Eighth Series, Vol. vln No. 19 ~oad.1.Auaast19,1985 Srayana 28, 1907 (Sat.)
LOK . SABHA DEBATES (English Version)
Third Session (Eighth Lok Sabha)
(Yol. YIII comal1J8 NOl. I I to 20 J
LOK SABRA SECllETAlUAT NEW DELHI ,'*- z Ill. 4.00 [Original English proceedings included in English Version and Original Hindi proceedings included in Hindi Version will be treated as authoritative and not the translation thereof.] CONTENTS
No. 19, Monday, August 19, 1985/Sravana 28, 1907 (Saka)
COLUMNS
Oral Answers to Questions ~ *Starrcd QU,estioos Nos. 36,7 to 37S .' ••• 1-31- WJ;ittcn Answen to Questions : , - Starred Questions Nos., 376 to 388 ... 37--49
Unstarred Questions Nos. 3813 tq 3840, ~842 to 3~64, 3866 to 3914. 3916 to 3973. 391S. ' ,3976, 3978 to 4007, 4009 to 4047, 404 7-~, 4047-B and 4.047-C . 49-335 Statement correctinl reply to U$Q 3969 dated 22nd April, 198 S'. - , 335
~apen Laid 00 tbe Table ••• 344-348 Estimates Committee Fifth Report 348
Public Accounts Committee ~ Tenth Report 348-3ti9
Committee 00 Papers Laid on tbe Table First, Second and Third Reports 349
Commjttee ~n Papers Laid on the Table Minutes of tbe sittings 349
Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importancc 3S0~377 Reported deJay in the implementatioD of re commendations or Higb Lo~el committee 0.0 Problems of ex-scrvicemeo Sbri Kainal Natb 350
Sbri p. V. Narasimha Rao 351
Sbri Ajay Masbran 372 ~ - .. ,
·The SilD + marked .bov~ tPc.name of a M~mbcr indicates that the question wa~ actually asked on tho 41 ftoor of the House by that ¥~bcr. . (ii)
COLUMNS
Statement Re : Convertible Cumulative Preference Shares 377
Sbri Janardhana Poojary. 377
.Bills , Introduced- r •. (J) Government Savings Laws (Amendment) Bill 377---:378
(2) Intelligence Organisations (Restriction of Rights) BiU 378
(3) Supreme Court (Number of Judges) Amendment Bill 379
Matters Under Rule 377- (i) Need to give status of Central U oi versity to Allahabad University and other old Universities in the country
· Shri Zain ul Basher 380
(ii) Steps needed to protect mountains and forest areas of Mirzapur District of Uttar Pradesh from deforestation Sbri Uma Kant Mishra 381
(iii) Providing Central Assistance to the tune of Rs. 100 crores to Himachal Pradesh during 1985 for construction of Pucca Roads and Bridges Shri K. D. Sultanpuri ·382
(iv) Schemes for providing drinking water facilities in Rajasthan during Seventh Plan Shri Virdhi Chander Jain 383
(v) Need to adopt permanent measures to eradicate famine in Chronic drought prone areas
Shri K. Ramachandra Reddy 38.3
(vi) Need to withdraw notification a.nd the Bill seeking to withdraw the ex-emption of excise duty on band made detergent products in tbe interest of pro moting the growth of small scale industries Shri Ajit Kumar Saba 384
(vii) Extending the same benefits to the Educational and Vocational Guidance Counsellers working in various Goveroment Scltools in Delbi as provided to all Other categories or teachers employed in Government Schools Sbri K..J, Abbasi ... 385 CoLUMNS ; (viii) Incentives· to protection staff edlploycd in Archa eological Survey of India to stop pilferage of archaeological relics. Sbri Digvijay Sinh 38S
I . Essential Services Maintenance (Amendment) Bill 386-437
.Motion to consider
Sbri Haroobhai Mebta 386 Shri Damodar Pandey 390
Dr. Dutta Samant' 395
Sbri G.S. Basawaraju 399
. Shri Thampan Thomas 401
Shri Arnar Roypradban 404 Shri Amal Datta 406
Shri S.B. Chavan 408
Clauses 2 and 1 Motion to pass
Shri S.B. Chavan 430
s.tatutory Resolution Re: Essential Services Maintenaqcc - Act, 1981. 437-440
Shri Shivraj V. Patil 437
I Terrorist Affected Areas (Special Courts) Amendment Bill. ••• 440-461 Motion to' consider Shri S.B. Chavan ... , 440 Shci N. Venkata Ratnam 441
Shri N. Tombi Singh
Shri Naik Shant~ram . , ... Shri Amal Datta 447 Shri Barish Rawat ... 450 ~.F-. Shri Ram Pyare Pani ka .... 451 - Sbri V.S. Krishna Iyer 452 liv)
COLUMNS
Sbri IC. RaPl~fPcAIa ~ 454 Clauses 2 to 4 and 1 Motion to Pass
Shri S.D. Chavau 461 ,joII# : ... •••" ...."
Coffee (Amendment) Bill 461-490 'Motion to consider
Shri P .A. Saogma 461
Shri Gopa) Krishna That. 463 Dr. K.G. Adiyodi ... 465 pc.of • p.J. Kurien 469
Shri V.S. Krishna Iyer 472
Shri Moo} ChaDd Daaa 475
Shri Suresh ~urup 471
Shri Somnath Ratb 479
Shri C. Janga Reddy 480 Shri K. Mohandas ... 482 Shri R. Jeeverathma_ 483
Clauses 2 to SandI MotioD to pass
Sbri P .A. SaDgma 490
Statemmt re. Apartheid in South Africa 492-495
Shri Khursbid Alam' JC.ban 492
DiJCUlSion Re : Racial Riots in South Africa alf~J}D' the . ..,": .'~ people of IBdian Oriain 491-492, 495-543 Sbri Pratap BhaDU Sharma ... 496 Shri S.M. Bhattam ... 501 '. Shri O.G. Swell ... 504 (v)
COLUMNS
Shri Hannan Mollah ••• 509 Sbri Eduardo Faleiro ... 510 Shri S. Jaipal Reddy 515
Prof. P.J. Kurien 516 Shri Rajiv Gandhi ... 519 Shri Indrajit Gupta 522 Sbri Zaioul Basher ••• 526 Shri Mohd. Mahfooj Ali Khan ... 528 Sbri Somnath Rath 530
Shri Harish Rawat 532
Shri Raj Kumar Ra i 533 Dr. G.S. Rajhans 534 Shri Ramswaroop Ram 537 Shri Khurshid Alam Khan 538
Papers Laid 00 the Table 544
LOK SABHA DEBATES
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LOK SABHA Madras Doordarshan Kendra Have com plained even to the Minister, the Deputy Director General as well as the Director General, Doordarsban, that there is,. one person in the Kendra, the Deputy Direc Monday, August 19, 1985/Sravana ~8, tor (Programmes) who is not permitting 1907 (Saka) the Producers ~o have any say on any item either for designing or for script. Their complaint is that there is constant interference. In the complaints they say that their programmes often lack quality only because of the constant interference The Lok Sabha met at and their inabilities to de~gin the pro Eleven of the Clock. grammes properly. Would the Minister look into this matter and take action to remedy the situation and if possible report. [MR. SPEAKER. in the Chair] to this House on the outcome ?
ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS SHRI V.N. GADGIL: This is for the first time, I am hearing all these. I [English] will certainly look into tllis. Functional Autonomy to Doordarsban Producers SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: The second supplementary is that the *367. SHRI P. R. KUMARA- Producers of the Madras Doordarshan MA NGALA..M: Will the Minister of Kendra have, complained ot lack of proper INFORMATION" AND BROADCAST. support in the sets for making programme ING be pleased to state: due to shortage of stock. In 1982 an inventory was taken and it was found tbat there were tremendous discrepancies. (a) whether producers employed in In fact, even the internal audit have Doordarshan are given functional auto complained about it. But it was covered nomy in so far as the script and the uP, I understand and I wish· to state quite design of the programme are concerned ; categorical1y, because of political patron and age. From 1982, tin todate no inven. tory has been taken of the stocks. The (b) if not, the reasons therefor - internal audit has Dot been a)]owed to have a say in the matter. in fact people from the Wardrobe Assistant to the top THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE of the Kendra are involved in this MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND racket. Would the Minister-my question BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD is very clear-ensure that an inyentory is GIL): (a) Yes, Sir. taken in the Madras Doordarshan Kendra by a third" partY-Dol' by an internal (b) Does not arise. assessment because everybody is involved in that Kendra-either by Vigilance or SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM: CBI and take appropriate action against Mr. Speaker,. Sir, the producers in tbe those who are involved 1 3 Oral A.nswers AUGUST 19, 1985 Oral Answers 4
MR. SPEAKER: Is it a pertinent are trying to find out the reasons question, Sir? now!
SHRI P.R. KUMARAMANGALAM : SHRI V.N. GADGIL: I said, I am It is impoctant because tbece is lack of enquiring. proper support ••• [Translation] MR. SPEAKER: The Minister will SHRI NIRMAL KHATTRI: Mr. take Dote of this. Speakerll Sir, sponsored programmes are being teJecast by Doordarshan. May I SHRI P.R. KUMARAMA~GALAM : know whether it is proposed to telecast May I explain, Sir ? such programmes as could be conductive for the development of national cha MR. SPEAKER: No. Mr. Jaipal racter ? Reddy. MR. SPEAKER: Khattriji, it is not SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: May I re1evant. know whether it is a fact that the senior aids of Ministers and senior officers of the Departments had tried to interfere with [EngU'h). the Janvani Programmes which were pre I.L.O. Convention Regarding Carr) jng of pared; and whether it is aIso a fatt that "'eight by Workers certain Video Cassettts prepared in the context of lanvani Programmes were *368. SHRI THAMPAN 1 HOMAS: erased and reused and if, what are the Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased reasons therefor ? to state:
SHRI V.N. GADGIL: Sir, as far as the first part of the question is concerned, (a) whether Government have accepted the answer is 'No'. the LL.O. convention with regard to carrying of not more than 50 Kg, weight by workers (both men/women) ; As far as the second part of the ques tion is concerned, the answer is 'Yes'. (b) if so, whether in a number of In the case of three recordings of Janvani, States most of the workers in godowns, the tapes were erased. In one case, that at Fer~ywharfs and Ports and Docks carry of Shri Buta Singh. the alternative was over 10.0 kg. of weight at a time; available. However ~ in two cases, it \\-as and erased. The matter is being looked into. (c) if so, the steps taken to stop this practice? SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: What are the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. MR. SPEAKER: That is what they ANJIAH): (a) to (c). A Statement is are trying to find out. The enquiry will given below. show what were the reasons therefor. Statement SHRI V.N. GADGIL: I said, I am enquiring into it, I am trying to find out The ILO Convention No. 127 concern the reasons. ing the 'Maximum Permissible Weight to be carried by one worker' was adopted by PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: the International Labcur Conference in Did tbey crase them first and then they 1 967. The Convention requires regula .. S Oral Answers SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers 6 tion of manual transport of loads in all SHRI T. ANJIAH: Regarding these branches of economic activity for wh ich a workers, one of the biggest employer is system of labour inspection is ~maintained. the Food Corporation of India. There The Convention lays down only the gene thousands of such worKers are working. ral principles and does not Jay down any As the hon. Member says, there is no maximum permissible weight as such. provision at present under the Minimum India has not ratified this' Convention so Wages Act, and for things like Provident far~ The Recommendation No. 128, Fund and ESI. Our Department will be however, lays down. the maximum per examining wh~ther we can bring in a missible weight of 55 Kgs. and the comprehensive 'legislation on the subject. Recommendation, being in the nature of a guideline, does not entail ratification~ The Tripartite Committee on Conventions SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: My in the Ministry of Labour recommended second supplementary is with regard to in 1981 the maximum limit of 50 Kgs. health conditions of these people. Will This, however, required detailed consulta they consider this aspect? Usually, tion with the Ministries c~ncerned. At the~e people carry this load on their present bags of different sizes are. in use. heads, and go up to 20 stacks' by carry Whea t and rice are being packed by the ing on their head 65 Kgs., in the case of Food Corporation of India in 95/100 Kg. men. Tbey go 20 stacks high and put packing and paddy in 67/70 Kg. pack it on there. W ill Government consider ing. Steps were. therefore, taken to supplying forklift, light machines and explore the possibility of introducing the other technically .. advanced equipment for limit of 50 Kg. weight as recommended loading and stacking these things in the by the Committee on Conventions, in a godown, especially in the Central Govern phased manner, in the godowns of the ment and State Government sectOrs, and Food Corp:Jration of India. The Depart in doc ks also '1 ment of Food are now contemplating to introduce tbe 50 Kg. bags with effect SHRI T. ANJIAH: All these things from the Rabi Season of 1986 -8 7 • we are examining-including what is the lift weight. That also we are examining. SHRI THAMPAN THOMAS: My first supplementary is with regard to the statutory benefils given to these millions SHRI V AKKOM PURUSHOTHA of workers. In every nook and corner, MAN: The Kerala Government has there are these head-load workers who do enacted a Lagislation cal1ed the Head.. this work of carrying load; but there is Load Workers Act. Tbe main feature no law protecting them-for payment of of that legislation is to give security of wages, gratuity, bonus or any such bene. employment .to the workers. As far as fits. This is a Concurrent Subject. head-load workers are concerned, there is Only a State like Kerala has brought in a no security or anything else will Govern law regulating the working of head-load ment come forward to enact a legislation workers, naming it Head-Load Workers of that type, which will be applicable to Act, wherein some benefits are given. all the States in the country '1 SHRI T. ANJIAH: I have already This is the biggest section of employees said that we will take this up-throughout in the country which earns something this country. sacrificing even its life-because they carry 100 Kgs. on their heads. It is also a risky one. My Question is : this MR. SPEAKER: They will take it being a Concurrent Subject, will the into consideration. Central Government formulate a law regulating the service conditions and SHRI M.V. CHANDRASHBKARA minimum wages and also for avoiding MURTHY: The House is equally the risk for these workers in the concerned-not only with carrying the country? weight, but also pulling the weight. 7 Oral Answer" AUGUST 19. 1985 Oral Answers 8
Even thirtyeight years after independence~ (b) and (c), No survey ba~ been done we are seeing glimpses of this slavery in' by the Department of Rural Development. many parts of the country, e.g. in However, according to the reports received liYderabed and Madras cities. There, from States/Union Territories, intermediary pulling of man by man in rickshaws is tenures of devasthan inams in Maha allowed. It is nothing but slavery. Is rashtra, certain service jagirs in Orissa and the Government prepared to ban this evil communidades in Goa, Daman & Diu practice, and to rehabilitate these have not yet been abolished and residuary rickshaw-pullers, by financing them work in the implementation of abolition through banks, i.e. to buy auto rickshaws of intermediary rights remains in t1-'.o to eke out their livelihood ? States of Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Gujarat, Karnataka, Kerala, Mad"hya Pradesh, Mabarashtra, Orissa, Rajasthan, MR. SPEAKER: Auto-rickshaws? Tamil Nadu, Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal and Pondicherry. SHRI T. ANJIAH: That is a separate question. SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK: None of the anti-poverty programmes SHRI M.V. CHANDRASHEKARA wo"uld be" successful unless these are MURTHY: I seek your protectioD., Sir. integrated with schemes to crea te income. It concerns manua1labour. ' genelating assets for the rural poor. The bon. Minister has answered part (a) of MR. SPEAKER: Next question. my question. He has admitted that there is not much headway in regard to land reforms. What are the' reasons for this ImplEmentation of Acts Relating to and what was the target in the 6th Plan Abolition of Intermediary Tenures (State-wise break-up) and the cas~s of land pending in the courts? ]s the *369. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT Central Government thinking of appro NAIK: Will the Minister of A G RI priate for proper monitoring mechan:sm CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP for periodical review with some directives MENT be pJeased to state : and directions to the State Governments in this regard ? (a) whether Government's attention bas been invited to the news item PUbli S. BUTA SINGH: First of aU, I shed in 'Business Standard' dated 23 share the remarks of the hon. mem ber June~ 1985 that Government has finally that unless we tackle this basic problem admitted "that core of the antiApoverty of our rural society, namely, the imple programme (redistributive land reforms) mentation of land-reforms strictly, no has not made much headway and the worthwhile progress can be achieved in bUlk ofthe rural poor remain as they the implementation of 20-point pro were without any land ; gramme or alleviation of poverty. While inaugurating tbe Conference of the Revenue Ministers, I Inade this obser (b) whether according to the survey vation : made by the department of Rural Deve lopment, there are some States which have not fully implemented the Acts "If we look at the agrarian scene, we relating to abolition of intermediary have to admit that measures of tenures; and land.reforms taken so fa'r have not given result which was expected to be achieved." (c) if so, the details in this regard? Regarding the target fixed for the 6th THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE Five Year Plan we had hoped that the AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (S. States which did not have legislative pro BUTA SJNGH): (a) Yes, Sir. vision for the conferment of ownership 9 Oral Answers SRAVANA 28,1907 (S4KA) Oral Answers 10
rigbt on all the tenants except for speci MR. SPEAKER He has already cally exempted categories ~uch as serving given it. Defence personnel, miners, disabled, etc. shall have introduced appropriate legis S. BUTA SINGH: As I have stated J~tivc measures to do so within a year that in the beginning, no such survey bas be~n is by 1981-82. conducted by the Government of India as such. But we depend largely on the The second programme was for taking surveys and the statistics provided to us possession and distribution of surplus by the State Governments themselves. land would be completed within two Under the existing legal provisions, the years that is by 1982-83. The priority States which have not fully. implemented in allotment of surplus land would be them are Orissa where certa in service given to SC&ST among the landless. jagirs have not be abolished, and Goa, The third was that a systematic program Damand and Diu where some communi me would be taken up for compilation dades have not been abolished.. There and updating of land records to be phased are Jegal impediments and also. the pro .. for completion within a period of five visions remain unimplemented in various years that is upto 1980.85 in States States a:1d Union Territories like Bihar, \vhere the backlog was heavy. Aeri.,ll Madhya Pradesh, Pondicherry and Uttar survey technique may be employed for Pradesh. expeditious survey operation. Each culti vator would be given a pass book indicat [Tralls/ation] iOf! his status, title to Jand, description of SHRI UivlA KANT MISHRA: Mr. Jand which will include area and the cIass Speaker, Sir, tbe work relatiog to distri of Jand also along with a copy of kho,ra bution of land among th-e bndless map and such other details as are con Adivasis and Harijans in rural areas had sidered necessary for the implementation picked up in 1976.77. Many Adivasis of these land-reforms. Appropriate pro and Harijans were allotted land under the vision will be made in the revenue laws 20-Point Programme and thereafter they to confer legal status on this document were given lease of land, but 50 to 60 per as proof of title and the right in lands cent of them have not been able to get I mean pass book. The text target was possession of land. Of t hem, some cases that the programme of consolidation of are pending before the courts. In some holdings would be taken up by all the States; the local people do not allow States phased for completion in ten years the~ to get possession of land. Although with priority to be given to command area it is a State subj;!ct~ will the hon. Agricul of irrigation projects where it would be ture Minister an'd the Hon. Prime completed within 3-5 years. Legislative Minister try to accelerate the speed of measures for preventing fresh fragmenta , this programme? tion of holdings after consolidation below minimum size would also be implemented. S. BUTA SINGH: Yes Sir, certairly. 1 hese are the targets fixed. If in a nutshell I were to give to the bon. House the implementation, it will be seen that in [ English] ,the Sixth Five Year Plan., 81 per cent of SHRIMATI GEETA !vlUKHERJEE: . the surplus land was taken possession of In view of the very large number of liti and 62. per cent of the declared surplus gations coming in the way ;)f implement land was distributed. ing the land reforms, is the Government cDnsidering the question of putting the SHRI JAGANNATH PATTNAIK_ land reforms laws on the Ninth Schedule Was any survey conducted as to how in order to protect the poor land m.any States and Union Territodes have holders? not yet abolished intermediary tenures and if aoy survey has been made, which are S. BUTA SINGH: As you know, this those States and what steps is the Govern is primarily a State subject and we are ment of India going to take? taking it up with the various Stlte 1 1 Oral Answers AUGUST 19,1985 orial A.nswers 12
Governnlents, where the implementation they provide certain nutrients like pro bas been tardy. We are taking up with teins minerals and vitamins. In .view of them at my level with the Chief Ministers this mushroom cultivation should be snd the Secretary is taking up with the encouraged. No extensive cultivation has Chief Secretaries. This is a suggestion so far been made and some times we find and I will be toO happy if this su~geslion that even in some mushroom-growing were to be accepted. States the production of mushroom falls steep. However, the hon. Minister' has !eplied tbat a project has been prepared Mushroom Cultivation in Stat('s under with the help of the Netherlands Govern Centrally Sponsored Scbeme ment in four States. It has Dot been extended to other States. III some areas *370. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT like Ch~_lra Nagpur Plateau in Bihar, and NAIK: Will the MInister of AG'RI .. Gonasika and Samlipur Foothills of CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP. Orissa and Midnap~rc and other areas of MENT be pleased to state : \Vest Bengal there is tremendous scope for mushroom 'cultivation. I would like to know, what the stra'egy of the Govern (a) wr.ether Mushroom cultivation has ment is to encourage cultivation of mush been taken up in ~ome States under cent rooms, at least from the laboratory to the rany sponsored scheme; farm. Is there any model demonstration and training .;entre for large scale opera (b) if so, the names of the States tions 1 Is there any high technology where such scheme has been launc~)ed ; mushroom production centre in the country? If so, may I know with the (c) whether Government have a pro help of these, whether the production has posal to extend Mushroom cuJtivation to gone up in the last five years? some more States jg 1985-86; and S. BUTA SINGH: The bon. lady (d) if so, the name of the States Member has raised a very important ident:fied and funds earmarked for Mush question. There is no doubt that mush room cultivation in 1985-86 ? rOom is a highly skilled cultivation ••• (Interruptions). I am going to teU the THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE hon. House the main constraints in AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (S. growing mushroom. They are: Inade BUTA SINGH): (a) No~ Sir. quate knowledge of mushroom cultivation among the cultivators; insufficient supply (b) Does not arise. of compost to tbe growers. It requires heavy investment on equipment, buildings, (c) and \d). There is no proposal for transport, etc; lack of infrastructure for any Centrally Sponsored Scheme for handling and transporting of mushroom exterlsion of mushroom cult:vz.tion in the to distant markets; cost of cultivation of S~o leSe however, a project has been pre mushroom is very high due to composting and Jow productivity. Therefore, the p~red for assistance from Netherlands Government for promotion of mushroom demand for this is confined to compara cultivation in the States of Uttar Pradesh, tively well off sections of society. Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir and Karnataka. TLe proposed assistance As Shri Bhagwat Jha Azad was saying, from Natherlands Government is for an it goes only to a few botels .•. amount of 37. ~ 0 lakh Dutch Guilders (about Rs. 1 .25 crores) with the States' SHRI BHAGWAT JHA AZAD: I contribution of Rs. 1.44 crores for a said that there was skill required in period of four years. eating and Dot growing.
SHRIMATJ JAYANTI PATNAIK: S. BUTA SINGH: A part or it is Mushrooms are rich in food value as also exported. 13 Oral Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (S4KA) Oral Answers 14
The hone lady Member wanted to khow distributed to all the centres. I am sorry the research aspect of it, what has been to Sqy that mu~hroom could not be grown done and what i'S being proposed for in almost all the States. It is to be increasing the mushroom cultivation in the grown in the States which are ideaBy country. suited climatical1y. We are trying to increase the cultivation of mushroom both PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: with the research of our own scientists The growth of ruling party is like and with the cooperation of Netherland that. Government.
S. BUTA SINGH: But it is most SJ-:RIMATI JAYANTI PATN~IK: It scientific. is good that after the technology is found out it will be distributed to other parts A national centre has been started in of the country. There is no doubt that 1983 in Solan This covers survey and this is a profitable business. J would like collection of naturally grown mushroom to know, since mushroom cultivation can species because we have to develop species be taken up profitably in small households which are grown in given ctimatic con and C.ln '-nsure a good deJ.I of profit to ditions. The types to be identified are the cultivators, whether poor cultivators edible ones and non-edible ones: to work in and around urb3.n consuming centres out and standardise technology on all are being encouraged to grow mushroom aspects of r;ultivation, product jon and as part of the poverty eradication pro post-harvest handling; to screen and gramme. If so, what are the te(;hn~cal evaluate high yielding strains of paddy and financial assistance given to them; straw mushrooms to train scientists, ann if not, whether the Central Govern growers in mushroom cultivation. ment would accord priority to this pro gramme under tbe income generating The hon. lady 'Member wanted to know scheme like the Prime Minister's massive tJe progress made so far. We h~ve a programme for development of agriculture collection of over 80 strains of mushroom and irrigation. during the last five years. These have been picked up from these areas where S. BUTA SINGH: \Ve are giving these are grown naturally. These are more importance to the coarse grains and also being studied and screened for their pulses which are consumed by the rural edible qualities and other characters. people of India. Mushroom is, as I told Attempts are also being made to intensify you, a highly skil ed crop. It cannot be cultivation of another very important grown by each an~l every farmer espedally precious mushroom called gllchhi. This the small and m:uginal farmers who form prized strain for export is found growing about 74 per cent of our farming com in natural conditions in Jammu & Kashmir ... munity. But this does not mean that we are not doing anything. l'rlushroc'ffi growth is picking up. We have a natioJ3.1 SHRI G.G. SWELL: Instead of centre at So!an and there is a sub-centre reading it here, he could send the papers at Shillong. My hOD. fri~ad was very to us for reading. keen to know about this. We are t:ying to decentralise research 0n mushroom S, BUTA SINGH: These are the growth in a!!nost an parts of the country results drawn from the research. They where it can be grown are not grown in Meghalaya. Therefore, this has to be mentioned. ~fR. SPEAKER: hlr. AmaI Datta wiH grow in his field. There has been a static growth of mushroom in the country. With the SHRI A~1AL DATTA: Sir. if I corning up of this national project at could gro~ enough mushronrn I don"t Solan I am sure the technology win be need to d·) anything else. 15 Oral Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Oral Answers 16
MR. SPEAKER: Is it? (a) the main objectives of the cent rally sponsored scheme for estabJishment SHRI AMAL DATTA: Sir, will the of farmers agro.service centres for custom hone Minister confirm that after efforts of hiring and popularisation of improved decades we are today growing ab ,)ut a animal drawn impJements launched in thousand tonnes of mushroom in this 1983-84 : country whereas in a various fOreign countries, particularly China, which has' (b) whether it is a fact that in most taken up scientific mushroom growth of the States, the scheme was either tarted about 4 or 5 years ago, they are already late or has not been implemented at all; growing about bundreq thousand tonnes and of mushroom of which more than sixty per cent is experted. There is, therefore, (c) if so, the details thereof? a very large export market for mushroom. In India where we have got temperate climate like the sub-Himalayan region we THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE have got an enormous territory where we AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (S. can grow much more than a hundred BUTA S[NGH): (a) to (c). A State thousand tonnes of mushroom provided ment is given below. the laboratories do not confine their acti vities within their own campuses but go Statement out to teach the people how to grow mushroom and also the Govl;!rnment ( a) The Centrally Sponsored Scheme arranges for marketing of the same. was launched in December, 1983 with the WiIl the Government take the necessary objective of making available the facility steps to do sO ? of improved animal drawn agricultural implements and hand tools to the small s. BUTA SINGH: Yes Sir; I have and marginal farmers, particularly in dry given the answer to the main question. land areas. The three integrated com. The hon. Member wanted to know the ponents of the scheme are : total production. The total production is 1,120 tonnes out of which about (i) Establishment of farmers' agro 50 tonnes are exported. It is true, as service centres for custom hiring; compared to other countries like China, we are very behind. So far as the distri (ii) Demonstrations; and bution of research at various centres is concerned, as I told you, 5 States have already been included and we will include (iii) Distribution of improved agricul as many of the Sta tes as possible. The tural implements and hand tools States are not showing enough interest at subsidised rates. because it is a highly skilled crop and individual farmers will have to be (b) & (c). An the three components induced: It requires a heavy dose of of the scheme referred to in (a) above investment. were to be impleme'lted in 9 States, namely, Andbra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, So far as research in concerned, we are Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, Maha. as good as any other country induding rashtra, Orissa, Tamil Nadu and Uttar China. Pradesh. In the remaining 13 States, only the third component i.e. distributio'D of improved agricultural implements and Farmers Agro-Service Centres hand tools at subsidised rates was to be implemented. *371. SHRI LAKSHMAN MAL LICK: Will the Minister of AGRICUL 18 States and one Union Territory TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT have begun implementing the project, as be pleased to state : detailed in the atta'ched statement. The 1 7 Oral Answer.r SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SACA) Oral AIUWet'8 18 project was sanctioned by tbe Government tbey are required to bear 50% of the or India only in January, 1984, and tbe cost. It is clear tbat a vast majority of States have taken somc time to examine the States have begun participating in the the feasibility of tbeir participation, since project.
Annexure
Progress In the lmpkmenlation 01 the Scheme
A. Progress fn the States where all tbe three components were sacntioned by the
Ministry. C/
States Farmers Demonstrations Implements and Agro conducted tools distributed Service Centres established
(1) (2) (3) (4) 1. Maharashtra 39 5362 2. Orissa 7 702 69587 3. Tamil Nadu 72 2868 IS786 4. Uttar Pradesh 4 476 12702 S. Assam 14 214 - 6. Madhya Pradesh 260 3324
B. Progress in the States where only one componented was sanctioned by tho Ministry.
States/UTa. Number of implements and band tools distributed 1. Gujarat 71672 2. Haryana 162 3. Himachal Pradesh 162 '. Rajasthan 1602 5. Kerala 84
C. The following States bave indicated that the have commenced impJementatiOil of tbe schcme durio. tbe current year 1985-86 and their proaress reports are awaited: 1. Andhra Pradesh 2. Bihar 3. Karnataka 4. Maaipur S. l'anjab t;. Jammu & ICaabmir 7. Weat Beapl SBRI.LAKSHMAN· MALLICK t_ 1," knbw::;frOrrl'; lIfe "'bon':'; ·;Mtnister, 'die' baw, gene through the statement· of' reaction of tbe' Government on 'that priinf?" the~DJ ;Minister'that the main objoaive, • ~ ~ ',], ~ • Ir ' .. ; J, ,: ~~ • t£' of the scheme is to provide improved s.~· BuTA :SlNGH .. :: Sir', '''we "had' implements to the small and marginal envisaged that the State Agro.. lnduCitries farmers in the dryland areas. Sir it is Corporations would take up manu known that there are some blocks which ,," facturing of improved a~ricultural have been identified for dryJand ~c~ lti:-- implements and 'band tools in a big way. vatioD. There has not t>een much But we are rather pnhappy with the pr~s~ in this directiQll. Also no itl\p1ementation 'of' these targets because facilities have been given in respect of most of tbe State A'8ro~Industries making available of improved implements Corporations have not started manu to ~I;te, spmll .and, marginal farmers. May facturing these implements. They purchase I kppw, !~~,m, tbe hone Minister the total tbC'm from the open market and sell them number of such blocks j'dentified under to the farmers. The get their margin the scheme and the total Dumber of out of those things and the subsidy is agro service centres which have been , misused. fet up '1 What I want to know is , total number of blocks and total number of agro service centres. Therefore, we are now, in the Seventh Five Year Plan, trying:' to see that the Agro-Industries CorporatiOD$ set up S.'_ '-BUTA SINGH In the their own units and we will be having Sixth ·Five-year Plan, the scheme was a c]ose monitoring system of the manu extended, to many areas. The total factur lng of these implements which physical outlay envisaged was about have already been found, very useful 1200 agro service centres in 600 through various demonstrations. In bloc~s. Target of demonstrations of the Eastern sector, speciaHy, the bullock tools and implements was 48,000. drawn implement are becoming more popuJar~~ation of 2.5 1 laks improved and more popular and we have to give jmpl~ments' 'an'd 4.6 lath' hand tools a big thrust in introducing latest agri were to be sold on subsidised prices. cultural implements and tools in bringing If tbe hon. Member wants to know the modern cultivation in the backward areas. S~w~ break .. up, I will read out.
MR. 7~"SPBAKER : You lay it on SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY : tbe Tabfe of tbe HOtHe. -SiT, even after 38 years of independence, the most neglected sector is dry land farm SHRI LAltSHMAN MALLICK : My ing. No research has been made in regard second supplementary would be this. to the implements 8peci~Jly suitable for The State Agro-industry Corporations the dry land cultivation: Only tractors, have been set up for developing and power tillers and all the equipment manufacturing suifabIe equipments) which are not useful to . the dry Jand promotion 'of agro-based industries, farming and which are costly and ditOlbutfon ' Of :agricirltural inputs and uneconomical to 1he dry land pfOY'idm!' custom, biriflg services, tbrough farmers are maoQfactured. Actually. the Farmers' Agro Service Centres to the the implements which are handy to the farmers But it is reported that majority farmers, sp~~jal1y the small farmers of the Sta tes Agro-Industry Corporations have not been so far m3nufactured and have been keeping themselves engaged the Government· has oot taken any step in the work of the distribution of inputs towards this,Oirec,tioD. rather than performing the basic objectives of the scheme. 1 want to kllOw from the hon Minister whettJer ~ the 'Government js ~oing to Some of the State Corporations are Cbnder fssuing': of licences to those thou not manufacturing the implements sands o! ll8ti<:ultural graduates and agro according to the lSI standard.. May I engineering graduates who are unemployed -21 SRAV4NA %8~ 1'O:1'(SAKA)
to take up manufacture of implements for the,: farm implemcn~Tf toot.' \ Md suitable to the small and m~rginal ~~hines ,~,organised _t Hi""r, ,in farmers, ,:and other agro.based· ~er¥ice ~.bich ,various tnstitutes~ Agencie$:,_~ and centres ,in rural. areas.. Instead, ()f ~~, fatmer~ tbemse~ves havo ; parUcipateci. providing lobi. it is better to encourage Such ·like Exhibitions ,~ill. _~~~w d ,be the unemployed -agrioulttlral graduates, encouraged in almost,aU the States. veterinary graduates and agro-engineering !)Jraduates in areas to go ,into the rural Grant of Financial A1Bistance to c0- manufacture of implements useful to operative spinning mills in the small and marginal farmers.' I also Maharasbtra want to know from the hone Minister as to what steps he 'is proposing to take during this y~:'r and during *372. SHRI BANWARI LAL the Seventh Five Year Plan. While PUROHIT Win tbe Minister of AGRICULTURE AND kURl\L I. was discussing with the hone -DBVB LOPMENT be pleased to' state: Prime Minister, be told me, "He is taking enough measures during the Seventh Plan for the benefit of' tbe (a) whether the Maharashtra Govern farmers'-. I want to kuow what are ment have asked the Central Gove.mnl~t the measures he is going to take for the to grant financial assistance to" 2'0 implementation of these schemes. cooperati ve spinning mills in the State ;"
MR. SPEAKER : This is two-way (b) whether it is a fact that the traffic, you see. He is giving information National Cooperative Development Cor as well as getting information. poration. New Delhi has agreed to sanction financial assistance to only six mills and one mill is assisted by World s. BUTA SINGH : Sir, we have Bank through the National Cooperativo already asked the State Governments to Development Corporation ; see that 30% of the budget of the Agro industries Corporation is utilised agri cultural engineering activities (c) if so, whether Central Govemmeot including for the manufacturing of the propose to grant fina1lCia1 assistaBCC latest agricultural implements, speciaHy to the remaining 13 mills ; and for the small and marginal farmers. (d) if so, by when and if not, the reasons therefor We have constituted a National Level ? Committee to review the agricultural implements and this Committee will THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL Dot only review but also release some latest TURE AND RURAL DBVELOPMBNT improved implements and tools which bave (8. BUTA SINGH) : (a) The Govern been developed for the relief and use ment of Maharashtra had requested tbe of the small and marginal farmers in National' Cooperative Development the dry land areas. Corporation (NCDC) for financial assistance to 22 new cooperative spinning mins during the 6th Plan. We have also requested tbe Central Institute of Agricultural Engineering and (b) The programme in tbe 6th Plan other leAR Institutes and Agricultural envisaged setting-up of 6 new cooperative Universities to develop prototypes of spinning mills in Mabarasbtra. As appropriate types of imploments and against tbis, NCDC has provided financial tools not only mechanical but also assistance for 7 new mills including 1 hand-operated for tbe people wbo have mill assist.cd under tbe World Bank Dot been able to buy the tractors and Programme. other big machines. (c) and (d). Some of the cooperative A national-level Exhibition ex.clusively spinning mills already assisted by NCDC 23 01'Gl~8 AUGUST 19, 198' Oral Answer3 24
are yet to receive term loans from tbe [English] -financing institutions. Assistance from NCDC for more spinning mills will S. BUTA SINGH: As I mentioned primarily depend on availability of term there are to kinds of spinning m;lI~ Joan from tbe financing institutions to coming uP. One is sponsored by the meet the requirements of the 6 tb Plan srowers and tbe other by the weavers. units as also for the new minI to be set up in the 7th PJan. Our Ministry is concernrd wifh tbe mills coming up j D tbe growers' sector.
[Translatlon1 The spinning mills in the weavers sector are looked after by the Mini~try of SHRI BANWARI LAL )PUROHIT : Industry. Mr, Speaker, Sir, if the reply given by the hone Minister to my question, is As I mentioned, out of the mills that allowed to remain as it is, it would be a the Maharashtra Government sponsore,d to big jolt to the co-operative movement. us,. -they had asked for six new mills "These Co-operative Spinning Mi)]s in which are covered by the target set by Maharashtra are, in fact, the mills of the Government of lnd ia, Ministry of Agri cotton growers and the weavers and the cu]ture- one Dew mill bas been covered farmers had promoted these co-operative under the world Bank Project. This was Spinnin& Mills by mobilising Rs. 200 to the number given to us by the Maha 400 as share capital in each village during rashtra Government. 1980 to 1984. I want to submit to the hioD. Minister only this much that ever snnce he had announced, the new policy The share contributed by the NCDC, ih the House on 21st August. 1984 I am afraid, is determined taking into tpereby mClking it compulsory for the consideration the over-all picture of the Sinning Mills to get licence, they are in country. These are fixed in consultation a' big crisis. Whereas, a Spinning Mill with the Ministry of Textiles and, in costs about Rs. 10 crores. and they do not isolation our Ministry cannot increase the seek much from you, only 50 per cent same because these are found to be satis equity debt ratio is there and these Co factory and in Mabarasbtra, cooperative operati ve Spinning Mills need Joans worth mil1s have been doing quite \feU under Rs. 5 to 5 crores only, why can't you the present system. If the hon. Member give just Rs. 4 to 5 crores to these Co or the hon, House wants to revise it. we operative Spinning Mills of weavers, far can consider the suggestion but at the mers and cotton growers when you moment we have been abie to meet the provide Rs. 200 crores to Rs. 300 crores full requirement of the Maharashtra to the big industries and big indus Government in terms of VI Plan target. trialists through tbe banks? I canDot understand what is the impediment in [Translation] giving such a sman amount. Therefore, I once arain submit that there Co-operative SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT: Spinning Mills are now facing two types Mr. Speaker, Sir, these remaining 13 or of problems-the first being of licensing 15 miHs have already taken all effective in view of the Dew policy. Arrangements steps; they have raised share capital, may be mace to the issue licences to the purchased lands and some of them have mills which have taken effective steps, have even constructed their buildings. If now, mobilised share capital and purchased they are not given money:. what "'ill be land, secondly, these Co-operative mills, the position of the promoters and how whenever they are-tt,e Prime will you repose confidence in the farmers Minister is sitting here and I am req ues and in the cooperative movenlent? ting bim on behalf of cotton growers of Therefore, I would like to know frOiD Mahara~ htra-should also be provided the hone Minister that with a view a loan of Rs. 4 to 5 crores which they to strengthening the co-opera live sector need. which is the policy of the Government"- , 25 Oral A1Uwers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Oral Answers 26
will be consider it seriously and arrange be given only six mills and in addition to provide money to them ? .. we have covered one mill under the (Interruptions) World Bank loan.
S. BUT A SINGH: A total pro vision of Rs. 47 crores was made during [TranoSlation] thc .. Sjxtb Five Year Plan, of which Rs. SHRI GIRDHARI LAL VYAS: Mr. 16 crores were spent in Maharashtra Speaker, Sir, through you, I want to alone. know from the hon. Minister the numb~r of Cooperative Spinning MHis Slate-wise, [English] recommendations for whose development were received from the States and Thjs shows that the Government of how many of them were approved by India is very liberal and hel pfuI towards you? I want to know specifically about the growers' cooperative spinning mills Rajasthan. The recommendations which in Maharashtra. Sir, these Dorms arc were sent for Aseen and Shahpura Co fixed jointly by the Ministry of Textiles operative Spinning Mills in my district and Ministry of Agriculture in consul have not been accorded approval so fir. tation with the PJanning Commission. The change which }OU have brought about (Interruptions) in the policy is not providing belpfLlI. Therefore, will you approve the settiog (Trallsla tion] up of cooperative Spinning Mills pro moted by the growers by changing this MR. SPEAKER: During the Ques policy and by providing adequate money? tion Hour, the Speaker only looks, he The amount of Rs. 4 7 crures which you does not listen. ha ve fixed is not goin g to meet the requirement of Cooperative Spinning SHRIMATI PREMALABAI CHA- Mills all over the country. Therefore, I VAN: Mr. Speaker, Sir, as the hone request you to increase this amount. Minister has just now stated, I know Besides, you should approve the Maharashtra's demand is very high but setting up of all Cooperative they specialise in textiles production. Spinning Mills, the demand for which Therefore, I would like to know from the have been received by you-particularly hon. Minister whether he would consider from Rajasthan, because the Textile giving licences to the remaining Spinning Policy you have framed gives higher Mills in Maharashtra during the Seventh priority to the handloom. If the Co Five Year Plan? operative Spinning Mills are not set uP, yarn will 110t be available. I request the hon. Minister to accord approval for Besides, a new technology has been setting up of Cooperative Spinning introduced under which not only can be Mills in Rajasthan, whatever be their used but, a lot of use can be made of number. waste cotton also. Therefore, I want to know whether licences for that will also be issued? S. BUTA SINGH: Mr. Speaker Sir, the hon. Member had asked the question [English] about Maharashtra. Sinc~, this is the S. BUTA SINGH: Sir, as I have question relating to Rajasthan, you and already nlentioned, against original outlay me cannot lag behind. \Ve have accepted of 47 crOTes, nearly 1 3 crores. were a proposal which we had received from riven to Maharashtra. We had increased Rajasthao. A mill in Rajasthan will get this from Rs. 20 crores to Rs. 47 crores fuJI assistance from N.C.D.C. Sfr, as I and in case any mills are erltitJed we will said earlier_so far as the cri~erion is con definitely extend this kind of service to cerned, the \V0rking Group of the D~part .. them but it depends on the availability of ment of Textiles has laid down four typ~s resources. The State Governnlent cou'd Qf criteria for the States. 27 Oral AIU'Wr.t : AUGUST ~,9,,19~S,
(EngJish] foUowing' ~riteria: for alJoc:atioa" of-new The .Working Group Set up by the Cooperative LSpiODiog MUls in·. tbo. Si&~ Department of Textiles kept in view the Plan:
1. States having large concentration of handloolDS, but
(a) presently having no cooperative (i) Assam' Spinning Mills organised in the (ii) Bihar handloom seeter. (iii) Manipur (iv) Tripura
(b) The existing spinoing capacity (i) West Bengal in tbe hand100m weavers' (ii) Orissa sector inadequa te in relation to (iii) Kerala tbe number of handlooms. (iv) Uttar Pradesh'
2. States growing large quantity of cotton, but
(a) Presently having no spinning (i) Madhya Pradesh mill organised in the growers' sector.
(b) The existing spinning capacity (i) Haryana in the growers sector inade (ii) Rajasthan quate in relation to cotton (iii) Punjab p.roductioD. (iv) Gujarat
PROF. N.G. RANGA; What about Andhra Pradesh?
S. BUTA SINGH: I am coming to that.
3. Spinning mills of cotton growers (i) Andhra Pradesh or bandloom weavers keeping in (ii) Kamataka view tbe local needs and policy of (jj i) Mabarasbtra the~State Governments. (iv) Tami1 Nadu.
SHRI S.M. GURADDI : How many Employment of Women in Electronics Cooperative Spinning Mills are there in Industry 'Maharasbtra and how many are working properly '1 And how many Cooperative *373. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Spinning mills are working in loss and, Will tbe Minister of LABOUR be pleased if so what is the reason for this loss. . , to state: s. BUTA SINGH: At tbe moment, according to tbe information that is avail (a) whether Government are aware able with me, 26 Mills are in Maha that the expanding electronics industry rashtra out of 82 mills of the country. provides greater job opportonities for In regard to their profitability or loss or women; otherwise, I am sorry at tbis moment, I do not have the statistics. I r.an send it (b) if so, tbe steps. being taken in tbe to tbe boo. Member if required. industrial training institutes to traiD 29' Oral ']fnswers " SRAVANA-28; t901(S4f(A) Oral A1t8Wtrl 30
wOll'ied tor these jdb opportanitie~- and SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: Sir, I am glad that provisions fot' training F' '_- _.(~ ) wll~th~, ,,(1Iectro~ics' industrial women in various skills have been made. u~ts, wQuld, pc ~ld t~ ,employ women in I would like' to know from the bon. JarBF prop,Oftion ? Minister whether tbe Ministry is aware that many employers work in electronics industry mainly because the employers THE MINISTER OF' STATE OF have a prejudice and do not want to THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI extend benefits like maternity benefit and , T~'ANJIAH): (a) to (c). -A state in view of this., whether will in struet ment is given below. Factory Inspectorate and Shops and Establishments to monitor the employ Statement ment of women in electronics industrial units and enquire into cases of discrimi . There' are 128 Industrial Training nation? Institutes for Women. In addition, there are 70 I.T.Is having Women's Wing. The [Translation] total,~ating capacity of these Institutes is 14573. SHRI T. ANJIAH: All right, we shall order an inquiry .••.•• A number of trades suited to women have been identified for introduction in the (Interruptions) I.T .Is. Under these, the fonowing pertain to the field of Electronics :- MR. SPEAKER: He has said that (i) TV Mechanic (Service & Repair) inquiry will be held.
(ii) Tape Recorder Service and main .. [English] teoace (D~mestic) SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA : I (iii) Electronic Instrulllents would like to know wbetl:ler any assess-' ment of the jobs likely to be created (iv) Medical Electronics Equipment during the Seventh Plan ,bas been made. Maintenance, I would also like to know wbether Government ,are satisfied that there would (v) Data Preparation Assistant. be enough trained women -personnel for employment in various industries. (vi) Console Operator cum-Program , mer Assistant. [Translation]
These trad~s have already been brought' SHRI T. AN~IAH: Mr. Speaker, Sir, to 'the notice of the State Governments for the time being. plan is being form,! .. with 'the 'request to undertake a quiCk lated for about 2 lakh women. survey of the traming needs i'n the' trades concerned. Besides, training is already' being 'imparted in the trades of Mecha.. [ Elfglirh] nic"; Radio' &, T.V. '& Mec'haoic-~Iectronjcs' SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: ,Sir, is in the I.T.ls and in the trades 'of ~Electro it a fact that the job opportunities for Die Mechanic and Meekhanjc Radio and the women are gradOally' shrinking ,in Radar (Air-craft) uDder" the ApprtntiCe .. Coaf India Limited, one of-- the ~:pub;jc sjlip Training Scheme, ,For upgrading seci6r undertakings? The w()meo workers the' skins' of 'women~ 'Advanced Coorses are being forced to' go on voluntary reti're- ~ Will the Government issue claer ins SHRI T. ANJIAH = Only we will give tructions not only with regard to electro instructions, but it is not possible to bring nics industry, but with regard to other forward a Bill. sectors also? .• (blterruptians) THE PRIMB MINISTER (SHRI MR. SPEAKER: I will not allow RAJIV GANDHI): We are going to do this. everything we can possibly to help women get employment, At the same time, KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE ; bringing forward a specific Bin which Our Prime Minister is very much interes would imply reservation might not be cor ted in the upliftment of women, and aft~r rect, as it would insult the dignity of be bas taken over as Prime Minister, he women. If you talk to some women, bas already announced free secondary you wiJJ find that most women do feel education (or women and the Ministry of like this. Social Welfare has now been made as the Ministry of Social and Women's Welfare. AN HON. MEMBER: No, Sir, This is a Women's Decade. SHRI RAllV GANDHI: Well. it is MR. SPEAKER: Are you putting a our assessment that women do Dot want question concerned with the main ques reservation ... (Interruption.~). Do you tion, or are you on somewhere else? Put want my assessment or do you want the a relevant question. answer tbat you want? KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: My assessment is that women do not This is a Women's Decade and Interna want specific reservation as it hurts their tional Youth Year. Shrimati Indira dignity and it would not be correct. We Gandhi bad ratified ILO Convention No. are doing everything we can to help women 100 regarding right to equal wages for - get employment starting with better educa _omen. Have the Government any pro tion; that is where the root of tbe whole posal to create more and more employ thing is. We· are going to take steps ment opportunities for women to ensure much greater than have been taken to the right of equal opportunities ~or date in both educating women. preparing women? them for jobs and in actually pUiD, them employed. MR. SPEAKER: This is a simple question concernjng employment oppor MR. SPEAKER: That is rigbt. tunities for women in electIonics indus trial units. No, this is not relevant to SHRIMATI GBETA MUKHERJEE: the main question. Let us have an Half-an-Hour discussioD on this. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI: She is an 'electronics. MR. SPEAKER: There is DO time; women. DCxt aession. fjJ 33. Oral Answers SRAVANA 28,1907 (S4KA) Oral Answer8 34 Telecast of Educat.onal and Area and would be provided under the new Specific Programmes Education Policy ? *374. PROF. NARAIN CHAND SHRI V.N. GADG[L Sir, with the PARASHAR: Will the Minister of expansion of the T. V. network, where we INFORMATION AND BROADCAST have now 176 transmitters, it will be ING be pleased to state : possible to transmit and telecast number of educational programmes. (a) . whether the educational and area specific programmes are being telecast in PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA Andhra Pradesh, Orissa, Mabarashtra, SHA R! May I know whether, since the U . p. Bihar and Gujarat ; introdu~tion of this programme, any q uali ty review and the. content re~ iew of (b~ if so, whether any more States the programme have been undertaken so are also pro'posed to be covered under as to make the necessary innovatioos and these programmes during the first and the modifications from time to time in these subsequent years of the Sev~nth Five programmes which are being telecast? Year Plan; (c) if so, the details in this re SHH.I V.N. OADGIL :' As tbe bon. gard ; and Member knows, the educational pro grammes are mainly devised by the Ministry of Education, the University (d) if not, the reasons therefor? Grants CommisSion, ·NCERT and other instItutions. As far as the area specific THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE programm~s are concerned, which are MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND mainly rural oriented, development-orient. BROADC \STING tSHRI \/ .N. GAD ed, a constant review is undertaken. GIL): (a) Yes, Sir, The' Educational TV Programmes in Hindi has also been extended to the States of Madhya Pradesh [Translation] 'and Rajasthan. SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI CHATUR VEDI: Me. Speaker, first of all I am (b) No Sir, thankful to the hone Minister that he has included some other States also under this (c) Does not arise. programme, but the States which ue being included or tbose where this pro (d) Further expansion of e.ducatioD.al gramme is already goiog on are very and area speeific programmes via satellite backward; and tbe areas where you pro is not possible during the Seventh Five pose to extend educational facilities do Year Plan due to limIted availability of Dot have Doordarshan Relay Centres TV transponders in INSAT -I group of through whicb the backward and ignored . Satellites, people could get benefits. Therefore, I want to know whether you will soon meet tbe requirements of the areas which do PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA not have Doordarshan K.endras ? Bundel SHAR: Since only eight large States khand, Chbatarpur and Tikamgarh are of the country are covered by tbe telecast, such areas. Will you kindly give them and there are technical difficulties as priority? pOinted out by the hone Minister~ may I kd'ow if tbe hOD. Minister will find a substitute programme for the remaining [ERg/ish] States, so tbat the States which are not SHRI V.N~ GADGIL Sir, what you covered by these programmes are not characterise as a usual reply # I will have left behind in tbe matter of various edu to give. The Seventh Plan is not ready, cational inputs that are being provided so, 1 cannot say anything just DOW. Oral Answe,s 36 35 Oral Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 [TranslationJ these agencies purchased wheat through middlemen instead of direct purchases MR. SPEAKER You ask your the farmets ; question, Mr. Munsi your hand poses a from danger. It is aJways UP. (c) whether there have also been irregularities at the purchase centres in [English] those States ; SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI' Sir, I want to know from the hon, Minis-' ter whether on every Sunday when the (d) whether any inquiry has since students are at home~ he will consider to been conducted ; and teach the children and the young stu dents, computer science through television (e) action taken in regard thereto? as is being taught to the children both in China and Japan. Also, I would like to THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND know whether be will be kind enough to CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA tell why the Prime Minister's speech from SINGH): (a) No, Sir. the Red Fort was not telecast from Patoa as has been reported in the newspapers. (b) In Punjab and Haryana, public agencies procure wheat, normally, through Kacha Arhtias. Similarly, in Uttar SHRI V.N. GADGIL: As far as Pradesh, it is the normal practice to the first part of the question is concerned, procure wheat through Village Vyaparis. one serial on computer was shown in Hindi also. As regards the other part it is a very good suggestion and we shali (c) to (e), No irregularites in the certainly consider it. purchase of wheat by the Centres have been reported. With regard to Patna, I have called for a report. When the report comes I SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH will be in a posi tion to say whether a~d MALIK: Sir, the answer given by the why the telecast did not go. bOD. Minister is negative. There have been serious alJegations of various Purchase of wheat at rates lower than irregularities committed by the FCI, the fixed pr ice including under.. payments, purchases through middlemen, pilferage of huge stocks and unsuitable conditions for + keeping the acquired wheat. This has *375. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINGH been brought to the notice of this MALIK: august House on several occasions but SHRI M. RAGHUMA instead of Jooking into these allegations REDDY: and devising corective steps, tbe Minister have always- been trying to defend FCI. Will the Minister of FOOD AND Therefore, through you, Sir, I would CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : like to ask the hon. Minister whether he would agree to an impartial enquiry into my alJegations because these (a) whether it has come to the notice a) legations are based on my personal of Government that in some States like knowledge. All the Members know Uttar Pradesh. Haryana and Punjab the that all these things are happening. The Food Corporation of India and other traders purchase wheat at lower price agencies purchased wheat at the rate of and next day they sell it to the FeI or Rs. 1 45 to 1 50 qu in tal instead of Rs to other agencies at a higher price, but 157 per quintal fixed by Government; . they will not sell it in the name of the traders, they will sell it in the name of (b) whether it is also a fact that the farmers. 3 7 Written Answer, SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answ~s 38 RAO BIRENDRA SINGH : Sir, I Scheduled Caste and 2,0 1,297 Scheduled have given the reply after verification Tribe families have been allotted hoose of all facts from tbe FCI itself which sites upto March, 1985. is a corporation, and also after enquiries from the State Governments concerned. (c) Total Dumber of rural landless FeI has a sma Her number of pu'?-chase families provided with free house-sites centres in the three major State producing till March, 1985, as reported by the wheat. In UP, for instance, out of about State Government is 8,48,991 which 4',880 centres, the FeI operates in only includes the figures of Scheduled Castes! 356 centres, The State agencies which Scheduled Tribes landless families also. operate in UP have 4,528 centres. Similarly, in Haryana, the number of Centres by the Felli 0 during this Evaluation of Poverty Eradication August season, whereas the State PrOgramme agencies had 1 50 centres. In Punjab, the FeI had 347 centres, whereas other *377. SHRI RAM PUJAN PATEL: agencies of the State Government had 570 Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE centres. So far as the FCI is concerned. AND RURAL DEVELOPMBNT be pleased to state : MR. SPEAKER Question Hour is over. (a) whether one development block of each district will be selected for assessing the progress made in tbe WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS programme started by Government for lifting the people above the poverty line; :lnd [English) 'Provision of free bouse sites to (b) whether the assessment report landless in Gujarat will be placed on the Table of the House show whether the poor ,have benefited *376. SHRI RANJIT SINGH with the public money spent and if so, by GAEKWAD : Will the Minister of what percentage ? WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER FOR AGRICUL TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT ( a) number of rural landless families (S. BUTA SINGH) : (a) There is in Gujarat State; DO such proposal. However, a process of monthly concurrent evaluation or (b) number of Scheduled Castes and IRD P is being initiated through sample Scbeduled Tribes landless families in studies. The details of this are being Gujarat State who have 'been provided with worked out. free house sites upto tbe end of March 1985 ; and (b) No, Sir. (c) Dumber of rural landless families who were also provided with free house ProductloD Centres of Language Prograaame sites till March 1 98 S ., THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- *378. SHRI G.O. SWELL : Win the Minister of INFORMATION AND MENTARY AFFAIRS (SURI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) As estimated by the BROADCASTING ~ pleased to stato : Government of Gujarat, the number or such families is 8,65,983. (a> whether State Capitals have demanded that there should be baso (b) According to tbe reports received centres in each State Capital for productjon from the State Government, 1,7 S,010 of language proaramme ; 39 Written A~3 AUGUST 1 9. 1985 Written Answers 40 (b) his reaction thereto ; and 'urban land prices is attributable to several reasons such" as the prevailing (c) the likely period when such base infiationery trends in tho economy the centres are likely to come into existence ? existence ,of black money, in-fto~ of fO,r.eign remittances and shortage in the availability of serviced urban land to THE MINISTER OF STATE OF meet the increasing demand. . THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADOIL): (a) Yes, Sir. . " Cc) No evidence to this effect is available with the Government. (b) and (c). "Establishment of studio centres at State capita1s the key-stone (d) Land, housing a'nd urban develop . of Doordarshan expansion plan. Pro ment are State subjects. A number of gramme production facilities are already measures have been adopted by the State ~vailabIe in the capitals of 11 States! Government for controlling land prices. Union Territories. Whereas setting up The principal amongst these are to of s~udio centres in 6 other State capitals increase supply of development land is under implementation, action has been and' houses through public agencies at initiated for upgradation of facilities at 7 reasonable costs. existing centres. The issue, however,' needs greater consideration for providing more housing Rise in Urban Land Prices facilities including plots at reasonable prices. *3 7 9. SHRI SATYENDRA NARA Y AN SINHA : Win the Minister of Wage Board for Sugar Industry WORKS AND HOUSI,NG be pleased to state: *380. SHRI INDRAJIT GtJl>TA Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased (a) whether urban land prices have risen by over 1 00 per cent in the last to state: five years as per a survey conducted by' the Town and Country Planning Organis ( a) whether a wage board has been ation ; set up for the Sugar Industry; (b) if so, the reasons thereof; (b) if so, the composition and terms of reference of the board; (c) whether this price increase had driven out most" colonisers with plans (c) whether trade unions have been to build houses for the weaker ; an"d demanding tripartite negotiation and set tlement instead of non ·statutory wage (d) steps taken to make urban land boards for wage fixation and revision for cheaper in major cities? a long time; THE MINISTER OF PARLIA- (d) whether the trade union organisa MENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. tions were consulted before taking a BHAGAT): (a) and (b). The study decision on setting up wage boards; so, conducted by the Town and Country the details thereof; and Planning Organisation reveals that in al1 major cities has been a general upward (e) jf not, the reasons therefor? trend in tuban land prices ranging between 4% to 60% except in the case of Delhi THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE which has' registered a 100% annual MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. increase in its . urban land prices during ANJIAH) (a) to (e). A statemi,;nt is the period 1980-82. The increase in given below. SRAVANA ~8. 1907 (SA.KA) Written A1ISW6rs 42 Statement of a further revision of the present wage 'structure in the industry vide Resolution No. V. 24030 ! 1/8 5 -WB dated tbe 1 7 tb Government of India have decided to July., t 985 published in the Gazette of set up the Third Wage Board for the India. The Wage Board will have the Sugar Indllstry to consider the quest~on following members :- i. Justice J.L. Taqdon Chairman Retd. Judge of Punjab and Haryaoa High Court 2. Shri D.B .. Kadam. MLA Member Representing National Federation of Co-operative Sugar Factories Ltd. 3. Sbri O.P. Dhanuka, Member Representing Indian Sugar Mills Association. 4" Shri Chandrika Singh Member Representing Indian National Trade Union Congress S. Shri Veerasbwar Tiagi Member Representing the Hindi Mazdoor Sabba While making its recommendations, the delay in the "-~onstitution of the Wage Wage Board shaH keep in view the Board. it was not considered necessary to following :: consult the trade unions organisation. (a) _ To determine the categories of Sale of Rice Mills by FeI employees (Manual, clerical, supervisory etc.) who should be brought within the scope of the *381. SHR[ GURUDAS KAMAT : proposed wage fixation; SHRIMATI GEETA MUKHERJEE: (b) To work out a wage structure based on the princip1.ei of fair wages as set forth in the report of Will the, Minister of FOOD AND the Committee on Fair Wages. CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: (This includes capacity of the industry to pay). (a) whether the Food Corporation of India have decided to sell off all their Of late fr~m the representations received modern rice mills including the profit by Government it appeared that the trade earn ing ones; unions were by and large keen on early constitution of the Wage Board and in (b) if so, the reasons for such a order to protect the interests of the wor decision; kers and in order to maintain industrial harmony ~ Government decided to set up the Third Wage Board. To obviate the (c) the- total number of rice mills 43 Written Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written AIuw.,,,, 44 under FC! and the Dumber of mills run THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT ning into losses; ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA GAT): (a) Yes, Sir. (d) the number of FCI rice mills located in Maharashtra; and (b) Yes, Sir. No specific lapse was noticed in this regard. (e) steps taken by Government to improve the performance of those mills (c) Rules and instructions on the sub which have been running in losses? ject provide for adequate precautions against pooling of tenders. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA Sale of Non-edible and Edible Oils SINGH) : (a) and (b). The Management Allocated to Manipur of the Food Corporations of India have decided to close operations in its Modern Rice Mills and disposed of rice mills in *383. SHRI N. TOMBI S~NGH: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL the Eastern Zone on account of econmic SUPPLIES be pleased to state : non-viability_ (c) The food Corporation of India (a) whether Government are aware have 2S Modern Rice Mills. These are that huge quantities of non-edible and economically and operationally non edible oils allocated to Manipur are sold away before reaching Manipur by tbe viable units. agents; (d) F.C.I. do not have any rice mill in the State of Maharasbtra. (b) whether Government have receiv ed any complaints in tbis regard; and (e) Several steps including adequate ( c) jf so, the action taken in the ~todcing of paddy,' requests to State matter? Governmeot~ for regular supply of power, instal13tion of stand-by diesel generators, .depl~yment of Qualified supervisory staft', THE MINISTER OF . FOOD AND installation of busk fired furnaces etc. CIVIL . SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA Dave been tUCQ f,.O improve their SINGH): (a) and (b). The Central workinB. Government have not received any com plaint in tbis regard. POOIiDg of Tend~ for White Wasblna etc. (c) Doa not arise. *382. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD S,NGH: Will the Minister of WORICS MainteQallce of EnvirolllDeotal Balance AND ROUSING be pleaaed to state : *384. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: Will the Minister of WORKS AND (a) whether in the CPWD, Delhi HOUSING be pleased to state : pooling of tenders for white-waslJiD8 and paintins was under investisation ; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT September, 1 985. A special one-time ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA allocation of 20,000 tonnes of rice was GAT): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. These also made to Karnataka in July, 1985, trends have come to the notice of the in addition to the monthly allocations. Govt. ,To counter these tendencies and The allocations from the Central Pool, to ensure environmental balance further which are made to various states, includ development of these towns is sought to ing Karnataka, on a month to month be regulated in a planned way. This basis, are only supplemental to open aims at preservation of environmental market availability. balance including green belt, ecology and aesthetics of the urban areas. In regard to setting up of new industri~s with Pilot Project for Intensive Rice Cultivation polluting potential, industrial licences are in Orissa being issued only after they are cleared from environmental angle by the com petent State authorities & subject to prescribed terms & conditions to meet *386. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: the standards of preservations of ·ecologi Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE cal and environmental requirements. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : Quota of Rice for Kamataka (a) how many Blocks in Orissa have been taken as a Pilot Project for intensive rice cultivation in the year 1983-84. and *385. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER : what are the names of those bJock·s and Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL what amount has been sanctioned for SUPPLIES be pleased to state: each Block and for how many years; (a) the monthly quota of rice fixed (b) what amount haa been spent in for Karnataka State; each block out of the sanctioned amount in the year 1983-84; and (b) the quantity asked for by Kar nataka Government; and (c) if the entire amount has not been spent, what action is going to be taken? (c) whether Government propose to consider the request of Karnataka Govern. ment and release tbe required quantity of rice to implement the cheap rice Rcbeme THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE for poor by the Karnataka Govern AND 'RURAL DEVELOPMENT (S. ment. BUTA SINGH): (a) In all Seven Blocks were selected for Rice Pilot Project in Orissa during 1984-85 and not in THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND 1983-84. These are SaJipur, Pipili, CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA Simulia, Bhanjnagar. Belguntba. Attabira SINGH): (a) to (c). Against its de and Bhedeo. An amount of Rs. 9.43 mand for allotment of 50,000 tonnes ·of lakh per block was sanctioned for the rice from the Cenfral Pool, the monthly year 1984-85 .. alJocation of rice to Karnataka was increased from 25,000 tonnes in May, J 985, to 30,000 tonnes in June, 1985 (b) An amount of Rs. 56.71 lakh and 32,000 tonnes per month in July, was spent against the sanctioned amount 1985, and August, 1985. This has of Rs. 66 ..0 1 lakh in these blocks. Block. further been raised to 35,000 tonnes for wise expenditure incurred during 19R4-85 47 Wrltl~n Answer. AUGUST 19, 1985 Writtelf A"sw~,.s 48 is given below : Block Expenditure (Rs. Jaths) Salipur 8.40 Pipili 9.43 Simulia 8.58 Bbanjnagar 5.70 B~lguntha 5.50 Attabira 9.50 Bbeden 9.60 -_....,._-- Total 56.71 Jakh (c) The unspent amount' will be spices, tobacco etc., apart from planta adjusted towards the Government of tion crops of tea and coffee. Recently it India's share in the future release of has also emerged as an exporter of raw funds to Orissa. cotton, basmati rice and wheat. (C) Apart from taking measures to Sale of Agricultural Commod ities in increase the production and productivity World Market of various agricultural commodities in the country, the Government have been *387. SHRI B.V. DESAI: reviewing the export policy from time to SHRI C.P. THAKUR: time keeping in view the surpluses of agricultural commodities available for Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE export. AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : Licence Syst~m lor Newsprint *388. SHRI SHANTI DHARI (a) whether the production of various WAL: agricultural commodities has picked up; SHRI VISHNU MODI : (6) whether the country has yet to make a dent in the world market to WiJl the Minister of INFORMATION dispo~e of its surplus products; and AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: ( c) the measures Government propose (a) whether tbe cost of imported to take in this regard? newsprint wilJ be cheaper tban the indi genous newsprint if licence system is THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE introduced ; AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (S. BUTA SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) whether the cost of indigenous llewsprint purchased form Mysore Mills \ b) The country bas been a tradit to ... and Kerala Mills is much higber than Da) exporter of oil cakes, cash.~ kernel, that of imported newsprint ; and 49 W,ltt., A.uwer. SRAVANA 21. 1907 (SALf) (c) whether keeping in view the Guest Houses rellted by FCI Ia Dellal limited resources of small and medium newspapers Government propose to 3814. SHR[ SANAT KU~AR introduce licence system of newsprint ? MANDAL: Will tb~ Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be THB MI~ISTBR OF STATB OF pleased to Itate : THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. 381"3. SHRIMATI N.P. JHANSI (d) whether Government bad at auy LAKSMI: Will tbe Minister of WORKS stago considered the desirability of AND HOUSING be pleased to state: reserving some rooms in tbe Asb~ Yatri Niwas on long term room discOunt (b) whether at the time of shifting even tbe completion certificate; bad Dot been THE MINISTER OF FOOD .AND obtained; CIVIL SUPPUBS (RAO ·BIRBNDRA SINGH): (b) aDd (c). The DDA bave DOt beeD obtaining completion certificates for (d) The manqement or the Corpor tbeir buildiaas in the past. Similarly, no ation bad coasidered the desirability of certificate was obtained in tbis cue reservinl some rooms in the . Asbok also. The sbiftiq started from April, Yati'i Niwas but their proposal was Dot 1984. qreecI by the cooceraod autlaoritiel. (d) No action is propoMld. (e) Does Dot arise. ~ 1 Writt~n Answ~r8 AUGUST 19» 1985 Written Answers S 2 MUlti-Lingual National News Agency cost of Rs. 1 crore per year cann«;>t be' recovered from 'Hindi/Indian 3815. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will language subscribers. ' the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be p~eased to stale.: (ii) On the other hand, if Indian Languages service is added to the infrastructure of an existing (a) how far Government have been news agency, tbe additional successful in working towards encouraging annual cost will be only Rs. SO Multilingual National News Agency ; and lak hs per year. There will be practically no capital (b) tbe reaction of the proprietors cost. This level of annual ,and editors of the language press ? expenditure can be managed both newspaJ:'ers and other subscribers like AIR and Doordarsban. If THE MINISTER OF ST ATE however there is still any deficit, OF THE MINISTRY'OFINFORMATION the news agency concerned can AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. bear it. GADGIL): (a) aod (b). It is not the Policy of the Government to start any agency and nor do the Government The Government has not yet taken a want to get involved in the management fin'al view on these recommendations. or internal functioning of any such agency • Further, recognising the need World Hank Assistance for inland fisheries ~to have a news agency capab1e of provid- in Orissa and West Bengal ing satisfactory to, services the Janguage papers, I convened two meetings of the 3816. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Will leading editors and proprietors of language the Minister of AG RIeULTURE AND newspapers on 25th & 26th June, 1985. RURAL DEVELOr!v1ENT be pleased to state: As a result of these meetings, the general consensus arrived . at, was that (a) the amount of World Bank it is nOt possible to revive the existing ass;stance received for inland fisheries Hindi News Agencies .. namely.. Hindustan project for bringing areas in the State of Samachar and Samachar Bharati. ,The Orissa and \Vest Bengal under Scientific meeting was of the unanimous view that J..iscicul ure ; it is for the proprietors and editors of tbe newspapers themselves to establish and operate such a news agency selvj<;e. (b) tbe areas broug':t under pisciculture ,For an indepth examination of the in these two States; alternatives, a Committee of leading newspapermen was constituted under the (c) whether sizeable funds allocated Chairmanship of Shri ~.N. Goenka. This for this pr('j~ct for Orissa are being Committee has made the fc lIowing specific diverted to \Vest, Bengal ; and recommendations: (d) if so, the approximate alnount (i) The creation of a flilIfiedged involved and the reasons for such news agency with adequate techno diversion trereof to West Bengal? logical back up wiU require' at least Rs. 3, crOTes for capital expendIture and, in· addition, THE MIN1STER OF STATE IN THE recurring expenditure of Rs 1 crore DE'PARTMENT OF RYRAL DEVELOP per year. The indian language MENT(SHRICHANDULAL CHA~D ne" spapers are not at aU in a RAKAR): (a) to (d). The information position to raise even 50~,~ of is being collected and will be laid on. the this capital. FUltber tile runrling Table of the House. S 3 Written A.nswer. SRAVANA 28 1907 (SAKA) Written Answe8 54 Anomalies in Bonus Act may still exist. At present there is DO . - proposal under consideration of tbe 3817. SHRI PURNA CHANDRA Government to raise tbe ceiling 'limit. MALIK: Will the Minister of LABOUR As regards the latter representations, tbe be pJeased to state : payment of Gratu ity Act specifically provides for payment of gratuity to tbose (a) whether the attention of Govern .. drawing wages not exceeding Rs. '1600/. ment bas been drawn to the anomalies per montb. The fact that those in the Bonus Act and Gratuity Act by drawjng wagC$ exceeding Rs. 1600/ employees of any private company; and per month are not entitled to gratuity under the Act, cannot be considered as (b) jf so, what steps bave been taken an anomaly as such~ However, tho in tbis regard ? ,Government may consider 'the 'question of upward revision of the wage limit THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE for coverage at an appropriate time. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. A represent ation signed by the employees of MIs. [Tratlslation] Francies Klein & Co. Ltd.. Calcutta on Profit aod loss of Public UndertakiDgs anomalies in the Bonus Act was received in May, 1985. Some representations 3818 SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : from private companies have been received Will the· Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL regarding anomalies in the Payment of SUPPLIES be pleased to state : Gratuity Act also which at prescnt provid.es for payment of gratuity to those (a) the public undertak~ngs ot~er drawing wages not exceeding Rs. 1600/ than Food Corporation of IndIa worklog per month. under the Ministry and the capital investment made so far in each of these (b) The former representation refers undertakings; and to the anomalies in calculation of bonus of employees drawing salary of Rs. 1600/ (b) tbe year-wise loss suffered or and Rs.160 1/.. ; whereas employees drawing profit earned by each of tbese public Rs. 1600 j- get an annual bonus of sector undertakings during the last three Rs. 3840/- at 20%~ the employees years? drawing Rs. 160 1/- do not get any bonus at aU. Government is of the view that some cut off limit will have THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND to be made for calculatjon of bonus. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA Even if the ceiling is raised, the complaint SINGH) : ,(a) (Rs. Iakhs) Name of the Public Sector Capital investIDCnt Undertaking 7714.80 (i) Central Warehousing Corporation (CWe) 441.14 (ii) Modern Food Industries (India) Ltd. (MFIL) (iii) North Eastem Regional Agri 200.00 cultural Marketing Corporation (NERAMAC). 224.37 (iv) Hindustan Vegetable Oil Corpor ation (HVOC) " Written I4I18Wen AUGUST 19, 198' (b) The year-wise profit (before ta,,)/los5 made by these public sector under takings is iDdicated below :- (RBJlatbs) Year ewe MFIL NERAMAC *HVOC 198-2.83 1139.8' 204.73 0.07 (Joss) * 1983.84 1605.11 223.29 10.47 * 1984-8S Annual accounts of aU tbe four undertakings are uDder preparation. The Corporation was incorporated as a Government company in Marcb, 1984. [Eng/ish] THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Upgradatioa of Air Relay Sralion at MIN-1srRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. AUeppy ANJIAH): (b) the a~~nt ~f i!1teres,t a~Du~lIy in the Statements I & II below. paid in foreign exchange and to each bank and the total interest paid 10 far; (c) R.epayment of loan raised for financing projects in Iraq is linked with (C) whether there is any IikelihooU of the repay ment of Govt of Iraq to Exim repayinl tbeee loans; if so, b, what date; Bank of India under the deferred credit agreement between Govt. of India and (d) whether NBCC had taken into Govt. of Iraq. As regards projects in account the bank interest while tendering Libya, the amount of Loans and over for tbe works coo corned; and drafts shall be paid out of the amounts receivable from the Govt. of Libya for (e) whether Government give cate which all out efforts are being made. gOrical assurances tbat the loans from The loan for the project in Yem D Ar..lb these banks will not be treated as bad Republic which has been raised recently debts' is expected to be paid during 1986.87 o",t of the'~project receipts. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI"""H.K.L. BHA GAT): (a> and (b). Details are given (d) and (e). Yes, Sir:..." Statement-I (i) Libyan Works Loan/ Amount of out- Name of Project Name of the Bankers Overdraft standing loan! o D (figure in US Dollar Million) 1 2 3 4 Loan 15.870 Housing & Hospital Syndicate Bank London Overdraft 2.095 Housing & Hospital -do- Loan O.3l1 PSST Wortes -do- Loan 1.621 Schools at Banhvalid -do- Loan 0.632 Schools & Hostel at Ghat -do- Loan 0.495 Street Illumination, .do- Baniwalid Loan 0.577 . Street Illumination, .do- Twarmba Loan 2.886 Ghat Airport Project -do- Overdraft 0.035 Street Illumination Works -<10- Overdraft 0.022 Bergain & Ideas -do- Loan 1.000 Ghat Airport Project Indian Overseas Bank, ---- Columbo Branch Sri Lanka. TOl'AL: 25.554 AUGUST 19, 1985 Written AlI8We'8 60 (ii) Iraqi Works 1 2 3 4 Loan 10.627 Railway Project Syndicate Bank, London Overdraft 1.671 Brine Storage Tank .do- 12.298 Overdraft 7.87 Railway Project Canara Bank, London Overdraft 0.86 Brine Storage Tank -do- 7.93 Overdraft 6.27 Mosul Hotel State Bank of India. Bahrain Overdraft 1.52 Dokan Hotel -do- 8.10 Loan 1,800 Railway Project EXIM Bank of India TOTAL: 30.18 (iii) SONA· A (YAR) Works EXIM Bank of India Loan 0.645 774 Residential Units at Dbamar TOTAL: (i), (ii) & (iii) USDM 56,417 Iraq-I Works Overdraft in Iraq Overdraft out- Name of the Name of the standing in Project Bankers MID Overdraft 0.310 Mosul Hotel Rafidian Bank, Baghdad, Iraq Overdraft 0.149 Dokan Hotel -do- 0.822 Railway Project .do. Overdraft --- TOTAL 1.281 MID Stands for Million Iraqi Dinar 61 'Written tfRSwers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAK.-4) . Written A1l8w.. , 62. Statement... II I. Libya Works Financial Syndicate Bank Amount of interest paid Y~af London (US DoUer Million) Indian Overseas Bank, Colombo 1976-77 0.010 1977-78 0.082 1978-79 0.180 1979·80 0.370 1980-81 1.762 0.194 1981-82 3.059 2.206 1982-83 2.944 ().161 1983-84 2.357 (). t 30 1984-85 2.962 0.130 Upto 31.3.85--- 1,4.85 to 30 .. 6.85 @ 9.75 0.597 0.031 14.323 ().852 II. Iraq; Works Financial Rafidian Bank Syndicate State Bank of India., Year Bagadad-Iraq Banks London Behrain (US$ Million) (MID) (US$ Million) 1978 ... 79 0.035 1979.80 0.046 1980-81 0.044 1981-82 0.114 1982 ... 83 0.140 0.321 0,,178 1983 .. 84 0.132 1.106 0,300 1984-85 0.167 2.003* 0.439 Upto 31.3.85 0.678 3.430 0.91-7 1.4.85 to 0.042 0.635* 0.119 30.6.85 Total upto 30.7 .. 85 0.720 4.065 1.036 *iocluding interest of Canara Bank, London MID stands for Million Iraqi Dinars III. SON A'A (YAR) Works Amount of interest paid (US$ Million) .------~~~------~~ _____J_~~~ ____~ 1.4.85 to 30.6.85' 0.012 -:-EXIM'Bank of India 63 Wrltt_ A".,.,. AUGUST 19, 198' Setting up of Labour Contract Societies a]Jottees at Cbittaranjan Park as OD 31 March, 1985; and 382·2. SHRl M. RAMACHAND RAN: WiJl tbe Minister of AGRI (C) bow many plots are yet to be CUL'l'U~B AND RURAL DEVELOP alJotted ? MENT be pleased to state : THB MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN (a) whether Government purpose to TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K..L. promote tbe establishment of Labour BHAGAT) : (a) The plots in ChittranjaD Contract Societies tbrou.bout the coun . Park were allotted by tbe erstwhile try, one in each district, to unMrtake DePartment of Rehabilitation. On traQS both State and Central Government fer of work to tbe Land and Development works so as to eliminate the hazards of Office files relating to 1 935 residen1ial the existing proprietary aod partnership plots were transferred for admiDiltratioD contra~ting syStem; and of Jeases. (b) if so, the details thereof? (b) The information js Dot readily avail_bie. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE- (c) There js a proposal to make 140PMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL allotments to 714 refugees declared by CHANDRAKAR): (a) and (b). Pro eligible the Department of Rehabilit motion and development of labour con ation. tract cooperatives for the benefit of the weaker sections, is an important aspect [Trallllalion] . ., the cooperative development pro Purchase of Rice by Super Bazar _.z]mes. The State Governments and - ...Central work awarding agencjes, have ~bcen advised to extend certain facilities 3824. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: aod concessions to these cooperatives. DR. A.K.. PATEL: -~he total number of Jabour contract GIOpcratives including forest labour Will the Minister of FOOD AND .cDOperatives in the country as on 30th CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: June, 1983 was about 179 000 with a membership of nearly 11 lakhs. These (a) whether Government's attention societies executed works of tbe value of has beeD drawn to the news item' ·appear ,about Rs. 156.00 crores during tbe year iog in the Indian Express dated 11 May. 1982-83. During the Seventh Plan, the 1985 to tfie effect that in April, 1984 activities of these cooperatives \\ ill be Super Bazar purchased unapproved par further intensified. mal rice and also unapproved Basmati rice from certain private firms at much AllohDent of Plots to Refugees 10 Cbittrao bisber rates; jaB Park, New Delhi (b) if so, tbe facts in this regard and 3823. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS tbe action takeD alainst the persoDs res. MUNSI: Will the Minister of WORKS ponsible tbereror; AND HOUSING be pJeased to state : (c) whether it is a fact tbat Super (a) . Dumber .of plots ~notted. to re Bazar purchase flour at. Rs. 260 per fusees in Cbittraojan Park, New Delhi as quintal and sells it to the public at on 31 March, 1985; RI. 270 per Quintal whereas the tame brand 60ur was available in tbe market (b) bow ~DY plots have ·been IOld at RI. 250 per quintal; if· so, tbe details "to Don-~' by tbe settled rerul~1 or in tbis regard; aDd 6S Wrltt,., Answer8 SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written AUWN8 66 (d) tbe estimated amount involved institution for financing Urban Develop.. in such purchases so far ? ment and Urban Water Supply. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Since the proposal is stiU under _i CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BlRENDRA satioQ it is not possible to furnish del ... SINGH): (a) and (b). Super Bazar has denied the allegations made in the LiberalisatioD of Credit Flow to Govt. Indian _Express or 11. S.1 98 5 . Super Employees for Construetloa of - Bazar bas, however, informed that it Houses purchased 70 quintals of parmal rice from MIs. Dinanath Dharamvir @ Rs. 31 S per quintal and 300 quintals of 3826. SHRI K.S. ROA: Will tbe Basmati Price from MJs. Kundan Lal Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be Ghanshyam Das in April, 1984 @ pleased to state: Rs. 585 per quintal (except 60 quintals rico @ RI. 581 per quiDtal). The said (a) whether there _is any proposal to purchase was made on competitive rates liberalise credit flow to Government em aDd after approval of the sample by the ployees to construct houses wit biD a quality testins laboratory. specific time limit; and (C) The Super Bazar has purchased (b) if so, the details thereof ? Rose Brand Atta of MIs. Ashok Flour Mills at Rs. 260 per quintal (in 10 kg. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT bags) and sold at Rs. 270 per quintal ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.IC.L. (in '10 kg. bags) till 9.5.1985. The BHAGAT) : (a) and (b). House Buildinl price was reduced to Rs. 265 per quintal Advance Rules for Central Government with effcct from 10. S .1 985. The Super employees were liberalised in April, 1984. Bazar bas also informed that the price of A new Scheme _viz. 'Ownership Housing Atta in their retail outlets is cheaper as Scheme"to be financed out of tho accumu compared to outside market. lations in tbe Central Government Employees' Group Iasuraoee Fooci ... (d) the amount involved in purchase also been recently introduced through tbe of Rice by Super Bazar indicated at (a) agency of Housiq and Urban Develop above is Rs. 1,97,310/-. Blent Corporation (BUDCO). The Salient features of the Scheme are COD tained in the statement below. [English] FiDaDcial Institutions for L'rbaa Develop Stateaaeat ment Watar Supply Schemes Salient features olOwnership HouJing Schmle ~d CHlt offunds of the 3825. