Horseless Carriage Club of America Founded in Los Angeles November 14, 1937 A nonprofit corporation founded by and for automotive antiquarians and dedicated to the preservation of motor May 15 I lOth Annual Shell Hill Climb vehicles of ancient age and historical value, their acces Long Beach (Calif.) Model T Club sories, archives and romantic lore. May 21-22 I Olympia (Wash.) HCC Swap Meet Long Lake Fairgrounds OFFICERS May 21-22 I Bentley Drivers Club Meet Sanford C. Grover ------President Aurora, Ohio Ken Sorensen ------Vice President May 22 I Pittsburgh (Pa.) Spring Meet George Skopecek ______------Sec retary Riverside Park, Oakmont, Pennsylvania Joe Straub ______------Treasurer May 29 I Antiue Auto Races & Show Ernie Boyer ------Chairman of the Board Hutchinson, Kansas June 2-4 I Midwest 1 & 2 Cylinder Car Tour DIRECTORS AND TERMS OF OFFICE Wichita, Kansas June 11-12 I 12th Annual WOODland Auto Tour 1964-66 1965-67 1966-68 Grand Rapids (Mich.) Regional Group Dick Alexander Les Andrews Peter Bechtel June 18 I 8th Annual Mercer Hospital Antique Gordon Howard Bud Catlett E. R. Bourne Auto Show Clarence Kay Roy Davis Cecil Frye Trenton, N.J. Regional Group Mike Roberts Sandy Grover Ken Sorensen June 20-23 I 9th Biennial Reno Tour Joe Straub George Skopecek Les Thomas Nevada Regional Group June 23-26 I 13th Annual Texas Tour COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN Victoria (South) Texas Activities ------______Dick Alexander July 1-3 I 6th Annual Trail of Tears Tour Regional Groups ------______Les Andrews and Annual HCC Midwest Tour Pub lications ------______Mike Roberts Tulsa, Oklahoma Gazette ------Cedi Frye July 8-9-10 I One & Two Cylinder Car Tour Budget & Bylaws ------Gordon Howard Santa Rosa, California Safety ______------Bud Catlett July 15-16-17 I Annual Northwest Tour Anacortes, Washington HONORARY DIRECTORS July 15-16-17 I Annual Summer Tour Lester H. Barnett Harry B. Johnson Pittsburgh (Pa.) Regional Group Lind ley F. Bothwell Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz July 16-17 I Swap Meet Ernie Boyer W. Everett Miller Southern California Regional Group Ralph Cherry John B. Ogden July 23 I lOth Anniversary Costume Ball Floyd Clymer Herb Prentice San Francisco Regional Group Sam DeBolt Herbert Royston July 29-30-31 I Coast Tour to Santa Cruz Warwick Eastwood Dr. Geo. E. Shafer Central California Regional Group John G. Gillespie July 30-31 I Bay Area Tour & Field Meet Sonoma, California Executive Secretary: Truman 0 . W elch First Weekend in August I Harrah Swap Meet MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION Reno, Nevada August 14 I Swap Meet Active M embers must own a Horseless Carriage of year Santa Rosa, California 1915 or earlier; they have all privileges of the club . An August 20-211 Swap Meet & Car Show nual dues, $7.00 (foreign, $8.00), $6.00 of w hich is for a Fort Collins, Colorado one year subscription to the Horseless Carriage Gazette. August 17-18-19-20 I White Mountain Ramble Associate Members have all privil eges of th e club except Arizona Group (Tucson) holding a National office and voting . Annu al dues $5.00, August 2'1 I 12th Annual Swap Meet (foreign, $6-00) which includes a year Gazette subscription. Long Beach (Calif.) Model T Club September 8-9-10-11 1 HCCA National Tour Wives of Members may become either Active or Associate Yosemite Valley, California members, corresponding to their husband's membership. September 10 I Annual Fall Meet Only one copy of the Gazette, the Roster and other mailings Fairfield County (Conn.) Regional Group will be sent jointly to husband and wife. Annual dues, $2.00. September 23-24-25-26 1 Seigler Springs Tour Life Members are Active or Associate Members for life Santa Rosa (Calif.) Regional Group September 24-25 I Centralia-Chehalis Swap Meet upon payment of $100.00 dues. Southwest Washington Fairgrounds Regional Group Members, who must be National Active September 251 SoCal Annual Field Meet or Associate members, pay additional dues as established Santa Anita, California by the local clubs. 3
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OFFICIAL PUBLICATION OF THE Hors-eless Carriage Club of America
ED ITOR Fred Hayward Vol. 28, No. 3 FEATURE EDITOR Dick Philippi RESEARCH HISTORIAN Dr. Allred S. Lewerenz May-June, 1966 COVER PHOTOGRAPHER Mike Roberts TECHNICAL ED ITOR Vaun Rodgers FASHION EDITOR Helen Frye REGIONAL NEWS ED ITOR Sandy Grover The Horseless Carriage Gazette is ARTISTS Ward Kimball, Helen Frye, Carlos Diniz, published bimonthly by the Horseless Ben Sharpsteen, Ed Pranger, Peter Heick Carriage Club of America, Inc., 9031 E. Florence Avenue, Downey, Califor· CONTRIBUTING EDITORS Herb Royston, Ward Kimball, nia. Second class postage paid at Herb Prentice, Keith Marvin, Randall Gould Downey, California, and at additional Virginia Barnett, Fred Usher, Gary Welch mailing office. Subscription: $6.00 a DISPLAY ADVERTISING MANAGER: Herb Prentice year.
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Articles appearing in this publication National Comments ...... 4 express the individual opinions of the Announcements ...... 4 writers and are not necessarily the New Gazette Editor ···················--·- ········-···--····-·-············-·- · 6 opinions of the Editors or the HCCA. Written permission must be obtained Round the World in a Locomobile ...... 10 from the HCCA Board of Directors for Touring by Locomobile ------·····----·------· ··--········ 16 the reproduction of a ny material Fremont's Hawaiian Holiday ...... 18 appearing in the Horseless Carriage "They GOT a Horse" ...... 26 Gazette. Regional Group News ...... 28 Vacation Styles - 1915 ...... 30 National Tour Facts ...... 34 Engine and Chassis Drawings ...... 36 Address all correspondence to Asinine Alley ...... 39 HORSELESS CARRIAGE What's Its ...... 44 GAZETTE Restoration Hints ...... 46 9031 E. Florence Avenue Classified Advertising ...... 48 Arrington Square Service Directory ...... 50 Downey, California Current Restorations ...... 58 Memory Museum ...... 60 Family Album ...... 64
THE COVER PICTURE by Mike Roberts shows eleven cars parked on $1.00 a copy the Hanalei Valley overlook, Hawaii. See page 18.
October 9 I San Francisco Swap Meet Stonestown Shopping Center, San Francisco October 22-23 I lOth Annual Autumn Leaf Tour to NATIONAL TOUR Seigler's Springs Newport Beach & San Diego (Calif.) Regional ..... Groups ..... September 8-9-10-11 June 26·27 I Carnation Tour La Jolla (Calif.) Regional Group ..... July 17-18-19-20, 1967 I HCCA National Tour ..... Seattle-Tacoma, Washington ..... YOSEMITE Labor Day 1967 I Weekend in San Francisco Three Bridge Tour, Reliability Run DETAILS IN CENTER SPREAD 4
••• ANNOUNCEMENTS ••• NATIONAL CoMMENTs A new Regional Group has been established at Madison, Wisconsin. They plan to limit membership For the past 10 years our GAZETTE, which, I feel to owners of pre-1916 cars, and report a fast grow is second to none in publications of its class, has been ing interest in early-car-only tours in their area. under the very able guidance of Fred Hayward, our editor. Glidden Tour brochures and entry forms are available It has been my privilege to know Fred since 1950 fromHCCA headquarters. The VMCCA are sponsor when we met on the Los Angeles to San Francisco ing this year's event, to be held in Florida. HCCA National tour. Since that time he has worked long members are eligible, and the fact that this is the and hard in our Club's interest, having been GAZETTE first Glidden Revival in Florida should insure it's Editor since 1956. being a top event. It is with a great deal of regret that your Board of Directors is forced to accept Fred's resignation. Zip Codes must be added to all GAZETTE mailing Our search for his successor has been a difficult address. Please send yours to club headquarters: one, believe me, but we are extremely pleased to tell HCCA I 9031 Florence I Downey, California 1 you that Everett Miller, one of our Club's founders, 90240. will now be at the helm as your Horseless Carriage GAZETTE editor. AACA President for 1966 is Hyde Ballard of Malvern, I have known Everett and his wife Katherine since Pennsylvania. we joined this wonderful club of ours in 1950 and feel, personally, that we could not have made a bet John G. Perrin, the former Chief Engineer of the ter choice. Lozier Motor Car Co., died recently at Springfield, Besides being a Charter Member, Everett Miller Massachusetts. His story on the Lozier car appeared has served as President, Secretary-Treasurer and in the March-April1959 GAZETTE. Chairman of the Board, having been a Director for 15 years. David Gray, owner of numerous exotic early autos We, the National Board of Directors, believe that such as the S-61 Fiat that starred at many HCC we are all indeed fortunate to have an editor with meets twenty years ago, died recently at Santa such a tremendous background of Club history. Barbara, California. He was a descendant of John Everett was instrumental in introducing the first off Gray, an original partner in the Ford Motor Co. set printing and publishing of the GAZETTE. It was he who designed our Club emblem and, in our Club's infancy, when the founders were trying to come up OBITUARIES with a name for this small, interested group, Kath Jess F. Alexander Tulsa, Oklahoma erine Miller suggested The Horseless Carriage Club, Joseph Alkema Ogden, Utah which name was unanimously accepted and is one Walker Edwards Dallas,Texas of which we are all justly proud. Keith M. Ferguson La Jolla, California Ken Golli et Mehama, Oregon WELCOME ABOARD, EVERETT!!!! John R. Lyman Wilbraham, Massachusetts Sheldon Lytle Latrobe, Pennsylvania W. Z. Plyer Gastonia, North Carolina Max R. Prestridge El Paso, Texas R. W . Sinclair Kingaroy, Australia ~«z_s~~ Vernon D. Jarvis Decatur, Illinois KEN SORENSEN Lee E. Thorn Wichita, Kansas c_. Abraham Tunick Greenwich, Connecticut Vice President, Ray Van Colt Salt Lake City, Utah Horseless Carriage Club of America
1966 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR GAZETTE back issues YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK Septembe·r 8-9-10-11 $1.00 a copy e SEE CENTER SPREAD FOR DETAILS
THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 5 ANTIQUES, CLASSICS, SPECIAL INTEREST CARS More Than 150 On Display At
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See one of the nation's most com Open from 7 a.m. to sundown every day. plete collections of autos arranged Modern 66- unit motel, restaurant, in chronological order of develop picnic and overnight camping ment. Many of the examples grounds adjoining. included have great historical Located on U.S. Highway 6 and 34 significance. Thousands of 130 miles west of Lincoln, Neb other items also on display ... raska; 14 miles south of U.S.30; 50 miles north of U.S. 36. more than 30,000 in 22 buildings! Interstate 80 travelers take Pioneer Trace the course of man's progress Village exit between Grand Island and for the last 135 years. Visit world Kearney, then proceed south 12 miles famous Pioneer Village. on Nebraska 10. WRITf FOR FRff FOLDER ONE OF TOP 20 U.S. ATTRACTIONS Seattle-Tacoma in '67
The Seattle-Tacoma regional group is hard at work on plans for the 1967 HCCA National Tour to be held in their area. Tour Chair man Herb Schoenfeld says that this will b e an even better event than the past two spectacular National Tours held in the Northwest. Pictured is Vancouver, British Columbia, which will be a major stop on the tour route. PROMPT NATIONWIDE SERVICE ~O~ICF:
A free Gazette will be sent to any potential HCCA member, along with an illustrated fact sheet pictur ing club activities. Just send us the name and ad dress of anyone you think would be interested in the GAZETTE and Horseless Carriage Club activities. 6 New Gazette Editor
1917 Autocar Truck 1937 Austin 'Nippy' 1940 Bantam Convertible 1948 Continental Sedan 1948 Crosley Station Wagon 1949 Cros ley "Hot Shot" Roadster Wellington Everett Miller, cofounder of the 1930 DeSoto Roadster Horseless Carriage Club and President in 1942, is 1926 Dodge Business Coupe to become GAZETTE editor effective with the next 1935 Dodge Pickup issue. Well known to enthusiasts around the world 1904 Eldredge Runabout for his vast collection of automotive literature, he 1918 Elgin Touring 1905 Ford Runabout has a wide knowledge of early autos and their 1951 Frazer Sedan owners. He began collecting auto material as a 1924 Graham Brothers Fire Truck schoolboy, and has continued collecting thru years 1925 Hupmobile Roadster of design work for such firms as the Murphy Body 1940 Studebaker Sedan Co. in Pasadena, California, Harry Miller's race car 1959 Volga Sedan shops where he made the first drawings for what became the front-drive Cord, the G.M. design center Please contact: Bud Cat'lett, under Harley J. Earl, and Packard during the great Harrah's Automobile Collection, days of the 20's. It is expected that the GAZETTE Post Office Box 10, Reno, Nevada format will remain much the same for the foresee for pictures, price and information. able future; the rest of the staff will remain the same for the present.
In leaving the Editorship of the GAZETTE, I want t HCCA NATIONAL TOUR to thank the multitude of persons who have helped so generously the past ten years. In particular, Dick Philippi, Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz, Herb Prentice and SEPTEMBER Ward Kimball have contributed work and ideas in a volume and a quality that have made the GA YOSEMITE 8-9-10-11 NATIONAL PARK ZETTE what it is. Mike Roberts, our cover photo grapher and general technical advisor; Stu Goldth· .. waite our printer (Litho-Color Company, Tustin); and Ken Shamory our typographer, have also con tributed importantly. To all these, and the dozens more who have helped, I give my sincere thanks. UPHOLSTERY MATERIALS -FRED HAYWARD and TOPPING r------, for the antique car and at reasonable prices. Mohairs, broadcloths, Bedfords Ford check and BASKET CASES striped cloths. Need many parts (including frames), information literature, Send small sample of what you need for free and advice to restore these "basket cases". samples of what we have for your car. Free 1912 COLUMB IA CAVALIER "How to do it booklets" available. 19 13 PIERCE-ARROW 66 !SOME MODEL 48 IT EMS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE )
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Men's sizes: 36-46, Regular & Long. The Type-1 3 Bugatti which French member Girod-Eymery located in Russia has now been disassembled, and found to be generally ex Ladies' sizes: 32-44, Regular. cellent. These photos show the condition of the body, chassis and Larger or smaller sizes must be specially made; allow extra time. engine while under restoration in the workshop of the Museon di Rodo at Uzes in the south of France. The rear of the frame bears some resemblance to the later Bugatti practice but the engine appears PRICE- $12.95 each. to be the most advanced feature of the car. This model was Bu gatti's first under his own name, and was built from 1911 - 1 3. A similar car is now rumored to be stored in an unrevealed location in Argentina! CAPS- $3.95 each, matching material. Men's: Hat Size. Ladies': One size (elastic back)
Enclose check or money order with order. Sh ipment via P.P. Prepaid in USA. 1966 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR SPEC IAL LETTERING (Embroidery). Write us for prices cover ing your needs on special back lettering on dusters or for YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK depicting make of car, etc. Donovan INDUSTRIES September 8-9-10-11 P.O. BOX 10184 - DALLAS 7, TEXAS Round the Worl CONTR IBUT ED BY NELSON HOLMWOOD
"Mrs. Harriet Clark Fisher started on her world journey, July 19, 1909. It ended on August 16, I 91 o, making her tour a year and one month lacking three days. A Oak Bungalow at Burdwan, Bengal, India. One of the Government "Mrs. Fisher's party included Mr. Harold Fisher rest houses. Brooks, a nephew, who has a responsible position in the management of her anvil works, and who drove the car; Albert Bachellor, cook, secretary, and man of all work, and Maria, Italian maid. "'I had everything built to order with a view to economy of space and weight, at the same time securing all the comfort and convenience possible,' said Mrs. Fisher in describing her equipment. 'I had a celebrated tent maker of Paris construct my tent, and when I called for it, it was all folded and ready for delivery, the maker assuring me that every thing was all right. I was not satisfied with buying a tent that way and told him I wanted to see the tent set up and to understand its workings. He said this could not be done except in the street and if he attempted that the gendarme would arrest him. I sent my interpreter to the gendarme, who good naturedly consented to allow the inspection, and the tent was spread in the Place V en dome, Paris, attracting Waiting for Ferry, Kalyan, India. The tires are covered to protect a large crowd and several newspaper photographers.' them from the sun. "' vVe carried a tent,' said Mrs. Fisher, in describing her equipment, 'several cooking utensils, a large tea basket full of china, and two trunks. We roughed it all along the roads, sending ahead by express, trunks containing clothing necessary for our appearance at social functions. " 'Our tank contained forty-two gallons of gasolene and we had an extra tank under the tonneau, which allowed us to cover 375 miles easily. We had to buy our gasolene and send it ahead to points nearest our stopping places, and frequently go after our supplies in bullock carts. " 'We left New York with eight tires, four on the machine and four extra ones,. and strange to say they lasted us throughout our journey until we reached our own country. Then we used up twelve more tires, making twenty all told.' "Mrs. Fisher was enthusiastic over the fine roads they found in India, where they drove over a stretch Who has the right of way? Near Kandy, Ceylon. of road I zoo miles long and as level as a floor.
THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 ·n a Locomobile
FROM THE LOCOMOBILE .BOOK, 1911
" 'In Japan the roads were perfect,' she said, 'and in both countries I was given every assistance. In India I was escorted for miles into the country, and, as I went to Japan with the Gaekwar of Baroda and his party, I was treated as a guest of the Mikado, A Ferry in Ceylon. whose emissaries escorted me and furnished me with important maps.' "Mrs. Fisher was enthusiastic in her praise of her Locomobile. " 'Just to think,' she said, ' we made the trip around the world, over all so rts of roads, across deserts of hot sand, down precipitous mountain sides and through rivers, without mishap more se rious than blowing out of tires, and breaking of the pet cock on the oil tank. Our greatest annoyances occurred after our return to our own country. I don't believe that any other car could ha ,. ;:; stood a stronger test, and I want Mr. Brooks to have all the credit for taking the car over its remarkable journey, for he certainly used rare judgment in handling the machine and getting us out of uncomfortable situations. "'The only assistance we had to have was in crossing the Tapi River, in Southern India. The Tapi is a broad, shallow river, with sandy bottom
too shallow to require a bridge, and yet too deep for Crossing the Fu ji Rapids, Japan. (Taken in the rain.l us to get through with our own power. As was the case everywhere we traveled, the government gave us every possible assistance, and you may be sure we were a picturesque group hitched to sixteen pairs of oxen and escorted by a dozen native policemen, with their hea ds bound up in great white turbans and splashing bare legged through the water on either side of us. Our luggage and equipment followed us on ox carts, while a curious crowd watched us from the banks, many of the boys following into the water knee deep.' "Mrs. Fisher has resumed the active management of her factory in Trenton, and it was there in her office, overlooking the Delaware, that the Herald reporter found her taking up the threads of business where she left off a year ago. She is proud of her shop and of her men, and takes pleasure in showing one through the 'plant and discussing improvements. On the river front of the shop is a flourishing cornfield, and it is on this ground that she hopes to build
•Continued on nex t page A Ca mp in the Hakone Mountains, Japan. (Taken just after daybreak.! 12
homes for all her men and their families. Romping about the place was her pet Boston bull terrier, Honk-Honk, who made the trip around the world with his mistress. "' Oh, you must come up to the house and see Billikens,' she said, and into the very machine in which the world tour was made, the big, gray Locomobile, with its paint rubbed off, its sides scratched and its leather parts worn to a frazzle, the reporter was whisked, and the way in which the Fisher home was reached showed that the car had lost none of its speed or power by its twenty-thousand-mile run. "Billikens is a minute monkey who became a part of Mrs. Fisher's entourage at Ceylon, and immediately became the playmate of Honk-Honk, the Boston bull terrier. "The Fisher home is now a museum of travel
Round the world in a Locomobile. Crossing Hamana Bay, Japan, in souvenirs and of American Beauty roses, her favorite a ferry consisting of two sail boats lashed together. flower. The most striking souvenir is a collection of miniature figures representing all the servants of an Indian household, and trades people. These were given to her at a dinner in Calcutta. These remark able little figures are fashioned of native clay, perfect in detail, natural in pose, and draped in most realistic style by the wife of their creator, who is the only artist of his kind in Calcutta. "'Now that I am back home again,' said Mrs. Fisher, 'I have to look hard at these souvenirs in order to realize that the whole thing has not been a dream. My tour was like a journey through fairyland. I seem to bear a charmed life. Time and again, quite unknown to us, we were on the brink of disaster, but always something interposed between us and what seemed, at least, injury and possible death.
