BOARD MEETING 1/14/2016
Page 1 1 ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF LABOR
2 AMUSEMENT RIDE AND ATTRACTION SAFETY BOARD
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12 JANUARY 14, 2016
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16 ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
17 AUDITORIUM
18 2300 SOUTH DIRKSEN PARKWAY
19 SPRINGFIELD, ILLINOIS
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Page 2 1 BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:
2 Mr. Hugo Chaviano, Director
3 Ms. Patty Sullivan, Chairwoman
4 Mr. Bill Sparks, Member
5 Ms. Linda Givand Rhodes, Member
6 Mr. Joe Redshaw, Member
7 Mr. Marvin Perzee, Member
8 Mr. Angelo Mazzenga, Member (by phone)
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11 Ms. Helen J. Kim, General Counsel
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Page 3 1 (Meeting began at 3:56 P.M.)
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3 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Good afternoon,
4 everyone. Wonderful, wonderful turnout. I guess
5 we're blessed with a beautiful day today. I
6 think it was about six degrees when I woke up in
7 Chicago yesterday. So this is quite a change of
8 weather. So I guess it kind of inspires me to
9 maybe move down to Springfield full time.
10 But this is my first board meeting in
11 Springfield. I attended the first meeting in
12 Chicago last July, I believe, we did it.
13 In any event, my name is Hugo
14 Chaviano. I'm the new director of the Department
15 of Labor. I actually just commemorated my first
16 anniversary since being named by the governor to
17 serve in this capacity, and this is one of the
18 boards that by statute I am charged with, you
19 know, being a part of, and it's really one of the
20 boards that I enjoy the most because your
21 industry really represents fun not only for our
22 children but also for adults.
23 And I have had a little bit of a
24 taste of that, having gone to one of the
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Page 4 1 inspections with one of my team members to Great
2 America and being treated to some of the rides
3 there. So I'm very open to being invited to one
4 of your carnivals, certainly when the weather
5 obviously gets better.
6 But in any event, I know that all of
7 you have great concerns for safety in your
8 industry, and that speaks very highly of you not
9 only by making the statements and support that
10 you give it but actually by being here in person.
11 So without further ado, I would like
12 to introduce our new chairman. Thank you.
13 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Welcome,
14 everyone. I'm Patty Sullivan with Eli Bridge
15 Company, and I'm your chair this year.
16 I'd like to send this all the way
17 down the line so everybody gets a chance to
18 introduce themselves to you. We are your board
19 members, and we're here to work for the safety of
20 your businesses and for the safety of your
21 customers so that we can all work together and
22 make Illinois a safer place to live and work.
23 So, Bill, would you --
24 MR. SPARKS: Bill Sparks, American
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Page 5 1 Banner Amusements.
2 MR. REDSHAW: I'm Joe Redshaw,
3 Redshaw Insurance Agency in Rushville -- big city
4 of Rushville, Illinois
5 MR. PERZEE: I'm Marvin Perzee from
6 Iroquois County, and I'm with the county fair.
7 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. Well,
8 I'll call the meeting to order, and let me say
9 that it is nice to see everybody out here, and we
10 appreciate the director being here with us and
11 showing such an interest in our particular board.
12 Without further ado, we have an
13 agenda in front of all the board members, and if
14 anybody has any additions that they would like to
15 make to the agenda, now is the time. Otherwise,
16 I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda
17 as presented.
18 MR. SPARKS: I make a motion.
19 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. Motion
20 made by Bill.
21 Do I have a second?
22 MR. REDSHAW: Second.
23 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: And second by
24 Redshaw.
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Page 6 1 Those in favor?
2 (Voice vote was taken.)
3 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Those opposed?
4 (No response.)
5 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Abstentions?
6 (No response.)
7 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. I guess
8 we will move forward with this agenda.
9 The next thing we have is approval of
10 minutes and -- which is going to be kind of a
11 tough thing because we just received the minutes,
12 and I don't know if everybody has had a chance to
13 look through them yet.
14 Would it be okay if I tabled this
15 till maybe the next meeting so we'll have a
16 chance to read through them first?
17 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: You're the chair.
18 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay.
19 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: I was just
20 wondering: Should we introduce whomever's on the
21 phone?
22 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Oh, I'm sorry.
23 It's Angelo on the phone, isn't it?
24 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: I don't know.
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Page 7 1 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Angelo, would
2 you like to introduce yourself?
3 MR. MAZZENGA: Yes. I'm Angelo
4 Mazzenga, and I'm the engineer member, and I'm
5 calling in from work in Alexandria, Virginia.
6 COURT REPORTER: I can't hear him.
7 Calling in from where?
8 MR. MAZZENGA: Thank you, Patty.
9 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Uh-huh. Thank
10 you.
11 That was Angelo Mazzenga, and he is
12 at work in Alexandria, Virginia, calling in, and
13 he is our engineering member of the board or
14 engineer member of the board.
15 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Right. And I
16 would just add that, you know, for purposes of
17 record keeping, that we do have a quorum at this
18 time for the meeting.
19 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Yes.
20 So unless -- has anybody had a chance
21 to go through the minutes that you would feel
22 comfortable making a motion?
23 (No response.)
24 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Well, then, I
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Page 8 1 would like to table approving the minutes till
2 perhaps the next meeting so that everybody has a
3 chance to read them first.
4 We have some old business, and that
5 is rider safety/responsibility language, and I
6 need to pass out the re-revised version of them.
7 It's two pages.
8 So what we have done at this point is
9 we have revised the -- what was submitted last
10 year, and I would like for us to read them very
11 carefully here and then either vote to approve to
12 go forward with these or discuss what we would
13 want to change to be able to go forward with them
14 and have them added in to our regulations.
15 If you'd like, I'll just read through
16 them so the audience can all hear what -- what is
17 involved in them. I've got a few extra copies if
18 somebody would like to come up and pass a few
19 out. Anybody? There's two pages.
