Winchester Local Children S Partnership

Winchester Local Children’s Partnership

Notes from Meeting held on 21 September 2011 Romsey Room, EII Court HCC Offices, Winchester

Attendees: Louise Chapman – Twyford St Mary CE Primary School Jean Humphrey – Wessex Youth Offending Team Lorraine Ronan – Winchester City Council Julie Amies – Senior Sports Officer, HCC (Chair) Paul Williams – Winchester Area Community Action Sally Humphries – 14 to 19 Consortium Director Paul Nicholson – The Westgate School Debra Crook – Behaviour Support Team Leader, Childrens Services David Harvey – Area Strategic Manager (Alt Ed), Childrens Services Helen Dove – Service Manager, Sussex Partnership NHS Foundation Trust Clare Beswick – Micheldever CE Primary School

Apologies: Matthew Haynes, Debbie Dean, Neil Hopkins, Sam Severe, Lin Ferguson

Action 1. JA Welcomed the group.

2. Minutes of last meeting and matters arsing Minutes of last meeting agreed. Matters arising: Agreed Julie Amies and Jane Samsome have met with Helen Dove and the CAMHS team on 20 July 2011. Children’s centres – tender might be delayed now until October. Funding Applications – Podium Project by Peter Symonds progressing. Looking to work with primary schools – Cherelle Parnell will provide an update at our next meeting. Delivery Plan – has been updated and loaded onto the Children’s Services website. There is a need to keep it up to date.

3. Overview of Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (CAMHS) JA gave an overview of the background to this item. Mental health issues of young people is a priority for the Partnership but information on available services was absent. JA and JS met with Helen Dove of CAMHS and Caroline Hobbs from Children’s Services. It transpired that a comprehensive excel document exists of all the

1 different services in Hampshire (‘Services Supporting Children and Young People with Emotional, Social and Mental Health Needs (Western Hampshire). This document will need updating as some of the information is very out of date.

Helen Dove then gave an update on the re-organisation of CAMHS. Prior to 1st April, it was offered by 5 different providers. Now Hampshire will come under one provider – Sussex Health Trust.

There will be lots of change and lots of work to do. The first consultation on management and locality is just being finalised. Since these changes have happened, Children’s Services boundaries have also changed.

North – Basingstoke, Aldershot, Andover and Test Valley West – Winchester, Eastleigh, Eastleigh Southern Parishes South East – Havant, Fareham, Gosport

At the end of October the second consultation on equality and skills will take place.

There will be a change in referral format and the referral criteria will also change (forms will be developed).

Helen offered to forward a copy of the new document to everyone Helen once it has been approved. Dove

JA commented that perhaps it would be good to link the referral process to the above mentioned document. However, one size does not necessarily fit all. It is just as important to have details of the relevant Service Manager contact, if in doubt.

It was felt that there was a need for practical support for Head Teachers and teachers dealing with children while the referral was taking place to ensure that it is a good process for all involved, especially the child.

Helen felt that it would be good to deliver awareness training. There Debra is Emotional First Aid training available for School staff dealing with Crook children with emotional problems. Debra Crook volunteered to find out more details.

The following was agreed:

1) A need for awareness of services that are available out there – who to go to etc. 2) Training needed for staff dealing with children on a day to day basis

2 3) Enough provision to deal with situations at varying degrees.

4. Provision for children and young people with emotional, social and mental health needs JA gave out a document for ‘Services Supporting Children and Young People with Emotional, Social and Mental Health Needs (Western Hampshire)’. The information was originally provided for GP’s and put together by Karen Clarke in corporate communications. Jean Humphrey asked if this document could be emailed out to Julie everyone in the group. Amies

It was felt that most of the LCP’s are not aware of the document for Julie ‘Services Supporting Children and Young People with Emotional, Amies Social and Mental Health Needs (Western Hampshire)’ and Julie will raise awareness amongst other LCP’s.

There are many services listed in the document, but are their details up to date? There may be a need to keep all contacts in the document as some children live in a different area to where they go to school and therefore will need to access support in more than one location.

A lot of the details were aimed at Secondary School age and above. It was felt that there would be a need to include details of services below that age group given the increase in exclusions at Primary Schools.

It was suggested that a link to this document be put on the schools websites, then parents will have access to the main document for information. As public information is contained within the document, then there shouldn’t be a problem.

Post meeting – JA rasied this at the Children’s Trust Board. Steve Crocker will ask CAHMS to update the document and for it to be sent to all LCP’s.

There is also the EXIT directory, which is a more public facing document through extended services.

In addition, there is a presentation on 5th October 2011in Ashburton Julie Hall to advise everyone about the Tier 3 CAMHS model, delivered by Amies the Strategy & Commissioning Team. Julie Amies will circulate the details of the meeting to everyone.

The question was asked, that as an LCP, do we want to commission Helen training. It was felt that the Emotional First Aid course would be a Dove good idea for school staff. Helen Dove will provide details of the cost and course content.

3 Discussion then took place about the point at which items are Julie escalated to the Health and Wellbeing Board and around the links Amies with the Clinical Commissioning Groups. JA to raise at the Children’s Trust Board.

Post meeting – JA raised at the Children’s Trust Board. The clinical commissioner advised that LCP’s should raise needs at their local Clinical Commissioning Group and in the Joint needs strategic assessment.

A decision was made to re-visit all the above at either the January or Helen March meeting once we know the full set of CAMHS services. Helen Dove offered to attend to give an update.