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD Group llUllrance Scheme for Central SBTm: Will tbe Minister of WORKS G01¥rnment employees AND HOUSING be' pleased to state : Objecti,e: whether there is any proposal under Govemmeot's consideration to sot To promote ownership bousiq acheme up financial institutions for urban deve.. for Central Government employees who lopment and water supply schemes; and are covered under tbe Or.up Insurance Scheme of tbe OO\'erDmeDt of India. (b) if so, the details thereof ? The financial assistance under this scheme is available to Govemment employees THE MlNISTBR OF PARLIAMEN iDCludiDa those belooRinl to AD ludia TAR.Y AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. Services. Tho ownenbip bousin. BlfAGAT): aDd (b). Yes. Sir. schemes can be formulated ." Housinc Tbore is a proposal to set up a finaDciaJ Boards, Development Authorities, 1m- AUGUST 19, 1985 provement Trusts., Municipal Corpora CeiliDg COlt & admissibility : tions, State Governments, Govemmen t Employees Cooperative Societies, Coope The ceiling on plinth area/an inclusive rative Group Housing Societies etc. The ceiling cost for the construction of a loans for this purpose are given through house will be as per column 2 and • Rousing & Urban Development Corpo column 3. The Joan amount admissible ration (HUDCO). will be as shown in column 4 below :- Basic Pay Plinth Ceilin g cost Loan admissible area (excluding (Including deve (sq. mts.) land cost) loped land cost) (Rs. Lakhs) 1 2 3 4 Upto Rs.800 Up to 80 1.25 ) Rs. 801 to Rs_. 1700 UptO 130 2.00 ~ Rs. 1701 & above Upto 200 3.00 J However, in case the actual cost of Leakage of Foodgrains while hudling construction of plinth area works out to by FeI be niore, then the ceiling cost will be the actual cost of construction. 3827. SHRI SODE RAMAIAH : Will the Minister of FOOD AN D CIVIL Government employees who have SUPPLIES be pleased to state: already availed House Building Advance from their employers are not eligible for loan under tbis. scheme. (a) whether it is a ract that the leakage of foodgrains while handling by Food Corporation of India at about two The following requirements should also per cent is very high; and be complied with by tbe borrowing agencies :- (b) if so, the steps taken to reduce the rate of leakages? (i) The provision Cor administration and supervision charges should THE MINISTER OF FO.OD AND Dot exceed 1 8 % of the ~onstruc tion cost. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGfI): (a) and (b). Certain short ages including leakage of foodgrains are (ii) The appJicant Govenmen tern. inevitable in the handling operations. ployee or his spouse or dependent Considering massive foodgrain handling children should not own house operations being undertaken by the Food in the town or city in which the Corporation of India the total shortages bouse is proposed .. to be construc 0'( around =% on all accounts cannot be' ted under this scheme. deemed to be very high. However, the Corporation is constantly making' efforts' Lending Interest Ra(es to reduce these shortages. The steps taken by them include enforcing J 00 % ~ HUDCO's lending interest rate sball weighment at a1l points of handling of ~ 1.2% which ma.y be revised upwards, foodgrains to ext~nt possible, ·additional i~ the event of any iJ}crease in Govern installation of weigh brj~ges, stricter ment's lending rate to HUDCO. quality control at time of purcha~e, better 69 Wrillm A.uwen SRAVANA 28. 1907 (SA.Lf) Writtm AIutHn 70 preservation, reduction In size of packing, quota lifted by the State Govemmoo t machine stitching, avoidancc of move during the last one year; and ment in open wagons and effective aU intensive supervision includiol surprise (b) if full quota bas Dot been lifted, checks etc. the reasons therefor , [Translatioll1 THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Sugar Quota Allotted to M.P. CIVIL SUPPLIES (SHRI RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) The quota 3828. DR. PRABHAT KUMAR of levy sugar allotted to Madhya PradeSh MISHRA: Will the Minister of FOOD Government for distribution through the AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to public distribution system and the quan state : ti ty lifted there against by the Sta. Government from the Food Corporation (a) the quota of sugar allotted to of India godowns during tbe last one Madhya Pradesh Government and the year, is as under : (tODDes) Month Allotment· Issues July, 84 23307.3 21427.0 August, 84 29297.3 22766.5 Sept. 84 23295.2 22000.3 October, 84 23304.9 29003.1 November, 84 23294.9 21787.2 December, 84 23294.9 21172.4 January, 85 23309.1 22776.5 February, 85 23294.4 22735.6 March, 85 23294.9 2()6SS.6 April, 8S 23304.9 20221.1 May, 85 23294.9 19314.9 June, 8S 23294.9 23672.8 *Includes smaJl quantity allotted for the CRPF battalion stationed in tbe State. (b) Food Corporation of India is [Elfglish] maintaining adequate availability of levy Sub.issioa .1 False SC/ST Certifkates sugar for delivery to State Government IJy some ElQJoyees nominees against the allotted monthly' levy sugar Quotas. It is reported tbat in most of the months it is due to failure 3829. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN : of State Government nominees to make Will tbe Minister of LABOUR bo plcaaod financial arrangements for lifting of to state: aJlotted levy sugar quotas within the validity period that some quantity re. Ca> whether complaints iDcludiDI mained unlifted by them asainst tbe quota complaints from some Members of aJlotted by tbe Government. ParliaDlCllt have bccn received by him 71 'Written Answers AUGUST] 9, ] 985 Wrlllen AnSWers 72. against submitting of false SC/ST certi (b) Yes. ficates by some employees; (c) Complaints of low pressure. are (b) wbether show-cause notices were reCeived during summer montbs~ from some issued to such employees; and of the pockets in Delhi which are situated at the tail end of the distribution system . (c) jf so, the details thereof and out or at higher elevation. Complaints or Jow pressure are also received from the' ~me thereof? old distribution system where there are blockages in the pipe line/inadequate size, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE leakages etc. Failure of electricityflow MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. voltage also affects water supply. ANHAH): (a) to ccl. Information is being collected and will be laid OD the table of the House. ( d) A comprehensive computer study of the water distribution system bas been undertaken with a view to ration [Translation] alize the distribution system. The study Sapply of Water in Delhi indicates necessity for strengthening of the trunk transmi~sion system including 3830 SHRI KALI PRASAD PAN- augmentation of storag~ and pumping DEY: • Win the Minister of WORKS capacities, The distribution system_ also AND HOUSING be pleased to state: requites to be strengthened inc1uding re placement of small diameter pipe lines in many pockets. Action on the s-trength (a) whether it is a fact tha! the SUpp~y f.'ning of trunk transmission system has and distribution of water beIng made In already been initiated and other impor. Delhi is far below the requirement; tant work will be completed in a period of three years. (b) whether it is also a fact that the per capita supply of water being made in For adequate pressure of water and rural areas is only 15 gallons On an aver equitable distribution. Underground age as compared to the average of 53 tanks are being constructed and old pipe gallons in urban areas; Jines repJaced. (c) whether it is a fact that there are A Leak Detection Cell has been set up many complainfs of low water pressure, for detection of hidden 1eakages in the it is Dot reaching the upper storeys, water distribution system and to plug the blockage and leakage in pipe lines due to same, Pressure survey of the distribution old pipes and wastage of water from the system is also carried out periodically, public taps and hydrants but Government especiaJJy in the old distribution system have not taken any effective steps in this to check up blockages/leakages. regard; and The present supply of water in Delhi is (d) the concrete steps taken/proposed 357 MOD and is expected to go up to to be taken by Government to redress 412 MGD by tbe end of 1985. Further above complaints and make adequate and augmentation of water supply in !?elhi equitable supply of water in urban and would depend on the availability of raw rural areas? water sources in the neighbouring States for which negotiations have been initiated; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN. So far as rural areas are concerned, it is TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA proposed to increase per capita supply to GAT): (a) Yes, the present water 30 GPTD during the 7th Plan period supply in Delhi is 357 MOD against subject to availabiity of water through assessed requirement of 472 MOD. additional sources. SRAVANA 28,1907 (S.4KA) [E",llsh] A.3 Block to C.G.H.S. dispensary on Coastltutloa of Board ror Samachar completion. Obarati (b) The flats have become ready for 3831. SHRI SURBSH KURUP: Will occupation only now and are being han ded over to the CG HS. the Ninister OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to State : Abolition of Contract System in FCI (a) whether Government are aware GodOWDS of the fact that Samacbar Bbarati has been functioning without a Board for the 3833. SHR[ KAMLA PRASAD last two months; and RAWAT: Will the Minister of FOOD A NO CIVIL SUPPLIBS be pleased to (b) the steps Government propose to state : take to constitute a new Board ? (a) whether contract system has been THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE abolished in some of the Godowns of MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Food Corporation of India; BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD OIL): (a) It is learnt that seven out (b) whether Government propose to of eleven Directors of Samachar Bharati abolish contract system in Barabanki have resigned from the Board of (U. P.) godowns of FCI; and Directors till date. The remalDlOg mem bers constitute a valid board under the Cc) jf not, the reasons for not law. abolishing contract system so far '1 (b) Does not arise. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA [Translation) SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. AliotmeDt of DDA Flats to D.G.H.S. in Paschim Vihar (b) and (c). On a writ petition filed by the pel workers' Union, the Supreme 3832. SHRI LALA RAM KEN: Court of India has recentfy issued direc Will the Minister of WORKS AND tives to the State Governments including HOUSING be pleased to state: U.p. to form committees undeJ the Contract Labour (Regu)ation and Aboli. (a) whether DDA has allotted four tion) Act 1970, to enquire whether con MIG flats in A-Block Paschim Vihar on tract labour in FCI should be abolished, the demand of Director GeneraJ Health and to take action on the report of their committees. Services, for opening a CaHS dis pensary at Paschim Vihar, New Delhi; and Allotment of Land to Educational Institut ions (b) whether the possession of these flats has been handed over to DGHS, 3834. SHRI KRISHNA PRATAP if so, the data thereof and if not , the SINGH: Will the Minister of WORKS reasons therefor and the time by which AND HOUSING be pJeased to state: this posse~sion is I ikeJy fo be given '1 (a) the educational institutions! THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN societies whose names were recommended TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA to the Ministry by the Delhi Adminis GAT): (a) In 1983 it was decided tration for allotment of land to run to· allot three fiats in Paschim Puri in schools during 1982 and 1983; 7 S Written Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written dnswer.r 76 (b) whether anyone of them bas (8) whether Government have inform been allotted land so far and if so, the ation about the adverse propaganda, names thereof; and about the qua lily of Indian wheat engineered in tbe world market by some (c) the names of those, out of tbem, established wheat exports; which have not been allotted land indi cating tbe reasons therefor .and tbe time (b) if eo, the details thereof; by which land will be allotted to these institutions/societies ? ( c) the steps taken /proposed to con tradict such propaganda and to gain tbe THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN confidence of the foreign buyers; and TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA GAT): (a) to (C). The relevant infor (d) reaction of tbe wheat exporting mation is being collected will be laid on countries to India·s efforts to export tbe Table of the House. wheat? [English] THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Decline in prices of foodgrains and increase CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA in prices of otber goods SINGH) : (a) to (d). Government have no information about any adverse 3835. SHRI DINESH SINGH: Will propaganda against Indian wheat in tbe the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND world market by established wheat RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased exporters. to state : Memorandum submitted by Fel SC/ST (a) whether tbe prices of foodgrains Employees Association have declined recently while the prices of other goods have increased considerably 3837. SHRI GANGA RAM: Will in the country; aDd the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (b) if so, steps Government propose to take to help the farmers ? (a) whether the representatives of t~e Food Corpora~ion of India Scheduled THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Castes/Scheduled Tribes Employees DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. Association had a me!ting with him on MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND 8 April, 1985 and submitted a RAKAR): (a) Monthly average Index memorandum ; Numbers of wholesale prices of food. grains increased by 5.3 percent, of manu (b) if so, the grievanccs or points factured products by 2.9 percent and of discussed in the meeting; aDd all ~ommodities by 3.5 percent in July, 1985 (Upto 20.7.1985) over tbose in (c) the steps taken to redress the April, 1985. The monthly average index grievances of the FCI/ST Employees· of non-food articles, however, declined Association ? durin! the same period by 3.5 percent. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (b) Does not arise. SINGH): (a) Yes Sir. PropagaDda about quality of lDC1lan wheat (b) The main grievance related to backlog of posts reserved for SCa1 ST• 3836. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: in the Zonals/RegioDsl Offices of Food Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Corporation of India. The represcot SUPPLIES be pleased to state: atives of tbe Association also mentioned 77 Written Answe,." SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Wrilten Answers 78 in general that the grievances of SC1 ST University Grants Commission was set Employees were Dot being attended to up by an Act of Parliament. promptly. (b) Yes Sir. (c) Food' Corporation of India has since directed the Zonal/Regional Offices (c) Only permanent employees of to make all out efforts to wipe out the Indian Council of Medical Research backlog for filling up of reserved posts, if' any, in all cadres and categories and Council of Scientific and Industrial Research posted at the Head quarters keeping in view the Government directives in the matter.' The said offices have also i~ Delhi are eligible for allotment of general poe.1 accommodation on payment been instructed to attend to the grievances promptly. of market rate of licence fee. Employees of University Grants Commission are eligible for allotment of general pool Allotment of Govt. Accommodation accommodation on payment of normal' to the Employees of National licence fee. Book Trust, India (d) There are many other ~utonomous 3838. SHRI DHARAMVIR SINGH bodies/orsanisations like National Book TYAGI: Will the Minister of WORKS Trust f India which are also not e1igibl~ AND HOUSING be pleased to state: for General" Pool accommodation. as a matter of policy. (a) whether Indian Council of M~dical Research, Council of Scientific (e) Question does not arise. and Industria) Researeh, University Grants Commission etc. are autonomous bodies registered under Societies Act, Registration of Rallis India and 1860 ; Vallabh Pesticides (b) whether National Book Trust, 383q. SHRI MOTILAL SINGH: India is also registered as an autonomous Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE body under the above Act ; AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : (c) whether the employees working in the above mentioned bodies are entitled to (a) whether it is a fact that Rallis Government residential accommodation India and Val1abh Pesticides is registered from General Pool of Directorate of under the Insecticides Act for various Estates; Pesticides; (d) if so, the reasons why employees (b) jf so, what are the details of working in the National Book Trust, applications submitted by these com India are not allotted Government panies and received by the registration accommodation from General Pool ; and committee for grant of registration for the last two years date-wise; (e) tbe steps taken to allot Govern ment accoO"Jmodation to them as well 1 (c) what are the dates on which their cases ~ere brought before the Registr THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT_ ation Committee for consideration and ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. whether pending cases of all other BHAGAT) : (a) Indian Council of applicants, whose applications were Medical Research and Council of received earHer and those of Rallis and Scientific and Industrial Research are Vallabh Pesticides were cleared before autonomous bodies registered under consideration of cases of these companies; Societies Registration Act. 1860, whereas, jf not, the reasons therefor ; and AUGUST 19. 1985 Written .41UW'8 80 (d) tbe action Government prOl)olc Mis. Vallabb Pesticides were brouabt to take iD the matter ? before tbe Registration Committee for its consideration. arc given in column THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 6 of tbe All1leXure I and II respec tiYcJy. T-HB DBPARTMENT OF RURAL The Registration Committee has laid DEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL down strict criteria or taking of cases for scrutiny following the queue system. CHA~DRAKAR): (8) Yes, Sir. Priority is accorded only to cases for indiaenous manufacture technical (b) For the last 2 yean i.e. witb or grade insecticides and intICCticides for effect from 1 2.8.83 todate, 19 and 24 export purposes by specific orders of applications were submitted to the Registration Committee. On acrutiny, secretariat of the Registration Committee jf deficiencies are noted, these are by Mis. Rallis India Ltd. and Mis. communicated to tbe appl ieant for Vallabh Pesticides respectively for rectificatioo. On receipt of rectification registration of various pesticides under data, it again gets priority amongst the Insecticides Act, 1968. The lists this category from the date of submission showing the details of tbe applications of further data. Thus tbe contingency submitted by -tbe Firms (date-wise) arc poiDted out does Dot arise. enclosed as Statement I and II below. (c) The dates on which tbe cases sub- (d) No action is called for iD view mitted by Mjs. Rallis India and of reply to part (c) of tbe Question. 81 Written Answer. SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) u "'0. u e .~- "0u 8 .~ \ eo =0 U Col ~ tn V\ o =-5 00 ..c 00 00- ._o ...c 0\ o 0\ ~ ~ .... 00- !: CD o -"'I:t" .~.g . c ~ u - -;. u ... ~ ~ u c > - '- e ..:.cu 0... .. 0 ...... as Q, -0. - ve.; .8 as o~ ct:_ o 0'0 f-cc!! ~ 00 ...... 0\ >- V\ .... 00 . .9 ~. . -::s ~ .... u"'" N ...... , fIl "0- ..... CD I o -=co; = a ('f') 1) ~ :g &i -u u ,....c~ ~ ..o 'o u :au 8 t'CS as :s Z =- ...... 00 0\ N C'f'a . 0 ..... N . 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N N N N N 89 Writlen Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written- Answers 90 Rmltment I)f Ladakhl Artists Allocation of Foodgrains to Maharashtra 3840. SHRI p. NAMGYAL: Will 3842. SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE the Minister of INFORMATION AND PATIL: Will tbe Minister of FOOD BROADCASTING be pleased to state: AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pJeased to state : (8) whether Srinagar Centre of tbe Song and Drama Division have four (a) the norms laid down for allocat troups i.e. BAHU Troup, TAWI Troup, ing suppJies to States in regard to food PAMPOSH Troup and GONPA Troup; grains, kerosene etc. ; (b) whether six out of the ten mem (b) the allocations of foodgrains bers of GONPA Troup are non-Ladakhi made to Mnharashtra during tbe last who do not know Ladakhi language, song three years, year-wise; and or music; (c) whether the Centre gives extra (c) whether Ladakhi public has shown allocations for special circumstances like resentment against the non.Ladakhi famine or floods and if SO~ bow much was given to Maharashtra under this head ar tists for their ignorance of Ladakbi language and culture; and during the last three years? THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND (d) if so, reasons for non-recruitment CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA of Ladakhi artists in place of the six SINGH) : (a) to (c). The allot DSD-Ladakbi artists ? ment of foodgrains to various States! Union Territories, including Maharashtra, are made on a month to month basis, THE MINISTER OF STATE taking into account the overall availability OF THE MINISTRY OF INFOR of stocks in the Central 'Pool, relative MATION AND BROADCAST needs of the various States, market ING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL) : (a) Shri availability and other related factors. nagar Centre of Song & Drama Division have five troupes-one departmental drama troupe and four border publicity The allotments of Kerosene are made troupes. 'viz. BAHU Troupe, TAWI on a four-month block basis. allowing a Troupe, POMPOSH Troupe and GUM 5 % growth over the allocations made PHA Troupe. during the corresponding period of tile previous year. <") No, Sir. There are five Ladakhi artists in the Srinagar Centre. The In addition to regular allotm~nts, remaining artists who do not belong to additional adhoc allotmen ts are also made Ladakh areas have also been trained to under special circumstances like faminel sing Ladakhi songs and to perform floods, etc, as and when the situation Ladakhi dances. arises. (c) No, Sir. A Statement indicating regular and ad-hoc allotments of foodgrains and kerosene made to Maharashtra during the (d) Question does not arise. last three years is attached. (Statement). 9 1 Written AIIStl¥,., AUGUST 19,- 1985 Written Answers 92 StatemeDt Statement indicatIng regular allotment and additional, ad-hoc allotments of food- grains and kerosene to Maharashtra in the years 1 982, 1 983 and. 1 984 . _ (In '000 tonnes) Year Regular Allotment Additional ad-hocAllotment Foodgrains Kerosene Fooograins Kerosene 1982 1452.4 905.93 4.25 22.47 1983 1368.6 975.23 3.75 4.56 1984 1648.1 1018.68 6.00 [Translations] Sanjhi Gurbani' is being telecast on Telecast of Religious Programmes Sundays. Religious programmes are also telecast on specia I lei igious festival days 3843. SHRI MANVENDRA of various communities. SINGH: Will the Minister of INFOR MATION AND BROADCASTING be (c) and (d). There is no proposal to pleased to state : telecast regularly religious programmes from Doordarshan. There are, however , (a) whether religious programmes proposals to mount a series of program- such as recitation of Ramayana, Krishna mes on Ramayana and Mahabharata uela and Ram Leela and programmes of where these works will be treated as epics other religious are regularly telecast On depicting the history, culture, social rela Doordarshan for a particular period lik.e tions, etc., of the times, without propa the religious programmes broadc3St on gating and particular religion. Radio; EDgineering D~;>artmeDt of DDA (b) if so, the details of such program mes telecast by Delhi Doordarshan ; 3844. DR. CH.c\NDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI : Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to (c) if not, whether Government pur state : rose to telecast regularly religious pro grammes for a particular period; and (a) whether Government are going to take steps to improve the engineerin~ (d) if so, the details of the program department of D.!lhi D~velopment Autho nlet proposed to be telecast in future and rity ; jf Dot, the reasons tberefor ? (b) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISfRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD (c) if not, the reasons therefor? G[L): (a) and (b). As a matter of policy, Doordarshan do not telecast any THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN r;!liJiaus programme on regular basis. TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA. H ) vever, a spoDsored programme 'Sarb GA T): (a) Necessary steps to sear up 93 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 94 its Engineering De-partment are taken by THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND DDA from time to time, as per the needs CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA and requirements. SINGH): (a) No, Sir. The Scheme for distl ibutioD of imported sugar has (b) DDA have streamlineo IDC functi .. come into operation from June, 1985. oning of Engineering Wing by adopting The Food Corporation of India is arrang various measures such as creation of ing the delivery to State Governments Quality Control Cell at zonal levels in and sale of imported sugar through addition to a regular Quality Control Cell auction !tender as per the guidelines issued functioning under the control of full. by the Government of India from time to fledged Chief Engineer. The Vigilance time. Cell has been strengthened on tbe Engineering side by posting one Superin (b) and (c). Do not arise. tend ing Eng ineer and two Executive Engineers with other supporting staff. DDA have also initiated action against Household Industries in DDA Colonies the defaulting officials and contractors who are found respon~ible for execution 3846. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: of poor quality of work. Senior Engi Win the Minister of WORKS ANQ neers like CEs/SEs have also been HOUSING be pleased to state : inVOlved by DDA in the supervision of cons truction progranlme of bouses in order to ensure quality construction. (a) 9tbether it is a fact that with a Besides, DDA have engaged a reputed view to generate employment, Delhi consultancy firm to suggest measures to Administration has allowed certain speci improve its working. fied house-hold industries to run in the houses, in Delhi ; (c) Question does not arise in view of the reply to (b) above. (b) whether it is also a fact that DDA authorities complete1y ignore such [English] classification and do not aHow to run any household industry in their colonies; Disposal of Imported Sugar by F.e.I. and 3845. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: SHRI GURUDAS KAMAT: (c) if so, whether Government pro pose to issue clear instructions to the Will the Minister of FOOD AND DDA to fonow tbe classification and CIVIL SU PPLIES be pleased to state: allow specified household industries to run in the houses in DDA colonies? (a) whether the Food Corporation of India have not fullowed t!stablished pro THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT cedures laid down by the Government of ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA .. India in regard to disposal of imported GAT): (a) Yes Sir. sugar (b) if so, the number of cases of (b) No Sir. The.Delhi Development irregularities committed by the Corpora Authority had delegated their powers for tion which have con.e to the notice of according approval to the household Government; and industries in 1979 to the Commissioner, Municipal Corporation of Delhi and (c) the action taken by Government President, New Delhi Municipal Commit .. against the erring officials of the Corpo tee in respect of areas within their juris .. ration as also to ensure disposal of diction. impol ted sugar on the basis of establi. shed norms ? . (c) Does not arise. AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers ~ Allotment of Land 'or Flats to' widows tbe Minister of LABOUR be pleased tie byDDA stato : 3837. SHRI PRAKASH CHAN (a) whether daily wages wor~,ersl DRA: Will the Minister of WORKS 'la~ourers are losing wages for two days AND HOUSING be pleaSed to state : in a week due to the introduction of five day' week in Central Government OffiCes; (a) whether there Is any scheme under which poor widows are given piece Qf (b) if so, the remedial measures taket:t land or fiats on priority basis by DDA to solve the problem of daily workeraj or other Government agencies; if so, since labourers; and \\-ben this scheme is in practice; Ccl details of protection that will be (b) the details of the scheme and the giveD to ithem '1 criteri~ for allotment of Jand or flats; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (c) bow maoy widows have been THB MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI given land or fia ts and how many cases T. ANJIAH) : (a) to (c). The daily are penrling for finalisatioD as OD 31 July, wage rate of casual unskilled labouren 1985; and working in the Central Government Offices in Delhi, New Delhi, where five (d) the authority for allotment of day week: has been introduced, has been these fia ts '1 raised from Rs. 13.60 to Rs. 15.70 with effect from August 9, 1985. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BRA. MIs. Jindal Aluminium Limite4, Bangalore GAT) : (a l DDA has a provision to allot flats on oUI-of- turn basis_ to the w()dows in hard cases although the(e is no general 3849. DR. G.S. RAJHANS: Win priority for allotmen t of &,i,_ The pro the; Minister of LABOUR be pleased to vision exists from 12.2.1982. So far .8 state : the residential plots are concerned, there is no such provision or scheme. the number of employees pre senti,· working in M/s. Jindal Alu .(1t) Does not arise. minium Limited Bangalore and its bran ches at Delhi and Bombay; (c) S48 widows have been alloUca flats by DDA under various categories (b) tbe amOUD t of provident fund upto July, 1985 and about 40 cases are and insurance cieposited by the company , under proccss. durins the last three years, separately; (d) Lt. Governor, Delhi and Vice (C) whether Government are a~are that the company in violating the Jabour Chairman of DDA have been delegated laws and thus a large number of bondeJ powers to make such allotments on out labour is also an their clutches; and of-tufn basis, depending OD merits of each case. (d) the action Government purpose to Mis. Less Wages to Workers/Labourers due to take altinst Jindal Aluminium Limited, Bangalore? IDtroduction - of Fife Day Week fa Central Govemmeat 0ITkes THB MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3848. SHRIMATI PATBL RAMA.. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. BEN RAMJIBHAI MAVANI: WiD ANJIAH): (a) The Employ. Pro- 97 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 98 videot Fund authorities have reported as under: Name of the city No. of employees presently working Bangalore 399 Bombay 18 Delhi 28 (b) The amount of Provident Fund deposited by MIs. Jindal Aluminium Limited, Bangalore and its branches at Delhi and Bomhay during the last three years is given below: J 982-83 1983-84 1984-85 Bangalore Rs. 4.99,840.00 Rs. 5,97,953.50 Rs. 7,00,190.00 Bombay Rs. 15,454.00 Rs. 25,119.00 Ri. 33,539.50 Delhi Rs. 56,437.24 Rs. 63,072.50 Rs, 76,544.00 As regards insurance deposited by the Amount paid to Artists of Hum Log company, it has been reported that the establishment ha.s its own scheme of 3850. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: insurance and it is exempted from the Will the Minister of INFORMATlON operation of the Employees Deposit A~D BROADCASTING be pJeased to Linked Insurance Scbeme under the G PF. state: Act. The question of their depositing the insurance contribution under the (a) the total amount paid to the EDLI Scheme therefore does Dot arise. Artists of Hum Log Series relayed from However, the State Government of Delhi; Karnataka have reported that contri bution under the Group Insurance Scbeme is as under : (b) whether there is any contract entered into. with these Artists by the T. V. authority; 1982-83 Rs. 18,850.00 ( c) the total amount collected by way 1983-84 Rs. 9,050.00 of advertisement from the sponsors of Hum Log; and 1984.85 Rs. 18,390.00 ( d) whether there are offers for pur chase of the series from other countries '1 (c) The S.tate Government of' Kar nataka and Delhi Administration have THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE repotted that no complaint has been MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND received regarding tbe violation of Labour BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD Laws. As regards the Bombay branch, GIL) : (8) and (b). MIs. Time and Space tbe report from the Government of Maha Video Communication is producing TV rasbtra_ is still awaited. serial titled 'Hum Log' and sponsoring it over Doordarshan on usual terms and ~ (d) Action .would depend on the conditions of sponsorship. The sponsors nature of complaint recei)'cd. pay Doordarshan as. 35,000/- per 99 Written Answ~'8 AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers' 100 episode as telecast fee and incur all 5. Convention No. 136 concerning expenditure on production of programmes. Benzene; Doordarshan is not involved with the actual production of programmes and 6 Convention No. 139 concerning has not incurred any expenditure on Occupational Cancer. making of this serial. There is also no contract between Doordarshan and artists The sub-Committee bas submitted its of the serial 'Hum Log·. report for the consideration of the Com. mittee on Conventions. (c) Doordarshan bas earned a gross revenue of Rs. 41.61 lakhs upto 5.8.85 Press Censorship lu~ ,way of the sponsorship of the serial 'Hum Log9. 3852. SHRI AMAR ROYPRA- DHAN: Will the Minister of INFOR (d) Yes, Sir." MATION & BROADCASTING be plea sed to State: Report of the Committee on Conventions (a) whether it is a fact that Press 3851. SHRI K. RAMAMURTHY: Censorship is stiU prevailing in tbe coun Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased try; an~ to state: (b) if so, the reasons therefor and the (a) whether the sub-Committee of details thereof? the Conventions set up in 1 983 to under take the indepth examination of the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF unratified Conventions has submitted its THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION report; and AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): (a) and (b). The infor (b) jf so, the action taken tI-ereon ? mation is being coHected and will be placed on the table of the House when THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE it becomes available. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (,) and (b). The Com Packing of Milk Powder mittee on convensions at its meeting held in October 1983 consti 3853. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA tuted a sub-Committee on Conven RAO: Will the Minister of AGR I tjons. As per one of the terms of CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP. reference of the sub-Committee it decided MENT be pleased to state: to take up for'an indepth examination of the fonowing six unratified Conventions : (a) whether whole milk powder is packed throughout the world only in tin 1. CODvention No. 135 concerning containers to safeguard its quality; and Workers' Representatives in Under takings; (b) fr so, whether similar regulations are in force in country also? 2. Convention No .. 140 concerning Paid Educational, leave; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP 3. Convention No. 11 9 concerning MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAN Guarding of Machinery; DR,AKAR): (a) and (b). As per provisions of Pr~vention of Food Adult 4. Ccnvention 'No. 127 concerning eration Rules, 1955. spray dried milk Ma,c;irnum Permissible Weight to powder has to be packed in hermatically be carried by on'e worker; sealed containers if it exceeds 510 101 Written .Answ~rs SRAVANA 28, 1907 (St4KA) Written Answers 102' grams. Codex standard of milk powder Workers Participation in Industrial formulated by Joint FAO/WHO is how Establishment ever silent about packing clause. 3855. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: Textile Workers Succumbed to Cotton Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased Dust Disease to state: (a) total number of Industrial Es 3854. SHRI SAIPUDDIN CHOW.. tablishments in the country; DHARY: Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : (b) the number of such establishments where workers participation in Industry (a) the number of textile workers in has been formally introduced and is textile mills in Delhi who su~cumbed to operating at the Shop level and the Board the dreaded cotton dust disease; level; and (b) the number of workers exposed to (c) reasons for the unsatisfactory various ,kinds of acid-fumes in sub implementation of workers participation terranean electroplating operations and in management Scheme? in potteries, ceramics, asbestos and lead .. processing plants, in Delhi;· THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. (c) if so, the details thereof; and ANJIAH): (a) to, (C). According to the information available with the Bureau of Public Enterprises, the total number (d) steps taken/proposed to be taken of Central Public Sector Enterprises at to protect the health of workers? present in the country are 216 without including the financial institutions, insur.. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ance companies and those enterprises MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. where Government have made invest ANJIAH): (a) No case of cotton ments, but where management is not dust disease has b~en reported by the with the Government. 42 Central Delhi Ad ministration. Public Sector Undertakings have imple. mented the new Scheme on Employees' Participatioo in Management which was (a) and ( c). There is no sub-terranean electroplating factory registered under notified by the Government on 30th December, 1983. In another 13 Central the' Factories Act, 1948 in the Union Territory of Delhi. There is also no Pu blic Sector Undertakings, the Scheme report of any occupational disease among has been implemented partially 0- As regards participation at the Board level is workers employed in potteries, ceramics, concerned, the Scheme provides for draw.. asbestos and lead processing plants in ing up a list of undertakings suitable for Delhi. introduction of the Scheme at the Board level. The Government have not come (d) The Union Territory Adminis.. to any concl usion that the Scheme is tration has been advised from time to working unsatisfactorily. time to take effective measures for en .. suring safety standards in manufacturing Closure of Hindi News Agencies units by (i) updating Factory Rules in corporating the control measures pres 3856. SHRI VIJAY KUMAR cribed in the Model Rules. (ii) Str~ng MISHRA: -Will the Minister of INFOR thening the Factory Inspectorate by MATION AND BROADCASTING be appointing qualified inspectors and (iii) pleased to state : by intensifying inspections of all factories, particularly factories engaged in danger. (a) whether Government have taken our manufacturing processes. note of the closure of two Hindi News 103 Written Answer! AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 104 Agencies, ·'Samachar Bharati" and (C) jf so, . steps taken to check the "Hindustan Samacbar" ; rjs~ in prices and to make ntwsprint etc. avai1abIe at reasonable tates ? (b) whether there is any proposal to discourge the Hindi News THE i"'INISTER OF STATE OF TaB Agencies and give importance to English MINISTRY OF INFORMATION News Agencies; and AND BROADCASTING (SHRI . V.N. GADGIL) : (a) While the prices of indi (c) if not, tile steps taken to provide genous newsprint have remained at the adequate protection to Hindi News same level since March, 1984, there has Agencies? been some increase in tbe prices of impor ted newsprint. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (b) to (c). As newsprint is generally BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD not used for production of books, the GIL): (a) to (c). The Governnltnt is increase in thfir cost is Dot attributable aware of the' deteriorating condition of to the increase in the prices of newsprint. t~e two Hindi News Agencies, Samachar No new!)print is alfo:ated for the pro Bharati and HinduStan Samachar. These duction of exercise book s. agencies are still in existence. At a meeting of tbe leading editors and pro Investment for Irrigated Land prietors of 1anguage newspapers taken by me on 25th & 26th June~ 1985, it was 3858. SHRI PRATAPRAO B. BHO recognised that there is no possibility of SA LE: Will the Minister of AGRI reviving these two Hindi Agencies. In CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELO~ view of this" various alternatives for MENT be pleased to slate: having a language news agency \\-ere explored. A Committee of leading news (a) whether it is a fact thc;t the inve~t papermen headed by Shri R.N. Goenka ment for irrigafed !and is more than that examined the question in detail and came for unirrigated land; and to the conclusion that it will not be possible for the language press to raise adequate resources for starting a new (b) if so, the details thereof? news agency equipped with the modern technology. The Committee has noted THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE that an alternative could be to add DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. language service to the existing English MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAN.. news agencies. The report of the Com DRAKAR): (a) to (b). Yes, Sir. In mittee is under consideration of the the existing farming system, capital invest Government and no final decision has yet ment for irrigated land is more than that for unirrigated one. Under irrigated been taken. cultivation, there is greater demand for fixed capital investnlent in the form of Increase in tbe Prices of Newsprint igrigation structures (such as wells, pump sets etc.) and th~ir later maintenance. 3857. SHRI S.M. BHAITAM: Further, cultivation under irrigated condi Will tbe Minister of INFORMATION tions promotes modern agricultural AND BROADCASTING be pleased to technology (such as adoption of High state: Yielding Variety crops etc.), which (a) whether he is aware' that 'here requires higher input usage in the form has been a steep increase in the prices of of improved seeds, organic manures, newsprint etc. ; chemical fertilizers, irrigation charges, labour use etc. These caH for higher (b) whether as a rtsult of this steep financial outlay to meet tbe working ex. rise, the cost of books and exercise books penses on crop production under irrigated bas gone up; and conditions. Thus against· the above back- lOS Written A.nswer, SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKAj Written Answers 109 ground, higher investments on both fixed nated members of the Board are indicated and working capital requirements boost in the Statement below~ up the total capital investment/require .. ment in the case of crop cultivation on Functions: irrigated lands vis-a-vis the uuirrigated ones. The functions of the Board and basi calJy enshrined under different sections of Workers Participation in Management the Insecticides Act, 1968, and extracts from relevant sections are reproduced 3859. SHRI T. BASHEER: Will hereunder : - ' the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : Section 3 (e)-"insecticide'· means (ii) such other substances (in (a) whether Government propose to cluding fungicides and weedicides) bring any Jegi51ative sanction to back up as the Central Government may, workers participation in management at after consultation with the Board various levels in indus try; and by Notification in the Officia! Gazetted include in the Schedule from time to time. (b) if so, the details thereof? Section 4 (1 )-to advise the Central THE MINISTER OF STATE·OF THE State Government on technical MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. matters a rising out of the ad. ANJIAH): (a). and (b). The new ministration of this Act and to Scheme on Employees' Participation in carry out such other functions Management which was notified by the assigned to the Board by or under Government on 30th December, 1983 this _'._" lays down that "No legislation would be undertaken immediately to give any legis lative backing to the Scheme, Such a Section 4 (2)-the matters on which step would, however, be considered afler the Boarrl may advise under (1) above, adequate experience has been gained in shall incl ude matters relating to- the working of the Scheme". (a) the risk to human beings or Central Insecticide Board animals involved in the use of insecticides and the safety mea 3860. SHRI S.G. GHOLAP: Will sures necessary to prevent such the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND risk; RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : (b) the manufacture, sale, storage. transport and distribution of (a) whether there is a Board known insecticides with a view to ensure as Central Insecticide Board; safety to human beings or animals. (b) jf so, its composition and functions? The Insecticides Rules, 1971, framed under the Insecticides Act, 1968, assign THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the following additional functions to be DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE discharged by Central Insecticides Board, LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL namely:- CHANDRAKAR): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) advise the Central Government on (b) The members of the Board are the manufacture of insecticides indicated in Section 4 of the Insecticides under Indu~tries (Development and Act, 1 968. The present ex-Officio/nomi- Regulation) Act,. 1951; 1 07 Written An.swers AUa,lJST 19, 1985 Written An.Jtv~rs 108 (b) specify the uses or classification (d) specify the shelf-Hfe of insecti of insecticides on the basis of cides; their toxicity as well as their being suitable for aerial appli (e) suggest colonrisation. including cation; colouring matter which may be mixed with concentrates of in secticides, particularly tbose of highly to"ic nature; (C) advise tolerance limits (or insecti cides residues and on establish (r) carry out such other functions as ment of minimum intervals bet are supplemental, incidental or ween the application of insecti consequential, to any of the cides and harvest in respect of functions conferred by tbe Act or various commodities; 1hese Rules. Statement List of the Ex-O lfidoi NOlnirlQleJ ,\1embers on Centra! Insecticides Board 1. Director General~ Chairman, ex.Officio Health Service, Nrrman Bhavan, NEW DELHI. 2. Drugs Controller (rndia), Memb~ r, ex-Officio Nirman B havan, NE\V DELHI. 3. Plant Protection Adviser " ,,, to the Government of India,. Directorate of Plant Protection, Quarantine and Storage, FARIDABAD. The QuaHty Control Officer 4, " " (Executing the function of the Directorate of Storage and Inspection') Ministry of Food & Civil Supplies, (Department of Food), Krishi Bhavao, NEW DELHI. ~. Director General. Factory Advice Service & Labour Institute (Executing the function of Chief Adviser of Factories), Ministry of Labour & Rehabilitation, Eastern Express Highway, Sian, BOMBAY. 6. Director General, Indian Council of Agricultural " " Research. Krishi Bhavao, NEW DELHI. 109 Wrilttll AlUwers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 110 7. Director, Member, ex-Officio National Institute of Communicable Diseases, Alipore Road, NEW DELHI. '8. Director General, .,. ., Indian Council of Medical Research, Ansari Nagar, NEW DELHI.. 9. Director, ~~ .,-' Zoological Survey of India., 34, Chitranjan Avenue, CALCUTTA. 10. Director General, .., Indian Standards Institution, Manak Bhavan. Bahadur Shah Zafar Marg, NEW DELHI. t 1. Director General, '1 .,~ (Alternate/Dy. Director General) Directorate General of Shipping. Ministry or Shipping and Transport ~ BOMBAY. 12. Joint Director Traffic (General), Ministry of Railways, Railway Board, NEW DELHI. 13. Secretary., .." Central Committee for Food Standards., Directorate General of Health Services, Nirman Bhavan, NEW DELHI. 14. Animal Husbandry Commissioner, .~ Deptt. of Agriculture & Cooperation. Krishi Bhavan, NEW DELHI. 15. Joint Commi5sioner (Fisheries) '" Ministry of Agriculture, Department of Agriculture & Cooperation. Krishi Bhavan, NEW DELHI. ] 6. Joint Secretary and Director of ·~t Wild Life Preservation, ...' Deptt. of Environment, New Delhi. ,Exercising the functions of erstwhile Deputy Inspector GeDer~J of Forests (Wild Life). 111 Written Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Ifnswers 112 17. Industrial Adviser (Chemicals) Member. ex-Officio Directorate General of Technical Development, Udyog BbavaD, NEW DELHI. 18. Adviser (Chemicals) ., Ministry of Chemicals & " Fertilizers, Shastri Bhavan, NEW·DELHI. 19. Professor & Head of the }\1ember-r.. Nominated Department of Pharmachology, AU India Institute of Medical Sciences, NEW DELHI. 20. Depu ty Director, ., National Institute of Occupational " Health, Opposite Mental Hospital, AHMEDABAD. 21. Director 0( Health Services~ ,. Incharge Public Health, " Haryana, CHANDIGARH .. 22. Director of Agriculture, ,. II, Karnataka, Seshadr i Road, BANGALORE. 23. Joint Secretary and Agriculture fl. Commissioner, to the " Government of India. Ministry of Agriculture, -Department of Agricult ure & Cooperation, Krisbi Bhavan, NEW DELHI. 24. Director of Agriculture, ,. Maharushtra Central Building. " PUNE. 25. Director, #~ Central Forensic Science Laboratory, R.K. Puram, NEW DELHI. 26. Expert in Industrial Health and Occupational Hazards, " " Industrial Toxicological Research Centre~ Mahatma Gandhi Marg, LUCKNOW. 27. Director, ,i National Chemical Laboratory: PUNE (Mabarasbtra). SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) . 28. Senior ;Environmental Officer. Member ..;Nomioated Department of Environment, Bikaner House, NEW DELHI.• Mc:mber Secretary-Nomtnated Secretary, Central Insecticides Board and Registration Committee, Directorate of Plant Protection, Quarantine and Sttlrage, NH-IV, FARIDABAD. [Translation] Mizoram. Nagaland and Arunachal Licensing policy for rO.liog {lour mills Pradesh. where small scale units upto 30 MTs per day capacity have bcco permitted. 3861 SHRI DAL CHANDER JAIN: Will the· Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (d) During June~ 1979 to May. SUPPLIES be pleased to state: 1980 a large number of new units with a capacity ul)to 30 MTs per day were (a) the policy in regard to issue of permitted by various State Governments! liceoces for rolling flour mills and when Union Territories. MIs. Sargodba Roller ttds .,olicy was laid down and Uie period Flour Mills, Jabalpur were also permitted for which it was formulated; by the Government of Madbya Pradesh to set up such a unit during this period. (b) the circumstances in wbich this On completion this unit was granted a po1icy can be reviewed ; licence under tbe Wheat RoHer Plour Mit·ls (Licensing & Control) Order, 19S7• .. (c) tbe places where Government hne i'tSued tbe ticen~ for roiling lIour Import of farm teduaolop Iilins daridl the last tttree ,-ears ; trid '3862. SHRI JITENDRA PRA- (d) the citcumstances in which the SADA: licence has been issued to Sargodha Flour Mills, Jabalpur ? SHRI P&ATAPSINGH BAG H£L: TH'E MINI~TBR. OF FOOD AND W.Hl the Minister of AGRICULTURE CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO 'BIRBNDRA AND RURAL DIiVBLOPMBNT be (SINGH) : (a) and (b). Keeping in view pleased to atale : the capaoity a:lready created in the roller flour milling industry and !be level of utilisation by the ~"istin& units, (a) whether tbe Prime Minister-bad the CentFaI Goverament had -decided in recently advised tbe scieatists to mate May. 1980, as a general policy not use of the scientific research and achieve. to issue fresh permissioos for setting up ments for the adoption of modem of roller flour mills in tbe country. The methods of cultivation by the farmers and polic.y is reviewed froal time to time to increase agricultural productiOIl ; keeping in view the prevailing position. (b) if so, whether Government propose to import farm tcCbnblQaJ to tbat rainted (c). Relaxa'ion in the general policy areas and barren land of desert areas could bas boon .. made dur~ng the ,last three be c:onverted into feu ile land ·for agri years ooJy -ill respect of ..six cases culture 1lJ'Oduction ; and pertaining to remotejhiJly ~ tribal .areas, in Jammu & Kashmir, MeahaJaya, MaiDi pur (c) if so, the details in this regard ? 11 S Wrlnen A"swers AUGUST 19,198' Written Answ~rs 116 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether the Centre bas any DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE- special scheme to help Kerala to aug~ent LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL .the marine production ; and CHANDRAKAR) (a) No specific advice of the Prime Minister in writing (b) jf so~ tbe details tbereof ? to Indian Council of Agricultural Research scientists in this regard appears to "have THE MINISTER OF STATE IN been received so far in this Department. THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ·CHANDULAL (b) and (c). Does not arise. CHANDRAKAR) (a) and (b). The Central Government have no special Recognition to Trade Unions scheme in Kerala alone to augrr ent the marine fish production. However, number 3863. SHRIMATI VIDYAVATI of programmes are teing implemented CHATURVEDI : \\,ill the Minister of by the Centra] Government to promote LABOUR be pJeased to state: marine fishery in Kerala along with other State/Union Territories. The Govern ment of Kerala have also taken up an (a) whether it is a fact that the integrated fisheries project with financial recognition granted to trade unions by assistance from National Cooperative the Ministry after verification cannot Development Corporation. be withdrawn by the management on 1he pretext that it no longer enjoys the majority support unless it is cancelled Dr) land Development Board for Karoataka by the Ministry after verification regarding the majority support; and ~866. SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJES WARI : Will the Minister of AGRICUL (b) if so, action that can be taken by TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: Governmen~ in case the managements act against this provision? (a) whether any proposal from tbe THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Karnataka Government has been received MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. to provide special grants for the Dryland ANJ1AH): (a) and (b). As per Code of Development Board set up by State Discipline, when a Union has been recogni Government; and sed, there is to be no change in its position for a period of two years from the dafe of (b) jf so, action taken thereon and recognition provided it is Dot found the quantum of assistance sought by responsible for a breach of the Code State Government? during this period. Unilateral withdrawal of recognition by the management for THE MINISTER OF ST A TE IN any other reason would be a breach of THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL tl)e Code of Discipline by the manage DEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL ment inviting sanctions under the Code. CHANDRAKAR): (a) No, Sir. [English] (b) Question does not arise. Marine Production in. Kerala Deputation of officials abroad for· .3864. SHRI K. MOH~NDAS: training in equines SHRI K. KUNJAMBU : 3867. KUMARI PUSHPA DEVI Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: pleased to state: 11 7 Written AIUWer"' SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Written AfUWe,.~ 11 8 ( a) wbether Government propose to etc. incurred by tbe Food Corporation of depute some official abroad for training India, the deliveries to the State Govern in nutrition, breeding management and ments are now being made by tbeiD at health aspects of equines; Rs. 520 per quintal as against Rs. 540 per quintal fixed earlier. Providing for , (b) whether an agreement bas been the transportation, handling, storage signed with Food and Agriculture charges, etc. besides tbe margins to be Organisation for that purpose; and allowed to wholesalers and retailers, the issue price of imported sugar being dis (c) if so, the details of the agreement? tributed by the State Governments through controlled channels has now been THE MINlSTER OF STATE IN fixed at below Rs. 5.80 per kg. as THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL against the price of below Rs. 6.00 per DEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL kg. fixed earlier. CHANDRAKAR) (aJ and (b). Yes, Sir. [Tra'fs lation] Allocation of Fuods to U.p. under (c) Under the a~reement signed on 17th June. 1985, the Food & Agriculture N.R.E.P. Organisation will arrange training of six Indian offi.:ers in Hungary for a 3869. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: period of four months in all aspects of Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE breeding, management and health of & RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased equines. 10 State: Import and Free Sale Price (a) whether tbe amount allocated to of Sugar Uttar Pradesh by tbe Central Government during 1985-86 under the National 3868. PROF. MADHU DANDA Rural Employment Programme is less as VATB: Will the Minister of FOQ D compared to that allocated in 1984-85 ; AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (b) whether any further cut has been made in the amount allocated to the State under this bead for the year (a) whether sug:l.r is imported at a 1985 .. 86 ; price of Rs. 160 per quintal and sold in free market at a pric,", of nearly Rs. 60'0 per quintal ; and (c) if so, the reasons therefor; (b) if so, the reasons for such a wide (d) if not, whether Government are gap b~tween tAc import price and the free aware of the fact that tbe State Govern sale pr ice of sugar '1 ment has issued orders to different dis tricts to drop 40 per cent of the works selected under this head; and THE MI~[STBR OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLlES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). The approxi (e) if so, the justification for this mate average C&F price of sugar so far action '1 contracted for import during 1985 by the State Trading Corporation is about THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB Rs. 200 per quintal. Adding customs DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. duty, cess, insurance, port charges, etc., MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAN the -total price of imported sugar comes DRAKAR) : (a) The amount allocat to about Rs. 400 per quintal. Taking ed to Uttar Pradesh for tbe year 1985-86 into account the movement of imported under National Rural Employment Pro sugar from various ports to distant con.. gramme (N REP) is tbe same as last year suming centres, handling, storage charaes, i.e. Rs. 39.22 crores. AUGUST 19, 19" (b) No, Sir. AND BROADCASTING .,. ploased tQ Sftate : (.c) Dees 80t arise. (a) whether Government ha. received (d) No such orders to drop 40% of the report of the working group headed the works seJected under National Rural by Dr. K.S. Karantb Oft natienal; film .Employment Proaramme have been .i&sucd policy, by th~ ~tc Gevernment. (b) if so, 9fhen ; (.) Decs not arise, (c) whether the recommendations of {English]. tbe gronp have been' accepted by Govern ment ; and T. V. Transmitter at Kssauli (d) if so, tbe details thereof' and jf 3870.. SHRI SUKH RAM: "ViII n.ot, the reasons therefor and whether the Minister of INFORMA7ION AND these recommendations give more relief to BROADCASTING be pleased to state: the film industry? (a) the time by which the T.V. Tr2ns mitter being installed at Kasauli is expect THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ed to be com&njssioD~d ; MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD ... GIL): (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The (b) area of tbe State tbat win be report of the Working Group on National covered by the Kasauli transmitter; and Film Policy headed by Dr. K S. Karanth wa~ submitted to the Govt:rnment by the tbe (e) steps proposed to he taken to \\'orking Group on ) - ih May, 1980. cover the rest of the State particularly major towns Uke Mandi which fall outside the ambit of the KasauJi tel and (d). A statement gJViPg in transmitter ? formation about recommenda(ions which have been accepted whoJ1y or partly is THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE given below. MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD Some of the recommendations made by GIL): (a) The TV transmitter at the Working Group have not been accept Kasauli, . operating on reduced power of ed. The reasons fOT not accepting these 1 KW at present, is expected to be com recommendations are mainly that the missioned on full power of 10 K W in the subject-matter faUs within the purview of current year. the State Governments and they have expressed their reservations in this regard (b) Parts of Sirmaur, Solan, Shimla, or becaus~ of financial c,onstraints, it Hamirpur and Una districts are expected would not be possible to accept the to be covered by TV transmitter at recommendation. Kasauli. (c) Provision of TV service to UD The Working Group has generally re covered areas of Himachal Pradesh in commended relief to the film industry. cluding Mandi town would depend upon future availability of resources. Statement Report of Working Group on National The Working Group on National Film Film Policy Policy headed by Dr. K.S, Karanth, made, in all 231 recommendations. Some 3871. SHRI CHITTA ~1/\HATA : (If the important recomnlendations which Will the Minister of INFOR!viATION J:ave been accepted/accepted in principle/ t 21 Wrltt.. Answe,., SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAK.4) PA1it\y ac~ep~.4 ~y tho. (J~v~rlJ..mentjare which co~pel it operate in a briefty ~ follow~ :- speculativ~ environment. RecQmm.end(.l.tlon NQ. 6: The broad (viii) To regulate and improve ,be obj~ctivcs of the N,.t.ipQ~l Fil.m Policy working conditions of film should be as follows : employees. (i) To improve the cultural quality (ix) To Iiber~lise poli~ ~~arding of cinema considering its im import of equipment and raw pact upon soci~ty. stock in line with' the need for modernising the technologi (ii) To mako cinema accessible to cal base of film indu~try and -the largest number of people simultaneously to provide faci throughout the country. lities to undertake research and development for indigenisation (iii) To help the growth of cinema of film technology and to leeep a~ a medium of culture, artistic abreast of the latest deve expression, communication, en lopments. lightenment, and entertainment, and to develop a strategy for (x) To expand training facilities in tqe propagation of film appre the creative and technical as ciation and consciousness. pects of cinema, keeping in view the growth of cillem'l (iv) To belp the Indian cinema by in India. fccognising it as an industry of vital importance and extend it (xi) To - ensure that the taxation the same afacility as are avail pC'Hcies are in line with the able to otber importan t in· g~ne. al objective of encouraging dustries. the growth of cinema and that taxation does not contribute to making the market for (v) To encourage the production of cinema uncertain and specula short films, information/docu tive. This implies that the mentary, educational and scien general strategy of generating tific films and provide facilities tax revenues should aim at for their exhibition in schools, horizontal expansion of revenue colleges and community centres and not vertical rise in taxa in addition to exhibition tion levels. through theatrical circuits and harness their potential for so (xii) The import films reflecting cial progress. artistic and technical achieve ments from all over the world llwith a view to encourage crea (vi) To provide all facilities for tive interaction b~tween Indian production~ distribution and and international cinema, and exhibition of children's rilms in to fully exploit the foreign ex all regions of the country_ change earning potential of Indian films by sim ,lifying the (vi i) To as~ist in changing the fea pt'ocedure for export by pro .. ture film marketing conditions viding expert marketing infor in a manner which provide a mation and organisational sup- fair opportunity for films of . port to exporters and by en. aesthetic excellence and social couraging coproduction with relevance to reach the au foreign film makers. dience and at the same time reduce marketing pressures on Recon-1.'nendation No. 35: Theatre the box- office oriented film licensing rules should be simplified. 123 Wrlttell AMWII''' AUGUST J 9" J 985 Written Allswer" J 2" Recommendations No. 38 & 39 : In legislation should be enacted to regulate view of the acute shortage of theatres, the conditions of tbe cine-workers. construction of theatres specially of 400 to 500 seats with 16 mm projectors Some of these recommendations have should be speeded up through various already been implemented. measures such as provision of institutional financing, entertainment tax incentives Production of Documentary Films by and encouragement of travelling and Calcutta Doordarshan touring theatres. 3872. SHRIOIRIDHAR GOMAN Recommendation No. 63: Film Pro GO: Will the Minister of INFORMA cessing Laboratories should be brought TION AND BROADCASTING be under a licensing system. pleased to Slate : Recnmm?ndation No. 71 Immediate (a) the folk and tribal documentary action should b~ taken to set up facilities 16m. m. films prod uced by the Calcutta for manufacture of colour raw stock Doordarshan during the last three indigenously. years; (b) the names of the tUrns" producers, Recommendalion No. 89: All Na the contents of tbe films, and tbe money tional and State award winning films, spent on each film ; 'Q' certificate films and Children's films should be permanently exempted from ( c) whether the languages used in the entertainment tax instead of exempting tribal documentary fil ros are regional them only for a limited period. instead of tribal; and Recommendations No. 94 & 95 : (d) if so, the reasons thcreof ? Excise duty on film prints should be re duced. Prints of National award and State award winning films and of short THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE films which are approved for compulsory MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND release should be completely exempted BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD from e~cis~ duty. GIL): (a) No, Sir. Recommf'ndation No. ~ 06: FHm (b) to (d). Do not arise. making activity of the Films Division should be decentralised. Import of Edible Oil 3873. SHRI AMARSINH RATHA Recommendation No. 194: Govern WA: Will the Minister of FOOD AN D ment should set up a Standing Tribunal CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to stale : to be headed by a person wi+b judicial background to bear appeals against the decis.ons of Censor Board. (a) the quantity of edible oil imported by Government during tbe first six mon tbs of th is year, month-wise ; Recommendat:on No. 195 : An inter mediary censor classification should be (b) the quantity of .dible oj) distri introduced wh~ch may be designated as buted amongst the State Governmcnts 'UA\ This will indicate that the film is dur ing the same period ; approved for universal exhibition but contains material which the parents may (c) the criteria adopt~d for distribu not like children upto the age of 1 2 to tion of edible oil to the States; and see. This certjficate will be purely advisory. (d) the total quantity of edible oil allotted to Gujarat State during the same Recommendation No~ 222 Special period? 125 Written Answ~s SR.~VANA 28, \907 (SAKA) Written AlIIWen \ 26 THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND oils imported through State Trading Cor CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA poration, during tbe first six months of . SINGH): (a) The quantity of edible this year, month-wise, is given below : Month Qua'nti~y imported (MTS)* January, 1985 71,172 February, 1985 1,00,370 March, 1985 83,800 April, 1985 54,468 May, 1985 96,850 June, 1985 1,51,369 Total: 5,58,029 *These figures are approxi'mate. (b) The quantity of edible oils distri (a) whether the Central Government buted to States/Union Territories during have constituted a committee of official the first six months of the year is 3,40,103 and non-official members to decide MTs. common national policy and legal provi sions to be implemented by States for (c) The allocation of imported edible encouraging the Inland fisheries ; oils to the State Governments/Union (b) if so, whether the said committee Territories is made ,by the Central bas submitted its report to Government ; Government from month to month on tbe basis of demand, consumption pat (c) if so, details thereof; and tern, festival season. availability of (d) the steps Government propose to indigenous edible oils in the States/Union take to provide adequate financial assis Territories or region, avaHability of stocks tance to Maharasbtra State for the d~e with State Trading Corporation and other Jopment of fisheries in the State ? relevant factors including the pace of lifting of edible oils allocated earlier to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the States. DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND (d) The total quantity of imported RAKAR): (a) Yes, Sir. edible oils (RBD Palmolein) allocated to (b) and (c). The Committee i~ yet to Gujarat during first six months of the submit the report in this regard. Mean year is 26,500 MTs. while the State Governments and Union Territories have been requested to com Committee on Inland .Fisheries municate the suggestions for the amend ment of Indian Fisheries Act, 1 897. 3874. SHRI BANWARI LAL PURO HIT: (d) To develop fisheries in Maha rashtra the following CentraljCentraUy SHRI BALASAHEB VIKHE Sponsored Schemes are operating to PATIL: provide adequate financial assistance to the State: Will the Minister of AG RICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be (i) Fish Farmer Development, Agency pJeased to state: Programme; AUGUST 19, 1985 Writlt!n A1I8Wt!r3 ll8 (it) National Fish Seed Programme ; GovernmeDt had advised the State Governments to consider framing &ules (iii) Development of InJand Fishery under item (1) of Sub-Section (2) of Statistics ; Section 43 of the Act, on aJl aspects COD nected with health hazards arising out of (iv) :Development of Brackish Water spraying and use of jri~ect;cides and Fish Farming; ModeJ RuJes on this prepared by the DG F ASLI Organisation had been circutated (v) Grsup Accident Insurance Scheme to the State Governments/Union Territory for Active fishermen ; Administrations. (vi) Techno-socio-economic survey of Development of Small and Manum Towns Fishermen Community; , during Sixth Plan (vii) Development of FishIng Harbours 3876. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: at minor ports. Win the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: Plantation Workers in the Country (a) the nu~ber of small and medium 3875. PROF. P.J. KURIEN: Will towns taken up under h1tegrated Develop the Minister of LABOUR be pJeased to ment of Small and Medium Towns during state : Sixth Five Year Plan; (a) the total humber of plantation (b) the amount sanctioned by worif.:rs in the country ; Government for the development of these towns and amount released to the States (b) whether more tban 5S per cent so far; and of the jobs in the plantation Sector are held by women workers ; (c) whether Go\'ernment propose to formulate pOlicies as to how to maintain tbe assets created under ·Int~rated Deve (c) whether there is no provision to lopment 6f .small and Medium Towns' check OcCup,itional among the disease's Programme ? plantation workers; and . d) if so,. ftle 'detaits ,of specific steps 'ntE MINIStER OF PltRLfAMENT being taken in this reaard '1 ~RY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K'.L. BHA GAT): (8) arid (b). Under tbe centrM~ s'PoDsoted scheme fOr tbe integrated d~ THE MINrSiER OF STATE OF THE lopment of small and medium to'WDS '2:45 OF LABOUR (SHItI T. MJNlSTRY towns have been taken up for develop ANjlAH) : (a) The average daily ment dutidg t.fte ·si:Xih five year :p1an. A employment in plantations 'in 10 Stafes! sum of Rs. 63.57 cretes bas been Unjon Territories Which submit returns, rclea~ as central toaD astistanee for is 9,96,918, in the year 19-83. item s, including low cost -sanitation. lfDder the scheme. ' Details of towns approved (b) Information is being collected. and funds releaacd. are enclosed to the annexure laid on the Table of the House. (c) and (d). Section 17 of the Planta [P_ced in Library. S~e No. LT/l~7-81 tjon Labour Act empoWers the State 85]. GO\temments' to make Rules so that in every plantation the emptoyer shall pro , (c) According to the guidelines of the vide the workers with stICh mimber and scheme the State Government local bodies type of umbrellas. blankets, rain-ceats or are to identify the agencies for .proper other like amenities for the protection of D1aitlteilanCe and operation of assets and wotlc~s froin· rain or tdfd. 'the Centra) facUitits ub!det tlie selieme. 129 Written AIUWIW' SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written A1ISW6r8 t 30 Pilot Projects (or Rice Production fa rural indebtedness which has been prevail Aadhra Pradesh ing for a long time involving certain economically exploited and weaker sec 3877. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will tions of the society. The system originated the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND from the uneven social structure cbaracte.. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to rised by feudal and semi-feudal condi state: tions. Bonded labourers constitute one of the weakest section of tbe rural poor. Since modernisation in terms of electri (a) whether there is a proposal under fication, irrigation facilities apd literacy the consideration of Government for has brought about overall. development, selection of some blocks in the State of this may have had some effect on the Andhra Pradesh for taking up Pilot Pro bonded labour system. However, no jects for increasing the production of study in this regard has been made. The rice ; bonded labourers are mostly illiterate, landless, assetless and resource less persons. (b) if so, details thereof during tlte The solution of the problem, therefore, first half of the Seventh Five Year PI~n should include removal of illiteracy, period; ignorance, poverty, landlessness and asset lessness among the rural poor and creat (C) the expected share of financial ing avenues of employment for them. A assistance to be provided by the Govern number of programmes have been ment of India for Special Rice Production included in the 20-Point Programme Programme in that State; and for ameliorating the lot of the rural poor. ( d) the time by which the project is Construction of T. V. Centre at Porompat expected to be started ? (Manipur) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 3879. PROF .. MBIJINLUNG KAM DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP SON: Will the Minister of INFOR MENT(SHRICHANDULAL CHAND MATION AND BROADCASTING be ~AKAR): (a) No, Sir. pleased to state : (b) to (d). Question do not arise. (a) when the construction of tho Television Centre at Porompat (Manipur) Ineffective ModernisatioD of was started; Booded LaboUr (b) tbe time by which it will be com 3878. PROF. RAMKRISHNA pleted and commissioned; and MORE: Will tbe Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state -: (c) the power and range of the trans mitter? (a) whether modernisation in terms of electrificatioD, irrigation facilities and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB literacy rate had no positive effect on the MINrSTRY OF INFORMATION AND reduction of bonded labour system in our. BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD country; and GIL): ( a) Site for setting up a TV Transmitter at Porompt in Impbal was (bJ if so, tbe reasons thereof ? made available to Doordarsban in May 1985. Action for construction of building THB MINISTER OF STATE OF THB and tower has been taken UP. MINISTRY OF 'LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) and (b). The system of (b) It is expected that the. Centre bonded labour in India is an outcome of shall be ready (or operation in 1987. AUGUST 19,198' Written Answers 132 (c) The proposed 1 KW TV trans. CIVIL SUPPLIES be pJeased to state: mitter at Imphal is expected to have a service range of about 60 kms subject (a) the quantity of rice, pulses, wheat to local terrain conditions. etc. a1lotted to Kerala, 'during the last 3 years; Sale of Wheat 8s Animal Feecl to Korea· 3880. PROF. K.V.. THOMAS: (b) tbe demand put forward by Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL Government of Kerala and the part met SUPPLIES be pleased to state : by the Centre during the above period; (a) whether the Food Corporation of (c) whether the Centre has met the India is negotiating with the Animal Feed complete demands of Kerala for the Corporation of South Korea to sell about supply of additional foodgrains due to the one lakh tonnes of wheat as animal feed·, recent floods; and and (d) if so, to what extent and the (b) whether it is due to the adequate reasons thereof? storage facilities that tbe wheat stocks by FeI got damaged ? THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). A statement indi SINGH): (a) No, Sir, no such cating the information is given below. negotiations are under way at present by the Food Corporation of India. (c) and (d). The State Government (b) Doel) not arise. However, it is a has requested for additional monthly fact that the covered storage capacity allocation of 25.,000 tOp.Des of rice from with the Food Corporation of India is August, 1985, to Octcber. 1985. not sufficent to store food~rains stocks available with the Corporation, and The normal monthly al1ocation of inspite of the precautions taken, some 1,10,000 tonnes of rice to GOyt. of quantities do get damaged for want of Kerala was increased by 5,000 tonnes in covered storage space. June, 1985,10,000 tonnes in July, 1985, and 15,000 tonnes each in August and AllocatiOD of Rice, Pulses and Wheat September, 1985. In addition, a special to Kerla one-time allocation of 25,000 tonnes of rice was also made in JuJy, t 985. 38Hl. DR. K.G. ADIYODI : SHRI V,S. VIJAYARAGHA Allocations from the Central Pool are VAN: only supplemental to open market avail Will the Minister of FOOD AND ability. Statement Statement showing demand, allotment and offtake of rice, wheal and sugar during the Jears 1982 to 1984. (Figures in lath tonnes) -~.... Item 1982 1983 1984 Rice Demand 16.20 16.30 16.20 Allotment 12.05 13.05 13.60 Offtake 11.67 \2.94 13.23 131 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answen 134 'Item 1982 1983 1984 Wheat Demand 2.40 2.70 3.47 Allotment 1.37 4.13 S.28 Offtake 1.13 2.45 2.07 Sugar Demand * * • Allotment (£) 1.30 1.33 1.36 Offtake @ @ @ Pulses: There is no regular demand or allotment from the Central Government. .. The allocation of monthly levy sugar is not based on requirement or demand received from the State Government but is based on certain uniform norms out of the total availa~ility of leavy sugar for allocation to all the Stato Governments. Since 1-10-1983, the allocation of levy sugar is based on 425 grams per capita availability for a projected population as on 1-10-1983. £ Does not include small quantities allotted to BSF/CRPF. @ The State Government is itself arranging the lifting of allotted levy sugar from the factories. AUotmen t of Shops on Permanent Lease THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA 3882. SHRI V.S. VIJAYARAGHA SINGH): (a) and (b). The ex-factory VAN: Will the Minister of WORKS price of levy sugar is determined under AND HOUSING be pleased to state: the statutory provisions of Section 3 (3C) of the Essential Commodities Act, 1955. The levy prjce thus fixed takes into (a) whether Government propose to account the cost of production on the allot the shops in Government markets in basis of statutory minimum level of Delhi to the present licences on perma sugarcane price fixed by tbe Central nent lease; and Government. (bJ if so, the details tbereof 1 The partial control system with dual pricing which has been followed as a THE MINISTER OF P ARLIAMEN policy by the Government since Decem. TARY AFEAtRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA ber, 1979 envisages that if tbe factories GAT): (a) and lb). The information sustain any losses on tbe fixation of levy is being collected and will be laid on the price, as mentioned above, they arc ex Table of tbe House. pected to compensate themselves for the bigher cost of productioD, if any, from the realisations of the 35% of the free-sale Procurement Price of Levy Sugar sugar in the open market. The p rico iD open market is governed by the market 3883. SHRI M. ARUNACHALAM: forces of supply and domand. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Remunerative Prices for SagaI'C'aDe (a) whether it is a fact that the levy ProductJoa sugar is procured at a price lower thaD the cost of production of sugar; and 3884. SHRI VIJAY N. PATIL· Will tbe Minister of AORICULTURB (b) if so, the losses incurred by mills AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea during the past three years ? sed to state : J 3 S Written A1I.fWe'8 AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 136 (8) wbat was the total acreage under Charter Permits to Foreiga Vessels sugarcane cultivation during tbe yee:ar 1984; 388'. SHR.I 'DAULATSlNHJI JADEJA: Will the Minister of AGRI (b) what is the estimated area under CULTURB AND RURAL DEVELOP cultivation during the year 1 985; MENT be pleased to refer to reply given to Unstarred Question No. 3072 OD 15th (c) whether any complaints have bc:en April, 1985 regarding licences for using received from the sugarcane growers that foreign fisbing vessels and state : they are not gettina remunerative prices; and (a) whether any charter permits or Jetter of intents have been released since (d) if so~ steps Government are April 1(, 1985 and if so the details ~ , taking to improve the prices of sugarC:loe thereof; and to increase the production thereof ? (b) the particulars of Directors of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE such companies ; DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL (c) the tota1 num ber 01 cbarter boat~ CHANDRAKAR): (a) The area sown in JLdian territory; under sugarcane during t 984 is estimated at about 3 million hectares. (d) the names of the rorts which are being used by them; .(b) The estimated area for crop year 1985 is not yet available. te) whether fuel requirement or foreign charters boats is being met by (c) Yes, Sir. India; and (d) The statutory minimum prices of (f) if so, tbe reason thereof? sugarcane fixed by the Central Govern ment includes an element of remuneration for the growers. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI In order to increase production of CHANDULAL CHANDR~KAR): (a) sugarcane, the following strategy is being and (b). No letters of intent have been adopted: issued to any company since April 16, 1985. However, Charter permits have (i) production and distribution of been issued to four campanies against quality seed cane; letters of Intent issued earlier as per details in the statement below. (ii) expansion of area under irri. gation; (c) At present the~e are only six (iii) Jarger application of fertilizers; chartered vessels operating in tbe Indian waters. (iv) ~fficjent management of ratoon crop; (d) The allotted base of operation in respect of the ves5els mentioned in rep]ies (v) adoption" of intensive plant pro to 'a' & 'c' is Madras. tection measures; (vi) transfer of technology; and (e) No, Sir. (vii) training of personnaI. (f) Question doe. not arise'. 137 Written Answen SRAVANA 28, ,1901 (SAKA) Writt. AIUW.. 138 Statement Sl. Name of the Company No. of Board of Directors No. Vessels for which permits issued 1. M!&. Leo Sea Foods Pvt. Ltd., 2 Shri Sbamsher Singh New Delhi. (M.D.) Shri 1.M. Bhandari, Technical Director Shri R.S. Zari, Operations Director. 2. M's. Young Fisheries Pvt. Ltd., I Shri S. Prasad Reddy New Delhi. (M.D.) Shri T. Viswanath Shri Charanjit Singh 3. M Is. Star Marine Foods Pvt. Ltd., 2 Shri K.Y... Reddy Vishakbapatnani. (M,D.) Shri Y. Vasant Kumar. (Executive Director) Sbri T. Ragunatha Reddy (Technical Director) 4. Mis. Bali Cold Storage Pvt. Ltd., 1 Dr. C. Bali Madras (Chairman & M.D.) Sm • Vyjayanthimala Bali, (Director) Shri Sudhir Bali (Technical Director) [Translation1 language to the programmes broadcast and Telecast and broadcast of programmes in telecast in other regional languages? Bbojpuri THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3886. SHRI JITENDRA SINGH: MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Will the Minister or INFORMATION BROADCASTING (SHRI V_ N. GAD AND BROADCASTING bo pleased to GIL): (a) and (b). The main language state : of AIR Delhi and Doordarshan Kendra, Delhi is Hindi. Out of the D~lhi's (a) the total number of feature films, population, 75% speak Hindi, 14% plays, Kavi Sammelans an" other pro~ speak PUDjabi and about .5 % speak: grammes broadcast and telecast from Urdu. The percentage of the people AIR and Delhi Doordarshan respectively ~peaking other languages mentioned in in Bbojpuri dialect and language for the the Constitution and regional dialects recreation and enlightenment of Bhojpuri would be Jess than 1 % each. Therefore, 'Speaking people in Delhi whose number is there can be no fix.ed ratio of programmes Dot .l~s than twenty laths in the in Bhojpuri dialect vis-a-vis the main capital; and language of the Station/Kendra. (1) tbe ratio of the f)rogrammes, iF AIR, Delhi broadcasts Bhojpuri folk any, broadcast and telecast so far ill this songs tor a duration of 20 minutes (til AUGUSl 19. 198$ H'rltten AlI8wers J 40 alternate Mondays. During the last one TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT year, Doordarshan has telecast 6 items in be pleased to state : Bhojpuri, which include one feature films, 3 songs featured in the Cbitramala pro (a) whether Pilot projects wero gramme and 2 Bhojpuri folk songs. implemented in some States to control shifting cultivation as a Central Sector [English] Scheme; Telecast of National 'Programme from Doordanban Kendra Srioagar (b) whether the above pilot project wes subsequently transferred to tbe State 3887. PROF. SAIFUD-DIN SOZ: Sector Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to (c) whether Government are aware state: that the above projects have not been implemented properly due to resource (a) the time used - in telecasting constraints of the respective States; National Programme from Doordarshan and Kendra, Srinagar ; (d) if so, the specific ~teps proposed (b) the time utilized for local pro to be taken by the Centre to see that the grammes; and project is properly implemented? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (c) whether time utilized for local DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP programmes was enough in view of the MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND... public demand ? RAKAR): (a) to (c). Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE (d) A Central Sector programme for OF THE MIISTRY OF INFOR- control of shifting cultivation for Seventb MATION AND BROADCAST- Plan with an outlay of Rs. 75 croTes for ING (SHRI V.N. GADGIL): (a. The settling 25,000 jhumia families in aU the tin1e used in telecast of the National Pro problem States and Union Territories has gramme is 2 hours and 35 minutes per been formulated in accordance with the day on an average. It execJudes special recommendations of Task Force on Sunday morning and afternoon tr~nsmjs Shifting Cultivation in India and the sions. Committee of Ministers for Economic Development of North Eastern Region (b) The time used for telecast of and also National Board on Shifting Iccal prcgrammes by Doordarshan Cultivation. Approval of Planning Kendra, Srinagar, is 3 hours and 10 Commission and Ministry of Finance is minutes per day on an average. It awaited. The broad strategy is to wean excludes educational programmes telecast away the shifting cultivators from this for a duration of 20 minutes on school practice through beneficiary oriented pro days. grammes, aiming at providing alternative occupation and economic upliftment. (C) No such specific demand has been Once this proposed Central Sector Pro receivt:d. However, in view of constraints gramme is approved for implementation. of resources and Jjmited programme pro it will be taken up from 1985-86 and duction facilities, it is not possible to implemented by the concerned States and increase the total transmission time of Union Territories. Doordarshan Kendras, including SrinagaT, at present. (Translation] Applications for Setting up Flour Mills i. Pilot Scheme for Shifting Cultivation Himachal Pradesh 3888 SHRI RADHAKANTA DI 3889. SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI: GAL: . Will the Minister of AGRICUL. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL 141 Written Answer! SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Wrht~n Anrwnol 142 SUPPLIES be pleased' to state : . CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENORA SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. (a) number of persons who have applied for setting up flour mills in (b) Preliminary enquiries conducted Himachal Pradesh; at District level indicate involvement of Assistant Manager (Depot) in various (b) the action taken thereon; and irregularities including favour to the contractor. Further appropriate action (c) the number of the States in the is in progress. country which have sou~ht permission for setting up flour mills during the past Telecast of serial 'clndia·s struggle for two years '1 freedom" THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND 3891. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU: Will CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO B1RENDRA the Mini5ter of INPOR~~ATION AND SINGH): (a) and (c). A number of BROADCASTING' be pleased to state: applications have been received for grant (a) whether the serial entitled "India's of industrial lincence under I (D & R) struggle for freedom" WhiCh was being Act or for permission/Milling Lincence -showing on -Delhi television has been under Wheat Roller Flour Mills (L & C) discontinued; Order, 1957, for establishment of roUer Bour mills from almost all States/Union Territories in the country including (b) if so, the reasons therefor; and Himachal Pradesh. (c) whether various important (b) As the Government decided in episodes of the freedom struggle which May, 1980, as a general policy, not to have not so tar been shown will be issue fresh permissions for setting up of telecast regularly' roller flnur mifts ill the country, all appli cations received from Himachal Pradesh THE rvnNIsTER OF STATE OP THE for establishment of roller flour mills were MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND rejected. BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N .. GAD GIL): (a) No, Sir. [English] Complaints against Contractors and om. (b) Does not arise. cials of FCI in Sbabjahanpur, U .. P. (c), Yes, Sir.. 3890. SHRI JITENDRA PRA- SADA: Will the Minister of FOOD Sub-I... eting of Government Accom AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to modation 5tate : 3892. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI (a) whether Government have recei .. GRAHl : ved complaints of irregularities and SHRI M.V. CHANDRA- malpractices against contractors of Food SEKHAR MURTHY: Corporation of India in district Sbah SHRI H.G. RAMULU : jahanput", Uttar Pradesh; and Win the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: (b) if so, action taken against the erring contractors and officials of the (a) whether it bas come to the notice Food Corporation of India? of Government that many quarters aBott ed to Government Servants are Jet out THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND by them; 143 Wrlll~n AIUWn"8 AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 144 . (b) jf so, whether any survey has (a) tbe quantum or sugar reJ~d ~n made in this regard in Delhi parti. from the levy quota for public distribu cularly in Sewa Nagar, Andrews Ganj tion system in Kerala durina the last and Sadiq Naaar and jf 10, the outcome six months; tbereof ; (b) the monthly requirements as per (c) whether any steps have been taken the demand of tbe State Government ; to stop tbis unhealthy practice; . (c) whether State Government have (d) whether any action bas been taken been demanding a rise in the quota; and against such erring employees ; (d) whether their request has been acceded to ? (e) nature of action taken; and THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND (f) detai1s thereof ? CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) and (b). State-wise THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN monthly levy quotas of sugaar are not TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA based. on tbe requirement or demand of GAT): (a) Some cases have come to the State Government. These are allotted the notice of the Government where the on the basis of certain uniform Dorms Government quarters allotted to the out of the total available levy sugar for Government Servants are let out ~y thelD. allocation to all State Govts, Kera]a Government was alloted a monthly levy (b) and (C). No specific survey has sugar quota of 1 1225 tonnes during the been conducted in these areas. However, last six months. However, for the surprise inspections are. being carried months of June and August, 1985 an out vigorously in d.fferent colonies for additional quantity of 1794 tonnes was detecting suspected cases of subletting. also allotted as an additional festival S~cific complaints against subletting quota for dIstribution through Public are also attended to. Distribution System. (c) and (d). No request for enhance (d) and (e). Cases where subletting ment of monthly quota was received from is proved, allotment of quarter is cancell the State Government during the last ed immediately and eviction proceedings six months. initiated under the Public Premises (Evic tion of Unauthorised Occupants) Act, Outdoor Telecast Vans in Orissa 1 971 Penalties by way of debarring the G~vernment official for further a1l0t 3894. SHRI ANADI CHARAN DAS: _t upto 3 years, increasing the rent for Will the Minister of INFORMATION the period of overstay. . debartment from AND BROADCASTING be pleased to sbaring of accommodation, etc. .are State: imp~. (a) the steps being taken/proposed to (f) A total of 654 cases of subletting be taken to strengthen tbe capability of have been detected and in 318 cases the existing TV Centres in Orissa; subletting bas been proved, penalties have been imposed under the rules. The re (b) the details of existing outdoor maining cases are under process. telecast vans (for live telecast) proposed to be added in Orissa ; and Levy Sugar Released for Kerala ( c) the details of action taken to make 3893. