO): I beg to lay on the SIxty-fourth Report l Table a oopy of ~vernment Resolution No. 151112187-Cab dated the 10th April, 1989 [English] (Hindi and English versions) oonstituting a Telecomm~nication Commisslon.[Plated in SHRI M. ~I DURAl (Dhar- library See No. 1730/89] mapuri): I beg to present the Sixty-fourth Report (Hindi and English versions) of the Review on The Working of and Annual Committee on Private Members' Bills and Report of North Eastern Electric Power Resolutions. Corporation for 1987-88 and a S~atement showing REASONS for Delay in laying These Papers COMMITTEE ON SUBORDINATE lEGISLATION THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF POWER IN THE MINIS- Twenty-second Report 1R'f'OF ENERGY (SHRI KAlPNATH RAt): I beg to lay on the Table:- [English]

(1 ) A copy each of the following papers SHRI KJ. ABBASI (Oomariaganj): I beg (Hindi and English versions) under to present the Twenty-second Report (Hindi sup-section (1) of section 619 A of and English versions) of the Committee on the Companies Act, 1956:- Subordinate legislation.

(ii) Review by the Government on the working of the North Eastern 12.06 hrs. Electric Power Corporation lim- ited. Shillong, for the year 1987-88. PETITION RE: ENACTMENT OF LEGIS- (ii) Annual Report of the North LATION BANNING LOCKOUT, Eastern Electric Power Corpora- CLOSURE, ETC. tion limited, Shillong, for the year 1987-88 along with Audited Ac- [English] counts and comments of the Comptroller and Auditor General SHRI BASUoeS ACHARIA (Bankura): thereon. I beg to present a petition signed by Shri Rampada Chakraborty. General Secretary, (2) A statement (Hindi and English All India Confederation of Mercantile and ..-sions) showing reasons for de- Commercial Employees, Calcutta and oth- lay in laying the papers mentioned ers regarding enadment of legIslation ban- at (1) IboV8. [Placed in Lbrary See ning lockout, closure, indiscriminate use of , No~ LTT731189] computers, contraCt system of employment 8Ic.. 485 Reported dtlathi'dus CH~ITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) 10 meningitis (C.A.) 486

CALLING AITENTION TO MATTER OF WELFARE (KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE): URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE Mening~ meingitis is caused by • bacterial infection and has been accruing Death. due to meningitis repeatedly in 'several states of the country. The States where relatively a large number [English] of cases of meningncoccal meningitis have been regularly reported during the last four SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S years are Bihar. GUjarat, Maharashtra. Ra- DEO(Parvathipuram): I call the attention of jasthan, West Bengal and Union Tarritory of the Minister of Health and Family Welfare to Deihl. The number of cases and deaths the following matter of urgent public impor- during the last four years are as under: tance and request that he may make a statement thereon: Year Cases Deaths

'Reported deaths due to meningitis 1985 15.755 2216 particularly among tribals in Sri- kakulam and Vizianagaram districts of 1986 10,382 1899 Andhra Pradesh and some parts of Madhya Pradesh and Bihar and the 1987 9,080 1596 steps taken by the Government to check the disease." 1988 14,690 2289

12.07 hr•• During 1989, .even States/Union Terri- torie. viz. Andhra Pradesh, Madhya [MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chaiij Pradesh. Bihar, Orissa, Gujarat, Maharash- tra and Delhi have reported cases of Menin- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE gococcal meningitis as well as deaths. The MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY number of cases and deaths are as under:-

State Cases Deaths

Andhra Pradesh 792 136 (23.12.88 to 31.3.1989)

Madhya Pradesh 1620 158 (1.1.89 to 3.4.89 )

Bihar NA 185 (upto 10.4.1989)

Orissa 2951 344 (upto 2.4.89)

Gujarat 586 102 (upto 3.4.89)

Maharashtra S84 109 (upto 4.3.89)

Delhi 329 58

Meningococcal mtningitis affects the conditions. The disease is spread from human brain. The dis_ affects the poorer doplets from nose and throat of infected sections of IOciety ·Who live in unhygien~c persons. APRIL 11,1_ to meningitis (C.A) ...

[Kumari Saroj Khapard.] Issued to Stat. Gov$f1\mentsAJnion T.n- torY Administrations regarding pnMnIIon The control meaau,... for meningococ, and control of meningococcal nwnlnglllL cal meningitis consists of the following:- The National Institute of Communlcllble early reporting ~ cases by para Diseases had deputed experts to visit 1M medical health personnel so that all affected districts in Andhra Pradesh and , suspected cases are treated in Madhya Pradesh and also advise the s.... hospitals; Governments regarding surveillance and treatment. A team is currently visiting the constituting medical teams to visit affaded districts of Orissa and Bihar. the affected areas to detect and diagnose cases; The units of Central Council of Re- search in Hornoeopathy (CCRH) in Andhra treatment d patients by providing Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh. Bihar and suitable drugs viz. Crystalline Orissa have also been activated to under· Benzyl Penicillin and Choram- take study-cum-treatment of Meningitis phenicol; cases with homoeopathic medicines. The work is in progress. vaccination of .medical and para- medical personnel who attend pa- The Government of India is In constant tients in hospitals' and casualty touch with the State Governments and is departments; providing technical advice and als~ arrang- ing the supply of vaccines for use among providing protection to persons medical and para-medical personnel in who may come into contact with hospitals and dispensaries who may be patients by giving them sulphadi- engaged in the treatment of patients. azine. SHRI V. KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO: Vaccination has no role to play in the Mr. D~puty Speaker, Sir. as is evident from , control of the epidemic. The vaccine is not the Statement that has been read out by the useful in children upto two years and even Hon. Minister Meningitis has taken a toll of for adults booster doses are required every nearly 10,000 lives during the last 4 years. year. However, vaccination has been rec- Figures also show that even this year, from ommended by experts for medical and para- December 1988 to April: 1989, during the medical personnel who handle patients. last 4 months about thousands 1ives have been lost due to this dreaded disease. The Meningococcal meningitis vaccine is not manufadured in the country and has to Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Hon. Min- be imported. The National Institute of com- ister also mentioned in the Statement that municable Diseases (NICD) has supplied the disease affects the poorer sedions of 50,000 doses of vaccine to Andhra Pradesh society who live in unhygienic conditions. and 45.0p0 doses of vaccine to Madhya Unfortunately. Sir, it has been the turn of my Pradesh.,- constituency in Andhra Pradesh the two districts which have been mentioned. In my 'The Djrectorgeneralof health Services notice, Vizianagaram and Srikakulam~ich had held a meeting on 6.1.1989 with offICers have had to bear the brunt of this attack. The from endemic States. Guidelines have been main people who have been affected by this 489 Reported dHths dug CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) to meningitis fe.A.) 490 attack d Menignitis are the trb81 population control Of the epidemic and that is predsely in th_ two districts. whyyou have sent 50.000 d08S8S to Andhra Pradesh and 45,000 doses to U...,. THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRY (SHRI Pradesh. What was the sense of ..ndlng J. VENGAl RAO): Recently I also visit«Mf this these vaccines if they had'flo effect on the area. disease? It is also mention8d in the stat. ment that vaccination is not useful in the SHJ:uV.KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO: case of children uptotwoyears. Well, it might I am glad that the Hon. Minister for Industry be so. I·am not aware of it. But I would like to has also visited the affeded areas during his mention here that so far most of the causali- visit. What I would like to mention is that the ties happened to be adults and not children. first case actually took place in December. 1988. It was on 26th "December when the The figures in the statements say that first incident took place i.,' a village called one hundred and odd deaths have taken Babbidi where 12 tribals died on one single place in' Andhra Pradesh. But I am aware day. Then this disease reached endemic that a least 250 people have died in these proportions. On the 18th January 1989, it two distrids of Andhra Pradesh. This area was known to the authorities that this dis- happens to be my constituency. I had been e888 had taken an epidemic form. But the there during the ten-day recess that we had, Director of the National Institute of Commu- when parliament was not in session. I also nicable Diseases visited these areas only on knew ' that there were several cases which the 14th March 1989. There was a gap of two were not reported. months between the identification of the disease as an epidemic and the visit of the Mr. Deputy Sp"aker Sir ~ t~ay people in Director. The authorities indentified thi~ these areas are living in a ,state of panic. This meningococcal meningitis as the cause for disease affected parts of Delhi in the early theM deaths. But it was only two mo~thf Eighties. And I am t~~ that it too.k five-y... later that the Director of the Institute vi.ed to control and 8radi~te the dis8~se. ~ in the _areas. capital city itself, where you have so ,m.ny infrastructural facilities. so many dOctors Mr. Deputy Speaker sir, in her state- and medicines and national institutes to look ment 'in para 5, the hon. Minister has said after the ~ple. it could take five years to that vaccination has no role to play in the control the disease. you can very well imag- control of this epidemic. If vaccination has no ine the plight of the poor tribal population role to ptay in ttit control of this disease. why' living in these remote backward areast are 1he vaccin.s sent to the para-medical perapnnel? ~reover, in the very same What is more alarming is the after-ef- par~graph it is 'also said: fecta that this disease can cause. I had been to some of the hospitals where there were wever, vaccination has been rae- more than 500 patient. who had this attack. mended by experts for medical and I was told by the doctors there that the after- ~a-medical personnel who han~le effects could be ' very serious. The _'er- patients.- effects could be very serious. The after- effects or the repercuSSions can be sub- This is a contradiction in the same para! It is conjudival h¥mormage. cranium paralysis not correct to say that the vaccine has no role leading to deafness, herpes, arthritis and to play In the control of the disease. The psychoais. Ther. may be sewnlother after- vaccine has defin~ely got a role to play in the effeds which can actually dIIIbIe the pa- 491 ReportBd deaths dUll APRIL 11.1989 to tnIIningitis (e. A.) 492

[She V. Kishore Chandra S. Deo] nity. So, from the Ministry of Welfare you could get some Central Assistance by way of tients permanently afterwards'. So, this is not funds to see that these families . ~ .. , only a question of preventing the patients affeded \ or w.ho '-, have died due to thia , from t.tf(t ultimate fatal consequence of the mentingitis attack can be rehabilitated or,can diseasl but also proteding the patients be provided better nutrition or other facilities. ~gainSi Ithe after-effects which can cause I am sure it will go a long way in controlling i~eparable' harm to those people who oome the disease and health. Because I am told from very poor sections of society. that mal-nutrition is one ofthe basic reasons.

Mr. Deputy Sp68K9r. Sir, In this stat :' In the meantime, they have been giving ment, it has been sa1rl , that the National capsulp.s for oral medicines. The names are institute of, Commu''iicable dises"', es has mentioned in the Statement. supplied 50,000 doses of vaa;ine to Ai idhra Pradesh. Now, as I have already mentioned, 'reatment of patients by providing I personally feel that this vaccine has a vital suitable drugs viz. Crystalline 6enzyf ,role to play even though. the Minister herself Penicillin and Chloramphenicol. h;lS said that this vaccine is not effective. Since the population in these areas in I do not know whether there is enough spread in very very backward regions where supply of these medicines. it ls difficult for other people to have access anC;t since , these people are also not fully So, the Central Government could aware of meningities and its reprecussions, probably see that these medicines are also they may npt,.be able to come and report the despatched until they can provide the other disease in time. 1l\erefore, I personally feel vaccinations actually to control the meningi- that first of aH;more number of doses should tis bacteria. But I would like to have an be supplied tu, vaccinate not only the tribal assurance from the hen. Minister thai" she population who have been affected by the would send at least five lakh doses for these disease but ais~ the non-tribals in those two districts because they are very-very 'areas. backward districts. The population is only 15 lakhs to 20 lakhs. Certainly the population Sir, in my village, in the Primary health which covers this area which has been af- Centre, there were about 200 of these pa- fected now are living in panic, in fear of

tients.I The hospital was closed for outsiders getting this idreaded disease and losing their and the same is the case with many other lives would be at least five lakhs. Then I am hosp'itals over there. So, the regular medical told that this also requires refrigeration. It relief work has come to a standstill because has to be kept under certain temperature. of this problem which has come. Nobody Temperature control has to be there for this knows how long this will last. vaccination to be effective. In ths context also I would like to know what measures the Secondly, I would also like to appeal to bon. Minister would take. The State Govern- the hone Minister for health to talk to her ment is already seized of the matter. I am told counterpart in the Ministry of Welfare. After that th$y have already decided to fight this all. fortunately or unfortunately,ithe affected disease on a war footing. But their hands are people, the people who haJe died. the tied without these vaccinations because people who are today in the hospitals are these are imported vaccinations which are basic8ny tribala-a majority ~f them are not available locally. They are not available tribals .belonging to one partiqular commu- in any other regional C~ntr&S. All have to 493 R~ deatlJs due CHAITRA 21, 1911 ($AKA) to rnfJII1ngitis (e.A) 494 come from ,Delhi. Now, tn. problem Is'also clearly shows t~ it was -spread In thoee SArMding tb other States. The Chief Minisr areas first in the year 1985 and it has come tat of,Madhya Pradesh had made it Stat~ u~ 1989; a~~n 1989, the pe~naalfected m~nt.ltha$ also gone to Bihar. Today it is in were 1100 fro December upto April. ThIs. ~ · Andhra Pradesh, i tomorrow it can go to an official' figu~ ; it ~ be more than thla. It Assam or it can go to Punjab or anywhere has created panic ~t only among the else because people keep travelling. And SC&ST people but also tribals; and most of with the communication facilities having the affected people are tribals. The Minister developed, this can also spread because the has stated in her statement that 'vaccination ·incubation perkxl is about 10 days or 15 has no role to play in the control of the days. During this period, y<»u can not detect epidemic.' I do not know what factors what ·the disease is. Ultimately when it prompted the Minister to say this, because, comes, many Qf the patients I am told, get at the same time, she has also stated that high fever. somettmes tRey have some 'The National Institute of Communicable sense of vomiting and then within 4e hours, Diseases (NICD) has supplied 50,000 doses they die. So, by the time you diagnose and of vaccine to Andhra Pradesh and 45,000 detect what is all about, it is too late to do doses of vaccine to Madhya Pradesh.· Is it anything. Therefore, it is a very-very serious not a seH contradictory statement? if vaoci· threat and it is a threat to the ethnic minori- nation has no role to plaY .in the control of the ties-th9 tribal$. Jf--it continues to spread in epidemic, than where is the sensa of sand .. an epidemic form, it may also threaten the ing so many doeses of vaccine to Andhra extinction of these ethnic minorities in these Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh? On page 2 two distr;·cts. of her statement, she has stated as follows:

Therefore, I would like the hon. Minister "The control measures for menin- to ~ssure me that she will send enough . gococcal meningitis consists of the doses of vaccination and other infrastructu- following:- ral facilities and that she would also speak to her counterpart in the Ministry of Welfare to early reporting of cases by para see that these affected tribals get sufficient medical health personnel so that all help from the Central Assistance Fund suspected cases are treated in which may be at the discretion of the Minister hospitals; of Welfare or Home Minister. constituting medical teams to visit SHRI M.R. SAtKIA (Nowgong): Mr. the affected areas to detect and Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Minister in her diagnose cases." Statement stated that from 1985 to 1988 meningitis Cases have been reported from This was started right from 1985, but they Bihar, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Raja~han, visited the affected areas in 1989, after a West Bengal and Union Territory of Delhi. laps&,of four years. This is the way how our The casualty fjgure was round about 8000. Government functions. The most surprising thing is that the Director of NICD woke up It has ,not only spread over in those only the other day to pay ·visits to' some affected areas and an experts team was also areas by also other parts of India especially \ Andhra Pradesh, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh sent to examine the disease in the affected and Maharashtra. It clearly shows that no areas after a lapse of four years. Than on effective measures have been taken by the page 2 of her st.?tament, she further states Government to prevent this disease. It also as follows: a» ...... (CAJ -

[Sh.1I.R.~ Thedelllhtal ... I'8IIChea ...... ~1i.., ...... afAasambulonlf._ .. .".,...111 ~ ...... , SIb or .. 01 last month a ~ of ...... -. ...,capne"a.~~FP'R lis'" has~"" ___ orcouns, heeld...... ~... baIongto..,...... orapoar ...... we ...... r WOIIdng in .. 01 ..... ~alllbusJaIh. This-=-____ What" 1ha IIWJIhod ,"'iMiIIC.·' aid IIOIr can you pd8cIpeopIeflanl"8IIacI~1his ...... ,bied~contact ..hDn...... d __? Can you mendon ~ 1hII? but ... unfom.NIe aspactis... the pIIienI Tharaba. f UIg8 upon .. Gower ••• _ to clad. He was ayoungman"",,~to con\eb~_ ~onIr""""'--­ be maniad onemonlh 1aIca.1... pained to Ul8S\to prMad people flam1ha eIIad of.. saythal ....1ingIis hastraveled as far 85.., d..... but also to conbuIlhis d [I SO 10 Ass.n also. Who knows? TIient III8J be thai it would no longer ....D'" f8IS far more daaIhs.. The most surprising' I naI of the counby. II has era.a d I8Iic aid horriying ...,act. is thai the vaccine does havoc among the ..... sactions of ... nat have my spacial tole 10 play in" tie peopIe~ 1beraIore. some eIIacIMt maas- pIlMMlIiDn 01 the dssasl as sIaI8d in the ur. nat only to conIroI the diSIE 8 should statamentbolh 0Ith8m---ba.qa.-. sonia be taken by 1ha ~ but also 10 figwes and stated thai SO.OOO or 8O.~ prevent the people from the eIIa1 01 this cases have bean reported. disease so thai this disease mar nul spread 10 other parts of the counby. What I request the hone Ynistar is to saethatthis particularvacdna isproducad in SHRI PARAG CHALIHA (JorhaI): The India. lkoow that one vaccine costs about statement made bytha han.. MinisIar makes Rs. 100 or so which is beyond the means 01 a radIer hoi I lying reading. Alotal ilwil show the poorer sections. llaafore. the Govern- thai in the COIA"S8 of 1ha last tour years as nail should take urgenIand effective meas- many _ about so.OOOcases ...raportad ~ tv -see 1haI supply of this v.:ciI. is and the daaIh toI was abouI10.000 and sill ..... the reasonable na:b of the people. mora horriying 818 on page 1. allhaballom. saralRs.5orRs. 10nlnacass8IJaome that in thrae rncdhs of the ,.111111 year fr_ -Wi. should be made _ an emer- about 8.000 to 8.000 cases hava been re- gency..._... ported and the deaIh 1101 has already reached abouIl8.000 evan; Secondly. the research ad devaIop- mantwing. orwhalaverbody is1hera. shouIs' DR. KRUP~DHU 8HOI: (Smt- make aI out aIIorIs to poduce this vCMX:il. baIJu): What type of lI1aniligilias; hera in India. I netsssaJy in coIIaboraIian ... mmetoraign firm orspacia&ssd 1abora- SHRI PARA(; OWJIA: • is written tories or a reputed concern. here. I am nat a medical ...... you. Thinly. why should this vacdne and .MR. DEPU1Y SPEAKER: Why ana you ~.. be .. only from Delhi? Why diverting him? should we nat hava some regional or pari- sionaIl-naI SIal. wise and evan distrir:I SHRI PARAG OWJIA: I am nat a ...... s?Ofcourse. weanIIJI medical ...... I ~ thai it is _iligiiIs. 8Ip8d apoor1rilal vilage10 ...... That is ..... common ...... _ .. and I ..., Md ..... regions in ... c:oa.e, represent a CDlllmon ...... onehastobetraval almost ...... _ ,."..",...... awrRA21. 1111 (MK4 ...... tcAJ -

__IDatID ...... lindal ...... flam the han.. r Ihe ...... , G the ...... lMGoNrI...... blingimpDltadflam.i ...... andthe .... On ....~Iaiating and - ... the ...... 10 .... _ ...... 1IX8IsfuI .. a ow tI...... _ .....10 ...... _ ...... , piOduce", medciI.. in the COlIn- aIID.. I ..JIPDft ...... Mill._ and Iry.. AIe_inpaslial.1Dsaylhat.. would be ..~_a ....lD_thehoni- ablalOpmduce ...... vacdi. in a,... .,.. 6cI G 1his gtowill9 da. as In 1988 G.l'fIO? • has ..... raported in some newspa- the tallllUnbar of cases raported is about pers and one of our coIeaguas also staled 1~"'''' -1I1J hon.. friend and colleague 1haI _ is a medicine in Homoeopathy ...... onIr the aIIciaI .... - raported systamwhichcanplOVidatamponuy reliaf1D n....., ...... of lie paIiInl SuI ~ medicine is WI""'" C888L I is raadIiIlg n--=ing being used at a vart small scaIa~ Homeopa- pIapOItioI .. and I UIg& upon ·tha HeaIh thy cIspaa .... should be opened in the ...." 10 take immedia I E action .... to do araawhich ..poneto ~ilis.sothal a SOIIIIIhqJ tal" 10 sq, the ...... , raiaI can be provided 10 the pa- ....l1li of this disease. IianIs.. Liwasal many people can be saved in this ...... The House should be apprised to the measures to be taken in this regard. The Gw:Ja...... of InOla extends ~ 10 SHRI HARISH RAWAT (AJmora) Mr. mnboI the epidemics. Blf tueaucraIs are OafUy-Spaaker. s.. this is my third oppGf- baing appoinIad in the office of DiIaca tu.., cbing the last three years to speak on General HeaIIh Services. The vacancies a s.ne subject but iI is regralt8d 10 say that maanI tor technical personnel are ather .... 01 measures taken by the Govern- kaept vacant 01 baing filed with the person- marc. the sIuation is what it was in the nel bebllgiIl9 to lAS. or OIhercivi services, begiming. The rnosquiloas which earlier as a rasut of which not only resentment is ueadtospread malaria now spr..t meningi- beamg among the medical specialists but tis 100. InspiIa 01 the use 01 mecticides. we are deprived of their CCHlp8I'8lion and MDsqubs menace is incraaUlg raIher ~ in the ma8ar. A buraaucral can do only a..dacr8asing. The mosqu"_ nl8flaC8 in rouma woak 1M the people may require the big c:iIies has asswned such a serious pr0- 8XJ*I opinion on iL I would Ie 10 know the portion lhallhe Government have net been number 01 posts of Additional Directors able 10 invent any ,.. afIactive insacticide agama which non-medical personnel have which could axdroI this rnanace.., Some been appoinIad•• has been found that the p;dcuB .eas of the counby are alladed numbarat p8ISOI1S who sale fake medicines by tis disease every year. I would Ib., has me as e d in the meninglis affected know whaIhar the YnisIry has identified area. The Slate GovammanIs should be those~ areas which ant affected by oonsulad 10 chadt this ~. A pati- the clsaase almost avery year.• so, the nanI 1Mes madicnas whatever is readily GlMnIllR8fll can pIOVida vaccine as a pre- avaIabIelO him tor raIief. The medicine is not .... measure wi in advance. As my "" , ' .. mUIicienI quantiy. Many other ...... 1IaI8d hare. 1 MMJId also lui to rait- pnJbIems also come in the way evan if it is ...... vacciI. is imported from Japan. oIhaiwisa .. , hI8 soma __e. A poor The han. IIniatar .. sIaI8d in the House .... camaI aIIaId 10 bull.. There is lad( of ...... eIIorIs ..... being made 10 feeing of chdr ...-.g the people. The IIIaka paIucIIon 10 .. mecIciI. wiIhin 1he GoveIIIIII8III is also nat in a poeIion to cIs- caunIIy ...... 8bdad to ...... ofcost.. TheSlalaGovemments ...... 1would Ike D __ ...... whoIa ...... bul1hay 499 RfIPOI18d deaths due I APRIL 11, 1989 to menlngilla (C.A.) sao