In the sage brush. Nevada, U.S.A. "'Once, in Japan, after we had left At ami and gone through the famous pass outside the city, and were proceeding along the narrow winding road opposite Hakone mountain, something within prompted me to say "stop". We got out of the car and went forward a few feet to find that the bridge had been entirely destroyed by fire and that foot travelers had laid a few bamboo poles and rubbish across the place to enable them to pass. Had we not stopped at the instant I shouted, we would have plunged over a precipice several hundred feet below to instant death. It was impossible for us to turn back, so we pitched our tent and made ourselves as comfortable as we could on this narrow mountain road, while the men went back for assistance. The government at once sent a small army of laborers and built a new bridge for us. Such - courtesies were extended to us on every hand, the Where the party stayed at Lucin, Utah. Japanese government lending me valuable maps and
THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 13 guide books which I am under an oath to return. reached the Ganges, opposite the palace, Mrs. Fisher "• Another thrilling experience was that of crossing was carried from the coach in a • dandy' by four the Fuji river in Japan. The big Locomobile was liveried servants, and boarded the private yacht of the run onto a raft built of two boats lashed together ruler and was ferried across to the marble landing and covered with boards. On this we embarked and leading up to the palace. The landing and steps were were in tow of a tugboat, when the bamboo poles covered with red velvet, and during Mrs. Fisher's holding the tow line parted and the raft drifted entire visit to the potentate her feet were not permitted to touch the earth. helplessly upon the rocks in the middle of the river. "In his palace she met many of the Indian and The machine could not be gotten off, so a pontoon British notables and on the occasion of a state dinner bridge was built in sections out to the raft and the car Mrs. Fisher was decorated by His Highness, who run off onto the bridge. Then another section ofbridges placed about her neck a necklace of spun gold and red was built and the car transferred, until they finally silk, red and gold being the colors of her host. landed us on the opposite shore after many hours of "Mrs. Fisher was also entertained for several days labor and anxiety. by the very wealthy merchant, Matilal Nehru and his "• But don't think that the tour was one succession wife, in their wonderful palace, Anand Bhawan, at of narrow escapes. Far from it. It was rather one Allahabad, India. Mrs. Clark Fisher is the only continuous and splendid reception, intermingled with white woman who ever slept in this beautiful palace.'' amusing incidents from the time I crossed the Turkish border until I left the shores of Japan. It was more the tour of a royal personage than that of a simple American woman traveling for her health .. "• When I left the United States my first objective point was Contrexville, France, where I had planned to take the cure. My few weeks' stay there, where I met many old friends and acquaintances of Europe, with daily automobile trips 'round about and short tours through the country, soon restored me to health. My triumphs began here where my car won the best cup and two medals in an automobile tournament. From here I went to beautiful Lake Como, where I have my villa and keep my American built yacht. Again my good fairy looked after me, for in the annual regatta my yacht, the Carlotta, won the Marchesa Trotti Cup for speed and for being the best decorated yacht on the lake. After this, everywhere I traveled was among and over flowers. "• I left Italy when the peach trees were in blossom, and toured Japan with the petals of cherry blossoms strewing our path. I have spent many summers at my Italian villa (The Villa Carlotta), and have met and entertained there many notable persons from all over the world. It was at Como that I met His Highness the Maharajah Bahadur of Benares, who so royally entertained me in India, and through him met His Highness the Gaekwar of Baroda and his interesting family, who invited me to spend several weeks at their palace.'
"vVhen her party reached the outposts of the province ruled by Sir Prabnu Narayan Singh, His Highness sent the royal coach, in charge of his private Nelson Ho lmwood of Laguna Beach, California, who contributed this article from the 1911 Locomobile Book is pictured here at the wheel secretary, with two coachmen, two footmen, and two of his 1 908 Locomobile which he and his wife Edna drove across the outrunners to meet Mrs. Fisher. When the party USA to the Glidden Tour in 1 956. 14 •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• • i Flori~ a's Original~ • • • More than 70 beautifully restored Antique and Classic • • automobiles are displayed in a "Gay Nineties" setting. • • • • Rare and unusual music boxes are played • • for you in a show you'll always remember. •e • • • EARLY CYCLES • BLACKSMITH SHOP • LIVERY STABLE • • • • • • •3 • • • • • • • • •e 5500 NORTH TAM IAMI TRAIL • SARASOTA, FLORIDA •e •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• • HCCA NATIONAL TOUR WHAT SEPTEMBER YOSEMITE 8-9-10-11 NATIONAL PARK
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At Mission San Luis Rey four miles inland from Oceanside. AI one of the Hot Springs inland from Oceanside, possibly Warner's, Muriella or Elsinore.
~These four snapshots appe,ar to have been taken on a motor trip into the back country east of Oceanside, California. The car is a 1909 Locomobile Model 40 Baby Tonneau. By the fairly new ap pearance of the car and the clothing of the driver, the trip might have been made in the fall of 1909.
This view may have been taken near Palomar Mountain. Early type Another snapshot at the Hot Springs. of California license plate is'visible.
... The same 1909 Locomobile stuck in a wash. This view was evi ... dentely taken some time after the Mission San Luis Rey trip, as an auxiliary hand operated oil pump has been added outside of the driver's seat.
These three pictures show a 1908 Locomobile, Model H. No infor- • mat ion on the location of the ferry boat "Joseph Kellogg" but .,. clues such as the river and the signs above the stairs which warn that passengers with "calked shoes" are not allowed on the upper deck, plus the type of scenery in the other pictures suggest that this may have been in the Pacific Northwest.
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P hrases such as, "What's the action?" "Weah FREMONT BCC HOSTS you pahk yo' cah - You go Kokee?" "Look, My Mother, The Car." "You mean you gained 15 pounds just five days on the ship?" will always bring a smile of remembrance to those who participated in the Fremont (California) HCC's "Hawaiian Holi day." Hawaiian Although the actual tour dates were from March 16th (departure of Lurline from San Francisco) or March 21st (PanAro jet departure) through March 31st, many departed from the mainland via plane earlier than this. Seventy-four persons with 26 cars made the trip, including one who bought a Ford welcome while the Hotel crew joined in with drum for the trip, not caring to chance losing either of and conch shells. his two Pride and Joys on the ocean voyage. Tour Sunday we made a 62 mile trip, touring easterly mileage was 375, not counting a good bit more for and northerly to the end of the road at Ke'e Beach, local trips. famous for the Wet & Dry Caves. Then a return to Monday, March 21st the Lurline arrived at Hono Hanalei Plantation for lunch. This hotel is located lulu. Thirty-three members were on board, various at the point on which Hanalei Bay meets the blue San Francisco and Bay Area members having Pacific Ocean, and along this beach and nearby a proven themselves prize winning entertainers at host of films, including South Pacific, were made. the ship's talent show. The ship was met by early The scenery of beaches, lush fields and towering arrivals in their antique cars, and shortly after, the Mt. Waialeale (world's wettest spot) is a beautiful rest of the cars were out of the ship's hold and on sight. the dock. Later that afternoon the rest of the Monday, March 28th we were off on a 98 mile tourists arrived by PanAro Clipper. trip to the "Biggest Little City" on the island, Tuesday, a full-circle tour of the island of Oahu Hanapepe, and as the local radio station announced totaled 116 miles. A beautiful day's drive, ending our route and arrival times, we had most of the with a stop at Wheeler Air Force Base, thanks to Islanders waving and grinning at us. We visited an Col. Frank Hay whose interest in the cars enabled elementary school in Kaumakani and both ele drivers to miss the afternoon freeway rush hour. mentary and high schools at Waimea, at their re Wednesday a 40 mile Mt. Tantalus tour took us quest. Students were let out of class to see our to National Memorial Cemetary in Punchbowl vehicles. And at our lunch stop, a group of little Crater, to Robert Louis Stevenson's hut at the pre-school charmers (ages 3 and 4) whose teacher Salvation Army's famous Waioli Tea Room, and had brought them down, welcomed us with a few on to Pali Lookout where the first Hawaiian rain choral selections. Lunch, then on to Kokee (Hawai wet the HCC party. Over the hill to Waimanalo, ian for "canyon" we were told, but it was all up). past Rabbit Island, into Sea Life Park, past Maka The view from the top was enchanting, when the puu Point, the Blowhole, Hanauma Bay, Diamond clouds opened up - those who made the top were Head and then back to the W aikiki Beach area. above the clouds, the planned goal being Waimea The Luau that night at Hawaiian Village waR Canyon Park Lookout, at least seven miles below tasted, eaten or ignored by the automobilists, but the top. Sweet Leilani and her dancing friends who enter Kauaians are so hospitable - we were always tained were given a strong vote of approval. ("Keep being asked by businessmen in little towns to· 9top your eyes on the EYEBROWS??" Aw, come on, for soft drinks- they wanted so much to "donate" Doc!) (as they put it) something to us in return for bring Thursday morning the cars were put on a barge ing our cars to them! to be shipped to the "Garden Island" of Kauai, Tuesday, tourers walked to charter boats for the most westerly of the Hawaiian chain. This day and ride up Wailua River to the aweinspiring Fern the next day gave time for a trip to the beach out Grotto, then back to our antiques and a short drive side the hotel; an Aloha banquet ended the fes past Menehune Pond, the first Sugar Mill, and to tivities at Honolulu. Waiohi on the south coast for lunch. A 40 mile trip Saturday, a half hour plane flight and we arrived this day. at Lihue, the "city" on Kauai, and immediately Wednesday, 25 cars were put back on barges to held the much advertised Challange Race. Each Oahu. Two planes left the airport, and back to the busload urged their driver onward to Nawiliwili Ilikai Hotel at Honolulu. Harbor, where our automobiles were found all safely Thursday, 19 cars were loaded on the Lurline under cover. Soon we were on our way back thru for return to San Francisco, the balance going on Lihue to our Coco Palms Hotel. Here we were a cargo carrier to Southern California. Two airplane given the ROYAL welcome . . . Mary Wong and flights late that night took us back to the Main John Kauo gave us a lei greeting, and Mary had land, and the Tour Chairman was ''one happy fella" made a sign of over 1,000 vanda orchids bidding us when all people and cars landed back home safely!
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e BY LAURA LEE MOZZETTI
e PHOTOS BY MIKE ROBERTS
THE COVER PICTURE by Mike Roberts shows eleven cars parked on the Hanalei Valley overlook. Mike Roberts took to the air for this photo, insufficient elevation being available from the ground.
Taking the cover photo, Mike Roberts in a helicopter at treetop level. Photo by Scherry Harrah.
Lurline with HCC members aboard arrives off Diamond Head. Mike Roberts photo from helicopter. ~
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On arrival by PanAm at Honolulu's airport. That's a Pope Hartford hidden behind the crowd. 20
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Wakiki Hula girl and Bill Harrah's Pope Hartford.
Rain! - Get that top up quick!
Fern Grotto.
Windward coast of Oahu.
Hawaiian cranking style demonstrated.
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From the Punchbowl, looking toward Wakiki and Diamond Head.
Mike and Ellen Roberts in their 1906 Stevens-Duryea receive a Merl and Joy Ledford of San Diego and their Peerless. Hawaiian welcome. Mike, with nearly a hundred previous trips to the Islands, helped organize the HCC excursion. 22
At Nuuanu Pali.
Menehune fish ponds on Kauai. Thru a banana plantation.
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Cars come off the barge at Nawiliwili on Kauai after the voyage Cars parked at Coco Palms, our home on Kauai. from Oahu.
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Yosemite Valley and other points of interest such as Tuolumme Meadows, Glacier Point and the Big Trees. Plus Evening Entertain ment.
For information write: BudCatlett, Tour Chairman, P.O.BoxlO,Reno,Nevada 0 24
Lumahai Beac h and the Na Pali cliffs.
End of the road on Kauai.
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Hanalei Valley was a beautiful rest stop.
Valley of Hanalei. Waimea Canyon lookout point.
The Harrahs with their Pope Hartford pose for a PanAm publicity shot.
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Herb Huber's Patterson goes the Lurline for the trip 26
This fascinating series of photos comes from member Herb Schoenfeld of Mercer Island, Washington. One of his em ployees, Marguerite Jones, was on this trip in 1911, en route from Dubuque, Iowa to Portage, Wisconsin . Stopping They GOT a horse to visit friends near Packwaukee, the Rambler broke down. They spent two weeks in a Packwaukee hotel while the car was being repaired.
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SECOND ANNUAL BEND SWAP MEET AND CAB SHOW
AUGUST 5th and 6th,1966 WOOSTER HIGH SCHOOL- RENO, NEVADA SPONSORED BY HARRAH'S AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION CAR SHOW SWAP MEET SCHEDULE OF EVENTS SCHEDULE DF EVENTS Saturday -August 6,1966 Friday &Saturday- August 5th &6th 8:00A.M. -4:30 P.M. Registration-- Registration 8:00AM ro 10:00 AM. Entrants may also register on Friday, August Scares at 7:00 AM 5th from 10:00 AM co 4:30 PM at the Winton House Car in the Swap Meet Area. Registration will close PROMPTLY at iO:OO AM Saturday. To facilitate planning, a fee of $1.00 will be charged all Swagpers cmrams pre-registering by mail for each car entered. Entry muse Must register and be assigned to an area on a first come first served be postmarked no later than Midnight, Friday July 28, 1966. All has is. subscquem Registration Fees will be $5.00. - All fees to be applied ro cleaning of grounds. To facilitate planning A fee of Sl.OO will he charged swappers pre-registering by mail for Car Shaw-- each space ( 10'x25'). Entry must be postmarked no Iacer than Mid 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM. night, July 2H, 1966. All subsequent Registration Fees will be 55.00 Judging will begin Saturday at 10:00 AM. - All fees to be applied to cleaning of grounds. Cars will be judged in the following categories: ANTIQUE: All cars 1915 and earlier. Swapping Material VINTAGE 1916 thru 1924: All cars 1916 thru 1924. \X' ill be limited ro pares, cars, and related items - no household VINTAGE 1925 chru 1933: All cars, not classics, 1925 thru 1933. items or items. not related to old cars will be permitted. VINTAGE 1934 chru 1942: All cars, not classics, 1934 chru 1942 . CLASSIC: All cars rewgnized as classics by the Classic Car Club. CONTEMPORARY-SPECIAL INTEREST: All cars 1943 through GENERAL INFORMATION the present day but having trU<.: special interest. Cars entered in this class will be subject to strict entry committee approval. Security Officers Award Ceremonies \Xi ill be present on grounds 2-i hours per day. \X1ill begin at 3:30 PM. 1st and 2nd Place Trophies will be awarded in all six· judging categories. Troph1es will also be awarded for the following: Bulletin Boards \X' ill be available for posting items "for sale" and "wamed". Car Coming Longest Distance. Best of Show. Cars Far Sale Special Swapper's Award. \l(iill be provided a special area. Cars for sale are invited. Dash Plaques to all Entrants. Refreshment Stands Including an operating 1915 Popcorn \l(iagon, will be on the prem Car Shaw Area ises as well as an information booth, telephone booths and ocher \X1ill be open to car dubs for their own meets on Sunday, August facilities for the wmforr and conveniem:e of parricipams and 7, 1966. spectators. Car Shaw Send Applications Open to all members of all car dubs and open to all cars from And requests for information coRA Y JESCH, P.O. Box 10, RENO, Amiques through cars of 1942 vintage - Later cars of interest NEVADA. Send $1.00 for each swap space desired. Send $1.00 for accepted on application and approval by Entry Committee. each car cmered. State Year, Make, Model, Body Style, and number of cylinders. A recent photo of car must accompany application. 28 \._f:\(
/ '~;~~.'"~~~~~-"~'=;;~~~::::: TRENTON, N.J., REGIONAL GROUP correspondent Mal colm E. Minton, writes of his club's active schedule of events the latter half of 1965. July saw no less than five major outings, including the Independence Day Holiday parade, a joint trek with the North CENTRAL CALIFORNIA REGIONAL GROUP at Fresno,. Shore Antique Auto Club of Point Pleasant, N.J.; experienced a very successful swap meet (their 7th a shopping center display in Fairless Hills; a scaven annual) held in Madera at the Fairgrounds, and ger run and picnic which wound up at activity chair attended by an estimated 1,000 persons with about man Frank Rue's place; and finishing up the month 60 or so vendors doing a good bit of trading. A size with an overnight run to historic Gettysburg, Pa., able delegation of Southern California members were covering approximately 400 miles round trip. From present - including four past National Presidents a dozen to nearly 40 cars found their way in each of and two former National directors. People from these events. In August the club had an overnight Nevada and Northern California were in strong num run to Wilmington, Delaware, where the Longwood bers too. Coming the farthest was Wally Johnson of Gardens were visited, plus making a stop at the T. Friend, Nebraska, member of the Omaha Regional Clarence Marshall Museum of Steam Cars in York Group. lyn, Del. In November the "Frost Bite Run" took a shivering group to Bowman's Hill Park on the beau NEVADA REGIONAL GROUP'S Steering Column re tiful Delaware River at Washington's Crossing, Pa. ports a busy schedule of events. All roads will lead The year concluded with the annual Christmas party to the 9th Biennial Reno Tour, come June 20-23. dinner dance at the historic Yardville, N.J. tavern. The attractive brochures are out to all owners of The club's president, Howard Carr, was reelected to 1915 and older antique autos (active HCCA mem a second term. bers) and the mad rush to sign up is on. Later in the summer. August 5 and 6, the 2nd annual Reno Swap SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA REGIONAL GROUP began its Meet and Car Show will be held at Wooster High tour season with a shakedown to Malibu, taking the School, Reno, sponsored by Harrah's Automobile group from Pacific Palisades thence over 50 miles of Collection. Applications and requests for informa Malibu mountain roads and a picnic at Tapia Park. tion on that event should be addressed to Ray Jesch, James Zordich was in charge of plans. The big P.O. Box 10, Reno, Nevada. HCCSC annual three-day tour this year was held in Death Valley April 22-24, with Howard Campbell as ARIZONA REGIONAL GROUP, Tucson, had a good tour chairman. Highlights of the trip included stops opening event for the year March 20th when a pot at Scotty's Castle, driving through Wildrose Canyon luck picnic and white elephant auction took place at with an overnight stop at Stove Pipe Wells Hotel. Palo Verde Camp near old Tucson. All profits made The tour crossed over to Beatty, Nevada, thence to on the auction were turned over to the club treasury. Rhyolite. The last leg of the journey included Fur The Arizona Group is planning a major tour in nace Creek Ranch, Bad Water (279 feet below sea August, called the White Mountain Tour, located in level) and out the Valley over Jubilee Pass, then the vicinity of the 1964 Coronado Trail tour. home via Highway 91. KANSAS CITY REGIONAL GROUP'S "Cranker" reports SEATTLE-TACOMA REGIONAL GROUP has been busy the 1966 Midwest National Tour will be held in July, for nearly a year now preparing for the 1967 National sponsored by the Tulsa, Oklahoma Regional in con Tour. Under the guidance of Herb Schoenfeld, tour junction with their annual Trail of Tears Tour. chairman, much groundwork has been laid for what the club's "Evergreen Gas-ette" reports will be a VALLEY OF THE SUN REGIONAL GROUP, Phoenix, Ari tour that'll make everyone who participates glad he zona, has just concluded a mighty successful antique came. The Sheraton Motor Inn will be tour head auto show, boasting sixty beautifully restored cars, quarters in Seattle and the Bayshore Inn as head displayed at the Chris-Town Shopping Showplace quarters in Vancouver, B.C. National Tour Coordi for a week-long stand. Chairman of the event was nator will be HCCA Director Bud Catlett who will activities chairman Bob Nelson. Drawing particular be liaison man between the S-T Regional and the attention was Joe Gest's little 1902 French Prunel National Board. Already the tour has 38 cars signed as well as his high wheeled Holsman. Charles Black's up. Tour dates are July 17-20, 1967. 7,000 lb. Peerless also competed for admirers.