20 The first thing is just an addition
21 to definitions, and it's a definition of
22 "intoxicated" which "means a person is under the
23 influence of alcohol, a controlled substance, or
24 any substance having the property of releasing
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Page 9 1 toxic vapors to a degree that a person may
2 endanger himself or another in a public place or
3 in a private place where he unreasonably disturbs
4 other persons."
5 And then the next section is the
6 Rider Safety Section. "An amusement park,
7 carnival, and family entertainment center shall
8 inform riders in writing, where appropriate, of
9 the nature of the ride, including factors which
10 would assist riders in determining whether they
11 should participate in the ride activity and the
12 rules concerning conduct on each ride.
13 Information concerning the rules of conduct may
14 be given verbally at the beginning of each ride
15 segment or posted in writing conspicuously at the
16 entrance to each ride.
17 "Riders are responsible for obeying
18 the posted rules and verbal instructions of the
19 amusement ride operator.
20 "A rider may not board or dismount
21 from an amusement ride except at a designated
22 area; board an amusement ride if he or she has a
23 physical condition that maybe aggravated by
24 participation on the ride; disconnect, disable,
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Page 10 1 or attempt to disconnect or disable any safety
2 device, seat belt, harness, or other restraining
3 device before, during, or after movement of the
4 amusement ride has started except at the express
5 instruction of the operator; throw or expel any
6 object from an amusement ride; act in my manner
7 contrary to the posted or oral rules while
8 boarding, riding, or dismounting from an
9 amusement ride; or engage in any reckless act or
10 activity which may injure himself or others.
11 "A rider may not board or attempt to
12 board any amusement ride if he is intoxicated.
13 "An operator of an amusement park,
14 carnival, or FEC ride may prevent a rider who is
15 perceptibly or apparently intoxicated from
16 boarding an amusement ride.
17 "An operator who prevents a rider
18 from boarding an amusement ride under this
19 section is not criminally or civilly liable if
20 the operator reasonably believes that the rider
21 is intoxicated.
22 "An amusement park, carnival, or
23 family entertainment center shall post signs and
24 notices in conspicuous locations throughout the
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Page 11 1 venue, informing riders of the importance of
2 reporting all injuries sustained on amusement
3 park, carnival, and FEC premises. The signs
4 shall contain the location where any injuries may
5 be reported.
6 "A rider or the parent or guardian of
7 a minor rider on the minor's behalf may report in
8 writing to the amusement facility or its
9 designated agent any injury sustained on an
10 amusement ride before leaving the amusement
11 facility premises unless the rider or parent or
12 guardian of a minor rider is unable to file a
13 report because of the severity of the injuries to
14 the rider.
15 "The report shall be filed as soon as
16 reasonably possible and include the name,
17 address, and phone number of the injured person;
18 if the injured person is a minor, the name,
19 address, and phone number of the parent or
20 guardian filing the report; a brief description
21 of the incident causing the injury, including the
22 location, date, and time of the injury; a
23 description of the injury, including the cause if
24 known; and the name, address, and phone number of
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Page 12 1 any known witnesses to the incident.
2 "The actions of any rider of
3 sufficient age and knowledge to assume the
4 inherent risks of an amusement ride who violates
5 the provisions of Subsections 3, 4, or 5 may be
6 considered by the court in a civil action brought
7 by a rider against the amusement park, carnival,
8 and FEC's operator for injuries sustained while
9 at the amusement park, carnival, and FECs for the
10 purpose of allocating fault between the parties."
11 The end.
12 So I know that's a lot to take in.
13 Does anybody on the board have comments or
14 questions or -- this was passed out in basically
15 this form last year. A few things have been
16 deleted and changed, and I would certainly
17 entertain questions and comments.
18 MS. KIM: I guess what is the -- do
19 you intend on -- is this a recommendation that
20 the board is making -- that the department adopt
21 these rules?
22 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Yes.
23 MS. KIM: Okay. So it's just a
24 recommendation.
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Page 13 1 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Yes.
2 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: And that was our
3 general counsel, Helen Kim.
4 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Questions?
5 Comments?
6 MR. SPARKS: I'm good with it.
7 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Is anybody going
8 to --
9 In a prior life I was a lawyer --
10 defense lawyer, actually -- representing large
11 companies and manufacturers in personal injury
12 litigation.
13 I think that something like this may
14 have some issues from a legal standpoint in terms
15 of enforceability because, you know, there would
16 already be law in Illinois that would address,
17 you know, comparative negligence, assumption of
18 the risk, and those types of issues.
19 But I'm not here to delve from that
20 standpoint. I'm just kind of raising that as a
21 potential issue with something like this.
22 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you.
23 And I know that this still has to go
24 through the JCAR and quite a few more steps
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Page 14 1 before it would become part of our regulations,
2 and we would be happy to have a legal opinion on
3 if -- especially if the last -- if 8 -- No. 8 in
4 here is not something that you think would --
5 would be able to be acceptable in Illinois
6 because of other laws already on the books, then
7 I'd be happy to talk about it. We can -- we can
8 mark it out, change it, do whatever we need to
9 do.
10 This is -- this is mostly to have
11 the -- have operators try to give the heads-up to
12 all riders and their parents where that is a
13 factor of what -- you know, what does the ride
14 do. Of course, we always encourage riders to
15 watch a ride before they get on, but also that,
16 just like there are rules of the road, there are
17 rules of the ride. There are rules on planes for
18 what you can -- may and may not do, and the rules
19 of the rides are important. This isn't a, if I
20 may use the term, "magical kingdom" where nothing
21 bad can happen to you. The laws of physics still
22 apply when you're on a carnival or park ride, and
23 this is to help the parents and riders -- parents
24 of minor children and other riders understand
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Page 15 1 what will help them have a -- have a happy
2 experience and to avoid things that won't.