[Sh. Harish Rawat] effective steps ·are baing taken by the Gov- ernment in this regard? are also not in a position to do this. In such circumstances, fake medicines are doing [English] roaring biuslness. I would like to know the steps the Government is proposed to take to KUMARI SAAOJ KHAPAADE: -I share educate the people and to check the trade in the Concern of Members regarding deaths fake medicines. The situation in Delhi is so on account of meningococal meningitis in worse that at least one case of death due to several parts of the country. The Govern- administration of contaminated glucose is ment of India is monitoring the situation and reported almost every month in the news sending experts to advise the State Govern- paper. I have got bottle for sample. ments regarding prevention by providing drugs to the relations of the patients and [English] treatment of the patient in the hospitals. The State Governments are responsible for pro- MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You cannot viding medicare in the tribal areas by open- show it like this. ing primary health centres and sub-centres as per the norms of the Government. SHRI HARISH RAWAT : Wit~ your permission, I can hand over to the hon. My good friends. Shri V.Kishore Chan- Minister dra 000. asked about providing lreatment facilities in his own constituency in Andhra MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: You can Pradesh. For providing treatment facilities hand it over in her office. the State Government have deputed medi- cal teams for providing diagnostic and treat- [ Translation] ment facilities. Besides that. health educa- tion measures have also been undertaken so that patients are brought earlY to the SHRI HARISH RAWAT: It was stated primary health centres for treatment. by the Government that an enquiry would be instituted into the reported tjeaths due to About the request of the State Govern- administration of contaminated fluid or glu- ment for sending the team of experts, the CX)Se, but the said enquiry has not so far hon. Member complained that the team was been completed. With the very first glance of sent by ICD after two months. I want to this battle, even a layman can say that ,the inform the hen. Memberthat the request was patient cannot escape death after adminis- made by the Andhra Pradesh Government trating the injection of this ' contaminated for sending the team of ex~rts sometime in glucose. Markets are flooded with such type the month of March, 89 and the team was of medicines nowadays and are being sold sent on 11th March, 89. o~nly without any fear. What steps are proposed to be taken by the Government to In my statement which I made just now check this malpradice. It is absolutely very in the House, I have men!ioned that vaccina- essential to check trade in fake medicines of tion has no role to play and still I would like to Meningitis but it is more essential to check maintain the same thing because-again the trade in fake medicines of other diseases according to the experts-vaccination Js not which are being carried under your very found to be useful for children belowth. age nose in Delhi . These medic.,es are being of two years. and even for adults, booster given to people even In Hospitals. What doses of this are required every year. How- 501 RIIpOtfed deaths dUB CHAfTRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) to meningitis (C.A) 502

ever, ,vaccination is useful as a preventive SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: But you measures to be used among .persons ex- say it should be done. posed to high risks, namely, family members of the affected persons medical and para- KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE: We try medical personnel who attend to the pa- our level best to do it but these are the norms tients ... the instructions given by us.

( Int9ffuptions) SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: Norms in the village sites are mainly to be broken, to SHRI V KISHORE CHANDRA S. DEO: be observed. Sir. If I may intervene, the situation is so serious and grave now that this disease is KUMAR I SAROJ KHAPARDE: Sir, I now spreading like wild fire. so, that is pre- can just say here that we are trying to sort out cisely why I said that vaccination is neces- the problem in various villages. This is en· sary. Seoondly. you will appreciate that the tirely dOll'le by the State Government. We are children oontract is from the adults. So, the trying to help them in every possible way. vaccination may not be effective on the chil- That is ¥/hat I can say here. When such dren but children get it from the adults. cases a" detected, we always try to Initiate I Therefore, if you can control it among the immediat,e treatment through hospitals and adults, among the relations and people who dispensaries. All mass media we are trying are in close contact with them, then naturally to involve in educating the public in early you will also prevent the children from get- detection and reporting the cases for treat- ting it. ment in hospitals or other medical facilities.

KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE: Sir. Hon. Member of this House Shri whether adults or children, those who are Chalihaji mentioned about the vaccines. I coming in close contact of the patients. we would just like to mention a couple of things always try to look after them. which were raised by him.

The seoond han. Member of this House. Regarding the cost of vaccine, I may Shri Saikiaji mentioned about the protective inform the hon. Member that the cost of measures taken for this disease. I would like vaccine is Rs. 8 per does. Vaccine is su~ to mention here that sufficient stocks of the plied by the State Governments. The Na" injectable penicillin, Ampicillin. etc. should tional Institute of Communicable Disease be made available at all treatment centres to imports the vaccine and supplies to the State meetthe situation. All the Medical Officers in Governments. Shri Chaliha made some hospitals, dispensaries, Primary health observations while mentioning about the Centres, should be very vigilant for early disease in the House as also the status of detection of miningococal meningitis vaccine production in the country. I would ... ( Interruptions) like to mention that vaccine is primarily rec- ommended for medical and para medical personnel and members of the patient's SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY: (Mid- family. Taking into account the fact thatthe napure): But is it being done? number of cases has been varying between 10 and 20 thousand cases, during the last four years, the requirements of vaccines KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE: Yes. we would be approximately one .lakh. It is not are doing it. economically feasible to establish manufac- 503 RtJpotted deaths due APRil 11, 1989 B.A.C. RepoIf 504 to meningitis (C. A.)

[KumarJ Saro) Khaparde) Ranchito send the team to affected.,.. for treatment and distributi()O of prophyt8ctIc turing capability for producting small quan- medicines. tity of vaccines, Therefcn. vacdne is being procured with the assistance of World The Team has already started their Health Organisation as and when required. work recently. Prophlatic Medicine is de- These is no difficulty in procuring supply cided according to symptamatology of pa- from ·intemational market. tients. The medicine which covers a large number of patients in an area is "Prophylac- Sir, a very knowledgeable and active tic· to that area. Particularfy in Bhopal we han. Member of this House, Shri Harish started recently. Rawat, has made certain observations while speaking about this particular deases. He Sir, I think the hon. Member has raised has mentioned that meningities is caused by the issue about the post of Additional D.G. in mosquitoes. I would like to mention here in DGHS office. We have appointed a person this House through you, Sir, that menignities from outside-that is what the hon. MeMber is not caused by and spread by mosquitoes was mentioning here. I would like to mention but I would mention that meningities effects here that we do not have a single officer the human brain. AS I have stated in my appointed from Q.tJ_tside in the DGHS office. statement, the disease affects the poorer section of the society, particularly those who On the rest of the things which were live in an unhygienic conditions and that is raised by the han. Members, I do not think I how the disease spread. should answer them. I would like to answer them, but those questions which were raised SHRI V. KESHREO CHANDRA S. by the hon. Members are not connected or DEO: Sir, I do not think that the disease related to today's Calling Attention. spreads in the poorer section only. The dis- ease does not differentiate between poorer sections and the affuluent section. May be it BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITIEE spreads more in unhygienci conditions. It spreads more easily in slums. There have Sixty Ninth Report ben no instances where rich people died due to this disease. (English]

KUMARI SAROJ KHAPARDE: I was THE MINISTER OF PARlIAMEN· mentioning that by and large this particular TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- disease was affecting the poorer section of FORMATION AND BROADCASTING the society. I do agree with the hon Member (SHRI H.K.l.BHAGAT): Sir, I beg to move: that this disease affects all sections of the society. That this House do agree with the Sixty ninth Report of the Business Advisory Sir, Shri Harish Rawat was mentioning Committee presented to the House on

about the homoeopathic treatment of the 10th April. 1989. If meningities. I may point out that there are a number of effective'medicines in homeopa- MR. DEPUTY·SPEAKER: The ques- thy for the treatment of meningitis as well as tion is: prophylcic. C.C.R. H has already directed Ita units In Bhopal, Jaypore (Orissa) and "That this House do agree with the 605 CHAITRA 21 t 1911 (SAKA) RuItIS77 508

Sixty-ninth Report of the Business SHRI 'NITYANANDA MISHRA (80- Advisory Committee presented to the langir): Acute scarcity of drinking water in House on the 10lh April, 1989.- Bolangir district, Orissa, has aeated serious and alarming situation. This has been ThB motion was adoptBd caused by scanty rainfall and severe drought conditions prevailing in this area for a number of consecutive years. All the tanks, [English] bandhs and surface water reservoirs have dried up and the subsoil water level has gon8 PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: (Ra- down. The surface wells have become dry japur) Sir, has he laid the rest of the portion and a large number of tubewells have b&- of the Thakkar Commission's Report? come defund even though the peak of the season is yet to come. Expehs and engi- MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I Think what- neers apprehended such shortage of drink- ever is on the agenda, if you have seen it. ing water and gave clear warning from mid Decemberwhen the water level was found to THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN- be receding fast to extremely low level. 80- TARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF IN- langir town with a population of sixty thou- FORMATION AND BROADCASTING sand has already experienced acute diffi- (SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT): Sir, if the House culty because the drinking water supply agrees, we shall rise for Lunch at One Clock. system has already failed to deliver even one fifth of the normal requirement. Steps as MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Will the advised by the experts and technical hands House agree that we adjourn at One 0' have not yet been taken. The district devel- Clock and re-assemble at Two O'Clock? opment board demanded a sophisticated rig for deep tube well installation which has not SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes, yet been provided. Immediate steps have to be taken out only to augments the water MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: All right supply but also to make alternative arrange- ments for the transportation and and supply (Interruptions) of drinking water to Bolangir town through a fleet of tankers. SHRI H.K.L.BHAGAT: Thank you very much for agreeing to rise for Lunch. I request the Union Government to look into the matter and render necessary assis- 12.58 hr. tance to the State Government

MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Now, it is 1.00 p.m [English] we adjourn for lunch and re-assemble (I) NMcI to .n.. ,. adequate drinking at 2.00 p.m. _ter aupply to Balanglr district of Orl ... 13.00 hours.

MR. oEPUTV SPEAKER: We shall now The Lole Sabha adjoumtKl for Lunch til take up 'Matters under Rule 3n. Shri' Ni- Fourteen of the cIodc tyananda Misra. 507 APRI..11.1_ ",.377 508

.,.". Lok SIIbha ,...."""...., Lunch ...... in ....old or n8W villages and in at s.w.n ",."",.,.., Ioutteen 01",. .._, 1111 .,gRJUped witt a.population of c:id ...... 250 by the end of seventh five ,..plan. T'Ie CenIraI Government should [MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the CIIIIIJ ..,...... raquRdfundsof Rs. 200 crores under kc all 1111_ Rural Water Supply Pro· MATTERS UNDER RULE 3n-00IfTD gmmn ...

[English) (II) ...... 10 provide financial a.- IIIAIIIce to the Government of MR.DEPUTYSPEAKER:ShriN~ ...... for tuba.. lI. In Chaudhary-not present. Shri Virdhi Chm- drought .necl8d area. of Ra- derJam...... [ Translation] SHRISHANKARLAL{Pali): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. as a result ot the decision of the (II) Need to provide funda for Central Qwemment to the effect that finan- supply ofwatar In vi...... cial aI Eistance could not be provided for In9 In Bermer, J.I_I...... canyirv 8UIV8Y and boring of tubewells Jodhpur districts of fill..... since .... 1988. the farmers living in han under Accelerated Rural ba:ktMrd and drought prone areas of Ra- Wate, Supply Programme jasthan have b:een deprived of the opportu- nities to make progress. The Government SHRI VIRCHI CHANCER JAIN should give serious thought to the problem (Barmer): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. the and shouIdt*8 the decision to provide more Central Government and the State Govem- funds to Rajasthan bv way of loans and ments made efforts to make a permanent grant-in-aid fnr boring ttmeweHs. otherwise solution to the problem of drinking water in the funds puvided in the past would be of no about 1,61 ,722 problem villages in the coun- usa In this WtI/. the schemes will remain try under sixth and seventh five year plans iK:Ol1lplala and the farmers would be disap- and the Central Government made a1loca- pointed. tion of a consid&rable amount of money under Central Accelerate Rural Water Sup- (Iv) Need to start work on Koel· ply Programme. But in spite of all this, there KM» ttydro-elactrlc proJed are still some remote and inaccessible des- ert and hill areas where the inhabitants have SHRI SARFARAZ AHMED (Giridih): h to travel a distance of about 10-15 km. 10 is nine J88IS hence that sanction was given fetch drinking water and where water is tor setting up KoeI-Karo Hydro-electric Proj- supplied in tankers during the summer sea- actala.hataNagpwin Bihar. It is estimated son. thai 710 MegawaIt pwrer will be generated from this PIoject. A case of land acquisition There are about one thousand villages torthe pmjactwas filed in the Supreme Court in Barmer, Jaselmer and Jodhpur districts bul1he case was kept pending in the court, where drinking water is yet not available. evan 1hough the landowners had agreed to New revenue villages have ~n formed by pnMde land on the intervention of the State grouping hamlets in these desert areas. and Govammenl Now 1ha court has given their the Government of Rajasthan have not yet judgemenI in favour 0I1he Government As ..nt those schemes to the Central Govern- the case has not been 88IIIed by the court, ment for its approval. land acquistion pIOC88dings should be initi- aIad ill.nedialeIr. Delay in regard to the So I would u.ue upon the CenIraI Gov- Pmjectsof naIionaI importance is a matter of ernment to take measu,.. to pnwIde drink- ...... Whleanone ..... auchdelays ...• CHAITRA 21, 1SU1 (SAKA) Rule 377 ,110

late the total coit of the profect, on the other washed away by River Brahm_"utra;l1tiS. hand it' also deprives the country of the going on unattended to both by the Viiiori··' benefit which it could have had on the com- Government as well as by the Stat. pletion of the project. ment for the last 20 years deSpK. i \~Go. . demand to protect the place and the'P8OJ)It I, therefore, would like to urge upon the living there. . , Government to take ~mpt necessary ac- tion in respect of land acquisition to complete The area in question'is a thickly pop~­ the Koel-Karo Hydro-electric Project. lated and most of the people are'agricultur- ists by profession. The people are very poor [English] and they have to suffer due to naturalcaJami- ties like floods, droughts, erosion and other (v) Need to construct a perma .. natural phenomenon in season and out of nent dam along bank. of river season. The people of the area, including Ganga In Gan) Doondwara, the elected representatives of the.' peop18 Tehsll Patlall, District Etah, have been moving from pillar to .post to Uttar Pradesh protect the erosion-stricken people for a long time but nothing has been done so far. SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOZ ALI KHAN (Etah): Tehsil Patiali in District Etah (Uttar I, therefore, urge upot:l the Union Gov- Pradesh) is in my Parliamentary Constitu- ernment to come forward to protect the area ency in which village Qdar Ganj and other in question in the interest of poor people villages are located on both sides of River living there. Ganga. When River Ganga is flooded during the rainy season, the villages and the crops (vII) Need for step. to avoid delay are damaged. Unless a permanent dam is In Issuing passports In Karala constructed along the banks of River Ganga, these villages and their crops cannot be PROF. P.J. KURIEN (ldukki): Th8~ is saved from destruction. The Government of inordinate delay in isSuing passports in India is requested to constructed a perma- Kerala While in other States, a passport is · nent dam along the river bank to save these issued in two to three weeks, in Kerala it villages. takes anything between three to six months. Because of thi~ delay, a.i8rge .number of people who get job offerS In foreign countries (vi) Need to check the erosion by lose them. This is causing serious discxm-I river Brahmaputra from tent among the peopl~ in'the State. Chapar to Chanderdlnga In District Dhubrl (Assam) One of the reasons for this delay.'is said ' to be the shortage of staff in the Passport SHRI ABDUL HAMID (Dhubri): Office in Coehin. Hit is true, immediate steps Continuous erosion of River Brahmaputra should be taken to appoint necessary staff in which has taken place from Chapar to Chan- this office. ' derdinga, the length of which is about 10 km. in the District of Dhubri, Assam, has posed a great threat to the life and property of the I woukl request the Government to people living in the nearby areas. The ero- realise the seriousness of this problem and sion has already damaged and swallowed a take all necessary steps- so that the present huge area. Thousands of people have been , delay in getting a passport is obviated. Direc .. rendered homalasa,and landless. Even my tions may be issued that passports should own village Puthimari has been on the verge be Issued to applicants in Kerala ~hin two of extinction as most part of it has been to three weeks. . Sf1 APRIL 11, 1989 d ThItkIta- 612 Commlalott

( Ttanslarion) "That this House do consider the Interim Md Anal Reports c:A the (VIII) MMd to develop Kola.shwarl Thakkar Commission on the as- hills In Hazarlbagh District of sassination of Smt. Indira Gandhi, BII_ a. a Tourist Resort the late Prime Minister, and the Memorandum of Action Taken .aHRI YOGESHWAR PRASAD YO- GESH (Chatra): Mr. Deputy-speaker, Sir, I thereon, laid on the Table of the would Ike to raise this important issue here House on the 27th March, 1989-. under rule 3n:- Shri Rameshwar Neekhra to continue Kolaishwari hUts at Hatarganj block of his speech. Hazaribagh district of Bihar is very important place from religious, cultural and secular [ Translation1 point of view. The temple of Kolaishwari Devi, which is situated in the captivating hilly SHRI RAMESHWAR NEEKHRA (Has .. region of Chhota Nagpur is vary attradive hangabad): Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I am and rare place of tourist significance. Kolaishwari Devi finds a mention in the continuing my speech today as the proceed- Puranas. ings of the House were adjourned yester- day. I am pained to note that the opposition The temple of Kolaishwari Devi is built in has resorted to a walk out at the time of such a single piece of rock on the hills at the height an important disucssion in this House, which of 2000 to 25000 f.. t and generally attracts is considered the highest temple of democ- thousands of devotees of debotaes every- racy and where elected representatives of day. These hilly ranges have been the place people sit and such important discussions of meditation of prime significance not only are held. When we go out, people ask us the for great Hindu devotees but also for the Jain reasons for wasting a lot of time of the Tirthankars and Buddhist monks. In these hills there is a big water reservoir which is House. Why do you ask us to present a perennial source of water. Every year, thou- report on which you are not prepared to have sands of Jain and Buddhist pilgrims visit this a discussion. why do you resort to walk out place. But it is a matter of regret that there is when the report has already been presented no proper approach roads to reach these in the House. hills from the main l'Qad near Chatra or from the G.T. Road. And because of it, the pil- Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, this is not the grims have to face a lot of difficulties to reach first time, but for the last nine years that I this place. This attractive and rare place of have been observing it in the House that scenic beauty amidst the hills may be con- whenever there is a discussion on an impor· verted in to an attractive tourist spot. I, there- fore, urge upon the Government to develop tant issue, opposition finds nothing to sayan Kolaishwari hills as a tourist resort. it. Then they stage a walk out from the House as they have no argument to support them. A few days back, it was demanded in the House that in Bofors case an enquiry should 14. ~7 hr•• be made by a Parliamentary Committee and when the Government agreed to it they MOTION RE: INTERIM AND FINAL demanded the Cha;rmanship of the commit- REPORTS OF THAK~ COMMISSION- tee for them. The opposition again staged a CONTD. walk out at the time of disucasion on the [E.. hJ report of the Parliamentary Committee. They refused to taka part in the discussion MR. DEPUlY-SPEAKER: The House when they saw that there is no ground for thai now taka up further discussion on the them to "make aIlegation • ..counter allega- loIowing motion moved by Shri Buta tions on the basis of report and the m_S do believe them. did the .... Singh.. on the 10th April. 1989. ~81y:· also not They 513 AfotJon ,.. Int.rim & CHAITRA 21 f 1911 (SAKA) oIThakIw 514 \ FmaJ Repotts Commissbn ' thing when reports of other Commiasions Thakkar has leYelied ~ ..againIt SlId c.na. Even 10day they demanded to pres- Dhavan and has .pointed toMuds him • ent the report of the Thakkar Commission needle of suspicion...... for argument whk*l has already been leaked in the news .. sake, I may agree to their point. but .Shri papers. But after announcement regarding Thakkar has himsel mentioned In the.report the presentation of report they started lev- that to clear the suspicion about Shri Dha- elling charges that the actual report will be van, I recommend that the Government can tampered with. When the actual and whole get it investigated by any agency it ·wants. report was presented in the House, they are Anand Ram Committe. was co_luted on boycotting the House on the pretext that that recommendation. Th. r8port of ·that complete report has not been presented. committee has cleared Shri DhaVan of althe Now it has become clear to the masses that suspicion. On one hand, the opposition it is the complete report and the opposition is accepts that Shri Thakkar has cast suspicion wrong. because our Hon. Prime Minister has of Shri Dhavan but on the other hand, they do discussed both the issues in the House not accept that Shri Thakkar himself had deftly yesterday. For the last 3 years, the recommended an independent committee. opposition has been bent up on charader They do not accept the report of that commit .. assassination and now they say that they will tee and only try to create at atmosphere of not discuss the report, but will bring it to the doubt among the masses. They are spread- masses. I would like to submit that they ing rumours so that the common man, who is should first understand the mentality of the the base of democracy in this country. may . country. The whole cquntry knows about start suspecting. They didn't participate in \ your feelings towards 'late Shrimati Indira the yesterday's discussion in the House and Gandhi and how you had levelled allega- instead discussed it out-side the House. The tions against her when she was alive. How Government would have given a reply if they many c:ommis,ions you had instituted have indicated the fault of tbe Government. against her when you came to power and But they did not have any point to discuss. she had to appear before a number of Some of our friends, who were with us ear- commis::: ions. Even this fact is before the lier, now have croSsed over to the opposition people of this country that though she was on the pretext of morality. They all were in the voted to power by the people of cabinet upto 1986 and when the Report was Chikmagloor, you did not honour the verdict submitted by Shri Thakkar, he had reoom- of the people and chose to send her behind mended not to present it in the House in the the bars. You take the issue anywhere, but national interest. While in cabinet they had the people knoW it very weil l that you are brought an amendment in the Parliament by raising all the hue and cry fin the public taking decision on the report and that meetings only in view of the ooming elec- amendment was passed in both the Houses tions. You were unable to raise any valid of th~ P~;iiament. At that time, none of these issue within these five years. You had raised friends said anything of moralitY. who have such an issue just before the election so that now crossed over to opposition. After a lapse no one can ask it what you had done in the of three years, now they want to leYe' interest of the poor or have you prepared any charges on the basis of the report on moral memoranda or do you have any policy. They grounds. They want to level allegations have tried to tarnish the Image of the Con- against that leader, with whom they worked gresa Party and that of Sh,i Rajiv Gandhi. as a member of the cabinet. t ask these Theironly aim to raise the issue of this report people who are talking of morality that if you waa to create an atmosphere of doubt .had the slightest tinge of morality. you among the masses by separating the Con- should have demanded in 1988 lleelfthat the greu Party of Shri Rajiv Gandhi from the report should be presented. Even in 1986. it Congress Party of Shrimati Indira Gandhi. was leaked and published in 'India Today' When they saw that there is nothing benefi- and it was printed even in the 'Statesmen'. cial for them in the report, they said that Shri But at that time they didn't raise the issue. Motion ".. Interim & APRIL 11,1989 of ThaIcIcar 516 FinSi Reports Commlnlon