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Jive telecast of regional sports in States to Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL encourage sports and education and cul SUPPLIES be pleased to state: tural programmes 1 14S Written Answn-8 SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answe,.s 146 . TAE'MINlS'TER OF STATE OF THE (b) whether Central Government will MINISTR Y OF INFORMATION AND also allocate some amount for this pur BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD pose; and 'GIL): '(a) 'and (b). It is ,proposed to let up a "V Centre at Bhubanesbwar (c) if so, the amount to be allocated \V~th 'full-fledged studio facilities and pro by the Centre? vision of a c010ur OD ·van. Besides~ the 'installation of a low 'power TV trans THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 'initter at -Bhavanipatna is under imple DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE "mentatioD. LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) No State-wise (c) The telecast of regional -sports in allocation of funds has been made under Orissa would be possible when saleH ite the new Comprehensive Crop Insurance mode of Iinkage is provided in the State. Scbeme. The implementation of such a scheme would depend upon ·future availability (b) According to tbe new Crop Insu of resources. rance Scheme, State Govts. are to set up State Crop Insurance Funds. 50% of this Separate Printing Press for Parlia fund falls in the share of the Central mentary Work Govt. Further. subsidising th~ insurance service charge (Premium) payable by 3895. SHRI JAGDISH AWASTHY : small and marginal farmers to the extent WiJl the Minister of WORKS AND of -50% is also envisaged in the scheme. HOUSING be pJease:d to state: 50~~ of this subsidy amount also falls in the share of the Central Government. (a) whether the scheme for establish Contribution of funds by the Central ing a separate Printing Press for Parlia Govt. on a matching basis for strengthen. mentary work -as approved by tbe Ex ing the machinery for augmentation of penditure Finance Committee .:>f Govern crop cutting experiments is also envisaged ment has been implemented; and in the scheme, (b) if not, the reasons therefor? (e) Amounts of allocation to the va rious States have not been decided since THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN formal proposals have not been received l'ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA.. in this regard from tbe various State ,OAT) (al < No Sir. Govts. which are implementing. the scheme. - (b) The project was sought to be revised keeping in view the observations [ English] of the Lok Sabha Seett. It is now being Towns Selected in Andhra Pradesh taken up on priority basis and is expected for Implementation of Basic to be implemented wi thin three years. Needs~lDes [Translation] 3897. SHRI G. BHOOPATHY : Allocation for Kharif Crop wurance Will the Minister of WORKS AND .ja 'Bibar HOUSING be pJeased to state: 3896. SHRI RAMASHRAY 'PRA tal how many towns have been select SAD SINGH: Will tbe Minister of ed in Andbra Pradesh for implementation AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVE of 'Urban Basic Service Scheme' -.Pro LOPMENT be pleased to State: gramme by Central Government; and (a) break-up of the amount allocated (b) what are tbe development acti for insurance of Kharil crop in Bihar vities proposed by Central Government State i in selected towns, under this scheme ? 147 Written Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 148 THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN duled Tribes has been received; if so, TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. action taken thereon? BHAGAT): (a) Under the Urban Basic Service programme 4 towns in Mehboob. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND nagar District of Andhra Pradesh have CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA been selected for implementing the SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. The appli UNICEF assisted scheme by the Central cation for grant of Letter of Intent for Government. setting up a new sugar factory by the (b) The proposed development acti Parshuram Sahakari Sakhar Karkhaoa at vities under this Scheme areas under :- Chiplun is under the consideration of the Government. (i) ·to extend child. care and health services, water and sanitation (b) No, Sir. faciJities and income earning op. portunities for women and urban Reclamation or Fallow Land in Orissa poor; 3899. SHRI K. PRADHANI: Wi 11 (ii) to extend health and community the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND education services to the poor RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to people in the slum areas ; state : (a) the area of fallow land in Orissa (iii) to reduce the rural urban and rec1ai,ned under the 20 point Programme imbalances in social developmen t ; during 1982-83 uptiI 1984-85; and (iv) to enhance survival and develop- (b) the target set for 1985-86 for the ment of children and women in State ? low income families. THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE Restc,ration of Letter of Intent for DEPAR:fMENT OF RURAL DEVE Parsburam Sabakari Sakharkbana of LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL Chiplun in Maharashtra CHANDRAKAR): (a) and (b). A pro. 3898. SHRI HUSSAIN DALWAI: gramme of restoration of fallow land Wil1 the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL , (other than current fallows) was laun SUPPLIES be pleased to state: ched jn 8 States viz. Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Karnataka. Madhya Pradesh, (a) whether an application for grant Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh of letter of intent in favour of Parshuram and Tamil Nadu during the productivity Sahakari Sakharkhana of Chiplun in year 1982-83. The programmes was Mabarasbtra for setting up a new sugar extended to five more States including factory was received; if so, the action Orissa during 1983-84 and 1984-85. thereon; and According to reports received from the (h) whether any application for State Government, a total area of 15,709 setting up a cooperative sugar factory at ha. was restored in the State of Orissa ChaJisgaon in Maharashtra by the mem during 1983-84 and 1984-85 wi~ bers of the Scheduled Castes and Sche- break-up as follows: (Area in ha.) Year Restoration for Raising plantation of Total agriculture utility trees and forest species 1983 520 8,313 8,833 1984-85 400 6,4 "6 6,876 920 14.789 15,709 149 Written Answers· SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 SO The programme was not continued Irregularities Committed by NFDC during 1985-86. However, a Centrally sponsored scheQle of "Survey, Cate. 3901. SHRI SANAT KUMAR gorisation and Restoration of Cul- MANDAL: Will the Minister of turable Waste Lands and Fallows INFORMATION AND BROADCAST- Other than Current Fallows" for 1NG be pleased to state : surveying about 2 million ha, and res toring 5 lakb ba. has been proposed to (a) whether financial and adminis Planning Commission for implementation trative irregularities committed by the during Seventh Plan in the States inel ud- National Film Development ·Corporation ing Orissa. A final decision on tbe pro have come to notic·e of the Ministry; posal is awaited. (b) if so. the details thereof; Setting up Co-operati,e Oil Mills (c) what check is being exercised 3900. SHRI K. PRADHANI: over the proper accounting and re Win the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL patriation of NFDC's export earnings SUPPLIES be pleased to state: involving sales receipts from video films through private persons to whom video (a) whether Government have take~ rights were sold; steps to increase the number of co operative oil mills in the country; (d) tbe ratc of commISSIon paid to these private persons or agencies; and (b) if so, the Dumber of co-operative oil mills that have been set up in diffe (e) the amount so far remitted to rent States; India on account of the sale of video films? (c) tbe number of such co.operative oil mills which nave been set up in Orissa THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB 10 far; and MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD (d) the names of the places where GIL): (a) Yes Sir. those co-operative oil mills have been set up ? (b) Since the matter is Wlder investi- .... gation, it has not been found possible to THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND furnish the details. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. (C) to (e). The information is being collceted and wiIJ be laid on tbe Table of (b) to (d). There are 43 Co-operative the House in due course. Oil Mills in the different States, The following two parties have "been issued Allocation of Sugar to West Bengal Industrial Liccnces for setting up of oil mills in Orissa : 3902. SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL: Will the Minister of FOOD (i) Mis. Orissa State Co-operative AND CIVIL SUPPLIES bo pleased to Marketing Federation, Bhubancsb state: war (District Sambhalpur), (a) the quantity of levy sugar cur rently allocated to West .Bengal and (ii) MIs. Orissa State Co-operative proposed to be allotted during the Dext Oil seeds Growers, Federation Ltd .• quarter; Bbubaneshwar for mustard and sroundnut (TehsiJ, Khurda, Dis (b) whether in view of the ensuing trict Purl). festival ScasOD. Government wilJ comidcr 1 5 1 Written Answ~rs AUG.UST 19, 1985 Written An.swers 1 5 Z , the expediency of increasing this quota; if Minimum Wages of Mioing, WorkerS so, by how much; and' 3993. SHRl LAKSHMAN MAL LICK: Win the Minister of':LABOU·R.' be pleased to state : (c) if Dot, the reasons therefor? (a) whetheE Government haw recea.t~y revised the miAimum wagos, of .*illed, THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND workers and agricultural workorJ fixed· for· <;IVIL. SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA 34 scheduled employments; ~INGH): (a) to (c). A monthly levy s'ugar quota of 24,435 tonnes is being (b) if so, whether Government have presently allotted to West Bengal Govern considered the minimum wages of mining ment. For the current month of August, workers; and 1985 an additional quantity of levy (c) jf so, the detaib thereof an d sugar of 3906 tonnes for festival purpose when these new wages will come into has also been allotted to the State force ? Government., THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE While the normal monthly quota of MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. levy sugar is expected to remain at the ANJIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. existing level in the coming months Inext (b) an d ( c). The rates of minimum quarter, the release of additional levy wages were revised ror 29 mInIng sugar for festival purpose would be con empJoyments with effect from February sidered having regard to the total avail 12, 1985. A statement gIVing the ability position vis-a-vis the requirement revised rates of minimum wages is given of various State Government. below. 1 S 3 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 154 o I 1 I I I I o. o o o o o o ,....r "Q "Q ""0 "0 "0 "0 I 1 I , I ! o It'\ 1 I I I I I q N o o o o o o r <:> "Q '0 "0 "'0 "0 "0 .... N I I I I I I .5 I/"') 00 N • N • ~ I ~_.,:, , , I 1 t 1 o o o o o o It'\ . 1\0"] I "0 "C '0 "'0 "0 "0 I"'" e I \ I I I I I I co I I ~ I I _g I , ~ 1 I ~ ~ I , , 1 I I o oI I tf")• I o o o o .2 ~ "'0 "'C "'Q "'0 "'0 I ~ '-' I 1 I I , l I Vl an OCI 00 I I I c.....=o 0 I I I o o «I) ._ I N o o o N "C "0 "0 "0 "'0 -.!! I • «I > N N , I I Q e ...... I 1 0_ ~ CI '-- 8Q o ~ 4) 0 So. QS 8 Z~ _·0 . u.lZ ..... \0 AUGUST 19. 1985 Written A tWtHr8 1 '6 o 0. , I I I , I I I o -go o o o I o o o " '0 "0 't:J "0 o "'C ..... "'C ." I I I I I I I I '"I o ·1 I , I I . o o o o o I I I I \C> o "0 o o o o . 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SRAVANA 28, 1907 (S.4U) Written Anstr~r. 1 S8 I I I I I J I J o oI o o o o o o o ~ ~ '0 '0 '0 ~ "C '0 '0 I I I I I I J I I I I , I I I I I I I I o oI o o o o o o o 000 ~ '0 '0 -0 "a '0 '0 '0 '0 I I , I I I I I I IIi , I I I I J 1 I I , I I o o o o o o o o o 000 "0 '0 '0 '0 '0 "a "C "0 '0 ~ "0 I I I I I I I I 1 I I , I I I I I , I I I I o oI o o o o o o oI 000 '0 "0 '0 "0 '0 '0 "C "'0 '0 "'0 "'0 "'0 I J I I I I 1 I 1 I I I I I I I I 1 I I I r I o o o ! o o o o o o 0 0 -0 '0 '0 "C '0 "C "C '0 '0 '0 '0 "G t I I I I I t I I , I I •I) .9 .9 ._c:I 0." c .-= ...I) c ~ -~ .- :i C)~ i~ 8 I) 8 I) ~.~ ~.-= .98 -0.0... 0.0 8'; 80 ~..J ~Q 00..... 1 S9 Written Ans... erl AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 160 Memorandum Submitted, by National ~am Centre-wise and year-wise during Sixth p8ign Com ..i~e qn ~kouts., ClosUre, Plan? De-Notification and Retrenchment THE MINIST];:R OF :ST A TB IN THE 3904. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK: DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI to state what steps Government had taken CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) in regard to the memorandum submitted No, Sir. The All India Coordinated on May, 1 985 by the NJ:LtionaJ Campaign Res~arch Project on Cattle envi$aged pro Committee cOmPrisiirg of 8 Central Trade duc'tion of a certain number of half bred Unions in respect. of closure, lockout, and second generation crossbreds by retrenchment and, de-notification ? crossing Indian breds of cattle viz. Hariana. Gir & 0ngole with exotic breeds THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE of Holstein Friesian, Brown Swiss & MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. Jersey at different units of the project. ANJIAH) : : In a memorandum givep to As a policy matter keeping in view the the Labour :M~njster 00, tbe 15th N1ay, Jimited facilities in term of infrastructure 1985 the National Campaign Committee ~ , space & feed & fodder -resourCes it WaS of Trade Unions had drawn attention to decided by the workshOp that the founda. the reported increase in the incidence of tion stock will be called as soon as the lockouts and closures and opposed de. requisite number of half breds females has notification of Industries which allegedly been achieved and the half bred females resulted in loss of employment to workers. will be culJed from the Project as soon as Lockouts and closurtts are regulated the targetted nurrlber of second 'generation under the relevant provisions of, the crossbreds females and recording of Industrial Disputes Act, 1 947. According performanee of half 'breds has been to existing policy guidelines laid down by achieved. the Ministry of Industry and Company A trairs, whenever a decision is taken to (b) No, Sir. de-notify an Indu,strial Unit, it is based on the conclusion, thal it will not be Allotment of L'and to S.D. Education possible to revive, it as indiCAted by the SOCiety, IJelhi operational resUlts during the period in which the unit has been managed after 3906. PROF. NARAIN CHAND the takeover. PARASHAR: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pJeased to Unsatisfactory Cattle Breeding state : Research Project (a) whether his Ministry had allotted 3905. SaRI ANJ\NOA ,P~J'HAK : throu:gh Land and Development Office in Win the Mmister of AGRICULT.URE 'or -around 1966,' a plot to·S.D. EaucatioD AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT' be Soclety, Delhi to run the Govemibent pleased to state : aided J.V.S.D. Girls Sr. secondary School at . p-IJ :Jhandewalan' Extension, Karol (a) whet~r de$pite, Centre;~~"$e f~~ds , Bagh, New 'Delhi; released by ICAR under Cattle BreedIng Research Project ·d uriDg Sixth !Ian the (bt if s~, whet~er complete possession number of halfbreds and of their female of the land to the society bas been given progency has ~harpJy declined, if so if so, the date thereof; details thereof and corrective measures (c) if not the steps taken to hand over Government had taken; and the complete possession to the S.D. Education Society; and (b) whether the reproduction. produc tiori of milk and the survivability of ( d) tbe time by which they will be crossbreed females in the research farms able to do so and tbe reasons for had fallcn sharply; if so, details thereof, delay? 161 Written Answer, SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 162 'tHE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT (c) and (d). There is no such proposal ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA at present under consideration. OA T) : (a) to (d) A plot of land mea suring 1.4 acre was allotted to the S ~ D. National Egg Development Board Education Society and possession of land wa~ handed over on 3 .. 6-66 except pocket 3908. SHRI M. RAGHUMA of land where 3 squatters obtained stay REDDY: Will the Minister of AGRI order from the Court against the DDA CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP. and L&DO. The cases of tbese persons MENT be pleased to state : are under consideration of DDA. for providing them alternative accommo dation under Gadgil Assurance. (a) whether Government propose to constitute a National Egg Development Board; Telecast of ,programme for Himachal Pradesh by Doordarsban Kendra, Jalandhar (b) if so the functions and powers of the Board; and 3907. PROF. NARAIN CHAND P ARASHAR: Will the Minister of (c) whether Government consider egg INFORMATION AND BROADCAST production as "Agriculture" or Industry? ING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB (a) whether the Doordarshan Kendra, DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. Jalandhar telecasts its programme for MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAND_ Himachal Pradesh including those in RAKAR): (a) No proposal to consti Pabari language in the early hours of the tute a National Egg Development Board evening thus Anot providing for their is under consideration. inadequate r .ception ; (b) Does not arise. (b) if so. the broad outlines of the programme ,eant for Himachal Pradesh (c) The Department of Agriculture and Pahari la 19uage in particular along and Cooperation has already suggested to \Vi th the tim \ alJott~d for this purpose by State Governments/Union T_erritory Ad the DoordarS lan Kendra; ministrations to give poultry farming for t prod uction of eggs and table poultry. ( c) whet~er the timings would be the status of agriculture for purposes readjusted to'late in the evenings between of electric tariff, labour and land laws, 8 to 10 P.M. and also inclease the time institutional finance, sales tax, octroi, etc. for both the c~tegories; and Sbortage of Poultry Vaccines and (d) if so. the likely date by which it Medicines would be done? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3909. SHRI M. RAGHUMA MINISTRY OF INF()RMATION AND REDDY: Will the Minister of AGRI- ' BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GAD CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP.. GIL): (a) No programme in Pahari ME NT be pleased to state : language for Himachal Pradesh is telecast by Doordarshan Kendra, lalandhar in its ( a) whether there is shortage of aflern oon transmission. poultry vaccines and medicines in the country; (b) Programme in Pahari language is telecast by Doordarshao Kendra, Jalan dhar in its Sunday morning _transmission (b) if so, whether Government plan for a duration of 45 minutes from 8.45 to establish industries of poultry medicine a.m. to 9.30 a.m. in Cooperative/public sector; 163 Written Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 W rlllm Answers 1 64 (c) whether at present these industries Standardisation and quality control Qf are mostly under private management; if veterinary biological products including so, the details thereof; poultry vaccines and drugs are regulated under tbe Drugs and Cosmetics Act of (d) whether there is price control on the Government of India. the poultry drugs; Amount Sanctioned for West Bengal (e) whether Government are imple Agricultural Development Programme menting quality 'control on fhese medi cines; and 3910. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSI: Will the Minister of AGRI (f) if so, the details thereof ? CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP MENT be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAN (a) total Fifth Plan and Sixth Plan sanctioned amount for West Bengal Agri DRAKAR): (a) and (b). By and large there is no shortage of poultry medicines cultural Development Programme that and vaccines against commonly occurring had been spent; poultry diseases in the country. (b) the estimated target of production (c) Poultry vaccine and medicine during the Fifth and Sixth Plan in \Vest manufacture is both under public ,; and Bengal and how much had been achieved; private sectors. Whereas vaccines" :(are and produced at 1 7 public and three private sector units, medicines are produced mostly by private agencies, and the (c) the average best fOLf States of public sector viz. Indian Dr ugs & India that had done welJ duri;g these two Pharamaceuticals Ltd., etc. Plans and their names ? 'I: (d) Drugs (Price ContrOl) Order THE MINISTER OF STA 'fE IN THE is applicable to all drugs both for DEPARTMENT OF RURAf~'DEVELOP human and veterinary use, including MENT (SHRI CHANDUIrAL CHAN poultry drugs. DRAKAR): (a) The porition regard ing sanctioned outlay and e~pendil ure for (e) and (f) .. Quality Control of vac Agriculture and !\J1icd Sectors inc1uding cines is undertaken by Standardisation I R ~ral Development and C~operation for Quality Control Units set up by each FIfth Plan (1974-7 9) and Sixth Flan production centre. Futher, manufacture, (1980-85) in West Bengi.11 is as follows :- (Rs. in lakhs) Plan period Sanctioned Expenditure outlay -..__ Fifth Plan 19870 ~4019 (1974-79 ) Sixth Plan 67870 42814 (1980-85) 165 Written Answer" SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 166 (b) Targets of production and actual Fifth Plan (1978-79) and Sixth Plan production of important crops in West (1984-85) are as follows : Bengal during the terminal years of the (In lakh tonnes) Crop 1978-79 1984.85 ----.....-.-...... - ---,__.---...... ~-_.. Target Actual Target Production production (Provisional) Foodgrains 105.0 80.4 120.0 92.6 Oilseeds 1.0 0.9 2.0 2.3 Sugarcane 20.0 18.8 26.0 10.2 Ju te and Mesta 43.0 43.7 45.0 44.7 (Lakh bales of 180 Kg. each) (c) No grading is done in regard to already been produced by the Films performance of the States in terms of their DivisioD. Owing to financial constraints, plan performance. it is not considered necessary to produce another full· length musical docoumentary on these great musicians. Musical Documentary Film on Late Ustad Alauddin Khan Bade Gulam Ali and [Translation] Begum Akhtar Profits/Loss of State Farms Corporation of India 391 t . SARI PRIY A RANJAN DAS MUNSI: Will the Minister of INFOR 3912. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: MATION AND BROADCASTING be DR. A.K. PATEL: pleased to state: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (a) whether there ia a proposal for a AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea full length musical documentary on late sed to state : Ustad Alauddin Kha~, Bade Gulam Ali and Begum Akhtar to further inspire and (a) the objectives with which the educate our young musicians on the Style State Farms Corporation of India was set and gharana of tho5e great Artists; up; and (b) the extent of loss suffered or (b) if so, whether it will be implemen profit earned by it during the last years ted; and and also this year, year-wise and the annual production of cotton, moong, (C) if not~ the reasons thereof? gram and seeds and reproduction seeds during these periods ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE THE MINISTER OF STA TB IN MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL BROADCASTING {SHRI V.N. GAD DEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL GIL} : (a) No, Sir. CHANDRAKAR) : (a) The State Farms (b) Does not arise. Corporation of India was set up in 1969 with following objectives :- (c) Documentary films on Ustad Alauddin Khan and Begum Akhtar have (1) To set up and run agricultural 16 7 Wrin~n Answer.J AUGUST 19, 198' Wrllte" Answer, 168 farms for the production pri business of farmers, producers. marily of seeds of foodgrains, processors, exporters, packers and fibre crops, plantation crops. importers of agricultural produce oilseeds_ vegetables and fruits as of all kinds including dairy, well as study of these crops in poul try, garden and borlicu) ture the \'aTious parts of the country produce, on land acquired by the Govern (6) To· carryon the business of metrt of India from the State keepers, breeders, importers, ex Governments. porters and traders of poultry and cattle of an kinds. (2) To set up poultry, sheep, pig and other cattle breeding farms either (7) To give on hire machinery be10ng as independent units or as part of jng to the company to State and agricuJ lural farms" Central Government and private individuals. ( 3) To undertake development, re clamation and improvement of (8) To function as seedsmen, nurse lands required for or under the men and to buy, sell and trade in Farms belonging to the Company. any goods assoCiated with the activities of the company. (4) To undertake development, re clamation and improvement of land (b) The position about the net beionging to private parties On profits earned or net losses incurred dur payment by these parties. ing the financial years 1981-82.1982- 83, 1983-84 and 1984-85 is given (5) To carryon all or any of the below:- Net profit (+) Net loss <-) Year (Rs. in Jakhs) ~------1981.82 <+) 2.38 1982-83 (- ) 35.33 1983-84 (-) 279.05 1984-85 (-) 40.00 (Tentative) The figures of 1984-85 are tentative cotton, moong, gram and pro since the accounts have Dot been finalised duction of seeds by State Farms Cor so far as tbe financial year of State poration of India during the years 1981- Farms Corporation of India ·funs from 82, 1982-83, 1983-84 and 1984-85 is July to June. given below. : The total production of crops like 169 Wrluen Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) W,itten Answer., 170 ~-a 0 0 0 0\ "CCI- \0 .... r--. .as ~ V'\ \0 IS 0':: N \0 r--. ff') '"00 CIl~ I '-' - ~ "...... 00 Wl 0\ 00 ~ .... «i -; 00 0 ff') c 0 "'" - .qo oS- ~ "'"0 roc C'f'a V'\ Of c: - ..._,~ f I C'I) '0 \0 r--. ('f') ~ I u N r--. 00 0 '"~ .... 0 I rI'l V'\ ~ -.:to C'f'a• N 00 I 0\ , - -; r--. ('f') ...... I 'ot:I" tI') I' 0 0 ~ 0\ foot \0 ~ I N ('f') I I I 0\ 0 I' ,.; ~ 0\ ('f') 00 ('f') "'"0 \0 0 00• I~ "'" .qo N - 00 I 0\ .qo r r--. ~ t; ~ f 0\ \0 - ~ \0 0 - 0\ 0 N foot ("000- 1 (f\ .... I ( I I N J 00 C'I) r-.. . '0 0\ N I u 0 ~ N 00 u \0 00 r-.. -0\ I CI:l ('f') \0 ~ I I ff') - I - -; N I 0 00 '"-.::to --.::to N 00 ~ N I N lit') ('f') '"\C Wl Q. 8 o... .s... U o 1 71 W rilten Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 172 [English] THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT Hotel built by DDA near Iodrapratha ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L, BHA Stadium GAT): (a) Yes, Sir. 3913. SHRI SOMNATH RATH (b) and (c). Delhi Development 'SHRI CHINTAMANI JENA : Authority are working out a specific scheme for thee development of Walled Will the Minister of WORKS AND City, within the overall Master Plan for HOUSING be pleased to state: Delhi. (a) whether DDA built hotel near D.D,A. have prepared mod;ficatioQs in Indraprastha Stadium, New Delhi has the Master PJan for Delhi with perspective remained unutilised so far; of the year 200 I i'1ler-alia to jmprove the capital's housing, movement on roads, (b) estimate of the loss suffered; decongestion of Walled City and redeve and lopment of Sadar Bazar wholesale market. Thes~ were published on 6-4-1985 (c) the time by which the hotel is inviting objections/su~geslions from the expected to start 1 public. THE MINISTER OF PARLIA"'IENT ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L, BHA Allotment of Accommodation to Ex-senice G:\T): (a) DDA started construction men on their Re-employmeot of a building known as the P1ayt!rs· bJock alongwith the Sports Complex in J, P. 3916 SHRI SOMNATH RATH: Estate, Subsequently DDA decided to "Viii the Minister of WORKS AND develop it into a Venu Hotel. This HOUSING be pJeased to state: building is not yet complete. (a) whether Government have decided (b) There is no loss in view of (a) to take into account the services of ex above. servicemen for the purpose of allotment of accommodation wten they are re. (c) After cOllaborator(s) are finally employed; selected. the Hotel would be completed and could start functioning. Negotiations with the collaborators are already in an (b) whether officials from State advance stage, Government services after joining a Central Government Department will get this benefit ; Decongestion of Old Delhi 3914. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD (c) whether it win be applicable in SINGH: \-Vill the Minister of WORKS case of special Pool Accommodation also; AND HOUSING be pleased to state : and \a) whether the Prime Minister has ( d) if so, how many quarters in each suggested formulation of a plan for type have been aHotted in Delhi under decongesting Old Delh i ; this category since January 1985 ? (b) if so. the ~teps proposed to be THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN taken to improve the Capital's roads and TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA to decongest Old Delhi; and GAT): (8) Orders already exist for taking into account the service of ex (c) whether there is any proposal to serv icemen for the purpose of general shift the whole sale market of Sadar pool accommodation when they are re Bazar elsewhere as a stop in the direction employed, subject to the conditions of decongestion ? specified in the orders. 1 73 Writt.en Answers SRAVANA 28, t 907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 74 (b) Continuous service rendered in (vii) training of personnel. the State Government is also counted for the purpose of allotment of general pool accommodation. The main strategy in 7th Plan (or raising the production and productivity of j~te and mesta consists of :- (c) Rules/orders for alJot01ent of accommodation in special pools controlled (i) accelerating the improved jutel by various Ministries/Departments are mesta production technology in issued by respective Ministries/Depart.. both irrigated and rainfed tract ; ments. (ii) large coverage of jute/mesta in the (d) Such statistics are not maintained multiple cropping sequence ; in this Ministry. (iii) timely provision of critical inputs Decline in Production of Sugarcane, for increasing productivity ; J ute and Mesta (iv) provision of adequate retting 3917. SHRI SOMNATH RATH: facility for improving the quality Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE of fibre. In order to achieve the AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be targetted produ~tion efforts of the pleased to state: State Governments are being supplemented through a Centrally Sponsored Scheme of Intensive (a) whether the production of sugar Jute,' Mesta Development Pro cane, jute and mesta declined during the gran1me which will continue last two years; and during the 7 th Plan period. (b) the steps taken to increase their production '] [Translation] Retrenchment of Class IV e,nployees THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE working on daily wages in AIR and DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. Doordarshan MENT(SHRICHANDULAL CHAND RAKAR) : (a) The production of 3918. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD sugarcane has declined but in the case of R A WAT: Will the Minister of INFOR Ju te and Mesta it bas not. MA TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to st:He : (b) In order to augment the sugar cane production in the country, the (a) whether Class IV employees work.. following strategy has been adopted :- ing on daily wages are being retrenched from service in AIR and Doordarsban (i) production and distribution of even though they have been working quality seed cane; continuously for more than 240 days in a year; (ii) expansion of area under irriga tion ; (b) if so, the reasons therefor; (iii). larger application of fertilisers: (c) whdher any action is being taken (iv) efficient management of fatoon against the officers responsible for remov crop; ing these empioyees; and (v) adoption of intensive plant pro (d) if so, the details thereof? tection measures; THE MINISTER OF ST ATE OF THE (vi) transfer of technology ; and MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND 1 7 S Wrlt,en AnswerJ AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 176 BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GAD- . Foreign Tour or Officials of NDDB GIL): (a_) and (b). Persons are engaged in Connection with Import of on daily wage in AIR and Doordarshan Cowe for specific items of work of causal nature. Therefore, when the work ceases 3920. SHRI KALI PRASAD PAN such persons are disbanded. According DEY: Will the Minister of AGRICUL to instructions issued by the Department TURE AND RU.RA L DEVELOPMENT of Personnel, persons engaged on daily b~ pleased to state: wage who had put to 240 days of work in a minimum spell of two years may be (a) whether it is a fact that some of considered for appointment as peons the officers of National Dairy Develop.. subject to their fulfilment of certain con ment Board went to Germany in CODDee ditions and availability of posts. AIR tion with the gift of 20000 Holstein had in fact regutarised six such persons Freisaio cows to India ,· since February, 1 985. (b) if so, what are the details of these officers and the amount spent on (c) and (d). Does Dot arise. them 1 [English] (c) whether tbey have since taken Information Regardillg SC and ST charge of these animals: Benefited under I'RD'P (d) if so, the 'details thereof : and 3919. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: Will the Minis(er of AGRI (e) when these cows are to arrive in CULTURE & RURAL DEvELOPMENT the country and where these are to be pleased to state : be kept? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (a) whether every month telegraphic DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE report indicating the number of Scheduled LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL Castes and Scheduled Tribes people CHANDRAKAR): (a) and (b). The benefited under Integrated R ural Develop National Dairy Development Board ment Programme is obtained from all the (NODS) deputed one of its Executive States; and Directors twice to Europe in connection with the proposed gift of cows to India. (b) if so, details thereof and th'! The amount spent by the NDDB on his reasons for obtaining such reports tele visits was approximately Rs. 1,15,988/-. graphically ? (c) to (e). No, Sir. The modalities of acceptance of the gift and other details THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE regarding tbe keeping of the cows after DEPARTMENT OF' RURAL DEVE. they arrive in India have not been LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL finaJised. CHANDRAKAR): (a) Yes, Sir. Telecast of E,y ucational Programmes (b) Information for every month regardtng the total beneficiaries coverej 3921. SHRI S.M. BHATTAM as well as SC and ST families, under Will the Minister of INFORMATION Integrated Rural Development Program. AND BROADCASTING be pleased me, is being obtained from all the to state: States/UTs. telegraphically by 7th of tbe succeeding month to transmit the same to ,(a) whether Government prGpose to Planning Commission for their monthly give more time for educational pro report on 20-Point Programme. grammes in Doordarsban ; and '1 77 Wrlttert ..4Iuw.,., SRAVANA ~8, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer& 178 (b) if so, the details thereof? (b) Andbra Pradesh,- Gujarat, Mahara- THB MINISTER OF STATE OF THE sbtra and Orissa - 4 5 minutes MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (for each Stjlte separately) BROADC \-STING (SHRI V.N. GAD. GIL): (a) and (b). Doordarshan are Educational programmes are telecast in . already paying sufficient attention to the tbe local language of the State • educational pro~rammes •. Delhi, Bombay, Srinagar and Madras Kendras of Door 3. Doordarsban are telecasting Area darshan are telecasting educational pro Specific Progr~mmes through INSAT for grammes for school going children. The each of .the six States namely, Andbra time devoted by different Kendras to .. Pradesh, Bihar, Gujarat, Mabarashtra, wards educational programmes on each Orissa and Uttar Pradesh. These pro day is as under :- grammes also carry the programmes OD adult education. A. DELHI (i) Educational - 80 minutes 4. University Grants Commision are Programme also utilising tbe services of DoordarsbaD for telecast of co mmon educational pro (ii) Scbool -160 minutes grammes throughout tbe country for two Proarammes hours daily on all working da ys~ B. BOMBAY 5. Since sufficient time .is aJread; being devoted for educational programmes, School Programmes· -160 minutes it is not considered necessary to increase the telecast time of the educational pro C. SlUNAGAR grammes (pr the time being. Educational Pro- __... 80 minutes grammes 'Sale of controlled cloth .by coope_ rative Societies MADRAS D~ 3922. SHRI SHANT! DHARIWAL: SHRI VISHNU MODI Educational Pro~ - 40 minutes gramnles Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pJeased to state : While the school programmes conform to tbe syllabus of local. schools, the edu (a) whether Government make COD cational programmes are in the nature troUed cloth available to cooperative so of general enrichment programmes and cieties for sale ; are not based on the curriculum. (b) if so, whether it is a fact that co. 2. Besides the above .Kendras, edu operative societ.ies instead of selling tbis cational programmes are being teleJ;ast control cloth to poor people sell it in in 8 States through INSAT-IB i.e. in black ,market ; Andhra Pradesb, Dibar, Gujarat, Madbya Pradesh, ~harashtra, Orissa, Rajasthan (c) if so, whether Government's atten and Uttar Pradesh. Time devoted for tion bas been drawn to the news item each State for the educational prOgrammes appearing in the "Jansatta" dated 22 is liven below :- July, 1985 under the caption uSabakari Samitiyon Ne Control K.a Kapra Black (a). Bihar, Madhya Pra- MeiD Deeha" ; desh, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesb -45 minutes (d) jf so, the concre~c steps taken by . (common programme) Government in the matter and the .ction 179 Written Answers t AUGUST 19 985 Writt~n A.nswer, 180 taken against such cooperative societies people for getting controlled cloth with so far; and out any difficulty. The State Govern ments/U.T. Administrations are taking (e) if nO ..action has been taken, 'the necessary. steps to implement. the sug- , reasons therefor ? gestlons. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND With regard to part ( c) of tbe Ques CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA. tion, it may be mentioned that the daily SINGH): (a) to (e). The controlled "JANSA TTA" Date(\ 22nd July, 1985 cloth produced by the mill sectOr (Na contains a news-item under tbe caption tional Textile Cooperation MiJls) is main. c'Sahkari Samitiyon Ne Control Ka Kapra ly distributed through State Federations, Black Mein Becha" The news item Cooperative Soc ieties, Fair Price Shops refers to the Cooperative societies in as authorised by State/Union Territory Morena (Madhya Pradesh). As.' such authorities, with- NCCF at national level. the State Governrpent of Madhya Pradesh It is general1y observed that owing to has been requested to enquire into the faulty distribution system, there is some matter and take appropriate action. deviation of controlled cloth to unautho rised chanels. Therefore, the Deptt. of Coopera~ive Sugar Factories in Orissa Civil Supplies have addre~sed all the StatesjU Ts. to take necessary corrective 3923. SHRIMATI JAY.ANTI PAT measures to streamI ine the pattern of NAIK:. Will the Minister of AGRI of distribution of ccntrolled cloth. A CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP plan of ac~ion has been suggested to the MENT be pleased to state : States, that handling of controJled cloth by the state agencies should be closely (a) the number of co-operative sugar monitored by the State's Civil Supplies factories set up in the Srate of Orissa Secretary to avoid delay in taking delivery so tar; of consignment by the agency handling controll ed cloth. On receipt of controJl (h) the locations of those cooperative ed cloth by the District Wholesale sugar fact ories ; Agency. the Dy. Commissioner""Co1Jector and the District Supply Offier should im mediately be informed of the receipt of (c) how many of those cooperative total quantity received and it should be sugar factories have been getting assistance tbe responsibility of the Deputy· Com from the National Cooperative Develop mission/Collector with the assistance of the ment Corporation; District Supply Officer and Deputy/ Asstt. Registrar of Coopera tive Societies, to (d) the details of Central assistance indicate the distribution of controJIed and assistance from National Cooperative cloth in urban and rura1 areas within hi~ Development Corporation given to those jurisdictioD. All CODsumer Cooperative cooperative sugar factories . during last stores as we)) as other agencies dealing' three years ; and with controlled cloth should display the stock position of controlled cloth received (e) the details thereof? sold etc. A system of physical verifica tion of .the stock held by each whole saler Iretailer should be introduced and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the ;etailers .should maintain a register DEPARTMENT OF AQRICULTURE showing arrival of stock. its quantity AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT fSHRI . (variety-wise) etc. It has also been CHt\NDUlAL CHANDRAKAR) : "(a) suggested that the number of retail Gut Out of the four Cooperative Sugar Fac . lets of the controHed cloth both in urban tories Licensed so far in Orissa. two' fac and rural ~neas should te increased so tories ate in production and the ren)ai D . as to provide proper facilities to the ing'two under installation •. 1.81 Written Answers SRAVANA 28. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 1 82 (b) The Cooperative Sugar Factories ,'-b) N 0, S·Ir. in production are at Aska (Ganjarn dis. trict) and Bargarh (Sambalpur District) ; D.D.A. Advertisements and those under installation are at Naya. garh (Puri district) and Baramba (Cuttack 3925. SHRI RANJIT SINGH district). GAEKWAD: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to (c) All the four Cooperative Sugar state : Factories in the State have received assis tance from tbe National Cooperative De (a) the total amount Delhi Develop.. velopment Corporation (NCDC). ment 'Authority spent during the last two years on newspaper and other advertise (d) and (e). Central assistance is ments; provided to National Cooperat ive Deve lopment Corporation for the programme of cooperative sugar factories in the (b) total sum spent on informing country. NCDC release assistance to in allottees of fiats/plots about their allot.. dividual factories. During the last three ments;· and- years, the following cooperative sugar factories have been provided assistance as ( c) sum speot to inform allottees detailed below : about tbe delay and causes of delay in allotment through advertisements '1 (Rs. in Lakhs) THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN . 1. Bargarh 91.50 TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA 2. Nayagarh 40.00 GAT): (a) Rupees 104.30 lakhs (dur 3. Baramba 30.00 ing 1983-84 and 1984-85). Increase in rate of Gratuity due to ran (b) Rupees 8.1 0 Lakhs•. in value of Rupee (C) Rupees 0.02 Lakbs. 3924. SHRIMATI KISHORI SIN . HA: Will tbe Minister of LABOUR Setting up or a Commercial Service be pleased to state :. for the Gul!" Countries (a) whether Government have any 3926. SHRI O.G. SWELL: Will proposal to increase the amount of the Minister of INFORMATION AND gratuity in view of the serious fall in value BROADCASTING be pleased to state : of the rupee since the last gratuity rate was fixed; (a) whether All India Radio is setting (b) if not, tbe manner in. which up a commercial service for tbe Gulf workers would be compensated for this countries; fall; and (b) whether it is a fact tbat our pre (c) whether other retirement benefits sent AIR External Services are so weak would also be added to gratuity to en as to be useless; and courage workers to leave their jobs early ? (c) the ki lowatt strength of our pre. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE sent transmitters for external servicCs ? MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) and (b). There is at THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB present no proposal either to increase the MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND amount or. to com pen sa te the workers in BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD any other way for fall· in the value of . GIL): (a) In its draft 7th Plan pro posals, AIR baS included a scheme to rupee. 183 Written Ans.~ AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 184 set up· 2 X 250 KW SW transmitter, t)niversities in the country a,nd 38 Ro studio etc. at Panaji (Goa) for· cammer search Institutes/Research Dit:cctoratQS 'cial service to Qulf countrie.s. Imple. devoted to agricultural research in the mentation of the scheme wi)) depend on country,' as well as seve,raJ Research the tiDal allOcation of funds. Experiment Stations JSub-stations of the&e universities/institutes. The regional re. (b) No, Sir. 10 some fa rget areas search capabilit~s of tile aaricultural the signals may not have the desired universities are being further developed strength of audibility due to factors jike through the National Agricultural Ro relative lower power of our trans search Project of' the Indian C01lllciJ of miuers and interference from other more Agricultural Research. po~errul transmitters. Number of Factories Closed 00 1.1.1983 (c) AIR in its network has a mix of an.d 1.1.1985 and Workers Rendered 20 KW, 50 K\V, 100 KW an.d 250 KW Jobless SW transmitters for broaJ~sts over the ex terna) services. 3928. SHRI NARAYAN CHOUBEY : WiU the Minister of LABOUR be plea~ed Transfer of Agricultural Work to Colleges to state: and Universities ' (a) number of registered un-employed 3927. SHRI SATYENDRA NARA in the c<;,untry, State'_wise as on 1 YAN .SINHA: Will the Minister of January, 1983 and 1 Janua~Yt 198,5; AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVE. LOPMENT be pleased to ,state: (b) number of factories closed as on January, 1 983 and number of workers (a) whether there are any proposals rendered unemployed due to this; to transfer extension work to agricultural colleges and universities; (c) how many of the factories are c10sed down due to lockouts, lay offs clo (b) if not, whe:her the extension staff sures and strikes; and of the colleges and universities would be as~ociated 'with Government extension (d) how many workers jobless due t~ acti vities; and (1) lockouts, closures and lay offs and (2) how many due to strikes ? (c) whether research in the right type of. delivery systems for agricultural techno THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE logies is being carried out in any of these MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T, institutions, if so, details thereof 1 ANJIAH): (a) Information regarding number of applicants on the Live Register THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE of Employment Exchanges as on DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE 31.12.1982 and 31.12.1984 is given LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL in the Statement below. CHANDRAKAR): (a) No, Sir. (b) Not formally. However, the (b) ano (c). Labour Bureau collects extension staff of the .Agricultural Uni .. information OD closures due· to reasons, versities/Colleges do work in collaboration other than industri~l disputes, such, as with the extension staff of the State De- financial stringencies, shortage of power t partmen:s of Agrjculture, wherever .. shortage of raw-material, machinery necessary break-down, lack of demand etc. Accor ding to aV9.ilable informat ion, tbe number . (c) The right type of appJied research of industrial closures was 286 in 1982 is being carried out' in Agricultural Uni and 188 to 1984. versities as wen as in ICAR Research Institutes. There are 22 Agricultural (d) While there can be no loss of em- . 1 8 S Written Answers SRAVAN~ 2,8. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer., 1 86 ployment due to strikes, lockouts and'lay to strikes, 2.14 Jakh workers dueT to offs, according to information received lockouts, 0.72 lakb workers duel'to in the Labour Bureau, during 1984, c10sures and 1,.41 lakb workers due,:.,. to 17.12 lakb workers were affected ,.due lay-offs. Statement , . No. of applicants on the live register of the Employment Exchanges as on 31.1 2.1 982 and 31.12.1984 Sl. Name of the States! Number of applicant registered No. Union Territories with Employment Exchanges (in 000) ----.....------as on 13.12.82 as on 31.12.84 1 2 3 4 1. Andbra Pradesh 1764.8 2172.8 2. Assam 399.9 487.1 3. Bihar 2556.3 2668.5 4. Gujarat 580.2 631.8 5. Haryana 446.8 467.6 6. Himacbal Pradesh 169.0 257.6 7. Jammu & Kashmir 61.7 66.7 8. Karnataka 684.4 770.0 9. Kerala 2029.6 2529.1 tl15.4 10. Madhya Pradesh 913.0 11. Maharasb tra 1551.3 2100.4 186.0 12. Manipur 149.1 11.9 13. MegbaJaya 9.8 14. Nagaland 8.6 13.8 IS. Orissa 481.8 559.4 526.2 16. Punjab 505.5 17. Rajasthan 404.2 5~4.7 18_ 8ikkim t 706.5 19. Tamil N:adu 1392.0 ¥- 92.1 20. Tripura 79.1 1873.2 21. Uttar Pradesh 1-610.4 4124.2 ,22_ West Bengal 3438.2 11.7 23. Andaman & Nicobar 12.1 187 ' Written Answer8 AUGU~T 19. 1985 W,itt~n Answers 188 1 2 3 4 24. Arunachal Pradesh * * 25. Chandigarb 75.4 88.3 26. Dadra & Ngr. Ha veli ** ** 27. Delhi 328.7 .451.2 28. Goa, Daman & Diu 33.0 43.0 29. Lakshdweep 5.3 6.3 30. Mizoram 14.0 16.7 31. Pondicherry 48.6 64.0 -_------__._ Total 19753.0 23546.8 (*) No Employment Exchange is functioning in the State/Union Territory. (**) One' Employment Exchange is functiooing but data are not beeing received. NB: Totals may not necessarily tally due to rounding of figures. Source: Directorate General of Employment and Training ~1inistry' of Labour. Development of Small and Medium Towns by the Centre, or was there any shortfall; of West Bengal and 3929. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: (c) whether consideration will be given WiJJ the, Minister of WORKS AND to the State Government's request that HO,USING be pleased to state: such Central loan assistance be converted into grants in view of. the steep rise in (a) whether 20 towns of West Bengal, construction costs ? including Basirbat, were included in the Integrated Development of small and TIlE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN Medium Towns (IDSMT) Programme TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA during the Si~ th Five Year Plan; GA T): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) if so, whether loan assistance (b) The Central assistance released to of Rs. 40 lakhs for each town was given each town is given below :- (Rs. in lakhs) 1. Kharagpur 48.3L (*) 2. Midnapore 14.30 3. Bankura 21.00 4. Kalimpong 23.21 S. Coochbehar 48.26 (*) 6. Purulia 17.51 7. English Bazar 35.34 (*) Includes realease made for Low cost Sanitation Schemes. 1 89 Writttn Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 190 (Rs. in lakhs) 8. Krishna Nagar 28.03 9. Suri 28.19 10. Tarkeshwar !6.62 11. Jalpaiguri 16.85 12. Siliguri 13.80 13. Darjleling 26.19 14. Berhampur 24.02 15. Bal1urghat 35.32 16. Bishnupur 28.83 17. Basirhat 17.33 18. Raiganj 38.13 19. Ranaghat 19.47 20. Katwa 22.56 Total . 525.32 (c) There is no proposal by the Central have been revised from time to time Government to consider providing grants during the 1ast 15 years. The pay scales . in . place of loans under the Scheme. of the regular employees of the Corpora tion were last revised in 1 973 . The Revision of Wages of FeI Workers question of their pay revision which is linked to switch over to Industrial D .A. 3930. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: pattern is sub. judice. Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: Assistance to Housing Cooperative (a) whether it is a fact that wages of Apex Societies in States workers Of FOod Corporati.on of India have not been revised during the last 3931. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: 15 years; Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: (b) whether Government are aware of the discontent among Food Corpora (a) the pattern of central assistance tion of India workers on this account; to Housing Cooperative Apex Societies in and tbe States; (c) jf so, steps being taken in the (b) whether the Apex bodies are matter? hampered by their inability to receive enough financial assistance from 'he THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND financial institutions; and CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) to (c). The wages of the workers of Food Corporation of . (C) details of perform::tnce of the Apex India working at ports and in -depots Housing Cooperatives State-\\; ise ? 191 Wrlttm Answers 'AUGUST 19, 1985 Written A.nswers' 192 THB MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN.. HUDCO suffers due to financial cons TARY AFFAIRS "(SHRI H.K.L. BHA traints. LIC also, despito severe cons GAT): (a> and .(b). The State level traints on its resources, bas been trying to Apex Housing Cooperative Federation~ get increase tbe disbursement of its funds to financial assistance from various central ,hese societies. financial institutions viz. Life Insurance Corporation (LIe), Housing and Urban (c) A statement showing loaning ope Develop~Dt Corporation (HUDCO) and rations and bou&e construction activities cooperative banks. No. housing scheme of these societies in various States/UTs submitted by cooperative sector to (as on 30-6-84) is given below. 1 93 . Written Answer.t SRAVANA 28. 1907 (SAKA) V\ ~ 00 .... 00 0\ \0 N 0\ 0 C"f") ~ C"f")N\ONO\O\ 0\ 00 0\0 _ ...... , 00 0\ 0 \C " "'" 00 '¢' .... - Q Ct') 0\ tn. c::> \0 00 '" \0 0\ .... 0\ 0\0 0 t'f'\ ~ ~ \0 .... 00 o - 0 co ~.'" ,... I r- ~ r-o\-NI'--O for) f"I')r-O\r- -n _r--- r--- V\ .. 00 N 0\ ""NO\""IitCO~V") ~ C"f") 0 -N ~ .... -n "'I:t .... - N r--- .~ -~ 0\ N 0\ C"f") 00 \0 • N \0 o 0 '" .... M -n ~ N 00 -n N CIO ~ ~ 0 N ~ N -n .... O\N C"f")~r-CIO 00 - -n -n -n 0 I' I' 00 -nC"f") ~Q\ r- "'I:t \C)OC"f")"";N_ ~-n~f'f\f'f\_ M O\O\~'-.:t .... -C"f")NI'.... \I") 0 r- .... N~OOOO'-.:t -V')ON"'IIf"Or M 0. ~ 0\. • NO~ .... C"f") \0 0 O. r- r-- 0 'D V\ 0\ r- r 0\...... c N N· 00 '-.:t .... .,.;' o· 0 0 r \00\0\0 I' " r- r- C"f") N \OO-O'DC"f")~ r- r- - "'I:t - NenNen 0\ '" 10 . _ N . . C"f"). 00· 0\. ;Sz• 0 0\ 0______N ~. tn· v:: ...r--.. --1'10 19 S 'Written Answers AUGUST. 19, 1985 Writt~n Answers 196 Transmission Capa~ity of AkashwaDi, jbumming cultivation prevalent in the hill ImpbaJ areas of the North-Eastern Regions ; 3932. SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH: (b) if so, the findings and the pro PROF. MEIJINLUNG posed remedial measures; KAMSON: (c) whether the I.C.A.R. u~its in Will the Minister of INFORMATION Impha) and other State capitals in the AND BROADCASTING be pleased to regions have failed to create any impact state : of their existence in this regard; and .(a) the steps taken to enhance the transmission capacity of the Akashwani, , (d) jf so, reasons therefor '1 Imphal; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) whether the 50 KW transmitter DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE for Akashwani, Impbal is bardly pressed LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL into service to fun capacity for some CHANDRAKAR): (a) 'Yes, Sir. reasons or the other; and (b) Alternative farming systems to (c) if so, the reasons therefor '} replace jhumming have been developed. The model Jand use suggested as an alter':' THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE native to jhum has about 1/3rd area· MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND towards the foothills under bench terrac BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD ing for agricultural crops, middle 1/3 rd GIL): (a) In its draft proposals for area under horti-pactoral crops and top tbe 7th Plan, AIR bas included a scheme 1/3rd of the slope under forest cover. to set up a 50 KW SW transmitter in addition to the existing 50 KW MW transmitter at Imphal. The implementa (c). No, Sir. Varieties of improved tion will depend upon the availability of field crops vegetables and horticultural funds __ crops have been i"entified. Package of practices from optimum production have been deve1oped. Efficient management (b) and (c). 50 KW MW transmitter at ]mpbal is operated on full capacity system for livestock and fisheries produc depending upon the availability of power tion have been studied and formulated. Through Lab to Land, National Demons supply. However, durin~ the last few years, there have been frequent power trations. Krishi Vigyan Kendras and Teachers' Training Centres, the proven supply interruptions. On such occasions, technologies have been disseminated to programmes are relayed on a stand-by 1 KW MW transmitter run on Diesel the State Governments as well as the Generator supply. AIR stations are farming community of this region. dependent on the local State Electricity authorities for uninterrupted pOwer (d) Question 'does not arise. supply. Benefit to Women under Rural . Jhumming Cultivation in North-Eastern Development Programmes Regions ,3934. SHRIMATI BASAW RAJES 3933. SHRI N. TOM~I SINGH: WARI' WiJI the Minister of AGRICUL. WIll the Minister of AGRICULTURE TURE AND RULAL DEVEI.:.OPMENT AND R~RAL DEVELOPMENT be be pleased to sttfte : pleased to state : (a) whether there is any proposal (a) whether the I.C.A.R. had made during 1st year of the Seventh Plan that a study J' of the ruinous effects of the more number of rural women be benefited 1 97 Written Answers SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Written Answer. 198 under various schemes like IRDP, NREP, programme from 511 blocks of 70 RLEGP and TRYSEM; . and districts in 1984-85 to 615 blocks of 88 districts from 1 985-86 as recom. (b) if so, the details of the schemes mended by ,the Inter Departmental Group. v- bich would benefit the rural women However, as the Central share provision under the above schemes ? has come down from Rs. 40 crores in 1984.85 to Rs. 37 crores in 1985-86, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the total allocated per block has got DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE reduced from Rs. 15 lakhs in 1984-85 LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL to, Rs. 12 lakhs in 1985-86 in view of CHANDRAKAR): tal and (b). Under the increased coverage. The final pictur~ Integrated Rural Development Programme would emege after the VIIth plan is a target. to cover 20% women was set finalised. from· 1985-~6 oBward which is now being revised upward to 30%. Allotment of Residential Accommodatioo to the Employees of DWSSDU (Trans/ation] Expenditure on Drought Prone Area 3936. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS· Programme ING be pleased to state: 3935. SHRI HARISH RAWAT: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (a) the criteria being adopted for tho AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be allotment of residential" accommodation to pleased to state : the employees of Delhi Water Supply and Sewage Disposal Undertaking; (a) the total amount proposed to be spent tinder the Drought Prone Area (b) whether Government are awaro Programme during the year 1985-86 ; that residential accommodation bas not been allotted to these emplo)lees who have been. serving for the last 10-1S (b) whether the Planning Commission years while the employees with 2.3 years has suggested reduction in the amount have been allotted such accommodation; asked for ~y the Ministry under this and head; . (e, if so, the number of such cues (c) if so, whether this reduction will and the action Government propose to affect some of those development Blocks take against those officen responsiblo fOl which have been recommended by working these irregularities ~ group for inclusion in this programme ; and THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT AR Y AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA (d) if so, the names of the areas out GAT): (a) According to tbe Delhi of those recommended by the working Municipal Corporation: group which are not likely to be included under this programme ? 1. Strictly on seniority basis to tho general staff subject to certain THE MINISTER OF STATB IN THE exceptions w~e allotments have DEPARTMBNT OF RURAL DEVE been made out.oi... turn OD the LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL followinl basis : CHANDRAKAR): (a) to (d). The total amount allocated under the Drought (i) On medical arounds. Prone Areas Programme for 1 985.86 is Rs. 73.9 crares, of which Rs. 37 crores (ii) Quota apinst SC/ST/disablcd will be the Central Share. GovernIDCnt periODS. bas already approved tbe extension of tho (iii) CompassioDate aroua"'. 199 Written Answers AUGUST 19,1985 Written Answers 200 2. On essential duty basis to the (b l Thirty five of them have 'workc,d staff working at Plants and other for more than to years in short spells in Installations. each year. (b) There is an acute' shortage of (c) Six from 1966 onwards, one quarters and staff has to wait long. from 1967, eleven from 1968, one HDwever. an employee, who is working at from 1969, sixteen from 1971. a Plant and whose stay in the Plant is considered essential, gets allotment of the (en to (g) . Requests have been quarter prior to tbe general staff received for appointing the casual arid tbe staff working on dis tribution labour~rs on regular basis. The regular side. appointment of eligible casual labourers will be considered as and when regular (c) There is no such case where the posts' become avaitable therefor.. in allotment has not been made on regular accordance with the rules on the subject. basis. Production of soyabeao ond extraction of oil [E~ljjh] Casual labours in CPCRI, Trifandrum 3938. SHRI fv10HANBIIAI PATEL Will the Minister t"lf AGRICULTURE 3931. SHRl T. BASHEER,: Will AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be tbe Minister of AGRICULTURE AND pleased to state : RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: (a) the quantity of soyabean pro duced in the country during the last (a) the'Dumber of casual labours in three years, year-wise; the CPCRI farm Palode, Trivandrum ; (b) the quantity of oil extracted from soyabean during the sa me period ; (b) pow many of them have had ietvice of more then 10 years in the farm; (c) how this oil is being utilized and ( c) the details thereof ; (d) the steps being taken to produce more soyabean in the country to meet td) whether it is a 'fact tbat request the increasing demand of edible .oj) in' fram the casual \\01 kefS to the authorities the country ? to regularise the service is pcndiag for years; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL (~) if so, the reasons for not regu .. D~VELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL larising them ; CHANDRAKAR) (a) and (b,. Quantity of soyabean produced in the (f) whether Government have received country during the last three years is any memorandum regarding this; and as below: Year Production (Iakh tonnes) (g) if so, steps Government. have taken in this regard 1 1982-83 4.9 1983-84 5.<> 19S4-85 9.3 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (Provisional) THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT ,SHRI CH~NDULI-\L The quanti,y of oil extracted from CHANDRAKAR) (a) Thirty six, soyabekD roughly averages around 15 Sir. to 18o/c, or tDtal ~ced production. 201 Written Answers SRAVANA "28, t 907 (SAKA) Written Answer, 202 (c) A Jarwe proportion of soyabean (c) According to the terme of oil ,is utilised for .direct consumption tenders, the stocks are issued to euccessful while. a small quantity goes for manu tenders from the Corporation of India's facture of VanaspatL depots. After the delivery of stOCKS, tbe the tran5poreation is the responsibility of the tenderers. The question of (d) Soya bean production has been transporting the same through authorised given high priority in the National contractors of the Food Corporation of Oilseeds Development Project which is India dOes not arise. being implemented since 1984-85 with a view to accelerating the production. Accordingly, a special project on soya bean Proposal from Maharashtra to set up is in operation under the National new sugar mitis in Seventh plan Oilseeds Development Project in the Sfate~ of-'Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan. Besides, Intensive Oilseeds 3940. SHRI MURLIDHAR MANE: Development Programme covering Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL soyabean is also in operation in the SUPPLIES be pleased to state: States of Bihar, Himachal Pradesh, Maharashtra and Gujarat, where potentialitjes for cultivation of this crop (a) whether Government have received exist. any proposal from tbe Maharashtra Government regarding establishment of 51 new sugar factories in the State during the Seventh Plan period ; and News item "Traders SbUD FeI tenders" .( b) if so, whether tbe proposal bas 3939. SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: been cleared by the Central Government Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL and if not, tbe reasons thereof? SUPPLIES be pleased to refcr to the news item "Traders shun FCI tenders" THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND appearing in Bus~ness Standard dated 2S CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA July, 1985 to state: SINGH): (a) No, Sir. (a) 'whether the sugar traders of Calcutta have boycotted tenders floated (b) Does not arise. by the Food Corporation of India ; [Translation] (b) if so, the details thereof; and Installation of a statue of late Dr. Rajendra Prasad in Delhi. (c) the reasons why sugar is not transported to successful bidders through 3941. _SHRI KRISHNA PRATAP the authorised co~tractors of F.e.!. ? SINGH: Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: THE ~1INISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (a) whether Government propose to SINGH): ta). and tb). Food' Cor instal a statue of the first President of poration of India is arranging the salc India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, at some of imported sugar through auctions! suitable place in Delhi; tenders in the State of West Bengal. No report of any such boyeot of tenders by the sugar traders of Calcutta bas been (b) if so, location and time by which received by the Corporation. the statue will be' installed; and 203 Written Answers AUGUST 19,1935 Written ""$W~t4 204 .. (c) if not, the reasons therefor '1 . (a) whether Government ar.., aware that tllany people in rural area and parti THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT- cularly in Adivasi area are without ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L .. shelter; BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) whether any survey bas been made (b) The matter is under consideration to find out such persons, if so, when the of the Government. survey was conducted and what are the findings; and (c) Does not arise. (c) what measures are being taken to provi de the basic amenity of shelter [l:.)lglish] to each and' every citizen of the Installation of New Stations of AI.R. country? 3942. SHRI K. PRADHANI : Will THE MINISTER OF P ARLIAMEN the Minister of INFORMATION AND TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K L. BHA.. BROADCASTING be pleased to state: GAT): (a) and (b). During tbe decen. nial census, information is collected on (a) whether Government have, select- houseJess persons i.e. those who are ed some places for the commlsslonlOg of generaHy found on the road side, pave new stations of AU India Radio in ments, in humepipes, under staircases, or in th~ open, temples, mandaps, platforms 1985 .. 1986; and tbe like. (b) if so, the names of the places As per 1981 census, there were indcntified ; 1,724,1 11 houseless persons in rura1 and Adivasi areas, excluding the populat ion (c) whether some places have been of Assam and areas under unlawful occu indentified in Orissa; and pation of Pakistan and China where cen sus could not be held. (d)' jf so, the details th.er~of '1 (c) Housing is a State subjec:;t and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE tht>re are two schemes primarily mean t MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND for poorer sections of tbe society 8S BROADCASTING ('~HRI V.N. GAD follows' :- GIL): (a) and (b). New radio stations under construction at Almora (U.P.), . (i) alJo.tment of rural bouse sites and Itanagar (A.runachal Pradesh" Sholapur provision of construction assis (Mabarashtra). Adilabad (Andbra tance,. and Pradesh) and Kota (Rajasthan) are likely (ii) building houses for EcoDomicaJly to be ready during 1985-86. Weaker Sections of tbe Society in Urban areas. (c) and (d). A scheme to set up a local radio station witb 1 kw mw tral'S Rise in Price of Sugar io the Capital . mitter , studios, receiving facilities.' and staff quarters at Keonjhar in Orissa, was In- 3944. SHRI BANWARI LAL PU cluded in the approved 6th Plan. The ROHIT: Will tbe Minister of FOOD building works are presently in progress. AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased The station is ex~cted to be commission to state: ed during 1986-87. (a) whether Government are aware that tbe frcc sale price of sugar in tbe Provision of Shelter to Everybod, io capital is likely to touch an all timo biab the Country of Rs. 9 per tl. ; 3943. SHRI AMARSINH RA- ( b) whether the Indian Federation of THAWA Will tbe Minister of WORKS Consumer Organisation has blamed his AND HOUSING be pleased to state : Ministry for the spurt in sugar prices ; 205 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) W,.itten Answer8 206 (c) if so, the reasons for not taking (c) if so, the details thereof and the jmrnediat ~ steps inspite of facts known to other measures Government propose to his Ministry about fall in production of take in this regard? sugar; and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE .( d) the steps contemplated by Govern MTNISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ment ·to· meet the shortage? ANJIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MIN~STER OF FOOD AND (b) and (c). The question of remov CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA ing the loopholes in the existing legal and SINGH): (a) The retail price of free renal provisions of the E.S.!. Act .. the sale Sl11!ar in Delhi which bad touched Employees Provident Funds and Mis Rs. 8.30 per kg. in the 1 st week of cellaneous Provisions Act and the Pay August. has came down to Rs. 7.50 per ment of Gratuity Act and providing for kg. as on 14-8-t 985. more stringent penalties for violation of the provisions of these Acts has been (b) A report to th is effect published engaging the attention of the Government. in a newspaper has come to the notice The details of th~ proposals are, how of the Government. ever, yet to be -finalised. (c) and Cd). In order to augment News Captioned "Better Films on the availability of indigenous sugar, TV Planned" Government decided to import 10 lakh tonnes of sugar and arrange its distribu tion at prices below Rs. 5,80 per kg. )946. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA : threugh State Government agencies and Will the Minister of INFOR MATION also its sale to licensed dealers by auction AND BROADCASTING be pleased @Rs. 5.50 per kg. in loose. and tender to state: through the Food Corporation of India. Apart from this. adequate releases of free (a) wheth~r tt.e attention of Govern sale and levy sugar have been made. In ment has heen drawn to the news iten:t Delhi imported sugar is being sold "Better Films on TV planned·' apf'earing Rs. 5.65 per kg. (in poly' pack) in Times of Tndia dated t 1 July. 1985 ; through the Super Bazar, Delhi State Civil Supplies Corporation, Kendriya (b) if ~O. the number of episodes of Bhandar and other retail out lets .and each serial running on Television; mobile Vans. Delhi Administration is also ensuring the supply of levy sugar through all fair !)rice shops. (c) the charges for each of the eni. sodes of each serial ; and Violation of PF~ ·Gratuity and Em ployees Insurance Rules by Indus (d) the c<,stg of dispJayinll a natak or trial Employers chitrahar or a fC'lreign serial of the same duration? 3945. SHRI BANWARI LAL PU ROHIT : Win the Minister of LABOUR THE MfNfSTFR OF STATE OF THE be pleased to state: MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD. (a) whether Government are aware GIL) (a) Yes, Sir. that several industrial employers in the country are violating provident fund, (b) and (c). Statement I is given gratuity and employees insurance rules; below. (b) whether there is a proposal under (d) The rate card for sponsorship of the consideration of Government to aring programmes on Doordarshan is f ,':\'en in suitable legislation .in this regard; and the Statement II below. 107 W,itten Am'w~s AUGUST 19, 1985 W,ilten Answlrs . 20a Statement-I 51. Title of the No. of Sponsorshjp No. Progrunme Programmes fee charged approved, ,-' by Doordarshan (pe' episode) Rs. 1. Ados Pados 26 35.000 2. Kbandan 52 35,000 3. Hum Log 156 35,000 4. Rajni 26 35,00.0 5" Darpan 18 35,000 6. Natkbat Narad 13 35,000 7. Barrister Vinod 13 35,000 8. aibi Natiyon Wali 13 1,60,000 9. Yeh Jo Hai Zindagi 52 35.090 10. Basanti 8 35,000 1.1. Bawaji Ka Baiscope 13 35,009 12. Mr. Ya Mrs. 13 35.000 13. Pay jng Guest 26 35,000 14. Wah Janab 13 35,000- 15. Dante Bigadte 13 35,000 16. Star, Trek 13 1,00.000 17. Terry & June 13 60,000 18. Survival 17 1,00,000 19. Quiz Time 36 35,000 209 Writtelf A.1Uwers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SA.KA) Written Answer. 21 0 000 0 0 o 000 0 0 o 0 .. 0 0 <:> 0 o 't'\ 0" 0 0" 0" o NO\OVN ...... "' ...... 00<:> 0 <:> o o o o 0 0 0 0 o o o o""o~\O o o V\ or-: ~.. ~..; . ... r---" ... It'\ ~ o 0 0 0 0 o o 0 0 0 <:> o 0.... '1").. 0.. o. \0 "".. O...... ~~..; C" o 0 0 o o o o 0 0 o o o o ~ o. o. o o \I)" "'If" N .,.. ~.. ri.... o 0 0 o 0 o 0 0 o o o 0 ... 0., \0 ~ 0 o o o .. N 0 .. o • .,., ~ <:> 0\" . \0 C")• N N \0 "'If" ....N o o o '\1:)'" ...... 211 Written Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 212 [Translation] been depr ived of ownership right in many Implementation of Land Ceiling Act villages; and 3947. SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA: (b) whether Government· propose to Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE co~stitllte a Committee to inquire into AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be the above circumstances so that the land pleased to sta tc : grabbed illegally or due to lacuna in the laws could be taken back and if Dot, the (a) whether it is a fact that due to reasons therefore ? some lacuna in or misinterpretation of Land Ceiling Act, the objectives of this THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Act have not been achieved in many States DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE as big farmers. ex-rulers and landlords LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL have grabbed lands as a result of which CHANDRAKAR): (a) and (b). Table the small and marginal farmers and Sche below preser.ts the operational holdings duled Castes and Scheduled Tribes people structure in 1 970-71 and 1 980.81 as it who are the attual tillers of land have has emerged from th~ Agriculture Census. . Category & ~ize of No of operational Area operated tbe holdings holdings (Million) t million hectares) 1970-71 1980.81 1970-71 1980-81 (i) Marginal 36.20 50.52 14.56 19.80 (below one ba) (50%) (56.5%) (9~~) .....(1" 20/)/0 (ii) Small (1-2 hal 13'43 16.08 19.28 22.96 (18.90/0 ) (18.0% ) (11.9%) (14.1 ~~) Total (i) & (ii) 49.63 66.60 33.84 42.76 upto 2 hectares. (68.9%) (74.5%) (20. t.I%) (26.3%> Large (10 ha. & 2.77 2.15 50.06 37.13 above) (3,9%) (2.4~~) (30. 9~"~) ('",,-. ') go10 ') Thus tbe number of holdings uptO municated to the States for taking nec~s 2 ba. have increas..:d from 49.63 fI.lillions sary action :- to 66.6 millions and area operated by them has increased from 33.84 million (a) The implementation of existing hectares to 42.76 million hectares While ceiJing laws, pre-revi~ed and re the number of large holdings has come vi"ed both should be monitored down from 2.77 million to 2.15 million vigorously by the :. tates UTs. but the area operated under them ha3 come down from 50.0 i) million hectares (b) An an:-,lysis of the gaps between to 37. 1 3 millions hectares. Thus there the estiil1utcd surplus and declared has been a re-distribudon of holdings in surplus. between declared surplus favour of small and marginal holders. and area taken possession of and between area taken po~se~sion of There is no proposal to constitute a and area distributed requires to be con.mittee as the ma'ler is !!etting re done for taking remedlal action. viewed through periodical conferences of State Revenve Ministers and Secretarks. (c) Disposal of returns, cases pending The implemen ation of land ceiling laws in various courts, including the was discussed in a recent conference of remanded and re-opened oneS, State Revenue M inisters ~nd the followi ')g taken pos7es~ion of area, decl re i consensus which emerged has been com- surplus and its distribution foJ· 2~ 3 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, t 907 (SAKA) Written AnJW(!I"s 214 lowed by prompt mutations, issue nal guidelines for giving to each of certificates, pattas, physical of major sons and entitlement to (j) Lowering of the ceiling limit and (a) whether all vegetable oil (com inclusion of major sons in the mercial imports or gifts) is being distri. definition of the family may be buted and released to States/Union considered by the States. The tcrritories by the Centre and if not, the major sons may be taken as reasons thereof (Business Standard dated members of the family for the 28 June, 1985); computation of the ceiling of land holdings of their parents as 00 (b) whether any quality check is beiDa 24.1. t 971. In modification of kept by the Centre on aU imported vCIe.. the present provision in the natio.. table oils (commercial or gifts) on receipt 21 5 Written ..4nswers AUGUST 19,1985 W,/u,.n Answers 216 and release after ato rage and if not, the (e) The import of edible oil (com reasons thereof; mercial) is canalised through State Trad. ing Corporation of India since 1978. (c) whether release price is being The gift oil is imported by National fixed of all imported vegetable oil Dairy Development Board for the imple (imports or gifts) by Centre and if not, mentation of their projects. Quality the reasons thereof; control to protect consumer interest is already being exercised under PFA Rules. (d) whether surplus release of import Sale of Eggs, Fish and Meat Products ed (lifts or commercial) vegetable oils by Mother Dairy have led to decrease in production spe ciaJiy in surplus States; and 3949. DR. G. VIJAY RAMA RAO: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (e) whether Government wiJl put all AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be imports of vegetable oils and their distri pJeased to state : bution under one Central authority and quality control to protect consumer (a) whether Mother Dairy is to serve producer interests ? Delhi consumers through sale of eggs, fish and meat products; THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (b) if so, the details regarding time SINGH): (a) The imported edible oil tabJe and prices proposed; and (commercial) is supplied to States/Union Territories for distribution to consumers under Public Distribution System and to (c) whether Mother Dairy 'j s intro. Vanaspati industry for manufacture of ducing sale of sugarcane juice through Vanaspati. The gift refined Soya bean oil vending booths at the end of Operation and crude rapeseed oil are being imported. Flood-II project in 1985 as also vegetable through Cooperative league of USA and oil received from CL USA ? Cooperative Union of Canada from USA and Canada respectively for generation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE or funds (or implementation of the Natio DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE. Dal Dairy Development Board's (NODB) LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL project for restructuring edible oil and CHANDRAKAR): I a) and (b). There oilteeds production and marketing. The is no proposal at present to seJl eggs, fish gift oj] received by the NODB is supplied and meat products by Mother Dairy, to the State level oilseeds growers coope Delhi. rative federations for distribution. At present the project is being implemented (c) There is no proposal at present in the States of Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, to sell sugarcane juice and vegetable oil Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Orissa, through the milk vending booths of Maharasbtra and Karnataka. The crude Mother Dairy, Delhi. rapeseed oil is refined before sale. (b) Yes, Sir. Conference of Shelter To Homeless (c) The imported edible oils (com. 3950. SHRI ANANTA PRASAD mercial) are issued to States iUnion Ter SETHI: Will the Minister of WORKS ritories at prices pre .. determined by the AND HOUSING be pleased to state: Central Government-. The gift oil is sold at the rate fixed by NDDB. ( a) whether twoaday Conference on shelter to homeless was organised in New (d) The production of oilseeds has Delhi in the month of February, 1985; aotually increased. and 21 7 Written A.1I.fW~r' SRAVANA 28 t 1907 (S4K4) Written Autre,.. 218 (b) if so, details of the major sugges weaker sections and rural housing tions made at the conference ? schemes shou'd be approved by the Government. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMBNT ARY ABFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. 10. The rate of interest for shelter BH~GAT): (a) Yes, Sir. projects for intended beneficierie 8 should be lowered to 5 per cent. (b) The censensus of opinion among 11 • A Rural Housing Finance Corpo- the panicipants, inter-alia was as follows: ration should b: set UP. 1 • the in tended beneficiaries of the 12. The shelter projects should be IYSH Projects should comprise rr~ med by takin g feed back from squatter and slum dweiJers, shel the community. terless and other disadvantaged sections of the soceity who are 13. The participation of voluntary without facilities and services like agencies in rural housing program. drinking water, sanitation, health, me should be encouraged. education, job opportunities and the like. 1'4. A cen~us of slums and marginal settlements should be carried out 2. Single window approach should be all over t he country. adopted for tackling the problems of the shelterless. 1 S. A long term land utilisation policy based on future economic develop 3. An inventory of available land ment and demographic projections resources and continuous updating should be adopted. of date should be undertaken. 16. To achieve intensive utilisation of 4. A minimum percentage of land land. stratelZY of 'low rise high should be allocated and earmarked density' development should be for the purpose of providing adopted. shelter to the homeless. 17. The concept of incremental deve 5. A Jand bank should be created. lopment be considered as a land development option. 6. It should be mandatory for private developers to provide a minimum 18. A specific percentage of the total percentage of the total land deve investment in housing should oe loped for the poorest among reserved for shelter to intended the poor. beneficiaries of the IYSH Projects. 19. Macro level integrated land deve '. It should be made mandatory on all industrial units to aJlocate lopment plans should be prepared for each region by the State Town adequate land and resources for and Country Planning Organisa providing shelter to the workers. tions. 8. There should be a two pronged 20. Suitable extension agencies may attack namely creation of new be created to guide and coordinate housing stock and maintenance, extension work of various Muni. restoration, improvement and ex cipal Authorities. pansion of the existing housing assests. 21. A committee may be set up to go into the multiplicity of organisa 9. 25 per cent increase in the pre tions involved in hUlnan settle sent cost ceiling for economically ments work and to suggest 219 Wrlttel1 Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 rVritten Answers 220 suitable modifications in the insti MA TION & BROADCASTING be plea tutional structure and also to sed to state: suggest suitable . mechanism for monitoring activities in ditfereot (a) whether Government's attention institutions. ' baa been drawn to the news-item cap tioned "Aizawal viewers prefer Bangia 22. The development program'U~ of TV programmes" appearing in 'Indian comparatively bigger villages Express' dated 15 July, 1985 that Bangla should be preparad by tbe State desh Television is covering more popu Town and ,Country Plannini lation of Mizoram than the Jone relaying Organisations. station at Aizwal; and 23. \Vhile the subsidised rural housing (b) if so, whether Government of should be continued, the practice Mizoram have demanded for installation of providing free houslog sbould of a transmitter-cum· production Centre be discontinued. at Aizawal on an emergent I:>asis and Televisien stali0ns at the two districts 24, f\.1assive programme for regenera Headquarter at Lunglei and Saiha ? tinD of traditional building m ite rials should be launched. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 25. The rural and urban shelter pro MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND gramme may b~ given allocation BROADCASTING (~~HRI V.N. DAD of plan resources in the rat ion of G1L): The Governrrent have seen the 60.40 and in addition to plan ne'Ws item in question. funds resources from commercial banks should a1so be mobilised. (b) Whereas the installation of a High Power TV transmitter with a pro 26. The Reserve Bank of India"s res vision for Programme Production facilities trictions on commercial ba'ik loans is under implementation at Aizawal, fur for shelter should be liberalised ther expansion of TV service in Mizoram and the prl)c~dures followed by would depend upon future availability of financial in~:itut!ons for financiag resourc..:s. shelter projl!cts should be simpli fied. Assistance to KerJa Civil Supplies Corporation for constructing godowns 27. In order to reduce the insidence of 'transaction cost' on the in 3952. PROF. P.] KURIEN: Will tended beneficiaries suitable the' Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL amendments may be made to the SUPPLIES be pleased to state : existing legislations to reduce the cost of land acquisition, registra tion, acquisition of title etc. (a) whether the Kerala Civil Supplies Corporation has asked for financial assis 28. Research and development work tance for constructing its own godowns in the field of shelter, should be and other infrastructural facilities; orient~d to evolve 'Affordable Shelter' to the intended benefi (b) if so, the amount of assistance ciaries ano the personnel of the asked for; and implementing agencies should be trained in the new concepts and (c) the reaction of Government techni~ues of affordable shelter. thereto 1 Installation of a TraosmiUer-Cum THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND Production Centre in Mizoram CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH) : (a) No, ~ir. 3951. SHRI ANANT A PRASAD SETHI : WiJJ tbe Minister of INFOR- (b) and (c). Do not arise. 221 Written Answers SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 222 Cultivation of Palm Oil (b) the details of the sch me and action taken by Government thereont; 3953. PROF. P.J. KURlEN: Will the Minister of AG R TCUL TURE . ( c) the assistance given to each State AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be during the vear 1984_85 under the pro pleased fo State: ject and the details of work done by each State; and ( a) whether palm oil is being impor ted at presen t; (d) the provision made for the year 1985-86 to irrplemt'Dt the scheme? (b) the extent to which the pornestic requirements of oil are met by ifldig-:r:ous THE ~AINIS1ER OF PARLIAMEN production; TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BAA GAT)' (a) to (d). Housing is a. State ~ ubject. Central assil:!tance for St~te (c) whether any scheme has been for n pl[lTIS is given in the form of block loans mulated for a 1arge scale cultivation of and hlock grants. w;; hDut being tied to palm oil in the country; and any particular head of development or scheme. (d) if so, the details thereof? Introduction of Balli and Tibelan Secli\}llS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE in A.I.R. Station, Leb DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP.. MENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHAN.. 3955. SHRI p. NAMGY \L: Will DRAKAR): (a) Yes, Sir. the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to !tate : (b) The extent of domestic require ment is not fully met by indigenous pro (a) whether Leh Station cf A.I.R ~ duction and balance requirement is filet broadcasts only in Ladakhi dialect and through import s. not in BaIti and Tibetan dialects which are also spoken by many lnhabitants of Ladakh region; (c) and (d). Oil palm is cultivated in Kerala and Audaman & Nicobar IsJunds (b) whether the so called "Azad the agro-climatic ~!re where conditions Kashmir Radio" and Lhasa station o~~ Oil Palm India suitable. In Kerala, the Radio Beiji~g a1so bro~dcast Balti and Ltd., which is a joint venture of Govern Tlbet::'cn language p r'-'grammes resnecti ments of India and Kerah, is undertaking vely thrqugh their very powerful shoit plantations and in Andaman I'-licobar & wave transmitters~ Islands, the Andaman & Nicobar Forests and Plantati0Qs Development Corpor (c) if so, steps taken by G overnn-ent ation is undertaking plantations of red to counter the stro .... g prop3~ar. da bL·;ad oil palm. ca~t particu1arly of the so-called Azad Kashmir Radio ~nd also of R~:dlo Release of Funds for Housing Schemes to Beijing; States (d) whether Govern!TIent propose to introduce Balti sect:on and Tibet"an 39540. SH.RI PRAKASH CHANDR.<\ : s;:ction in the Leh SlJtiOi1 of A.I.R.; a· d Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: (e) if not, the reasons thereof? (a) the number of States who have THE \1INISTER OF STATE OF THE ·urged the Central Gevernment to release MINISTRY OF INFO!"_f..1~'T10N AND funds for housing scheme.-: in rural areas BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GAD pf the States as on 1 January, 1985; GIL): (~) B.e~:ides programn!\;'s ill 223 Written ifllSM er.r AUGUSr 19. 1985 Written AnstHt-8 224 Ladakhi, AIR, Leb broadcasts a fort the Central Government would contri nightly 30 minutes programme in Tibetan. bute Rs. 2 crore to the corpus of the But no programme in Balti is being State Insurance Fund. The State Govern. broadcast at present from AIR Leh or ment was informed that the maximum Srinagar. contribution of the Central Government could not be more than Rs. 1 crore per (b) There are reports that Radio State. However, no formal proposal for Pakistan is broadcasting programmes in the release of funds has been received Balti which is the dialect spoken in from the State Government. India's Kargil district and in Pakistan occupied Kashmir. Root disease in Coconut Trees in Andbra Pradesh (c) to (e). In its draft for ·the 7th Plan AIR has proposed hardware aod 3957. SHRI V, TULSIRAM: Win software schemes to make AIR's service the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND more effective in that region. The hard. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to ware schemes include the setting up of a state : S. W. Transmitter at Leh, upgrading the existing SW and MW Transmitters at Srinagar and Jammu. Introduction of (a) whether a large number of coco. nut trees in Andhra Pradesh are suffering new progra mmes in Balt~ from Leh and from root disease in the State; Srinaaar is also receiving AIR's attention. Amount Sanctioned for Kharif Crop (b) jf so, whether a survey has been conducted in this regard; Insurance in Andhra Pradesh (c) the steps being taken to provide 3956. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will financial assistance to the coconut growers the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND in that State by the Central Government RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to to protect them: and state : (a) whether Central Government have (d) steps being taken to eliminate the sanctioned any amount of Andhra Pradesh root disease in the trees ? for Kharif crop Insurance; THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE (b) if so, how much amount has been DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE- sanctioned; LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL (c) whether Government of Andhra CHANDRAKAR) (a) No, Sir. Pradesh have approached the Centra! According to tbe State Government, Government for more amount for the there is no root disease of coconut purpose; and trees prevalent in Andhra Pradesh. (d) jf so, the detaHs ,hereof .and the (b) to Cd}. Do not arise. time by which the necessary amount will be released for the purpose ? Medical Staff in ESI Hospitals THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. 3958. