Family Group Sheet for Robert Treacher

Husband: Robert Treacher Birth: 16 Jul 1852 in Flint Hall, Bushey, Hertfordshire, England Marriage: 07 Oct 1878 in Hackney, , England; (St Luke) Death: 23 May 1897 in , London, England; (22 Ritter Street) Burial: 26 May 1897 in , London, England; (Woolwich New ) Father: Edward Treacher Mother: Sophia Bates Wife: Jessie Flaws Birth: 02 Dec 1857 in Sandend, Banffshire, Scotland Death: 18 Dec 1906 in Woolwich, London, England; (22 Ritter Street) Burial: 24 Dec 1906 in Plumstead, London, England; (Woolwich New Cemetery) Father: Peter Nicholson McLaren Flaws Mother: Agnes Riddoch Children: 1 Name: Edward William Treacher M Birth: 09 Mar 1879 in St Thomas Mount, Madras, India Marriage: 26 Nov 1907 in Edmonton, London, England Death: 23 Apr 1956 in Hornchurch, Essex, England; Age: 77 Spouse: Margaret O'Connor 2 Name: Robert Treacher M Birth: 22 Jan 1881 in St Thomas Mount, Madras, India Marriage: Abt. Jun 1913 in Charlton, London, England; (St Thomas) Death: Dec 1947 in Romford, Essex, England; Age: 66 Spouse: Ada Florence Togwell 3 Name: Richard Charles Treacher M Birth: 28 Sep 1882 in Wellington, Madras, India Marriage: Dec 1921 in , London, England Death: Jun 1935 in Woolwich, London, England; Age: 52 4 Name: Frederick Treacher M Birth: 25 Oct 1885 in Plumstead, London, England Marriage: 11 Feb 1911 in Woolwich, London, England Death: 29 Nov 1935 in Woolwich, London, England; (15 Engineer Road) Burial: 05 Dec 1935 in Plumstead, London, England; (Woolwich Old Cemetery, King's Highway) Spouse: Rose Ellen Abbott 5 Name: Agnes Sophia Treacher F Birth: 18 Feb 1888 in Woolwich, London, England Marriage: Abt. 1914 in Woolwich, London, England Spouse: William R Chapman 6 Name: Arthur Treacher M Birth: 18 Nov 1891 in Woolwich, London, England Marriage: 1934 in Woolwich, London, England Death: Mar 1963 in Woolwich, London, England; Age: 75 Spouse: Louisa Ansell 7 Name: Jessie Treacher F Birth: 28 Jun 1894 in Woolwich, London, England Death: 29 Jun 1894 in Woolwich, London, England Burial: 05 Jul 1894 in Plumstead, London, England; Woolwich New Cemetery Notes: Robert Treacher 1861 Census - Wiith parents 1871 Census - Census record is headed St Andrew's, District Barracks There were 6 Officers and 155 men shown in D Battery. 1881 Census - In India 1888 - Birth of daughter, Agnes Sophia 1891 Census - Most of the houses in the street were occupied by soldiers from the RA 18 Nov 1891 - Birth of son, Arthur

Fact Notes for Robert Treacher Birth: Birth date on IGI record 16 Jul 1851 Death: From death certificate - Occupation - Cadets Servant Cause of death - Ague 5 days, double pneumonia. Address and place of death - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich London.

Burial: Buried in communal grave. Marriage: From copy marriage certificate - Surnames - Tricher and Flaws Place St Luke's, Hackney, Middlesex Ages - Robert, 27 and Jessie 21 Status - Bachelor and Spinster Occupations - Robert, soldier and Jessie, none shown Address at marriage - Durham Grove (both) Fathers - Edward Tricker, Bricklayer and Peter Flaws, Farm servant Witnesses - Jessie Findley Randyll and Harriet Wilson

Jessie F Randyll is in Hackney at the 1881 census. She is a widow, aged 34, working as a laundress. She is shown as being born in Scotland. In1887 she married William Richie in Hackney. Perhaps the two Jessies came down from Scotland together.

The Parish Record from St Luke's Church, show that Jessie signed her name and that Robert made his mark. Robert's surname has been written as Tricher, which was transcribed by Ancestry.co.uk as Tricker. Both witnesses signed their names.