ISh. Aarneshwar Neekhra] $uapicion might tum towards them. What I want to say is that these people always them because they .knew that they will gain noth .. indulged in double talks. The report of the ing from it But now they think that something Thakkar-Natarajan Commission which can be gained out bf it at the time·of elec.. enquired into the Fairfax affairs was laid on the table of the House. The Thakkar-Natara- t~~ . ltwas . painful to note toe statement of jan Commission comprised of two sitting the P~esident of a big party some two-three judges of the Supreme Court, Shri Thakkar "days' back. He has stated that Shri Rajiv and Shri Natarajan and the report was . Gandhi wants to make a political capital out submitted by that commission. of it in the election. But it was y.ou who had But these demanded the ' r~rt to be presented, only people refused to accept the findings of the report. They said that the report deserved to you had made it an issue and demanded be thrown into the dust bin. It was alleged in discussion on it, you yourself had levelled the report that by appointing the Fairfax, false allegations and now when Shri Gandhi has given a fjtting reply, you have started efforts were made to sell the security of the saying that he is talking like that for political nation and national security was endan- gain in the elections. People of this country gered. The opposition parties did not accept such a serious report and demanded to very well know the person who had advo- cated the case of assasis of Shrimati Indira throw the same into dustbins. When the Gandhi and had filed mercy petition after the same Justice Thakkar submitted his second report, these people are now talking all th~se judgement recommending the death pun- ishment for the culprits was given the su- things about it. They demanded that the preme court. The people of this country will report should be placed at the table of the never believe them, because they know their House. When the report was placed they are not participating in the discussion. They talk affection for Shrimati Gandhi. I would re- quest the hon. Minister of Home Affairs so many things about it outside the House. through you that the point of involvement of From the prevailing state of affairs. it ap- a foreign hand should also be investigated. pears that there is none among them who May be that these people who are staging thinks about the country. There was none walk-outs might have conspired with the earlier and there will be on one in future. They wasted the precious time the House foreigners in this murder and now they are of afraid that their one or two friends will come by pressing for the submission of the report. under suspicion. because it is known to the When the report was submitted they did not whole House that the leaders of Janta Oal, participate in the debate. In this .way they Shri Biju Pattnaik and Shri George Ferrnan- throttled democracy in this country. They des were entertained as guests by General have threatened that they will take this issue Zia in Pakistan, who was a symbol of dida- to roads and streets. In reply, I would like to torship and military rule. His feelings about tell this much that we are the people who India are well known to all. The entire belong to the party nurtured by Mahatma House knows this thing that both of them Gandhi and Shri Nehru and we are the went ther. as their guests and they praised peo.ple ~ho. tread on the path shown by their hospitality. One of the leaders of their Shnmatl Indira Gandhi. We will also give party Shri Subramanyam Swami had also reply to their charges on the roads, in the been to Harmindir Saheb prior to the fields and in the streets. We know that in operation blue star and stayed there and Indian Cutture no one can succeed in isolat- after returning from there he said that no ing the son from his mother. They will not weapons and arsenal had been stored in suoceed in the isolating the Congressmen Harmandir Saheb. But after the Operation from Shrimati Indira Gandhi. Blue Star, large quantity of arms and ammu- nition were recovered from there. To-day [English] pafhaps they are. not panicipating in the discussion with the fear that the needle of PROF. SAIFUOOIN SOZ (Baramulla): 517 Motion Re. ....& ctWTRA 21. J$UCA) of Thakkar 518 F1nIII RtIpOIfs 1. Commission ,.. Deputy Sp.... Sir. finII at aI. I must ...... to right conclusions. From the very welcome hon. Prime Miniat.". lilt mant ~g under which the Thakkar which he made y8lleldar in .... House in- ~ had been working under pres- forming us that his GoNrnmaIC _decided ...~ '* is writ large in the Report. Since I to inquire into the leakage fI the ThaIckar ~ these recommendations are posi- Commission Report through. newspaper. t ...... I feel that the Government of India welcome that statement beaM_ whaI ,_ _ . ~ taken action on them. In fact', appeared in the Press has beenaglaling my _ci"'1ssues relating to Mr. Dhawan has mind all these days and I feel concerned i*Nt.. gone into by the SIT. So, action has about this leakage. In fad. tIMn was no been taken. I call the recommendations compulsion for me to par1icipale in the crlS- which are .listed in Page 146, 3.1 to 3.5 as cussion but after going through these two positive reCommendations, giving directions volumes, namely. the Interim Report and the to the Government do this and that. There Final Report oftha ThakkarCommissiDn. my are other but I feel that there are negative conscience pricked me that I must express elements in these recommendations. Why? my views on the subject. It is because the Commission has been obsessed from the very beginning with Mr. Prime Minista(s slatemenI has as- Dhawan. sumed great signiflC8nC8 becausealpeople wondered as to how there was a particular Mr. Deputy-speaker, Sir, I have not timing for the leak and how the leak could be known Shri R K Dhawan at all because in organised in this way. This leak has already 1983-84, I was not much known in Delhi and taken a very great ton of the time of the he was not accessible. Only a couple of days House. I feel very happy thal the Prime ago somebody pointed to him and told me Minister has come fonYCW'd to institute an that he is Shri Dhawan. But when I located inquiry. Shri Dhawan in the report, I felt I could locate Commission's obsession with Shri Dhawan I heard Mr. Gadgil's speech and also his in the report itsetf. arguments as to why it was not necassaryfor the Government to place the proceedings of You will be surprised that on page 146, the Commission on the Table of the House. when the Commission makes a set of rec- I am in agreement with Mr. Gadgllo a large ommendations, the Commission puts Shri extent. There is another reason as 10 why I Dhawan in the first paragraph, and here he feel very sad that the Opposition did not says: participate in the discussion. They fought a battle with the Speaker thai the entn Re- -it is recommended thatthe Central port, as they say full report inducing the Government should seriously con- proceedings, should be placed here. But sider the question of appropriate after the Speaker had given his ruling. they agencies to investigate the matter should have honoured thai and shoukl have as regards the involvement of Shri been here. I had the privilege of reading this R K Dhawan, the then Special Report. I fe~ that some of the recommenda- Assistant to the late PM in the per- tions of the Thakkar Commission .. very spective presented in the· report. • intriguing I have been applying my mind towards the recommendations IMde by the Then. there is note and then come other Thakkar Commission. I can say some rec- recommendations. ommendations as posIive recommenda- tions but in these posiive racommendatiDns The second reoommendations is: alsa. there are negative eIemenIs and those nagatlve elements h.. perturbed me. I feel "that the Central government may that Justice Thakkar had been working seriously consider the question as under great pressure. He has noI been able 10 the course to be adopted in re- 51. Motion Re. Interim & APRIL 11, 1989 d Thakkar 520 Final Reports Commission

[Prof. Saifuddin Soz] ister has assured us yesterday that he would institute a Commission it is a welcome an- gard to the matter pertaining to Shri nouncement and then we would s. wherI Mark Tully.... . the needle win move naturally, but .. needle that was moving with the Commis- Then. there is another recommendation re- sion and pointing to Shri R K Dhawan. I do lating to thEt question of so called -Republic think that somebody had a magnetic road of Khalistan·. Then, comes paragraph 3.4- and the needle was responding to the mag- that the Central Government may give due net, and the kind of pressure and persuasion oonsideration .to the matter regarding terror- with which the Commission was going ist training schools. about, the needle could not but point to Mr. Dhawan. Why should the Commission put Shri Chawan first? Hthe government had to look Now, Shri Dhawan has been implicated in to the terrorist activities, into the question for two things; one that he had in June 1984 whether any foreign country was involved in directed DCP and SSP in the name of Prime the assassination of Shrimati Indira Gandhi Ministerto redeploy Sikh security persons to and if it had to look to so many other impor- strategic positions. This is not correct. I have tant things, why Shri Dhawan should pre- gone through the report. Shri R K Dhawan cede an these recommendations? The could speak in the name of the Prime Minis- Commission focussed attention on Shri R K ter. He was working as Special Assistant. Chawan before anything else. There are so You cannot ask a Prime Minister or a Minis- many pages; Chawan here and Chawan tertogive in writing every orderthathe or she there. has to issue to his or her personal assistant. In this report, it is not proved that Shri R K There are only two allegations which Dhawan redeployed Sikh gentlemen in se- the Commission has listed against Shri curity at the strategic positions. But Shri Dhawan for which he was implicated. I must Dhawan seems to have given a broad in- say it is not indeliberate, because the struction in the name of Prime Minister that Commission , in my opinion was working Sikh gentlemen should be available and under pressure and to that I will come later. present in the security positions. On that This is very unfortunate. An eminent judge fateful day, which was designed by the had accepted the responsibility. I have gone conspirators to be a particular day, it is not on record in this House earlier that their that the Beant Singh and Satwant Singh lordships have to be very responsible. We changed their positions under the orders of show respect to the Supreme Court. we Shri R.K. Dhawan. The Commission does show respect to all the judges. But whenever not say this. They had changed their duties they go wrong, it is this House alone which in consultation with the superior officers can raise questions. I feel, Justice Thakkar working in the security. But why did Shri has been working under great pressure, or Dhawan give instructions that the sikh gen- maybe he was motivated. From the very tlemen should be there. I think that Smt. beginning, Shri Dhawan seems to have Indira Gandhi was a very bold person. She been introduced to the commission and the wanted to run the country according to cer- Commission could not come out of that situ- tain norms. Her faith in secularism was very ation. great. So, she did not remove Sikhs from the security force. My conscience tells me that Finally. the Commission says that the she might have passed the orders not di- needle points to Shri R K Dhawan. I can rectly to the security men but to Shri Dhawan imagine that if you put a magnetic road in that since she could not see Sikh gentlemen ·your hand. and even if you cover the needle around, they should be posted there. I chal- with a glass, sliD the needle will move wher- lenge Mr. Thakkar's saying that Shri R.K. ever you move the magn81. The Prime Min- Dhawan put them on the strategic positions. 521 MotJon Re. ,,,,.,..,, & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) of Thakkar 522 FInal RfIIJOfIS Commission

That assertion is totany wrong. Mr. Thakkar even under the verttal orders of the then is atHI the Chairman of the Law Commission. Prime Minister. The Prime Minister does not I wish he comes forward to resign from that keep on giving in writing everything to do this post. I challenge Mr. Thakkar to prove that and to do that. So, did that change in the time Shri R.K. Dhawan gave instructions for put- of the interview alter the situation? Beant ting sikh security men, Beant Singh and Singh and Satwant Singh were there from Satwant Singh at those strategic positions. 7.00 A.M. Had Indiraji passed from there at The broader instruction given by the Prime 8.30 A.M. the same would have been the Minister could have been that she wanted situation because it was decided by the Sikh gentlemen in the security network. conspirators to be the day of her murder. So. Therefore, it is untenable and we just cannot the Commission has no ground to implicate agree with the Thakkar Commission that Mr. Mr. Dhawan. My conscience tells me that he Dhawan should be implicated because he is an innocent person and I have risen here had given instructions of that kind. Secondly, only to say something about that innocent even if it is true that he gave instructions one man out of the prick of my conscience. cannot implicate Mr. Dhawan because the Commission should have sufficient evi- Now, I come to page 141. This is the dence to prove facts. paragraph which must go on·record, just to prove how much the Commission was ob- The Commission has taken two very sessed with Mr. Dhawan and how it wanted flimsy grounds to implicate Shri Dhawan that to implicate him. The Commission pointed he decided and he got Sikh security men the needle towards Mr. Dhawan without tell- redeployed at strategic poSitions is not ing us his motive. How can this sensational proved. Second is that he changed the tim- recommendation be made? How could this ingforthe Irish T.V. interview. Here I feelthat paragraph be written at all? the paragraph the Commission was under some terrible reads: pressure that Dhawan has to be out. The point is that so far as these interviews are "While there are significant indica- concerned, a Minister or the Prime Minister tor as regards the possible involve- can change the timings fixed for these inter- ment or Shri R. K. Dhawan, the then views. You have certain circumstances Special Assistant to the late Prime under which you can postpone or prepone Minister, fhe motive which any programme. A Minister is not bound by operated on his mind has not be- what his P.A. says. He gives instructions on come sufficiently evident from the his won. The Irish team had to come at 8.30 material which has come to light so A.M. It was delayed and then the timing was far. The evidence regarding exis- changed to 9.00 A.M. Even if this was done tence of a motive which operates by Mr. Dhawan, it was part of duty. Where is on the mind of an assassin is not the proof that Indiraji did not tell Mr. Dhawan always easy to discern. More often as to what should be the time for the inter- than not, the motive may not be view? Where is the proof before the commis- known even to the victim. By way of sion to say as to what did he talk to the then an illustration, one ,may take the Prime Minister when he was coming from the case of a murder comm itted on PaJam Airport? The Commission has no account of jealousy. It cannot even substantial evidence to implicate Mr. Dha- be known to the victim-not to w.. on these points. Even if it is true that Mr. speak of others-that the culprit Dhawan changed the time for the interview, was feeling jealous of him for one It was between Mr. Dhawan and Indiraji. reason or the other. So also, at There is no proof that the Prime Minister did times, the motive may be known not agree to change the time. Whatever it is only to the assassin and no one the changing of time is no ground for impli- else may have come to know what cating Mr. Dhawan. He could change time gave birth to the evil thought in the 523 MotIon Re. Interim & APRil 11. 1989 of ThIIJdau 524 FItJaI Reports Commission

[Prof. Saifuddln Soz] Shrl Fotedar. They were very close to ... other when they were in the Govemment mind of the assassin. It cannot. together and the Commission had WOlle.. under the circumstances. be gain- under pressure f~,rn them. My conaclence said that evidence regarding mo- also tell me so. tive may often be beyond the reach of the investigator. All the same, a So far as Lnplicating Mr. Dhawan is sustained and deep probe with a concerned. the laak came at the same time views to unearth the motive may when Mr. Dhaw~n joined the Government. I well yield results in course of time have tabled a privilege motion against Shri notwithstanding the difficulties just NAhru and Shri f.-~. tedar, though I am not highlighted. " pressing it. But t s:i;: feel that they must get a chance to clear themselves, when the So, the judge does not know the motive. Prime Minister has offered a chance to them. But he want to deepen the suspicion in the Here, I feel sympathy for Shri Kalpnath Rai mind of the people of India that Mr. Dhawan also. I read his interview in Surya three is the man who has to be implicated, whether times. I honestly believe that he is speaking there is proof or not, whether we know his from his conscience. I agree with him. He is motive or not and whether we can prove that speaking from conscience. Take him in he was jealous of Shrimati Indira Gandhi or some corner and tell him "speak in _he name not. of your mother, swear in the name of your mother, do you find this correct? He will tell I reject this paragraph and the observa- you "yes, I feel the prick of my conscience tion as falsehood. I do not unders1and why that this is correct." I would advise him not to an eminent person like Justice Thakkar withdraw and say that he had not given an should go on record anrt say such things in interview. It has gone on record. It has been his report. taperecorded. Why I raise this thing? Kindly don't misunderstand me. I have nothing Sir, I can go on quoting so many para- against Mr. Fotedar personally or Mr. Arun graphs from he report to prove the Nehru. But one thing I want to remind this Commission's obsession with Mr. Dhawan. House that I knew the present Prime Minister But the point is, why did the Commission do for a long time now. I can teU you that he is a it? Well, there was a reason. Some people straight forward politician and he wants to were interested in sending Mr. Dhawan out run the politics of this country in consonance because they had to settle a score. I want to with national interest. This is my belief on Mr. say that the political of manipulation is re- Rajiv Gandhi. I want to remind this House sponsible for this. again that politics 01 manipulation will do no good to Congress Party which has the long It has already been pointed out by Shri tradition of service to this country. Therefore, Buta Singh in this House and by our knowl- when these manipulators are there. I want edgeable and able colleague Shri Chidam- Shri Rajiv Gandhi to be safe. He has a lot of baram in the Rajya Sabha that Shri Arun talent in his party ancJ, he should discard Nehru had access to this report because he politics of manipulation. was the Internal Security Minister at that time. Therefore, I feel that there is a fit case against Shri Arun Nehru and his close asso- [ Translation] ciates Mr. Fotedar for a breach of privilege. I have moved a motion in this regard. But the At their hatching a conspiracy at such a Prime Minister has given an assurance critical time and doctoring the Thakkar yesterday and so I might withdraw it. But I Commission to write iomething. I recollect a feel that this is a fit case for breach of Urdu couplet. I am not concluding, I need two privilege against Shri Arun Nehru and also minutes more: AIotJon FItI. interim & CHAITRA 21, ~ G11 (SAKA) of Thakkar 526 FInal Reports . Commission

'KhUda Banda, Ve tere $idha dil banda times of agOny in their minds. lcan quot.that kahan jayen.' letter but it will not be in Russelr. wor~ exac.1l)'. He wrote to Einstein -Don't worry, Iqbal had said this thing there may not a Third World War. there may not be any nuclear war in the world. A fort· -Khuda banda ye tere Sidha dil bande night ago I had a chance to talk too a tallest kahan jayen' leader of Asia, Jawaharlal Nehru. He has Ki darweshi bhi aayari hai aur Sultani assured me that he will rise to the occasion, bhi aayari" not only at U.N. but in all other world forums. He is the hope for the mainkind.· So Russell Anybody who is given a ministerial post or writes to Einstein that Nehru was the hope. given a high position plays mischief and the That is the legacy of your party. I hope Shri person who becomes a saint also plays Rajiv Gandhi will try further to be right heir to mischief. that grand legacy of Jawaharlal Nehru.

[English] THf MINISTER OF STATE' IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC So, I want Shti Rajiv Gandhi to be safe GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND MIN- with those who have commitment with ISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF India's unity and integrity; who are con- HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI P. CHIDAMBA- cerned with national integration and who do RAM): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise to not play manipulative politics. This is neces- intervene in this debate to highlight a few sary to remind you because you are the aspects which I think either have gon9 largest Party in this country. Still the people unnoticed or have not been quite clearly of India pin hopes on you, Maybe tomorrow understood. people send you back to power, you have to work hard to preserve norms of politics and SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA (Ahme- secularism. I have already reminded you dabad): The debate is not yet over. Many how a political party is using Hedgwar Cen- hon. members are to speak. So, you cannot tenary Celebrations to whip up communal- say that a few aspects have gone unnoticed. ism in this country. I appealed to you yester- day that you are secularist Party wedded to SHRI P. CHJDAMBARAM: So far. One the principles of secularism and socialism of the items of reference to Justice Thakkar, and, therefore, you please do not tolerate when the Commission was constituted, was manipulators in your party. You should to enquire into the sequence of events lead- uphold Nehru's legacy, Gandhiji's legacy ing to and all the facts relating to the assas- and now Madam Gandhi's legacy. Now that sination of the late Prime Minister. Another I have come to Jawaharlal Nehru, I will close item was whether any person or persons or with one thing. You must know how great . agencies were responsible for conceiving, your Party was and now great the Leader of prepairing and planning the assassination this country was. I came across a letter and whether there was any conspiracy in this recently which was written in 1955. I have behalf; and if so, all its ramifications. preserved that letter. How Bertrand Russell in 1955 wrote to Einstein that the only hope As the House knows, Shrimati Indira in the world was Jawaharlal Nehru. That Gandhi was assassinated in broad day light letter is with me. After the atom bomb was in the presence of several eye witnesses. produced, Einstein and others became The assassins were identified-Satwant conscious of the devastation that an atom ic Singh and Beant Singh. Beant Singh himself war could bring in this world.There would be died short thereafter in circumstances which no mankind around, they thought. No living have been explained by Justice Thakkar in being. So Russell, Einstein and other phi- his final Report and which has also been losophers in Europe were experiencing accepted by the court which dealt with the &27 AfoIion Re. Interim & APRil 11. 1989 Final R.potts

(Sh. P. Chidambaram] being the ._sination ~ IndIraII by two men within the compound of the PrIme case against Satwant Singh and other ac- Minister's house in the presence of -eye cused. AIhough Satwant Singh was appre· witnesses and the two men were appre. handed on the 31st Odober, 1984. Hon. heoooo and identified. Therefore, there was Members are aware that he was in hospital, no impediment to charging th_ accused literaRy struggling for this life. It was only on before the statutory period of gO days. In the the 15th November, 1984 that Satwant meanwhile. because of vigorous investiga- Singh was formally arrested by the police. tion the other two suspects in the case, Hon. Members are aware that under the Kehar Singh and Balbir Singh had also been Criminal Procedure Code, the investigation Clrested. has to be completed in an offence of this nature within 90 days of the date of the arrest During the course of its investigation the failing which the accused shall be released SIT had certain information that there was a on bail. It was not in the public interest to larger conspiracy and P$rhaps there were allow a situation to develop where Satwant men who had not yet been identified but who Singh would have to be released on bail. In had links with one or more of the suspects in fact, the people of this country would not the immediate crime. But it was quite clear have accepted such a situation; they would that the larger conspiracy was not confined have questioned the competence and wis· to the assassination of the Prime Minister but dom of the Executive Government if it al· had wider implications and had several more lowed a situation to develop where an assas- objectives in mind and involved perhaps a sin of a Prime Minister in a crime which took commission of a large number of offence. In place in the presence of eye witnesses in these circumstances, the SIT took resort to broad day light in the house of the Prime Section 173 sub-section (8) of the Criminal Minister was allowed to be enlarged on bail Procedure Code, which was introduced in because the police could not complete their 1974. As the law stood before 1974. this investigation. provision was not available and this provi- sion became available for the first-time only I shall give a few more dates which are in 1974. I wish to read just sub·section (8) of relevant. As I said, Satwant Singh was for- Section 173 in orderto meetthe criticism that mally arrested on 15th November, 1984. the SIT has taken unduly long time to unravel Kehar Singh was arrested on First of De- the second conspiracy and to file the charge· oember, 1984. Shri Balbir Singh was ar- sheet in that case. Section 173 sub-section rested on the 3rd of December. 1984. (8) says, and I quote:

15.00 hr•• "Nothing in this Section shall be deemed to preclude further investi- The 90-day period commencing from gation in respect of an offence after the date on which Satwant was arrested a report under SUb-section (2) has would have expired on the 13th of February. been forwarded to the Magistrate, 1985, and under Section 167 sub-section (2) and where, upon such investiga- of the Criminal Procedure Code the Investi- tion, the officer in charge of the gating Team was required to file its report- Police Station obtains further evi- ff it had completed its investigation--before dence. oral or documentary. he the 13th of February, 1985, failing which shall forward to the Magistrate a there was no way in which one could have further repot or reports regarding denied bail to Satwant Singh. such evidence in the form pre- scribed and the provisions of sub- As it happened, the Investigating Team section (2) to (6) shall, as far as was able to complete its investigation into may be, apply in relation to such the immediate crime, the immediate crime report or reports as they apply in Motion R.. Interim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) of Thakkar 530 Final Reports CommiSSion

relation to a report forwarded under nesses. Many of these witnesses have fol- sub-section (2).- lowed up their statements under Section 161 CRPC by making statements to a Magistrate The SIT intimated the Additional Chief under SeCti6n 164 CRPe. The conspiracy Metropolitan Magistrate on the 16th of Feb- wflich has been unravelled is perhaps the ruary, 1985 that it had filed a charge-sheet biggest conspiracy of its kind ever hatched on the 11th of February, 1985 against fout or plotted in independent India. Never before accused including Beant Singh, the de- was the nation threatened by a conspiracy ceased, and that it proposed to continue the of this magnitude. Never before had any investigation into the large conspiracy be- conspiracy objectives so horrifying as the cause several conspirators were at large. objectives of this conspiracy. namely, to This is a fact, which I thought I should share dismember India and to carve out an inde- with this House in order to dispel any well- pedent State based upon religion. A conspir- meaning or misconceived criticism that the acy of this nature would have to be carefully SIT has held back material when Satwant investigated so that innocent people are not Singh and other were charge-sheeted. No affected. material was held back. The chargesheet against Satwant Singh A 1, Balbir Singh A2, Sir, as the hon. Members are aware two Kehar Singh A3 and Beant Singh (de- of the key conspirators were S.S. Mann and ceased) was filed on the 11 th February 1985 Atinderpal Singh. 5.5. Mann. a former offi- within the statutory period of 90 days. The cer belonging to the Indian Police Service Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate head. because of the service to which he was informed on the 16th February 1985 that belonged and because of the position he the SIT proposed to continue the investiga- held, very strong links with a large num~r of tion into the large conspiracy and thus the people both inside Punjab and outside SfT had jurisdiction to continue the investi- Punjab. The other conspirator according to gatio" into the larger conspiracy. the chargesheet was Atinderpal Singh who had been appointed as Senior Vice Presi- Sir, it is now a matter of public knowl- dent of the AISSF by Amrik Singh. After edge that larger conspiracy had very wide Amrik Singh was killed on 0 operation Blue ramifications. As I said briefly in the debate Star. Atinderpal Singh assumed the office of on the motion of privilege, the larger conspir- acting President of AISSF. AISSF had been acy was not confined to an attempt to murder banned sometime in 1984 and Atinderpal Indiraji. The larger conspiracy included acts Singh went underground. S.S. Mann was of sabotage, acts of violence. kidnapping. arrested in December 1984 while he was murder, hijacking, blowing up installations trying to cross the Indo-Nepal border illegally w.il~.. explosives, spreading disaffedion and with false documents and by attempting to spre'ading communal hatred with the even- bribe certain people on the border. After he tual object of creating conditions under was arrested, a case was instituted against which according to the conspirators, the him and the case is now being tried in the Government of India would have to choice Court at BhagaJpur in the State of Bihar. but to concede to them Khalistan. That is the Much of the material which the SIT uncov- magnitude of the larger conspiracy. the ered during the course of this investigation conspirators travelled from Delhi to Bombay, has already been produced before the to Nagpur, to Indore, to Dewas to Calcutta to Bhagalpur Court in so far as it concerns Bhopal. to the Indo-Nepal border and back to S.S.Mann and the chargesheet which he is Delhi. They held meetings in Bombay, in facing in that trial. Shri Atinder Pal Singh, the Nagpur and in Delhi. They found many other key conspirator, who, acx:ording to the sanctuaries and hiding places. They as- chargesheet, brought together Jagmohan aumed different names from time to time. Singh alias Tony and S.S. Mann and. ac- 11wt had many many accomplices. In fact in cording to the charge.heat, did reconnais- the chargesheet. SIT has cited 311 wit- sance of Nagpur where both Indiraji and Shri 531 Motion Re. Interim & APRIL 11, 198Q d Thakkar 532 Final RfIpott. Commission

[Sh. P. Chidambaram] ter t $hri Rajiv Gandhi. that this conspiracy must be investigated to its roots and the Rajiv Gandhi were due to visit. in order to conspirators must be brought to book under attempt an assassination at Nagpur. Atinder the law. At the same time, we are wedd8d to Pal Singh was underground and he was the rule of law. We have placed no impedi- arrested only on the 4th of October. 1988. A ment in the way of any accused defending conspiracy of this nature cannot be entirely himseH. In fact, perhaps. in no other country unravelled and investigation cannot be be would you get a fairer trial than the trial of completed unless the key conspirators are Satwant Singh. Kehar Singh and Balbir arrested. Jagmohan Singh alias Tony and Singh. The trial judge convicted all the three. Dalip Singh had been arrested in some other The appellate bench of the High Court con- cases and had been let off on bail subject to, sisting of three learned judges, affirmed the I believe, certain conditions. Their presence conviction of all the three. In the Supreme in Bombay or wherever the court directed Court. Balbir Singh was acquitted while the them to be present, was secured. Mann was conviction of Kehar Singh and Satwant in custody. But the missing element was Singh was confirmed. I may be allowed to Atinder Pal Singh. Atinder Pal Singh was say with a legitimate sense of pride that it is arrested only on 4th October, 1988. In fact, to the credit of this Government that it ac- many of you may have seen him on televi- cepted the judgement of the Supreme Court sion when he went on television to make and did not even file a review petition. When certain statemerlts when he was arrested. Balbir Singh was acquitted, we accepted the Then we had to interrogate Atinder Pal judgement of the Supreme Court. When Singh. We had to verify his statement with Kehar Singh and Satwant Singh were con- other witnesses. We had to follow up on victed, we' accepted that judgement of the matters which he had disclosed by discover- Supreme Court also. We did not file even a ing things at other places. It took some time review petition. We accepted whatever the to complete the inv9stigation after Atinder highest court laid down as the final judge- Pal Singh was arrested. That is why, the ment. We placed no impediments in the trial investigation by the SIT was completed only of the accused. And I believe, they got the inthesecondweekofJanuary. 1989. In fact, fairest trial possible in any democracy func- I take this opportunity to congratulate the tioning under the jurisprudence that we yery dedicated officers belonging to the SIT, have. who have done a remarkable job of unrav- elling. perhaps, the most horrifying conspir- I may assure the House once again that acy that independsnt India had to face. After although it has taken us over four years to the investigation was completed in the sec- unravel the conspiracy and bring to trial four ond week of January, 1989, the SIT ap- accused-fifth accused is deceased-these proached tht::Government of India for sanc- accused will have the falrest trial possible tion to prosecute the accused because under our law. They will have every facility to sanction is, required for the prosecution defend themselves. This Government will under certain sections including 12A which ensure that they have the fair and just trial is the section dealing with waging war. I and Government will accept whatever ver- thought, I should share all these facts in dict is pronounced by the courts. It is in this order to dispel what I believe is miscon- background that one must ask again and ceived criticism from some quarters that the again the question why was the Thakkar investigation of the largest conspiracy and Report selectively leaked at the time when the laying of the second chargesheet was it was leaked and in the manner in which it deliberately delayed by the SIT. Nothing can was leaked. Unless we answer this question be farther from the truth. We had no advan- and unless each one asks this question and tage In deliberately delaying this investiga- answers this question and unless each tion. On the contrary t it was the determina- leader of the Opposition gives us an honest tion of the Government and the Prime Minis- answer to this question. this debate wHl S33 MotiorJ Re. Int«Im & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) of Thakkar S4 Fina/ ' R~ Commission never really end. The answerto this question not assessment that she has not been able .....nd I am convinced in my mind that the to acquire full control over,the lSI. The politi- answer to this question is -that the purpose cal wing of the lSI has since been dissolved. of the selective leak of a very selected por- may be the remnants of that political wing tion of the final report of the Thakkar are still active. There are forces within this Commission was nothing but to defied the country who will not hesitate to get ~Ip and attention and concern of the people of India assistance from our enemies abroad. We froom the real conspirators in the larger con- must identify these forces, we must expose spiracy. The idea was to point the needle of them. It is the sacred duty of Parliament to do suspicion against some person so that the that, to expose all those forces which will people of India will not focus on the grave destabilise and dismember India. It is a danger that threatens the unity and integrity matter ·of satisfaction that one conspiracy of this country, so that the largest conspiracy has been unravelled but we must be on our will be clouded by a mist of suspicion and a guard to ensure that no more forc~s conspire miasma of rumour and gossip. Fortunately, against India. I Parliament asserted itself, the Speaker- with great respect to the Chair-asserted I am grateful te hon. Members for appre- himself. Attempts to derail the discussion ciating the various actions taken by Govern- and debate were forestalled and once again ment in order to safeguard the unity and we have been able to focus the real issue integrity of India. I once again seek the which has to be Ijebated in this country. The support and cooperation of all seCtions olthe real issue is the larger conspiracy and the House to the efforts of the Government of forces which conspired in the d&rk to desta- India to safeguard India's unity. integrity and bilise and dismember India. Justice Thakkar stability. Thank you, Sir. had, sensed that there was such a conspir- acy, but in the nature of things, it was not [ Translation1 possible for him to unravel the conspiracy. That is why he relegated this responsibility to SHRI NARESH CHANDRA CWA TUR- the SIT. The SIT has discharged its respon- VEDI (Kanpur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, sibility with remarkable efficiency and first of alii would like to record my objection promptitude, and it is as a result of this effort over the Thakkar Commission report on that we have ben able to lay the charge- which we ar€ holding a discussion today_ sheet a few days ago. I would urge hon. Both Hindi and English versions of the report Members to ponder over the nature of the should have been laid on the table of the conspiracy, to ponder over the forces that House, but the Hindi version has not been are arraigned against us, to ponder over the placed. When they had sufficient time at their dangers that our nation and democracy disposal, the Hindi version of the .report face. Only a few days ago, while speaking in should also have been placed. the debate on a motion moved by hon. Member Mr. Bhagat, I identified an agency in Now I would like to congratulate our a neighbouring country which has helped hon. Prime Minister and would like to ex- and provided assistance to certain forces press a hearty welcome to him on my own which are intent on creating conditions of behalf and behalf of this august House for his instabil~ in India. We know that such forces speech of a historic importance. I feel that operate'ln Punjab and in Jammu and Ka- the speech delivered by the Hon. Prime shmir. I identified the Inter Services Intelli- Minister yesterday was not only very poign- gence in Pakistan as the agency which has ant but also thought provoking wedded with • nexus to both the terrorists in Punjab and ethics. The country which was passing to the ao-calledJammu and Kashmir libera- through a very peculiar circumstances might tion Front. It Is true that Prime Minister have heaved a sigh of relief after listening 8enazir Bhutto has tak9n several steps to and going through such a nice and balanced bring the activities of lSI under control but it sPeech full of moral value 01 its leader. The MotIon Re. Interim & APRIL 11. 1989 of ThakkM 538 FINII Repofts Commission

[Sh. Naresh Chandra Chaturvedi] Shri Arun Shourie. Editor of the Indian ex- press in his paper and placed by him before people of opposition also got a befitting the public. There was a talk that Shri Cha- reply. wan changed the time, he was walking at a distance of 1 to 2 feet behind. A sheet of Never before this, the Thakkar Dhawan's diary was published. There were Commission report was a subject of discus- only 4 words in it and it was given wide sion for anybody. An amending bill seeking publicity-the words were, foreign money, exemption from presenting the report to the Beant Singh, P.M.lRajiv. it is an the more House was also passed.without any objec- surprising the way justice Thakkar fabri- tions raised from any quarter. Nobody had cated a long story out of it. I know that when any objection to it. Today I feel pity for those responsible persons work under big people, people who now raising objection that, they they have to observe high standard of se- were not even shown the commission's crecy and face very odd problems and each report. I fail to understand how a person and every word written by them carries much could be able to muster courage to voice the importance and weight. rights of the people as a leader of the oppo- sition when he was not able or had not the Prof. Soz said that he was not well courage to wield his powers enjoyed by him acquainted with Shri Dhawan. He got ac- by virtue of being a member of the Cabinet. quainted with him now. I am among those The people of the country will never rely on people who know Dhawan since long. I know him. It cannot be so that people will believe from my own experience that there was no his story by considF.Jring him a botd, moralist, other person at that time who worked as the honest and effective person who could not personal assistant of Shrimati Gandhi and muster courage to express his feelings when who was so hone~t, so active, so far sighted he was a Minister. I have no doubt about the and so dedicated to his boss and so strong fact that the people of India and its common in his moral character. One thing I know very voters are more wiser. A common voter in welt that there has been no change in his this country makes very proper use of his devotion to Indiraji when she was in power inteHigence and wisdom. and when she was out of power. The makers of Janafa Party, who are having repeated I beg par®n for my submission about discussion on Shri Dhawan and the Thakkar the reference made b'J Justice Thakkar with Commission. arrested Dhawan is Kanpur. regard to Shri Dhawari. I have highest re- Several of them held ministerial posts at that gards for the Judges and can emphatically time. During that period most of us , had say that-how deeply we may discuss the courted arrest and were put behind the bars issue of corruption, but our Judiciary, espe- and Shri Dhawan had gone to Kanpur to cially the Supreme Court and the High Court meet his refative. He was arrested there. At are one of the best judiciaries in the world. that time Chawan was not their favourite. But the way in which Justice Thakkar in his They had a different outlook towards Shri report wrote about the involvement of Shri Chawan. ' Dhawan is highly objectionable. It looked like a case in which an ordinary policeman One more point was raised in Justice makes investigation and turns the needle of Thakkar reports that when the point of for- IU8picion to the direction that suits him. I felt eign money was raised no reply was re- _If It was not a comment of a justice. Had ceived. Shrj Arun Shourie made the interpre- • been the comment of a justice, it would not tation of P.M./Rajiv that Rajiv ji will become have come in their present form. the Prime Minister and Indiraji will be mur- dered. I was surprised to note that a very May I ask th6 learned and conscien- minor thing has been given an extra-ordi- tious lead81'8 mour opposition.s to why they nary definition. 'Only a sick mind of an editor held discussions on the points interpreted by of a newspaper can do this. It was also 537 Motion Re. Interim & 'CHAITRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) of Thakkar 538 Final Rsports Commission possible that the Prime Minister gave some ins of his mother are being levelled against message for Rajiv or directed him to ask the Hon. Prime Minister, Shri Rajiv Gandhi something from Rajiv. As such it is not justi- by the Members of the Opposition ;n the fiable to interpret the word P.M./Aajiv de- Parliament The politics of the country is parting from its real meaning. I felt that it was moving in a very unfortunate direction. Who not at all a good thing to throve so much of ~(gping to accept such allegations? What dust on such a good, true and honest person conclusions does the opposition intend to by sheer imagination. draw by diSCUSSing Shri R.K: Dhawan? The Opposition has malafide intentions of includ- 'would like to make yet another submis- ing the name of Shri Rajiv Gandhi in the sion. Several people made several argu- oonspiracy which led to the assassination of ments about the time of assassination. It was the late Prime Ministeron the grounds of Shri said that the time was changed and many R.K. Dhawan's reinduction into the Govern- people have desired to know how Beant ment service after a gap of 4 years. It is Singh and Satwant Singh put on duty. These indicative of a peculiarly sick mentality to are very minor things. At that time all steps speak in such terms. This ;s the sort of were being taken after giving due thought. vicious poiitics which is being practiSed in Shri Dhawan was totally a credible person different parts of the collntry. The' press has and every decision was being taken after brought down the entire matter to such a discussing the same with all the members of level that it will take a long to tide over the staff. crisis. It will be possible to do so only when there is national unity, integrity an~ security There is one more school of thought that of each and every individual of thi~ country he was walking at a distance of 1 112 feet and every Indian is able to live in this country from her. I cannot understand the point of with self respect and sense of security to their argument in it. People who used to which the Hon. Prime Minister has reaf- meet Shrimati Gandhi and who met her very firmed his commitment yesterday. The often can say this thing that no personal Congress Party is committed to this aim assistant walks very close to his boss. I which has been reiterated by the Hon. Prime never see this thing anywhere. I saw in- Minister and it has made me very happy. stances that whenever there was a need the There are several such issues about which personal assistance comes close to of his every information cannot be given. The ~$, asks about the point he needs and points which have been raised by the Mem- then withdraws. Dhawan followed the same bers of the Opposition parties are not con- principle and everybody follows this prin- crete. (saw it during the course of the Fairfax ciple. Whenever he felt the need of·asking affair and while I was a member of Commit- anything from Indiraji, he used to come for- tee on Bofors, I saw that whatever points ward and as soon he received the reply he were raised by the Opposition, were found to used to withdraw to a distant of 1 or 1 and 11 have no head or tail after sufficient investiga· 2 feet. I do not think that there should be any tions were conducted into them. The same scope for suspicion if the time of the inter- thing is being repeated today. The Opposi- view-of tne late Prime Minister with the Irish tion first demanded the presentation of the T. V. was Changed. Regarding some diary interjm report which was duly laid on the entries, such as foreign money. 'RajivlPM', Table of the House. Thereafter, they insisted they do ro~ allow any s~pe for suspicion. on the .-final ' Report whic~ has also been Again. intis enquired whether Beant Singh tabled. But still they are nofsatisfied. They was still alive or not, there ~uld aJs(;) be no want thedetails ofthe ~ing9 also to be scope fOi suspicion on ~is ~~,Jn fact, made public.. They want J~tiC$ Thakkar's the atmosphere Qf ·the c»uqtrv has deterio- in this rriatt8t.tlitbi.. 'nk ' th~t there ,..ed so muctHapd politicS has come down to clarif::!is no e to.. this nuiSan~. It is common s~ a low ebb thal al~ of doubt. know that in the cas, of avery appeal cotruption, bribery aOd proteCtlontheassas- made in the High Court or the Supreme 539 Motion fill. Intedm & APRil 11. 1989 01 Thakkar 540 Final Repotts Commission