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We're on our way to the great Pomona SWAP MEET July 16-17 Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona Shade - Food - Refreshments - Parking HoRsELEss CARRIAGE (tuB Of SOliTHERN CALIFORNIA
0 Jlarry Pul/er rBox 526 Trenton, N.J. will once again cooperate with the Mercer Hospital in sponsoring the 8th annual An J:.a CreJcenta tique Auto Show at the Field Artillery Grounds at Trenton. Date for the event is June 18th. Cali/ornia EMBLEMS Valley of the Sun (Phoenix, Arizona) members Bob bought - sold traded Bitler and Barbara Jacobs were married recently in Made to order. an authentic 1912 wedding. Barbara wore a 1912 MASCOTS, Wedding dress made of ecru colored silk with lace MOTOR METERS neck and sleeves decorated with half shell pearls. Matron of honor and best man, Verlyn and Harvey 200 Miniature Emblems Listed - 372 Racing Car Emblems Listed Ross, were also dressed in appropriate costume. An interesting comparison can be made between the • photo of Bob and Barbara, and the old photo of HCCA NATIONAL TOUR Bob's parents wedding in 1911. The 1912 theme will soon be continued in Phoenix events when the SEPTEMBER 8-9-10-11 Bitlers appear in their 1912 Chalmers, now under restoration. YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK
A new Regional Group has been established at Madison, Wisconsin. They plan to limit membership to owners of pre-1916 cars, and report a fast grow ing interest in early car-only tours in their area.
Santa Clara Valley (California) had 3.8 cars turn out for their annual Blossom Tour. A full story on this event will appear in the next GAZETTE.
Arizona Regional Group at Tucson plan another of their famed driving tours this summer. The "White Mountain Ramble" will be held August 17-18-19-20 and will take in about 400 miles of serious driving over mountain roads through some of the West's greatest scenery. The tour is limited to 30 cars in top condition; tour costs will be minimal. Details · from Tour Chairman Paul Eoff, 5236 E. 20th St., Glidden Tour brochures and entry forms are available Tucson, Arizona. from HCCA headuarter. The VMCCA are sponsor ing this year's event, to be held in Florida. HCCA Zip Codes must be added to all GAZETTE mailing members are eligible, and the fact that this is the address. Please send yours to club headquarters: first Glidden Revival in Florida should insure it'll HCCA I 9031 Florence I Downey, California I being a top event. 90240. 30
THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 31 VACATION STYLES - 1915
By Helen Frye
T'he new look of 1915 was firmly entrenched by laces, batiste, voile, wash silks and crepe-de-chine midsummer; the draped, puffed and slit skirts of were favored for dresses and blouses. A renewed 1914 were no longer to be found in the pattern interest in separate skirts and blouses flared. books. To quote PICTORIAL REVIEW for July, 1915, Hats were quite moderate in size if brimmed and "As the season advances, the short wide skirt is be trimmed with ribbon or flowers. Most popular ing accepted more and more, even by conservative were small rather high turbans with compact trim women. At first it seemed such a radical innovation mings of flowers, ribbon folds or an occasional light that women who do not like extreme styles refused feather fancy. One innovation for that year was a to wear the abbreviated models which, in some sort of shepherdess hat tipped up in the back with cases, reached little lower than the shoe tops. But gay flowers on top and ribbons under the brim. it became apparent that the full skirts when long Answering a reader inquiry for "something more be have a pronounced tendency to make the wearer coming than the tie under the chin motor bonnet" look old, and gradually the shorter models came a taffeta Tam O'Shanter was suggested. We show into vogue. To look stylish, a full skirt should escape two versions from a 1915 copy of WoMAN's WoRLD the ground by at least three inches, and young MAGAZINE. slender women wear their skirts from four to six There was a budding interest in styles for the inches ab6ve the ground." These skirts achieved young girl as a separate group emphasizing a jaunty width with plaits; plaited or gathered flounces at youthfulness, rather than just shorter versions of tached to hip yokes (which were exceedingly pop their mothers' fashions. Dressmakers were still very ular), or by the new circular cut. busy, but ready-made clothes, once scorned, were Waistlines were two inches above normal, and improving in quality and modishness, especially in dress waists were quite varied; tight fitting and suits, skirts and coats, and being accepted. It was a laced peasant styles were common, surplice, vestees period of trial· and error, the itch to try new ideas and suspenders and bloused effects over guimpes for evident. Having achieved comfort and mobility, La contrast. Fresh variations of that old friend the Mode's problem was to make them "chic." middy blouse and a new rather long overblouse which slipped over the head and was belted were worn with the new circular skirt or six-gored type for tennis or golf or other "outing" wear. Necklines were quite generally low but the stand-up turned down collar was still good and the Quaker collar an innovation. Many dresses and blouses were orna mented with a stand-up plaited frill at the back of the neck which sometimes narrowed and followed the neckline around to the front of the blouse. We illustrate an interesting novelty shirtwaist whose collar is cut in one with the waist, the raglan sleeve being carried to the top of the collar making a con vertible neckline. All the old terms are used in this PICTORIAL RE VIEW: "princess, tunic, bolero or Zouave jacket, guimpe and tiers", but all have adapted interpreta tions. It is in fact quite fascinating to follow these same terms of fashion throughout the years as they emerge as the dernier cri and become submerged again. Note the 1915 version of the motor coat; fabrics recommended for it were tweed, gabardine, home spun, heather mixtures, covert cloth and whipcord. These fabrics plus serge, cotton corduroy, poplin, linen, pongee, taffeta and faille list the most popular materials for suits and skirts. Some of these and 32
O. 8771 - The girl N who motors will like either of these little caps. The first is illustrated of navy blue velvet and will 27
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PICTORIAL REVIEW, March 1915 34 Plan to Attend the lSth ail
Photo by Mike Roberts •••••••••••••••••••••••••• SEPTEMBER 8-9-10-11 35 ~nual ! HCCA NATIONAL TOUR! •••••••••••••••••••••••••• IYOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK
1966 National Horseless Carriage Tour Office of Tour Coordinator Dear Member: On behalf of the National Tour Committee may I extend an invitation to attend the H.C.C.-National Tour September 8th-12th at Yosemite National Park. We would love to have you participate and share our fun during these four days and enjoy the events outlined in the following tour itinerary. Bud Catlett, Tour Coordinator
• Thursday- September 8th RESERVATION INFORMATION Registration at Camp Curry 11 :00 a .m. to 3:00p.m. Explore The package price is $115.00 per couple or $75.00 Yosemite Valley on your own . Cocktail party 6:00 p.m. fol single. Children 3 through 9 using rollaway bed in parents lowed by Get Acquainted Banquet and entertainment. room, $40.00. The full amount or $35.00 deposit must accompany each reservation. Entry fee to Yosemite Park • Friday - September 9th will be on your own. Breakfast on your own. The tour will leave Camp Curry for Send reservations and requests for information to Bud Tuolumne Meadows at 9 :00 a.m. This will be a rather long Catlett, P.O. Box 10, Reno, Nevada. day as it takes us up from the floor of the valley to the high mountain country in the eastern section of the park where RESERVATION DEADLINE AUGUST 25TH, 1966 you will view some of the most scenic mountain country in the western United States. Lunch stop at Tuolumne Meadows on the shore of Lake Tenaya. Return to Camp Curry for no REQUIREMENTS host cocktail party at 6 :00p.m. followed by a banquet and FOR PARTICIPATING CARS AND OCCUPANTS entertainment. 1. Horseless Carriages limited to 1915 madels and older. • Saturday - September 1Oth No exceptions to this rule. Breakfast on your own. Leave 10:00 a .m. for Glacier Point 2. All cars must be in good condition with respect to paint then to the Wawona Hotel where we will enjoy a buffet and exterior portions. Judging will be done according lunch at the historic old Wawona Hotel. After lunch we will to the rules established by the National Board. tour to Tuolumne Big Trees, one of the most magnificent 3. Public liability and property damage insur~nce must be stands of gigantic redwoods to be found in the Sierra . carried on all vehicles. Return to Camp Curry for cocktail party at 6 :30 p .m. fol 4. Suitable costumes must be worn at all times. lowed by Awards Banquet and entertainment. 5. No commercial advertising will be permitted on any • Sunday - September 11th participating car, with the exception of the official Sleep late - Breakfast on your own. Visit with your friends H.C .C. insignia provided at point of joining tour. and depart for home at your leisure. (Please cut out or duplicate)
NAME ______REGIONAL GROUP
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PASSENGERS ALL NAMES AS DESIRED ON J.D . BADGE ___ ------·- - ·---·-
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MAKE OF CAR ______YEAR _ ___MODEL .__ ___ BODY STYLE ____ _
NUMBER OF CYLINDERS _____CAR LICENSE NUMBER_ _ _ _ STATE ______
INSURANCE CARRIER _____ 36 Early Auto Technical Drawings Compiled by Harry B. Johnson
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N.Y. TO PARIS WINNER 93
EARLY CHEVROLET HISTORY by Doug Bell is the latest in Floyd Clymer's series of historical auto motive books. Passenger cars from 1912 to 1928 and trucks from 1918 to 1945 are covered in detail, with lists of specifications and serial numbers and hun dreds of good photos. The book is arranged by model categories convenient for reference and the 198 page book surely represents the most complete and accurate effort possible. Author Doug Bell is widely recognized as the top Chevrolet authority. A section on makes closely associated with Chevrolet is something entirely new, and a particularly fas cinating aspect that will be new to nearly all read ers. Some 17 makes and their relationship to Che vrolet are covered, ranging from well known cars George Schuster, driver of the New York-to- Paris Thomas Flyer, cele like the Little to curious makes such as the Monroe. brated his 93rd birthday recently. He is pictured (right) with Tom A good value at $3.00· postpaid from Floyd Clymer, Mahoney, coauthor of their new book The Longest Auto Race, pub 222 N. Virgil, Los Angeles 4. lished by the John Day Company. Schuster and Mahoney are holding a handmade birthday card sent by artist Peter Heick; the heading reads, "Happy Birthday to the man who carried the flag." Floyd Clymer's VOLKSWAGEN OWNER HANDBOOK has just appeared in its 8th edition, and covers the current 1300 model and all previous "beetles." This 284 page book goes into greater detail than most Decorative· insurance owners will need to know, and the text and nearly 500 illustrations make clear every aspect of the ve hicle. An excellent bargain at $3.00, this new edi tion has full color covers and includes Clymer's famous test report on the VW made over the auto bahns and country roads of Germany. f'7.7l , "•!QUE AUTOi t.:..:J il•'~ ~ The VOLKSWAGEN 1600 OWNERS HANDBOOK is Floyd Clymer's new book on the new Fastback, Squareback and Varient models - the book also includes all the 1500 models produced the past few years. Nearly 500 photos, charts and drawings and a complete explanation of all parts of the car make this 268 page book invaluable to the VW owner or intending purchaser. Price is $4.00 postpaid from Clymer Publications, 2'22 N. Virgil, Los Angeles 4.
Insurance policies issued by the J. C. .Taylor Co. Inc. of Upper Darby, Pa. now have a "new look" - or rather, an "old" look, for the special antique and classic policies now have an early Mercedes pictured on the face of the policy and the decorative typography follows the same theme. The policy's jacket and the owners identi fication card also have the new appearance.
Ga zette Bi nders "m~~ STURDY BINDERS SPECIALLY IMPRINTED HOLD TWO TO THREE YEARS. EASY TO USE. $3.00 Foreign countries, $3.50
Horseless Carriage Club of America WANTED: Old photos of home made soap box racers 9031 E. Florence Avenue for a coming Gazette feature on these once popular Downey, California sidewalk vehicles. - EDITOR
THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 liarralYs BELOVED METZ CHEV FOUR NINETY: the model number was its price
The nimble Metz my uncle owned Remember when the Chevrolet was light enough for friction drive. "Four-Ninety" touring first appeared? Those slight inequities not round The cars displayed on Dealer's Row where friction met the plate flywheel had bullfrog springs in front, their splay were cured, in part, by bantam pounds, reached forward to twin axle bolts. which let Metz climb in creeper speeds Those bolts looked sturdy, yet they sheared the region's sandy chico mounds. encountering roads' outsized jolts. A car well suited to such deeds! Prim Chevists carried extras in that catch-all underneath the seat, Out-demonstrating drives through steel and men who wore the desert grin, was Unk's delight. But when he bought upon the floor, among the feet. a Carter Car, sheer avoirdupois defeated what were Metz's ploys. That brisk "Four-Ninety" car had verve. Unk carried frictions in a sack; It out-performed the stodgy "T" asked for, in vain, his money back. with two speeds while the Chev had three.
The second owner of the Metz Many its faults, though quick to serve. displayed its stunts, won many bets; Some owners hauled an "ex" to save but overreached himself at last perhaps long walks when that part gave; by rigging the reverse too fast. an extra clutch (its cone had ripped Third-hand, or fourth, it met a wreck out more rear ends than mudholes stripped; and we lost track of it from there. knocked down stout backwalls of garages). Some hauled a stick for shifter, should Years later, on another quest equipment gear-stalk prove poor wood. -the restoration of a Bear A how-to-do-it book (detailed) ! saw the Metz as rusted junk was handy with the water pailed, among some scrapped cars oozing gunk. end-wrenches poised and capscrews clean. (Those Northway Heads brought on more calls I looked at Metz parts did the work for crack-repair, than barrooms brawls of gear transmissions scorned by Unk, with Ketchel there and drunken-mean.) and saw that now its friction was an old mail-order catalog, When GM bought the potent name, its paper, processed from the log, corrected many early faults, set edgewise between driven discs. the Chev went on to first-place fame Those thousand edges made convection which sires this season's catapaults. were, doubtless, bolstered in their work But some will not forget the car by whipple-tree and harness section! once harassed leaders as a "crate". Rest well, "Four-Ninety", heady wine that needled Fords and overweight contender cars with shifting-gate. Your emblem, and adventure, twine.
THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 41
ORIENTAL BUCKBOARD
Our rural carrier back from war, brought home an Oriental car; a slight assembly friction driven, rear engined. Nine horsepower was given by one big cylinder. "What rush?" its slogan as with one-lunged Brush.
By current standards not equipped, the Oriental drove as shipped. PERENNIAL No top or windshield, but a rash of pigeon holes made up the dash, There was a man my neighbor knew held mail for patrons of the route. who knew a man of means And I can hear our Carrier yet, that built a carburetor flue -best known as Buckboard Vic the Vet wrung out of gasolines had fought in China, at Peking, economy complete. What's more, just holler, with no bell to ring, its mix was full of beans. that yip Marines made set to shoot, while boxing letters he would bring. That car it bolted to, I hear, could twist sound casings from the rims, Vic's car's name didn't mean a thing yet average 50 miles per quart. -it being made at Waltham, Mass., with buckboard frame and little brass. I checked the tale and it rings true, For Vic, no motor idealist, vouched for by men that witnesses knew the stuff left off was never missed. had probity to shame a bond. The engine never missed frills either. Put, put, it said when sun was king. This carb, I ordered; went to court Put, put, it said in whoreson weather. to get delivery. Then learned So made the trips for several years the man of means won't sell to me despite some buggy addicts' fears because a town's economy they wouldn't get the county weekly is more important than my yen. the day of issue. The judge spoke learnedly of tort, Vic went cheaply seeing so little gas is burned appointed rounds. Gas mileage got by buyers of this thrifty pot to thirty-five with roads turned dry in other states, pump hands stand palely and winds at rest. Top speed was not in tall weeds of each filling station sensational in friction "high." once served gas guzzlers of our nation, Enough, it gave with puts of pulling while shoeless offspring steal for bread. reverberated through each clearing.
There's one departure ere carb's va'le: A lady poet on the route This man of means denies my plea, would say puts made the welkin ring, at least owns no refinery! though none' but she could track the thing.
e VERSES BY STANLEY DONALDSON, SAGUACHE, COLORADO 42
This old map showing an interesting route from the San Francisco-Oakland bay area to Lake Tahoe, was originally published in the Oakland TRIBUNE for Reno Tourists: for Sunday July 19, 1914. It was immediately re printed by the Feather River Highway Assn. at Oro ville, California, and the copy reproduced here was contributed by National Director George Skopecek. The map was drawn by TRIBUNE artist Edmund Crinnion, based on a run made by a Buick Model 25. The mileages are from the Buick's speedometer. Fred Gross and C. A. McGee of the Howard Auto mobile Company drove the Buick, which was equipped with Goodyear tires.
