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**** KD6ILO Amateur Radio Television Report for the week of July 12 201 0 ****

Well, "I'm back", Its' been about three weeks since my last input to the newsletter just after the June Field Day activities for 2010. For me it was kind of disappointing as there was no activity or participation on any of the simplex ATV frequencies here in the San Diego area north or south county, I made a call out on the 2m ATV coordination frequency with no answers returned. So not to have wasted my time setting up to operate I set-up a receiver unit with four receivers at my QTH (1) on 23cm on 1289.25 MHz AM, (2) on 70cm on 426.25 MHz AM and (3) on 13cm on 2398.0 MHz FM. With a DVR in-line to record my signals I set out around to the Del Mar Fair Grounds, La Jolla Golf Course parking lot and the Del Mar Heights Shopping Plaza. I had my wife on GMRS (WPZT957) so she could tell me how well my video was being received at home. From what I've seen on my DVR most of my video signals from Del Mar Fair grounds were between a P4-P5 on both 70cm and 13cm, on 23cm it was about a P3-P4. from the La Jolla Golf Course all signals were P4-P5. And from the Del Mar Heights Shopping Plaza the only poor signal again was on 23cm about a P2-P3 with color, on 13cm and 70cm P5. So that's how I spent my 2010 Field Day doing ATV simplex test shots back to my own QTH thank goodness for DVR recorders. One of my future task is to test my portable EMCOMM ATV Repeater Unit here in San Diego County its' a great unit and it worked very well in Washington State where it was used with ARES/RACES and Medical Services in the Puget Sound. I had fun on my own during Field Day, but it would have been more fun if I had company at a distant location with other local ATVers, O'Well that's amateur radio. Anyway I made my visits to most of my favorite BATC TV repeater stations for the week and I had notice that most of the streams were not active during the the week It must be the summer heat or everyone is on vacation.

* W7AMQ ATV Net for Saturday, July 10 2010 @ 11 AM PT. A++ Great group get together that morning with our host WB2QHS, Ed and the rest of the AMQ family. The group was small but we had a great net. Steve, K7SF as always had a great P5 picture in to the repeater. Ken, KA7OSM was finally at home using his ATV station and not using "Skype" to check in to the net as he travels to Spokane Washington a lot on business. He has a good looking station set-up at his QTH. Frank, K2NCC was watching from his QTH both via batc and via a satellite receiver unit on the AMQ output frequency. All he needs now is a transmiter to complete the station. NB7C, Carl in Idaho and I in San Diego checked in via Skype as Ed patched us in to the repeater so to say hello and pass our comments and well wishes to the group. Mike, KB7WUK, had a power supply issue and could not put a picture on the AMQ repeater, but at nearly the end of the net he came on with his P5 picture, guess he found the problem nice to see you Mike! O'ya Dennis was missing WA7DRO somewhere in the Pacific NW. Where are you Dennis? Here were the check ins: WB2QHS, K7SF, NB7C, KD6ILO, KA7OSM, K2NCC and KB7WUK.

GB3GW ATV Group Net for Sunday July 11 2010 @ 12PM PT. A + As always a very friendly group of ATV operators, a video tour was given by Derek, GW3FDZ of an old English country home which my wife enjoyed viewing with me very much. P5 pictures with great audio from the GW repeater users. Here were the check ins: MW1WEJ, GW3FDZ, KD6ILO, GW3XDO, Keith (call not posted), and two guest (no calls or names).

GB3TB ATV for Sunday July 11 2010 @ 1230 PM PT. A+ Other Derek, G4WLA was testing his ATV station via the TB repeater his picture was about a P2-P3 with color but he had no audio. He explained he needed a better antenna and height added to improve his signal to TB site. He gets an A+ from me for working on improving his station and signal, that's what its' all about with ATV. Good job Derek see you on soon, 73! G4WLA, KD6ILO

