Zieske Research Working Report: Discussions

17 March 2009

Table of Contents

Note: View this report on line. However, the Table of Contents “hot” links are likely to function only if you save this report to your computer first. This document is 71 pages.

Helpful Internet References

Steinke Family Analysis. 24 April 2008

Michael Zieske b.1816 & Michael Zieske b.1846/47 Timeline. 19 May 2008

4 Families and their Records: Zieski/Krenz & Breitkreutz/Pulseuss and Zieske/Schulz & Schulz/Zibart. 22 Feb 2008

Arndt (Arnd) Family Search. 9 Feb 2008 (updated 2 Mar 2008)

Wilhelm Zieske Discussion. 14 Jan 2008

Fasbender & Neumann Wilhelm Zieske Facts for Consideration. 12 Jan 2008

Is there a Pulsfuss connection between our Zieske/Zieski? 19 Dec 2007

18 December 2007 Review and Observations with updates

Analysis of 7 December 2007 Microfilm Review and Observations to Date

Discussion (What I think this means): 30 November 2007

By Fred Matson

1 Helpful Internet References:

Note: These are not hot links. Copy and paste these links to your Internet browser.

Kartenmeister: http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseuwe.asp Database search for German and modern Polish named communities, counties etc. maps

Lazarus: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/34-53.jpg Very good detailed map of the Posen area we research.

Jim Birkholtz WEB site: http://www.birchy.com/GenWiki/index.php?title=Main_Page This man is the administrator for the Posen Listserv. And his site has many Posen related links and information.

Posen Listserv: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/POSEN.html Professional volunteer genealogists researching Posen who will entertain inquiries. Official Posen Listserv WEB site: http://posen-l.com/

Google Earth Poznan Parishes (Placemarks) Project: Requires a software download from: http://www.birchy.com/GenWiki/index.php?title=GoogleEarth_Parishes_Project Go here to download the software for an excellent interactive map of Posen Parishes.

Poznan Project: http://bindweed.man.poznan.pl/posen/search.php Search the Marriages database. Main Project site: http://bindweed.man.poznan.pl/posen/project.php

Map of Europe 1848: http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/map36pol.html Shows political divisions at that time.

Netzekreis: http://www.netzekreis.de/ortschaften/ortschaften.html History and pictures of communities we search, in German.

2 Zieske Families Search Steinke Family Analysis 24 April 2008 Updated 11 March 2009

The Steinke family of Stieglitz is linked, through marriage, to the Fasbender Zieski group and, of course, all descendants of Johann Ziske (Zieski) & Louise Steinke (who in the records report are married 12 Feb 1847 in Stieglitz), share common ancestry.

Louise Steinke, wife of Johann Ziske (Zieski), was born in Stieglitz on 12 March 1828 to Martin Steinke and Rosina Warnke. Her sponsors are Christine Vielhaber and Peter Warnke.

Here is what I have seen and learned re: the Steinke Family name:

1. The Steinke family name is in Putzighauland, Putzig and Stieglitz. Martin is a common first name in these families. For this reason, we have to be careful in identifying the correct parents of Louise Steinke, wife of Johann Ziske (Zieski).

2. We know from her marriage record, that Louise Steinke's father is named Martin Steinke. This Martin Steinke is a deceased farmer from Stieglitz at the time of his daughter’s marriage to Johann Ziske (Zieski) on 12 Feb 1847.

3. Louise Steinke is age 19 at her marriage on 12 Feb 1847. Therefore, she is born about 1828.

4. A Martin Steinke in Putzighauland has five wives and by them, seven known children, all born in Putzighauland as follows: Anna Christina, 8 Jan 1813; Johann Michael, 9 Sep 1815; Justina Wilhelmine, 27 Nov 1818; Anna Louise, 5 March 1821; Hennriette, 26 May 1824; Anna Susanna, 18 Sep 1826; and Eva Rosina, 3 Feb 1833. Few of these Steinke children of Putzighauland are born about 1828 and none are named Louise.

5. The known wives of Martin Steinke of Putzighauland are:

a. Dorothea Louise Mathwicken (or such), mother of Anna Christina. This 1st wife died 16 May 1813;

b. Dorothea Sophia Lehmann, mother of Johann Michael; Justina Wilhelmine; Anna Louisa; and Hennriette. This 2nd wife died 11 May 1825.

c. Maria Elisabeth Klingbeil, mother of Anna Susanna. The Marriage of Martin Steinke & Maria Elisabeth Klingbeil is 7 Sep 1825. Maria’s death date is unknown but is very likely before Martin marries Anna Elisabeth Klingbeil. Maria is Martin’s 3rd wife.

3 d. Anna Elisabeth Klingbeil, mother of Eva Rosina. This 4th wife died 18 Oct 1837. Note: The record has Maria Elisabeth Klingbeil as the mother of Anna Susanna and Anna Elisabeth Klingbeil as the mother of Eva Rosina. However, I have found only a death, 18 Oct 1837, for Anna Elisabeth Steinke nee. Klingbeil.

There is the possibility that Maria Elisabeth Klingbeil and Anna Elisabeth Klingbeil are one and the same person. If they are not, they very well could be sisters or cousins.

e. Martin Steinke married Anna Christina Holz, wife five, on 4 April 1844. She is called Steinke because of a prior marriage to a Steinke. It is in this 4 April 1844 marriage record that we learn that the bride, Anna Christina Holz, of Stieglitiz, becomes the 5th wife of the widower, Martin Steinke of Putzighauland. At this marriage to Martin Steinke, Anna Christina Holz is a widow of a man of whose last name is also Steinke.

6. This situation leaves unaccounted for, the childbirth we search: Louise, born about 1828.

7. I have very likely found the correct Louise Steinke. If so, Louise Steinke, wife of Johann Ziske (Zieski) was born in Stieglitz on 12 March 1828 to Martin Steinke and Rosina Warnke. This record is in the reports under Other Communities, Stieglitz. Her sponsors are Christine Vielhaber and Peter Warnke.

8. Another Louise Steinke, born also in Stieglitz but in 1829 with an 8 August Baptism is not likely the Louise Steinke we search. However, this other Louise Steinke could very well be a cousin of Louise Steinke born 12 March 1828. The parents of this second Louise Steinke are Gottlieb Steinke and Susanna Schulz. Her sponsors are Johann Warnke and Anna Rosena Warnke.

9. A third Martin Steinke of Stieglitz and his wife, Maria Mueller are the parents of Wilhelmine, born 3 July 1828 in Stieglitz. This child’s sponsors are Elisabeth Müeller and Maria Steinke. This is not the Martin Steinke, father of Louise Steinke who married Johann Ziske (Zieski).

10. We know from Louise Steinke’s marriage to Johann Ziske (Zieski) on 12 Feb 1847, that Louise Steinke’s father is a deceased farmer of Stieglitz and his name is Martin Steinke.

11. A Martin Steinke died in Stieglitz on 11 March 1844. This is the only Martin Steinke death in Stieglitz for 1844-1847, the period that covers also the marriage of Martin Steinke of Putzighauland to Anna Christina Holz on 4 April 1844 and the marriage of Louise Steinke & Johann Ziske (Zieski) on 12 Feb 1847.

4 12. This deceased Martin Steinke was age 46 at death on 11 March 1844. His parents are Johann Steinke & Maria nee Imm.

13. Based on his 3rd and 5th marriage records, Martin Steinke of Putzighauland would have been about age 54 had he died on 11 March 1844. Also, Martin Steinke of Putzighauland could not have died on 11 March 1844 and also married on 4 April 1844. That eliminates as the father of Louise Steinke.

14. It is very likely that these two men named Martin Steinke are not the same person. They may, however, be related.

15. Very likely, the Martin Steinke of Stieglitz who died on 11 March 1844 at age 46 is the father of Louise Steinke who married Johann Ziske (Zieski). It is unlikely, that Martin Steinke of Putzighauland was her father. It also would be impossible for Martin Steinke, father of Wilhelmine born 3 July 1828 in Stieglitz, about four months after Louise, to be her father.

16. It is possible that the Steinke family group of Putzighauland and the Steinke family group of Stieglitz are related. It is also possible that Martin Steinke of Putzighauland’s 5th wife, widow Anna Christina nee. Holz, formerly married to a Steinke, was married to Louise Steinke’s father at his death but is a subsequent marriage and not the mother of Louise.

Fred Matson

5 Timeline for Michael b.1816 & Michael b. 1846 Zieske Family Events 14 Nov 2007 – 11 March 2009

Purpose: to assist in determining travel date to and within USA Assumptions: that at least the event year is accurate & that the event took place.

1766 Feb 09 Birth: Maria Elisabeth Fercho (Vercho). Paul Fercho is the father; a mother is not named in the record. Her birth is in Gross Kotten. (11 March 2009)

1768 Apr 17 Birth: Anna Christina Vercho. Paul Fercho is the father; a mother is not named in the record. The birth is in Gross Kotten. (11 March 2009)

1768 Oct 21 Death: Anna Christina Vercho age 6 months and 3 days. Paul Vercho is the father; a mother is not named in the record. Died in Gross Kotten. This is the girl born 17 April 1768. (11 March 2009)

1769 Oct 22 Birth: Anna Christina Vercho. Paul Vercho is the father; a mother is not named in the record. The birth is in Gross Kotten. (11 March 2009)

1770 Sep 14 Death: Anna Elisabeth Vercho age 1 year, 2 weeks. The father is Paul Vercho; a mother is not named in the records. The death is in Gross Kotten. This is the girl born 22 Oct 1769. (11 March 2009)

1777 Feb 10 Marriage: widower Paul Vercho & Anna Christina Kelm, in Gross Kotten, kreis Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia. Christina’s father is Martin Kelm of Gross Kotten. Likely parents of the wife of Johann Zieske, father of Michael Zieske born 1816 (3 March 2009)

1780 Nov 22 Birth: Anna Christina Verchow. Mother of Michael Zieske born 1816. Birth date is calculated from her death record. Her parents are: Paul Vercho & Anna Christina Kelm. Her birth/baptism is not yet found in Gross Kotten. But her parent’s 10 Feb 1777 marriage has been found.

1780 about Birth: Johann Zieske likely Prussia. This is the father of Gottlieb Zieske born 1813; Michael Zieske born 1816; and Wilhelmine Zieske born 1820.

1813 Dec 31 Birth: Gottlieb Zieske. Calculated birth date. Likely location is Gross Kotten, kreis Cczarnikau, Posen, Prussia. Brother of Michael Zieske born 1816. He is the 1st husband of Anna Rosina Arnd born about 1817. (11 March 2009)

1816 Nov 30 Birth: Michael Zieske birth in probably Gross Kotten, kreis Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (3 March 2009)

6 1817 Birth: Anna Rosina Arnd. Born in likely Prussia. Mother of Michael Zieske born 1846. Birth year is estimate based on marriage to Gottlieb Zieske record.

1818 Apr 19 Marriage: Andreas Schulz & Susanna Zibart in Putzig. These are the parents of Anna Christina (Schultz) Zieske born 1821.

1820 Oct 12 Birth: Wilhelmine Zieske in Gross Kotten. This is a sister of Gottlieb Zieske born 31 Dec 1813 and Michael Zieske born 30 Nov 1816. Parents: Johann Zieske & Anna Christina Verchow (3 March 2009)

1821 Mar 31 Birth: Anna Christina (Schulz) Zieske wife of Michael Zieske 1816, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia.

1841 Jul 09 Marriage: Follstein: Gottlieb Zieske & Anna Rosina Arnd. These are the parents of Michael Zieske born 1846, Wilhelmine and Gottfried.

1841 Aug 27 Birth: Daniel Moll husb of Wilhelmina E. Zieske. In Weilheim, Wittenburg, Germany

1842 Jan 12 Death: Andreas Schulze age 51, 10 mos. Putzig. Father of Anna Christina Schulz wife of Michael 1847.

1842 Apr 15 Marriage: Michael Zieske & Anna Christine Schulz. Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia.

1842 Dec 20 Birth: Johann Christoph. Son of Michael 1816. Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia: John C. Zieske

1844 Feb 28 Birth: Wilhelmine Zieske born in Ascherbude. Sister of Michael Zieske born 1846.

1845 Jan 09 Birth: Gottfried. Son of Michael 1816. Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia: Frederick Gottfried Zieske

1846 Sep 26 Birth: Michael. Nephew of Michael 1816. Ascherbude, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia. Parents: Gottlieb Zieske & Anna Rosina Arnd.

1847 Jan 14 Birth: Anna Susanna. Daughter of Michael 1816, Putzig: Anna Susanna Zieske. Verified, Not 1841 birth.

1847 Nov 16 Birth: Mary (Strassburg) wife of John C. Zieske. Radowitz, Prussia, Germany

1849 Feb 27 Death: Anna Christina Verchow in Ascherbude. Wife of Johann Zieske, father of Michael Zieske born 1816. Born est 22 Nov 1870.

7 1849 Jun 25 Birth: Joh. Christoph. Son of Michael 1816. Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia: Johann Augusta Zieske

1849 Jul 03 Death: Joh. August. Son of Michael 1816. Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia: Johann Augusta Zieske.

1849 Dec 12 Birth: Gottfried Zieske. Born likely in Prussia. Brother of Michael Zieske born 26 Sep 1846.

1850 Jun 20 Birth: Peter Majewski husband of Augusta Henriette Zieske. Born in Ratesin, Posen, Prussia

1850 Jul 18 Birth: Johanna Juliane. Daughter of Michael 1816, Putzig : Julia Zieske. Married William Strassburg

1851 Apr 06 Birth: Wilhemenia (Sonnenberg) Zieske wife of Michael Zieske 1847. Born in Germany

1852 Oct 01 Death: Gottlieb Zieske in Ascherbude. Husband of Anna Rosina Arnd, father of Michael Zieske born 1846, brother of Michael Zieske born 1816.

1853 Mar 09 Birth: Wilhelmine Ernestine. Daughter of Michael 1816. Putzig. Married Daniel Moll.

1853 May 17 Death: Anna Susanna. Daughter of Michael 1816, Putzig. Age 6 yr, 4 mos, 4 days.

This is the end of family events in Prussia/Germany for Michael born 1816 and the beginning of events in U. S. A.

1855 Feb 25 Marriage: Anna Rosina Arnd & Wilhelm Matz. Anna Rosina’s 2nd marriage. Her 1st husband, Gottlieb Zieske, died 1 Oct 1852.

1855 Jun 01 Census: Wisconsin, Marquette cty, Shields twp. Michael 1816 appears to not be in this location

1855 Dec 10 Birth: Albertine Wilhelmine Matz. The parents are Wilhelm Matz & Anna Rosina geb Arnd, widow of Gottlieb Zieske born 1813. This birth is in Ascherbude, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia. (11 March 2009)

1856 Jan 13 Birth: Daughter of Michael 1816 born in Wisconsin: Augusta Henriette (Zieske) Majewski

8 1857 Birth: Augusta Matz. The parents are Wilhelm Matz & Anna Rosina geb Arnd, widow of Gottlieb Zieske born 1813. This birth is in Ascherbude, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia. (11 March 2009)

1858 Jan 09 Land Purchase (Vol3, P.632 Shields twp, Marquette cty): Michael 1816 from Edwin L. & Delilah Ellen Shipley

1858 Jan 09 Land Purchase (Vol3, P.634 Mecan twp, Green Lake cty): Michael 1816 from Christian & Rosena Grahn

1858 Jan 11 Land Purchase (Vol3, P.633 Shields twp, Marquette cty): Michael 1816 from Thomas John & Lovina Shipley

1858 Jan 11 Residence: Michael Zieske born 1816: Crystal Lake Township, Marquette County (per land purchases)

1858 May 18 Birth: Son of Michael 1816 born in Wisconsin: Friedrich Wilhelm Zieske

1858 Jun 05 Birth: William Mellinthin born in Germany

1860 Feb Birth: Wilhelm Matz. The parents are Wilhelm Matz & Anna Rosina geb Arnd, widow of Gottlieb Zieske born 1813. This birth is in Ascherbude, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia. (11 March 2009)

1860 Jun 29 Birth: Daughter of Michael 1816 born in Wisconsin: Mary A. (Zieske) Mellinthin

1860 Jul 09 Census:WI, Marquette Cty, Shields Twp: Michael 1816 (Michael Chester) wife and all children to date.

1862 Jan 13 Military: John C. Zieske enlisted in military at Berlin, from Princeton WI. Record is for John C. Siskey. (end, 18 July 1865). Residence at enlistement: Princeton, Green Lake county, WI.

