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Hearing National Defense Authorization Act For i [H.A.S.C. No. 112–100] HEARING ON NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND OVERSIGHT OF PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED PROGRAMS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION FULL COMMITTEE HEARING ON BUDGET REQUEST FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HEARING HELD FEBRUARY 15, 2012 U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 73–426 WASHINGTON : 2012 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, http://bookstore.gpo.gov. For more information, contact the GPO Customer Contact Center, U.S. Government Printing Office. Phone 202–512–1800, or 866–512–1800 (toll-free). E-mail, [email protected]. HOUSE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS HOWARD P. ‘‘BUCK’’ MCKEON, California, Chairman ROSCOE G. BARTLETT, Maryland ADAM SMITH, Washington MAC THORNBERRY, Texas SILVESTRE REYES, Texas WALTER B. JONES, North Carolina LORETTA SANCHEZ, California W. TODD AKIN, Missouri MIKE MCINTYRE, North Carolina J. RANDY FORBES, Virginia ROBERT A. BRADY, Pennsylvania JEFF MILLER, Florida ROBERT ANDREWS, New Jersey JOE WILSON, South Carolina SUSAN A. DAVIS, California FRANK A. LOBIONDO, New Jersey JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island MICHAEL TURNER, Ohio RICK LARSEN, Washington JOHN KLINE, Minnesota JIM COOPER, Tennessee MIKE ROGERS, Alabama MADELEINE Z. BORDALLO, Guam TRENT FRANKS, Arizona JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut BILL SHUSTER, Pennsylvania DAVE LOEBSACK, Iowa K. MICHAEL CONAWAY, Texas NIKI TSONGAS, Massachusetts DOUG LAMBORN, Colorado CHELLIE PINGREE, Maine ROB WITTMAN, Virginia LARRY KISSELL, North Carolina DUNCAN HUNTER, California MARTIN HEINRICH, New Mexico JOHN C. FLEMING, M.D., Louisiana BILL OWENS, New York MIKE COFFMAN, Colorado JOHN R. GARAMENDI, California TOM ROONEY, Florida MARK S. CRITZ, Pennsylvania TODD RUSSELL PLATTS, Pennsylvania TIM RYAN, Ohio SCOTT RIGELL, Virginia C.A. DUTCH RUPPERSBERGER, Maryland CHRIS GIBSON, New York HANK JOHNSON, Georgia VICKY HARTZLER, Missouri BETTY SUTTON, Ohio JOE HECK, Nevada COLLEEN HANABUSA, Hawaii BOBBY SCHILLING, Illinois KATHLEEN C. HOCHUL, New York JON RUNYAN, New Jersey AUSTIN SCOTT, Georgia TIM GRIFFIN, Arkansas STEVEN PALAZZO, Mississippi ALLEN B. WEST, Florida MARTHA ROBY, Alabama MO BROOKS, Alabama TODD YOUNG, Indiana ROBERT L. SIMMONS II, Staff Director JENNESS SIMLER, Professional Staff Member MICHAEL CASEY, Professional Staff Member LAUREN HAUHN, Research Assistant (II) C O N T E N T S CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF HEARINGS 2012 Page HEARING: Wednesday, February 15, 2012, Fiscal Year 2013 National Defense Authoriza- tion Budget Request from the Department of Defense ..................................... 1 APPENDIX: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 .............................................................................. 59 WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2012 FISCAL YEAR 2013 NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BUDGET REQUEST FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE STATEMENTS PRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS McKeon, Hon. Howard P. ‘‘Buck,’’ a Representative from California, Chair- man, Committee on Armed Services .................................................................. 1 Smith, Hon. Adam, a Representative from Washington, Ranking Member, Committee on Armed Services ............................................................................ 2 WITNESSES Dempsey, GEN Martin E., USA, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff ...................... 11 Panetta, Hon. Leon E., Secretary of Defense ........................................................ 5 APPENDIX PREPARED STATEMENTS: Dempsey, GEN Martin E. ................................................................................ 76 McKeon, Hon. Howard P. ‘‘Buck’’ .................................................................... 63 Panetta, Hon. Leon E. ...................................................................................... 66 Smith, Hon. Adam ............................................................................................ 65 DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED FOR THE RECORD: Letter to Chairman McKeon from Secretary Panetta, Dated November 2, 2011 (Submitted by Mr. Turner) ............................................................. 91 Letter to Secretary Panetta from Chairman McKeon and Mr. Turner, Dated September 13, 2011 (Submitted by Mr. Turner) ............................. 89 Memorandum of Agreement between the Department of Defense and the Department of Energy (Submitted by Mr. Turner) ............................. 92 WITNESS RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS ASKED DURING THE HEARING: Mr. Bartlett ....................................................................................................... 99 Ms. Bordallo ...................................................................................................... 100 Mr. Hunter ........................................................................................................ 101 Mr. Johnson ...................................................................................................... 101 Mr. Kline ........................................................................................................... 100 Mr. Turner ........................................................................................................ 99 Mr. Wilson ......................................................................................................... 99 Mr. Wittman ..................................................................................................... 101 (III) IV Page QUESTIONS SUBMITTED BY MEMBERS POST HEARING: Ms. Bordallo ...................................................................................................... 107 Mr. Conaway ..................................................................................................... 116 Mr. Heinrich ..................................................................................................... 120 Mr. Langevin ..................................................................................................... 106 Mr. Loebsack ..................................................................................................... 115 Mr. Owens ......................................................................................................... 121 Mrs. Roby .......................................................................................................... 126 Mr. Ruppersberger ........................................................................................... 122 Mr. Schilling ..................................................................................................... 124 Mr. Scott ............................................................................................................ 126 Mr. Smith .......................................................................................................... 105 Mr. Turner ........................................................................................................ 107 Mr. Wilson ......................................................................................................... 105 Mr. Wittman ..................................................................................................... 118 FISCAL YEAR 2013 NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZA- TION BUDGET REQUEST FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES, Washington, DC, Wednesday, February 15, 2012. The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:05 a.m. in room 2118, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Howard P. ‘‘Buck’’ McKeon (chairman of the committee) presiding. OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HOWARD P. ‘‘BUCK’’ MCKEON, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CALIFORNIA, CHAIRMAN, COM- MITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES The CHAIRMAN. The hearing will come to order. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today as we consider the President’s fiscal year 2013 budget re- quest for the Department of Defense. To put this budget in context, it is critical to examine the strategy that has informed its submis- sion. At the outset, I want our witnesses to know that I appreciate the hard work that went into the development of the strategy. It is no small effort to completely revise a strategy 1 year after the submis- sion of the Quadrennial Defense Review and less than 3 months after the submission of a budget request. However, I do have serious concerns about the trajectory that this new strategy puts us on. Although this strategy is framed as making the military more nimble and flexible, it is not clear how slashing the Armed Forces by over 100,000 during a time of war, shedding force structure and postponing the modernization makes that so. The President must understand that the world has always had and will always have a leader. As America steps back, someone else will step forward. We have now heard multiple times that the strategy drove the budget and not the other way around. I suppose this starts with the President’s call to slash at least $400 billion from defense last April in advance of any strategic review. An honest and valid strat- egy for national defense can’t be founded on the premise that we must do more with less or even less with less. Rather, you proceed from a clear articulation of the full scope of the threats you face and the commitments you have. You then resource the strategy re- quired to defeat those threats decisively. One does not mask insuf- ficient resources with a strategy founded on hope. Furthermore, the President’s new defense strategy ‘‘supports the national security imperative of deficit reduction through a lower level
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