GB3BH ATV Group for Sunday July 11 2010 @ 2PM PT. A++ Great afternoon program via Russell, G7RZF of the "Flying Legends Airshow" held on Saturday, July 10 2010. Perfect video presentation Russell. Joining us that afternoon was Dave, G8ADM and Carl, NB7C from Idaho and he is also a regular on the W7AMQ nets in Portland, OR. Check ins were; G7RZF, G8ADM, NB7C, KD6ILO

GB3KM ATV Group for Sunday July 11 2010 @ 2:30 PM PT. A+ I dropped in on Rob, M0DTS working on his DATV receiver he was trying to flash new updated firmware on to the board but was having problems, but he got it to update. Group was as follows; M0DTS, KD6ILO, G8BYI, G3YWG of the GB3SQ group, M1AHN, NB7C.

GB3IV ATV Group for Monday July 12 2010 @ 2:30 PM PT. I dropped in late for the group get together with G4KLB and G3NZL. Subject matter was a technical issue concerning repeater RF output capacitors. See you all on the next group net on Monday. G3NZZL, G4KLB, KD6ILO and 3 guest (no call or name posted).

GB3KM ATV Group for Monday July 12 2010 @ 3PM PT. A++ Dropped in on Rob, M0DTS again building one of G4DDK's superb 23cm preamps. I always enjoy dropping in on Rob as he always has something on the work bench, a repair job, building a new project or working TV with the KM group. He does answer guest questions on technical issues.. thanks Rob for being a great amateur and friend. M0DTS, G4FVP and KD6ILO.

W7AMQ ATV Net for Monday July 12 2010 @ 7PM PT. A+ Due to a router failure that evening the W7AMQ repeater video feed to the batc server was out for most of the net. But we did still have a pretty good group locally and on the batc stream "hardcore" ATVers hi hi! I had a show and tell presentation for that night but I will have it show it on our next net " Portable Manpack 70cm Unit". I gave the net a A+ for their participation even if we did not get to see everyone on video locally except Ed, WB2QHS. Here were the check ins for that evening; K2NCC, W6HUY, KD6ILO, KC9PNN, KA7WOF, WB2QHS, WA7DRO, NB7C, and N6QOG. Thanks fella's for being there.

WR8ATV ATCO Repeater users group net for Tuesday July 13 2010 @ 6PM PT. A+ Other great net and participation by the ATCO local repeater users and guest on the BATC stream that evening. We had a special guest from Auckland, New Zealand Grant, ZL1WTT. He dropped in just to see and hear what US ATVers were up too. No program that evening just local user check ins, and the DATV part of the repeater was operational for the net. here were the check ins; WA8RMC, W8URI, N8CXI, KC8YPD, W8RWR, KA8LWR, W8RVH, W8URI, K8ZNY, KB8GUE, KB8BZW, KC9PNN, N8NT, KD6ILO and special guest Grant, ZL1WTT.

W6ATN ATN-CA for Tuesday July 13 2010 @ 7:30 PM PT. *** Net activity night? ***, no streaming that evening and I have no line of sight to Santiago Peak to transmit or receive so I could not participte. No path to Point Loma repeater either. San Diego Amateur Radio TV has pretty much gone in-active.

GB3BH ATV Group for Wednesday July 14 2010 @ 2:30 PM PT. A++ We had other good group get together to watch more Airshow video provided by Russell, G7RZF. We also got to see more flight video in a Cessna 172 from the cockpit which was fun with take off and landings. The group net participtes were; G7RZF, G8ADM, M0SAT, G4BID, M1AHN, G8ACT, NB7C and KD6ILO.

GB3KM ATV Group Net for Wednesday July 14 2010 @ 3:30 PM PT. A++ The group get together was all tech talk and information between the local KM repeater users. Rob, M0DTS was working on his DTV receiver unit as the net carried on with other subject matter. It went pass mid-night in England before they turned in for the night. But I'm glad always to be there to hear and see what the group is up to with ATV, always interesting to learn from Rob, Clive and Terry. Group for that evening were; KD6ILO, M0DTS, G4LVP, and G1LPS.

