Chair Convened Meeting at 14:05 Eastern US Time and Took the Minutes

February 2005 doc.: IEEE 802.11-05/0135r0

IEEE P802.11 Wireless LANs

February 23, 2005, TGs Telecon Minutes

Date: 2005-03-24

Author(s): Name Company Address Phone email 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA Donald E. Eastlake 3rd Motorola +1-508-786-7554 Donald.Eastlake@ 01752 USA motorola.com

Abstract Minutes and participants list for a teleconference of the IEEE 802.11 TGs held on February 23rd, 2005, hosted by TGs Chairman Donald Eastlake 3rd of Motorola Laboratories.

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Minutes

Chair convened meeting at 14:05 Eastern US Time and took the minutes.

The chair reviewed the proposed Agenda for this teleconference: 1. Mailing list issues. 2. Proposal Intents. 3. The Agenda for the March TGs Meeting.

There being no objections or suggested changes, the teleconference proceeded with the above agenda. The chair remarked that the call will probably not be very long.

1. Mailing list issues: The chair mentioned that he had posted the original announcement of this teleconference to the main 802.11 reflector and planned to post the reminder to the TGs reflector. However, because there was an error in the call time given in the original announcement, he posted the reminder to the WG list also. However, it appears that some people, for reasons that are unclear, are on the TGs reflector but not the 802.11 reflector and so saw neither announcement. The 802.11 policy is that new 802.11 members are added to all the reflectors and when a new TG is created, all 802.11 members are added to its reflector. People can unsubscribe/resubscribe themselves as they choose.

The chair noted that he had no ability to subscribe/unsubscribe anyone but himself. 802.11 Vice-Chair Harry Worstell generally handles mailing list problems.

Question from a call participant: Can we have a rule that everyone in TGs has to be on both the 802.11 and TGs reflectors:

Chair: There is no separate TGs membership, only 802.11 membership, so it is not clear what that would mean. 802.11 members are free under the current rules to subscribe to as many or as few of the 802.11 and subsidiary TG reflectors as they wish.

2. Proposal Intents: The chair announced that 4 intents to propose have been received so far of which two have indicated a desire to make a brief presentation at the March meeting and if there were no objections, he would submit and periodically update an Excel document listing the intents received. There were no objections. [This has now been done. See 11-05/112.]

The chair indicated that his personal opinion was that 15 to 20 intents will be received with perhaps around 6 wanting to make a brief preliminary presentation at the March meeting. It is simple to file intent.

Question for a call participant: How many of the intents are for full proposals?

Chair: Proposers are not required to say at this point. When they submit their official documents by the 15 June deadline, they are required to include a checklist of minimum functional requirements covered. Presumably full proposal will check all minimum functional requirements. One of the current intents was filed with the word “Partial” in its title but they can change their title if they want. [At this point the chair read the titles of the four intents received so far.]

Question from a call participant: If you want to present more than one partial proposal, can you file with just one email?

Chair: Yes, as long as that email makes it clear that it is intent for a specific number of partial proposals and gives the separate titles for each one. Or you can send in separate emails for each if you like.

3. The Agenda for the March TGs Meeting: The chair said we currently have 10 hours at the March meeting Wednesday Morning, Wednesday Afternoon, and Thursday Afternoon. The chair reviewed his preliminary agenda for the meeting and remarked that there will probably be 30 or 40 minutes available for each brief proposal overview by proposers that wish to make such a presentation.

Question from a call participant: Won’t it be hard to predict how many presentations there will be and how much time will be needed?

Chair: We have ten hours. The deadline for intents and for requesting a slot at the March meeting for a brief overview presentation are both midnight at the end of Friday 11 March 2005 Eastern US Time. I’ll be posting on the following Saturday the verifiable random method for choosing the order of presentations during the meeting. If there are a lot, I can try to get additional time from other task groups at the CAC meeting Sunday evening but there is no guarantee I would succeed.

The chair asked for any objections, suggestions, or comments on the proposed preliminary TGs agenda for the March meeting. There being none, he announced he would submit a document with this agenda. [This has been done. See document 11-04/113r0.]

Comment from a call participant: The dates are wrong in the TGs agenda part of the current WG agenda spreadsheet for Atlanta. The say March 19/20 while the TGs meetings are on March 16/17.

Chair: I’ll try to get this fixed. You may also note that an effort is being made to convert all the times in the WG agenda to 24 hour time.

The chair called for any further comments or topics. None were suggested so the chair adjourned the telecon at about 14:20.

Participants

Donald E. Eastlake 3rd Chris Hinsz Bahareh Sadeghi Guido R. Hiertz Shyamal Ramachandran Dong-Jye Shyy Marcus Wong Juan Carlos Zuniga Sastry Ambatipudi Vira Ananta Dennis Baker Lisa Ward Michael Bahr Levin Chew Jorjeta Jetcheva Ike Nassi

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