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: Will MENT(SHRICHANDULAL CHAND. the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to RAKAR): (a) and (b). No State-wise the 'reply given to Unstarrcd QUC8tion No, allocation/release of funds has been made 872 OD 25 March, 1985 regardiol BSI under the Crop Insurance Scheme during hospitals and state : the year 1985.86. (a) the number of vacancies of (C) and (d). The Government of doctors. Durses and para Medical staff' in Andbra Pradesb had enquired whether these hospitals lying vacan~ for over (i) 225 Written AnnNr. SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA.) six month and (ii) one year and reasons (c) the time by which the neoouary for not filling tbe same; informatian will be laid on tbe Table of tbe House? THB MINISTER OF STATa OF THE (b) the actual requirements ot these MINISTRY OF LABO·UR ·(SHRI T. hospitals in respect of doctors, nurses and ANJIAH): (a) to (C). The required other staff; and information is as gi ven below: . Name of the post Sanctioned Post lying vacant morc ~han strength for six monrh one year to one. Year 1 • Doctors 2635 102 303 2. Nurses 4898 67 286 3. Para-medical 2963 78 250 staff 4. Other staff 11,905 262 547 According to the information furnished THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THB by the State Governments, the posts bave DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DBVE been lying vacant generally on account LOPMENT (SHRl CHANDULAL of eitber . non-finalisation of recruitment CHANDRAKAR): (a) No detaiJocl rules, non.availability of suitable candi survey has been made about old and less dates for filling up of reserved vacancies, productive cocon.ut palms in Aodhra non-availability of qualified candidates for Pradesh. technical posts or procedural delays in filling up the posts etc. (b) The Coconut Dcvelopmeftt Boatel has prepared an Integrated Development Replanting of COCODut trees in Project for 1 5 States and Union Terri Aadbra Pradesh tories for the Seventh Plan. This includes replanting of 500 hectares of old and 3959. SHRI V. TULSIRAM: . Will uneconomic plantations iu Andhra the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND Pradesh. RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state : (c) and (d). Under this Project a replanting subsidy of Rs. 100 per palm or (a) whether most of the coconut trees ' Rs. 15,000 per hectare whichever is less in the State of Andhra Pradesh are old is proposed. The Scheme could Dot be and Dot yj~lding good crop ; considered for inclusion in the Seventh Plan because of paucity of runda. (b) if so, whether there is any pro posal under tbe consideration of Govern.. ment to replant new coconut trees in the FaDure of Tissue Culture Tedanique State ; oa Papay. (c) if so. the details of the scheme 3960. SHRlMATl USHA VERMA: and the time by which it is expected to WiIJ the. Minister of AGRICULTURE be implemented; and AND RURAL DEVELOPMBNT be pleased to state : (d) bow moch·· financial assistance (a) whether attention of Government will be provided by the Central Govern has been drawn to a neWS·itom pubJisbecf ment for tbe purpose and when ? in 'Jansatta· dated 14 July, 1985 227 Writte" ..Answer8 AUGUST 19, 198~ Written An9Wers 228 ,reaarding tissue culture project OD AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT - be papaya undertaken by JARI Ppsa, pleased to state : New Delhi; (a) measures taken by Government (b) the reaction of Government there to increase fish production ; . to; and (b) foreign exchange earned by (c) the amount spent on it so far, exporting fish and fish products during and the results achieved? _r the last tbree years; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE . (c) total annual production and DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE potential of fisheries exploited till now in LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL the country? CHANDRAKAR): (a) Yes, Sir. THE MINISTER OF-STATE THE . (b) The report in the daily is based IN on an inaccurate interpretation of the DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE- faets presented. The scientist has achieved LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL success in developing a suitable and CHANDRAKAR) : (a) The vast commercially viable technique for produc potential of fisheries in the country is ing papaya seedlings through tissue being increasingly exploited through culturc. He has demonstrated the several schemes and programmes being potential of the technique and has worked implemented both under States and Central Sectors. Some of the important out the cost~benefit ratio also. He has, however, not adopted the technique for programmes being implemented by the mass production; as he is presently Central Government are as follows: evaluating the final performance of plan'ts raised by such a method. Unless that is (i) Assistance to the States in diversi tested scientificIy al!d shown it papaya fying fishing activities and motori plants ultimately perform weB and carry" zation of indigenous craft through desired characters, the technique cannot" loans/subsidy; be uscd for large scale productioD. (ii) augmentatIon of deep sea fishing (c) . The amount spent on the estab fleet through a judicious mix of lishment of a tissile culture laboratory at indigenous, imported and char Indian Agriculture Research. Institute is tered fishing vessels; approximately Rs. 2.56 lakhs on equip ment only. (iii) providing 33% subsidy on the The research work ~ooduc(ed so far has cost of indigenously constructed resulted in isolation of tissues for cultur deep sea fishing vessels; jng, standardisation of media for callus ing, and multiplication perfecting condi (iv) providing loans on soft terms for tions required for culturing, transplanta purchase of deep sea fishing tion of plantJets to soil and use of various vesseJs through the Sbipping growth regulators to improve the growth Developmen t Fund Committee ; of pi antlets. The papaya plants raised b.. 11.ssue culture are now being evaluated for their performance in respect of vigour, (v) augmentation of Fisheries Surveys fruiting, quality, "resistance to diseases and assistance for construction of and pests and sex differentiation. fishing harbours at major and minor ports and of the landing Fisb Production and berthing facilities at smaHer fishing centres ; training of fishery 3961. SaRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: operatives for manning the ,fishing Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE vessels; 229 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answ6rs 230 (vi) regulation of fishing by foreign. (a) tbe percentage . of population vessels in the Exclusive Economic covered under the Fair Price Shops in tho Zone. For this purpose, 'The country ; Maritime Zones of India (Regula tion of Fishing by Foreign (b) the number of Fair Price Shops Vessels) Act, 1981' has come into in urban and rural areas; and force with effect from 2nd November, 1981 ; (c) the percentage of performance of (vii) establishment of . Fish Farmers' different States in achieving the norms Development Agencies at district prescribed by the Central Government ., levels for development of aquacul ture; THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (viii) construction of commercial size SINGH): (a) The entire population Fish Seed Farms and hatcheries in in the country has been covered by fair States: price shops. (ix) development of brackishwater fish (b) The total number ,of, fair price and prawn farming in maritime shops in the country is reported to be States/U. Ts. and utilisation of 3.19 lakhs as on 31st March, 1985. saline lands in certa in land locked Out of this, about 2.48 lakhs fair price States; shops are in rural areas. (x) development of resources" for enhancing fish production; and (c) . The Central Government has advised the States/Union Territories to (xi) establishment of trout hatcheries try to achieve the norm of ODe fair price for supporting trout culture on shop for. every 2000 persons. On the commercial scale.• basis of population figures of 1981 census, 15 States/Union Territories have (b) Foreiga exchange earned by achieved this norm. In the' remainiq exporting fish and fish products is as 1 6 States IUnion Territories the Dorm bas follows: Dot yet ~en achieved and the percentage of shortfall ranges Crom 3 % to 5 I ". Foreign Exchange Year (Rs. in crores) Implementation of TRYSEM 1982 342.24 3963. SHRI KALI PRASAD PAN.. DEY: Will the Minister of AGRICUL 1983 362.32 TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 1984 385.50 (a) whether Government are aware of . (c) The National Commission on tbe uneven implementation of the pro Agriculture envisaged a production level gramme for Training of Rural Youtb for of 80 lakh lonnes from marine, inland Self.Employment (TR YSBM) by State and bracki9hwater sectors by the year Governments ; 2000 AD. The annuaJ production for the year t 984 has been estimated at 28.40 lakh tonnes. . (b) whether in view of this, Govern ment propose to undertake in-depth review of the e~jstiDg training arran,&. Population covered by Fair Price Shops ments and tbe Syllabi prescribed by vari 3962. SHRI S. KRISHNA KUMAR: ous trainina institutions; and Win the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (c) if so, the details i. this reaard ? 231 Wrln,n Ans,,'er.J AUGUST 19, 1985 Wrllt~n Answ~rs 232 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE [Eng/ish] DSPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE- Allocation of Edible oil to West Bengal LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR) : . (a) TRYSEM is a 3965. SHRI SANAT KUMAR CoDtrally sponsored programme, imple MANDAL: Will the Minister of FOOD mented according to uniform guidelines AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to of the Union Government. Some degree state : of unevenness in the implementation of the programme spread over all tbe blocks (a) whether it is a fact that Central and aJl the districts of tbe country cannot Government have halved the monthly be ruled out. aIJotment of edible oil for West Bengal from 12,000 tonnes to 6 ~ 000 tonnes ; (b) and (c). The implementation of the programme is reviewed from time to (b) jf so, the reasons tberefor ; time. Action , both in terms of provid- irig infrastructural requirements of training (c) whether as a result of this institutions and revision of the content reduction, the State Government has of training, its syllabi and dura~ion. is been forced to reduce the quantity of then initiated. supply of refined rapeseed oil through ration shops ; [TrDIIslation] (d) whether State Government has Financial Assistance to U.P. for Paddy protested against the reduction in allot Production ment and requested the Centre to increase the quota ; and 3964. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI : Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVE (e) jf so, the Centre's reaction -LOPMENT be p1eased 'to state : thereto and tbe steps taken to restore the original quota and make additional quantity available in view of the ensuing (a) whether Uttar Pradesh Govern festival season ? q}P.Dt have approached the Central Government for financial assistance, for THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND increasing the produc~ion, of paddy; CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA and SINGH) (a) TliC allocation of imported edible oil for the month of (b) jf so, the detai1s of action taken August, 1985, for West Bengal _is 7,500 in this regard '? M. Tonnes while the allocation was 12000 MT in February, 1985. During May to July, 1 985, the allocation was THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE 6,000 M. TODDes. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI (b) The price and availability of CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) Mustard oil was very satisfactory in the Yes Sir. State. Therefore, tbe alJocation of imported oil under public Distribution (b) A centraHy sponsored scheme of -system was reduced. The allo.cation is Special Rice Product:on Programme for supplementary in nature and is intended 102 selected blocks of Uttar Pradesh has to bridge· the gap between availability been approved by the Government of of indigenous edib1e oil and the demand. India for implementation during Seventh It can not meet the entire demand of Five Year Plan. "The financial outlay any State/Region due to Hmited availa sanctioned for the year 1985-86 is bility of imported edible oils. Rs. 841.20 lakhs which \1.'ill be shared on 50 : SO basis between the Government of (c) t·:) (e). A request . from the Indht 'and' the State Government. State Government was received in . tbis ~33 W,.ltten Answers SRAVANA ~8. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answe,.s 234 regard. The Central Government have (ii) Mjs Es~ex Farm Private Ltd., already increased the allOCation of New Delhi. imported edible oil to West Bengal 7,500 M. Tonnes for the month of (iii) M /s Hi-Bred India Private Ltd., August, t 985. Karnal, Haryana. Hatcheries producing chicks in the country (iv) M /s Kasila Farms Private Ltd., Hyderabad. 3966. SHRI M. RAGHUMA (v) Kegg Farms, Gurgaon, RED~Y: Will the Minister of AGRI Mis CUL!URE AND RURAL DEVELOP Haryana. MENT be pJeased to state : (vi) Mis Perundurai Poultry Farm and (a) the number of chicks required to Hatchery, Tamil Nadu. meet the requirement of poultry growers ; (vii) Mis Poona Pe1rls Poultry (b) the hatcheries producing the Breeding Farms and Hatcheries, chicks; Pune. (c) whether Government have enough (viii) MIs Rani Shaver Poultry Breeding resources to supply chicks to egg growers; Farm Pvt. Ltd., New Delhi. if not, detai Js thereof ; (ix) MIs Venco Research and BreedioJ! (d) whether Government have any Farm, Pune. control over private Hatcheries, if so, details thereof, if not, reasons thereof; (x) M/s Venkateshwara Research and (e) whether Government have any Breeding Farm~ Pune. control over chick price ; if so, steps Some of these Breeding Farms/Hatc taken, jf not, reasons thereof ; and heries are alst:) directly producing 'and selling commercial hybrid chicks. (f) whether Government propose to bring legislation on private hatchery monopoly, if so, details thereof; and In the public sector Central Poultry Breeding Farms at Chandigarh. Bhu bancswar, Bombay and Hesserghatta (8) if not, the reasons therefor ? (Bangalore) under the Department of Agriculture & Cooperation, All India THE MINISTER OF STATE IN Co.ordinated Research Project on THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL Poultry Breeding of Indian Council of DEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL Agricultural Research at Izatnagar and CHANDRAKAR) : (a) The requirement C(ntres under this project, and various of chicks by poultry growers during Stat~ Poultry Farms ar~ also producing 1985.86 has been estimated as 86 and selling parent stock icommercial million layer chicks and 7 1 million hy-brid chicks broiler chicks. (b) Some of the major Poultry Breeding (c) The Central Poultry Breeding Farms/Hatcheries selling parent stocks Farms under the Department of Agri. to their associate . hatcheries who in culture & Cooperation and the All turn produce and seH . commercial bybrid India Co-oedinated Research Project on chicks are :- Poultry Breeding of Indian Council of Agricultural Research are in a position (i) MIs Asian Agro Farms India to meet bulk of the requirement of the Ltd., New Delhi. egg type parent slock for their subSt!quent 23 S WrlttM A.1I.flHrs AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answ~" 236 multiplication and supply of commercial (d) what are the Jines developed by hybrid-chicks to the farmers. the leAR so far? (d) There is no control as such on THE MINISTER OF STATE IN the hatcheries operating in various parts THE DEPARMENT OF RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ~HANDULAL of tbe coun try in private sector. Th~ Department of Agriculture & Cooperation CHANDRAKAR) .: (a) The import bas, however, have taken up regjstration of grand parent stock (poultry) is included of hatcheries/poultry breeding farms on . in the list of restricted items in the Import and Export Policy for tbe period voluntary basis. April. 1985-Marcb, 1988. However, under the Import Policy for Registered (e) The prices of chicks produced in Exporters, Import of grand parent the Public Sector Units are controlled by poultry stock is allowed to approved the Government. The prices of chicks Registered Hatcheries (i) to the eAtent produced in the Private Sector Units of 10% of the value of export of Jive are fixed by respective Units.' There is chicks and hatching eggs subject to a no proposal under consideration of the maximum' value of Rs.' 5.00 lakhs and Centra} Government to control the prices (ii) upto 3% of the value of export of of chicks. TabJe Eggs subject to ceiling of Rs. 0.50 lakh' per Registered Hatchery in a (f) and (g). As expJained in answer licensing year. to parts (b) and (c), a number of private sector poultry breeding farms/hatcheries (b) The following major poultry are in operation~ addition to the public breeding falms in the private sector are sector breeding farms. As there are a having pureJine breeding programme in number of public sector and private units the country :- in operation, there is no monopoly as such. There is no proposal under (i) M/s Venkateshware Research and consideration of the Central Government Breeding Farm, Pune. -at present to bring legislation to control and - regulate the private hatcheries. (ii) Mjs Venco Research a~d Breeding Moreover, poultry is a State subject. Farm, Punc. Production of "pure line" chicks in India (iii) Mis Kegg Farm. Gurgaon (Haryana) 3967. SHRI M. RAGHUMA REDDY: Win the Minister of AGRl (iv) Mis Poona Pearls Poultry Breedina CULURE. AND RURAL DEVELOP Farms and Hatcheries, Punc. MENT be pleased to state: (8) whether there is a ban on import (v) M (s Kasila Farms Private of grand parent of chick. if so, detaiJs Limited., Hyderabad thereof; They produce tbe pureline chicks for their own breeding programme. They (b) details of firms producing "pure mostly -sen parent Itock, however, some line'· chicks in India, how many are of tbem a]so sell commercial hybrid under sector and private sector and how chicks. PureJine poultry breediDI many are under pulic sector ; programme bas been taken up in the public sector in 'the Central Poultry (c) wbether Government have any Breeding Farms at Bombay, Hessarghatta plan to start a pure line chick project (Bangalore), Bhubaneswar and Chandigarb under pubJic sector to supply quality under the Department of Agriculture chicks if so, delails thereof, if not the and Cooperation as also under the AU reasons thereof; and India Co-ordiDated Research Project OD 237 Written Answers SRAVANA 28-, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 238 Poultry Breeding of Indian Council of such information. Ajlricultural Research. Pureline Poul try Breeding Programme has also been taken (b) and (c). In view of (a) above, up by some o( the Poultry Breeding do not arise. Farms. Sugar Mills on verge of closure (C) As explained in (b) above, pureline poultry breeding programme has already 3969. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR been taken up in the Central Poultry TRIPATHI Will the Minister of Breeding Farms under the Departrnent of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be Agriculture and cooperation and the All pleased to state : India C() ·ordinated Research Project on (a) whether Government are aware Poultry Breeding of Indian Council of Agri- that Anand Sugar Mill Khalilabad, cultura 1 Research. Quality layer and broiler R"tna Sugar Mill, Shahganj, Jaunpur and parent stock is avaiiabJe from these pubfic Walterganj Sugar Mill, Basti are on the sector Poultry Breedtng Farms/Project. verge of closure; (d) Indian Council of Agricultural (b) if so,' whether Government are Research has developed Jayer strain going to take any steps to ensure that named IL[-SO and broHer strains named IBL-BO and IBB-83. tht;se mills do not close down; [Trans lation] (C) if so, the d~tails thereof and if not, the reasons therefor ; Closure of sugar mills for modernisation (d) whether it is a fact that a large 3968. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR amount of farmers dues are outsanding TRIPATHI Will the Minister of against these mills; and FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (e) jf so, how Government propose (a) whether some sugar mil] owners to ensure payment to farmers? are trying to close their mills in the name THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND of medernistation ; CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (b) if so, the steps taken by Govern SINGH): (a) Government have not ment to protect the services of the reeeived any information tbat the officers and employees working in them; Khalilabad, Ratna and Walterganj Sugar and factories intend to close down per manently. (c) jf no action is being taken • therefor? (b) and (c). Do not arise. THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND (d) The position of sugarcane price CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA . payments agginst these factores is given SINGH): (a) Government have no below: (Figures in Rs./lakhs) Sugar Total Cane Balance Arrears Factory cane price price for for 1983. payabJe for ,aid 1984-85 and earli~.r 1 984-85 season seasoo seasons KhaHlabad 42.95 13.67 29.28 Nil Ratna 83.58 60.20 23,38 NeglIgible Walterganj 64.08 64.08 Nil 239 Written Answn AUGUST 19, 1985 (e) Apart from taking steps to conducts competition in classical mu.ic, improve the liquidity position of the and light music only. industry in order to enable it to pay the cane dues, Central Government has _(b) Yes, Sir. The competition il been monitoring tbe position of cane organised in two stages namely :- price arrears and issuing di rectioDs for (i) "Preliminary Competition" which tbeir expeditious clearance to the State is organised at e.ch Station of ' Government including Government of AIR; and U.p. However, ensuring payment of cane price dues is tbe direct res ponsi (ii) "Final Competition" which is bility of tbe State Government 'who held at DO AIR, New Delhi and have the necessary field. organisations Madras for Hindustani and and powers to enforce such payments. Karnataka Music respective)y. rhe performance of Government of (c) ,Yes, Sir. Contracts, are given to U .p. has been quite satisfactory this sueces~ful candidates in competition season, as' is evident from the fact that final in each category for broadcasts on AIR. cane price arrears in U.p. as on 30.6.85 for 1984-85 season stood, at 6.2% of (d) No, Sir. the total cane price as against 20.8 % on the corresponding date last year. (e) AIR Stations are already broadcasting folk music in their [English] day to day programmes regular)y. Folk Annual Competition in tbe classical Music forms a very i,mportant part of music, light music and folk songs AIR music programme and constitutes conducted by AIR ] O. 91 ~o of the total music programmes which in tUfn constitute 38% of the total 3970. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: . programmes of AIR. Total duration of folk Will the Minister of INFORMATION music programmes broadcast during 1984 AND BROADCASTING be pleased to by AIR was 16,821 hours. AIR Stations state : broadcast folk music of their own regions as well as other regions. (a) whether All India Radio conducts aD'nually competition in the classical Broadcast 0 f classical literature music, Light music and folk songs ; 3971. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Will the Minister of INFORMATION f b) whether e~ery broadcasting station AND' BROADCASTING be pleased to is directed to conduct these competitions state : or onty selected broadcasting stations ~nduct these competition (a) whether classical literature in various languages gets any chance for (c) whether contracts are given to being broadcast at least once in every tbe successful candidates by the All month; and India Radio for conducting concerts; (b) if so, details thereof? (d) whether folk music in all the THE MINISTER - OF STATE OF languages is also selected for tbe purpose THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION of competition; and AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. . GADGIL): (a) Yes, Sir • (e) if not, whether there are proposals in the near' future to encourage folk (b) Programmes based on classical music in all tbe dialects by allotting literature of various languages are sufficient time in broadcasting? broadcast from different stations of AJJ India Radio from time .to time in THE MINISTER OF STATE OF the following" types of programmes THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATJON regularly and frequently :- AND BROADCASTING (SHRt V.N. GADGIL) (a) Yes, Sir. AIR (i) Literar) Magazine programme : 241 Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) WritteIJ Answr8 242 (ii) Recitations from religions granths; (v)· Sayings of classical authors on unive~sal themes ; and (iii) IJlustrative programme based on recitation from classical poems; (vi) Talks on classical literature. Illustratively the programmes broad (iv.) Radio plays based on classical cast by Delhi Station from 1.4.85 to literary works in different 3 1. 7.85 are given in the Statement .Ianguages ; below. Statement ALL INDIA RADIO : NEW DELHI List of Programmes Broodcast on Classical Literature from April, 1985, to July, 1985 Date Time Channel & Particulars of the Programmes Duration 1 2 3 . 4 30.4.85 7.45 PM ·Delhi B "KHUTOOT-E.. GHALIB 20 mts. Compilation by Dr. Khaleer Anjum. 7.5.8S 9.30 ~M Delhi A CHAR ADHYA Y A: PIa, 30 mts. Original story of Rabindra Natb Tagore Adaptation: Sb~i Deep Narayaa Mitholiya. 8.5.85 8.30, PM Delhi A Rabindra Nath Tagore ke Kavya 12 mts. Me.in Prem: Talk by Smt. Usha Chaudhary. 18.S.8S 7.45 PM Delbi B Adabi Sbehpare: Illustrated talk: 18 mts. on Dastan-e-Amir Hamza: by Prof. Gyan Chand JaiD. 19.5.85 7.02 AM Delhi B Sansk rit Bbashyam - Alankar Sahityam D hwanyalok : Talk by Shri Damodar Shastri. 21.5.85 7.30 AM Delhi A Kabir ke Padon ka path. 10 mts. - 2.6.85 7.02 AM Pelhi B Kalidas ki RachnayoD. mein TatkaJeen Parisibitiyan: Talk by Dr. Harvansh Lal Sharma. 15.6.85 7.45 PM Delhi B Adabi Shehpare: DJustrated talle 18 mts. on' '·Masnavi Sebrul Bayan" by Prof. Manzar Abbas Naqut. 16.6.85 7 .. 02 AM Delhi B Sanskrit Bhashsyam - ~laDku 10·mts. Sahityam Sabitya Darpan: Talk by Prof. Satyavrat, 143 Wrttt_ Ntswt!l"1 AUGUST 19. 1985 W,lttna AnsWers 244 ------1 2 , 3 4 ------ 27.6.85 8.1S PM Delhi A Aaj ke Sandarbh mein-Bankim 15 mts. Chandra Talk -py Shri Ganga Prasad Virna). 28.6.85 9.30 PM Delhi A Devi Chaudharani:. PJ~y Original 60 mts. by Bankim 'Chandra CbaUerjee Radio Adaptation: Shri Vinayak Bhattachariya. 6.7.85 7.45 PM Delhi B Adabi Shehpare: IHustrated talk 11 mts. on "Fasana-e-Azad" by Dr. Ashfaq Mohammed Khan. 21.7.85 7.02 AM Delhi B Sanskrit Gaurav Grantb: Rigveda 10 mts. Talk by PrOf. Satyakam Verma. 24.7.85 9.00 P.M Delhi A Maithili Sharan Gupt krit 14 mts. "Saket" mein Manviya Moolyon ki vyakhya ' Talk by Dr. Bindu Aggarwal. 30.7.. 85 9.30 PM Delhi A Sujan Bhagat: Play " 30 mts. Original story: Munsh i Prem Chand Radio adaptation by Sbri Sbakher Vaishnavi. ' 30,7.85 7.45 PM- Delhi B Khuda-e.Sukhun: Meer Taqi 29 mts. Meer Special feature written by Dr• .N.A. Farooqui, 'Devised and pro duced by Shri M ohd. Shafiq 31.7.85 9.00 PM Delhi A Manviya Bhavnaon ke Udgata- 14 mts. Prem Chand i- , TaJk by Dr. Har Dayal. Announcers and News-Readers in the (b) No, Sir. Doordarsban Appointment of News-Readers and 397,2. SHRI E. EYYAPU REDDY: Announcers in Doordarshan Will the Minister of INFORMATION Kendra, Bangalore AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state : 3973. SHRI V.S. KRISH'NA IYER : (a) . whether Announcers and News Will the Minister of INFORMATION ,Readers in the Doordarshan are engaged AND _BROADCASTING be pleased to state : only on cOntract ba~is; and (a) whether it is a ract that news (b) whether there are proposals to readers and announcers are selected on' . make them permanent members of the .contract basis without caning public staff jf they ate able 'to qualify. in the pre advertisement in Ban galore Doordarshan scribed tests from time"to time '1 ' Kendra; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (b) whether it is a fact that some of BROADCASTING (SHRJ, V.N .. 'GAD the news readers and announcers V\ ho are GIL) :.' (a) , Yes., ..sir~- ... :. .' at prelent worki~g there are permanent 245 Written Answr,t SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written l4111W.. 246 employees of Cen,tral/State Government MA TION AND BROADCASTING be establishments; pleased to state: (c) whether Governm'ent will consider (8) the number of feature films tele taking persons who are unemployed for cast by Delhi Doordarshan in a year; the a~ove posts instead of taking persons who are already wor king elsewhere; and (b) the amount paid per film of . (d) . whether it is a fact that some of different grade ,shown in Delhi TV; the artists who have given programmes have not taken prior permission from tbeir respective Officers ? (c) whether there is a need to make the programme more interesting by show THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ing latest feature films; and \fINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASfING (SHRI 'V.N. GAD (d) if so, the steps taken in this GIL): (a) to (d). The information is regard ? being collected and will be laid 00 tbe Table of the Sabba. .. THE MINISTER OF STATE OFTHB Telecast of Feat\U"e Films by Delhi MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND Doordarshan BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N .. GAD. 3975. SHRI RADHAKANTA DI GIL) ': (a) to (d). A statement is aiven GAL: Will the Mi'oister of INFOR. below. State.eat Doordarshan K.endra, Delhi are telecasting feature films every month as per the following schedule : (a) Pint Sunday AC~ernooD. Award winning regioo~ films on tbe national net work. (b) 2nd, 3rd and 5th Sunday Afternoon Regional films which have beea categorised as lA' bJ the Selection Committee to be carried by Delbi and Relay Trans miners.. (c) Sundayeveninp Hindi fillIIS/award. winniAa regional feature filmaj611l1l for premier tele cast on the aatiOll8l aetwork. (d) lit and 3 rd SatureS., niahts PoreiaD ancI 014 clasaic feature films on national De& wort. AUGUST 19. 1985 2. The rate structure for payment of feature films by DoordaJshan Kendra, Delbi is as foUows : A. Hindi Feature Films (i) " Tbe rate structure (or payment of black &. white featur~ films from Door. darshan Kendra, Delhi is as foHows : Category Delhi- 10 KW 1. Raipur of film Massoorie Transmitters 2. M ozaffarpur 3. GuJbarga 4. S~mbalpur S. Na-~pur 6. 20-Low Power Tra"nsmi t te rs (1 KW) 1 2 3 4 Rs. Rs. Rs. A 20.000 10,000 3,000 B 1 S,OOO 7,500 2,250 C and repeat 10,000 5,000 --1,500 (ii) "Additional payment will be made For tbe first repeat telecast of any for telecast of black and white film, payment will be made at the rate (,f film on any other independent 70% of the rates payable for first telecast. ,station added in the network at" For second and subsequent repeats, the tbe rate mentioned in Col. 4 if rate of payment wilJ be 50% of the rates the transmitter works on 1 KW payable for the first telecast. or lower power and at the rate mentioned in Cot. 3 if the power of transmjtter is operated on 1 0 B. Regional Feature Films KW. Only such regional feat ure films which (iii) For Hindi feature films telecast have been categorised as 'A' by the Selec in colour from individual Kendras, tion Committees constituted at various 25% extra over the foregoing Dbordarshan Kendras will be eJigible for rates 'of payment (for black and telecast from Doordarshan Kendra, Delhi. white) will be admissible. 'B' Category films ma}, also be telecast from D60rdarshan Kendra. Delhi in (iv) For telecast of Hindi ftature, case there ~s no °A' Category film in that films in colour on the national particular language and the representation network, the rates for payment is necessary Howev_er, nor more than will be as fonows :- ,two such regional language films win be' (Rs. in Jakhs) screened in one calendar year. The , . owners of such films wi 11 supply copies ( a) 'A· Ca.tegory 4.00 of the films with sub-titles in Eng1!sh. film The rates of payn ent for such 'films will (b) 'B· Category 3.00 be same as for Hindi fe'ature films. How film ever. the payment for sub-titJes will be made by Doordarshan as re imbursement (c) 'e' Category 2.00 of the expenditure and not 'as the advance film payment. 249 Writtelf Answe,.s SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Written Answer.' 250 c. Premier Telecast which have been offered to them for tele cast by the producers/TV Righ't holders. All feature films included in the Normally, films a're offered to Door Panorama Section of the Indian Inter darshan only when the commercial circuit national Film Festivals and alJ such, films of the film has been fully exhausted, which ba ve won any a ward in the, Ho\.\ever, to encourage good film makers~ National Film Festival or any recognised Doordarshan has recently enhanced the International Film Festival will be eligible rates for telecast of films and also intro for consideration for paymen t of a fee of duced the scheme of "Pre'i:nier" tekcast Rs. 8.00 Jakhs if offered for prelnier against payment of Rs. 8.00 lakhs. telecast, on the national network of Door darshan. Kaonadigas Working in Bangalore Doordarshan Kendra ,D. Old Classics 3976. SHRI V.S. KRISHNA I):'ER : Old classic feature films in black & Will the Minister or INFOR,MATION whi te when telecast on national net~ork AND BROADCASTING be pleased to will be eligible for the same payment as state : given for telecast of Hindi feature films in colour on the national network, minus (a) number of Kannadigas working iQ 25%. Class II and Class j II categories in Bangalore Doordarshan Kendra ; E. Regional Films on th~ National' Network (b) total strength of Class II and III workers at present working there ; Good classic 'films, top class regional films which have won national award (c) whether ,any preference is given to for best film and have been categorised as those candidates whose motber tongue is .. A' by'tbe Committees for selection of Kannada; and films are eligible for payment at par with the Hindi feature films when telecast od ( d) if not, the reasons therefor ? the national network of Doordarshan. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3. Though it has always been the MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND endeavour of Doordarshan to telecast BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD 'latest films, the basic factor is the Door. GIL): (a) and (b). Th~ requisHe ,darshan has to depend on only such films infotmation is as follows :- Category Total No. of No. of persons in Kannada position speaking. persons Group'Il' 16 5 Group 'C9 48 18 Staff Artists 43 26 (c) and (d). The recruitment is made' has been prescribed as one of the eligibility strictly in, a~,cordaQce with the ,prescribed conditions on, account of fllnctional recruitment r~les without 'any discrimi requirements, only candidates proficient in nati.on , . on IinguistJc basis, However, this ,language are considered for selection. where pr~ficiency in KanPada langu~~e 25 1 Writl~n Answ~'$ AUGUST 19, 1985 Global Strategy 00 Human ResourceS the number of housing units and type of structure is' collected at the time of' 3978. SHRI CHlNTAMANI PANI decennial census and is used by the GRAHl: Will the Minister of LABOUR National Buildings Organisation (NBO)' be pleased to state : for estimating the housing shortage in tbe country from time to time. (a) whether India along with some other countries urged the (LO to formu (b) to (d). Do not arise. late global strategy on the use of human resources ; . Extension of E.S.I. Scheme to Private Sector (b) wheth'r such strategy .has been formulated; and 3980. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will tbe Minister of LABOUR be pleased (c) if so,. the datails thereof? to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (a) whether Government have extend MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ed the Employees State Insurance Scheme ANJIAH): (a) No such proposal for to ihe privat-e sector; global strategy on the use of human resources was made by. India at the (b) if not, whether necessary guide Interna'ional Labour Conference held in lines are proposed to be sent to tbe Geneva in June, 1985. private sectors; and (b) & (c). Does not arise. (c) what other steps are proposed to be taken to extend such schemes to .the Collection and Maintenance of Housing private sector ? Units in Rural Areas THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 3979. SHRI CHINTAMANI PANI MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. GRAHl: Will the Minister of WO~KS ANJIAH): (a). The Employees States AND HOUSING be pleased to state: Insuran~ Scheme is already applicable to factories and certain other classes of (a) whether it is a fact that at present establiihments in private. as weJl as the DO machinery or arrangement is available public sector, which are located in the to coHect reliable data relating to the areas, where the Scheme bas bec;n Dumber and parliculars of housing units implemented. 'in the r~ral areas ; (b) whether famous Indian short (~) whether it is a fact that the above , stories and serials of children films are directives are Dot being implemented in aJso proposed_ to be telecast by Door- letter and spirit ? da,rshan ; THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT (c) whether such changes are pro ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BH-\ posed to be made in the State Television GAT): ,a \ Though DO su... h directive was issued, steps to be'taken for improv stations also ; ing the efficiency 6f administration were discussed by th~ Prime Minister with the (d) jfso, the directives given to all Minister of State of Pe(sonnel and Train the Doordarshan Centres; and ing and Administrative Reforms, Public Grievances and Pension. The Depart (e) the details of the plan of the ment of Personnel and Training had taken Government in th is regard? up with the Ministry of Works and, Hous ing matter relating to improving the THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE accommodation problem of all lndla MINISTR Y OF INFORM -\ TION AND Service Officers coming on tenure to BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD Delhi. GIL): (a) It has always been the endeavour of Doordarshao' to introduce new serials with a view to sustain interest (b) A Tenure Pool cf'nsisting of type of the viewers, and also improve upon on' Type 'E' and Hostel accommodation the quality of programmes. This is, _how for alJotment to the officers of the An ever, a continuous process. India Services who come on tenure to Delhi has been under operation Follow ing action bas been taken recently;' (b) Yes, Sir. (c) to tel. Yes, Sir. Doordarshan (i) Orders have been issued to Kendras will be accepting sponsored earmark specific number of quar serials in their regional languages, if ters and more suites in the offered ,for te,lecast, provided they con Hostels in Kasturba Gan·dhi ferm to the standards laid down in this Marg in the Pool ; regard. The Kendras' have also been asked to encourage such proposals which (ii., Allotment Rules have been reflect art, culture, literature and amended in May, 198.: to pro aspirations of their respective regions and vide for allolment of entitled type people. of accomn10dation from the Tenure PDQ] ; Provision of accommodation to officials coming 00 deputation in Delhi (iii) DeCision bas been taken to include more quarters in the' Pool \\ hen 3982. SHRI MANVEND~A SI~GH: new quarters under construction Will the Minister ot WORKS AND are completed. HOUSING be pleased to state-: (c) No Sir. (a) whether Prime Minister has issued couple of months back directive Allotment of HUDCO Flats 1979 Scheme that the tenure officers coming on deputa.. at Kalkaji ' 'tiOD with the 'Government of India should be provided aecommodlllion of their 3983. SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: entitlement immediately after their report- ,Will ,the Minister of WORKS AND , ins for duty in DeJhi ; , HOUSING be pleased to state : (bl if so, the action taken i~ this (a) whether any draw for allounent resard ; .and of HVDeO Flat~ 1979 Scheme for 255 W"ill~n AnsKers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answerl 2S6 Kalkaji ExtensioD, New Delhi bas so far endownments. The Government have been held; been reviewing and monitoring the poJie), for diversification of croppio$ pattern and (b) if not, the reasons thereof; and improvement in crop productivity in different regions. Guidelines are issued (c) when the flats at Kalkaji Exten from time to time for introduction of sion (HUDCO 1979 Scheme) are likely most efficietlt crops in different 'agro to be allotted to the successful al10ttees climatic conditions, expansion of area of the colony. wise draw held in January, under oilseeds and pulses and introduc 1983 ? tion of non ·traditional crops like soyabeao and sunflower etc. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT ARY AfFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA Rat io between the News.items and GAT): (a) A draw for allocation of Advertisements 304 LIG flats in Kalkaji Extension was he1d on 16-.2-1983. The Specific draw 3985. SHRIMATI BASAVARAJESH for number of flats has not been held W ARI: Will the Minister of INFOR so far. MATION AND BROADCASTING' be pleased to state: (b) Does not arise in view of reply to part (a) ·above. (a) whether. there is any norm pres cribed for tbe Dews papers regarding tbe (c) The flats afe likely to be corn· ratio between the ne~s-items and adver. pJeted by December, 1985 and will be tisements; 'and allotted thereafter. (b) if so, the details thereof 1 Regions. wise Strategy for Agriculture Production THE M~NlSrER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD 3984. SHRI SnMNATH RATH: . GIL): (a) No Sir. Will .the Minisfer' of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be .J?1eased to state : (b) Does not arise • (a \ whether imbalances in the field of agriculture s'i1J persist in the country; if Introduction of Foreign Soft Drinks in ro details thereof region-wise and crop India .wise; 3986. SHRl ANANDA PATHAK: (b) whether it is necessary to have a Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL region-wise specific strategy for further SUPPLIES be pleased to state; increase in overalJ production; and (a) whether it 'is a (act that Govern (e) if so, steps being taken in this ment are considering to allow maricctting direction? of foreign soft drinks in India; and THE MINISTER OF STATE' IN THE (b) if so, the reasons therefor? DEPARTMENT' OF RURAL DEVE. LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) to (c). Varia THE MINISTER OF FOOD' AND tions in cropping patter~. input use and CIVIL SUPPLIE,S '(RAO BIRENDRA ·the re'sultant" crop productivity exist large SINGH): (a) and (b). This Ministry lyon account of. inter-regional disparities has no such proposal under considera in agro-climatic conditions and resource tioD. SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Written Anstr,r~ 2 S 8 Demand9 or E.P.F. Emplopers, Karnataka vices to the subscribers of Silisuri. Jal- paiguri and other districts· . 3987. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN. , Will tho Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: (b) if so, whether the tiles of Jalpai guri district have not yet been transfer. red to Siliguri which has resulted in (a) whether the Supreme Court bas extreme hardship to tbe subscribers or. held that the appropriate authority in Jalpaiguri; respect of tbe E.P.F. Organisation is the Centra) Government; (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and (b) whether the Supreme 'Court while pronouncing its decision ha., also observed ( d) steps taken for expedi dous trans tbat the demands of tbe Karnataka E P F ferring of records/fil.s etc. to Siliguri ? Staff Union pending for a long ti~e •~ referred to the Tribunal by the Central THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THB Government·, and MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. The office (c) if so, the action taken by Govern wa~ opened on 4.2.1977 to deal with tho ment in this regard? accounts of subscribers of Darjeeling. Jalpaiguri, West Dinajpur, Maida and THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Cooch Bihar Districts. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) and (c). InitialJy due to resistance from the Employees' Provident Fund (bl The Supreme Court have observed Staff Association, West Bengal, accounts that the Central Government will consi pertaining to Jalpaiguri district were not der tbe question of referring the demands transferred to the Sub-Regional Office at to an Industrial Tribunal and take appro Siliguri. In recent years demands from priate action. several quarters have been received for opening of a Sub-Regional Office at Jal paiguri, Pending final decision in this (c) The matter has· been examined behalf, the accounts of Jalpaiguri district and it is felt that the Central Government continue to be maintain at the Regional will coine into the picture in this matter Offico, Calcutta. only after the Assistant Labour Commis. sioner (Central) concerned submits his 'failure of conciliation' report. The (d) Final decision regarding transfer Central Provident Fund Commissioner of accounts of Jalpaiguri district from has been advised to inform the General Calcut,ta either· to Jalpaiguci or SiJiguri Secretary, Kamataka Provident Fund can be taken only after Central Board of Employees Union Bangalore to move Trustees and Government take a decision the Assistant Labour Commissioner COD about opening of a . Sub.. Regional Office cerned for conciliation proceedings as a at Jalpaiguri. de-novo case in the first instance. RecotB..... tioas Made by the Coauolttee Sub-Regional Office of Employees 08 Laagaap Ageoeies . Provideat FUM, Siliguri 398·9. SHRI SURESH KURUP: 3988. SHRI HARIHAR SOREN: Will· the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be ploucd to Will tbe Minister of LABOUR be plcaaed to state: .to state: . <.) wbetbctr Sub.. Regional Office of (a) the recommendation made by the Bmployees Provident· Fund, Siliauri was Committee OD Laoauaae AICDC~ coosa oPtDed five year. bact to facilitate 1eI"- tuted on 26tb Juno ·1985; 2 S9 Written Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 W:rltten Answers 260 (b) whether tbe Committee bas re New Schemes for Construction or Jana'ta commended that Samachar Bharati and Flats for Weaker SecUoDS. by D.D~A. Hindustan Samachar should not be re vived; aDd 3990. SHRI LAL RAM KEN: SHRfGURUDASKAMAT: (c) jf so, what would be the fate of employees working in these agencies ? Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to state: tHE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (a) whether Delhi Development BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD. Authority (DDA) are preparing and new GIL): (a) and (b). The Com~ittee sche~c for construction of smaller flates, has made the foUo\\'ing specific recom or Janata flates for the weaker sections mendations :- of the society in future; and (i) The reaction of a fulf1edged news {b) jf so, details thereof and when such agency with adequate technologi scheme is likeJy,. to be announced for the cal back up wi1J. require at)east information of genera) public ? R •• 3 crores for capital expendi ture and, in addition. recurring THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT. expenditure of Rs. 1 crore per ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. year. The Indian language news BHAGAT): (a) There are already papers are not at all in a position schemes with the DDA for construction to raise even 50% of this capital. of smaller flates or Janta flates for the Further the running cost of Rs. 1 \Veaker Sections of the society. No new crore per year cannot be recovered scheme is being prepared. from Hindi/Indian language sub. scribers. (b) Does not arise in view of reply to part (a) above. (ii) On the other hand, if Indian Languages service is added to Impact of Rural Development ProgJammes infrastructure of an existing news on the Rural Economy in West Bengal agency, the additional annual cost will be only Rs. 50 lakhs per 3991, SHRI BHOLA NATH SEN: year. There wiJl be practically Wi}) the Minister of AGRICULTURE no capital cost. This level of AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be annual expenditure can be manag .. pleased to state: ed both by the newspapers and other subscribers like AIR and Doordarshan. If, however, there (a) whether the rural development is stiU any deficit the news agency programmes sponsored by the' Central concerned cail bear it. Government since 1979-80 have made any impact on the rural economy in West Bengal ; The Government has not yet taken a final view on these recommendations. It (b) if so, the details, thereof; and was the view ,of the editors and proprie.. tors of the leading language newspapers (c) the impact of such programmes that it is not possibJe to revive the exist. . in West· Bengal as compar~d to the ing two Hindi news agencies namely impact of such programmes iti other Samachar Bbart j . and Hindustan Sarna- States and Union Territories ? cbar. THE MINISTER OF STA TE IN (c) It is open to the employees to THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL seek redressal under the laws/rules gove DEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL roins their service conditions. CHANDRAKAR) :. (a> to (c). T~ 261 Writtell Answ~,,, SRAVA~A 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answe,." 262 major rural development programmes reported changeover from low duty of this Ministry being impJemen ted in crops like millets to high duty crops West' Bengal are Integrated Rural like paddy. According to a few impres Development Programme (IRDP)" National sions, the average increase in productivity Rural Employment Programme (NREP) •. has been of the order of 25 4 % in the Rur~l Landless Employment GU,arantee case of Purulia as against 240% in Programme (RLEGP), Drought Prone Phulbani and 234% in Palam~u. Aeras Programme (DPAP) and Land Reforms. The Ministry has not con Under NREP, DO evaluation studies ducted any evaluation on the impact of have been completed' so far. However', these programmes on the rural economy the objective of the programme was to in West ,Bengal as such. Evaluation generate 300-400 million mandays of studies of some of these programmes employment in rural areas every year, and periodical. reports throw some light simultaneously creating durable assets on impact of these program'l1es on to strengthen rural infrastructure and rural economy including that of West improve the nutritional standards of the Bengal. Two major evaluation studies poor. As far as West Bengal is concerned, of IRD P have been conducted one by 138.35 million mandays of employment the Plan Evaluation Organisation (PEO) was generated under tbe programme and the other by N ABARO. Both during the Vltb Plan period as against these studies included sample households 1774.37 million mandays of employment from the districts of West Bengal. generated in the country as a whole. According to the study conducted by Besides, a laf!~e number of assets have the F.E.O, 49.4% of the sample also been created. RLEGP was introduced households have crossed the poverty only in August, 1 983 and it is too early line while as per the NABARD study, to assess its impact on the rurat economy. this percentage is 47 State-wise figures of households having ~rossed tbe poverty line have not been indicated in these As regards land reforms, the total studies. However, the coverage of ceiling surplus land distributed in West beneficiaries during the 6th Plan period Bengal since 1979-80 was 1,10,369 was 71.38% of the target in' West acres as against 9,99.796 acres for tbe Bengal l 7 .1 7 lakh families assisted as country as a whole. against the target of 1 0 lakhs). The All-India figure for the VIth Plan is 16.55 Modernisation of conventioDal rice million families assisted a target of- 15 milling industry million (i.e. an achievement of 109%). 3992. SHRIMATI JAYANTI P~T A research.cum-impact study _on soil NAIl{: WiUtbe Minister of FOOD AND conservation measures adopted uD.der CIVIL SUPPLIES be pleased to state: DPAP was made by the Operation Resea;ch Group Bbubanesbwar in 19805 (a) whether Government have taken in a few districts of Bihar, Orissa and steps for the modernisation of con West B!ogal. As per the fiodings of ventional rice milling industry in the this study 94% of the beneficiaries in country; Purulia (West ~engal) and 90 % ,each Phulbani (Orissa) and Palamau (Bihar) (b) jf so, the Dumber of conventional reported benefit from soil conservation, rice, mills modernised so Car ; scbemes by way of covservation of Callow lands for cultivation and change in cropping (c) how many, of sucb conventional pattern 6 of farmers in Purulia (as % rice mills in Orissa have been brought against 18% in Phulbani, and 16% in under the -above modernisation pro Palamau) are reported to have been gramme; and raisins crops particu.larly in areas Iyi~g fallow previously. 49% of farmers In PuruUa 52% in Palamau 20% in Phulbani ( d) tbe details tbereof·? 263 Wrllten AnswtJrs AUGUST 19, 1985 Written AlllWers 264 THE MINISTER OF .. FOOD AND (b) ·Yes, Sir. CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRBNDRA SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. (c) The master has been under examination. (b) As per information presently available about 7.6 tbousand conventional rice mills bave. been modernised. (d) No, Sir. (c) and (d). 164, out of which 139 are huller-cum-sheller and 25 are CLUSA oilseeds project sheller type of rice mins. Utilisation or land by Dbarti,a Kala 3994. SHRI CHINTA MOHAN Kendra etc. Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be 3993. SHRI D.P. YADAV: Will pleased to state : the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pleased to refer to the reply given (a) what was the best productivity to Unstarred Question No. 3693 on of various vegetable oil seeds as compared 19 March, 1 9 84 regardi~g utilisation of to the present productiviJy, including land by Bhartiy Kala Kendra etc. and state: coconuts; (a) whether it is a fact that even (b) whether under CLUSA oilseeds 'though it had been stated in the above project, there was to be yearly improve. answer that no penalty bad been imposed ment in productivity in the States to be on Sangeet Bh~rati for constructing 906 covered and if so, year-wise fjgures for SQuare feet of residential area, a penalty oilseeds crops in the States covered since of Rs. 34H9734 bad in fact been imposed CL USA started; , on Sangeet Bharati as early as March 1981 for constructing only 906 square feed of residential area against the (c) whether instead of concentrating Permissible limit of 15877 square feet on groundnuts and a few other oilseeds and the institution had already paid as pe-r approved CLUSA project in the Rs. 271 S3 in instalments. States to be covered, attention is being paid to new crops 1ike Soyabean and (b) whether a representation had the States not included earlier are now been made by Sangeet Bharati in April, being covered and if so, reasons for 1984 for refund of the amount paid; changes made; and ( c) if so, decision taken thereon and (d) whether any evaluation has been done by the Nodal Ministry and the Planning Commission on CLUSA project (d) 'whether any reply has since been and if so" resu1ts thereof? sent to the Sangeet Bharati in this regard? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BfIA DEVELOPMENT. SHRI CHANDULAL G,AT) : (a) The various charges (:HANuRAKAR) (a) The "best -claimed were in acco.rdance with the productivity of various oilseeds since instructions. in force and the policy ()f start of the National Dairy Development the Government at that time whereas by Board's (NDDB) project for ., 'Restruc March, 1 984 the Government polky in .uring t:dible oil and oilseeds production this regard had undergone a' change.. and marleting" oi 1 ~79-80 Qnd ttc present" '265 Written 'Answen SRAVANA 28.1907 (SAKA) Wrltt~1I Aruw." 2 6 6 productivity are given below :- Crop Best Pro- Present Pro- ductivity ductivity· (Kgjha.) (Kg.jha.) Groundout 972 953 Rapeseed 659 659. . Mustard Soyabean 741 716 Sesame 283 283 Safflower 586 SS6 Sunftower 564 401 Niger 294 294 Linseed 300 300 Castor 639 639 Cocount S S 31 (number 5084 (number of nutsjha.) of nuts/ba.) *Presently the latest crops production estimates are available for 19'83-84.; (b) It is incorrect to call the NODB's has great potential for increasing pro.. project on oilseeds and vegetable oil as duction of groundnut. CLUSA oil seeds project. In fact this project is being run with assistance (d) The last evaluation of the from Cooperative League of USA NODB's project on oilseeds and vegetable (CLUSA) and the Cooperative Union oil has been carried out by a joint team of Canada (CUC) in seven states viz: consisting of Cooperative League of Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Andhra USA (CLUSA)/United States Agency Pradesh" Tamil Nadu, Orissa,. Mahara for International Development/Govern sbtra and Kamatak a. This is not the ment of India/National Dairy Develop only project/scheme intended to increase ment Board in 1983. The main productivity of oilseeds in these states. recommendations made by the team are Other schemes by Central/State Govern as under:- ments are also being implemented for this purpose. Besides, the productivity of oilseeds crops is also affected by a t. Precedure for licensing of number of factors such as irrigation, processing facilities may be diesel and po\\er supply, weather con streamlined. ditions etc. 2. Centralised market analysis and (c) It was envisaged under the project forecasting fUDClJonS may be to con{;entrate in the first place On developed. groundnut production areas. Other !llajor sources 'of oil such as cotton seed, sunflower etc. were aJso to be handled 3. The project strategy may be to by the project. Madhya Pradesh has stabilise year to ye3r yield at a been included under the project as it modera te level in, rainfed' areas has potential foc soybean development. rather 'than trying to suhstantially Ljke .. wise Orissa was also included whiph, increase annual yields. 267'··.. Written Ans'.. er~ AUGUST 19, 1985 Written 4nsW",8 268 4. Society~Seocretaries shou1d be given Policy for Grants to AgrIculture ~d~quate training to perform their University byo leAR functions. 3995. SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN 5. Where'" it is 0 necessary to staff Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE agricultural ~ positions with non AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be agricultural: candidates, intensive pleased to state : and formal training in agricultural subjects shouldJ be arranged for (a) the policy (or releasing financial them. aids by Indian Council of Agricultural Universities; 6. There must be a firm commitment on the part of the State Govern. ments and the NDDB to place (b) whether it is -released Statewise well qualified people in the upper or direct to the exist~ng agri:ulture level maDagement positIons of universities in tbe States; and the federations and to keep these (c) tbe assistance released to Jawa people to their positions at least harlal Nehru Agriculture University, three to four years. Jabalpur vis-a-l'is other Agriculture 7. State federations should be divided Universities for the last five years? in to geographical regions and the processing plants Manager THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE should be given semi-autonomous DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP. jurisdication within their area. MENT (SHRI CHAN°DULAL CHAND RAKAR. : (a) The Education Division 8. The movement of raw material of the Indian Council of Agricultural or finished products across regions Research gives financial assistance to shou Id be decided at federation State Agricultura! University, under two beadq uarters. schemes namely (i) "E~tablishment and Deve)opm'!ot of Agricultural Universities" _ 9. Larger plants may be appropriate and (ii) '·National Agricultural Research in irrigated areas where pro Project" • duction, procurement and optimal capacity utilis_ation are more (i) Under the scheme "Establisment certain. and Development of Agricultural Universities" the financial assistance is 1 O. The _ State federations should giveo quaHty improvement in educatioD. gradually reduce the use of The need for funds for Agricultural NODB procurement support Universities for their development during and being utilising to tbe extent the Vlth Plan was assessed by a Visiting possible the commercial vehicles Team appointed by the Indian Council for procurement. of Agricultural Research and aliocatioos were made to the State Agricultural 11 • Procurement be conducted round Universities on the basis of the Policy as the year. given below : S. No. Policy Financial ceiJiog duriog VIth Plan 1. One Agicultural University in the State. Upto Rs. 3 erores per University 2. Two Agricultural Unive_rsities in the State. Upto Rs 2.50 crores per University 3. Three Agricultural Universities in a State. Upto Rs. 2 cfores per University. 4. Four Agricultural Universities in a State. U:pto Rs. 1 SO crores o per University. ------26!? Written Answers SRAVANA 28, 1,907 (S1KA) Written Answ~r8 270 -_ (ii) The Policy fOllowed in gIVing consideration the existing resources. financial ass'rstance to Agricultural" Universities under the scheme "National (b) The amount of assistance is Agricultural Research Project" is that released to individual Agricultural the Project submitted by the Agricultural Universities and not to tbe State. Universities are appraised by a Committee ,(c) The financial assistance given constituted by the Indian Council of to ~ the State Agriculture Universities AgricuJtural Research. The appraisal under the above two schemes are Report is th-en approved by the Inter enclosed. The release made to the Disciplinary Scientific Panel and finalty Jawaharlal Nehru Agriculture University, approved by the Project Funding JabaJpur under the scheme "Establishment Committee (P F.C.) of the Indian Council and - Development of A-gricultural of Agricultural Research. On an average, Universites" can be seen at Sl. No.. 8 Rs. 5.00 crores were allocated- to each co1umn 9 of the Statement-I given below Agricultural University in tbe State and under the scheme "National Agri duriog the YUh Plan period to meet cultural Research Project" at SI. No 4 the agriculture needs of the research column 4 & 5 of the StateII?cnt-I1 given requirements of the Project taking into below. 271 Written AlUWers A~GUST 19, 1985 Written t4nswet., 27l o o o o \C 00 o. o. . o. co. .... \0- 0\" 00 o .... ('I") o to -00 0\ 0\ N f"') ~ N C""I N co o co - -0. o 00 ~ \0 N o .... 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W s:J till '.,c :a ~ .. t2... .. ~ ... 0 '0 8 "" >. . ~ ~ =.. ::s :3 .. <. ~ ~ .t: < ~ ell ~: -DI .. .. ~ .. :a :i ::i . ::i >" :; ell ~. 0 .( w· < <. > < ::i .c < ., ~. :) ·z «i c· fIi ti ..... ::sa < ~. ~ ci ~ ~ 0 Z C;; as . . . r--. . . =. . o· N ri ~ ..; V\ 'C> 00 0\ .. - ...... C"'t N N 275 Written .41UWe'3 AUGUST 19,1985 Wrltrm Answers 276 Statement-II Abstracts of Commitments and Releases to state Agricultural Universities under the scheme U National Agricultural Research Project" (N.A.R.P.) & (Rupees in lakhs) S. No. University Commitments Release Actual on site up~o 31.3.85 expenditure upto 31.3.85 1 2 3 4 5 1. H.A.U. 285.67 224.80 182.45 2. A.P.A.U. 592.48 506,81 454.18 3. G.A.U. 504.69 438.21 41~.26 4. J.N.K.V.V. 499.10 334.59 243.01 . 5. U.A.S, 421.57 284.16 253.92 6, K.A.U. 433.04 318.73 199.75 7, P.A.U. 202,36 106,85 73.14 8. S.U. 456.78 289.64 196.38 9. T.N.AU. 486.13 291.88 177.66 10. O.U.A.T. 346.91 117.01 75,83 11. A.A.U. 315.04 41.37 22.28 12. R.A.U. 97.62 34.26 3.58 13. B.A.U. 207.73 14. H.P.K.V.V. 354.75 120.02 52.51 15. C.S.A.U.AT. 193.53 24.20 7.10 16. G.B.P.U.A.T, 331.59 18.15 10.42 17. N.D.U.A.T. 62.76 7.13 0.84 18. M,P.K.V. 175.64 15.88 15.28 19. P.K.V, 87.93 20.28 8.51 20. M.A.U. 140.73 9.73 8.16 21. K.K.V. 160.99 24.18 9.32 22. B.C.K.V.V. 23. I.A.R.I. 125.00 9,51 9.51 24. N.A.A.R.M. 90.02 28,56 28 5'6 25. PROJECT UNIT 27.25 45.77 45.77 ------__..., -~.,_,_,------..----- 6535.51 3311.72 2491.42 277 Written Answers· SRAVANA 2·8, 1907 (S.,.4KA) Written ~nswer8 278 Recognltioo to Janata Mazdoor THE MINISTER OF STATE OF Sup THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJ~AH): (a) and (b). Yes. Sir. 3996. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Will tbe Minister of LABOUR be pleased to A copy of the letter addressed to Fi state : nance Minister was received. In this letter besides various other issues, tbe (a) whether recoanitioo has not been following labour issues have been accQl"ded to Janata Mazdoor 8aogb by raised: the National Eastern Callories Ltd. tbough 6000 coal workers of Ledo (i) Poor workers have to pay hugo Margherita area in Upper Assam (Dibru amounts for going abroad. . garb District) joined it last year ; (ii) Workers are not paid wages ac cording to employment COD (b) whether attention of Asstt. La tract; and bour Commissioner of the Centre Labour Department Gauhati. has been drawn to tbe suspension of many workers and office Ciii) Young girls taken as domestic bearers belonging to Janata Mazdoor servants are used for immoral purposes. Sangh; and (c) Emigration clearance was stopped (c) if so, the action taken thereon ., in respect of construction companies against whom there were complaints for THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE exploitation of labour and permission MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. was restored only after outstanding COID ANJIAH): (a) to (c). According to plaints were resolved. the Ministry of Steel, Mines & Coal, it is not a fact that 6000 coal workers [English] of Ledo Margberita area in Upper Declaration of Film Production .... Assam joined the Janata Mazdoor· Sangh Tbeatre CoDStiuctioa as Small which is not a recognised Union. Cases Scale ludustry relating to suspension of 4 workers is under conciliation by the Assistant La 3998. SHRI ZAINAL ABBDIN: bour Commissioner (Central), Gaubati. Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING be pleased [Translation] to state: NOD-Payment of Wages to tile La Foreign bourers in Countries (a) whether his Ministry iSsued a cir cular to the State Governments requesting 3997. SHRI RAM BAHADUR tbem to declare Film Production and . SINGH: Will tbe Minister of LABOUR Theatre Construction as small scale in be pleased to state dustry so that institutional finance might be available to these lecton of Film (a) whether it is a fact that some Industry ; Members of Parliament had written a letter to bim OD. 7 JUDe 198 S regarding (b) if so, whether the issue has been condition of labourers working in foreign countries; taken up by his Ministry witb the Ministry of Industry to accord recopitioD to tho entrepreneurs having registration certi (b) if so, the contents thereof; and ficates issued by the State OOYe!1llDeDts . to this effcct; (e) details of the action taken in tbe matter ? Cc) if DOt, the reasons therefor j and 279 Written Answer" AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answe,., 280 (d) whether' his" Ministry propose (b) the further action proposed to be .fOiUke any expeditious steps in tbis taken in the matter of final settlement of regard? compensation in the above referred dis puted cases ; * I THE MINISTER OF -STATE OF THE (c) whether some of the lands of the MiNISTRY OF INFORMATION AND original owners had been transferred by BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD registered Power of Attorneys; and GIL) : (a) No 'circular has been issued to the State Governments recently to declare (d) if so, tbe facts thereof? film production and theatre construction as' snial) scale industry. However, in February, 1984 the Ministry of Infor THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND mation' and Broadcasting bad sent a HOUSING (SHR.I H.K L. BHAGAT) : of lotter ·to~the State 90vemments to consi (a) The details disputed cases are der declaring film production and theatre given in the st a temen t below. construction in *their States as small Scale industry 'industry' as bad already been (b) The cases mentioned at Serial done by some of the State Governments. No. I to 9 have been sent to the Court or ·Add). District Judge on the dated (b) to (d). No letter ha~ been issued shown, along with the details of record by the Ministry of Informa tion and Broad ed owners; disputants and the amount of casting to the Ministry of Industry to compensation. The payment in such 'a«Ord recognition to the entrepreneurs cases will be made by the Court of Addl. ~aving registration certificates issued by District Judge after examining the evi the 'State GOvernments to the effect dence Tela ting to the claims. Reeol ded However, a letter bad been addressed t~ owners at Serial No. 18 to ] 4 have not tbe Ministry of Industry to recognise film applied for compensation. Persons otLer production and theatre construction as a tban the recorded owners have also sub small scale industry at the Central Govern.. mitted their claims against the same land ment leveJ. in response to notice under Sec, 9 and 10 of the land Acquisition Act, 1894. Since no application was received by Delhi . Fimil Settlement of Compensation for Administration from any of the Laud the Acquired in ViIJage claimants for pa) ment of compensation Garonda by DDA after the award was announced, the amount of compensation has been kept 3999. SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRA... in the office of the Deputy Com SAD: Will the ·M·inister of WORKS missioner on account of dispute. These AND HOUSING be' pleased to refer to cases will be examined by th:At office the reply given to Unstarred Quesdon after receipt of applications from the No. 1937 'on 5 August, 1985, regard ... claimants, 'ing the land acquired by DDA .in village Garonda and sta te : . (C) No such case is reported to have '(a) the details of the disputed cases come tv the notice of the Deputy Com... as referred to in reply "given to part (a) missioner, De'lhi Administration. including the names of original owners and/or tra~sferees thereof; (d) Does not arise. 281 Written Answen SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 282 o N o 0\ 00 00 00 r- ---0'\..._ ...... -- In- M- --In \0-- '" -'" ---~- N \0- - N -- 00 c c C c: C2 c c C2o o o o o o o o I I I • oI o o o• o o• oI o '0 "0 "0 '0 "C "0 '0 '0 I I I I I • • o ... ~ ...... 0\ o c \0 00 ::s I I I 00 ...... -N l/"') o 00 · ...... 00 8 N '"r o < ~ \Q N r- I I I , I I ,.... o o o o o o o• - '0 U "C '0 '0 '0 '0 "0 I \0 I I I • • <-\0 00 tU ~ o 00 o 00 o ~ o o I .... o ... I I o I I ~ ....• - I -V < o 0'\ ~ o - l/"') o N r 0'\ \0 00 o oo 00 o 00 ~ ~ ~ ~ v ~ o ..Q_ - C c...0:; C\'S CI) ~ ~i5 z ..c tf.l co o Co c u o .;; o o co '0 .... o N c C ce 0u.; ~ en ::c ::s ::s .c o ·2 U ..c: o· :r: ..c "iiU ..c Q U .... 00 Q\· 283 Written An8WeJ'lI AUGUST 19. 1985 W,itten Answers 284 C~c...QJCIo CIS 0 .c .- ~iit .... ClSCI~ rnS .2 0 c .. ~ ::s C,'':: CIS ~.c Co Co to E CI Q_~ I as~ aro." CI 0 8'- • 00 ~ • I o 8..t:: .-cdrn C 8 0 0 Q8~uc-- e "0, "'0 Q(,) 0__0 ~ 8. _ 0 • c .... §. 0 8 i"!! 0.2 ... .;38..w~ 0\ ..... 'IIII:t ~ ...... f") "'d" -.:t I 0 I t N• N• N r- I"'- .... "0 0 0 .... 0 N ~ ... 00 ~ ..... , o• o• o• o 1 "C "C o "'Q• "C.. • • '0• o \0 N N f"'\_ ..... o, o o -0 • o• • I o o o· 00 NM .", ('f') ('f') ." In 0\ <:) 0\ 0\ --\0 00 0 ." f") ff') """ ~ ~ ~ .c > eu -0 Q Q C:ii cd • ·s .. -~,g ~ .. 0 0• 0• c 0 ... "0 "t:J "'Q cd .3~ • • · ~ ..c. -e rI.I UJ, ._ ... .._ ..c ::f C =' co CIS -CIS CIS ~ W i3= .~ ...u ~ e "'0 • oS' CIS e c N g CIS c: e o~ .c as {I.l :2 ..c ~ :a., Q . ::s . -a -a .c .c -a UJ fIl ~ rI1 til o· ...... N ...n ...~ 28S Wrtnm Answ"s SRAVANA ~8. 1907 (SAKA.) Written A1I8Wers 286 Exploitation of Child Labour in Car will benefit private constructors at the pet .lBdustry and Match Industry cost of DDA ? 4000. SHRI YASHWANTRAO THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN GADAKH PATIL Will . the Minister TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA.. of LABOUR be pleased to state : GAT) (a) No, Sir. (a> whether Government are aware (b) and (c). Do not arise. that cb ild labour is being exploited by Carpet In dustry in Mirzapur, J&K Non-Payment of Provident Fund Arrears and Match Industry in Sivakasi ; and to Tea Garden Workers in North Bengal (b) if so, the steps being taken in the 4002. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Will matter? the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state : THB MINISTER OF STATE .oF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. (a) whether Government are aware of ANJIAH): (a) and tb}. Enforcement the fact that the tea garden workers of of the provisions of the Employment of North Bengal are not gettil"g their provi Children Act, 1938, which regulates em ... dent fund arrears despite several memo ployment of children in several industries randa; including carpet and match industries, is the responsibility of ttie Stat~ G~vern (b) whether be has also received any ments concerned, However, Government such memorandum in this regard; is also preparing pilot projects in Mirzapur-Bhadhoi area of Uttar Pradesh and Sivakasi area of Tamil Nadu for im (c) if so, the details thereof; and proving the working and living conditions (d) the steps taken to settle the provi of child workers with a view to ultimately dent fund arrears? eliminating exploitation of child Jabour in these areas. THE MINISTER OF ST ATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. Cbanges in Condi!ioBS of Auctioa by DDA ANJIAH): (a) According to the provident fund authorities, it would not 4001. SHRI C. SAMBU be correct to say that the Tea Plantation Workers in North Bengal are not getting SHRIMATI N.P. JHANS[ their provident fund. The claims of the LAKSHMI: outgoi~g members are being settled with SHRI BALRAM SINGH utmost promptitude, provided tbe claims YADAV: are complete in all respects and the SHRI RAMASHRAY PRA contributions due from the employers SAD SINGH: have been received. In cases where the employers have not paid the full amount Will- the Minister of WORKS 'AND of contributions, the claims are settled .HOUSING be pleased to state; by mak ing payment of the amount of employers' share actually received and the emp1oyees' share in full (including (a) wheth~r Government have chang the amount un realised from the ~m - ed the conditions of auction conducted ployer). Action is also being taken to by the Delhi Development Authority; realise the outstanding amount frem the defaulting employers and to pay tho (b) if so, what are the changed condi. balance, if any. - tions and original conditions ; and (b) and (c). A memorandum demand (c) whether the changed conditions ing the openiog of a Sub-Regional office 287 Written tfnswos AUGUST 19. 1985 Written Answer8 288 . at Jalpaiguri bas been received and the bullocks, etc, are still in use in large Dum some is under examination. bers which need to be improved; aBd (d) The positio~ is as stated against (b) if so, the names of such states, and. improvements being· ~made by part (a) of the que~tio[J. Government in this regard·? {Translation] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Use of Old Fashioned Method for DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE- Agricultural Activitjes. LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a). Yes, Sir. 4003. SHRI R.M. BHOYE: . Will Government of India undertake from the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND time to time a census of livestock and RURAL DEVELOPMENT. be pleased to associated major anima] drawn equipment state : 1ike bullock carts and rahats. (a) whether Govemr;nent have identi (b) The statement given below gives ~ed the places where old and manmade information based on the 1972 & 1917 bullock carts, 'Rahats' used for drawing censuses. Improved designs of bullock water from wens and fodder cutting carts, improved rahats, and chaff cutters machines propelled by buffaloes, camels, have been developed and tried. Statement Bullock and .\fanually opprated Implemtnts < Carts Persian Wheel (Ra~at) ---....-.------...... _.-.--- 1972 1977 1972 1977 2 3 4 S Andhra Pradesh 14,29,000 14,21,400 38,000 31,600 Assam 1,10,000 1,04,400 Bihar 7,75,000 7,13,600 53,000 52,000 Glljarat 8.18,000 7,58~400 6,000 2,700 27,000 15,700 Haryana 3 64,000 -3 1 24,400 Himachal Pradesh 3,000 2,800 1,000 800 Jammu & Kashmir 1,000 1,000 Kerala 16,000 15,000 5,000 6,100 Karnataka 6,75,000 6,77,300 34,000 22,300 Madhya Pradesh 23,22,000 24,22,500 1,01,000 1,25.700 Maharashtra 15,21,000 14,94,600 3,000 1,500 Manipur 20,000 20,000 ,~eghalaya 8,000 18,800 Nagalaod N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. Oriua S,87,000 2,09,200 200 Punjab 2,03.000 3,32,400 51,000 32,500 ,,289 Written AIf81INrI SRAVANA 28. 1907 (SAlCA) Written .... ".",.." 290 1 2 3 4 5 Rajasthan 8,44,000 8,87,000 69,000 66,000 ·Tamil Nadu 5,95,000 6,30,500 1,000 900 I. Tripura N.A. N.A. Uttar Pradesh 22,31,000 22f 91,300 2,49,000 2,30,600 West Bengal 3,31,000 3,31,000 Andeman & Nicobar Island N.A. N.A. Arunachal Pradesh 600 Chandigarb 1,000 600 200 Dadar & Nagar lIaveli 2.000 Delhi 4,400 700 G08, Daman & Dieu 2,000 1.800 100 Lakshde ep Mizoram Pondicherry .4,000 3,600 ------_._.._ ----- Whole India 129,60,000 126,69,800 6,38,000 5.66,400 [English] Powder so as to help Madhya Pradesh Non.Supply of SMP by IDC to States Increase tbe per-capita availability· of Milk; and 4004. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE (e) if not, the reasons thereof 7 AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be plea .. sed to state: THE MINISTBR·OP STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE. (a) whether Indian Dairy Corporation LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL bas decided not to allot Skimmed Milk CHANDRAKAR): (a) The Indian Powder to milk supply schemes establish-, Dairy Corporation (IDe) decided that ed in smaller towns during 1 985, if so, issue of skimmed milk powder should be the reasons tbereof; considered upto 5000 tollDCS durin.1 summer months of 1985 to the liquid (b) whether Indian Dairy Corpot' milk plants under difterent Federations ation has also stopped tbe allotment of who have significant quantity of locaJ Skimmed Milk Powder to milk supply distribution or liquid mille and likely to schemes established in Tribal areas; suffer during summer months. IDe haa supplied some quantity of skimmed milt powder to such liquid milk plants durin. (c) whether this has forced the State 1985. of Madhya Pradesh to purchase Skimmod Milk Powder from open Market at very (b) No, Sir. high rates as compared to those offered Indian Dairy Corporation; (C) No report to this effect bas been received from the State Government (d) if so, whetber IDe will reconsider However, the Indian Dairy Corporatio~ its policy of allotment of Skimmed Milk (IDe) bas already allotted 130 Metric 291 Wrlnm Answers AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answer8 292 Tonnes of Skimmed Milk Powder (SMP) of service in the Station as casual em- to some Dairy Plants in the State of pJoyees or artists; and Madbya Pradesh" (d) action proposed to restore COD (d) and (e). As stated in reply to (c) fidence amongst tbem and to bring them above, the IDe bas already allotted SMP on permanent role of the TV Station or to tbe Milk Plants in Madhya Pradesh. on long term contract basis of S to 7 years. Regularisatlon of Casual Arti$ts and ProductioD Assistants in Deibi THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE DoordarshaD Kendra MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GAD· 4005. SHRI H.N. NANJE GOWDA: GIL): (a) and (b). Yes. Sir. Repre SHRI V. SREENIVASA PRA sentations from time to time have been SAD : received from casual artists inc) uding those working as production a'ssistants on Will the Minister of INFORMATION casual basis for regularisation of their AND BROADCASTING be p1eased services. These representations were to state: examined from time to· time in light of relevant criteria according to which only such casual artists as had worked for (a) whether employees working in 365 days in three consecutive financial Delhi Doordarshan Kendra as casual years during the period from I 974-75 to artists and Production Assistants have 1979-80 or for 200 days in anyone demanded for reguJarisation of their em. financial year during tbe same period are pJoyment; eligible for regularis-ation subject to avail ability of vacancies. (b) if so, reaction of Government tbereon; (c) Category-wise break-up of 28 such employees as have completed 3 to 4 (C) the total number of such em years or more on assignment basis is ployees who have rendered 3 to 4 years given below : Category No. of Employees Floor Assistant ... 9 General Assistant ... 4 Production Assistant S Film Processor 1 Carpenter 3 Painter 1 Make-up Assistant 4 Lighting Assistant 1 --- Total 28 193 W,in." .4nsw~'J SRA VANA 28. 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer, 294 (d) All the above categories of staff (c) ifso, how far it will be possible artist positions have since been converted and appropriate to control far off bran- into civil posts. The incumbents who ches and to solve tbe problems of tho fulfil the eligibility conditions would be employees; and considered for absorption against tbe corresponding civil posts subject to the (d) whether Government p~opose to suitability. encourage local people to set up Stores and Super Bazars on co-operative basis and if Dot, the reason therefor? Uoautbodsed Encroachments on Lands Allotted by DDA THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND 4006. SHRI MUKUL WASNIK. : CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SINGH): (a) to (c). Super Bazar bas SHRI RAMASHRA Y PRA not proposed to set up its branches in SAD SINGH: other parts of the country. However, it bas been suggested to Super Bazar, tbe Will the Minister of WORKS AND Cooperative Store Ltd.. Delhi to consider HO USING be pleased to state: to extend its area of operation to cover entire National Capital Region whicb (a) whether any case of unauthorised inel udes parts of Haryana, Uttar Pradesh encroachments on the lands allotted by and Rajasthan besides the whole Union the Delhi Development Authority to Co Territory of Delhi. The proposal is operative Housing Societies, , Private under consideration of Super Bazar. The individuals and even semi-Government other details regarding management, orgaDi~ations like Khadi and village control of branches, and other allied Industries Commission have come to the problems will be considered, as and when notice of the DDA and Government; and the proposal is finalised. (b) if so, whetber aoy action bas been (d) Local people are encouraged to taken to free the lands from the un set up Consumer Cooperative Stores in- authorised occupations and handl ing over cluding Department Stores popularly the pbysical possession of tbe lands in known as Super Bazar, Apoa dispute to the allouees ? Bazar, Janata Bazar, Sabakari Bazar, etc. iu different parts of the country. Tbe District Wholesale Con THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN sumer/.CentraJ Cooperative Stores as well TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. as Primary Consumer Cooperative Stores BHAOAT): (a) and (b). The infor are being assisted under· the Centrally mation is being collected and will be laid spoD~red scheme for develOpment of on tbe Table of tbe Sabba. consumer coperalives. Settiog up b"raadaes of Super Bazar i. ExpaasiOll of DDA otber parts of dae eoutry 4009. SHRI BHARAT SINGH: 4007. SHRI VILAS MUTTEMWAR: Will tbe Minister of WORKS AND Will tbe Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL HOUSING be pleased to state : SUPPLIES be pleased to state : (a) whether tbe DDA had initially (a) whether it is a fact that Super been set up mainly (or preparing a Bazar proposes to set up its branches io Master Plan for tbe Union Territory of other parts of the country also; Delhi; (b) whetber all the branches will be (b) tbe reasons why the DDA was controlled by the Delhi based Manasing allowed to enter tbe construction field and Commitee of Super Bazar; to expaDd 80 fast ; .' 295 Written Answers AUGUST 19, 198~ Written Answers 296- (c) tbe reasons wby the development issued by the Mineral Oil Workers' works of Delhi being carried out by the Union, Digboi -for settlement of their D.D.A. were not entrusted to' Central demands; aDd p.W .D. which is much older and well organised department; and (b) if so, the steps taken for imple. mentation of the agreement reached with (d) wbether the fast expansion of the contractors of I.O.C. (A.O.D.) at DDA has not diluted responsibility and Digboj in the interest of oil industry? diminished respect for rules and pro cedures to be ronowed for execution of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE works? MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) and (b). The Mineral THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT Oil Workers' Union, Digboi served a ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHA notice of stri ke on the 6th April, 1 985 GAT): Cc) what steps GO\'ernment contem sector are being settled to the extent the plate to settle the Provident funds dues contributions have been received. In to the workmen and to punish tbe addition, the employees' share of contri .. defaulters? butions unrealised from the employer is also being paid in full. c, TH~ MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) The claims of workers (b) As on 31-3-1985, tbe Jute Mills in sick an~ closed lute Mills and Textile in West Bengal and Textile Mins in Mills in \\'est Bengal, Gu;arat and Maha Maharashtra and Gujarat had· defaulted rashtra falling under the unexempted to the following extent :- Workers involved Amount in arrears (Rs. in lakh) West Bengal Jute Mills Not readily available 4,427.44 Maharashtra Textile Milts 59,638 416.77 Gujarat Textile Mills 60,733 t 14.35 (C) The provident fund authorities are Will the Minister of WORKS AND taking all possible IC~ll and penal action HOUSi NO be pleased to st:lte : in accordance with tile provisions of the Employees' Provident Funds and Miscel. laneous Provisions Act for realisation of (a) the total expenditure initially the arrears of provident fund dues and incurred on the purchase of furnishings at settlement of the outstanding claims. the Asian Game~ Village complex in New Delhi and the amount reatised pre ESI (Amendment) Act, 1984 sently and that expecfed to be reaJised. during the next round of He sale; 4012. SHRI ANANDA PATHAK· and Will tbe Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: (b) tbe reasons why this sale was (a) whether Government have receiv confined to DDA's employees only and ed any representation on the question of not 'made open to public to fetch 'better ES[ (Amendment) Act, 1984; and buyers and more n)ooey " (b) if so, what decision has been taken thereoa 1 THE MINISTER OF PARLI'\MENT THE MIN[STER OF STATE OF THE ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K L. BHA .. MINISTRY OF L!.\BOUR (SHRI T. GAT): (a) and (b). According to the ANJIAH): (a) Yes, Sir. DDA. a sum of Rs. 2.83 crore wasco origi. nally spent on furnishing the flats COD<· (b) The matter is being looked into. structe1 for Asian (James 1982. PllI'cbase of Furnishings at Asian Games Village Complex, New Delbi Some more items of furniRhin ~~ I· furniture were procured subsequently ~ to 4013. SHRI SANAT KUMAR meet the additional requirements at a con MANDAL: of Rs. 40,84,825. These additional SURI RAMASHR~Y items became surplus after -the games. PRASAD SINGH: As attempts made (or disposal of these 299 Written Answers AUGUST 19, t 985 Written AlIJwers 300 additional items of furniture/furnishings THB MINISTER OF FOOD AND to agencies such as, Defence, Health CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRBNDRA Ministry, Department of Tourism etc., SINGH): (a) and (b). Tbere has been as also can fOr tenders through press DO report either of one full waSOD of notices from the intending buyers brought foodgrains missing or of 400 bags found in very low rates, the Chairman DDA surplus at Food Storage Depot, Shakti decided to sell these surplus items costing nagar, Delhi. It was, however, found Rs. 40,84,825 to the DDA employees. that there were 1 78 bals of foodgrains in Ti'e amount recOverable was fixed at excess at Subzimandi rail head which 75% of the cost price in respect of could not be accounted for by tbe stafr unused items and 50% for \lsed items. on duty. In case some material stil1 remains un~o)d, the sale could be thrown open to (c) and (d). The officials found pUblic. responsjble for the aforesaid unaccounted ba~s were charge- sheeted . for major In the first round, an amount of penalty. Proceedings and the report of Rs. 4.28. lakhs has been rece ;ved as sale the Inquiry Officer have been submitted to proceeds from the DDA employees. It the competent authority. Additional is expected to realise Rs. 18.22 lakhs security arrangements have been enforced from the remaining items raiSing the at Subzimandi Rail Head to avoid any total sale proceeds to Rs. 2.:!. S 0 )ak hs as such recurrence. against the total original cost cf Rs. 40,84,825/- for these items. Unauthorised ConstructiOD in Delhi IrreRularities in FeI Food Storage 4015. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD Depot, Slaakti Nagar, Delhi SINGH: Win the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be pJeased to state: 4O-I~. SHRI KALI PRASAD PANDEY: (8) whether N.D.M.C. had issued SHRIMATI PATEL RAMA notice on AJka Hotel for unauthorised BEN RAMJIBHAI construction ; MAVANI: Win &he. Minister of FOOD AND (b) if so, the reasons for not demoli OVIL ~PPLIES be pleased to state : shing tbe unauthorised construction so far; (a) whether Government are aware tbat from Food Corporation of India's (c) whether large scale illegal and Food Storasc Depot. Shaktinagar, Delhi unauthorised construction has taken place ODe full wagon of wheat was found in New Delhi/Delhi without any check missiDI ; thereby disturbing all tbe plans of the Central Government; and (b) whether about 400 bap were found surplus at tbe same Depot whbout (d) if so, detajls of action taken proper record ; against tbe derelict officials ; (c) steps Government have taken so THE MINISTBR OF PARLIAMEN far to investigate into the complaints and TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K"L. BHA check malpractices at Rail Head, Subzi GAT): (c) and (d). Unautborised construc Progress in EPF, Family Pension and tion and encroachment on public land EmpJoyees Deposit Link Insurance have taken place affectiog planned Schemes in Tea ladustries of Dar. development of Delhi to. a jeeliDg And Jalpa'gurJ Distrfets considerable extent. Action is being taken against the unauthorised construc 4017.. SHRI PIYUS TIRAKY: Will tions and the persons responsible for the the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to same whenever they are noticed. Disci state : plinary action against erring officials is also ta ken as per ru les. (a) what is the progress of the Em ployees Provident Fund Scheme, Family Closinl of National Textile Corporations Pension Scheme and Employees Deposit Mills Link Insurance Scheme in tbe Tea Industries of Darjeeling and J alpaiguri District of West Bengal; 4016. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : SHRI AJOY BISW AS : (b) whether the massive demonstra SHRI R.P. DAS : tion of plantation workers was led in tbe SHRI ANIL BASU : middle of May this year against delayed payment or nOD-payment of claimed providen t fund; aDd Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased to state: (c) if so. steps taken to materialise the assurances given by Sub-Regional (a) whether the Labour Ministry are Officer, Siliguri, District Darjeeling (West aware of the move of the Textile Bengal) to the demonstrators Ministry's proposal to close down some ? of the National Textile Corporation·s mills; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ANJIAH): (a) The Employees' Pro (b) if so, the reaction of the Labour vident Fund and the other .two schemes Ministry thereto ; have so far been extended to : 1 1 tea plantations in Darjeeling and Jalpaiguri (c) whether his Ministry will al10w Districts of West Bengal. the Textile, Ministry to close down NTC mills when country is facing serious (b) According to the provident Fund unemployment problem; authorities, a demonstration was held on 3.5.1985 demanding the opening of a Sub.Regional Office at Jalpaiguri. (d) jf so, reasons therefor; and (c) A proposal for opening of a Sub (e) if not, steps so far taken by the Regional Office at JaJpaiguri is under Labour Ministry to tackle this problem 1 examination. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE Payment to Contractual Workers ia MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T .. DCCL ANJIAH): (a) According to Depart .. ment of Textiles, DO decision has yet 4018. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: been taken regarding the closure of some WiU the Minister of LABOUR be plea~ed of the mills of the National Textile to state: Corporation since the possibility of making them viable is being eKplored. (aj whether any steps have been taken to enforce correct payment to contractual (b) to (e). Does Dot arise. workers working in DCCL mines as pet 303 'Written An.rwer8 AUGUST 19, 1985 the prescribed rates announced by BCCL This assistance includes a' SUm of itself; Rs. 10.41 crores for drinking water pro grammes in tbe drought affected areas and (b) whether payment and other a~ .. it is in addition to normal drinking' water nities for contractual workers were ID schemes, like Accelerated 'Rura) Water vestigated in tbe .collieries lik.e ~laba~, Supply Progra~me. Minimum Needs Loybad and Putki Balihara proJCct~ In Programme, etc. 1985, if so, tbe details of t~ findings and the steps taken thereon; [Translation J Purchasing of land at cheap rates and . (c) whether specific allegations against selling at high rates by DDA contractols and management of Katbera washery under Control Coal Fields ~td. for violating provisions of law, by Bihar 4020. SHRI SJ.JANTI DHARIWAL : Colliery Kamgar Union in June, 1 985 Will the Minister of WORKS AND W'!re ignored by the Labour Enfor~ement HOUSING be pleased to state: Officers, Berme; and (a) whether the Delhi DeveJopment (d) if so, steps taken thereon ? Authority, after purchasing the land of farmers at very cheap price sell the same land at very high rates; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SH~1 ~. ANJIAH.: (a) to (d). Information IS (b) if so, whether an ordinary man being collected and will be laid on the canDot purchase land from the Delhi Table of the House. Development Autbority for coostructing his house at such high rates; Cantral Allocation for Water Schemes in Andhra Pradesh (c) if so, the action taken by Gove rnment in this regard till now; 4019. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA (d) whether it has been brought to ~ AO: Will the Minister of AGRICUL. the notice of Goveroment that DDA is TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT going to reduce even the present minjmum be pleased to state : land ceiliog in future; and (a) whether Andhra Pradesh Gove~n (e) if ~o, tbe proposed land ceiliol ment had sought higber central allocation and how an ordinary man will be able to far .•ater schemes; and live there and other details in this rc gard? (b) if so, full details of action taken thereon? THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT_ ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) No, Sir. After ac.. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE q u isition of land at prices determined DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE_ under thc Land Acquisition Act, the LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL Authority disposes them of after develop CHANDRAKAR): (a) and (b). The Government of Andhra Pradesh submitted ment at no-profit-Do.Joss basis, mostly at pre· determined rates. Some plots arc a memorandum in May, 1985 seeking sold in auction which do· bring reasonably Central assistance for drought relief, in. eluding drinking programmes. On tbe 100d prices but the returns therefrom are used to cross-subsidise other housing basis of the report of the Central Team and developmental schemes. and recommendations of the Hiab Level Committee on Relief thereon, a ceiljng of Land Acquisition Act has been recently Central assistance of Rs. 30.80 crores amended to provide for better compen has been sanctioDed OD 2 ~ th June, 1985. sation to land holder•• 30 S Wrltt~n Answer, SRAVANA 28.1907 (SAKA) Written A,1lIW.. 306 (b) and (C). Most of the schemes for Lock out in M IS. Greaves Cotton. and Co. allotment of residential plots have, by Ltd. and targe, catered to the Low Income an 1 Middle Income groups as also to the 4022. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Economically Weaker Sections of the Will tbe Minister of LABOUR be pleased society. For example, DDA is in the to state: process of developing about 1.17,000 plots in Rohini scheme to cater primarily (a) . whether the Nasik Plant of MIs to EWS/Janta/LIG and MIG categories. Grea ves Cotton and Co. Ltd. is the only manufacturer of Rock Roller Bits used (d) No, Sir. in Oil drilling operations by ONGC aod Oil India; (e) Does not arise. (b) whether the plant's capacity of [English] 50/60 Jakhs of rupees worth of drilling Uoautborised Construction near LPG bits per month is a big contribution to GodowD in Shakurbasti, Delhi import substitution; 4021. SHRI LAL RAM KEN: . Will (c) whether the plant has beea locked the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS out since 23 March 1985 and production ING be pleased to sta te : is at a standstill: and (a) whether following the fire in go (d) if so, wbether urgent steps are downs of LPG in Shakurbasti Delhi, Go propcsed to be taken to get the lockout vernment bad removed all unauthorised withdrawn? units engaged in the reprocessing of used oil from tbe neighbourhood of the go THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE downs to avoid any future danger of MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. fire; ANJIAH) : (a) and (b). According to Department of Industrial Development, (b) whether some such units have besides MIs. Greaves Cotton Co. Ltd•• there is another Undertaking. namely, started coming up again In the Golden Park Rampura, Delhi along the side of MIs. precision Drilling Company, Noida, Uttar Pradesh manufacturing rock roller Rail way line; bits used in drilling operations by ONGC and Oil Iodi a. The capacity created in (c) if so, details thereof; if not, rea these Units has resulted in import substi sons as to wby sucb units appear again tution. and again on the same Government land in violation of Government order; and (c) and (d). According to informa tion received from Government of Maba (d) whether responsibility will be fixed rasbtra, the lockout declared by tbe on the local police and other concerned management of the Nasik plant of MIs. officials (or failure to prevent encroach Greaves Cotton Company Ltd. OD ment of Government land by sucb un 23.3.1985 was lifted from t 3.7.1985 author ised units '1 following a settlement reached in conci latioD over the charter of demands raised THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMBNT. by tbe workers. ARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K.L. BHAGAT): (a) Yes, Sir. Projectioa of Map of lad.. oa TV 4023. SHRI DHARAM PAL SINOH (b) to Cd). The information is beilll MALIK: Will the MiQister of INFOR. cOllected and will be laid on 'he Tabje MATION AND BROADCASTING bo of the Sabba. pleased to state : 307 Written AnaWB8 AUGUST 19. 1985 Written Answ~,.s 308 (a) whether Government~s attention V1SJOn for reaular supply of t ,00,000 has been drawn to the news item appear Htres of fresh water and by improving the ing the BJilz dated J 3 JuJy, t 985 where hygienic conditions of harbours ? in it has been stated that in an advertisement of Sardar Fertilizers over THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Doordarshan, the map of India is pro DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE. jected without tbe Andaman and Nicobar LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL Islands and even tbe Lakshadweep; CHANDRAKAR): (a) AI rtported by the State Government the problem is (b) whether tbe map projected in not acute. Hindi News Bulletin, Andamans are in cluded but not the Lakshadweep; and (b) The annual fish export from Vera val and Porbander has not been (c) if so, the action Government have affected as the export figures for the last taken in this regard? three vears indicate increasing trend 0 THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (C) The schemes on supply of 0.5 MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND million gallons of water daily and BROADCASTING (SHRI V. N. GAD Fishery Terminal Division will improve GIL) :. (a) Yes, Sir. the availability of water and hygienic conditions at the harbours respectively. (b) Yes, Sir. Intensive Cotton Gro wing Program'l" es (c) The Sardar FertjJ izer advertise. ment has been withdrawn and the adver 4025. SHRI V. SOBHANADREES tiser advised to make necessary WARA RAO : amendment in the visual. Necessary SHRIMATI NoPo JHANSI action is ~lso being taken to rectify the LAKSHMI: mistake in the Logo of National Pro grame. WiJJ the Minister of AGRICt:LTURE Fisb Exports in Veraval (Gujarat) AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 4024. SHRI RANJIT SINGH GAEKWAD: Will the Minister of (a) whether it is a fact that with a AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEVE view to improving the growth of cotton, LOPMENT be pleased to state: intensive cotton growing programmes have been taken up in various States; (a) whether Government are aware that several units of the multi.crore (b) if so, details of such programmes marine fish production industry of Vera and names of major/minor cotton grow val in Gujarat ale faciD!! closure due ing States where these programmes have to the inadequate supply of fresh water; been taken up; (b) whether Government are also \ c) whether such programmes include, aware th::tt VeravaJ's annual fish exports increase in irrigated area as compared to turnover of about Rs. 10 crores is greatly the rain-fed area; affected dt e to the unhygienic conditions at the harbours of Veraval, MJngrol aod (d) if so. extent of increase in the Porbandar; and irrigated area; and (c) if so, steps taken to promote (e) details, if any I of good qualit}'j State's marine fish industry, which medium quality cotton exr:orted during accounts for 1 5 per cec t of the country's the last one year and the future prospects fish production by making necess:uy pro- of exports in 1985-8 G 1 309 Wrlnen Altfftf"! SRAVANA l8, 1901 (SAKA) Written Answers 310 THE MINISTBR OF STATE IN THB THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURB CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI SINGH): (a) Yes, Sir. CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) Yos, Sir. A Centrally Sponsored Inteo (b) and (C). No, Sir. Public pro si ~ e Cotton Development Programme is curement agencies ensure that in no case being implemented. a farmer gets for his fair average quality wheat a price less tban the support! (b) The components of programme procurement price fixed by the Govern are production and distribution of ment of India. breeder, foundation and certified seed, serial spraying against pests and diseases, Central Assistance for acquiriDg T. V. distribution of plant protection equip sets for Community Viewing Ceatres ments and demonstrations on improved in States production technology. The programme is in operation in Haryana, Punjab, Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesn, Maba 4027. SHRIMATI GEETA MUKH ERJEE: Will tbe Minister of INFOR rashtra, Gujarat, Andbra Pradeib, Tamil MATION AND BROADCASTING be Nadu, ,Kamataka, Orissa and Uttar pleased to state : Predesh, (a) whether Government are contem (c) Yes, Sir. plating to share the costs of T.V. sets for the community viewing centres in the (d) Irrigated area under cotton has Statls as tbey shared in the initial stage; increased from 13.58 lakh hectares in and 1 970-71 (year before the incl!ption of ICDP) to 22.04 lakb hectares in 1981- (b) if so, details thereof ? 82 .. (e) In 1984-85, the quantity expor THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE ted of aU varieties of raw cotton till MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND June, 1985 was 1.29 lakh bales. For BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD 1985-86, it is too early to assess the GIL) : (a) No, Sir. Except for North prospects of cotton exports. East Region for which a special scheme is under consideration. Malpract ices in Wheat Procurement by FeI in U.P. (b) Does not arise. Investigation against "Jam Sbucldh Gbee" 4026. SHRI JITENDRA PRASADA: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES be pl~ased to state. 4028. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUNSl: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIViL SUPPLIES be pleued to (d) whether any other companies (c) tbe number of Chartered foreign were caught for sjmi1~r offences for boats which win eventuaJ)y fish off the adulterating the edible oils, gbee and Keral. Coast; mustard oi1 etc. tiJl 31 March, 1985; and (d) steps Government have taken to project the Kera]a fishermen; and (e) if so, the details thereof? (e) tbe details of safeguards taken THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND a]ready? CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA SIN 4030. DR. K.G. AD1YODI: WilJ (a) whether Government have gran the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND ted cb:lTter permits or letters of intent to RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pJe.ased to various c()mpanies to brir;g foreign char state: tered fishing boats to exploit Kerala Coasts; (a) whether any study has been made to locate suitable agro-climatic regions (b) if so, the number of foreign for oil palm cultivation in Inc:a; chartered boats presently fishing off "erala Coa~t; (b) whether any proposal is pendina 313 Written A.nswers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 3 14 for expansion of oil palm cultivation in (b) Does not arise. Kerala; and Measures to IDcrease Food Production fa (c) whether the Oil Palm India Limit .. Seventh Plan ed, a public sector comp::lny will be given top priority in allotment of land in 4032. SHRIMATI JAYANTI PAT Nicobar Islands Andaman and for oil NAIK: Will the Minister of AGRI .. palm cultivation '1 CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP... MENT be pJeased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE· (a) whether a working group set up LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL by the Planning Commission has recom CHANDRAKAR): (a) Yes, Sir. mended certain measures to augment food production in the Seventh Plan; (b) In Kerala, 3705 hectares have already been planted. Another 455 (b) 'if so, the details thereof; and hectares are proposed to be further planted in Keral a to complete a total area of 4160 hectares. (c) the steps taken by his Ministry to I mplemen t those measures ? (c) The Andaman Administration has constituted a Committee for identifying THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE land for red oil palm plantations. The MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND Department of Environment. bas also RURAL DEVELOPMENT (SHRI formed an Expert Committee to carry CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) out ecoi..)gical impact assessment study and (b). For increasing foodgrain pro on red oil palm plantations. The reports duction during the Seventh Five Year of these Committees are awaited. The Plan Period, the Working Group of question of giving top priority to any Agricultural Production set up by the pa rty in alloting land. if any, does not Planning Commission for formulation of arise at present. the Seventh Plan has identified certain key issues like development of rainfed CloslIre of Publicatians , Yojna' and farming increasing production and pro 'Aajkal' ductivity in eastern regioR, increasing pro ductivity of wheat particurarly in the 4031. SHRIMATI KISHORI SINHA: central region, increasing cropping inten slty~ improving irrigation efficiency, etc. DR. G. VIJAYA RAMA RAO : (c) The Seven th Pfan is yet to be finali5ed by the Planning Commission and, WilJ the Minister of INFORMATION keeping in view the above broad frame AND· ~ROADCASTING be pleased to state : work of key issues, details of actual pro.. gramme are being formulated. (a) whether Government propose to close down several publications like Change in the Timings of News Bulletins "Yojna" and '-Aajkal" as reported in in Hindi and English Times of India dated 28 July, 1985; and 4033. SHRI E. AYYAPU REDDY: Will the Minister of INFORMATION (b) if so, reasons thereof? AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state: THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND (8) whether tbere has been a change BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD in the timingc; of the News bulletins ill GIL): (a) No, Sir. Hindi .and English in Doordarshan; 31 S Wrltt~" Annu,.8 AUGUST 19. t 985 Writt~n Answer8 3 J 6 (b) whether the time gap between the bean and gram crops for 1982.83 and two buUetins can be increased to at least ) 983-84; and 2 hours so that monotonous and repeti. tion of every item and details is Dot re (c) if so, the reasons for fixin8 Jaw peated ID a short interval; and support prices for these crops during these years? (c) whether Engligh bu1)etin can be expanded to cover more foreign news th"n THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE the Hindi bulletin? DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) The recom- THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE mendations of the Commission for Agri MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND cult ural Costs and Prices about the BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD subidisation of Wheat seeds to the farmers GIL): (a) y~s, Sir. in Madhya Pradesh and Bihar ~ad been . examined in the Department of Agriculture (b) No, Sir. The Hindi and English and Cooperation. The Commission bad new~ buUefns do not always carr), ahe mentioned in its report that the percentage same iten1s The time gap between the c( st of seeds in the total cost of cultiva two bulletins at lea~t of hours is not tiOD in the States of Madhya Pradesh and po~sible due to (i) limited time for Natio Bihar was much nlore as compared to the na1 Programme; and (ii) the earlier te'e percentage cost of seed in the total cost cast time at 10.00 p m. for Engli~h news of cultivation in the State of Punjab and bulletins was considered to be very late Haryana and had the refore recommended for the reople in the North-East where subsidisiog of the certified wheat seeds in Sun sets early. Madhya Pradesh and Bihar. Bihar Go vernment had not come up with any (Cl The Englh h News Bul1etins al formal request for the subsidy. The ready carry relatively more foreign news Government of Madhya Pradesh ap ,coverages as compared to Hindi News ploached the Department of Agriculture and Cooperation with a request that the buJletin~. burden of the subsidy a$ recommended by the Agricultural Costs and Prices Com [Translation] mission should be borne by tbe Central Recommendations of Commission for Government. Agricultural Costs And Prices The details of cost of cultivation in 4034. SHRI SUBHASH YADAV: Will Madhya Pradesh and other States were the Minister of AGRICULTURE AND obtained from tbe Commission and an RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pJeased to analysis· of the cost of cultivation in refer to the reply given to Unstarred Madhya Pradesh, Punjab and Haryana Question No. 1681 on 1 st April, ) 985 for the years 1 981-82 and 1982-83 was regarding recommendations of Agriculture made. The analysis indicates that the Price. Commi:,sions for subs'dised wheat cost of seeds in the cost of cultivatioa of seeds to farmers in Madhya Pradc:sh and wheat in Madhya Pradesh is of the same Bthar and State : order as that in Haryana and in the case of Punjab it was marginally lower but Dot substantially different. Fertiliser appli (a) whether the recomolendotions of cation on the other hand is much lower Commi~ioD for Agricultural Costs and in the case of Madhya Pradesh and it is Prices have been examined and if so, the basically on this account tbat the expendi decision taken thereon; ture on use of seeds per hectare as per centage of the total cost of cultivation (b) whether Madhya Pradesh Gove appears to be mucb higher in the case of rnment had submitted their recommenda. Madhya Pradesh. )t was accordingly I ions to the Union Government regarding concluded that tbe productivity of wbeat 4\uppcrt prices for wheat, paddy, soya. can be raiSed in Madhya Pradesh by 31 7 Written Alfswers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Written Answer. 318 substantially increasing the scientific app1i (C) the details of tbe agreement cation of agricultural inputs also besides signed with the above Association '1 seeds. Since this pUlpose could not be achieved by subsidising the cost of seeds, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE it' was decided not to provide subsidy on MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND wbeat seeds in the State of Madhya Pra BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. GAD desh. GIL): (a) An agreement for import of films of MPEAA (Motion Picture Ex The State Government have, therefore, port Association of America) group of been advised to formulate an Intensive companies was signed on 1st ApriJ., 1985 Area-specific Wheat Development Pro between MPEAA and the National Film . gramme to give boost to productivity of Development CorporatioD• wheat in tbe State. (b) None of the MPEAA films im ported under agreement signed on (b) The Government of Madhya Pra 1.4.1985 has beeD released in India desh had submitted its recommendations except one premiere show of the film CD support price of wheat, paddy, soya 'Unfaithfully Yours~. 45 films (exclud bean and gram for 1982-83 and 1983-84- ing 12 films which have been cleared .by to the Asricultural Prices Commission, National Film Devdopment Corporation now re-oam~d as the Commission for subject to evidence about production of Agricultural Costs and Prices. The State these by member companies of MPEAA) Government bad also communicated its were approved upto t 3.8, t 985 under the view on the support prices recommended above agreement. Besides 25 films are by the Commission in respect of most of yet to be approved by the N llional Film the crops. Development Corporation. (c) The support prices were fixed (c) The brand details of the agreement keeping in view a number of factors. are as foHows :- The~ include not only the cost of pro The agreement is for a period of duction of the commodity, but alsG (I) three years from I st February, factors like trends in prices, demand and J 9.)5. 'Supply situatioD, effect on generat price level and on cost of living as wc:lt as the views of various State Governments. (2) If provides for import of 75.100 films per year on payment of a fixed canalisatioo fee of Rs. 26,50 Scree.iag of Hollywood Feature lakhs per annum to NFDC in Films advance, in quarterly iostalmepts. 4035. SHRI KALI PRASAD (3) The aotlual gross film rental bil PANDEY: Will the Minister of IN lings of MPEAA will be utilised FORMATION AND BROADCASTING in tbe following manner: be pleased to state : (i) Opet"&ting expenses, i.e. all operating, managerial and (a) whether an agreement has been administrative expenses for Signed second time between and India the liaison offi ~es of M PEAA in Motion Pictures Export Association of India, import charges, pay America~ (Hol1ywood) for screening some ment .of any taxes due to the HoJJywood films in India; • Government of what so ever nature or any oth~r expen ji· (b) if so, the number of Hollywood ture cust omary or rclated tr:\ feature films screened in India so far and (he Film distribution-50~~. the number of films approved under the abole agreement and the Dumber of those (ii) Interest-free loans to quaS'i yet to be approved; Government or GoverDmeDt 3 1 9 W rlt/~n Alr8M-er.J AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answer.J 320 sponsored organisations in (b) if so, tbe composition of the cluding NFDC-l 7.5% Board; (iH) Remittances in quarterly in stalments. by fTlember com (c) if not, the deJay for constituting panies of MPEAA-15% the Board; (subject to a ceiling of Rs. 40 lakhs per annum). (d) whether tbe Board has forwarded any proposaJs to deal with the situation (iv) Various usages like produc arising from abnormal fall in prices of tion and co-production of coconut and copra; and films in India. travel and Jiving expenses.. transporta (e) jf so, the action taken thereon ? tion of employees, purchase of Indian films, etc.- 17.5%. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL [English] DEVELOPMENT \SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRAKAR): (a) and (b). Eleven Constitution of Coconut Board new members have been appointed on the 4036. SHRI K.P. UNNIKRISHNAN: Coconut Development Board. A Jist of present members is enclosed as statement. SHRI VAKKOM PURU- SHOTHAMAN: (c) Does not risco Will tbe Minister of AGRICULTURE (d) No ~uch proposal has been re AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be ceived by the Government from the pleased to state : Coconut Development Board. (a) whether coconut Board has been recODstituted; (e) Does not arise. Statement List of Members of the Coconut Development Board SI. Name and designation No. ] • Chairmant Coconut Development Board . Chairman 2. Agriculture Commissioner to the Government of India. Department of Agriculture and Cooperation, ell-officio Member 3. Director, Central PJantation Crops Research Insti. tute, ex-officio Member 4. Chairman, Coir Board, ex-officio Member S. Shri C. Haridas. M.P. elected by Rajya Sabha Member 6. Shri O.S. Basavaraju, M.P. ejected by Lot Sabha Member 7. Shri Vakkom Purushotbaman, M.P. elected by Lot Sabba Member • 8. Collector of Central Excise, Cochin Member 9. Joint Secretary, Edible Oils Division Member 321' Written A.nswers SRAVANA 28,1907 (S4KA) Written Answers 322 10. Director of Horticulture, Karnataka to represent the Government of Karnataka Member 11. Director of Horticulture. Andhra Pradesh to repre sent the State of Andbra Pradesh. Member 12. Director of Horticulture, Orissa to represent the State of Orissa. Member 13. Joint Director of Agriculture (Commercial Crops), Government of West Bengal to represent the State of West Bengal. Member 14. Additional Director of Agriculture, Pondicherry to represent the Union Territory of pondicherry. Member 15. Shri Guthala Gowda to represent the Coconut Pro cessing Industry. Member Re, ision of Cbarter Policy MENT(SHRICHANDULAL CHAND RAKAR): (a) and (b). Due to tbe 4037. SHRI DAULATSlNHJI difficulties experienced by the Enforce JADBJA: ment Authorities in implementing the SHRI BH. VIJA YA KUMAR 40 fathoms limit for operation of charter RAJU: ed vessels, the Maritime Zones of India Rules, 1982 were amended in April, 1985 SHRI V. SOBHANADREES whereby a distance limitation of 24 nauti WARA RAO : caJ miles was j ntroduced on the west SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: coast and between Nizamapatnam and Paradeep on the east coast; South of Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE Nizamapatnam the distance limitation is AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be 12 nautical miles. The 24 nautical miles pleased to state : line runs almost parallel to the 40 fatbom zone, and the depth is more than (a) the extra area that has become 40 fathoms beyond 12 nautical miles available to foreign cnlrter fishing vessels .. south of Nizamapatnam on tbe east after revising the charter policy in April, coast. In addition, some pockets having 1985 ; resource potential on the west, south-west and the east coasts have been excluded (b) whether t his extra area will not from the purview of the chartered vessels harm the interests of our fishing to protect the interest of tbe Indian industry; Fishing industry. (C) the steps being taken to ensure (c) As per the Maritime Zones Qf that no shrimp are caught by foreign India Rules 1982 tbe Chartered Foreign charter fishing vessels' ; Fishing Vessels are prohibited to under take shrimping operation for the exploita. (d) whether Government are consider tion of coastal shrimps. Violation of the ing any representation for reverting to the rules is punishable with fine as wen as 40 lathom ruJe for fore ign boats ; and canceJlation of charter permits. (c) if so, the details thereof '1 (d) No, Sir. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMeNT OF RURAL DBVELop- (e) The question docs Dot arise~ 323 Written Answ~rs AUGUST 19, 1985 Written Answers 324 [Translations] (a) whether the amount released by Irregularities in Vaish Cooperative Bank, Centre for flood relief is inadequate in New Delhi view of the loss of Rs. 670 crores suffered by State of Kerala ; 4038. SHRI MANVENDRA SINGH: (b) whether any special team has SHRI LALA RAM KEN: visited the State to assessee the damage; Win the Minister of AGRICULTURE (c) whether additional amount is AND R URAL DEVELOPMENT be going to be released to State; and pleased to state: (d) jf so, the details thereof? (a) whether complaints have been received by Government from the rnem ... THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE bers of the Vaish Cooperative Bank, DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP Daryaganj, New Delhi regarding difficul MENT(SHRICHANDULAL CHAND ties encountered by them in getting RAKAR): (a) to (d). The Govt. of loans; Kerala submitted a memorandum seeking Central Assistance for flood relief to the (b) the number of loan applications tUDe of Rs. 675.06 crores. This amount received in the during the last six months. \\as subsequently raised to Rs.743,36 cleared/uncleared. uptodate and the rea~ crores. A Central Team, consisting of sons, if any, for not granting loans, representatives of the concerned Minis separately ; tries/Departments, visited the State from 16th to 19th July. 1985 for an on the spot assessment of the situation and (c) whether loan is admissible to the requirements of Central assistance by the members serving in private companies, State Govt. to mt:et the situation, The and if Dot, the justification for enrol1ing report of the Cenlral Team has been them as members of the Bank and then considered by the High Level Commi; tce disentitling them for the benefits of being on Relief, Sanction for ceiling of Cen tra1 a member; and assistance is likely to be i~sued shortly. Central assistance is based on tbe recom (d) whether an inspection of the B3nk mendations of team~, who study the was conducted recently and certain irregu situation and requirements, Govt. of larities found and if so, the details thereof India extend a5~i~tance for relief and and if not, the reasons for not undertak rehabilitation and not cOlnpensate the ing periodical inspection to saf~guard the losses. In the meantime. a Ways & interests of members of the cooperative Means advance of Rs. 40.00 crores has bank 1 been reieased to the State Govt. for meeting the emergent expenditure. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVELOP_ [Translation] MENT (SHRJ CHANDULAL CHAND Construct ion of a Stud io in Lucknow for RAKAR): (a) to (d). The information Dissemination of Education is being collected and \ViII be laid on the Table of the House. 4040. DR. CHANDRA SHEKHAR TRIPATHI ; Will the Min'ster of INFOR [English] MATION AND B!{OADCASTING be Floods Damage in Kera!a pleased to state : 4039. PROF. P.J, KUR1EN: Will Ca) whether a studio is being built in the Minlster of AGRICULTURE AND Lucknow for dissemination of education RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to in Basti, Gorakhpur and Azamgarh the state: backward district of Uttar pradesh ; 325 Written Answers SRA VANA 28, 1907 (SAK.A) Written Answ~"8 326 (b) if so, whether this studio has not reported that there are 1 4 sites in be!n built so far; and Subhash Park and 6 in Panchsbeel Garden earmarked for parks, schools and com (c) if not, the expenditure incurred so munity facilities. 3 Parks out of the six far and likely to be incurred thereon in sites in Panchsheel Garden and lout of future ? 14 sites in Subhash Park, have been developed as grassy land. The other THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE . sites are heavily encroached upon, with MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND pucca houses for a number of years and in some cases even prior to the regulari BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N~ GAD sation of the colonies. The matter will GIL): (a) Yes, Sir. The State Govt. be considered from legal and other angles. is building a centre for production of educational programmes primarily for It is not feasible to lay down any time Basti, Gorakhpur and Azamgarh districts limit for the purpose. under INSAT scheme. Price Fixed for Skimmed Milk Powder by I.D.C. (b) and (c). Building of studio for production of educational programmes 4042. SHRI MAHENDRA SINGH: being a State Govt. project, Doordarsh'1n Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE do not have any formal information about AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be the matter. pleased to state : [English] (a) whether Indian Dairy Corporation Encroachment on Public Land adjoining has been given tbe authority to import Naveeo Shahdra, Delhi skimmed milk powder ; 4041. SHRIMATI USHA VERMA: (b) whether IDC decides the policy Will the Minister of WORKS AND and fixed price of skimmed milk powder HOUSING be pleased to state: for its distribution to various'States; and (a) whether Government are aware that land earmarked for Roads, Parks and other Public utili ty services in the (c) quantities of Skimmed Milk sanctioned Layout plan of Subhash Park Powder allotted to S.tates l State-wise and Panchsheel Gardl!n adjoining Naveen d uring I~st five years ? Shahdra, is being encroa~hed upon or have b~en encrolched for the use of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN commercial and residential purposes by THE MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE the unscrupulous elements of the area AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT and multi-storeyed commercial buildings (SHRI CHANDULAL CHANDRA- are coming up on the said land; KAR) (a) No, Sir. Indian Dairy Corporation is receiving gift sup plies of skim milk powder from European (b) if so, what measures Government Economic Community (EEC) meant for contemplate to clear the encroachmeats dairy development programme. from the said Jand; and (b) The policy for allotment to tho (c) the time by which land will be various user dairies and the price of the developed in conformity with the Lay Out commodities is decided every year by the Plan of the area 1 Indian Dairy Corporation with tho approval of the Government of India. THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT. ARY AfFAIRS (SHR[ H.K.L. BHA GAT): (a) to (c). Subbasb Park and (c) Tbe information is being collected P anchsheel Garden are unauthorised and will be laid on the Table of tbe regulariscd colonies. The MCD has House. 327 Written Anstrer3 AUG_UST 19, 198~ Written Answers 32' Import of Oilseeds mobilising resources in order to increase the irrigation potential; 4043. SHRI G.G. SWELL: Will the Minister of FOOD AND CIVIL (b) if so, the State-w~se n~mb~ of SUPPLIES be pleased to state : farmers provided with Joans and to those who were given grants, under the said (a) whether the import of oil seeds has scheme; been increasin g ; (c) the, number of farmers in Bara (b) the oilseeds imported in 1 984 in banki District of Uttar Pradesh; and terms of quantity, money and tbe countries imported from; and (d) if the farmers of Barabanki have not been benefited under the said scheme (c) the quantity of oiJseeds imported the reasons therefor with details ? so far this year? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND DEPARTMENT OF RURAL DEVE CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BJRENDRA LOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL SINGH): (a) to (c). The State Trad CHANDRAKAR): (a) Yes_ Sir. ing Corporation of India, which is the caoalising agency for the import of edible (b) Reports received so far from the oils and oilseeds, have not imported any State Governments reveal that a total oHseeds, Dumcer of about 3,70 Jakh rarmers have been provided loans and grants for [Translation] increasing the irrigation potentia] under Loans and Grants to Small F- rmers to the small and marginal farmers' scheme Increase lrr;gat ion POtential for increasing agricultural production. St.atewise number of farmers provided 4044. SHRI KAMLA PRASAD with loans and grants are indicated in the RAWAT: Will the Minister of AGRI Statement given below. CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP MENT be pleased to state: (c) So far 740 farmers have been benefitted in the district of Barabanki under the minor irrigation component of (a) whether Government have intro the scheme. duced a scheme for giving lOans and grants to small and marginal farmers for (d) Question does not arise. Statement Statement showing the number of farmers received the Loans and Grants for creating irrigation facilities under the centrally sponjored Scheme of ass;slance to small and mar!dna! farmers for increasing agricultural production -- State Number of farmers benefits .-~---- 1. Andhra Pradesh 14,513 2. Assam N.R. 3. Bihar 32,140 4. Gujarat 37,046 5. Haryana 7.573 329 W,.itten Annvers SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Wrlt/~" Answer6 330 State Number of farmers benefits 6. Himachal Pradesh N.R. 7. Jammu & Kashmir NR. 8. Karnataka 287 9. Kerala 35,371 10. Madhya Pradesh 49,102 11. Maharashtra @ 12. Manipur .."\ilL 13. Meghalaya NIL 14. Nagaland N.R. 15. Orissa 14,390 16. Punjab 8,100 17. Rajasthan t 2;671 18. Sikkim N.R.. 19. Tamil Nadu 82,361 20 Tripura 1,326 21. Uttar Pradesh 61.,689 22. West Bengal 12,000 23. UTs. 1,322 Total 3,69.897 -- ... --- -_._---.-.------.. _._----_. __ .. _. - .-._._------.------@ Minor irrigations funds being utilised for integrated watershed de-veJopment works to recharge the groundwata structure_ N.R,:=:Not reported. [English] Government propose to take to eusurc that the cultivator gets this input at Reduction in cost of Fertnizers reasonable prices ? 4045. SHRI JAGANNATH PATT. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN NAIK : Will the Minister of AGRI THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRI CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP. CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP. MENT be pleased to state: MENT,SHRICHANDULAL CHAND. RAKAR) ~ (a) There is :10 proposal, (a) wbetber there is any proposal at present, to alter the farmer-prices of under the consideration of Government fertilisers. to reduce the costs of Fertilizers substantially in order to provide a fillip (b) Fertiliser is an important input to agricultural exports ; and for increasing the agricultural productioll. Inspite of rise in cost of production of (b) whether fertiJi~ is one of the fertiliser, its selling prices have not been most important input in agriculture and revised since June, 1983, and this jf so, in order to achieve any break revi~ion was also a reduction in seiliag through in agricultural export, what steps price by 7i %. 331 Writlen Answer" AUGUST) 9, 1985 Writtt'n Answers 332 V iolatioD of safety norms by uBits Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE mSBufacturing insecticides AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state: 4046. SHRI K. KUNJAMBU Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased (a) whether attention of Government to state: has been dra~, n to the news item published in Statesman of June 27, (a) the names of units manufacturing 1985 that poverty in the country has insecticides against which complaints risen to such an extent that in Kalahandi have been received to the effect that district of Orissa, certain mothers had safety norms ~re being violated; and to sell their children so that these children and their parents may, some how, survive ; ( b) the steps being taken in each case to enforce safety regulations? (b) the details of the schemes being implerrlented in order that the inhabitants .THE MI~'HSTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF LABOUR tSHR1 of such areas may overcome such extreme poverty; T ANJIAH) : (a) and (bj. The information is being collected. (c) the name of the other parts of the country where po\'erty of such Indiao'i employed in Latin America magnitude exists and what are the and Afr iran countries schemes formulated for the arears ; and 4047. SHRI f\,1URLI DEOPA (d) whether any short term plan Will the Minister of LABOUR be pleased has been approved to provide assistance to state: without delay to Kalahandi area which is suffering from extreme poverty? (a) whether there are numerous instances of Indians taKing up employment in Latin American and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN African countries uncfer unserupuIous THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL employers and sufferIng con~iderable DEVELOPMENT (SHRI CHANDULAL persecution and are seeking Government's CHANDRAKAR) (a) The news intervention to be able to return to item published in Statesman of June 27:> India; and 1 985, has come to notice of the Govern ment of India. The story regarding sale of children by their mothers on account (b) if so, whether Government have of ~cute drought situation has been found considered any steps to ensure against to be baseless after spot enquiry by the such situations? State Government. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE (b) To alleviate the poverty in the MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. rural areas, the Central Government have ANJIAH): (a) No, Sir. taken up the following schemes : (b) Does not arise. (i) Integrated Rural Development Programme (IRDP) [ Trans/ation] (ii) National Rural Employment Poverty in Orissa Programme (NREP) 4047·A. SHRI C. JANGA REDDY: (iii) Rural Landless Employment DR. A.K. PATEL: Guarantee Programme (RLEGP) 333 Written Answers SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Written Answers 3 3 1 Total expenditure and achievements of whole during Sixth Five Year Plan bas these programmes in the country as a been as under :- Expenditure Achievements (Rs. in lakhs) IRDP 166187.74 165.• 56 lakhs beneficiaries NREP 184184.53 1 7,743 .73 lakh mandays RLEGP 38015.27 2601.8 lakh mandays (c) The National Sample Survey fast buck without any proper authority; Organisation has conducted a survey in and 1983 to estimate the number of persons below the poverty line and their percent (c) the preventive measures taken or age to population in various States. The proposed to be taken and if not, the statewise detail of this survey have not reasons thereof? yet been finalised. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF (d) The Government of India has THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION oD-going schemes for poverty alleviation AND BROADCASTING (SHRI V.N. in the country as a whole as clarified in GADGIL): (a) Yes, Sir. (b) above. (b) Yes, Sir. The State Government of Orissa have taken further steps to provide assistance (c) A committee consisting of the to the people. These include: taking Assistant Commissioner of Police, up of labour intensive works to provide Licensing as Chairman and the Pfe~ident immediate emploYment, emergency feeding of National Association of :\1otion programme. construction of cros~ bunds, Picture~ Exhibitors and Entertain7nent provision of drinking water tubewells, Tax Officer as M::mbers has b~en input subsidy to cultivators etc. constituted by the Delhi Administration to decide the reasonable cost of the [ English] spectacle which may be charge from a patron. News item captioned '3-D Glasses' 4047-B. SHRI SANAT KUMAR Acreage of jute cultivation in \Vest Bengal M ANDAL WilJ the Minister of INFORMATION AND BROADCAST 4047-C. SHRI SATISH CHANDRA ING be pleased to state: SINHA ~ Will tile Minister of AGRI CULTURE AND RURAL DEVELOP (a) whether Government attention MENT be pleased to stare the acreage has been drawn to the news item captioned of jute cultivation in West Bengal this \3-D Glasses' appearing in the IoHindustan year as compared to the last year? Times' of 16 July, 1985 ,• THE MINfSTER OF STATE IN (b) if so. whether Government have THE DEPARTMENT OF RURAL got the matter looked in the ingenuity of DEVELOPMENT \SHRI CHANDULAL the cinelna owners in capital finding new CHANDR.\KAR) : Firm reports of ways to fleece the public and made a area under jute cultivation in \Vest 335 St. correcting Reply to USQ AUGUST 19, J 985 336 No. 3960 re : Supply of Newsprint to Daily Newspapers Bengal during the current agricultural SHRI N.V"N. SOMU : But, Sir, the year 1985 -8 6 have not yet become due.. Government should .•• However the area under Jute cultivation this year is currently assessed to be MR. SPEAKER: That is what I higher than that of last year, which was am trying to do. estimated at 5.35 lakh hectares. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: In spite of the cease, fire, 500 people including women and children have been shot dead. STATEMENT CORRECTING REPLY TO USQ NO. 3960 Dt. 22.4.85 RE: (Interruptions) SUPPLY OF NEWSPRINT TO DAILY NEWSPAPERS MR. SPEAKER: Listen to me. [ English] (Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINIS rR Y OF INFORMATION AND MR. SPEAKER: Will you listen to BROADCAST1NG (SHRI V.N. GAD me? In spite of the fact that ) our GIL): In repJy to part (b) of Un motion was late and it ~as not in proper starred Question No.3 960 by Shri M.V. order, l' have asked the Minister to get Chandrashekara Murthy, I had, ina~tvert me the facts. Then 1 will consider what ently. mentioned in Annexure-l {hat the to do about it. Dumber of daily newspapers from Maha rashtra which were allocated newsprint SHRI p. KOLANDAIVELU (Gobiche during 1984-85 is 108 (One hundred thip Jayam) : Let the Government file a eight). Statement. Even today also .•• 2. This information is not correct. MR. SPEAKER: Let me get the As the neW5papers mentioned at SI. Nos. facti. 1 have talked to tile Minister and 97 to 108 were not allocated newsprint he IS getting some facts. Tben 1 will let daring 1 984-8 5 their names may be you know. deemed to ha \Ie been deleted from the said Annexure-I. SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Five hundred people, including chIldren, are daily 3. This statement could not be- laid butchered. 00 tbe table of the House earJier as the mistake came to my notice only recently. MR. SPEAKER Apart from what you are aaying, I myself on my own have asked the Minister to go into this and let '12.00 hrs. me have facts. (Interruptions) SHRI P. KOLANDAIVELU: Let him file the statement today itself. [English] SHRI N.V.N. SOMU (Madras MR. SPEAKER: If he has not got South) : Sir, I have given a notice on the facts, ho has to get the facts. If Sri Lanka issue. Five hundred Tamils there are any facts, he will let you know. were killed ••• Sit dowD. MR. SPEAKER: One minute. ( Interruptions) Your motion was very late; but in spite MR. SPEAKER: We will sec it later of that ••• 00. There is no time. (Interruptions) (Interruptions) 337 SRA\lANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) 338 MR. SPEAKER: Why are you speak SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA : ing all of you together? Shouid I submit a notice again ? . SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Har MR. SPEAKER: Why are you un~ bour): . I have given a notice last week necessarily taking my time, I have and this week also regarding frequent already told you that I have again refer. thefts of unchecked customs baggage from red it back: to him. Delhi. Airport. It contains contraband explosives .•• ( Interruptions) MR. SPEAKBR: I can't get all of SHRI N.V.N. SOMU: Sic. the Prime them into one day. I am going one by Minister is here. one. SHRI AMAL DATTA: But I gave MR. SPEAKER:. I have already notice last week. This week also I have asked him. What more do you want me given one. to do 1 SHRI p. KOLANDAIVELU : Sir, is MR. SPEAKER: Has any '~day gone it very very serious. without a discussion 1 SHRI AMAL DATTA: But, Sir. MR. SPEAKER; Because it· is serious, I have asked him. MR. SPEAKER! What can I do '1 Can you help me in this ? SHRI p. KOLANDAIVELU ~ My request is, even today also in the news papers .•• SHRI AMAL DATTA: But it re. lates to an organisation which is headed by Service people. MR. SPEAKER : Mr. KolandaiveJu, I am already seized of the si tuatiOD. I have already referred it to him. I am MR. SPEAKER: No discussion like trying to get facts. I am as as agitated this. as you are. SHRI AMAL DATTA: Sir, security SHRI P. KOLANOAIVELU: Sir, of the State is affected. we want to know the action of the Government. MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. MR. SPEAKER.: Don't be in burry. SHRI BASUDBB ACHARI.\ (Bank It takes time. I hive already explained. u:ra): What a~out my privile~e notice against the Home Minister, who bas ,SHJu N.V.N~. SOMU: We have stated in this House that tbe West Bengal waited for two yean. GoverDtneot had invoked .• j MR. SPEAKER: I koow that. But MR. SPEAKER.: I have alread, can you do with out it ? done it. You will get it. Tab your seat. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: You Don't stand in the aisle. Mr. 80z, have got a reply from the Home Minister. wb~ are you .s~dina? Get to yOUt seat. It is Dot pro~. :tdR .. SPEAl(.ER: I bave got yours also and I will further proceed on this. PROF. SAIFUDDIN _'SOZ (Data Tate your soat. mulla): May I make a submission Sir 7 339 AUGUST 19. 1985 340 [Translation1 MR. SPEAKER You mean to say SHRI VIJOY KUMAR Y ADAV that you are giving me unimportant (Nalanda): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have things to discuss 1 given a calling attention notice. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: I will look into it. You may see me in my chamber. SHRI AMAL DATTA: People are giving whatever they think important, but ultimately that which is nationally im SHRI VIJOY KUMAR Y ADA V: In portant ••• Bihar 50,000 members of non-teaching staff in the colleges and universities are on strike ••• (Interruption3) MR. SPEAKER: Yadavji, only one· MR. SPEAKER: We always do. I notice can be taken up in a day. Only always go accord ing to your advice and if one thing can be discussed in a. day. I that is unimportant, then it is bad. have no magic to have every thing dis. cussed just in a day. Please sit down. . (Interruptions) (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: Yes, Mr. Mahfooj Ali Khan. what do you want? [English] [Translat ion] SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub nagar): I think the Lok Sabha is losing SHRI MOHO. MAHFOOJ ALI its importance. . KHAN (Etah): Mr. Speaker. Sir, I have come to know that in the film pro duced by Messrs Pla)boy, Mahatma MR. SPEAKER: Why? Gandhi has been shown ti1kiI\g wine. SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Because an important report on black money was MR. SPEAKER: This issue is being discussed in Rajya Sabha, not in Lok taken up at 5 o'clock today, you can Sabha. raise this point at that time. MR. SPEAKER: It is one fact, This (English) is not the question that we are losing it SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: We is sometimes the Upper House and some should know in advance whether we are times me who are taking it UP. We are adjourning on 23rd or not. equal, nobody is senior and nobody is junior. Don't try to denigrate anybody. (Interruptions) SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY: No, no. MR. SPEAKER: No, no. We are I am not saying that, but when are you not adjourning. going to put it for discussion? PROF. SAIFUnnIN SOZ: Sir, in MR. SPEAKER: It is also being Kashmir, the Chairman of the Panthers discussed. We are always discussing Party ... something or the other and it will come its own in due course. There is no pro blem. MR. SPEAKER: What is it ? SARI S. JAIPAL REDDY: Sir, bow PROF. SAIFUDDIN DOZ: .. and the adjournment .•• some other J. & K. Assembly Members have been expelJed. Wby don't you ( Interruptions) discuss them l' 341 SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAK4) 342 MR. SPEAKER: No, no, That is MR. SPEAKER: You never try to Dot possible. understand, you ~ever try to listen. ( Interruptions) PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: I am amenable to discipline. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Why don't you discuss tbat ? You kindly bear MR. SPEAKER:· Then listen. If one word? there is any reason ••• MR. SPEAKER: No, no. I can't. ( interruptions) That is there. (Interruptions).* MR. SPEAKER: You have to understand the rules. The Assembly in MR. SPEAKER: Not allowed. Kashmir, the Legislative Assembly ••• (Interruplions )** (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: This is a State subject I it is for the State Assembly. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: You see, it is not a State subject, Sir. ( Interruptions) (Interruptions) ** PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ : This is not a State subject. What is happening in Jammu & Kashmir .•• MR. SPEAKER: My god! What is be doing? (Interruptions) PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: Nothing MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Soz, you make should be done against the integrity of much more noise that what you need to. India. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: The (Inter ruplions) point that ** gave a notice .•• (Interruptions)·. MR. SPEAKER; That is right, but there is the State Assembly. I can't do anything. MR. SPEAKER: That is all right. I am not allowing him. (Int~rruptioIlS) ( Interruptions)·· MR. SPEAKER: Look here. We MR. SPEA~R: Mr. Soz, you never have got something else. Why don't you listen. This is one weak point in )'ou. understand it ? (Interrupt;oIU ) •• MR. SPEAKER: I am not allowing MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Soz, it is him a single word. irrelevant. I am Dot allowing you. (Interruptions)·· **Not recorded. 343 AUGUST 19, 1985 Papers Laid 344 MR. SPEAKER: You are irrelevant MR. ,SPEAKER: I will find out. now. As 'I told you, once again the You give me the notice. State Assembly is supreme". I can't interfere in tbat State"," State Assembly's KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE functioD. I have given the notice. PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ: You ( Interruptions) are not interfering, Sir. I don't want you to use the word 'interfere'. MR. SPEAKER O.K. We wi]] find out. MR. SPEAKER: Then kindly sit down. (Interruptions) PROf. SAIFUDDIN SOZ But you kindly listen to me. 12.08 brs. MR. SPEAKER: No, DO. I can't. No reference can be made to any State PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE Assembly .. [Eng!ish] (Interruptions) .* Annual Report and Review on the Working of National Federation of MR. SPEAKER: 1 can't allow the Cooperathe "Sugar Factories Ltd. mention of the State ~ssembly here. New Delhi fer 1983-84 and State Simple. . ment for delay in lay iog these papers (Interruptions) THE MINISTER OF AGRICUL TURE AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT MR. SPEAKER: No, I Can't. Sit (S. BUTA SINGH) : I beg to lay on dowD. Now, Papers Laid. Shri H.K.L. the Table :- Bha8at. \1) (i) A copy of the Annual Report KUMARI MAMAT A BANERJEE (Hindi and English versions) of the National Federation (Ja4avpur): Mr. Speaker, Sir, ,Miss of Cooperative Sugar Fac :pano is a ~aga daughter. She is a student of the Jamia MiJia CoUege. Sbe tories Limited, New Delhi, bas been manhandled by two Delhi for the year 1983-84 along PoJicemen. with Audited Accounts. (ii) A copy of the Review (Hindi MR. SPEAKER Have you given and English versions) by tbe anything? Government on the working of the National Federation KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE: J of Cooperative Sugar Fac have given notice. tories Limited, New DeJhir " for the year 1983-84. MR. SPEAKER For what? (2.) A statement (~~ndi and English velsioDs) showing reasons for de. KUMARI MAMATA BANERJEE Jay in laying tbe papers nlentioD. That she has been manhandled by Delhi ed at ( 1 ) above. [Placed in policemen. Library. See No. LT -1330/85] ------._------"_-- ** Not recorded. 345 !,apers Laid SRA.YANA 28. 1907 (SAKA) . Popers LaId 346 Notificati 00 under Delhi Develop (3) S.O. 905 (E) publi~hed in Ga ment Act, 1.957 and Statement for zette of India da ted the 7 th delay in layiDg the Notification. ,December, 1984 'reg'ar~ing ma nagement of Shree Sitaram Sugar THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN. Company Limited, )laitalpur TARY AFFAIRS (SHRI H.K L. BHA (U. P.) together with a 'corrigen GAT) : I beg to lay on the Table :- dum-thereto published in Noti fication No S~O. 159 (E) in (1) A copy of Notification No S,O. Gazette of India dated the -22nd 546 (E) (Hindi and English ver February, 1985. sions) published in Gazette of India dated the 26th July, 1985 (4) S.O. 906 (E) published Gazette contaioing Corrigendum to Noti. of India dated the 7th December~ fication No. S.O. 404 (E) pub 1984 regarding management of lished in Gazette of India dated Jijamata Sahkari Sakhar Karkhana the 20th May, 1985 under sec Limited, Shankarnagar l Maha tion 58 of the Delhi Develop rashtra). ment Act, 1957. (5) S.O. 907 (E) pub1ished in Ga (2) A statement (Hindi· and Eng1ish zette of India dated the 7tb De versions) showing reasons for de cember, 1 9 S4 regarding manage lay in laying the Notification men ment of Deoria Sugar Mills tioned at (1) above. Limited, Deoria (U.p.). IPl~ced in Library. See No. LT - 1331/851. (6)" S.O. 61 (E) published in Gazette of India dated the 30th January, Notifications under Sugar Undertaking 1985 regarding management of (Taking over of Management) Act, Cauvery Sugar and Chemicals 1978 Limited, Cauvery Factory~ Patti waytaJai (Tamil Nadu). THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND CIVIL SUPPLIES (RAO BIRENDRA (7) 5.0. 62 4E) publish~d in Gazette dated the J~nu~HY, S[NGH) ~ I beg to lay on the Table a of India 30th copy each of the following Notifications. 1985 regarding management of (Hindi and English versions) under sec Rai .8ahadur Narian Singh Sugar tion 21 of the Sugar-Undertakings (Tak Mills Limited, Lhaksar (U.P). ing over of Management) Act, 1 978 :- (8) S.O. 176 (E) published in Ga zette of India dated the 4 th published in (I) S.O. 889 (E) March, 1985 regarding manage Gagette of India dated the 28th ment of Seksaria Sugar Mills November, 1984 regarding ma Limited, Babhnam (U.P.) nagement of Ajudhia Sugar Mills, Raja-Ka·Sabaspur (U .p.). (9) S.O. 23 t (E) published ill Gazette of IndIa dated the 26th (2) S.D. 904 (E) publisbed in March, 1985 regarding manage Gazette of India dated the 7th ment of Ajudhia Sugar Mills December, 1984 regarding ma Limited, Raja- ka-Sabaspur (U.P .). nagement of Keshoraipatan Sah kari Sugar MilJs Limited, Kesho (10) S.O. 232 (E) published in Ga raipatan (Rajasthan) together zette of India dated the 26rh with a corrigendum there to pub March, 1985 regarding manage lished in Notification No. S.O. ment of Jijamata Sahkari Sakhar 158 (E) in Gazette of India dated Karkhana Limited, Shankarnagar the 22nd February. 1985. (Maharashtra) • 347 Papers Laid ApGUST 19, 1985 PAC 348 (11) S.O. 233 (E) publisbed in Ga- 27th April, 1985 containing zette of India dated the 26th Corrjgendum to Notification March, 1985 regarding manage- No. S.R.O. 2428 published ment 'of Keshoraipatan Sahkari in Gazette of India dated the Sugar Mills Limited, Keshorai .. 16th September, 1975. patnan (Rajasthan). (12) S.O. 234 (E) published in (ii) ·S.R.O. 1859 published in Gazette of India dated the 26th Gazette of India dated the March, 1 985 regarding manage.. 27th April, 1985 containing ment Deoria Sugar Miils Limited, Corrigendum to Notification Deoria (U. P .) . No. S.O. ~89 (E) publish ed in Gazette of India dated (13) S.O. 235 (E) publisbed in Gazette the 12th November, 1980. of India dated the 26th March, [Placed in Library. See No. 1985 regarding management of LT-1334/85). Sree Sitaram Sugar Company Limited, Baita)pur ~ U .P.). (3) A copy of Government Resolution [Placed in Library. See No. LT- No. V. 24030/1/85 - WB (Hindi 1332j85.] and English versions) dated the 17th July, 19S5 regarding setting Employees Provident Fund (Third up of Third Wage Board for the Amendll.1ent) Scbeme, 1985 and Sugar Industry. Notifications under Employees Provi dent Fund and Miscellaneous Prov i [Placed in Library. See No. LT- sions Act, 1952 and Government 1335J85]. Resolution No. V. 24030!lj85-WB dated 17-7-1985. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE 12.10 hrs. MINISTRY OF LABOUR (SHRI T. ESTIMATES COMMITTEE ANJIAH) : I beg to lay on the Table- [English] (1) A copy of the Employees' Provi dent Funds (Third Amendment) Fifth Report Scheme, 1985 (Hindi and Eng lish versions) published in Noti ... SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI fication No. G.S R. 667 in (Bhubaneswar): I beg to present the Gazette of India dated the 13th Fifth Report (Hindi and English ver J uJy, 1985 under sub-section .( 2) sions) of the Estimates Committee on of section 7 of the Employees' Action Taken by Government on tbe re Provjdent Funds and Miscella commendations contained in the Fifty neous .Provisions Act 1952. ninth Report of the Committee (7th Lok Sabha) Oil the Ministry of Shipping [Placed in Library. See No L T and Transport-National Highways. -1333/85]. (2) A copy each of the followioS Notifications (Hindi and English versions) under sub-section (3) of PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE section 20 of the Work.ing Jour [English] nalists and other Newspaper (Conditions of Service) and Mis Tenth Report cellaneous Provisions Act 1 955 :- SHRI B.' AYYAPU REDDY (Kur (i) S.R.O. 1958 publjshed in nool) : I bel to present the Tenth Report Gazette of India dated the (Hindi and English versions) of the 349 Comm. ()n Papers Laid SRAVANA, 28, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attenti.;n 350 Public Accounts Committee on Action PROF. N.G. RANGA: For dis Taken by Govenment on the recommen cussion under Rule 193, it is two hours, dations contained in the 1 54th Report of but it goes on like this. the Committee (7th Lok Sabha) regarding Coaching Services. (Interruptions) MR. SPEAKER: You want to speak more and more. What can I do, Sir? COMMITTEE ON PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE PROF. N.G. RANOA: . Some of us are patiently cooperating with you, we go [English] on waiting till 6.30. First, Second and Third Repo rts MR. SPEAKER: I do it with the SHRI M.V. CHANDRASHEKARA consent of the House. I have got no MURTHY (Kanakapura): I beg to pleasure, you see, Sir. When you say· present the First, Second and Third Re 'We want to speak', I give you that ports (Hindi and English versions) of the time. Now jf the House does not want Committee on Papers Laid on the Table. any time, I will be happier. No problem for me. Now Calling Attention. Mr. Suresh Kurup ..•• COMMITTEE ON PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE PROF, N.G. RANGA: Even half [English] an-hour discussion takes 1-1 12 hours I • Minutes of the Sittings MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kamalnath. SHRI M.V. CHANDRASEKHARA MURTHY (Kaoakapura): Sir, I beg to lay on the Table Minutes (H iodi and 12.10 hrs. English versions) of the sitting~ of the Committee on Papers laid on the Table CALLING ATTENTION TO MATTFR relating to their First, Second and Third OF URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE Reports. [English] Reported delay in implementation of recommendations of high level com MR. SPEAKER : Now, we come to mittee on problems of ex-servicemen Calling Attention. Shri Suresh Kurup. SHRI KAMAL NATH (Chhindwara) : PROF. N.G. RANGA (Guntur): I call the attention of the Minister of Mr. Speaker, may I· make some obser Defence to the foHowing matter of urgent vation? public importance and request that be may make a statement thereon : What is the time limit for this dis cussion? On~ or two hours. Reported delay in the implementation of recommendations of high level committee on problems of ex-service. Now it is three hours of four hours. men and steps taken by Government . For HaIf-an-Hour discussion, it is One to expedite the matter. and .. a-haIf hours. MR. SPEAKER: Mr. Kamal Nath, MR. SPEAKER: If you all ~gree, have you heard the comments of Prof. we will curtail it. Ranga "1 351 Calling Attention AUGUST 19, 198'5 Calling Attention 352 SHRI KAMAL NA1:fI: I have heard men t jointly with the State Governments bim. but he was not talking on this and the Union Territory Administrations· matter. He was on some other matter. The remaining 36 recommendation; related exclusively to the Government of MR. SPEAKER: Now you are India; however, most of them required allowed 10 minutes. consultations with different Ministries and Departments as also the Planning Com mission. SHRI KAMAL NATH: He was D9t talking on my time limit. Were you, Sir? 4. Accordingly the relevant recom mendations were taken up with the State Governments as well as with the con MR. SPEAKER: It applies to every cerned Ministries and Central agencies. body from now on. In many cases references were m"ade by me personally and in other cases at ad THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE ministrative levels~ gcneralJy by the (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO); Sir, Defence Secretary. Government has always been keen to provide for the resettlement and welfare 5. In order to expedite the require'd of Ex-Servicem~n and realises the need inter-Ministerial consultations o~ th~se to resolve their difficulties expeditiously. proposals and to evolve a consensus To secure these objectives Government quickly, an Empov. ered Committee was has, over the years, designed and imple set up by the Ministry of Defence under rr.ented a wide-ranging package of in'cen the Chaii-manship of the Addition'al tives afld facilities for Ex-Servicemen. Secretary. with all oiher concerned Minis As these are already well known, I win tries represented at a senior level, in not dwelJ on them in detail to- day. terms of the prescribed procedure. 2 Despite the promulgation of, this PROF. N.G. RANGA: Very good. package. there was a feeling that the entire matter needed to be reviewed so as to SHRI P.V_' NARASIMHA RAO: ascertain what more could be done. Re The committee was allotted 3 months cognising this, Government set up in to accomplish its task The Committee March. 19'84. a High Level Committee met j times and completed its work with on the prob lerns of ex-servicemen under in the allo'tted time. Its recommend tbe Chairmanship of Shri K p. Sin~h ations were finalised at its last meetinlZ De C). the then R~ksha Rajya Mantri and held on the 9th July, 1985. n.dw the Minister of State' for personnel & Training. T~e Committee acted with ~end'able speed and presented its 6. It would be recalled that during Report to Government on the 17th the Budget Session of Parliament, I bad OCtober. 1984. The report was taken infornled the members that by the current up '(or examination soon ,after the for session I I expec~e.d considerable progress mation of the present Government Printed to have been made in the matter. 'copies of the Report have been laid.on the' table of both the Houses of Parlia 7. The foregoing narration of e~ents ment. would roveal tbat no effort has been " spar ted to ~qaJise Governmenfs ,decisions 3. As a first step, all the 68 recom on the reco~nmendatioris of tbe HLC. mendations r of the Report were scrutinised As I have .said earlier. it has been our , : ~; < ~ ,,-~ , "" " with in the Defence Ministry. Six of the aim to finalise decisions on the recom- 68 recommendations related exclusively mend~tions progressivefy, and t~ start to the State Governments and the Union implementation as soon as a recommend. Territory Admi~Jstratjoris~ Another 26 ations is accepted, rather than to await recommend~tions needed to be' accepted detisioDs eli-block on all tbe 'reoommend and implemented by the Central Goveni. ations. · '" , 353 Calling Attention SRAVANA. 28, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention 354 8. As' a result of this approach, I duals due to retire with matcbing qualifica am today in a position to say that, based tions-cum-expe'rience for particul~r Jobs in ~n the deliberations of tbe Empowered specific institutions located in a particular Committee and the consensus wbich has place and acceptance by individual ex.. been evolved by us so far. as many as 42 Servicemen would be a major task. As out of 68 re<;ommendations stand accep the proposal is not only complex to wort ted. These are listed in Annexure I to out ,but would also req uire appropriate this statement. These Annexutes have measures to amend the rules and entrance also b~en laid on the Table of the House. qualifications, as well as the possible re. In addition, 2 more recommendatjoD~ structuring of the existing cadres, tbis relating to the Rent Control Act and proposal has been entrusted to the reservations in professional courses have Ministry of Personnel and Training, for also been partly accepted. Another 3 examination and fioalisation. Thi.s re recommendations relating to the ~nsus, commendation is listed in Annexure-II joint sponsorship and procedure for the to this statement. dereservation of reserved posts, are likely to be accepted shortly. Two otber re 11. Another set of three recommend commendations relating to the main ations relates to the proposals for the tenance of a data bank and placement enactment of legislation by Parllament 'as procedure, are linked with the proposal well as State legislatures to cater to the of providing assured employment up to reo settlement of ex-service personnel the age of 58 years to every single demo under the concerned Governments, bilised person and are of a consequential appointment of an ex ... servieemen Re nature. These 7 recommendations are settlement Commission (or Commissioner) also listed in the statement at Annexure.I. and a separate Parliamentary Committee on ex-Servicemen. These issues were also 9. Thus, only 19 recommendations referred to the Ministry of Law as well as remain, on which final decisions are still to tbe DepU. of Personnel & Training, to be taken. The Empowered Committee and their views are being examined. In has completed the examination possible at view of the fact that no such enactment their level. However these recommend exists even for Scheduled CastesjScheduled ations either relate to major policy issues Tribes, it will be appreciated that the or have significant financial implications matter would require very careful con on which a consensus could not be sideration from all relevant angles. These achieved at the official level, There is three recommendations are gi ven in also a divergence of views on some of Annexure.. III to this statement. these recommenda~ions. Decisions on these wil1, therefore, take a little longer. 12. I would next like tQ refer to the As I am sure the House would like to four recommendations which propose, have some details about the major areas inter alia, that amount of Rs. 3 SO covered by these 19 recommendations. 1 crores be provided in the 7 tb Five Year will DOW briefly enumerate them. Plan to be shared by the Central and' tbe Broadly, these relate to 4 major areas State Governments for schemes for the covered in the HLC's recommendations. welfare and re-settlement of ex.servicc. men. These proposals were aJso like wise referred to the Planning Commission to. As has just been referred to, the and their view point is being examined. very firSt is the proposal that all members These four recommendations are given in of the Armed Forces be assured conti Annexure-IV to this statement. nuing employment in civilian posts imme. diately after their release and upto the age of S 8 years. It would be pertinent 13. Finally there are eleven recom to observe that the High level Committee mendations relating to modifications in has itself recognised in para 5.41 that the pension policy and terms & con there was no doubt tbat the modalities of ditions of service on reemployment. The implementing tbe suggestions would have recommendations on pensions also have to be worked out. Identification of indivi. significant financial implications. These 355 Calling Atte1ttlon AUGUST t 9, 1985 . Canilll Attention 356 [Shri p.V. Narsimha Ra01 implement these recommendations. I am have also to be viewed in the context of happy to inform the House tbat botb in tbe . possible repercussions OD tbe civil pen Kendriya Sainilc Board meeting as well as sions. Matters have been further c-omli cated by the ~pendency of litigation in in reply to my le tters, most of the State respect 'of some of these issues. The Government have in general terms assured implications of the recommendation re me of tbeir support and cooperation. I am lating to changes in the terms and con- 'ditions of reemployment and how they keenly awaiting the final outcome of the might come into conflict with the expect action taken by them and we are regularly ations of the existing civilian employees reminding them. While I am optimistic have also to be carefuJIy gone into. All these recommendations are being exami that a good deal will be achieved by these ned in coDSultation with the Ministry of efforts, the results are bound to vary Finance. These eleven recommendations from State to State. are given in Annexure-V. 14. The accepted recommendations are being speedily implemented. In leveral cases the required instruc 16. Hon. Members are aware that tions have been issued by Govern the Government has acted with commend ment. It must, however, be understood that tbe implementation would inevitably able speed on the HLC's resolution of be an on-going process. In several cases the 23rd June, 1984. As a direct result amendments of service rUles, etc. will be with effect from the 1 st September, 1984, involved. Even after the issuance of the Government orders directing that such Government has authorised ad-hoc ex amendments be carried out, the con gratia payments to those Defence pen cerned agencies may unavoidably take sioners who retired prior to the 1 st some time to complete the requisite for malities. Similarly, in matters such as January, 1 973, involving a recurring extending health coverage to ex -Service commitment of Rs. 14.50 crOTes per men in military hospitals, the infrastruc annum. SimiJarJy, orders have been ture requirements and additional facilities can only be bui] t up progressively. issued re(e~tly granting t he benefit of 15. Finally, as I have submjtted ordinary family pension scheme to the earJier, six recommendations relate solely families of those Service Officers and to tbe State Governments and the Union personnel who had retired or died before Territory Administrations and another 26 to the State Governments and Union the 3] st December, 1963. Families of Territory Administrations jointly with the OR {other ranks} reservists who were Central Government. While I have indi transferred to pension establishment prior cated the status on these recommend ations in so far as the Central Govern to the] st March, 1968 wiJJ also now be ment is concerned, it will be 'appreciated eligible for family pension. This decision that every State Government will need to of tbe Government on the HLC's recom individUally accept recommendations and as also the responsibility for their imple mendation is likely to benefit about mentation. These matters have been 30,000 widows and the eligible children taken up with the State Governments of the Service Officers and personnel. repeatedly at different levels When the' Kendriya Sainik Board, on which the The Government continues to have the States & UTs Rre represented-some at same keenne ss to ensure earJy decisions tbe level of CMs or Ministers-met on al1 the other recommendations of the recently at New Delhi on the 10 July, HLC and the speedy implementa tioo of 1985, I utilised the opportunity to reite. rate the imperative need to accept and these decisions. 3 S 7 Calling Allemioll SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention 358 Annexure-I Ust 01 Recommendations which heve been accepted/partly accepted or are likely to be accepted or are consequential in nature (para 8 01 the statement refers) ACCEPTED Serial Recommendation Subject number number 1 2 3 1. 15.2 Definition of an Ex-serviceman. 2. 15.6 Special ex-servicemen placement drives. 3. 15.7 Lateral induction into suitable Group 'A' and 'B' P9sts. 4. 15.8 Improvements in the Discharge Certificate. S. 15.11 Modification and amendments to Recruitment Rules. 6. 15,12 Revitalisation of Rajya and Zila Sainik Boards.. 7. 15.13 Absorption of released Short Service Commissioned Officers. 8. 15.14 Avenues and opportunities for ex-servicemen in Dew areas for Nation building tasks. 9. IS.18 Dismantlina of concessions after acceptance of assured employment upto the aae ,of 58 years. 10. 15.26 Enlarged traiDing opportunities for personnel dwina .the last 18 months of service. 11. 15.27 Formal facilities for resettlement training of officers. 12. 15.28 Meani~u1 traiDiq pr08l'amme for retircca by the Services. 13. 15.29 Equation of military quaJificatioDS,- trades and pro fessional experiencc with civil cquivalcuts. 14. 15.32 Statutory reservations at the Central and State Government levels to help ex-aervicemen in self emplo),lDCDt schemes. IS. 15.33 Services to encour88e ex.servicelDCll to UDdortake small self.employment projects. 16. 15.34 Central/State Governments to accord preferential treatment to ex-scrvicemen in self-employmcnt. 17. 15.3S AnciIJary units by ex-servicemen for manufacture and supply of items to Defence industries. 359 Calling Attention AUGUST 19, 1985 Calling Attt!'tk!n 360 1 2 3 18. 15.40 Re-arranging work of sanctioning of pension of service personne]. 19. 15.41 Simplifying tbe- procedure for sanction and disburse ment of pensions. 20. 15.42 Improvement of existing' facilities in l CDA (P) Allahabad. 21. 15.43 Grant of family pension to widows of pre 1.1.1 964 pensieners. 22. ' lS.46 Code of Conduct• . 23. 15.47 Chief Minis~ers, other Ministers and senior serving military officers should meet ex-servicemen during their tours. 24. J 5.48 Revival of practice of Sainik Sammelans for ex servicemen by the Chief Ministers and Collectors. 25. -15.49 Timely assistance and dignified treatment by the State Governments and DistriccAdministration. 26. 15.50 Service persorinel should keep in touch with ex servicemen. 27. 15.51 Service Headquarters should organise pre-retirement orientation courses. 2g. 15.52 lAS trainees at LBS Academy to be given lectures on their responsibilities towards ex-servicemen. 29. 15.53 Ex-servicemen should themselves display a bigh sense of discipline and conduct. 30", 15.54 Amendments to LaJ)d Reforms Act and Rules to protect "and . holdings of Defence personna 1 and reservations 'in 'assignment of surplus land. 3'1. ~5·.55 Housing Boards under State Governments and UTs ,;"1 to reserve a minimum of 10% of the house sites! houses for the ex-servicemen. "1 ~ .,~ , ;;1 ..... -15.5;·: Children of retiring Defence personnel studying in I -Central Schools be given automatic admission in Central Schools at or near the place where the parents settle down on retirement. 33. 15.59 Existing facilities in military hospitals be enhanced for ex-servicemen. 34. 15.60 States/UTs to extend free medical treatment to ex servicemen. 361 Calling Attention SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention 362 1 2 3 35. t 5.61 Extension of canteen facilities in districts with larger Dumber of ex-servicemen. 36. 15.62 Re-organising and strengthening of Directorate General Resettlement. 37. 15.53 Restructuring of Directorate General Resettlement. 38. 15.64 Revitalisation of Sainik Board organisations. 39. 15 .. 65 Strengthening of Zonal Resettlement Directorates and provision of staff at Static headquarters. 40. 15.66 Maintaining a data bank: of retiring personnel in suitable EDP system~ 41. 15.67 Major publicity drive using aU media. 42. 15.68 New publications/handouts for ex-servicemen. PARTLY ACCEPTED I. 15.56 Rent Control Legislation should provide for retiring Defence personnel to get back their hous~s for self occupation on a tirne bound basis and under summary procedures, Financial assistance to ex servicemen for house construction loans on con cessionaj rates. 2. 15.58 State Governments should provide reservation facilities and concessions to the wards of ex-s·.::rvicc men for admission to professional institutions.. LIKELY TO BE ACCEPTED 1. 15.1 Ex-servicemen as .a separate categocy in the 1991 Census. 2. 15.9 Sponsoring of ex.servicemen for reserved and un reserved vacancies by Rajya/Zila Sainik Boards as well as Employment Exchanges. 3. t 5.1 0 Dereservation of reserved posts for ex-servicemen. 30 clear days for confirming non-availability. Carry forward of reserved vacancies for at least one )'Par. RECOMMENDATIONS OF A CO~EQUENTIAL NATURE 1. 15.16 Maintenance of details data to match Ic~uirement of jobs in civilian departments. 2. 15.17 MOdalities for assured employment upto S8 years of age. 363 Calling Attentton AUGUST 28, 1985 Calling Attention 364 Annexure-II Recommendation under consideration relating to assured employment (para 1 0 of the statement refers) 't. SeriaJ.. Recommendation Subject number Dumber 1. 15.1S Assured employment upto the age of 58 years. Aanexure-III List of recommendations under consideration relating to the proposed acl "lid ,elated matters (Para 11 of the statement refers) Serial Recommendation Subject number number 1. '5.3 Enactment of a comprehensive National Ex-service men Resettlemcnt Act and a Draft Model Act for States. 2. 15.4 Constituting a Parliamentary Committee cooaistin& of Members from both tbe Houses. 3. 15.S Establishment of an-Ex.servicemen Resettlcment Commission, (or Commissio~er). ADDesure-IV List of recommendations under consideration reI Clling to ex·ser-vicemen and the Se,en,b Five Year Plan (Para 12 of/he statement refers) Serial Recommendation Subject number number 1. ]5.30 EstabJishment of a Na tional Ex-serv~men FiDan cia) Corporation at the Centre. 15.31 The proposed corporation could render all assistance includinB training to ex.servicemen for startinl self employment ventures. 3. 15.44 Proposal for a plan outlay of Rs. 170 crore. at tbe Central aDd Ra. 180 erores at the State Government levels. 4. 15.45 Allocation of funds vide 15.44 to be spread over a period of Jive years of the Seventh Five Year Plan. ~------365 Calling Att~tion SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Atte11tion 366 ADDexure-V List 0/ recomm:!ndations under consideration relating to terms anti conditions on re employment Jnd pension policy (Para 13 of the statement refers) Serial Recommenda tion Subject number number 1. 15.19 Sinlplification and uniform application of orders governing initial fixation of pay and other benefits on re.employment of ex-servicemen. 2. 15.20 Non-pensioner ex-servicemen be permitted to count full military service upto 5 years and 50% beyond 5 years for increments in pay on re-employment but Dot for seniority. 3. 15.21 Seniority and pay fixation of Emergency Commissioned and Short Service Com- missioned Officers who joined pre commission train ing or who were commissioned after 01 Nov. 1962 but before 10 Jan. 1968. 4. 15.22 Short Service Commissioned Officers, corn.missioned on or after to Jan. 1968 be permitted to count their full military service UpfO 5 years, and 50% beyond 5 years for purpose of fixation of pay 00 re empJoyment, but not for seniority. s. 15.23 Ex-servicemen on re-employment be permitted to count their total mil itary service for grant of various types of loans and advances as also for allotment of family accommodation. 6. 15.24 Suitable enhancement in the eXlstmg exemptabJe limit of pension (Rs. 250/-) on re-employment of officer pensioners in Government jobs. 7. ,15.25 Protection of previous basic pay and grant of one increment in the higher pay scale to re-employed ex-servicemen on pIomotion to a higher post or grade. 8. 15.36 An amendment to the terms of reference of the Fourth Pay Commission for examining the pension policy of past pensioners. 9. 15.37 Rank for rank pension and grant of increased pension to old pensioners whenever pensions are revised. 10. 15.38 Appointing a permanent standing Committee for inter-relating the cost of Jiving index to the pension. 11. 15.39 Restoration of commuted value of pension. 367 Calling Attention AUGUST 19, 1985 Calling Attention 3'68 MR. SPEAKER: Ddes this elaborate the war of Viet Nam signifies the victory statement need any more elaboration? of man over arms. This, I think, explains the humiliation of the hamburger and SHRI KAMAL NATH: 'Yes; a lot Coca. Cola fed American GI in Viet Nam, of it. He has only made the task more Fortunately for us, OUf Jawans are not difficult. GIs. The High Level Committee which was Our jawans come from far more able set up under the chairmanship of the then and cohesive society and are rooted in a Rajya Raksha Mantri Shri K P. Singh society with our Indian ethos. Last year, Deo had prepared and presen ted a very I personally went to some of the far elaborate and good report. flung areas in the northern sector at the height of 18,000 ft. where very few of us MR. SPEAKER: Ten minutes. visit. At that time, Mr. K.P. Singh Deo told me that jf I go there I will die. SHRI KAMAL NATH: Okay; you When I went there I had an opportunity are rationing everything. to talk to our jawans. to our officers. One of the things I asked them was about Sh ri K. p. Singh Dec fortunately is the difficult conditions under which they here. The c\.)mmittee not only submitted live. What was that which bothered their report well in time. but expeditiously them most? They said. "What will as wen. In the Foreword, which I found happen to us when we retire ?'. It is not very interesting~ the then Rajya Raksha the conditions under which they live, the Mantri Shri K p. Singh Deo has quoted natura) hazards they have to face, that is from Winston Churchill, the late Shrimati ouly important. What worried them most Indira Gandhi, the late Pandit Jawaharlal was what will happen to them after they Nehru and has also quoted an epjtaph retire? How would they again become from a war cemetery. part of the national mainstream; not necessarily part of t he social mainstream 12.23 hrs. but part of our natiOnal economic mains tream? So, we have to look at the post [f\·lR. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair] recruitment of period ex sen'ice men. This word 'rehalJilitation' is, l·think, very We all must be conscious of the improper to be used in the context of mag nit ude and importance of the problem ex-servicemen. We are not rehabilitating 9f Ex Servicenlen we aU must be conscious them ; we owe it to them ; and it should of. The magnitude becomes even greater be a part of the design of their service, when we see that every year, in the age just creating re-settlement boards is not group of 31 and 45, 20,000 men are enough. What do you mean by resettle retiring. About four lakh Ex-Servicemen ment? These are not refugee~ that we are there today. roughly speaking. This have to re-settle them. They are part of being a matter of grave importance so our society who have given the best years I congratulate the Defence Minister on of their life to the country. The para the expeditious action he has taken, meter of performance of their service is because it is only from the 1 st of January not measured in terms of a balance-sheet that the new Government has come in. or budget but it is measured in blood and The expeditious action he has mentioned sweat, in integrity and devotion. It is in this statement says that out of a total with this perception that we have to look 68 recommendations, 36 related to the at their problems, to look at the difficul Central Government. Out of these 68, ties they face, once they come back to 42 have been accepted, 1 9 are yet being the civilian notwork. considered, and seven are partly accepted, or are consequential. Coming back to the points raised in the report of high level committee which has For me, military history dowD the made 68 recommendations one of the centuries; from tbe war of Kurukshetra to points mentioned by the Defence Minister 369 Calling Attention .SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention 370 is in one instance. He made a comparison because this is ono of the key recommen and said that it will have repercussions datjons. on the others. on the civilian side. Why should there be a comparison with any The other point in the recommenda body else? Why should all their raeili· tions that have been accepted is about ties or advantages they get be compared self-employment, but the fixing of quotas with the civilian side? The Defence is erroneous. Why should we give them Minister mentiollod that the civilian aspect only a quota when we set up some things has to be considered. I do not agree for them? The hon. Minister stated that with this, because we should not connect there is some legislation for scheduled it with it at all. When it comes to giving castes and tribes. Why should we equate some facilities, some privileges, then we them with scheduled Castes and Tribes? make a comparison "ilh the civilian side. It is not a question of quotas. It should I don't think we should do it ; I do not ,be entirely set aside for them and if we agree with him at all. 10 fact, the ex take a case, for example, like pe trol servicemen should have a national edge pumps,. or gas outlets, we should see that over civilians, and if we get into the they are entirely given to the ex groove of comparison with the civilian servicemen. If nobody from the ex services or with any other services, we servicemen comes forward to take them will be back to square ooe, because over then they can be given to civilians. the last 20 years, this problem of ex· servicemen has been considered, reports AN HON. MEMBER: Or after some have been made, many speeches have been time it caD be given to the civilians. made. committees have been set up, but nothing much bas happened. The first step is [he formation of a committee. SHRI KAMAL NA TH: Yes, some Then the re are re(ommendations; then time limit can be there some percentage there is a scrutiny of the recommenda. can be tilted We have to see that there tions ; then there is the acceptance of is 00 clouding and blurring our vision those recommenda lions. Acceptance of with quotas and reservations. We should recommendations is only [he start of the not do that. Now I will straight come matter: it is not tbe end of the matter. to the questions whicn I would like to and we should not consider it th e end of pose. the matter, be;ause once the r~commeoda tions are accepted, then there is the The problems of these ex-servicemen question of implementation, because are diverse in nature They are fathoms accepting a recommendation io a file or deep from different backgrounds and on a piece of paper means nothings skills and the ex-servicemen have diverse unless it tickles down to persons for whom expectations. aspirations and hopes. My it is meant those who are beneficiaries of Question to the Defence Minister , is' DOW it, there is no usc of any consideration, that 42 recommendations havo been DO use of acceptance of recommenda. accepted, when will the re.. l beneficiaries tions. get the benefit of tbose recommendations? The recommendation about self.employ ment has been accepted. But when win Sir, what the tx-servicemen really need they get the benefit of it? That has been is a second career. This matter has also mooted in the past aJso. Just sayiD, been brought out by the Higb.Jevel com that they will be given a Joan of mittee; but it is still being considered. Rs. S ,000 and interest will be ~har&ed at Out of 42 recommendation! which have 4 per cent or so will Dot do. These arc been accepted this bas Dot been included. all out-dated things. T hey are all neither It, no doubt. involves i nter.depart mental pralmatie nor practical. Why can we meetings. That is all very well. The Dot have a finance corporation for ex assurance of the second career for tbem servicemen, just as there is Exports sbould be on joining service because they Finance Corporation. When ,OU cODsider retire very young and we request that tbe liviDl them a Bas outlet or petrol oude' Defenco Minister must look ioto this, or diclCl owlet, why do you think 01 37 I Calling A tten lion AUGUST 19, 1985 Calling Attention 372 [Shri Kamal N ath] fnments have to, take decisions and im plement them. some questioned reservations? Why should we not give it to them exct'usively. We have to take decisions after con MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: Hon. sulting the Finance Ministry, P1anning Commission and the Department of Minister ...... • Personnel. I have also told the House SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN: I want to about the matters which have been en mention .•. (Interruption). trusted to them Mr. K.P. Singh Deo, \\ho is now wearing a different hat, will have to look into this and te)) us what to MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: After do. Only then decisions could be taken. the HOD. Minister rep1ies you cao To the extent we could take decisions in speak. tbe Ministry they have been taken and tbey are well on the way to implementa THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE tion. Orders have been issued. But as (SHRI P.V. NARASIMHA RAO): I has been pointed out, these orders will have DO particular points to answer. ha ve to be implemented on an on-going Generally, I :!gree with the sentiments basis. I am prepared to report to Par expressed by Mr. Kamal Nath. I would liament whenever Parliament wants me to like to assure bim that the Government report from session to session, from six have been c'onsid~ring these and taking In,- nrhs to six months or from year to steps" hatever steps are possibJe since long, year. I am prepared to report to Parlia before he went and talked to the Jawans ment about the progress that has bten So while I thank him for the information rLa0e We are equally keen on a1l these which he has given about what the things. That is what 1 would like to s~Y. jawans want I would like to assure him that the Government are fully aware SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN (J,t.balpur) : about the worries of jaw lOS on the fron First of all, I wou'd like to congratu late tiers. We are trying our best to see that the Defence Minister because very reCent those worries are set at rest. Jy he has annnunced that the family pension. which was applicable to people As I said, the implementation of c~r· \\ho die or retire before the stipuldted tain recommendations or decision taken date, will also be applicable to others. on tbe rec(\mmendatioos is an on·going I ttink, it, very specrficalJy, proves the process. If:. ou ask me by what time bona fide of the Government of India this will be done" I have really no answer that it is interested in the welfare of ex to this beca.use there ca n be ,no answer to servicemen and' \\ants to give them this. Every year a ne~ ,batch of 50,000 benefits. to.70000 service.men 'is coming o'ut of the service. SQ, this has to be a,n on We are neither in doubt about the going ,process. estl btisbment of a high power committee to go in to thf' details of the problems of The Calling Attention Motion really ex·s?fvicemen nor are we having any re wanted to concentrate on what, they s~rvation~ about ,the Government of consider, delay in the implementation. I India's ~oing in full steam for implement would Jike to say that there has been no ing the,. recommendations of the commit delay. Decisions have been t:aken.. Im tee;> We, as ex .servicemen. arc sure that plementation has begun as 'decisions have our comforts, necessities and welfare are been taken. ~.ve are not wa iting for all in very safe hands of the hon. Defence the recommendations to be either accept Minister and han. Prime Minister. We ed or rejected. We have been taking ex are very sure and optimistic t~lat in times ped~tious action.. I have already stated to come we will get all those, decisions v, hat action is being tCiken. There are implemented whether the ap:ency is the certain matters on which we ourselves Government of India or the respect ive cannot take decisions. The State Go·;e. beads of the Services or the State Gove~ 373 Calling Attention SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Calling Attention 374 roments or public sector undertakings or dignity of the man that is to be main private sector. But the Inain aim of this tained. It is also one of the recommen calling attention motion is to draw the dations. I must bring it to the notice att'ention of the hon. Minister to the of the hon. Minister that there are Col delay which takes place after the imple lectors in this country who do Dot see a mentation stage starts. What happens is Colonel or a Brigadier for three weeks. that after the decision has been taken by Have Dot a Collector got five minutes to the Government of India on the recom give to a Colonel who wants to speak to mendations of the report of the high him? Does it require any constitutional power committee, it bas got to go to propriety or a great decision at the level various agencies for implementation. Is of the State Government? I do not it not the responsibility of the Ministry, want to name the persons but the people the Chiefs of Army, Navy and Air Force feel hurt. There is a Brigadier who through the ir agencies which are existing writes about the welfare of a Subedar to right upto the district level, to monitor the Chief of the Army Staff and he does the progress which is being done in the not have the courtesy to reply to the implementation and to ensure that the Br igad ier. I t is not tbat we require any real benefits percolate down to every ex job. it is not that we require any reser servicemen? vation~ it is not that we require our dis qualification to be covered by reservation, we want ourselves to be treated honour There are two types of ex-servicemen. ably. Even one of the recommendations One type of eA.