W7ATV Group net for Wednesday July 14 2010 @ 7:30 PM PT. A+ It was a good net that evening not a large group but good participation by all who checked in thanks to our host Robert, KA6PSD. Most were checked in locally on the 2m voice repeater and ownly three on the W7ATV/r and three on the BATC TV stream. Ron, AE6QU had an owsome P5 picture in to W7ATV'r, great work Ron don't touch a thing its' working great. Here were the Check ins for that evenings net were; KA6PSD, KD6ILO, K1ATV, N7LQK, N7NTN, AE6JG, KE7OIW and AE6QU.

W6CX ATV net for Wednesday July 14 2010 @ 8PM PT Its was a technical net with something on the work bench I asked what it was but no one answered me back on the batc chat room, I guess no one was looking at the window during the net. W6HUY, KD6ILO, W6DKE, KA6IVF, K6SOE, WB6ASU anb KB6T.

------>> Amateur Radio TV Talk <<

Most of us ask ourselves where is Amatuer Radio going and taking us when new technology is introduced to us. No matter what the new use of that new technology is, it is sometimes hard for us to keep up or even have a chance to use that new technology and even to afford that new radio, data or ATV video equipment. I have never tried to "Keep up with the Jones'" as they say, I can't afford it. I just read, reseach and experiment with that new mode of communicating, give it a try and see how it would help me to became a better communicator and pass it on to other Ham's if they are willing to learn that new technology or mode. Some..and I mean some Hams' don't feel that the use of the internet should be part of Amatuer Radio, why? IRLP, Echolink, Winlink, D-Star and ATV video streaming will always be part of Amateur radio its not going away anytime soon and I have used each and one of these internet tools for my ARES/RACES/SAR operations with great success in drills, exercises and real emergencies saving lives and property. You don't have to like it, just be open to the use of these new modes and promote "Amateur Radio" for what it is, a friendly and fun way to communicate with people locally or around the world and lets be friends. I've been a Ham for 18 years and been a Amateur television operator for that long and always enjoyed that mode. My other favorites are satellite, digital communications and building my own equipment and antennas. I did not have great success during field day with trying to get someone or club to join me on the air for simplex work on the ATV frequencys' but I did something anyway because I love playing with my Amateur TV equipment. Because, "Its' FUN!

73, Mario, KD6ILO Del Mer Torrey Hills ATV San Diego, CA DM12jw

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Santa Barbara ATV Programing 8:00 PM PT "ATV Movie of the Week" Every Tuesday (0400 UTC Wednesday) www.batc.tv under Repeater Streams click on WB9KMO-ATN 8:30 PM PT WB9KMO/SBARC Santa Barbara Amateur Radio Club ATV Net following the "ATV Movie of the Week". Every Tuesday at (0430 UTC Wednesday) www.batc.tv then goto Repeater Streams and look for WB9KMO-ATN 8:30 PM PT Alternative "Ham Shack" view of the Santa Barbara Amateur Radio Club ATV Net direct from Rod's Shack. Every Tuesday at (0430 UTC Wednesday) www.batc.tv then goto Members Streams and look WB9KMO

8:00 PM PT W7TED Repeaters Net Night Every Tuesday (0400 UTC Wednesday) http://w7ted.camstreams.com 11:00 PM PT DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany Round Table (0700 UTC Wednesday) http://www.afu-ag.de/db0hex/db0hex.m3u Wednesday: 11:00 AM PT Chat Night, GB3ZZ Every Wednesday at 1900 to 2100 UTC BATC.TV streaming video www.batc.tv then go to member streams as well as www.camsecure.co.uk 6:00 PM PT C.A.T.S. Net Net held every Wed. 9:00 PM to 10:00 PM EST (0200 UTC Thursday) http://kb3lnn.camstreams.com 8:30 PM PT Silicon Valley ATV Group Net held every Wed. K6BEN RPT Not currently Streaming Anyone in the area is welcomed to check-in on 145.51 MHz simplex Talk-in freq. 11:00 PM PT DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany Round Table (0700 UTC Thursday) http://www.afu-ag.de/db0hex/db0hex.m3u Thursday: 12:00 Noon PT Torbay Amateur Television & Microwave Group Group Activity Night Every Thursday at 2000 to 2200 UTC www.batc.tv under GB3TB Repeater 6:00 PM PT B.R.A.T.S. Net Net held every Thurs. 9:00 PM to 10:00 PM ET (0200 UTC Firday) http://kb3lnn.camstreams.com 7:00 PM PT SBMS San Bernardino Microwave Society Meeting

