In Praise of the SOB CEO In Praise of the SOB CEO by Marc Effron, President, The Talent Strategy Group

You have the opportunity to invest in one of two iden- crease of the S&P 500 index. Its success has made tical companies. At Company #1, the CEO is abusive, Ergen, its founder, one of the wealthiest people in narcissistic, rates low on interpersonal skills and person- the world with a fortune of more than $20B.1,2 al sensitivity. At Company #2, the CEO is team-orient- • Oracle’s co-President Mark Hurd was described ed, engaging, participative, open to criticism and treats by a former colleague in this way: “It’s not that he others with respect. It’s an easy investment decision, doesn’t have good instincts, but he was always so right? unpleasant. People aligned with his what, if not Before you answer, let’s review the profiles of a few his how.” A former HP employee (where Hurd had extremely successful CEOs: been CEO) created a website about him whose do- • Dish Networks CEO Charlie Ergen was described main name is too vulgar to print in this article. Just by a former company president as someone who two weeks after Hurd left HP due to differences “pound(ed) people into submission.” It’s reported with the Board, he was hired by Oracle and quick- that he publicly berates executives for arriving at ly promoted to co-President. It’s likely that he’ll company headquarters after 9AM. A former exec- become CEO of the Fortune 100, $40B company utive said that Ergen treated employees “like they when founder and CEO retires. were just cattle to be put into a pen.” Dish was twice voted the “meanest company in America” by • The late Steve Jobs founded and served as CEO of GlassDoor.com. The company’s stock price is up Apple. His best friend Jony Ive said of him, “…his 268% in the past five years, nearly 3 times the in- way to achieve catharsis is to hurt somebody . . .

INSIGHTS 1 Because of how very sensitive he is, he knows ex- selection consulting firm. They also analyzed the per- actly how to efficiently and effectively hurt some- formance data for the individuals who became CEO of one. And he does do that.”3 Jobs revolutionized, at each portfolio company. the most fundamental level, both how we interact This rare combination of detailed CEO capability with technology and how we give and receive in- and performance data across multiple company envi- formation. ronments allowed the researchers to directly assess the effects of individual characteristics and behaviors on No A**holes Please performance. Stanford professor Robert Sutton’s best-selling and The researchers identified a few key factors across exquisitely titled book The No Asshole Rule4 the 30 capabilities on which the potential CEOs were succinctly reflects a sentiment that many of assessed. One factor captured “people-related” capa- us share. We don’t want to work for leaders bilities (i.e. teamwork, listening skills, treats people like those described above and we don’t with respect, open to criticism). The other believe that their behaviors create long- In other words, if you factor captured “execution-relat- term success. If we had the opportunity, ed” capabilities (i.e. aggres- we wouldn’t promote or reward a leader were a CEO in a ven sive, fast mover, persistent, who behaved in those ways. proactive). ture capital owned Their analysis showed that To reinforce those views, we’ve built a CEO’s success was positively leadership models, training programs, company, the stronger - correlated with execution-relat- 360 assessments and performance ed capabilities including being management evaluations to devel- your people-oriented persistent, organized, proactive, op and reward more team-orient- setting high standards and holding ed, humanistic behaviors and to capabilities were, the people accountable. In short, better punish those who don’t display execution capabilities meant better fi- them. In short, we’ve worked worse you performed. nancial results. hard to establish the appro- Conversely, a CEO’s financial results priate “what/how” balance were not correlated with their people-re- in our organizations. lated capabilities. Their teamwork, listening So how much does a company bene- skills and similar capabilities did not impact fit when it shifts that balance more towards the performance. “how”? In other words, if we ask executives to spend But wait, it gets worse. The researchers less time on execution and more time on other behav- found a negative relationship between a CEO’s iors, how much more successful will that company be? people-related capabilities and their success in venture capital owned companies. In other words, if you were a What would you do if you found out it made no differ- CEO in a venture capital owned company, the stronger ence at all? your people-oriented capabilities were, the worse you The Uncomfortable Evidence performed. In a unique research project published in The Journal The Implications of Finance, researchers examined the capabilities of 316 While this is only one study, it assessed a unique data individuals who were CEO candidates for private equity set in a very comprehensive and unbiased way. The re- funded companies.5 They analyzed detailed qualitative searchers were trying to identify which CEO capabili- and quantitative assessments of each individual’s skills ties led to superior financial performance and they had and attributes using survey and interview data from a no preferred outcome for the results. They didn’t work

INSIGHTS 2 for a consulting firm that was trying to sell assessments research on the value of high performers vs. average or 360s. They didn’t need the data to support a book performers regularly concludes that the best talent they were writing about leadership. delivers 1.5x to 12x the value of their average breth- Their finding that not only do softer skills not affect ren. These higher results may more than compen- CEO performance but also that they can actually harm sate for the potentially lower performance of others. it, raises some important questions for anyone interest- 2. We underestimate the followership and engage- ed in executive and corporate success. It also suggests ment that execution-oriented behaviors create. that the billions spent on training people to improve Not everyone requires a sensitive, interpersonally softer skills might be partially redirected to selecting savvy, team-oriented leader. Some people want big leaders with more execution-oriented skills and/or try- opportunities to grow, big rewards for success and ing to build those capabilities in others. direct feedback when they under-deliver. They may But, But, But . . . consider these things essential to their success and Your likely reaction to that research is to start iteming not care if a less than pleasant leader delivers them. the reasons that its conclusions are flawed. Let’s ad- 3. It may matter for most, but not for all: Work would dress some of those. be both impossible and insufferable if no one in our What About the Collateral Damage? People refer to organizations demonstrated people-related capa- the “collateral damage” caused by leaders with low in- bilities. Fortunately, the vast majority of employees terpersonal capabilities or lament the “wake they leave wants to, or can be convinced to, play nicely with behind them.” Let’s examine that sentiment through a others. Perhaps it’s OK if those who are truly head- fact-based and emotionless lens. ed for the top don’t.