1862 Aug 15 Military: Frederick Gottfried Zieske enlisted in military at Princeton, WI. Record is for Frederick Siskey (end, 12 Jun 1865). Occup is farmer, Princeton town, Green Lake county, WI.

1862 Aug 15 Birth: Son born in Wisconsin: August Frank Zieske (last child of Michael Zieske b. 1816 & Anna Christina Schulz.

1863 Jul 06 Birth: Sabine S. (Nagel) Zieske wife of August Frank Zieske born in Denmark

9 1864 Mar 23 Military: Michael Zieske b.1846 enlisted in military at Princeton, WI. Record is for Michael Siskey (end, 26 Jul 1865).Occup is farmer, Princeton town, Green Lake Cty. Credit (for enlistment) to Town Ward Two Rivers, Manitowoc County, WI

1865 Mar 27 Birth: August Matz. The parents are Wilhelm Matz & Anna Rosina geb Arnd, widow of Gottlieb Zieske born 1813. This birth is in Ripon, Wisconsin. (11 March 2009)

1865 Jun 12 Military: Frederick Gottfried as Frederick Siskey musterd out of service

1865 Jul 18 Military: War: John C. Zieske as John C. Siskey mustered out of service

1865 Jul 26 Military: Michael Zieske b. 1846 as Michael Siskey mustered out of service

1867 Sep 17 Marriage: Mary Strassburg & John C. Zieske in Nicollet County, MN

1870 Mar 06 Birth: Herman Julius Zieske born in Brown County, MN. 1st child of Michael Zieske 1846 & Wilhelmina Sonnenberg

1870 Aug 05 Census: John C. & Frederick Gottfried Zieske & Family in Courtland twp, Nicollet cty, MN

1870 Aug 11 Census: Michael Zieske 1816 & Michael Zieske 1847 & Family in Lafayette twp, Nicollet cty, MN

1870 Dec 07 Marriage: Wilhelmina E. Zieske & Daniel Moll marriage in Courtland, Nicollet County, MN

1872 Jan 22 Birth: Edward W. Zieske born in Courtland, Nicollet cty, MN, 2nd child of Michael Zieske 1847 & Wilhelmina Sonnenberg

1874 Jan 24 Birth: Emma Zieske born in Courtland, Nicollet cty, MN, 3rd child of Michael Zieske 1846 & Wilhelmina Sonnenberg.

1874 Mar 11 Marriage: Augusta Henriette Zieske & Peter Majewski in Nicollet County, MN 1876 Jul 25 Birth: Ernest Zieske born Courtland, Nicollet cty, MN, 4th child of Michael Zieske 1847 & Wilhelmina Sonnenberg. 1880 Jun 04 Census: Michael Zieske 1847 and family in Nicollet cty MN

10 1880 Jun 10/11 Census: Michael Zieske 1816 wife, Anna and daughter, Mary in Brown cty MN

1881 Apr 04 Death: Friedrich Wilhelm Zieske died

1881 Aug 31 Marriage: Mary A. Zieske & William Mellinthin married in Brown County, MN

1885 Jun 11 Census: Michael 1846 & Family in Courtland, Nicollet County, MN

1885 May 27 Marriage: August Frank Zieske & Sabine S. Nagel married in Brown County, MN

1886 Jan 06 Death: Michael Zieske born 30 Nov 1816 died in Brown County, MN

1891 May 08 Death: Michael Zieske born 26 Sep1846 died

1897 May 27 Death: August Frank Zieske born 15 Aug 1862 died

1898 Sep 03 Death: Augusta (Richter) Zieske born 13 Jan 1856, wife of Frederick Gottfried Zieske died

1899 Sep 03 Death: Anna C. (Schultz) Zieske born 30 Mar 1821 death in Brown County, MN

1911 Jun 30 Death: Mary Strassburg born 16 Nov 1847, wife of John C. Zieske death in Sleepy Eye, Brown County, MN

1917 Dec 29 Death: John C. Zieske born 25 Dec 1842 death in Sleepy Eye, Brown County, MN at home

1918 Death: Mary A. (Zieske) Mellinthin born 29 Jun 1860 died

1923 Jan 16 Death: Daniel Moll husb of Wilhelmina E. Zieske death in Sleepy Eye, Brown County, MN

1923 Dec 16 Death: Frederick Gottfried Zieske born 9 Jan 1845 died in Soldiers’ Home, Mpls, Hennepin County, MN

1928 May 04 Death: Johanna Juliane “Julia” Zieske born 18 Jul 1850 Old Soldiers' Home, Minneapolis, MN with prior home residence of Springfield, Brown, MN

1933 Jan 08 Death: Wilhelmina E. (Zieske) Moll born 9 Mar 1853 died

11 1934 Dec 22 Death: Wilhemenia Sonnenberg, wife of Michael Zieske born 1847. Courtland, Nicollet Cty, MN

1936 Aug 09 Death: August Matz born 27 March 1865 in Ripon Wisconsin died in Echo, Yellow Medicine county, Minnesota. He is the son of Wilhelm Matz and Anna Rosina geb Arnd, widow of Gottlieb Zieske born 1813.

1951 Death: August Frank Zieske born 15 Aug 1862 died.

End- but updated as new information is available.

12 A Picture of Four Families from Our Zieske (Zieski, Ziske) Research

22 February 2008

This paper summarizes what I know about our research for the following parents and their children. The “hot” links below bring you to each section.

There are two parts for each couple: (1) Descendant Chart and (2) Prussian Church Record Extraction & Notes.

Each part is a report from my Family Tree Maker genealogy files. I have typed in basic data and have also copied relevant FAMILY FINDS from my regular Progress Report to Family Tree Maker. The record should be the same or very close to the same in each location.

Michael Zieski (Ziske) & Anna Maria Krenz Primary Fasbender Zieski Ancestors Descendant Chart Prussian Church Record Extraction & Notes

Michael Breitkreutz & Anna Rosina Pulseuss In-laws of Johann, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz Descendant Chart Prussian Church Record Extraction & Notes

Michael Zieske & Anna Christina Schulz Primary Bloedow-Strasburg Zieske Ancestors Descendant Chart Prussian Church Record Extraction & Notes

Andreas Schulz & Susanna Zibart Parents of wife of- and in-laws of Michael Zieske Descendant Chart Prussian Church Record Extraction & Notes

There are, of course, more families in our research. But these four families stand out as having the largest Prussian-based research attention. For some of these, older ancestor records are found in the Progress Report.

Fred Matson

13 Descendants of Michael Zieski (Ziske) & Anna Maria Krenz Primary Fasbender Zieski Ancestors (revised 17 June 2008)

1 Michael Ziske b: Abt. 1795 in Putzig, Posen, Preuben, Prussia d: Bef. 12 Feb 1847 in Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia-deceased before 1st marriage of son, Johann +Anna Maria Krenz b: Abt. 1795 in Putzig, Posen, Preuben, Prussia m: Unknown in Likely Putzig, Posen, Prussia 2 Gottfried Ziske b: 03 Aug 1818 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Baptism: 09 Aug 1818 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified)

+Anna Rosina Posehnb: Abt. 1819 m: Bet. 08 - 30 Apr 1838 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) 3 Wilhelmine Ziske b: 03 Mar 1839 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Baptism: 24 Mar 1839 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified)

3 Julianne Ziske b: Jul 1843 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified). Birth day is difficult to determine.Baptism: 09 Jul 1843 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) 3 Henriette Ziske b: 29 Jan 1846 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Baptism: 15 Feb 1846 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified)

2 [1] Johann Ziske b: 24 Dec 1820 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Baptism: 31 Dec 1820 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia. Sponsors- Andreas Polsfus; Johann Michael Zibart; Wilhelmine Polsfus.Verified. d: 01 Jan 1907 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin +Louise Steinke b: 12 Mar 1828 in Stieglitz, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Baptism: 16 Mar 2008 Stieglitz, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia. m: 12 Feb 1847 in Stieglitz, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) d: Bef. 06 Jan 1856 in Likely Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified) 3 Ludwig "Lewis" Ziske b: 26 Jul 1848 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia Baptism: 06 Aug 1848 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia

3 August Ziske b: 07 Dec 1850 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia Baptism: 17 Dec 1850 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia: Sponsors-Friedrich Ziske; Michael Müske; Anna Maria Ziske. d: Aft. 1930 +Amilia Zieske b: Jul 1855 in Wisconsin m: Abt. 1877 d: Aft. 1930 *2nd Wife of [1] Johann Ziske: +Anna Rosina Breitkreutz b: 26 Nov 1833 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 08 Dec 1833 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record). Baptism date is difficult to read. m: 06 Jan 1856 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) d: Bet. 06 Jan 1856 - 30 Jan 1857 in Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia (unconfirmed but likely because of husband's remarraige)

14 *3rd Wife of [1] Johann Ziske: +Beata Louise Breitkreutz b: 06 Jun 1839 in Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 09 Jun 1839 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified). m: 30 Jan 1857 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) d: 08 Jun 1908 in Fox Lake, Dodge County, Wisconsin 3 Mary Zieske b: 04 Mar 1858 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin d: 22 Apr 1936 3 Amelia Zieske b: 12 Feb 1860 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin d: 25 Nov 1945 +Frank A Stein m: Nov 1900 in Dodge County, Wisconsin 3 Elizabeth (Louisa) Zieske b: 29 Oct 1861 in Beaver Dam, Dodge, Wisconsin d: 16 Jun 1945 3 John Zieske b: 28 Apr 1864 in Beaver Dam, Dodge, Wisconsin d: 28 Oct 1935 in Faith, Fossum Township, Norman County, Minnesota - at home +Lucia Harriet "Hattie" Baker b: 15 May 1860 in Jordan Twp, Scott County, Minnesota m: 10 Jul 1884 in Clarisa, Todd County, MN per Marriage Certificate [Marriage license is for Clarisa, McLeod cty, MN] d: 09 Mar 1954 in Spokane, Spokane County, Washington 3 Emma Zieske b: 27 Apr 1868 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin d: 24 Apr 1914 3 Julius "Jule" Zieske b: 07 Aug 1869 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin d: 29 Oct 1936 3 Minnie Zieske b: 29 Apr 1873 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin d: Unknown 3 Katie Zieske b: Abt. 1877 in Likely Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin d: Unknown 3 Albert Zieske b: Feb 1883 in Likely Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin d: Unknown + Nellie born about 1891 (Last name possibly, Neider) 2 Maria Zieski b: Abt. 1823 in Putzig, Posen, Preuben,, Prussia (unconfirmed) +Gottlieb Gehler b: Abt. 1817 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified) m: 06 Aug 1854 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) 2 Michael Ziske b: 22 Apr 1826 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Baptism: 04 May 1826 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified)

+Ana Christina Schutz b: in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (Likely, but not even sure of name) m: Unknown in Putzig, Posen, Preuben,,Prussia 2 Wilhelm Ziskeb: 27 Mar 1829 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Baptism: 28 Mar 1829 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified)

15 Prussian Church Record Extractions & Notes for: Descendants of Michael Zieski (Ziske) & Anna Maria Krenz Primary Fasbender Zieski Ancestors

1. MICHAEL1 ZISKE was born Abt. 1795 in Putzig, Posen, Preuben, Prussia, and died Bef. 12 Feb 1847 in Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia-deceased before 1st marriage of son, Johann. He married ANNA MARIA KRENZ Unknown in Likely Putzig, Posen, Prussia. She was born Abt. 1795 in Putzig, Posen, Preuben, Prussia.

Notes for MICHAEL ZISKE: As of 30 Sep 2007, Michael Zieskei & Anna Maria Krenz, each born about 1795 in Of Putzig, Posen, Preuben, Prussia, are the heads of this genealogy. There is as yet no family connection of these people or descendants to our Michael Zieske born 1816 and Michael Zieske born 1847 genealogy and family. Fred Matson 30 Sep 2007, updated 18 Feb 2008.

Children of MICHAEL ZISKE and ANNA KRENZ are: i. GOTTFRIED2 ZISKE, b. 03 Aug 1818, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified); m. ANNA ROSINA POSEHN, Bet. 08 - 30 Apr 1838, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified); b. Abt. 1819.

Notes for GOTTFRIED ZISKE: BIRTH: 1818 Aug 3, bapt 9 Aug: Vol 4, page 90. Child: GOTTFRIED. Father, Michael Ziske; Mother, Anna Maria Krentzen. Sponsors: Christoph Müller and Anna Maria Zibart. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is the first child of these parents. FHL 0808104: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1815-1819): Putzig Pictures 4757-4760 taken 18 Jan 2008.

MARRIAGE: 1838: April: Page 278: Record 3 (bottom of page): GOTTFRIED ZISKE (father, Michael Ziske) and ANNA ROSINNA POSEHN, Jungfrau (father, Michael Possehn) each groom and bride age 19. This marriage is likely 8 April or after. 8 April is the last date recorded in the marriage announcement column. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. this is likely Gottfried Zieski of Valerie’s Fasbender Zieske family. Based on new birth 3 Aug 1818, bapt 9 Aug 1818 by the unidentified researcher who posted such on familysearch.org, the age is very close, the father of the groom is correct. If this is correct then the fanthom researcher may have 6 children identified and easily more after that: Wilhelmine bapt 24 Mar 1839; Juliane bapt 9 Jul 1843; Henriette bap 15 Feb 1846; August bap 6 Aug 1848; Ernestine bap 8 June 1851; and Bertha bap 16 Dec 1855; and all in Putzig. We have the records of Wilhelmine and Juliane in this report, page 76/77 and page 104/105. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Picture 4551-4553 taken 14 Dec 2007

16 Notes for ANNA ROSINA POSEHN: +MARRIAGE: 1838: April: Page 278: Record 3 (bottom of page): GOTTFRIED ZISKE (father, Michael Ziske) and ANNA ROSINNA POSEHN, Jungfrau (father, Michael Possehn) each groom and bride age 19. This marriage is likely 8 April or after. 8 April is the last date recorded in the marriage announcement column. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. this is likely Gottfried Zieski of Valerie’s Fasbender Zieske family. Based on new birth 3 Aug 1818, bapt 9 Aug 1818 by the unidentified researcher who posted such on familysearch.org, the age is very close, the father of the groom is correct. If this is correct then the fanthom researcher may have 6 children identified and easily more after that: Wilhelmine bapt 24 Mar 1839; Juliane bapt 9 Jul 1843; Henriette bap 15 Feb 1846; August bap 6 Aug 1848; Ernestine bap 8 June 1851; and Bertha bap 16 Dec 1855; and all in Putzig. We have the records of Wilhelmine and Juliane in this report, page 76/77 and page 104/105. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Picture 4551-4553 taken 14 Dec 2007 ii. JOHANN ZISKE, b. 24 Dec 1820, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified); d. 01 Jan 1907, Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin; m. (1) LOUISE STEINKE, 12 Feb 1847, Stieglitz, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); b. Abt. 1828, Possibly Stieglitz, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified. Is location of marriage); m. (2) ANNA ROSINA BREITKREUTZ, 06 Jan 1856, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified); b. 26 Nov 1833, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. Bet. 06 Jan 1856 - 30 Jan 1857, Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia (unconfirmed but likely because of husband's remarraige); m. (3) BEATA LOUISE BREITKREUTZ, 30 Jan 1857, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); b. 06 Jun 1839, Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 08 Jun 1908, Fox Lake, Dodge County, Wisconsin.

Notes for JOHANN ZISKE: 3 Marriages (church record verified):

MARRIAGE: 1847 Feb 12: Vol 2, Page 47, Line 3. Stieglitz. The bachelor, JOHANN ZISKE, son of deceased farmer Michael Ziske from Putzig was married in the church with the young woman, LOUISE STEINKE, daughter of the deceased farmer Martin Steinke in Stieglitz. The groom was unmarried and indepependant, the bride was likewise unmarried and under guardianship. The groom is age 26; the bride is age

17 19. The religion of the bridegroom and bride is evangelisch. Consent for the bride (was given at) Schönlanke (on) 15 January 1847. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. this is Johann Ziske (Zieski) of the Fasbender Zieski group. This record is a translation by Ken Neumann. This marriage appears to have taken place in Stieglitz, the traditional location being the brides home area. The record appears in a section which includes a group of communities: Ruenau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Because the record appears to be under Stieglitz and the bride’s father could be from Stieglitz, I am inclined to believe the record is also for that community. Regardless, this is the correct marriage record. Ken Neumann adds, “Schönlanke was a major city in the region and probably had a court or judge where the bride could receive the consent to get married. Sometimes marriage records will mention a court or judge specifically, but here there is only the place and date, not precisely who gave the consent.” FHL 0808118: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1846-1847): Runau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Record likely of Stieglitz. Pictures 4952-4957 taken 8 February 2008.