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THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 43 BRASSWORI{ l SHELDON GREENLAND First in quality Antique Car Parts 3761 Hillway Dt·ive, Glendale 8, Califomia A. A. HIND-V I EW MIRRORS . Solid brass replica of type us ed All wices Post Paid- Money Back Guarantee- Add 4'/o Sales Tax Calif. order during brass e ra for a ll open cor. Price: $12.95 each L B. HORN ASSE MBLY: 1, ADAPTER brass attaches to horn, also holds reed 75 ¢ 8 . 2. ADAPTER AND REE D COVER, brass a lso used as bul b con nector...... 1 .00 ea. 3. TUBING bra ss IAexible) for all old styl e horns ..... l.OOft. 4 . BULB MOUNTING BRACKET, brass, origina l design ...... 3.00 ea. 5. BLACK RUBBER BULB, with brass ferrule ...... 2.50 ea. NOTE : All threaded items above corry a %" x 32 thread. Thread design varied w ith manufacturers. To a ss ure fit, items 1 and 2 and 2 and 4 should be ordered together. C. MODEL T SWITCH KEY, exact repl ica of original ( steel) ...... 1 .00 ea . D. FEND ER ANT I-R ATTLE BRACKETS , so li d brass, orig in a l duplicates-Set of 4...... 1.95 . ANT laUE AUTO • G. E. St ewart Speedometer CABLE HOUSING, exact duplicate in . Q . soli d brass. Modern cable mu st be used in si de. (No t suited ri~ (!) ow ... " for old type linkage). Fittings for Jones, Johns-Manvi ll e and Stewart speedo me te rs. Specify...... Comple te 9 .95 MAIIt HARIIU!ll . llil~ K. h ~ ':J Coble comes in 5-ft. le ngth s. If additional le ngth s required add ...... $1 per foot -- (~ ~ _/ fti G. ANTIQUE CAR OWNERS PLATE , beautiful brass plate, Q. EARLY "T"- HUB CAPS; BLOCK,I SCR IPT AND PLA IN. Stamped 4 lh x 2lj4 le tte rin g and e mblems in brass re lief. Cho ice of of solid brass, polished to a fine finish. Finest quali ty. Set of four block or maroon background. Soecify color ...... 2 .25 eo. $ 14.95. Specify Block, Scri pt or Plain Type. MANY MORE K. K-W SW IT CH PLATE. Beautiful, quality reproouct1on. De e p QUALITY acid e tched brass. Black lacquer background .... Pric e $2.50 ea. T WINDSHIELD HIN GE BRACKETS. Stamped of CAR PARTS . heavy gauge brass, complete with special machined SEND S.S.A.E . M. WOOD COIL BOXES 1909-11. Du p licate of H e inz~ or Kingston. Will toke mode rn coils . Beautiful mahogany ready bolt springs and brass acorn nul. This is a fine qual- FOR BROCHURE for fini shing. Priced so that you discord o ld one. $9.95 ea. ity product. Experts cannot te ll it from the original. $14.95 pair.
BACK ISSUES 1956 Angeles to Denver by Pope Hartford, discovery of Vol. 18, No. 2. Oldsmobile "Old Steady" on cover, Moons, Ward Kimball tells How to Stripe your early Czechoslovakian cars, Los Angeles museum Horseless Carriage. collection, Seattle antique auto show, Daimler-Benz Vol. 18, No. 5. Reno tour story, Early Motoring museum, Reminiscences of the Pierce Arrow. in Texas, 11 pages of Buick facts and photos, Auto Vol. 18, No.3. Texas Tour story, Ralph De Palma motive Postcards, "Modernizing 1909 to Restoring racing record, early cars in San Francisco, The first 1956" by Bill Norton. Indianapolis "500," 1911 Marmon "32" catalog re Vol. 18, No. 6. Color cover picture at Grizzly print, pre-500 races at Indianapolis, 1896 Cosmo Flats depot with 1883 Baldwin locomotive, 11 other politan race, women's "Authentic Wardrobe," Italy's full color pictures, annual HCCA field meet, 12-page old cars, Kimball spaceman captures Model T. biography of Ferdinand Porsche with pictures of Vol. 18, No. 4. Western and Midwest National 15 pre-WW1 Porsche cars, Fairfield County (Conn.) HCCA tours, F.O. Stanley at Estes Park Colorado, meet, "Coast to Coast by Locomobile," multicolor early California touring, Kansas and Bay Area illustrations on "Horseless Carriage Painting Made (California) reports, women's touring fashions, Los Easy."
ORDER FROM $1.00 A COPY Horseless Carriage Club of America Californ ia Res1dents Add 4c 9031 E. Florence Avenue for Every Dollar (S ale s Tax) Downey, California 44 \N~s ,, WHAT WAs THE ORIGINAL COLOR" y.J '"'i. tt i. ? WHAT'S THE YEAR· '''H~T IS fT? WHAT SIZE ·~RES? WHAT DID IT "" " ' ~ IT DISCoNl\NUED. COST? WHEN WAS
DAYTON MOTOR BICYCLE ENGINE IDENTIFIED Sir: Correspondence for this department should be Last week in my own newspaper I discovered an addressed to: ad for an auction for the benefit of the Dexter fire Dr. ALFRED S. LEWERENZ 4107 HOLLY KNOLL DRIVE department. Listed in the items to be sold was a HOLLYWOOD 27, CALIFORNIA Smith motor. After work Saturday, my son and I To receive a reply, inquiries MUST include a self·addressed, went down to the auction. We inspected the motor stamped envelope. Send front and side view photos, engme and serial numbers, bore, stroke, wheelbase, etc. and discovered that someone had tried to make a stationary engine out of it, but that basically it was in its original form, the modifications being on~y 1911 PRATT -ELKHART RESTORATION what one could do with a few nuts and bolts. I outbid Sir: I have just become the owner of a Pratt-Elk my nearest rival and picked the motor up for $11. hart but I need information on this car. Could you My son and I studied the motor carefully, compar plea~e heip me out as to where I can get the infor ing it with other items that we had for my No. 1 mation I need? I am enclosing a self addressed enve Smith motor. It bothers me, however, that there are lope for any information which you can supply. The certain differences of a kind that suggests the motor brass plate on the firewall gives it as a Model T, is neither a Smith nor a Briggs and Stratton. On serial no. 1361. The motor number is 931 ... trans the top of the carburetor it says Dayton Motor Bi mission was manufactured by "Waukesha Motor Co. cycle. The carburetor is more or less the same as for the Elkhart Carriage and Harness Mfg. Co." I've that on the Smith and approximately the same as been told it is a 1911, but, other than that, nobody what was used on the Briggs. It is obviously inter seems to know what color it should be or any other changeable with the carburetor I have on the Smith helpful info. I don't have a picture to send which Motor Wheel. However, nowhere on the motor does would help you. From all appearances, there were the name Smith appear, specifically not on the cyl inder where it appears on the casting of my No. 1 Smith Motor Wheel. Furthermore, the cam shaft gear is a straight cut gear rather than a helical cut. The Smith gears are helical cut. The rest of the specifications seem to be the same, including .the bronze connecting rods, with one further exceptiOn. The crank shaft runs in bronze bearings, as con t 1T :t Jll()l11r atta~·h!lwnt f , ,~ a l11n• !.·, but a trasted with a kind of roller bearing on the Smith ··nmpli·tr· M•1for Htc'~Tit• (JI _ :-.\,~~"' l:t~ .<.'IJn:'trlll'· N.l ttnn l ~ lr ougltout. JL.l h. p . I1•. Jr ·:'>• n tllrd•·Jr and later it was used in the Briggs. I never heard !J 1r , •r ' l :tiJ!dir.tti(J!l qf \."ICIWt"f t.brnu~h (r nl : ~ · h<'l ' i ·ln1''. ',,, i'•lWt'f lo..,t ''" in l"ltain or hf'lt clnvt·. S~wr·~1 of a Dayton Motor Bicycle. Was there such a thing? ' " , 11 ,k...; JWI h•Htr . lti~IL lt·n~itHl m:q.J,III't •l IJ.!Ill ' lf•ll J 1. 1 ~ thff•t· -~ H·m rol'kl·r -: pnng fork. ~{l' f' l It was clearly of the same design as the Smith, l111 · lwr rim~ v.·ith 1'' f·xtra twavr. cnrrul,!atf'rl- but was it an effort on the part of Dayton to l r- •.1 1 tirt: ~ . Built in mt·n'..; and ladies' mod•·l~. \\ 1' 11.!1 ::-< n11l y l ~ " lh~. SinRI• ~ tSrip control. copy, or what? I know it is not significant that L .· · \· t<~ rid•· ar11i (;uid•·. the name should be on the carburetor, but on We Need the other hand, when no name appears anywhere else, I begin to ask questions. -JOHN B. JOHNSON Watertown, N.Y. HELP YOU START IN BUSINESS ViVfir....-~ ' ' !,· , . , II; • )\• ' .q(lll' \ i"r th~ • • I I \1 . I,, • !'. .. , , It· :-; •• . ' Jill • • ' 111 ·· ·1 1\.!, . j\;oJ .\ l·•·ll l · lt
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ANTIQUE CAR 1966 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR TOP AND UPHOLSTERY Mate rial s YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK MOHAIRS - BROADCLOTH LINERS -TOP MATERIALS September 8-9-10-11
never any front doors, although, there are rear 25 ORIGINAL STYLES doors. Referring you to the HC Gazette Sept-Oct, 1960, Vol. 22, No. 5 ... my car looks identical to Bindings, Welts, Cords, Windlace, etc., etc. the one pictured on pages 42 and 43, belonging to For FREE SAMPLES send piece of old & yds. Joseph DelFave ... except mine does not have the wanted. Year, Make & Body Style. front doors, as I mentioned. Do the references which you list, also pertain to my Pratt-Elkhart? I will be anxiously awaiting your reply. Wm. L. u BILL" FESSLER -R. D. BOWMAN, 1517 McGee Street,KANSAS CITY, MO. 64108 Bismark, N. Dak. Res: Phone PL. 3-0157
• In reply to your letter of November 8th, the Elk il " hart Carriage and Harness Co. was a relatively small t t PROTECT your car in the garage and on tour with a durable, heavy (.00375 ) Dupont polyethelene clear producer of automobiles. The firm did little national PLAST IC CAR COVER . Strong stitched seams and elas· tic band at bottom. advertising and I have found comparatively few 13 ft. long x 142 in. wide (small, low cars ) . .. $ 9.50 references on the make. 16 ft. long x 162 in. wide (T's and A's) ...... $11.00 19ft. long x 162 in. wide (large touring) .. .. $12.50 From the information that you sent me I am in 21ft. long x 162 in. wide (Grand Monsters ) .. $15.00 clined to believe that your Pratt-Elkhart is a 1911 t t ENJOY 72 page book of information and photos in the " ANTIQUE AUTO·BIOGRAPHY. Over 4000 different "40" model. There is some evidence that the E. C. cars and trucks li sted with dates and places of manu facture. Compiled by National Market Reports, Inc. & H. Co. in 1911 furnished bodies at buyer's option Only $2 .50. Postpaid. either with or without front doors. I am enclosing t t DECORATE your den or family room with "KING STILL." A 1910 sepi a tone 13" x 18" action print of a photo-copy of the 1911 "40" from FARM & FIRE- an early race car. On quality paper, suitable for •SIDE for March 10, 1911. I am also enclosing a photo framing. $1.95 each. 2 for $3.50. copy of the Crow-Elkhart specifications from page All orders postpaid by us. Please, no charges or COD's. 153 of the CYCLE AND AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL WAYZATA AUTOMOTIVE SUPPLIES , for March, 1911. With these for references you 16230 Fifth Ave. North - Wayzata, Minnesota should be able to check details of your car to further verify the 1911 date. As Joseph Del Fave's Pratt-Elkhart is probably much like yours what I had to say in the GAZETTE Q-ls "engine" a masculine or feminine word? for Sept.-Oct. 1960 probably also applies in your case. A-Depends on whether or not it Mrs. You might also write for further information. Mr. Del Fave's address is 21 West Buffalo, Churchville, NY. 14428. ..-! ..-! 0') fjiiiiii- - - ..-! 0~ 40 ..-! \ Pratt-Elkhart "40" ...s:: <:..) 1 is tlle C] ::idest , simplest nud most powerful car .... <:1$ 1 in t in' "~o·• c:" ~'·· They are iu use today in over b ::\11 ''lt: St.tt< ~ i'1 the Un1"11. ;g f;z;l~ Q BACKED BY THIRTY-EIGHT YEARS' ...... 00 SUCCESSFUL MANUFACTURING EXPERIENCE f;z;l · ~ •.1 f ( ·.J r ~. . l assv Li ··.:;:.: ns; 117'· 11H.. :: h wht:'el bast!, ...... ~ p, . r l-' i.1!lt, l i,Jte jl~JIIll S~hiH:" Il~ivn, offset ~ CI .-\ :11-. ... IJ ,tft, n r,..;c h l\!.ll! !: (' fll, 0.lx4-inc h tires. Ll ':'! ' ! ·: ,, .,_ --- ~I "'l'ti.IJtJ . Top [lnd wind s l.a eiJ extra. Q Wo Wut a Samplo C., lo [my t...Gty-Write for Catooloc ... ~ z ~bual propeoitloo < El.lHAlT CARRIAGE 6 HARNESS llfG. CO., ..... W... ~ < ~ 46
SIDE AND HEADLIGHT LENS COWL EDGING Arnold Geith of Oak River, Manitoba, Canada says Chris says, also that he gets good results in cowl that he has found a source for smooth, clear, convex edging by using commercially prepared split tubing lenses for side lights and so forth. He is using clock available at large sheet metal shops or restaurant lenses. We've checked out size availability and find supply companies. The tube comes in three or four that many sizes can be had and found they come in sizes and is used on edges of metal sinks and so forth. graduations of 1/16 of an inch in the popular diame To keep the split open when bending it, place short ters such as 5 and 11/16. Any good watch repair tabs or pieces in the split. Hold these by tape. Re shop can order these and we are told the cost to the move these after bending. Tabs should be thicker repair shop is approximately 40¢ each: about 80¢ than body metal. each to you plus postage. The lenses are about 1/16 of an inch thick and could cause a breakage problem, HEAD GASKET ALIGNMENT but at that price, not much is lost. Also, it was found A good tool for every tool box is a pair of bolts that the clock lenses have a slightly higher crown longer than the regular head bolts of your engine. than most sidelight lenses hut, with a little work, With the bolt head cut off and a hack saw slot at the they can be used very well. unthreaded end, they make good aligning guides for Geith trimmed the edge off a couple of lenses with the head gasket and head. The slot in the end is a hand grinding tool fitted with an abrasive wheel. for a screwdriver to remove the studs after some With the wide selection of lenses to choose from, and regular head bolts are installed in adjacent holes the possibility of a little trimming, just about any (see sketch #1). size lens can be made. THREAD SAVER REO 1 CYLINDER B&G BODY PLANS A good clamp to hold a bolt or stud and not spoil Your technical editor has been compiling a set of the threads nor mar the shoulder surface is a split working drawings for the above series of body wood nut. Hacksaw a slot in one of the flats, then screw parts. With the exception of a few items listed below, the part to be reworked in the nut, and clamp the they are complete and are being checked by Harry nut in a vise on any two of the other five flats. This Bean and a couple of other members against original does a good job to keep the part from turning while bodies. The plans will he available to members at working on it (see sketch #2). the cost of reproducing and mailing which should help to get some more cars on the road. However, SQUARE HEADED BOLTS help is needed on the following items and we would The early, small, square head cap screws which are appreciate hearing from those having original items almost impossible to find may be duplicated with for patterns. Needed are '06-'08 and '10 dash pat keystock and all thread rod, if you don't have a lathe terns showing coil bolt hole locations, '08 seat back handy. Select keystockof the ri ght size and cut lengths patterns with top support bracket holt locations and equal to the head height. Drill and tap these to the '09-'10 running board size and battery box bolt hole locations. Write your Technical Editor Vaun Rodgers at 5516 .------. Homer Circle, El Paso, Texas to help get this project on wheels.
BATTERY CORROS ION From Chris Reimuller of Cherry Valley, California comes this one, "If you want to get rid of battery terminal corrosion, clean terminal and dry, paint YOUR REPAIR AND RESTORATION SUGGESTIONS with KARO or plain corn syrup - Dries in an hour WILL BE APPRECIATED BY or so on a dry day and no more corrosion. It looks Vaun E. Rodgers like clear lacquer." Sounds like a sweet solution to a 5516 Homer Cr. El Paso 4, Texas sour problem. ~------~ THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 47 CLEM C. HIS ER Distributor of SPEEDOMETERS Antique-Vintage-Classic HUNDREDS OF NEW AND REBUILT SPEEDOMETERS-ALL MAKES AND Priced From MODELS FOR THE ANTIQUE, VIN $1500 Exch. TAGE AND CLASSIC ALL HAVE BEEN NEWLY SERVICED Auto Tires AND ARE IN MINT CONDITION By P.J.A.- Gehrig- Denman UNCONDITIONALLY GUARANTEED 3972 Pacific Coast Highway, MAIL OLD SPEEDOMETER FOR MATCH AND PRICE Torrance, California. t Day & Night phone service: FORD A FORD T Tel. No. 378-4519, Area Code 213 15.95 Exch. 19.95 Exch. ROUND OR OVAL STEWART-WARNER STEWART-WARNER 160 Models No. 600 & 413 Model No. Head Only-No Mount. State Year and Type -THESE SPEEDOMETERS ARE COMPLETELY REBUILT AND REFINISHED LIKE NEW CALIBRATED FOR ACCURACY AND SET AT 00 MILES OR MILEAGE SPECIFIED IN ORDER - UNCONDITIONALLY GUARANTIID - EXCHANGE SPEEDO'S MUST BE REASONABLY INTACT ONLY-ADD $4.00 If NO EXCHANGE
SPEEDOMETER DRIVE ASSEMBLIES ~~~ !~::~:~-:~~~::~:::::!':., .. FORD T 1909-27 37.50 ALL OTHER CARS 39.50 State Year State Make, Model, Year and Tire Size COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED-LESS SPEEDOMETER HEAD INCLUDES-CABLE, 5/o 0. D. CASING, 2V,,I RATIO ANGLE DRIVE, PROPER CLAMP 16 TOOTH FIBER GEAR, 58 TOOTH ROAD GEAR AND All FITIINGS
COMPLETE SPEEDOMETER REPAIR SERVICE SPEEDOMETER CABLES, CASINGS, FIBER GEARS, ROAD GEARS II. OTHER PARTS FOR ANTIQUE • VINTAGE • CLASS IC All MAKES II. MODELS-WRITE FOR PRICES All MAKES AND MODELS REPAIRED OR ALL ITEMS POSTPAID-NO C.O.D.'• REBUILT REGARDLESS OF CONDITION MAIL SPEEDO FOR QUOTATION DON MARR 1062 San Marcos Rd., Sonia Barbara, Calif. Tel. 805-964-1158
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bolt thread size. Screw a length of all thread rod equal to the bolt length plus head into the square head and braze in place. A little paint and you can't tell the substitute from the real thing.
