May 2, 1984 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10725 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES-Wednesday, Mag 2, 1984 The House met at 3 p.m. Clarke Hillis Moody Stangeland Torres Whittaker Clinger Holt Moore Stark Torricelli Whitten The Chaplain, Rev. James David Coats Hopkins Moorhead Stenholm Towns Williams Ford, D.D., offered the following Coelho Horton Morrison Stokes Traxler Winn prayer: Coleman Howard Morrison Stratton Udall Wirth Coleman Hoyer Mrazek Studds VanderJagt Wise Help us, gracious God, to know Your Collins Hubbard Murtha Stump Vento Wolf blessings in all the occasions of life. Conable Huckaby Myers Sundquist Volkmer Wolpe Conte Hughes Natcher Swift Vucanovich Wortley Encourage us when we know success Conyers Hunter Neal Synar Watkins Wyden and remind us of the need to be grate­ Cooper Hutto Nelson Tallon Weaver Wylie ful, and when we experience disap­ Corcoran Hyde Nichols Tauke Weber Yatron Courter Ireland Nielson Tauzin Weiss Young pointment, support us with Your pres­ Craig Jeffords Nowak Taylor Wheat Young ence and may Your spirit give us Crane, Daniel Jenkins O'Brien Thomas Whitehurst Zschau strength. In all the seasons of life, D'Amours Johnson Oakar Thomas Whitley whether in joy and happiness or at Dannemeyer Jones Obey moments of pain and loss, may we not Darden Jones Olin NAYS-27 Daschle Kaptur Ortiz Chap pie Harkin Roberts feel alone or without recourse, but ac­ Daub Kasich Owens Coughlin Hartnett Roemer knowledging Your love, may we by Davis Kastenmeier Oxley Crane, Philip Hawkins Sabo faith go from day to day with the Dellums Kemp Packard Dickinson Jacobs Schroeder Derrick Kennelly Panetta Durbin Lowry Sikorski awareness that You are always with DeWine Kildee Parris Emerson Miller Solomon us. Amen. Dicks Kleczka Pashayan Evans Mitchell Walker Dingell Kogovsek Patman Frenzel Murphy Yates Dixon Kolter Patterson Gejdenson Penny Young Donnelly Kostmayer Pease THE JOURNAL Dorgan Kramer Pepper ANSWERED "PRESENT"-9 Dowdy LaFalce Perkins The SPEAKER. The Chair has ex­ Downey Lagomarsino Petri Alexander Oberstar Smith amined the Journal of the last day's Dreier Lantos Pickle Daniel Ottinger StGermain proceedings and announces to the Duncan Latta Porter Dymally Schneider Vandergriff House his approval thereof. Dwyer Leach Price Dyson Leath Pursell NOT VOTING-44 Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Early Lehman Quillen Akaka Gibbons Lott Journal stands approved. Eckart Lent Rahall Andrews Goodling Markey Mr. WEBER. Mr. Speaker, pursuant Edgar Levin Rangel Applegate Gramm Paul to clause 1, rule I, I demand a vote on Edwards Levine Ratchford Bonior Hall Pritchard Edwards Levitas Ray Brooks Hance Richardson agreeing to the Speaker's approval of Edwards Lewis Regula Bryant Hansen Schulze the Journal. English Lipinski Reid Clay He!tel Shannon The SPEAKER. The question is on Erdreich Lloyd Ridge Coyne Hiler Smith, Robert Erlenborn Loeffler Rinaldo Crockett Jones Valentil}e the Chair's approval of the Journal. Evans Long Ritter de la Garza Kazen Walgren The question was taken; and the Fazio Long Robinson Fascell Kindness Waxman Speaker announced that the ayes ap­ Feighan Lowery Rodino Florio Lehman Williams peared to have it. Ferraro Lujan Roe Ford Leland Wilson Fiedler Luken Rogers Frost Lewis Wright Mr. WEBER. Mr. Speaker, I object Fields Lundine Rose Garcia Livingston to the vote on the ground that a Fish Lungren Rostenkowski quorum is not present and make the Flippo Mack Roth 0 1510 Foglietta MacKay Roukema point of order that a quorum is not Foley Madigan Rowland Mr. OBERSTAR changed his vote present. Ford Marlenee Roybal from "yea" to "present." The SPEAKER. Evidently a quorum Fowler Marriott Rudd So the Journal was approved. is not present. Frank Martin Russo Franklin Martin Savage The result of the vote was an­ The Sergeant at Arms will notify Fuqua Martin Sawyer nounced as above recorded. absent Members. Gaydos Martinez Schaefer The vote was taken by electronic Gekas Matsui Scheuer Gephardt Mavroules Schumer device, and there were-yeas 353, nays Gilman Mazzoli Seiberling MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE 27, answered "present" 9, not voting Gingrich McCain Sensenbrenner 44, as follows: Glickman McCandless Sharp A message from the Senate by Mr. Gonzalez McCloskey Shaw Hallen, one of its clerks, announced [Roll No. 1251 Gore McCollum Shelby that the Senate had passed without YEAS-353 Gradison McCurdy Shumway amendment a bill and a joint resolu­ Gray McDade Shuster Ackerman Beilenson Boxer Green McEwen Siljander tion of the House of the following Addabbo Bennett Breaux Gregg McGrath Simon titles: Bereuter Britt Albosta Guarini McHugh Sisisky H.R. 2733. An act to extend and improve Anderson Berman Broomfield Gunderson McKernan Skeen Andrews Bethune Brown Hall McKinney Skelton the existing program of research, develop­ Annunzio Bevill Brown Hall, Ralph McNulty Slattery ment, and demonstration in the production Anthony Biaggi Broyhill Hall,Sam Mica Smith and manufacture of guayule rubber, and to Archer BUirakis Burton Hamilton Michel Smith broaden such program to include other criti­ Aspin Bliley Burton Hammerschmidt Mikulski Smith cal agricultural materials; and AuCoin Boehlert Byron Hansen Miller Smith, Denny Boggs Campbell H.J. Res. 478. Joint resolution designating Badham Harrison Mineta Snowe the week of April 29 through May 5, 1984, Barnard Boland Carney Hatcher Minish Snyder Barnes Boner Carper Hayes Moakley Solarz as "National Week of the Ocean." Bartlett Bonker Carr Hefner Molinari Spence The message also announced that Bateman Borski Chandler Hertel Mollohan Spratt Bates Bosco Chappell Hightower Montgomery Staggers the Senate had passed bills and a joint Bedell Boucher Cheney resolution of the following titles, in

0 This symbol represents the time of day during the House proceedings, e.g., 0 1407 is 2:07 p.m. e This "bullet" symbol identifies statements or insertions which are not spoken by the Member on the floor. 10726 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE May 2, 1984 which the concurrence of the House is American people, to welcome the compensation; Phil Caldwell, $7.3 mil­ requested: summer games to our country. lion; Dave Tendler, almost $7 million; S. 1135. An act to consent to the Goose The resolution before us permits the Tom Murphy, over $6 million; Dan Lake Basin Compact between the States of Speaker of the House and the Presi­ Burke, Bill Cook, and Ed Telling over California and Oregon; dent of the Senate to permit the torch $4 million each. S. 1196. An act to confer jurisdiction on relay to cross the Capitol Grounds. The names of these seven corporate the U.S. Claims Court with respect to cer­ Section 193 of the tain claims of the Navajo Indian Tribe; executives are not exactly household S. 2184. An act to amend the Native Amer­ Code title 40, prohibits the transporta­ words, yet the $46 million in compen­ ican Programs Act of 1974 to impose certain tion of firearms, dangerous weapons, sation these seven men received last limitations with respect to the administra­ explosives, and incendiary devices year is more than the total combined tion of such act and to authorize appropria­ through the Capitol Grounds. salaries of our President, Vice Presi­ tions under such act for fiscal years 1985, Clearly the Olympic torch is not the dent, the 13 members of the Presi­ 1986, and 1987, and for other purposes; and kind of incendiary device that Con­ dent's Cabinet, the nine Justices of S.J. Res. 261. Joint resolution to provide gress meant to prohibit. The law does the Supreme Court, all 100 Members for the designation of the last week in June allow this provision to be suspended of the U.S. Senate, and all 435 mem­ 1984 as "Helen Keller Deaf-Blind Awareness for appropriate occasions by the Week." bers of the House of Representatives. Speaker of the House and the Presi­ It is also more than the combined sala­ The message also announced that dent of the Senate, and I hope it is the the Vice President, pursuant to the ries of over 3,000 average Americans. desire of the House to suspend the Mr. Speaker, if top corporate execu­ provisions of sections 276h-276k, as provision in this case. tives cannot control their greed, how amended, appoints Mrs. HAWKINS as a The SPEAKER pro tempore. The dare they expect the average Ameri­ member of the Senate delegation to question is on the concurrent resolu­ can to heed their hypocritical calls for the Mexico-United States Interparlia­ tion. self-restraint and moderation? mentary Group during the 2d session The concurrent resolution was of the 98th Congress, to be held in agreed to. Washington, D.C., on May 17-20, 1984. A motion to reconsider was laid on INTEREST RATES BEGINNING the table. TO CLIMB AGAIN Sawyer have something in your pocket that page to the Senate and they will send Gekas Martin Schaefer takes care what needs to be so that us back a telephone book. They have Gilman Martin Schneider you can fall back on it if you have to. done it time and time again. And what Gingrich McCain Schulze Goodling McCandless Sensenbrenner And I think when we go to confer­ we ought to do is what my friend from Gradison McCollum Shaw ence, the best thing will be to have a Massachusetts has suggested repeated­ Green McDade Shumway bill that takes care of what has to be ly, we should have gone, and you are Gregg McEwen Shuster done, and as long as we have that, we Gunderson McGrath Siljander the chairman, Mr. Chairman, you are Hammerschmidt McKernan Skeen have a much better bargaining posi­ the chairman of the committee, you