+MARRIAGE: 1856 Jan 6: Page 266: Line 2: JOHANN ZISKE & ANNA ROSINA BREITKREUTZ. He is age 34, she is age 22. Married in Putzig. Johann is independent. Consent for the bridegroom [at] Schönlanke the 29th of October 1855. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Is the 2nd Marriage of Johann Ziske, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. Translation and Comments by Ken Neumann: the groom apparently needed to get some official OK since he had been married and it needed to be officially made certain that he was indeed a true widower and able to get married. Michael Breitkreutz is a “Leibgedinger”, one whom I understand to be one who is guaranteed a house and income in return for turning over his estate to the heir of his estate, usually the most senior of his children. This procedure happened to take care of retired people. Is something there that says it is not the first marriage. Yes, there is—where the first line reads “wird der Häusler Johann Ziske,”, you can note the smaller words above “Häusler Johann” which are meant to be an insert between those two words, “u. Wittwer” (“und Wittwer”, and widower). So it tells us that Johann was a widower as he enters this second marriage. FHL 0741850 Vol 3: Putzig (1855-1865). Pictures 4711-4712 taken 11 Jan 2008.

MARRIAGE: 1857 Jan 30: Page 270: JOHANN ZISKE of Putzig & BEATA LOUISE BREITKREUTZ. He is age 36, she is age 18. Married in Putzig. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Is the 3rd Marriage of Johann Ziske, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. FHL 0741850 Vol 3: Putzig (1855-1865).

18 Pictures 4713-4714 taken 11 Jan 2008.

Notes for LOUISE STEINKE: MARRIAGE: 1847 Feb 12: Vol 2, Page 47, Line 3. Stieglitz. The bachelor, JOHANN ZISKE, son of deceased farmer Michael Ziske from Putzig was married in the church with the young woman, LOUISE STEINKE, daughter of the deceased farmer Martin Steinke in Stieglitz. The groom was unmarried and indepependant, the bride was likewise unmarried and under guardianship. The groom is age 26; the bride is age 19. The religion of the bridegroom and bride is evangelisch. Consent for the bride (was given at) Schönlanke (on) 15 January 1847. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. this is Johann Ziske (Zieski) of the Fasbender Zieski group. This record is a translation by Ken Neumann. This marriage appears to have taken place in Stieglitz, the traditional location being the brides home area. The record appears in a section which includes a group of communities: Ruenau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Because the record appears to be under Stieglitz and the bride’s father could be from Stieglitz, I am inclined to believe the record is also for that community. Regardless, this is the correct marriage record. Ken Neumann adds, “Schönlanke was a major city in the region and probably had a court or judge where the bride could receive the consent to get married. Sometimes marriage records will mention a court or judge specifically, but here there is only the place and date, not precisely who gave the consent.” FHL 0808118: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1846-1847): Runau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Record likely of Stieglitz. Pictures 4952-4957 taken 8 February 2008.

Notes for ANNA ROSINA BREITKREUTZ: Sister of Beata Luise Breitkreutz. Anna first married Johann Zieski. She died. Then her sister, Beata Luise married Johann Zieski. This per Pena- Fasbender Zieske research. Fred Matson 30 Sep 2007.

+BIRTH: 1833 Nov 26: 8 Dec: Page 44: Line 10: Child: ANNA ROSINA: Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Anna Rosina Pulfuss. Father’s occupation is “Einlieger” (resident, similar to “Einwohner”). Sponsors: Johann Steinke (a Holländer) and Jungfer (young woman) Maria Elisabeth Ziemann. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is the first of the sisters that marries Johann Zieski born 1820 of the Fasbender Zieski.

19 FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Pictures 4761-4767 taken 18 Jan 2008.

Notes for BEATA LOUISE BREITKREUTZ: Beata Luise's sister, Anna Rosina died and Beata Luise married Johann Zieski.

+BIRTH: 1839 Jun 6: Bapt 9 June: Page 50: Line 5: Child: BEATA LUISE. Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Rosina Polsfuss. Father is Einlieg (resident). Sponsors: Xtoph (Christoph)Torno (an Einlieg); Frau (wife) Luise Lieske nee Torno; and Jungfer (young woman) Helena Ziemann. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is the 2nd sister who marries Johann Zieski, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Pictures 4724-4727 taken 11 Jan 2008 and 4776-4784 taken 18 Jan 2008.

CONFIRMATION: 1853 May 8: Page 164: BEATE: Age 14: Parents: Michael Breitkreutz & Rosina Polsfussen. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is the 2nd sister who marries Johann Zieski, sone of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854).

20 Picture 4715 taken 11 Jan 2008.

MARRIAGE: 1857 Jan 30: Page 270: JOHANN ZISKE of Putzig & BEATA LOUISE BREITKREUTZ. He is age 36, she is age 18. Married in Putzig. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Is the 3rd Marriage of Johann Ziske, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. FHL 0741850 Vol 3: Putzig (1855-1865). Pictures 4713-4714 taken 11 Jan 2008. iii. MARIA ZIESKI, b. Abt. 1823, Putzig, Posen, Preuben,, Prussia (unconfirmed). iv. MICHAEL ZISKE, b. 22 Apr 1826, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified); m. ANA CHRISTINA SCHUTZ, 15 Apr 1842, Putzig, Posen, Preuben,,Prussia.

Notes for MICHAEL ZISKE: BIRTH: 1826 Apr 22: Bapt 4 May: Page 30/31: Line 4: Child: MICHAEL. Father, Mich. Ziske; Mother, Ana Maria Krenz. Sponsors: Andreas Pulsfus. Pehlen Zibart & Ana Zolnen. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is Michael Ziske of Valerie Pena Zieski genealogy, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz both born about 1795. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4457-4462 taken 16 Nov 2007.

v. WILHELM ZIESKI, b. 27 Mar 1829, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified).

Notes for WILHELM ZIESKI: BIRTH: 1829 Mar 27: Bapt 28 Mar: Page 42/43: Line 8: Child: WILHELM. Father, Michael Ziske; Mother, Anna Maria Krenz. Sponsors: Christoph Muller; Anna Christina Z(L)iske. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. I believe this record is Wilhelm, son of Michael Zieski born about 1795 of Valerie's report. The date is 27 and it could be March but I am not sure of the month as it is written. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4476-4477 taken 30 Nov 2007.

21 Descendants of Michael Breitkreutz & Anna Rosina Pulseuss In-laws of Johann, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz

1 Michael Breitkreutz b: Abt. 1795 in Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia

+Anna Rosina Pulseuss b: Abt. 1796 in Prussia 2 Wilhelmine Breitkreutz b: 27 Nov 1820 in Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 28 Nov 1820 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) 2 Gottlieb Breitkreutz b: 10 May 1823 in Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 19 May 1823 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) 2 Michael Breitkreutz b: 17 Jul 1825 in Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 31 Jul 1825 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) 2 Hanna Hennriette Breitkreutz b: 05 May 1830 in Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 09 May 1830 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record). Baptism date is difficult to read.

2 Anna Rosina Breitkreutz b: 26 Nov 1833 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 08 Dec 1833 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record). Baptism date is difficult to read. d: Bet. 06 Jan 1856 - 30 Jan 1857 in Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia (unconfirmed but likely because of husband's remarraige) +[1] Johann Ziske b: 24 Dec 1820 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified) Baptism: 31 Dec 1820 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified) m: 06 Jan 1856 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) d: 01 Jan 1907 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin 2 Gottfried Breitkreutz b: 04 Nov 1836 in Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 16 Nov 1836 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record). 2 Beata Louise Breitkreutz b: 06 Jun 1839 in Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 09 Jun 1839 Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified). d: 08 Jun 1908 in Fox Lake, Dodge County, Wisconsin Children: Louisa is too young to be the mother of all children. Occupation in 1870 Census where she is in the John Zieske 1790 household, is keeping house, age 31. +[1] Johann Ziske b: 24 Dec 1820 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified) Baptism: 31 Dec 1820 Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified) m: 30 Jan 1857 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) d: 01 Jan 1907 in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin .

22 Prussian Church Record Extractions & Notes for: Descendants of Michael Breitkreutz & Anna Rosina Pulseuss In-laws of Johann, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz

1. MICHAEL2 BREITKREUTZ (EVA1 LANGEN) was born Abt. 1795 in Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia. He married ANNA ROSINA PULSEUSS. She was born Abt. 1796 in Prussia.

Children of MICHAEL BREITKREUTZ and ANNA PULSEUSS are: i. WILHELMINE3 BREITKREUTZ, b. 27 Nov 1820, Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for WILHELMINE BREITKREUTZ: +BIRTH: 1820 Nov 27: Bapt 28 Nov: Page 28: Line 2: Child: WILHELMINE. Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Anna Rosina Pulsuss. Father’s occupation (stand) is Mietseinwohner (renting inhabitant).Sponsors: holländer Johann Gehrke; jungfer (young woman) Anna Rosina Hinge; and Frau (wife) Anna Rosina Fitz nee Kroll. The record is on the 2nd line from the top. But column 1 of the line is also prefixed with the number 2. This could be the number of the household or family. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. These parents are the likely parents of Anna Rosina born 26 Nov 1833 and Beata Luise born about 7 June 1839 of Michael Zieski genealogy by Fasbender. Each married Johann Zieski born 1820. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Pictures 4508-4510 taken 14 Dec 2007

ii. GOTTLIEB BREITKREUTZ, b. 10 May 1823, Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for GOTTLIEB BREITKREUTZ: +BIRTH: 1823 May 10: Bapt 19 May: Page 32-33: Line 5. Child: GOTTLIEB: Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Rosina Pulsfuss. Occupation of father is “Einwohner” (resident or dweller). Sponsors: Andreas Giese (occupation is holländer) and Jungfer (young woman) Wilhelmine Zimman. The record is on the 5th line from the top. But column 1 of the line is prefixed with the number 2. This could be the number of the household or family. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Gottlieb is likely sibling of Wilhelmine Breitkreutz, page 28 record. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808- 1854). Picture 4511-4513 taken 14 Dec 2007

23 iii. MICHAEL BREITKREUTZ, b. 17 Jul 1825, Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for MICHAEL BREITKREUTZ: +BIRTH: 1825 Jul 17: Bapt 31 July: Page 34-35: Line 9: Child: MICHAEL: Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Anna Rosina Pulsfuss. Sponsors: junggesell (bachelor) Michael Beer, junggesell (bachelor) Christoph Schulz, and Jungfer (young woman) Beata Boehlke. The father is “Einwohner” (resident or dweller) The record is on the 9th line from the top. But column 1 of the line is prefixed with the number 2. This could be the number of the household or family. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Michael is likely sibling of Wilhelmine Breitkreutz, page 28 record. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Picture 4514-4516 taken 14 Dec 2007.

iv. HANNA HENNRIETTE BREITKREUTZ, b. 05 May 1830, Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for HANNA HENNRIETTE BREITKREUTZ: +BIRTH: 1830 May 5: Bapt 9 May: Page 40: Line3: Child: HANNA HENNRIETTE: Father, Michael Breitkreutz & Mother, Anna Rosina Pulseuss. Father’s occupation is “Mietseinwohner”. Sponsors: Erdmann Schulz, Hauländer, and Johann Xtoph (Christoph) Gerkes, Junggesell (bachelor). Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is another child of the parents whose daughters married Johann Zieski born 1820, of Valerie Pena’s Fasbender family. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Pictures 4768-4771 taken 18 Jan 2008.

v. ANNA ROSINA BREITKREUTZ, b. 26 Nov 1833, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. Bet. 06 Jan 1856 - 30 Jan 1857, Probably Putzig, Posen, Prussia (unconfirmed but likely because of husband's remarraige); m. JOHANN ZISKE, 06 Jan 1856, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified); b. 24 Dec 1820, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified); d. 01 Jan 1907, Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin.

Notes for ANNA ROSINA BREITKREUTZ:

24 Sister of Beata Luise Breitkreutz. Anna first married Johann Zieski. She died. Then her sister, Beata Luise married Johann Zieski. This per Pena- Fasbender Zieske research. Fred Matson 30 Sep 2007.

+BIRTH: 1833 Nov 26: 8 Dec: Page 44: Line 10: Child: ANNA ROSINA: Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Anna Rosina Pulfuss. Father’s occupation is “Einlieger” (resident, similar to “Einwohner”). Sponsors: Johann Steinke (a Holländer) and Jungfer (young woman) Maria Elisabeth Ziemann. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is the first of the sisters that marries Johann Zieski born 1820 of the Fasbender Zieski. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Pictures 4761-4767 taken 18 Jan 2008.

MARRIAGE: 1847 Feb 12: Vol 2, Page 47, Line 3. Stieglitz. The bachelor, JOHANN ZISKE, son of deceased farmer Michael Ziske from Putzig was married in the church with the young woman, LOUISE STEINKE, daughter of the deceased farmer Martin Steinke in Stieglitz. The groom was unmarried and indepependant, the bride was likewise unmarried and under guardianship. The groom is age 26; the bride is age 19. The religion of the bridegroom and bride is evangelisch. Consent for the bride (was given at) Schönlanke (on) 15 January 1847.

25 Note: Family Find. Fasbender. this is Johann Ziske (Zieski) of the Fasbender Zieski group. This record is a translation by Ken Neumann. This marriage appears to have taken place in Stieglitz, the traditional location being the brides home area. The record appears in a section which includes a group of communities: Ruenau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Because the record appears to be under Stieglitz and the bride’s father could be from Stieglitz, I am inclined to believe the record is also for that community. Regardless, this is the correct marriage record. Ken Neumann adds, “Schönlanke was a major city in the region and probably had a court or judge where the bride could receive the consent to get married. Sometimes marriage records will mention a court or judge specifically, but here there is only the place and date, not precisely who gave the consent.” FHL 0808118: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1846-1847): Runau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Record likely of Stieglitz. Pictures 4952-4957 taken 8 February 2008.

MARRIAGE: 1857 Jan 30: Page 270: JOHANN ZISKE of Putzig & BEATA LOUISE BREITKREUTZ. He is age 36, she is age 18. Married in Putzig. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Is the 3rd Marriage of Johann Ziske, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. FHL 0741850 Vol 3: Putzig (1855-1865). Pictures 4713-4714 taken 11 Jan 2008.

26 vi. GOTTFRIED BREITKREUTZ, b. 04 Nov 1836, Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for GOTTFRIED BREITKREUTZ: +BIRTH: 1836 Nov 4: Bapt 16 Nov: Page 46: Bottom Line: Child: GOTTFRIED: Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Anna Rosina Polsfuss. Father is an Einlieger. Sponsors: Junggesell Christoph Dams and Jungfer Henriette Gerke. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Gottfried is a brother of the sisters who marry Johann Zieski born 1820 of the Fasbender Zieski. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Pictures 4772-4775 taken 18 Jan 2008.

vii. BEATA LOUISE BREITKREUTZ, b. 06 Jun 1839, Putzighauland, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 08 Jun 1908, Fox Lake, Dodge County, Wisconsin; m. JOHANN ZISKE, 30 Jan 1857, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); b. 24 Dec 1820, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (unverified); d. 01 Jan 1907, Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin.

Notes for BEATA LOUISE BREITKREUTZ: Beata Luise's sister, Anna Rosina died and Beata Luise married Johann Zieski.

+BIRTH: 1839 Jun 6: Bapt 9 June: Page 50: Line 5: Child: BEATA LUISE. Father, Michael Breitkreutz; Mother, Rosina Polsfuss. Sponsors: Father is Einlieg (resident). Xtoph (Christoph)Torno (an Einlieg); Frau (wife) Luise Lieske nee Torno; and Jungfer (young woman) Helena Ziemann. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is the 2nd sister who marries Johann Zieski, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854). Pictures 4724-4727 taken 11 Jan 2008 and 4776-4784 taken 18 Jan 2008.