SOMETHING TO REMEMBER Tires that are not sufficiently inflated will rimcut and are more liable for puncture than if blown up WE ' VE GOT SAFETY GLASS AND SEAT BELTS - SO WE CAN hard. Dykes A utomobile Encyclopedia, 1914. GO ON ANY TOUR! Jack St evens, Ev ergreen Gos-fffe . 48 Cia,ssi£ied GENERAL REQUIREMENTS RESTRICTIONS (1) Members: one ad of about 50 words free each ( 1) The classified advertising section is limited to issue. Photo, $1.00. the exchange of noncommercial items. Persons (2) Nonmembers: $6.00 for a 50-word ad. Photo, selling or producing automobiliana on a busi $4.00 extra. ness basis are considered commercial advertis (3) Payment must accompany all ads. ers and must use Display ads or the Service (4) Ads should be submitted on an ordinary post Directory. Write for rates. card; print clearly or typewrite in the form of (2) Persons requiring ads longer than the standard ads you see below. 50-word group, or who require special typog (5) Write your membership card number at the raphy or space, must use Display space; write top of the postcard, and state whether ad is for information on rates. For Sale, Swap or Wanted. (6) Ads offering a car for sale must include the NOTICE price. While every effort is made to assure accuracy, (7) Ads are accepted for one insertion only. neither the GAZETTE staff nor the HCCA can be (8) Photos (1 per ad) should be small black-white held accountable for misleading or unclear state glossies. ments in ads. In the event of typographical errors, responsibility to the advertiser cannot extend be Horseless Carriage Club of America yond agreement to publish a corrected insertion. 9031 E. Florence Avenue Downey, California llllllllllllllmnlmlmmnmmlmmmnmmmlmlmmmnmmnmmmnmmmnmnnmmmmlmnnmmnmmlmmnmmnnnnnnmlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllmnn FOR SALE Four cylinder Metz engine, year unknown. Charles B. Imhoff, For Ford 'T': Spot light brass rim, $7. 50; aluminum trans. 2002 Colton Blvd., Billings, Montana. cover lettered peddles, mint condition, $40.; small steering wheel spider, $3.; speedometer sweep needle brass rim, $7. 50; One National magneto, one national coil. Both removed from set of spring shock absorbers, front and rear, $10.; "Savidge" 1912 Reo the Fifth. One Corbin speedometer, he ad. One Mo anti shimmy device, $5. H. L. Blodgett, Jr., Box #143, Deer tor's Hand Book, 15th. Edition. One Motor's Hand Book, 1933 Lodge, Montana. 59722. Edition. One Motor's Hand Book, 12th. Edition. All books contain specifications, interchangeable parts, service instruc 1946 Lincoln Continental 2 door hardtop,, V-12 engine with tions. Any one of the above, $6.00 p.p. L. E. Parsons, Box extra V-12 engine. Has new whipcord upholstery but needs 422, Grafton, Nebr. paint job. $1,000. Jack Kopp, 1795 Lawrence Road, Santa Clara, Gilif. Phone: 296-2608. 1908 Maxwell run about, red with black fenders. Mint condi tion, restored professionally. Engine #AA6320, $4,700. 1911 Greyhound radiator cap in mint condition. For 1926-28 Lin Hup touring, serial #35218. New top, tires, paint and engine coln. One Hayes 25" wire wheel, two 30x5 Cad wire wheels remanufactured. Safety glass windshield. Drive it home. $3,750. with knock on hubs. Beautiful rear windshield three piece 1913 Peerless Imperial Berlin Sedan (formal) Chauffeur, not mahogany wood frame with nickle plated fixtures complete. enclosed. Ahren Ott 18 valve 'T' head 5-7 Six engine rebuilt, For price and pictures write: R. D. Pascall, 2494 Hamilton 70 m.p.h. 4 speed transmission. New rubber, body and up Lane, Grants Pass, Oregon. 97 526. holstery original (good). $10,000. Sr. #14328. 1922 Locomo bile Sportif. Engine, body, rubber, paint and running gear re 1935 Ford 4 dr. convertible sedan. No engine or transmission. stored. New nickel. Needs top and upholstery. Engine bal Does have all rare parts including top bows and rails, win anced. Serial #18006. $7,900. C. F. Black, 5121 N. Inrergordon dow parts and center posts. Body solid, no rust, but does Dr., Phoenix, Ariz. need some body work, upholstery. $450. Jim Bradley, P.O. Box #311, Pendleton, Oregon. Phone: KBZY -KVUE-TV, 364- 1951 Jeepster complete for restoring, $495. 1939 Ford con 6748, Salem, Oregon. vertable sedan. No motor, good running parts car. $695. both. 1955 Ford pickup, Cadillac motor and transmission. Needs Pair Cadillac mint brass sidelights circa 1913- 15, offer; Chev· paint and upholstery. $450. Robert G. Weamer, 3173 Castle rolet 1929-30 painted radiator shell and emblem (nice) $5.00 Rock Road, Diamond Bar, Calif. 91767. F.O.B.; 1932 Ford 'B' 4 cyl. manifold, $5.00 F.O.B.; 1930-31 Ford 'A' headlights less lens, $3. each plus postage. 1933· 1919 Buick touring partly restored, new upholstry and many 34 Ford V-8 oil pan, $3. 50 F.O.B. S.A.S.E. for reply. Richard extra parts. $600. Also Rolls 20 and Rolls 20-25. Joe D. Mont Hurlburt, 27 \\est, Greenfie ld, Mass. gomery, 2013 Alameda Padre Serra, Santa Barbara, Calif. 93103 Lincoln 'K' V- 8 engine, (1930-?) motor number 709 complete, 23 page illustrated booklet on lubrication, adjustment and $250. Also beautiful aluminum case transmission (with free care of the Ruckstell Axel. Exact reprint of original booklet wheeling) for same engine, $150. Both stored ins ide twenty shipped with each new Ruckstell Axle; covers passenger car years since removal from good running car. Crating and freight and truck axles, with gear ratio chart. For your copy mail extra. Leopold E. Garcia, Bernalillo, New Mexico. Phone: $2.00 to Robert M. Thayer, 5613 N. Rockton Ave. , Rockford, 5 05-867-2458. Illinois. 61103. 1948 Packard Limousine, 43,000 miles, $1,000. 1951 Patri Something for the Packard collector: A miniature 4- way screw cian Sedan, $300. 1950 Clipper Sedan, $150. Ten old Packards driver in a genuine leather vest pocket case imprinted 'Pack 1940 to 1953, all ten for $1,000. Will trade clear resort land ard.' $2.00 each, post paid. Very limited quantity. I discov• in Taos, New Mexico, Arkansas-Oklahoma or Canada for ex ered these during a recent European trip. Lyman Greenlee, pensive old car. Otis Garrett, 4409 Classen Blvd., Oklahoma Box 1036, Anderson, Indiana. 46015. City, Okla. Phone: 405-524- 3371. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 49
FOR SALE 1939 Buick Century 4 door sedan. 15,000 one owner miles. Dark Hamilton Blue finish with soft gray pleated interior, rear armrest and throw cushions. Interior mouldings, dash, carpet ing, etc. as new. Tires excellent. This car performs like new. $885. Thomas H. Jester, The Oxford Bank, Oxford, Kansas. 67119.
1931 Ford Model 'A' DeLuxe Coupe. Excellent restored con dition. Engine overhauled 5,000 miles, including new line bored mains. Black vinyl upholstery and heading. Beautiful, maroon with black top and fenders. $1,300. C. R. Farrar, 242 Moore St., Santa Cruz, Calif.
1915-16 Locomobile 48, Type M 6. Custom Landulet engine #9010. All original accessories and wheels, body built by Locomobile Custom Dept., designed by DuCusse. Removable windshield frame, corner posts fold down. Natural ash rat tail body inserts in back deck. Mint condition. Alexander Stein Trophy winner, 1959. Three Glidden Tours. Only one of this body style in existence. Also Mark II Continental, White, new paint and D. E. tires. Both $13,000. Carl Berry, 901 Woods wether Road, Kansas City, Missouri. Phone: 816-421-2931.
1930 Model 'A' Ford sport coupe completely restored. New top, upholstery, paint, chrome, battery. Tires real good and car runs fine. A beautiful little car. $900. L. L. Webber, 2432 Alder St., Bakersfield, Calif. Phone: 332-7802 or TE 1-6010.
English Austin Seven tourer, 1928. Completely restored to original condition in London, prior to shipment to Los Ange les in 1962. Awards include first place at 1963 Vista Del Mar Concours D'Elegance. Photographs and details on request. $2,900. Terence Alston, 1793 N. Beverly Glen Blvd., Los Angeles 24, Calif. Phone: 474-3458 or 747-6111.
1933 Rolls Royce Landau, black and yellow, 5 passenger coupe, Freestone and Webb Alum. body imported from original owner, 1964. Send $3.00 for color photos showing details. $5,000 firm. Jim Callaway, 210 W. Tujunga, Burbank, Calif.
1912 Huppmobile Touring completely restored. A real good tour car that goes lots of brass. $4,800. Will take pre 1915 motorcycle on trade. Ray Gibson, 12842 3rd. South, Seattle, Wash.
1932 Pierce Arrow. Four door Club Sedan, 8 cylinder, side mounts, trunk, interior reupholstered in imported material, tires excellent, bumpers rechromed, little mileage since en gine overhaul, ready to go anywhere at 60 mph. Asking $2,500 with well over $200 in extra parts. R. J. Hertell, 613 Florida, S. E. Albuquerque, New Mexico. 87108.
1925-1927 Series Dodge Sedan in very good condition, motor #C847242. Good tires, nice upholstery, solid car, steel body, all glass in place, Texas Safety Sticker, $595. Wallace Smith, 10002 N. Lamar Blvd., Austin, Texas. 78753. Phone: 512-H05 7272.
Detroit Electric, 11,000 actual miles, beautiful condition, no battery, $3,000. Also 1924 Rolls Royce convertible, $5,000. 1915 Dodge Taxi Touring, $1,295, 1914 Buick Touring, $1,595. 1932 Ford V-8 convertible with German Duetch coach work, $2,495. 1953 Cadillac Eldorado supercharged conver tible (cost $30,000) $3,000. James H. Southard, Box 627, Marshfield, Wisconsin.
1913 Studebaker Touring Model 25. Mint restoration from frame up. National AACA Senior Award Winner 1965. Very reliable tour car with about 1500 total mileage. $5,000. Clinton Gurnee, 62 Shady Oaks Drive, Watsonville, Calif.
1931 Chrysler 6 Roadster is regretfully offered for sale. Near perfect condition. Top performance on the road. Enough spares for another thirty-five years. $4,000 or near offer. Bob Allen, 6115 Town Hill Lane, Dallas, Texas. 75214. Phone: 214- EM8-4550- 50 SERVICE DIRECTORY ooooooooooooo G A S K E T S ENGINE o 0o0~0o0 o FOR ALL ENGINES ~ MADE TO ORDER Custom-made copper and asbestos cylinder head, manifold and ex Valves - Valve Guides - Valve Springs - Piston Pins - Pin haust gaskets for all makes and models of antique, foreign, racing, Bushings - A ll oy Pistons - Piston Rings - King Bolts and Bushings marine, Diesel and industrial equipment. Will need old gasket or pattern for sample. ALSO IN ANY OVERS IZE We have available an assortment of new stock head and manifold gaskets for cars 1916 to 1948. State your needs; give make, model, year of car, etc. 1814 SO. GRAND AVENUE HEAD GASKET COMPANY PHONE R l . 8·2188 LOS ANGELES 15, CALIF. C/0 Fred Stelli'!!l 465 Bryant Street Formerly Handy Andy Specialty Co. San Francisco, California PHON< EXbrook 7·3111 PACKARD PARTS We have 132 Packard parts cars, years 1924 thru 1956, p lu s tons XIZEII/S AUTO TOP SHOP of new and used parts for most any model 6 thru 12. Send us Since 1896 your want lists, enclosing SAE for quotation. Have many welled fenders, grills, ornaments, hub caps, etc. PACKARD PARTS UNLIMITED Box 823, Groveland, Mass. Phone (617) 372-9912, after 7 PM SEAT COVERS ~fUtUtU ) R. M. CRAWFORD UPHOLSTERY ~·~, \ H \ H '• ~ \ · · ANTIQUE CARS ARE f \ . J ., .., FCOOJHtS OUR SPECIALTY! f f I f ~ 1IJ tl• ...... • ... Mail order booksellers to the world's motorists. Send for our free catalogue and drool over the finest selection of high quality books Phone BE 2-1248 on antiques, classics, sports cars, racing, etc. We have regular cus .. 544 lOth Ave. tomers in every state of the U.S.A. Herb Merkel Owner SAN DIEGO 1, CALIF. MARKEN LTD. - BENNETT ROAD - BR IGHTON • SUSSEX - ENGLAND
Po li shed Aluminum and •••••• PATTERNS FOR SALE •••••• Rubber Styles, COPIES OF AUTHENT IC PATTERNS FOR ANTIQUE CAR COSTUMES. Step Reproduced for All Cars $1 .SO and $2.00 each. Brand Names in Original WRITE FOR ILLUSTRATIONS TO: e Letter or Script Back Seat Drivers c/o Clara Cross FREE LITERATURE 33 N. Santa Barbara Plates e AUTO REPRODUCTIONS Mesa, Arizona 85201 Box 261 Concord, Calif. FOR SALE 1936 Rolls Royce 25/30 Saloon custom radio, heater, abso Model 'T' 1912 reporduction f enders, set of 4, never used, lutely like new throughout, one owner. $2,950 firm. Also 1930 $50. 1913 all brass 'T' carburetor, 1914 B & B-make offer. Rolls Royce P II, 2 seater roadster in excellent original con Pair Reo electric h eadlights, good s h ap e, nickle rimmed, dition, $4,600 not firm. This car still in England where I drove Tilt-Ray, both l enses unbroken, year unknown. Overall de it last August. Send for photos. Russell Westerby, 16 jupiter mension, 103/.". Make offer. All FOB h ere. Ronald ]. Putz, Ave., Chatham, Ontario, Canada. Phone: 354-4598. 1801 So. Warner, Bly City, Michigan. 48707.
1904 Olds (Replicka), $1, 150; 1922 GMC 1 ton truck, com One pair all brass headlights, Stoddard Dayton circa 09-10-11. pletely restored, $ 1, 150; 1928 A u s tin (English) Taxi Cab, Near perfect conditio.n. $150. 09-10-11 Flanders 20 radiator $1, 150; 1934 Ford fire truck, $1, 250; 1939 Cadillac 4 door with script. Steel shell gone, otherwise good. $130. FOB. sedan, deluxe body, $650; 1915 Model 'T' motor and trans Bill Eschbaugh,Rt. #2, Box # 187, Decatur, Ill. 62521. Phone: mission compl etely rebuilt, $250. Two Model 'A' motors ch eap. 217-864-3469. W. B. Wahnish, 801 E. Valley, San Gabriel, Calif. Phone: AT 4-9590. 1 931 Chevrolet 6 wheel sport roadster, drive anywhere. $1,250 or best offer. 1931 Chevrolet Cabrolet roadster, restorable, Bow l egged top for small car, iron and wood good, leather $350.00 or best offer (towable). L. W. Barber, Box #588, Okla and l eatherette fair, $150. Large Packard truck, 2 suit cases homa city, Oklahoma. and tan waterproof cover nice, $50. Chevrolet sportlight spot light, $25. Two double bucket seats similar to cover pictu re 1920-22 ? Essex roadster top and side c urtains. Sockets and HCCA Gazette, Volume 20, #1. Large Chrysler radiator shell bows like new. Covering original and very good condition early 1930 s, good. Self addressed envelope for answer. Bob with exception of rear curtain which is tom around windows. Claxton, 7404 Zuni, S.E., Albuquerque, New Mexico. Top has inside flaps to store side curtains. $65.00 FOB. L. L Stone, Rt. #2, Box #379, Portland, Oregon. 97231. One pair 1917 Ford kerosene side lights, one 32x4Y:> tire good for spare onl y. Want parts, pieces, and what have you for my 1932 Rolls Royce Phantom II Landaulet, restored, New tires, 1913 'T' chassis. Matt Betton, Box #724, Manhattan, Kansas. $3,700. 1927 Willys-Knight Sedan, Model 60, new paint, orig inal upholstery, 22,000 miles, $1,000. Both these cars can be 1926 Ford T. T. Truck, $800.00. 1912 Brush-Mint, $3000.00. delivered anywhere, anytime. Ron Wallis, 121 Main St. , Wat Ed Eisenberg, 50 Stratford Road, Rockville Centre, L.I., New ford, Ontario, Canada. P hone: 519-876-2777. York. Phone: 516- OR 8-3452. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 51 SERVICE DIRECTORY 1911 to 1927 Model ''T" Tops .,.e.,. Windshields FOR ANTIQUE CARS - BRASS & STEEL From our wide selection of authentic tubing, we can re Factory duplications ready for installation. produce most antique and classic windshields. Brass and Nickel Glass Setting Channel Original type grained vinyl material. YOUR BEST SOURCE FOR FlAT FAN BELTS AND HOOD LACING. Write for detailed information and prices Always an excellent stock of new Model "T" parts SEND 25¢ FOR CURRENT LISTING OF PARTS AND SERVICES ;4~ E. ;4de'UUJH XEN SO!ENSEN TOP SHOP 173 Hotchkiss Street- Jamestown, New York 38 N. Hill Avenue- Pasadena, California antique clothes FOR SALE: Antique clothing and accessori.es for HCC fun·ctwns. Suits. Dresses. Jewelry. P e tticoats . Parasols. Blouses. Feathers. Buttons and Trimmings. ANTIQUE BOXES WILL BE SENT ON CONSIGNMENT TO RESPONSIBLE PARTIES. MAGNETO 1626 ~o. 46!h St., MRs • EVELyN Doy E R Phoentx, Artzona REPAIR & When in Scottsdale, Arizona do visit "Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe" for all your Antique Clothing needs. 43 East First Avenue IPima Plaza) SALES Tel.: 947-3062 e l REWIND YOUR MAGNETO COILS PATTERN George H. Pounden OR OLD HEAD GASI\ET 1520 High School Road, Sebastopol, California PHONE 823-3824 ~~ !!'=~~ - ~ REQUIRED
* BRASS- BRASS -BRASS- BRASS COPPER·ASBESTOS HEAD GASKETS Shines better with SIMICHROME than any metal polish you ever used or your money back. Same is true for OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY chrome, nickel, aluminum, silver, dimes or dollars. 4 tubes $3.00 - 1J2 lb. can $2.50 P.P. §sket mfg. co. inc_319 W. 17th St. Richmond 9-4063 Los Angeles, 15 COMPETITION CHEMICALS-Box 141, Iowa Falls, Iowa FOR SALE Cars below all excellent condition, compl etley restored as 19 14 Tahis race car, $6,500. 1918 Cadillac 5 passenger tour, original, n ew paint and uphols t ery, running perfectly: 1923 complete, unrestored, $3,000. 1921 Chev. 490 2 door sedan, Dodge Sedan. Motor overhauled, $950? 1926 Chevrolet Ro a d nice shape , runs good, $1,800. 1929 Hudson 4 door sedan. ster. N ew top. Very rare , only two o thers known restored. Bidde and Smart custom body, $1,500. S. G. Reed, 3986 Alpha $ 1,300 ? 1928 Studebaker coupe. (Royal Victoria, Landau), St., San Diego 13, C a lif. Phone: 264-2537. $ 1, 500 ? J ay Hampel, Rt. # 1, Box 11260, Thousand Oaks, Calif. 9 1360. Model 'A' p a rts : Two 16 " wheels and tires and covers for s ide mounts. H eadlights, front seat cu s hion, and box of parts. Se ll About 1934 Dodge wood station wagon, body only, enclo sed, a ll ch eap. Mu st clear garage. Sam Conti, 2431 So. L owell St. , with rear fenders, good condition, n o rot. Always garaged. Santa Ana, Calif. $100 or a ny offer. 19 16 Stanley, l acking fenders, top, rear seat section, for $2,000, good boiler. Need 19 14- 19 Dodge, 1922 Ford "High Soy" Coupe. Completely restored including rear fenders, wheels, doors , top bows. J erry Me ixner, Route 2, new upholstery' top, tires, safety glass, paint, etc. $1,500 or Owatonna, Minnesota. best o ffe r. C. Gurnee , Jr., 62 Shady Oaks Dr., Watsonville , Calif. Phone: 408-724-9488. Stoddard Trans-Axle Trans. Fits 1911 Stoddard 30 or 1912 Savoy, $7 5. 19 12 Hup gas tank, model 30. Two 26T cowl gas One good s ingle twist standard bulb h orn with fittings, $25. tanks. 20 ' s Che·v. front end, like T hub caps. 1914 'T' tail 4 b rass reproduction Ford hub caps, $7.00 p er set. One 1913-14 light E & ], less fount, burner, real good. SASE. Max Pottle, steering column brass quadrant, $20. One 1919-25 rear spare Rt. Il l , 119 Q Riven Rd., Oakdale, Calif. tire carri er blasted and primed, $10. Wa nt to swap H e inze coil box parts. Have 2 complete boxes, no lids. Nee d a good lid, Brass top and s ide curtain fastene rs. Dodge radi ator orna key, and coils . Dave Baker, Bad Axe, Mi ch. ment. 1931-32 Chevy Eagle, antique ]arks. Model 'T' brass and 1928 Ch evy iron spare tire locks. Chevrolet Stone Gua rd. Ford V8 rotors 1932-35 and 1937-41, 85¢. Dis t. cap a nd cover Loco air gauge. V8 Ford valves. Brass tire pump. 1910- 11 1932-35, $1.50. Coil with cond., 1937-41, $4. 25. #1000 bulbs the Horseless Age magazines. Fl.p top r adi ator cap. Winged $3.00 per box of 10. Carter carb. kits for 1936 T erraplane " 6" man mots meter ornament. H. C. S. dash air pump. Flint steering with 309S carb. also 1936 Olds " 6 " with 327S carb., $4.00. wh eel. Samuel L evy, 88-08 32nd. Ave., J ackson H ei ghts 69, Prices include postage. U.S. funds. R. Percy, 2 424 West 13th. New York. Ave., V an couver, 9, Britis h Columbia. 52 SERVICE DIRECTORY NEW WOOD TOP BOWS JULIAN ECCLES Sizes to fit most roadsters and touring cars. 46-48-50-52-54-56-58-60 inches, inside diameter measurement. 1 by 1 'h inches girth 606 S. 6th P.O. Box E measurement. KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON 97601 $4.00 Ea. FOB Phone day: 884-8124 Nite: 882-3303 Send check with order KIRKLAND ENTE~PRISES, P.O. Box 174, Union City, Tennessee Area Code 503 Ne·w & Used $5.75 Cut Out Pedals $7.50 "BRASS MAKER" Antique & Classic Tires Expert Machine Work - Caps - Parts - Pumps - Etc. e Write LYSLE E. MUTH, 504 Ocean View Ave., P.J.A. DENMAN DUNLOP FIRESTONE Santa Cruz, California 95062. ••• TERMS AVAILABLE •••
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3 acres of antique cars and parts. Specializing in Packard, Pierce Arrow, Lincoln and Cadillac. Send list of requirements to Club for collectors of literature. 18 years old. Membership premium this year, 1921 Mercer reprint. Reprints, photos, exchange of old Atlantic Auto Parts literature. 19020 Anelo Street, Gardena, California Membership information, AEI, Box 415G, MI. Clemens, Mich. FOR SALE Gazettes: Vol. 13, Numbers 1, 3, 4; Vol. 16, Numbers 5, 6; 1920 Buick roadster frame, $15. 1930 Model 'A' frame, $10. Vol. 17, Numbers 2, 3; Vol. 18, Numbers 2, 3, 4, 6; Vol. 20, Two split rims, 23", 31x4, $4. each, 2 split rims, 24", 32x4, Number 4; Vol. 21, Number 2; Vol. 22, Numbers 1, 2; Vol. 23, $4. each, 1 Model 'A' Ford 1930 headlight cover, $10. Ship- Numbers 1, 3; Vol. 24, Numbers 2, 3, 4, 6. $1.00 each, post ping costs extra. Alfred L. Fifield, 3982 Edwards Ave., Oak- paid. Lorin Tryon, 325 Harbor Way, South San Francisco, Calif. l and, Calif. 9460 5. Phone: 632-0398. 94080. Munsey magazines odd issues 1899 through 1909. Loaded with 1910 Haynes large brass touring.· Right hand drive. Excellent turn of the century automobile, carriage, bicycle, phonograph throughout. $4,500. 1938 V-16 Cadillac 7 passenger limo sine. and firearms advertisin g. Size 9Y,x6Y,x7 / 16. $6.00 each post Like new. Has partician between front and rear, sidemounts, paid. Will trade fo r pre 1930 radiator e mblems; one magazine etc., $3,600. Low original mileage. 1913 International High one emblem. Charles MacLeod, 503 Normandy, Royal Oak, wheeler. Two seater with top. Excellent, $1,600. 1916 Buick Michigan. touring, excellent, $1,700. Dave Levin, 2835 w. North Shore, Chicago, Illinois. 60645. 1938 Lincoln Zepher, nice, $395; 19 24 Dodge roadster, $395; 1931 Chevrolet pickup, $150; 1933 Am. Austin roadster needs 1929 Buick 2 dr. partially r<':stored, and 1937 Chrysler airflow motor and radiator, $395; 1930 Studebaker chopped, $85; 1933 coupe, unrestored. $175.00 each or both for $300. Many used Strt. 8 Buick sedan, $150; two 1929 Harley Davidson cycles, Jeepster parts; also set new white vinyl side curtains, $35. $95; 1936 4 dr. convertable, $475; 1940 4 dr. convertabl e Mer Larry Quirk, DDS, 2427 N. Alvemon, Tucson, Ariz. c ury, $450. Trade for other cars also. Tom Donahue, Scotts bluff, Nebraska. Manuals: Nash, Terraplane, 22/23 Stanley Steamer, Overland, etc. Some truck manuals and illustrated parts books, includ 1921 Model 'T' touring. Partially restored rebuilt engine; ing R eo, Pierce-Arrow X-4 & Lozier type 84 cars. MoToR Show gen erator, starter rebuilt. Upholstered. Have bows, but no numbers, 1933 to 1944. Books by Page, Wri ght, Aude l , Hobbs, c loth top. Complete, except minor body work and paint. $475. Consoliver. I want DORT material. Court Myers, 133 Grant, George E. Rogers, 131 No. Deluth, Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Replaceable Legaute magnifying l enses for antique car s, sizes New and use Trippe lights. 32-39 Packard Cormorants, flying 8\1," and 8W' diameters. Price $2.95 pair plus postage. We i ght ladies, twelve hub cap medallions. Rolls Royce Ladies. Tom 4 lbs. George M. Wil son, 7707 Glen Alta, Houston, Texas. Dunaway, Box 1774-A, Anderson, S. C. 29621. 77017.
