Legislative Council

Session 90, Meeting 13 Wednesday, March 6, 2018 – 5 pm UMC 384/386

I. Call to Order -- Ney: Thanks for your patience, we had some technical difficulties I call this meeting to order at 17:18 II. Roll Call VP: We have quorum Mr. president III. Approval of Agenda A. Are there any motions on the agenda B. VP: Move to move budget discussion and voting until after 90_LCB_01 and 90_LCR_03. Seconded C. Without objection the motion passed D. Are there any motions on the minutes E. IV. Approval of Minutes A. Gile moved to approve the minutes B. The minutes were approved V. Announcements VI. Public Open Hearing A. Lucy Haggard: Hi Many of you I know from reporting on you. I’m here in a different capacity today. Thank you for accommodating us and considering putting us into the budget package. We have a few members from the CU Independent, I represent that as well at one point, I was editor in chief last semester, but now I’m just doing an outreach role in this regard. We’ll keep all the details of what we are asking later int he meeting, but I would like to yield the floor to some of my fellow staffers B. Hi I am heidi I’m the editor in chief. Thank you for hearing us out. We play a really critical role on campus. As a student newspaper, we help report on local events and keep people accountable, we just reported this past semester on title IX, the hill hotel, the druggings at fraternities. In order to do a good job, we want to better compensate our writers and editors. We receive a very small stipend currently -- managing editors only get 50-70. Writers get even less. I hope you will consider us in the future for a better budget. C. Hello everyone, I am justin guerro. I am a managing editor of the CU Indepednent. I’ll be graduating this may. When I think of internally what the CU Independent has done for me, internships I’ve gotten, experience, it blows away everything I did in the classroom. I think the CU Independent should be considered as its own classroom. The things you learn is real life experience if you want to get into journalism. The details of this proposal you will hear will enhance our value on campus and will better compensate people on staff, maybe I could stop waiting tables on the weekend or someone who takes my place. When I see what we have done in the past year, I am nothing but proud. Please consider this would take us from good to great and it would open up doors to people who are interested in becoming journalists. D. Hello My name is Nigel Amstock, I am the visuals ediotr. Over the past four years I have been involved, we have covered all sorts of facets of campus news. I got to cover senators, VP Biden, and all the things that this body funds that students care about. I also got to travel to cover basketball abroad and I got to interact with other student journalists. While I am proud of what we can do with such limited resources, It’s embarassing how little resources we get in comparison to other PAC-12 schools. E. Hi I am a photographer for the CUI, being apart of it has had me build so much experience in my field, I got to do so many things that I wouldn’t have been able to do otherwise with what the CUI does me. Something that the CU name has on it should ensure that we can do the best work we can do -- Hunter Allan. F. Hello my name is Jake Moff i work with the cui. I have some experience, I was one of the former EIC’s and I was fortunate to put some time and dedication into the newspaper and help people along my way. However my fortune has helped me not focus on working on other jobs that students have to focus on in this time of economic hardships for some people. Thank you for considering this, it would help us grow as writers and make this G. Lucy: We’ll stop it there and keep the details for later VII. Presidential Action Items A. None VIII. New Business A. FY 2019/2020 Budgets, 2nd Hearing i. Off Campus Housing and Neighborhood Relations – Director Susan Stafford (5:10 pm) ii. Susan: Well from last week’s hearing the only thing we are asking for is the minimum wage increase that is mandated by the state. We did get a question how many people are working in the office. To be clear we have some vacancies from the fall semester, but we will be fully staffed in the fall and that would be 12 students. I also got a inquiry about 2 questions -- regarding our strategic plan, the question that was asked if we researched the liabilities of the safety patrol. We haven’t yet, we are still in the exploratory phase of looking at this, we know other institutions do it, generally we see them use an off-duty police officer. The safety patrol isn’t making arrests or doing what a police officer would normally do. They are our eyes and ears for safety issues, who might need transport, potentially escorting students home on that sexual assault concern. It would more be that type of issue, if they need to they can call the police. The second question was from the grad and law school for services they provide to grad and law students. Ralphie’s list is available to all fee- paying students, you log in with your identikey but we don’t track how many students from the law and grad school, we can certainly track it in the future but we can’t give you a specific breakdown on that. With the law school they send a rep to our housing fair, we found out recently they do this, meeting with each of the apartment complexes and property owners so that they can get listings, they didn’t realize we already had a compiled listing and we would be happy to give that to them, I think we simplified it for them. For graduate students I worked with the dean in the last few years for apartment complexes outside of the boulder area because not all want to live here or could afford it. We are looking at that, we are part of a housing taskforce now, letting higher administration know the needs of not just the grad students but also the undergrad students on affordability issues. Both from the law and grad school they use our legal service attorney pretty extensively, I would say maybe more grad students than law students, but maybe that’s because the law students have more knowledge of the law than others. iii. Ney: Any final questions you weren’t able to ask last time council? iv. Ney: I think that’s all we have, thanks for coming in. v. Recreation Services – Board Chair Rafe Kossak, Director Tony Price, (5:20 pm) vi. Ney: With that we will move on to rec services, apologize for the delay (17:32) vii. Price: Thank you for having us good evening, I want to introduce Rafe, he wasn’t here last week with the scheduling changes, he was about to arrive but we got in earlier as you know. There was discussion on our enhancements and the impact that it will have on our students that access the facilities as well as student staff, and also hearing some feedback from this group around the loss of some student employee positions in order to help offset costs to support these enhancements in addition to the elimination of a FTE position. I would like some of my staff speak to the value of eliminating these positions and creating some and from a efficiency standpoint why this is a good idea viii. Levy: Thank you for having us, I wasn’t able to make the meeting as well I’m sorry. The amount of growth the outdoor program has seen since the expansion project, our climbing program etc. that growth we have been able to maintain with our current employees, but we are maxed out now, we need more people for risk management and safety so we can maintain what we are doing currently but also make sure that it can expand. One of the main roles this individual would have is some night and weekend oversight, they’d come in 12-8pm our busy time is 6-8pm, and also some weekend help as well, work at least a saturday or a sunday to be there when I’m not around, i’m typically 8-5 8-6. That would be an asset and they’d also help us be more timely with repairs, resets, refunds, giving better feedback. Also they could provide more staff trainings, which would enable us to provide a better product. Basically speaking towards the reduction in staffing and student hours, basically we currently have a 9 month intern position, someone who has a degree that wants to develop themselves, we’d take that money and put it to the pro staff psotion so that way we don’t start over every 9 months. We’d be cutting 10 and a half hours from my student coordinator position, that’s about 2 to 3 hours per coordinator, this would only reduce their workload, most of them would be ok with it anyways. This would provide the program with more opportunity to grow, the trip program could be expanded. That’s where we want to go with it, any questions? ix. Gazarik: Do you have an idea how many students use this? x. Levy: We had 2777 unique users who bought a membership for the semester for these programs and our weekly hours of operations grew xi. ?: That’s also just members, not just the groups or summer camps, that’s purely members, xii. Levy: Yeah so that doesn’t account for the day passes xiii. Price: I’m sharing this document I think you have xiv. Gazarik: that’s how many people who have purchased once, are these kids coming multiple times a week? xv. Levy: Yeah it’s about 1000 to 1200 visitors a week xvi. Rafe: You’d note during the week where they’re literally at capacity at some hours of the week. As someone who frequents it, it’s interesting to watch it grow not even 4 years ago but from when I started here until now. It used to be there was no concern about there being too many people, but now it’s gotten to a point where there’s almost always people there, it’s pretty wild, pretty well frequented. xvii. Price: K, moving on to enhancement #3, for bear creek, if there’s any questions, we can provide specific feedback to that xviii. Price: we also discussed last week enhancement #4, it’s budget neutral, increased revenue and activity, more expenses with that, is there any additional questions on that? xix. Price: Ok enhancement #5, a lot of things going on with this, our department is being very intentional with this vacant FTE on how to provide more opportunity, with that loss of that assistant director, we are trying to be more concious about HR support. Upgrading the guest services manager to assistant director, David schofield was here last time, but Patty here can help with this and show the impact that dave’s move would help xx. Patty: Sorry I couldn’t be here last week, so just to really recap what was stated last week with dave here, the position guest services coordinator, this would be a new fte. This position would be primarily responsible for guest services, this is about 50 student employees. the role that he has right now is he is managing 800k in budget, a lot of lockers, he’s managing budgets, he’s managing the department assessment, and he’s managining projects. That doesn’t leave a lot of time for staff training. That’s osmething we care about and we want the best customer service possible. We could do ongoing training. We could provide the coaching they would need and evaluation annually. This posiiton would be taking out those key pieces in front line supervision, they will be here for our prime time in 5-8pm. All those questions we receive, sometimes the transactions our four coordinators can’t resolve, by having a full time person in place, thye would be able to improve customer service drastically. So we will gain so much more by having this position which currnetly dave is stetched really thin. So that’s an overview, also there are four students we are looking at, noen of them will be losing their psotiion, two will graduate in may, they also work as guest services leads. So they still have that opportunity to work as supervisors, interviewing trying to be promoted. So there’s other leadership opportunities for them, they will not lose money, hours, it will be a smooth transition for our QoS. xxi. Rafe: Do you mind if I say something? Just to piggyback, one of the concerns you may have is future student jobs, in a time we are already talking about finances and we can talk about quantitative stuff, but there’s also a qualitiative aspect for the outward facing ability to take care of students, but to piggyback on CUI there’s an important piece to what happens for our staff when the class size is too large. So this will eventually provide more opportunities for oversight and jumpstart a career that happens after colleg.e While there’s some quantitative trade- offs, I think the cost may be the same, but the amount of value people will get out of this change will be enough. This is why it was so easy for the rec board to approve this and push it through to you guys. xxii. Price: We’ll shift gears to dan for the need for an additional maintenance staff position and how it will provide a lot more dedicated support. And I’ll be able to summarize really quick. xxiii. Dan: This will help with the maintenance staff, there are all sorts of equipment, theyse guys clean everything and fix everything. We currently have 8 students working 100 hours a week, and that’s not fully staffed, we have a hard time staffing for this position. We get a full staff the start of the school year but they leave after a couple weeks when they find better jobs. No students are losing their jobs this semester, the ones that are graduating we’ll probably hire back, the students get a lot of great skills, but it’s going to become a night position. We just want to increase the times of service for all you guys. xxiv. Price: I’ll go ahead and close, Rafe, talked about the value of student employee positions at the rec center. There’s a good chance I wouldn’t be here without my job at the rec center 25 years ago. Also at the Rec Center, so really I understand the importance of these positions, and the value, and the whole department does as well. We have a student staff development committee, we have a professional development fund set up for a students. They can apply for funding to get their certifications. We have a student employee leadership committee, so from our strategic plan and assessment plan, we take a hard look at this and I think we are doing an excellent job in doing this, but I get your feedback and I appreciate it. There’s always opportunity for more students, we are always hiring for intermural people. So I would also, last point I would make is also around the work a professional staff works and how we provide a lot of coverage for our service. xxv. Ney: Well, if nobody has anything… xxvi. Carter: So in terms with graduate students, what’s going on with graduate student fees? What’s going on with those fees with graduate students and depending on their position in graduate school xxvii. Price: So there’s a number different of classifications of graduate students. A majority of our graduate students pay full rec expansion fees and full student activity fees and get access. There’s one classification, classification G, that I think you’re referring to, where they pay almost 90- 95% of the activity fee and a lot of the rec expansion fee, but it takes 22 dollars for access, so they pay their fees and their good to get into the building, we see why that’s a turn off to a student that says I’m paying all these fees and I’m this close. We had multiple conversations as a board, we had UGGS rep in open forum and and UGGS rep on our board, this was fall semester. What do we do with status g for fall semester. We collectively made the decision to temporarily waive the fee, but being mindful around if we are subsidizing their cost, but we needed some more time to figure this out, could we figure out what to do with the bursar’s office, but can we do this at front maybe, we are looking at data around access to the facilities for the last 3 years for all our grad students. We are also waiting to see what happens with UGGS and the relationship with CUSG, once we get clarity on that we can move forward with fall semester with 2019. xxviii. Carter: Basically you’ll make your decision over the summer? xxix. Price: We are putting together a number of recommendations right now, we are also on hold to see what the governance model is right now. If things are status quo, we will advance recommendations to the rec board, the recreation center can create