[She Naresh Chandra Chaturvedij adS under pressure, it is not avery welcome sign and the Govemment should be more Court from the lower courts, it is the judge- vigilant about such matters. I agree with ment which is made public and not the entire whatever Shri Chidambaram has stated in proceedings when we have before us the his clarification· about the Report and the Commission's Report in two parts, part-I action taken on it by the Government, the being the Interim Report and part-il the Final reasons for delay to table the report and Report, there should nnt be any objection on about other legal matters connected with it. the part of the Opposition regarding their I can say only this much that the duty of the participation in this discussion. Since it is the Government is to ensure that people get election year, the Opposition has acted in an justice and the culprits are punished. The unprecedented manner. It is for the first time task is not completed after making a speech that such unruly scene$! have been wit- in this House but whether early or late, it is nessed in the House. The people of the the democratic system which will provide full Opposition resorted to squatting or lying protection to all the people of this country. down in frQnt of Mr. Speaker's chair, shout- late Shrimati Indira Gandhi is often the ing of slogans, tearing of important papers subject of our discussions. What was her a~tsn.tching the papers from the hands of reaction when she was hit on the nose by ~ hone Minister of Parliamentary Affairs. As stone? In her last public speech, she had pet the pr$SS reports, such unruly scenes said that each drop of her blood will contrib- were hitherto witnessed in the State legisla- ute to the unity and integrity of the :=ountry tures ~ut it· has been never before in his and it was immaterial whether she continued high8sl temple of democracy is Parliament to live or died in the process. On one hand, Even this thing has been done by our Oppo- we have this sort of sentiments and on the sition. De~e all thes' e things, if attempts other, her assassination is being misused by are made to usurp power by strangulating the Opposition for getting political advan- democracy and ignoring all norms of ethics. tage which is not proper. Whenever, the I.feel very apprehensive about the future of opportune moment came -their way to dis- India. cuss this matter they boycotted the discus- sion so that they: may not havs to face the I would like to submit through you that truth. I think that the role that is being played the importance of the Thakkar Commission by the Opposition in our democratic set up is Report has also been reduced due to this unwarranted. I would appeal to the Central very fact that the tone of all that whatever the Government that the people who ha~a hand Commission had stated in their interim in this conspiracy and war bent upon harm- Report had changed in the Final Report and ing this country, and about whom the ~ov­ they wiped out everything when it was con- emmant has definite information, shoutd be cluded with the recommendation that this summoned immediately and puni~ed. matter should be referred to a Speciallnves- tigation Team. After the investigations oon- With these words, I conclude and thank ducted by the SIT, the points raised in the you. Report have been negated because this team found Shri R.K. Dhawan to be innocent (English] towards whom I. needle of suspicion' was constantly pointed at in the Thakkar SHRI T. BASHEER (Chirayinkil): I Commission Repqrt. As a result, the impor- thank yoU for giving me an opportunity to tance of the Repo~ in my opinion. has natu- participate in .he· discussion on Thakkar rally been reduced. I agree with Prof. Soz Cbmmission ~eport. At. the outset, I would when he says that Justice ThaRkar worked like to ,say that the opposition is.not at all under some pressure to have been so ex- interested to know the truth. Their sole at- pfd ..... pItFpointmg his suspicions tempt is to take poDtiCal mileage. When we aga.inat • partiCular- p8rsQn and I a judge ~ this matter in this Hou .., they are 541 Motion Re. Interim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) of ThakkM' s.t2 Final Reports Commission

not present in the Ho~e. They have -boy- Sir, now the Opposition is shedding cotted this discussion. That itself shows crocodile tears about the ....eination of clearly that they are not genUinely interested our lata Prima Minister and ourgr" Laader to know the truth. But, they are playing a Sm1. Indira Gandhi. The people kt.ow what political game. they are dOing. What happened during the Janata Regime? Attemted to eliminate our We have witnessed in this House during great leader and· late Prime Minister Smt. the Session deplorable behaviour of many Indira Gandhi from the political scene of this opposition members. You have seen during country. We know that she was arrested; she many Sessions that they are not interested was kept in jail and all of a sudden how much in genuine people's demands. But, they will harassment she had gone through. How dig up some issues, they twist them and take much agony she had suffered? All these political advantage out of it. During this Opposition people were party to .it. They Session, when some excerpts of the were all responsible for that. When she got Thakkar Commission Report appeared in elected from Chickmagalur. it is these Oppo- the press, they started hue and cry. We saw sition parties which expelled Smt. Indira rampage by the Opposition in this House. Gandhi from the House. Wa allknowthal1he What was their demand? They demanded people of this country protected her. As I said that the Thakkar Commission Report should earlier. these Opposition people put her in be laid on the Table of the House. When this Jail. Again it was the people of this country issue came up, the hon. Prime Minister who protected her. The people stood with stated in this House that this report will be her. It is the people of this country who called tabled in the House. If their demand was her back to power. genuine, they would have welcomed that decision of the Prime Minister. They would J would like to say about another aspect. have welcomed that Statement. But nobody They are shedding crocodile tears now. did it. Instead of doing s~, some Opposition, What has been the attitude of the Opposition Members said that Government would tam- after the judgement of the Supreme Court on per with the report. That was the approach. the assassination of Indira Gandhi? Two SuCh irresponsible statements were made persons were convicted and sentenced to by certain important Opposition leaders. death. Did anyone from the Opposition side When the report was tabled, then the Oppo- say that law and justice has taken its own sition said that that was not the full report. We course? Nobody has said that. On the con- can w~ke up persons who are sleeping. But trary. many important Members of the Oppo- it is not possible to wake up persons who sition tried to create an atmosphere in this pretend to be sleeping. country that the assassins of Mrs. Indira Gandhi are martyrs of judicial murder. That was their attitude. Now what is their move? Sir, the hon. Minister Shri Chidamba- They are not at all concerned about the wider ram explain8d this aspect in detail when this conspiracy behind the assassination of Smt. House discussed a privilege motion by Prof. Indira Gandhi. They ara not at all concerned Madhu Dandavate. 'The hon. Minister ·ex- about the destabilising forces. the divisive plained in detail as to what had happened in forces that are working in the country. These the past 'regarding rePorts of the same na- people now want Mr. Dhawan's blood. Why? tura; what ~ere the past precedents in this These people tried t their best to get Mr. respect an~ what constituted the full report. Dhawan removed for their political pUrpose. The point is tha~ the Opposition will not be But they have miserably failed. So, they want satisfied w~h anything. Nobody could satisfy to finish his careor character assassination. them because their aim is very clear. They, The Report says and I quote: want to prolong this iS$ue because this is an election)'ear. So. theY want to take political 1118 Commission on its part. has in the advantage of this. It is a clear political game. course of it& expbratory exercise gath- sa AfoIion Re. Interim & APRil 11. 1989 of 'ThaIckar 544 Final Repotts Commission

(Sh. T. 8asheer] was the actual target of these forces. But. fortunately. we withstood that test and this erad certain material and on the basis country is fortunate that we have a young thereof formed the opinion that there leader in the name of the Prime Minister Shri are reasonable grounds to suspect the Rajiv Gandhi. We have a young leader Shri involvement of Shri R.K. Dhawan. the Rajiv Gandhi to protect this country. to pr0- then Special Assistant to the late PM. tect the interests of the people of this country in the crime.· and the unity and integrity ofthe country from the eJestabilising forces and to take this Seethe language, Sir. I would like to say that countrY forward. this is a verbal jugglery. Wrth due respect, I would like to submit that there should not be What is the Opposition doing? They are place for such jugglings in the document like not seeing these two pictures. They want to this which deals with a very serious issue. defeat Congress. Their only aim is to capture This Report never says that there is any power. We saw the real colour of some evidence or any ground to implicate some- important leaders in the Opposition. I can one. But Mr. Thakkar wanted to implicate Mr. understand some leaders of Janata Oal Dhawan. a man with unflinching loyalty to taking this stand; I can understand the stand Mrs. Gandhi, a man with twenty-two years taken by BJP; but 1 cannot understand the experience of working with Smt. Indira stand of the Left parties. They say they are Gandhi. The SIT has investigated it fully and convinced about the unity and integrity; they the Prime Minister has also stated that SIT say that they are standing for the unity and has already cleared Mr. Dhawan. But the integrity of this country. But they are not opposition is now playing some politics. acting for that. If it is true, if they are really They want to use this Report for character interested, they must come forward and assassination. disapprove of some parties' stand and must help the Government in its efforts to protect I have read in some newspaper that the the country's unity and integrity. opposition Members are going to discuss this Report in some meeting somewhere. The stand of the Opposition shows its When this House discusses this important total bankruptsy of policies and program- issue, they do not want to participate here. mes. Their sale objective is to capture They boycotted the discussion. And they power. · In this game, the Opposition is up- want to discuss it in some meeting. What a abashedly resorting to character assassifla- shameful thing it is' I remember once when tion, making baseless allegations, spread- Bofors issue came up and when this issue ing of rumours and doing all kinds of mud- was discussed here, the opposition Mem- slinging. These are the only programmes bers then also went to Swedish Embassy to they have. submit the memorandum and they submit- ted the memorandum. This shows that they With these words, I conclude; even lack the common sense. They have no faith in this Parliament. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI P.F\ As our hone Prime Minister stated yes- DAS MUNSI): Mr. Chairman, Sir, this par. terday, the aim of the forces who worked for ticular debate concerning the Thakkar the assassination of Smt. Indira Gandhi was Commission Report has created quite a bit not merely her elimination. ~ut the aim was of inquisitiveness and enthusiasm among to destabilise this country. Their calculation the people in the country to further know the was that when ndiraji would be killed, the truth. But the most unfortunable part of it is result would be that there would be political that the Opposition is so afraid of facing the uncert~nty and instability In the country truth that they have boycotted the entire which would result in disintegration. That discussion because truth can only be met by Motion Re.lnt8rim & CHAITRA 21. 1911 (SAKA) of ThaIduIr 546 FJtJaI Rsports Commission truIh; not by untruth or half-truth. Possibty, and malign the Government and the then those who encouraged half-truths and un- Prime Minister, Indira Gandhi as a corrupt truths consider that this is the appropriate person and a fountain head d corruption. to moment to hide somewhere else and not to destabilise the democratic system in a face the truth. manner as compelling the elected ML.As to resign. threatening them. forcing them. The assassination of Mrs. Gandhi. the shaving their heads in th_ name of so called former Prime Minister. and the beloved mass movements in those days. in the semi- leader of the nation should not be looked fascist culture in the streets of Patna. Ahme- upon and analysed only on the basis of the dabad and ,'sewhere. If I am not wrong Mr. findings of the Thakkar Commission Report Chairman, 1n the Upper House, in those as if a Prime Minister of India. as if a leader days, Mr. Bupesh Gupta and in this House. of the nation, is no more. But certainly it Prof. Hire" Mukhe~ee and Mr.lndrajitGupta should be traced right from the beginning of the CPI shared our views and responded when she started strengthening the third to the semi-fascist onslaught; democratic world movement. institutions and progressive forces resisted the efforts to undermine the importance of If I may go back a little and trace the the democratic and also those who were history, right after 1971 t this sUb-continent determined to destabilise the country. It started gaining a momentum against the started right from that day. Thereafter what onslaught of the colonial and imperialist happened? In 1975, the first assassination power and all their manoeuvres and designs took place in Dhaka. right inside the house of to destabilise this country, the largest de- Sheikh Mujibur Rehman, as it happened mocracy of the world. You may recall that in inside the house of Mrs. Gandhi nine years 1971 when the Indo-Soviet Treaty was later Mujib was assassinated and he was signed, it created a positive move and gen- replaced by tanks, heavy artillery and mili- erated a new hope not only in India and tary power. Almost around the same time Soviet Union; but among almost all the free- vicious campaign started in India to destabil- dom loving nations who were struggling at ise the democratic system. *. who is now the the moment for their freedom. They were leader of the Janata Oat in the Gujarat As- delighted to see that a third world leadership sembly, was the Chief Minister of Congress and a committed socialist world leadership Party in Gujarat. The movement came from coming together to defend their aspirations the opposite side that he was branded as the and their cause. kingpin of oorruption and the students though their movement created a conditions The impact of the Indo-Soviet Treaty in which he had to resign. The Government subsequently was followed by the Indo-Pak was dissolved that same .. :*.. , is now the agreement known as Shimla Agreement symbol the sanity of the Opposition as the signed by late Indiraji and the late Prime head of the Janata Oal today. I am talking of Minister of Pakistan Shri Bhutto; and the all these in order to trace the background Indo-Bangia agreement signed by the late must be traced that whenever an attempt Indiraji and the late Sheikh Mujibur Rehman. was made in this country to destabilise the It creaded again a new atmosphere of con- country it was made on two counts-A slo- fidence in this sub-(X)ntinent and posed a gan in the streets, corruption to assassinate real threat to the imperialists and the coloni- the character of the leaders, especially alists right from that day. Hyou look back the known leaders of both the world and the moment the Indo-Soviet Treaty signing was country and the second is to undermine the over, the moment the Indo-Bangladesh importance of democratic institutions by Treaty was over, the moment the Shimla semi-fascist methods compelling and gh- Treaty was over, a sinister move was initi- eraoing the MLAs to resign or to use arms ated taking place right from that day, if I am and other tactics to create a reign of terror. not wrong, at the end of 1974. to castigate On a simple issue of Tulmohan Ram licence "Expunged as ordered bv the Chair. 547 Motion Re. Interim & APRIL 11, 1989 of n,Mkar! 548 Final R."arts Commlaion

[She P.R. Das Munsij further championed the cause ~ world peace, efforts were made to manoeuvre the scandal involving a few lakhs of rupees, an cause in a different manner. This -time the uproar was made in this House, not for one manner was direct onslaught on India's unity or two days but for months together. This through the Khalistani campaign. Wher. was in the Fifth Lok Sabha. Sir, I remember from did the Khalistan campaign come? It that incident distindly. The House was not did not originate in India, but it originated allowed to be conducted. We took every step abroad, in Montreal etc. All those champi- to submit the report in the Speaker's Cham- oned the cause of Khalistan movement. ber for the Opposition to examine. Yet, in- stead of finding the truth, they carried on the I went to see the Los Angeles Olympic canard of character assassination pro- games. I give you an example of what hap- gramme in the street and Mr. Lalit Mishra pened. At that time, •• who is with the oppo- was killed out of hatred in Patna. Thereafter, sition now was also there. The Indian team an open invitation was given to the Army to was going to play the hockey match. Two rebel and at that time, the Constitution had to days before, the extremists started issuing come in to impose emergency. People may leaflets abusing India, saying "down with accuse, people may appreciate, people may Indira Gandhi", "finish her" and all sorts of debate on this point from that day till this day. other slogans. The Government concerned But I am explaining the method as to how it there did not intervene. The Indian captain came. And the Congress Government could went to practise in the ground. He was not come back. This is scenario No.1. Sce- stoned, tomatoes and eggs were thrown at nario No.2 is Camp David agreement was him. All kinds of things were thrown on the signed and Morarji's Government publicly players, shouting at them, abusing them etc. welcomed the nasty Camp David agreement No intervention was there from that country. which encouraged the Israelis to continue When we came back, we reported to Shri- their occupation. Mr. Chairman Sir, you may mati Indira Gandhi, the then Prime Minister recall this. Mr. Moshe Dayan came to Delhi how things had happened, and how things in congnito, to understand quietly the whole were gaining ground and how the terrorists operation of destabilisation his visit was were being trained abroad. within the knowledge of the Government, but they did not disclose it to the public. Then, When these things had started taking they went back. However, the Government shape, can you show me on tecord either on collapsed for their own fautts. But the con- the records of Parliament proceedings or in cept of destabilisation was not over. Mr. public speeches that leaders like Prof. Chairman Sir, you may recall this also. At Madhu Dandavate of the Janata Oal, or of that time, Akali leaders were not in the BJP, CPI or CPIM in those days publiclly Government of the Janata Party. The An- condemned such kind of actions and misbe- andpur Sahib Resolution did not come in the haviour with the Olympic players in the fore-front at that time. The concept of think- United States? No debate took place. No- ing on the Sikh rights and other issues was body gave notice to the Speaker that they ncit at aU raised in the House. Not a memo- wanted to discuss this. All kept quiet. Things randum was placed -before the then Prime went on. In this process, arms started corn- Minister or the President of India. ing in, terrorists were trained, armed and equipped. The Blue Star operation had to 16.00 hr•. take place for the sake of integrity and unity of the country. The attempt w~ firstly '0 Again, when Indira Gandhi came in and destabilize India and secondly, to hit,_tbe further strengthened the concept ofthe Third most popular leader of t~ Thi¢ World World movement, further strengthened the movement, so that the Third World move- cause of disarmament, further strengthened ment gets weakened. By this time, Mujib-~­ the cause of nuclear non-proliferation treaty, Rahman ,was no more, Bhutto was hangod ··Expunged as ordered by the Chait. 549 Motion Rs. Interim & CHAfTRA 21. 1911 ($AKA) of Thakkar 550 Final Repotfs Commission

and if Indira Gandhi could have been assas- started with the Bofors Deal. They tried to sinated, their final manoeuvre could reach use or misuse the highest office of the coun- its culminator. try, the President of India. They failed as they undermined the importance of the demo- We must also trace the other factors. cratic institution. Then finally they cam. to While these operations started taking place. this character assassination with regard to . Afghanistan problem also became serious. the Thakkar-Commission Report, its findings Attempts were made to train and equip the and its observations. guerrillas and the Mujahideens in Afghani- stan. Mr. Chairman, Sir, if supposing Mr. Dhawan had issued a statement some 4 16.02 hrs. months back saying that the conspirators are the Congress leaders who are sitting on [SHRI SOMNATH RATH in the Chailj the Treasury Benches that is if they could manage to get him in that way and had him Taking all these things into account, a deputed to their will, then today they would final blueprint was made, and based on that have come to this House demanding that the blueprint, operations started. And that is why Thakkar Commission Report should not be the observation that the involvement of the laid on the Table of the House but aSking the foreign agencies or their links cannot be Govemment to resign and they would have ruled out is genuine and convincing one. II defended Mr. Dhawan. But because Mr. may say so, Indiraji's assassination was the Dhawan did not toe their line-because he beginning of their operative game, not the did not defed and he remained a loyal ser- end of the game. It was just a beginning; vant and maintained his dignity-his being many more things took place after that and taken back in the Prime Minister's Cabinet many more are still going to take place and Secretariat has become a great offence. forthatthe Indian people, democraticinstitu- tions, the Government as a whole and all On the basis of the observations made patriotic forces will have to remain vigilant. by the Opposition Members, the Prime Min- ister clarified all the points yesterday. Mr. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want to draw your Chairman, Sir, I would like to say that the cult . attention to the campaign that started. On of terrorism is not confined to Punjab alone. the one hand, there was an attempt to des- The Punjab Assembly has been dissolved tabilize the country by terrorists and on the on the ground that some Minister in that . other, under the popular banner of ending Govemment was publically giving arms or corruption, a particular newspaper carried a was supporting the terrorists out-side the campaign and invited the army to rebel country, or some connivance was arrived at against the Government. That was before with the terrorists. The same thing is hap- 1977. If you see, it is the same newspaper, pening in the other parts of India. Only be- the same so-called journalists, one or two, cause of the efforts of the Prime Minister. who are even carrying the so-called battle Shri Rajiv Gandhi, we have been able to today. I am shocked to inform you and it is maintain the unity and integrity of the nation. below the dignity of the Members of Partia- We had been able to maintain unity in Dar- ment. whether this side or that side to as- jeeHng because of his timely intervention. It semble together to draw up their strategy in is true. lamgratefultothe Prime Minister. He Parliament and in that meeting to invite a said a great thing befitting to the stature of journalist to address them and give them Mahatma Gandhrs ideals. Pandit Nehru's counsel. Yesterday it so happened thai in ideals and the concept and principles of Smt. Vithalbhai Patel House Mr. Arun Shourie Indira Gandhi. He said that if we had com- was asked to give his advice as to.how to promised and agreed to toe the sentiments play the game further and how to go in the of the majority population of West Bengal, future. Mr. Chairman, Sir, this campaign election result would have been different. 551 Motion Re. Interim & APR1l11,1989 d Thakkar 552 Final Rspofts Commission

[Sh. P.R. Das Munsij That is my observation.

We got 42.5 per cent resuh in our favour. We Mr. Chairman, Sir. I would conclude by oould have got another 4 per cent votes if we saying that many parties here have raised had made Shri Rajiv Gandhi the leader of the hue and cry about the Thakkar Commission Bengalis. But we did not do that. We tried to Report which we have submitted and laid on make him the leader of the nation. As a the Table of the House. leader of the nation he could not ignore the responsibilities and the role played by Gork- I would like to know one thing from the has in the liberation struggle. He said. -I am Opposition. Yesterday several leaders in the not prepared to accuse or abuse them as Congress Party mentioned several reports anti-nationals. They are my brothers. chil- which have not seen the light of the day. Shri dren and my sons.· This way we maintained Gadgil specifically asked why G.V. Rao's the unity but what happened in West Ben- Report was not tabled in the Karnataka gal? The State Government provided arms Assembly. Here I would like to go on record from the State armory to a party to counter that three Inquiry Commissions were ap- that movement. Is it not anti-constitutional? pointed under the Commissions of Inquiry Is it not encouraging the cult of terrorism Act to investigate the corruption and crimes which will ultimately destabilise the oountry? committed by the Congress Regime from 1972-77 in West Bengal by the left Front Mr. Chairman, Sir, I don' want to raise .Government. These were the Ajay Basu any controversy here. I have no intentions to Commission, Haratosh Chakravarthy abuse any Chief Minister of any State-Con- Commission and the Sharma Sarkar gress or non-Congress-or to abuse any Commission. Till this date, none of those leader. I would like to humbly submit that it is reports has seen the light of the day because not individually the responsibility of either S. the persons who headed the Commissions Buta Singh or Shri Sontosh Mohan Devor themselves declared that they could not find Shri Chidambaram to contain the terrorists. any evidence anywhere I Some re!ative of Every State Government will have to keep its the ... took all the fees as Counsel from the eyes open and see where the terrorists are State exchequer. But the Commissions did hiding. If it was a fact that Mr. Simranjit Singh not give their findings till today. Till now, Mann or other terrorists were hiding in the these reports were not placed on the Table State of West Bengal, either before or after of the State Legislature. So, this is the way the Blue Star Operation, was it not the re- the Opposition behaves, taking advantage sponsibility of •• of that State to have de- and opportunity, wherever it suits them. tained them at the appropriate time? H.* was not aware of the fact, I woukJ say that he is ... Today I am fully supporting the appeal " he was aware of the fact but even then did of the Prime Minister to the Left. If the Left not detain them, it creates a political suspi- consider that they are patriotic and genu- cion. It is my political suspicion and my inely anti-imperialistic, anti-terrorists and observation alone. I would say that they are anti-colonialists, if they want to preserve the maintaining the double standards. They are integrity of tho country, let them categorically talking about the national unity in DeJhi but disown Janata Oal with whom the black are addressing the extremists in Canada. sheep which is responsible for leaking the Canada talking about the national unity in report is associated. let them say that they Delhi and encouraging the terrorists in Dar- disown Shri ** an9 Shri *. Let them say that jeeling by giving them arms, talking about they disown those people who introduced the national unity but are not disowning •• in the legislation for anti-defection in the name the name of national Opposition. This is a of morality and having passed it, defected double standard which is adopted by them the party but would not resign from their and it is a kind of connivance with those seals. let them disown such immoral forces who are out to destabilise our country . people. If they do not make their stand clear. "Expunged as ordered bY the Chair. 553 Motion Re. Intsrim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) of Thakkar 554 Final Rsports Commission the political observation would obviously be Dayan into this country, peopIe~­ that they also have some kind of an under- latad and literally squandered the money of standing and a clandestine link with those the Gandhi Peace Foundation. as observed who want to destabilise the country. by the Kudal Commission, people who haw link with Adoan Khashoggi, Hershman, people who did not condemn terrorists when Sir, I appeal to the Home Ministry that they were hiding inside the Golden Temple, apart from the observations and investiga- people who had no guts to welcome the tions of the SIT, many more things are to be army operations whether it be 'Black Thun- investigated. Who went to Mr. Hershman? der' or 'Blue Star', and people who had gone Who met Mr. Adnan Khashoggi the arms to Pakistan and praised Zia:'ul-Haq and agent? I also want to know whether Mr. other people in Pakistan who were out and Adnan Khashoggi, Mr. Hershman and Ms .•• out against India in those days, and the the correspondent in Geneva--.ither one of people who created problems here by giving them or each one of them-invited Mr.-· in training to terrorists must prove their bonafi- Ger,eva for dinner. Is it a fact that in los des. Their bonafides are questioned today. Angeles many of the opposition leaders They must be judged not by the Supreme have met Mr. Adnan Khashoggi and con- Court, not by this Parliament but by the - tacted Mr. Hershman? Is it also a fact that on people of India. They will be judged by the their diktat. they are operating in this coun- people on the supreme democratic platform. try? Therefore. you will find an international If the Opposition are sincere, let them decide link is finally established and we know as to that they ¥@nt to be on the side of India. Let who are behind it. They tried to demoralise them defend the country and not the terrorist the Defence Forces in the past. That was manoeuvres. It they are not with them, let why there was the campaign about Bofors in them expose the terrorists and their friends the beginning. They wanted to accuse and and the conspiring agents today. The Com- abuse the army personnel. When they came munist Party of the Soviet Union is one of the to know that it was too much of a risk, they greatest champion of world peace. Legacy turned to the Prime Minister. When they and heritage of the Soviet Communist Party found that there was nothing against the might be good but the legacy of the Commu- Prime Minister they have now switched over nist Party of Great Britain which took its birth to Thakkar Commission. They are not dis- in the lap of Rajni Palm Datta in London was cussing relevant issues. As a matter of fact, to betray the nation during the national they are not interested in discussing relevant struggle. They may take the opportunity issues. They do not want to discuss as to whenever there is a smell of betrayal in the how the country is improving its economy in hours of the crisis of the country. They may spite of the drought. They are not interested say, "We do not carry the legacy of Lenin or in discussing how much employment is the Soviet Communist Party, we carry the generated by the Jawahar Rozgar Yojana, legacy of Rajni Palm Datta who taught us how things are going to be improved in the how to abuse Netaji Subhas Bose and who Eighth Plan, how women's rights are pro- taught us how to take the revolutionaries into tected and so on. Nor are they inlerest9d in the British camps." So, the Communists will discussing the problems of the poor peas- have to decide which legacy they are follow- ants and weavers. They are interested only ing now. Hthey follow the legacy of the Soviet in establishing some kind of a campaign Union right from Lenin to Gorbachev, then throughout the country, whereby they can go they should dissociate themselves immedi- to the peopl~ without taking up any of the ately from Janata Oal, ** Mr. Hershmen and relevant issues of the nation. They are only Mr. Adnan Khashoggi. If they think that they interested in having a regular link with the are carrying the legacy of Rajni Palm Datta foreign countries and establishing links with and the great betrayers of the national the terrorist agencies. Therefore, Mr. Chair- moveme:1t. Ie', 1h~m say "We can do every- man, those people who brought Moshe thing but C~.lr old ~ooJ only stirs in our hearts "EXpunged as ordered by the Chair 555 Motion Re. Interim & APRIL 11. 1989 of Thakkar 556 Fmal Reports Commission

[Sh. P.R. Oas Munsij politicians and lawyers who defended the culprits and tried to show that the culprits to betray t betray. 'that will be to our advan- were innocent. They tried to divert the att8n- tage. We have nothing to say.- tionofthe people. They tried to show that the bullets that killod Madam Gandhi were the With these words, I congratulate the bullets fired by ${.'me one else. They did not Home Ministry fortheir outstanding perform- leave any stone untumed to protect the real ance and for their courage to face the Partia- culprits, the cUlprits whose hands were ment with truth. I congratulate our Prime smeared with blood and who were caught Minister for what he said yesterday by put- red handed. It did not require any sagacity or ting his point of view and also of the understanding to f,d out as to who was Government's point of view. I appeal responsible actuaU~, for firing and yet there through you, that let the people judge out- were legal. luminaries belonging to some side the Parliament who are with the con- party who were trying to divert the attention spirators or who are out and out to fight of the people from the real criminals to oth- conspiracy. ers.