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IXCHANGI8 MU8T MilT OUR Rlli!IUILDING 8TANDARD8 MODEL T No Open Volve En1ines MODEL A $159.95 P'LU&E~~~u6'tNCiCi~M~;~~1E.fs"H_.!l~T,.OAY& $159.95 • JAHIII'S ALUMINUM PISTONS e GRANT RINGS e ALL STEEL VALVES e DIESEL BABBITT Jahns has been making custom pistons for the automotive industry practically from T and A PARTS GENEVA 84955 Closed Tuesdays the time the first horseless carriage was introduced. If you have a piston problem that's keeping your antique in the garage, don't despair. Write, wire, or phone our F:o & JIM'S ~ARAGE factory. 3714 E. 4th St. JIM ROSS Lo11g Beach 14, .Calif. 2662 lacy Street los Angeles 31 , California CApitol 5-8177
'{/ CARBIDE HEADLIGHT BURNER TIPS 1 year year Old Motor, monthly ------$10.00 Cars & Parts (advertising) Veteran & Vintage, monthly 6.00 monthly ------3.00 Correct for most cars. Makes a perfect restoration Bugantics (Bugattil, Reflector IA&CCC of complete. $1.35 each plus 25c parcel post. quarterly ------3.50 Canada) bi-monthly ____ 6.00 Jaguar Driver, monthly ____ 4.50 Style Auto, quarterly ------24.00 DIXIE GUN WORKS, Inc., UNION CITY, TENN. 38261. Vintage Motor Cycle, Antique Automobile, monthly ------5.60 bi-monthly ------5.00 0 0 Automobile Quarterly ------21 .00 Light Steam Power (steam 0 Motor Revue (German but cars) bi-monthly ------4.00 0 8 with English translation( 0 LA 'DIES 0 8 quarterly ------6.00 0 FOR SALE: "ANTIQUE CLOTHES MANUAL" 0 0 0 0 By Newport Beach Regional Group 0 e ENGLISH IMPORTS, 3844/HG2 Thomas Avenue South, 0 Information on styles, Basic Wardrobe, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55410 0 Accessories, Hats, etc. from 1 900-1930 8· 8 8 WHEELS WHEELS 0 $2.00 GRABER & SONS - WHEELWRIGHTS 8 Make checks payable to VIVIAN PADDOCK § Wooden wheels restored or made to your spec 0 1204 E. Walnut- Orange, California 92667 0 ifications and samples - only hickory used. The deadline for new or revised commercial advertising copy for the Coach work also available. Mailing Address: July-August issue is JUNE FIRST. For the September-October i'ssue it is AUGUST FIRST. Mail copy to Herb Prentice, 9734 Garnish Drive, 5320 Thornburn St., Los Angeles, Calif. 90045 Downey, California. Do not send Classified ads to this address. FOR SALE Elgin 8 day clock from late 20 model Studebaker. Watch move- 1918 Buick touring windshield and headlights, 1921 Ford coupe ment looks like new but needs main spring. $15.00 plus post- windshield frames, two 3S"x5" wheels and tires, 1937 La- age a nd insurance. Book by Homan-"Self Propelled Vehicles" Salle radiator, engine, transmission, 1929 Chev. transmission, published by Audet & Co., 5th. edition. $10.00 p.p. It is in Muncie transmission for Model 'T' Ford, Harley Davidson good condition. Frank J. Juelke, Rt. #2, Holtou, Kansas. headlight (about 1924). George Plummer, Rt. #1, Box #132, Warrenton, Oregon. Mint chrome radiator shell for high 'T' radiator, $25; pair 1917-25 'T' head lights, complete, $25; (2) high rad., $27.50; Need a project? 1925 Hispano-Suiza type H6B Phaeton, with 'A' wheels, 2 1", 19", nice, some with tires, $5.00 up; chas hard to get parts, flyin g stor.k mascot, radiator badge, radiator sis 1922, $50; new one man top for 1922 touring, $85; 'T' script, etc. Disassembled for inspection. Classic Milion-Guiet wood wheels, 21". Also set of clinchers, large drums, some body with top bows and windshield frame, restorable or good with usuable tire. 19 14 steering column for 'T', including for pattertL Will sell complete car only. $1,000. Ed Hawtrey, wheel, $40. Other misc. parts and tools, oil cans, pliers, all 5842 2nd. Ave., Sacramento, Calif. 95817. script, write, no phone. Earl Houston, Rt. #1, Box # 197, Ri pon, Calif. 95366. 1934 Rolls Royce, 20-25 hp model, chassis #GRC-69, 7 pas senger limousine, body by Hooper, owner's manual included. 1927 Stutz 4 door Brohan motor #85433, ser. /1825-449. Car $1,400. Tim W. Elder, 1108 Maple Ave., Downers Grove, Ill. has never been rebuilt and is about 97%complete andoriginal. 60515. Phme: 3 12-964-2254. Three years ago engine froze and cracked the bl ock (outside only). Have had car 13 yrs. and lost interest. Would like to 1924 Cadillac, V-8, 63F1417, original mechanical and running sell for $600 or trade for smaller touring or roadster. David condition, back end of 4 door body removed, original paint H. Gi sh, 250 4 Beverley Dr., Green ville, Texas. on cab, fenders, hood. Clymer windshield light, tires smooth, runs like Swiss watch, Not a parts car, just needs a body and 1930 Packard Std. 8 converted to pickup, $250. John Dani a home . Asking $9 SO. Courtney E. Cook, 5240 W. Brown Pl., court, Bra:::kenridge, Minn. Denver, (blorado. 80227. Phone: 303-985-4946.
7: 00x21 good to very good condition black wall tires. Asking 19 27 Packard 6 Opera Coupe. 132" W.B. Some restoration done, $15-$25 each plus shipping. Also selling tubes, flaps, rims, complete. $600. 19 36 Chrysler Imperial Airflow. Sound original wheels etc. 1926-27 Cadillac parts for sal e. Let me know condition. Needs paint, $350. Will trade for restored car. Need what you need. Joel Feldman, 3256 Butler Ave., Los Angeles, bumperettes for 1932 Cadillac V-12. Delbert Pantel, 179A Calif. 90066. Phone: 837-027 3. Cohasset Lane, Chico, Ollif. 54
FOR SALE 1912 Maxwell Mascottie roadster, unrestored-$1,SOO. 191S New Bosch magneto coils, 6-12 volt, 1909- 12 era, $7. SO. Speed Seagrave pumper, runs well, $1,000. 1923 Buick 4 cyl. coupe, ometers, 3%" round face, 0-60 or 0-80 mph, $4.00. Tachome 8 S% restored, $7 SO. 1927 LaSalle sports roadster, disassem ters, 3'/.'' face, 3000 rpm, 3%" round face, 3SOO or 4000 rpm, bled but good shape, $800. 1948 MG-TC roadster, beautiful, $4.00. I would like a bid on about 600 of these instruments. $1,7SO. 1916 Maxwell parts, for the lot, $7S. Numerous brass Include postage, money back guarantee. R. Knies, 1S Welling lamps and early folding seat rear deck. David Ault, 7019 ton Rd., Greenvale, L. I., N. Y. 11S48. Alden Rd., Baltimore, Md. 21208. 1914 Buick, B-25 touring. Original family car. Completely 1911 Brush, restored in 196S and a trophy winner every time. overhauled. Original leathe r. Permanent HCC licence. Parts This car is complete in every detail, $3,7 SO. Will send picture catalog, sal es bulletin. Factory picture and description in upon request. Arnold Arledge, Box #1S7, Burlington, Iowa. frame. Asking $3,200. Also have for sale custom built car S2602. Phone: 7S4-7S23. trailor, all steel. Like new. Extra wheel f!!1d tire. ] ohn Nesrig, Box # 10S4, Yakima, Wa s h . Phone Selah: MY 7-7979. 19S4 Nash Healey roadster in excellent condition. New tan top and side curtains. New genuine black leather upholstery. 1913 Model 'T' touring, new top and interior, excellent body Body is jet black. Picture on request. Price $1,200. Dean and mechanical condition, $1,7SO. Will take 1931 Chrysler Russell, 17 Crescent Rd., Fairport, New York. 144SO. convertable coupe on trade. Lewi s H. Haines, R. R. #S, Box #361, Logansport, Indiana. 1908-09 2 cylinder Reo, motor and serial #19492, $3,000. Was restored in 19S1, runs good but needs going over again to be Handmade lingerie hats of em broidered doilies or fine lace, a point winner. Had new upholstery in 19S1, still good. Needs $20.00 post paid. Mrs. Frank Deakin, 4201 E. Catalina Dr., tires. Owen Hartley, 174S Hamiel Dr., Las Cruces, New Mex Phoenix, Arizona. 8SO 18. ico. 88001. Phone: SOS-524-8139. New fenders: 1928-31 Buick, 1926-30 Chrysler, 1929-30 Dodge 1916 Olds Model 43 frame, springs, rear end, drive shaft, and trucks, 1928-31 Essex, 1926-31 Hudson, 1927-31 Oakland, some front axle parts. Leo Gay, 2511 Allanjay Rd., Glendale 1928-30 Oldsmobile, 1928-32 Nash, 1928-30 Pontiac, 1929-30 8, Calif. Plymouth, 1926-31 Overland, Willys, W-K, Whippet, 1928-31 Studebaker and some without identity, SAE, please. Murray Brass Ford Roadster, immaculately restored, extra 1915 block Seldon, 28846 Eddy Rd., Wickliffe, Ohio. 44092. rebored and with pistons, has standard rear end now, but re built Ruxstell goes with it, brand new tir~s that haven't run 1929 Chevrolet, 6 cyl. 4 door sedan. Rough but restorable. a mile. All for $1,900.00, firm. Also have a lead ,on a 4 cyl Complete. $99.00. Francis]. White, Box #269, Winters, Calif. inder Saxon engine; glad to pass it on to anyone that needs it. Clarence Kay, 553 Fir Lane, Los Alto, Calif. 1913 Reo chassis, excellent condition. Has motor, radior, running boards, splash aprons and good set of wheels, also 1925 Pierce-Arrow, series 80. 7 passenger limousine, par extra transmission and differential plus other parts, $3SO.OO. tially restored, motor overhauled. New safety glass. $1,600. ] ames ] . Shelton, 10848 Oakton Way, Rancho Cordova, Calif. William M. Cryan, 32 Pinevale Court, Cheektowaga 2S, N. Y. Bare chassis, unknown, with Weston Mott front and rear' axles. 1911 Kissel Kar, .$5,000. 00, lots of brass. B. Peer, 1180 Bru Full elliptic scroll springs rear, semi-elliptic on front. 108" cito Ave., Los Altos, Calif. 94022. Phone: 961-5038. wheelbase, right hand drive with 4 good 27" clincher wheels. $100. About 1907-10. I have die to stamp the flanges for early FrontHassler, small type, 'T', $10.00; hood and radiator leath radiators-2" O.D.x.62S hole corrugated edge. Write for par er winter front with lined piling and radiator flap, 'T', $10.00; ticulars. Chris Reimuller, 9S09 Oak Glen Rd. , Cherry Valley, Chilton Automobile Directory, Yr. 1919, $5.00; genuine Ford Calif. 9 2223. Manual, Yr. 1914, $10.00; four new fenders for Queen car, $80.00. All freight items packing extra. Pictures SO cents 1908 Reo 2 cyl. touring, $6SO. 1909 Reo 1 cyl. truck, $SOO. each. All items FOB. Michael Scungio, 11 Amalia Ave., Crans 1910 Ford chassis near complete, good, E & ] lamps, $SOO. ton, Rhode Island, 02910. 1912 Culver cycle car 1 cyl., $SOO. 191S American LaFrance 4 cyl. pumper, $1,000. Alan Clendenen, 2SO .Poppy, Corona 1929 McLaughlin Buick Town Sedan, original power train, del Mar, Calif. Phone: 714-673-2027. and body upholstery. Reliable and good performer, go any where. You will like this one. 9S% restored. $2,900 firm. Also 191S Buick roadster, Model C-36, $1,SOO. 1909 Reo 2 cylinder spare parts. Will not ship. 1901 McLaughlin horse drawn buggy touring with detachable tunno with some extra parts, $1,SOO. 9S% restored. Complete. Canadian built. Will not ship. $900.00 Set of Houk 2S" wire wheels with hubs and caps, $1SO. Fred firm. One pair· of early Benz carriage lamps, candle type. Hoch, 207 S. Pine Ave., Maple Shade, New Jersey. Phone: Good original condition. Once belonged to the Duke of Bed 609-663-7670. ford, Woburn Abbey in England. Lamps have much history. $1SO.OO firm. Robert A. Witthames, S09 Glengarry Ave. , Toronto 1918 Harley Davidson motorcycle, S,OOO original miles. Com 12, Ontario, Canada. plete and easy to restore, $300.00 crated FOB. Thomas O'Con nor, 12S Marlboro Road, Delmar, N. Y. 1924 Oakland Six Touring, needs restoring, good motor, no top bows, seats, or half of left front fender. $1SO.OO or best 1937 Buick Limited, 7 passenger limousine in excellent orig offer. SAE. Arnold Fletcher, 6931 Leighton, Lincoln, Nebr. inal condition. Dual sidemounts. Drive anywhere at 70. $7SO. Also 1936 Cord 810 sedan, parts car, approximately 6S% com 1927 'T' Roadster complete wire wheels, bumpers and top plete. $3SO. Robert D. Inskeep, 620 West LaPlata, Farmington, bows, runs. $1,000. High radiator, $27. SO. Two wire wheels New Mexico. 87401. and hubs for 'T' 1926- 27, $40. One chrome radiator shell, new, $2S. Several 'T' head lights complete lenses and rims, 1919-2S Ford 'T' coil boxes, mint, $12. SO. One 16" Ford 'T' chrome and brass. 1914-1S steering assemble, $40.00, in steering wheel, like new, $10. Original brass spider for early cluding wood small wheel. 1928- 29 head lights, complete set 'T' steering wheel, $12.SO. Original radiator caps Ford 'T', of two, $30. Set of 2 steel brake shoes, 191S-2S. One 1928 $2. SO. Lots of Ford 'T' black parts. 1936 Ford pickup, all early A. R. wheel, $10.00, mint condition. 1926 'T' hood and there, all original, $100. Harry L. Blodgett, Sr. , 814 Cotton windshield for close body. Earl Houston, Rt. #1, Box #197 wood, Rt. #3, Deer Lodge, Montana. S9722. Ripon, Calif. 9S366.