these classifications around access for some groups specific to G. Will they pay the 22 dollars or not? How will they pay that xxx. Robinson: For the graduate situation, is that kind of the samescenario, where a undergrad wasn’t a full-time student, they would have to pay. xxxi. Rafe: In a way yes, in the similarities in that the full payment wasn’t done, we had to have full payment to get full access. The issue that came up was the transparency and the full information on this. In reality there was a 22 dollar distinction between full fees and what they were paying. We wanted to insure the whole population figuring out what to do with this. It was also sort of a grievement that it seemed to have a serious effect on a lot of graduate students xxxii. Price: Before Brady interjects, it’s about equity, if you were not paying the full student activity fee and the full rec expansion fee, you would have to pay that for our full membership. Graduate paid partial fees. xxxiii. Secretary ranted about g status and the fee lock and why this answer should be ok for now xxxiv. KVCU Radio 1190 – Board Chair Lily Hetherington, General Manager Jared Browsh (5:40 pm) xxxv. Ney: If everyone could quiet down, we will move on to KVCU 18:02, thank you for being here. xxxvi. Browsh: SO Iike I said last year, CMCI has taken care of large equipment, we feel the money would be better used and 8 of our staff members are going to SXSW to cover that, we went from having 0 press passes to 4 press passes. We think this will allow us to do more things, with those passes, instead of forcing parents to hold staff members in their house, we can get actual accomodations for them. Just being prepared as we talk to CMCI for an MOU with CMCI and CUSG, the utilities cost could move over to CUSG as I said, we would take care of utilities and they would increase their investment in equipment, the movement is to increase student opportunities and development, especially as we move to work with CPR and other outlets, having a higher travel budget will enable students to be reimbursed, like I said because we have come and even with this, I never discourage students to not collect hours, but because of the last couple of years, we’ve come enough underbudget the last couple years, we didn’t really eveny need the enhancment for the minimum wage costs. xxxvii. Ney: Thank you for coming! xxxviii. Center for Student Involvement – Board Chair Maureen McNamara, Director Kristen Rollins, Assistant Director Jamey Lockley (5:50 pm) xxxix. Kristin: thank you for having us back again, I have Maureen with me xl. Kristin: we have a variety of other folks here as well, they’re here to answer questions as well. Just to answer the questions you want, what would you like us to do? Great ok so the two questions that were sent to us were for the position that we were hoping to get, we have a lot of increase going on with our student organizations these days, we are currently at 517 organizations to date, our numbers are growing and our organizations are much more active. So we need to have additional staff to support that need, there’s also more foot traffic in the office, we need staff to help with that. Also just to note the other piece our office touches all the budgets that go through any funding process. This year we’ve already had 694 budgets going through. That’s for two staff touchpoints, so if you do that now, that’s almost 1400 touch points in and of itself, it’s time intensive. We did get the question about what the job functions would look like, but if you’d like to share that, I’ll recap this job what it looks like, collin can talk about it xli. collin: So we have some student staff members to help us manage student organizations, this position would help support the student staff psotions. This is a bigger font than what I had which is good. The student organizations with registration increasing we need someone to assist with that process, more new orgs, more returning orgs, we’d also include some specific trainings, those traingins beyond what happened per year. We work with campus partners are booking rooms, we make sure it’s with orgs in good standing, we need someone to take the lead on that process. I’m not going to go through all of them, but there’s a piece of this, CCS reps know we are asking students to submit a post spending report, this staffmember would help with that and ensure students subimt it on time. With Buffconnect, the more inputs in that system requires this person to be a community administrator for that xlii. Kristin: So how did catalyst go, we’ll let katie talk about that? xliii. Katie: So it happened on saturday, we had 61 students register, naturally there was a storm. 37 attended, most students attended were already student leaders, we had some from UCEC, all students that attended are involved in something on campus. The majority of participants were between the ages of 19-20, sophomores and juniors were the largest participants, in terms of takeaways for the day, three areas students said they felt the program enhanced for them was their community contribution, their active listening, I’m going to default to maureen and caitlin to share xliv. Maureen: Like she mentioned the listening thing was something I gained from this program. They had a ted talk on hearing, at least for me I’m working on my communication skills more, xlv. Caitlin: I’m the director of CUGold, we are a leadership organization, I thought it was beneifical, I was on the execboard of CUGOLD and thought I knew a lot, but this helped us grow as a program as CUGOLD and help us expand our network of students on campus, oftentimes we don’t have much to tell them, but having this catalyst or other leadership orgs come in, it could help leadership on campus. xlvi. Kirsten: This is really more to help on how to make it more effective. Many of you were only here for 4-6 years, but during that time we want to make sure you’re making change and we want this to be a great way to make this happen. I can go quick through these enhancements if you want? xlvii. Robinson: Thank you mr president, a couple questions, for the coordinator position, you have high hopes for this position to bring greater success to CSI, you said you have 9 people who oversee sutdent orgs, and they only focus on them for 15% on their student orgs, if I’m correct on that, why are 9 people overseeing parts of student orgs, why aren’t there specific positions for studewnt orgs xlviii. kirsten: so there’s student orgs and leadership position already, we’ve looked for ways to restructure, but it makes senes to pair student organizations and other job functions. The reason we have over 9 staff is we want to make sure if someone wants to take a vacation someone can go to it xlix. Robinson: This year it inclues CUGOLD, council, these residence life and leadership organizations, how are you bringing people into this leadership training, do you think it’s productive or inclusive to give people leadership trainings to go to this, for example CUGOLD already went, but how do you make this more inclusive, people who don’t have formal leadership training? l. Kirsten: We invited those groups, but we reached out to ROTC, CUGOLD also has other leadership opportunities as well, catalyst was open and was advertised openly to anyone that wants to come. It was out in the student org letter, they tabled on campus as well. We wanted to make sure student leaders know as well. li. Robinson: I want to make sure if this is an enhancement, if a business school student wanted to be able to go… lii. Kristen: They would be yeah liii. Carter: So do you have breaking down the buffconnect contract extension, I don’t quite understand it liv. Kristen: It’s hard to explain that in one paragraph. Collin and Katie chatted about that, they’re doing the migration and running it lv. Collin: I guess the quesiton, what portion, are you trying to find out where we are at? lvi. Collin: Yeah, so we are in the final gear in a three year contract. We signed a contract with a company called OrgSync, they then announced a merger with CampusLabs, there was another student org managemnt system in campus labs, they’ve merged them since then for a high-end updated platform. So in orgsynce nothing is being actively reported, we’ve migrated over to engage. So there’s some stuff being addressed there, this enhancement is dependent on the size of your institution, this price is set for the needs we have as a campus and some things we requested, some of those are the election system, the check in feature, the card swipe, the APIs for student data to go into the system. This we are hoping to enter into a three year contract again. lvii. Carter: This company, are they planning to do a merger as well, lviii. Collin: Well, so there’s two companies, one merged together, so this is the only serice provider that does something of this scope lix. Jamie: When we were out in the market, this was off the paper much less, but now they’re both together, there’s really nothing else for a campus our size lx. Kristen: Other campuses may have other options, but we are trying to do all of our financial stuff here as well lxi. Collin: Having budgeting and accounting there as well is really unique, I’ve never seen anything else on the market that does what we need lxii. Like I said last year it was 5000 individual transactions done in the system. lxiii. Carter: My next question goes to #4, the annual student leadership training, I know you ugys were saying you did an event recently, storm happened, but my question is do you remember the amount of graduate students or law students that were there? were there a lot, a little bit, on average were there a decent amount represented? lxiv. Kristen: For this specific one, we didn’t have any grad our law students, on average for CUGOLD we do usually have grad students, whoever participates, I would say, so CUGOLD has 3 grad students out of 25 sutdents. lxv. Carter: My last question, hopefully this new coordinator position will go to recuriting as well. I talk to a lot of grad students, and every time someone talks to me, they say they don’t know what CSI is, I’m hoping you guys can help us out with that by just talking to us, by engaging, will you guys see that in this new position, will this help and snap them up? lxvi. Kristen: During grad appreciation week, please come, but I think we do actually have a lot of grad student orgs. Absolutely want to continue reaching out , it’s not as though we don’t work with them, we have 80 orgs that are specifically grad or law and they are pretty active. With the grad and law school we reach out specifically and try to figure out what the specific needs are. Traditional programming for undergrad students don’t always work out for grad students. I think our core leadership program actually does have a decent amount of grad students involved in it lxvii. I think to speak in the position, I worked with trainings wiht staff and deans to try to educate them on the processes we have so they can have these practices with their students. But those things take time, and they take relationship building. Part of this position is to create those relationships and see hwat students need a bit more. lxviii. Gazarik: For your popups, I know you said you had such huge success and then you did a handful, one around the UMC and C4C. as Engineering continues to move to east campus, almost half will be on east campus, there’s not a lot that happens there, is there consideration to support east campus? lxix. KristeN: We haven’t gone to east campus… lxx. Erin: Actually on Pi day, we will be at the engineering center, the whole purpose though is to get out of our physical space, so I could foresee us going to the law school, or east campus, or even to will vill, but I think this is a new program and we are piloting it to see what students want. But it will be next week to the engineering quad near you lxxi. Byarm: So I was wondering, maybe I should direct this to greg, how much did you request for the SOR for the leadership program lxxii. Jamie: It was actually an earmark from our fundbalance, lxxiii. Kristen: It was 7500 for the pilot, the reason we wanted to increase it for the enhancement is that we wanted more attendees next year, so we want to shoot for 100 rather than 60 lxxiv. Byarm: How do you plan to scale the events, so that this will be al ongstanding enhancement, how will you upscale it and make it worth more lxxv. Kristen: so I think that we are always trying to find ways to find synergy on campus, then I think our partners on campus can support us, while this is for you all, but the future as we grow it, that we are talking to campus partners that can provide financial support. Especially for student leaders that could be making change on our campus. We have more students participating, and not have it be as much of a finanical burden lxxvi. ?: Just looking at other campuses, we want to scale it not only in attendees but in length, we are looking at attendees and overnight things, what are some innovative practices for this program, so if we have an idea of an exact idea it will look like, we don’t really know, but in terms of length and number, lxxvii. Kristen: We also had interest from other campuses that wanted to participate. lxxviii. Byarm: Will you guys go to these leadership organizations to ask what they needed? Is this how that turned out? lxxix. Kristen: Leadershape is a national organization, they’ve been doing leadership development for a while, and they know this works, we wanted to bring that in, we wanted something proven to work and nationally recognizable through their data and their results. We htought this would get them excited about it. lxxx. Gray: So going back to the orgsync merger, for the cost differentiation, did costs increase or decrease lxxxi. Kristen: When we contracted with orgsync we paid thi increase is not due to the merger, it’s due to the upgrade and the new contract, it’s sort of the idea, we can’t contract again for what we have as a system, we have to pay this much to use the system. lxxxii. Carter: Two more questions. #1, for the CSI popup program, what is an instagrammable moment, I don’t have instagram, how are you going to send it out so everyone can be like them and jump into this thing? lxxxiii. Kristen: so we are still piloting this lxxxiv. Erin: So the idea behind the program is that it is this one time randome event, so we wanted to emulate what trends were, what people were seeing, knowing students are on social media, how are they going to capture something on campus and share it with their peers. We like to create buzz, leading up to it we celebrated national bubble day back in february, there’s also national bubblewrap day. A couple days prior we had pictures of bubbles, and then we announced it in our social media and other channels on campus, so for this one we were right outside the c4c, we had people popping bubblewrap walls, this is to interact to students and have fun with them and give them a break, and get them to know what’s going on at CSI. For the bubblewrap one we also promote our black history month as well, we try to highlight other things going on on campus. lxxxv. Kristen, we absolutely want students to figure it out this way, we just want students to stumble upon it and ask who are you what’s going on. It is also just to allow people to just find out what’s going on lxxxvi. Carter: Bubblewrap day sounds great. lxxxvii. Lobieanco: Hi, so I’m sorry, I guess to start with, I think last time we saw this enhancement for weekly crafts programming, it was 5k, and then there was a second enhancement which was also 5k, is that correct? lxxxviii. Kristen: They’re the same thing lxxxix. Lobianco: I thought they were separate, so is popcorn and pinterest the main focus for weekly crafts programming? xc. Lobianco: Can you highlight what attendance is like and what that event is like? I think you’re asking for 7k for that event, can you highlight what’s that about xci. Kristen: Generally we asked to pilot it and we used our earmark for that, we wanted to try something new, we were hearing from students that wanted smaller more intimate gatherings and this was to provide that, the maximum capacity is 15-20, and we do it weekly, so