Meeting are held on the first Thursday of the month. Meeting start @: 7:00 to 9:00 PM PT Starts @ 0300 UTC to 0500 UTC Friday You can watch the SBMS Meeting on the The METS ATV Repeaters as well as or the ATN-CA Repeaters in Southern California or www.batc.tv them go to ATV Repeaters and click on W6ATN then click on "view stream" or try www.ac6rb.com then click on option #1 or #2 8:00 PM PT MDARC ATV Repeater Net Net held every Thursday starting at 8:00 PM www.stickam.com/w6cxatv 11:00 PM PT DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany Round Table (0700 UTC Friday) http://www.afu-ag.de/db0hex/db0hex.m3u

Friday: 1:00 PM PT GB3GG, Grimsby Amateur Television Group Net Every Friday at 2100 ZULU www.batc.tv 11:00 PM PT DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany Round Table (0700 UTC Saturday) http://www.afu-ag.de/db0hex/db0hex.m3u Saturday: 11:00 AM PT Oregon Amateur Television Association "OATVA Net" Every Saturday starting at 11:00 AM www.batc.tv listed under "repeater streaming" using it's repeater's call W7AMQ 12:00 Noon PT Spanish/English Net Argentina/CA ATV Net Held every Saturday AC6RB and Friends, everyone is welcomed www.batc.tv and found under the W6ATN Repeater stream 6:00 PM PT M.A.T.S. Net Held every Saturday 9:00 PM to 10:00 PM ET (0200 UTC Sunday) http://kb3lnn.camstreams.com Sunday: 1:30 AM PT DB0HEX, Mount Brocken/ATV in Germany Round Table at (0930 UTC) http://www.afu-ag.de/db0hex/db0hex.m3u

3:00 AM PT North Bristol Amateur Radio Club Net every Sunday at 3:00 AM PT (11:00 to 12:00 UTC) Streamed by G8VPG streamed via GB3UT on www.batc.tv

9:30 AM PT MDARC, "Bathrobe" Net Held every Sunday @ 9:30 AM www.stickam.com/w6cxatv 11:00 AM PT GB3ZZ Chat Night Every Sunday at 1900 to 2100 UTC www.batc.tv Streaming video go to members stream and look for GB3ZZ and www.camsecure.co.uk as well 12:00 Noon PT Torbay Amateur Television & Microwave Group Group Activity Night Every Sunday at 2000 to 2200 UTC www.batc.tv under GB3TB Repeater 7:00 PT 9:00 pm CT Minnesota Fastscan Amateur TV MNFAT Club Net Every Sunday at 0300 UTC www.batc.tv Go to "Members Stream" and look for KB0ozn

********************************* Proposed Upcoming Live Webcasts on the BATC.TV Streaming Video http://www.batc.tv/

********************************* Other Streaming ATV Videos Washington State RACES Station http://w7emd.camstreams.com/

W7EMD Ustream.TV http://www.ustream.tv/channel/w7emd-tv

K8DMR's Camstream not in operation at this time

WB8LGA's Camstream Links to other camstreams and Google ATV Maps And location to view the ATCO ATV Net http://wb8lga.camstreams.com

Severnside Television Group http://www.camsecure.co.uk/Camsecure_Radio_Amateurs.html and www.batc.tv

N6GKB's Tower Cam in Yucca Valley, CA . And Back-up for the AC6RB Camstream http://ustream.tv/channel/n6gkb