3 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Yeah. I would
4 just say -- and, again, I'm not, you know,
5 weighing on the merits of something like this. I
6 mean, you know, people like me who have raised
7 three boys get it. So it's not that the issue --
8 but I think, just from a -- from an industry
9 standpoint, it may be helpful -- especially if
10 this is something important, you know, for the
11 industry that's present, you know, the
12 manufacturers or whatever -- that rather than
13 just be a proposal in this kind of written form,
14 if you would have, you know, a legal opinion
15 supporting why something like this, you know,
16 would not, you know, be an issue or should not be
17 an issue, that would probably, you know, go a
18 long way towards helping those that need to
19 analyze this in another light for, you know,
20 adopting it or whatever.
21 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. Well,
22 thank you. We're always looking for experts to
23 help us out.
24 Well, so that we can go forward
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Page 16 1 starting with this document, I would -- I guess
2 we really need a motion to accept the concept of
3 moving forward with this and making whatever
4 changes we need to make to keep the -- keep it
5 within the legal requirements of our -- yeah, the
6 legal requirements of our state and that will be
7 within the acceptance of our boards like the JCAR
8 committee and have everyone happy with the way it
9 reads.
10 So we're not -- we're not making a
11 motion to approve this exactly the way it is but
12 to approve moving forward with it to, as the
13 Director recommended, getting a legal opinion and
14 providing that with it and perhaps having another
15 meeting sometime during the summer to move on
16 forward with this and other things that will
17 probably come up later in this meeting.
18 MR. SPARKS: I'll make that motion.
19 COURT REPORTER: I'm sorry. I need
20 to hear you.
21 MR. SPARKS: I said I'll make a
22 motion.
23 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Do I hear a
24 second?
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Page 17 1 MR. PERZEE: I'll second it.
2 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Seconded by
3 Marvin Perzee.
4 Any discussion?
5 (No response.)
6 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Those in favor?
7 (Voice vote taken.)
8 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: I abstain.
9 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay.
10 Those opposed?
11 (No response.)
12 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: And one
13 abstention.
14 Okay. Thank you.
15 Then we will move forward with making
16 that into a document that we feel comfortable in
17 presenting to the state to become part of our
18 regulations.
19 The next thing is the anti-waiver
20 clause, and I believe that was submitted at the
21 last meeting, and I don't know -- is there a copy
22 of that in here? Let's look at the minutes and
23 see if maybe it was put in at the end. I don't
24 see it there. Okay. No, I don't -- I don't see
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Page 18 1 anything in here that we can refer to.
2 But I know it was a comment that
3 wanted -- that Dan wanted to be added in to our
4 regulations to prevent anyone from -- or any
5 entity from having a customer sign a waiver
6 clause, and I think we need to go ahead and act
7 on whether we go forward with that too.
8 I guess the one thing that I see as a
9 problem with that is the ski industry is already
10 part of what our board is responsible for, and
11 the ski industry already has the ability to have
12 their skiers sign waivers. If they as much as go
13 on -- out on the mountain, they have appreciably
14 waived their rights because they're responsible
15 to ski in a safe manner and within their
16 capabilities.
17 So as far as adding an anti-waiver
18 clause to our particular regulations, I would
19 think that would be something that couldn't fly
20 because we already have laws to the contrary.
21 Are there any other comments or
22 questions on that?
23 (No response.)
24 MS. KIM: I'm sorry. Could you
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Page 19 1 repeat that? Not the -- just the last of the --
2 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. Well, I
3 would like us to go ahead and move forward
4 whether we want to follow through looking into
5 this further or not because my concern is that
6 the ski industry, who is part of our purview on
7 this board --
8 MS. KIM: So you want to see if you
9 can -- you want to take a vote on whether or not
10 you want to move forward to look into the
11 discussion.
12 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Yes.
13 MS. KIM: Okay.
14 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN Okay?
15 Would anybody be willing to make a
16 motion to -- to say, "Yes, we would like to
17 pursue this;" or, "No, we would not like to
18 pursue this for our board to consider"?
19 (No response.)
20 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Nobody's saying
21 anything.
22 Well, I don't know, then, Robert's
23 Rules-wise. Can -- can a chair make a motion?
24 MS. KIM: No.
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Page 20 1 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. I didn't
2 think so. Okay.
3 Well, then, I --
4 MR. PERZEE: Is what you're wanting
5 to do is to look into this a little further?
6 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: No. What I
7 want to do is have us decide, (a), do we want to
8 look into it; or, (b), do we want to basically
9 throw it out because it is contrary to laws that
10 are already in place.
11 So I'm looking for a motion for one
12 of those.
13 (Ms. Rhodes arrived.)
14 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: And we have
15 another board member with us.
16 MS. RHODES: Hello. I'm sorry that
17 I'm late.
18 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: That's okay.
19 MS. RHODES: Coming from another
20 meeting.
21 CHAIRWOMAN RHODES: This is Linda
22 Rhodes.
23 So, Marvin, were you getting ready to
24 make a motion?
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Page 21 1 MR. PERZEE: I don't know if I'm
2 getting ready to make a motion but --
3 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Use the
4 microphone, please.
5 MR. PERZEE: If the laws are already
6 on the books that says that this isn't
7 applicable, then shouldn't we stop here with it?
8 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Well, that's my
9 thought, but this was brought up to the board,
10 and I think we need to make a decision to not --
11 not pursue it further if -- for that reason
12 unless someone wants to.
13 MR. PERZEE: I would make that
14 motion.
15 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. Not to
16 pursue this particular -- an anti-waiver clause?
17 Right? Okay.
18 COURT REPORTER: I need a verbal
19 answer, please.
20 MR. PERZEE: Yes.
21 COURT REPORTER: Thank you.
22 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Do I hear a
23 second?
24 MR. SPARKS: I'll second it.
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Page 22 1 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Seconded by
2 Bill.
3 Now, is there any other discussion?
4 (No response.)
5 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Then I would
6 call for a vote.