Hansen tion. It has worked many, many times. should have called the conference Hartnett Michel Smith So I hope the gentleman will not before the recess, you should have Hillis Miller tious, and one who is regarded highly Kindness Pashayan Vander Jagt ence before today. on both sides of the aisle. Kramer Petri Vucanovich Mr. CONTE. Oh, wait a minute. Mr. WHITTEN. May I say the gen­ Lagomarsino Porter Walker Wait a minute. Let us read my letter Latta Pritchard Weber tleman from Pennsylvania is one of a Leach Pursell Whitehurst here that I wrote to the gentleman on similar kind. I have the highest regard Lent Quillen Whittaker April 11. I will ask the gentleman to for both of you. But may I say I have Lewis look in his records. I say: "I don't be­ been in communication with the Loeffler Ridge Winn lieve we can simply leave for the recess Lott Rinaldo Wolf Senate, the chairman of the Appro­ Lowery ments and disagreements to the House Mack Rogers Young anything. We have been waiting for us Madigan Roth for a vote." all to be back. Zschau Mr. WHITTEN. What day did you Mr. McDADE. We could have gone NAYS-245 leave? before. Ackerman Dixon Jacobs Mr. CONTE. I do not know what day Mr. CONTE. Mr. Speaker, I have no Addabbo Donnelly Jenkins we left. Akaka Dorgan Jones further requests for time, and I yield Albosta Dowdy Jones Mr. WHITTEN. I believe the recess back the balance of my time. Alexander Downey Kaptur began on the 12th. So if we had gone Mr. WHITTEN. Mr. Speaker, I yield Anderson Durbin Kastenmeier to conference, I would have been by back the balance of my time. Andrews Dwyer Kennelly myself. Annunzio Dymally Kildee The SPEAKER pro tempore. With­ Anthony Dyson Kleczka Mr. CONTE. I would stick with you, out objection, the previous question is Applegate Early Kogovsek Mr. Chairman. Do not worry about ordered on the preferential motion. Asp in Eckart Kolter that. There was no objection. AuCoin Edgar Kostmayer Mr. WHITTEN. Now, I stayed here Barnard Edwards Lehman gress was in recess. This time during Beilenson Fascell Lehman not have taken 2 days. It was hand de­ object to the vote on the ground that Boner Foley Long livered to the gentleman on the 11th, a quorum is not present and make the Bonior Ford Lowry when we were here. But that is nei­ Bonker Fowler Luken point of order that a quorum is not Borski Frank Lundine ther here nor there. And I have seen present. Bosco Fuqua MacKay the gentleman. The gentleman is a The SPEAKER pro tempore. Evi­ Boucher Gaydos Martinez master. When the gentleman says dently a quorum is not present. Boxer Gejdenson Matsui something about being unwise, I would Breaux Gephardt Mavroules The Sergeant at Arms will notify Britt Gibbons Mazzoli be the last guy in the world to say absent Members. Brown Gonzalez McCurdy owls in this House. Byron Gore McHugh device, and there were-yeas 159, nays Carper Gray McNulty Mr. McDADE. Mr. Speaker, if the 245, not voting 29, as follows: Carr Guarini Mica gentleman will yield, I want to say Chappell Hall Mikulski that I have been privileged to serve [Roll No. 1261 Clarke Hall, Ralph Miller Daschle Hoyer Brown Coughlin Murtha was true when we should have gone to Emerson Dell urns Hubbard Broyhill Natcher conference before the recess occurred. Courter Erlenborn Derrick Huckaby Neal You know it and everybody in this Burton Craig Evans National Forest, Mo. from Ohio for working on these ef­ Obey Sabo Torres The Clerk read the title of the forts, and I also would like to com­ Olin Savage Torricelli Senate bill. mend my colleague on the other side Ortiz Scheuer Towns The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu­ Ottinger Schroeder Traxler of the aisle, the gentleman from Mis­ Owens Schumer Udall ant to the rule, the conference report souri. I know he was somewhat disap­ Panetta Seiberling Vandergriff is considered as having been read. pointed with the final outcome, but Patman Sharp Vento Wheat will be recognized for minutes and Certainly this is what was very impor­ Rahall Smith ( !A) Whitley the gentleman from Alaska the gentleman from Arizona Hall Livingston Bliley Hance Markey Mr. UDALL. I thank the gentleman from Louisiana for his contribution in Brooks Hansen Paul for yielding to me. working out this bill, and we certainly Bryant Hayes Shannon Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to do appreciate the support that he has D 'Amours Heftel Smit h , Robert approve this afternoon this sound and generated for it. de Ia Garza Hiler Stark Ford Valentine solid bill which is a product of a bipar­ Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he Frost Kazen Williams tisan effort over the last several years. may consume to the gentleman from Garcia Leland Wilson This is a small wilderness area as wil­ New York (Mr. BIAGGI). Gramm Lewis derness areas go, but we compromised Mr. BIAGGI. I thank the gentleman 0 1650 with the Senate and split the differ­ for yielding to me. ence so that we end up with something The Clerk announced the following Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this like 16,500 acres. legislation. I commend the gentleman pairs: This bill was approved by a substan­ On this vote: from Ohio for his leadership, and also tial margin in the House committee. It the ranking member on the minority Mr. Robert F. Smith for, with Mr. Ford of passed the House earlier with over­ Michigan against. side. Mr. Lewis of Florida for, with Mr. Leland whelming support. The House actually Mr. SEIBERLING. Mr. Speaker, I against. gained a little bit more, I think, from yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Mr. Gramm for, with Mr. Hayes against. the viewpoint of the opponents of the Arizona (Mr. McNULTY). Mr. Bliley for, with Mr. D 'Amours against. bill in the conference. The Senate bill • Mr. McNULTY. Mr. Speaker, as a Mr. Paul for, with Mr. Garcia against. included 17,562 acres; the House bill member of the Committee on Interior Messrs. STRATTON, ERDREICH, 15,500 acres, and the conference and Insular Affairs and a sponsor of and MARTINEZ changed their votes agreed on 16,500 acres. We made a few the Arizona Wilderness bill, I am from "yea" to "nay." compromises, but this is a good, sound pleased to note that this measure, the So the motion to instruct was reject­ bill and it ought to be approved. I urge Irish Wilderness Act, was passed by ed. my colleagues to support the confer­ this body, and passed by a substantial The result of the vote was an­ ence report and support the commit­ majority. I know the difficulties and nounced as above recorded. tee. the deliberations that are involved in A motion to reconsider was laid on Mr. SEIBERLING, I thank the gen­ developing a wilderness bill. the table. tleman. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the 0 1700 gentleman from Louisiana to establish the sonable balance." of interests I do with respect to miner- May 2, 1984 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10737 als, and had I had my way, I would ported it because it contained at least Mr. EMERSON. Well, it gives up a have preferred the House version. two-seventeenths of what I was trying thousand more acres than what we Let me repeat my last two sentences, to get for my constituency. I had come had agreed on in the House here by a Mr. Speaker. Yes, I would have pre­ at that point fifteen-seventeenths of vote of 406 to 18, and the House posi­ ferred the House version to come back the way. I voted for it, together with tion in the conference was not spoken here. I have a lot of the same interests the chairman of the subcommittee, for save by me as the Member who my good friend, the gentleman from the gentleman from Ohio Packard Roche support this legislation and The Sergeant at Arms will notify Archer Hartnett Parris Badham Hatcher Pashayan have called for our approval of it. I absent Members. Bartlett Hillis Patman want to convey this message to my col­ The vote was taken by electronic Bateman Holt Pickle leagues in the House at this time. device, and there were-yeas 254, nays Bennett Hopkins Quillen 142, not voting 37, as follows: Bilirakis Horton Ridge The 17,500 acres to be called the Broomfield Hubbard Ritter "Irish Wilderness" will be both mag­ [Roll No. 1271 Brown Hunter Roberts nificent and beautiful. It will be a YEAS-254 Burton Hyde Robinson Byron Ireland Fuqua Roemer place of great honor for the Irish Ackerman Olin Campbell Jacobs Addabbo Gaydos Ortiz Rogers American community and I hope we Carney Jenkins Roth Akaka Gejdenson Ottinger Chappell Johnson will take the step today to make it a Albosta Gephardt Owens Roukema reality.e Chapple Jones Rudd Alexander Gibbons Panetta Cheney Kasich Anderson Gilman Patterson Schaefer Mr. SEIBERLING. Mr. Speaker, I Coats Kemp Schulze yield myself 30 seconds and say unlike Andrews Glickman Pease Annunzio Gonzalez Penny Coleman Kindness Shumway the gentleman from Alaska I happen Applegate Gore Pepper Corcoran Kramer Shuster to have been down there a year ago Asp in Gradison Perkins Craig Lagomarsino Siljander Gray Petri Crane. Daniel Latta Skeen and visited this area, walked around it. AuCoin Crane, Philip Leath Barnes Guarini Porter Smith Daniel Lent It is not true that there are mines in Bates Hall Price Smith, Denny it. There are no mines. There are no Bedell Hall, Sam Pritchard Dannemeyer Lewis Snowe Daub Loeffler Snyder farms. There are no roads. It is entire­ Beilenson Hamilton Pursell Bereuter Harrison Rahall Davis Lott Solomon ly a natural area. Berman Hawkins Rangel DeWine Lowery Spence Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. Mr. Speaker, Bethune Hefner Ratchford