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______ATV WEBSITE GUIDE ______Acres Electronics, ZL4TAO ATV Gear www.acreselectronics.co.nz ATV Google Map Help Page. http://home.roadrunner.com/~cbeener/Help/Help.htm My home page http://home.roadrunner.com/~cbeener/index.html The Fastscan ATV Google map http://home.roadrunner.com/~cbeener/GMapATVQ.html Amateur Radio Victoria www.amateurradio.com.au New Address updates Amateur Radio Victoria/VK3CE http://home.vk3ce.info Associated Radio Amateurs of Long Beach, Inc. Club Station located on "Queen Mary" W6RO http://www.aralb.org ATCO Newsletter www.atco.tv Amateur Television Quarterly http://ATVQuarterly.com ATV Mobile Website http://home.comcast.net/~k8jwt ATV Newsletter (Back Issues Only) http://www.qsl.net/g3zhi/atvnews.htm Baltimore Radio Amateur Television Society (BRATS) http://www.bratsatv.org British Amateur Television Club Forums http://www.batc.org.uk/forum British Amateur Television Club Website (BATC) CQ-TV Magazine, View Back Issues and the Place to Subscribe http://www.batc.org.uk Cameras on Mountain Tops http://www.AirCommServices.com and http://www.AirSites2000.com Chesapeake Amateur Television Society (CATS) http://mysite.verizon/vzev3ql6/id.html CQ-TV Magazine, view back issues and the place to subscribe http://www.batc.org.uk DATV/Digital Amateur Television Primer, G7LWT And another location you can download bask issues of the "ATV Newsletter" www.g7lwt.com Dutch Digital Amateur Television Site http://d-atv.com G3ZHI Many Ham Radio Links http://www.qsl.net/g3zhi GB3BH http://gb3bh.com GB3KM http://myspace.freeserve.com GW6BWX's Amateur Television Electronics Projects ATV/DATV http://www.atv-projects.com/index.html Hamoholics, 2E0GYZ www.2e0gyz.ning.com Historical TV & Radio Website www.pharis-video.com Intuitive Circuits, LLC ATV Repeater Controllers http://www.icircuits.com/prod_atv_main.html On-Screen ID Overlay and home page http://www.icircuits.com Italian ATV, IK1HGI Web Site for the first Italian ATV contact to the Spanish/English Net http://xoomer.virgilio.it/atv/ac6rb.htm K6BEN-ATV http://www.k6ben.com Las Vegas Radio Amateur Club http://www.lvrac.org and www.hxo.com Microwave Experimenters Television System (METS) http://www.qsl.net/kc6ccc/ Mini-kits Hi-Tech RF Kits and Components http://www.minikits.com.au MNFAT Minnesota Group/KB0OZN www.MNFAT.net N6HOG's Weather Web http://n6hog.com Oregon Amateur Television Association-Portland "OATVA" www.oregonatv.org P.C. Electronics www.hamtv.com Redding Repeater and Amateur TV Society http://www.qsl.net/wr6tv Salem Amateur Television Associations-Salem www.qsl.net/k7atv/ San Bernardino Microwave Society (SBMS) http://www.ham-radio.com/sbms Severnside Television Group Website www.stvg.co.uk http://www.batc.tv streaming website Southgate Amateur Radio Club www.southgatearc.org WA6NUT's page HF with FFT-TV http://www.hamsdr.com/personaldirectory.aspx?did=1139 WWATS, Western Washington Amateur Television Society www.qsl.net/ww7ats

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______Repairs Needed for the ATN-CA Repeaters ______Blueridge: 1. Establish link from Mt. Potosi Mt Wilson: Saw testing on 3/21/10.on 434 MHz and it was working Oat Mtn.: 1. Replace plastic wire ties with appropriate fasteners. 2. Tune 2.4 GHz link dipole for better SWR. It would be a good idea to sweep the 1200 MHz antenna at the same time as well. 3. 3 GHz output could be installed anyday 6/15/10. Santiago Peak: 1. Remove KC6UQH's call and Palomar from the W6ATN repeaters ID's (late spring early summer 08 when the new controller is installed) (Removable requested buy the Palomar Amateur Radio Club and KC6UQH in 2007) 2. Look into weak signal getting into one of the inputs. 3. Find intermittent receive problem for link from Oat Mtn..(1/24/09) 4. Resolve problems with WiFi getting into receiver for Snow Peak & Point Loma (April 28, 2009) Snow Peak: 1. 2.4 Ghz input is operational but has audio problems due to receiver problems on the network hub.. July 23, 2009 2. The 1200 MHz output does work and you can watch. 3. Get repeater back on the air. Point Loma, W6RDF: No Repairs Needed/Fully Operational Trustee Robert Swain, KA4JSR 1. Off the air do to AC problems at the shack. 2. 434 input unuseable (4/03.01) ______

