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Legislative Assembly of Manitoba Standing Committee on Industrial First Session- Thirty-Seventh Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba Standing Committee on Industrial Relations Chairperson Mr. Daryl Reid Constituency of Transcona Vol. L No. 3 - 6:30 p.m., Monday, August 14, 2000 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Seventh Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve. Hon. Thompson N.D.P. ASPER, Linda Riel N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky, Hon. Inkster N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew, Hon. Brandon East N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUAY, Louise Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FILMON, Gary Tuxedo P.C. FRIESEN, Jean, Hon. Wolseley N.D.P. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold Minnedosa P.C. HEL WER, Edward Girnli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKI. Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU. Marcel St. Norbert P.C. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn, Hon. Minto N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Torn Interlake N.D.P. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PENNER, Jim Steinbach PC. PITURA, Frank Morris P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren Lac du Bonnet P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack Southdale P.C. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Carman P.C. RONDEAU, Jim Assiniboia N.D.P. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Rossrnere N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. SMITH, Joy Fort Garry P.C. SMITH, Scott Brandon West N.D.P. STEFANSON, Eric Kirkfield Park P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. - TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. WOWCHUK. Rosann. Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 5 LE GISLATI VE ASSEMBL Y OF MANITOBA THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS Monday, August 14, 2000 TIME - 6:30 p.m. Mr. Gordon Peters, CANDO Contracting Ms. Joyce Reynolds, Senior Director, LOCATION - Winnipeg, Manitoba Government Affairs, Canadian Restaurant and Food Services Association CHAIRPERSON Mr. Daryl Reid Ms. Jan Speelman, President, Manitoba (Transcona ) Teachers' Society Mr. Roy Eyjolfson, Seagram Company VI CE -CHAIRPERSON - Mr. Scott Smith Limited (Brandon West ) Ms. Heather Ostop, Private Citizen Mr. Peter Woolford, Retail Council of ATTENDANCE - 11- QU ORUM - 6 Canada and Retail Merchants Association of Manitoba Members of the Committee present: Mr. Robert Desjarlais, United Steel Workers Union Local 6166 Hon. Ms. Barrett, Hon. Ms. Mihychuk, Hon. Mr. Sidney Green, Private Citizen Mr. Robinson Ms. Irene Merie, Chair of Board, Winnipeg Messrs. Enns, Loewen, Nevakshonoff, Reid, Chamber of Commerce Rondeau, Schuler, Smith, Mrs. Smith Mr. Murray Sigler, Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce APPEARING: Mr. Rob Hilliard, Manitoba Federation of Labour Hon. Jon Gerrard, MLA for River Heights Mr. Jim Carr, Business Council of Manitoba Mr. Darren Praznik, MLA for Lac du Ms. Candace Bishoff, Chairperson, Bonnet ManitobaEmp loyers Council Mr. Larry Maguire, MLA for Arthur-Virden Mr. Dan Overall, Manitoba Chambers of Mr. Marcel Laurendeau, MLA for St. Commerce Norbert Mr. Edward Huebert, Mining Association of Manitoba WITNESSES: Ms. Brenda Andre, Perkins Family Restaurants Bill 18-The Labour Relations Amend ­ Mr. Terry Cooper, Manitoba Association of ment Act School Trustees Mr. Roger Cameron, Railway Association of Mr. Jim Baker, President and Chief Canada Executive Officer, Manitoba Hotel Mr. Gordon Peters, CANDO Contracting Association Mr. Doug Olshewski, Canadian Auto Workers WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS: Ms. Wendy Sol, Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union Canada Mr. AI Cerilli, President, Manitoba Bill 44-The Labour Relations Amend ­ Federation ofUnion Retirees ment Act (2) Mr. Rob Hilliard, Manitoba Federation of Labour Mr. Bryan Walton, Vice-President, Western Region, Canadian Council of Grocery Bill 44-The Labour Relations Amend ­ Distributors ment Act (2) 6 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA August 14, 2000 Ms. Shirley Canty, Manitoba Motor Dealers in order from registry: Sidney Green. Roger has Association been possibly changed to Bill 44. This is dealing with Bill 18. Second, we have Roger Cameron from the Railway Association of Canada; Gord MATTERS UNDER DISCUSSION: Peters, Cando Contracting; Karen Naylor, Canadian Autoworkers Union; Wendy Sol, Bill 18-The Labour Relations Amendment Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Act Union Canada; AI Cerilli, Manitoba Federation of Union