At the time of WW1, there existed the Hackney Royal Garrison Artillery 152nd Heavy Battery, which suggests a reason why the marriage took place in Hackney. Jessie Flaws 2 Dec 1857 (Birth certificate) Born at 7 pm 1861 Census - With mother 1881 Census - In India 1901 Census - No occupation shown 1901-2 Electoral Register (County Council elections only) Ward - St George's Address - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich Voter Number - 5328 1902-3 Electoral Register (County Council elections only) Ward - St George's Address - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich Voter Number - 5409 Fact Notes for Jessie Flaws Birth: FamilySearch.org record - Birth:Notes: FamilySearch.org (con't) record - Name: Jessie Flaws Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 02 Dec 1857 Birthplace: FORDYCE,BANFF,SCOTLAND Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Peter Flaws Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Agnes Riddoch Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11153-1 System Origin: Scotland-ODM Source Film Number: 6035516 Reference Number:

For Scottish Registration document, see media section. Death: From death certificate Place - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London Rank or profession - Widow of Robert Treacher, Army Pensioner Cause - Morbus Cordis several years. Hypostatic pneumonia. Syncope 1 month 2 days. Informant - Edward Treacher, son, Police Section House, Edmonton. Burial: Buried in communal grave. Edward William Treacher 1891 Census - Address - 41 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with parents Born in India At time of mother's death he was a policeman Fact Notes for Edward William Treacher Name: Second initial from Army Birth Record Robert Treacher 1891 Census Address - 41 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with parents Place of birth - India 1901 Census Occupation - Electric Cable Maker Address - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with mother Place of birth - St Michael's Mount, Cornwall Later in Royal Artillery 1911 Census Address - 57 Llanover Road, Plumstead, London - as boarder Occupation - Domestic Cook Fact Notes for Robert Treacher Birth: Army Birth Record - 1881 Marriage: Last Banns read on 22 Jun 1913. Assuming that they married in the same church. Richard Charles Treacher 1891 Census Address - 41 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with parents Born in India 1901 Census Occupation - General Labourer Address - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with mother AddressNotes: (con't) - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with mother Born in India 1901 Census Occupation - General Labourer Address - 2 Bettisfield Road, Charlton, London as lodger Shown as married but not with wife. Born in India Fact Notes for Richard Charles Treacher Name: First name from Army Birth Record. Known as Charles Birth: Army Birth Record - 1882 India Selected Births - Name Richard Charles Treacher Mother Jossie Father Robert Treacher Birth 28 Sep 1882 Baptism22 Oct 1882 - Wellington, Madras, India Frederick Treacher 1891 Census - With parents (Whole area demolished - new flats and houses) Born in Woolwich 1901 Census - With mother Born in Woolwich 1911 Census - No trace - almost certainly on HMS Topaze and possibly at sea. Occupations - Before 20 May 1901 - Carman From 20 May 1901 to 6 Mar 1916 Ordinary Seaman, then Able Seaman, then Able Seaman Gunner Address at marriage - HMS Topaze, Dockyard, Portsmouth From about Mar 1916 to death - Goods checker at the British Rail Depot at Woolwich Arsenal Station. Medals- Frederick served throughout the first world war in the Royal Navy, and was awarded the following medals - The British War Medal, for those who served overseas from 1914 to 1918 The 1914-15 Star, for those who served up to 31 December 1915 but who had not received the 1914 Star (the Mons Star) The Victory Medal, for those who served in an overseas theatre of war. He was also mentioned in dispatches and his name appears in the London Gazette in 1919. This would have entitled him to an oak leaf cluster on his Victory Medal. Field Gun Competition Frederick took part in two Field Gun Competitions at Royal Tournaments at Olympia, where teams from Naval Ports had to dismantle a gun, carry it over a wall and chasm, reassemble it and then fire it. His team, HMS Victory, won in 1908 and came second in the other (probably 1909). His winner's medal was made into a brooch by his wife and is now in the care of his granddaughter, Shirley. The second place medal is in the care of his great grandson, Christopher. 1927/28 to 1939/40 Frederick (up to his death on 29 Nov 1935) and Rose Ellen appear in the Electoral Registers at 15 Engineer Road, Woolwich in Polling District 1 (H) of St George's Ward. In some of the registers there are others listed in the house. 1928/29 - Frederick Witchell and Thomas Matthews, both listed as naval or military voters 1929/30 - Frederick and Eva Witchell and Thomas Matthews 1930/31 - Edith Eizabeth Moloney 1931/32 - Bridget Jackson 1933 - Dorothy Margaret Ridley Of these, Mum, can only remember the Witchells. Fred Witchell was a BSM in the Royal Artillery, in charge of the horses. Mum has a photo of Fred riding one of the horses. They used to play cards with Gran and Granddad. Mum remembers them as a lovely couple. Mum cannot see how they could have fitted Thomas Matthews in the house with five family members and the Witchells, and I am sure she would have remembered at least one of them. Perhaps the names were added by the landlord so that they could get a vote in Woolwich. Maybe some sort of scam? Relationship Notes for Frederick Treacher and Rose Ellen Abbott Index - Jan-Mar 1911 Woolwich 1d 1256 IndexNotes: - Jan-Mar(con't) 1911 Woolwich 1d 1256 From Marriage Certificate - Place - The Registery office, Woolwich, London Ages - Frederick, 25 and Rose Ellen, 24 Status - Bachelor and Spinster Occupations - Able Seaman RN and Housemaid Residence at marriage - Frederick, HMS Topaze and Rose Ellen, 19 EngineerRoad, Woolwich, London Parents - Robert Treacher and Samuel Abbott, both deceased and bothGunners in the RGA Witnesses - Maud Redford and Albert Abbott (Rose's cousin Bertie and hiswife to be) Fact Notes for Frederick Treacher Birth: From birth cert - Born at the Warren, Shrewsbury Lane, Plumstead, London Unable to find any reference to the Warren in Shrewsbury Lane, which is on Shooters Hill, but there is a Warren in Woolwich near to the ferry. Both the 1891 and 1901 censuses state that he was born in Woolwich.

