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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 8241 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 19 March 2014 The Council met at Eleven o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE JASPER TSANG YOK-SING, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ALBERT HO CHUN-YAN THE HONOURABLE LEE CHEUK-YAN THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE CHAN KAM-LAM, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG DR THE HONOURABLE LAU WONG-FAT, G.B.M., G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE EMILY LAU WAI-HING, J.P. THE HONOURABLE TAM YIU-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE FREDERICK FUNG KIN-KEE, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE VINCENT FANG KANG, S.B.S., J.P. 8242 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-HING, B.B.S., M.H. PROF THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P., Ph.D., R.N. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE RONNY TONG KA-WAH, S.C. THE HONOURABLE CYD HO SAU-LAN THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE LAM TAI-FAI, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KA-LAU THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-CHE THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE IP KWOK-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 8243 THE HONOURABLE ALAN LEONG KAH-KIT, S.C. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG KWOK-HUNG THE HONOURABLE ALBERT CHAN WAI-YIP THE HONOURABLE CLAUDIA MO THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TIEN PEI-CHUN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE NG LEUNG-SING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING THE HONOURABLE WU CHI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE GARY FAN KWOK-WAI THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHARLES PETER MOK THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHI-CHUEN THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN DR THE HONOURABLE KENNETH CHAN KA-LOK THE HONOURABLE CHAN YUEN-HAN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LEUNG 8244 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KWOK KA-KI THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG THE HONOURABLE DENNIS KWOK THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE FERNANDO CHEUNG CHIU-HUNG THE HONOURABLE SIN CHUNG-KAI, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE HELENA WONG PIK-WAN THE HONOURABLE IP KIN-YUEN DR THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. THE HONOURABLE TANG KA-PIU DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, J.P. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHUNG SHU-KUN, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TONY TSE WAI-CHUEN LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 8245 MEMBERS ABSENT: THE HONOURABLE WONG YUK-MAN THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE MRS CARRIE LAM CHENG YUET-NGOR, G.B.S., J.P. THE CHIEF SECRETARY FOR ADMINISTRATION THE HONOURABLE JOHN TSANG CHUN-WAH, G.B.M., J.P. THE FINANCIAL SECRETARY PROF THE HONOURABLE ANTHONY CHEUNG BING-LEUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING THE HONOURABLE MATTHEW CHEUNG KIN-CHUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND WELFARE PROF THE HONOURABLE K C CHAN, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE TREASURY THE HONOURABLE GREGORY SO KAM-LEUNG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE HONOURABLE LAI TUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., I.D.S.M., J.P. SECRETARY FOR SECURITY DR THE HONOURABLE KO WING-MAN, B.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH THE HONOURABLE WONG KAM-SING, J.P. SECRETARY FOR THE ENVIRONMENT THE HONOURABLE PAUL CHAN MO-PO, M.H., J.P. SECRETARY FOR DEVELOPMENT 8246 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MR KENNETH CHEN WEI-ON, S.B.S., SECRETARY GENERAL MRS JUSTINA LAM CHENG BO-LING, DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL MISS FLORA TAI YIN-PING, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 8247 TABLING OF PAPERS The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure: Subsidiary Legislation/Instruments L.N. No. Public Revenue Protection (Dutiable Commodities) Order 2014 ........................................................................ 25/2014 Rating (Exemption) Order 2014 ......................................... 26/2014 Other Papers No. 85 ─ Correctional Services Department Welfare Fund Report by the Commissioner of Correctional Services of Hong Kong Incorporated on the Administration of the Fund for the year ended 31 March 2013 No. 86 ─ Estimates for the year ending 31 March 2015 General Revenue Account - Consolidated Summary of Estimates - Revenue Analysis by Head No. 87 ─ Hong Kong Rotary Club Students' Loan Fund Financial Statements for the year ended 31 August 2013 No. 88 ─ Sing Tao Charitable Foundation Students' Loan Fund Financial Statements for the year ended 31 August 2013 No. 89 ─ The Lord Wilson Heritage Trust Annual Report 2012-2013 8248 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 Report of the Committee on Rules of Procedure on access to documents and records of the Legislature Report No. 13/13-14 of the House Committee on Consideration of Subsidiary Legislation and Other Instruments Report of the Bills Committee on Inland Revenue (Amendment) (No. 3) Bill 2013 Report of the Bills Committee on Product Eco-responsibility (Amendment) Bill 2013 Addendum to the Report of the Bills Committee on Stamp Duty (Amendment) Bill 2012 ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Questions. First question. Alleviation of Crowdedness of MTR Train Compartments 1. MS STARRY LEE (in Cantonese): President, according to a paper submitted by the Transport and Housing Bureau to the Subcommittee on Matters Relating to Railways under the Panel on Transport of this Council, the busy sections of the Tseung Kwan O Line, East Rail Line (ERL), West Rail Line (WRL), Tsuen Wan Line, Island Line and Kwun Tong Line have been loaded with passengers to capacity or are close to that during the morning peak hours, based on the actual passenger density level of four persons (standing) per sq m. Regarding alleviation of the crowdedness in MTR train compartments, will the Government inform this Council: (1) whether the authorities will take measures (such as requesting the MTR Corporation Limited (MTRCL) to modify its fare structure, making use of other modes of public transport for diversion of LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 8249 passengers and setting up shopping areas near the boundary) to alleviate the passenger loading of the railways; if they will, of the details and the implementation timetable; if not, the reasons for that; (2) as the ERL has already been loaded with passengers to capacity during peak hours but the project of North East New Territories New Development Areas (NENT NDA) will increase the population to be served by the ERL, and the carrying capacity of the ERL will be reduced by the replacement of the current 12-car trains by nine-car trains upon the full commissioning of the Shatin to Central Link (SCL), of the plans of the authorities to alleviate the crowdedness in the train compartments of the ERL; and (3) whether it has assessed the impact of the commissioning of the SCL, the South Island Line and the West Island Line on the patronage of MTR, as well as the number of ERL passengers to be generated by the additional population upon the completion of the relevant items of the NENT NDA project; if it has, of the details; if not, the reasons for that; whether it has plans to accelerate the development of the Northern Link (NOL) so as to divert some ERL passengers to the WRL; if it has, of the details; if not, the reasons for that? SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING (in Cantonese): President, both the Government and the MTR Corporation Limited (MTRCL) understand the community's concern on the rather high train loading situation on some busy railway lines during peak hours. The MTRCL will respond in a holistic manner by, inter alia, strengthening passenger flow management, purchasing new trains, replacing the signalling systems, ensuring the timely completion of new railway lines, and so on. Details were explained to Members at the meeting of the Subcommittee on Matters Relating to Railways late last month, and I am not going to repeat them here. My reply to the various parts of Ms Starry LEE's question is as follows: (1) We have considered the pricing strategy mentioned by Ms Starry LEE. Our preliminary view is that it is worthwhile to study the feasibility of a fare concession scheme in encouraging some of the commuters to take their MTR rides outside peak hours. The MTRCL is pressing ahead with the study, and will make reference to 8250 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ─ 19 March 2014 similar practices adopted by overseas cities, so as to decide how best the scheme could be implemented in Hong Kong for achieving passenger diversion.