Retirees; and Rob Hilliard, Manitoba Bill 44-The Labour Relations Amendment Federation of Labour. Act (2) * (18:40) Mr. Chairperson: Good evening, ladies and Those are the persons who are registered to gentlemen. Will the Standing Committee on speak on Bill 18. For Bill 44, we have a number Industrial Relations please come to order. of presenters that are registered here this evening. I will read them. We have Irene Merie, The NDP caucus chair, the PC caucus chair Rob Hilliard, Jim Carr, Candace Bishoff, Dan and the Honourable Member for River Heights Overall, Paul Moist, Edward Huebert, Joyce (Mr. Gerrard) were advised by letter, dated Reynolds, Doug Stephen, Brenda Andre, Terry August I 0, 2000, by the Clerk of the Legislative Cooper or Craig Wallis, Dan Kelly, Jim Baker, Assembly, that staff from Information Services Peter Wightman, Bernard Christophe, Colin may be in attendance in order to videotape parts Robinson, Bruce Buckley, Brian Etkin, Grant of this meeting for inclusion in the A Day in the Ogonowski, Ron Hambly or Alfred Schlieer, Jan Life of the House video. As you will notice, Speelman, George Floresco or John Friesen, Information Services is in attendance this Cindy McCallum or David Condon, Gord Peters, evening to videotape parts of this committee Brian Short, George Fraser, Jonas Sammons, meeting. Maureen Hancharyk, James Hogaboam, Kenneth Emberley, Darlene Dziewit, Julie Sheeska, This evening the Committee will be Edward Zink, Donna Favell, Joy Ducharme, considering the fo llowing bills: Bill 18, The Alice Ennis, Heather Ostop, Linda Fulmore, Labour Relations Amendment Act; Bill 44, The Kelly Gaspur, Colin Trigwell, Larry Mcintosh, Labour Relations Amendment Act (2). Graham Starmer, Roy Eyjolfson, Chris Christensen, Peter Woolford, Gerry Roxas, Dale We have presenters who have registered to Paterson, Jerry Woods, George Bergen, Maria make a public presentation on each of these bills. Soares, Neal Curry, Bob Dolyniuk, Bob It is the custom to hear public presentations Stephens, Ilene Lecker, Lydia Kubrakovich, before consideration of bills. Is it the will of the Darrell Rankin, Jim Murray, Todd Scarth, John Committee to hear public presentations first? Mann, Rod Giesbrecht, Buffy Burrell, Albert [A greed] Cerilli, Robert Desjarlais, Richard Chale, David Martin, Ron Teeple, Peter Olfert, Randy Porter In what order does the Committee wish to and Grant Mitchell. Those are the names we hear the presentations? have listed for Bill 44. We also have one additional name that has just been brought to our Mr. Scott Smith (Brandon West ): I would attention, Robert Ziegler. Those are the persons suggest 18 and then 44. that are registered to speak to Bill 44 this evening. Mr. Chairperson: Is there agreement? [A greed} Thank you. We will hear Bill 18 first. I wish to draw to the attention of the members of the Committee an oversight that has I will read the names of the persons who occurred with respect to one of the presenters, have registered to make public presentations this Mr. Sidney Green, who had been registered to - evening fr om a list that we have. I will read them present on Bill 18. Is it the will of the Committee August 14, 2000 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 7 to allow Mr. Green to be the first presenter on but have had their names called? Shall these Bill 44, which was, I believe, his original names be dropped to the bottom of the list? Shall preference, first in-town presenter? the names be dropped from the list after being called twice? Mr. Marcel Laurendeau (St. Norbert): Mr. Chair, just to infonn the Committee that we have Mr. Laurendeau: As long as they are only gone through when Mr. Green registered, and dropped the one time today, and as the that is where it would place him on the list. Committee is being called tomorrow, they can be read the second time tomorrow morning or Mr. Chairperson: That is correct. tomorrow evening. Mr. Laurendeau: I have one other issue on Hon. Becky Barrett (Minister of Labour): committee business, Mr. Chair. Because we will would suggest that they be read a firsttime this be more than likely dealing with out-of-town evening and then another time tomorrow presenters, can we clarify one thing: What an morning but not be dropped from the list unless out-of-town presenter is? I do believe that we they have been read for tomorrow evening had to do this last year because we had some because there will be people who may be able to people registering with their cottages out of town make it in the evening who could not make it in so they could get on the list first. So I would ask the morning. if anybody has used their cottage as their registration that they be dropped to the bottom of Mr.
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