Dickinson Lujan Stangeland will the gentleman yield? Bevill Hertel Ray Dreier Lungren Stenholm Boehlert Hightower Regula Duncan Mack Stump Mr. SEIBERLING. I yield to the Boggs Howard Reid Dyson Madigan Sundquist gentleman from Alaska. Boland Hoyer Richardson Edwards Marlenee Tauke Boner Huckaby Rinaldo Edwards Marriott Taylor Mr. YOUNG of Alaska. I thank the Emerson Martin gentleman for yielding. Bonior Hughes Rodino Thomas Bonker Hutto Rose Erlenborn Martin Vander Jagt We know. We had the information. Borski Jones Rostenkowski Evans McCain Vucanovich There are roads, there have been Bosco Kaptur Rowland Fiedler McCandless Walker mines, there have been farms, there Boucher Kastenmeier Roybal Fields McCollum Weber Boxer Kennelly Sabo Fowler McEwen Whitehurst have been trees cut. So do not tell us Breaux Kildee Savage Franklin Michel Whittaker that that has not happened. I may not Britt Kleczka Sawyer Gekas Miller Winn have been there, but this gentleman Brown Kogovsek Scheuer Gingrich Molinari Wolf Broyhill Kolter Schroeder Goodling Montgomery Wortley represents that district. I have seen Burton Kostmayer Schumer Green Moorhead Wylie the films. Do not tell us that is not Carper LaFalce Seiberling Gregg Myers Young Gunderson Nielson Young there. Carr Lantos Sensen brenner Hall, Ralph O'Brien Chandler Leach Sharp Mr. EMERSON. Mr. Speaker, will Hammerschmidt Oxley the gentleman yield? Clarke Lehman Shaw Clay Lehman Shelby NOT VOTING-37 Mr. SEIBERLING. I yield to the Clinger Levin Sikorski gentleman from Missouri. Coelho Levine Simon Andrews Hansen Paul Coleman Levitas Sisisky Barnard Harkin Roe Mr. EMERSON. I thank the gentle­ Collins Lipinski Skelton Biaggi Hayes Russo man for yielding. Conable Lloyd Slattery Bliley Heftel Schneider The records of the Geological Conte Long Smith Brooks Hiler Shannon Survey indicate that there was an iron Conyers Long Smith Bryant Jeffords Smith, Robert Cooper Lowry Smith de la Garza Jones Stark mine in the midst of the Irish-- Coughlin Luken Solarz Edgar Kazen Valentine Mr. SEIBERLING. Once upnl! a Courter Lundine Spratt Frost Leland Walgren time. Coyne MacKay StGermain Garcia Lewis Williams Crockett Martin Staggers Gramm Livingston Wilson Mr. EMERSON. That there are D'Amours Martinez Stokes Hall Markey roadbeds, there are railroad beds. Darden Matsui Stratton Hance Mitchell There are nine manmade ponds. This Daschle Mavroules Studds Dellurns Mazzoli Swift 0 1800 is my point about saying by no stand­ Derrick McCloskey Synar ard of definition does this area meet Dicks McCurdy Tallon The Clerk announced the following the wilderness criteria of the 1964 act. Dingell McDade Tauzin pairs: Mr. SEIBERLING. Once upon a Dixon McGrath Thomas On this vote: Donnelly McHugh Torres time there were mines, once upon a Dorgan McKernan Torricelli Mr. Mitchell for, with Mr. Bliley against. time there were roads, once upon a Dowdy McKinney Towns Mr. Hayes for, with Mr. Paul against. time there were farms, but nature has Downey McNulty Traxler Mr. RIDGE changed his vote from Durbin Mica Udall a way of taking care of those things. I Dwyer Mikulski Vandergriff "yea" to "nay." would only say to the gentleman from Dymally Miller Vento Mr. SLATTERY changed his vote Alaska, "Vas you der, Charlie?" Early Mineta Volkmer from "nay" to "yea." Eckart Minish Watkins Mr. Speaker, I move the previous Edwards Moakley Waxman So the conference report was agreed question on the conference report. English Mollohan Weaver to. The previous question was ordered. Erdreich Moody Weiss The result of the vote was an­ The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Evans Moore Wheat nounced as above recorded. Fascell Morrison Whitley question is on the conference report. Fazio Morrison Whitten A motion to reconsider was laid on The question was taken; and the Feighan Mrazek Williams the table. Speaker pro tempore announced that Ferraro Murphy Wirth the noes appeared to have it. Fish Murtha Wise Flippo Natcher Wolpe GENERAL LEAVE Mr. SEIBERLING. Mr. Speaker, I Florio Neal Wright object to the vote on the ground that Foglietta Nelson Wyden Mr. SEIBERLING. Mr. Speaker, I a quorum is not present and make the Foley Nichols Yates ask unanimous consent that all Mem­ Ford Oakar Young bers may have 5 legislative days in present. Frank Oberstar Zschau which to revise and extend their re- Frenzel Obey

31-0!'i9 O-R7 -2!'! rPt. Rl 10744 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE May 2, 1984 marks on the conference report just convey a small 52-acre park site to the The Clerk read the title of the bill. agreed to. city of Show Low, AZ. The bill is total­ The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is ly noncontroversial. 0 1810 there objection to the request of the Originally, the bill provided for a no­ The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. gentleman from Ohio? cost transfer of two parcels of land, an When the Committee of the Whole There was no objection. airport and park site. But as a result rose on Thursday, April 26, 1984, title of negotiations between the city and II was open for amendment at any CONVEYING CERTAIN LANDS TO the Forest Service, recommended by point. SHOW LOW, AZ our committee the city agreed to ex­ Are there any further amendments change a parcel of land and pay ap­ to title II? Mr. SEIBERLING. Mr. Speaker, I proximately $80,000 in cash for the ask unanimous consent to take from airport property. Therefore, only the AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. GREGG the Speaker's table the Senate bill in the chair. of this section, and any funds recovered May 2, 1984 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10745 in excess of these requirements" shall be re­ only nominal cost in performing it. Costs COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS turned to the Treasury of the United States. shall be determined in accordance with sec­ The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. The SALARY ADJUSTMENTS tion 12(e) of the Act of March 3, 1901, as Clerk will report the committee amended (15 U.S.C. 278b(e)). SEc. 302. In addition to the sums other­ amendments. wise authorized to be appropriated by this DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU The Clerk read as follows: Act, such additional sums as may be neces­ SEc. 306. Section 5 of the Act of March 3, Committee amendments: Page 11, line 17: sary to make any adjustment in salary, pay, 1901, as amended <15 U.S.C 274), is amended strike ", or" and insert a period; and page retirement, and other employee benefits by deleting the period at the end of the first 11, lines 18 through 23: delete subsection which may be provided for by law are au­ sentence and by inserting the following, ", 304(2). thorized to be appropriated for fiscal years and shall serve at the level IV on the Execu­ 1984 and 1985 and, if the full amount neces­ tive Schedule.". Mr. FUQUA. Mr. Chairman, these sary to make such adjustments is not appro­ INVESTIGATION OF STRUCTURAL FAILURES amendments clarify the report and priated, the remainder of the amount neces­ SEc. 307. (a) The National Bureau of weight provisions in the bill. The lan­ sary to make such adjustments shall be Standards, on its own initiative and in ac­ guage is being removed by the amend­ taken proportionately from the amounts ap­ cordance with this section, shall initiate and ment as written as a convenience to propriated pursuant to sections 103 and 203 conduct investigations to determine the the executive branch. We have learned and pursuant to the line items in sections causes of structural failures in structures 101(a) and 201; and at the page 12, line 23, insert "(a)" after "306.". exceed 10 per centum of the amount au­ conclusion of the investigation the Bureau On page 13, after line 2, insert the follow­ thorized for that line item in sections 10Ha> shall submit to the Secretary a final report ing new subsection: and 20l before Bureau. The CHAIRMAN pro tempore. Is the expiration of such thirty calendar days In any case where the Bureau's own there objection to the request of the staff does not include persons possessing the gentleman from Florida? the Chairmen of both the Committee on technical skills or expertise in a particular Science and Technology of the House of discipline which would be required to con­ There was no objection. Representatives and the Committee on duct an investigation under subsection Mr. FUQUA. Mr. Chairman, these Commerce, Science, and Transportation of or any part of such an investigation, the amendments are offered to comply the Senate have written to the Secretary to with our agreement with the Commit­ the effect that they have no objection to Bureau shall take such steps as may be nec­ the proposed transfer. essary to obtain and utilize for purposes of tee on the Budget that the level must such investigation to authorize appro­ decade of the 1970's. Our dependency priations to the Secretary of Com­ The SPEAKER pro tempore of rule XXIII, de- receive money advanced by non-Feder­ mation Hydroelectric Powerplant Au­ clare the House resolved into the Commit- al entities for the purpose of con­ thorization Act. tee of the Whole House on the State of the structing facilities of the Central Ari­ Mr. QUILLEN. Mr. Speaker, I yield Union for the consideration of the bill to authorize the Secretary of the Inte- the Colorado River Basin Project Act Mr. Speaker, it would be redundant rior to c~nstruct , operate, and ~aintai? ~y- . of 1968, and to spend these funds for me to go into detail on the rule droelectn~ power-plants at vanous existmg without further appropriations for water proJects, and for other purposes, and since it has been ably explained. I the first reading of the bill shall be dis- sue~ purpose. . . think it is fine that we are adding hy­ pensed with. After general debate, which ~mally, upo~ conclusiOn of consider­ droelectric generating plants to seven shall be confined to the bill and shall con- at10n of the bill for amendment, one existing dams. This saves gas and oil tinue not to exceed one hour, to be equ~lly motion to recommit with or without now used for the production of elec­ divided and controlled by the chairman"'and instructions would be in order. tricity. I think it is time that we used ranking minority member of the Committee Mr. Speaker, H.R. 4275 authorizes more of our water resources for hydro­ on Interior 3:nd Insular Affairs, the bill the Secretary of the Department of electric production, and I urge the shall. be c?ns1dered for amen~ent under the Interior to construct and operate the fiVe-mrnute rule. It shall be m order to . . adoption of the rule. consider the amendment in the nature of a hydroelec~n? generatn~g pla~ts .at Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the substitute recommended by the committee seven existmg dams m Cahforma, gentleman from Arizona . rule XXI are upg~admg of .