CONFIRMATION: 1853 May 8: Page 164: BEATE: Age 14: Parents: Michael Breitkreutz & Rosina Polsfuss. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. This is the 2nd sister who marries Johann Zieski, sone of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. FHL 0741850 Vol 1: Putzighauland (1808-1854).

27 Picture 4715 taken 11 Jan 2008.

MARRIAGE: 1847 Feb 12: Vol 2, Page 47, Line 3. Stieglitz. The bachelor, JOHANN ZISKE, son of deceased farmer Michael Ziske from Putzig was married in the church with the young woman, LOUISE STEINKE, daughter of the deceased farmer Martin Steinke in Stieglitz. The groom was unmarried and indepependant, the bride was likewise unmarried and under guardianship. The groom is age 26; the bride is age 19. The religion of the bridegroom and bride is evangelisch. Consent for the bride (was given at) Schönlanke (on) 15 January 1847. Note: Family Find. Fasbender. this is Johann Ziske (Zieski) of the Fasbender Zieski group. This record is a translation by Ken Neumann. This marriage appears to have taken place in Stieglitz, the traditional location being the brides home area. The record appears in a section which includes a group of communities: Ruenau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Because the record appears to be under Stieglitz and the bride’s father could be from Stieglitz, I am inclined to believe the record is also for that community. Regardless, this is the correct marriage record. Ken Neumann adds, “Schönlanke was a major city in the region and probably had a court or judge where the bride could receive the consent to get married. Sometimes marriage records will mention a court or judge specifically, but here there is only the place and date, not precisely who gave the consent.” FHL 0808118: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1846-1847): Runau, Stieglitz, Putzig and Putzighauland. Record likely of Stieglitz. Pictures 4952-4957 taken 8 February 2008.

+MARRIAGE: 1856 Jan 6: Page 266: Line 2: JOHANN ZISKE & ANNA ROSINA BREITKREUTZ. He is age 34, she is age 22. Married in Putzig. Johann is independent. Consent for the bridegroom [at] Schönlanke the 29th of October 1855.

28 Note: Family Find. Fasbender. Is the 2nd Marriage of Johann Ziske, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz. Translation and Comments by Ken Neumann: the groom apparently needed to get some official OK since he had been married and it needed to be officially made certain that he was indeed a true widower and able to get married. Michael Breitkreutz is a “Leibgedinger”, one whom I understand to be one who is guaranteed a house and income in return for turning over his estate to the heir of his estate, usually the most senior of his children. This procedure happened to take care of retired people. Is something there that says it is not the first marriage. Yes, there is—where the first line reads “wird der Häusler Johann Ziske,”, you can note the smaller words above “Häusler Johann” which are meant to be an insert between those two words, “u. Wittwer” (“und Wittwer”, and widower). So it tells us that Johann was a widower as he enters this second marriage. FHL 0741850 Vol 3: Putzig (1855-1865). Pictures 4711-4712 taken 11 Jan 2008.

29 Descendants of Michael Zieske & Anna Christina Schulz Primary Bloedow-Strasburg Zieske Ancestors

1 Michael Zieske Born: 30 Nov 1816 in Kreis Czarnikasa Posen Pruiszen (unverified) Died: 06 Jan 1886 in Brown County, MN . +Anna Christina Schulz Born: 31 Mar 1821 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 08 Apr 1821 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Sponsors: Gottlieb Beutler, Ana Maria Zellmern Schalmen. Married: 15 Apr 1842 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Died: 03 Sep 1899 in Brown County, MN .... 2 John Christopher Zieske Born: 20 Dec 1842 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 08 Jan 1843 in Putzig, Posen, Prussia (church record) Sponsors: Johann Ziebarth & Luise Beutler. Died: 29 Dec 1917 in Home, Sleepy Eye, Brown County, Minnesota ...... +Mary Strassburg Born: 16 Nov 1847 in Radowitz, Prussia, Germany Married: 17 Sep 1867 in Nicollet County, Minnesota Died: 30 Jun 1911 in Home, Sleepy Eye, Brown County, Minnesota .... *2nd Wife of John Christopher Zieske: ...... +Lillian Mallette Born: in Brown County, MN Married: 03 Sep 1912 .... 2 Frederick Gottfried Zieske Born: 09 Jan 1845 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 19 Jan 1845 in Putzig, Posen, Prussia (verified) Sponsors: Gottlieb Beutler & Anna Rosina Jastnmisk (or such). Died: 16 Dec 1923 in Soldiers' Home, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota ...... +Augusta Richter Died: 03 Sep 1898 .... 2 Anna Susanna Zieske Born: 14 Jan 1847 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 17 Jan 1847 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Died: 17 May 1853 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) .... 2 Johann Augusta Zieske Born: 25 Jun 1849 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 01 Jul 1849 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Johann Christoph is Baptism name on record. Died: 03 Jul 1849 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Johann Augusta Zieske is name at death. .... 2 Julia Anna Zieske Born: 28 Jul 1850 in Prussia (church record being researched) ...... +William Fredrick Strasburg Born: 1841 .... 2 Wilhelmina Ernestine Zieske Born: 09 Mar 1853 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 28 Mar 1853 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Died: 08 Jan 1933 in Home, Sleepy Eye, Brown County, MN ...... +Daniel Moll Born: 27 Aug 1841 in Weilheim, Wittenburg, Germany Married: 07 Dec 1870 in Courtland, Nicollet County, Minnesota Died: 16 Jan 1923 in Sleepy Eye, Brown County, Minnesota .... 2 Augusta Henriette Zieske Born: 13 Jan 1856 in Wisconsin Died: Aft. 08 Jan 1933

30 ...... +Peter Majewski Born: 20 Jun 1850 in Ratesin, Posen, Prussia Married: 11 Mar 1874 in Nicollet County, Minnesota .... 2 Friedrich Wilhelm Zieske Born: 18 May 1858 in Wisconsin Died: 04 Apr 1881 .... 2 Mary A. Zieske Born: 29 Jun 1860 in Wisconsin Died: 1918 ...... +William Mellinthin Born: 05 Jun 1858 in Germany Married: 31 Aug 1881 in Brown County, Minnesota .... 2 August Frank Zieske Born: 15 Aug 1862 in Wisconsin Died: 27 May 1897 ...... +Sabine S. Nagel Born: 06 Jul 1863 in Denmark Married: 27 May 1885 in Brown County, Minnesota Died: 1951 .

31 Prussian Church Record Extractions & Notes for: Descendants of Michael Zieske & Anna Christina Schulz Primary Bloedow-Strasburg Zieske Ancestors

1. MICHAEL2 ZIESKE (JOHANN1) was born 30 Nov 1816 in Kreis Czarnikasa Posen Pruiszen (unverified), and died 06 Jan 1886 in Brown County, MN. He married ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ 15 Apr 1842 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record), daughter of ANDREAS SCHULZ and SUSANNA ZIBART. She was born 31 Mar 1821 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record), and died 03 Sep 1899 in Brown County, MN.

Notes for MICHAEL ZIESKE: MARRIAGE: 1842 Apr 15: Page 292/293: MICHAEL ZIESKE & ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ. Groom’s father is Johann Zieske of Ascherbude. He is a Häusler (owner of a cottage). The Bride’s father is (deceased Häusler) Andreas Schulz of Putzig. The marriage is in Putzig church. Other Translation Indicates: Michael, probably a bachelor, may have been living with his parents at the time; someone other than Anna’s deceased father apparently is listed as giving permission for her to marry. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is very likely the Marriage of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz of Otto Bloedow’s ancestry. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4502, 4503, 4504, 4505, 4506 taken 7 Dec 2007

Notes for ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ: BIRTH: 1821 Mar 31: Bapt 8 Apr: Page 8: Line 24: Child: ANNA CHRISTINA. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Susanna Zibart. Witnesess: Gottlieb Beutler; Ana Maria Zellmern Schalmen. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. this is the birth of Anna Christina Schulz, wife of Michael Zieske born 1816 of Otto Bloedow’s family. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Picture 4561-4563 taken 14 Dec 2007

MARRIAGE: 1842 Apr 15: Page 292/293: MICHAEL ZIESKE & ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ. Groom’s father is Johann Zieske of Ascherbude. He is a Häusler (owner of a cottage). The Bride’s father is (deceased Häusler) Andreas Schulz of Putzig. The marriage is in Putzig church. Other Translation Indicates: Michael, probably a bachelor, may have been living with his parents at the time; someone other than Anna’s deceased father apparently is listed as giving permission for her to marry. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is very likely the Marriage of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz of Otto Bloedow’s ancestry. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4502, 4503, 4504, 4505, 4506 taken 7 Dec 2007

32 Children of MICHAEL ZIESKE and ANNA SCHULZ are: i. JOHN CHRISTOPHER3 ZIESKE, b. 20 Dec 1842, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 29 Dec 1917, Home, Sleepy Eye, Brown County, Minnesota; m. (1) MARY STRASSBURG, 17 Sep 1867, Nicollet County, Minnesota; b. 16 Nov 1847, Radowitz, Prussia, Germany; d. 30 Jun 1911, Home, Sleepy Eye, Brown County, Minnesota; m. (2) LILLIAN MALLETTE, 03 Sep 1912; b. Brown County, MN.

Notes for JOHN CHRISTOPHER ZIESKE: Putzig birth record shows birth date as Deceumber 20, 1842. Family record per Otto Bloedow materials shows birth day fo 25 Dec 1842.

BIRTH: 1842 Dec 20: Bapt 8 Jan 1843: Page 98/99: Line 1: Child: JOHANN CHRISTOPH. Father-Michael Ziske, Mother-Ana Christina Schulz. Sponsors: Johann Ziebarth & Luise Beutler. (Baptism may be 8 Jan 1843) Note: Family Find. Bloedow. I believe this is Johann C. Zieske, son of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz born 1821. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4488-4491 taken 30 Nov 2007.

ii. FREDERICK GOTTFRIED ZIESKE, b. 09 Jan 1845, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 16 Dec 1923, Soldiers' Home, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota; m. AUGUSTA RICHTER; d. 03 Sep 1898.

Notes for FREDERICK GOTTFRIED ZIESKE: BIRTH: 1845 Jan 9: Bapt 19 Jan: Page 118/119: Line 4: Child: GOTTFRIED. Father-Michael Ziske, Mother-Anna Christina Schulz. Sponsors: Gottlieb (Gottlob) Beutler & Anna Rosina Jastrimsky. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is likely Frederick Gottfried, son of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz born 1821. This record information is supplemented by the duplicate record found at FHL 0808117 where the record and witness names are much clearer. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4492-4497 taken 30 Nov 2007. Duplicate record: FHL 0808117 Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1844-1845): Putzig. Pictures4815-17 taken 25 Jan 2008.

iii. ANNA SUSANNA ZIESKE, b. 14 Jan 1847, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 17 May 1853, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for ANNA SUSANNA ZIESKE:

33 BIRTH: 1847 Jan 14: Bapt 17 Jan: Vol 2, Page 40, Line 1. Child: ANNA SUSANNA. Father, Michael Ziske; Mother, Anna Christina nee Schulz. Sponsors: Gottlob Beutler; Wilh. Beutler; and Wilhel. Zibart. This event is in Putzig. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is the third child of these parents. This is Michael Zieske of the Bloedow Zieske group. Family record had her born 1841, same day. There is no record in Putzig for the period and the year is before the marriage of her parents. It is possible that a German written 7 was mistaken for a 1. FHL 0808118: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1846-1847): Putzig Pictures 4899-4909 taken 1 February 2008.

DEATH: 1853 May 17: Putzig: Page 248, Line 21. ANNA SUSANNA ZISKE, age 6 years, 4 months, and 4 days. Father, Michael Zieske (Zeiske); Mother, Anna Christina nee Schulz. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. this is the death of the third child of these parents. This is the girl born 14 Jan 1847 who was thought to have been born in 1841. To our knowledge this is the last family event prior to leaving for America. FHL 0808124: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1853-1854): Putzig Pictures 4964-4965 taken 8 Feb 2008.

iv. JOHANN AUGUST ZIESKE, b. 25 Jun 1849, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 03 Jul 1849, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Johann Augusta Zieske is name at death..

Notes for JOHANN AUGUST ZIESKE: BIRTH:1849 Jun 25; Bapt 1 Jul: Putzig: Page 29, Line 21. Child: JOH. CHRISTOPH. Father-Michael Ziske, Mother-Anna Christina Schulz. Sponsors: Gottlieb Beutler, Wilhelm Ziske and Anna Ziebarth. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is very likely the child known to the Bloedow family as Johann Augusta Zieske. The birth and death date from Bible records and this church record concur. The child’s name at birth, in this record, is clearly written as noted: Joh. Christoph. Who is Wilhelm Ziske? Michael’s father is Johann Zieske. Wilhelm is likely Michael’s brother or uncle. FHL 0808120: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1849): Putzig. Pictures 4685-4687 taken 11 Jan 2008.

DEATH:: 1849 Jul 3: Putzig: Page 35, Line 18. Death of JOH. AUGUST ZISKE, 7 days old. Father-Michael Ziske, Mother-Anna Christina Schulz. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is the death of Joh. Christoph born 25 June 1849. In this record, the middle name is as family believes: Augusta

34 or August. Since the first son was Johann Christoph, it is likely this son is Joh. August. FHL 0808120: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1849): Putzig Pictures 4688-4689 taken 11 Jan 2008.

v. JULIA ANNA ZIESKE, b. 28 Jul 1850, Prussia (church record being researched); m. WILLIAM FREDRICK STRASBURG; b. 1841. vi. WILHELMINA ERNESTINE ZIESKE, b. 09 Mar 1853, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 08 Jan 1933, Home, Sleepy Eye, Brown County, MN; m. DANIEL MOLL, 07 Dec 1870, Courtland, Nicollet County, Minnesota; b. 27 Aug 1841, Weilheim, Wittenburg, Germany; d. 16 Jan 1923, Sleepy Eye, Brown County, Minnesota.

Notes for WILHELMINA ERNESTINE ZIESKE: BIRTH: 1853 March 9; Bapt 28 March. Page 245, Line 12. Child: WILHELMINE ERNESTINE. Father, Michael Ziske; Mother, Anna Christina Schulz. Sponsors: Wilhelmine Ziebarth; Joh. Michael Zibarth; Gottlieb Beutler. Note: Family Find. this is the 7th child of these parents of the Bloedow Zieske group. She is the last child born in Prussia before the family comes to America. This girl marries Daniel Moll born 27 August 1841. FHL 0808124: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1853-1854): Putzig Pictures 4962-4963 taken 8 Feb 2008.

vii. AUGUSTA HENRIETTE ZIESKE, b. 13 Jan 1856, Wisconsin; d. Aft. 08 Jan 1933; m. PETER MAJEWSKI, 11 Mar 1874, Nicollet County, Minnesota; b. 20 Jun 1850, Ratesin, Posen, Prussia. viii. FRIEDRICH WILHELM ZIESKE, b. 18 May 1858, Wisconsin; d. 04 Apr 1881. ix. MARY A. ZIESKE, b. 29 Jun 1860, Wisconsin; d. 1918; m. WILLIAM MELLINTHIN, 31 Aug 1881, Brown County, Minnesota; b. 05 Jun 1858, Germany. x. AUGUST FRANK ZIESKE, b. 15 Aug 1862, Wisconsin; d. 27 May 1897; m. SABINE S. NAGEL, 27 May 1885, Brown County, Minnesota; b. 06 Jul 1863, Denmark; d. 1951.

35 Descendants of Andreas Schulz & Susanna Zibart Parents of wife of- and in-laws of Michael Zieske

1 Andreas Schulz Born: Abt. 12 Mar 1790 Died: 12 Jan 1842 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified with likely church record death) . +Susanna Zibart Born: Bef. 1806 .... 2 Johan Michael Schulz Born: 20 Mar 1819 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: Aft. 20 Mar 1819 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Died: 06 Aug 1819 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record). Per duplicate record, 24 Aug 1819 is date of death. .... 2 Anna Christina Schulz Born: 31 Mar 1821 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 08 Apr 1821 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) Sponsors: Gottlieb Beutler, Ana Maria Zellmern Schalmen. Died: 03 Sep 1899 in Brown County, MN ...... +Michael Zieske Born: 30 Nov 1816 in Kreis Czarnikasa Posen Pruiszen (unverified) Married: 15 Apr 1842 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Died: 06 Jan 1886 in Brown County, MN .... 2 Anna Rosina Schulz Born: 05 Jun 1823 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 08 Jun 1823 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) .... 2 Unnamed Infant Schultz Born: 05 Feb 1825 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (no birth record available) Died: 05 Feb 1825 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) no age given, maybe born dead. .... 2 Michael Schulz Born: 28 Sep 1827 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 07 Oct 1827 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified) .... 2 Anna Susanna Schulz Born: 09 Nov 1829 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) Baptism: 01 Dec 1829 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified).