With these words, I conclude. The judgement was given and it went against the culprits; they were punished. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE later on, a write-up appeared in a newspa- MINISTRY OF CIVil AVIATION AND per and the matter was picked up and taken TOURISM (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATll): on up by the members in this House. An agita- 31st of October, 1984, India lost her Prime tion was started. We know the nature of the Minister, the Congress Party lost its leader agitation; we know how the matter was put in and we lost our mother. When late Prime this House. They wanted that the Report Minister Mrs. Gandhi lived and worked for should be placed on the Table of the House; the all round development of the country, they sat in the well of the House; they did not she was criticised left and right, in season allow the Budget to be discussed in the and out of season, for any flimsy reason or House. The valuable time of this House was for no reason. She cautioned the country wasted and they insisted and insisted that and brought to the notice.of the poople that the Report should be placed on the Table of there were forces inside ·the country and the House. The Government did not place outside the country which were bent upon the Report on the Table of the House in dividing the nation undermining the unity deference to the advice given by the Thakkar and integrity of the nation. She and many Commission itself. The reasons given for not others hinted that there was a danger to her publishing the Report are like this. On page life also. It was at that time the Members of 7, of the report it reads as follows: the Opposition Parties mocked at her state- ment. They used to say that it was a small- "The Commission after due delibera- screen to hide the deficiencies of the regime. tion, has formed the opinion that while But when they mocked at her statement and there is no objection to the Interim when they deflected the attention of the Report being made public, larger pub- people from the real issue, at that time, those lic interest demands that the present who were conspiring against her and against report (final report) may not be made the unity of the nation got the opportunity to public. There are three good and valid prepare themselves and to strike at the reasons why it should not be made heart. We know the result. She was assassi- public:- (1) Firstly, in the wake of the nated in broad day light in our country. report. the Government might desire a problem to be made by the investigat- We know who pulled the trigger; we ing agency in the light of the observa- know who were there to kill her. The case tions made in the report. Such investj- was filed in the court. There were some gation in all likelihood will be ham- 557 Motion Rs. Int.rim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SA/(A) of Thakkar 558 Final Reports Commission

pered or prejudiced by giving pubIicily They said that unless the entire record of the to the report. (2) Secondly, such pub- proceedings of the Commission was placed licity is likely to cause embarrassment on the Table 01 the House they would not or prejudice to the suspect. More so as discuss it. the observations made in the report have been made on the basis d the We. who have been in Parliament know material gathered in the course of the that even the reports of the Parliamentary investigative exercise which precedes Committees are placed on the Table of the an inquiry proper, and not on the basis House without placing with them the record of the inquiry held by the Commission of the proceedings of the Parliamentary as contemplated under section 88 of Committees. Now here is a Commission the Ad or under Rule 5 of the Rules. appointed outside the House. This was a (This course had to be adopted since Report of the Inquiry made by the Commis- further investigation by the investigat- sion. We shall have to distinguish between ing agency may have to be under- the Report of an Inquiry, the report after taken, and since the Commission investigation and the jt;dgment given by a cannot itseH hold an inquiry into the court of law. This is a report of an inquiry. In facts and circumstances of the matter this Report. it was specifically mentioned which will be more in the nature of a that this report cannot be adducod as evi- trial. (3) Thirdly, material gathered and dence nor the proceedings of this Commis- incorporated in the report touches on a sion can be adduced as evidence. But it number of sensitive matters which it should be made the basis for investigating may not be in public interest to pub- into the matter and special investigations licise at least for the present.· should be started; and the special investiga- tions were started later on. It was also Now, these were the reasons because mentioned that in the interest of justice it of which the Report was not placed on the should not be published. Table of the House and these are valid reasons. The Report itself says that it was Now, all these facts have to be borne in necessary to proted the culprit in this inves- mind and yet the Members belonging to the tigation, in the investigation against him, in Opposition Parties insisted and insisted and the court of law. The Report also says that insisted that not only the Report but the there are some sensitive matters relating to proceedings of the Commissions also the foreign countries also and it is not correct should be placed on the Table of the House. to give publicity before the criminal investi- What has been said by the Commission gation is finished and the cases are filed. here? It is very very relavant. On page No. These were the valid reasons and yet they 6, the Report says: wamed that the Report should be placed on the Table of the House. "The exercise thus undertaken may result in the Commission re~ . hing the The Government agreed to place the con(:... ,sion that some person or per- Report on the Table of the house in order to sons or agencies besides those dispel any misunderstanding which might named in the charge-sheet filed in the have arisen because of not tabling this Court were possibly involved in the. Report on the Table of the House, in defer· perpetration of the crime. The ence to the demand made by the Opposition Commission may form the opinion that Mer1)bers and in order to avoid any mischief in the context of the material gathered that could be generated because of not by the Commission there are grounds tabling the Report on the Table of the House. to suspect the involvement of an indi- And what happened later on? later on the vidual or individuals. The only course hon. Members boycotted the discussion it- open to the Commission in such an selfl They left this House and they went out. eventuality would be to advert to the 559 Motion ~. IntBrim & APRIL 11. 1989 d Thakkar 560 Final Repotts Commission

[Sh. Shivraj V. PatiO leader of the party; they wanted to malign the Government; they wanted to malign the relevant material and to articulate the party; they wanted to discredit the Govern- reasons for forming the opinion that men~ the party and .the leader. But when there are grounds for entertaining they found that there was no material in it, suspicion about involvement of some they did not participate in the debate. Now persons other than the culprits named they go outside the Parliament and when in the FIR or the charge-sheet. And to there is nobody to answer the points raised recommend that the matter required to by them, they would be making long be furt.her investigated by the investi- speeches criticising the Government. They gating agqncy in trle light of the per- could have made their speeches here on the spective perceived by the Commis- floor of the House and the points made by sion.- them could have been replied to, could have been met, oould have explained and that They themselves have said in so many could have been done in the interest of words that there is no finality attached to this justice, in the interest of fairplay and in the Report. They have said that the investigation interest of arriving at the real truth. This is not has to be done. After the investigation is done. They go out and make speeches. done, the report of the investigation has to be They make speeches in a place where they filed in a Court of law. Even the report which can make speeches in any manner they like. is received after the investigation has no And if they make speeches here, they have finality. It is only the Court which can give the to make speeches in front of the M.ambers judgement and the decision. There were so who are sitting here, and who are there to many stages which were to be reached after point out what is the truth and what is the this report was filed. And yet the Members untruth. insisted and insisted that the report should be placed on the Table of the House along Sir, the opposition party has been rais- with the proceedings. Why did they do that? ing the issues which are not real. They have This is a question which will be asked in this not discussed the principles, on the basis of House; this is a question which will be asked which the entire edifice of our democracy, of outside the House; this is a question which our economy, of our society, stands. They do will be asked by all thinking people. They not touch the principles; they do not discuss wanted that the report should be placed on the principles; they do not discuss the poli- the Table of the House thinking that there cies; they do not discuss the defence policy would be material in the report, which could as such; they do not discuss the security be used against the leader of the party, environment in the country; but they are ""gainst the Government and against the interested in discussing a defence a con- party. They thought that there would be tract. The larger issues do not appeal to material and they could use it. When they them. What appeals to them is a smaller found that thare was no material, they issue relating to aircraft, not the security packed off and they did not participate in the environment, not the defence policy, not the debate on the report . Is this the way a issue as to how the country should be de- responsible opposition should behave; is fended and protected; what should be done this the way which can really strengthen the and should not be done in its entirety and in democracy and parliamentary system in our its totality. But they are attracted by some country; is this the way to arrive at the truth; small or big contracts. They do not discuss is this the way to do justice to the people; is the policies, new policies which have been this they way the opposition should behave formulated. The Government in the last four towards the ruling party or the ruling party years has formulated many policies-new towards the opposition? That is the question education policy, new irrigation policy, new that will be asked again and again. And the health policy, new housing policy, new ap- answer is that they wanted to malign the . proach to the agricultural development, new 561 Motion RB. Interim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) 01 Thakkar 562 F"maI R6pOI'IS Commission perspective of the development of our indus- dear and the near ones of Mrs. Gandhi. the try in the country, new technological and ones who really belong to Madam Gandhi. scientific approach, new approach to decen- her own people. And they want to insinuate tralisation of power and taking power to the and implicate those people who were dearer people. When the Budget is being dis- to her than her own self. 1do not think thatthe cussed, they rake up an issue which they opposition party should stoop down to this want to discuss. The discussion on the level. I do not think that the opposition party Budget is set aside. It is pushed aside. And is going to gain anything out of this kind of they sit in the well of the House. They do not attitude towards the leader of the Congress discuss the Budget at aU. They want to Party, towards the Government of the Con- discuss something which ultimately they do gress Party and towards the Congress not discuss. What are they doing? In fact. Party. The level of the politics should not be they are discussing incidents, individuals. allowed to be brought this low. We are sorry, contracts, small, minor and petty things. Can our hearts are full of agony. The injury which the democracy of a country like India be- was inflicted on the hearts of many of us come strong when the attention is diverted sitting on this side, that wound is opened on small issues? Can the economy, the again. It is bleeding. And this bleeding cer- society in India develop when the approach tainly cannot help 'the Opposition Parties. is limited, parochial, short-sighted? On the They are misguided. The people in this one hand, here is a leadership, a Govern- country are shrewd enough to understand ment, a party which is doing everything this nefarious game. They would not be possible to develop the country and not misguided by what is being said in few caring for itself or himself. which is trying to newspapers and by few Members of the do its or his best for the development of our Opposition Parties on the floor of the House economy, our society and for strengthening and outside the House. We have full faith in the country by creating better relations them. We have full faith in understanding, we throughout the world for our country and for have full faith in jUdgement, and we know others, and on the other hand, there are the that they know what is black and what is Members talking all the time about individu- white, what is truth and what is untruth, who als, incidents, small things, trying to defied is acting for what reason. They understand the attention from the bigger things to those people who are day in and day out smaller things. Why is this agitation? And the riveting their attention on small things, who answer given is that when we are trying to do not have broader vision, who do not think discuss the issue relating to the national in terms of the nation ClS a whole, who do nol integration and unity in the country, attempts think positively. who are always thinking are being made to deflect the attention of the negatively, who are always trying to find fault people from the broader issue of conspiracy with others and saying to the people: ·We and conspirators to the smaller issues. They are better than them because they have want to concentrate on an individual, an , faults." They are not showing a~ to what is individual who was with Madam Gandhi their positive attitude, what is their philoso- through the thick and thin of her political lif'l, phy, what is their policy, how they want to who suffered with Madam Gandhi for tackle the issues in the country. They say: Madam Gandhi when she was not in power ·They are wrong, so we should be allowed: and remained loyal, did not say a word This can be really understood by the people against her or against her party or against of this country. her relations. They want to implicate him. Why do they want to implicate him? They We are very very sorry that this matter want to implicate him because they want to has been brought. in this fashion and dis- deflect the attention of the people from the cussed by some Members from the Opposi- bigger issues to the smaller issues. They do tion in this tone and in this manner. , shall not not stop here. They proceed a few steps and need not say anything more than this. ahead and they insinu.Ct and implicate the The only thing that 1would like to say is that 563 Motion Re. Inttlflm & APRIL 11. 1989 01 ThMtIuIt 564 Final Reports Commlalon

[Sh. Shivraj V. Patil] whether it is true. But if they are-discussing the same subject outside the House simulta- the hon. Prime Minister has very rightly said neously as also here, it would be very unfor- that the assassination of Mrs. Indira Gandhi tunate and.will be against the spirit of parlia- was not an individual's assassination. She . mentary democracy. If a single sentence is stood for certain principles and policies. She spoken by a Minister outside the House stood for the democracy in the country. She regarding the policy, they would shout that stood for secularism in the country. She this was improper, that when the House is stood for the poor in the country. She stood going on you cannot make any pronounce- for the seH-reliance. She stood for the re- ment outside the House. When we are here. spect ofthe humanity. Those principles were as the Minister has said just now, to reply to not acceptable to some people and they those points, they chose deliberately a fo- thought that by killing her they would be rum where these points cannot be replied by finishing the principles she stood for. But anybody. they were wrong there and we, who have inherited her blessings, would give our life to Then. Sir, this report had been also fully stand by those principles. We will not budge commented upon inside and outside the an inch. She had declared that she would House by several journalists and some of give her blood for the country and that every them have also very candidly said that there drop of her blood would strengthen this is a failure in distinguishing between weighty country. We WOUld like to say the same thing and flimsy evidence in this report and the standing on the floor of this House that we report is filled in several parts with specula- should stand for the principles and we would tive materials. It is also remarked by one of ·not budge an inch, and if need be, we will the columnist that it remains a puzzle how a give everything that belongs to us. Every Supreme Court judge could arrive at so drop of our blood will be available for the damning a conclusion on so slight and un- protection of this country. certain evidence. For the most part it does not appear to be a circumstantial evidence SHRI SHARAD DIGHE (Bombay North but rather a combination of inference and Central): Mr. Chairman, Sir, since yesterday conjuncture. Now, this report was placed we have · been discussing this Thakkar before this tiouse. An interim report was Commission's Report. Many senior Mem- submitted on 19th November 1985. The final bers 'from the ruling party have already report was submitted on 27th February spoken. Yesterday we had also a very 1986. There was, I should say, preliminary eloquent. comprehensive speech of the leakage in 1986 itself. But at that time the Prime Minister, touched with emotions also. Opposition did not find it useful to take ad- Many more Ministers have intervened today vantage of it or to raise the points here. But and the debate is about to end. The very today they saw that there would be some unfortunate thing is that tho Opposition advantage in raising this issue and therefore Parties, who had been insisting on this they made a lot of noise in this House for Thakkar Commission's Report being placed getting this report before the House and on the Table .of the House and being dis- ultimately they left the field when it was really cussed, have ultimately chosen to boycott being discussed. They did not see the rea·· this debate. I can understand their dilemma son when it was pointed out that this is the because they could neither support the full refport and the provisions which were Report nor criticise it. They were thoroughly made under the Commission of Inquiry Act, disappointed when they found the contents particularly under Clause (5) of Section (3) of the Report. They wete expecting much that for the purpose of this Clause the report more things, from the Report, whiCh they ....indude an interim report and also pro- mulct use not only today but till the day of ceedings 01 the Commission. So, that was poll. But having been fully disappointed. they for the purpose of Clause 5 only. When this chose to boycott this debate. I do not know was axpIailed in detail by our Minister, Mr. 565 Motion Re. ,,,,.,.,, & CHAITRA 21, 1'911 (SAKA) of Thakkar 586 FiMI Reports Commission

Chidambaram, also they refused to agree to against that gentleman. And if we go car~­ it. They' said "mango is a mango". Prof. fully through all these observations and the Madhu Dandavate said "mango is a mango· arguments, these arguments are not cogent and it can't mean anything el... But the at all. They are not based on any evidence on person who is trained with legal mind, who record and all are inferences and conjec~ has occasions always to interpret the differ- tures and from that, the whole thing is drawn ent sections and different Acts, win immedi- as if very substantial conclusions have been ately agree that phrases are differently de- drawn from the evidence. The Commission fined in the provisions of the Ad. Hthey are itself has admitted that the Report is based defined under the specific clauses defini- on the pre-inquiry investigative exercise and tions, then the same meaning is taken for all not an inquiry under Section 8B of the the sections and clauses. But when there are Commissions of Enquiry Act which is neither many occasions, when meanings are re- feasible nor practicable. stridecJ to certain clauses only, if you go to Article 2 of the Constitution, there, you will Then, Sir, let us take 4-5 points which find that even the meaning is restricted to a the Commission has alleged against Mr. particular proviso and not to the'clauses. Dhawan. 'Firstly, the change of time with respect to the interview which was fixed with So, there are many such instances, Irish TV of the late Prime Minister. With there is nothing to be surprised about all respect to that, pages 45, 46. 49 and 54 in these things, but when one pretends not to this Report. The Commission says at page understand at all, then it cannot be helped. 45: When there was also the opjnion of the Attorney General and the Rulling of the "The conclusion is, therefore, inescap- Speaker was also based upon it, even then able that a change had not been ef- they refused to agree to it and at the last fected in an open manner, in a normal minute also they said, IThis is a truncated or ordinary course, it was effected in a Report.' Not only that, one of the Members surreptitious and mysterious manner." went to the extent of saying that this is a tampered report. So, you can imagine to Then at page 46. it says: what extent they can go to take political mileage out of et/ery issue that is COr ning and "It is, therefore, reasonable to infer that therefore, I should say their business ;n the 'a change in timing has a sinister signifi~ House is decided by a journalist. Our busi- cance and it was manipulated by so_lJle ness in the House is decided by the Busi- one in order to facilitate the crime.· ness Advisory Committee, but the Opposition's business in the House is al- Sir, it does not stand to reason at all. The ways decided and laid down by a journalist discussion also is not complete on this point who is outside the House. So, this is the and certain conclusions and inferences are position as far as the Opposition Members drawn. As I said, it does not stand to reason . are concerned. at all because even if the interview was either at 8.30 or Nine O'Clock or 9.10. the Now, as I was saying that this Report assassins had already taken positions at unfortunately made certain observations Seven O'Clock or 7.30 and therefore, and certain allegations which are not,.really whether the late Prime Minister would pass speaking, based on a very conclusive evi- through that gato either at 8.30 or Nine dence. Not only that. it relies upon some O'Clock or 9.10 would not have mattered at trifling things, draws inferences from many all. It would not have changed the mind of the many trivival and trifling things. The most assassins orthey would not have missed the important part in the Report are certain aile· target that was in their mind. Therefore, from gations against Mr. Dhawan and many, this point" of view, this conclusion has no ~nts have been raised in this Report substance at all. Another aI~ation Is that 567 Motion Re. InlfHlm & APRil 11. 1989 d Thakkar 568 FInal Reports Commission