~oover J?~~ electnc gen­ tion Act of 1983 that was reported hereby waived. At the conclusion of the con- erat10n and VISitor facilities. from the Rules Committee last week. sideration of the bill for amendment, the Powerplant construction is expected Of particular importance in this bill Committee shall rise and report the bill to to be completed by fiscal year 1992. is title II. This title does the following: the House with such amendments as may Moneys appropriated under this bill First, authorizes an uprating program have been adopted, an~ any Member may will be repaid to the Federal Treasury at Hoover Dam on the Colorado River demand a separate vot: m the House. on any with interest from revenues generated amendment adopted m the Committee of . . to renovate the existing generators at the Whole to the bill or to the committee from the productiOn of powe~. It~ ex­ the dam; second, allocates capacity amendment in the nature of a substitute. pected that the amount repaid Will be and energy from the existing plant The previous question shall be considered as $14 million annually beginning in the and the upratings to customers in Ari­ ordered on the bill and amendments thereto 1990's. zona, Nevada, and California; third, May 2, 198# CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10747 authorizes construction of a highway We have called this news conference to To close out our trip we met for nearly bridge across the Colorado River at a report to you the observations we have two hours with President Betancur of Co­ site downstream from the dam as well brought back from our recent six day visit lombia, who has been a leader in promoting to Honduras, Panama, and Colombia. the Contadora process. We also met exten­ as improvements to the Hoover Dam This situation in Central America is com­ sively with Ambassador Tambs, our ambas­ visitor's center; fourth, authorizes the plicated, sensitive, fluid and potentially ex­ sador to Bogota. addition of a rate component to power plosive. Some of our findings are summarized in sold from the dam to Arizona that will The purpose of our trip was two-fold. the bipartisan statement issued Sunday in be used to help repay the cost of the First, we were attempting to evaluate the Panama. In a moment, I will call on Con­ Central Arizona Project, another Fed­ ongoing American military presence in Hon­ gressman Regula and Congressman Fowler eral project; fifth, provides for the dis­ duras with particular emphasis on military to share with you their impressions of the construction which has taken place under trip. missal of the pending lawsuit regard­ the umbrella of recent military training ex­ For myself, however, there was one perva­ ing power allocation at the dam; and ercises. sive question that clouded our entire trip. sixth, authorizes the sale of surplus Second, we were trying to determine pre­ And that question was this: What is Ameri­ power from the federally built Navajo cisely what American foreign policy is in can foreign policy in Central America? powerplant in Page, AZ, to Arizona en­ that region. We wanted to know how the American diplomatic leadership, backed tities. United States is affecting the search for but not replaced by military force, is urgent­ This bill allows the Federal Govern­ peace in Central America. We wanted to ly needed. Only clear and coherent diplo­ hear from the Contadora nations how the matic leadership can win the support and ment to improve and renovate one of United States could assist them in bringing friendship of the vary nations in which we this Nation's greatest resources, the stability to the region through negotiations seek to combat the spread of communism. Hoover Dam. It also has provisions rather than violence. The actions of the Contadora nations, and which allow for repayment by power The first three days of the trip were de­ the vote in El Salvador, are statements of a users for another Federal project, the voted exclusively to a detailed examination desire for peace. I believe the respective na­ of military construction in Honduras. We tions and factions are closer than ever Central Arizona Project, which will examined nearly nine key sites where the bring money into the Treasury as a before to accepting a verifiable, negotiated United States has funded construction of end to the bloodshed. return on both the investment in military installations. Among those we re­ I believe there is an appropriate role for power at Hoover Dam and water for viewed were Comayagua, the Regional Mili­ the American military to play in coopera­ central and southern Arizona. This bill tary Training Center at Trujillo, Camp Sea tion with our Latin neighbors. Indeed, we is fair and well planned compromise Eagle, Puerta Castilla, Aguacate, Jamas­ saw evidence of many positive and construc­ for the use and marketing of power tran, Cerro La Mole, Tiger Island, and San tive joint training efforts between our coun­ generated at Hoover Dam and I urge Lorenzo. At each site we were accompanied tries. But military action can not substitute by representatives of the General Account­ for diplomatic initiative-particularly in my colleagues to support this bill. ing Office, who have been monitoring these Mr. QUILLEN. Mr. Speaker, I have Central America where the Contadora proc­ sites at Congressional request. ess offers a meaningful opportunity to no further requests for time, and I After extensive meetings with foreign achieve some measure of peace in the yield back the balance of my time. ministers, leaders of numerous political region. Mr. LONG of Louisiana. Mr. Speak­ groups, American ambassadors, political and Our meetings convinced us of widespread er, I have no further requests for time, military officers, I feel that we came no closer to discovering the objectives of Amer­ support for the Contadora process. After all, and I move the previous question on ican policy than when we sta-rted. Confusion it is a process by which the nations of the the resolution. over American policy is rampant, and there region are seeking to write the rules by The previous question was ordered. appears to be little optimism for change in which they themselves might live in peace. The resolution was agreed to. the near future. I was deeply disappointed to discover that A motion to reconsider was laid on However, there is no confusion on one the United States is not perceived as encour­ the table. point: aging of this process. Indeed we saw clear Our growing military presence in the indications that the United States is dispar­ region is completely overshadowing any dip­ aging of the entire process, looking instead lomatic policy we may have toward our to its military power as the key to the REPORT ON TRIP TO CENTRAL Latin neighbors. The diplomatic initiatives future of Latin America. AMERICA in the region come totally from the Latin I do not understand this unhealthy reli­ . It is at this site structed in such a way as to make them suit­ and funding in laws naming the site and fa­ that a U.S. Military Training Team, fi­ able for long-range usage with relatively cilities are located at Palmerola Air Force nanced by a U.S. Security Assistance grant minor additional work. In many cases, Base, Comayaqua, Honduras; is training both Honduran and El Salvador­ simple maintenance is only necessary to pre­ There remains the underlying, vitally im­ an troops. Using operations and mainte­ serve these facilities for longer-range uses. portant question of why Congress was not nance funding, the U.S. Corps of Engineers Construction has been extensive-far more adequately informed about the extent of constructed 27 wooden CAT huts at this site extensive to my layman's eye-than should U.S. involvement in Central America; and, which continue to belong to the U.S. gov­ be required for simple military training. In each location where wood facilities ernment. The Honduran government con­ I am not convinced that the millions of were built these facilities are one step structed additional CAT huts at this site. dollars we have poured into these construc­ nearer long-term use facilities than are the Like those at Comayaqua, the CAT huts at tion sites are purely in support of military tents originally installed at the sites. this site are being maintained and used. exercises. The