7 Those in favor say "Aye."
8 (Voice vote taken.)
9 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Those opposed?
10 No?
11 (No response.)
12 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Abstain.
13 MS. RHODES: I abstain.
14 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Those
15 abstaining.
16 MS. RHODES: Just got here.
17 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Two abstain.
18 Two abstentions. Okay.
19 Then there were five ayes, two
20 abstentions.
21 Then the motion passes, and we will
22 not pursue the anti-waiver clause.
23 For new business, we are ready to
24 have our division manager report, and Bill
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Page 23 1 Szerletich is going to give that report because
2 Ryan is no longer with our agency.
3 COURT REPORTER: Bill, I need you to
4 spell your last name for me, please.
5 MR. SZERLETICH: S-z-e-r-l-e-t-i-c-h.
6 Okay. Thank you very much. For you
7 people that don't know who I am, I'm Bill
8 Szerletich, and I'm the central Illinois
9 inspector, and I'm going to call out our other
10 inspectors. Since I'm up here, they're going to
11 stand up too.
12 Margaret Royer from Chicago is our
13 senior inspector back there. They're all back
14 there.
15 (Applause.)
16 MR. SZERLETICH: Matt Rohman is the
17 northwest territory inspector.
18 (Applause.)
19 MR. SZERLETICH: Brian Brown is our
20 south -- southern Illinois inspector.
21 (Applause.)
22 MR. SZERLETICH: And Pete Tomczuk is
23 our Chicago inspector, our newest inspector.
24 (Applause.)
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Page 24 1 MR. SZERLETICH: Pete actually had
2 his first full year on his own and did very well.
3 So what I want to do is go over some
4 stats for the amusement ride division, and we
5 actually had -- well, first, we'll go over the
6 statistics. We'll go over accident report,
7 safety bulletins, and department updates.
8 We had an uptick in inspections, for
9 sure, with Pete coming on.
10 The show dates, a little less. As
11 you can see, in 2015 we did 1,430 show dates.
12 1,183 follow-up inspections. That's
13 up about 120 inspections from last year.
14 4,230 inspections issued total, and
15 that's up about 440.
16 672 total locations, and 398 total
17 companies. 50 more locations, and about 50 more
18 companies than last year.
19 Our accident report this year, we
20 had -- or I'm sorry -- last year. In 2015 we had
21 21 accidents. That's down from 2014 but still
22 kind of up where we don't really want to see
23 them.
24 Out of those 21 accidents, 17 of them
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Page 25 1 were non-mechanical, 4 of them were mechanical.
2 And I think what I'll do is just
3 summarize this a little bit.
4 8 of these non-mechanical incidents
5 were actually, as you can see, simulators from
6 two different companies. You take that away,
7 that significantly reduces it.
8 We had a non-mechanical incident on a
9 train that ran into an elevator at the mall.
10 We had a mechanical injury cause some
11 back pain.
12 A non-mechanical where someone had a
13 seizure.
14 Another non-mechanical, laceration on
15 forehead.
16 Mechanical on a coaster that caused
17 two people to get injured. One was a pain in
18 their thigh, and the other one was a pain in
19 their rib.
20 We did have one fatality this year --
21 last year. I'm sorry. It was a non-mechanical
22 on Pharoah's Fury. As you can see, the
23 individual entered underneath the ride while the
24 ride was in motion and was struck.
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Page 26 1 We had another non-mechanical where a
2 patron fell, hit the side of the platform, and
3 cut their lip.
4 Another that was a laceration on the
5 head.
6 Another non-mechanical that was a
7 fracture and dislocation of their -- a bone in
8 their neck.
9 And then a mechanical, laceration on
10 the forehead.
11 A haunted house that had a wall
12 partition tip over. We're not sure where the
13 injury was.
14 And, finally, another non-mechanical
15 that was an inflatable, elbow fracture.
16 And that takes care of the accidents.
17 Like I said, 17 were non-mechanical, 4 of them
18 were mechanical. And that's the breakdown of the
19 accident reports by year.
20 MS. RHODES: Quick question for the
21 chair. If there are questions from the board
22 about the accident report, did you want that to
23 be after he's finished?
24 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: I would ask --
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Page 27 1 as far as the accidents go, I would ask about
2 them now while we're -- I would ask them about
3 them now while we've just gone through them so
4 you don't forget.
5 MS. RHODES: Thank you, Patty.
6 The question I just have is if
7 there's any additional information you're able to
8 share on the fatality.
9 MR. SZERLETICH: Actually, one of our
10 inspectors that was the first one on the scene
11 may be able to speak to that.
12 Pete, could you help her out?
13 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Would you stand
14 up, please.
15 COURT REPORTER: And maybe get the
16 microphone.
17 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Yeah, there's a
18 microphone coming.
19 COURT REPORTER: And your name?
20 MR. TOMCZUK: My name is Peter
21 Tomczuk.
22 What I can tell you is that we were
23 advised it's under legal matters. There hasn't
24 be been anything set forth yet. I can tell you
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Page 28 1 what I did, how the company responded, but I
2 can't go into any further.
3 We were advised that a ride was
4 called. Margaret, the senior inspector, was
5 called. We both showed up at the scene.
6 The company advised us that there was
7 a fatality within seconds of it happening. I
8 returned back to the scene itself, did an
9 investigation, worked with Naperville police,
10 DuPage County coroner's office. And then we were
11 advised -- Ryan advised us to not speak to
12 anybody, and then legal -- you know, legal office
13 took over, and that's as far as we can go.
14 MS. RHODES: Thank you.
15 MR. TOMCZUK: Thank you.
16 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: In other words,
17 we --
18 COURT REPORTER: I'm sorry?
19 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: I said, in
20 other words, I guess at this time there isn't
21 other information that we can get.
22 The customer ran under it then or --
23 but I didn't understand --
24 MR. SZERLETICH: We may have
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Page 29 1 something that I might be able to find. I would
2 have to --
3 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Enlighten us?