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FOR SALE Hupmobile 1914 Model "H" touring. Excellently restored. No expense spared in putting this car in top mechanical con dition. Easy riding and good performing tour car. Complete with h eavy duty trailer. Over $3,000 invested but must sell. Will take best offer over $2,000. Carl Estep, 2120 Orwood St., Stockton, Calif. 95205.
1951Mercedes 170 S. 4 cylinder, convertible top; body, engine, upholstery and top in excellent condition. Intend to tour U.S.A. next s ummer and l eave behind car in U.S.A. at $2,500. M. Lips, 62 Grotestraat, Drunen, Netherlands. SWAP 1917 Premier, 7 passenger touring. Very large fast tourer, push button transmission (can be shifted manually), large 6 cylinder a luminum engine, l eath er seats. Excellent condition. This is the only known 1917 Premier. Please send picture and price of your car. Sell or trade. Marvin Berry, 8035 Way farer, Houston, Texas. 77034. Phone: 713-MI 9-2000.
Brass l amps-have Westchester, Solar, Castle, E & ], C. M. Hall, Dietz and others for one cylinder Cadillac frame, chas sis or what have you. Prefer 1905 era but interested in any year. If lamps don't interest you, how about cash? Walter Fertig, 355 Glencrest Dr., Solana Beach, Calif. 92075. FOR SALE SWAP 1926 Model 'T' Ford roadster. N ew upholstery, wire wheels, Will trade a 28" Firestone rim with retainer rings and spiit bosch ignition, water pump, Ruxtell rear end. $650. Ronald ring for a 25" Firestone rim with retainer rings and split ring. B. McClis h, Box #664, Chester, Calif. 96020. Max E. Toby, 2265 Ocean Ave., San Francisco, Calif. 94127.
Extra copy of Tucker-Book. cost over $5.00, $4.00 post paid. H ave quantity of early car ads, particularly Locomobile, Pierce 16 hrs. reading, photos, names, etc. Pub. 1960. w. B. Hamlin, Arrow, Lafayette, Studebaker, White , Willys-Knight, etc. Would 229 E. Rosewood Ct., Ontario, Calif. 91762. like to s wap for Rolls-Royce and Packard ads and pictures. Need nickle Packard radiator script for my recently restored 1915 ? Pierce-Arrow Model 38 touring. 95'7o complete. Chassis 19 16 P ackard twin six. Bill Dawn, 104 Mayflower .Rd., Knox restored. Engine #35 167. $3,750. Disassembled. E. 0. Butzke , ville, Tenn. 2502 Van Wi ck St., Inglewood, Calif. Phone: PL 5-3242. 1928 Ford front fender braces and running board braces, $20. Heavy duty tandem axle au to trailer, with springs, electric 19 29 Buick radiator and shell, $35.00 or trade above fo~ new brakes, n ew 6 ply tires, hauls small or large. Complete ready 'T' motor or rear end parts. 1926 'T' tail gate complete, trade to go. $525. consider trade for antique auto or 8N Ford or only for new 1927 nic kel radiator s hell or good head lights s imilar tractor. Also want 27 olds parts and literature. Paul and bar. Marvin Ray, 4 242 Mt. View, Las Vegas, Nevada. R. King, Cedarcroft Rd. , Kennett Square, Penna. 19348. All new old stock parts. Sets of pistons for Chevrolet 19 37 to 1906 Black runabout. 95% restored. Everything new with little 1940, Plymouth 1933 to 1941, La Salle 1934-36, Packard 6 l eft to do. $2,600. 1929 Packard ei ght sedan. Twin mounts, 1937, Plus odd ones for Olds 1936 6 and 8, Nash and Lafay and low actual miles. Mint original, but new professional paint. ette 1934-36, Buick 1934-37 Model 40 and 1937 60, some GMC $2,000. 1914 Overland roadster, good ori ginal. $ 1,500. Others. trucks. 700 valves mostly in the 1920's. Stamped envelope Send 50¢ and stamped envelope for information and pictures with wants and offers. I want old Motor magazines. C. G. Par of any car. Art Burrichter, 2925 Cadillac Drive, Cedar Falls, menter, Turnpike Ro a d, We stminster, Mass. 01473. Iowa. Sets of seven beautiful colored picture post cards of antique 1917 Ford Model 'T' touring. Completely restored and running. a utomobil es, 1908 Packard, 1913 Marmon, 1908 Maxwell, 1906 Upholstery and tires like new. You can drive it away! $1,200 Winto n, 19 14 Ford, 1905 International and 1912 Buick. Would cash. Stuart C. Willoughby, Box 790, Willcox, Arizona. 85643. like to exchange for other sets of post cards, books, pictures, copies of the Gazette or any literature on Antique Automo One each in Arizona: 1928 Essex Coach; 1926 Ford Sedan; biles. Bert Buckler, 6593 Ste.' Therese Rd., Chambly Bassin, 193 1 Willys Sedan, M. D. Ruff, 333 W. Granada Ct., Ontario, Quebec, Canada. Calif. Phone: 984-8448. WANTED 1956 Mercedes 300 SL Gull Win g Coupe, excellent running Information-Who can date a Hupmobile? Serial No. 6645, En· and driving condition. 10 coat l acquer painted this winter, gine No. 4401. L. R. Wampole, 9123 s. E. Hood St., Clackamas, nice original blue leather interior, a rarety at only $4,400. Oregon. 97015. Will trade on large Packard or Cadillac Touring or Roadster 29-32. Photos 50¢ each. C. E. Burke, P.O. Box 175, Mailtand Magneto and support bracket for 1905, Model 15, 2 cylinder Fla. 32751. Overland. Also quart size vacuum tank for 1918 Mode l 490, 4 cylinder Overland. Kaiser J eep Corporation, 940 N. Cove Kingston 4 cylinder coil box with buzzer, ori ginal key in swi tch. Blvd., Toledo, Ohio. 4360 1. l 'h" exhaust cut out, n ew. Ford 'T' speedometer, needs re pairing. Packard motormeter, golden airplane medallion, orig For 1931 Model 'A' Express Delivery. Both doors in restor ingl hinge cap. New 'T' Ford truck hub caps. Fronty Ford abl e condition. Will buy both or have Model 'T' or 'A' parts head gasket new. Don S. Patterson, Rt. Ill, Box /1248, Ta to trade. J. H. Hunter, 2851 Wi ard St., Klamath Falls, Oregon. vares, Fla. 97601. Phone: 882-3862. 56 WANTED Delco Model 56, starter-generator, needed for 4 cylinder buick, 1926 'T' Touring in good restorable condition. Would prefer Model C24, C25, 1914, or 1915. Also need speedometer cable, car to be within 1, 000 miles of Utah. John Linebaugh, 1299 with front wheel swivel unit. These parts required to com· N. 300 West, Provo, Utah. plete restoration, will pay cash or trade other car parts. Don Ellwyn, 2379 Panorama or., North Vancouver, British Columbia. Touring top, Kellog compressor and what have you for a 1924 Marmon 7 passenger touring. Send sketch and measurements 1928-40 Ford: New original fenders, grills, runningboards, for top. Thomas O'Connor, 125 Marlboro Road, Delmar, N. Y. trim, etc. Also lo mileage 1928-40 autos. "Gus" Garton, 5th. & Vine, Millville, New J~rsey. Phone: 609-825-2011. Complete set of top bows and irons for 1929 Packard Standard 8, 7 passenger touring. Also head lights for same car. Also For 1922 Series 9B Franklin: 9 inch head lamp lenses. Com tail lights for 1929 Stutz Black Hawk sedan. Carl Mullin, 114 plete one man touring top for Franklin or one that can be a Hill grove ori ve, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. dapted. What have you? Chain sprocket and chain for N. E . starter generator. Henry J. Solesbee, 628 Prospect Ave., Pet For 1913 Ford Phaeton: 2 new original front fenders, 2 new aluma, Calif. 94952. original rear fenders, 2 new original running boards. Rear view mirror bracket for 1931 Ford roadster. Charles A. Smith, 1912 Flanders differentii!l. Good shape. To include housings, 2410 Vernon St., North Kansas City 16, Mo. axles, bearings and bearing sleeves. S. Liftchild, 8611 Green· back Lane, Orangevale, Calif. 95662. A . 1927 Chevrolet Cabrolet, soft top coupe-rumble seat, disk wheels, and round pipe type bumpers. Send picture, condition 1946-48 Chrysler Town and Country Custom Club Coupe (hard and price. A. M. Dorey, Belding, Michigan. top). Must be clean, solid and complete. Please give complete description photo and price. Other years and body styles con For 1916-18? Denby truck: Gas tank, steering wheel, right sidered. Also 1940-50 Chrysler Corp. literature. F. G. Burton, front wheel, any pictures, information, literature. Larry Skel Claresholm, Alberta, Canada. lenger, Ukiah, Oregon.
Model 'A' or 'T' Ford in running and restorable condition. Will Photos of two cylinder Autocar trucks-any catalogs of same consider any car, roadster pickup, or 'T' Truck. Must be with with photographs. James Rudden, 400 So. Eliseo, San Rafael, in 100 miles of Pittsburgh. Give description or send photo and Calif. price. Fred Taverner, 214 Sunridge Rd., Pittsburgh, Pa. 15238. For 1924 Marmon sedan: Parking lamps, tail light, complete Two back issues of the H.C.C. Gazzette: Vol. 23, No. 6, Nov. instrument panel or any part, motormeter, 4 hood catches, front Dec. 1961, and vol. 24, No. 1, Jan.-Feb. 1962. Need infor bumper emblem, dome light, carburetor mixture control, out mation in them desperately! L. B. Langguth, 2635 Cecelia side door handle, Hall headlight rim, windshield wiper motor, Ave., Brentwood, Mo. 63144. set of breaker points, Manual. C. W. Teeters, 3613 West State Ave., Phoenix, Arizona. 1909-10 'T' parts, Jno. w. Brown brass carbide generator, Brown Model #15 headlights, #60 sidelights, #75 tail lights For 1928 Plymouth roadster: Cylinder head, intake manifold, (or parts). Early low head with just the word 'Ford'. Fig. '8' rear shocks, rumble seat cushions, running boards, 20" lock spring, hangers. Stewart-Clark dash clock. Pair EeJ 466 head· rings, side mount locks, steering wheel, rear bumper, would lights. Front or rear hubs (51h" dia.). "Ford Times" 1908- like to get wind wings and side mount morrors. J. B. Soderberg, 09-10. H. A. "Hoot" Gibson, Rt. 2, Box 451 D.D., Irving, Tex. 2156 Berkeley St., Salt Lake City, Utah.
J Duesenberg parts needed for restoration of Judkins limou For 1917 Dodge Touring: A Briggs Strattion ignition switch ·sine. Radiator shell shutters, bumpers, six 19" wheels, the with key, a crank hole cover, and hood, and good headlight 5 small instruments, complete engine assembly; interior and with nickle plated brass rim. Linas E. Dietz, 2114 Carolina exterior Judkins hardware, vanities, smoking sets, etc. Also St., Lawrence, Kansas. 66044. need 49Vl" LaGrande sweep panel hood, and pair of 1933 Au bum 12 b.mpers. Bill Pettit, Natural Bridge, Va. 24578. Oldsmobile 1915, 4 cylinder Model 42. Need closed driveshaft and tube. Rear and front wheels 25" demountable, 33x4 tires. For 1912 Cole, Model 30-40 Northway. Motor. Need a radiator, Good fenders, touring, hub caps and metal flarings. Instru water pump, and mantiels. Rig Petri, 805 Ford St., Burbank, ments. Radiator and shell. Top assembly. 2 valve covers. Calif. Manual, sales literature. All leads .and info from 1915 Olds owners appreciated. Jim Webb, 127 'C' St., San Rafael, Calif. Parts for one cyl. Cadillac. Have Cadillac parts to trade. Top 94901. for 1913 Ford Touring. Also rear cushion leather. L. C. Schroe der, Box 344, Le Mars, Iowa. 1927-1931 Bentley Speedster or Mercedes Speedster. Prefer 4 Passenger model, complete, in good running condition or For 1930 Ford station wagon: Full set of seats or springs, restored automobile. 1911 Cadillac Magneto base. Jack Tall tail light brackets, inside rear door handles, side curtain man, 12 Montgomery Place, Decatur, Ill. snaps. Wayne Atkinson, 213 N. 100 E., Orem, Utah. Radiator wanted, original, new old stock; for 1925 Model 'T' Cartercar wanted. Original parts, literature or information for. Ford. Ross Parkinson, 132 Webster Ave., Rexburg, Idaho. interested in all models. Cartercar was made in Detroit and 83440. Pontiac, Mich., 1906-1915. Give details or send srtapshot with reply. Wouid also appreciate leads to the above. D. A. 1915 to 1925 large model touring car in complete restored con Burkhartsmeier, 7315 Walnut, Orangevale, Calif. 95662. dition or perfect original. Need to purchase car before June 15th., for pickup on vacatio'n. Send pictures, condition and 1912 Model 34 Imperial chassis or complete car. condition price in first letter. All pictures returned. Emery G. Cochron, unimportant. Vernon L. Moeller, 2902 Center Point Rd., N. E. Des Moines Region HCC, 1820 62nd. St., Des Moines, Iowa. Cedar RaPids, Iowa. 52402. 50322.
Solar E-418 headlight or will buy matched pair for 1914 Case. For 1912 'T' roadster, 1 pair rear fenders, braces, switch for Were also u.sed on 1912 or later Cole automobiles. Also need coil box, steering column. Early front axle with steering parts. 28 inch Firestone demountable rims and a good used 37x4V2 A. E. Urzik, 4446 Bakman Ave., N. Hwd Calif. 91602. Phone: tire and tube for spare. A. W. Sorlien, Rt. #1, Caldwell, Idaho. PO. 3-4654. 83605. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 57 WANTED
Maxwell Carbide Generator #9, complete generator or top por Se ven passenger touring body for 1914 Haynes as pictured. tion. Marvin R. Young, 21515 Locust St., Matteson, Ill. 60443. Also require rear fenders or patterns, 27" rims and other mis Phone collect: 312-748-6563. cellaneous parts. Bob Ruf, 820 Cordone, Reno, Nevada.
1931 Cadillac V-16 Pheyton. will consider other 1930 or 1932 For 1911 Chalmers 30 Pony Tonneau or Roadster. Hood hard models in restored or good original condition. Will pay $50.00 ware. Sidelamp brackets, radiator, front fenders, coil box and for lead if purchase is affected. Send pictures and price. headlight forks. Please let me hear from you if you have these Everett C· Holmes, 2329 N. Bryant St., Portland, Oregon. or any other parts for this model car. Frank Hqgerhuis, Jr., 97217. 1168 Goffle Rd., Hawthorne, New Jersey. 07506.
For 1912 Type 61 V-8 Cadillac Touring: Right and left cyl 1912 Ford touring body, will consider one in any condition. inder blocks, both cylinder heads, gaskets, radiator cap, and Roly Weinhandl, Route 5, Spokane, Wash. any other miscellaneous .motor parts in good condition. Please state prices on each part or on whole lot, and if FOB or pre Want to buy Automobile Trade Journal magazines published paid. Would buy complete motor if price is reasonable. Ed A. be fore 1909. Want to buy Ford Times magazines published be Willis, Box #4684, Macon, Ga. 31208. fore 1908, 1909, 1910, 1911. Have duplicate issues Ford Times 1912-1917 to trade for wanted issues. Also want Ford News Big six Studebaker rear half body with doors, 1919 (prefer 1920-1938. Please send description and price to Virgil Scott, Calif.). Have quail, need 'A' radiator cap to fit. Need 'A' P.O. Box 339, Arlington, Texas. 76010. rear wheel puller. Want bad-set 'T' offset wheels for any year, such as used by clowns in parades. Also want to sell For 1909 Maxwell Model K Touring: Sidelamps, tail lamp, top or trade 1917 Cadillac engine, brass lights, radiator, front bows and hardware, mounting brackets for headlamps and wheels, tires, axle, etc. Answer all l e tters. w. A. Jacks, Box sidelamps, any literature, 25" Firestone rim with retainer #1237, Quincy, Calif. 95971. rings and split ring. Max E. Toby, 2265 Ocean Ave., San Fran cisco, Calif. 94127. For 1916 Overland Model 86 Cloverleaf Roadster: 26" lock rings, starter, generator, carburetor, windshield, instruments, Parts for 1933 Packard 8 Roadster: Fenders, windshield, ra switch on steering column. Copy of page describing car in diator shell, instruments, motor gaskets, mufflers and pipes The Automobile Journal, March 25, 1916. Top bows or any or any other parts. Lee Loecy, Orc hard Dr., Chardon, Ohio. thing you wish to sell. Orville Larsen, 4457 North 900 West, Ogden, Utah. 84404. Rear deck lid for 1926 Model 'T' Roadster. Ronald B. McClish, Box 664, Chester, Gllif. 96020. For 1910 Buick Model 17 Touring: Radiator cap, 40"x26" brass windshield, single twist brass bulb horn, complete fan, Large Stewart Warner speedometer gear #194; also, U bolts for brass side mounted carbide generator. Owners Manual or lit front spring 1913 Hupmobile. Philip S. Hunley, 5455 Woodcrest erature, or any other parts you may have for this car. Dick Drive, Salt Lake City 17, Utah. Silvera, 1016 E. 13th. St., Antioch, Calif. 94509. Want triple twist bulb horn with right hand mount Can be Engine for 1902 curved dash Olds. Any parts for one cylinder nickle or brass. Ralph Lockyea r, 2746 Ocean Beach Hwy., Cadillac. Top irons for 1913 Ford. L. C. Schroeder, Box #344, Longview, Washington. Phone: 206-423-0580. Le Marrs, Iowa.