we want to make sure students have that opportunity, we fill up every week, we are getting everything we want for that, so far last semester it was 200 people, this semester we will do the same thing. xcii. A-B: Can you highlight different kinds of crafts? xciii. Collin: So we hosted one today, and the one today was for instance we did air plants and hanging lightbulbs, I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Upstairs Circus but people are paid to do this, my joke has been it’s not hand turkey, not something cheap, but we want a potential skill there. We have done the needlepoint with the design and a ring, I’m not a craft person, emboridering that’s the word. We’ve done some knitting, we’ve done some making of pillows out of fleece, we’ve done nail art, they’re usually spending a significant amount of time in our office and walking away with something that might get hung in residence hall rooms. xciv. Ney: Thanks for your time and answering all our questions. (18:39) xcv. Volunteer Resource Center – Board Chair Mikaila Wahl, Director Hannah Wilks, Assistant Director Alyssa Willet (6:40 pm) xcvi. Emma tripped but recovered, Director Wilks: Nice save xcvii. (18:43) Ney: Thank you for waiting, I think we can get started. xcviii. Wilks: Do you want me to go back over enhancements? We can go back over the budget? xcix. Ney: Can you review the enhancements again? c. Wilks: I’m hannah again ci. Willet: introduces self cii. Wilks: We have put together three enhancements that have funding attached to them. we have student hourly minimum wage increase, that’s a 4700 dollar increase plus GAIR. We have a salary equity increase, this is for our coordinator positions the two are newer in our office, one was vacated, we resubmitted it to HR for some changes, it came back with some more salary, we did some research on entry-level coordinator positions, what we originally had we realized was pretty low, it created some inequity that created for a current position, we want a salary increase for those positions, it’s a pretty big salary increase per position, we want to insure we are retaining the staff we have, that they won’t just go to another cost center, we love the coordinator we currently have, she’s amazing, connects with the students in our office, and has done a fantastic job for planning events like the Be Involved fair, community days of service, so we wanted to retain her and try to find even better talent, so we just made an offer that was verbally written and accepted for our alternative breaks coordinator and we are waiting on a background check, so that will help cover our inequity in those positions ciii. Our pro and leadership development funds, we haven’t received money for this in over 10 years, we are asking for X$ with GAIR to insure that what happens now, because we have 3400 dollars, alyssa and I take turns every year to go to conferences, those conferences normally cost 10k-15k per eprson, we want to insure every staff member at least has some opportunity for osme professional development, even if it’s at a reduced cost, we want to stay connected to our national peers, and that’s what we are asking for. civ. We are co=submitting the funding request for an enhancement for the be involved fair, to insure that we can grow and sustain that event in a way that’s meaningful to students, to make it easy to navigate for student orgs. The fifth one is just that revenue adjustment, in the past we have had a 93k self generated revenue line, that has never been fulfileed at that level, working with her we decided to lower that number to 65k. To make that budget look cleaner. So it’s cost-neutral. Our total student fee request was x. Just a 1100 unduckable increase. cv. Ney: Alright, I have no additional questions, so thanks for your time. cvi. Cultural Events Board – Chair Mavjuda Ashurova, Program Advisor Erin Dewese, Financial Advisor Jamey Lockley (6:50 pm) cvii. Ney: Thank you CEB for the bubblewrap (and to CSI). Bubblewrap drops cviii. Mavjuda: I’m the chair of the cultural events board. cix. Introductions for everyone else cx. Ney: Just do a brief overview of the budget, we’ll see if we have any questions cxi. Mavjuda: One of the enhancements we are asking is the hourly wage increase, moving the chair to… oh I’m so sorry, so that was the hourly benefits increase, as well as the minimum wage increase, plus gair. Then moving on to the student organizations budget, because we are having more and more student orgs coming and the inflationary costs we are asking for this money. Last week we did go get the SOR funds request from finance board, 50k, the third one is moving the chair staffing positions and CUSG proper, cxii. Ney: Does anyone have any questions for CEB? cxiii. Ney: It appears we have no additional questions, thanks for coming in! cxiv. Distinguished Speakers Board – Chair Jessica Yan, Program Advisor Brandon Meyers, Financial Advisor Jamey Lockley (7 pm) cxv. (18:55) Ney: Alright, welcome DSB, thanks for being here, if you could give a brief overview of your budget. cxvi. ?: Yeah last week was great, we want this enhancement to maintain the student focus and allow us to not have to allocate more ticket fees. In addition to that, we are asking for the enhancement for the inflationary costs of the entertainment industry. Our past 8 events have been sold out and VIola Davis will be coming on april 4th. Sure, so I thought it was a great question from email, how does your cost center take into account grad and law students. That provided a great dialogue for us, this is a great question that we haven’t put a concerted effort to, so we want to reach out to strategic relations or look at who swipes into our event. We also had a law school panel for a death penalty project, as well as have a masters student on our board. Additionally we’d like to highlight we reach out to everyone, but yeah to wrap it up we host events where we try to be inviting to as many students as possible. cxvii. Ney: Allright, does anyone have questions? cxviii. Byarm: So could you guys vgive me an example of a speaker that’s out of your price range now and you could get with this enhancement cxix. ?: So it’s hard to give specific speaker names because of the inflationary costs cxx. Collin: That’s difficult to say, because the budget is 141k our fall and spring speakers are structured based on how many people show up for either fall and spring. So you could do a lot in the fall and then do the revenues for the spring. So it’s hard to put a number on it, if we think it’s a right fit, we might spend more, but less than the barriers or obstacles in our way, there still has been an increase in cost, SCott Kelly was 40k a year ago, but then we paid 56500 last fall, so this increases at a rapid pace, and as speakers gain notoriety, so it goes at a more rapid pace than ever before. It appears to happen overnight. cxxi. Byarm: thank you cxxii. Carter: So my question to you is, what and you guys addressed it al ittle bit, what goes to your mind when you try to pick a speaker, what are the checklists you go through when picking a speaker? cxxiii. ?: The main things we do is look at our mission statement, when we have our speaker discussions we start out with 40 speakers, each member of the board nominates 3, we will ask is the speaker distinguished, things like that, once we get to 20 or so, we will ask if people will come to the event, why will beople come. Does that answer your question? cxxiv. Carter: Do you have any grad students on your board? cxxv. ?: One masters student cxxvi. Yan: We have one grad student out of 12-13 cxxvii. Carter: Is that seat specifically for them? Or not really cxxviii. Yan: Typically we open applications to all students, you can be from any major or any place, if we get applications, we look into different components into having more grad students built into dsb, we’ve definitely ahd some on the past. The grad student on the board has been here since sophomore year, cxxix. Collin: chair two years ago was a grad student cxxx. ?: Our main event is at the be involved fair, we also send out emails to epople who havebeen to our past events cxxxi. Carter: I see a pattern, I yield. cxxxii. Ney: thank you for your time, appreciate you for coming in cxxxiii. Student Organization Allocations Committee — Chair Martin Chinn, Financial Advisor Jamey Lockley (7:10 pm) cxxxiv. (19:02 end of DSB) 5 minute recess was taken at the suggestion of the chair at 19:03. cxxxv. Ney: We will resume our meeting now (19:22) cxxxvi. Martin: I’m martin, I’m from soac, I’m the soac chair, yeah, I’ve been in soac the entire year, We want the wages increased for the stipend, that’s our enhancement, that’s it. cxxxvii. Ney: That’s one of the fastest, hearings, so that’s the best award to win, thanks for your time, have a good rest of your evening. cxxxviii. Ney: that concludes the questioning period, we will move into discussion after 90_LCB_01 and 90 LCR 03

B. 90 LCB 01 – Election Code Revisions i. Ney surrendered the gavel ii. Schreier: I’m sorry, who is she? iii. Sarah takes the gavel instead of Jessie iv. Shyloh: I will get right into it, section 1 striking the review of the election coe. As far as I know, we haven’t reviewed the election code 4 weeks after the election, normally it happens 4 weeks before the election. It’s not essential that we review the election code after the review of a cycle, we do an annual report on it. Reads a grammatical edit, then reads section 3: so that is to prevent a case similar to what we had last year, where an assistant election commissioenr leaks information to another ticket to their benefit. Section 4 is read. This is because there is no written statement about a timeline being made, so I thought it would be good to solidify that. Reads the next section (5), this was a grammatical thing. Section 6 is read. That is all the same except we added the FERPA agreement so as not to break any rules by saying peoples’ names. Section 7 is read. The only thing added is to appeal the determination twice. It used to be you could appeal an infinite amount of times. Therefore you could only get 8 valid signatures, space them 10 places apart, and then I’ll get to it later eventually. v. Section 8 is read. I just want to give write-in candidates and people who aren’t sure whether to run as much time as possible vi. 504(a) students of the university of colorado…. This has been changed from no later than 5 weeks to no later than 2 weeks so that it matches with the referenda timeline vii. All petitions to place a measure on the ballot must be submitteddd…. again to line up with the referenda timeline. Then within or on the grounds of any university operated…. this is so that students cannot host campaign materials in their dorm rooms, the only thing that is changed is written confirmation. viii. 704(h) that’s just to make it written confirmation ix. section 13: This is to change when volunteers need to be reported to a time set by the election commissioenr, previously you only needed to report volunteers the week of elections, and there’s 4 other weeks in the campaign, which meant volunteers didn’t need to reported then, so it’s just to hold campaigns responsible for volunteers at all times. x. section 14: THe only thing changed here is via email. xi. Section 15: This is just because email and electronic email is redundant xii. Section 16: This is changing an edit we made in the fall, that campaign expenditure reports needed to be submitted 72 hours after the election, at that time, I hadn’t even received the reports yet, so it doesn’t make sense to post them, xiii. Section 17: This is after a discussion from the appellate court, where we didn’t have enough time to have a second tribunal, it was a grey area to have a second one, this allows us to gather more evidence before anyone makes any decisions. xiv. Martin: Just to clarify, when you said IP, do you mean anything on campus, I can’t just go onto Norlin quad and put like a little poster up? Is that what you mean? xv. Shyloh: No it’s vague, it’s vague specifically for the interpretation, but IP in terms of like, if you want to use the college republicans logo xvi. Carter: Can you elaborate on section 7, 402(b)(4) can you elaborate on that one more time? xvii. Shyloh: the only thing added to that, is that the candidate can only appeal this decision twice. This means that if you’re running for office, theoretically you could only get 8 valid signature, say your 8th signature valid, then your 15th… xviii. I’ll eventually appeal over and over again, they can keep appealing over and over again, but once I get to 7, 17 all valid, that’s when it’ll hit. xix. Ney: It’s essentially a sampling process so we don’t have to validate every single signature, we’ll account for the total amount xx. Carter: Has that happened in the past ever? Or is this just covering it up in the future xxi. Shyloh: I’ve had someone appeal it 3 times, It takes 15-20 minutes to validate one packet xxii. Robinson: Mine is for section 2, assistant election commisioner cannot be members of exec, leg, and appellate, so it’s already established that you can’t hold 2 paying positions in CUSG, but technically feshman council would be part of them xxiii. Shyloh: I completely agree, this is just the grammatical error in it. They can’t be a member of all three, that’s definitely something I might look at for further code edits. xxiv. Robinson: My next one is section 15, it says would be the soonest business day after the election by 5 pm xxv. Shyloh: No because theoretically if there’s a tie, we will have a runoff xxvi. Sarah: Ok, well I have a few questions, going to section 4, in terms of the timeline, isn’t there already an established timeline for when the elections have to begin, so by establishing a new timeline, wouldn’t that contradict a separate part of the election code stating when official events will open up xxvii. Shyloh: Yes you’re correct, the election code does set up certain dates, this is so we can speak to leg council president when ratifications happen, and to talk to the appellate court about when a second tribunal might be, it makes it so that this has to be publicized, so as of now, nobody has to release a timeline, and I can just tell you when all the events were happening, this makes it so that it has to be in writing. xxviii. Sarah: so, section 14, just to clarify, is this just to say that when a volunteer is there, does that mean they have to notify them within 24 hours of them joining the ticket, or just when they’re registered, I don’t know where that 24 hours is coming from, when does it start xxix. Shyloh: As soon as this volunteer becomes affilliated they need to register xxx. Sarah: Last one for me, section 17, is there going to be a hard, is there a hard deadline for when election results must be finalized, I could see the tribunal having a second run extending the process of elections through a really much longer than we anticipated, that normally has to line up with the changing of sessions at the end of spring semesters, so I’m confused, is there a hard deadline, where you can make appeals for a second tribunal, is this openended? xxxi. Ney: Fir the first one, leg sessions are based on elections, and yes, it is possible to have it be extended I guess, but this is outlining that decisions need to be released after the 48 hours of the first tribunal. xxxii. Reagan: So quick question that’s not specific to any section, but where volunteer is mentioned several time, what’s the definition of volunteer? It was xxxiii. Secretary: asked a question about IP xxxiv. Gile: Move to move 90LCB01 to second reading xxxv. seconded xxxvi. Is there any discussion? xxxvii. Ayes and nays taken xxxviii. It was moved to second reading C. 90 LCR 03 – A Resolution to Support ROTC Student Parking i. Moving on (sarah) to have a silent council… moving on to 90LCR03, this is a resolution to support ROTC Sutdent Parking ii. Reagan: So to give some background on why we brought this bill forward. It touches on it in resolution history, rotc students have pt training almost every weekday morning. This occurs at the stadium, but parking is not offered for ROTC students, frequently rotc students are ticketed while they are at training. Given the role ROTC students