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H.R. 2930, THE SECTION 202 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THE ELDERLY ACT OF 2007 HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY OF THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION SEPTEMBER 6, 2007 Printed for the use of the Committee on Financial Services Serial No. 110–59 ( U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 39–538 PDF WASHINGTON : 2007 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512–1800; DC area (202) 512–1800 Fax: (202) 512–2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402–0001 VerDate 0ct 09 2002 15:44 Dec 14, 2007 Jkt 039538 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 5011 Sfmt 5011 K:\DOCS\39538.TXT HFIN PsN: TERRIE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES BARNEY FRANK, Massachusetts, Chairman PAUL E. KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania SPENCER BACHUS, Alabama MAXINE WATERS, California RICHARD H. BAKER, Louisiana CAROLYN B. MALONEY, New York DEBORAH PRYCE, Ohio LUIS V. GUTIERREZ, Illinois MICHAEL N. CASTLE, Delaware NYDIA M. VELA´ ZQUEZ, New York PETER T. KING, New York MELVIN L. WATT, North Carolina EDWARD R. ROYCE, California GARY L. ACKERMAN, New York FRANK D. LUCAS, Oklahoma JULIA CARSON, Indiana RON PAUL, Texas BRAD SHERMAN, California PAUL E. GILLMOR, Ohio GREGORY W. MEEKS, New York STEVEN C. LATOURETTE, Ohio DENNIS MOORE, Kansas DONALD A. MANZULLO, Illinois MICHAEL E. CAPUANO, Massachusetts WALTER B. JONES, JR., North Carolina RUBE´ N HINOJOSA, Texas JUDY BIGGERT, Illinois WM. LACY CLAY, Missouri CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut CAROLYN MCCARTHY, New York GARY G. MILLER, California JOE BACA, California SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts TOM FEENEY, Florida BRAD MILLER, North Carolina JEB HENSARLING, Texas DAVID SCOTT, Georgia SCOTT GARRETT, New Jersey AL GREEN, Texas GINNY BROWN-WAITE, Florida EMANUEL CLEAVER, Missouri J. GRESHAM BARRETT, South Carolina MELISSA L. BEAN, Illinois JIM GERLACH, Pennsylvania GWEN MOORE, Wisconsin, STEVAN PEARCE, New Mexico LINCOLN DAVIS, Tennessee RANDY NEUGEBAUER, Texas ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey TOM PRICE, Georgia PAUL W. HODES, New Hampshire GEOFF DAVIS, Kentucky KEITH ELLISON, Minnesota PATRICK T. MCHENRY, North Carolina RON KLEIN, Florida JOHN CAMPBELL, California TIM MAHONEY, Florida ADAM PUTNAM, Florida CHARLES A. WILSON, Ohio MICHELE BACHMANN, Minnesota ED PERLMUTTER, Colorado PETER J. ROSKAM, Illinois CHRISTOPHER S. MURPHY, Connecticut THADDEUS G. McCOTTER, Michigan JOE DONNELLY, Indiana ROBERT WEXLER, Florida JIM MARSHALL, Georgia DAN BOREN, Oklahoma JEANNE M. ROSLANOWICK, Staff Director and Chief Counsel (II) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 15:44 Dec 14, 2007 Jkt 039538 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 K:\DOCS\39538.TXT HFIN PsN: TERRIE SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY MAXINE WATERS, California, Chairwoman NYDIA M. VELA´ ZQUEZ, New York JUDY BIGGERT, Illinois JULIA CARSON, Indiana STEVAN PEARCE, New Mexico STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts PETER T. KING, New York EMANUEL CLEAVER, Missouri PAUL E. GILLMOR, Ohio AL GREEN, Texas CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut WM. LACY CLAY, Missouri GARY G. MILLER, California CAROLYN B. MALONEY, New York SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia GWEN MOORE, Wisconsin, SCOTT GARRETT, New Jersey ALBIO SIRES, New Jersey RANDY NEUGEBAUER, Texas KEITH ELLISON, Minnesota GEOFF DAVIS, Kentucky CHARLES A. WILSON, Ohio JOHN CAMPBELL, California CHRISTOPHER S. MURPHY, Connecticut THADDEUS G. McCOTTER, Michigan JOE DONNELLY, Indiana BARNEY FRANK, Massachusetts (III) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 15:44 Dec 14, 2007 Jkt 039538 PO 00000 Frm 00003 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 K:\DOCS\39538.TXT HFIN PsN: TERRIE VerDate 0ct 09 2002 15:44 Dec 14, 2007 Jkt 039538 PO 00000 Frm 00004 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 K:\DOCS\39538.TXT HFIN PsN: TERRIE C O N T E N T S Page Hearing held on: September 6, 2007 ............................................................................................ 1 Appendix: September 6, 2007 ............................................................................................ 37 WITNESSES THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 2007 Allton, Terry, Vice President of Support Services, National Church Resi- dences .................................................................................................................... 27 Feingold, Ellen, President, Jewish Community Housing for the Elderly, Bos- ton, Massachusetts ............................................................................................... 22 Frigo, Michael, Vice President, Mayslake Village, Westmont, Illinois ............... 