-servicemen is that who also-I do not know when it is going to has looked after his post-retirement be implemented-says: "Chief Minister problem right from the beginning when and other Ministers and senior serving be has joined the service. When he re officers should meet ex-servicemen during tires, by grace of God or ancestors, he tours. Revival of practice of Sainik has gqt land, he has got some business Sammelans for ex-servicemen by tbe Chief going or he has got some side Income Ministers and Collectors... " I do not besides his pension. The other type of think any CoJlector in India has held any ex- servicemen is that who is not an officer. meeting of any ex-servicemen. It also who is not well set tIed, who bas not got says. hTimely assistance and dignified anything to fall back upon. He is the treatment by the State Governments and person who is hardest hit by the delay district administrations..... " I also in implementation and because of the want to bring it to the notice of the bon. Jack of monitoring at the level of Service Defence Minister that in the last meeting Head or at the level of the States or at of the Kendriya Sainik Board which is the level of the public sector undertak concerned with the welfare of the ex ings. .• . .. (Interruption). servicemen~ it was held by most of the States that the representatives who attend SHRI KAMAL NA TH: There is a ed these meetings are of the level of not third type also who join politics. even Under Secretaries. Tbere are some States which are represented by tbe Chief SHRI AJAY MUSHRAN: Politics Secretary, by their Ministers, and there is a highly temporary affair, You have are some States which are represented by seen the misfortune of the ex· servicemen a member of tbe District Sainik Board tbat e\ten in the ballot of the CaJJing or by One of the officials of the State Attention, the name of the ex-serviceman Sainik Board. This is not the level at comes last, So, I hope, at least at your which the welfare is to be treated. level we will get some reservation •••••• (Interruption) • The main probJem of an. ex-serviceman today is the vacation of - his house. AN HON. MEMBER: Non.ex-ser Suppose a person has built a house and vicemen are not in the list. he wants to get it vacated. There ar~ various legal problems which have been SHRI AJA Y MUSHRAN: As hOD. thrown between these welfare schemes friend Mr. Kamal Nath said. it is the which had been accepted. TodayJ there 37 S Calling Attention AUGUST J9, 1985 Calling Attention 376 [Shri Ajay Mushran] Secondly the vacation of houses are some States which have gone in (or belonging to the ex-servicemen or those an Act under which an ex-serviceman or belonging to the widows of ex-servicemen a person who is still serving can get his particularly in places like Delhi and house vacated, but a large number of Punjab should be viewed with sympathy. States, J)articularly the Union Territory of Delhi where a large Dumber of ex The best State which is lOoking after servicemen are affected, have not gone in their ex· servicemen is Haryana. We for this. Therefore, I very earnestly are proud of the Haryana Government. request the hOD. Defence Minister that We are proud of other State Government particularly for Delhi, Punjab and such also, but we are prouder if they]ook other States from where a large number after us and if they restore the dignity of e~-serviccmen or servicemen come, which was given to us in the old days. special efforts should be made at the Therefore, I would say tbat these State Chief Ministers' level to get these enact. Officers, the District Officers and the ments passed because an ordinary ex Chiefs of the three Services should give serviceman cannot go to the court. He due respect to their ex-servicemen. I bas neither the money nor the time. am very sorry to bring this to the notice Some of them of the rank of JeO or of the hone Defence Minister, but I Sepoy, cannot have the khowhow to &0 to thought it is my duty a~ a Member of the court. the House and as an ex-serviceman to do so. The second problem is about the THE MINISTER OF DEFENCE children of the servicemen and the ex (SHRI P V. NARASIMHA RAO): Sir, servicemen. They do not get seat easily again I would agree with the sen'irnents either in the engineering colleges or in the expressed by the bon. Member, who has medical colleges or in the Kendriya special knowledge of the ex-servicemen schools, where they are transferred. I because he is himself one amongst them. have literally seen and experienced that DO State owns an ex-serviceman. So, Now, jf I have to explain what has even if his SOD or daughter bas qualified been done on an individual recommend for the medical engineering course in ation, what decision has been taken, competition, they do nOt get admission. how it is proposed to be implemented I am not advocating for people who have or has been implemented partially, I got 1 S or 20 m:lrk§ out of one hundred. think I would be taking too much time The ex-serviceman requires acknowledge of the House. Out of the 68 recom. ment of the services done for the country. mendations, I have given an analysis He requires acknowledgement for the of a batch of recommendations on which sacrifices done by his family -when the a particular action has been taken Simi officers and other ranks bave lived in larty about another patch on which another uncongenial climate and in family sepa. action has been taken. I have liven annexu ration, as Shri KlmJI Nath has said. res separately. I am prepared to share all Tllday in civil services if you post two the information in regard to each of lAS Officers -wife and husband -sepa these recommendations and the decisions rately for three montbs they say they are taken thereon with any hone Member or facing great difficulties. Here are some Members who want to ask me about it examples of officers and men who have I am prepared to tell them what bas aerved in Don-family stations for ten years been done and I am prepared to accept consecutively. They must be protected. whatever suggestions they may offer Their honour must be dianitied. Their in regard to what mOre needs to be due must be given. This is my recom done. I am not saying that notbina mendations. So. the main problem for more D:,eds to be done. That is why them is admission ror their children in HLC was constituted. That is wby oDlineering and medical colleges so that we are takina all these sU8lcstioni in (b future or the children or tbe ex-service.- tbe wake of the HLC recommendatioDs. men is safeluarded. I am 'also in a positi ~D to tcll- tho 377 Govt. Savings Laws SRAVANA 28. 1907 (S4.KA) Tnt. Organisations 378 (Amdt.) Bill (Restriction of Right) Bill House that we at our level have been 1 873 and the Government Savings thinking of several new steps. They Certificates Act, 1959. ate still in the making because they are at the examination stage I would not MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER The like to divulge them just now because question is : they are at the moment incomplete. So, in that for m I would not like to present "That leave be gf an ted to introduce a them to the House. I would be in a Bill further to amend the Govern position to present them at a subsequent ment Savings Banks Act. 1873 time. But in the meanwhi e jf any and the 00\ ernment Savings Member wants to know what j~ the Certificates Act, 1 i59. specific action being taken or proposed to be taken on a specific recommend. The motion was adapted. ation, I am prepared to give him all the information that is needed. That is all I SHRI JANARDHANA POOJARY have to say, Sir, I introduce the BiI1. 12.52 hrs. 12.S1 hrs. *INTELLIGENCE ORGANISATIONS STATEMENT RE: CONVERTIBLE (RESTRICTION OF CUMULATIVE PREFERENCE RIGHTS) BILL SHARES (Englr~h) [English] THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN) 1 beg to THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI move for leave to introduce a Bill to JANARDHANA POOJARY): Mr. provide for the restriction of certain Speaker, Sir, As the House is aware, in rights conferred by Part III of tho my Budget Speech on 16th March 1985 Constitution in their application to the I bad announced that in order to members of certain organisations diversify the market, a new instrument. established by the Central Government namely Convertible Cumulative Preference for purposes of intelligence or counter. Share was being introduced. Guiddines intelligence so as to ensure the proper for issue of these Convertible Cumulative discharge of their duties and the Preference Shares have now been for maintenance of discipline among tbem. mulated and these are being placed on MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER The the TabJe of the House. question is : ·'That leave be granted to introduce a Bill to provide for the rCitriction *OOVERNMENT SAVINGS LAWS of certain rights conferred by (AMENDMENT) BILL Part III' of the Constitution in their application to the members [English] of certain organisations eitablahed by t'le Cenfral GO\lernment for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN purposes of intelligence or THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI counter-intelligeoce so as to ensure JANARDHANA POOJARY) : On b balf the proper discharge of their of Shri Vi~hwanath Pratap ~ingh, duties and the mJintenance of beg leave Sir, I to move (or discipline among them." to in troduce a Bill further to amend tbe Government Savings B lDks Act. Th~ motlolf was adopted ·Publiahcd in Gazette of India Extra-ordinary, Part II, Section 2 dated 19.8-1985. 379 Supreme Court (Number of AUGUST 19,1985 Matters Under 380 Rule 377 Judges) Amdt. Bill SHRI S,B, CHA VAN : I introduce MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : From today itself we can try tbat. Instead of the Bill. tomorrow. we will try and we will see how it wor ks today'. *SUPREME COURT (NUMBER OF JUDGES) AMENDMENT Bl,LL 12.54 hrs. [English] MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN THE MINISTRY OF LAW AND [English] JUSTICE (SHRI H. R. BHARADWAJ) : On behalf of Shri Asoke Kumar Sen, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Now, I beg to move for leave to introduce a matters under Rule 377. Bill further to amend the Supreme Court (Number of Judges) Act, 19,6. -Shri Mohan Lal Jhikram-absent. -Shri Balasaheb Vikhe PatH-absent. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The -Now Shri Zainu1 Basher. quest ion is : "That leave be granted to introduce [Translation] a Bill further to amend the Supreme Court (Number of (i) Need to give status of Central Judges) Act, 1956." University to Allahabad Unh'ersity and other old Universities in the country The motion was odopted SHRI ZAINUL BASHER: Mr. SHRI H,R: BHARADWAJ I Deputy Speaker, Sir, some of tbe uni introduce the Bin. versities of the coun try have been closely associated with the propagation of modern education and traditions of higb education inl! India. The history of modern education in India is incomp1ete MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER· Shri without these universIties. Allahabad Ghulam Nabi Azad University occupies prominent position among these universities. After indepen THE MINISTER OF ST ATE IN dence, AJlababad UniversitiY and some 'THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY other main universities s~ch as Calcutta, AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULAM NABI Madras and Bombay, were not made Cent AZAD) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir,· ral Universities for certain reasons. As I would like to submit that we can these universities have been fUDctioning dispense with the Lunch Hour today. under the State Governments the standard of education and discipline has been con MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER I think stantly declining there. For example the Allahabad University was famous for hon; Members accept this. sending maximum Dumber of students to the Indian Administrative Services but SOME HON. MEMBERS: Yes. now it is lagging behind in this respect. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : So, it The people who outsbore others in .is ~ccepted. every ,walk of life during the 19th and 20:tb centur·ies were the students of these AN HON. MEMBER ; Fro~ tomorrow uni\'ersities.. In tbe areas which were only. once famous· 'for traditional and bigb .Published in Gazette of India Extra-ordinary, Part 1I, Sec. 1 dated 19-8-1985. 381 Matters Under Rule 377 SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Matters Under Rule 377 ~82 education, the standard of such educa peditious completion of Rajastan Canal, tion is declining because of falling stan viz, Ind ira Canal. dards in these universi ties. I, therefore, request the Central Go It is, therefore, imperative that Allaha vernment and tbe Stale Government to bad and other oJd univer-Sities of the take steps to solve the problem of drink country be declared universities of natio .. ing water permanently for about two nal importance and granted the status of thousand villages of Barmt!r, Jaisalmer central universities in order to maintain and Jodhpur districts and the cities of the high standard of education in them. Jodhpur, Barmer, Jaisalmer, Pokaran, Shergarh, Balotara and Falodi within the Seventh Five Year Plan period by, (ii) Steps needed to protect mountains implementing drinking wattr schemes and forest areas of Mirzapur Dis through the Pokaran lift ca'nal ~ Kolayat trict of Uttar Pradesh from De lift canal and Mohangarh to Barmer lift forestation canal and Jilwa tlranch known as Sagarmal Gopa, of Rajasthan Canal. SHRI UMA KANT MISHRA: Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, the Mirzapur (iii) Providing Central Assista ice to the district of Uttar Pradesh has been known tune of 1~4i. 100 crores to Hima for its forests and hills, since times im chal Pradesh dudng 1985 for memorial. Although this district is construction oC Pu:ca Roads and economically backward, it is considered Bridges to be the best for its natural environment. In the southern side of this district, the SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI (Siml-l): forests and hills have been denuded fol Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, Himachal Pra lowing the establishment of many bi.g desh made rapid strides jn development ind ustries ioel uding hydel and thermal after independence a!ld came at par with power projects. In the remaining part of other States. With the con .. truction of the forests, trees were fetIed by the timber roads, the pace of development accele contractors who made crores of rupees rated there. PrevIOusly. people used to a~ a result thereof. The hills are also experience a lot ,,·f difficulties in re3.:hing being destroyed at a great speed by the the remote villages. Th: construcrion of quarry contractors in an illegal manner. roads there bas prov~j t() be a bJOO for The new plantations are also beIng felled the people in rural areas, But certain by the contractors in cot Jusion with roads running into hundreds of kdo the officer of the Forest Department meters are not puc~a and get damaged and thus they are minting money. The during rains and snowfall. Small bridges trees being feJJed outnumber those being and culverts generally are washed away planted. Thus the natural beauty of due to erosion caused by rivers and Mirzapur is being marred. This is hav tbus the money spent by Government ing a ~uch advers~ effect on the environ goes waste. The power of the people ment of the district. As a result, this to purchase items of daily consumption district is often visited by natural calami is also eroded to a great ~xtent. There ties such as excess rains or drought. fore, the only remedy to these m3Jad:es is that the Government 9f India should I request the Central Government to provide an assistance of Rs 100 crares take necessary steps to protect the forests to the Hi,machal Pr~desh Government and hills of Mirzapur fOr their exces~ive during 1985-86 to enable the' S;(ite use. Then the situa tion will become all the Government to protect these roa~s and to more acute. As such, the problem of convert them into alJ -weather roads. drinking water cannot be solved p~rma The State Govern ment is not in (l' posi nently there by providing tubewells and tion to solve this prcbkm as its resc.1urce-; wells there. Therefore, the only .perma are lirr.iteci. I wou1d request the tTnicn nent solution to the drinking \\ater Finance Minister to, take immediate problem in' this vast area lies in the ex- steps to provide the said arno,unt. 383 Motters Under Rule 377 AUGUST 19, 1985 Matt~rs Under Rill. 377 384 (if) Schemes for providing drlDkJol water Hence, Central Government may for facilities In Rajasthan during Se~eath Plan mulate and implement a comprehensive SHRI VIRDHI CHANDER JAIN plan for permanent eradication of famine (Barmer): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the to release as many people and as much drinking water problem is acute in area from the menace of recurring famine. tbe Thar desert areas of Rajasthan, parti The foUowina steps may be considered for c.-lady in most of the villages in Beumer. permanent eradication of famine :- Jaisalmer and Jodhpur districts despite 1 • Devise ways aod means to improve the fact that the State and the Central irrigation in these areas. Governments have spent crores of rupees 2. Establish as many industrie!' on drinking water schemes. agro-based and mineral based to There is no source of water in one create more gainful employment. tbird area in these districta and in the 3. Improvement of the underground remaining two-third area, water is either water by constructing percolation brackisb or is avaiJable in meagre quan tanks, cbeck dams etc. and im tity. Even where tube-wells have been provement of 'he existing tanks sunk, very little water is forthcoming. and irrigation wells. These tubewells are likely ~o stop suppty 4. Special drive for afforestation. in. water after about twenty-five years S. Provide electricity lor agriculture. due to excessive use of water. Then the 6. Improve transport facilities from situation will deteriorate further. villages to the market place. Therefore, permanent solution to drink 7. Provide education to aIJ children ing water problem for the increasing po from these areas. pulation of this area does not lie in sink 13.00 brs. ing tube-wells or digging of weJ)s. (vi) Need to withdraw Notification Permanent solution to the problem of and the Bill seeking to withdraw suppJying drinking water to the human tbe exemption of excise duty on beings and 1ivesto~ k of 5uth a va~t area hand-made detergent product~ in can be found only through Rajasthan the inter~~t of promoting tbe Canal or Indira Canal. growth of Small Scale Industries Therefore, I strongly urge the Central SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA (Vi,nu and State Governments (0 provide drink pur): Sir, it is a matter of great regret ing ~ater facilities to about 2000 villages that while the Government of India is in Barmer, Jaisalmer and Jodhpur districts committed to the policy of encouraging as well as to the citios of Jodhpur, Ba.rmer .. small scaJe industries in variollS fields Jaisalmer, Pokharan, Sbergarh. Balotra and to protect them from unequal com and Falodi of Rajasthan by according ap petition from biB industries by extending proval to Pokharan lift Canal, Kolayal various concessions like exemption from Lift Canal. and Mohangarh-Barmer Lift excise duty and other facilities, they have Canal, Lilwa Branch which is also known recently taken series of sfeps which under as Sagarmal Gapa Canal during the mine the above policy and withdraw the Seventh Five Year Plan and thereby pro facilities gi~eD to small scale industries. vide a permanent solution to the drinking For example, very recently, tbe Govern water problem to the Thar desert area of ment have reportedly withdrawn the Rajasthan State. ("xemption of excise duty on hand-made [En,lish] , detergent cakes, powder, acids, slurry etc., (v) Need to lIdopt permanent mnsures to (r. affecting the srnall scale manufacturers of dlcate famine io chronic drought prOM areas soaps _and detergents. I t appears that a SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY notification to this effect has alrc=ady been (Hindupur): Many areas in the country issued with effect from 1-8-1985 and a are chronically drought affected. People Bill bas also been introduced to remove in these areas Rlffer inceaantly from the exemption in the current Session of recurrence of famine. Scantl)' and er Parliament. ratic rainfall results in unprecedented Withdrawal of the concessions offered drou,btl throwins the people into object to the small scale industries will force misery. Only temporary steps are taken them to compete with big business. This to ameliorate the sufferings of the peopte. policy will mean death koelJ to amall No permanent 'teps are contemplated scale industries. ao4 implemented '0 sa to save the people I uriC upon the Government of India from raval(' of succeuive famines. to withdraw and tbe laid notification an4 385 Matters Under SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAKA) Essentla/Services 386 Rule 377 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill the Bill introduced in Parliament seeking is the only solution. Reply to my to withdraw the exemption of excise duty VDstarred Question No. 344, dated the on hand made detergen t prod ucts in the 14th August, 1985 tota))y denies any larger interest of country's indigenous such incentives and therefore the need to economic growth. As the matter is quite evolve giving such special facilities. serious, I call upon the Government to take immediate action. (vii) Extending the same benefits to the 13.04 brs. Educational and Vocational Gui dance Counsellors working in ESSENTIAL SERVICES MAINTENANCe var ious Government Schools in (AMENDMENT) BILL-Contd. Delhi as are provided to all other categories of teachers employed in [English] Government Schools MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER : Sbri Indrajit Gupta-not present. SHRI K.J. ABBASI (Domariaganj) Sir, various benefits like enhancement of Shri Haroobhai Mehta. age to 60 years, selection grade, stagna tion increments, medical allowance etc., have been granted to all categories of SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Ulube teachers working in the Government ria): Sir, all the hone Members have scho()ls in Delhi. The benefits have not, gone for Lunch because they thought that so far, been given to the Educational and the BilJ would be taken up after 2 p.m. Vocational Guidance Counsellors working in the same schools. The E.V.G. MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: Even the Counsellors, in addition to guidance work, subject may come to an end at any time. also take regular periods in schools like How can we say that? We cannot other categories of teachers. They are ·predict that it will come only at 2 p.m. very much involved in the process of teaching. SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH: Betweetl Since these benefits have also been 1 & 2 is the Lunch Hour. granted to Librarians and Laboratory Assistants, who are not engaged to teaching process, there is no justification MR. DEPUTY.SPEAKER: That is in excluding the E.V.G. Counsellors why, I asked the House about dispening working in the same schools. with Lunch Hour. Everybody agreed. Nobody dissented to it. Therefore, tbere is no point in asking for DOW. Now, we I request the hone Education Minister are to continue the discussion on tbis to kindly look into the matter and rectify Bill. tbe gross injustice done to the Counsel lors. SHRI HAROOBHAI MEHTA (Ahmee. (viii) Incentives to protection staff dabad): Sir, the extension of the life employed in Archaeological Survey of Essential Services Maintenance Act, of India to stop pilferage of 1981 is hardly a matter of pleasure for archaeological relics me and I am sure that the same must be the feeling of the bon. Minister who SHRI DIGVIJAY SINH (Surendra piloted the BiU. However, we come nagar): Sir. encroachment of properties across situations io which certain measures ~wned by the Arcbaeological Survey of oot quite suited to our likiol have lot to India ,and tbe pilferage or archaeological be pursued. Undoubtedly, the provisions relics bas assumed alarmiDl proportions. contained io the Essential Services Maio Consider ina .the meagre emolument received tenance ·Act (BSMA)lare drastic to some. by the protection staff. @iving incentives extant. 3 87 Essential Services AUGUST 19, 1985 Maintenance (Amdl.) Bill 388 13.05 hn. conscious of the fact that workers resent against this situation especially when seen [SHRIMATI BASAVA RAJESHWARI in the in juxtaposition with tbe conclusion of the Chair] Supreme Court in Exelwear case (1978) tbat the right to cJose down a going [Shri Haroobhai Mehta] industrial unit is a part of the funda. I might have been as vocal as many mental right of the employer guaranteed by Article 19(1 )(8) a! held by tbe friends to plead for the cessation of the SupreD?e Court. We have to _ put operation of such an Act bad it Dot been that of late, the strikes of employees have up with this situation until altered. assumed a character which can hardly be considered patriotic. Take, for example, If the Supreme Court has held that certain strikes in public sector, motivated there is no fundamen tal right of workers not by any genuine trade union objectives to go on strike. that does not end the but resorted to in order to weaken public matter. I would quote a higher social sector at the instance of certain foreign au thority in favour of the workers, that agencies which would not countenance j~ ·vfahatma Gandhiji who wrote in India marching towards self-reliance and Yong India of 6-10-1920 tbat tbe right w~ich. therefore, thought that weakening to resort to strike is an inherent right of public sector is a sure way to obstruct which a worker may exercise for securing tbe course of such march of India. Take justice. also the strikes launched by trade unions whose decision-making bo~ies are control. I may point out that Ahmedabad city led by the upper-caste orthodoxy around has the singular distinction of tbe demands to abolish reservations or baving its textile workers strike of Feb rosters. Such strikes would run counter ruary-March, 1 91 8 actively and closely to our basic Constitutional tenets and in led and guided by Mahatma Gandhiji tte context of trade union 8(;tivities, the bimself. It bas. however, to be borne same would run counter to the interests in mind that Gandhiji did not advocate of the weakc!r sections among the strikes in public utilities Mahatma employees. Would anyone with a G "!ndhiji wrote to this effect in the conscious trade union mind, think that Harijao, of 21 st April 446 at the time such strikes are conductive to legitimate of sweepers' strike in Bombay. trade unionism or are in the interest of the society as a whole? I am happy So far as essential services and public sec that my good friend Mr. Indrajit Gupta tor are concerned all of us should put our stated that he docs ·not support such heads together in order to find out bow strikes. These types of strikes not only a new trade union culture can be deve divide tbe trade union front but also Joped under which workers can have divide tbe society. their grievances sorted out through bila teral agreements, arbitration /adjudicatioQ \\'bat can be the patriotic reaction and, if necessary, through struggles with against such strikes? Can we call such out impairing the working of essential activity an exercise of fundamental right services in public sector establishments. of workers 'I Of course, adoptioa such a course on Coming to tbe plea on tbe basis or tbe part of workers unilaterally would fundamental rilht of workers. I must be ao exercise in self -effacement. The mOlt humbly poiot out tbat the Supreme management must also develop a De. Court bas ruled in All Ind ia Bank climate. Bureaucratic and oflen feudal Bmployees Union case (I 962) that the approacbes, seen in some public &eCtor fundamental ri,ht under Article 19(1 )(c) manasements sboutd be sbuDDed. There does Dot iDclude in its sweep the rilht to sbould be constant readiness and under Itrikc. One mayor may not agree with standing about the arievaDCel of the tbe formulation of the Supreme Court. workmen. Workmen should be livea l'at this is the law of the land. I am full immunity apiDal victimisatiOD for 389 Essential Services SRAVANA.28, 1907 (SAKA.) Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 390 legitimate trade union activities. Arbi. I would like to urge the hOD. Minister trary terminations should be given a go. in this c8nnection that the Government by. Disputes, collective as well as in should activate the administration to dividual, s~ould be quickly resolved implement vigorously the provisions COD through bilateral settlements and when tained in Sections 8 and 9. the same is not possible, through arbitra. tion/adjudication. Sometimes we find In this connection, I .take the liberty that labour authorities are reluctant even to. suggest that tbe Government may se in the matter of making references for riously consider whether it is feasible to adjudication under Section 10 of the set up a sort of Advisory Board for post 1.0. Act. You can imagine what could facto considera ti on of declarations under be the pI ight of workers when even ad. Sections 3, 8 and 9. Such an Ad. judication is not available to them for visory Board may consist of repre years. Many friends know, as a matter sentatives of the Government-Home of fact, what happened when the Supreme Ministry and Labour Ministry-workers Court pronounced in Safdarjung case that and the managements. This wjH remove industrial disputes channels under 1.0. the sting from the Act and lend an as. Act would not be available to hospital surance to workers and managements workers. Next day, there were red fIJgs alike about justification of such declara hoisted on the gates of the hospital. tions. After all, when even smugglers are entitled to have their cases examined Our industrial adjudication machinery by an Advisory Board under COFEPOSA is working at a snail's pace. Think of as required by Article 22 of the Consti a case of arbitrdry termination which tution, why should not workers employed comes to be decided even in favour of in essen tia} services as a class be entitled workmen but, at the end of a decade! to have the declarations regarding strikes, What would be happening to the family lockouts or lay-offs examined by an Ad. of the workmen in the meanwhile? visoI)' Board? Such a course will strengthen the hands of the Government I would like to draw the attention of in justifying the decJarations and elimi. the Minister of Home Affairs to the nate any scope of an apprehension about situation that often pubJic sector manage any possible arbitrariness in these ments do Dot accept the awards of the matters. adjudication machinery. They go on challenging them in t he High Courts and With these words, I consider it to be in the Supreme Court and in the process my duty to support the Bill. tiring out the workers to settle the case by acceptin$! something less thaa due. [Translation] This approach of the management cannot SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY (Ha inspire a proper trade union culture aimed zadbagb) : We are not bappy to at protecting and strengthening the essen support this Bill but at times the circum tial services in public sector without stances compel us to do so. We fail compromising the interests of workers. to understand as to why such a Bill has been brought forward and why we However, while drawing the picture are supporting it. Our hon. friends of ESMA, one need not always apply the si tting opposite, some of whom are black brush. There are some redeeming active trade unionists, bave said certaio features in tbe Act. Section 4 insists tbat thinas about this Bill which in ract even the dismissal on tbe ground of com they Ibould not have said. There mencing or instigation of a strike should was also lome miS-statement wbicla be in accordance with Dormal provisions. needed to be clarified. It has been said tbat peopl. joined baDd.~ to launcb Sections 8 and 9 empower tbe strike in the coal ind ustry and cveo tbe Government to probibit lockouts and Jay legitimate demands of the workers were offs in. circumstances si milar to tbose not accepted and that was why tbey pertaininl to strikes. had to resort to strik.e tbrice. Will 391 Essential Services AUGUST 19. 1985 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 392 [Sbri Damodar PandeyJ SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA All these leaders tell us in a11 sincerity your Jaws are useless. whether tbis strike bad been laun ched in support of the demands SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY : This of the workers or to show their process? shows that you need Jaw for regulating AJJ these leaders had given a slogan your day to day activities. If you are during tbis strike. This slogan was made responsible for certain things not in any way related to tbe demands then is it not your responsibility to see of the workers. This slogan aimed at as to when strike should be resorted securing adequate berth for these leaders to and when it should not be resorted in tho committee that had been formed to ? to consider these demands~ in an important industry like coal mines. If the strike is resorted to for achieving their SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA It is selfish ends at tbe cost of the interests of only you peop!.: who understand it; we do not understand it. the workers, it is indeed a very sorry state of affairs and cannot be justified in any way. They also said that the strike SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY I took place despite oppos ilion by INTUC. an) giving an example; you look into it. I represent INTUC an d work with coal workers. I kn ow it for certain that SHRI INDRAJI GUPTA : I know these leaders had been strnog'y condemned you have given a wrong examp1e. by the coal workers. They gave a caB for strike at the national 1evel thrice but every time as many as 80 SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY . If per cent workers reported for work. you had realj~e~ your respcDsibility., This shows how successful they then the hon Home Min ister would were. not have felt the necessity ('of bringing forward such a law. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirhat;: Then there is no need for bringing forward this Jaw. Your INTUC is SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA If quite sufficient to meet the si tuation. strike takes place 440 times in 365 days in a coal mine then it means either SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY: You your Jaw is useless or there is no need can very well visualise why this law of it. You need no law to break the strike has been brought forward. INTUC is ••. (Interruption.'fi) ... a recognised union. Over 60,000 coal workers work in the Singreni Col1kry. SfIRI DAMODAR PANDEY: I am In this Colliery alone, they resorted to telling you how you people broke the strike for as many as 440 times in a law. You resorted to strike 440 tiInes year of 365 days. Now the question in a year ann the day t he law was is why lhey resorted to strike so many enforced, the strike was withdrawn. As times After the signing of the argee such, such a law is very useful and ment~· they raised certain most unjustified relevant. By your action you have demands. If wages were fixed at certain proved that such a )a w was very places they demanded some additional necessa!'y. We aho at times take recourse facilities on pain of strike. If in an to 'strike hut we do so only when it is industry, workers strike ",,,ork 440 times very ne::essary. Strike should not be in 3 6 5 days, no Government can function resorted to only for the purpose of smoothly and nobody will be able to strike. I do not consider it a wise put up with such a situation. If this step. is the way of meeting with a situation ... (Interruptions) ... but when the I aw was enforced , no strike teok place therc- You formed a National Campaign after •• COlnmittce and raised slogans of 'Bharat 393 Essential Services SRAVANA , 28 , 1907 (SA. A) lvlaintenance (Arndt.) Bill 394 Bandh' and 'Udyog Baodh'. But have AribitratioD. Their grievances need not you ever realised th < t there are be referred to Compulsory Arbitration as industries in private sector also and it takes a lot of time ... exploitation takes place in private sector as well? Your National Camaign Committee puts pressure only for public sector. What was the reason theref'lf? [Enr.! ish 1 ••• (lnterrup fions) .•• SHRI AMAL DATTA (Diamond Harbour ~: May 1 point out, Sir that SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Who there is no quorum in the House. told you that ? Please check your record. THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI S. B. CHAVAN); It SHRI DAMODAR PANDEY is the convention not to raise the qU~St!00 know it 4nd I am speaking on lyon of quorum during lunch hour. that basis. Such things are not resorted to only to protect the fights of the trade unions and the worker~. SHRI BA~UDEB ACHARIA: \Ve how This shows sectarian your were not const.;!ted about dispensing wi th view is. You think that trade union is the lunch hour. nleant only for putting pressure on tbe public sector and your aim is to add to the difficulties of the public sector. ~1R. CHAIR~ ~N: The House had Have you ever realised wherein lies the been taken into confidence only then the solution of this problem? The major lun·:::h ht)ur was suspen Jed. The b;!ll is portion of the public funds is invested being rung- in the public sector. You also pay taxes. The amount realised by Govern ment from the people in the form of taxes has been invested in the public No·.v ther.e is quorum. The hon. sector. As such. there is need to run ~f.:mber. Sbri D~lmodar Pandey, may public sector along smooth lines. But continue. there are people who want to weaken the public sector. Where people choose to resort to strikes on trivial nlatters, [Trail sf a f i 0111 Government has no alternative but to bring SHRI DAfvtOD \R PANDEY: I WJS forward such laws. As such you people suggesting that when you f~el that the compelled Government to bring forward strikes should not be lesortcd to jn such such a legislation. You kindly think over of the industries as have direct relation this matter. ship with our so.:ial and rei sonnel 1jf~->. then we w:)uld h-lve to tak~ effecti\'! Mr. Chairt:'1an, Sir, people do oot seenl steps for the redressal of the grievar.ces ('f to realjse that the essential services must the workers. be run smoothly so that we continu;! to get our daily requirements of life. Nobody would like the essential services At such places, Government has laid to be disturbed in any way. It is not down a proc~dure for grievance setting. that the people managing the services Thii should be f()llowed in right earne~;t are above board or do not commit any and where such procedure has not t-een mistake. At times it is only becau:;e Jaid down, this should be laid down. \"here of their mistakes th~t strikes are resorted mutual such grievances ~re not settled by to. Therefore, effective steps should be discussions GO'lernrnent should not refer taken to remove the grievances of the them to the tribunal. These grievan~cs workers so that they nlay not have to should be referrt.d to the C()mpulscry strike work. The grievances of the Arbitration. This will eliminate ch.\occs workers should be referred to Voluntary for strike. 39 S Essential Services AUGUST 19,1985 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 396 (English] out of job. "'hat are you going to do DR. DATTA SAMANT (Bombay for those owners who are making crore. South Central). I oppose the Bill to rupees by indulging in fraduJent activities amend the Essential Services Maintenance and because of thesse activities Act, 1981, tooth and nail. The the economy of the country is very much Goverernment has come forward with affected? What prOVIsions have you tbis Amendment Bill of 1981 which has made for helping tbe poor workers '1 10 been in existence for the last four years the law there is a provision that on without mentioning anything as to account of natural calamity like non how far it is going to be beneficial to supply of electric supply to the factories, tbe country. The provisions of this Act they can be allowed lay-offs, etc. There are not at all for the benefit for the fore, the owners of the factories are not workmen. On tbe other band, the paying the electric bil1s. M Is. W. G. Government wants to continue this Act Force & Co., are manufacturing pro for another five years. I do not know ducts for Defence and they too have not what is the approach of the Government paid the electric bills amounting towards the working class. The present to Rs. 40 crores. In this way the policy of the Government is to give a lot liability is accruing. Sir, the hone of encouragement to the employers by way Minister is aware that M/s. Amar Dye of tax concessions, concessions in import chem is lo~ated in Ambarnath and they and exports, concessions Ll excise duties have also not paid the electric bIlls delicencing, etc. The textile owners ar; for a very huge amount. M Is. Sarabhai allowed to change their productiJn Chemicals who are already in the black pattern, that is, production of cotton list of the Government have also not paid goods to other produc ts. All these the electriC bills. The company has not paid the electric bills and therefore their concessions have been given. I would workers like to ask the Government: ar.: you factory is closed and about 2000 going to protect the interests of the are out of job. In this way the workers are put to Jot of difficulties. workmen whose percentage works out to 30 or 40 of the tOlal population of this country? What are the provisions made in Sir, in Bombay alone about 20 factories these present Act to safeguard the inter are closed because of non .. payment of est of the workers '1 I am putting this electric bills by the owners. For running question to the Government as weJl as the machines in the factories furnace the bO:l. Members sitting on the Tresury oil is required, but it has not been pro benches. Let them mention a single cured by the owners. In these factories benefit' {'What is the share of the work the employers have dec\dred lay-orrs men in the profit earned by the em and the provident fund and other benefits ployerS? There may be more cOUrt s that are due to the workers have not been to decide the share of the work~rs. But paid to the workers. About 30,000 there is 00 law to decid~ the share of the workers are affected and they are without employers' profits by the workers. Fifty any job. What is the Government's perceot of the workmen in this country policy for these jobless workers '1 What are casual labours, contract labours or are they going to do for them 1 You are 'badli' labours. There are casual labours not gOing to do anything for the working iu tbe Railways and other public sector class of this country because the indus undertakings. You are negl~cting the trialists are engaged in collecting black working class. About 80,000 factories money. On the other side. y.ou a ... are closed an over the country and Rs. banning strikes by workers. FIfty per 3000 are blocked UP. aores cent workers of tbis country are casual labourers and contract labourer.. What Another point is that the sickness in are tbeir rights '1 But what severe the industry i. the creation of the mill punishments you are giving them! With ownert. They mismanaae their miJJs and out warrants or anything like tbat tbe tbe worker. are deprived of their wales polace . officer caD arreat anybody. ' You aDd provideDt fund aDd they are thrown are not bothered about smu&alcrs or 397 Essenlia/ Services SRAVANA 28. 1907 (SAKA) Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 398 others engaged in similar activities. But a manner, tbe workers will revolt one you are providina summary trial for such day against the type of things that are types of provisions, I know th~t you going on. have not used these provisions to a cer tain extent~ but I must say that the As against all this, you are encouraging Government bas been acting against the industrialists to indulge in all sorts of interests of the working class in this things. These people who had com country. mitted frauds at places like Ambarnatll, Bombay are being gi ven loans and they It is most unfortunate that the working are starting their industries somewhere c1ass in this country is neglecting their aho in Madhya Pradesh and other places. voting rights of the time of elections. How are you going to see that this does That is why, you may be getting votes not happen? The same employers, who because of your personnaI charisma. If had committed frauds at one place are you go to Faridabad industrial area, you being encourged at other places. The same will find that fifty per cent of the working party, Congress (I) Government is there class people are temporary, casual in Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra or labourers. They may be voting for you; Gujarat, but what h lVP. you done to I have no grudge for that. But does check Ciuch types of mal-practices 1 You anybody feel happy to keep the postal or are giving all types of loans to these em-· telegraph departments or the railways ployers. BlIt 00 the other hands, you closed? I do not think so. Any party are bringing this type of BiBs to put or trade union sensible leader is not restrictions 00 the workers. In Gujarat happy to have the agitation going on and some agitation had been going on. keep such type of services closed But About five hundre-d people were arrested what is the provision for the workers' and dismissed to create some pressure grievances to be solved ? and put more for.:e on the workers. All these things are going on. Take for example, the Mazagaon Dock at Bombay. The Government is now I, therefore, af'peal to the Government reducing the D .A. to 1.65 per ceot; tbey to correct the employers and indus are forcing this on twelve thousand trialists of this country_ In my opinion, workers. It is a Government under more than the agriculture, tbe country is tak;ng. You are reduciog the D.A. going in for indu~trialisation in a big which they have been getting for the last way. You must put behind the bar 40 years. And you are going to issue a '.hose people who are responsible for OR for that. Now, discussions on the economic frauds and are depriving LIC charter of demands are going on. Government of crores of rupees. The Government is forcing them to accept the ceiling of Rs. 3500/- on The working cla~s of this country has salary, and if they do not accept that, becf)m~ velY sensible and they are you are going to issue a GR. On the not happy to 10 on strike. I ODe hand, you are just forcing the know the.r sentiments. I have got lakhs workmen to accept conditions like re of workers in m'l unions. If tbe number ducing their D.A.. anJ on the other of workers IS less than t wc:nty in any band you are not bothered for casual establishment, accordlag to the existinl contr~t and badli workers. And ir they provisi..>ns of law, tbey cannot have any go on strike, without warrant, the police! union. Because of this provlsl...>O, offi~r can arrest them and put behind workers in thirty per cent of the indu~tries the bar ror six months. The time has and small eSlabLsbm~Dt cannot form a come when the Government must think union. And you are not implemen,ina in terms of welfare of the worken. the Shops Estabjjsh~nt Act in this country. Mioimum \Vales Ac.1 is Dot You may be in power by biB majoritj 9 beinl implemented in this country. but if the Government is ,oio, to neglect the work ina class of this CooGtr1 in such On tbe one bud, you are not prepared 399. Essential Services AUGUST 19, 1985 Maintenance (Arndt.) Bill 400 [Dr. Datta Samant] Limited of Bangalore. Even after 10 to protect the interests of the working years of these strikes the after· effects are class and you are forcing them to go on still there. This hi[~dres the progress of strike, an 1 jf they go on strike, you are the country. Behind all these agitations going to put them behind the bar. Vari and strikes there are some political forces ous industries are covered under this in which had led to the closure of factories the name of Essential Services. Govern for several months. Several such instances ment can notify any in,1ustry any time as have taken place in Hindustan Machine tbey deem fit for thili purpose. Even the Tools and Indian Telephone Industries in State Governments have got the power. Bangalore. MICa Industries company is You bave brought within the purview of anOther important industrial unit in this legislation various establishments of Bangalore which produces world famous the Central Government, and while I am equiprnents like spark plugs, single not supporting that, but v.·hy bring in the cylinder pUlnps muhicylinder pumps etc. private employers and the smaU industries. etc. Tht: workers in this factory were Whatever I talk, I kn~)w, the Govern nOt knowing anYlhing about strikes and ment is not going to accept. but you may lo~k out. It was earning hu~e profits conddt:r rrly suggestion that this law and lot of foreign exchanges. But now should not be extended to private people, there are several unions. Groupism has who are dealing jn certain things. And resulted in clashes conflicts and stabbing therefore. once agair} I oppose tooth and incidents. The Management is asking nail such type of Am~ndments. It is the employees to take premature retire insulting to the working class, what the ment. Treasury Benches or the ruling party are dl'irg. Therefore. the working class in There will be strikes even for petty and this country will never tolerate such type frivolous reasons and this results in lock of pressures on them. Definitely ~ I out. Such incidents are taking place in again appeal to the Government to with Railways, telephone department and in draw it, otherwIse. we have to oppose it Transport Department. If a conductor is on the roads with agitations. suspended on some serious charges against bim immediately there would be strike of [Translllli on] en1plcyees. To tackle such situations and *SHRI G,S. BASAVARAJU (Tumkur): to improve production it is necessary to Madam Chairman, I welcome this A mend have such a Bil1. My friend Shri Indrajit mcnt Bill of the Mahtenance of essential Gupta while ~peaking 00 the BilL, referred service; Act I Y 81 brought by our h0D. to tbe conditions and facilities of indus Minister, While supporting the Bil" I tria) workers. I would like to I emind would like to express my views as to how him that the working condition of indus th:s Bill enables increase in production trial workers has improved very well in ~nd improves the economy of our country. our country. When we had gone to Many bon Members have already spoken Taskent in U.S.S.R. on a visit we enquired on tbis Bill and hence I would he very about the working conditions in the bri .The speech was orilinally deliVered in Kannada. 4J) Essential Services SRAVANA 28, ,1907 lSAKA) Maintenance (Amd/.) Bill, 4~&f' will curb such incidents. Hence I welcome really contribute their blood, and toil for I the Bill and' cong~atulate the hon. Home the country. The Government is givina J Minister for bringing this legislation arbitrary powers to these burea'actktl M~haima Gaqdhiji, Futher of our nation who have to implement this law. There pieached and practiced peaceful methods. is no restriction, in the various clauses or' We cannot' encourage 'non-violent methods. parts of the law, to ensure its· ~roPerl There shou1d be' an end to all kinds of application, when it is implemented. 'I strikes and agitations. We are finding disturbing situations in. sectors I ike water Recently, I ha-~ an experience regard~ng supply, electricity' boards also~ Such a the implementation ·.of thiS law. in a, situation should not be allowed to conti small god own whe~e'" about 1 oq .workers; nue. Even for an insignificant cause and are working. This happened ~hen a f.)r 'a meagre amount of bonus. the particular officer, a Dist.rict Collec,tor )n omployees want to go on strike. This is Quilon wanted to take a particular .qq.aii~ not at all correct. For example in Japan, tity of rice from a particular' lot and if the workers want to express their dis favour a person. Then the workers ob- .1 sati"faction they put on a b~dge, but they jected. Immediately, the CollectQr ~_, continue to work. The production never yoked the clauses of the Essential Services SI1 ffers there under any circu mstances. Maintenance A~t. He said that the' Here in OUf country we should see that public distribution sYitem was being ob any production goes up without hurdle. structed by the workers. He arr~sted There should not be Jock out of any them under ESMA. They were arrested industry. The worker can have consulta and produced in the court. How this tions about their grievances but they arbitrary power given to the various exe_ cannot resort to agitation and destruction cutives and bureaucrats are misused of private and public properties It is this is a clear example to indicate it. I imperative for us to welcome this nice was directly involved in tbat case.' "I Bill. This will not at all come in the wanted to talk about this matter with the; way of the fundamental rights of the authorities of the Food Corporation and citizens. It also doe~ not come in the settle it. I had a talk With the Food way of workers' facilities like housing, Corporation aUlhorities. Before' I went food, clothing etc. In fact it enthuses there, people had been arrested undc~ unity and strength!ns our indegrity. ES MA, and taken to the court. There. Therefore once again J welcome this Bill fore. the whole State went on strike. and with these words I conclude my People in all the godowns of the Food speech. Corporation in the entire State of Kerala went on strike, because of tho ColleCtor [English] invoking ESMA that day. I was goina to talk with tbe officers of tbe Food Cor.. SHRITHAMPAN THOMAS(Maft~ poration in Tr ;vandrum. When I; loft kara): This Act wilJ stand in the way Cochin to talk to them:. the Collector of the increase in production in our invoked ESMA saying that these workel!S country. Unless Government takes the bad obstructed the distribution of these working class into confidence, no results things to the public. wbereas tho workers will come in the matter of productioD. had wanted another lot to be distributed, Merely by your compelling a worker to Instead of this lot. They were spoakina produce, he is not gOing to produce. about some dispute regarding rico. Unless you take' him into confidence, anct give him his due share and also give him such service conditions by Which he can I said this only to point out a case exist and work be is not going to' give where the bureaucrats bad misused tbis you results. These compelling laws will law. Is there any safeguard in tbis Act, in no way give any leverage for progress. to deal with sucb things? If tbe ques This is only a retrograde law, a law by tion, viz. bow tbis Act has been used which you want to suppress the working earlier by and large is studied. it will be class, by which the bureaucrats want to seen that it has been used only against sit on the beads of the workinl class who the workins class in this country. 403 Essential Services AUGUST 19. 1985 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 414 [Shri TlJampan fhomas] provisions of ESMA and put them under What is the basic approach (\f our imprisonment. It goes very much against industrial law ? The basic industrial the fundamental jurisprudence of our Jaw in tbis country is tbat of collective crimina) law. The onus of proof under bargaining. You are Dot going to give ESMA is on tbe person who is accused. a worker his right merely by his coming, The presumption is that he is guilty. If by himseJf, and asking for it. The a Col1ector says that a wo ker has violat dictum of collective bargaining is an ed ESM A. he i~ produced before the accepted one. That is a fundamental court. It is not bailable. He has to go principle of our industrial la w. The to jaiJ unless otherwise the presiding very jurisprudence says that. So, they officer is sati~fied that it is wrong. Why will have no bargain collectively. When so much power is vested On both '1 they have to bargain collectivel y. they Therefore. the various provisions contain have to join together, they have to see ed in t~js Act are in fact against the fun that they get it. If you are not giving damental principles of our laws. against it, then the Constitution provides, then the working Jaws, and also our experience the industrial Jiw provides. that tbey can is that it is not to prohibit a strike or to go on strike. But now, by virtue of this avoid a strike but to have only a dicta Act, such strikes are, at the discretion of torial rule in the country by the interested the Government or higb authorities, de persons; and by and large what you are dared illegal and as those violating giving is you are giving the power to the ESMA. Then they say tbat those things bureaucrats to the persons who are con ceme under the Essential Services Main trolling this affair, the maximum power tenance Ordinance. These various pro in this Act, and they misuse it. There fore. I oppose this Act by all means and vj~jons in this Act directly cut the root of the collective bargaining. These hit the request you to withdr[tw this amendment. fundamental rights of the working class in this country. Tbis is the discre lion SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN (Cooch Biven to tbe various autborities including Behar): Mr. Chairman ESMA, we had any industry as the government deem fit discussed a few years back fOf. a long within the purview of the Act. giving them time. and we are very much opposed to the maximum right. and therefore it is this Bill, though my friends on lhe op. being nlisused. This is against tbe inte po~it side. Congress I MPs today, are rest of tbe working class. not SO much vocal, at least, they are supporting this Bill. May I know from the hon Minister through you whether If you analyse our' past experience you this really for the essential services or for will find that tbe country's progress is the employers' services. The are entirely retarded not on account of strikes by the for the employers' ~ervices. I Jc~uest the working class in this country but because hon. Minister to re-name it as employers' of certain other facts Most of the fac services Maintenance Bill. In this \'ery tories are closed not because of the strikes Bill why are they asking for extending the out because of the mismanagement of the life of this Act by another four or five employers. Has government taken any years? Those who are with the working action against any management for not classes. we people, must see that this Act running a factory on account of mis is dead this very hour t or very minute. management? What is happening in It should not be lengthened even for a Dalmia Nagar now? About 20,000 single second. workers are in the streets. There was a report in tbe Press tbat the ladies in that AN HON. MEMBER Even for a area had to seU themselves for their Hve second 1 lihood. What have you done agaInst Dalmia? They could not run the factory SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN: there. The workers are for a long time Yes, I do Dot want it to be alive even for in the streets. Could you invoke ESMA a minute, because this is an anti-working against tbem? When these workers classes Bill. It is an anti.. labour Bill. It is baraain for their wages, you invoke the a Draconian BiU. lhrough this BiU-we 405 Essential Services SRAVANA, 28, 1907 (SAKA) Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 406 have discu~sed this earlier also-the is scope for ESMA. How many days Governme~t wanted to curtail the rights have been lost? How many workers of the working classes, the rights which have been On strike ? How many lay-ofCs they have acquired which mean the right were there? How many closures were to unite, the right to organise. the right there? It is certainly more than that to collectiv'e bargaining and the right to in West Bengal ! strike. And they want to curtail all these rights of the working classes. AN HON. MEMBER Because of the opposition. Madam Chairman, throtrgh you I would like to request the hone Home SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : No Minister to read the pages of the history. Certainly not. Because of you people: These rights were given to the working You have not been developing any favour. class people of India, not by your grace, able conditions for the middle classes. not by the grace of the Home Minister or the grace of tbe Prime Minister, but MR. CHAIRMAN You please it is t he working class people who had address the Chair. shed their blood and sacrificed tbeir lives and acquired these rights. Definitely you SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN· Yes are on the side of the employers I am addressing the Chair. Re~din~ tbe observations made, may I ask through AN HON. MEMBER: I do not you. tbe hOD. Home Minister whether understand. he knows what tbe condition of anotber working class people is, .those who are not SHRI AMAR ROYPRADHAN : You organised? Does bc know th~ condi will not be able to understand it. tion of tbose who are the unorganised sections of SOCiety, those agricultural labourers whose strength is 2 .. 5 crores This Bill win be helpful to the Police and with their families it comes to 10 people because when tbis Bill becomes crores? Have you applied this BSMA an Act. the Police will be able to work on tbe landlords, kulaks, in any case? according to tbeir sweet will, tbey will be You wi)) find not a single case. It is in able to arrest and put the workers be your own interest, in the interest of tbo hind the bars. employers, mill-owners, etc. So we are very much opposed to it and we oppose May I know one thing? In tbese jt tooth and nail. Objects and Reasons you did not mention SHRI AMAL DAITA (Diamond Har it. But you have mentioned only "The bour): This Bill whjch seeks to in experience in the work.ing of tbe Act crease the life of this draconian measure during tbe last four years has sbown that . which was all along opposed by the de-. it is most useful aDd cffective.·' Madam mocratic people of tbe country, by ano Chairman, the first tbing is, I like to tber five years, should be thoroughly protest-and protest vehemently-because condemned, This is against the Funda it is thc West Bengal Governmcnt who mental Rights enshrined in Chapter 3 of have never applied tbis BSMA in West the Constitution which give libert), to the Beogal tbough the bOD. Home Minister person, freedom of association and all a few days back said it; with fun res kinds of freedoms. But aU these arc ponsibility I can challenlc tbat the West now being taken away by this BiJl, It is Bengal Governmcnt bave never used this also against the Directive Principles of Act in Weat Bengal, at least. the Constitution which, amona other tbings. assure the workers fair· wages One thing, may I ask from thc Home security in employment, etc. All t~ Minister ? What is the net result in his own will remain empty words as they arc Dot State, Maharasbtra? There have been able to 10 OD strike to lot their nahts strikes and other things there where thore implemented. There is no question of ...,- - " (407 Essential Services AUGUST 19, t 985 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 408 , tShri Ama1 Datta] the workers. They cannot ,bargain .. , They cannot go ()D ~trike even for fifteen days collective'bargaining jf the people, on the , one side cannot go on strike. This' is a ,tho~gh they h~ve g0t the power to do so fundamental 'priociple of labour 'law. because they are, so down and Qut., i I J~~Y Naturally these Directive: Principles have cannot remain, out of employment, -t~ey become nugatory by virtue of this Jaw so ,cannot remain without wages Even then the Government thinks it necessary to .,far as it ~pplies t~ labour. bring such a nr'aconian'measure to out Jaw all strikes whenever they want. This The expectations which were arou~ed is 'tota11y an a'rbitrary measure. Th is is by the Government by th~ir thurrlpiug 'against democratic principles. This is majority, all are being belied now. an against the Constitution and this is agaiD~t ·l!veryday we find that new measures are alJ promises which fhe' Government makes -being enacted which are taking away ,the from time to time. What htlppe'Os when righi's of the' w'olrkets and' the'-'pe~ple. the employer does nut pay bonus, 'when the employer H:fuse~ to pay gratuity, when :. This Jaw· would 'have: 1apst'd on' 23 it worker, on retirement, does Dot get his September. But now 1111s is goTng to- be provident fund? ThIS is what is happen implemented fer another perjod, of. five iD~ in the jU1e indu'stry. I am told th~t ·Years. This Government could have more tharr Rs. ,60 cn~res are due 'ftom the Telied on its strepgtb and left it to die emplo},ers by way of provident fund, and taken approprinte measures if an What it tHe Goternment do ing about it? occasion arosr .. ' . I have asktu the Regional' I?Iovident I-und Commi5lsioner He says Iht:y have , ~hy this par_ticuJar- )\.cf is now l)e:iog gone to the court and tl-e court -has ~ought to be extenaed 'is tha't ':t'~~~USt;, asked them to pn)' in ._ipst'\}n"cnls hut they tbey say, that tr.e. situation still remains ,lre not paying the jnst~lments, So, they ibe~sarrie·.~ ~ Ho~ is it that the .s.ituation do not do ar yth ing IT0J e to see t hat the Whic~, a~c,~~d'ing·,to. ~~elJ1.,.'~o~peHe.? them ~mployets pay; tp~y do not put" the /6 enact thIS Jaw In J 981 'remaIns the employers behind the bars under thi~ Same 1 -ihe pi:~cf~'c:io~ h~;iq~reas~'d, in kind f'f a Jaw. There tney are ap'plying this country. We have got a steck of only the ordinary L3\';' by \\ hich the court foodgrains of 30 million tonDes' \\hich C8B g~ve 'reti~f to the emdoycr. Bt'lt th!e; Chairman of Fe! says \\ill be about, when it ~omes to the \\orkmt:J1, the ordi 40 miilion', tonnes ' so'on. A.od he says, nary 1a\\ does not suffice. They have to th'~t it win" have to be 'destroyed unless bring such rreasu es to see that they obey quickly distributed to the 'peo'pie ~ 'Wh-y? the: instructIons: It is 110t for increasu::g I~. it because we have too much to eat 1- production, In'cre::rsir1~ prodection for' wl1at purpose?; 'Por' just lettin~ these: goads perish? . 'Tt1£~t should riot be ·the" No, it. .is becay~e people )(fo not; have the purchasing ,power. Similarly, we h:lve objective'. It· i~ just ta satisfy the_ir o\\n w'f'tirns' and cit'pnct'! Jthat It he 'Centra.l g~.,.tbe coa, 'S\~k,rat tbe pjf~c;ads of the Government an emp1oye1. its flffieers or*§lof~re,..· thQQ ',DO million tonDes~' as as "the employers and the manag'_':rs. as Why u·? .;,De~lise the people 'do the' 'custodirlns of the right's ahd int'erests-; not bav~, tb,e . purchasing _ po,wer.~' of 'the employers~ class as a whole, is extetidin~ the j'life" of 'this Draconian' 14-.00 hrs. ,:r measure. \\'e oprose it w~ole'heartedJy': - I ' Whenever we p'roduce one minion or half 'THE MINISTER OF HOME AFFA1RS'i a -mijfjon ~;tdnne' ~'{re steel than seven or (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN) ': Madam Chair-" eisthl ;rfiillion. tonne~ -~hich ,is the nonnal man, the provic;ions of the Essenfial productipn, 'there' is a glut 'in \fie)na_rket. Services- Ma,jntenance Ac.t aT~ pr House. Unfortunately" so man~ things it ~an create, they are aware of, the same, have been said as if this measure is being and that is why both'the Slate -Govern brought before the House for the first ments -of courset there are other,' State time. This Act was passed in the year Governme'rlts als'c' which have supported 1 981 and the period is going to be over this ~easure_:_have requested that the by 23rd of next month. That is why this 'pr~visi6n's of this Act sbould b.!· exten'ded measure has come before the House that for another fi~e Ye~rs.'" . ,W(! want thj~ provision to be extended by ,: ' I " ' , an'other five years. Before we took the I have been surprised at t1e way' the decision of extending the period of this entire thing has be~n p'ut by 'some of th~' measure, w~ consulted the administratjve hon. Members. I cannot possibly say fninistries, we consulted the respective thqt hOD. MemberS have' not gone thr'oush State Governments. Barring tYto or three, ihe prr5visions bf the- '1lill They' have I must say t~at all th~ State Governrn~nts gone : through the provisions of the Bill, \\lanted extension of the provisions of and they 'know it for cettain that it· is not Essential Service Maintenance Act for violative of: any of-the provisions \vhicb another five years •• ( Inr'errlipt;~'7). are contained in the Industrial Disputes Act. There are certain things which~ in SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: They ,are fact, are J110re tha:l what the Indu5trial till your governments. Disputes, .Act .contains;, ,Is it ,really tn3~ all the indu;trial rel.1tions machinery ~ , :SHRI S.B. CHAVA:N: I do not want going to be set at naught? Is it their f'ogo into the que'\tion wheth~r 'the State honest oDin ion ~ that tl?-e llla:::hinery w,h.ich CJ:overnrnents' b~Tonging to o~her par-ti~s is set up under the'Indus"trial Disputes also ,have accepted ... f 7,:ftrrupti( m). Act is not going to be availabl~ here3f~e~ for settling any of the disputes? If that is your- impressi~D ," then it' is not corre~t. MR. CHAIRMAN: Please don' t That is the onlr thing that 1 would tike Qisturb hiln. Let him reply ... (Interrllp to bring ·to your n6tice' that all 'th~ --pro ~ions). visions or the Industrial Di~putes Act for contiJiarion 'and adjudication,- every 1'.tep ': SHRI AMAL DATTA: You are very \\ hich 'you otherwise wouid have takell' (a~ilo: in ~aying that West B.:ngal has u'nder the Industrial DIsputes Act, 'are' invoked ESMA .•• ( Interruptions). still available. I " I , MR~ CHAIRMAN: Let him give the SHRI BASUDEB ACHARl' ~: ,\Vhen' ~eply. you can declare any industry as an essential service,...... ~ SHRI S.B. CHA VAN: I think I am g~ing ~o reply ..to thJ.t point. If the hone ,MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do: not Members are ,interested in, finding out as interrupt in the middle. tQ which are the State Governments which , ,- d9 .opt subscribe, to the C )Dgre~s ide3Jogy SH~1 BASUDEB ACHARIA: . Afrel' aQd have ,given their ~upport for extend you declare an' industry as an eS5entiai' ing ....th~ p~ri.od ,Qf the Act.'l wO'Jld lIke· to ... ~entiOn. w,jthout ally fea r of contradictiolJ service bc:cause I have, ,in,,· writing;, with me. AndhrFl P;ra~esh, has reque'\ted fllr extend ... MR. CHAIRMAN: Please do not ing the pr-0visjons 0(- the A-ct pot .. :>nly by disturb. Rt.;;ume your seal: fiV~ ye:lfS but- per.nan~n)Ly, jf I m~y ~rjnJ thjsdlla,tter to the O':1t1ce of the Hmlie. SHRI S.B. CH.4\ VAN :- _., 'I have he:,ud Th~re, af~, other State ,Gqv,~rnm LShri S.B. Chavan] industrial relations machinery is available If it is borne out by facts that the and as a 'ast resort the essential Services industrial relations machinery is available Maintenance Act can be invoked. . and as a last resort if we do not succeed in settling the issue, then only the Madam, there are two or three other provisions of the Essential Services Act points •••••• can be invoked, Dot otherwise. SHRI PRIYA RANJAN DAS MUN. DR. DATTA SAMANT: It is not SI (Howrah) Madam is not in the mentioned there in the Act. Chair. SHRI S.B. CHA VAN : Mr. Datta MR .. DEPUTY SPEAKER You Samant, I know you do not believe in this have to address me. at all because on the floor of the House you have said that even if we got this SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Mr. Deputy pa:-sed, you are going to oppose on tbe Speaker, Sir. I was looking at the paper .. streets. I did not know that you have taken your seat. DR. DATTA SAMANT: Ultimately the working class has to fight on the Another point Which, in fact, bas been street. stated by a farge number of hone Mem bers is that we have been one of the ~jgnatorjes to the ILO Convention' this MR. CHAIRMAN: No disturbance , cuts at the very root of the concept of please. colJective bargaining and there is hardly any freedom of association of freedom of SHRI S.B. CHAVAN : Ultimately, speech and other things. Jt is what the if you believe in this kind of a thing. I hOD Members have stated here. I think do not think there is any scope in a on both the aspects, I can assure tbat democratic set up in this House at lea~t. collective bargaining still continues. When In this House we are trying to convince ] say that Essenlial Services A~t can be each 01her. but if you are going to invoked only as a last resort, it clearly threatCD by saying that ultimaLJy you meaes Ihis: try to your level best at the y..jJj fight the battle on the street, you are negotiating table, try to make fu)) use of f,cl! to do it. I cannot possibly say that the provisions of the Industrial Disputes you C~Dot do it. Act; but instead of going on a strike and holding tbe entire community to ransom, if it can be settJed at that level, wei Jand 14.08 hR. good, otherwise theJe is no other way lift but to invoke the provisions of the Act. [Mil. DEPUTY SPEAKElt in the Chair] So, to the extent tbis is Dot cootrary to the fLO contention, this is also not con. DR. DATTA SAMANT: What you trary to the fundamental right. I don't are saying is not tbere in the Act that it think that anybody can claim that. That will be used as a last resort. is why it was agitated in the Supreme Court. Supreme Court save a very UD SHRI S,B. CHAVAN: It is so. equivocal and a very clear ruling On this. They said that this is Dot a fundamental right of any of the workers. You canDot DR. DATIA SAMANT: That say that gOiol aD a strike is my funda may be an understandjng, but it is not mental right; nobody can stop me from mentioned tbere_ going on a strike. This cuts at tbe very root of certain principles or certain rigbts SHRI S.B. CHAVAN Please &0 which have been enjoined, Whether it is through tbe provisions of tbe Act first. fundamental richt or Dot is a matter T hen you will understand that an the which was rererred to the court aud tbe 413 Essential Services SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 414 court has given a very clear ruling that Central Government. So, the E')MA this does not go at the root of denying was invoked not by the West Bengal any funda~ntal right. Government though in Farakka barrage where this happened (Interruption) What There was another issue which hone is it '1 I would like you to undrstand. Members raised. That was about giving If there is any misunderstanding I cann:>t protection to some of tbe workers who hel p it. Powers under this Act can be are engaged in the private sector. I used only by the Central Government don't th ink that we are trying to cover under Section 3, powers which have been the entire private sector. by the provisions delegated or restricted to power sector of this Act. So long as the production and holding of elections to either State of private sector bas any linkage with Assemblies or Parliament. These are the either defence or security measures Or an) two issues on which the powers ha ve been services which are considered essential dolegated to the State Governments. But only those areas are being covered. All there are 4 States where the powers have the private sector is not proposed to be not been delegated. West Bengal happens covered under the provisions of this Act. to be one of these 4 States. So the So wherever such conditions are prevail question of invoking provisions of ESMA ing, in fact, tbey will have to try at the by West Bengal Government cannot by Management level some kind of an amic any stretch of imagination ... (Interr:lptio1f). able solution. But by nO stretch of This was total misunderstanding and that imagination should we create conditions is why I am clarifying the position. hy which the entfre community at laric should be made to sutTer. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIYA: You said that West Bengal has invoked A point was made by hone Member ESMA. Shri Indrajit Gupta that powers have been given to all tbe police officers and their ranks have not been mentioned. So SHRI S.B. eHA VAN West Ben- these powers can possibly be misused. I gal ...... can well understand the apprehension ex pressed by him and that is wby while issuing the guidelines we will take care to SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: "West see that powers need to be exercised only Bengal has invoked ESlVIA H -That is by 0 fficers of particular ranK and what is there in the proceedings. not below the rank of a particular offi cer SHRI S B. CRA VAN: If the West Bengal Government has not been dele SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA Why gated the power. I don't know how this don't you put it in the Act? kind of interpretation can be made. SHRI S.B. CHAV AN: I don't think that it is necessary to put under the Act SHR"I BASUDEB ACHARTA: We because there might be conditioQs in which know that. You say that \Vest Bengal some provisions may be required. Guide also invoked ESMA. 'West Bengal' means lines certainly we can issue. Officers of West Bengal Government, not 'in West a particular rank wiU be ab Je to do it. Bengal' those powers are involved. Then there is one point 00 which I would like to clarify the position. There AN HON. MEMBER By Central seems to be some misunderstundiog about Government. invoking provisions of bSMA in West Bengal to which I had referred to. If hon. Members were to go through section SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: By 3 of the Act tbey will find that powers Central Government. You go through under this Act can be used only by the tbe proceedings. 41 5 Essential Services AUGUST 19, 1985 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 416" SHRI S.B. CHA VAN: Hon. Member, This is all that I wanted to are you not prepared to accept what I explain. I would request tbe House to say now. or are you going to insist on pass this Bin. saying, ~No, no. this is what you said" ? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER; If the AN HON. MEMBER: Why do you House aglees, 1 shall put all the amend~, ments to the motion for consideration, mislead the House ? together to tho vote of the House. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: There is nO SOME HON. MEMBERS: No. question of misleading the House. 1 hey should be put one by one. (Interrllptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: If you want', we can put one by one, but we can put all of them together. SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: You sai_d do that day that West Bengal also SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIYA: Sir" invoked ESMA. I want that my amendment b.: put separa tely. You did nol a})ow me to speak on ( Interruptions) my amendment. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: He SHRI S. B. CHA VAN: I think tbis already spoke. was what I wanted to explain. I thiD~ I have done my best to explain to the h"0n. Members as to how things stand in West SHRI BASUDEB ACHARIA: Not Bengal. There are three or four Slates on my amendment. where the powers have not been delegated, and that is why there is no question of (Interruptions) any... _ (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Then d~ r SHRI BASUDEB ACHAR{A: ¥JU do you 'vaal division? saId tne West Bengal State Government invoked the provisions of ESMA. SHK.I BA~uDEB ACHARIA: Yes. ; SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: I think if the hOD, Mc-mbers are interested, I can quote MR. DE-PUTY SPEAKER: The tlie figures, I need oot go into all those question is : details. '''That the Bin be circulated for' the (Interruptions) purpose of eliciting epinion there on by the 15tb September 1985. ,t SHRI H.A. DORA: What are the other States '1 Let the lobbies be cleared- SHRI S.B. CHA V AN: Most of the MR. DEPUTY -SPEAKER: Now, tbe State' Governments have their own l.obbies_have been cleared. The question is: Essential Services Maintenance Acts also. This is the G~ntraJ Act and under the Central Act it is only the Central That the Bill be circulated for the purpose of eliciting opinion there Governnment who can possibly invoke on by the 1 5 tb September, 1 985. the powers UDder this Act. 417 Essential Services SRA VANA. 28, 1907 (SAKA) Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 411 Th4 Lok Sabha divided. NOES: DIVISION N,o. 1 Abmad, Sbri Ssrfaraz Akhtar Hasan, Shri 14.26 hrs. Azad Shri Gbulam Nabi AYES: Bagbel, Sbt-i Pratap Sing. Bairagi, Sbri BaIka vi Acharia, Shr; Basudeb Barman, Sbri Palas Banerjee ,Kumari Mamata Bbaga1, Shri H.K.L. Basu, Shri Aoil Bbarat Singh, Sbri Datta, Sbri Amal Bhardwaj, Sbri Paras ram Ghosh Goswami, Shrimati Bibha Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindbu Gupta, Sbri Indrajit Birinder Singb, Shri HaDnan MoUab, Sbri Charles, Shri A. Hansda, Shri MatilaI Chavao, Sbri S.. B. , Iyer, Shri V.S, Krishna Dalwai, Shri Hustaia Mahata, Sbri ClMUa Das Munsi, Shri Priya RaDjaa Malik, Slu; Puma Cliandrl. Dennis, Shri N. Masudal Hossain, Shri Syed Desai, Shri B", V. Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta Dhariwal, Shri Sbanti Pathak, Shri Ananda Digbe, Sbri Sharad Rao, Shri A.J. V.B. Mabeswara Digvijay Sinh~ Shr.i Roypradban. Shri Amar Saba, Sbri Ajit Kumar Gomango, Sari Giridhar Saha, Sbri Gadadhac Gulla. Shrimati Phwrcna Samant. Dr. Datta Jagan Nath Prasad. Shri Tbota, Shd GopaJ ICrishaa lain, 8bri Nihal Singh Tulsiram, Shri V. lain. Sbri Virdhi Chand« Yadav. Shri Vijoy Kumar' 'angde, Shri Kbelan RaID Zainal Abedin, Sbr.i JiteJ1dra Prasada. Shri 4 J 9 &3entlal Servfc~s AUGUST 19, 19'5 Maintenance (Amtfl.J BID 420 Jitcadra Singh, Sbri PaDt, Shri Ie.C. Jujhar Sinlh, Shri Pardbi, Sbri ICesbaorao Itamla Xomari, Kumar; Patel, Shri Ahmed M. :Khan, Shri Arif Mohammed Patel, Shrj C.D. Khant Shri As)am Sher Patel, Shrj Ram Pujan X.ODyak. Sb,j Cbinswang Patil, Sbri Shivraj V. KrishDa 5mBh, Shri Panwar, Shri Satyanarayan Kuehn. Shri Gangadhar S. Pilot, Sbrj Rajesh E.1lIJl8.ramaDgalam, Sbri P.R r Pradhani, Sbri K. :Kurien, Prof. P J '" Purohit, Sbri Banwari La] Mallick, Shri LaksluD8D Pushpa Devi, Kumari Mane, Stili Murlidbar Qureshi, Shri Aziz J,{anorma Sin&h, Shrimati Rai, Shri I. Rama Mehta, Sbri Haroobba; Rai, Sbri Raj Kumar Mishra, Shri G .S.. Rajeswari, Shrimat j Basava Rajbans, Dr. G.S. Mishra, D,. Frabllat Kumar Ram. Shri .Ram Ratan Misbra, Shri Uma K.ant Ram, Shri Ramswaroop Mob3llty, Sbri Brajamobao RaBa Vir Singh, Shri Murthy, Shri M.V. Chandrashetara Rao, Sbri P.V. Narasjmba MushraD, Shri Ajay Rao, Shri V. Krishna Nait, Sbri Shantaram Ratb, Sbri Somnatb Naikar, Sbri D K. Rathod. Sbri U ttam Neekhara, Shri Rameshwar Ravani, Sbri Navin Oraon, Sbrimati Sumati Rawat, Sbri Harish Pande, Shr; Raj MansaJ Pandey, Shri Damodar .Reddy, Sbri B.N. Panika, Shri Ram Pyare Set hi, Sbri Ananta Prasad * Wron&ly voted for NOES 421 Essential Semcea SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Malllt~ce (..fnull.) Bill 422 ShaiJesh. Dr. B.L. Yadav, Shri Shyam Lal Shanmusam, Shri A. C. Yadava, Sbri D.P. Sbanti Devi, Shrimati Zainu. Basber, Shri Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Subject Shervani, Shri Saleem I. to ~cction.* tbe result of tbe Divisioo is: Shivendra Bahadur Singh, Sbri A.YES 23 Siddiq, Sbri Hafiz Mohd. NOES · 112 Sorcn, Shri Haribar Sultanpuri, Sbri K.D. Suman, Shri R.P. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER. : Now, I wilt put Amendment No. 2 moved Swami Prasad Singh, Sbri by Shri Basudab Acharia to tbe vote of the Hotie. The CIluCitioD is : Swell, Sbri O.G. That the Bill furtber to ameU Tewary, Prof. K.K.. Essential Services Maiateoanco Act, 1981, be refeaed to a loiat Thakur, Shri C.p. Committee of the Houses coo sisung of 1 S memben, 10 fro.. Thomas, Prof. K. V. this House. aamoly :- Thungon, Shri P .K. (I) Shri Ajoy Biswa Tombi Singh. Shri N. (2) Shri S.8. Cbavaa Tripathi, Dr. Chandra Shekhar (3) Shri SaifuddiD Cbow~ Vairale, Sbri Madbusudan (4) Prof. Madha Dandavate Vanakar, Shri PUDam Chand Mithabhai (S) Shri Indnjit Gupta Venkatesan, Shri P .R.S. (6) ShrilDati. Geeta Mukherjee Verma, Dr. C.S, (7) Sbri C. Madbav Reddy Vir Seo, Shri (8) Shci Ajit Kumar Saba Vyas, Shri Girdbari LaI (9) Shri K. p. Unnifaistaaa; &Del Wasnik, Sbri Mukul (10) Shri Basudcb Acbaria •• The following Members also recorded their votes : A YES: Sarvasb ri N. V.N. Somu. N. Venkata Ratnam. Dr. Sudhir Roy. Slui S.Y. Ouraddi and Shri B.N. Roddy. NOES: Sarvashri J. Cbokka !tao, Prakash V. Patil, Guntdaa Kamat, S.G. Oholap. Kammodial Jatav, 8uth Ram, Jai Prakash Aaarwal, Manveudra Sinah, G.S. Baaavaraju, Dr. K.G. Adiyodi, Shri P.A. Anthony, Prof, MoijjqJuq KamSOD and Shri Manlcu Ral'l\ SocIi. 423 Essentia 1 Services AUGUST 19, 1995 Maintenance (Arndt.' Bill 424 and 5 from Rajya Sabha ; and S from Rajya Sabha ; that ill order to constitute a sitting of That in order to constitute a sitting the Joint Committee the quorum or tbe Joint Committee the shaH be one third of the total Quorum shan be one-third of number of members of the Ioint the total number of members of Committee; the Joint Committee; tbat the Committee shaH make a tbat the Committee ~halJ make a report to this House by the 15th report to this House by the 15tb Septemebr, 1 985 ; September, 1985 : that in other respects the Rules of that in other respects the Rules PrOcedure of this House relating or Procedure of this House to ParHamentary Committees relating to Parliamentary Com shall apply with such variations mittees shan apply with such and modifications as the Speaker variations and modifications as may make ; and the Speaker may make ; and that this House do recommend to That this House do recomrrend to Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabba Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do join the said Joint Committee do join the said Joint Committee and communicate to tbis House and communicate to this House the names of 5 members to be the names of 5 merr,bers to be appointed by Rajya Sabha to appointed by Rajya Sabha to the the Joint Committee. (2) Joint Committee. 12) Let the Lobbies be c1t~ared- The Lok Sah/:o d€l'ided. Now. tbe Lobbies have been cleared. DIVISTON No. 2 The question is : 14.32 hrs. That the BiB further to amend Essential Services Maintenanct! Act~ 1981, AYES: be referred to a Joint Committee of the Houses consisting of I 5 Achal ia, Shri Basudeb members, 10 from this House, nameJy:- Barman, Shri PaJas Basu, Shri Anil (1) Shri Ajoy Biswa! Dandavate, Prof. Madhu (2) Shri S.B. Chavan (3) Shri Saifuddin Chowdhary Datta, Shri Arnal (4) Prof. Madhu Dandavate Dora, Shri H.A. (5) Shri Tndrajit Gupta Ghosh Goswami, Shrimati Bibha (6) Shrimati Geeta Mukherjee Gupta, Shri Indrajit (7) Shri C. Madhava Reddy Guraddi, Shri S.M. (8) Shri Ajit Kumar Saha (9) Shri K.P. Unnikrishnan; and Hannan Mollah, Shri (10) Shri Basudeb Acharia Hansda, Shri Matilal' 425 Essential ServiCf!s SRAVANA 28,1907 (SAK.:l) Mainteno~ce (Amdt.) Bill 426 Iyer, Shri V,S. Krisbna Chokka Rao, Shri J. Mahata, Shri Chitta Dalwai, Shri Hussain Malik, Shri Purna Chandra Das Munsi, S·hri Priya Ranja1l Masudal Hossain, Shri Syed Dennis, Shri N. Pathak, Shri t\nanda Desai., Shri B. V. Raju. Shri Anand Gajapathi Dhariwal, Shri Shanti Rao, Shri A.J.V.B. Maheswata Dighe, Shri Sharad Ratnam, Sbri N. Venkata Digvijay Sinh. Shri Roy, Dr. Sudhir Ganga Ram, Shri Roypradhan, Shri Arnar Gholap, Shri S.G. Saba, Shri Ajit Kumar Ghosal, Shri Debi Saha, Shri Gadadhar Gomango~ Shri Giridhar Thota, Shri Gopa1 Krishna Guba, Shrimati Phulrenu Tulsirman, Shri V. Jain, Shri Nihal Singh Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar Jain, Shri Virdbi Cbander Zainal Abedin, Sbri Jangde, Shri Kbelan Ram NOES: Jena, Shri Chintamani 3itendra Prasada, Shri Azad, Shri Ghulam Nabi Baghel, Shri Pratap Singh lujhar Singh, Shri Bairagi, Sbri Balkavi Kamat, Shr; Gurudas Banerjee, Kumari Mamata Kamla Kumari, Kumari Bhagat, Sbri H.K.L. Kamson, Prof. Meijinlung Bharat Singh, Shri Khan, Shri Ariff Mohammad Bhardwaj, Shri Parasram Khan. Shrt Aslam Sher Bboi, Dr. Krupaslndhu Khan, Shri M Birinder ~ingh, Shri Krishna Singh, Shri Charles, Shri A. Kuchan, Shri Gangadhar S ... Cbavan, Shri S.D. Kumaramangalam, Shri p.R.. 427 EsMllllfal SerPicn AUGUST J9. 1985 Maintenance (Amtlt.) Bill 428 Kurlen, Prof. P.1. Paowar, Sbri Sat18Darayu LOWaDl, Shri WaDlpb. Pilot. Shri Rajesb Malick, Sttri Latshmaa Pradbani, Shri K. Maoe, Shri MUrlidhal' Purohit, Sbri Banwari La) ManveBdra Sinp, Sbri Pusbpa Devi, Kumari Mehta, SIlri Haroobbai Qureshi, Shri Aziz Misara, Sbri O.S. Rai, Shri I. Rama }.fishra, Dr. Prabhat Kumar Rai, Shri Raj Kumar Misbra, Sbri Uma Kant Rajhans, Dr. 0.8. Mohant" Silri Brajamohan Ram, Sbri R.am RatD Murthy, Sh,i M. V. Cbandrasbekar. Ram, Sbri Ramswaroop Murugaiah" Sbri A.R.. Rana Vir SiDlh, Sbri Naik. Sbri Shantaram Rao, Shri J. VehgaJa Najkar~ Sbri D ..K. Rao Sbri P.V. Narasimba Rath, Shri Somnath NarayaDaD~ Shrt K .. R. Redhod, Shri Uttam )Jeekbara,. seri RamesbwaJ" Ravani, Shri Navin Ora_, Sbrimati Sumat; Rawat, Shri Harish Panele, Sbri Raj Mania) ••Reddy, Sbri K. Ramachandra Pandey, Sbli DamodaJ' Sethi, Shri Ananta Prasad Pande,,. SAri Madan Panika, Stui ~Dl Pyarc Shanmugam, Shri A.C. Shanti Devi, Shrimati Pant, Shri K..C_ Pardbi, Sbri K.esbaorao Shastri, Shri Hari Krishna Pate), Slari Ahmed M. Sbervani, Shri Saleem I. Patel, SDri C.D. Sbivendra Babadur SinBh~ Sbri Patel, Shri Ram PUjaD Siddiq, Shri Hafiz Mobd. PatH, Sbri H ..D. Sodi, Shri Mankuram Patil, Sbri Prakash V. Soreo, Shri Haribu Patil, Sbri Shivraj V. Sultaopuri, Shri K.D• ••Wronal, voted for NOES 429 Essential S~""'ces SRAVANA 28 .. 1901 (SAKA) Malntenalfce (Anuit.) BUI 430 Suman, Sbri R.P. is as follow. : Swami Prasad Singh, Shri AYES: 27 Swell, Shn O.G. NOES! 120 Tewary, Prof. K.IC. The Motion was negatived. Thara Devi, Kumari D .K. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I wilt now put Sbri Satyagopal Mishra~ •. Thomas, Prof. K.V. 8mmendment No.3 to the vote of tho Tbungon., Shri P .K. House. Tilakdhari Singh, Shri The tlmpNlment (No.3) wa pul and negatived. Tombi Singh, Shri N. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER.: The ques Tripatbi, Dr. Chandra Sbekhar tron is : Vairale, Shri Madhusudan C'That the Bill to amend the Essential Sf':rvices Maintenance Act, 1981, Vanakar., Shri Punam Chand Mithabhai be taken ioto consideration. n Venkatesan, Sbri P.R.S. The motion W4S adtJpted. Verma, Dr. C.S. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The House will now take up clause by claus= Vir Sen, Shri cOD~ideration of the Bill. Vyas, Shri Girdbari Lal The question is ~ Wasnik, Sbri Mukul "~Tbat Clause 2 stand part of the Bill.'" Vadav, Shri Sbyam Lal The moticm W(fS adopted. Yadava, Shri Bat Ram Singh Clarrse 2 ~ 'added to rhe Bill. Yadava, SOri D.P. Oause 1, Enaamg Formula and Title were added ttJ the Bin. . Zainul Basher", Shri SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Sir, I beg to move-: MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Subject to correction•• , the result of the Division '"That the Bill be passcd.n **The following Members also recorded their votes : AYES: Dr. Datta Samant, Shri N.V.N. Somu, Shri C. Madbav Reddy, Sbrimati Geeta Mukherjee, Shri Ajoy Biswas, Shri B.N. Reddy and Shri K. Ramacbandra Reddy. NOES: Shrimati Manorma Singb, Sarvashri Jagannath Prasad, KammodHal Jatav, Dr. B.L. ShaiJesh, Sarvashri Akhtar Hasan, Jai Prakash Agarwal, Jitendra Singh, Dr. C.p. Thakur, Sarvashri V. Krishna Rao, Ajay Mushran, SarfraE Abmad, Shrimati Basava Rajesbwari, Shri G .S. Basavar~u, Dr. K.G. Adi,)'ocU aad $hci p. A. AotboDy.. 431 E~sent;al SerJ'ices AUGUST 19, 1985 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 432 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion Cbavan, Shri S.D. moved: Chokka Rao, Shri J. "That the Bill be passed. H . Dalwai, Shri Hussain Now Division. Let the lobbies be Das Munsi, Sbri Priya Ranjan cleared. Dennis, Sbri N. The Lobbies have been cleared. I will DOW put the Bili to the vote of the Dhaliwal, Shri Shanti House. The question is : Dighe, Shri Sharad ~~Tbat the Bill be passed. ~ Dora, Shri H.A. The Lok Sabh.:l Divided. Faleiro, Shri Eduardo DIVISION NO. :; Gholap, Shri S.G. GhosaJ, Shri Debi 14.39 brs Gomango, Shri Giridhar AYES; Guha, Shrimati Phulrenu Guraddi, Shri S.M. Agar\\ a1,. Shri Jai Prakasb **Hannan MoUah, Shri Ahmad. sari Sarfaraz Jagan Nath Prasad, Shri Akhtar li~aa, Shri Jain, Shr; Nihal Singh Ansari, Shri Abdul Hannam Jain , Shri V irdbi Cbander Anthony, Shri P A. Jangde, Sbri Khelan Ram Azad_ Shri Gbulam Nabi Jatav, Shri Kammodilal .Ba&he~ Stui Pratap Singh Jena, Shri Chintamani Bairagi, Sbri Balkavi Jitendra Prasada, Sbri Banerjee" Kumari Mamata litendra Singh, Shri Bbaga~, Shrj H.K .. L. J ujhar Singh, Shri 8harat Singh, Shd Kamat, Shri Gurudas Bha rdwaj, Shri Parasram KamJa Kumari, Kumari Bhoi, Dr. Krupasindbu KamsoD, Prof. Meijinlung Birinder Singh, Shri Khan, Sbri Aslam Sher Charles, Sbri A. - Khan, Shri Mohd. Ayub .