play on campus as leaders and giving service to their country, we want to give the opportunity for discounted or free parking passes. This has been evolving for the past month or so with parking services, we are going to trade off on reading this, giving some background more or less iii. Ney: So that’s the background of what we are doing regarding this issue, we want to view the value of what ROTC students are bringing to this, we want to give students the opportunity to participate in this. There’s definitely adequate space for that lot, pretty much all of those spots are open, that’s why we see it as necessary to force students to park so far away or when it’s dark outside, what we want is to get the parking passes for active rotc students in the lots closest to PT activities, these are 359 and 360, they’re the two next to folsom on the southern side, north of farrand field, what we are looking to suggest to administration and the university, these should be provided ideally for free or at least for reduced costs since they will only use these for certain times of day, I’ll let jake go into the wherasses iv. Reagan, the first whereas honors ROTC students, the second one is about the bill, the fourth has to deal with what josh said, there’s not a lot of demand during the timeframe we have set up for 445 to 715 am, so it makes sense, v. Ney: I’ll read the sections, what we’re hoping to do as leg council, leg council encourages CU-Boulder parking services to provide semesterly parking passes for active roto students at a significantly reduced price, the reason for those times is this typically happens from 5-7am since that’s typically when pt happens and that at the end is typically when people otherwise start coming to campus. I hope that we gain all your support in passing this vi. Reagan: To add onto this, I’ve spoken to dozens of rotc students who said this is a high priority for them, while this seems like a mian thing, it actually will have a pretty significant impact on it. I think this is a great opportunity for leg council to support rotc students. vii. Carter: Um, have you talked to parking services about those two lots, and how many people occupy them, so they actually have slots open? viii. Reagan: So I sat down twice with the director of parking services, and this is feasible given the lots they have at that time, there’s the flexibility to do it, what’s hindered them in the past, is that several groups come saying we have stuff early in the morning, and they want passes, and they don’t generally give special privileges to any group, but we all felt that rotc played a special role on campus, and providing legislative council support, they should get this. THey have the space, they can do it ix. Carter, They don’t want to have a special combination, that’ pandora’s box? x. Reagan: Yeah, they don’t want special access to certain groups, without a legislative council resolution backing it, because you also have the skate club, all these different groups that have a vested interest getting early, but they can differentiate it with us? xi. Carter: that clarifies it, I had another question, but Ill waite xii. GazariK: thanks for putting this together, how many are we talking roughly? xiii. Reagan: We had the veterans affairs liaison reqch out to the various branches on campus, we have the numbers for all of them but one, I can get them all to you in an email, parking services is aware of what it would entail, theo nly branch that hasn’t communicated is… navy, air force, marines have all confirmed xiv. Byarm: So what was the necessary, what is it necessary for it to be free, as I understand most rotc students get free college, but that’s where they want to go, why do they need that free parking, can they possibly pay for it xv. Ney: A little bit of a loaded question, they sign the contract for joining the branch for X amount of year, that is kind of by itself excluded. It doesn’t have to be free, it can be reduced or free, we haven’t decided, or we aren’t going to decide what that looks like, that’s for parking services to look at, sometimes a lot of parking lots regardless dont allow you to park at any time, that means its rarely a convoluted system, parking lots after 5, some lots have no parking, some lots have pass only, some are free at certain times and some are paid at others, we just want to guarantee they won’t get in trouble or have infractions for something they are mandated to do xvi. Martin: You don’t have to lean forward for me by the way, just out of curiosity, it’s nice to be ontime for obligations, but what is the penaltty for showing up late, are they risking their own money, what’s the penalty? xvii. Reagan: I don’t know how they deal with students that are late, a lot of ticketing I have heard of happens right after an rotc event ends, and it ends right at the dot, and that can conflict with different time frames parking uses, there could be some times they can park. xviii. Sullivan: So if this resolution passed, I think there would be an increase in people commute for car, do you suspect an increase in traffic? xix. Ney: Yeah, so first of all, it’s not we’re talking about thousands, it’s smaller than that, the main thing is campus doesn’t have traffic at 4am anyways, when they are leaving yes there’s more people, but they would be going opposite of traffic, so I don’t think there would be too dramatic like at 5pm. xx. Carter: So, I like this resolution, it’s very interesting, buecause I have a similar issue in terms of grad students I talk to, I’m not going into that, but one thing I do have is like you were saying parking services think, they’re going to look at this and think this is generalized, I don’t know if you made this generalized so they could accommodate rotc students, but I’m curious, was that your mindset, because if it was not, but maybe we can cater it directly to the services, instead of making it specifically to rotc students, just asking them to open up the lots to 4:45 to 7:15, but those are probably going to be the ones that are going to be there, that’s my thinking, if we can do it that way, then they won’t be messing with their own morals… xxi. Reagan: so I in meeting with parking services before drafting this bill, we talked about what are the necessary things they need to have met, and have the opportunity for rotc students, so like you pointed out this language reflects the views of us in relation to parking services and what they’d feel comfortable with. I think this would complicate things if all students could use it. We want to make it specific to ROTC students for this particular reason, if we want to support another group we should do it in another bill, because expanding this would make it far less likely that parking services would be able to handle it xxii. Ney: Making it open reflects your statement earlier about the pandora’s box, if it’s general, if I get to UMC to work this time at the morning, it could open up more issues if people just leave their cars there, we want to not put it just on parking services if it’s a huge problem, we want to be supportive of ROTC services that have to be there at this time, not necessarily people that would like to be. xxiii. Roybal: So I’m gonna start by saying I do support ROTC students, I have a suggestion and a concern. Suggestion is, I don’t understand why parking services wouldn’t, I know that it ends at 7am the pay to park, I don’t understand why they wouldn’t bump that to 715, but then any student can still park there as long as they pay to park at 715, and then it doesn’t open up this precedent for other student organizations to ask for the same type of service, I mean we are late at night, I get it, I think it opens that up xxiv. Reagan: Those are both very good points. With regard to the time, from my understanding, PT for all branches ends at 7am, this is also a problem like you said where pay to park ends AT 7, so many students who get out right at 7 get out and they see tickets right before xxv. Roybal: That’s why I’m saying extend it xxvi. Reagan: To my understanding they are not willing to do that. I wish it was that easy. That’s the second point, if it’s all students I still think it complicates things, and that’s why we want to support all rotc students, that would differentiate them from the rest of the student population. They are performing a service the rest of the students are not, that should warrant this privilege xxvii. Gazarik: those were my similar questions and concerns, maybe I can see other student groups and other schools making a similar case with similar support for a resolution, I think you can sometimes see that they are doing a job, they are on a contract to serve, so would you consider it a job, there are consequences for every action, so what happens if students have a really early shift and they have to go to school and they have to have a job, I think this is opening a box, and I have heard these complaints before from other students. xxviii. Ney: To answer the first part of that, the difference between ROTC students, because it is a contract, it could be much beyond the scope. I think work is kind of much beyond what we are trying to do. They have signed this contract and they could be affiliated with the university, although there are other groups, if you start to expand that then it becomes a campus wide parking issue, and there are problems with that, thsi allows people for people in particular that are mandated to do things with this extra job. It’s possible, but I think that this is such a specialized gorup for having this, xxix. Gazarik, maybe a better way to ask, what makes you think rotc such a different group that we can support it, when you are writing xxx. Reagan: When you have members of the military that are putting their lives ong the line xxxi. Carter: Everything was already said… sarah: is it a point of discussion Carter: it is but it’s also a question/statement, is there any way, you’ve talked to parking services, have they seen this, and said this is exactly what we need xxxii. Reagan: We discussed the language of the bill and what it would be referring to, and the numbers they needed, what they needed on their end was making sure they have passes that give this sort of privilege, rarely they have parking passes for a very specific amount of time per day in the week, but the language of the bill from our conversations is consistent with the conversation they’ve had. xxxiii. Carter: could we emphasize, just a little more than you put, for the summary, the differences between ROTC and all other organizations so that other organizations dont, because we know it will open up something, but maybe we can reduce it more so that way parking services don’t get nervous, maybe just put a few more sentences in that xxxiv. Reagan: Yeah I think you are right that it could set a precedent for other student orgs, but if we make it clear this is our bar for this and it’s a very high bar, we can get very clear about this pandoras box and what we’re not opening xxxv. Ney: we can definitely do that, but remember it’s a resolution, it’s not a precedent, we are not going to be referring to it way back then, yeah it’s a historical document. xxxvi. Reagan: and to refer to what I said earlier, the bar is high xxxvii. Sherwood: I want to say I do support this in making it easier for them, a couple things they have questions on, is there a research into the percentage in rotc sutdents that use cars to get to training, if people use the bus for training, is this necessary xxxviii. Reagan: There is not a study that has been done to my knowledge, I do know that some rotc students live on campus they do walk, there’s a significant number that live off campus xxxix. Sherwood, to go off of that, I would recommend researching that and having some sort of statstic on that, I would imagine also the transportation timetable is reduced but I want to see that in the resolution and have those datapoints, maybe that’s one recommendation I would like on record xl. Kennedy proxy (allen): during the conversations with parking services, they haven’t asked for subsidies for this right? xli. Reagan: No they have not. They haven’t expected us to cover that, and I haven’t heard anything that would suggest we would want to cover that. If they decide to charge a small fee, this would still provide income which is very small compared to the fee that is charged. xlii. VP: we will go int odiscussion xliii. Altshuler: I do think this is a good bill, one suggestion I have is we make it more decisive instead of reduce prices just make it free of cost, but that’s just my preference. I definitely do agree this will set a precedent, it might not be bad, but I think once we do this it will open the door for groups to come in, I’ve worked really late nights and oftentimes requested for the bosses at the rec center to get passes for students working after a certain hour because it is dangerous for them to walk home tonight. So I think that’s something to be aware of, I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing, it might be a good thing, but I disagree in that it won’t be referenced in the future, because it’s a big step, but I don’t want to underplay that, but I’m not opposed to it xliv. Ney: Just kind of as a response to that, last semester I took on a parking initiative because it was something I was concerned about that, from the information I gathered, the university is not currently interested in that, they actually indicated they are not in support of that at this time, that’s why it’s diffficult to automatically assume that it will set a precedent for other peopl, that’s not what they’re wanting to do right now, I don’t think they’d support that. While I do agree it could be stronger to go for free parking in the resolution, but this is not a negotiation, they’re not going to come back with a number and we negotiate, we are suggesting they are offering free parking or singificantly reduced prices. We don’t know what they want to do, maybe they want significantly reduced costs, maybe if they can’t do free parking they could at least reduce it, it should be open to them because we ultimately want to be supportive of ROTC students, but we don’t have control over the issue so that’s why it’s a suggestion xlv. Reagan: In the conversations I had it was not clear if they could ensure they could do a free pass, so we wanted to give a secondary option and remain in the onfines of what the parking said is viable. xlvi. Altshuler; the way I read it was reduced OR free parking, so IF you want it to make it stricter I would suggest it, but it’s only a preference, if you offer the scape goat of reduced parking, that’s automatically what they’ll go for, where as free parking puts you at a stronger psotion xlvii. Robinson: I don’t support this, the reason why, is ecause of we took ROTC out of the name, we wouldn’t think twice about this. I understand the argument. I think we are putting ROTC on a pedestal, I’m a military brat, I get it, but this is so unnecessary, they can park there up til 7 with an affordable cost, but even if they didn’t do that, I don’t know this just seems like we are granting privileges to certain students. Most profs and paid people don’t even have parking on campus, that’s where I’m coming from as well, I see the arguments, honestly if we took rotc out of the name we wouldn’t think twice. We could possibly get money from the university, I think there’s other options that haven’t been explored, I don’t think that’s ok. xlviii. Gazarik: so correct me if I’m wrong, I looked up, 360 is free til 7:30, so, according, maybe I’m not looking at the most recent one, I just pulled up the parking map, that’s monday thru friday, because one of my rotc friends said it was free til 7:30, so maybe I don’t have the most up to date map 359 is not by the way xlix. Reagan: the information I got is what I got from parking services and experiences from ROTC students, I would be really surprised if students could park there for free. So my information is based on what I got from parking services l. Gazarik: That’s what they have on the website for 360 li. Ney: We can look into that and confirm that, maybe it’s wrong, another point that was brought up that I would like to discuss, I