4 MR.SZERLETICH: -- look and see.
5 Yeah. I'm not sure where it was left off.
6 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay.
7 MR. SZERLETICH: Because I think Ryan
8 and Pete, I'm assuming, did the report on it?
9 MR. TOMCZUK: Yes.
10 MR. SZERLETICH: But it was my
11 understanding that he went into an area of the
12 ride where he shouldn't have been while the ride
13 was in motion, was struck, and outside of that, I
14 don't know. I'll have to look and see what I can
15 get for you.
16 MS. RHODES: Patty, thanks for
17 letting me ask.
18 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Sure.
19 MS. RHODES: And I appreciate the
20 addit -- any additional information you're able
21 to share with us in case there are some learnings
22 we can take into account based on why we're here.
23 We can't control everything, but if there's
24 something that we can influence, that we can
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Page 30 1 capture those learnings and see what we can do,
2 if anything.
3 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Maybe prevent
4 the next one.
5 MS. RHODES: Correct.
6 MR. SZERLETICH: Well, I'll certainly
7 look for it and see where we're at with it.
8 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you.
9 MR. SZERLETICH: So moving on to the
10 safety bulletins for 2015, we have, I think,
11 about six of them.
12 Mainly, the Wisdom Gravitron,
13 Starship, Alien Abduction, Centrifuge. You guys
14 have probably all seen the bulletin on the trap
15 door where the manufacturer's requiring it to be
16 locked, bolted, or welded shut. And then they
17 came out in April with another alternative, and
18 that's installing a microswitch to the trap door.
19 And nothing has changed from that point. I had
20 heard some, you know, talkings about maybe the
21 manufacturer changing their mind again, but we
22 haven't seen nothing.
23 The next thing is the Zamperla Family
24 Coaster. They had cracking on the T-bars for the
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Page 31 1 rides that have been in service for little over
2 15 years. They want those to be NDT'd. I think
3 it's mag particle that they're requesting. It's
4 an inspection -- mag particle inspection.
5 Fabbri has the Sky Tower. I don't
6 know of anybody that has a Fabbri Sky Tower, but
7 the Sky Tower installation -- they want to have a
8 catching device installed on it as a safety
9 backup for a cable failure, and then an
10 engineering study to be done on it every year.
11 And Fabbri, from what I understand,
12 is out of business.
13 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Really?
14 MR. SPARKS: I didn't know that.
15 MR. SZERLETICH: Couple --
16 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Do you know
17 when they supposedly went out of business?
18 MR. SZERLETICH: No. This particular
19 bulletin talked about that.
20 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay.
21 MR. SZERLETICH: And it didn't really
22 say when. It just said that they are currently
23 out of business, and the owners of the ride
24 basically are taking responsibility as a
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Page 32 1 manufacturer for the ride.
2 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. Thank
3 you.
4 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: If I may, Bill,
5 by way of adding on to the question regarding
6 this unfortunate incident, I was just provided
7 with a Chicago Tribune article where it talks
8 about the death being ruled a suicide, and this
9 is what the newsflash dated August 18, 2015,
10 says: "The death of a man on the opening day of
11 Naperville's annual Ribfest celebration over the
12 4th of July weekend has been ruled a suicide by
13 the DuPage County coroner's office," and then it
14 goes on to, you know, talk about the incident in
15 more detail.
16 Thank you.
17 MS. RHODES: Thank you.
18 MR. SZERLETICH: So getting back to
19 the bulletins here, it looks like there's a
20 couple ski lift bulletins -- and a couple of our
21 ski lift facilities actually have lifts --
22 talking about the underspeed switch for the
23 emergency brake system. Some of the underspeed
24 switches were not sensing properly and needed to
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Page 33 1 be replaced. It has to sense so many feet per
2 minute, and if it doesn't do that, the brakes
3 will kick in. So Partek and Borgiv were two of
4 the lifts that has that underspeed switch.
5 And also a Doppelmayr bulletin came
6 out for the detachable type A spring guide slide
7 grips that was getting -- they were finding
8 hairline cracks during NDTs on the shaft where
9 the thread meets the shaft, and there is a
10 criteria. If it's less than .03 millimeters, you
11 can grind that out, and as long as it isn't so
12 long or so deep, you can reuse those grips. If
13 it does -- if it's any deeper than that, you do
14 have to replace it.
15 And that bulletin -- I have all these
16 bulletins. They will be posted on the website.
17 They aren't right now, but they will be soon. So
18 if anybody needs to see these, you can get them
19 off our website.
20 And, then, finally, NAFLIC sent a few
21 bulletins on -- one was the Tea Cup that had
22 cracking around the radial arm pinholes right
23 where they attach in the center. A lot of
24 these -- like, the A.R.M. Rides, you know, your
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Page 34 1 Rock Star, Ali-baba, 1001 Nights -- have pinion
2 gears and slew rings. Those have been -- they've
3 been seeing some cracking in those.
4 And even the -- I'm not sure I've got
5 that on here, but the shoulder harness lock
6 assembly -- those bars that have the ratchets on
7 them -- they've been finding some cracks on
8 those. So some things to be looking out for when
9 you're doing your daily inspections and your
10 maintenance inspections.
11 And our non-destructive testing. If
12 there's ever any question about what rides
13 require an NDT, you can go to our website,
14 ridesafety.illinois.gov, and our NDT list which
15 we update yearly is on there, and it has not been
16 updated yet, but it will be updated before season
17 starts for sure. Probably within the month.
18 So any ride that you're -- most you
19 guys know what ride requires an NDT, and any new
20 bulletins you can find on the website. Any NDT
21 you can find on the website.
22 And, then, finally, just a few notes
23 for department policies. Applications must be
24 received 30 days prior to playing the first spot
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Page 35 1 of the year. We have an expedited inspection fee
2 that we charge if it's under 30 days.