(Sh. Sharad Oighe] fallen back at all. He was just with the late Prime Minister herself and. therefore, there instructions given regarding the deptoyment was no cause for s~spician on this account of Sikhs guards were countered mainly by at air. He made enquiry about the fate of Mr. Ohawan. If you tum to pages 23 and 26 assassins. What is wrong about it? Such a of the Interim Report. the observations made very important incident of national impor- therein are very material. As I was referring tance has happened and everybody was to this I must first add the explanation of Mr. enquiring about it-what happened to as- Kao in his written explanation when he was sassins, whether they were arrested. not asked as to why he merely relied upon the arrested, what happened ultimately or oral instructions of Mr. Dhawan regarding somebody else had killed and destroyed the the deployment of Sikhs, even though a very whole evidence. All these things were impor- considered decision was taken by the high tant from this point of view. Therefore, from level committee against it. He was asked, small flimsy thing, we cannot raise doubts why did he not contact the Prime Minister and point out a needle of suspicion against herseH and ask her. A very important expla- this gentleman. nation has been given by Mr. Kao at page 23 of the Interim Report: About Mark Tully's article about "close member of Prime Minister staff" at page 81, -The decision to revoke the order to of the final report. the Commission says: remove Sikh security personnel from the close proximity of the Prime Minis- "He (Tully) however refused to divulge ter was a political decision. His experi- the source of information and was not ence had shown that once the PM had prepared to reveal the name of the made up her mind and taken a deci- "close member of the PM staff". sion on a matter which had political overtones, there was no scope for 17.00 hr•• persuading her to change her mind on considerations of her personal secu- His allegation was "close member of the rity," Prime Minister'S staff", however, vouched for his integrity. "His integrity" means So. it was quite probable and quite convinc- assassin's integrity. After sa.ying so, the ing that Shrimati Indira Gandhi must have Commission immediately said: given instructions like this because she did not care for her fife at all. Kao himseH had "It is generally known that the expres- stated at page 26. He said that he had sion 'close member of the PM Staff' touched on the subject of security. on a prior was being widely used when it was occasion and the late Prime Minister had desired to refer to Shri Dhawan." given a very courteous reply: "Kao Saheb... this is my life. I have chosen it, and Only because the wording "close member of I must accept the risks." Thuefore, from this the PM's staff" is used, the Commission has point of view, I feel that it is quite probable straightway come to the conclusion that that that oral instructions were given and they will mean this only and nothing else, and it were sought to be implemented by Mr. says: Dhawan as far as this is concerned .. There is nothing improbable about it and one cannot "It is generally known that the expres- raise suspicion because of this. sion 'close member of the PM staff was being widely used when it was desired Then there was another rflmark that he to refer to Shri Dhawan". fell back just before the shots. That was not supported by anybody. Even the evidence before the Court also shoWs that he had not I submit that this inference is absolutely 569 Motion Rtl. Intllrim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (&AKA) of Thtlldcar 570 Rnal RtIpOrts Commission

drawn by a very very weak assumption and with great confidence such inquiry we en- we cannot rely upon it at all. trusted to a sitting Judge of the Supreme Court. Why do we do so? We are confident Some diary entires are there. What that his mind is trained and he can assess would be the motive for a gentleman who and he can come to proper conclusions and was with the Prime Minister for a major he. bases everything on evidence and number of years of his life and was loyal to absolutely unbiased judgement is given by a her even in her bad days? What motive can Supreme Court Judge. But. somehow or the it be? What would he achieve by helping the other, I must say we are not getting the assassination of his own boss? He had all benefit of those qualities as far as this Report the powers. Everything was with him. He is concerned. From this point of view, I am was not stripped of the power at all. What glad that thereafter SIT has exonerated Mr. was the necessity? Who would oommit all Dhawan from aU these allegations. The this heinous crime? It is no probability at all Govemment has thought it fit to restore him from a person of H, standing. in his own position. The Government has also, aaing on the report of the SIT, charge- Not only that. Then the motive shown is, sheeted those who were concerned in the he was reprimanded some time in Septem- broader and larger conspiracy, as far as this ber, 1984. He was reprimanded by the Prime assassination is concerned. So. the Govern- Minister in September, 1984 for the alleged ment has taken proper steps. The Commis- acts of Andhra Pradesh politics. Now, I do sion itseH was expecting that after this pre- not know exactly but, several other people inquiry investigation, something would be are also alleged to be involved in this advice. done by the Government; further investiga- tions would be made and then only steps PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): We do would be taken. This has been done by the that too. Government. I am happy about it. Therefore, again I would like to say that it would have SHRI SHARAD DIGHE: So, there is no been better if the OpfllOsition had partici- possibility that it was because of this and pated in this discussion and put forth their when he was there for several years with the own arguments here so that thley could have Prime Minister, I think, there must have been been replied to here and the whole Parlia- several occasions when she must have ment would have been satisfied' that this reprimanded him. When he was so close in report is merely based on inferences and advising and helping the Prime Minister of conjectures. That would have satisfied even this country, is it possible that because he our Members of the Opposition. I hope so. was reprimanded only once in September, But they knew that an embarrassing position 1984 that he got so much attitude of venge- would come after this discussion and they nance that he must assassin his boss to would have nothing to say on this report. whom he was loyal all these years? All these Therefore, they have chosen this course of things are absolutely based on weak evi- action of boycotting the participation on this dence and inferences cannot be drawn by discussion of the report. even a reasonable man from all these things. Therefore, what I submit is that this report, as With these words. I conclude. far as this aspect is concerned, is merely speCUlative, is only a conjecture and f do not SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA (Ahme- know whether anything can be alleged but, dabad): Sir, on 31st October, 1984. a mon- as far as being a very high authority, a strous tragedy, next only to the assassina- Supreme Court Judge for several years, we tion of Mahatma Gandhi. overtook the may merely say that he has not used his people of India in the shape of assassination ulUal sense of judgment in assessing tt¥t of the late Prime Minister, Smt. Indira evidence, in coming to the conclusions. Gandhi. In her last public speech deUwred which was expected of a judge of this type only the previous day of assasainlllion. Sml 571 Motion Re. Interim & APRil 11. 1989 of Thakkar 572 Final Repolfs Commission

[Sh. Haroobhai Mehta] may kindly be seen. This has already been

Indira Gandhi had said: "Every drop of my stated by a number of Members and I shalf blood. I am sure, will contribute to the growth not take the time of the House. It has been of this Nation and make it strong-. On the stated that certain sensitive matters are next day, she gave her supreme St\Crifice for there which may prejudice prosecution or the cause of national unity to which -she was investigations pending and it may also preju- committed more than any thing else and dice the case against the suspeas. There- more than anyone else. fore, the Commission thought it wise to advise the Government, not to publish the The nation was in no position to absorb Report. Unfortunately. the opposition cre- the shock. In the midst of that. the people of ated such a situation which compelled the India could perceive that this could not be an hands of the Government into placing the isolated ad of some one person or even Report before this House. I am not sure borne out of some lunatic mind or insanity whether the placing of the Report is still in the but there must be something deeper behind national interest or not. But. well. now when this. It is because of the fact that India was the report is before us, it should be properly already under a lot of international pressure discussed. Unfortunately. they have quit the at that time. Perceiving this. the Government House when the. House is able to discuss the of India appointed an Inquiry Commission Report which they wanted to be placed in the consisting of Mr. Justice M. P. Thakkar to go House and should be made public. This is Into all these things. The Commission car- how they have escaped. ried out the task by February 27. 1986. We are the people who clamour for the Sir. I have carefully gone through the publication of the Thakkar Commission's Report of the Commission. Notwithstanding Report? Were they those people who had the difference of approach that a Member love and affection for the late Prime Minis- can adopt at~ after the perusal of the report, ter? No. The teeming millions of India who I am of the view that the Commission has loved and venerated Smt. Indira Gandhi did done a stupendous task in giving its findings. not raise the hue and cry that it should be It may be possible that the formulation of the published. Did those whether those who Commission on 'A' aspect or '8' aspect may wanted publication of the Report immedi- or may not come in for acceptance. But by ately are those who were asking for the and large. in general. the findings of the faithful implementation of the Thakkar's Commission are very valuable. It is good that Report? No. They are not interested in the the Government has pursued the Report. They are interested in making politi- Commission's findings. We have before us cal use of the Report. Among those who the Commission's report in two parts. Part-I pressed for the publication of the Report ia the Interim Report and Part-II is the Final were the people whose colleagues have Report. coincidentally as Shri Sharad Oighe defended the assassins or conspirators in has pointed out just now. the leakage is also the court. And that also. not on the ground of in two parts. There was an interim leakage of profession. As a lawyer I understand that the report earlier in 1986 and the final leak- even people accused with the most heinous age took place only a few days ago. before crime could be defended by lawyers on the chargesheet was to be initiated. Before professional grounds. But from the state- we discuss the report and the action taken ment of wise laweyer was obvious that this thereon, it witl be pertinent to deal with the was not the professional brief. He wanted to hue and cry raised by the Opposition on this reck vengance against Madam Indira point Initially the Govemment resisted the Gandhi and his supporters by defending dildolur.oI the report on the grounds, inter those assassins. His colleagues are now aIia·stIIed by the Commission itsel in para claiming that the Report should be made 1.9 of Chapter I at ~ 7 of the report. This public. They are those people whose one 573 Motion Re. int9rim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) . of ThaIdcar 574 FInIII Reports Com"",." colleague. who was the ex-Chief Minister of ter can be convicted and hanged being on a Southern State,ls on record to have stated found to be guilty only after a long lapse of that it was a heinous crime to hang Kehar four and a half years after the murder. It can Singh and it was nothing short of a political only happen in India. That is not different murder. They are the same people one of from our story in the Bhopal gas victims whose oolleagues, an ex-Law Minister, not case. Where the Government of India had in the immediate past Ministry but between felt constrained to enter into a settlement 1977-SO, had said that he was disappointed because the judicial system of this country, by the conclusions of the court. Another the legal system of this country, would fail to colleague of theirs is on record to have deliver justice to the victims even for a dec- stated that the blame for Kehar's death must ade. Therefore, at least the whole episode be shared by all who did not speak out must inform us about the need to tone up our against these executions. legal and judicial system.

Sir, Madam Indira Gandhi's assassina- The Commission has meticulously tion is not made the subject-matter of an examined the circumstances leading to the attack by them. The execution of those assassination and found that the unfortu- found-after the judicial inquiry- to be guiJty of nate occurrence could have been averted if assassination of Prime Minister Smt. Indira high officials who were aware of the threat to. Gandhi, is mourned by them. Their death is the life of the Prime Minister and about the mourned by them by attending the Shog possible and potential source from within the ceremony. Unfortunately,l do not know how security set up itself had thought of ways and the opposition could not distinguish them- means of improving the security set up, of selves from those people who are otherwise meeting the dangers by scrutinising and also supporters of such elements. I know reviewing the system and devising ways and some people among the opposition who are means to block the loopholes. very conscious about the dangers against the national unity of India or about the efforts I respectfully disagree with my good of destabilisation in India and about the friend Mr. Sharad Dighe, that Mr. Rao was manoeuvres and global designs of western right in not approaching the Prime Minister imperialists. Unfortunately, in the personal on the question of posting of certain people matter they could not separate themselves as security guards. He was the security from the designs of the rest of the opposition. chief. It was his responsibility to take the risk Among the opposition, there are also some of getting the admonition or be snubbed by people whose rank and file had distributed the Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and to tell sweet-meats in the streets on learning of the that she had got to see that her security was news of Indira's assassination. And now not a personal security alone, it was a na- they say that the Report should be made tional security. Therefore, it was his obliga- public. tion to go and get the decision reversed.

I am sorry that none of them is here. However t this points out to one major Otherwise, someone might have, hastened thing. It was only Prime Minister Indira to wear the fitting cap. Therefore, their bona Gandhi who could say, whatever may be the fides for asking for publication of the Report risk to my life, t shall not order the change of are to say the least, non-existent. guards duty on the ground that they beJong to a particular community. That is the way However, one thing of course, has to be she upheld national integritY 'and unity and said. The history of prosecution and execu- that is why she also rendered the supreme tion exposes the weakness of our judicial sacrifice. and legal system in our country. It can only happen in India where the persons who .... As regard. Mr Ohawan's role. an un- accused of assassinating their Prime Minis- seemly controversy appears to have been 575 MotIon Re. Interim & APRIL 11, 1989 of ThIIIduIt 576 FInal Repotts Commltslon

[Sh. Haroobhai Mehta] U If, at any stage of the inquiry, the Commission.- raised. It is not necessary nor useful to castigate the Commission in order to take (a) considers it necessary to inquire into different view regarding one individual. The the conduct of any person; or Commission itseH has not finally given any conclusion on that. Incidentally is the same (b) is of opinion that the reputation of Commission which may be relied upon by any person is likely to be prejudicially af- our friends in the matter of Fairfax Inquiry. fected by the inquiry, Let us see the Report itseH. What does it say? The Report has made it very clear at The Commission shall give to that person a page 126 about the maUer of Shri Dhawan's reasonable opportunity of being heard in the involvement. It says: inquiry and to produce evidence in his de- fence;" .. There is no escape from the conclu- sion that there are weighty reasons to Therefore, the Commission did not ar- suspect the complicity or involvement rive at any stage that a reasonable opportu- of Shri Dhawan in the crime." nity was considered necessary. Provision 8B was not considered necessary. The It means that there are weighty reasons. observation of the Commission is ex-parte in That also implies these reasons can also be a sense. Therefore, there was no firm con- outweighed by proper consideration of ma- clusion on that. The Commission itself says terial and evidence which can be gathered in about the nature of its recommendation viz the light of or in pursuance of the investiga- as follows II that the Central Government tion that may be made. should seriously consider the question of appropriate agencies to investigate the Further the Commission Report made it matter as regards the involvement of Shri very clear that this is not an inquiry under R.K. Dhawan, the then Special Assistant to Section 8B. Section 8 B may kindly be seen. the late Prime Minister in the perspective presented in the report." Therefore Sir, what MR. CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. has been recommended by the Commission is not an action against Shri Dhawan, but an SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: This is not investigation into the matter. a matter on which I shall be able to wind up within two or three minutes. I need more SHRI CHAIRMAN: Mr. Patil has already time. If it is necessary to give Members more mentioned. time, it may be advisable to ask Ministers not to intervene frequently. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: Therefore an invQstigation was necessary, investiga- MR. CHAIRMAN: They have already tion took place. As a result of the Special intervened. Investigation Team's recommendation, the Government came to certain conclusions. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: Their fre- Now, Sir, as a politician, I have full trust in the quent interventions take away the time of the Govemment's findings of the investigation. ordinary Members. But as a lawyer, I would appeal that at an appropriate time, Government may en- MR. CHAIRMAN: let us adjust. We lighten this House about how the Investiga- shaH cut short speeches. tion Team came to the conclusion that X, Y,Z was total,y irrelevant and he deserved to be exonerated. The reasoning, the evidences SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA: Sedion , and the materials on the basis of which the 88 says: Government came to the conclusion should 577 MOtion Rs. Int.rim & CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) of Thakkar 578 Final Reports Commission

be stated to the House at the appropriate 'The Honourable Company'. I do not want to time. I do not want to embarrass the Govern- dwell upon it. But Sir, Petris Lumumba's ment by asking them at this moment be- case and the efforts to kill Cuba's President cause the case is already filed, charge-sheet have been officially shown. The President of is already filed, and the Matter is sub-judic9. the United States was shown to be officially But the people of India would like to know the concerned with the efforts to murder Petris reasoning and the evidences on the basis of Lumumba and it is discussed in this book. which Shri Chawan or any other officer concerned has been exonerated. As I'said, Sir, the House is aware that the Prime the Commission never indicated Shri Oha- Minister Indira Gandhi and five other Heads wan, but only wanted that the matter should of State hand jointly made a Five Continental be inquired into and the Government appeal to expose the war mongering efforts enquired into it. of western imperialists and there was disar- mament. Sir, it cannot be 'just an accident Another important aspect is this. The that two of the signatories-Prime Minister Commission in its report at Page 137 stated Indira Gandhi and Swedish Prime Minister that, "the Commission has indicated the Mr. Olof Palrne-were assassinated in. possibility that a foreign hand had played some role in the assassination. May it be that 17.24 hr•• the foreign agency has been inspired; by the scenario then existing to egg on the terrorists [MR. OEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chail1 to any cut-out agency or otherwise. The Commission has also stated that a foreign quick succession. How could it be? It could agency had indeed played a role of helping not be just accidental. Sir, India's independ- those who were engaged in destabilishing ent foreign policy and peace making efforts, India by inspiring, encouraging, assisting India's role in world peace and non- and training terrorists". alignment did irk certain vested imperialistic countries. Therefore, Sir, the Gov~rnment Now, Sir, I want the Government to owes it to the nation to make a thorough inform the House as to what investigation enquiry about the possible role of the CIA in has been undertaken by the Government this assassination. and what is the finding of the Government on the question of whether any international The CIA and such other agencies make agency was involved in this. Sir, the charge- use of religion and section susceptibilities in sheet filed ultimately runs within the narrow order to provoke ill /will, assassination and compass. That means destabilisation by violence. Therefore, this whole connection encouragement and incitement to terrorism should be unearthed by the Government. by certain people who demand Khalisthan. But, Sir, the conspiracy is deeper, wider and Lastly I would like to point out that after the accusing finger is undoubtedly pointed Madam Indira Gandhi's assassination there towards the CIA. Will the Government en- was another assassination attempted and it lighten the House on the question whether is still being attempted. That is the attempt to the possible role of CIA in the assassination destroy the pro-poor economic policies of of Smt. Indira Gandhi has been examined? Madam Indira Gandhi. I would alert the Sir, it is not just an imagination without any Government to ensure that the clearly pro- material. The CIA's role against developing poor policies of Indira Gandhi are not de- countries is well-known. Take Petris parted from or diluted. We hope and we look Lumumba's case and Bhandarnaike's case forward to Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi that and even the attempt to kill .Cuba's Presi- he will represent the resurrection of Madam dent. There is a very good?j· . ...asion on all Indira Gandhi not only in the physical shape the efforts of CIA in a,b08k ...' known but also in the shape of political and eco- International journalist, Brian . .' .ty'fantle- nomic spirit of the Indian masses. 579 Motion FIe. Interim & APRIL11,1989 .(;,f TfIakIw 580 FlnaiRepotts Gc?mmisslon

[She Haroobhal Mehta) tieul. that tight or effective security arrange- mentsstQJldhave been made rightfrom the With these words I thank the Govern- very begi~ing. It is the duty of the .police ment for taking prompt measures on the officers who ara entrusted with the charge of implementation of the Report and congratu- the Prime Minister security, to decide as to late the Prime Ministerfor giving an inspiring how to proted the Prime Minister. No one speech yesterday so that the entire propa- should be allowed to interfere in their work. ganda of the Opposition is nailed down fi- H any officer is allowed to do so, it will nally. definitely create hurdles in the security ar- rangements. Therefore, serious attention [ Trans/ation] should be paid to the security system in future so that the loopholes are plugged and SHRI GIRDHARI LAl VYAS (Shit- no scope is left for the creation of any ob- wara): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Thakkar stacles in the security system. It should be Commission Report has been laid on the ensured that such untoward incidents do not Table of the House. In this connection, sev- recur as may destabilise the country and eral hon. Members have expressed thair cr-eate confusion and disorder. It has been point of views. The leaders of the Opposition specially meantioned in the note of the Minis· had raised a lot of hue any cry for the try of Home Affairs in regard to the Final presentation of this Report but when it has Report that the points raised by the Thakkar been tabled and a discussion on it is being Commission should be investigated irre- held in the House none of them i'S present in spective of whether it concerns Shri R.K. the House. It clearly shows Dhawan or the security officers and the (Interruptions) .. .that they have malafide in- extent to which they had fulfilled the obliga· tentions. That is why they tried to dig up this tions of their responsibilities. The report also issue earlier. draws attention to the doctors who attended on the late Prime Minister and the ambu- In regard to the assassination of Shri- lance system or the arrangements existing mati Indira Gandhi, the Thakkar Commis- in the All India Institute of Medical Sciences. sion has expressed certain apprehensions Justice Thakkar has also drawn attention to and pointed out certain deficiencies in the the kind of security set up w.hich should be security arrangements of the Prime Minister provided for a person of such status. The on the basis of which the Ministry of Home action taken by the hon. Minister of Home Affairs has taken steps to improve the secu- Affairs on the Report is definitely laudable rity set up which is definitely praiseworthy. I and the recommendations of the Commis- think that if such arrangements were made sion should be properly implemented. If before the occurrence of that unfortunate proper arrangements are not made for the incident, the assassins would not have got a security of the President, the Prime Minister chance to assassinate the late Prime Minis- and other V.I.Ps, it may prove devastating ter. The Thakkar Commission and the Spe- for the country. The assassination of Shri- cial Investigation Team have particularly mati Indira Gandhi was similarty ",inous but emphasised that if the Government had paid for the leadership provided by Shrl Rajiv due attention to certain points, the assassi- Gandhi. If Shri Rajiv Gandhi was not there, it nation attempt could have been foiled. If the would have been very difficultto findanother kind of security arrangements which have leadership of equal stature. It is true that no been made by the Home Ministry after the one is indispensable and there is always assassination,were made earlier, the unfor- someone or the other to replace the person tunate occurrence could have been averted who has been holding the reins of power. It and the country could have gained is so provided by the God himseH but such an enormously. eminent personality who had held the reins of the country for 1 · .~ years and under whose Therefore, I would like to submit in par- leadership t08 country '111ade .considerable 581 Motion Re.lnterlm'& CHAITRA 21, 1911 (SAKA) of Thakkar 582 Final RtIPOfIS 'Commlssion progress and who made all out efforts for the SHRI RAM SINGH YADAV: This is a unity, integrity and communal harmony of very important subject. the country is definitely very difficult to r. place. lHE MINISn;R OF HOME AFFAIRS (S. BUTA SINGH): Let him start first. After her death there was chaos in Delhi and other parts of the country. This shows SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Mr. Deputy the effect her leadership had or the people, Speaker. Sir, the Opposition seems to find how crippled the nation feft after her death. evil in everything. Cynicism is prevailing in Necessary steps should be taken to imple- the camp of Opposition. We know, Sir, they ment the recommendations of the Commis- have no love or respect forthe taw of the 'and sion. The report of the Thakkar Commi~sion and rules of this House. In democracy, the and the findings of the C.I.D. point at a rute of majority prevails and the majority will conspiracy either with the country or without. certainly ask the minority to cooperate, to This matter should be taken up for further discuss and also to debate inthe Parliament. investigation. Action is . being taken in the But certainly not the Opposition will dictate case of five people against whom charges terms to the ruling party. have been filed. Whoever is behind this conspiracy, be it the B.B.C. the C.I.A. , the Sir, in this House the Opposition is I.S.I. of Pakistan on a Khalistan sympa- demanding many matters, say, for example, thiser, should be found out. Strid action on Bofors they demanded that there should should be taken against then to prevent any be a House Committee and in fad the Gov- adverse effects on our democratic structure. ernment agreed to it and the House Comm it· Just now the hon. Minister of State in the tee was appointed. Then they wanted that Ministry of Home Affairs said in his speech the rules of the House should not prevail; the that one of the accured was acquitted by the Speaker's decision as envisaged in the rules Supreme Court. An accused sentenced to should not be respected and what they want death by the Sessions Court and the High and what they dictate should prevail. They Court was acquitted by the Supreme Court. boycotted the Committee. One of the mem- Does the speCial Investigation Team hold bers of the Opposition made some state- him guilty of being a co-conspirator.? If so, ment outside the House imputing motives in then action should be taken against him. I regard to this Bofors Committed. But when In wanted to say much more but due to lack of the House members on the Treasury time I end my speech with these words. benches demanded that he should authen- ticate what he said outside, he failed to [English] authenticate that. He never authenticated it. So, the curtain fell on all that is spoken on the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes, Mr. Bofors Committee, all that is spoken against Somnath Rath. the Government, against the Prime Minister and others. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: (Aska): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir...... Sir, we all know that the Commission's report is nol a judicial finding. It is only a fact SHRI RAM SIGH YADAV (Alwar): Sir, finding report. All those advocates sitting on the time for this debate may be extended. the other side, and in particular one of them We request the Hon. Minister to extend the who defended the accused in the murder time for this debate. case of Shrimati ~ira Gandhi pretty well know that the statements recorded by the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE investigating officer under 161 and 162 GPC MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI of the cr. P.C~ are no evidence. The case SONTOSH MOHAN OEV): No, tomorrow diary is treated as saaosanct even from the we wUJ diacu.. the Demands. time of the British. The statements recorded 583 MJfIDn Re. ""."",. . APRL 11,1989 dThakkM 584 FInal Repo'" Commission