don’t think we are putting them up on a pedestal whatsover, there are valid reasons they should have on campus, claiming there is affordable parking, and that’s a gross generalization that assume everything is affordable at this campus, so I want to bring that up about affordable parking on campus, there could be a lii. Gazarik: It woudl be a permit not a pay, so it’s on week time liii. Reagan: In our conversations with parking, this would provide permits, for a price, for that time, so if you scroll down to section 1 it is to provide semesterly parking passes liv. Gazarik: It’s not just by hour? lv. Reagan: Yeah so if I’m an rotc student, fall semester 2019 I can get this permit for a price for certain hours of the morning for pt lvi. Carter: only thing I wanted to say was I think everybody in this room hopefully knows what a resolution is, we all know it is just a suggestion, we are not making laws, I think it’s important to put in and be as precise as we can, because you’re going on record as to what you’re supporting. It might work, it might not work, it’s letting the world know what you guys hold value to. This big group big organization holds this to a certain value holds what I say what I do I can jump off and use this as leverage, that’s what I meant when I was saying those things lvii. Altshuler, in the interest of time, I move to move 90_LCR_03 to second reading lviii. VP: Without objections there will be a roll call vote lix. Emma: 90LCR03 gets moved to second reading lx. Ney: thank you everyone I appreciate it. D. Budget discussion and whatnot i. (20:25) Ney: (has the gavel) Thank you everyone for that adjustment to the agenda, we will now enter into the budget discussion and voting period in the meeting, we will be discussing the cost centers in the order they are heard in the agenda for your reference. I will be strictly enforcing 2 times you are allowed to speak and roberts rules, you have 2 minutes, 2 yields, just remember the number 2, and be ree to call an parliamentary inquery. Any clarifiactions? ii. Roybal: So during this discussion is when we approve the enhancmeents, so we do them indivdiually? iii. Ney: Perfect segue, we will go by an enhancement by enhancement basis, and then we will be approving the full cost center package, so after each enhancement, it will be 0% base budget plus for a total budget of that. The wording has been posted by Senator Altshuler in slack, once again I will try to say it in a different manner. After that, the full enhancement should be approved for the full budget for the total amount you all decided to pass. Does anyone have questions on that? iv. Awesome, they we will go into OCHNR discussion, does anyone have any discussion? v. Altshuler: I’m going to make a motion, Move to approve OCHNR Enhancement for increase to hourly wages and benefit rates for the amount of 10372 vi. second. vii. The enhancement was approved viii. Althsuler: I will make another motion ix. Robinson: Just a question though, not to make this motion, but is it possible, if there’s a bunch of budgets, and we unanimously agree on the budget, can we bundle it? x. Altshuler, I would not recommend, and also my experience is that every enhancement deserves its time xi. Altshuler, Move to approve OCHNR fiscal year budget 2019-2020 base budget 0% plus enhancements totaling $452,116 xii. The motion was seconded and it moved to a roll call vote. xiii. Ney: And with that the base budget was approved for the amount of $452,116 xiv. Ney: For recreation services, is there any discussion or motions? xv. Robinson: just saying something since I talked to the chair, he just wanted to make sure since there were questions about the professional staff, I think we always forget yes it is student funded, but it’s also a business too, it’s a business with a huge budget and they do have a lot of student turnover, so students who do use it, I don’t think hiring FTEs is really an issue, I think it will better the student experience, when there are more student jobs, to train the employees, whenever they decide to graduate it will be for the best. xvi. Altshuler: thank you mr. president, request for information, I will read through all the enhancements, increased hourly wages is… 7485 xvii. (confirms numbers) xviii. Althsuler: Ok thanks, move to approve the rec center enhancement for increased hourly wages and benefit rate for $74875 xix. it was approved by an ayes and nays vote xx. Altshuler: move to approve rec center enhancement for outdoor programs coordinator for the amount of $32,324 xxi. It was aprpoved by an ayes and nays vote xxii. Altshuler: move to approve rec center enhancement for operating expenses at bear creek for $12921 xxiii. It was approved by an ayes and nays vote xxiv. Altshuler: move to approve rec center budget pool adjustment , will it be … move to approve recenter budget pool enhancement for auxiliary revenue and expense increase for $0 xxv. It was approved by an ayes and nays vote xxvi. Altshuler, thanks for bearing with us, it’s a lot, it will make xxvii. Move to approve rec center enhancment for budget pool changes for $0 xxviii. it was approved by and ayes and nays vote xxix. Request for information, jason, the base budget enhancement.. xxx. Move to approve FY 2019-2020 base budget 0% + enhancements totaling 11,447,223 xxxi. A roll call vote was taken and it was approved xxxii. Ney: So one more thing with the rec center, although it is separate from their budget, we will be doing this now, there’s an additional fee allocation for the rec center fields, and the others on there, we will do them tomorrow. SO is there any discussion on that additional allocation xxxiii. Ney: It’s outdoor rec fields, it’s an additional allocation xxxiv. Ney: any discussion? xxxv. Althsuler: Move to approve additional allocation FY 2019-2020, (point of information is the amount 732,161) for the additional allocations of outdoor recreation fields for the amount of $732161 xxxvi. Schreier: is this a one time payment, every year? xxxvii. Jason: Nan can expalin this better, but it is a referendum that all fee paying students pay 10.75 to the outdoor rec field, this budget is that 10.75 times the estimated students that will be paying student fees. xxxviii. Carter: Is this, this is, we’ve always been paying this xxxix. Jason: that is correct xl. Byarm: and this on ly goes to the rec center to take care of the fields xli. Ney: Kind of xlii. Nan: It is for the fields, we are in charge of it, you are in charge of the fee xliii. SChreier, what is the local schools funding, xliv. Ney: to explain, every school is allocated a certain amount of money, from leeds, that’s about 1.60, an amount you get per student in your local school, that’s what funds local schools around campus xlv. Altshuler: and it is a referendum as well…. xlvi. Michael: Call the question xlvii. Ney: That is out of order xlviii. Ney: all those in favor say aye xlix. Ney: Wit hthat, the previous motion is approved l. Ney: we will move on to li. Kvcu lii. Altshuler: Move to approve the budget pool adjustments for kvcu for $0 liii. The motion was approved liv. Altshuler: request for information is this amount… ok thank you lv. Altshuler: Move to approve the KVCU FY 2019-2020 base budget of 0% plus enhancements for 147,042 lvi. A rollcall vote was taken lvii. The motion carried and was approved lviii. Ney: that concludes KVCU, now we will move on to the center for student involvement, is there any discussion? lix. Martin: So sarah and I we were talking and we are uncomfortable with spending student fees on smaller events and increasing the budget for a crafting program, and talking about this, we realize others share the same opinion as well. it’s just something to consider. Also the annual student leadership training is a redundant event as well, so we feel uncomfrotable increasing the budget to keep funding this event, as it will be using student fees on something that is unneeded and unnecessary on this campus, especially for leaders that are being invited to this event that are already invited to other leadership things on campus lx. Robyal: I actually have concerns with both of those exact enhancements, their goal this semester was to get 60 people, only 34 attended, next year is 100, I don’t see them jumping to that in the next year, so I don’t want to increase student fees for a leadership training where many people might not show up. I was told that the majority of students that attended were members of CU GOLD, therefore they are already in leadership trainings, while advertising was made to other students, they didn’t go. Even if they might’ve needed it. As far as the weekly craft programming. I understand the need for small event programming, that’s why we fund student orgs, I’m sure there’s a craft club or something similar, maybe the need to better market those clubs for better opportunities from all students for a program that only serves 20 students max lxi. Perkins-Johson: Currently I asked Kristin for stats on the involvement and amount of students, I posted them in slack, she did mention a couple of these when we asked her questions, I want to draw your attention to that, they’re low. And yes I know these were pilot programs, but if they’re not servign the marjority if the student body we shouldn’t fund it. They are asking for 69730 for student orgs position, and I think that as they say, only 15 percent of their 9 person staff goes to student orgs which is interesting because they were created for student orgs, So I think that’s necessary, I think they should refocus on student orgs and helping them through the budget process, through buffocnnect, especially through the contract extension they’ll have, they’ll have other facets. In my personal opinion the popup prorams and weekly crafting programs are a lesser need and the staff should be less focused wioth those because like Robyal said our individual schools have such smaller events that we can go to and they should be more focused on helping student orgs because being on reps council we get more student orgs confused and they’ll say talk to your liaison and they’ll say who. That’s what I think, I yield lxii. Robinson: To kind of further that point especially being the pseaker I get tons of student org requests, but most of them I don’t bring to council, so I have to send them bring back to CSI, that’s a big issue, CSI is just so overworked and the increase request, I agree with the coordinator increase, I’m still confused there’s only 9 people, I feel like there should be more advisors and be more educated. I don’t support the leadership traingin, I wanted a specific answer, but this is just leadership training for people that are already leaders. Because it’s not avertisded to them it’s hard for them to access it, it won’t benefit people I wnat to benefit. CUGOLD is also funded under CSI, so I don’t understand why they we;re part of this, the one thing I don’t support is popup programming, it’s not inclusive, it’s supposed to be a surprise thing, epople are supposed to just be surprised, I knew about it because I was at the board, but my friends were upset because they weren’t at the umc and they were engineers and wanted to be there but couldn’t go, I think it’s kind of flawed, I think csi needs to focus to bigger audiences than just 20 people lxiii. Schreier: Yeah mostly the same, I’m concerned about mission creep, they’re best as an organizer of student involvement, not creating it, so I don’t see 4 through 8 or whatever it is I yield lxiv. Altshuler: Thank you, sam said most of it, I have one concern that they have a large fundbalance, why give enhancements if you have a large fundbalance, I understand a little bit of a cushion. so I think if they want to fund smaller programs it can come out of that we can see stabilityu and these events could be successful, that’s when ti’s appropriate for enhancements instead of approving weekly craft programs. Another thing that I’d like to see some other discussion on since my co-senator and I are on the fence for the porgram council enhancment lxv. Michael( Crosstalk) I am for this, they do itall, the stuff they do for organizations, also the welcomefest, the film series, and the sponsorships they get for events, they’re amazing. The reason konrad said, csi managin involvement, program council is a little bit separate from csi, and they are supposed to be al ittle bit, I don’t think this money is enough, they have so much turnout, they have some of the most turnout, club156 is becoming hugely popular, I support PC having something to do something not necessarily to the scale, but to have some consistency lxvi. Gazarik: we talked about this, from engineering standpoint, there is a want for this, I got feedback on getting the welcome fest even bigger, but there wasn’t a huge interest in a spring thing, this 21k is a big amount of money, they thought it was right in the middle. lxvii. Altshuler: Engineering is leaning not in support? lxviii. Gazarik yes lxix. Altshuler: a comment on the popups programming, while we realize it’s not getting to differetn groups and schools, it makes sense to me that it’s not in the UMC, from an arts and science perspective we have a lot of students enjoy it, from a schoolwide perspective, most schools are throwing individual events, so if we feel like we are not doing enough of that. lxx. Gazarik: yeah just from our standpoint, we htought the coordinator position was important. We are concerned and frustrated, they were excited about buffconnect and ucec getting it there, but since we don’t fall under any of the 9’s jurisdiction, we were frustrated we didn’t have any support, and none of the 9 went and supported us, we are hopefully expecting this position to create more support for these orgs, and there’ll be more resources to support. we did happen to be in the beinvolved fair, some of the engineering groups were in the fall, maybe in an engineering school thing, people should be excited about that lxxi. Carter: Yeah a lot of it was already said. But kind of playing devil’s advocate a bit, it sounds like CSI is good at big organization, it sounds like they can organize organizations themselves, and they want to do smaller little things here and there, which is not necessarily a bad thing, all orgs need to grow some way, if you become experts in one thing, and you have involvement in your name, I’m not necessarily against most of this stuff, but it’s unfortuante things didn’t go as well as they could have, the thing that only had 30 something people show up, that could also be due to the weather that they are speaking of, but that’s unfortuante, and then the popup, I don’t really know I don’t do those things, I don’t think grad students even want it, I like it, but I don’t think we have time, which is very sad, unless it was catered towards to select groups, so maybe if they went to different schools, instead of just a whole generalized vibe, then they feel they can jump in, other than that I do think that I feel funny about the annual leadership training, I think it’s somewhat redundant, and I feel like it’s unfortunate, I didn’t hear about it, I guess you needed to be in a certain organization to be in it, which makes it even more unfortuante, I didn’t hear anybody hear about it, that’s very sad. Yeah I’m basically saying I agree with you guys, and throw my 2 cents there for the record lxxii. Gile: So going after Carter, I will say #4, I am in one of these programs and I didn’t even hear about it, that’s what I’m having trouble supporting, based on attendance and the comprehensive advertisment plan , I can’t understand why I would support that when they could empower smaller student organizations that better caters to our community rather than to a natinoal program for ao nezsie fits all. I know elevate ticket one of the things we talked about was student experience, one of the recurring things came up was freshmen was welcomefest in the beginning but also to round up the end of the year, so I’m all for #8 because engineering might not have heard the feedback but this is something they said they would be excited about lxxiii. Perkins: I’m back, so let’s talk about PC. The cost of talent is like continuously rising and it just keeps getting more and more expensive, especially