*Wroogly Voted for A YES. 433 Essential S~rvices SRAVANA 23, 1907 (SAKA) Maintenance (Amill.) Bill 434 Konyak, Shri Chingwang PatiJ, Shri H.B•. Krishna Singh, Shri Patil» Shri Prakash V. Kuchan, Shri Gaogadbar S. Patil, Sbri Sbivraj V. Kumaramangalam, Sbri P.R. Paowar. Sbri Satyanarayaa Kurien, Prof. P.l. Pilot, Shri Rajesh Pradbani, Shri K. Mane, Sbri Murlidhar Pushpa Devi. Kumari Manorma Singh, Shrimati Qureshi, Shri Aziz Manvendra Singh, Shri Rai, Shri I. Rama Mehta, Shri Haroobbai Rai, Shri Raj Kumar Mishra, Shri O.S. Rajeswari, Shrimati Basava Mishra, Dr. Prabhat K.amar Rajhans; Dr. G .8. Mishra, Shri Uma Kant Ram, Shri Ram Ratan Mobanty, Sbri Brajamohao Ram. Shri Ramswaroop Murthy, Shri M.V. Cbandrashekara Rana Vir Singh. Shri Murugaiab, Shri A.R. RaG, Shri J. Vengala Mushran, Shri Ajay Rao, Shri p. V. Narasi mba Naik. Shri Shantaram Rath, Shri Somnath Naikar, Sbri D.K. Rathod. Shri Uttam Neekhara. Shri Rameshwar Raut, Shri Bbola Pande, Sbri Raj Manaa! Ravani, Shri Navin Pandey, Sbri Damodar Rawat, Sbri Barisb Pandey. Shri Madan Scthi, Shri Ananta Praiad Panika, Sbri Ram Pyarc Shanmuaam, Sbri A.C. Pant, Sbri K. C. Shanti Devi. Sbrimati Parubar, Prof. Narain Cbaad Shastri, Shri Hari ~a Pardhi. Sbri Kosbaorao Sbivcndra Balaadur Ski"', Sbr I Patel, Sbri Ahmed M. Siddiq, Sbri Hafiz Mobd. Patel, Sbri C.D. Sodi, Sbri Uankuram iatel, shri Ram ~ SOiOa, Shti a.rlbU 435 Essential Services AUGUST 19, 1985 Maintenance (Amdt.) Bill 436 Sultanpuri, Shri K.D. BIlwas, Shri Ajoy Suman, Shri R.P. Dandavate, Prof. Madhu Swami Prasad Singh, Shri Das, Shri R.P. Swell, Shri G.G, Datta, Shri Amal Tewary, Prof. K.K. **Ganga Ram, Sbri Thakur, Shri C.p. Ghosh Goswami, Shrimati Bibba Thara Devi, Kumari D.K, Gupta, Shri Indrajit Thomas, Prof, K.Y. Hansda, Shri Matilal Thota, Shri Gopal Krishna Iyer, Shri V.S. Krishna ThungoD, Shri P .K. Jhansi Lakshmi, Shrimati N.P. Tomar, Sbrimati Usha Rani Mahata, Sbri Chitta Tombi Singh, Shri N. Malik, Sbri Purna Chandra Tripatbi, Dr. Chandra Sbekhar Masudal Hossain, Shri Syed Vairale, Shri Madhusudan Mukherjee, Shrimati Geeta Vanakar, Shri Punam ChaDd Mitba bbai **Narayanan, Shri K.R. Venkatesan, Shri P .R.S. Pathak, Shri Ananda Verma, Dr, C.S. Raju, Shri Anand Gajapatbi Vir Sen, Shri Rao, Shri A.J.V.B. Mabeswara Vyas, Shri Girdbari Lal Ratnam, Shri N. Venkata Wasnik, Shri Mukul Reddy, Shri B,N. Yadav, Shri Shyam Lal Reddy, Sbri K.. Ramacbandra Yadava, Shri Bat Ram Sinab Reddy, Sbri p. Manik Yadava, Sbri D.P. Roy. Dr, Sudhir NOES: Roypradban, Shri Amar Acbaria, Sbri ~udeb Saha, Sbri Ajit Kumar BarmaD, Sbri Pal.. Saba, Shri Gadadbar' Buu, Sbri ABit . Samant, Dr. Datta Bhoopatlly, Shrf 0. Tulsiram, Shri V. .0/ ; ••WronI1y voted for NOES. 437 St. Res. re : Essential SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Maintenance 438 Service Act, 1981 Yadav, Shri Vijoy Kumar Gazette of India Extraordinary, Part-II, Section 3, sub~tjoD Zainal Ahedin, Shri (ii) dated August 8, 1985, dec laring 'Uranium Industry'. as essential service from the date of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Subject issue of the notification, which to correction· *, the result of the Division was laid on the Table of Lot is as follows: Sabha on August 14, 1985." AYES 127 Sir. Uranium Corporation of India Ltd. (UCIL), a Public Sector Undertakiug NOES: 34 under the administrative control of the A tomic Energy Department was incorpo The motion was adopted. rated in October, 1967. The Corpora tion is engaged in mining and mi11ing of 14.39 brs. Uranium Ore for tbe production of Ura nium Concentrates, Copper Concentrates, (Dr. Datta Samant aud Some other hon. Molybdenum Concentrates and Megnatitc. Members then I~ft the House). Uranium Concentrate is required for production of uranium which is required as a fuel for the Nuclear Power Pro gramme of the country. The Corporation, at present operates as Uranium Mining 14 40 hn. and Milling Unit at Jaduguda in the Singhbbum district of Bihar. STATUTORY RESOLUTION KE : ESSENTIAL SERVICES In view of the strategic nature of MAINTENANCE ACT, 1981 the operation of Uranium Corporation' of IDdi~ Ltd., its promises have been dec lared as 'prohibited area't both under {English] the Atomic Energy Act. 1962 and the THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE Indian Official Secrets Act, 1923. The MINISTR Y OF SCIENCE AND TECH. service in uranium industry is also being NOLOGY AND IN THE DEPART. declared as Public Utility Service from MENTS OF OCEAN DEVELOPMENT.. time to time under the provisions of ATOMIC ENERGY, SPACE AND the Industrial Disputes Act, 1947. ELECTRONICS (SHRI SHIVRAJ V. PATll): I beg to move the following As mentioned earlier, the Jaduguda Resolution: - Mines of Uranium Corporation of India Ltd. are at present the only source for "That in pursuance of sub-section (2) of the basic raw material required for section 1 of tbe Essential Services production of fuel for the Nuclear Maintenance Act, 1981 (40 of Power Programme of the country 198 I), this House approves the and it is essential that the minmg and notification of the Government milling activities are kept working at all of India in the Ministry' of Home times so tbat tbe fuel for the Nuclear Affairs No .S.O. 595(E) .. dated Power Reactors of the country is available August· 8, 1985 publisbed in tho' at all times. Apart from tbe Power •• The following Members also recorded their votes : AYES Sarvaahri Laxman Mallick~ Zainul Basher, B.L. Purohit, Saleem I. Sher. " vani. Dr. B.L. Sbailesb, Sarvashri Prataprao H. Bhoslc, Wangpha Lowang, Prakash Chandra, V. Krishna Rao, Shrimati Sumati Oraon, Shri G.S. Bua varaju, Sbri K.R. Narayanan and Shri Ganga Ram. Sarvusbri' N.V.N. Somu.·~. Ma~hu,v Reddi, Dr. G'. Vijaya Rama Rao and Sbri HaDDP 'folJa4 • . 4~9 St. Res. re : Essentiql Service A.UG~ST 19, 1985 Terrorist Affected Areas 4.40 ¥alntenance Act, 1981 (Special Courts) Amdt. Bill [~ ~~~5j v. ~atin away, put tbe Resolution to the voto of Reactors. the recently commissioned the House. The question is : Research Reactor 'Dbruya9 also depends upon Jaduguda also depends upon Jadu "That in pursuance of sub-secion (2) ;uda plant of th~ Uranium Corporation o( section 2 of tbe Essential Ser f6 India Ltd. for its fuel requiremen ts. vices Maintenance Act, I 9 g 1 (40 or 1981 ), tbis House ~pproves Under Article 246 of the Constitution the notification of the Govern. of India, Parliament has exclusive power ment of India in the Ministry or t.o make laws in respect of Uranium mine. Home Affairs No. S.O. 595 (E), ral since it is one of tbe mineral dated August 8, 1 985, published resources referred to at serial No. 6 in the Gazette of India Extra. of tho Seventh Schedule of tbe Con ordinary, Part II, Section 3, sub. stitution. section (ii), dated August 8, 1 985, declarding 'Uranium Industry' as Taking into account tbe various facts an essential service from the date expJaincd above. tbe uranium indus. of issue of the notification, which try' was declared as essential was laid On tbe Table of Lok service under sub-section 2 of Section Sabba on August 14. 1985." 2 of the Essential Services Maintenance Act, 1981 (40 of 1981) vide Notifica_ Th~ Resolution waj adopted. tioa N~. 8.0. S9S (E) dated 8th Aoaust, 1985 published in the Gazette of IDma Extraordinary, Part II Section 3, Sub-Section (ii) da ted August 8, 1 985. 14.44 brs. The same Notification was laid on the Tabl~ 0{ the Lok Sabba on August TERRORIST AFFECTED AREAS 14. 198.5. (SPECIAL COURTS) AMEND MENT BILL I. co~nd tbe above Resolution fof ~J)Sidcratjon and apPfQval by the [Engli.th) House. THE MINISTER OF HOME AF FAIRS (SHRI S.B. CHAVAN): I bel ~ DEPUTY.SPEAKER Resolu- to move: tion moved. : "That the Bill to amend the Terrorist "That in pursuance of sub-section (2) Affected Areas (Special Courts) of ~tiOR 2 of. the Essential Ser Act, 1984, be taken into consi. v.iQel Ma~tcIlaQCO A~t, 198 J (40 deration'- 0( 19&,1), tbis House approves tlle, DQtificatien Q( the Oovero Tbtt Terrorist A'ifected Af'eaa (Special tnOJ)t of I,dia ill t" Ministry of Courts) Act was cnacted by the Parlia HolJl!O Affairs ~. S.o S9 S (E), ment on 311t Ausust, 1984 replacin, ~ c\Ugust 8, J 9'5. pubJiabed the Terrorist Affected Areas ,S~ial ia- tt»e GNcJtt of 18. Bxtra. Courts) Ordinance, 1984 whicb was pro orilioarr. p~ U, Sectioo 3, S~b nmlpted. 00 t" th 'July, 1 9&4. This lelis lCq.i9D (ii). dated" Au&lJst 8, latioa was eoacted to proyide for speedy 1985, declar~. c~faoium In.. tria I or 'Certain offences in terrorist affect duatcy~. u ao tsseotial .rvice ed areas alainst the bact.. round of terror from tbe date 01 issue of Doti6ca_ and violence 'Which had made fUnctiODia, tiQ~. whicb w..... id on.tbc, TaWe o( tbe ordinary courts for,hrial of o&tAta, 0(, ~ Sab_ Qq Auausl, 14. 99 usually commit&od by -tetloMtl, extromely 19'540 diflleuJa.. have n.ot received an, to I, ~me. apeak A~ hqq. ~. a~ a.are. W~ GIl \he d,Ject. 'r wottld, therefore, ItraJaht- raud-. ~ ~tt1~\.bet~ the Govem- 441 Terro rist A.ffected SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) (Special Courts) 442 Areas Amdt. Bill ment and the President. Shiroman i Akali SHRI N. TOMBI SINGH (Inner Dal provides that Special Courts consti Manipur): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I tuted under the Act will try only cases am glad to support this Bill whicb relating to offences of waging war and heralds the im!)rovement of the p'>1itical hijacking. The Bill seeks to restrict the situltion in the couatry. As W~ discuss operation of the Act by \t~eping only this Bill. I would like to make a special very serious Qr.fences relating to wagiDl reference to th! s:)lution or the probJ~mi war (Sections 121, 1 2 t A. t 22 and 123 of Punjab and J\ssam. The Minister ha9 IPC) and hijacking (Sections 4 and 5 been humble in the statem~nt of the ob· of Anti ... Hijacking Act) within the ambit ject! of the Bill. He ha§ mentioned of the Act, so that only these offences that the situation has not only chSlnged could remain triable by the Sp!cial but the situation has really improved. Courts and cases relating to all other The democratic tradition of the country offences whether pending before the t hat has been generated under this Go Special Courts or under investigation vernment and the present Constitution of could become trible by ordinary courts. India has been very much displayed in this Bill. Whenever su:h 8ms were in I commend the Bill to the hone House. troduced and pass~d, the apprehension of the Opposition and many crities has been MR. DEPUTY-SPEA.KER : Motion that these Bills might be misused. But moved: now we have been that the anger of this democratic tradition. whiCh has been the "that the Bin to amend the Terrorist anger of the gOJd ;nan, i1ev~r leists. This Affected Areas (Special Court5) is like a second mll k on the surface of Act, 1984. be taken into consi water. deratioo. " Sir, we discuss~d some time back in Shri Venkat~ Ratnam the last Session of the House, the Anti. Terrorists A.;ti,ities Bill and it was also SHRI N. VENKATA RATNAM pointerl out at that time by mlny Mem (Tenali): Some Years back. an Amend bers from both sides that O:)vernmcnt ment was passed to the Con~titution should take care while implemeotiTlg such under which emergency could be imposed laws. N1IW, we see that soon after tbe only in certain circumstances or where situation ha"i improved in Punjab and the Prime Mini~ter was pleased to do it, Assam, the Amendment has been brought but it was under conditional rules of just to limit the relevapce of the Special certain Acts. One of the main Amend Courts, where the jurisdiction should be ments i ... the conspiracy and war against confined only to the hijacking act and the State. I am glad that those provi also waging war against the State. This sions were brought into this. I think. shows that Government bad in JIlind a Sir, and my Party also have DO objec very temporary pI In for a stand by to tion to this Bill being passed. The ooly Olcet emergencies. thing is, the- judkious aspect of the matter h~s to be maintdined. The most Sir. I would like to make a special dominating rac~or in this would be the mention of thiS problem -- lhe probJelll$ psychologic::!1 factor and also the emo of Punjab and Assam witb parti~1ar tional factors. I do appeal to the reference to Assam. The hone Home Government not to be led away by any Minister shoulJ hav~ his sba:re of crC;,dit emotions because we are a responsible with th~ Prime Min:ster he. had conUi .. Government guardin. a hu,ac couDtry, a buted &0 much to t ne sol uoon of the huae democratic count(y a..-d the bigS. st Assanl problem This s()lution . 9f the democracy in tbe world. So 'in thIS, I Assam problem. foll.owing tbe solu.tiou do appeal to tbe Govero.meot to be less of.the ~unj.Jb probl~m has led not only. emotional anil more jud~cioU8 io this to I he so\uti.on of the problems or two aspect and illY party and I mnelf peno~ Statts. but aJ~o tbe l)vt:riill litualion in nail), would recommend panicle or the cQually ha~· cefinjleJ, und«;f&_080 dais JJiH.. . a .favourable c\ula,e _ 1 .ould onb like to 443 1(rrorist Affected AUGUST 19. t985 (Speeial COlirtS) 444 Areas Amdl. Bill [Shri N. Tombi Singh] Manipur. Those who were there in the make a rrference to certain areas of tbe Tripura jails-Agartala jails-were given North-East where we have not a genera) amnesty, in the hope that there been able to take sufficient ;dction, the would be a lasting solution, and coopera Slate Government or any Court for that tion from these young and angry people. matter has not been able to take sufficient Soon after the a mnesty was given, I do action against terrorists activities. not know whether the State Government handled these peopJe wrongly. Theso Sir, in the States of Manipur and people shou1d have been properly reha Nagaland. No Court has been ~ bJe to bilitated. I do not know why the pro pass any tangible convictions on any of blem itself was not 80lved. . the amnesty the terrorists or underglound extremists. perhaps did Dot bTll'lg in its results, We can quite understand that tbe outlook becnu5e around 1978, \\e saw the coming of the State and of the national Govern up of insurgent organizations in Nagaland ment is this: trey may be waiting for. and Manipur. Our information is that or rather giving a chance to the extre ttose ,",'ho were arrested and were in mists, and sometimt s terrorists also, to custody in the Agartala ja il were divided, change their views, and extend their co when they came out. The State Govern operation and think of con ling into the ment might have failed to rehabilitates national mainstream. them properly. Our information wae that some of them were armed by ths Another aspect has to be taken special Government through wrong m ethc d care of, viZ. why, in a particular State or bared on erroneous understandiog of the region. no convicri(ln or prosecution bas problem and the other 6ection was thus been possib'e? Is it that the courts or separ aled and naturalJy they might have the pros~cuting agencies themselves have trit:d to form the PLA-tbe People's been just a part of the poli! ica I agita Liberaticn Army. This is a Jesson to us. tions-or what else is the con~ideration '1 Today. if we see the insurgency lying low and the situation apparently peacef~l, So. while irnpIementing the Jaw relat perhaps this might not be the real posi ing to terrorist activities, particularly it. tion That is why, we would like to judicial aspects, you should at least try to request the hon Home Minister to in prosecute those involved some serious volve the Home Ministry and its inte]Ji cases, and stud), why the pro~ecutjng genre agencies and Its military agencies, agencies "ave not bern able to make any to see whether there is any incubation for good ca~e b~fore any court, and also st!e another spell of insurgency in some other why, for that mhtter, any court has not name. If it is so there should be socio been able to, award any conviction. This economic follow up to pacify tbe angry is a matter to be considered. youth. l I would like to know from the hon • OnJ)' the, other day, there has been an, HOllJe Minister, when he repliesy the ambush on a army patrol, killing as many. details regarding tbe results of the appli as seven or eight jawans. There was the, cation of this Act, viz. Terrorist. Afiect kjJJjns of members of ~ Peace Camp by ed ~ Areas (SPecial Courts) Act, J 984, unidentified extremists.. Also, a former, e.I. how many cases under the Schedule member of the Public Service Commission have been taken u'p for prosecution, and and a former Minister, one Mr. Solomon. how many have been convicted under was killed in his residence by unidentified tbis Act. Now, as we discuss tbis amend extremists. This happened in Impbal ment to this Act, there is not' only a itself, . while the killinls of the army. change 1 but also a definite improvement j~wans ,and members of the Peace CamP in tbe political Situation, with the solution bappened in tbe bin areas. This indicates Of tbe Punjab and Assam problems.' So, that wbile problems in major cities bave I would like to make 8 reference to been IQlved. Those in small ones are, cer1aiD pouibihties. I refer to the early atil] to be solved. Major problems liko ·701 wben' we lave a general amnesty to Punjab and Assam have been solved and the iDlur&enti operatiol in Nagalaod and this is very ,ood and welcome improvo- 44 S Terrorist Affected SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) (Special Courts) 446 Areas Arndt. Bill ment But along with these, jf we can democratic tradition!l, particularly our solve these Qutstanding problems in the democratic parties, national parties. North-East, it will be much better. For Political activities should be so orglnised instance, the problem in 'Tripura wil] not as to train younger people particularly b~ solved by 'police or army action alone. in the border areas so that they resort This will need economic and social pro only to the glorious method of the Father grammes. I am not in favour of any of our nation, so that our democracy terrorism and terrorism should be put to will become more complete. more an end anywhere. But the genuine meaningful, and the activities that com~ grievances of the tribal people in Tripura in this field would become a democratic have to be redressed. The original tribal expression of demand. democratic people, the Tripuris have been outnum mvvements, legitimate demands and so bered, I do not like to go into details, on. Political leaders and parties should and naturally they are so dissatisfied and not directly or indirectly support or angry. So, the young people find reasons organise terrorism for temporary ends. to organise uprisings and create law and Wilh these words, I support this Bill. order problems for the State Government. Here I would suggest that police action alone is not the solution. We should SHRI SHANTARAM NAIK (Pan'lji): also see as to what the real difficulties and We must real1y congratualate our Prime problems of these original and indigenQu5 Minister, Shri Rajiv Gan jhi, for the steps people of Tripura are. Now, they have been that he is takin:; followi,g the accord outnumbered by the people coming from between the leaders of P .Jnjlb and hien outside. They form a small minority and self. We must also appreciate the efforts they have become a helpless chunk of the of our Home Minister who bas been population there in their own State. So, assisting the Prime Minister in this effort their grievances b.ave to be redressed their to a::hieve peace in this dedicate area, demands fulfilled within the democratic framework of the Constitution. I do not It is true that this le~islatjon and the mean to say that this should be done at legislations which are c.:>ming especially the cost of our Constitution but their the one which w~ have pas lied earlier, genuine grivances should be fulfilled. are a sort of te mporary statutory measures which we have to enact from When we refer to punishments for time to time for particular aims. I fc!l terrorists, extremists or insurgents or that a day should come when we may Dot whatever name we sive them, they are in req uire even special courts at any pllCC most of the cases, political. Now the in this country_ becluse at a time our, relevance of the Gandhian method judiciafY should be so effective should be propagated. It appears that and so widespread that with the we have lost contact with this very given the number of judges-whatever valuable method. We won our hisloric map be the offences-they should be able independence from the British yoke to dispose of cases withlO a short period· through the Gandhian method. India. of time. Today we need, them because which is a vast country and which the regular courts cannot dis;1ose of these has a glorious Constitution should special matters wit:lin the stjpulat~d time continue to preserve its demo- or within a short time that we would like· cracy. While preserving our democracy t to have. But we should certainly have the genuine and legirjm~te needs of diffe that atmosphere so that a day must come' rent groups and of evell different trade when we should not require special' unions. should be fulfilled. courts in future. However. we have to' i.. . consider this also bc~al1 .. e we hIve am .m So, these people are to be ded the present schedule in wh'ich we ha\c educated about reliance 00 the dropped provisions of sever~\ Acts whjch Gandhian method of DOD-violence. ~re quite serious in nature-for ins~ance~ tb~s . should bf, emphasised through The ln~ian Railways Act~ the Explosiv~ f)Uf 'media,' through our education. Act and so ODe In this Act, there arc tbroUlb our: public activities and ~'": certain provisions which are Quite lerioUi ... ~ , . . ,; . , \ • i ; I 447 Terrorist Affected AUGUST 19, 1985 (Special Courtr) 448 Areas Amdt. Bill . [Shri Shantaram Naik] be any necessity for any sucb Act at all. The amendment wbich has been brolllbt in nature. Today, in order to build U:J a good atmosphere, we have deleted these to it, is to shorten or reduce the scope of provisions from the Act, but we should the original Act. That is welcome. But, see to it that if and when offences under Sir, I ask: what the interest of keep. these Acts are committed, the normal ing this Act alive at all is? What has courts are able to dispose of cases under been the contribution of this Act, whicb tbose Acts speedily, and for which pur has been passed about a year ago, in pose more and more judges should be bringing about a situation in which tbe appointed in those normal courts so tbat accord in Punjab bas come about? Can the normal machinery is not hampered. tbe Home Minister say tbat tbis Act has baen helpful in any respect? Can be say whether it had anything to suppress the In general, we have to strengtht'D our terrroism, or to eliminate the t~rtorists or prosecution machinery. Public prose extremists? When was this kind of Act cutors of inte-grity, have to be chosen to used to enable the Government to tackle deal with such offences. Otherwise, if a the situation politically? The situation faulty investigation takes place, if a public is being sought to be tackled politically prosecutor is not there with serious and there is no necessity for such aa Act. attention and work, thtn each and every The learned speaker~ who preceded me, case is bound to failed. One of my has said that the anomalies in the process colleagues suggested that not many trials of trial and investigation should be elimi- have taken place or in fact convictions , nated; the loopholes thal remain in tbeJaw have been awarded in many of the serious should be curbed. That is everybody's offences. It may be because our prose vjew. It is not only in these terrorist cution machinery is nqt that effective. areas but in normal places also 'where Therefore, we have to stl eogtbcn our there is no terrorism that it should be so. prosecution machinery. But the prosecution machinery is bardly able to detect the loopholes and prevent rIn fact, each case must be bandied by the crime. So, there is a lot to be done 910 prosecutors so that jf one prosecutors in this respect. But unfortunately, the for any reason is not able to attend 10 the Government has scarcely been able to do case the other prosecutor can be available. much, to tackle this kind of problem. Or 8D Additional or A~sistant Prosecutor Laws bave been changed from time to can be there to take up the ca~ so that lime. The Criminal Procedure Code tbe case is not affc:ctc:d. dates back only to 1977, not 80 long ago. But it is not being implemented properly. Further, I would like to suggest to our Unfortunately; there is no body to see 1I0D. Home MInister that we shoul~ have that the Police officers do their work .'machinery to scrutinize what has been properly. The higher SUpel visors do aot done by our investj~atlon machinery and supervise the Jower officials and then also by !be prosecuting officers because again the people wbo are there in tbe we' ~.r'''oflcn seen that 'for one single Ministry. they shirk the responsibility or tauift;.a.e: ftttire case collapses and in spite ensuring overall supervision which is their of all' tbd efforts made by the others the case duty. Ultimately, it is the respon.ibility Is lost due to the fault-deliberate or of the bon. Home Minister. I may., ofherwise-on tbe part of the investilating that even in Delbi if tbe taw and order machinery. There should b, a special problem deterieratel, tbey may, aD)' deJ,· Yfiilance to look into such tbin.. , so that establish epeeial coert. OD the Irouacl our efforts "ill Dot be fruitless. that there is .. break-down of law and order. I once apin cODgrafualale tbe Prime Minister aDd the Home Miaiatet for Therefore, the whole tbinl baa to, bit Creating tbis atmOlptir.re in tho COUDt,)'. looked a~ 'rom the poilU ot view ot .,tat present political. economic aDd' JOCial SHRI AMAL DA ITA (Diamond Hat. milieu. ODe has to study what i. !icitni b our) : Sir, otdinarily, there lhoald Dot 10 our jurilprudcocial .Yltem and why it 449 Terrorist Affected SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) (Special Courta) 450 Areas Amdt. Bill does not keep pace with the developments the democratic framework which we in the economic and political fields. This have. has happened ,and during the last decade or so this has happened very rapidly. The political and economic direction has So, with this appeal I support the gone in one way and the pace of develop measure now being taken. But I appeal ment bas been much different from what that this snould be totally repealed. preceded this era. But the development . in the field of courts, law, jurisprudence, etc. bas not kept pace. Therefore, what [Translation] is necessary is that the Government SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): should be able to look at tbe situation as Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this Bill seeks a whole and to put into effect some to fulfil certain formalities for which tbe remedial measure~ by which they will be Government bad been trying for some able to detect the criminals, bring the time past. Besides, the Bill bas provided criminals to trial and get them convicted. us and the members of tbe opposition This is just not happening.. It is not only parties as wel1 an opportunity to congra in the Centre but in the States also it is tulate the hon. Home Minister and bis not happening. Tbere has been a spate Government on their action to Dormaliso of bank dacoities. I do not think, barriog the situation in the country so that sucb one or two cases, any of these h as been special courts need not be set UP. In detected and < any of thenl convicted, 1984, when tbis Bill was'introduced, the When this is the situation, what will you conditions in the country were bad. Tho do with the special courts? And what is extremist elements were trying to spoil the result of the special courts? Abso the situation and tbat was why the said lutely nothing. You are keeping this Bill bad been introduced at that time, alive in the Statute Book only on one or which was the original Bill. The opposi two grounds, namely, waging war against tion leaders and the entire country were the State But this is such a nebulous agreed that certain concrete steps should concept that I do not think that it would be taken against the extremists so as to really be of practical use. A terrorist who instil in them some fear that there is a murders somebody in a heinous manner, law in the country under which they can you cannot say that he is waging war be awarded tbe several punishment. The against the State. It is only in an ordinary courts were unable to -award that exceptional situat ion where they have punisbment. Possibly, even after the some extra-territorial demands, the setting up of the special courts, many demands which go against the national e~tremists might not have been nabbed interest and integrity of India that this or trial might not have been started particular section can be invoked. againt tbem. But the Bill at that timo Otherwise what happens is that many w ~nt a long way to creat panic among tbo terrorist o~ extremist activities will take extremists. That was the situation in place and the Special Courts Act will have 1984. Government made the situation no application. Will they be brought to normal througb their efforts within a book through the ordinary courts? Tbey very short time. Besides, tbe Bill also will not be. In . fact, the special or no makes the intention of the Government special courts, the situation will remain clear about tbe assurance that they had tbe same. I appeal to the hOD. Home given to the persons interested in Minister and the Government that this normalising the situation in the country Act which is really and odious Act, which through the Punjab Accord. This Bill makes a provision for criminal trial in also seeks to fulfil the promise made to camera and which is against all Dorms of Assam aaitationists with whom an agree jurisprudeDce which we folJow in tbis ment bas been concluded through negoti. country, should be totally repealed ations and io' this way tho Government because it has proved to be totally useless. has been fulfilling all its assurances ono So, say so; call a spade a spade and by one and we hop= that the other people remove it from tbe statute book aitoae in the country would appreciate tbe ther. Do Dot keep it as a blemish 00 feelings of tbe Government and extend 45 1 Terrorist Affected AUGUST 19, 1985 (Special Courts) , 452 Areas Amdl. BUt " [Shri Harish Rawat] country now are 'hoj')eful that the their cooperation in the normalisation of problems that bad been pJaguing this tbe situation. country for the last so many years 'would , be solved one by one and now our country is poised for a big lead forward. A lot bas been said about the Punjab The Gujarat problem and the \ Assam aud Assam agreements, Punjab accord problem have been solved and their results has been welcomed everywhere and the have been quite encouraging. decision to hold elections in Punjab is a step towards normalising the situation there. Some political parties are trying It is true that when some special con to criticise this decision for political ditions arise. the Government has to reasons. - About Assam agreement as bring forward a legislation to meet those well, many political parties are saying so conditions. I remember that this Bill had many tbings for their political ends. been passed in August la~t year and at Fact is that the entire country was very that time the extremists and the &eces -much coneemed about both these pro sionists were very active. Thfse forces blems. But our Prime Minister and his were active not only in Punjab but in -Government solved both these problems Kashmir and other parts of the country through their imagination and thus the as well. Now normal situation prevails people heaved a sigb of relief. People in our countTy and the credit for this felt that a gres t burden is DOW ofr their goes to out Government. This Bill has beads. Therefore, the efforts of Govern two objectives; one to etab1 ish the ment to normalise the situation through Special Courts and the other to prevent constitutional process should be welcomed crime'S like hijacking etc. We are sure if by an. People should not view this any such crime was committed it would decision from political angle. I would be dealt with sternly. If GO\ ernment request my friends in the op{:,osition not continued to take such steps, tJ-.e need for to be apprehensive about the efforts of establishing Special Courts would not Government and view these efforts of the arise in future. As this Bi 11 has been Gove-rnn- ent by rising above party politics. supported by the people on the other side Keeping in view the interest of the as well, I would merely state that ... country, they should extend their \\-hoJe hearted cooperation t(\ the efforts made Our friends have referred to the by the Prime Minister to normaHse the J{ ashmir problem. They desired that situation in Punjab and Assam. With strict watch may be kept on incidents such these words I support this Bill. as the one that t00k ['hee on the 15th August and I entrust the responsibility SHRI RAM PYARE PANIKA therefor persons like the Prof. Sabeb who (Robertsganj) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, are no Jonger in power (Il1t(Jr~IIPtinns). It Sir, I rise to support whole-heartedfy the is necessary to create the right atmosphere Terrorist Affected Areas (Special Courts) which they want Therefore, in view of Amendment Bil1 J 985 brought before tbis the present circumstances. we should House. White supporting this Bill, I support this Bill and pass it unanimously. ~ongratutate hon. Prime Minister· and 1 would request the Home Minister to the Home Minister that they have made have thjs BilJ passed unanimously. it clear to the people of this country thRt the ~ssuraDces given to them by our leaders~ Government and the party ""culd [En1(lish] be fulfilled in toto It would be seen SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Ban .. that OUf party has been making sincere galore South) : Mr. Deputy.Speaker. efforts to fulfil all the promises made to Sir. I wish the hon. Home Minister hJd the people. The hon. Minister in his hrought in a legislation to abolish the speech said that the situation has under 'Special Courts once and for all. Though gone a change but it is not a mere their jurisdiction has been restricted, .still , change. It is a considerabJe improve_ the Special Courts remain. No doubt ment in the situation. The people of the you have explained and we are aware:of 453 Terrorist ,Affected SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) (Special Court!') 454 Areas Amdt. Bill the circumstances under which it was necessary. Therefore. I would only with brought, but 'in ,view of the cordial at. that a day will soon come when we will mosphere created because of tbe Punjab scarp this entire Act. Accord, I certainly feel tbat tbere is no need for this legislation because the. cir Now, what I would like' to know from cumstances hf\ve completely changed. 1 the han. Minister is whether this legisla. also personally feel that having tbis on tion has belped in containing the terrorist the, Statute is also to some extent against activities? How many cases have been' the spirit of Punjab Accord. lodged, hew many have been tried and how many have been convicted? That is I personally feel tha t the preseo t pro. a very important information, which I visions in tbe Indian Penal Code are would request the Home Minister to adequate to deal with the situat ion, par furnish to the House. ticularly those which are intended to be deal t with by the sections which you bave I am sure at least by the next session now added to the new Schedule of this you will certainly bring forward a Bin to Ami!ndment. Wbat is more important completely abolish tbe Special Courts. than a legislation like this is tlla~ our At tbe same time I appeal to the Hon. I ndian Penal Code is very much out Home Minister to bring in an amendrnellt moded and 1t should be amended. I am to the Indian Penal Code, which is long quite aware of that. In my state or take overdue. any other State for that matter and see how the cases are investigated. Even [ Translation] the good cases are spoiled by the bad investigation by investigating authorities. *SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY All this happens because we do not give (Hindupur): Hon. Mr. Deputy Speaker, proper training to the investigation offi Sir, before I start my comments on The cers. I have seen in a Dumber of cases, Terrorist Affected Areas (Special Courts) particularly in the criminal cases, they Amendment BiH. J 985, I am reminded use third degre~ methods for investigating of a proverb in Telugu. weich means tbat the cases and finally those cases fail in a Festival cannot be celebrated in all the courts. I would suggest that it is fervour just by sweeping tbe floor or just high time that the Indian Penal Code is by cleaning the bouse. Before we start amended so that the people could have celebrating the festival we have to attend speedy trial and proper and thorough in to so many preliminaries. I wonder why vestigation on modern methods. It is said this amending legislation bas been brought in many advauced countries there' are forward so suddenly without attending to improved methods of investisatiOD. I certain primary issues. am personalty not aware of these but as Home Mjnister, he must be aware of The parent A~t was enacted in 1984 these. He should study the conditions in tbe ' environment of ever-groWing con in other countries also and adopt such ditions of disturbance in certain parts of methods as are really suited to our COUQ the couotry due to criminal activities of try_ So, I earnestly request you to see tbe terrorists. After this law came iato that investigation methods are reformed. force, certain cases were referred to tbe Special Courts constituted under tbe We ' find in criminal courts tbere is un provisions of the Act. I do not know necessary' delay in conducting the cases. whether these Special Courts have served One of our friends from the rulina Party, tbe purpose for which they were consti Shri Naik, has also mentioned about it. tuted. Without enumerating in the StatO Even tbe Public Prosecutors are not pro. ment of Objects aad Reasons of this BiU perly trained. The require special train the nature of conditions prcvailiaS in iOI . because it ia a special art which is 1984 necessitating the eDactmeDt of involved in prosecution. So, even for Parent Act and the nature of conditiODl public prosecution proper trainina is prevailing DOW, the bon. Ministel' baa *Thc speech was originally delivered in Tolugu. 455 Terrorist Affected AUGUST 19, 1984 (Special Courts) 456 Areas Amdt. Bill [Shri K. Rama Chandra Reddy] Sir, it would bave been much better if the Special Courts have been abOlished introduced this Bill The hone Minister completely. It is inexplicable to me that has not made it clear whether there has the Government has removed from the been improvement now as a consequence ~f the implementation of tbe parent Act. purview of the Parent Act IPC sections 302, 304, 307 and 308 dealing with Similarly, he has not adduced any reasons murder cases, attempted murder, culpahle for removing certain clauses from the crimes not amounting to murder, dacoity, purview of the parent Act. I am sorry robbery and arson including extortion to say that it looks funny for me when I Section 436 of IPC has been taken Ot t see the removal of certain clauses from of the jurisdiction of the Act. The juris the purview of the Parent Act. diction of the Special Court has been restricted to extremely serious offences By including Section 342, 343 and 5~6 of waging war against the Government of I.P.C., pertaining to petty offences In and hijacking. tbe parent Act, the Government arrogated to itself enormous powers. Now, the If the Government is of the view that hOD. Minister has to elucidate the com all terrorist activit ies have ceased, then pulsions under which these clauses have the ent ire Act itself should be repealed. been taken out of the jurisdiction of the Originally alJ those sections of IPC were parent Act and he should also apprise the incorporated in the parent Act because House as to whet her there has been such the Government felt that all the offences a cbange in the circumstances necessitating under the said sections were terrorist tbe repealing of these clauses from the activities Have they ceased to be so parent Act. now with the introduction of this alrend ing Bill 1 That is why I said in the I will now refer to Clause 2 of the begenning that you cannot celebrate a amending Bill which says : festival just by cleaning the house. It augurs wen for the country that we ·'1 5 A. Where the area comprising a have reached an accord both in the Pun judicial zone has ceased to be a jab and in Assam. We are happy that terrorist affected area and no the era of conflict is being put an end to. cases are pending before a Special But I would like to sound a word of Court or an Additional Special caur'ion that peace and amity wi1l DOt Court established in relating to become the order of the day throughout such judicial zone, the Centra I the country just becau~e of the~e two Government may, by notification accords: I wouJd say that it would be in the official Gazette, abolish just wishful thinking jf we base our hopes such Special Court or Additional on these two accords, After the Punjab Special Court'·. accord a Member of Parliament was murdered in Delhi. We could oot even There are two pre-conditions for the trace the criminal, leave alone the ques . abolition of Special Court or Additional tion of bringing him to book. It win Special Court. One is that the area be wrong to assume that the terrorist comprising a judicial area has ceased to activities have been reduced or eliminated. be a terrorist affected area and ~he second You know Sir, that while the talks were is that no cases are pending before a going on 'about Punjab accord. so many Special Court Or an Additional ~pecial innocent people were killed due to ex . Court. J would like .to know who is the plosion of trans;ster bombs in the capital . authority to declare that a jud icial zone After deciding whether terrorism has been ,has been rid of terrorist activities and no completely eliminated from the country, criminal offences have been committed the. aspects referred to in the Bill should io that zone. This amending Bill does ha \ e ber'n taken up for consideratioD • . oot delineate this issue. The hon. Minis ter has to remove thi s lacuna from th is With these words I conclude m ~ amending Bin. speech, 457 Terrorist Affected SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) (Special Courts) 458 Areas Amdt. Bill 15.30 hrs. discuss with the President of tbe Shiro mani Akali Dal and whatever reasolia~/o [English] things Government thought - that we should reach an accord on, a settl:ment THE MINISTER OF HOME AF- was arrived at. But we cannot also ~ FAIRS (SHRI SR. CHAVAN): Mr. oblivious of the fact tbat there is a Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am thankful to a1\ section which is still ag1.inst the the bon. Members who have supported courts, they are still trying to create this Bill This Bill is a sequel to the condItions of disturb'iDCe in that area and accord which was reached between the if we have to think that merely becluse Government of India and the Shiromani an accord has been arrived at, there is DO Akali Oal. This is a part of the accord. possibility of extremist activities in t~at We bad promised that there would be area, it will be a very optimiitic view. change effected by which only two types I, at least for the time being, would not of offences can be tried in a special like to give this kind of an impresiioo to court. As a result of the accord, this tbe country that there is not going to b=: legislation bas been brought before the any kind of terrorism and extremism in House to seek the support of tbis hone Punjab. Of course, they will choose House. their own ti me and methods, but we should not rely on the fact that because Sir, a point was made by some of the of the fact that there has been no incident hon. Members as to how many cases in the recent past, there is not gOing to were there in the special courts. The be any in future. The main purpose position as on 26.7.85 as shown in the why the Special Courts Act was enacted Abstract of Pending Cases in Special was, conditions in that area were such Courts in Punjab is like this: that no witness was prepared to come. even those who were pleading t heir ~ases The number of cases is 3896 and the were also feeling rather apprehensive as accused persons are 7109. to whether they were going to be safe. It will be too much on my part jf I were to say that even some of the Judges were About the cases disposed of by the also not immune from this kind of a special courts, the total number of dis psychology. So, these were the condi posal cases is 3654, convicted-3242 tions in which the pe pie were function. and acfluited-4 t 2. Of these~ ullder ing and it was necessary that special I.p. C. 324 there were 1 64 convictions courts should be created. and four or five and 160 acquittals. Under Arms Act of the'!l were created in Punj:.tb and twei' and otber Acts, the number of cases is were outside. Now, the activities of the 3330; 90 per cent relate to the Arms special courts are going to be confined Act. enly to two major offe~c~-one is t~ea son or wag~ng war against the Slate. Chandigarh: Total number of dis Another is hijacking under the A~ i posals-I 34. hijacking Act. So these are th~ two categories in which the ~pecia) C:>urts So, this clearly shows the importance should try all the offences. Hon. ir ends of special courts and the purpo~e; gave very valuable suggestions - about whether the special courts have been able faulty investigation and the way the to fulfil the purpose for which the special ca~es are being c~nducted by the Puc. c courts have been created. will be borne Prosecutors, that either they are DOt out by the facts. I think it would be too present or that they do not take as mu;;h early for us to take a very hasty decision interest a s they ought to have· taken and as to '!Vhet her the time has come when that is why there is a large nurr· b~r of we have to tbink in terms of winding up acquittals. the courts. Hon. Members are aware of the fact that where it is possibJe to I must say that we are now pursuing discuss political issu~s, we have been able all the3e rna tters and are trying to find t9 ~esort to that, we hav9 bes:n able to out as to whether a pr~per analysis of 459 Terrorist Affected AUGUST 19, 19~5 (Special Courts) 460 Areas Amdt. Bill [Shri S.B. -Chavan] cutors, of courac, needs to be improved. tbe entire situation was being -done, how They need to be given special trainiDg maoy cases have been filed~ what has as also the investigating om cers. been the judgment of the court, what are A point was raised by one of Jhe hone tbe def~ts pointed OQt and why is it Members about the North Eastem that the cases do not result in cODviction Region and the conditions prevaiJing in of the accused and why they have been tbat area. I do not think it is relevant acquitted. Of course, the machinery is so far as this discussion is concerned. there. They scrutinise the judgments of the Still, for his information, I can say that courts but without qualitative improve there are two extremist-if I were to ment. In fact, we are interested in use that word -gangs operating in that bringing about a qualitative improve area. One is what they call tbe Mizo ment. woul~ like to see that those who National Front which operates in Mizo indulge in such kinds of activitie~ should ram and also in Tripura and another is be brought" to book and a fair tria I t~e NSCM which operates in Nagaland. should be given to them Proper iovesti Manipur and also P~Ht of one bordering gat ions must also be there and ultimately State. These are the two extremists it shou1d result in the co lviction of the groups who are operating in those areas. accused persons. We are trying our With one group, I feel Within a very J~vel best and I can assure the hOD. short time we will be able to reach some Members that jf the pendency in parti kind of an understanding which is going cular cases requires that the number of to create a very helpful atmos jud~es should be increased in ordinary phere both in Mizoram and 1 ri courts in order to dispose of the cases in pura and tbe other group which an expeditious manner ~ certainty we will is working there is in fact creating a lot take that into account and if necessary, of trouble both in Nagaland as well as in the number can also be increased. In Manipur-especially, the insurgent Nagas regard to public prosecutors also who and the way have been conducting tbis, they are already there, if they are fouod short, have beellt creating a lot of problems. certainly we can also trunk of increasing That is why a U our aati-insurgeney forces their n umber so that Governmen t cases are fuJly deployed in that area and we do not go by default. are trying to see that we put an end to the kind of insurgency tbat we fiD". Thi s SHRI K. RAMACHANDRA REDDY: will certainly require the assistance and The qU..ili(y should improve-not necess co-operation of the local people and arily the Dumber should increase. unless they fulty co-operate in weeding out these extremist elements from that SHRI S B CHAVAN: T cannot help area, ~t is going to continue for the time it ) do not think that I can assure you being. about the quality of tbe Judges who a~e going to be appointed The Pu bl.'C But I can assure the bon. Members Se",ice Commissions are there, they will that "e propose to take very stringent take care of merit. action against all these extremist elemenrs. We cannot possibly allow some people to hold the entire community to ransom and , SHRI K RAMACHANDRA get some money from them illegally and REDDY: I am not talking about the get some arms also smuggled into tbe quality of the Judges, I am talking country. That is how, these people about the quality of the Public Prose have been creating all kinds of problems. cutors. I think these are tbe main points PROF. SAIFUDDIN SOZ (Baramulla): which were made by some of tbe bon. That you can do. Members. I do not think tbat] need clarify ~Dd ,other points. SHR I S.B. CHA VAN: I take note With these words, J req uest tbe House of it. The quality of the Public Prose- to pass the Bill. 461 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Coffee (Arndt.) Bill 462 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: The prime objective of development of coffee question is : plantations and regulation of sale and export of t he produce from such coffee C'That tbe Bill to amend the Terrorist plantations. The . Plan and non-Plan Affected Areas (Special Courts) expenditure of the Board is met from the Act" 1984, be taken into consi proceeds of the duties of customs and deration." excise levied under the Coffee Act, 1942_ The present rate of duty of customs and duty of excise on coffee have reached the The motion was adopted. upper ceiling of Rs. 11.80 per quintal each fixed under the Act. These rates MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The ba~e been in vogue since 16.12.1977. House will now talee up Clause by Clause consideration of the Bill. 2. The Plan and non-Plan expenditure of the Board, excluding loans and subsi The question is : dies, has increased Jrom Ri. 1.78 crores in 1978-79 to Rs. 3.90 "That Clause 2 to 4 stand part of the crores in I 984 -8 5 . The Budget Esti Bill." mates for 1985-86 are of the order of Rs. 6.45 crores. The expenditure is, however t shot up tremendously over tbe Th~ motion was adopted. years whereas the rate of duties of cus toms and excise a re at the same level as Clauses 2 to 4 were add!d to the Bill. they were fixed on 16.1 2.1977. Clause 2, the Enactiug Formula and Under non-Plan. there has been in l/ze Tilt/e were added to the Bill. crease in expenditure mainly due to in crease in DA, ADA, Interim Relief etc. SHRI S.B. CHAVAN: Sir, I beg to in the eSlablishment side and due to in move; crease in research activities and n.arketing actIVIties. Under Plan side also. a "That the Bill be passed." number of new schemes viz., ~1an p0wer Development, opening of coffee de monstration~ farms. letting up of chemi MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER The cal laboratories, storage and warehou'ilng question is : capacity etc. have been taken up and eight new schemes are proposed to b~ '·That the Bi 11 be passed." faken up during 1985-~6. The procl;!ed~ of the two duties would not be sufficient. T he motion was adopted. and, therefore the Central Government had to resort to grant. in·aid to meet the expenditure of the Board during the fi nancial year, ] 985-86. Finding that 13.43 hrs. the proceeds of the two duties levied COFFEE (AMENDMENT) BILL under the Act are not commensurate witb the increasing expenditure of the Board. it has been found inevitable to amend [English] Sections 1 1 and 1 2 of the Coffee Act to THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE provide for a higher ceiling of levy of M;lNISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI duty of Customs and duty of excise at a P.A. SANOMA): On behalf of Shri rate not eXleeding Rs. 50 per quintal for Vishwaoath Prafap Singh, I beg to move each. .,The actual operative rates of the that the Bill further to amend tbe Coffee two duties will, however, be fixed at such Act, 1942 be taken into consideration. leveJs as may be sufficient to gerer~te funds to meet substantial part of the " As the HOuse is aware the Coffee Budget expenditure of the Board in Board has been functioning with the future. 463 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Coffee (Amdt.) Bill 464 [Sbri P.A. Sangma] 1982 1,29.514 tonnes and In the interest of uniformity and ad 1983 1,04 624 tonnes. ministrative convenience, it is also propos ed to make the provision of Customs Act, 1962 applicable for purposes of refund . So, between 1981 and 1983, the pro duction has 'come down. That shows tbe of, and exemption from, the payment of way of functioning of the Board. This duty of Customs under the Coffee Act, is alSo not useful in promoting the con 1942 with regard to exports of coffee. sumption. It is everybody's traditional drink, There has been only an increase Opportunity is also being availed of to in population. But the departmental the to substitute for provision relating efficiency cannot be attributed to lhis laying of rules contained in sub-section fact. 3 of section 48, a new provision on the )ines recommended by the Committees on Subordinate Legislation. The Public Accounts Committee's t 27th Report expresses surprise at the fact that the private parlours are making With these few words. I take leave of money and the coffee houses are losing the House for consideration of tbe Bill. money. But the Chairman had argued lhat these were not losses; with the pro MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Motion paganda the consumption of coffee had moved: increased; in that aspect, the money was utilised, he said. ' The impact of tbe .. 'That the Bill further to amend the coffee houses and of the propaganda de Coffee Act, 1942 be taken into paTtment~ is nothing. They spend the cOD:iideratioD. " money for operational expenses. rents, fue) , gas, pay and allowances, etc. Mr. Thota. Now, the levy is Rs. 11.80 per quintal. But the Hon'ble Minister wants to raise 15.46 brs .. it by this amendmenl Act. The ultimate bearer of the increa~ed levy win be th e [SHIU N. VENKATA RATNAM n the common man, but not the dealer. So, Chair] whatever levy you want to charge, please divert it for the welfare of the labour, for research and development work and sub. SHRI GOPAL KRISHNA THOTA sidy for farmers, The Hon'ble Minister (Kakinada): Mr ~hairman,. S.ir •. to has given a reply in the Lok Sabha to an reguiarise the producdoo and dlstnbutlon unstarred question No. 5127-(a) The of sale uniformly throughout India the names of the coffee producing States in 1942 Coffee Act has brought the Coffee the country; (b) Tbe value of the coffee Board into existence, The Board has produced by these Srates during the last introduced the coffee houses in the couo three years; ( c) Whether any survey has try. These are also running in 10(s. It been conducted to locate more areas has also introduced propaganda depart which are suitable for coffee growing; ments. The Department's work is to (d) If so, the details tbereof; (e) The propagate the need for consumption of details or assistance given to the coffee coffee. The bon. Minister has given a growing States, particularly to Orissa to reply in Rajya Sabha to an unstarred increase the production of coffee during question No. 1394-whether it is a fact the last three years; and (f) Other special that the production per hectare of coffee steps being taken to increase the produc has come down since 1982- 83-tbat the tion of coffee in the country. The ans production figures of coffee for the last wer is that tbe coffee is mainly produced three years are as UDder: in Karnataka, Kerala" Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh. The value of coffee produced by the major producing States 465 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill SRAVANA 28. 1907 (SAKA) Coffee (Amdt.) Bill 466 during 1981-82 to 1983-84 is as under: (Ra. in laJehs) State 1981-82 1982-83 1983.84 Karnataka 15,454.83 14,256.45 12,752.17 Kerala 4,566.61 2,099.00 1.535.86 Tamil Nadu 2,331.16 2,022.78 2,493.85 Andhra Pradesh 70.37 73.32 85.19 An area of 1 8,553 hectares has been The country does not consume aU tho covered under the survey in the -north coffee it produces. The internal con eastern region. A survey in Andhra sumption is only one-third. Another Prad\!sh, Orissa and neighbouring States one-third is sold to the contract countries is likely to be cond ucted by the Board. at the fair price. The rest of the one-third It also shows some decrease in produc is sold at the public market among non tion. And the Coffee Houses and tbe contract countries and that too at a discount propaganda department -most of them price which ranges from 40 to 50 per cent. are in the north and the coffee growing Whatever price they got from outside tbe areas are in the south. The Coffee Board contract countries is again pooled and the is also encouraging to grow more coffee. grower is paid on that basis. But it is not sufficient. It is a foreign exchange earner. So we should develop more coffee products to earn more foreign Tbe majority of tbe planters in K.erala. exchange. The Coffee Board should Karnataka and Tamil Nadu arc medium provide loans for farmers for bore wells and marginal growers. The number of co so that the water problem can be sol ved. ffee plantations in tbe country is 108,000 The main problem is water for all out of which those farmers whose holdiQJI things. are below 4 hectares are 101.063 and from 4 to about 10 hectares is ·2290. These figures are supplied by tbe Coffee With these words, I thank you. Board and DO coffee-grower is allowed to sell his produce in the public market. DR. K.G. ADIYODI (Calicut): The The entire coffee produce should go to hon. Minister in his statement regarding the Coffee Board and if they do not do the Bill bas stated that because the public it, then they are liable for penalty and exchequer is in a crisis and because even for prosecution and imprisollment. the Coffee Board every year is So, they are very very vigilant arid this incurring -expenditure beyond the control year the coffee price is Rs. 6.54 whereas of the public exchequer, because they are for seedlings tbe Coffee Board .ells it at incurring expenditure without any oeilill8 Rs. 17.19. To-day if is selfins -at Ra. and because there are no funds to spare, 25,00. l·he National Seeds Corpor they are increasing tbe excise duty as also ation is supplying seeds to the cultivators. the export duty from Rs. 11.80 kg to There the increase is only 100/0. For Rs. 50 p~r kg. coffee alone tbe increase is manifold. Tbe hOD. Minister is comins forward with This is no explanation because the OD increase of Rs. SO-from Rs. 11.86 Coffee Board from 1942 onwards is Dot· to Rs. 50. Is it for the benefit of the functioning as tbe Tea Board or tbe consumer or for tbe benefit or the pro RUbber Board is functioning. Tbeir ducer'l In Wynaad, Coorg aad other researcb work and their service to the places, the coffee planters are by and coffee planters are Dot aliy way helpina large converting the· laud for arowm, in tbe production or in arranging its sale rubber and other croPS. We are ruiniDs outside India. coffee plantatioD. Tbo tint tbiOl 467 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill AUGUST 19,1985 Coffee (Aindt.) Bill 468 [Dr K.G. Adiyodi] his £amily. Not only that the present that we can do is that the system of coffee cultivation depends also Coffee Board should restrict their on the monsoons. When tbe coffee start expenditure. May I know whether the flowering with the 1 st rain if the second Chairman is here? I am told he is rain is not proper and timely then the always on tour. I do Dot know what is entire coffee cultivation will go phut for the purpose of the tour because in Indo the entire season nesia. Br azil and all other places they had a bumper crop. One-third of our coffee Sir, it is possible to have sprinkler irri production is sold to the contract coun. gation .in some of tbe areas but the tries where there is a world market price. Coffee Board is not thinking on tbose Another one-third is at the mercy of the lines. Whenever there is underground nOD-contract countries. If they are not water and some sort ~r finance at diffe coming forward then it has to be sold in rential rate of interest can be given then public market wherever there is some ~ort th.e coffee growers a re prepared to instal of demand. The Don-contract countries sprinklers. So, without depending on are dictating the price. We are seliing monsoons they can get a bumper cr op our coffee at 40-50 per cent discount but the Coffee Board is not paying atten price to the Don-contract countries. tion to this. This bas been happening for the Jast so many years. Mr. Chairman, supposing coffee is pooled it has to be taken three to four Sir, tbree years back Brazil and other hundred kilometers away to the coffee growing countries did not get much curjn~ centres from the plantations. So, corp. The crop there was very bad. So, lot of transport charges are incurred by we had some sort of increase in our the coffee growers. The curing centres price. Then the Government thought ~re not properly 10C'ated Unless the curing centres arc properly located the that it wilJ be better to get some more interests of the coffee growers will not be money by way of export duty OD coffee. Then the Bill was prepared and Coffee safeguarded. They have to incur addi Board also concurred but they not able tional expenditure in all the sectors. to give the minimum price which is de manded by the coffee growers. 16.00 brs. From 1942, from the British times, a law In the case of wheat. rice, etc. the was enacted for supporting the coffee Agriculture Department prefers to fix the growers. But the provisions of the law price for tbe growers but not for coffee. were quite against the envisaged pro Here tbe Coffee Board takes three to four gramme for the coffee growers. So, my years to' fix the minimum release price. humble submission is, that though it is Further. from the contract countries and brought forward in this Hou~e on a most tbe non-contract countries the saJe value untimely occasion, I am not opposing the is pooled together and the release takes Bill. But it takes naturally a lot of time minimum three years whereas in all other to get t he Bill passed in favour or coffce agricultural commodities which are expor. Board. It is for the Board to reduce or ted they are paid within one year. This increase the export duty. There is a lot is most unkindly. of difficulty in getting the Bill passed in Parliament. The fint thing is that I Sir, the production cost according to would request the Government kindly to the calculations of the Coffee Board from consider reducing the price. Last time, a 4 hectare plantation is somewhere about during the budget~ about Rs. 2000 was Rs. 7,500. The produce from 4 hectare reduced by way of concession on export plantation is about 700 kg. So, at this duty. Still. I would request that the rate of marketing the coffee grower is not entire export duty should be wiped out getting anything for the maintenance of and further research and fidd trials, with- 469 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Coffee (Amdt.) Bill 470 out any delay, should be taken up, if the Commerce Ministry because you have you want to help the coffee growers. the statutory price on coffee which is actually a dual pricing system. According Sir, unless our agriculture sector gets to that, the coffee is procured from the the maximum benefit from the Planning growers and the minimum release price is Commission and the public exchequer, given to them. This minimum release they are not going to have industrial. price should be estimated on tbe basis of isation of the country because agri cost of production. While t he cost of cultural produce in the main base for production is increasing every year, it is the industrialisation of the country. Un unfortunate that the minimum release less tbey are given impetus and support price is not being revised every year. It for use of mechanised methods· in agri takes at. least three to four years to cultural sector, we will not be able to revise that. At present, the minimulD pull on with tbis population. or course, release price is Rs. 6.50, which is in no the Green Revolution has brought in a way comparable to the cost of pro Jot of improvement in our country and it duction of this commodity. This was is known all over the world. But except fixed years back. I do not understand rice and wheat, other commodities like why the Government is not increasing tho pulses, etc. are lagging behind. So also minimum release price. The grower bas cash crops like pepper, spices, ginger, no option otber than giving tbe produce turmeric, etc. are lagging behind in so far to the Coffee Board at the minimum re as production is concerned. Unless lease price What I want you to do is tbat there is proper study and a proper the Government should immediately in directi on to the agriculturists and proper crease tb is price. I understand tbat tbe applicability of differential rate of inter Coffee Board had also recommended the est, they will not be able to march for increase and tbat recommendation has ward. I support the Bill. been peoding with the Commerce Ministry for the last one year. Wby is tbe Ministry not taking an attitude that is PROF. p.J. KURIEN (Idukki): Sir, favourable to the coffee growen. actually this Bill is brought forward before this House on an untimely occa sion. I do not know what is the need for There is another point. The coffee this Bill at present, because this is the production is increasing and we will not time when coffee growers are really be able to sell our coffee in the internal feeling difficulty in disposing of market, because the internal consumption their produce when tbe entire is much less tban our production. We industry is in distress. At tbis will, therefore, have to export coffee to time, tbe Government is proposing to the foreign countries, but in this regard increase the duty on coffee. I can what are we actually doing? Actuallyt understand if it is done at a time when we export coffee, the arowera are when there is a boost in the market, \ being paid less price, ~specially when we when tbere is an increase in price and all export this commodity to some of the tbat, but that is not the case at prescnt. social ist countries. I would liko to Therefore, I would say it is very clear know from the Government, whether we that it is Dot the proper time for bringing are taking some steps to find out DOW' forward this Bill for enactment. Sir, markets for the coffee sO that tho .owor unlike cardamom, rubber and other plant is ensured minimum price tbat is &dyant. ations, coffce is arown prcdominently by aaeous to him. tbe small Irowers. 90% to 95% of tbe coffee produced in tbe country is by small p'owen holdiDi one aero, 000 and balf I think, it is ooly an enabling legis acres or two acres and therefore coffee lation. I do not know whether you are cannot be treated at par witb othor loinl to impose the excise duty riaht plantatioDS. Corfee is the only commo DOW, or may be you \Yill be doina it aftor dity in the country whose price is directly some timo. However, tbis incroase in controlled by tho Financo Ministry aod excise dyey is, in no way, helpiDl CO iIl- 471 Coffee (Arndt.)' Bill AUGUST 19, 1984 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill ,472 [Prof. P.J. Kurien] SHRI V.S. KRISHNA IYER (Banga crease the production or helping the lore South): Mr. Chairman, Sir. I arower, Commerce Ministry or our coun oppose this legislation. Sir, I was quite t.y in the sense that this will be detri.. surprised to bear the learned speakers mental to production. from KeraJa. They spoke with objectivity. But their last sentence about supporting the Bill is completely contradictory to aU Whenever there is good production in that they said. They have spoken very the country, we shouJd find out new mar well in the interest of coffee industry. kets for the export of this commodity and ensure reasonable price to the grower SO I also come from a State which grows as to enable him to produce more and coffee, that is, Karnataka. The hone to enable us to get more foreign exchange. Minister, while introducing the Bill said that the object of this legislation is to strengthen the finances of the Coffee I do 'not understand, why this excise Board. On the other hand. it is going to duty is imposed on this commo be counter· productive. It will definitely dity alone. It is not there on kill the coffee industry. I do not want to rubber or cardamom. It is a commodity repeat what the hon. members have which earns foreign exchange, but on this already said. They have said it with commodity this duty is imposed and the facts and figures. I would only like to growers are punished indirectly. say that this levy, though an enabling measure, will certainly kill the cofr~e I have already written with regard to industry. I have a feeling- it is for the the collection of produce from the hon. Minister to allay that feeling-that growers and the functioning of the Coffee Governn;ent of India is givmg a step Board. The Coffee Board is not having motherly treatment to coffee, because in enough depots. When the production is the case of tea. the hon, Minister of mere. the Coffee Board does not have Finance was very kind enough to com sufficient arrangements for collecting the pletely exempt the export duty in the produce and for the storage of the com Bud~et. But for the past so many years. modity. I am told that in some places, we particularly, the Southern States, they keep the coffee in open space exposed which are growing coffee, have been to tbe vagaries of rain etc. and thus it urging the Government of Indb to abolish aets damaged. this excise duty. Even the hon. members who spoke now have also advocated the same. But it is not abolished. I would like the Minister to streamline tbe functioning of the Coffee Board and Coffee is earning a lot of foreign ensure tbat the coUection is done pro exchange. But I do not know why perJy, and the minimum release price is coffee is being given this sort of treat given to . the growers. - Arrangements ment. What will be the effect of these should be made to ensure collection of two levies on the coffee mnr ket? We whatever coffee is produced. I want that have to see it. I have got a few figures. the proposal which is pending before you Last year, the production of coffee was for revision of the minimum release price one lakh seventy thou~and tonnes. After should be sanctioned without any delay. the International Coffee Organisation In addition, every year the minimum carne into force from 1 st of Octooer release price should be increased and it 1983, the rates are being fixed by the should be calculated on the basis of cost Internalional Coffee Organisation. They of production of coffee. With these words, also assess the world requirements and I support the Bill. But I have a request. fix up the quota for each cou.ntry. So Please do not implement these provisions far as India is concerned, during the last now. This is an enabling leg;slation. If year, out of one lakh and seventy ibis is implemented, it will act as a thou.;and tnnnes which we grew in India, damper on the production of coffee and under the agreement of the International on our foreign exchange earnings. Coffee Organisati on, only 43,000 tonnes 473 Coffee (Arndt.) Bill SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Coffee (Am,1t.) Bill 474 of Indian Coffee W1S sold to Western thousands of acres. Si r, the fact is not countries at international prices. or like tbis. The fact is, as I know, oul of course, the international price is very about 1 lak~ registered dealers, more attractive. But what abl)ut the rest of than 85 per cent of them own less th:ln tbe coffee grown in India? About 6) ,()()u 10 acres of plantation. So we have to tonnes of coffee is consumed by the think of these small growers. What is domestic market. Another 65,000 tonnes their fate '1 They are not getting the which cart be exported to non-member remuDt?rative prices because they cannot countries like U 5SR, Sau11 and other sell cofre;! to the free market. Coffee is South East cJuntries is being sold at a the only commodity In our country which discount of 50 to 55 per cent. So, we in a way nationalised. Coffee Board is are losing on that CouDt. When the the oldest organisation which was matter stands like this, what is the POlOt established in 1940s. However, its sale, of increasing tbe CustOilH duty and the marketing and everything is controlled. excise duty, which will further enhance So we have to think of tbe small grow-!rs the rates? Parti.;ularly in the European and their interest is important because market, it will have an adv-!rse effect. agricultural side of the coffee is more Of course, if the I. C. O. fixes a gre:lter important than marketing. N Jbody quote for Indi:t, it will be good. But thinks of a grower. With all these facts, they' have done this at no time. It was I am sure, the hon. Minister will never more than 35 per cent, because reconsider and. see that th s piece of there is a cut-throat corniJetition from legislatioo .is withdrawn. Otherwise it is South American co~ntrjes. whicn produce going to kill the coffee industry. Of more coffee. That is one of tne reasons course, the Coffee Board is dOing as to why we lose in the international excellent Yrork I know about its worKing market. Government of India have got since if it is located in my Slate. so many organisations to study all these things and I do not know whether tney have considered this fact. It will SHRI MOOL CHAND DAGA (Pali) : certainly kill our coffee market in the You all people are saying that the Coffee international field and it will certainly Board Members are taking rnax!rnum affect the Coffee Industry. At the same advantage out of this fund. You an time, this Excise Duty will certainly people from South In [English] "India and other producing countries How many members are there in the will have to see the writing on Board '1 Thirty-two. There are 10 the wall and adjust their own or 12 committees also, of that Board. export policies to suit the cut throat cOmpetition abroad. In [Translation] this context, irrational export duties would only add to the This Board is even bigger than the woes of Indian exporters. Instead AsSelnbly and these committee go on of adopting a penny-wise policy, tours to various places. How has this the Government should abolish non-plan expenditure gone up so the duty altog.ther before it is much? Please amend thjs Coffee Act, too late." 1942 once for all and see that the number of ib members does not go up at sucb a speed. [Translation] Government has made a straight "1£nglishl suggestion and has drawn up the plan. Whom do these members represent , But that plan is not being implemented Governments of the principal coffee. properly. &t()wing State or Coffee-growers interests, cOffee trade interests and interests of [English] consumers. Who is looking after the The Economic Times says : interests of tbe consumers ? .' Planners bad envisaged an export of [Translation] 89,000 tonnes of coffee in We, the people of Rajasthan would 1985-86 (the first year of tbe stop taking coffee if the excise-duty and Seventh Plan) on tbe basis of tbe custom duty thereon were increased. a total output of no more than We would Dot be able to bear this 146,000 tonnes. They also expenditure. Therefore, you kindly expected exports to increase amend this Act of 1942 thoroughly. progressively to touch 1,09,000 477 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Coffee (4mdt.) Bill 478 tonnes by 19~9-90. All these supposed to promote coffee itself, and in projections will prove wrong India only some coffee houses are run unless the world market conditions by Coffee B:>ard and that too in certain improve dramatically." government offices only. I request him to take steps to start coffee houses run [Translation] by the Coffee Board itself at least in If you function in this manner, you major tourist centres. That will do wou1d not be able to deliver the goods. much to popularise coffee. Unless you improve this situation, you would not reap any benefit. Growers Then the Coffee Board officials ale shouJd be provided with more benefits making foreign tours; they go on so that they may increase their income. foreign tours much more than our Please also tell us the extent to which Foreign Minister does. I do not know the non-plan expenditure has gone up for what purpose they are making these and is likely to go up in the next two foreign tours and what they have achieved years. by going abroad, wasting our money ? [English] A Iso t he Coffee Board has certain depots from where they give coffee powder SHRI SURESH KURUP (Kottayam) : in retail at Rs. 18 to Rs. 20 per kg. Mr. Chairman, the purpose of this Bill whereas in the outside market it is is to increase the customs du ty and the sold at Rs. 25 to Rs. 28 per kg. excise duty on coffee from the existing rate of Rs. 1 1.50 per Quintal to Rs. Tn this connection, I would request 1 Ultimately, this will increase the 5/-. 1he hon Minister to see that the price of coffee and the people will Coffee Board should start more retail have to bear it I strongly oppose this depots aJl over the country not only in te.ndency of the government to increase urban areas but in the rural areas also. this excise duty after the budget was presented before this House and passed. .And lastly, I would like to mention The other day, the govC'!rnment incre. the plight of the workers tn these coffee ased the levy on paper, and this is like plantations; they are the most neglected cheating the people. So, I strongly Jot among the labourers in oppose this Bill which will lead to an our country. The Coffee Board h~s increase in the prices of coffee. The no plan to help them. the Government government says that this levy is imposed is not bothered about them, because when to propagate coffee itself, that is going once one is a coffee plantation labourer, to be used- by the Coffee Board for in a Government estate, for generati0ns tbe welfare of the coffee growers. But to come one will be tied Up' in th !se everyone knows that the production of coffee estates. That is what is happening coffee has fallen from 1.80 lakh tonnes in our country. in 1982.83 to 1.10 Jakh tonnes in 1984-8S. Now the 7th Plan target is So, the Government should do 1.80 lakh tonnes. Nobody knows something, they should evolve some whether this wjll be achieved or not. concrete proposals for the welfare of The government is doing nothing for the workers in the plantations and in the promotion of coffee cultivation in the -estates in our country. These are India. Are they doing anything to help som~ points I would like to make in the small growers? What the Coffee this context. Board is doing fol' small growers ? Already, the Coffee Board is closing, Once again, I oppose this Bill because one by one, depots and now the small . this is going to increase the price ()f growers are at the mercy of the big coffee in the country and ultimately the . growers. What work is done by the peopJe in this country are going to Coffee Board ? The Coffee Board is suffer. 479 Co//ee'(A-mdt.) Bill' AUGUST 19, 1985 Co/fee (Amdt.) Bill 480 SHRI SOMNATH RATH (",ska) : Of course, the hone Minister in para Mr. Chairman, it is alleged that the 2 of the Statement of Objects and Coffee Board is suffering from top-heavy Reasons bas stated: administration, but at the same time it is supposed to perform very essential "The Customs Act, 1962 and the work. In the statement of Objects and "- rules and regulations made Reasons it has been stated that the thereunder contain elaborate Board has been continuing the provisions regarding the refund existing development activities and of, and exemption from the research and extension programmes. pre-payment of, the duty of customs with regard to export So, thOs is e~sentia~ In our country of goods in general. In the there are areas where emphasis has not interest of uniformity and admini been laid on growing coffee. For strative convenience, it is proposed example. 1 invite the attention of the to make these provisions applic hOD. Mini~ter through you to the able also for purposes of refund fact that there is much scepe to grow of" and exemption from, . .the cuffee in Orissa. pre-payment of the duty of customs under the Coffee Act, ] 982, wit h regard to export of In fact, the previou~ Go\ernor,- Shri coffee by substituting for sub P('onacha, experimented in the Raj section (3) of section 1 3 of the Bbavan compJex and two varjeties of Act a new sub-section." coffee have been found to be very suitable to be gf(\wn there. This is a novel idea. Suitable c1imate and soil are the This is a novel idea. What I want requirements for growing coffee. It to impress upon the bon. Minister is is established that tne climate and soil that unneceSsary expenditure of coffee of Orissa. especially the districts of Board should be curtailed and the Koraput, Ganjam, PhuJbani, Keonjhar cultivation of coffee should be done in and other hijl districts are suitable for a scientific manner in extensive way so growing coffee. There is a large scope tbat the producers and the labourers to grow coffee and also to provide employed to grow coffee, are benefited sufficient \\ ork to the people. Some and efforts are made to expand the subsidy should be given to those people export market. in hill areas who are Jiving below the poverty Jir.e. The Coffee Board should ~ to their rescue to see that their [Translation] iacetne increases by _more production of SHRI C. JANGA REDDY (Hanam coffee. So. the Board should give more konda): Mr. Chairman, Our friend, elll1Jhasis for coffee production in the from Kerala have just DOW told us that country in djff~rent States. They should the coffee-growers would not in any way nOt -OOflfine their operation only to a few be benefited by the imposition of excise States where the coffee grows. They should duty etc. The farmers having not mOre enlarge their area of activity to other than one acre or two acres of land grow States and they shouJd also see that the coffee. The fa~mer who owns five acres export market is not damaged by raising of land wouJd grow either paddy or the price of coffee. If the export martet sugarcane. But the farlJlers having one is reduced then the growers win Dot acre or two acres of land grow cash get the b~nefit which tbey are entitled crop like coffee. You are adding to tbe to get. So, the growers and the producers burden of sucb farmers under this Act. should be given some incentive, if One tbird of our total coffee production necessary some subsidy for their benefit, is consumed in the country. another" onc; and also the labourers employed there, tbird is sold in the foreign market at the to &rOW coffee. rates obtajoins there and tbe remainina 481 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill SRAVANA 28. 1907 (SAKA) 'Coffee (Amdt.) Bill 482 one-third bas to be sold in the socialist Board. It is not proper to increase the countries like Russia at the terms dictated excise duty or the customs duty or tbe by them, due to which the Coffee Board import-export duty just because the Coffee has to incur', loss. To meet this loss, Board is running at a loss. Along with export duty and excise duty are being tbe Members of the Opposition, the raised from'Rs. 11 to Rs. 50. This will Members of Congress Party have also put additional burden on the coffee. opposed this Bill. When all are oppos growers. Thus this will be beneficial ing this Bill, there is no use in passing neither to the coffee-grower nor to the it. Government has not appended any consumer. Our Congress Party friends financial memorandum to the Bill to tell told us that the coffee is mostly used by us tbe extent of loss being suffered by tbe people in the South and it is they who Coffee Board and the total amount grow it. The Government has reduced of duty proposed to be realised. Govern or withdrawn import or export duty on ment has sta ted cursorily that the Coffee tea but has imposed it on coffee. So, the Board is running at a loss and to make people in the South feel that the Govern up this loss, the customs and excise duties ment of India is according a step-mother- are proposed to be levied. As such, this 1y treatment to them. Such feelings have Bill is not in keeping with the spirit of been expressed by the members of the the Constitution and, therefore, it would Congress Party and I fuBy endorse their be better if Gove,rnment withdraws it, views. otherwise we shall have to oppose it. As this Bill is beneficial neither to the [English] farmer nor to the consumer, it should be withdrawn immediately. SHRI K. MOHANDAS (Mukunda-, puram): Sir, I take tbis opportunity to place certain problems of tbe coffee As Shri Daga said, tbe people of growers in the country before tbe House. Coffee Board sit in tbe air-conditioned The most serious problem being faced by roolDS. The coffee is propagated among the coffee growers is the decline in tbe people living in areas around Delhi or price due to surplus production. Our among the white-collared people. Its production of coffee tbis year is going to propaganda should be done more at be around 1,65,000 tonnes. The export places where coffee is used more. It quota is 43,400 tonnes and tbe internal would be better if Coffee Board is pro consumption is only 60,000 tonnes. vided with rent-free accommodation in Thus, we will be left with a surplus of the Secretariat. The Coffee Board is 62,400 tonnes of coffee this year. The publicised more in the Secretariats of problem is what to do with this coffee. Government of India or the State Govern I need hardly stress that this is going to ments. We should propagate coffee affect the growers very bad1 y. The Bill more so as to increase the number of under discussion seeks to raise the excise coffee-growers. At present, we have to duty on coffee from Rs. 11.80 to Rs. SO depend on socialist countries for selling per quintal. This increase is a biS blow our coffee production. The Central to the coffee growers On the one hand there Government should help small coffee is a glut in coffee production in the inter~ growers owning two or tbree acres of national market which bas brought dowD land because the cost of production of tbe prices, and OD tbe otber band tile coffee per acre is at least Rs. 10,000. growers are being subjected to beavy in crease in excise duty. Therefore, I would The OOv.rment has not appended any request the Government to reconsider financial memorandum to the Bill to let this step. us know the additional revenue likely to accrue to tbe Government as a result or There are about one lakh coffee bold increasina tbe custom and excise duty ings in tbe country. Out of these, 97.87 from Ra. 11 to Rs. SO}-. Besides. per cent boldings are small. Most or Government has not specified the reasons these holdings are less than 10 acres. for tho loss heiDI incurred by tbe Coffce These small growers are facina a lot or 483 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill AUGUST 19, 1984 Coffee (Amelt.) Bill 484 [Shri K. Mohandas] customs duty and the excise duty from problems at present. The cost of pro Rs. 11.80 per quintal to Rs. 50/- per duction of coffee is increasing tremen quintal respectively. It would not have dously. And the return on the invest mattered much if on1y the customs duty ment is declining The minimum release is raised. But the increase I in excise price fixed by the Government is Rs 6.54 duty by Rs 50/- pt:r quintal will result and it was fixed in 1 981 . The Coffee in the increase in price of coffee In Board has suggested Rs. 7.55 as the Southern States coffee is one of the food minimum release price. Since the cost items. Even the poorest of the poor is of production has gone up very much habituated to take a cup of coffee at after t 981, the Government should accept 1east once in a day. Wi th the increase the'suggestion made by the Coffee Board in excise duty, naturalJy the coffee price in this regard. will go up, affecring the poor people in southern States. Th~ hOD. Minister should find out ways and means to ensure that So far as export of Coffee is concerned the coffee price is not increased. I do not think it is going to increase ver; much in the coming years. Therefore, we have to turn to the internal market I take this opportunity to suggest that and exploit its potential fully. At pre the increase in excise dUly may be res sent the rate of increase the domestic tricted to Rs. 30 per quintal, instead of consumption of coffee is only 3.5 per Rs. 50/- per quinta1 as ha~ been done cent. This has to rise through commer through thi~ Bil1. In Karnataka, Kerala cial activities. Karnataka, Kerala and and Tamifnadu 2,35,000 hectares of land Tamil Nadu are the major coffee producing are under coffee cultivation. 98% of this States and the crisis in the coffee industry cultivated area, i.e, about 2.30,300 hec will pose a serious threat to the economy tares are in the hands of small cultivators of these States. Therefore. the Govern having 1 () hect~Hes and 1ess indivi ment should adopt a more realistic ap dually. Y ('11 can well calculate that proach towards this problem. the small holdings out number the big estates in these States. These small coffee cultivators wilJ not be The coffee growers are in heavy debt. able to absorb the increase in excise duty. As you know 63 per cent of the coffee They will have to pass on this increase to growers are those who own only two the coffee consumers, jf they are to sur hectares of land. The Reserve Bank is vive particularly with the steep increases charging an interest of 18 per cent over in the costs of inputs of coffee cultivation. the overdraft aHowed to the coffee Board Coffee cultivation is also subjt.'cted to for disbursing loans to the coffee growers. vagaries of weather. The coffee culti In this situ~tion you can very wel1 imagine vators are to face the recurring droughts the conditions of the coffee growers. in the alternate years. If they produce Therefore, taking into account aJl these in abundance in one year, next year the problems, I would request the Govern production suffers due to drought. They ment to reconsider the present increase have to face these production problems. in excise duty. Therefore, 1 suggest tbat the increase in excise ciuty should be reduce to.Rs 30·' [Transla lion] per quintal and not Rs. 50/- per quintat'. *SHRI R. JEEVARATHINAM (Arak konam,; Hon. Mr. Chairman I thank India is a member of international you for giving me this opportunity to coffee organisation. In 1983 we have make a few suggestions on The Coff:e signed the T1ew international coffee agree (Amendment) Bi11, 1985. WhiJe J ex ment. I am afraid that the increase J 0 tcnd my suppor,t to this Bill, I Wt)uId customs duty of coffee will have adverse like to point out that the impact of tl1 is effect in our export performance. The legislation win be felt by the coffee price of coffee in t he international market drinkers. This Bill seeks to increase the may also go UP. We may not be able ·The speech was orieinalJy delivered in Tamil. 