preponderance of evidence COMAYAQUA leads me to the tortuous, difficult conclu­ AQUACATE sion that there is more here than meets the This is the site of the Honduran Palmer­ Prior to the beginning of Big Pine II there eye. While the Administration's interpreta­ ala Air Force Base. It is also one of the two was already in place at this site a dirt land­ tion may be reasonable in an isolated con­ sites at which the Congress has authorized ing strip capable of being used by C-130 air­ text, the fact is that the larger picture sug­ specific military construction by the U.S. craft. During Big Pine II, the U.S. Corps of government using specifically appropriated gests there is more at stake. Engineers, using operations and mainte­ For example, it troubles me that the Ad­ military construction funds. The second site nance funding, added a 4,000 foot extention ministration has not produced the compre­ for which the Congress has authorized U.S. to the existing airfield. This work included hensive regional plan for military construc­ military construction using appropriated the installation of culverts of alleviate a tion that was required by the 1984 Defense military construction funds is La Ceiba, a flooding problem occurring during Hondu­ Appropriations bill before any further con­ second Honduran air base. The Congress ran rainy seasons. This visit to this site was struction was to take place. has prohibited DOD from using the $8 mil­ by C-130 aircraft. The landing strip appears It troubles me that the exercises in Hon­ lion appropriated for La Ceiba prior to the to be receiving appropriate maintenance. In duras appear to have no end. Administration providing to the Congres­ addition, at this site the U.S. Engineers It troubles me that the scope and size of sional Committees on Appropriations with built three CAT huts. the exercises appear to exceed those of any the complete U.S. construction plan for the It has been estimated that most U.S. air­ other similar exercises the United States Central American region. craft could land on an 8,000 foot airfield, has ever conducted. The authorized construction, with U.S. which is the length of the Aquacate landing It troubles me that U.S. military person­ military construction funds, at Palmerola is strip, although not all U.S. military aircraft nel are assuming increasingly significant for airfield improvements, fuel storage and can use a dirt landing strip. and dangerous roles in the operations of the lighting. When completed this would be the NoTE.-Dirt landstrips such as this one are Salvadoran and Honduran forces. first airfield in Honduras with lighting for termed "hasty" air strips. The U.S. Corps of Finally, let me add that the conduct of night landings of aircraft. Engineers build them to take 20 to 40 C-130 the military personnel we saw in these coun­ Additional construction has taken place at landings during the rainy season. tries was second to none. I know my two col­ this site, funded with DOD operations and maintenance money. This includes approxi­ JAMASTRAN leagues join me in saying that we have The Corps of Engineers are currently nothing but praise for them. My own con­ mately 175 wooden, Central American Trop­ ical CCAT> huts. These are used for bar­ working at this site building a "hasty" C- cern is that we are now dangerously close to 130 capable landing strip. There is a base thrusting the burden of foreign policy on racks, and base support camp facilities. Under construction at the time of the Dele­ camp in place here, built by the Corps the shoulders of professional soldiers. We which includes perimeter earthworks as a did that in Lebanon less than one year ago. gation's visit were a small recreation build­ ing and a barber shop. These buildings are security measure. Troops are housed in We must not do it again. not the type normally designated for "per­ tents. There are five CAT huts at this site The three of us have appealed to Secre­ which were moved here from San Lorenzo, tary Shultz for a meeting-a meeting at manent" installations in the United States, but, with maintenance, could have a use-life where they were originally built during Big which we could share these concerns and Pine II. The work being done at Jamastran urge him and the President to come forward ranging from two to twenty-five years. These buildings replace wooden tent plat­ is part of Grenadaro I, a training exercise with an honest and open foreign policy. involving U.S. and Honduran military Debate in a democracy is not to be feared, forms. In the Honduran climate tents are considered to have a use-life of six months forces. but embraced. Bipartisan support for for­ Grenadaro I began in late March and is eign policy is possible, if the policy-makers and are considerably less comfortable for military forces than are tents. scheduled for completion in late June. are willing to let the American people know Jamastran landing strip is one of two what they are trying to do. TRUJILLO being built or improved to C-130 capability There were three separate facilities visited during Grenadaro I. The other is at Cucuya­ MEMORANDUM ON FACILITIES VIEWED AT in this area. At Trujillo itself is located a qua near the Hondoran/El Salvador border. MILITARY FACILITIES SITES IN HONDURAS, hard-surfaced landing strip. The work fi­ Due to unfavorable weather the Delegation MAY 2, 1984 nanced by the U.S. at this site was carried was unable to visit Cucuyaqua. This memorandum does not itemize all fa­ out by both U.S. military forces and by a cilities observed at all sites. private sector contractor. It included the ex­ SAN LORENZO This memorandum should not be taken as tension of the landing strip and the con­ Due to poor flying conditions, the Delega­ labeling any site visited as the property of struction of a hard surfaced parking apron tion was able only to overfly this location. the U.S. Government since the information for aircraft. During Big Pine II, which ended in Febru­ provided to the Congressional Delegation is The second site in this area is Camp Sea ary, the U.S. Corps of Engineers built a that the U.S. activities at these sites are re- Eagle. At this site Navy Seabees, using oper- "hasty" airfield and a base camp of CAT May 2, 1981,. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10749 huts at this location. Except for the CAT addresses the problem created by stat­ These obsolete provisions have no huts moved to Jamastran the base camp re­ utes that consider men to be the domi­ place in our society. We must elimi­ mains in place. The Delegation was told this nant or more important member of a nate sex-based distinctions from our landing strip was not being maintained and is now closed to C-130 traffic. family. For example, many statutes laws. It is estimated that a "hasty airfield" give preference to fathers over moth­ which has not been maintained could be re­ ers. conditioned for C-130 use in a time period This bill eliminates sex-based dis­ PRESIDENT REAGAN RIGHT ON ranging from two days to three weeks. tinctions that exist in the definition of LIBYA TIGER ISLAND criminal sexual activity. For example, and the Nation are the GIANELLI tions of water development to the Na­ better for his life. He was a leader, a

May 2, 1981,. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10757 man and respected him as a legisla­ because of his character, his service to had the privilege to serve with him in tor.e others, and the achievements and ac­ the Congress of the United States. e Mr. DICKINSON. Mr. Speaker, it is complishments he left as his living me­ Mrs. Annunzio and I extend our with great sadness that we conduct morial. • deepest sympathy to the members of this special order today on our late e Mr. FISH. Mr. Speaker, I rise in his family who survive him.e colleague, Walter Flowers of Tuscaloo­ tribute to my former colleague and • Mr. RUSSO. Mr. Speaker, I recall sa,AL. dear friend, Walter Flowers. the days of 1975 when a young and Even though this is a sad occasion Walter served on the Judiciary Com­ somewhat lost freshman Illinois Con­ because Walter Flowers is no longer mittee with me during the impeach­ gressman was challenged trying to with us, it is my great privilege to join ment hearings. He was a voice of calm learn his way around the Halls of the in the celebration of the high charac­ and reason in a very tragic and confus­ buildings, much less the workings of ter and great service with which ing time in our history. Walter and I the Judiciary Committee to which he Walter Flowers served the people of were part of a bipartisan group of had been assigned. It is a story we can Alabama and our Nation. seven Judiciary Committee members all tell-we all recall our first over­ As I remember Walter, I see a bril­ who joined together to draft the first whelming weeks in Congress. And for liant man, the product of Alabama two articles of impeachment. We were me-that particular Congressman public schools and the University of nicknamed the "fragile coalition" even from Chicago in the Judiciary Com­ Alabama and its law school, of which I though some members of the media mittee-! also recall the kindness and am also a graduate. Walter achieved a preferred to call us "the unholy alli­ patience of a premier Congressman high reputation and many honors at ance." Walter's independent judgment who took the time to help. the University of Alabama. Although I and deliberative nature coupled with a The Honorable Walter Flowers was attended the university ahead of soft-spoken manner were admired by everyone on the committee and in the a friend