3 There are some instances where you --
4 you know, there's no way that you could have --
5 you may have been asked to play a spot that
6 wasn't on your regular route. In situations like
7 that, we take that all into consideration, and if
8 that's the case, a lot of times that fee may be
9 waived. It's on a case-by-case basis, though.
10 Finally, owners and operators that
11 have Chance Zipper rides, if you remember the
12 K-bar bulletin from last year -- and I'm looking
13 around. I'm not sure there's anybody in here
14 that has a Zipper. Maybe Kent. Do you have a
15 Zipper? No. Okay.
16 Well, anyway, this bulletin talks
17 about the K-bars having a little bit of wear
18 where the pinholes are that hold the tubs on.
19 Well, they have to be looked at every year.
20 We have a compliance statement since it isn't
21 feasible to have the ride apart when we show up
22 to do the inspection. So if you do the
23 inspection, you should do it yearly, fill out
24 this compliance statement, and send it in with
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Page 36 1 your paperwork. I have copies. We can also put
2 a copy on the website. I've got them here
3 tonight if you need it and also got a copy of the
4 bulletin.
5 So, you know, we got a handful of
6 owners that have Zippers, and they went through
7 the process last year with no problem. So if
8 anybody needs it, I have.
9 And that is it.
10 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you,
11 Bill.
12 Are there any questions from the
13 board for Bill?
14 (No response.)
15 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: I understand
16 that you didn't have a whole lot of advance
17 notice that you were going to be doing this. So
18 we do appreciate your putting all this together
19 and presenting it tonight and please, everybody,
20 be patient as you're trying to --
21 (Applause.)
22 MR. SZERLETICH: Thank you.
23 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: -- trying to
24 get all our rides in there because he's kind of a
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Page 37 1 one-man band right now, and so any help that you
2 can give him in getting things in early, I'm sure
3 would be appreciated. It's a big job for him,
4 and I think, actually, all the inspectors deserve
5 a little accolade from all of us for helping keep
6 things inspected and keep our rides as safe as we
7 can make them. So I'd like to thank all of them
8 at this time.
9 (Applause.)
10 MR. SZERLETICH: I'd also like to say
11 that 17 non-mechanical incidents and 4 mechanical
12 incidents, I feel, is pretty good, and that's a
13 testament to you people that take care of your
14 rides and the inspectors that look at them.
15 We're all in this for the same reason, and I
16 think that's just a testament to everybody and
17 how much they care.
18 (Applause.)
19 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you,
20 Bill.
21 Yes, it does take everybody. Nobody
22 can do it on their own.
23 The next meeting locations and times
24 for 2016 is -- and I'm hoping that our director
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Page 38 1 brought those dates.
2 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Rosie.
3 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Is Rosie here?
4 There's Rosie. She's coming up to the
5 microphone.
6 July 19th is the next board meeting,
7 and it will be in Chicago in what? Afternoon
8 or -- okay.
9 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: Okay. I got a
10 shy executive assistant.
11 So it will be July 19th. It will be
12 at noon -- that's what she said; right?
13 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Afternoon
14 sometime.
15 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: The afternoon
16 sometime, time to be determined, and it will be
17 in Chicago.
18 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you.
19 And thank you, Rosie. We really
20 appreciate all that you do to keep us informed
21 and get the word out for all of us, and I know
22 that's a lot. I'm sure the director keeps you
23 very busy with things. So we appreciate what you
24 do for our board.
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Page 39 1 So July 19th in Chicago in the
2 afternoon. Did everybody get a chance to write
3 that down?
4 The next thing we'd like to do is do
5 a little discussion of indoor trampolines. I
6 noticed that one of the accidents was on a
7 trampoline, and nationwide these trampoline
8 courts have become very -- a very big deal.
9 They're just going up as fast as you can count
10 them, and the accident reports from them have
11 become a little bit overwhelming in many areas.
12 And I know we like to try to keep up
13 on this board so that our regulations keep up
14 with what's going on out there and to hopefully
15 prevent as many accidents as possible.
16 And I would -- I would like to
17 suggest -- ASTM, the F-24 Committee, actually did
18 do a new standard for trampolines -- the Standard
19 Practice for Design, Manufacture, Installation,
20 Operation, Maintenance, Inspection, and Major
21 Modification of Trampoline Courts -- because
22 there have been -- I don't know -- those of you
23 who are old enough may recall in the '60s
24 trampolines became a big thing, and there were a
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Page 40 1 lot of accidents, and trampolines kind of went by
2 the wayside, and now they're coming in to
3 popularity again.
4 So those in the F24 Committee thought
5 it would behoove everyone to help the trampoline
6 industry to be able to operate as safely as
7 possible. And so there is a new standard which
8 is F2970-15, and it is somewhat lengthy. It goes
9 into almost everything that you can imagine,
10 including padding around any kind of building,
11 structural members, lights, all that kind of
12 thing.
13 And I think I would like to see us
14 not only have Bill, perhaps, become a member of
15 ASTM but for the standard to be sent to all the
16 board members to read through and so we can
17 perhaps decide at our next meeting if we would
18 like to incorporate that into our regulations.
19 It's quite extensive, and we will --
20 I would like to say -- I think a lot of you may
21 be ASTM members who are out there. So you
22 probably receive the new -- this is the 2015 book
23 with all the regulations for our industry. And
24 so I invite all of you to read those over because
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Page 41 1 I think this will be a coming thing. Hopefully,
2 we can get it at least passed from our board
3 to -- and sent to -- does it go straight to JCAR
4 and then to our -- and then for a public meeting,
5 or does it go to public meeting -- public hearing
6 first?
7 MS. KIM: For the adoption of the
8 rules?
9 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Uh-huh.
10 MS. KIM: Any proposed rulemaking
11 that the department undertakes has to go through
12 a public hearing process.
13 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay.
14 MS. KIM: And that's after whether
15 the board -- the department, after consultation
16 with this board, decides to proceed with any
17 rulemaking.