[Sh. Somnath Rath] Commission. When Mr. Dhawan wu found free from all charges or all observations under 161 and 162 are for the purpose of made in the Thakkar Commission, he was contradicting the witness in the witness box rightly re-posted.1f the Government w. shy if the speaks otherwise for th, purpose of of not acting upon the Thakkar cOntradicting the witness by the prosecution. Commission's Report, the Government as When the statement recorded by the inves- well could not have appointed once again. tigating officer is not evidence, how could all The fact is that the Government was sure that was stated during the inquiry by the about the innocence of Shri Ohawan and Commission considered evidence and how thetatore the was re-appointed. As per. the could one come to a conclusion on the basis investigations, the Government is sure otsuch enquiry? So, Sir, Mr. Thakkar, in my about the persons who are guilty and the oPinion, has given some remarks. I do not chargesheets are being filed. Now the Op- consider them conclusions or findings be- position is demanding that all the records be cause findings are to be necessarily in a placed on the Table of the House, so that it court only. Very rightly, when some remarks is not tampered and whatever is found in the were made against Shri Ohawan, he was Report is not contradicted. So, that is the ousted from his job. But on the basis of the motive. Or else when in 1986, this leakage report of the Thakkar Commission, investi- was there why thet kept quiet? Why not they gations were carried out by a Speciallnves- waged a war against Mr. Ohawan then? it is tigating Team forthere long years. This team because they knew that Mr. Ohawan is inno- went through all the aspects mentioned by cent. They tried their best to take him into the Commission and it came to the conclu- their side for political gains which Mr. Oha- sion that Mr. Ohawan was free from guilt and wan must have refused. Now they want that the observations made in thereport by the this issue be raised now in order to create a Commission are not proved to be correct. On camouflage in the country for the purpose of the other hand. the SIT found out that there coming elections. That is only their motive. were three terrorists-one of them of course What are the anticedents of these people? died-who happened to be the conspirators and charge sheets have been submitted in Shri Biju Patnaik went to Pakistan. He the court. The so called eminent advocate in said, Mr. Zia is not going to invade India or for the opposition can as wen defend those that matter he is not going to do any harm to accused also as before when he defended India and Mr. George Fernandes who was the accused in the murder case of Shrimati with him said Pakistan'S nuclear develop- Indira Gandhi. There is an ample opportunity ment is not weapon-oriented. These are the for him to do so. Even when the murder case people who are now advocatirl9 the cause of of Shrimati Indira Gandhi was undergoing Madam Indira Gandhi. They are shedding trial, what prevented the advocates who crocodile tears. They are the persons who were appearing for the accused to adduce day in and day out not only criticised Mrs. defence and prove that the conspirators Indira Gandhi but wanted to destabilise the were not those who were accused and the country by any measure. They are the per- accused were not those who shot dead Smt. sons who somehow or other want to come to Indira Gandhi. They had not adduced any power. While attempting to come to power, evidence in the court though they had ample they had made no stone unturned to malign opportunity to do so. They could have Mrs Indira Gandhi. They want to take undue proved that the accused were someone advantage of Mrs. Gandhi's assassination. else. They had not done it. Having not done that, they have failed in their attempt to I conclude by saying that a day before sidetrack the main issue. Now they want to her assassination she was at Bhubaneswar. take advantage Md mike .arne political What did she say? She said: '" may be killed gain by picking up CIItIIn portions here and but every drop of my blood will strengthen there from the repGIt of the Thakkar the growth of the nation and strengthen unity 585 MotIon RtI.lnJfKim & CHAITRA 21,1911' (SAKA) of .Thakkar 588 FlnalR~ , Commission and Int~ritY of India.- "",at is what she said. and its people. Any deviations from the path The very next day, she was assassinated. shown by her would jeopardize national We know who are the persons responsible unity.. The country will break into fragments for her assassination. The court had given a and India will never be the same again. This verdict. Those who are championing the is the greatness of Shrimati Indira Gandhr. cause of accused in Indira Gandhi murder personality and 'of , her contribution to the are now championing the cause of Khalis· natbn.lt is in this context that we should take tan. They have defended the conspirators. a look at her life, her assassination and the Let them now defend the conspirators feeling among Indians in the aftermath of her against whom the charge sheets have been death. filed, let them prove in the Court that th~ are not the conspirators and that there is no Shrimati Indira Gandhi was not just a foreign hand in this conspiracy and all that democratically-elected Prime Minister on they say. Members of opposition party. They the leader of an political party. She was not could have done that. They could have only an able administration, but in her w~ debated in the House and said here is the found the confluence of all those basic ten- lacuna. On the Thakkar Commission's ets of the cultural heritage of our country. A Report and expressed their views. They heritage that has taken root in our life and whavenotdoneso.Theyhaveboyoottedthe blood for thousands of years and which has debate because they have nothing to say. inbibed good things of all ~eligions repre- That is their habit. They have boycotted senting the entire humanity. A heritage in everything. They have boycotted the Budget which humanity has found expression in the discussion also. I would request the Home truest sense. Influenced by the unique per- Minister that the Government should not sonality of the Father or the Nation, she only remain silent by filling chargesheets- followed those ideals. In her frail body lived which the investigating officers have taken a dedicated soul. As a result of which. we 2-3 years with ability but let the Government Indians can be proud that we belong to a come out and say, who are the persons re- country which has produced great souls like sponsible for leakage of the Commission's Mahatma Gandhi, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru Report. Because it is against the oath of and Shrimati Indira Gandhi. The fatal attack secrecy as well as the mandate given by this on Shrimati Indira Gandhi was an attack on House that is should not be published in the the country's accident, present and modern interest of the nation. values on which the edifice of our democratic structure has been built. Under the 'eader- [ Translation] ship of han. Shri Rajiv Gandhi our country is progressing towards the realisation of Ma- THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS hatma Gandhi's dream of 'Vasudhaiva (S. aUTA SINGH): Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, Kutumbakan'in which India is a source of today this august house is about to complete peace and prosperity not only to Indians but the discussion on the Thakkar all mankind. Commission's Report on the assassination of Shrimati Indira Gandhi. Five years have Shrimati Indira Gandhi's life was an passed since the incident and the hone Prime awe-inspiring one. Her mother was Shrimati Minister who spoke here yesterday ex- Kamla Nehru, a patriot and one of the brave pressed his and the nation's feelings. Shri- ladies of her time Pandit Jawaharla! Nehru mati Indira Gandhi is person a has left an was not just a politician, an able administra- indelible impression in the public mind. tion on a great soul. So strong hal been his Their love for her will never die. Shrimati contribution in the nation-building process Indira ,Gandhi dedicated every moment of that his presence can be felt even today in all her life to the service of the nation . The spheres of human',endeavour be it a farmer forget her and what she stood for, would be ploughing his field, a worker toiling in a detrimentat to the well-being of our country factory, a labourer engaged in road con- 587 Motion Re. Interim & APRil 1-1, 198Q of Thakkar 588 Final Repotts Commission

[So Buta Singh] Congress party. WIth the passage of time different personalities emerged on the plat- structlon work on an artist, written, lawyer, form of the Congress Party and left the engineer and pilot practising their respective scene and many more will come and finally professions. He had set very high standards leave. But as king as the b.ic ideals and for us. Our country went thro..,gh a turbul8nt values, for which the Congress party stands, period In the past. 1947 saw chaos reign in guide our actio 'lS, I can say with pride that no the country, riots and bloodshed being the one can ever woaken and humble our coun- order of the day. I was a child when I wit- try. Shrimati Jndira Gandhi personified in nessed the orgy of violence during the parti- herseH the ideals of the Congress party and tion days. Railway trains full of corpses rivers worked for further ,ince of these ideals. I had full ofdead bodies and townrs, villages and the good fortune to witness her performance settlements being burnt to cinders. Who in this House for the last 25 years. I had also could have thought that a nation who suf- the privilege of first seeing Panditji, then fared so much and was

~n made by Shrimati Gandhi for promoting Foodgrains were imported under P.L 480. aacularllm. It Is bad luck that sum situations and cror. of rupees became available to alO88ln the country, which are being wit- U.S.A. to be spent in India and it is known to nessed today in Punjab. Punjab enjoys a all that whole of that money was spent and I. unique place in the freedom struggle of the being spent in India even now against the country. Punjabis have made great sacri- interests of India. So Shrimati Indira Gandhi fices for the country. By Punjabis I mean all took a decision that she would develop agri- our brothers living in and hailing from culture in India to such proportions that her Punjab, Hindus as well as Sikhs, who laid countrymen might not remain dependent on down their lives for attaining independence, other countries for food and she did it. Within whether in Goa or any other part of the few years India, which was a deficient coun- country. In my opinion the present situation try in the matter of foodgrains and which had in Punjab is culmination of a big conspiracy. to import foodgrains worth billions of rupees, H we assess the entire scenario in right turned the tide and I can say with pride that perspective we come to the conclusion that foodgrains grown by the Indian farmers are the powers who want to weaken the country being made available to feed the famine and threaten the very existence of India, stricken people of Africa. It is the result of the made Punjab- the strongest arm of India- efforts made by Shrimati Gandhi. These their first target for creating an atmosphere were the things, which were not liked by the of hatred among the people of ·Punjab over- enemies of the country and that is why I say shadowing the national spirit. The unfortu- this conspiracy has been going on for years. nate sequence of events which led to the It is going on since independence. Commu- criminal act of assassination of Shrimati nal feelings are being incited in every village. Gandhi had in fact started in June, 1984 People are being instigated in the name of although some serious events had taken caste. Who are opposing the Congress? place earlier also, some of which I have The same people, who opposed Pandit mentioned. The result of the incidents which Nehru and Shrimati Gandhi. Those very took place in 1971 on our Bengal, border, is people are siding now with the mljrderers of also linked with the turn of events. Reactions Shrimati Gandhi. My colleague Shri Chi .. such as how to avenge the humiliation suf- dambaram and the Hon. Prime Minister fered at the hands of India or how to settle have sought clarification on Anandpur scores with India are also linked with it. If Saheb Resolution which is a big question seems to me that it is all part of a big mark. In fact it smacks of an attempt to conspiracy which dates back not to the time disintegrate the country. None of the opposi- of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru but that of Ma- tion leaders, who are displaying high hatma Gandhi. There were elements who eloquence on this issue in the House, gave did not want India to emerge as a secular clarification on the Anandpur Saheb Resolu- nation and wanted a writ of a particular class tion till this day. Even now they are advocat- to, run in the country. These actionary com- ing and trying to muster support for this ITt una' and casteist powers made aH sorts of resolution in the country as well as abroad. It effortaduring the time of Pandiiji also. When was only yestefday that the Hon. Prime Shrimati Indira Gandhi first became p·riJne Minister disclosed that a leader of Janta Oal MirHster, $he took revolutionary measure$. itt in aT.V. ,interview in America supported this . the or.ecfJt of enhancing the capacity. of resolution. He is SUpported by ma.,y big f,armer through · green · revolution ,. to .be leaders even today. So, this conspiracy was gIVen to an individual, it Is Shrimatl Gandhi. not hatched in October, 1984, when Shrimati who deserves it. I remember when in 1QS5.. Indira Gahdhi became its victim, but it took 67 the then Minister of Agriculture of our roots long back. Now coming to the Thakkar ·country .... went to America '. to proc.,re CommiS$fon Report, the SCOPe of enquiry foOdgraiAs ·for th$ ·country. he clarlted 1bat ~ restricted to the crime Committed on he had to,approach big nations forfoodgfain S.·;~rt ·1984, the events that took supplies as the country was facing hunger. pld,.'thefiUing of F.I.R. and the matters 591 MotIon RtI. Interim & APRIL 11. 1989 of 'ThIIkIuJr 5. Fin.' Report. Com"""n

[So &uta Singh] areas where even water supply is difficu. to reach, in order to provide relief to the af· conri~ad with the immediate COnspir8C¥. fected, but the members of the OpposJuon . The enquiry by Thakkar Commission re· made sarcastic remarks and accused Shrt volves around these ·points only. There is a Rajiv Gandhi of making political capital out of wider conspiracy behind it. But what is the these visits. Being the Prime Minister and fault of Shri Rajiv Gandhi? His only fault is wolthy leader of a country. Shri Rajiv that he devoted himself in right earnest with Gandhi visited the flood affected areas sincere dedication to the task of the path whether in Assam, Bihar or West Bengal and shown by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and the provided financial help to the people. But the programmes launched and principtes enun- :"iambers of the opposition criticized Shri ciated by Shrimati Indita Gandhi, yt'hether fiapv Gandhi even for this. Many national these related to non,· aligned polaey or w)- p(obrtlms like that of Gorkhaland have been holding of secular V8.:\JQS in :he country or solvod. Shri Rajiv Gandhi made it clear only development of the countrl or self-reliance. yesterday that had he been interested in But these are some powers who do not want fulfilling his political ambitions. he would not the country to march forward on these lines have endeavoured to' solve that probl9m. It .and become strong and remain secular. was a state subject and he would not have These forces are very much at work today, been intervened in the affairs of State Gov- as they were during the time of Shrimati ernment. But Shri Rajiv Gandhi was' deter- Gandhi. I am reminded of the day of 19n mined not to let the State disintegrate be- then Shrimati Gandhi was not in power when cause that would have created a number of she was the first to call on the then Prime problems for the people of the State. There- Minister -and as a true democrat she told him fore, he kept the national interests above that they were voted to power as a result of party Interests and thus solved the problem. popular verdict. She further stated that an Sir " it is a matter of great regret that in order opportUnity was given to them by the people to achieve their political motives, they pre- to administer the country, so she on behaH of ferred not to condemn the assassination of a the Congress Party and the opposition, had great leader of this great country. I think that come to convey to him their readiness to some of the political parties have been extend full cooperation for the service and adopting reactionary and communal attitude collective progress of the country, whenever since the days of Mahatma Gandhi. But I felt needed. I would like to ask the leaders from extremely sorry to see that some of the so- the present opposition as to how many of called progressive and secular parties too them displayed the same spirit and said to joined them. The most regrettable part is that Shri Rajiv Gandhi that he had been returned some of them who had wooed the voters in to this House with unprecedented mandate the name of Shrimati Indira Gandhi and Shri of the people and they were with him in the Rajiv Gandhi. subsequently proved to be service of the nation, whenever needed. traitors to the country and to the party just to Name even a single party . Sir, I would like to satisfy their lust for power. Some persons give you an example. Our country faced the have now joined the opposition and are biggest calamity of drought. In many states engaged in giving a different colour to this like Gujarat, Andhra Pradesh, Rajasthan issue. Sir, as you know, these people tried to and in some areas of Karnataka, there was mislead the people when the Thakkar ,no rain during the last 4-5 years and the Commission Report was presented in the people had to face virtually a famine like House, though I had stated in the House situation. I would like to ask if a single leader earlier that the report was not new to the from the opposition called on Shri Rajiv House. Within 20-22 days of the submission Gandhi and said that is was a national ca- of the report, the entire contents were leaked lamity and offered help. Rather I can quote a out. But no objection was raised during this number of instances wherein the Hon. Prime period of 6-7 months when all these docu- Minister visited the remote and inaccessible ments of the report issued by the Ministry of 593 AfotJon Re. Inttrin & CHAITRA 21, 1911 ($AKA) of Thakkar 594 FInal Repotts Commission

Hom. Affairs, kept on laying atthe residence motorcycle in Allahabad. If he had sought of the one person. The han. Prime Minister ·the help of people in raising funds, the has issued orders to investigate the matter. people would not have raised any not have I am not accusing any particular person. The suspicion about his intentions. Haji Mastan Government would carry out the orders of had to issue a statement in order to expose Shri Rajiv Gandhi to investigate the matter ·the real self of this person. through C.B.1. Then it would become evident who was responsible for the leakage of Sir, this m", who worked as the Minis- some parts of the report which were pub- ter of State for Internal Security for a short lished in the newspapers. Sir, the members duration has stated that he did not go of our party know it very well that these through the documents when the matter individuals who were in the Council of Minis- came up before the CPA. There was no ters earlier, deserted the party and joined the restriction on him. He could have written a opposition. Sir, I feel ashamed to say that note of diSsent. He would have refused to one of these persons claimed that he be- give his assent without going, through the longed to the family of lawyers and law ,documents. To day he is misleading the Ministers. but the same person, who during people all over the country. Such is the his tenure as Law Minister, drafted an ordi- mentality of these people. nance to the effect that it was not in the public interest to present the full report in House, Sir, the less said about the former Min- and also introduced amendment to the i,ter of State for Internal Security, the better Commissions of Enquiry Act for the purpose it. He ruined the party the moment he joined has now denied having seen the report. it. His attitude was totally undignified to- wards the senior partymen who had Sir, I do not want to blame the lawyer struggled forthe freedom of the country and community, because it is a noble profession. for the Congress party and the Sewa 0,,1. He But there are a few lawyers who are mislead- had no regard even for the Chief Minister of ing this supreme oody called Parliament. He a State. He did not call even the names claims to have presented it in the House properly and treated them as if they were his without going throl'gh the matter in depth. servants. Today he is talking about inde- Thus without having read the amendments, pendence, self-respect and integrity. he made recommendation to the Govern- ment and thus misused his position. The Sir, his style of functioning was totally other part of this issue is notification which intolerable, I am sorry I cannot use those was initiated by the then Minister of State for words. I know it very well how he created Internal Security. Both of them are in tho hatred between the two individVals. He did it opposition now. And now, the breach of by creating a unique thing like' the Internal privilege is being brought against Buta Singh Security. The Minister of Home Affairs was and he is being asked to give the details. seldom oonsulted in this regard. He never showed the concerned file to his seniors. I Sir, the third one who considers himself cannot describe in words how he misused to be 'Rajrishi' speaks of value-based poli- his poSition. Report of Thakkar Cortlmission tics, and is busy in studying the prevailing is a glaring example. He did not let any body C9rruption in the society. Haji Mastan, a know about the reports of security agencies smuggler exposed him recently when he and he was so clever in manipulation that·he stated that Vishwanath Pratap Singh is guihy did nQt let any paper move without his ap- of breach offaith. He said that he helped him proval. to raise funds form high ups but today he was speaking against the same community. It is I think the nation owes a great deal to ridiculous on the part of a man who gets Shri Rajiv Gandhi expelled such a person money from person like Haji Mastan to claim from 'the party and provided the much that he used water in place of petrol in his needed relief. His close associates know 595 Motion Re. Interim & APRIL 11 t 1989 01 Thakkar 598 FitW RepoIts Commission

[So Buta Singh] them. In the real sense, she was an ,out- standing personality, the soul of the nation what type of communal feeHngs he has and and the mother of the nation. SO ,my col- how he incited the communal feelings league Shri Chidambaram has cleared "all amo~ the people. There were many com- doubts raised in newspapers about the rec- munal minded people in the Opposition who ommendations made ,by the Tha1

[So Buta Singh] that though Shri R.K. Dhawan is a mer. Govemment servant as per the terma of his directly in the court but there are provisions appointment, but in those days of 19nwhen in the law under which it is mandatory to seek Shrimati Indira Gandhi was out of power for , concurrence of the Central or State Govern- some days, only one individual could be ments. The raport was received by us in this seen at her residence. Not .carrying for his connection on the basis of which challan was service and carrier, Shri R. K. Dhawan dedi- to be filed in the court. Report was discussed cated his whole life and services for her. He through out the country, by the opposition himself, his respected father. brothers and parties and when it was stated that it did not sisters had to face harassment at the hands mention the names of those persons who of Central Government through Commis- had been brought to the light. The they sion, courts and police. Harsh steps were stal1ed talking in sings and a needle of taken again~t him. But this person, jnspite of suspicion. conjuctures and many other all this, turned out to be sterling gold. Unfor- things was pointed at Shri R.K. Dhawan tun~ely, he is again made to pass through against whom special Investigation Team the same difficulties. I have had a chance to was pursuing the case and perhaps it needs work with him in those days as humble no mention what methods they might have worker of the party. Whatever I saw under adopted to find out the truth. It was a regour- the leadership of Shrimati Indira Gandhi, I ous investigation which continued for a pe- can say on that basis that Shri R.K. Dhawan riod of 3-4 years. Complete enquiries were is a man of that metal that none but only he made abut the movements of his own. his could pass through such stralna. I pray to family members, relatives, friends and all the God that he should not test any other man in people with whom he had contacts. No that way because howsoever strOng he may Member of the opposition has been able to be he could have shattered and collapsed say about it. In this regard. no leniency or but she stood firm like a true man. He had relaxation was shown by the Government. trust in himself, and his leader and I feel that But they found no proof against him. I need it is his soul which has rescued him through not go into the details of these proofs which this crisis. Therefore, there is no point of find a mention in his diary because no body justification for some people to have doubts would write in his diary that he is a C.I.A. against him because they have only one aim agent and is getting money from some"for- of capturing power through some conspir- eign agency. However, Thakkar Commis- acy. Just see their activities. Even being the sion Report had covered under their investi- Finance Minister of the country he had rela· gation all those things which were rGpOrted tions with the Foreign agency without the to the Commission. The case was fully in- knowledge of the cabinet, the Prime Minister vestigated as per the provisions of law. after and this house. What sc 1 of politician he this investigation, when the entire case was claims himself to be. If $uch people raise submitted to me for approval of the Govern- their fingars against Shri Dhawan who had ment of India, it was naturally my duty to dedicated his entire life to the country, to his enquire about the points covered under the leader and to the party, then it has no mean- investigation of this case of conspiracy and ing. I feel that even if I have not got any other scrutinize every aSj)ect minutely against thing from the Thakkar Commission report, whom the challans were to be filed. On the at least this much I have found that the report basis of proper investigation in regard to the has exposed the faces of such people. Now point of suspicion and conjection. I was told people have come to know that they can that Shri R.K. Dhawan has been found to be stoop too low to achieve their political ends. having no connection with any part of the That is why, hon. Sir, I want this House to pay crime. Therefore, we connot involve his tributes specially to Shri Rajiv Gandhi and to nama in this conspiracy. Shrimati Indira Gandhi who saved the coun- try with the sacrifice of her life. We should Hon. Sir. I have been fortunate to see preserve for ever the memory of her good 101 Motion R•• Interim" OHAITRA 21, 1811 (SAKA) o( Thakkar lOa Final If.,,,, Comm.,lon dHd. and h.r IIOrifloe. 10 that our country .t.nd. adjoumld ~o re·.... mbl. tomorrow m.y remain united .nd Integrated forev.r at 1, 100 A.M • • nd It maintain. tt. IOv.relgnty. 11.44 hr•• [Engll.h] Th. Lolc Sabha then adjoum«J till Eleven of the Clock on Wedn ••d.y, April 11, MA. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The Hou •• 'NWCha/tra", 1," (Saka)

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