and there to help at an espe­ Walter, I was always impressed at his cially crucial time. It is important for record of accomplishments at the uni­ House. His wife Beverly recently wrote new legislators to have someone to versity including the student body to tell me that the last letter Walter presidency and such honors as selec­ wrote was a response to my letter on show them the ropes, and if that tion for Phi Beta Kappa, Omicron the fragile coalition. Needless to say, someone is as knowledgeable and Delta Kappa, and the Jasons. I am this exemplary son of Alabama re­ thoughtful as Representative Flowers proud that he was my fraternity named the group "the magnificent always was, it is a special bonus. I also brother in the mother chapter of seven". came to appreciate the thoughtfulness Sigma Alpha Epsilon. Walter Flowers served with distinc­ Representative Flowers extended to As a brilliant scholar, Walter was a tion as chairman of the Subcommittee everyone in his work. He was very fair, rotary fellow, following graduation on Administrative Law and Govern­ understanding and had the respect of from law school, to the University of mental Relations of the Judiciary people from across the political spec­ London. Committee. During his tenure on that trum. His moderation of tone did not Following completion of Walter's committee, he worked diligently on diminish the strength of his convic­ formal education, he served our the Government in the Sunshine Act tions or talents of persuasion Nation as an Army intelligence officer requiring Federal regulatory agencies He was a gentleman, a kind and with 2 years' active duty after which to hold their meetings in public. He decent human being, a fine legislator. he returned home to Tuscaloosa to also worked diligently to enact strong­ I join my colleagues in paying tribute enter the practice of law. During the er lobbying disclosure laws. to him and in extending my sympathy time before he was elected to Con­ Walter was highly respected by to his family.e gress, Walter was extremely active in a Members on both sides of the aisle as e Mr. SCHULZE. Mr. Speaker, I rise multitude of civic affairs including a man of integrity and fairness. I send to pay tribute to one of our former col­ Boy Scouts, YMCA, mental health as­ my deepest sympathy to his wife, Bev­ leagues, Walter Flowers, who died at sociations, the United Fund, the Red erly and family.e age 51 on April 12. Cross, and the bar association. e Mr. ANNUNZIO. Mr. Speaker, I rise Walter is probably best known to I first got to know Walter well and to pay tribute to our former colleague, the American people as one of 38 on a personal basis after he was elect­ the Honorable Walter Flowers of Ala­ Members of Congress who served on ed to Congress in 1968. I quickly bama, whose untimely death on April the House Judiciary Committee during learned that Walter Flowers complete­ 12, is a tremendous loss to the people the Watergate hearings in 1974. How­ ly measured up to the great reputation of this Nation. ever, his colleagues in the House knew that preceded him to Congress. He Walter Flowers served in the U.S. him as a man of courage, wisdom, hon­ quickly developed into a highly effec­ House of Representatives for 10 years, esty, and charity long before his name tive legislator and respected states­ and he represented his constituents was known outside of the State of Ala­ man. I personally knew that I could from the Seventh Congressional Dis­ bama and the U.S. Congress. He count on the soundness of Walter's trict of Alabama with distinction, deep worked with a dedication and commit­ counsel and advice on issues handled compassion, and courage. ment to excellence as a member of the by his committees-Judiciary, Science During his career in Congress, he Committee on Science and Technology and Technology, and Aging. compiled an outstanding record of and chairman of its Energy Research I know of no man who better served achievement as a member of the and Development Subcommittee, and his district, State, and the Nation than Democratic Steering and Policy Com­ as chairman of the Subcommittee on did Walter Flowers. He was an influen­ mittee, the House Select Committee Administrative Law of the House Judi­ tial, respected, and most effective on Aging, and the House Science and cary Committee. member of the House of Representa­ Technology Committee. His dedication When he left the House in 1978, he tives. He was brilliant; a man of charm to the highest standards, as a member enriched the legal community just as and wit; intelligent, personable and of the House Judiciary Committee, he had enriched the House of Repre­ generous; a true product of the new was an inspiration to his friends and sentatives with his knowledge and ex­ South-a statesman of great charac­ fellow citizens alike. perience. He possessed a grace and so­ ter. I greatly enjoyed the 10 years as Congressman Flowers was a man de­ phistication which at once offered his colleague in the House. voted to the people of his district, to friendship and commanded respect. I feel a very deep loss in Walter's his State, and to his country, and was His talents and his contributions to death. He will be sorely missed by all highly respected by his colleagues for the public good will long be remem­ of his colleagues, friends, and loved his honesty and integrity. He will be bered. Walter Flowers, the man, will ones. However, his memory will live long remembered by those of us who long be missed.e 10758 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE May 2, 1984 e Mr. WHITEHURST. Mr. Speaker, warm friendship and fond recollec­ was always full of fun, caring, and like so many of my colleagues, I was tion.• helpful. shocked by the announcement on e Mr. DE LA GARZA. Mr. Speaker, the Even after he returned to private April 12 of the death of Walter Flow­ sudden passing of Walter Flowers ear­ life, he maintained his congressional ers. I remember so well the friendship lier this month is a shock which sad­ friendships and helped many of us that we formed when I came to Con­ dens us all. raise campaign funds, even those like gress in 1969. Walter's warm personali­ Walter Flowers was a good man and me who often disagreed with him and ty made him beloved by all of us in the a good Member. He worked hard for his clients. 91st Congress. In the difficult years of his district, for the State of Alabama Walter was a wonderful person. I the Watergate crisis that followed, we and for the Nation. join in condolences to his wife and came to appreciate Walter's strength As a colleague I knew Walter Flow­ children. He will be sorely missed by of character. Calm in the face of enor­ ers to be a man of strength and convic­ them and by his many friends, in Con­ mous political pressure, Walter Flow­ tions, of humor and insight, of action gress and without.e ers never deviated from his goal of and deeds. He was an able legislator Mr. COUGHLIN. Mr. Speaker, I duty and constitutional responsibility. who weighed carefully all sides of a yield to the gentleman from New I cannot count the times during that question before making up his mind. Mexico , and in effect, to permit the nocent civilians-terrorism-is carried out to our efforts in South America or importation of products that involve today by individuals and nations represent­ Grenada you can only be struck with slave labor. ing two ideas, Marxist-Leninism and Islamic the savage unreality of comparing fanaticism. Aside from their faith in totali­ Now, let me carry all of this one step tarianism, these two ideas have only one what the United States did in Grenada further. We live in a very dangerous thing in common-a shared abhorrence of with the Soviets. time. The primary problem we face in democratic freedoms. These terrorists are Let me continue: this House is a basic disagreement not blowing people up because they are on American-educated priests across Latin about the nature of reality. Those of some sort of homicidal joyride. They blow America preach Marxism and then have to 10764 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE May 2, 1981, explain away their students' tendency to tudes the Wall Street Journal talked in fact the Fascell-Moakley amend­ spend years blowing up the nation. about today in its editoral entitled ment passes and we unilaterally Let me go back and cite for just a "Terrorism in the West." disarm in Central America, making it moment something which was said in Furthermore, one of the major con­ impossible to stop communism, be­ the pastoral letter in reconciliation sequences of the Fascell-Moakly cause human beings love freedom, we from the Nicaraguan bishops this amendment is going to be a dramatic can expect-and I should explain to Easter. It is very important. Across increase in the number of refugees the gentleman from Pennsylvania how America there are radical ministers who come to America. But this has al­ I arrive at these figures; so anyone lis­ and liberal ministers who, frankly, ready been provided for. tening will understand these are not have become, I think have fallen for H.R. 4447, House of Representatives just made up. the radical line. And this is what the bill No. 4447, "to provide for the tem­ The number of refugees from com­ Nicaraguan bishops of the Catholic porary suspension of deportation for Church in Nicaragua just this last few certain aliens who are nationals of El munism in Afghanistan is about 16 Salvador and to provide for Presiden­ percent of the population of Afghani­ weeks said: stan. They do not have places as nice One, albeit small, sector