big name artists in the EDM genre and such, and Jack Johnson everyone’s getting more expensive, also I agree with MAddie, everyone we talked to we love music, and having a basically free concert in you backyard that you can’t get anywhere else besides colelge and these awesomely catered events to students. The leadership training, there is only 37 people that showed up, that sucks, it was a snowstorm too, but 100 people that are already leaders in there, out of the 33k we have, that’s another event that does not have the scope CSI should have. Oh the beinvolved spring, you mentioned senator gazarik that engineering people club leaders had said that there weren’t many tables that were fille,d that’s cuz spring was kind of thrown together, not many student orgs knew about it, I talked to multiple. That’s kind of what that is, I said there should be more student orgs that they service. I am in support of more funding because they don’t have enough tables to fit everyone, which is ironic. lxxiv. Byarm: I’m in support of the popup program, it’s a great little thing that they do, it’s aimed at the student that is just walking by, they’re very busy, it’s a little things they can do they can brag about, it’s a good spend of one of their enhancements, eveyrone else though you can cut that lxxv. Carter: I don’t think I should vote on the popup program since I don’t have instagram lxxvi. Ney: You can also abstain, but I don’t have an instagram either lxxvii. Schreier: Yeah, we have two other concerns, the concern with the event funding is that yeah we can tax, but it’s good to enjoy that, but you have to say that 20k is worth taxing the entire school for, is that within our purpose? Law school obviously does not benefit from large events, you’re welcome to come to ours, but they’re very legal oriented, if you’re taxing the students for it, I mean they’re near free. For #3 we are also concerned, CSI generally has a lot of enhancements, so they keep adding programs, and then tell us they need another employee to add them. So if you add these programs, all of asudden, the 9 are able to cope with the current load. If you keep adding programs, you are just adding more and more employees. You do have to pay employees, we are concerned about #3 as well. lxxviii. We’re great on #9 lxxix. Robinson:Yeah I agree with that, I agree with hiring that position for what they do, that’s why, but I also agree with that, with all these programs, maybe they’re stretching their reach way to far, that’s a good point, I know they ask for a lot of enhancements, this is getting idciulous now. I do want them to grow, I want them to growin the right direciton, I yield. lxxx. Rep. Martin: Oh no I’m sorry sorry I’m messing with you lxxxi. Altshuler: It looks like we are inline for motions, request for information on the numbers for hourly wages and all the other enhancements. lxxxii. Altshuler: I will do motions then, I move to approve CSI’s enhancement to increase hourly wages and benefit rates for 6882 lxxxiii. We will do a vote on acclamation, it passes lxxxiv. Altshuler: Mr. President I move to approve the CSI enhancement for the buffconnect contract extension for 20459 lxxxv. The motion was approved by acclamation lxxxvi. I move to approve CSI enhancement for coordinator for student orgs position for the amount of 69730 lxxxvii. A roll call vote was taken lxxxviii. Ney: With that the center for student involvement’s coordinator was approved. lxxxix. Altshuler: Point of clarification, can I make a motion for approval and still vote no ( no you can’t) xc. An argument of parliamentary motions; Megen corrected the faulty secretary and president and other parliamentary missteps xci. Altshuler: Move to approve CSI Enhancement for annual student leadership training for 10768 xcii. Althuler: I’d like a roll call vote as well xciii. A rollcall vote was amde xciv. VP: IT’S failed xcv. Ney: The enhancement for annual student leadership training for 10768 has not passed and will not be added xcvi. Altshuler: I move to approve the CSI enhancement for the Be Involved Fair for 5384 xcvii. A roll call vote was amde on the motion xcviii. The motion was approved xcix. Althsuler: I move to approve the CSI enhancement for the Weekly Craft Program for 7017 c. Altshuler: I would like a roll call vote ci. A roll call vote was taken cii. VP: This failed ciii. Ney: The weekly craft programming for 7017 has not been approved and will not be added on to the student fee package civ. Altshuler: Move to approve CSI enhancement for pop up programming for 8077 cv. point of order byarm wants to speak cvi. Byarm: I know it’s a small event, but I feel this is important, and it does exactly it’s goal, the students are just walking, I want to throw it out there before we vote cvii. Perkins: I want to remind everyone of I love mondays that does basically the same thing except every monday. Sorry. cviii. A roll call vote was moved into cix. Ney: The center for student involvement’s popup programming has not been aprpoved and it will not be added to the student fee package cx. Altshuler: thank you. Move to approve CSI enhancement for program council large event funding for the amount of 21536. cxi. A roll call vote was entered into. cxii. Ney: with that the csi’s enhancement for program council large event funding has been approved cxiii. Altshuler: Move to approve CSI enhancement for program council terraplas for 10768 cxiv. Robinson, this is the one that is budget neutral, they want this in their budget while it is in the CUSG budget cxv. Allen: Theres no COI for me to vote? cxvi. Ney: You can vote cxvii. Emma: I want a vote of acclamation it would be cool cxviii. Ney: as there were no votes of discussion we will vote by acclamation…. it was taken… and approved cxix. Altshuler: Move to approve CSI enhancement for budget pool adjustments for the amount of 0$ cxx. The motion passed by acclamation cxxi. Altshuler: Point of information, what is the base budget plus approved enhancements cxxii. Jason: the amount is 1,494,839 cxxiii. Altshuler: I move to approve the CSI base budget of FY19-20 with 0% plus unduckables and approved enhancements for the total of 1,494,839 cxxiv. A roll call vote was entered into and the motion was approved cxxv. Ney: that concludes CSI, with that, I will do a raise of hands interst, do we want to go to the bathroom do a quick break cxxvi. Ney: It apperas continue along is the consensus cxxvii. VRC is next, is there discussion? cxxviii. Althsuler: Jason request for information, just to confirm, the hourly minimum is… confirms numbers cxxix. Problems were found in the document cxxx. The numbers were corrected cxxxi. Altshuler: I move to approve VRC enhancement for hourly minimum wage and compression for the amount of $4474 cxxxii. The motion was approved by acclamation cxxxiii. ALtshuler: I move to approve CSI enhancement for salary equity increase for VRC staff for cxxxiv. wrong cost center cxxxv. motion died cxxxvi. Altshuler: I move to approve VRC’s enhancement for salary equity increase for VRC staff for a total of 10986 cxxxvii. Approved by acclamation cxxxviii. Altshuler: I move to approve VRC enhancement for professional leadership and development for 3231 cxxxix. Approved by acclamation cxl. Althshuler: Move to approve VRC enhancement for revenue adjustment for alternative breaks for 0$ cxli. by acllamationThe enhancement regarding revenue adjustment has been approved cxlii. An accurate number was requested from jason by altshuler cxliii. Move to approve the VRC fiscal year 2019-2020 base budget plus approved enhancements for the total amount of 471,863 cxliv. A roll call vote was entered into cxlv. Ney: with that the VRC’s base budget (motion above was read aloud) has been approved cxlvi. Ney: that concludes VRC, we will now move on to CEB cxlvii. Gile: I’d just like to say for #2 the CEB does some incredible work, and sitting on the board and seeing the cuts that have to be made for culturally relevant smaller orgs, we should consider they had to say no to a lot of people. A lot of aspects have been pushed to the wayside, I feel confident saying the deserve this enhancement cxlviii. Altshuler: I see a decreased stipend position, and if I could have a refresher cxlix. Allen: Mavjuda, her pay would be transfered to leg staff payroll cl. Altshuler: cool I yield cli. Carter: For cultural diversity and awareness, um, I’m just, do you do we not do that right now? I’m curious, and on top of that, what do we mean by diversity, cultural diversity? I had these questions before, but it shot out before I could pull if up, could someone clarify, the CEB, what do you mean by cultural diversity and increasing that, what are we doing with that? clii. Allen: is that addressed to me? cliii. Carter: anyone, I yield to anyone? cliv. Carter: Who can answer the question clv. Robinson: What do they mean by that? They are a huge funding board with half a million dollars to allocate to different student orgs, it’s a group of individuals with different ethnicities and cultures, what Gile was saying, bringing under-reperesented communities is a big part, it’s important to get people funded that need that big platform people don’t have it. The GSA with the drag show that’s a huge thing to put on, and CEB puts it on because they wouldn’t get it otherwise. Diversity is up to what CEB and the board decides, they take under-represented ethnicities, and they give them the funding for their platform. Their mission statements is to fund cultural gaps on campus clvi. Carter: follow-up, these are organizations that can’t go through csi, they have to go through CEB, or feel more comfortable? clvii. Robinson: So all things usually have to go through CSI, CEB is just such a huge funding board to get that amount they do that because they are culturally relevant, there’s a liason for CSI. It’s still a funding board, they just get a bigger amount. clviii. Erin: I’m the CEB advisor, we have half a million dollars, about 2 thirds goes to student events, so viola davis is coming, we do a collaboration with DSB, we have a founder of the METOO movement, we try to figure out means of having conversations on campus that are a smaller scale, but bringing it to a larger audience. Both small as well as large, these events have been happening for 10 years. We are trying to create safe spaces for under- represented student populations clix. Allen: Everything I would say has already been say, but they do a good job of funding view-point neutrally. Some are political hot-buttons, but they’ve also been clx. Requests for information on amounts clxi. Altshuler: I move to approve CEB’s enhancement request for hourly wages and benefit rates for $680 clxii. Ayes and nays were taken, the motion was approved clxiii. Althsuler: Move to approve CEB’s enhancement for Student organization allocations of 32,304 clxiv. It was approved clxv. Altshuler: Move to approve the enhancement to decrease stipend position for 1965 clxvi. The motion was approved by acclamation clxvii. Altshuler: Request for information on the basebudget + enhancements number clxviii. Altshuler: I move to approve CEB’s base budget for FY19-2020 plus unduckables and enhancements totaling 525726 clxix. A roll call voet ewas entered into and the base budget plus unduckables and enhancements was approved. clxx. Ney: Alright, DSB, is there any discussion clxxi. Altshuler: Request for information, the event funding amount would be 21536. Excellent. And yes ok. Mr. President I move to approve DSB’s enhancement for 21,536 clxxii. Gazarik: Yeah so we had our time with DSB, they did a lot, it seemed there were other options they could have investigated a little bit further. It’s hard to make an argument for increasing student tickets, but faculty and staff could be increased to cover this 20k. That way I don’t think I’m in support of this, we should invest in a long term solution rather than raising it. clxxiii. Allen: Echoing that, I would say, faculty and staff do provide a lot, I think the community could pay more, I understand their argument, but at the same time this is focused on students and students are the ones subsidizing that community price. clxxiv. Sherwood: I have a question, so if this were to not pass, is their any guarantee they wouldn’t raise the price of student tickets. I get the argument that yes we don’t want students to pay it for enhancements. There’s also no guarantee they won’t just raise the clxxv. Shcreier: Quickly to that point, fortunately we have budgetary power, we could pass a bill, 2 you could revoke membership who is on that board. So you can impeach every single member. As for the actual enhancement, I know that’s crazy, but that’s what you should do. I don’t, the law school, doesn’t agree with this, because we don’t bring in big speakers because of the cost. I think the value for 65k-75k, I don’t think it’s there. Just getting big names is not an appropriate use of money. I mean colin powell gave us a quote for 100k, sotomayor came for free. I think you should be more cautious of this idea. Education has gotten this idea clxxvi. Robinson: They haven’t asked for an enhancement for a while. It’s not even just asking for more money, I don’t understand how to express it, but we should pay more money, and student fees shouldn’t have to increase it, staff should pay more for it. I just don’t see raising student ticket prices for an event we are already paying for. I yield clxxvii. ALtshuler: My co senator and I discussed this a lot, I have been apparent to resist raising student fees wherever possible, however we agree DSB brings value to campus. I think our personal outcome in the way to move forward is that if leg council in the future wants to start seeing the same tier of speakers come, as far as like, importance, then we can kind of talk when they have another enhancement, I fwe feel strongly about that, we should have our rep speak to the board in that way, what we’d like to see, maybe not focusing on big names so much as bringing more distinguished speakers. So I think, that’s where we settled, so we will vote yes for the enhancement, I think we definitely agree that being more innovative and crafty in the way we are funding this cost center is a conversation we need to have clxxviii. Altshuler: tried to make the motion again, point of order by Michael, a motion is already on the floor clxxix. A roll call vote was entered into clxxx. VP: The Motion passed clxxxi. The distinguished speaker’s board enhancement for event fudning totalling 21536 has been approved clxxxii. Point of inquiry jason, the total amount plus enhancements is 164704? yes ok clxxxiii. We are in line for a motion clxxxiv. Altshuler: Move to approve DSB’s FY 19-20 base budget plus enhancements for the total of 164704 clxxxv. Roll call vote on the motion was entered into clxxxvi. Ney: The motion was approved clxxxvii. Ney: we will go on to SOAC clxxxviii. Ney: Is there any discussion? clxxxix. Altshuler: Inquiry.. stipend increase is 3365? Jason gave a thumbs up cxc. Altshuler: Mr. President I move to approve SOAC’s enhancement request for Stipend INcreases for 3365 cxci. An objection was made to Acclamation vote, Roll call vote was then entered into. cxcii. The roll call vote was approved and the motion was approved cxciii. Informational inquiry to jason, the base budget plus 231587? yes ok cxciv. Altshuler: Move to approve SOAC’s FY-19-20 Base budget plus enhancements totaling 231587 cxcv. A roll call vote was entered into cxcvi. SOAC’s FY19-20 base budget plus enhancements was approved cxcvii. Ney: Good job, that concludes night one hearing 2 of the budget hearings. We now will go into the CU Independent and their qanda IX. Old Business X. New Business A. Question-and-answer on proposal from CU Independent i. Lucy: I mentioned this in public open hearing, I was editor in chief for CUI last semester, and before that I served in editor roles on staff, I remain connected for securing our financial stability and writing, that’s why we are here today. I understand and thank council for hearing us. It’s been kind of last minute, 11th hour request. I appreciate you guys considering us. A little CU Independent, some of you already know. We are a student run news site we publish basically every day in the academic year. We are