36 Prussian Church Record Extractions & Notes for: Descendants of Andreas Schulz & Susanna Zibart Parents of wife of- and in-laws of Michael Zieske

1. ANDREAS1 SCHULZ was born Abt. 12 Mar 1790, and died 12 Jan 1842 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (verified with likely church record death). He married SUSANNA ZIBART. She was born Bef. 1806.

Notes for ANDREAS SCHULZ: DEATH: 1842 Jan 12: Page 226: ANDREAS SCHULZE, age 51, 10 months. No parents listed. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. this is likely the father of Anna Christina Schulz, wife of Michael Zieske born 1816. Andreas is born on or very close to 12 March 1790. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4555-57 taken 14 Dec 2007.

Children of ANDREAS SCHULZ and SUSANNA ZIBART are: i. JOHAN MICHAEL2 SCHULZ, b. 20 Mar 1819, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 06 Aug 1819, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record). Per duplicate record, 24 Aug 1819 is date of death..

Notes for JOHAN MICHAEL SCHULZ: BIRTH: 1819 Mar 20: bapt ?: Vol 4, page 95. Child: JOHANN MICHAEL. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Anna Susanna Zibart. Sponsors: Gottlieb Beutler; Martin Jastrimümke; Anna Maria Zolmer Schalm. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This child is a brother of Anna Christine Schulz who married Michael Zieske born 1816 of the Bloedow Zieske. This is the child boy who dies 6 Aug 1819. FHL 0808104: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1815-1819): Putzig Picture 4821 taken 25 January 2008

DEATH: 1819 Aug 6: Page 158-159: JOHAN MICHAEL. Age ½ year. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Anne Suzanna. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. from the birth of Anna Christina, and with the likelihood that the mother, Anna Suzanna is Anna Suzanna Zibart, these parents are confirmed to be the parents of Anna Christina Schulz, wife of Michael Zieske born 1816. This Johan Michael would be a brother of Anna Christina Schulz. Per separate record, he is born 20 March 1819. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4525-4526 taken 14 Dec 2007.

37 Duplicate Record: 1819 Aug 24: Page 96: Putzig: Johan Michael: Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Anna Susanna Zibart. Child is 5 months and 2 or 3 days old. FHL 0808104: Czarnikau Mixed Parishes (1815-1819): Putzig Picture 4824 taken 25 January 2008

ii. ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ, b. 31 Mar 1821, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); d. 03 Sep 1899, Brown County, MN; m. MICHAEL ZIESKE, 15 Apr 1842, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record); b. 30 Nov 1816, Kreis Czarnikasa Posen Pruiszen (unverified); d. 06 Jan 1886, Brown County, MN.

Notes for ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ: BIRTH: 1821 Mar 31: Bapt 8 Apr: Page 8: Line 24: Child: ANNA CHRISTINA. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Susanna Zibart. Witnesess: Gottlieb Beutler; Ana Maria Zellmer Schalm. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. this is the birth of Anna Christina Schulz, wife of Michael Zieske born 1816 of Otto Bloedow’s family. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Picture 4561-4563 taken 14 Dec 2007

MARRIAGE: 1842 Apr 15: Page 292/293: MICHAEL ZIESKE & ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ. Groom’s father is Johann Zieske of Ascherbude. He is a Häusler (owner of a cottage). The Bride’s father is (deceased Häusler) Andreas Schulz of Putzig. The marriage is in Putzig church. Other Translation Indicates: Michael, probably a bachelor, may have been living with his parents at the time; someone other than Anna’s deceased father apparently is listed as giving permission for her to marry. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is very likely the Marriage of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz of Otto Bloedow’s ancestry. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4502, 4503, 4504, 4505, 4506 taken 7 Dec 2007

Notes for MICHAEL ZIESKE: MARRIAGE: 1842 Apr 15: Page 292/293: MICHAEL ZIESKE & ANNA CHRISTINA SCHULZ. Groom’s father is Johann Zieske of Ascherbude. He is a Häusler (owner of a cottage). The Bride’s father is (deceased Häusler) Andreas Schulz of Putzig. The marriage is in Putzig church. Other Translation Indicates: Michael, probably a bachelor, may have been living with his parents at the time; someone other than Anna’s deceased father apparently is listed as giving permission for her to marry.

38 Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This is very likely the Marriage of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz of Otto Bloedow’s ancestry. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4502, 4503, 4504, 4505, 4506 taken 7 Dec 2007 iii. ANNA ROSINA SCHULZ, b. 05 Jun 1823, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for ANNA ROSINA SCHULZ: BIRTH: 1823 Jun 5: Bapt 8 Jun: Page 18, #24: Child: ANNA ROSINA. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Anna Susanna Zibart. Sponsors: Simon Zellmer and Susanna Krüger. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This girl is very likely a sister of Anna Christine Schulz who married Michael Zieske born 1816 (Bloedow Zieske). Susanna Krüger has the first (given) name of this child’s mother’s middle name. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4792-4796 taken 18 Jan 2008 iv. UNNAMED INFANT SCHULTZ, b. 05 Feb 1825, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (no birth record available); d. 05 Feb 1825, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record) no age given, maybe born dead..

Notes for UNNAMED INFANT SCHULTZ: DEATH: 1825 Feb 5: Page 170-171: #24: UNNAMED child. No age. Possibly born dead. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Susanna Zibart. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. from a find of birth of Anna Christina, these are fairly well confirmed to be also the parents of Anna Christina Schulz, wife of Michael Zieske born 1816. Anna’s mother is Susanna Ziebart per that record. The number 24 at the beginning of the row, could be household number. For this record, 24 is the same number as a birth by the same parents on 5 June 1823, Anna Rosina. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4527-4529 taken 14 Dec 2007

v. MICHAEL SCHULZ, b. 28 Sep 1827, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for MICHAEL SCHULZ: BIRTH: 1827 Sep 28; bapt 7 Oct: Page 36/37, Line 15. Child: MICHAEL. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Susanna Zibart. Sponsors: Gottlieb Beutler; Anna Maria Zellmer.

39 Note: Family Find. Bloedow. This Michael is a brother of Anna Christina Schulz who married Michael Zieske born 1816 of the Bloedow Zieske group. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4840-4842 taken 25 Jan 2008. vi. ANNA SUSANNA SCHULZ, b. 09 Nov 1829, Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia (church record).

Notes for ANNA SUSANNA SCHULZ: BIRTH: 1829 Nov 9; bapt 1 Dec: Vol 2, Page 44-45, Line 19: Child: ANNA SUSANNA. Father, Andreas Schulz; Mother, Anna Susanna Zibart. Sponsors: Johann Zellmer; Anna Elisabeth Beutler. Note: Family Find. Bloedow. this child is a sister of Anna Christine Schulz who married Michael Zieske born 1816 of the Bloedow Zieske family group. FHL 0741850 Vol 2: Putzig (1818-1845). Pictures 4843-4844 taken 25 Jan 2008; 4910-13 taken 1 February 2008.

40 Arndt (Arnd) Family Search

9 Feb 2008 (updated 2 Mar 2008)

This paper proposes that an Arndt family in America, (ARND in Prussia) has a Zieske connection in both America and Prussia and may, in fact, be the link that connects our Zieske groups. [2 Mar 2009 note: this paper is now under review as of 2 March 2009. There is for certain an Arndt connection. But the Civil War Veteran, Frederick Arndt may not be who we propose he is by birth record. The child born 10 March 1846 in Putzig may have died in Putzig. However, the connection and relationship between Frederick Arndt, the Civil War Veteran, to Zieske is real in the USA. Only the birth and baptism location, date and parents are in question.]

The Facts and the Hunches.

Fact: Anna Christina Schulz was born to Andreas Schultz & (Anna) Susanna Zibart, in Putzig, on 31 March 1821. Sponsors are Gottlieb Beutler; and Ana Maria Zellmern Schalmen.

Fact: Gottfried Ziske is born to Michael Ziske & Anna Maria Krentzen on 3 August 1818. Sponsors are Christoph Müller and Anna Maria Zibart.

Fact: Michael Zieske born 1816, on 15 April 1842, married Anna Christina Schulz born 31 March 1821, Putzig, in Putzig. Michael’s father, Johann Zieske is living in Ascherbude at the time. Anna’s father, Andreas Schulz, of Putzig, is deceased.

Hunch Fact: Michael Zieske born 1816 had a brother, Gottlieb Zieske.

Fact: A Gottlieb Zieske & Anna Rosina Arnd had a child, Michael, born 26 Sep 1846 in Ascherbude. Sponsors are Henriette Zieske; August Zieske; and Wilhelm Lubitz. Ascherbude is 8-9 km northwest of Putzig.

Fact: This Gottlieb Zieske & Anna Rosina Arnd also had another child, Wilhelmine, born 28 Feb 1844 in Ascherbude. The sponsors are Rosina Blüm; Louisa Zieske and Wilhelm Lübitz.

Hunch Fact: The child, Michael born 26 Sep 1846, born to Gottlieb Zieske & Anna Rosina Arnd, is very likely our Michael Zieske born 26 Sep 1847 who married Wilhelmina Sonnenberg, per family record.

Hunch: This Gottlieb Zieske’s wife, Anna Rosina Arnd, also had a brother whose name is Johann Arndt.

Hunch: Anna Rosina Arnd’s brother, Johann, married and that couple had a child, Frederick Arnd.

41 Fact: Frederick Arndt, Civil War Veteran, came to America with his parents at age 9 (about 1855) and they settled on a farm near Princeton, Wisconsin. Later, the family moved to Beaver Dam, Wisconsin.

Fact: Frederick Arndt was born 6 March 1846 in Germany per his death certificate. He died 26 July 1916 in Courtland, Nicollet County, MN. His military record states he was born in Prussia. His father is John. Actually, Putzig church record has this Frederick Arndt born in Putzig on 10 March 1846. Parents are: Joh Gottfried Arndt & Christina Herzberg.

Fact: Frederick Arndt served in the U. S. Civil War from Wisconsin in the same Company D as Michael Zieske (Siskey is his military name) born 1846 or 1847. Frederick Arndt is listed as born in Prussia in military record and born in Germany per his obituary. Both Frederick and Michael have Princeton, WI as their residence.

Fact: Frederick Arndt the Civil War Veteran married Fredericka Schauhardt in 1869 in Wisconsin per his Minnesota obituary. They were likely married in the Fox Lake-Beaver Dam, Dodge county area. But we have no record of the location.

Fact: Frederick Arndt & Fredericka Schauhardt had a child, Fred G. Arndt, born 11 December 1878 in Wisconsin. Fox Lake, Dodge County is his native home per his obituary. Other children of this couple in 1880, Trenton twp, Dodge cty, WI are: Augusta age 13; Emma age 9; Anna age 7; Clara age 5; and Christian age 2.

Fact: Frederick Arndt, wife, Frederica and family moved to near Cambria, Blue Earth County, Minnesota. This area is just (you can walk over or swim) across the Minnsota River from Courtland, Nicollet County, MN where Michael Zieske born 1846/1847 and Michael Zieske born 1816 lived. Michael Zieske 1816’s sons, John and Frederick Gottfried, also Civil War Veterans also lived in the immediate area.

Fact: On January 11, 1908, In Sleepy Eye, Brown County, Minnesota, Fred G. Arndt born 11 December 1878, married Helen Zieske, granddaughter of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna Christina Schulz. This is an Arndt family marriage into Zieske.

Fact: A Christ Arndt of Courtland, MN is the informant for the death certificate for Frederick Arndt born 6 March 1846 in Germany and died 26 July 1916 in Courtland, MN. This Christ Arndt is likely the eldest son and as such also a brother of Fred G. Arndt.

42 Here is a possible genealogy of these facts and hunches known to date:

Johann Zieske of Ascherbude (name of father of Michael Zieske 1816) m. Mother Zieske 1. Michael Zieske born 1816 m. Anna Christina Schulz born 1821 in Putzig (her father is Andreas Schulz, mother is Anna Susanna Zibart) 1. Frederick Gottfried Zieske b. 1845 in Putzig m. Augusta Richter 1. Helen Zieske born 1879 in Courtland, MN m. Fred G.Arndt born 1878 in Wisconsin, probably Dodge county 2. Gottlieb Zieske (person exists, is a hunch that he is a brother of Michael 1816) m. Anna Rosina Arnd (these are verified parents of this boy, whoever he is) a. Michael Zieske born 26 Sep 1846 in Ascherbude (record found) m. Wilhelmenia Sonnenberg (she fits if we have the correct Michael) Christian Arnd m. Mother (name unknown) 1. Anna Rosina Arnd m. Gottlieb Zieske 1. Michael Zieske born 26 Sep 1846 in Ascherbude m. Wilhelmenia Sonnenberg 2. Joh. Gottfried Arndt (known parents of this Frederick Arndt born 1846) m. Christina Herzberg 1. Frederick Arndt born in Putzig as Fredrich Wilhelm m. Frederica Schauhardt (married in Wisconsin) 1. Fred G. Arndt born 1878 in Wisconsin, probably Dodge county m. Helen Zieske born 1879 in Courtland, MN

Discussion. If this genealogy is correct, then the elusive Michael Zieske born 1847’s parents have been found and the nephew/uncle relationship between he and Michael Zieske born 1816, is established. IF.

Additionally, if some connection can be established between the Beaver Dam Township, Dodge County, Wisconsin “Fasbender” Zieske family group and the Fred Arndt family group who also lived in that area in Trenton Township, Dodge County, Wisconsin, very near by, then that may further demonstrate at least one way how our Zieske families are connected.

43 More Information that may Support the Possibility.

1. Fred Arndt Sr. born 6 or 10 March 1846 Obituary.

Obituary: Last Saturday afternoon the remains of Fred Arndt, Sr., father of Fred Arndt and Mrs. F. E. Beech of this city, were laid at rest in the cemetery near Courtland. The good man who had suffered for ten months with spinal trouble, which the various agencies of medical skill had been unable to cure, passed to the Great Beyond Wednesday evening, July 26th, at his home at Courtland.

The deceased was born (6 March 1846) in Germany seventy years ago, he emigrated (sic) to America with his parents at the age of nine years, settling on a farm near Princeton, Wis., later they moved to Beaver Dam, in the same state. In 1869 Mr. Arndt was married to Miss Fredericka Schauhardt, who still survives him. In 1887 the family moved to Minnesota, settling near Cambria and living there until ten years ago when the aged couple moved to Courtland to spend their declining days at ease. Eleven children were born to this estimable couple, four of whom are dead. Those living are: Mrs. F. E. Beech and Fred Arndt of Sleepy Eye, Mrs. Elmer Pavey of Oakfield, Wis., Mrs. Wm. Stobbs of Ogilvie, Minn., Mrs. Ira Chapman, living near here and Chas. And Jennie Arndt of Courtland. The Herald-Dispatch joins in expressing sympathy to the bereaved children in the loss of their noble and loving father.

Published in the Sleepy Eye Herald-Dispatch, Sleepy Eye, MN, August 4, 1916, front page, column 2.

Note: While the obituary does not acknowledge his Civil War Veteran status, this clearly is the Civil War Veteran, Frederick Arndt who served with Michael Zieske out of Wisconsin.

Fred Arndt Sr.’s death certificate states that he was born 6 March 1846. His father is John Arndt, born in Germany. The name and birth location of the mother is listed as “don’t know”. Christ Arndt of Courtland, likely a son, is the informant. Per the Putzig Church Record, Fred Arndt Sr. was born in Putzig on 10 March 1846. His father is Joh. Gottfried Arndt; his mother is Christina Herzberg.

2. Fred G. Arndt born 1878 Obituary.

Fred G. Arndt lived in Sleepy Eye, MN for many years. He married into the Southern Minnesota Zieske group. Here is his obituary found by Otto Bloedow and Otto’s comments. The Fred G. Arndt of Sleepy Eye married a daughter, Helen Zieske, of Frederick Gottfried & Augusta (Richter) Zieske:

44 Services for Fred Arndt to Be Saturday

Fred G. Arndt, 83, for many years a resident of Sleepy Eye, passed away at Methodist hospital in St. Louis Park Tuesday. He had been a patient since fracturing his hip in a fall two weeks ago.