5. Therapeutic Early Intervention Support for Primary Age Pupils in the Winchester District Debra Crook, Louise Chapman and Julie Amies met to work up some ideas. Looking towards extending intervention support in Primary Schools. DC had had a therapist in Basingstoke who worked with the child, the family and the school. But there is no therapist available in Winchester. This service worked well in Basingstoke. Evaluations were very positive and successful. The benefit to the school is good as interfacing with teachers and other agencies, as well as the child and the parents. All very calming. In some cases, it negated the need for CAMHS. If this was in place, then it may be possible to stop the flow of problems into the secondary schools as the problems are caught and supported early.

Given that the number of exclusions in primary schools is rising and schools are finding it difficult to meet the needs of some vulnerable young children with existing resources, a project to develop a resource to support the pupils, their families and the staff in school will be developed.

Helen Dove talked about ‘Mindfulness’ and its use in schools – it uses Buddhist and meditating techniques and has been used with children as young as 5 years. It builds on self-coping techniques.

It was agreed to move this forward by setting up a task and finish group and will include Louise Chapman, Debra Crook and Claire Beswick. A SENCO would also be helpful and colleagues will help identify someone.

The task and finish group will:  Look at the appropriate type of help  Consider sustainability

4  Evaluate the project Debra It is hoped to start the project in January 2012. Crook

JA to circulate the Youth Crime Prevention Quarterly Report Julie Amies Coincidentally, Eastleigh are using a Play Therapist in the Eastleigh/Winchester area, which appears to be successful, using the CAMHS playroom. No-one had any contact details but could be through InTouch and Chris Parsons.

Post meeting – JA has discussed with Jon Le Fevre, Headteacher at Netley Abbey Infant School who is using a combination of a play and drama therapist with excellent results. The T and F group can use this practice when considering their project.

6. Integrated Youth Services Statement of Intent PW recapped on the process so far.

Every LCP had to put in a Statement of Intent, which included a budget plan and how the money would be spent. Winchester LCP budget will be £73,773 for the financial year 11/12.

A meeting was arranged to discuss priorities with 12 organisations across the spectrum of the voluntary sector. It helped to consolidate priorities and brought together 75 – 80% of the voluntary organisations. Priorities were mental health counselling and support services, NEETS and LGBs.

Each partnership will have its own priorities – unsure at present how the commissioning will work, as Hampshire holds the budget. Waiting for feedback on the process. It will probably be one year funding initially and the voluntary sector will be able to pitch for ‘contracts’. There are issues over the commitment only being for 1 year, as 1 year is not enough time to get a project off the ground, but it does give the opportunity to fill gaps in provision.

A further update can be provided at the next meeting when more information should be known.

Post meeting – JA has received the ‘lots’ of services that will be put out to the voluntary sector for checking and signing off. This had to be done in less that 4 days, an indication to the very tight timescales surrounding this work.

7. GirlsCan Sally Humphries explained what GirlsCan was about. It is an organisation that promotes achievement of 14+ girls, who are

5 struggling. Information went out to schools and colleges over the summer. The scheme received £10K from Hampshire so wanted to set up a pilot to help girls with self-esteem problems in the age group 14 – 19 years. If it is successful, then plan is to extend it to primary school age.

Post meeting – PW has made some furher enquireies with the VS. At the last WYPAG meeting you spoke about a programme of activities designed for girls that I think you were planning with Streetreach? Do you think that this is something that could be scaled up and rolled out to other areas? Winchester 14-19 Partnership is looking to develop such a programme with http://www.girlscan.co.uk/ which is part of http://www.ignite-leadership.org/ - I think it would be even better if we could do something locally and keep the funding and resources to build capacity in the District.

8. Progress for Success update Hampshire gave money to work with NEETS. The funding came after the schools had left for the summer, at short notice and with a tight turnaround, which was difficult.

A summer programme was put together, working with the YMCA and included counselling, CV writing and work based workshops. It was hoped to draw between 40 and 50 people but only 8 attended the launch.

Feedback from the schools was that the lack of attendance was due to young people having already sorted out placements for September.

The YMCA are working to roll out successions to this pilot. They are trying to find out who the NEETS are in the area in order to target them. This group are at greater risk this year as Connexions is closing and locating NEETS might be much more challenging as a result.

It was felt that the summer was not the right time of year for contacting this group of young people, as it really needs to be now. The problem is funding and trying to find pots of money to tap into. It was also felt that it was important to capture post 16 year olds who drop out in October or January (1 term or 2 terms at college), rather than post year 11.

Another problem is evidencing that there is a need. We know there are NEETS but our area has 0% NEETS, so it would appear that our 3 secondary schools are already buying in solutions (however, mostly provided by Connexions, which will disappear).

6 9. AOB Lorraine Ronan – it would be really helpful if changes in staff in different organisations could be advised to the group, but it was felt that it would be more helpful to circulate new structures as they are issued.

David Harvey- wont be able to attend every meeting, but very supportive of the work the group is doing. As DC works in his team, then she will be able to feedback.

10. Dates of future meetings Tuesday 22 November 2011 a.m. at Westgate School Thursday 26 January 2012 a.m. Tuesday 6 March 2012 a.m. Wednesday 9 May 2012 a.m. Tuesday 3 July 2012 a.m.

Venues TBC – any offers of locations to be forwarded to JA