written by undergrad and grad students, we serve CU-BOulder and the greater community. We do technically sit in CMCI right now, but I’m not even a journalism major, the previous editor before me was not a journalism major. We are for every student that wants communication, writing experience, and getting resume lines to apply for internships and jobs. I don’t want to take more time, so please ask me more questions about how we operate. ii. Allen: I was wondering what your financial constraints are right now, and why it’s so necessary to get the money now iii. Haggard: This is a good time to get background. Last spring CMCI expressed to us they wanted eventually to have us more invovled with them. But they expressed late last spring they said what if we make a CUI related club, not club sorry, class for the editors, and we said you don’t ask us about this, we haven’t even considred this, part of the thing about CUI is we are intentionally not a class, that’s the nice thing about us. So that sparked a discussion last semester, fall 2018, we had multiple taskforce meetings with CMCI administration. A couple faculty and our advisor were there. We thought we were going in to potentially negotiate a more beneficial relationship that was mutual for us. I want it to be noted we don’t necessarily want to dissaosciate from them or campus, but we didn’t feel like we were being heard, or being asked what we wanted. It was frustrating because a lot of claims and suggestions were thrown out to make us more efficient and to work more with less, and I think everyone on campus feels financially squished and CMCI is as well. I think the reason we had those taskforce meetings was that they were trying to understand hey were paying tens of thousands of dollars what do we get out of it. I can get into that, but basically we were frustrated they wanted to consider changin us without considering what we htought we need. I expected us to talk in january an february, and we have heard official radio silence. Nothing has moved forward. At this point we assume we are funded for FY19-20, but that’s an assumption we don’t want to make. CMCI has never provided a budget to us specifically, so we have been working on partial information on certain accounts, one of them is percentage of interests to the CU Foundation dedicated to us, but others are controlled by CMCI, and others are renewed erratically. We have been doing fantastic work in the last 5 to 10 years, and our brand has existed for a decade. Especially the last 5, we have won awards every year, you can see in our coverage, I think we do great quality for a student publication. We were also on Colorado Matters for our work on Title IX at CU. We are making progress and we’re growing, and we want to go places we’re not sure CMCI wants to or knows how to support us. That’s why we feel we need to do this now. If something were to change it would change, and the ambiguity of CMCI is concerning to us, we don’t want to be told in April you aren’t funded in the fall, or your advisor is cut, we work on shoestrings financially, to do 25 hours of work a week, I was paid 325$ for the whole semester, and it’s working for nothing. I was lucky I could do that for myself, but this is where newsroom inequity starts. They’ve been inequitably strucutred for decades because those that are structurally disadvantage cant do this kind of internships. We don’t want to be part of that system. Also we do really good work and we’d like to do even better work iv. Allen: I agree, I liked your articles last year. My followup question is, do you have a clear vision for what you want the CU Independent be, and what would Student Fee money change it? v. Haggard: In many ways we wouldn’t change at all. We wouldn’t cover CUSG more or less favorably for example, but we would be able to, does everyone have this budget sheet? yeah, ok. You can see people are basically working for nothing and we would be able to potentially pay photographers and writers for assignemnt. We have issues with deadlines, school priorities come first. If we can pay a writer, they will justify it because its their job, they will do the essay later and the story now. We would be able to have tighter deadlines. So we would be able to do stuff like the Title IX package? We only do that kind of thing one time a semester, and we could do so much more like that 3-4 times a semester. That’s the only huge thing we are asking for, we want staff payment. WE don’t need a whole lot else to function. Our space may be different in the future. I know there may be things moving out of the armory, but that’s not what we are concerned about right now, and we just, it would help us to do more of what we are already doing and do it better vi. Allen: I’m sure you know KVCU works with both us and CMCI, is that what you envison? vii. Haggard: Something like that is something that would be fantastic. We don’t want interference with Radio1190, but I think something like that would be fantastic, because I know people do benefit from our coverage. Arguably that we covered the issues with administration -- we didn’t cover it favorably or unfavorably -- put you in a better bargaining position viii. Robinson: I’m confused, CMCI is not funding you anymore, not enough? Can you explain that a little more? ix. Lucy: In this task force nothing was decided. Claims were thrown out that our 19 staff of editors hsould be cut down to 8. Something was said about our advisor being cut. It was more for discussion from CMCI, and we felt like we were just listening to them talk. Right now we will rpobably have the same funding that we will have next year, but the fact they wanted to cut things, or that they’re not sure CUI is our priority, or one of them. I don’t want to wade into the weeds of CMCI, we don’t want to disassociate from them, in an ideal world we would be like the radio station, but I think we’d like to do our thing without feeling squished. We do benefit them, but I think they have qualms about certain aspects on how we work that aren’t specifically benefitign cmci even though they benefit boulder as a whole x. Robinson: I know there’s freedom of speech, and I was reading through your CUI proposed budget, how is this going to work, if you become under student fees you would have to follow the constitution, oversight from leg, you said that leg council nobody would like do this with your articles or that with your articles, Joint boards how they work, there is a second opinoion on that, but if a future leg council decided that wasn’t appropriate at cu, but here it says the editor in chief could stop that, I’m trying to figure out how this work and you have freedom and have autonomy, but if you are under the constitution… xi. Lucy: CUI actually has attempted to have get funding before, previously, parts of CUSG have asked for prior review of articles, and that’s when we walked away. We would have an MOU with the Joint board to only mediate financial concerns and not on editorial content. The reason we are doing this now is because CUSG understands the importance of editorial independence, and I think we could draw up the agreement. We have the NPR, the corporation for public broadcastin, bbc, it does work xii. Robinson: we wouldn’t have oversight over ediitorial things, but also financial things, but we see UMC tomorrow, if the UMC were to approve, they don’t want roofs on the ceilings, and we said that’s not the best interest of the students, I feel like it would be the same for the pieces you publish, just how we work with joint boards. It’s not liek I don’t agree, but I want to make sure this is properly made, the leg council you are speaking to now is not a future council. Different sessions have different voices, we want to make sure we are secure in all that. xiii. Lucy: I think that’s a valid concern. I think we could draw up a strict enough MOU and structure the Joint board to be infavor of CUI members instead of CUSG members, the joint board will not interfere with our editorial content if we structure it right, and unaninimity would be needed even among staff to stop that. I think we can put up enough safeguards, but there’s enough things we can do to ensure editorial independence while financially using fees well xiv. Gazarik: When you mentioned CMCI funding, there was a grant that is given to you no matter what because of the donor’s wishes, will you continue to get that xv. Lucy: We think so? It’s like 2500 a year, it’s not much, and we think so because it’s earmarked specifically for us, not for CMCI to disburse to us, so yes, I believe so, xvi. Gazarik: Is that in the budget? xvii. Lucy: It’s not logged, we don’t really understand where it comes from, and again I’m 95% sure, but this is partially CMCI never giving us clarity on the matter. We asked for it on the taskforce last semester and they didn’t vie it to us xviii. Byarm: Katie: what has administration been saying, is this a problem? Is it a convo? xix. Gray: If you look in slack, I sent an official response from Dean Bergen, I will pass that along, so what, if you pull it up, in 2008 CUI as an organization made a statement they wanted to withdarw from campus, this agreement was noted, and sort of cited that continual withdrawal was supported by CMCI. I don’t think that opinion of 2008 is entirely fair to CUI. I have a meeting with Dean Bergen next week on a one on one basis next week. I have nothing else oht xx. Reagan: I applaud all the awards you guys received in the past years, Just to illustrate everything you provide. Thank you, it’s important to see you guys continue on boulder campus. I also have some similar concerns that Robinson put forth, in addition to joint boards, they jointly report to the tri-executives, you would have to take that into consideration. Also, cost center directors when they are hired, they are jointly hired between the tri-executives. So that is something we need to look into for this proposal. I have some ideas about we could possibly move forward, but I’m going to hold off for more discussion xxi. Carter: So in terms of your budget, I know you said that this, you guys don’t get paid nearly as much as the rest of the PAC-12 journalists, does your budget mirror any of theirs, where did you get the numbers in some of this budget, did you just think them up? xxii. Lucy: We don’t have specific numbers for PAC-12 institutions, for away football games, we interact with other student groups there, the daily bruin we sent some reporters there a few weeks ago, they have 100s of people on their staff and they get paid. What we have here, it’s not even minimum wage, we did the math for that and that would be 80k. In an ideal world I’d love to do that, but I get it’s not realistice to ask off the bat. The numbers we have right now is what we think woudl be enough of an incentive to help epople that might need part-time jobs to mitigate the financial burden of potentially working with us, and it would just tell us to improve that content to become a higher priority xxiii. Carter: So it’s safe to assume that this budget is oen of the lowest ones in the pac-12 xxiv. Lucy: So if you look at the Collegian, they pay their writers and staffers pretty decently. Obviously it’s not a full year salary, they still put out a print newspaper as well too. They have a bunch of, they sit under this whole news thing where they have this tv station and the news station, and the lifestyle magazine. I want us to go there. I want us to sit under a larger board with radio1190 maybe, or maybe buffsportslive wants to expand. In the longterm I want us to get there, we need to start here xxv. Allen: So I think most of the council would agree we support your mission and we want to see you grow, the issue for most of council is the timeline, for getting this done. IN the next two weeks, this budget package has to be approved by the regents. To throw in a cost center with a decent sized line item might throw a wrench in. I also don’t think it’s the only way to get funding for you. There are options you can come to us for where we can provide the cash for you. Finance board has several accounts where the wording is arbitrary and I think that might be viable for us. We might be able to do this in an efficient way that makes sense, if we can start conversations now for the longer term, we can have a solid plan to implement you as a CUSG. Is that something you would be willing to consider xxvi. Lucy: We are open to any options, what I have proposed is our first plan best case scenario, what you said is definitely an option, it’s not ideal to us because we would like to kind of head off a potential cut from our side should CMCI choose to. We don’t want to be left in the lurch without funding to run our website. To print our newsmagazine. If it’s the number it concerns you, as far as we know our pro staff advisor will be funded for FY19-20, and I would say would be easy to eliminate would cut his budget. Considering the numbers tonight, we would be half a percent of what the rec center gets. xxvii. Allen: I get why that’s scary. That’s why I lean to take more time, we can invovle CMCI in this, they could provide this funding or that funding and there could be some synergistic effects that could help your grow even more xxviii. Lucy: And i don’t disagree, I think one of the potential options of taking off the pro-staff salary- their current budget could sustain him. Gil has worked in the industry for decades, he advises in the best way possible, but since we are sure he would be funded one more year, if we take it out right now, CMCI would still be concerned that where they don’t want to pay all of it, we could negotiate a half and half thing like with Jared and radio1190. That would definitely be something that we could work with. Even with this and getting rid of the pro staff, I think we could potentially negotiate them having a potential stake. That being said , I think they’re feeling squeezed, and they don’t see the direct benefit from us even though it’s very clearly there xxix. Allen: Jason you have something xxx. Reagan: So there’s some clarifications that should be made with regard to finance board and future reserve accounts. It’s not totally clear whether or not reserve accounts will be as accessible in the coming months pending CUSG’s budget overhaul, so I would caution keeping that as a safety net a hundred percent, a longerterm strategy would be in order. CUI shoudl be continuously funded on a longterm basis. So xxxi. Lucy: I think that’s part of why we are coming here now, I don’t know the details but I know things are changing. If we set up a Joint board and get temprorary funds, maybe extremely difficult. I think that concenrs us as well because it’s one more wrench in the equation xxxii. Reagan: My understanding of yalls number one option, that you would like for council to pass a measure which would incorporate CUI into the current student fee package, ok , I personally right now and the other tri- execs feel hesitant to do that simply because student fees as a cost are continuously increasing, even if it increases by a bit, it’s still impactful long term. What may be in order is a resolution, well in part, a referendu mitem, that would provide a new student fee, so the students themselves could decide whether or not they would be provided to student fees. And so for me and for council can get input I would like a resolution of support for you all and support for you and CMCI as that exists now (cross-talk) xxxiii. We will have student fee board, not finance board, that will have control over those reserve accounts, but passing a referendum item with a resolution of xxxiv. Megen: Two things to throw out, first off some years ago the regents implemented a fee lock and we have to keep under that fee lock for the past three years, this year governor polis asked all institutions come in at 0 percent tuition and fees. the way our package structures, our fees are only part locked, and fee advisory board did agree to increase the mental health fee and RTD fee, I do not have any kind of numbers on how much those increases adde,d our initial fee package we put to gether was a net decrease, but I don’t know how much more those other fees added, and I don’t know where we are on the balance sheet. It would be important to find out before we add anything more and the second thing I would say, for htose of you that don’t know me in a sense. I was newspaper copy editor for 23 years, I strongly support the work you all do. I also know that CUSG has a rollercoaster relationship with all forms of media. I have been here at times when tri execs said don’t say anything to the media. Even open records. I would like to think that would not happen again, but that’s far too rosy. So I think it is of incredible importance that the relationship that any is created between CUSG and CUI be crystal clear, and very carefully spelled out about editorial independence, financial decisions, what kind of oversight Leg Council or Funding bodies might have. I noticed on your budget that one of your items is for CORA requests, some of the mmight come to us. I have seen executives in the past who would have said they’re filing a cora request? We could take their money. I would like to make that as difficult as possible, and doing that would take some time. xxxv. Robinson: I’m asking you, you are saying 25 hours of work they have to do, or is it stuff plus going above and beyond? xxxvi. Lucy: Do you have access to the payroll tab xxxvii. that’s kind of the breakdown of the calculation of that, they are considered stipends because they don’t get close to the hourly pay, if you did calculate hourly pay, it’s far below the actual hours of anything anyone would be doing. I think, does that answer it? xxxviii. Robinson: I do kind of agree with the conversation of what was going on, just reading over the executive report, it doesn’t feel like a proposal, but it feels like al ist of demands. 