Friends may call at Schwartz funeral home after 3 p.m. Friday. Keystone lodge members will meet at Masonic Temple at 8 p.m. Friday and will conduct a service at the funeral home at 8:30.

Services at the E.U.B. church will be Saturday at 1:30 p.m. and burial will be in Home cemetery. The body will be taken to the church Saturday at 11 a.m.

A native of Fox Lake, Wisconsin, he was born December 11, 1878. As a child he moved with his parents to Cambria. In his youth he moved to Sleepy Eye and lived here until six years ago when he became a resident of the Masonic Home at Savage.

He was married in Sleepy Eye January 11, 1908, to Helen Zieske who passed away in 1944. Two children were born to this union, Gordon, who passed away in 1948, and Lucille (Mrs. Ed. Raverty) Sleepy Eye.

He also leaves a daughter-in-law, Mrs. Helen Arndt of Minneapolis and two sisters, Mrs. Fred Schribner, Puyallup, Washington, and Mrs. Clara Stobb at Bethany home, Braham.

Deceased was a member of Sleepy Eye Labor Society and the Fireman’s relief association. He was a former member of the Sleepy Eye fire department.

Published in the ?. Handwriting “May 1, 1962” Obituary furnished by Marjorie Jean [Zieske] Meyer, March 16, 2002.

(Otto’s Comments) Fred,

Cambria is next to Courtland-This is how he would have met Helen. Lucille was first cousin to my mother-and they were close. Wish I had spoken with her more. She was in the know.

MN Death Certificate Record Information: Arndt, Frederick G., born 11 Dec 1878; Out of State; Mother Maiden Name: na. Certificate # 1962-MN-007605, died 1 May 1962, Hennepin County, MN.

This is the Fred Arndt that married Great Grandpa Fred Zieske's daughter, Helen.

3. Fred Arndt born 6 or 10 March 1846 and son, Fred G. Arndt lived in Dodge County, WI in 1880.

45 Fred Arndt Sr. age 34, and family are in Trenton twp, Dodge cty, WI in 1880. A William Arndt appears to be next door, is six years younger and could be related as sibling or other. Son, Frederick age 1 is with the Fred & Frederica Arndt family. Both parents (and their parents) and 1 child, Augusta age 13, are listed as born in Prussia.

Fred G. Arndt of Sleepy Eye, MN, per the above Obituary, is a native of Fox Lake, Dodge County, Wisconsin and born on 11 Dec 1878. This census record, while for Trenton Township isn’t inconsistent. Trenton Township is adjacent to Fox Lake Township and area residents would likely say they were from the area Village of Fox Lake or from the Fox Lake (lake) region.

4. Frederick Arndt Inconsistencies Addressed.

46 Is Fred Arndt age 34 in the Wisconsin, Dodge County, Trenton Township Census for 1880 the Frederick Arndt who served in the Civil War and with Michael Siskey (Zieske)? Very likely.

However, there are some problems with drawing this conclusion.

Age 34 of the Fred Arndt in the 1880 Wisconsin Census fits perfectly with what would be the age of the Civil War Veteran Frederick Arndt in 1880. But the 13-year old daughter, Augusta, is a problem because she is listed in the 1880 Wisconsin Census as born in Prussia. Their next child, Emma, is born in Wisconsin and she is age 9 in 1880.

What might explain this? We know that Frederick Arndt the U. S. Civil War Veteran first came to the United States with his parents about 1855 at age nine. His 13-year old daughter may be recorded incorrectly in the 1880 USA Census as born in Prussia. Or, the child could be the mother’s by another father and that both the mother, Frederica and daughter, Augusta, were in Prussia about 1867 and came to America with or without this other husband/father who maybe died. Or, after the U. S. Civil War, Frederick Arndt could have returned to Prussia, married and then returned again to the United States with his wife and child, Augusta, sometime before the next child is born in Wisconsin in about 1871. It is also possible that Fred Arndt married the widow of a fellow Civil War Veteran who died in the war. And, their no doubt could be other explanations.

Our concern here is not whether Frederick Arndt’s daughter, Augusta, was born in Prussia, or, whether Frederick Arndt’s wife, Frederica, was married prior. But rather, we are concerned whether we have the correct Frederick Arndt, Civil War Veteran who ultimately ends up living and dying in Cambria and Courtland, Minnesota. I believe we have the correct man and the correct family. And from his obituary, where it says he marries “Miss Fredericka Schauhardt” in 1869, it appears also that she had no prior marriage.

5. A Christian F. Arndt and Family are in Minnesota in 1905.

Here, below, in 1905, in Minnesota, Goodhue County, Hay Creek is Christian F. Arndt age 59. This man could be a brother, even twin, of Fred Arndt who married Frederica, parents of Fred G. Arndt. Note the names of Christian & Mary Arndt’s girls (Anna, Emma, Clara) and compare them to the girl names (Emma, Anna, Clara) in the above record for Fred & Frederica Arndt.But we have no proof of relationship, only the record.

47 6. Fredrick Arndt Age 1 of Wisconsin in 1880 is Likely Fred G. Arndt of Minnesota.

Is Fred Arndt age 1 in Dodge County, Wisconsin in 1880, son of Fred & Frederica Arndt, the Fred G. Arndt of Sleepy Eye, Minnesota? Very likely, yes.

Here is the record for Fred Arndt Sr.age 59 and wife, Frederika age 59, with son, Fred age 29 in the 1905 Minnesota Territorial Census, Nicollet County, Courtland:

The younger and older Freds are of the correct age and Fred Sr.’s wife is Frederika in both Wisconsin 1880 Census and Minnesota 1905 Census and her age is also correct.

The record shows that the younger Fred was born in Germany. But that error could be recorder error, or, assumption since both parents are born there. We are certain we have the correct Fred G. Arndt in 1905.

The younger Fred is also listed as a Brakeman for occupation. Fred Sr. is a farmer. This Fred Arndt Sr. is the Civil War Veteran, Frederick Arndt, born 6 or 10 March 1846 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia.

Conclusion: This establishes a Zieske-Arndt family relationship in America; it does not yet establish such in Prussia.

The Minnesota Arndt family described is the Arndt family of the 1880 Wisconsin Census for Dodge County, descendants of the U. S. Civil War Veteran, Frederick Arndt (Fredrich Wilhelm Arndt) born 10 March 1846 in Putzig, Czarnikau, Posen, Prussia to Joh.Gottfried Arndt & Christina Herzberg. Whether this Arndt family knew or were friends with the Dodge County Fasbender Zieski and other of their relatives remains to be seen.

48 The Wilhelm Zieske Discussion 14 January 2008

Ken, Valerie, Otto:

In studying the Wilhelm Zieske issue, I have detected an apparent family relationship in Putzig records. This new relationiship also leads to a possible (unproven) resolve of our Wilhelm Zieske issue.

In my latest Progress Report, Volume 2, Putzig Births: From the Putzig Births I have recorded, I believe I have detected a family relationship. The two birth/baptism records that relate are listed below in paragraphs #1 and #2.; the third discussion relevant to this is the Email from Ken Neumann that introduced his Wilhelm Zieske. That information is at paragraph #3.below the two birth/baptism records. These are included below as references should you want to know more.

Bear in mind that it can be dangerous, without further supporting evidence, to assume that a name seen twice in different records is the same person.

Here is the family situation as I see it: Two fathers in my Volume 2, Putzig Births appear to be brothers: Michael Ziske & Gottlieb Ziske. A third man, Christoff Müller, appears as a witness/godparent for at least one child of each of the (presumed) brothers. A Gottlieb Ziske is a witness/godparent of one of Christoff Müller's children; a Michael Ziske appears as a witness/godparent of another of Christoff Müller's children. Also, but not as clear, an Anna Christina Z(L)iske listed as a co-witness/godparent for a child of Michael Ziske & Anna Maria Krenz, along with Christoff Müller, could be Anna Christina Koplin (Koppliner), wife of Gottlieb Ziske. This Anna Maria Posehnen (or such), could be a sister of Michael Ziske & Gottlieb Ziske. Not all children have been identified. There are other witness/godparents.

The parents we are talking about are: Michael Ziske & Anna Maria Krenz; Gottlieb Ziske & Anna Christina Koplin (er); and Christoff Müller & Anna Maria Posehnen (or such). In other words, Michael Ziske & Anna Maria Krenz are Valerie's ancestors and, by deduction, Gottlieb Ziske could be a brother of Michael Ziske. Now that the apparent relationships have been pointed out, if you quickly review my Putzig Births records you will yourself begin to see what I described.

Continuing. Michael Ziske & Anna Maria Krenz children names are: Gottfried (1818); Johann (1820); Maria (1823); Michael (1826); and Wilhelm 1829). So far, we know four (4) of the children names of Gottfried Ziske & Anna Christina Koplin(er): Eva Rosina (1824); Johan Gottlieb 1827); Wilhelm (1831); and Wilhelmine (1834), but not necessarily complete.

Here is the possible Wilhelm Zieske I see: We do not yet have any evidence of Wilhelm born 1829 to Michael Ziske & Anna Maria Krenz, past birth/baptism. He may have died as an infant and a second Wilhelm born. I will attempt to find that answer

49 in the microfilm. There also may be more brothers in this Ziske family I have created and those brothers may also have had a Wilhelm. However, based on what we have at this time, the Wilhelm born 1831 to Gottfried Ziske & Anna Christina Koplin(er) is a candidate to be the Wilhelm Zieske who Ken Neumann is tracking.

The year and age would be correct for this Wilhelm born 1831. However, we currently have no link back to a specific location in Germany or Prussia for Wilhelm Zieske who lived in McLeod County, MN and ultimately died in Ida Township, Douglas County, MN.

But lets say we get the death record and the parents are Gottfried Ziske & Anna Christina Koplin(er). This would then answer the question of who John Zieski born 1864 (Valerie's Zieski) came to in Minnesota and why. If all the above were correct and true, then Wilhelm Zieske of McLeod and later Douglas County, Minnesota and Johann Zieski born 1820, father of John Zieske born 1864, would have been 1st cousins. And John Zieske born 1864's relationship to Wilhelm Zieske of Minnesota would have been one generation removed, 1st cousin, once removed, with John Zieske being the younger. In a close extended family relationship a cousin is a cousin and you are all family.

I propose that this will ultimately be the picture of our solution to our Wilhelm Zieske issue. But before we can conclude this we need to trace Wilhelm Zieske of Minnesota back into Prussia.

I am very interested in your thoughts about this...... at your convenience.

Fred Matson references below:

************************************************ Records and Information to support the above discussion: ************************************************

1. Birth of Wilhelm Zieski, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz:

/43: Line 8: 1829: born 27 March; bapt. 28 March. Child: Wilhelm. Father- Michael Ziske, Mother Anna Maria Krenz. Sponsors: Christoph Muller; Anna Christina Z(L)iske. Note: I believe this record is Wilhelm, son of Michael Zieski born about 1795 of Valerie's report. The date is 27 and it could be March but I am not sure of the month as it is written. Pictures 4476-4477 taken 30 Nov 2007.

2. Birth of Wilhelm Zieske, son of Gottlieb Ziske & Anna Christine Koplin:

50 Page 48/49: Line 2: 1831: Born 14 Feb, Bapt. 20 Feb: Child: Wilhelm. Father-Gottlieb Ziske, Mother-Anna Christine Koplin. Sponsors: Elizabeth Ziske & Christoph Müller. Pictures 4480-4481 taken 30 Nov 2007; 4705-4707 taken 11 Jan 2008.

3. Wilhelm (William) Zieske b. ca 1831-1835, in Germany. Birth date and place and Parents unknown.

Thanks for your reply. You wrote 21 Dec 2007—

Howard Zieske. Yes, a Zieske connection is possible.

. . . This northern Minnesota Zieske group was in other areas too, but so far as in Minnesota, only Northern Minnesota. So, Orr is a distinct possibility. . . . If that family can connect somehow back to Hubbard county or other I have mentioned, then there could be a family link. If you can provide me with some ancestry of the Zieske person you have then I could check it against what I have for our northern Minnesota Zieske. If the family came from one of those areas in Wisconsin I mention then they could be a descendant of either the southern or northern Minnesota Zieske I have. Check out the Lisko-Zieske part of our WEB site and see if anything there clicks. http://www.norhemian.com/0630zieske002.html Maybe point your Zieske person to the WEB page. These pages describe our quest connect families and our connection to Prussia and Putzig.

Fred, I checked with the link you provided, and I didn’t see any conclusive connection as yet. But there is mention of a Wilhelm Zieske, b 27 Mar 1829, Putzig, to the Michael Zieske and Anna Maria Krenz b ca 1795. The Wilhelm Zieske I found is just a couple or more years off of the date. In 1880 and 1885 he is said to be b ca 1832, while in 1870 and 1875 censuses he is b ca 1835. But the family I found seems to be off by themselves without any other Zieskes in the neighborhoods they inhabited.

Since I wrote I managed to find the families from 1870 on to close to the present time. Interestingly, they even resided in the main county I am researching in MN, Stearns County, from at least 1905 to 1930. That’s where they hooked up with my WIEWEL connection. But they especially lived in McLeod and Douglas Counties. After doing a lot of the key research, I found some good detailed listings for the family on Ancestry.com One World (about 4 submitters put the names there including Roberta Zieske and Vicki Steen). I’ll give you the descendants of the

51 oldest family I’ve found so far, and see if you can run with that to connect them up with any other Zieskes. Later, I’ll give you some of the sources such as census records, death records, and possible emigration record that may be helpful too in completing the picture. So here’s the family—

1. Wilhelm (William) ZIESKE, b. ca 1831-1835, GER. [Posen ? ]. He married Wilhelmina BURK, 17 Feb 1867, in Hutchinson (McLeod) MN, b. 20 May 1843, GER. (Pommern), d. 15 Feb 1926, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN. Wilhelm died 18 Feb 1891, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN.

Children:

i Albert ZIESKE, b. 1867, McLeod Co., MN, d. 11 Mar 1891, Litchfield (Meeker) MN.

ii Emma ZIESKE, b. 3 Sep 1869, McLeod Co., MN. She married Julius Reinhard LINSER, 31 May 1887, in Ebenezer Ch., Ida Twp (Douglas) MN, b. 11 Oct 1854, Bromberg, POS, PRU. Emma died 15 Apr 1962, Douglas Co. Hosp., Douglas Co., MN.

2. iii Frederick (Fred) Wm. ZIESKE b. 24 May 1872.

iv Herman Henry ZIESKE, b. 4 Sep 1874, Hutchinson (McLeod) MN. He married Hilma ANDERSON, 17 Sep 1901, in Alexandria (Douglas) MN, b. 11 Sep 1883, Litchfield (Meeker) MN, d. 1953. Herman died 1937, N. DAK. ?.

v Minna ZIESKE, b. 18 Oct 1876, Hutchinson (McLeod) MN. She married Knute Nelson LEE, 12 Jul 1891, in Ida Twp (Douglas) MN, b. May 1848, NOR. Minna died 15 Feb 1926, MN.

vi Rosalina ZIESKE, b. 31 Jan 1880, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN. She married Herman MILLER, 24 Nov 1899, in Alexandria (Douglas) MN, b. May 1878, GER. Rosalina died bef 1962.

vii Louisa B. ZIESKE, b. 16 May 1883, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN. She married Herman Otto KEMMITZ, 27 Oct 1903, in Alexandria (Douglas) MN, b. 11 Nov 1880, WI. Louisa died 7 Dec 1964, MN.

Second Generation

2. Frederick (Fred) Wm. ZIESKE, b. 24 May 1872, McLeod Co., MN. He married Alta FLEET, 25 Nov 1892, in Acoma (McLeod) MN, b. 25 Dec 1870, MN, d. 3 Jun 1958, Carlton Co., MN. Frederick died 30 Jun 1921, Hennepin Co., MN.