Death: From Death Certificate - Place - 15 Engineer Road, Woolwich, London Age - 50 Occupation - Railway Goods Checker Cause - Uraemia, Suppression of urine, Unresolved pneumonia and myocarditis Informant - R E Treacher, Widow of the deceased, of 15 Engineer Road,present at death. When Frederick became ill, the doctor said it was just a cold, so he went to work. The following day he was so ill that he was sent home. Thedoctor then arranged for him to be taken into hospital. He was in hospital for about a week, but when told that nothing could be done he asked to be taken home. His wife was required to sign a discharge form. He died the following day. The local newspaper death notice - The funeral took place on Thursday last, December 5th, of Mr. frederick Treacher, of 15 Engineer Road, Woolwich, who passed over on November 29th, aged 50 years. Floral tributees were sent by his wife; his three children, Ivy, Arthur and Jessie;Arthur and Louie; Mrs M Treacher and Don;Will and Lill, Nephew and nieces;Bert and Maud and Bertie;George and Kate; Maud, Ern, Eric and Mrs Kill;Mrs Wilson and Family;Bella and family;Maggie;Mr and Mrs Stokes;Mr Merrett and office staff at Plumstead depot;Neighbours and friends;girls of the second floor CWS, Silvertown;May;Mrs Top. Mrs. Treacher and family wish to thank all friends and relations for kindness shown to the late Mr Treacher during his illness. Also the staff of "A" Ward, St Nicholas Hospital, Plumstead, and his workmates for their sympathy shown at his funrral and for the lovely floral tributes sent in their deep loss. Burial: Buried in Woolwich Old Cemetary, Plot I128 From undertaker's invoice - Elm coffin made with moulded plinth and box lid, French Polished and furnised with brass handles, lid, ornaments, plates of written inscription, lined, pillow, mattress swansdown, sidesheets and ruffle, finished complete. Motor hearse and two landaulettes and all attendance of bearers to Woolwich Cemetery (Old). £15. Cash paid for burial fees and re-opening grave £1 7s 6d.

Marriage: From Marriage Certificate Place - The Registery Office, Woolwich, London Ages - Frederick, 25, and Rose Ellen, 24 Status - Bachelor and Spinster Occupations - Able Seaman, RN and Housemaid Residence at marriage - HMS Topaze, Dockyard, Portsmouth and 19 Engineer Road, Woolwich, London Parents - Robert Treacher and Samuel Abbott, both deceased and both Gunners in the RGA Witnesses - Maud Redfrord and Albert Abbott (Rose Ellen's brother and his wife-to-be.) Agnes Sophia Treacher 1891 Census Address - 41 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with parents 1901 Cenus Address - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with mother Fact Notes for Agnes Sophia Treacher Birth: Birth Index - Jan-Mar 1888 Woolwich 1d 1236 Place of birth from birth certificate - Female Hospital, Woolwich, London PlaceNotes: of (con't) birth from birth certificate - Female Hospital, Woolwich, London Army Birth Record - 1888 Marriage: Marriage Index - Jan-Mar 1914 Woolwich 1d 1411 Arthur Treacher 1901 Census Address - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London with mother Arthur was apparently the black sheep of the family. Frederick's daughter, Jessie, heard her father ask his wife, "Why on earth can't he (Arthur) hold down a job?" He worked for a time in the boiler house of St Nicholas Hospital.Plumstead. Fact Notes for Arthur Treacher Birth: Birth Index - Oct-Dec 1891 Woolwich 1d 1218 Place of birth from birth cert - 22 Ritter Street, Woolwich, London Marriage: Louisa (Known as Louie) was previously married to Albert Edward Frid

Name: Louisa Frid Spouse Surname: Treacher Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1934 Registration District: Woolwich Inferred County: Kent Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 3090 Fact Notes for Jessie Treacher Birth: Premature birth - lived just 12 hours Born and died at 22 Ritter St, Woolwich, London. Birth Index - Jul-Sep 1894 Woolwich 1d 1179 Death: Death index - Jul-1d 605Sep 1894 Woolwich