121k is a lot of money to ask for akind of a umor I hate to say that. What’s believed is what written, there’s not official documents saying their cutting you off xxxix. Robinson: You also said that you only get half a percent, but what we fund you we might have to take away from someone else, we can’t just pull 121k. I think there’s better short term solutions, this goes way further, you want to become a joint board and a cost center, there’s rules that go all the way to the constitution. That’s what I meant by I don’t see how it could work, I just think the timing. xl. Lucy: I understand the apprehension there. Part of what we put forth is kind of like our vision. Ideally we would do what we need to do so we become editorially independent. There wouldn’t be much else. Regardless of what happens here, we would like to talk about get a joint board referendum on the ballot for this spring, even if we don’t have a budget, in the fall assuming cmci gives us the funding, through next year, one of the potential options throughg next year intensively work with leg council and execs to write strict MOUs and clarify there will be no interference and then we will get on the budget for 2020-2021 xli. Robinson: warning, if any money is allocated, we do have oversight over it, I wish we could hand out money to people, but legislative now or later on, with your proposals, there may be, well there’s no realistic way to hand out 100k and not control student fee money. There’s just no way to not give some oversight or have a say in it xlii. Lucy: I agree, and were this to happen this year, and we only use 2k for travel and go to 3 conferences, I think there can be oversight with editorial interference, I would challenge anyone on this body to trust that even if we may cover you in a way that you don’t like. You are all part of cost centers. I think to do something like this, you are not going to see the benefit as for a differetn cost center, you will know that the school is better informed, information and knowledge about good and bad things are getting out there more. It’s almost a commitment of the commons to a public good. I think that’s true. xliii. Schreier: I think I want sarah to speak first xliv. Altshuler: So just to be clear, I’ve been trying to do a lot of digging in as many places I can, not everything I know is accurate, and I’m only speaking for myself and not for ASSG. I talked to katie about the email we saw. So starting with the email, the impression I got from that was clearly ten years ago you guys said you were going to leave, when will that happen. Of course Katie will meet with the dean. Definitely CMCI is looking to move away from the CU Independent. It is like a rumor, but from what I’ve gathered seems like a tangible thing. I don’t think however it’s not so much an emergency it can’t be done. I talked to Megen about the fee package and media independence, and as far as I can come up with I have come up with four routes we can take. Not to sayy the are the only ones, please share. I’ll run through what I’ve thought up. SO one, is that we have the opportunity to add funds as far as the student fee package is allotted to increase. We are looking over everything, this would be iwthin the cusg budget technically. we could technically have the ability to do it. Since they’re not officially associated and their enhancement is outside of what we are seeing in the fee package, it woudl be dependent on the provost’s approval. It’s not something we can decide so much as recommend in a more complicated manner. I want to explain that better. If we did create the cost cenyter we would be very rushed, we also would be funding something we don’t know how it will work. That makes me nervous in a lot of ways. That’s something to consider. 2 we could add the program to another cost center, this is something I could see working out in the senes it would be an informal thing, we could 1 look at KVCU and CSI or whoever and say hey will you take them as an informal part of your unit, do a SOR request, and then formalize the later on, that’s a little more compliicated, that would allow us to do a SOR Request one time this year and then incorporate. But then again, that could get alittle sticky. I don’t know if the SOR request would take alone the VC, but it would be a very weird loophole, and it would lack strong legislative structure. My favorite solution out of the ones I’ve come up with is that we deny funding this years, continue conversations with the CMCI school, I don’t think they will completely snap you off, if we provide them with hey yess we could take them on, we could make sure it happens in a gradual way. Again, we could take a current cost center that exists, put it in the constitutional amendment. We could make KVCU just the information center, and then shuffle it so that within the center there are branches, but each branch has an executive or pro staffer who is responsible for financial cooperation and they operate as a cost center, and everything they do would be streamline. As you saw we did budget pool adjustments. But after that we would need to approve it all again for those internal adjustments. By creating a cost center reorganization system, that would allow us to incorporate them, make sure the bylaws structure is really string so I like that second degree os separation, and again it would be streamlined so that would allow for a way to incroporate their budget and it wouldn’t require the approval of the provost and maybe some cost centers would need to be a -1 or at a 0. We would need to talk to KVCU or whoever about. But as far as legislative responsiblity. Most practical option of CUSG involvement in CUI. There’s also the option of not taking it on. What megen said is valid. There’s concerns about interference with student government’s influence in everything like that. I have to yield back to Schriere, but those are the ideas I brainstormed in two days, I think that CUI personally we could take them on if we are careful about it. There might be more, a think Referendum is certainly psosible. xlv. Schreier: So when you say pro staffer you’re referring to gil. Ok. Schreier I think the last two make the most sense. Throw you under KVCU just then, just because there will be drafting issues that will occur, I don’t think I will have time to do it, it needs to be done next. Changing the names is a good idea, that also creates some constitutional issue advantages. xlvi. Under the 1st amendment, because we are a state entity we are included for oversight protections. That’s regulating as a public forum, you won’t get as much scrutiny as in Rosenberger. The only thing we cannot do, if you have to read the article to determine, there are some exceptions, but you couldn’t regulate a sovereign and take an article a way. That would be strict scrutitny. There are areas where you can say some obscenities, true threats, where we could effect editorial regulation. It could be structured in a way to allow them independence. This is done like NPR. For the CUSG Constitution, even if there is a provision that says you cannot have a cost center where they can say whatever they want, because the federal constitution trumps it. That acutla provision of the constitution xlvii. Reagan: I didn’t realize this, I saw our budget proposal, to the rpes that have seen it, there is an opportunity for different structures for how boards functions, we differentiate joint boards that have binding votes, and there are advisory boards. If we were to absorb CUI, having it under an advisory capacity, where we do not have binding votes, that’s contingent on, your advisor they reprt academically or student affairs xlviii. Lucy: Gil is technically supervised by the Journalism Department Chair, he doesn’t interfere in our editorial content, if we did somethign egregious he would say to take it down, but he wouldn’t interfere otherwise. xlix. Reagan: one thing that would allow a certain degree of separation under the new CUSG budget structure, they could be voted on in a way that is less micromanaging that what happens in a Joint board, in our new cost center advisory board structure, that may result hopefully from cusg budget changes, this might fit nicely into that category. That’s currently implemented into wardenburg, where CUSG cannot have micromanaging oversight, we are hadns off in the sense we do not control anything, but we do provide insight l. Sarah: Jake would you see it as incroproated into my model, where they are an advisory board within a joint board? li. Reagan: Currently as it stands in our budget proposal, there is a distinction between joint boards and advisory boards, so it would play as an advisory board. Would it be a new entitty under student fees, it could get its own student fee, if it’s in an advisory role, we don’t have as close oversight, but it may still be able to be voted on by students, but no day to day oversight the joint board would provide. THat’s a possible long term compromise, put it as an advisory board, and then we can discuss who sits on that advisory board. That’s a path that not only ensures longterm sustainaiblity of CUI, but also it’s indepnence of CUSG lii. Sarah: Is an advisory board within a joint board, or only an advisory board liii. Jake: If it would be underneath it, the joint board would still have binding votes, liv. Cross nosie lv. Jake: In that it would be an adivsory board. lvi. Point of order lvii. Michael: This is not relevant lviii. Jake: That’s a viable path that we could explore. lix. Gray: Just looking at this from a macro perspective as the cmci senator as has been mentioned I think not only the speed at which this process is being done I don’t necessarily support, because it’s in my colelge as of right now, something proxy allen said was I agreed with the concept of synergy with youguys and cmci as a college and us in cusg. I would like to be involved in this task force I think I could have helped. As you said there was a lack of communication, I am here to help with that. Moving forward, I am going to be a really great resource helping negotiate this, but I also agree with the majority of other people here. Yeah I yield lx. Lucy:So to go off of that, I do understand and I think part of the reason this is so last minute is we realized budgets are happening now, and so we tried to do i tnow. I wish you had been on it as well. I didn’t think to include you, it didn’t feel like a conversation, it felt like we were being talked to. I think some of what folks have mentioned we have considred and we are open to a lot of options. A greater board with us sitting under that I think that’s an option lxi. I think in the longer term there should be better collaboration with student media outlets on campus, journal 2020 stuff like that, if we can work together for example I’m newsdirector with radio 1190 I’d like to help get that word out. Also to your point but this is a small point potentially being able to moderate what we print. Our ethics policy would be the first section of the bylaws. There are legal limitations of what we can print, I can say a lot but I shouldn’t . We have specific ethics, and we would be clear about that in governing documents. I think the advisory board is a great option. I am encouraged by the option for CUSG to not be able to override our votes. I think there should be general budgetary oversight, I think oh maybe we shouldn’t be sent to this conference, but having to justify our things, or being able to deny our CORA requests, I think we should limit that. I know it is getting late, I think we have brought a lot of options to the table, and that’s really what we want it to do. Some things have to be done in a short time. There may be short term and long term things that may be better than others. Our goal is to ensure our financial security and stability. Dailycamera is at 7 people right now, that’s enough to cover this whole area, and we want to fill in those gaps, in the boulder community, in the longmont community, even in denver. We are open to do this in a secure, stable, very clear way. lxii. Sullivan: I want to preface this by saying I do support CUI, but I want to discuss, I sit on KVCU, they are a small joint baord that doesn’t get enough recognition, and putting you guys underneath them would taint and redirect the attention more to you, and I think that’s in a sense unfair, we talked in the last joint board meeting how most students don’t even know they exist, just to consider that lxiii. Lucy: I mean I am the news director there and it’s been an uphill battle to get our news program to be more prominent. I think if we were to be subset with KVCU, I think there are a lot of better options than that. I think it’s an option. I did bring up to some managers at KVCU because Jared Browsh is also on the task force. He did gameplan with me some long term plans, but I don’t think that’s the right call right now. lxiv. Reagan: I know there are a lot of issues in boulder and on the CU- Boulder campus, those two worlds often collide. I think a stronger roler for CUI would only benefit the students lxv. Ney: It appears we have no more questions. lxvi. Lucy: Thank you so much! I know it’s 11:15, I know you sat through hell, I sat on RHA once. Thank you for your consideration and help. It’s going to be, whatever happens in the next 4 weeks, and also the next year, if we get some or all of our requests, there’s going to be a lot of work and we want to put it in because we know it’s important lxvii. Ney: Thank you for coming in and staying for the entirety of the meeting, thanks for making your case. Thank you, enjoy the rest of your evenings, or mornings whenever it is now. lxviii. XI. Announcements XII. Reagan I promise this is brief. Next wednesday is the keller center event, that’s when we have the colorado state house speaker and armon whoever coming please mark that in your calendars we want as many cusg people there as possible XIII. Byarm: the diversity affair is putting on the women’s day firday XIV. Ney: Brief ones, sorry, some of you are aware that Representative Macintosh ahs resigned officially, so that falls on to the executives who he has given the full authority to appoint to that seat, you ahve 2 weeks to do it or else that power does not fall to your purview. Also tomorrow at 6pm umc 247 my subject line was incorrect in this email so glad you found this room, see you all at 6, please let me know anything comes up. XV. Late Roll Call XVI. Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 23:16

Next Meeting March 7, 2018 – 6 pm UMC 247