52 Children:

i William ZIESKE, b. 22 Aug 1893, Ida Twp. (Douglas) MN. He married Lena SPAETH.

ii Jessie ZIESKE, b. 17 Sep 1894, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN, d. 15 May 1901, Alexandria (Douglas) MN.

iii Georgia ZIESKE, b. 28 Dec 1896, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN. She married Unknown WHEATLEY, in Greenwald (Stearns) MN. Georgia died 20 Jan 1918, Ramsey Co., MN.

iv Herta ZIESKE, b. ca 1902, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN, d. bef 1905, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN.

v Frederick (Fred) K. ZIESKE, b. 7 Sep 1904, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN, d. 24 Jan 1973, St. Louis Co., MN.

vi Alice ZIESKE, b. ca 1906, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN, d. bef 1910, Stearns Co. (?) MN.

3. vii Howard Roosevelt ZIESKE b. 17 Jul 1906.

viii Edwin ZIESKE, b. ca 1908, Ida Twp (Douglas) MN, d. bef 1910, Stearns Co. (?) MN.

Third Generation

3. Howard Roosevelt ZIESKE, b. 17 Jul 1906, Greenwald (Stearns) MN. He married Rosa (Rose) WIEWEL, 7 Nov 1933, in St. Boniface Ch., Melrose (Stearns) MN, b. 5 Dec 1905, MN ? Out of state?, (daughter of Henry WIEWEL and Wilhelmine DICKMANN / DEIKMAN) d. 24 Jun 1989, Douglas Co., MN. Howard died 16 May 1993, Alexandria (Douglas) MN.

Children:

i Rose Wilhemina ZIESKE, b. 11 Aug 1934, Renville Co., MN.

ii Louis Joseph ZIESKE, b. 16 May 1938, Stearns Co., MN.

As you can see, there is not much very specific about the origins of Wilhelm. However, for Wilhelmina Burk, his wife, apparently she is known to have come from Pommern (no town mentioned).

53 There is one Family Tree on Ancestry.com that seems to think that the one emigration record I found that seems to fit is the right one—“DSBurtch” family tree. The emigration happened in 1853, as follows—

Wilhelm Zieske [Ziske] Arrival Date: 2 Dec 1853 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Age: 22

Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: Ohio Place of Origin: Preusen Ship Name: Universe

Port of Arrival: New York Line: 9 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_134 List Number: 1221

So he is about the right age. The one odd thing is the destination of Ohio, but often German emigrants headed for Ohio and then continued on from there to points west. Apparently, William went on to Illinois for a while too, for he served in the Civil War with the 12 th Illinois Cavalry, Companies F and B, for a length time of service (4 years, 5 mo., 21 days) from 7 Oct 1861 to 28 March 1866. He applied for Pension and is listed in the list for Ida Township, Douglas Co., MN. He had the rank of private, despite his lengthy service, and his disability was said to be “Sun Stroke”. His alias name was William Claka.

I don’t find him in the 1860 census, but maybe he is in Illinois that year. I didn’t check for him yet. He no sooner gets out of the service, and he winds up in McLeod County, MN, where he gets married the next year (17 Feb 1867). His family and he are found after that on the census records, as follows—

** 1870 census- Hutchinson, PO Rocky Run, McLeod, MN- p 5 (or 212); enum. 11 July ; house 38; fam. 40

Zieske, William- 35- Farmer- 1200- 200- PRU; Wilhelmina, 27-Keeping house- PRU; Albert- 2- MN; Emma- 10/12- MN

** 1875 census- Hutchinson, McLeod, MN- p. 156

William Ziesky, 40- PRU; Minnie, 31, PRU; Albert, 7, MN; Emma, 5; Freddy, 3 ; Herman, 0; Friederika Burk, 68, PRU.

** 1880 census- Ida, Douglas, Minnesota; Page: 425B; ED 8; enum. 12 June

William Ujiske 48 Farmer- PRU. ; Wilhelmine Ujiske 37 Wife- PRU [Ujiske = Zieske ; cf. 1885 census ]

Albert Ujiske 13 MN - Works on farm ; Emma Ujiske 11 Fredurick Ujiske 8 Herman Ujiske 6

Minna Ujiske 4 Rosa Ujiske 4M

** 1885 census- p. 277- Ida, Douglas, MN- Wm. Zieske, 53 <1832>, Ger. & Wilhe.42; Albert- 17 <1867>; Emma- 15 ;

54 "Treat" [Freat?= Fritz?] Zieske- 13 <1872>; Herman 11 ; Minnie 9 ; Rosaline 5 ; Louisa 2

** 1895 census- Ida, Douglas, MN- p. 165 -

Fred Zieski, 23- MN - 23-2 [US & ED] - Farmer ; Alta- 24; Willie, 2; Jessie 9/12

[listed just after ] Wilhelmina Zieski- 52 [no emig. dates or res.]; Herman, 20; Rosalina, 15; Louisa- 12

** 1900 census- Ida, Douglas, Minnesota; Page: 7B; ED 38.- enum. 19 June

Fredrick Zeiskei 28 - May 1872- M- 8 MN- Ger-Ger.- Farmer- O[wn] M[ortg.] F[arm]

Alta Zeiskei 29 - Dec 1870- M-8- 3-3- MN- PA- PA

William Zeiskei 6 - Aug 1893- MN ; Jessy Zeiskei- Dtr.- 5 - Sept 1894- MN ;

Georgia Zeiskei - Dtr.- 4 - Dec 1895- MN

** 1905 census- Melrose, Ward 1, Stearns, MN- p. 212; enum. 9th June ; #997-1001

Ziesky, Fred- 33 <1872>- MN-Ger.-Ger.- Wheat inspector; Ziesky, A.-34-MN-PA-PA ;

--, W.- 11, MN; -- , J.- 9 ; --, F.- 9/12-MN

** 1910 census- Grove, Stearns, Minnesota; Page: 8B; ED 140; enum. 30-2-3 April-May

Fred Zieske 38 M1-18- MN - Ger- Ger.- Laborer- Lumber yard- O[wn] F[ree] - H[ouse]

Alta Zieske 37 M1-18-5-4- MN - PA - PA - None [should really say 8 children, 4 living ]

William Zieske 17 MN - MN- MN - Clerk - Lumber yard

Georgea Zieske - Son [sic]- 15 MN - Clerk- Grain elevator

Fred Zieske 6 Howard R Zieske 4 MN

** 1920 census- Greenwald, Stearns, MN- Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 189;

Fred ; Altha; Fred K.- 15 ; and Howard R. 13 [Fred Sr.= ] Grain Buyer- Own elevator

** 1930 census- Greenwald Village, Stearns, Minnesota; Page: 2B; ED: 20; enum. 16 April

Alta Zieske 58 Wd- MN- PA- PA- Housekeeper- Private family- O[wn] - $2500

Frederick K Zieske 25 S - " MN-MN -Manager- Elevator;

Howard R Zieske 23 S - MN-MN-MN- Laborer-Elevator

I noticed under Herman’s descendants that some of them wind up in Heil, N.Dakota, and some of the other families go in various places in North Dakota. Howard Zieske and his wife Rose (nee Wiewel) even though they were in Orr, MN, in 1977 wind up dying in Douglas County. They had one child in Renville County too, which maybe gets closer to your family.

These are probably the key names and connections. Hopefully, you can link up somehow with these, although I don’t see the names there. When one checks Ancestry.com there seems to be a lot of people working on this family.

Anyway, all the best, and I hope you can find out something further about Wilhelm and his origins.

Ken Neumann

56 Fasbender & Neumann Wilhelm Zieske: One & the Same Family? 12 Jan 2008 with updates

Is Wilhelm Zieske born about 1831 of Douglas County, Minnesota the brother of Johann Zieski born 1820 whose parents are Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz born about 1795, Putzig? If he is not a brother, maybe he is a relative? [13 Jan 2009: Wilhelm Zieske & Johann Zieski are very likely 1st cousins and their fathers, brothers, if they are not brothers, also a strong possibility.]

Note: NEW = newly added or modified report information, not necessarily newly found information.

John Zieske born 1864 in Wisconsin, son of Johann Zieski, moved to Minnesota and married a Minnesota born girl, Hattie Baker. Hattie’s family was based in Penn Twp, McLeod County.

John Zieske could have come to the Wilhelm Zieske family in Hutchinson Twp, McLeod County, MN. This is the Zieske who is an ancestor of Ken Neumann and that Zieske branch. Follow the chronology below and draw your own conclusions. The southern Minnesota Zieske group appears not to have had contact with the John Zieske & Wilhelm Zieske families although they lived reasonably close by.

The Josiah Baker family and the Wilhelm Zieske family lived within two townships of each other in McLeod County. Townships are normally 6 miles by 6 miles. It was a minimum of 12 miles and a maximum of 24 miles between their farms. The Josiah Baker family stays in Penn Twp, McLeod County, MN.

The Wilhelm Zieske Family moves from Hutchinson Twp, McLeod County, northwest to Ida Twp, Douglas County sometime after their last child was born in McLeod County in 1876 and before their next child in January 1880. They gathered land in Douglas County, ultimately 400 acres by 1886. They may have lived at yet another unknown location before Ida Township, Douglas County.

Between 1875 and 1880, Harriet Baker moves in with her sister and husband in Sumter Twp. At that point, there is only Hassan Valley Township between her and the Wilhelm Zieske family in Hutchinson twp: minimum of six miles, maximum of 18 miles.

In 1884, we see the marriage of John Zieske and Harriet Baker in Todd County, 90 miles north of the Baker home in Penn Twp, McLeod County; 45 miles east of Alexandria and Douglas County and the Wilhelm Zieske home. Harriet’s sister, Catherine and husband, William N. Arnold are Sponsors. In the 1885 Minnesota Census, the William N. Arnold family resides in Eagle Valley Township, Todd County, MN, the general site of the 1884 marriage.

A map is attached to summarize Family migration in Minnesota.

57 Facts to consider (from my research and yours, chronological order):

1781-1795: Fasbender: Michael Zieski [1781] & Anna Maria Krenz [1795] estimated birth in Prussia. Grandparents of Johann Zieski born 1864.

1820: Fasbender: Johann Zieski born 24 Dec 1820 in Putzig, brother of a Wilhelm born 27 March 1829, lived and died in Dodge County, WI.

1829: Fasbender: Wilhelm Zieski, son of Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz, was born 27 March 1829 in Putzig. He is a brother to Johann Zieski born 24 Dec 1820 in Putzig. These are verified records.

1831: Neumann: Estimated birth year for Wilhelm Zieske of Minnesota, Mc Leod and Douglas counties: ship record shows is Age 22 on 2 Dec 1853.

1853: Neumann: Wilhelm Zieske [Ziske] arrived in USA 2 Dec 1853. Estimated Birth at time is 1831, age 22. Port of Departure is Liverpool, England. Destination, Ohio. Origin is Preusen. Ship Name, Universe. Port of Arrival, New York.

1860: Fasbender: Johann Zieski born 1820 and his 3rd wife, Beata Louise Breitkreutz live in Dodge County, Wisconsin per census.

1860: Fasbender: Harriet Baker was born in Jordan township, Scott County, MN on 15 May 1860. She later becomes the wife of John Zieske born 28 April 1864 in Wisconsin to Johann Zieski & Beata Louise Breitkreutz.

1861: Neumann: 7 October. Wilhelm Zieske begins service in the U. S. Civil War.

1864: Fasbender: Johann Zieski & Wife, Beata Luise Breitkreutz gave birth to son, John Zieski (Zieske), born 28 April 1864 in Dodge County, Wisconsin.

1864: 1870: Bloedow: Zieske group migrated from Marquette & Green Lake County, Wisconsin, settled in Nicollet and Brown Cty, MN. Nicollet county's north border is two townships (12 miles) from south border of McLeod county and Penn Twp.

1866: Neumann: Wilhelm Zieski ends military service on 28 Mar 1866 in Illinois. He served in the 12th Illinois Cavalry, Company F and B.

1867: Neumann: Wilhelm Zieski marries 17 Feb 1867, in McLeod County, MN to Wilhelminia Burk, age 27 (born about 1840), each born in Prussia per 1870 Census. Wilhelm left the military, moved to Minnesota where he does not appear to have lived prior and married in less than 1 year.

1870: The Bloedow and Lisko Zieske groups are in Lafayette & Courtland Twp of Nicollet County, MN in 1870 U. S. Census.

58 1870: Neumann: Wilhelm Zieske 35 & Wilhelmina 27 both born in Prussia, in 1870 Census in Hutchinson Twp, P. O. Rocky Run, McLeod County, MN. Children: Albert 2; Emma 10/12, both born in Minnesota. He has real estate and personal property value. 160 acres: 8 acres improved, 152 unimproved. There are no Burk or Baker families in Hutchinson Twp at this time. [13 Jan 2009: Census age is not always dependable. Wilhelm is known to have died in 1891 at age 59.]

1870: Fasbender: Harriet Baker, wife of John Zieske born 1864 is with her parents in Penn Township, McLeod County, MN in 1870.

1875: Fasbender: Harriet Baker, age 15, wife of John Zieske born 1864 is with her father, Josiah Baker, and brother, Jay age 2 in Penn Township, McLeod County, in MN 1875 Census. Her mother is absent, and is likely deceased.

1875: Fasbender: Harriet Baker’s sister, Catherine is likely married and living next door to her parents. The census count is next entry down on census from Josiah Baker.

1875: Neumann: 1 May 1875 Census. William Ziesky 40, wife, Minnie 31 are in Hutchinson Twp, McLeod County. Children are: Albert 7; Emma 5; Freddy 3; Herman 0. Also with them is Friederika Soek (Burk?) 68. At the same time, a Thomas Baker family is also in Hutchinson Twp.

1880: Neumann: 12 June census. Wilhelm Zieske and wife, Wilhelminia and children are in Ida Twp, Douglas County, Minnesota. They left McLeod County earlier. First child born in Douglas County, Ida Twp is 31 January 1880, Rosalina per Neumann records.

1880: Fasbender: Lucia H (Hattie). Baker, census date 28-29 June, is living with her sister and brother-in-law in Sumter Twp, Village of Lake Addie, McLeod County, MN. She is age 20 and is a domestic servant. Her sister is Catherine and brother- in-law is William Arnold, carpenter. Lake Addie (lake) is right outside current day Brownton, MN. Lake Addie Village was apparently a twin Village with Brownton, MN. Sumter Twp is on the north of Penn Twp.

1880: Fasbender: Josiah Baker, father of Hattie Baker is in Penn Twp, McLeod County, MN. Hattie Baker is not here.

1882: Fasbender: Valerie Pena picture said to be of John Zieske age 18. Backside, the photographer, N. Hassan, from Glencoe, Minnesota. Glencoe village is in Glencoe Twp, McLeod County, MN. Just northwest of Glencoe by 3 miles is Hassan Valley Township. Hutchinson Twp borders Hassan Valley Twp on the north. Whatever the age, this picture places John Zieske in the area of both the Josiah Baker and Wilhelm Zieske families at some time prior to his marriage to Hattie Baker. [13 Jan 2009: This is a key piece of evidence that could connect Wilhelm Zieske of McLeod and Douglas

59 counties, Minnesota and John Zieske born 1864, as either uncle/nephew or 1st cousins, once removed (where John’s father and Wilhelm are 1st cousins).

1884: Fasbender: John Zieski born 1864, having migrated to Minnesota earlier, married Lucia Harriet "Hattie" Baker at Clarissa, Eagle Valley Township, Todd County on 10 July 1884 at age 22 per Fasbender record. Her sister, Catherine and husband, William N. Arnold are the Sponsors.

1885: Fasbender: Josiah Baker, father of Hattie Baker is in Penn Twp, McLeod County, MN in 1885 with son, Jay. Hattie Baker is not here. Josiah Baker has new wife, Jane S. and apparent stepdaughter, Daisy.

1885: Fasbender: on May 23, 1885, John Zieske age 22 born in Wisconsin, is with the Maria Baker Family in Penn Twp, McLeod County, without his wife, Hattie Baker. Maria Baker has no husband listed and she is listed first. Her youngest child is age 7. This record (Household 76) is close to John’s father-in-law and family (Household 88) in the census and on adjoining census pages. We now have evidence of John Zieske born 1864 being in this area in about 1882 (the picture by N. Hassan) and in 1885.

1885 Fasbender: Where is Hattie Baker? The wife of John Zieske is not with her husband. At the May 1885 Minnesota census she would be about 4 months into her pregnancy with Ruby Isabel. Hattie could be in someone’s care and not necessarily in McLeod County or Minnesota. She could also be in Wisconsin with John Zieske’s parents. Or, back east with other Baker family. They were married 10 July 1884.