485 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill SRAVANA 28, i 907 (SAKA) Coflee (Amdt.) Bill 486 to achieve tbe export quota allotted to us. sophisticated equipment for producin. The hone Minister should ensure that instant coffee. Then alone we will be our export quota is fulfilled at all costs. able to increase the export of instant The Central Government is giving 8% coffee substantially. Presently, two cash compensation on the total value of multinationals-Brooke Bond and Pure export of coffee, besides 6 % import re Foods-are producing BRU Coffee and plenishment benefit. This is mainly for NESCAFE. In order to popularise these the export of instant coffee. Hence, I two instant coffee items, tbese two multi suggest that the Government should nationals are spending substantial money ensure the fulfilment ot export auota of in advertisement campaigns. They should coffee under the international agreement concentrate in tbe export of instant coffee and the present increase in customs duty and if neceisary the Government should should not lead to faU in export. come forward with an ordinance directIng that these two multinationals should only export BRU and NESCAFE and not In the Seventh Five Year Plan, the market them within the country. Coffee Board has formulated many schemes for augmenting the coffee culti Sir, the Coffee Board is Dot concen vated area by 50,000 hectares. Besides trating in welfare schemes of plantation increase in coffee production, this will workers. The Coffee Board should im lead to increase in our exports and also mediately constitute a Plantation Workers in creating more job opportunities. With Welfare Fund. The Coffee Board should more production the price of coffee will also seek loans from LIe and Housing also come down. The Coffee Board is Development Financial Corporation for formulating the training scheme for the purpose of implementing housing spreeding coffee culture, the scheme of schemes for plantation workers The soil testing for the benefit of coffee gro Coffee Board should also allocated ·money wers and the supply of pestisides and for the educational needs of plantation insecticides for them, the scheme of workers. The Plantation Labour Act supply of high-yielding varieties of coffee was broU&ht into effect by tbe Britisb seeds, the scheme of establishing coffee rulers in 193 8. Till date no amendment demonstration forms, the scheme of has been made in this Act. The Gove strengthening the research wing ot Coffee rnment should bring forward necessary board, the scheme of developmental sub amendments to the Plantation Labour sidies and the scheme of giving timely Act for empowering the Coffee Board to financial assistance for the coffee growers. implement welfare scheme for plantatiOD Thoee schemes should not only be formu workers. Toe Plantation Workers' C0- lated but also implemented vigorously by operative Societies should be organised the Coffee Board. Tbe Government and such societies should be given coffee should permit the Coffee Board the re quota, besides supplYIng tbe machinery cruit suitably qualified persons immediate for grinding coffee seeds. This will ly and to give them adequate training for greatly uplift the plantation workors, who implementing these schemes. are in perennial distress. In the total world production of coffee India's share is just 1.7%, but in the Sir, we have milk booths in almost all total world export of coffee India's share the comers of metropolitan cities. Wo is 1.25%. We should be happy about have aJso NESCAFE kiosks in metropoli. this. In 1983-84, a sum of Rs. 175 tan cities. I suggesting that Coffco crores in foreign exchange was earned by Booths should be opened at many places coffee export and in the first 8 months in metropolitan cities by the Coffee Board of 1984-85, ~e earned Rs. 138 crores If the Coffee Board supplies quality in foreign exchange through coffee ex coffee, it will reduce the intake of liquor. port. This is a creditable achievement of Such Coffee Booths should be kept open coffee board. I suggest tbat at least from morning till late nieht. It will also 1 0% of tbe foreign exchanae should be augment the earnings of Coffee Board, exclusively earmarked for importing bcsidos incr.asiDI employment opportu- 487 Coffee (Amdt.) Bill AUGUST t 9, 1985 Coffee (Amdl.) Bill 488 [shri R. Jeevarathinam] crores. Therefore, it bas .become neces nities. Black Coffee has become the sary for us that we look for some funds popular drink in foreign countries like so tbat we can carry OD the normal acti France. West Germany Italy and so on vity of promoting coffee production. and t~is had a significant impact on t~ intake of Jiquor. The Coffee Board Cofree is a very imnor tant crop. It 8~o\lld also emulate this example for the contributes substantially to the economy I~d of our people. On behalf of the of our country, particularly in the south small coffee cultivators, I will express my ern part of our country. It gives eut gratefu1ness to the Government for ployment to about 3.5 Jakh people and having reduced the export duty on coffee its contribution to the foreign exchange from Rs. 415 to Rs. 300-a benefit of earning is quite substantial-to the tune Ra. 11 S-in Notification No, 247/85 on of Rs. 400 crores. I am not going into 2nd August. This notification was laid details, and one important aspect of coffee on . the Table of the House by the hone industry is that un like tea industry, 97 Minister of State "fer Finance at about per cent of the coffee growers are sma1l 5 P.M. on 2nd August. This wiJI in growers. Therefore, it becomes all the crease the exports. Before I conclude, I more important that Government takes would suggest that the Members of Par proper care of them. An allegation has iament' particularly those who are on been made that the Government has been tbe Coffee Board should be sent to the giving to much of importance to the tea meetings of International Coffee Organi industry and not to coffee industry. Well. sation being hold every year in London. I think we differ in this and 1 would cer With those words I conc1ude my speech. tain]y not agree that there has been some SOTt of step-motherly treatment to this industry, as somebody called it. On the [Eng/ish] other hand I wouJrl submit that as far as - THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE coffee growers are concerned. they have MINISTRY OF COMMERCE (SHRI been more fortunate in the sense that P.A. SANGMA): Mr. Chairmanlt Sir, there has been a stable policy as fes as I tbank the Hon. Members who have coffee is concerned. Whether it is in the participated in the Debate and have given field of prOduction, whether it is in the very valuable suggestions. field of auctioning in the domestic market, whether it is in the field of auctioning Sir, tbe purpose of this Bill has been for the export market, there has been explained by me at the time of initiating some stability which stability has not been the Bill for discussion in this House. formed in the case of tea industry. The So, I would like to go into that once tea industry"s fate has been fluctuating. again. This problem has not been faced by the coffee growers, only becallse the Govern ment has all along been following a very As the organisa tion grows, as the acti stable poli:y as far as coffee is concerned. vity of an orga~isatioll increases, naturally the expenditure also increases and there forelt it becomes necessary that in order Somebody has poin ted out that this to keep up the activity of the organisa Bill has come at a time when it should tion, the promotional activity of the or not have come. For a long time pro ganisation. they should also have some bably the Member has this idea in mind sources of revenue. In 198 -l-8 5 the that the price of coffee has fallen down total availability of revenue by way of in the international market. I agree that cess collection was only Rs J 43.29 the price of coffee has fallen down in be Jakhs. The opening balance as on international market, and it is because of 1.4.85 stood at Rs.-67.22 lakhs. And this reason that recently, as soon as the our budget estimates for this year. for price of coffee fell down in the internatio plan and Don-pJan expenditure excluding nal market, the export duty has been loans and subsidies which I have mention reduced and the hone Members are aware ed earlier, is to the tune of Rs. 6.45 of that. 489 Coffee (Amdt.) Bin SRAVANA 28, t 907 (SAKA) Coffee (Amdt.) Bill 490 I am told we have to finish this at MR. CHAIR MAN : The question S 0' Cock. Somebody made a point is : about the minimu~ release price. Though. the minimum release prices are determin "That the Bill further to amend tbe ed every three years, I think it should Coffee Act, 1942. be taken into have been done every year. But I am consideration. " told tbat the price determination is so cumbersome ~hat there is some difficulty The motion was adopted. in that. But I am trying to impress upon the Members that as far as possible we should have price determination every MR. CHAIRMAN: Now, tbe House three years. I hope I will succeed in this. win take up cJause-by-clause consideratioD But One point which should be remember of the Bin~ ed is that thougb tbe minimum release price has been fixed at the rate of Rs. 654 The question is : per bag, the ruling price is to the tune of Rs. 911 per bag. Therefore, the ruling "That clauses 2 to 5 stand part of the price is much higher than the minimum Bill." release price. Therefore, it would not be correct to say that tbe growers are not getting remunerative prices. On the The motion was adopted. other hand, as I have mentioned, the coffee growers have been getting remune Clause 2 to 5 were added to the Bill. rative prices and their prices have al ways been stable. MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : 17.00 hrs. "That clause 1 ~ Enacting Formula and Ono more point I want to make on tbe Title stand part of the Bill." the export duty. Export duties are not charged when the international prices of the cheapest variety of coffee faU below The motion was adopted. the base remunerative price. It is only when it is above the base remunera tive level, the export duty is levied. Clause 1, Enacting Formula and the Tille were added to the Bill. Thereforet I think, as far as the Govern.. ment is concerne~, we will make all efforts to see that there is stable policy MR. CHAIRMAN : The Minister 80 far as coffee is concerned. may now move that the Bill be passed. Only one more point I want to make SHRI P.A. SANGMA: I beg to to which Mr. Ratb has referred. It is move: legarding the growing of cofree in non traditional areas~ Coffee is not grown in all parts of the country. It is onl) "That the Bill be passed." grown, so far, in some of the States. w~ are contemplating a comprehensive plan MR. CHAIRMAN : The questioa for tbe cultivation of coffee in the nOD is : traditional areas, particularly in Andhra Pradesh, Orissa and Nagaland. "That the Bill be passed." I once again thank al1 the hon. Mem The motion was adopted. bers who have participated in the de. bate. ' 491 Dis. re : Racial Riots in S()flth AUGUST 19, 1985 St. re : Apartheid in 492 Africa Affectiug the People o/Jndian Origin South Africa 17.04 brs. SHRI G.G. SWELL: Let the hOD. DISCUSSION RE: RACIAL RIOTS IN Minister make the statement. There is SOUTH AFRICA AFFECTIN3 THE no harm. PEOPLE OF INDIAN ORIGIN MR. CHAIRMAN: You can make the statement after taking the permission [English) of the House. MR. CHAIRMAN ~ Now~ we go to item No. 1 9. Discussion under Rule 1 93. SHRI G.G. SWELL: It is quite re gul"f for the hOD. Minister to make the SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor s' atelnent. mugao): Mr. Chairman, how long is this discussion going to take? How much time is allotted? I am saying SHRI KHURSHID ALAM KHAN: this because tbis is a very important issue I beg to nlake tbe staten-;ent in the and we are committed to this just cause. House. This should not be take as a mere for mality. We should have a discussion MR CHAIRMAN: I put it to the .,",owing that Parliament is rea Hy concern House to give permission to the hon. ed about this. It i5 not just a matter of Minister to make the statement. formality SEVERAL HON. MEMBERS: Yes. MR. CHAIR MAN: Time allotted is The hoo. Minister can make the stat~ 2 h()ur~. nlent. THE MINISTER OF STAlE IN THE MR. CHAIRMAN: The hone Minis MINlSTK Y OF EXTtRNAL AFFAIRS ter may now make the statement. Let ,SHR[ KHURSlilD ALAM KHAN) : us iO by, the procedure. Sir the de&picable syMt m of Clpartbeid mU!!t be the stal ting point of any discus sion of South AfClcan situation .. t 7 .06 brs MR. CHAIRMAN: Hon. Mmister, tbe di$Cuss,on is In the name of Sbri STATEMENT RE : APARTHEID IN Pratap Bnanu Sharma, So, he has to SOUTH AFRICA initiate tbe discus:>ion THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE SHRl G.G. SWELL (Sbil1ong) : MINISTRY OF EX1ERNAL AFFAIRS Tber is DO harm in bearing the statement (SHRI KHURSHID ALAM KHAN): from the Government. Afler tbat~ we The despicable system of Apartheid must can discuss. be the starting point of any discussion of tbe South African situation. Apartheid was 'devised by tbe While minority to MR. CHAIRMAN: Fin,t of all, the perpetuate its supermacy over other hone Member will move. communities, who from 8 S Dot even be carried to hoc;pital in the International opposition to Apartheid same ambulance. Political parties serving initiated by Gandhiji has also been the interests ()f the oppressed majority, in gathering strength over the years. It' particular, the African National Congress was India wh ich first brought the question and also the Pan Africanist Congress, are of racial discrimination in South Africa banned and have to operate from before the United Nations in 1946. eJtile. Since then, a powerful international consensus has developed against the Among the many reprehensible feature racist principles of the Apartheid system. of Apartheid is the creation of the so called "homelands" or "Bantustans" for It unfortunately a fact that there the Africans. Though they comprise is is yet no unanimity about the need for 73% of the total population. the imposing economic sanctions against Bantustans have beeD allocated only some S,Juth Africa. Certain important Western t 3. 7% of the total area of the country. powers with considerable investments These are among the poorest areas which in South Africa are not to apply contain no major known deposits of minerals, no major industries or sea ports. econom ic sanctions against South Africa. Millions of Blacks and coloureds are The latest events in South Africa have also permitted to live and work in "White" demonstrated that the so-called policy of constructive engagement does not areas but only so long as this source of cheap labour is required by the ruling provide a viable alternative to effective minority. Africans might be thrown action by the international community out at any time jf they are considered under Chapter 7 of the U. N. Charter. surplus to the requirements of White employers or have become! old or iick. In an attempt to confuse domestic and These Black residents hav! no pol itical interna'ional opinion, the racist regime rights and must carry Pas~es which have in South Africa has announced a series to be produced on demand Every day of cosmetic "reforms" which in no way thousands of persons are arrested for reduce the rigours of Apartheid or contravention of the Pass Laws. confer reat rights to the majority, Last .)ear the racists introduced certain 80- Opposition to Apartheid in the Inter calJed "constitutional reforms" and national community as well as within created a tricameral legislature to give South Africa is well known. There is, a semblance of representation to the however, a new surge within South Coloured and Indian communities. The Africa supported by workers in mining new Parliament has 178 Whites, 85 and other industries, Peop]e are coming Coloured and 45 Indians, each group out openly against the regime and are supposedly empowered to discuss and defying its laws designed to perpetuate legislate on matters pertaining to its its tyranny. White repression has own community. In fact, however, real increased in a futile attempt to put power remains in the hands of the White down the movement. In tbe last year minority. The majority of the population Or so, hundreds of people have been has no franchise The attempt has ki1led in police firings. Thousands have proved to be a failure as is obvious been imprisoned and scores have from the fact that only a small minority perished while in custody as a result of of the Ind ian and Coloured electorates police brutalities. It is not possible to (about 20~1o of tbe Indians and 30% estimate how many are being held in of the Coloureds) participated in the prison without trial but the Dumber is elections in August 1984. The vast very large The dauntless spirit of the majority boycotted the so-called elections, anti-Apartheid movement is symboIished f;ereby rejecting the invitation of the in the person of Nelson Mandela a racist regime to become junior partners winner of the Jawaharlal Nehru Award in their own suppression, for International Understanding, who has spent 23 years in the notorious \ The latest instance of the nefarious Robben Island prison. efforts of tbe racist regime to divide 49 S Dis. re : Racial Riots in AUGUST 19. 1985 Alfectlug the People 0/ 496 South A/rico Indian 0 rigin . [Shri Khurshid Alam Kban] Bhanu Sharma may initiate the the oppressed masses concerns the discussion. recent disturbances in the township of Icanda, near Durban, earlier this month. [Translation] Members win h~ve seen reports about SHRI PRATAP BHANU SHARMA these disturbances, which were apparently (Vidisba) : Mr. Chairman, Sir, the triggered off by the murder of a black hon. Minister has just DOW giveD human rights lawyer, Mrs. Victoria detailed information about the racial Mxenge. People attending the memorial riots in South Africa and the critical lervi~ for Mrs. M"enge were attacked situation that has arisen there" It is by some hooligans. In the ensuing natural1y and undoubtedly a matter of disturbances,. some 6 5 people, including concern for all of us, for the entire a few peopJe of Indian origin, are humanity, for those powers who believe reported to have lost their lives. The in freedom and democracy aod for a turbulaoce also spilled over to the developing country like India \\ bicb is nearby Phoenix Settlement set up by chairman of NAM. Mahatma Gandhi in the t 890s and some buiJdings associated with Gandhiji 'Were destroyed. The racist regime 17.15 hrs. showed nO inclination to intervene and restore peace and order. Its police did [DEPUTY-SPEAKER in the Chair] DOthing to protect the lives and properties of people, incJuding tbose. of Indian origin, The people of I ndian origin who when they were attacked by anti-social had gone. to South Africa and settled elements. There is ample reason to there about 100 to 125 years ago had suspect the hand of the South African contributed a lot by dint of their hard Government and their hired agents in work in strengthening the economy of the disturbances. I would like to Sour h Africa. They joined hands witb inform tbe House that this perception the South African people in every way is . shared by the ANC and leaders of and cooperated with them in the develop other African States. ment of South Africa. Not only this, We are confident that tile people of our country had been taking keen SoUth Africa win see through the interest in the struggle fOI freedom of transparent attempts of the racist regime South Africa being waged by tbe South 10 create artificial divisions io their African people since long. Mahatma ranks. The racists' manoeuvres cannot Gandhi, the Father of our Nation, bad started his Satyagraba Movement on stop the march of history. The oppressed people of SOuth Africa will carry their tbe soH of Soutb Africa itself against united struggle to a successful conclusioD. toe racist regime and the policy of apartheid practised by it. He spent I would like t9 assure the House tbat 20 years of his youth in South Africa. India will spare no efforts in mobilising During his stay in South Africa Mahatma worl j public opinion in support of the Gandhi raised his voice against the South ·African people's just struggle for White Government for the inhuman a better, more equitable and bumane acts committed by them against tbe order under conditions of full freedom. people of Indian origin and Don-whites. He infused confidence among the people of South Africa that the voice for the 17,14 brs. independence of the country can be DISCUSSION RE: RACIAL RIOTS raised 00 tbe 'world forum with the IN SOUTH AFRICA AFFECTING support aDd cooperation of tbe Indian THE PEOPLE OF INDIAN people. He launched movements and ORIGIN-Conld. tried to bring roung the White reaime to his point of view in a DOD.vioient [English] and peaceful way. Thereafter "beD' MR. CHAIRMAN Mr. Pratap be returned to India, he became a boro~ 497 Dis. re : Racial Riots in SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Affecting the People 498 South Africa of Indian Origin He had gained self.confidence and claim themsel yes to be progressive OD inspiration when he came back to the international forum are turing a India,_ I will,·' therefore, like to say dear ear to the voice of the -people of that tbe history of freedom strugile of our South Africa. They become partners country and the freedom struggle of in the economic activities of that country South Africa, which is still continuing, through multinational companies by are interlinked. It IS, therefore, naturany extending their cooperation and thul a matter of concern for us that the exploit their natural resources. In this white regime of South Africa which way they exploit the people of that believed in apartheid and racist policies country for their own s'!lfish ends~ is sitU perpetuating excesses on the majority community of South Africa Mr. Speaker, Sir, the riots in South and the people of Indian origin settled Africa is not a new pheno there. menOQ. There is a long history behind it. If we go into this matter in depth we win find that _the white Govern. We are proud that our democratic ment in South Africa is following tho and developing country has drawn the same double standards which bad earlier attention of the international community been experienced by India. They are towards thi~ issue. India is the first only interested in perpetuating im country which raised the matter of perialism and nothing el~e. We are granting freedom to South Africa in proud that the foreign policy of our the United Nations Organis:1tion. Pandit country was framed under the guidance Jawaharlal Nehru had tremendous love of Mahatma Gandhi. Pandit Nehru and f.or the African people which cannot be Indiraji and· our country took described in words. The Gandhian and the lead in raising the voice about Nehru traditions have prospered in our Africa and in highlighting the wrong country. Our country has also raised poJicies being ron owed by . the white its voice against imperialism, racialism regime in South Africa. India was tho and the policy of apartheid in the UNO, first country to support the cause the Union for African Solidar ity and the of South Africa. forum of non-aligned movement. On the basis of thess facts we can today say Mr. Speaker, Sir, even today if we 10 our sympathy, our initiative and our into the problems faced by tbe people of moral and ideolog ical support for South Indian origin in Soutb Africa, we will Africa has created confid:nce among find that tbe policies adopted by Peter the people of South Africa that they Botha in South Africa are responsiblo will also one day achieve independence. for tbese problems. The Peter Botba The freedom struggle launched by Government decided two years back to Mahatma Gandhi for the freedom of discriminate against the people of Indian South Africa is still a source of inspiration ongln, the non-white population of for the South African people. South Africa, who are the backbone of that country and original1y belonged to 17.19 hrs. it. It is very strange that the regime of South Africa is perpetuating untold cruelties on the people of that country in [MR. SPEAKER in the Chair] the name of democracy and humanity. The Government in South Africa has Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will like to say created tricameral legislature in tho coun. that the Whi te regime of Soutb Africa try by amending its policies. Thore is nO is still cxploitiol the· African people and other instance of such a cruel joke with the non. whites through its black deeds and the people of a country of tbe world. double standards and spreading imp One House is for the people of Indian erialism. Tho white minority is still origin, the second is for the mixed raco ruilng the maJority community who have and tbe tbird is for the minority commu. virtually built South Africa. Today nity, the population of which is only 40 to the protalooists of democracy who 4S lakhs. But ,DO House bas been created 499 Dis. re : Racial Riots in AUGUST 19, 1985 Affecting the P~ople of 500 South Africa Indian Origin ISbri Pratap Bhanu Sharma] Government is even now adopting discri for the permanent citizens of the country minatary policy against the people. who have built up that country with their bard work. The so· called protagonists I want to P9int out that today our of democracy overlooked that fact. Our youth Jeader Shri Rajiv Gandhi is the country is the first couotry to raise its head of the Non.aljgned Movement. He vOice against tbe so-calJed protagonists of occupies an important position in the the democracy. When our late Prime international field and the efforts made Minister Shrimati Indira Gandhi gave a by him to bring about peace in the world call to the people of South Africa and have been (tppreciated, He is also repre the people of Indian origin in Africa that senting OUf country in the international they should Dot take part in the elections forums as head of the under-privileged and being Member of U.N.O. pleaded the countries. He has taken upon himself to cause of South Africa which was sup continue the traditions of Mahatma ported by the other countries and con Gandhi, Nehruji and Shrirnati Indira sequently in August last year the Consti Gandhi. Today the reopte of the world tution was rescinded. Only IOta 15 are .looking towards him \\ith hopes and per cent people of the country took part ex pecta t ions. in the elections. \Vhen the majorIty community is not alJo\\ed to' exercise Today the situation in South Africa franchise, the white regime in South has taken such a turn that it is now Africa has no moral right to rule the advancing towards freedom; public opinion country and exploit the South Afrkan bas been awakened there. The black people. The) have a]so no moral right deeds of the minority Government in to imprison the people of South Africa. South Africa have been exposed. In tbe circumstances it becomes our duty to Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to know from corre f0Tward and guide the people 0 f the Minister of State in the Ministry of South Africa in their struggle for freedom External Affairs, who is present ar tbe from the clutches of the imperialist moment in tbis temple of the largest nations who are exploiting the country. democracy of the world, whether we Such an opportunity had Dot been provi cannot convey our feelings through this ded to us earlier and it is not likely to forum to the international forum. We be repeated in future. must convey our feelings to the inter national forum.. I also want to know the In the end, I wiJl like to say that to steps taken by us in the direction with a day we can reiterate our demand through view to eliminate these abnormalities. the non-aligned countries We can also We should give a serious tbought to all support the cause of the African countries these things. Mr. Speaker, Sir by the as a member of the UNO. Today the racial riots after recent elections in South African countries have arrived at the Africa I am reminded of what the Late verge of independence. The first step Shrimati Indira Gandhi bad said at that which is necessary to mobilise world time. She had said that the process of opinion is to release Nelson Mandela. elections or the process of dividing the He is likely to become African GaQdhi if Legislature into three parts is onJy an we take initiative for the release of this eye-wash. Under the garb of it the national leader by mobilising the support racist regime of South Africa wants to of the non-aligned nations in the Inter create a cleavage among the people of nationa1 forum. Nelson Mandela is a man Indian origin and the non-whites in order of commanding personality in Africa. We to divide them. Now within a period of can compare him with Mahatma Gandhi one year it has become clear that the dual because during the last 20 years he has policy has been adopted in regard to the not even once asked for his release and Don-white people only to mislead the he has not surrendered himself bt;fore world. The policy being followed in the the African rc:gime. He has &aid that case of non-whites is different in practice his release and the independence than what it js in theory. Peter Borha of South Africa. are synonymous. Our 501 Dis re: Racial Riots in SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Affecting the People 502 S Juth Africa of Indian Origin country should take initiative for the hoodlums, iocidentaly or accidentally, but independence of South Africa. because of the organised effort of tbe South African racist Government. Be. Our Prime Minister Shri Rajiv Gandhi cause of the encouragement given by should come forward aod take a lead in them, these incidents have taken place.. the international forum. We are confi dent that following the high traditions set The Minister in his statement initially by our great )eaders~ our young Prime also referred to the suspected hand of tbe Minister will take a lead in guiding the South African Government. Therefore, people of South Africa in their struggle this requires a greater sense of urgency. for freedom. importance, gravity and concern for all of us. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we are very grateful to you for the time given to us and also We had a detailed report from Sbri to the Minister of State in the Ministry mati Sushiia Gandhi, daughter-in-Jaw of of External Affairs for throwing light 00 Mahatma Gandhi. She writes to say the subject. We want that in view of the that the house which was constructed by circumstances prevailing in South Africa them about five-six decades back was at present, we should demand the release deliberately destroyed. This is the of Nelsion Mandela and give a call to House which was dedicated to tbe the people of Indian origin in South memory of Kasturba Gandhi. The Africa so lhat no cleavage or division is house which was constructed by Mahatma created among the non· whites and the Gandhi originally at Phoenix was des people of Indian origin. The (jandhi troyed previously. A few years back, it Ashram which inspired the people for was remodelled and reconstructed and freedom struggle is be ng burnt. This given the name of Sarvodaya Bhavan and aspect should als.J be taken care of. it houses at the moment a library, a museum, a library and several other things. [English] It was a huge complex in a vast area of 150 acres. This is the place which had SHRI S.M. BHATTAM (Visakha become the target of attack by the blacks patnam): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have under the instigation of the racist Govern carefulJy listened to the statement made ment of South Africa. Previously also, by the hon, Minister in this regard. Un they took several steps with a view to fortunately, he has never made any men eliminate all unwanted elemente which tion of certain cruel, ghastly and inhuman included the Indians also. incidents which took place, particularly about the .Indians and also on the Phoneix settlement of Mabatma Gandhi She refers here in this article to and that is the real cause of action, tbat some of the recent steps taken by the is tbe real provocation, that is tbe sub South African Government. ject-metter which is now actually under discussion and because of sucb occur ·'The Government tried to obliterate rences, because of those incidents, we us through the Group Areas Act. thought it fit to bring the subject to the They deliberately defined the area notice of the House for discussion. in which the ashram was situated That is the very subject wbich as a black area." the hon. Minister. for some reasons, has thought it fit to omit which, The Phoenix settJement area came I consider, is not very proper. within the purview of that and they We read in the press that banned the entry of Indian citizens to the Phoenix sattlement of Mahatma that area. In fact, they wanted to bundlo Gandhi was outraged, was pillaged, them out and send them' out from that was pi uodered and totally destroyed area and they have successfully resisted deliberately, not by boolipns or that. They are able to continue in that 503 Dis. re : Racial Riots in AUGUST 19, 1985 Affecting the People of 504 South Africa Iudian Origil1 [Shri S.M. BhattamJ African Government. Unless certain settlement in spi te of the repeated drastic steps are taken, it is impossible to attempts made by the South African contain the South African Governm~nt in racist Government. Later, when they their reckless and inhuman approach to banned the South African Congress and these problems. also the Indian Congress, they have organised a United DemoCf8,tic Front. The Sir, it is said that the policy of the United Damocratic Front was again apartheid is a crime against humanity, wedded to peaceful and non-violent The Charter of the Humln Rights of the Gandbian methods in their approach to United Nations is against the policy of problems, in safeguarding the human apartheid. ,In South'Africa, th~ political rights and in protecting their interests. rights are no longer there. Democracy They wanted to boycott the farcical elec is totally non-existent. The racist tions which were conducted and to which government, a vestige of the colonial the Minister has rightly made a reference. past, which takes on itself all Fascist At that time when they were conducting a pewers, is still continuing to act in this peaceful agitation and the movement inhuman manner. Sir, if I can say, this, against the farcical elections which were racism is surviving in South Africa, if taking place, the South African Govern Dot witb the direct. but indirect support ment engineered nots. ,Here the of the United States of America. If daughter-in-law of Mahatma Gandhi that is not so, they should necessarily says: take initiative and do the needful in the matter and even threaten to impose eco "My son-in-law Mewa was among nomic sanctions against the South tbose arrested and locked up African Government. without trial for eight months. My daughter Ela and her husband MR. SPEAKER: Shri Swell. 10 Mewa bad already served a sen ... Minutes. Sir. tence of 1 5 years under house arrest and I had long since been SHRI G.G, SWELL: Well, I will try declared a stateless person." my best. This is what she was saying about the MR, SPEAKER: You have to. There situation there. The South African is no option. Government instigated the Blacks to violence, engineered all sorts of atro cities and they bad made life a veritable SHRI G,G. SWELL: I think we hell and made it impossible to 1ive there, grateful to the Minister of State for having started off with reading a state Sir, the policy of the apartheid, which ment of the GovernmenCs stand on this is universally condemned both by the questiion, As a Governmpnt~s statement, UN and all the nations in the world still it has its on cachet, its own imprimatur, continues in the same old fasbion and in it conveys its own message which will be the same form in South Africa. The taken notice of by the country and the United States of America' with which we world at large. But I wish the statement recently forged better and more friendly had had more depth, more crispness relations should be able to exert its in about it, more fioesse~ more of a fluence on South Africa. And if they cri de coeur and not so much are to make use of their good offices, officialese. Having said that Sir, it this is the very area where they should is a sad occasion for me to stand come into the picture and do something in this House and to hear the story that useful and needful and on time too. If what was. what is qnd what will ever be, they are not merely offering lip sympathy the shrine of the finest of the human and service against the policy of apar spirit struggling against tyranny bas been theid' they must even threaten to impose attacked, ruined and desecrated. But economic sanctions against the South puny men like Peter Botha, the President 505 Dis. re : RaCial Riots in SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) A.ffectiug the People 506. South Africa of lndiau Origin of the apartheid regime of South Africa the people who had gone there from would commit a very serious mistake to somewhere. They are the looters; they think that they could kill that spirit, the had deprived the peopJe of the sail of spirit of Mahatma Gandhi, the spirit t.hat the land; this 15010 of the people enjoy was responsible for the freedom of 700 80% of. the best land of South Africa. million Indians, the spirit that is today They have had the run of that country. like a torch neglecting the desire for free During the days of imperialism, the days dom of all the human races, the spirit of colon iaJ ism. They had the run of the that Jawahlrlal Nehru once said, will keep country; and in latter days when they on shining one thousand years from posed them'ielves as champions of anti today, when we all will have disappeared c lmmunism, they had the run of the from th's p anet. It is no les~ a P!fSOO h~drts of the so-caJled anti-communIst than Sushila G lndni. t:le dlughter.in-llW dem')craci!s of the W~st. But to-day, of Mahatma G Indhi wh:) lived for h ilf a even thes~ who consider South Africa century there who bore witness that thi'i their friend, who think that their interests was not the work of the blacks. that it in ~outh Africa are m~r.! imporLant than was the work of the few goons arnong th~ value. thln the dignity of hu TI:ln life, the blacks, and they were set upon this even these peo;Jle are feeling embarrassed. ashram, because it stood for something very different from what apa .. thdd stoDd And so they went from gimmick· to gim for. But as she said and as the n1 me m;ck First, the independent Bal)tustan, it of this ashram itself will phoenix-like dd not work. Nobody toucb~d this with the rise again frol1 the ashes; and let us hope longest pair of tongs. Nobody recognised that this spirit will lead the people of tr-a l 15ker, or whatever it wa~. Then the South Africa to freedom from this abomina gimmick of the tri-cameral Parliament, ble concept of apartheid. In a sense. Sir I the tri-cameral legislature in which, as think there is reason to be gratified for the Minister of State said, the coloureds what they have done to the ashram of have their o.vn parliament. the Asians Mahatma Glndhi. If there is any sign, have their own p.uliament, but the whole this is the sure sign that the apartheid power is still in the hands of the Whites. regime of Africa, is todlY an anim11 It is an euphemism of a parliament; the driv.!n to the corner, and resorting to all parJiamenfs of the South Africa' is no wiles and guiles and viziousnes~ in order [Shri G. G. Swen] SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO Why Sir, just give me two more minutes. not? I am not talking no~sense. There is another weapon which the blacks have. SHRJ G. G. SWELL: It is remote: The economy of South Africa exists on SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO: If the cheap slave labour of the black the Cubans can send the army why not people. These people today have shown us ? that they are prepared to stand up and lose their job, go hungry, if necessary. SHRI G.G. S\\ELL: Well, I don't but will not move the economic wheels of think that you are going to do that, but the apartheid regime any more. something you can do. You can kill thtir economic muscles, mobilize opinion, You must have read a report in the get international fund in order to heJp paper that Pter Botha wants to meet this the starving workers in South Africa to by threatening to expel about 400-500.000 stand up; and I say if they do that just black workers from nther parts of Africa for six months, the whole edifice of the who have gone there to work. So, what? South African regime will collapse. Everybody talks of economIC sanction. It is gratifying that even some countries I would -like to make this appeal to the in the West have realised this. They Prime l\.1inister. In October, tbe Heads have recalled their Ambassadors. They of the CommoDweallh are going to meet. are talking of economi.; sanction The I wish the Prime Minister to take it up French Government had moved in the there and put the British Government Security Council a resolution for e~ono against wall. Let the Heads of the mic sanction. They are dOing some Commonwealth Government say some thing. but not enough. You may ask thing finite and ask the Br itish Govern me a question: how is it possible for ment to resort to e.;onomic sanction and this way in the human system? I say, a (edt sanction. wog because it is a poisonous organjsm~ flow bas it been able to stand up to the rest of the world ? If you ask me, I MR. SPEAKER: Shri Hannan have two answers. It is the baloney of MoJIab. President Reagan's c~'nstructive engage ment; it is the hypocrisy of the British SHKI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY : Government which is supposed to be the My name was second in the order paper. mother of Parliaments and freedom and yet think that they see something in the MR. SPEAKER: That does not spec:ch of President Peter Botha. Why? matter. You will get time. B~ause their political aQd eCODonlic in :erc=sts are far greater to them than SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY : and the value the dignity of mao? But No, no, there is no question of getting there is going to be another kind of time. I am not interested in speaking, economic sanction in South Africa itself, but the problem is what is the sanctity and there we come in. of going to the ballot, giving the names again and then putting up in the order When the Minister of State says that paper again ? they will tak.e positive action, I would ask him what positive action ? When ( Interruptions) you speak oC posi tive action to help people of Africa to free themselves from MR. SPEAKER: This is not calling this obnovious regi me, I would like to attention; this is 193. kn~w what kinj of action you have in mind? You are not going to send tbe SHRI BRAJAMOHAN MOHANTY: Indian army to Scuth Africa. It had been mcn·tioned earlier about tho S09 Dis. re : Raciat Riots in SRAVANA 28,190 7 (SAK4) Affecting the People 510 South Africa oj Indian 0 ricin " special facilities that is tbose persons social progress, we are forced to witness wbose names (Interruptions) the declaration of race war as a policy by a Government, if it is calJed a Govern MR. SPEAKER: If the mover had ment at all. Dot been there, you would have been caUed. Otherwise, .you are as good as Sir, as it bas been mentioned already, as any other member is. less than 15 per cent of the people are controlling 87 per cent of the best land ( Interruptions) there. And 73 per cent of the popula tion have only 1 3 per cent or the waste MR SPE,\KER: It is not that; it land there. And all the mineral resources is not like that Try to understand "the are controlled by 400 foreign companies. rules. We are very very respectful to The largest among them are 13 USA you also. No problem. based multi-national companies" That is the reason why these American and SHRI HANNAN MOLLAH (Ulube British imperialists have vetoed the U.N. ria): I agree with the sentiments ex resolution for sanctions against South pressed by hone Members from all the Africa. sides regarding the question of the racist, Fascist and the most inhuman 18.00 hrs. ruling clique the junta of Botha in South Africa and their activities. Some un We from India have a tradition to fortunate occurrence took place in which stand by the liberation struggle and the some people of Indian origin were killed. people who are struggling for d~mocracy The imperialist forces through their and equ3Iity. In this situation we have tactics of devide and rule are using this to rise to t.he occasion. \\e have to incident for their purposes of divide and raise these denlands and try to see that rule. Tbe people of tbe Indian origin they are implemented. One of them is and the Black Africans, are all unitedly that Nel30n Mandella and other political fighting for equality, freedom and demo prisoners are freed. Particularly I would cracy. But certain anti-social elements like to mention here the name, among the have been used by the imperialist forces thousands of prisoners, of one young to attack a section of the Indian people. activist, Shri Benjialnin Moloise, who is Therefore this incident has to be under 2 2 years old. There is a conspiracy to stood in that light. Even the leaders of kill him inside the jail. We sbould try the Indian people there like Parveen for his release. I appeal to our Govern GOIkban say that it has not been done ment to see that his life is saved. At by the African people but organised by the same time, we also demand that the the racist regin.e. And even the Police Botha regime which has declared in the did not take any action against that name of erIlergency, war against the riotous attack. They used the incident people of South Africa, that should be to create a rift between the Indians and liftt!d. It will be a good sign that the the African origin people. But the people African people and people of Indian there are united; they understand the origin will be unitedly fighting to see situation and they are fighting the racist that the Botha Government is thrown regime. out and democracy and equality prevails. 17.56 brs. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (Mor mugao): As Paodit Nehru and Indiraji [SHRI SOMNATH RA TH in the Chair) used to say often our freedom movement was Dot merely a struggle to free our The South African situation has already selves fronl the British colonial rule, but been mentioned by the hone Minister it was the expression of a world view in his statement, but. it is shameful that which perceived that every oppressed in this a~e of national liberation move penon. the weak anywhere in the world" ment. in this age of advancemcn't of have the right to justice, equality and a S 11 Dis. re : Racial Riols in AUGUST 19,1985 Affectiug the People of 5 I 2 SQuth Africa Indian 0 rigin [Shri Eduardo Faleiro] in South Africa. We must also congra fair deal and that we must always be with tulate the action taken by Denmark, and them. It i$ in this context that we take countries like Netherlands, and Greece, an active interest in wt,at is happening in which, inside the EEC, have called for South Afrka today. And this is just a disinvestment and for stopping the in continuation of our interest in South vestment and loaps to South Africa. African affairs for a very very long The situation in South Africa for the time. racist regime is bleak indeed. Corpres of young whites killed in Namibia are being brought to South Africa, are being It is alOio Dot without significance that killed in Namibia. Young whites, just Mahatma Gandhi really moved by the as it happened at the time of Vietnam problems of that country, decided tl.") take war in United Stat~s. are refusing to fight the leadership of our freedom movement in Namibia There 'is a movement insido after what h& ppened to him in South South Africa against the illegal occupation Africa, after t e himself e"rerienced the of the old South-West Africa of Namibia. t,runt of rdcism in that country. Suffice What is the economic situation in South it to say to appreciate the gravity of the Africa? Loans up to the first six months situation flOW that racialism during of this year. Totalkd 165 million dollars Mahatma Gandhi's days in South Africa which is a substantial increase over the was a milder version that what happened previous -years. G('ld, the major export afterw, rjs. of South Africa, has slulnped in the inter na tional market. Prices of this major Mahatma Gandhi was in South Afr ica export have gone down. The expenditure in the early forf;es when General Smuos on defence alone h more than 20 per and his United Party we're stil] ru1ing that cent of its totaJ budget. The defence of countr y. Apartheid as a legal pOlicy, South Africa against their own people. aparthdd as the corJ?er stone of the do So, now South Africa finds itself in the mestic and international policy of Soutb midst of an economic crisis and, there Afdca , bad Dot yet emerged. It was fore, we must call upon, as Prof. Swell later. in 1948 that the notorious Dr. has said, the international community, the Malian. President of th! National Party non-aJigned movement, and particu)arly of South Africa, the same party to which the last bastion of support to South Mr. Botha now belongs, formulated and African United States administration under enunciated apartheid. as the corner stone President Reagan, United Kingdom and, of South Africa policy-apartheid which I may add. Federal Republic of Ger the United Nations has declared to be a many, the three last supports of South sheer crime--a crime against humanity. Africa economy to put an end to their support of the racist regime. In the What we are witnessing today in the United States, both the Houses of the midst of the turmoil that is encircling the Congress, have passed a resolution urging people C'f that country is the death knell economic sanctions against. South Africa being sounded on tbe racist regime.. It but President Reagan sticks to his. con is a turning point in ~he history of South cept of "constructive engagement" whicb, Africa. Apartheid now sees the begin in substance, is nothing but support, a ning of its end. I am saying this on a covert support, to the racist regime, It very realistic assessment. For the first is important that we should play an ac j. time in more than 30 years we find one vist role not merely in the non-aJigned of the Western countries in the Security movement but the world over, and parti. Council raising the question of sanctions cularly before the United States, and against South Africa. We must congra. United Kingdom so that tbey see tbat tulate France for having taken this bold their investments, their money are DO step of denouncing the South African longer safe un der the racist regime of racist regime by announcing on its own, Mr. Botha and of his National Party. Much economic sanctions against South Africa. bas been said here a bout the assault on What France bas done will go a 1001 way pboenix at Gandhi Ji's Ashram at Pho in deltabilisina the criminal raci.t regime enix. Mr. Mewaram Gobind, the &1'aDd S 13 Dls. re : Raciat Riots in SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAK4) Affecting the People 514' South Africa of Indian Origin son-in-law of Mahatma Gandhi himself The struggle has seen a struggle of, soli has come out in the open to say that it darity of the Indians and ,Africans. They has Dot been that Africans have been in ha ve been together. Mewa Ram Govind volved in this atrocious act, it bas been himself is accused of treason. Out of tbe hooligans, it has been the gangs sixteen leaders accused of treason DOW, sponsored by the white racist regime including Nelson Mandela, eight are through themselves :,nd through their Indians. Their struggle is common. This stooges like Chief Bu:Jezi who have been . solidarity must continue until tbe end. involved in these acts. These are the acts of hooliganism in which three Indians I may like to say, it is a matter of have died,. and lhere has also been a great pleasure for all of us to have the revenge on the part of Indians. Prime Minister attending this debate. I am sure it is a great encouragement for As you know, it was about a year ago the non-aligned worJd and for the op that the bogus constitutional reforms pressed countries of tbe world. As Prof. which have been denounced by the whole Swell has said, Our officials make beauti world, by the United Na~ions, were an ful stat~ments which will cover all the nounced by the Botha regime. The bogus points. And this time it is not the offi- constitutional reforms p~ovided for three ,. cial, but a man of eminence, the Minis Chambers-a Chamber for the whites ter . of External Affairs. But it gives which has the power to make all the laws, a different dimension and a diffierent and bogus Chambers for the coloured and note of support when the head of for the Indians, with very limited powers. the Government, the Prime Minister, They call all the Asians as IndIans. himself com(s out and speaks on Only stooges voted and were electcd to thc this matter. Indian Chamber. Some M. Ps., so-called M .Ps. t were elected by a hundred votes. While the electorate had tens of thousands I wiIJ, therefore, submit the following of vetes, Indian M. Ps. were elecled by a that the Government of India may do hundred voles. This just shows that the and I am putting it for the consideration Indian communi'Y in the large majC?rity of the Government of India. did not at aU p41rticipate in the bogus elections. Now, it is these bogus MP$ .••• (1) Initiative at diplomatic .level to bring round the United States and the SHRI G G. S\VELL : They are being United Kingdom in particular to support paid 1 5,000 dolianJ a ,month. the movement against the racist regime. SHRI EDUARDO FALEIRO (2) I may mention this coming to have been bOtlght, as my colleague says, bra~s tacks. We have always supported who have been instigating riots. of the. the African National Congress. We Indians against thl Blacks. And if three ha,-e supported them by words and by Indians died, sco~es. hundreds of blacks .deeds. Now, ahe African National Cong died in revenge of Indians against the ress, including in India itself, finds some blacks. What is important to remember problems that they are facing. And whatever at this moment is that both Indians and matetial help we may give in addition to_ Africans are black by the South African what we have given, I beseech the standard. Both of them have always Government to give it to the African fought together They have always been Na(iona1 Congress. We have committed second-class citizens, as distinguisbed ourselves to this cause. Our philosophy. fr9m many parts of .Africa. And one enjoins . upon us to support' all the may remember what happened in tbe S Os. people of Africa, all the oppressed In 1 957, for example, when some riots people of Asia; all oppressed everywhere; took place ~D Durban some Indian women and South Africa is a case in point. We were dismis!od and laid off from WOJ~. are with them and we will show that we Aa a result of thil, all Africans jointly bave been with them and we will continue went on strike in support of tbe Indians. to be with them always. .SIS Dis. re : Racial Riots in AUGUST 19. 1985 Affecting the People 0/ S 16 South A/rica' Indian Origin SHRI S. JAIPAL REDDY (Mahbub A time has come for lndia (as Leader nagar): This is a question on which of tbe Third World) to take iDitia~ive in tbere is absolute unanimity in the Hous", alJ tb.: fora of tbe world ; and I am sure and in the nation. Our frustration stems our Government will rise t9 the occaSion mainly from the helplessness in spite of and held aloff the baDner of freedom. tbe unioimity not only in tbe country, but among all the freedom lovers in the PROF. P.l. KURIEN (Idukki) : Sir, world. I completely echo the feelings since much has been said on this subject voiced by Mr. Swell and Mr. Faleiro in I do not want to take more of the time this regard. The Apartheid regime in of the House., 1 he entire world is out South Africa· bas. been deriving cov~rt raged over the repression let. loose by support from President Reagan's policy the apartheid regime in South Africa on of constructive engagement and also from the blacks.. The blacks are united. They tbe benevolent policy, of Mr~. Mar garate are fighting against the aparth-:id regime Thatcher her~elf. It is, of course. very for the emancipation of .the people of. hearl~niDg to Dote that apart from France South Africa and in the interest of all and the Scandinavian countries, even freedom-loving people of the 'Yor1d. Canada has moved in the matter. They The people of the world are uni ted with have all begun to urge for economic sane.. the blacks in their fight against thi~ tions against South Africa. As has ret!ime We are naturally concerned and been pointed out even the US Senate an-guished over the latest developments by an overwhelming n~ajority .. viz 80 to there. There were bloo ~y clashes between 12 majority voted for economic sanc black~ and people of Indian origin and t"ons against South Africa. But in spite it has been renorted that manv people of such overwhelming ,\UPDort for the were' killed and even the Phoenix settle ,Blacks in South o\fric 19 Pr.!sident . Reagan ment founded by Gandhiji has been burnt is Dot Iik¢Iy to give assent to the Resol u. dl.)wn. Phoenix settlement, as we know, lion of the U3 Seoite itself. I think j~ the ~tandin~ monument of racial har here our Govt!ram~nt sllould b~ ab:e to mony and the quest for freecfom and help. We should b~ able to apPcli to dignify. jt is in this city nf Durban that President Reag~n. If De~ssary our Prim.: Mahatma Gandhi started his civil dis Minister has to write to Presid~nt Reagan obed ience movement and fight against requesting that he should pay heed to th~ racial oppression. T erefore we are emo resoluiion of his own. Senate. Though it tio'1allv linked with the blackmen's fight is a matter of deep regret t nat Phoenix ag~ins~ racial 'opression and colonialism. settlement has been razed to the ground, we must remember that tbe grea est m! morial to tbe greatest man of the ag~, Sir it is unfortunate that such a Gandhiji, is the freedom of Africans in devel~pment should have taken plar.e in . , South Africa. It is 'n~t the ,Settlem~Qt that area a~d I have no doubt that these or any buikiing that can serve as a true deve'opm~nf~. the~e clashes, ar~ the memorial. I am also of the view that manifestations of the mac~inations of Government of In'dia should extend all the South African racist regime to divide material help to the black .freedom the Indians aryd the Blacks. fighters. I know we arc a poor country ourselves~ But we should d" our mite .. Sir" Our Prime \.finister has caned I will not be opposed to the policy of uo"n an the non-whites, and Dot only extending ·c\·en military as~istaQce. How no,,-white~. but the whites who, are ever nominal the militlry as~istanco might oooosed to apartheid. to unite and· be. you must appr~.;iate th 1t gestures too fl"ht. to van":1ui~h thec;e r~cja 1 'policies. are important in the drea of internati~.lal He' ha~ cle'\rly stated th1.t o~r freedom affairs. We have ~1I seen, how South i~ not col'Tlolete 'u" lese; . an t~e 'countries Africa h:lS de6ed the will (if th:: whole in th3 W"lrJd which are under coloDJaI world We fee rbj, not only in S~utft yolee are liberated and emancipated'. Afric~, but .in Namibia.' (t is .'so· attack 4 ing all th.,· froat.lioc African States. Ooly aotswao&. , conclu~. "a few months back it attacked MR . CHAIRMAN: . . Please 517 Dis re: Racial RiotsJn' SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Affecting the People S 18 Saut,h A/rica of Indian Origin ' PROF. P J. KURIEN: I have only , African Government is tactfuUy tryiol started. I am only at my introductory to divide tbe oOD:wbites is' very cJear. stale. -(Interruptions) They have recently set up a kind of ~' \ ~arliament, a tri-cameral Parliament where In his statement, he has specifican~ , 5 million whites a-re having one house. clearly and unequivocally expressed our Two million mixed bloods are having support to the" fight th:lt is being waged another House;' and one million Asians by the blacks in South Africa. You are baving a third House. There arc know what is the dimension and the three Houses. But the e~tirc autborjty monstrous character of apartbt'id. is with the Whites' only. And the omost Actually this monster is the' evil created unfortunate thing is, 22 millions -of Blacks by the white colonial rule. Twenty two >. are eompletely excluded from this million blacks in South Africa are Parliament. denied all kinds of freedom, they have no political freedom. they have no rights of citizenship, five millions of And tbat too in a three-tier system white people are controlling tbe govt. 22 minion Blacks have been excluded, These blacks' are I iving in slums called from this Parliamentary system. It is ghe'ttos. They cannot go out of these not true that the Indians have assOciated ghettos. If they move out, they will themselves with, this parliamentary be gunned down, they will he taken system or they have become a junior away, tbey win be arrested. And sO partner to this white rulc. A-' few many such people are arrested and people might have associated tbemseives are being killed in jails. Tbis with it.· It has already been said that type of atrocities are being committed the voting pattern has clearly showed by the whites on the blacks in South that majority of the Indians arc dis. Africa. What c In we do at this nloment? aSSOCiating with this.'- But what bas Our PI ime Minister, Shri Rajivji is the actually happened is Peter Botha's Chairman of the NAM. Our fort;igo design to divide Indians and Whites policy actually ha~ its genesis in our and Indians and Blacks. thereby his freedom movement. That was· a fight machinations are ,becoming successful. against an kinds of oppression. racial I hope even this small minority of and colonial, and Pandifji has given us Indi~ns who are "associated with this the fouof;Jarioo has shown as the correct tri-cameral Parliament will understand way, Indiraji has made it vibrant and the correct mess1ge and come out' openly, Rajivji is now with his dynamic leadership in. condemning this racial regime. leading the noo-aligned nations. I am sure. our duty now is to impress upon the world, as the Chair·man of the Mr. _ Bhattam was mentioning, about NAM, the United States and the western the fight between Indians and Blacks. countries, the need for effecting economic Actually what bad happened Mis not sanctions against tbis apartheid regime at ~lJ a fight against Indians. We should of South Africa. That alone can make not take it tbat way. It was only a this South African leader, Mr. Peter fight against those coUalorafors or Botha understand an~ to' his senses. t hose beneficiaries or this tri .cameral Unless we act this way, it is no use our Parliament which is .only dominated by talking here. the Whites. , In this context, we bayC to . ' exercise moral powe~ on the developed· The Uoited States is indirectly helping our nations. We have to impress upon the racist regime. They talk. of constru~tive tbe -West to act effeCtively to impose engagement, but what are they doing actually ? - They arc only belping the economic sanctions. alainst the South African Government. . apartheid reajme to perpetuate tbis kind of atroeit,ies 01;1 tbe blacks. We should boJdJy teJI the 'United States in ·this regard I am SUfC dynamic Priine Minister our , - to effect II.IlctioDS aaainst tbe South Shri Rajivjit wbo is capable of setiliOI African OtWcmmcDt. HoW the' South so many issucs, especially in oW' couatry S 19 Dis. re : Racial Riots in AUGUST 19, 1985 Affeciillg the PefJp/e 01 520 South Africa .Indian Origin [Prof. P. J. Kurian] , In 1946, when Panditji ~as Head of be has settled so many issues-will be the interim-government, we raised tbe able to make tangible contribution in issue in the United Nations. ' this respect. I am sure thilt the day of liberation of the South African Blacks India was ,the first country to break is not far off: Whatever may be the diplomotic and trade relations with Soutb resistance offered by the South' African Africa. racist regime, I am sure, the resistance of the. bJacks will be stronger "because Our High Commissioner was withdrawn tbey have the moral support of the in 1946 and the -trade embargo was entire peace-loving word entire 'freedom imposed in the satn~ year ~ loving wo.tld~ United Nations which have aJso come out openly in condemning We had much to gain by continuing "apartheid. these circumstances, am In I trade aod relations with South Africa su're, the day when they will be liberated but~ we have stood on our ideals even it it from this yoke is not far. off. has cost us economically and, we are one of the few countri ~s which could THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI have gained so much but, where principles RAlIV GANDHI): Sir. Gandbiji, when are concerned, the COSi is of little coo\:ern. be first raised his voice against oppression, India will continue this struggle. raised it in South Africa. In a way. that was the birth of a new turn in ·our In 195:!~ India herself and other own freedom struggle ()ur freejom cOllntries, again took the initiative in struggle led the' world aod represented the Uoited Nations General Assembly tbe spirit ~f freedom of all the oppresst:d on apartheid. ··peoples in the world. So is it not ironic that tod3Y we here are free and in our Our moral, material' and diplomatic . Parliament we ar~ discussing racialisln support for the A,NC will continue. and -colonialism in South Africa ? In 1981 our Parliament unanimously Many countries became independent pa~sed the ~nti. apartheid United Nations after our independence. 'Unforunately, Convention Act to give effect to the today in South Africa, the Blacks still international ~onventions on the sup- live as second class citizens. . pression and punishment of crime and on apartheid. Many amongst us here in this House 'have not seen racialism or differential We have called for the release of <1Ii' treatment of being treated as sccoad Nelson Mandela. class citizens But, still there arc ciders ~te who must remember tbat in our We raised in a NAM Bureau Meeting country too. we had two sets of rail way in April, 1·985 tbe issue of apartheid carriages. different buses, different houses, in South Africa. aod different localities, although tbe new aeDeratioD might Dot remember this. We have also been urging continuously (or imposi(ion of comprehensivo , Every single' person in "India today m.ndatory sanctions asainst South - feels' for tbe' BJacks ';8 South Africa Africa ""sud feels for their, Ilruale and tho support that this s(rogate ,ets comn Lastly. in AprjJ~ wo recogn ised 'SWAPO from ev~ry single Indian. as - the 'true representatives of tbe t" South.West African people. India, over the yean bal, no many " occasions, raised' it. ",voice for the Blacks India bu al~aYI '&iVei" JM ':iead ia .,ainst colonialism and racialism. this struille aaaiD~t colonialism, apinll 521 Dis. re : Racial Riots In Sl_tAVANA 28,- 1907 (SAKA) Agec/blg the People S 22 South Attica of Indian Origin apartheid and India will continue to Sir, certain lorces io life are irreversi. iive tbis lead. ble. One of tbem is the struggle against colonialism and racialism. South Mrica We hav~ seen various methods of will have "to ablndon apartheid, there is eye-wash" being put forward by the no doubt about it. Recent events have South African regime, the Bantustans probably herald~d the b~giQning" of the and the so called constitutional refGrms end of apartheid in SI)utn Afri_;a. The but, these are not adequate. Some of question is will South Africa and its them, like Bantustans, are totally incorrect powerful friends hive the necessary in principlc. wisdom and (arsight to bring about the desired changes thr~ugh peaceful means? Or will. hundreds and thousands of people There is nO answer to" this strll:gg'e ha ve to die before this evil is removed ? except fJ:eedom for the Blacks in South Africa. Sir, India will continue its fight against raci.dism" and colonialism. Not ooJy Many countries talk of freedom They bilaterally, but also in the international talk of human rights. But we see that fora. " The .struggle in South Africa is not they support South Africa! They slJPport just a struggJe of a f-ew million blacks, it them diplomatically, they support thein is a struggle for all humanity. with their trade, and th;:y support them with investments! SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Basirbat) : Mr. Spea ker Sir, "i f we" are wi r nessing in We have phrases such as constru:tive the last few da~s the beginning of tbe end engagement being used. Sir, we dOt)'t of a,J3rtheid, then I think that we and ail believe that there is any such thing as other forces in the world wh!J are frie"ndly 'constructive engagement' We believe to us, share our views to d:> everything these are phrases to act as eye·"wash for po"ible to hasten this end. the people of the world Sir. jf "construe· tive engagelnent' was effc:ctive, why was There is no cont,oversy here in this it not used in the isldnd iu lh~ Atlantic? P d.rJiament or in our COulltry as far as our Wby w~s it not used in Central America? total revubion and repugnanc~ to this 'type of South African regime goes -and 18 "36 hrs. I would 'have been happy if, perhaps, this Pari iament could Dave unanimously adopted a resolution today here also, [MR. SPEAKER in Ih~ Chair] which could have been propagated throughout the' world. But. unfortu Some countries have acted with sane nately. now perhaps there is no time to .tions, withdrawiol their Ambassadors, prepare such a draft . and we take tbis as a poSitive sign. We hope that 'others will follow sent and WI II ~ROF. N.G. -RANOA: The Speaker go cvon further. momentum will This can speak on our behalf. build and will lead to freedom for every ~ black in South Africa, lead to freedom SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: .Certainly for tbe last corner of colonialism in the he can speak on our bebalf. But ~DY world today. way', Sir, ••• Sir, Oandbiji's Ashram was damaged "darin," 'tbe past few days, Gandhiji's SHRI RAJIY GA"N~HI I think. even DOW we could have a unanimous re Asbram may be' damaged; "but ttie spirit tbat Gandbiji kindled can never be touch lolution. We could ut... .. ed. No matter'who attacks the Alhram Asbr8m cab be rebuilt, can be redooo SHRIINDRAJIT G'UPTA: A short the spirit .that was [English] (3) WbeD C.I.A. ·can launch legal SHRI O.G. SWELL: All this- baa proceodiDllapinst Motarji, tboa no relevancc .•• our G0getDmeot sllould also launch Iepl proc.iiap in tbit SHRI PRIl'A RANJAN DAS MUNSI· CalC • .The debate. bas been of a very go.:,,1 standard. How is be brinliol all this? ( 4) calle,· the steps abOve And I do not understand, how be bas In SQuested are Dot taken, our party seen this film .. ( Interruptions). wm resent it very strC1tl8fy and launch MR. SPBAKBB.: Please conel .... a aatiOowide qitation.. now. 1'.00 .... [Translation] SMRI MOHO. MAHFOOJ AU [EttgJislt] KHAN: It was &be duty of OUt Ambas· sador in America to come ,aad apprilo SHill S. JAiPAL RHODY: O. brill IUbaI_ion, T_ PriIIIe this House about tho film. Whereu 'iii Sir. tbis cue we are briqiaa this "matter to MiDilter was iood CIIOUIh to off. • hi. notice •• (1",.. ,.tlolU) ••• it bis • ..-'ion tbat a rdIOIutioD be adopced' w.. by dIo HOUle., I _YO ODe 1.,..aioIl'. ia duty to iDform UI that in America IUCb a tbis reprd. Tbt, It.eIoNtiOa 1IMt' COIl film is beiDa acreonod. taia aa appeal to tbe peopte.. of' Iadiaa MR.' SPEAKER: PJeaIO concludo orisin tbore to idoIltify themselves with DOW •. tbe Blacb, ill Soutb. Africa aDd maIIo COIIUDoa C&UID;. SHlU MOHO. MAHPOOJ AU KHAN: A copy of thi. film bas reacb cd tho baIlcls of our Prime Minister. I SHat SOMNATB RATH (Aaka): WaDt to know what has boon hi, roactJoa The boD. MInister IIa Ids ltat4IDIat bas aft« -aeoiDa' tbe film about wbat is bap. vi ...ly' cbcdbecI tbo'lIttIadon -isdaa ill I*lina in ~ aud bow Gaodbiji JI -South Af~ aad also tile· atrocities beiDa projected before the public. Tbo counalHod, by tbo Whitt' Regime OIl the Prime MiDilter Ibould iDform tile HOllie ..... aatlwt· or South Africa.' !be about tho nature of protest loclaed bJ PrIme MiDIItet also stated in UDOQ1Iivocal ' him Witb the U .$. GoYciI ...... t atkMIt tHe tonar, the poIicJ of tbe ladiaD' Qowm. dilroapect beIDa abon 10Wards die Pa1bor meat' ad die atepa tho GoYOtDlDDDt 01 ofOurNa_ I1HIk have ·tat_ aad aN·... to· tab. 53 f Dis. re : Racial Riots in AUGUST 19, 1985 Affectiug the People of S 3 2 South Africa Indian Origin 19.02 hrs. their ranks and tight unitedly to vanguish the racist policy:' [SHIll VAKKOM PuRUSHOTHAMAN , in 1M Chair]. The Prime Minister also added that the people of India would be with them. So, [Shri SomDath Rath] we should now strengthen the hand of Sir, the minority White Government our Prime Minister and express in the and its policy of apartheid is reponsi. Resolution the vje~s of our Government ble for the violance in South Africa. We and see that the Racist Government be know very well tbat the attitude of comes a flop and human rights prevail. tbe Whites is always to divide and rule. Those developed countries who loudly What happened in India before the 'Quit speak of .human rights are not keen to see India Movement'? The theD Prime that the minority White Regime comes to Minister of Britain, Mr. Churchij an end. On the other hand the people said that he would Dot preside over tbe of those countries are against the White liquidation of British empire. 'Ihe Regime and against its atrocities and in clarion call given by the Father of the human conduct. So, those Governments Nation, Mahatma Gandhi generated a . in the USA and Britain shoutd be cons national movement in tbe country and cious of the opinion of their people. the British bad to quit. Now, in similar terms, Botha says that be is not prepared [ Translation] to lead the White South African and other minority groups to abd.ication and SHRI HARISH RAWAT (Almora): suicide. This will be going to Mr. Chairman, Sir OUf Prime Minister destroy White South Africans and has made it very clear in the House that their influences and the country strong bonds exist between the freedom. will drift into fractional strife, loving people of IndIa, who believe in the chaos and poverty. The South African equality of all. and ,the freedom-loving racjst Government should be conscious people of Africa. I will not say any of the writing an the wall. It was in thing more in this regard. I wIll oniy South Africa, Mahatma Gandhi started like to say that our Government has taken the Non-vioJence Movement and also the some initiat·ive during the last few months tiviJ Disobedience Movement. Mahatma in regard to disarmament, and im Gandhi's Phoenix Settlement bas been provement of our reI atiens with our a heaven of racial harmony. That is the neighbours. Today the oppressed and ,reason why the White Regime wanted to eX'ploited people of Africa are Jooking destroy it and with their saboteurs, they towards India for taking a lead. We destroyed it. The Gandhian spirit still have had occasion to talk to the youths exists in the hearts of the African people of South African Agencies in several and from the ashes of Phoenix, it will international seminars. Their faces rise in double vigour and put an end to reflected their strong determination to attain independence. the Racja~ Government in South Africa. We are extendi ng moral support to the I would like to quote an earlier South African people in their struggle for sta tew.ent of our Prime Minister. He fr~edom. We are striving to create an said: atmosphere in the, country conducive to at~aining independence, We' are very '·The manoevours of tbe South actively; working for the liberation of the African, Regime shouJd D9t be people of South· Africa and Namibia. aHowed to sow discord among T~ere is no doubt about it. At the ,tbe African and Asian popu same time, it is also equally imp.ortant )ation. This is the time when that we should ~xtend material support all non~ White· people of South also to the South African people along Africa and even those ,sections wit.h m,oral ~upport. We' shouJd aJso among the Whites who oppose take. into active considera tion the" q uestiori the Apartheid Policy, should 'close of imparting trainin'g to the South S 33 Dis. re : Raclat Riots in SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAK4) Affecting the"People 534 South Africa 0/ Indian 0 rigin "African youths desirous of getting some dint of hard work. In view of what has been kind of trainipg here so that they could said by the Prime Minister and various go back and fight against the Botha Members of Our party as well as members regime of South Africa. of the Opposition, I would request tbis august House particular1y the Minister of With these words, I once again thank State for External Affairs that a" Resolu~ the Prime Minister and the Minister of tion expressing our solidarity with tbe State in the Ministry of External Affairs people of, Sout~ Africa on whom the for expressing in explicit terms the strong White regime is per.petuating oppression bonds existing between the people of should be passed unanimous]y, Such a South Africa and the people of India. Resolution will boost the morale of all those countries who want to raise their SHRI RAJ KUMAR RAI (Ghosi) : voice for the protection of humanity. Mr. Chairman, Sir. the discussion raised India bas been fortunate in having in this House about the colonial rule and Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru and Indira the racial riots in South Africa is a timely Gandhi as its leaders. Today, the bold one and I share the feelings expressed by stand taken by Shri Rajiv Gandhi has the earlier !lpeakers and HOD.. Prime made it abundantly clear that India will Minister. Sir, it bas always been the take up their cause. endeavour of India that apartheid is not practised in any part of the world and It is boped that our moral support colonialism "comes to an end. The Father to the people of South Africa will be of our Nation, Mahatma Gandhi, bad' supplemented by material support also started his crusade against colonialism in the form of arms or food supply. We from South Africa itself and accele rated should extend all possible. help without the movement against colonialism there •. hesitation. It is not a matter of inter Rich with the e~per)ence of South Africa, ference in the affairs of any country. It Mahatma Gandhi came to India to start is like the interference being made" by his struggle for protection of humanity Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Banglade5b. and to remove the white rule from India. It is interference against those powers It is irony of fate that tbe land from which have captured territories of other where he got the "impetus and started his countries and want to perpetuate their fight against racialism is still witnessina hegemony there. They will not vocate such activities which are against humanity. tbe. territory occupied by them A handful of whites are perpetuating .easily as pointed out by the pre- oppression on tbe nOD-whites and the ceding speaker. They have control over people of Indian origin. The trade aDd the mineral resources and raw materials of industry and also tQc educational insti South Africa which tbey arc Dot going to tutions, in South Africa run by the surrender easily. A living example of Indians are being destroyed. Not only this, tbis is our India. Had "e not stood fast items like chairs. lens etc. are being there to our cause, tbe world and tbe people of on out from the r~search centres established our own country would Dot have suppor by Mahatma Gandhi are being deprived ted us and the Britishers would not have of items like cbair, lens etc. to obliterate Icft our country. It is a question of his memory. There is a limit to tolerance. humanity. We should take all steps to Tbe other countries of the world exten. secure the liberation of the people of ded us moral support in our fight for South Africa 'freedom. Today, South African COUD tries are looking towards us with expect DR. G.S. R~JHANS (Jbanjharpur): ations because India is Dot only the Mr. Cbairman, Sir. I will say only one or Chairman of Non.aligned movements two tbings and conclude. After tbe but it has also been India's policy to speecb of tbe Prime Minister, there is protect the poor and tbe humanity. It is DotbiDg more to" say. The Britishors not Jimited to tbis; it is a question of foJJowed only two policies. One was tbe jiberating tbose people who weal there as "dog in the manger policy" tbat is neither bounded labour about 100 to 12 S years to work or eat ner allow other. to work back. They carn tbeir bread an d butter by or cal. The second policy of tbo Bri. '35 Dis. re : Racial RiotJ In AUGUST 19. 1985 A/lectillg the People 0/ 536 South Africa Indian Origin (Sbri G,S. Rajbans] ment and foUow the example set by tisbers was "divide and rule"; From the France. It win be a great set... back to ' happenings iD South Africa, it appears the economy of South Africa if pbased that this policy of tho Britisbers is conti. investments are stopped. ouina in South Africa wheroas in other parts of the world this policy of the The Prime Minister has stated tbat Briti.rs has been given a goodbye. The India imposed' a trade embargo OD Soutb tiQts between the people of Asian origin Africa in 1946. Very few of us might $lld '. the blacks that arc taking place' in be aware tbat before 1 946 India used to South Africa remind us of what bappel)cd export huge quantity of goods to South in India around or before 1 947 wben tbe Africa and it was a profitable proposition Britishers created the atmosphere of dis for India. But before us the cause of harmony and hatred between the Hindus the country was upper-most and for this and the Muslims in India. Pakistan was reason we broke our economic relations tbe product of these circumstances and with South Africa. India is facing the coDsequances thereof. We will have to concede that Brjtishers I mean to say that we should continue have very cleverly created differences to follow the path shown to us first of an between the people of Asian origin living by Mahatma Gandhi. then by Pt. Jwa har. in South Africa and the Black poulation Ial Nehru and Indira Gandhi and now of' South Africa and it has becon:e a our Prime Minister Rajiv G;:lndhi. very serious problem for aU of us, We Rajiv Ganai has given able leadership to have fuU sympathy with the blacks and we the country and to the non-aligned would like to caution the people of nations, We should mobilise public Indian origin in South Africa that their opinion which should • impress upon interest will be served only if they try to A merica and other \Vestero countries to live in barmoD};_ with the Blacks. They stop shedding crocodile tears and impope should not be misguided by the Whites. economic sanctions 00 South Africa in Iodia has full sympathy with the black real terms. P'>pulation of South Africa, It is very unfortunate that 500 Indian families have suffered there at the hands of Black po I also take this opportunity to point pulation. It is equally regretta'ble that out that in spite of riots between the tbe Ashram of Manatma Gandhi hitS also blacks and the lndians' they have close been destroyed. The Prime Minister has relations among themselves. Some time rightly stated that tbe Ashram of Mahat. back I read in the International Heraled ma Gandhi in South Africa can be and the Tribune that when some Whites ~amaged but the spirit that Gandhiji fired at the Blacks in South Africa, a kindled there can never be touched doctor of Indian origin went to their 10 ... cality and gave them treatment. When A proposal had been made that eco the doctor was about to' co~e out from nomic sanctions should 'be jmpo~ed on the cQlony, White. soldiers misbehaved. the White regime of South Africa. You with him to see that the BlacKs could not are perhaps aware that mainly five count be treated in any hospital. Therefore I ries of the world namely America, want to point out that in spite of all England, France Sweden. and \Vest Ger these things, there is cordial relationship many have made investments in South betw~en the Blacks and the p~ople of Africa France has taken tbe lead and Indian origin there Even now the people it bas rec[11]~d its Ambassador from South of Indian.origin have full sympathy with Africa. It has stopped pbased invest. the Blacks and we should not forget this ment. 1 fYlean to say why should not thing 'Ne should enco~rage such feel America \\ hich sheds crocodiJe tears djs ings arnong them. Now the time has c{'nt inue phased investment in South. come 'that with a view to liberate tl)is Afr:ca, The other countries of the wor1a last colony we should emphatically sup who talk of jmp(\~ing economic sanctions p.ort Nelson Mandela and in no circum 5hould also stop rJ;ased investment. They stances allow South Africa to lenlain as ~bould ,1UO\\) to continue the pas(invest- a colony. With these words, I thank the " LJ S37 Dis re: Racial Riots In SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Affecting the People S38 South Africa of (JUlian Origi" Prime Minister for, extending support to guished. The torch or freedom lighted t1le peOple of South Africa on behalf of, by Mahatma Gandhi cannot be extin India. guished whether the White reginle resorts to destroying memorials of Mahatma SHRI RAMSW AROOP RAM (Gaya) : Gandhi built in South Africa or jmpri. Mr. Cbairman, Sir, all the points relating soning the freedom fighter and disciple of to the subject have been covered and there Mahatm'l Gandhi, Nelson Mandela. for was nothing left on which I should speak. 30 years. I thank both the Prime Minister and the Minister of State in the Ministry of Ex Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want to make a ternal Affairs particularly the Prime submission to Government through this Minister, for taking initiative in knowing august House that we should extend all the feelings of the House and expressing possible help to the freedom fighter:; and' symppthy with the people of South Africa. followers of Mahatma Gandtli. I do not I agree that the riots which are takin,g mean to say that we should provide them place between the Blacks and the Whites arms but whenever we get an opportunity in Africa and the violent incidents that to speak on national forums like NAM have taken place during these riots sym of which India is the Chairman and other bolise that the freedom of Africa is not international forums must raise OUf voice far distant now. These happenings indi and Jay stress on the fact that the White cate that now the White Regime of South Regime of South Africa should be dis Africa can no 100Jer rule the people of missed, democracy should be restored South Africa. there and Nelson MandeJa shouJd be released from jaiL The peo'ple of South Mr. Chairman, Sir. it has been the Africa should be handed over the ad policy of the White Regime to divide and ministration of the country and the re rule and they ruled over us by adopting pression which is being prepetrated by the t his pol icy.. They had indulged in vio White Regime should stoP. Mr. Chair lent incidents .in our country also but the man, Sir, I am confident that the vi~ence blood of the Indians· reSUlted in freedom going on' in Africa and the slogan of for our country. It is unfortunate that freedom raised by the people there signify' the people of South Africa are s til) being the determination of the people of South oppressed by the White Regime. The Africa ,to see that democracy is restored Wh ite' Regime is resorting to this tactic there. The original inhabitants of S!)uth of creating riots between the original in. Africa will definitely achieve indepen hab.itants of South Africa and other dence. people Jiving in South Africa so tha t the people get involved in triflings and the WIth these words, I extend nlY support White Regime is in a P9sition to repress and sympathy to the p'eople of South them. Africa 'and condemn the Peter Botha Regime. South Africa is the land from where Mahat rna Gandhi started h is struggle for [ Engli)h] freedom. The Peter Botha Government THE MINISTER OF STATE IN cannot continue there for long. This has THE MINiSTRY OF EXTERNAL prompt~d them to make attempts to in AFFAIRS (SHRI KHURSHID AL,I\M volve the peopfe of South Africa in KHAN): We fully share the sentiments triflings 'and create dh'ision in them expressed by the hon. NIembers from ~owever, - they will not succeed in i~· an sections of this House and particu\:lrly because Mahatma Gandhi inspired tbe the desire of the hon. Members that a people of South Africa to ~tart t'he strug resolution should ?Iso be moved which gle for freedom there ninety years before. should be adop-ted unanimously. So, I Therefore, I warn the Peter Botha Go propose to move the resoiution with the vernment through this august House that permission of the House. But before the torch of freedom which was lighted that I would certainly like to mention a by Mahat~a Gandhi C8,t;lnot be extin- few things. 539 Dis. re : Racial Riots in AUGUSJ 19. 198' Affecting the P~ople 0/ S 40 South A/rica Indian Origin [Shri Khursid AJam Khan] Apartheid, they say, means separate It is a fact tbat Jndia supported the development., but in practice Apartheid cause of the African people in' every does not only result in serious disadvant international forum and we will cOntinue ages and discrimination but it is a fact to do so. which causes the most serious emotional persecution, social persecution and Some bon. Members wanted to know as pbysical persecution. Racial discrimination to what actually ,we have done. So. briefly in the garb of Apartheid is tbe most I would like to mention tbem. India appalling, brutal, barbaric and cruel persecution. It is Dot only inhuman was tbe fir~t country to put a stop to trad; and commercial exchanges witb but 8 shame on any civilised society. South Africa in July 1946, much before 10 a decent, democratic set up there the UN resolution on the subject can be no place for Apartbeid or Apartheid policy. Similarly. India has always e"tend~d moral, material and diplomatic support to the recognised h~ration movements Since most of the hon. Members have of South Africa. In J 967 India offered mentioned practically every a~pect of to the African National 'Congress the this I would not like to take much more 'facilities to open its' Asian MI:>sioD in time of the hOB. House.' Actually it is New Delhi. India has contributed to wrong to say that the bracks were against the "arioos UN Funds to help tbe victims the 'Asians or the Indians. In fact of Apanheid and to the London-based these are the hired hooligans who have Interna~ional Defence and Aid Fund. created all this trouble, and we believe ANC hominees are accepted for various that the army and the police of the training and educatioLal courses in . South African Government stood by India. There is also, as the Prime and did nothing really to prevent or to Minister has said, some other tbings stop tbis kind of hooliganism. we cannot say and .something we shoiJld not say. Ttl.s is what we are doing and Most of the hon. Members feel that we propose to continue in the future, this is the beginning of the end of apartheid. The people of the world We.have always supported the cause have realised that this policy is inhuman ',:of African people and w~ will continu.: and can Dot continue for a long, and, to do that. Sjmilarly~ we have asked therefore, must come to an end, and our missions in the fron~1ine States and the sooner it comes to an end, the better other friendly couDtries witb mission it is. And I am sure. in ending this in Pritoria tbat they provide us with inhuman policy, India's contribution. informati.n and try to help the people will' always be substantial and India there as far as possible. Actually one will not be second to any other countty of the friendly countries· mission bas in supporting effort to end this inhum~n tried to provide all t~e necessary infor policy. mation through their mission in Soutb Africa and we have been able to get I wOllld like to add is that India and detailed account about what happened all the non-aligned coun tries have alway. a, the Phoenix settlement. It has been suggested that there sbould be com stated in that information that . one <,f prebsive mandatory Sanctions against the most important thing which bas been South Africa. But unfortunately, some completely destroyed is the archives of of the western countries, and particular)y the Phoenix settlement. Actually lbis tbose countries who have got lot of is one thing wbj",h we will never be ablo investment in South Africa. They have to re-construct and we will not be able been usioS their veto power. This veto to get it back. We will remaio steadfast power has not beeD used judiciously. . . in our support to ,the African people as We hope that in future the veto power India bas aJwa,s donc. wi)) be used judiCiously so that it is utilised really for tbe purpose for whicb 011' ~. 'i1cf' to mention that it was created,· and not utilised 541 Dis. re : Racial Riots in SRAVANA 28, 1907 (SAKA) Af!ectiugthePeopJe 542 South Africa of Indiau Origin for the purpose for which it is morative Session of the UN to sometimes being· utilised by these redouble efforts to # secure the countries. liberation of tbe people of Souto Africa fCtPm tbe unmitigated I would now seek the permission of the crimes of apartheid; and House to move the Resolution which, in pusuancc of tbe wishes of the House, we 8. To caH upon the people of .. the have decided to move. Indian origin in South Africa - to continue their struggle in soli MR. CHAIRMAN: Please read out darity with their African brethren tbe Resolution. in their common cause against the apartbeid." SHRI KHURSHlO ALAM KHAN: I beg to move: MR. CHAIRMAN : The question is : uTbat the House unanimously re- t'Tbat the House unanimously solves- resolve- 1. To condemn the inhuman policy I. To condemn the inhuman policy of apartheid of the racist regime of apartheid of tbe racist regime of South Africa; of South Africa; 2. To denounce the attempts of the 2. To denounce the attempts of the South African Authorities to South African A utborities to divide tbe African, Asian and divide the African. Asian and other peoples of South Africa, other peoples of South Africa, strugggling for their fundamental rights; struggling for their fundamental rights; 3, To appeal to all the freedom 3. To appeal to all the freedom loving forces of the world to re ,loving forces of the world to main united in the struggle::: remain united. in the struggle against apartheid; against apartheid; 4. To call upon governments to im. 4. To call upon governments to im pose effective and comprehensive pose effective and comprehensive mandatory sanctions against mandatory sanctions against South Africa; South Africa; S. To call for tbe" uncon- 5. To call for the unconditional ditional release of the brave release of the brave patriot Nel patriot Nelson Mandela and other son Mandela and ot her freedom freedom fiahters; fighters; 6, To continue to extend all support 6. To continue to extend all support to the freedom struggle of the to the freedom struggle of the people South Africa and to espouse people of South Africa and to their cause in all relevant' inter espouse their cause in relevant national forums; international forums; 7 • To caH upon the forthcoming 7 • To call upon the forthcoming NAM Ministerial meeting at NAM Ministerial meeting at Luanda and the fortieth com Luanda and the fortieth comme- memorative session of the UN to 543 Dis. re : Racial Riuts in South AUGUST 19, 1985 Papers LIIid 544 A/rica Affecting the People 0/ 1m/ian Origin redouble efforts to secure the 19.35 hrs. liberation of the .. people of South Africa Cr.om the unmitigated PAPERS LAID ON THB TABLE crimes of apartheid; and 8. To call upon tho people of the [Engli8IJJ Indian origin in Soutb Africa to continue their struggle in solidarity THE MINIS fER OF STATE TN THE with their African brctbt:en in MINISTRY, OF PARLIAMENTARY tboir common cause against the AFFAIRS" (SHRI GHULAM NABI apartheid. AZAD): On Behalf or Sbri Janar Dhana Poojary, Sir, I beg to lay Th~ Resolution was adopted. 00 -tbe Table a copy each of Notification Nos, 2~9/1 S.Customs aod 260J8S-Cus SHRI KHURSHID ALAM KHAN· toms (Hindi aod English versions) pub- . I have to make ODe more appeal tha; Hshed in Gazette of India dated the .,..min Molaise who has been coo 19th August, 1985 together with an ~. to death cell, should be released explanatory memorandum regarding and there an • .,peal should be made t~ exemption to crude palm kero8 I oil when aU the couatries. imorted into India for manufacture of fatty alcohols from the basic customs THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE duty in excess of 30 per ceot ad .elorem MINJSTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY and from tbe whole of auxiliary 'duty of AFFAIRS (SHRI GHULA·M NABI custOms loviable thereon, under Section AZA·D): Sir, I place before ,be House 1 S9 of tho Customs Act. 1962. [Placed that the ,Half·an-hour discUS&ion which in Library. See. No. LT~1337/8S]. was to be caken up after this, should be postponed for tomorrow or day afler 19.36 brs. t9molT•• SOME HON~ MI!MB~RS: Yes, yes. The Lok Sabha Iht'n adjourned till Ele,en - . 0/ the. Clock on TuesdaJ. Au gU.!It 26, MR .. 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