18 Just to be clear, because you
19 recommend those rulemaking doesn't necessarily
20 mean the department will go forward with any
21 proposed rule.
22 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: So, anyway, I
23 guess we will try to get those out before the
24 next meeting. Hopefully, relatively soon,
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Page 42 1 because it's a lot to read and just -- you can't
2 just thumb through it in ten minutes and know
3 what it says. But okay.
4 We're about to -- so is there any
5 other new business to bring up?
6 MS. RHODES: I have a comment. I
7 don't know if that is new business.
8 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Comments are
9 always good.
10 MS. RHODES: Thank you.
11 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: There's a
12 microphone down there.
13 MS. RHODES: Thank you.
14 Now that we have the date for the
15 next meeting, though, I understand when the next
16 meeting is, but I did want to mention something,
17 for the benefit of those assembled, that Bill and
18 I already talked about and he's following up on
19 for me, and that is there was some kind of
20 communication glitch where I only found out about
21 this meeting yesterday.
22 And so my request is that that be
23 investigated, even if it turns out it was my
24 fault -- my understanding, it was an e-mail
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Page 43 1 glitch, though -- so that I can get proper
2 notification along with the rest of the board
3 going forward and be able to have full
4 participation in the meeting.
5 I will say, though, that I do
6 appreciate everyone's patience with me coming in
7 when I did. Hopefully, though, the issue with
8 whatever happened won't happen going forward.
9 I also wanted to make a request, if
10 it's allowed, to -- and I appreciate the
11 additional information on the fatality that
12 occurred in July. But if there is a way that
13 this body can receive more information on all of
14 the events that occurred last year so that we
15 can, for the same reason that I stated earlier,
16 see if there are some additional lessons learned
17 that we otherwise wouldn't be talking about in
18 here with the experts that might allow us to look
19 for mitigators going forward. That's a request I
20 would like to make.
21 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay.
22 MS. RHODES: And if that's a
23 subcommittee, I'd be happy to lead it, but that's
24 a request that I have.
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Page 44 1 Thanks.
2 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Well, Linda,
3 we're more than happy to be patient with you.
4 It's nice to have you here. I'm glad you could
5 get here this quickly.
6 As far as those -- all the accidents
7 went, I noticed quite a few of them were on
8 simulators.
9 And, Bill, maybe you can come back up
10 and let us know or give us an idea. When people
11 get hurt on simulators, are they -- what kind of
12 restraints do they have on? How -- what --
13 Come on, Margaret. Margaret is
14 evidently the expert on this or at least the
15 person who's had to deal with it more than anyone
16 else.
17 -- so that we can kind of understand
18 where shoulder injuries and hip injuries and
19 things like that come from on simulators because
20 it seems like that's kind of a high -- high
21 number.
22 COURT REPORTER: I need your name,
23 please.
24 MS. ROYER: My name is Margaret
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Page 45 1 Royer.
2 COURT REPORTER: Royer?
3 MS. ROYER: Royer, R-o-y-e-r.
4 COURT REPORTER: Thank you.
5 MS. ROYER: The accidents were on sky
6 diving simulators, and it was something that,
7 when they came to us and we were going to
8 regulate them, asking them what kind of
9 incidences they do have, they were very up front
10 with the biggest problem they have are people
11 hurting their shoulders, dislocating their
12 shoulders.
13 They -- and when we got the first
14 reports, Ryan actually went out and did the
15 initial investigations and everything -- and I
16 have also been out myself -- to see that they
17 have quite a bit of signage. Very much they make
18 people aware of the situation and that they
19 absolutely should not do this activity if they
20 have shoulder issues and why they shouldn't.
21 The nature of when you do the
22 simulator is your body blocks most of the air,
23 and that's how you float. Your arms and legs
24 actually go quite far behind you; and, literally,
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Page 46 1 if you have a shoulder problem or have had
2 previous dislocation, things like that, you can
3 hurt your shoulder, and they are -- like I said,
4 we went out, and we made sure that they had the
5 signage and letting people know.
6 It comes down to a situation of that
7 you can only educate them so much, and then
8 they're going to do what they want to do, and
9 that's literally what all of these have been --
10 is a shoulder problem from -- from the way that
11 the ride actually works.
12 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: So if you can
13 explain a little bit more. It's upward-flowing
14 air holding someone up there?
15 MS. ROYER: Yes. So it's -- they
16 actually have fans that are on top of the
17 building that actually suck the air in and blow
18 it down and back up through a tube that has a
19 mesh floor, and depending on your size and weight
20 and things, it's actually geared towards the
21 person to how much air flow there has to be. And
22 so, if you're a bigger person, there's more air
23 flow.
24 And so you have to think about the
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Page 47 1 fact that your arms and legs don't weigh nearly
2 as much as the trunk of your body does. So
3 they're really out there flailing and back; and,
4 you know, you can pretty much Google, you know,
5 a video of it or whatever and see the position
6 that your body gets in. And when you go into
7 these facilities, you see -- you know, they show
8 you on the screens and everything videos of what
9 it's like, what's going to happen, and
10 everything. So they do a good job of making
11 people aware of the situation; so --
12 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay. Thank
13 you.
14 MS. ROYER: Yep.
15 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Hopefully,
16 we're all about prevention; so I don't know how
17 much farther we can go if the people are being
18 warned.
19 Are there any other comments by the
20 board? Questions?
21 (No response.)
22 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Well, then,
23 let's open it up for public comments and
24 questions. Please come up. I think Rosie's got
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Page 48 1 a microphone, and if you'd like to come up to
2 this podium up here, Rosie can get the microphone
3 to you.
4 And please give your name so our kind
5 note-taker can keep track of what's going on.
6 No questions or comments?
7 MS. VAUGHN: Margaret Vaughn with the
8 OABA as well as the Illinois Association of
9 Agricultural Fairs.
10 The language for the rider
11 responsibility -- did you get it from another of
12 state or what was the genesis?