1885: Fasbender: on 30 May 1885, William N. Arnold & wife, Catherine are in Eagle Valley Twp, Todd cty, MN. Children: Hattie b. abt 1876; Jeanette b. abt 1878; Leonard b. abt 1880; and Mable b. abt 1883. Catherine Arnold is Hattie Baker’s sister.

1885: Fasbender: on 17 Oct 1885, Ruby Isabel Zieske is born to John Zieske & Hattie Baker.

1885: Neumann: In May, Wilhelm Zieske 53 (born about 1832) & wife, Wilhelmenia 42, both born in Germany, are in Douglas County, Ida Twp near Alexandria, MN with children: Albert 17; Emma 15; Freat/Fritz? 13; Herman 11; Minnie 9; Rosalin 5; Louisa 2. Also with them is a John Rolling age 34 born in Germany.

1886 Wilhelm Zieske & Wilhelmenia have land in their names: Ida Township, Douglas County, MN. Ida Township Section 30 NE1/4 (160 acres owned by Wilhelm Zieske); Section 20 (160 acres carved out of the middle, Wilhelmina Zieske, owner); and Section 20 (S1/2 of SE1/4, 80 acres,Wilhelm Zieske, owner).

60 1891: Neumann: Wilhelm Zieske dies at age 59, on 18 February 1891 while resident of Douglas County, Ida Twp. This Wilhelm Zieske served in the 12th Illinois Cavalry in the Civil War.

1895: Fasbender: John Zieske born 1864 & wife, Hattie Baker are residenced in Hubbard Twp, Hubbard County, MN. This county and township is north of Ida twp., Douglas county by about 50 miles.

1900: Fasbender: John Zieske born 1864 & wife, Hattie Baker are residenced in Hubbard Twp, Hubbard County, MN

1910: Fasbender: In 1910, John Zieske born 1864 & wife, Hattie Baker and children are in Wheatland twp, Cass cty, ND.

1920: Fasbender: John Zieske born 1864 & wife, Hattie are in Fossum Twp, Norman County, MN

1930: Fasbender: John Zieske born 1864 & wife, Hattie are in Fossum Twp, Norman County, MN

1935: Fasbender: John Zieske born 1864 died 28 Oct 1935 while residence of Faith, Fossum Twp, Norman County, MN.

1954: Fasbender: Hattie (Baker) Zieske died on 9 March 1954 in Spokane, Spokane County, Washington.

61 This is a map of Minnesota taken from a Minnesota township map book. The very large numbers are page numbers in the book. They can be used for reference for our purpose. The southern MN Zieske group is at South 31(Green); Bakers at NE 31 (Blue); Wilhelm Zieske started at SE 39 (Red) and moved to NE 44; John Zieske born 1864 married Hattie Baker (Blue) at SE 53 (Blue/Black) and they moved to SE 61 and then SE 69 where he died. They were in Wheatland Twp, Cass County, North Dakota just west of Fargo, ND in 1910, then back to SE 69.

62 Is there a Pulsfuss connection between our Zieske/Zieski? 19 Dec 2007

Note: Special endings “en” and “in” were removed from this discussion and records on 23 April 2008. These suffixes should be omitted when one is expressing the German record contents in English. I also replaced the capital “S” from names and replaced it with a lower case “s”. What appears to be a capitalized “S” in the German records is just another ”s”, For my own notes, I tried to express what I observed ( a large or capitalized “S”). This is unnecessary.

Per Email:Valerie Pena to Fred Matson, 19 Dec 2007

“Is this Johann Liske(Zieske) of the Fasbender Zieski group part of Otto Bloedow’s Zieske line? Somehow these families must be connected. My Johann of 20 Dec 1820 was married to two Brietkreutz women whose mother was an Anna Rosina Pulseuss (Pulsfuss a different spelling but the same?) But who was this Johann father of Gottfried? Do we know who his (Johann’s) father was? Not mine because he was only 5 yrs younger than Gottfried. But could they be cousins? I have the feeling that the key to our connections must be in an earlier film record before the 1800's and likely in the same church.” END.

Valerie raises a good point. And I have some observations to add. Look at the two pictures (next page) from these Putzighauland records. The first picture is the left side of the full record, the second is the right side.

63 64 Record 1. On the left side (top picture), note the record that is 6th from the bottom (line #17) of this picture and where Johann Liske & Anna Elizabeth Pulsfuss are parents of Gottfried born 5 May 1825. The right side of this record is the lower picture where near middle top you see the names (witness/godparents) Martin Hinz and Martin Beutler & Ana Justina Hanelt nee Beutler.

Record 2. Two lines (records) lower on both pictures we have at what appears to be line #2, Michael Breitkreutz & Ana Rosina Pulsfuss, parents of Michael born 17 July 1825. On the right side of this record (lower picture), we see Sponsors Michael Beer, Christoph Schulz & Beata Boehlke.

As Valerie says, her Johann born 1820 (whom we tracked from Wisconsin to Minnesota) married two Breitkreutz women whose mother was likely this Ana Rosina in record 2. Valerie says that the boy born in Record 1 is not likely of her family.

Therefore, if Anna Elizabeth in Record 1 and Ana Rosina in Record 2 are sisters, then we have a potential Zieske family link provided we can figure out where Record 1 fits in Otto’s Zieske family. The Pulsfuss surname is the key. And, of course, is Liske just another spelling or handwriting for Zieske, Ziske or such.

There are two more names in these records that I keep seeing in Ziske related records: Beutler and Schulz. Beutler, I have seen as sponsors in other records of Otto’s Bloedow Zieske family; Schulz is, of course, relevent to Otto’s Zieske family (wife of Michael Zieske born 1816) and now here also a Schulz witness with Valerie’s Zieski family (Record 2).

We have to be careful about jumping to conclusions on surnames. But each surname witness is worth pursuing. This Putzig-Putzighauland area is not densely populated. It is entirely possible that everyone is related to everyone by blood or through marriage.

Schulz: By age and year, this Christoph Schulz that sponsors the Breitkreutz/Pulsfuss birth in Record 2 above, could easily be a brother or even father of Andreas Schulz, who is the father of Anna Christina Schulz who is wife of Michael Zieske born 1816 of Otto’s Bloedow Zieske family. Bear in mind that Andreas Schulz is from Putzig and Christoph Schulz appears to be from Putzighauland. So, either way we have Schulz in each parish.

Beutter: This Beutler surname is curious and has been for some time. It appears often with Otto’s Bloedow Zieske family at Anna Christina Schulz’s birth in 1821 (Putzig) and then births of her children with Michael Zieske born 1816, those children born in 1842 and 1845, both Putzig.

If Lieske, Zieske or such in Volume 1: Putzighauland could be family, then, from the records in this report, here are some combination of names to consider that appear frequently in Putzighauland. The birth year is in parens if available.

65 Peter Lieskie, father & mother, Louise Torno of Child: Johann Friedrich (1835); Wilhelmine (1837); Henriette 1841; Beata Luise (1844); Wilhelmine Ernestine (1846); Auguste (1848); Wilhelm (1850; Pauline (1852);

Peter Sieske, father & mother, Anna Catherina Buetler: Sponsors of a child (1833)

Ludwig Lieske, father & Anna Louise Schulz, mother of Child: Ludwig (1838); Anna Rosina (1842); Wilhelmine 1845);

Christian Schulz, father & Juliane Lieske, mother of Child: Augusta Wilhelmine (1845);

Gottlieb Lieske, father & Wilhelmine Beutler, mother of Child: August Wilhelm (1849); Augusta Wilhelmine (1851);

Wilhelm Sonnenburg, father & Hennriette of Westphal, mother of Child: Gustav Adolph (1850). This surname is that of Dianne Matson’s great grandmother, wife of Michael Zieske born 1847.

Valerie raises a good point that the answer may be in an earlier generation. Reviewing earlier microfilm is in my plans after I get a better grip of this film.

Fred Matson 19 Dec 2007

66 Review and Observations 18 December 2007 With updates

We are searching the correct communities. We have the correct microfilm 0741850. But we may need other microfilm to supplement our research later. [13 Jan 2009: the key supplement microfilm is the series 0808104-125].

Putzig and Putzighauland are 4 km apart. These are separate parishes. Putzighauland is closer to the City of Czarnikau and so far as I can determine, in earlier days, Putzig was of Pommerania Province and Putzighauland of Posen Province. [13 Jan 2009: this is speculation]. Each was of the Czarnikau kreis, however. The county must have been split for whatever reason, probably war. If accurate, then this helps explain where one spouse in family was born in Pommern and the other in Posen. They were next door to each other.

If we assume minimal migration, Valerie Pena’s Zieski family is based in Putzig. At the same time, it appears that Johann, son of Michael Zieski [13 Jan 2009: born 1781] & Anna Maria Krenz born about 1795, married into the Breitkreutz family which appears to be based in Putzighauland. Johann married (his second marriage) their daughter Anna Rosina first, she died, and then he married Anna’s sister, Beata Luise. This Johann Zieski is the father of the man (John Zieske born 1864 in Wisconsin) I tracked from Wisconsin to northern Minnesota and ultimately connected with Valerie. [as of 11 July 2008, we also know that Johann Zieski’s first marriage [In Stieglitz on 12 Feb 1847] was to Louise Steinke of Stieglitz.]

Otto’s Zieske family appears to have a base of Ascherbude, northwest of Putzig. Johann Zieske, father of the groom is of that community at the time of his son’s marriage. But the marriage of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna Christina Schulz took place in Putzig in 1842. Anna’s father, Andreas Schulz, deceased at the time of the wedding, is of Putzig where we appear to have found his death record. That places Anna Christina in Putzig. It is in Putzig where Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna Christina Schulz begin their lives together and have their Prussian born children before coming to America, Wisconsin, first, then southern Minnesota.

So, we have the two key Zieske (or such) families based in Putzig and with at least one with some tie also to Putzighauland. Yet we have no apparent clues to link our Zieske families in any way. [as of 11 July 2008, we have linked Michael Zieske born 1816 and Michael Zieske born 1846/47 as uncle/nephew.] We also have no clue of the birth of Michael Zieske in 1847. [as of 11 July 2008, Michael Zieske’s birth is found and verified to be in Ascherbude in 1846, not 1847]

I have yet to view Volume 3 of this film. It begins in 1855. [Vol 3 is Putzighauland for 1855-65. It has been reviewed, initially]

67 Analysis of 7 December 2007 Microfilm Review and observations to date:

RE: Putzig record, 1843 Bapt 9 July, Child Juliane: Father: Gottfried Ziske & Mother- Ana Rosina PoSehn. This could be Gottfried Zieski born about 1817 of Valerie Pena’s Fasbender family. This record is between January 1843 and December 1844. The age makes sense. But this is not the only Gottfried or Gottlief Ziske or Zieske or such I have seen. So, have to be careful. All could be related however.

I have to review my earlier findings. Events I thought taking place in Gruenfier may have been in Putzig. Or, maybe Gruenfier was a part of Putzig at the time. Very close by but appear to be different parishes at the time. The records appear to run into each other.

The first child, Anna Susanna, of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz may have been of a different marriage, before marriage, or, just of a different father. I have to revisit the microfilm for this period again. However, Posen Listers advise that the marriage record states that she was Jungfrau at time of marriage. As such they advise she would have had no children before and maybe no relationships. So, it remains, where does Anna Susanna Zieske fit in as we believe she was born 14 January 1841? [verified later that Anna Susanna Zieske was born in 1847, not 1841]

In reviewing deaths, Ziske is not as common as births. Ziske don’t die, I guess. I found only one Ziske (Michael Ziske died 6 Oct 1831 at age 50), or, any spelling of Ziske in the death records for about a 15 year period. Ziske could be a new name to the Putzig area. We know that Johann Zieske, father of Otto’s Michael Zieske born 1816 (husband of Anna Christine Schulz) was from Ascherbude (today, Biernatowo) at time of marriage of son, Michael Zieske & Anna Christine Schulz. Very close to Putzig. But we also know of Valerie Pena’s Fasbender Michael Ziseki and wife, Anna Maria Krenz believe born about 1795 in Putzig. This Michael Ziske who died in 1831, born about 1781 is very likely a relative of one of our Zieske families. [as of 11 July 2008, I believe this death is for Michael Zieski, husband of Anna Maria Krenz]

Still no shared Sponsors or other data found that would clearly indicate a possible relationship between Valerie Pena’s Fasbender & Otto Bloedow’s Zieske families and no data found to connect with the southern Minnesota Michael Zieske born 1847 to anyone, parents or siblings or other. Clearly, both Valerie’s and Otto’s Zieske ancestors are in the same parish, Putzig. [as of 11 July 2008, Michael Zieske born 1846 (not 1847) and Michael Zieske born 1816 are verified to be nephew and uncle.]

Communities then and now: To search areas involved in our search we must know how names changed.. Then German named Ascherbude is now Biernatowo; Putzig is Jedrzejewo; Grünfier is Zielonowo. This from Posen-L volunteer genealogists. A very good WEB site resource to determine this is: http://www.kartenmeister.com/preview/databaseUwe.asp These communities are close by to each other.

68 I didn’t locate as much information this time on 7 December 2007 as last time, 30 November 2007. But finding the marriage record for Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna Christine Schulz and with that, father’s names and place of residence has special value.

First, it tells us that we now can with confidence place in Putzig at some time: Valerie Pena’s (Fasbender Zieski group) Michael Zieski & Anna Maria Krenz each born about 1795 and Otto Bloedow’s (Bloedow) Michael Zieske born about 1816 & Anna Christine Schulz. The children of these couples are about a generation apart.

Second, these community areas we are researching are not densely populated. Everyone probably knew everyone. I keep being reminded of how my Norwegian ancestors came to my home town in groups from the same immediate area. If one family from Putzig came to America and to a place then it is likely that more than one and perhaps many came first to the same place.

I have come across other Ziske or such names recently that require more follow-up. You see them in the microfilm page listings above. Any or none of these could be family. I am tracking them even just by name so that they are easier to get back to for later reviews.

I have reserved this FHC Microfilm 0741850 long term at the Oakdale History Center. I am thinking I will need it for a year and more. There is much more to be learned from this film including re-review of the earliest records on this film which are handwritten paragraphs, not columns. And there are gaps in data that I hope other films can cover.

Fred Matson

69 Discussion 30 November 2007 Original date

[Updated to be accurate as of 10 March 2009]

For purpose of this discussion we have three Michael Zieske: Michael 1795 (Valerie's); Michael 1816 (Otto's); and Michael 1826 (Valerie's). Michael born 1847(26 Sep 1846) (my wife's greatgrandfather and nephew of Michael Zieske born 1816) has not yet surfaced.

(Verified as of 11 July 2008) The families of Michael Zieski born 1795 & Anna Maria Krenz AND Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna c. Schultz lived and had children at one time in the same village: Putzig. All known Prussian born children are found in protestant church records of Putzig.

Earlier, I found the birth of Michael Ziske born 1826 in this parish and thus also the presence of his parents.

I have not located the marriage of Michael Zieske & Anna Maria Krenz. I have the Putzig marriage of Michael Zieske born 1816 & Anna C. Schultz (15 Apr 1842).

After finding the birth of Johann Christoph, I also found the birth of a second child, Gottfried, born 1845 (appears to be Jan 9, or, Jan 9 could be baptism or both). His parents are Michael Ziske & Anna Christina Schulz. This Michael Zieske is born in 1816.

A Luise Beutter (verified to be Beutler) was a witness to Johann Christoph’s baptism and a Gottlieb Beutter (verified to be Beutler) a witness to Gottfried's baptism. This gives some support to these Beutter (Beutler) being of the same family, maybe even husband/wife.

Valerie, this Anna Christina Schulz I found today married to a Michael Ziske may be the same Ana Christina Schutz your uncle found to be married to Michael Zieski born 1826, son of Michael Zieski and Anna Maria Krenz. More likely, however, because of age, Michael Zieski born 1826 was marrried to a different Anna Christina Schutz.

It is possible that this girl is the Anna Christina Schulz I am tracking that was born at nearly the same time as Michael Zieski born 1826. I can't be sure yet because I have not yet seen Michael Zieske born 1826 and a wife having children.

Anna Christina is a common name in these records. But this Anna Christina Schulz born Dec 1829 (father=Johann Schulz; mother=Anna Christina Zellmer) is a candidate for the wife of Michael Zieski born 1826 if he married an Anna Christina Schulz.

Fred Matson