of our church, tial and congressional review of condi­ has abandoned ecclesiastical unity and sur­ tions in El Salvador and for other pur­ as Los Angeles, El Paso, San Antonio, rendered to the tenets of materialistic ideol­ poses," introduced back on November and Phoenix to go to; they are going ogy. This sector sows confusion inside and 19, 1983. into refugee camps in Pakistan. outside Nicaragua through a campaign ex­ What does this bill do? I yield to the Even so, in order to get away from tolling its own ideas and defaming the legiti­ gentleman. communism, 16 percent of the popula­ mate pastors and the faithful who follow tion of Afghanistan has fled. them. Censorship of the media makes it im­ Mr. WALKER. I appreciate the gen­ possible to clarify the positions and offer tleman yielding. The figures for Cuba were around 10 other points of view. Do I understand correctly what the percent; but in Cuba you have to get In other words, what the Nicaraguan gentleman is saying is that if we enact on a boat and cross 90 miles of water. bishops are saying to us, the leaders of the Fascell-Moakley amendment that The thing people do not realize about the Catholic Church in Nicaragua, is is going to be before us next week, Central America is that it is only 2 that the Communist Government of what we will do is unilaterally disarm days ride by car from El Salvador to Nicaragua censors the press and that in Central America, we will turn over the Texas border; that in fact El Sal­ pro-Communist members of the large portions of Central America, pos­ vador is closer to Miami than Miami is church spread what are essentially sibly, to Communist domination, to Washington, DC. falsehoods. And the next time you which will result in a wave of refugees So my guess, basically all we did was have a minister tell you how we headed north into the United States? take the Afghanistan numbers; about should get out of Nicaragua and we Some people predicted it could be as 16 percent, though I think it would be should get out of El Salvador, ask many as 11 million refugees. Then higher because the United States is a them whether they have read the pas­ what we have is a bill that has been in­ more desirable place to flee to than is toral letter form the Nicaraguan bish­ troduced that would legalize all of Pakistan; my guess is if you take those ops and why they would oppose people those refugees; almost doubling the figures and apply them to the current who represent the legitimate church number of people today that are clas­ populations of Central America and and are there. sified today as illegal aliens; we are Mexico and you understand we have But let me go on: going to legalize those with the bill clearly, we have the statement of the In a letter to this paper, Rep. Jim Wright being introduced. Nicaraguans and the statements of the approves of efforts to help El Salvador but Mr. GINGRICH. My understanding guerrillas in El Salvador, that they are denounces "externally supported terrorism is that the bill introduced by one of fighting for all of Central America; against the government of Nicaragua," ap­ the two gentleman cosponsoring the parently equating planting acoustical mines this is not a national war; that is war amendment to cripple us in Central for control of the region; then I think in harbors handling Soviet military ship­ America is a very clear bill; which as I ments with shooting the pope or spraying a you have to count on the same per­ London street with machine-gun fire. read it clearly would legalize the centage of refugees coming to the We would like to be able to think the 500,000 El Salvadoran nationals who United States as a minimum; our base Reagan administration's legislative cam­ are already here and would set the line figure and the base line figure I paign against terrorism might deter the base, I would think, for legalizing the arrive at is something on the order of anti-Western activities of Col. Qadhafi, the 13 million or so refugees we can expect Soviet Union, North Korea, Bulgaria and if Central America and Mexico go 13 million, 12.8 million people. Iran. But if more of our political leaders and Communist. I yield to the gentleman. intellectuals don't start showing a better un­ So this bill sort of creates the frame­ Mr. WALKER. And that is a figure derstanding of the basic reason for resisting work for the United States to absorb I which is somewhat equal to the figure Marxist and Islamic terrorism, the West will of illegal aliens that are now in the some day need a lot more help than it's think between 13 and 15 million refu­ gees over the next 10 years. United States which we have been going to get from four new anti-terrorism wrestling with around here for some laws. I yield to the gentleman. Mr. WALKER. So in other words, years now, not knowing what to do 0 2000 our refusal to put money into the de­ with that number. Let me put this back in the context fense of freedom in Central America Mr. GINGRICH. That is correct. of the U.S. House of Representatives. will result in enormous costs to this Mr. WALKER. So we would almost Next week we are going to take up this country, both in terms of an increased overnight double the figure of illegal amendment, the Fascell-Moakly unemployment rate because obviously aliens that we have already been wres­ amendment, which is in effect the uni­ those people are going to come here tling with? lateral disarmament amendment for without jobs; and we do not have the Mr. GINGRICH. I think that is Central America. It does just about ev­ capacity in our economy at the probably about right. I think you have erything bad you could do to fighting present time to absorb them into the to go a step further and say to your­ for freedom and trying to protect free­ labor market, and which means that if self, that means we have to create 15 dom in Central America. they are legalized under the kind of million additional jobs over and above It fits precisely the world view that bill that is contemplated here, that we the jobs we need to employ the people thinks the United States is the same would have to pay them welfare bene­ who are already here who want to as the Soviet Union; that thinks that fits as well. work. So it is potentially an enormous somehow there is never a good reason Mr. GINGRICH. I think the gentle­ problem, a problem of tremendous to defend freedom, precisely the atti- man is right. We have to figure that if proportions. May 2, 1984 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 10765 And as I said, House of Representa­ Congress adopts another joint resolu­ quote Mr. Grigorski because I think it tives H.R. 4447 is a bill which would tion. It prohibits joint military oper­ is an exactly accurate statement of permit them to stay in the United ations in Honduras and Guatemala. It what is happening with the radical States. But it goes beyond that. As the restricts the number of U.S. military wing of the Democratic Party. gentleman started to talk about wel­ in Honduras, prohibits the use of U.S. He goes on to say: fare, I think frankly we should not military in Guatemala, limits military What is really fascinating about this expect people to live badly. But this aid to Honduras, prohibits credits and letter, about House debates on Central bill would direct the President to guaranteed loans to Honduras, prohib­ America since Reagan became President and report to the Congress how many refu­ its military aid and sales to Guatema­ indeed about so many foreign policy com­ gees there are; and let me read the la. ments by so many Democrats since 1974 is rest of this because I think everybody Let me just read the words. Notice the implied world view of the Democratic in America has been down this road what the Wall Street Journal was talk­ Party. Since August, the Republican Study before; also the President should ing about. We face a world crisis. Committee has collected Democratic com­ mentary on Southeast Asia, Angola, Nicara­ report the living conditions of such Almost every American has seen the gua, Granada, and El Salvador. We have persons with particular attention to film from London of this policewoman compared predictions with results and sifted their personal safety and availability who was killed standing there on a through dozens of statements to derive the of food and medical assistance. peaceful street in a great city. unifying themes. We found a way of viewing What does that mean? That means We have seen how bad it is. Every­ the world that is simplistic, defeatist and that the U.S. Government should pro­ one who walks into the Capitol to simply not competent when applied to the vide all the medical care they need; all vote, walks right by pillars that have dangers the U.S. faces. Here are its five ele­ the food they need; all the housing been built, concrete, just to stop ments stated as postulates. they need. trucks from running into the Capitol These are the views of the radical Let us go on: "The resources avail­ and setting off a bomb. Democratic world view which I think able for humanitarian assistance, in­ In the middle of a dangerous world, is characterized in the Fascell-Moak­ cluding the methods and policies re­ are we authorizing the President to ley amendment, which is characterized specting distribution of such assist­ make America safe? Are we authoriz­ by the bill to admit more refugees, ance and obstacles which may prevent ing the President to do w'1at it takes which is characterized by the actions the efficient and equitable distribution in Central America to preserve free­ that we have