13 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Well, it began
14 from another state. It was already state law
15 there. This is, in fact, state law in this or
16 verbiage very much like it in a number of other
17 states.
18 MS. VAUGHN: Okay. Thank you.
19 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: We have a quiet
20 group tonight.
21 MS. SALERNO: Hello. Juanita Salerno
22 from All Around Amusement.
23 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: You need to say
24 that a little slower.
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Page 49 1 MS. SALERNO: Juanita,
2 J-u-a-n-i-t-a, Salerno, S-a-l-e-r-n-o. All
3 Around Amusement.
4 Just in regards to the Riders
5 Responsibility Act where you say the language
6 needs -- or it needs to be posted in a language,
7 are we just speaking English? I think that
8 should be spelled out in there -- what language
9 we're referring to. I know we're an
10 English-speaking country, but there are others;
11 so -- so we're in compliance if this comes
12 aboard.
13 And then the other item I think
14 should be addressed in that is persons reaching
15 over and out of the car of the ride, the top of a
16 ride -- telling them not to reach out or persons
17 standing on the outside reaching in with any
18 object or grabbing anything, a stationary object.
19 I had an incident last year where,
20 you know, we're always telling our operators keep
21 your -- you know, tell the parents to keep their
22 hands on their side of the fence and the
23 children's hands inside their ride, and parents
24 are constantly reaching over with inflates or
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Page 50 1 their hands, and one person told me that he would
2 sit in a car -- a moving vehicle and reach out
3 and grab a stationary object. And, you know, I
4 don't know why we need to tell people that, but I
5 think that should be addressed as well.
6 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Okay.
7 MS. SALERNO: Thank you.
8 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you.
9 Anybody else?
10 I think that's a good idea. You're
11 the ones who know what bad things have happened
12 and especially if they've caused accidents, and
13 so if we can address those, I think this is the
14 place, certainly, that we want to do it.
15 MR. KNIGHT: My name is Doug Knight
16 with Knight's Action Park, Springfield.
17 I just want to thank the inspectors
18 because, you know, we're all seeking the same
19 goal, to be save. That is my company's number
20 one goal as well as, I'm sure, everybody in this
21 room, and I'm glad to see that we're doing
22 something about rider responsibility because
23 it -- you know, let's face it. We have go-carts
24 at our facility, and I'm turning control of the
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2 COURT REPORTER: I'm sorry. You're
3 turning what?
4 MR. KNIGHT: -- turning the control
5 of the ride over to our guests; and, you know --
6 or somebody can rock the seat in the ferris wheel
7 or, you know, undo a safety device or something
8 like that. I mean, you know, we try to get on
9 top of that stuff and correct them as quickly as
10 you can, but a lot of times people are out, you
11 know, wanting to show off with their friends or
12 let their ego get in the way of things and not
13 aware of the harm they can cause other people.
14 And as a person who is in the
15 business of building memories, creating memories
16 for families in the State of Illinois and
17 visitors to the State of Illinois, it's important
18 for me to be a hundred percent safe, and I think
19 by adding something like this to the code will
20 benefit everybody.
21 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you.
22 (Applause.)
23 MR. SCHOENDIEST: Hi. My name is
24 Andy Schoendienst with Luehrs Ideal Rides.
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Page 52 1 COURT REPORTER: Andy -- last name?
2 MR. SCHOENDIENST: Want me to spell
3 it? A-n-d-y. Schoendienst,
4 S-c-h-o-e-n-d-i-e-n-s-t. The company is Luehrs,
5 L-u-e-h-r-s, Ideal Rides.
6 COURT REPORTER: Thank you.
7 MR. SCHOENDIENST: Just wanted to
8 bring up a point about the Rider Responsibility
9 Act.
10 I think the reasoning here -- and
11 most people look at it as it's going to be an
12 advantage possibly for the ride operator and so
13 forth from a legal standpoint. And I think, more
14 than anything, that's not really what we're
15 looking for. I understand that that's where it
16 comes down to, but more than anything, we want to
17 be able to tell the patron -- we want them to be
18 aware that it is also their responsibility, that
19 we want them to strive more for safety. You
20 understand what I'm saying? Not just -- not just
21 from a legal standpoint because we all know, when
22 it comes down, you know, to brass tacks, in court
23 it's another ball game. But we want the patrons
24 to know that it also is part of their job. They
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Page 53 1 can't feel that they're in a plastic -- or in a
2 bubble, they cannot get hurt. We want them to be
3 there; so --
4 That's all I want to say. Thank you
5 very much.
6 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Thank you,
7 Andy.
8 Anybody else?
9 (No response.)
10 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Quiet group
11 here tonight.
12 Okay. I would -- I would like to
13 thank everybody for coming.
14 Director, do you have anything else
15 that you wanted to add?
16 DIRECTOR CHAVIANO: No. Thank you.
17 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Well, then, I
18 would entertain a motion to adjourn.
19 MR. SPARKS: I make that motion.
20 I'll make the motion.
21 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Do I hear a
22 second?
23 MR. PERZEE: I would second.
24 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: All those in
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2 (Voice vote taken.)
3 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Those opposed?
4 (No response.)
5 CHAIRWOMAN SULLIVAN: Abstentions?
6 (No response.)
7 CHAIRWOMAN: We are adjourned.
8 Thank you very much, everyone.
9 (Meeting adjourned at 5:16 P.M.)
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5 I, ROBIN A. ENSTROM, a Registered
6 Professional Reporter and Certified Shorthand
7 Reporter within and for the State of Illinois, do
8 hereby certify that the foregoing proceedings
9 were taken by me to the best of my ability and
10 thereafter reduced to typewriting under my
11 direction; that I am neither counsel for, related
12 to, nor employed by any of the parties to the
13 action in which these proceedings were taken; and
14 further that I am not a relative or employee of
15 any attorney or counsel employed by the parties
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