For 1912 Stearns-Knight: Sleeve valves; inner ~.D., 4. 250"; 0. D., 4.560"; L, 13 3/32"; Outer I. D., 4. 563"; 0. D., 4.873"; L, 10 23/32". 27" artillery wheels, 2" s pokes, front 10 spokes, rear 12 spokes with 143,4 " dia. outer bolt circle all LUNKENHEIMER spokes. Vesta generator. Air pump, hand pump, pressure gauge and filter for gasoline supply. Arthur W. Aseltine, 2530 Haven EXHAUST PRESSURE crest Dr., Fallbrook, Calif. 92028. -~ REGULA TORS Phantom I Rolls Royce Tour car (Brougham), I cyl., buck board, double steam car, electric car, small brass fire engine. Maintain a contlantly ateady. un vuying preuure on fud tank . at all root •nt ·~dL Preat(.ne ca n be w:t from about '.- lb. up to 4 lb1. Ken Higgins, 270 Sunshine Acres Dr., Eugene, Oregon. Combination conden•ing cham br r and 1tra inrr poM;Ivclr prcHu· · • hom curyini along any dirt or moiSI•ue. For 1919 Peerless V-8 Mod-56 Touring: Center and rear main WRITE FOR Alfi'O AND MOTC> Il W).\"r llO MAKE YEAR CYLS. MODEL BODY LIST I NGS FOR TH I S DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE SENT TO BUICK. • 1909. • 2 ••• F. , Touring Guy Prentice NEEDED: Headlights, upper portion of rear seat. 9734 Garnish Drive Herb Prentice, 9734 Garnish Drive, Downey, Calif. Downey, Ca lifornia BUICK ...•••••• 1909. . 4 . •• 10 •• Runabout SEND DETAILS ON A POSTCARD. SUBM I T NO MORE NEEDED: Dash oil indicator, water pump, radiator and parts OFTEN THAN EVERY THIRD ISSUE, AND BE SURE TO car. INCLUDE YOUR CURRENT HCCA MEMBERSHIP CARD NUMBER. LIMIT NEEDS TO 20 WORDS. Tom Arens, 517 Bridle Road, Glenside, Pa. BUICK· • • • • •••• 1910. • 4 ••• 17 ••• Touring NEEDED: Radiator cap, 40x26 Brass Windshield, Single Twis t OLDSMOBILE .••••. 1903. . 1 ••• -. Curved Dash Brass Horn, Complete Fan, Owners Manual or Literature Brass NEEDED: Rear axle and housing assembly, tiller, transmission Carbide Generator, side mounted. ' parts, control levers, water pump and other parts. Dick Silvera, 1016 E . 13th St., Antioch, Calif. 94509 Plez Nance, 3609 Ingraham St., San Diego, California. BRUSH ••••••••• 1911 . • 1 ••• E-26 • Roadster OLDSMOBILE •••••• 1914 .• 6 ••• 54 ••• Touring NEEDED: Engine parts, dash oiler, switch coil, seat, wind NEEDED: Parts book or copy of same. shield, radiator cap, any information on roadster body. Forrest M. Record, 163 N. Carson Rd., Beverly Hills, Calif. Quinton 0. Coker, 3647 Washburn sf., Fort Worth, Texas 76107 90211. CADILLAC ••.•••• 1922 •• V-8 ••. 61 . . Touring OLDSMOBILE •.•••. 1915. • 4 .•• 42 •••Touring NEEDED: Right and left cylinder blocks, both cylinder heads, NEEDED: Sales literature-manual. Drive shaft and tube 33x4, gaskets, radiator cap, and other miscellaneous motor parts. 25" tires and wheels. Hubcaps, flarings, instruments. Ed A. Willis, P. 0. Box 4684, Macon, Georgia. Jim Webb, 127 'C' Street, San Rafael, Calif. 94901. CHEVROLET ••..•• 1930 •. 6 .•• - .. 4 Dr. Sedan ORIENT •••••.•.• 1906. • 1 • • • - •. Buckboard NEEDED: Front bumper, windshield riser assembly, door NEEDED: Owners manual, parts book, sales catalog, specifica mouldings (Aluminum), winged head radiator cap, long shank tions, pictures, any information. crank. Mike Gustafson, 2346 J. Street, Eureka, Calif. Ron Brown, 1204 2nd Ave., Gold Hill, Oregon. OVERLAND ••••••• 1913 •• 4 ... 69T ••. Lim. COLBY CAR. • • • • • 1911 •• 4 ••• - • • Raceabout NEEDED: A pair of good rear wheels 33 x 4. Also the original NEEDED: Any literature, two 28" Baker rims, two nameplates carburetor. that fit on ELCELSIOR engine - oval shape. Are there any Bruce R Thompson, Box 285, Mill, Wyo. other Colby's? OVERLAND •.....• 1912 •• 4. • 59T •• Touring W. S. Cherney, 3314 Scenic Dr., Cedar Falls, Iowa. NEEDED: Headlight reflectors, literature, manuals, jack, strip DODGE •••••.••. 1915 •• 4 ••• - ••• Touring ping and paint samples (Blue). NEEDED: First style carburetor and air tube, engine air pres Stan Griffith, 8219 E. 70th, Paramount, California. sure pump, shift lever, first style rear wheel flanges, oil breath OVERLAND •••..•• 1916 .. 6 •.. 86 . Cloverleaf er, choke rod. NEEDED: Almost everything. Especially need 26" wire wheel Richard C. Perry, 413 N. James St., Peekskill, N.Y. 10566. lockrings, starter, generator, carburetor and correspondence DODGE •.••••••• 1917 •• 4 ••• - ••• Touring with other owners. NEEDED: Ignition switch, crank hole cover, hood, and head Orville Larsen, 4457 N - 900 W. Ogden, Utah 84404. light rim and Kelsey spare tire carrier. PLYMOUTH ••••••. 1928 • • 4 .•. -. • Roadster Linas E. Dietz, 2114 Carolina St., Lawrence, Kansas 66044. NEEDED: Cyl. head, intake manifold, rear bumper 20" lock ESSEX • • • • • • • • • 1926 • • 6 • • • - • • • Coach ring, running boards, steering wheel, lock for sidemounts. NEEDED: Window raising and lowering handle, cranks and J.B. Soderberg, 2156 Berkeley St., Salt Lake City, Utah. spindles for same. Horn, windshield wiper assemblies, parts POPE HARTFORD •.•. 1912 •• 4 .• 27-SOHP.Roadster catalogue. NEEDED: Complete radiator, carburetor and manifold. What Ronald J . Putz, 1801 So. Warner Ave., Bay City, Michigan, have you? 48707. Dr. Scher, 1100 Park Avenue, New York City, N. Y. FLANDERS. • • . . 1912 •• 4 ••• - .•• Touring RAMBLER . • • . • • • 1904 . . 2 • • K . R. E. Tonneau NEEDED: Rear axles, outer axle bearings and bearing sleeves. NEEDED: Rear entrance tonneau, two hub caps, gas tank, radi S. Liftchild, 8611 Greenback Lane, Orangevale, Calif. 95662. ator, two carburetors. FRANKLIN .•.•••• 1922 •• 6 ••. 9B ••.Touring Bruce H. Thompson, Box 285, Mill, Wyoming. NEEDED: 9" headlight lenses. One man touring top. Chain and REO. . • • .•.•.• 1906 • . 1 - - - -. Roadster chain sprocket for N. E. starter generator. NEEDED: Steering box and shaft, clutch and stabilizing rods. Henry J. Solesbee, 628 Prospect, Petaluma, Calif. 94952. Twist horn. HUPMOBILE • • .•••. 1911 •• .4 ••• 20 •. Runabout Frank Nettleton, 102 Barberry Lane, Meriden, Conn. NEEDED: Breeze carburetor, intake manifold, torque tube and REO . • • • • • • • • • 1908/09 . 1 • . • G • . Runabout drive shaft. NEEDED: Coil box, battery box, fenders, fender and running W. H. Turner, 3800 N. Hills Blvd., North Little Rock, Ark. board brackets, steering column bulb horn, tail light. 72116. Harry P. Bean, 6427 Navajo Ave., El Paso, Texas 79925. LOCOMOBILE •.•••. 1922 •• 6 ••• - ••• Touring ROLLS-ROYCE ....• 1912 .• 6 . Silver Ghost. Touring NEEDED: Clock, tail lite, horn (motor driven Klaxon with short NEEDED: 6 steel clincher rims for wire wheels s ize 895 x 135. bugle). Combination clock and speedometer by Elliott. Edward 0. Butzke, 2502 Van Wick, Inglewood, California. Dr. Scher, 1100 Park Avenue, New York City, N. Y. MARMON ••••.•.• 1924 •. 6 •• 34B .• 7 Pas. Tour SCHICKEL •..•.•• 1912/14 . • 1 ••• - •. Motorcycle NEEDED: Touring top, Kellog compressor, hub caps, radiator NEEDED: Single cylinder, two cycle, engine. The name cap, manifold gaskets, top saddles. SCHICKEL is cast on the engine in a triangle. Any l eads great Thomas O'Connor, 125 Marlboro Rd., De mar, N.Y. ly appreciated. MAXWELL . • • . . • • 1909. . 4 .•. K ••• Touring Harold M. Gilbert, 15 Jefferson St., Dansville, N. Y. NEEDED: Sidelamps, taillamp, 25" Firestone rim assembly, STE ARNS ••••• •.• 1909 .• 4 .• 15-30. Toy Tonneau top bows and hardware, mounting brackets for headlamps and NEEDED: Engine any condition. Transmission. Dash pattern. sidelamps and literature. '09 manual or copy. Sympathy or anything for Stearns. Max E. Toby, 2265 Ocean Ave., San Francisco, Calif. 94127 Vaun Rodgers, 220 N. Lee, El Paso, Texas 79901. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 59 PARTS NEEDED FOR THE FOLLOWINPARTSG CARS: WANTED 1910 BRUSH: Buffalo Carburetor. Commutator Cap. 1908 BUICK MODEL 10: Good condition Radiator. Muffler and tail pipe, Drive Shaft. Flywheel oil BRASS WATER PUMP FOR 1907 shield. Be ll y Pan. 1909 FORD "T": One-piece pan and square-hole MODEL 'K' FORD AS PICTURED. transmission cover. Early no-rivet rear-end. Early head. 1914 FRANKLIN: Taillight (electric!. Ratchet type ENGINES: '08 'D' Franklin. '07 Franklin 'G'. 1908 Mod throttle control for steering wheel. Ignition wire el 10 Buick lUnder Number 4000. - No gear conduit. 25-inch Stanweld number 52 Q.D. case on front.! 1910 Hupmobile. LAMPS: Dietz 'Queen' sidelamps. Gray & Davis bullet. clincher non-demountable rims. TOOL KITS: Ro lls Royce. Franklin. Bugatti. Others. 1930 FRANKLIN SER IES 147: Taillight. Wire wheel A lso any ori ginal tools having car names em hubcaps. Cigarette lighter. Thermostat and link bossed. age. Fender _lights . Gas cap. Running boards. WIRE WHEELS: Buffalo type HC-4, 20-inch for Fran Set of tools. klin. Also need hubs. 80 mm Rudge- Whitworth. 1933 FRANKLIN: Front and rear bumpers. Rear "jump 19- inch for 1928 Franklin (six internal lugs). MISCELLANEOUS: Four valve - OHC Miller head for seats" for limousine. Model 'A' Ford ("Harry A . Miller" - cast into 1921 SHERIDAN: Connecticut electric clock (2"). Any Head). Gray & Davis carbide generator round literature. type. McCord class J lubricator-approximately 1900 WINT ON RUNABOUT: Two hub caps. Tail lamp. 12" long, 4" wide by 5" deep. 28-inch wheels for single tube tires. Coilbox. 1926 Cleveland Radiator Shell. Grease guns made by Bassick Mfg. Company. Front lamps and brackets. Engine, complete. • LITERATURE: Catalogs. Manuals. Factory and Adver CARBURETORS: Detroit lubricator dual throat for 1930 tising brochures. "AIIegemeine Automobile Model 734 Packard. Flechter 1 %'" updraft. Ze Zeitung" 1907- published in Berlin and Munich. nith 2" or 2%" horizontal sidedraft. Mayer 1 %" updraft. Corser 1 'is" updraft. Pierce '66;. Please Give Full Details and Price in First Letter. American Watchtool 1" updraft for Metz. Pictures Very Helpful 5 PLEASE SEND OFFERS OF CARS FOR SALE ROGER ELLIS, HARRAH'S AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION, I TO BUD CATLETT, P.O. BOX 10, RENO, NEVADA P.O. BOX 10, RENO, NEVADA WANTED For 1912 Mode l 'T' Ford: 12 rivet rear e nd, two piece drive 10-Hudson torqu e tube an d driveline , rear end gears or a ll of s h aft and early radius rods, compl ete 1912 motor and trans- Weston Mott rear end assembl y. 08-Reo on e cylinde r N ational mission" For 1928 Oakland Cabriol et, L andau arms. Ramon coil box with round switch'. Oiler release l ever or pattern. Monas t erio, 6321 Morella Ave., No. Ho llywood, Calif. 91606. Single twist steering post bulb horn. Vaun Rodgers, 220 N. Lee, E l Paso, Texas. 7990 1. Head light Gray and Davis No. SO; tail light C· M. Hall No. 5, and Dragon Bulb Horn. James J. Shelton, 10848 Oakton Way, Back issues Gazette: Vol. 7, #1; Vol. 6, # 1 & #3; Vol. 5, 114; Rancho Cordova, Calif. Vol. 4, 113 (will accept re productions). For 19 28 Model 'A' Ford Sedan: Drum type tail light, red steering wheel, e l ectric $50.00 reward for information that l eads to whereabouts and wiper motor, early type straight s un vi sor. For 1931 Chrysler pu rchase of the Stutz Roadster body that was laying out near Mode l CG: Manifold compl ete, h eadlights, tail lights , stainl ess Wamsutter, Wyo., a couple years ago. Also any pre 1922 parts wire wheels , service or sh op manual. E. P. Au sbrooks, Clarks large or small. L eslie H a l verson, St. 0 1af, Iowa. 5207 2. ville Base, Tenn. Pair o f Dietz Ideal or Dietz Regal s ide lamp s and matching 1948 Lincoln V- 12 Repair or Sh op Manual. Not service or tail lamp; Autocar manu al s, catalogs, etc. 1897-1911; Faw own er's manual. State condition, wh e the r compl ete and asking cett books #196, #207, #359, an d Trend #111, #193. Please price. Robert E. Casey, M.D., 1218 14th. Street North, Texas write airmail. W. Evenden, USA Calibration Agen cy, APO, New City, Texas. 7759~ York, N. Y. 09189. Mode l 'T' Ford, wanted roadster or touring. Not restored, in one piece, or what have you. Prefer brass but will consider other years. Will return all pictures. Please s tate price and condition. Must be reasonable. Charles E. Brown, P.O. Box 2, STEARNS-K NIGHT •... 1912 •• 4 . •• 5 Pass •. Touring Morrisville, Penna. 19067. NEEDED: Inne r and outer sleeves; 27 in. artillary wh eel s; Vesta generator! air pump, hand pump, pressure gauge for gaso Want Classic Phaeton, 1929- 1933, of following type: Chrysler line s upply. Imperial Custom 8, CL or CG. Packard 734, 745, 840, 845. Arthur W. Aseltine, 2530 Have ncrest Dr., Fallbrook, Calif. Cadillac V16. Stutz DV32. Will con s ider convertible Victoria 92028. or other open body. Prefer fully restored. F. M. Brunemeie r, ST UDEBAKER •.•••. 1919 •• 6 .•. Big 6. Touring 20 20 Court Street, Redding, Calif. NEEDED: Back half of body with doors and handles, top sock et s for back half of body. R ear springs or cu s hions (prefer Want California license plates: 1916, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 , 22, Calif.) 23, 43, 44, 55, and 56. Have extras of 1951, 26, 38, 31, 34, W. A. Jack s, Box 1237, Quincy, Calif. and 30. Jack Thompson, Rt. 3, Box 408, San Jose, California. 60 r46NDRY MUSEUM John A. Conde of American Motors Corp. sent us this c. 1906 photo of two Pope Toledo cars, presumably taken in Texas. The car at the left is a rare Type X and the one on the right, a Type XII. 61 Toll gate on the 17 Mile Drive near Carmel, California. Note the "Toot your Horn - Show your Permit" sign on the roof. Note also the lamp covers on the middle car's lamps. Car at left is a Rambler, others are Buicks. Photo from Ed Anderson of San Francisco . • Keith Marvin of Troy, N .Y. recently located this old photo graph of what appears to be a homemade speedster. Does anyone recognize any of the pieces by make? 62 I The Town Pump I eA. S. LEWERENZ COLLECTION 63 64 lhotolibum Clem Kornhoff of Woodridge, New Jersey sent us this. photo of his father and uncle rebuilding a 1912 Model T Ford in 1915. The unit at the front of the engine is part of a compressed air starter. Member Robert Telfer of Whittier, California submited this Dr Alfred S. Lewerenz, the Gazette Research Historian, photo postcard of a car owned by his father-in-law, Rev. comments : The car is a. Holsman. The locked box on the S. D. Rod holm, former President of Grand View College at front puts it after 1906 and the wrapped cable drive Des Moines, Iowa. Notation on the back of the card reads: places it before 1909. The double landau bars on the "This is a picture of the car for sale . 2 cyl. 1 0-12 Victoria top make it a No. 1 0 Runabout. My guess, then, horsepower, new carburetor, chains, cables, sprockets, is that the highwheeler is a 1907- 1908 Model 10 Holsman double coil, timer. Machinery sound, can be run a Runabout which cost $750 plus $100 for a leather Victoria while with tires but wi ll soon need new. Tires not top with rubber lap apron. (Information from a 1907 Hols costly and last long. Can be seen at Grand View man brochu re.) Coll ege, end of car li ne, East 6 and 9th. Will take first reasonable offer I receive." THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 191 2 Model T Ford truck owned by the Kornhoff Bro s. Bakery in Garfield, New Jersey. Picture taken in Spring of 1914 comes to us from member C. E. Kornhoff of Wood Ridge, N .J. Ramblers ·Of about 1913 on the Midland Trail in Utah . Photos from Andy Harrison. 66 mily lhotollhum Member Fred Bauer of Phoenix, Arizona sent us these photos he secured from Fred Kennedy of Flagstaff. Pictured in the car is Kennedy's brother Raymond, onetime Overland dealer in Glendale, California. The photos, taken in about 1915, show the racing conversion of a 1909 shaft drive Locomobile. A "modern" touch is provided by the "S&M" spotlight mounted on the cowl and perhaps powered by a battery carri.ed in the wooden tool box back of the gas tank. These powerful lights, made in Lo s Angeles, were quite popular about 1915 for use on racy-type cars. Tires and rims on the Locomobile, too, have been "modernized." The ad from the December 1908 Country Life in America reproduced here shows the standard Locomobile "30". THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 DISPLAY YDtJl\ CLUB !HS!GHIA! Official Emblem $3.SO LARGE SIZE - 3lh INCHES IN DIAMETER. HEAVY BRASS WITH DESIGN IN RED, BLUE AND BLACK VITREOUS ENAMEL. FOR RADIATOR OR DASH. Lapel Pin $1.7S FULL-COLOR HARD-FIRED VITREOUS ENAMELS AND QUALITY GOLD PLATE, ONE-HALF INCH SIZE. AVAIL ABLE WITH CLUTCH BACK, SCREW BACK OR SAFETY PIN BACK; STATE STYLE DESIRED. Deca.ls so~ each- 3 for $1.00 FOUR COLOR, LARGE .. SIZE, _FOR \YOUR MODERN C{\R OR ' _,-'I I TRlJCK. ' , ,, , '', \ I - / Gummed Labels · _100 for $1.00 OFI<'ICIAL EMBLEM IN FOUR BRIGHT COLORS," 1% 11 SIZE. APPLY LIKE A POSTAGE STAMP ON LETTERS, ENVELOPES, CLUB NOTICES, ETC. . . ~ ,'- . ' . '\ ,' /.. ~\ I. D. . Badge so~ RED-WHITE-BLUE QUALITY CELLULOID, 2lh . INCHES IN DIAMETER. WINDOW INSERTS FOR YOUR NAME FURNISHED. Gazette Binders $3.00 STURDY BINDERS SPECIALLY IMPRINTED FOR THE GAZETTE; HOLD TWO TO THREE YEARS. EASY TO USE. Foreign countries, $3.50 ORDER FROM Horseless Carriage Club of America 9031 E. Florence Avenue Downey, California 25% discount on Regional Group orders of $25.00 Ca liforni a Reside nts Add 4c for Every Dollar (Sa les Tax)