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______Letters to the Editor

************************************************************ Are the ATN-CA Repeaters Off? The Streaming video from W6ATN repeaters are not streaming so does that mean that Mike has turned off the ATN repeaters or he is doing some damage control?

No the repeaters are still operating but the stream has been off. I suspect that there is a technical reason for the stream not working. And I can't see Mike leaving the stream off for very long. It would appear that he has lost control of the repeaters and doesn't want the rest of the world seeing what is happening. I guess that is damage control.

And I guess if the stream stays off for any period of time he has decided he can't stop the problems and will be turning off the repeaters very soon. The Editor ******************************************

Twenty Years Watching ATN

“I read with great amusement the recent letters concerning KA6DPS and the happenings

on the WA6SVT “Animal House” ATV repeater.

I am an ex-ATN member and I have been watching

the repeater on and off for the last 20 years or so.

Dave Couch has many times boasted that he has

survived because of his “thick skin”. Thick skin is

another way of saying ‘I’m insensitive”. It is also

another way of saying I’m “numb” He can’t be

insulted because he doesn’t

understand intelligent criticism.

After being a “card carrying member” for several years, I quit the ATN. On net night there used to be dozens of video check-ins and a “crunch contest” on 434 where we competed to see who could capture the repeater with the strongest video signal. There was continuous activity nightly on the repeater with technical discussions going on for hours.

Members were encouraged to experiment.

Now anyone with any technical background or education is routinely shunned or ignored. A few old time friends control who gets to use it and what happens on the repeater. Anyone who wants to use the repeater must go thru KA6DPS because he is there all day and far into the night. What a trooper, he never leaves his post. Nothing will happen on his watch.

I only watch ATN now for “entertainment value”. I still have all my ATV gear but I will not get on because of KA6DPS and I know of about a dozen other guys who have had similar experiences with him.

I will not give any money to ATN. ATN is not a club. It is a hobby of Mike Collis.

The ATN system seems to have no useful purpose.

No public service nets ever use it. It is only a few old guys with nothing else to do.

I guess I’ll have to “wait it out” with KA6DPS before I get back on the ATN repeater. Let’s see how old is that man?”

************************************************** Dibs on "BANDIT" I call dibs on the handle of "Bandit" for the new CB-TV here in California. I don't want to end up with an un-cool handle

Dave is already using "Rocking Chair" and I have heard other CBers call Bill "Wild Bill". So everyone should get their handle ready.

I think that every CB-TVer on the ATN should go to the salvage yard and pick-up a big truck steering wheel so when you are are CBing you can pretend that you are driving a 18 wheeler. And maybe you can bounce up and down a little like your on the road.

Maybe you can all talk more like a hillbilly so we can have the real feeling of CB.

10-4 Good buddies Bandit ************************************************* ATVQ Centerfold Aren't these the same guys that wanted to have a centerfold of an old ham wearing nothing but a thong added to the ATVQ Magazine?

It didn't take long for them to get back on the horse. And it looks like the centerfold might really happen. I had no idea that they run ATN. ********************************************** Things are Better I have noticed that the language on ATN has gotten better since this all broke in the news. But I expect it will be like all the other times before. It will all come back worse then before just like nothing ever happened. ************************************************ Invitation to Anonymous

If you would like to send a "Letter to the Editor" and want to have your name withheld to protect your identity so as to shield yourself from the attacks I will print your letter, but I must know who you are and be able to contact you.

Whenever I have been asked to protect someones identity I have always done so. But I have a responsibility to my readers to know who sent the letter......

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