23 Garvin, John, Senior Advisor to the FHA Commissioner, and Acting Deputy Assistant Secretary for Multi-Family Housing, U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development ...................................................................................... 7 Kondor, Deje, Executive Director, Presbyterian Homes and Housing Founda- tion of Florida, Inc. .............................................................................................. 20 Lizarraga, David C., President and CEO, TELACU/Millennium, LLC ............... 16 Protulis, Steve, Executive Director, Elderly Housing Development and Oper- ations Corporation (EHDOC) .............................................................................. 25 Slemmer, Thomas W., Board Chair-Elect, The American Association of Homes and Services for the Aging .................................................................................. 18 APPENDIX Prepared statements: Maloney, Hon. Carolyn B. ................................................................................ 38 Allton, Terry ...................................................................................................... 39 Feingold, Ellen, ................................................................................................. 46 Frigo, Michael ................................................................................................... 65 Garvin, John ..................................................................................................... 67 Kondor, Deje ..................................................................................................... 72 Lizarraga, David C. .......................................................................................... 79 Protulis, Steve ................................................................................................... 86 Slemmer, Thomas W. ....................................................................................... 97 (V) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 15:44 Dec 14, 2007 Jkt 039538 PO 00000 Frm 00005 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 K:\DOCS\39538.TXT HFIN PsN: TERRIE VerDate 0ct 09 2002 15:44 Dec 14, 2007 Jkt 039538 PO 00000 Frm 00006 Fmt 5904 Sfmt 5904 K:\DOCS\39538.TXT HFIN PsN: TERRIE H.R. 2930, THE SECTION 202 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THE ELDERLY ACT OF 2007 Thursday, September 6, 2007 U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY, COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES, Washington, D.C. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:10 a.m., in room 2128, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Maxine Waters [chair- woman of the subcommittee] presiding. Members present: Representatives Waters, Maloney, Clay, Sires, Ellison; Biggert, and Capito. Ex officio: Chairman Frank. Also present: Representative Mahoney. Chairwoman WATERS. This hearing of the Subcommittee on Housing and Community Opportunity will come to order. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I’d first like to thank Rank- ing Member Judy Biggert for being here today and the members of the Subcommittee on Housing and Community Opportunity for joining me for today’s hearing on H.R. 2930, the Section 202 Sup- portive Housing for the Elderly Act of 2007. I’d like to start by noting that without objection, Mr. Mahoney will be considered a member of the subcommittee for the duration of this hearing. Also without objection, all members’ opening state- ments will be made part of the record. I am looking forward to hearing from the two panels of witnesses today, because the Section 202 program is such a cornerstone of our Federal response to the needs of our Nation’s most vulnerable elderly households. I appreciate the work of Mr. Mahoney in crafting H.R. 2930, which is designed to ensure that Section 202 retains its vitality. Today over 6,000 projects, containing over 310,000 units nation- wide, receive assistance under this program. Enacted as Section 202 of the Housing Act of 1959, it is among our oldest Federal sub- sidized housing programs, and the only HUD program with the sole focus on meeting the needs of the poor elderly. I’d like to start with the good news about the 202 program: it works. By this I mean that the combination of affordable housing and coordinated supportive services provided by 202 project spon- sors has been proven to enable elderly tenants with a median age of 76 to live as independently as possible for as long as possible. This goal, referred to as helping seniors age in place, is part of what I regard as almost a technological revolution over the last few (1) VerDate 0ct 09 2002 15:44 Dec 14, 2007 Jkt 039538 PO 00000 Frm 00007 Fmt 6633 Sfmt 6633 K:\DOCS\39538.TXT HFIN PsN: TERRIE 2 decades in meeting the health and housing needs of many vulner- able populations. At one time, the frail elderly, the mentally ill, and the otherwise disabled could expect to live for long periods in institutional set- tings, because those were the only places equipped to meet their needs for long-term support. Today, entrepreneurial nonprofits