It’s quite likely that ’s Charlie Ergen has What about their company’s ability to attract great upset quite a few of his peers, direct reports and em- talent? ployees over the years. Just his suggestion that Dish em- W h y would you want to work ployees should stay in local hotels at their own expense for a company whose to ensure they make it to work when it snows likely CEO is widely recognized offended a majority of Dish employees. as being an SOB? You’d By any reasonable assess- have to ask the lead- ment, Mr. Ergen gen- ership teams at Dish, erates a wake behind Oracle and Apple. It’s him that would cap- interesting that during size a battleship. The higher performance delivered by Steve Jobs’ tenure at Dish Networks has Apple no news sto- thrived, however, as someone with very rough edges may ries mentioned that have the companies led Apple was having by the other leaders we more than compensate for the lower difficulty recruiting describe above. That sug- executives. To the gests the possibility that: engagement their behavior may create contrary, Apple 1. We overvalue the was then and is now one of damage caused by oc- in others. the most desirable companies in the world casionally hurt feelings. to work for. The higher performance de- livered by someone with very rough edg- What about those leadership models that say peo- es may more than compensate for the lower en- ple-oriented behaviors matter? gagement their behavior may create in others. The When consulting firms define a “successful leader model” to sell you 360s, behavior models or assess-

INSIGHTS 3 ments, “success” is typically defined as the ability to than five capabilities, ask your executive team to drive high engagement scores6 or be rated by others stack rank the entire list in order of the capabilities as a good manager.7 Those are interesting outcomes they most value. The top four or five are the ones to measure but they are not direct proxies for perfor- that truly matter. Even better, drop the antiquated mance. The most valuable aspect of The Journal of Fi- and bureaucratic competency model and use an nance study is that it directly evaluates how individual outcome-based Success Model instead to explain capabilities affect actual financial performance. the few outcomes that differentiate your best talent. There’s more to a company than financial perfor- • Shift Your Development Approach to build Exe- mance cution Capabilities: If execution-related capabili- Well, if you’re a typical investor, there’s actually not. ties are the ones that improve performance, audit If you want to include your development approach to assess whether other metrics in your you’re spending enough resources to build those personal definition results-generating capabilities. You should also try of performance (re- It’s interesting that during Steveto prove thatJobs’ the investmenttenure inat building Apple softer skills ally nice culture, has some relevance to the success of the orga- socially conscious, no news stories mentioned that Applenization. was having dif etc.), then you We always recom- have to decide ficulty recruiting executives. mend that how many cents a share of earn- ings you’re will- ing to sacrifice to achieve those non-performance related ca- pabilities. - when The Implications mak- While the research we cite is just one study, it sug- i n g gests some practical action for your company to con- t a l e n t deci- sider. sions you start with the science. That approach may lead you to discover • Clarify your Talent Philosophy: A standard ques- facts that make you uncomfortable or challenge your tion on our executive Talent Philosophy survey is beliefs, but you’ll hopefully emerge from that endeavor “How much ‘behavior credit’ does high perfor- as a more fact-based and intelligent leader. mance buy?” That question gets to the heart of the tradeoffs you’re willing to make between behav- The research that we highlight in this article chal- iors and performance. Most companies don’t have lenges much of today’s HR orthodoxy. We encourage a Talent Philosophy so there’s no executive team you to carefully consider its findings and whether they alignment on this and other similar and important should influence how your company defines and devel- questions. Read “What’s Your Talent Philosophy?” ops successful leaders. and use the mini-survey in the back to start this valuable discussion with your executives. 1 Caleb Hannan, Dish Network, The Meanest Company in America, Businessweek, January 2, 2013, http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/ • Focus Your Leadership Behavior Model: Many articles/2013-01-02/dish-network-the-meanest-company-in- leadership behavior models capture a long list of america “good citizen” behaviors rather than the few dif- 2 Justin Fox, Dish Networks “Seinfeld Strategy,” BloombergView, February 23, 2015, http://www.bloombergview.com/ ferentiating capabilities that actually drive perfor- articles/2015-02-23/dish-network-s-charlie-ergen-is-back-at-the- mance. If you have a leadership model with more satellite-tv-company

INSIGHTS 4 3 Walter Isaacson. Steve Jobs. : Simon & Schuster. 2011. 4 Sutton, Robert I. The No Asshole Rule: Building a civilized workplace and surviving one that isn’t. Hachette UK, 2007. 5 Kaplan, Steven N., Mark M. Klebanov, and Morten Sorensen. “Which CEO characteristics and abilities matter?.” The Journal of Finance 67, no. 3 (2012): 973-1007. 6 The State of the American Manager, Gallup, 2015, retrieved on July 12, 1015 at http://www.gallup.com/services/182216/state- american-manager-report.aspx 7 Adam Bryant, “’s Quest to Build a Better Boss,” New York Times, March 12, 2011, retrieved July 15, 2015 at http://www. nytimes.com/2011/03/13/business/13hire.html

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