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Official Report Meeting of the Parliament Tuesday 11 September 2018 Session 5 © Parliamentary copyright. Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Information on the Scottish Parliament’s copyright policy can be found on the website - www.parliament.scot or by contacting Public Information on 0131 348 5000 Tuesday 11 September 2018 CONTENTS Col. TIME FOR REFLECTION ....................................................................................................................................... 1 TOPICAL QUESTION TIME ................................................................................................................................... 3 North West Community Campus (Dumfries) ................................................................................................ 3 Livestock (Exports) ....................................................................................................................................... 7 EUROPEAN UNION EXIT PREPARATIONS ........................................................................................................... 13 Statement—[Michael Russell]. The Cabinet Secretary for Government Business and Constitutional Relations (Michael Russell) ........... 13 SOCIAL ENTERPRISE WORLD FORUM 2018 ....................................................................................................... 26 Motion moved—[Aileen Campbell]. Amendment moved—[Dean Lockhart]. Amendment moved—[Monica Lennon]. The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government (Aileen Campbell) ................................. 26 Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ............................................................................................ 30 Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) ................................................................................................... 33 Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) .............................................................................................................. 35 Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) ........................................................................................................... 37 Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) ................................................................................................................. 39 Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) ............................................................................................................... 41 James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) ..................................................................................................................... 43 John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) ................................................................................................. 45 Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) .............................................................................. 47 Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) .................................................................................................... 50 Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) .............................................................................................. 53 George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) ................................................................................................................... 55 Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) .................................................................................................................. 57 Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) ................................................................................................ 59 Michelle Ballantyne (South Scotland) (Con) ............................................................................................... 61 Aileen Campbell.......................................................................................................................................... 64 BUSINESS MOTION ........................................................................................................................................... 67 Motion moved—[Graeme Dey]—and agreed to. DECISION TIME ................................................................................................................................................ 68 THE ECOLOGY CENTRE (KINGHORN) ................................................................................................................ 73 Motion debated—[Claire Baker]. Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) ................................................................................................ 73 David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) .............................................................................................................. 76 Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) ...................................................................................... 78 Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) ................................................................................................ 79 Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) ................................................................................. 80 The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Mairi Gougeon) ........................................... 82 1 11 SEPTEMBER 2018 2 people opportunities and hope, we will help Scottish Parliament ourselves and safeguard the future of the world. Tuesday 11 September 2018 Perhaps that task falls more to people such as you who have the luxury of freedom and opportunity. In chapter 94 of the holy Qur’an, it [The Presiding Officer opened the meeting at says: 14:00] “So when thou art free strive hard”. Time for Reflection It guides mankind to achieve peace by the “freeing of a slave” and The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh): The first item of business is time for reflection. Our time “feeding in the day of hunger an orphan near of kin or a poor man lying in the dust”. for reflection leader is Mr Fareed Ahmad, national secretary for external affairs in the national Those in power such as you are uniquely executive of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community positioned to help create a better world. The UK. question is, will you? Mr Fareed Ahmad (National Executive of the The founder of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Ahmadiyya Muslim Community UK): Thank you community Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad—peace for the opportunity to speak today. be upon him—whom we accept as the promised Messiah, guided us and said: In the name of Allah the gracious and merciful, my contribution stems from the words and “The principle to which we adhere is that we have guidance of His Holiness Hazrat Mirza Masroor kindness at heart for the whole of mankind.” Ahmad, the caliph and worldwide head of the I put it to you that that, in truth, is a principle for us Ahmadiyya Muslim community. all. The world is passing through precarious times. Let us begin each day with such compassion in There is a rise in division, hate and injustice. our hearts to help those in need, and let us end Society has become polarised, nations have each day knowing that we have made a difference threatened one another, conflicts have become to end suffering, injustice and inequality, so that widespread and inequality has increased. The we bequeath to our future generations, wherever plight of people in the world’s poorest nations is they may be, a world of peace rather than a world truly desperate and their poverty is heartbreaking. at war. They wake up each day wondering whether it will be their last. Hundreds of millions of people do not have access to clean drinking water; they make do, struggle and survive by using dirty pond water. The struggle for survival means that nearly a quarter of a billion children are deprived of education. Today, their hardship is compounded by modern technology, through which they see the great disparity between them and the people who live in comfort in developed countries. That feeds resentment that is preyed upon by extremists, who entice them with money and the promise of a better life. Similarly, targeting illiterate youth gives extremists free rein to radicalise and brainwash, taking advantage of the fact that the rulers of those countries have more often than not failed their people. Dear friends, those are not other people’s problems, as they directly affect global peace and security. Every effort must be made to raise the standards of the developing world. Poor nations must not be looked down on; rather, we should consider them as part of our family—as our brothers and sisters. By helping developing nations to stand on their own feet and giving their 3 11 SEPTEMBER 2018 4 Topical Question Time scrutiny has been undertaken to ensure that the quality of the building is as it should be. Having discussed the matter with Dumfries and Galloway Council, I can say that I have seen extensive work 14:05 that is being undertaken to secure the necessary North West Community Campus (Dumfries) confirmation that the standards of the building are as they should be. Quite clearly, that has not been 1. Finlay Carson (Galloway and West satisfactory. Dumfries) (Con): To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with Dumfries and The council must—I know that it is intent on Galloway Council regarding the closure of the new doing this—hold the contractors to account, North West community campus in Dumfries. (S5T- because these are contractual issues. None of 01213) these things should be anticipated or expected in the delivery of a school building, so the contractor The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet must be held to account
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