seen day after day here of such assistance." dom and allow people to live in their on the House floor. This is the radical In other words, more bureaucracy, own country in freedom? Democratic world view as described by more welfare workers, more delivery No. These are the code words; pro­ Mr. Frank Grigorski. systems, more money. "Furthermore, hibits, prohibits; restricts; restrictive; 1. There are no evil ideologies or govern­ steps that can be taken to improve the restricts; prohibits; restricts; prohibits; ing systems in the world except apartheid. status of such persons." limits; prohibits; prohibits. Communists are at heart are reformers who What does that mean? More special In other words, what we are saying, are too rough in their tactics. They are not education, more special training, more what the radical Democrats are saying inherently bad, but the U.S. is so clumsy in costs. Furthermore, it goes on to sug­ is that the United States should be to­ its dealing with communist forces that we gest that we should not only be con­ facilitate or give them excuses for their ex­ tally handicapped in its ability to act, cesses. cerned about the Salvadorans who are should be totally tied up, should have 2. Left wing extremism is caused by a living here but we should also look at its hands locked; should have no ca­ right wing tyranny and the U.S. makes both the number of Salvadorans living in pacity to act and this is in a region, let worse. We finance rightist forces and make Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico, me remind you, where there are 55 the leftist ones worse by not competing with and report how much foreign aid we American advisers in El Salvador, and the Soviets to finance them. There is always need to give to those three countries there are close to 3,500 Cuban and hope that Cuba, Nicaragua, Vietnam, et to take care of the additional refuges. Soviet advisers in Nicaragua. cetera, will behave if only we treat them as So in addition, during the transition sincere nations run by people not too differ­ 0 2010 ent from us. when those countries will be collaps­ 3. Foreign policy conflicts get worse when ing, which they will if we keep losing This is a region where the Soviets America intervenes. The lesson of Vietnam the war in Central America, then we alone are sending $114 million in mili­ is the United States cannot impose its will will see even more effort involved. tary aid to Nicaragua in the form of anywhere. And what Presidents call "vital Let me go on and say that we have equipment. This is in a region where interests" usually are not worth fighting to confront the fact that there is al­ the Soviets are engaged in $300 million for. To ease world tension the United States ready in the radical wing of the Demo­ in military construction in over 40 should keep a low profile wherever it wants cratic Party a willingness to accept ref­ bases in Nicaragua. to maintain influence. 4. Military force is proper only to defend ugees in enormous numbers and they Faced with that crisis, faced with the United States and perhaps a few demo­ are already putting bills in that would the fact that the only tanks in Central cratic allies against an attack already under­ make that happen. America are Soviet tanks in Nicaragua, way. But threatening force to prevent a But let us look for a moment at the there are three battalions of them and feared attack is always too risky. Force Fascell-Moakley amendment and why tanks are an offensive weapon, what is never really settles anything, and if it does, I would say it is unilateral disarma­ the response of the radical Democrats? it should not. ment. What does it do? It is interest­ Their response is to restrict and 5. Political negotiations and military force ing the words they use. It prohibits disarm and cripple the United States. have nothering to do with each other. Klauswitz was wrong. Conservative Presi­ President's use of section 506, defen­ And they have already prepared a bill dents who subsidize or threaten force prove sive equipment drawdown authority; it to accept the refugees once we guaran­ they are not serious about negotiations. Lib­ prohibits use of section 2l fusion and misunderstanding. By "I've lived in the fast lane for a lot of once told me that every great man gets fired being charged exorbitant prices for years and I want to slow down," says once. So when Channel 13 let me go, it every transaction, the consumer who Beahon. didn't bother me. thinks he is eaming a good return on "I'm going to lower my golf handicap "Channel 8 fired me at 2 p.m. If they had his money finds his profit dwindling from 26 to 25 and spend more time with my told me a few hours earlier, I could've away. I am appalled that any bank grandchildren. I might even cut the grass played golf. It was a heckuva nice day." myself instead of paying the kid across the George joined the Times-Union Dec. 3, would profit off the good will of the street." 1979 and was the Press-Radio Club's Sports­ consumer in this manner, and I deeply Fortunately for his thousands of devoted writer of the Year in 1979 and 1980. regret that the Congress did not fans orders heretofore entered, was granted Mrs. BYRON. and from a very early age he knew he to: Mr. GAYDOS. wasn't cut out to be a pro athlete. the Committee on the Judiciary. "Silver Stadium has lots of tradition, but S.J. Res. 261. Joint resolution to provide you can't have a team unless you have a Mr. ANNUNZIO, for 5 minutes, today. for the designation of the last week in June place to play, and how much longer will Mr. KASTENMEIER, for 5 minutes, 1984 as "Helen Keller Deaf-Blind Awareness Silver be there?" today. Week"; to the Committee on Post Office Red Wings fans hope Silver Stadium will Mr. ST GERMAIN, for 5 minutes, and Civil Service. be around for at least a few more decades, today. with George Beahon in the press box. Mr. ALEXANDER, for 60 minutes, That's where he belongs. The place today. BILLS PRESENTED TO THE wouldn't be quite the same without him. He's a major-leaguer in a good minor­ Mr. GoNZALEZ, for 60 minutes, today. PRESIDENT league town; a big-city talent who chose to Mr. HAWKINS, from the Commit­ stay home. EXTENSION OF REMARKS tee on House Administration, reported He'll be proud to know that a lot of his By unanimous consent, permission that that committee did on this day peers consider him to be " the Red Smith of present to the President, for his ap­ Rochester." to revise and extend remarks was granted to: proval, bills of the House of the fol­ United States holds certain lands in trust for the Makah Indian Tribe, Washington; sence was granted to: Mr. ERLENBORN. and Mr. LEWIS of Florida ; to the Committee on the Dis­ with required residency when deportation p.m.) the House adjourned until to­ trict of Columbia. causes hardship under section 244(a), Immi­ morrow, Thursday, May 3, 1984, at 11 3249. A letter from the Chairman, D.C. gration and Nationality Act, pursuant to a.m. Retirement Board, transmitting copies of INA, section 244(c) (66 Stat. 214, 76 Stat. the personal financial statements of the 1247>; to the Committee on the Judiciary. members of the Board, pursuant to Public 3260. A letter from the Director, Adminis­ Law 96-122, sections 162 and 164(a)(l)(A); to trative Office of the U.S. Courts, transmit­ EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, the Committee on the District of Columbia. ting the annual report on the applications ETC. 3250. A letter from the Chairman, Nation­ for court orders made to Federal and State Under clause 2 of rule XXIV, execu­ al Commission on Libraries and Information courts to permit the interception of wire or tive communications were taken from Science, transmitting the 12th annual oral communications during calendar year report of the Commission for the period 1983, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 2519<3>; to the the Speaker's table and referred as fol­ ending September 30, 1983, pursuant to Committee on the Judiciary. lows: Public Law 91-345, section 5(a)(7); to the 3261. A letter from the Director, National 3239. A letter from the Secretary of Committee on Education and Labor. Institute of Corrections, Department of Jus­ Energy, transmitting a report on a fiscal 3251. A letter from the Chairman, Adviso­ tice, transmitting the eighth annual report year 1981 Anti-Deficiency Act violation by ry Panel on financing Elementary and Sec­ of the Institute; to the Committee on the the Department's Regional Office I ondary Education, transmitting the Adviso­ Judiciary. ; to the Committee on Education and 504, section 3 <36 U.S.C. 1103>; to the Com­ the Pittsburgh Energy Technology Center, Labor. mittee on the Judiciary. pursuant to 31 U.S.C. 1517; to the Com­ 3252. A letter from the Administrator, 3263. A letter from the Treasurer General, mittee on Appropriations. Energy Information Administration, De­ Daughters of the American Revolution, 3241. A letter from the Secretary of partment of Energy, transmitting the 1983 transmitting the society's report and finan­ Energy, transmitting a report on a fiscal annual energy review, pursuant to FEAA, cial audit for the year ended February 29, year 1981 Anti-Deficiency Act violation by section 57; 1983, pursuant to Public Law 88-504, section the Southeastern Power Administration, to the Committee on Energy and Com­ 3 <36 U.S.C. 1103>; to the Committee on the pursuant to 31 U.S.C. 1517; to the Com­ merce. Judiciary. mittee on Appropriations. 3253. A letter from the Chairman of the 3264. A letter from the Assistant Secre­ 3242. A letter from the Assistant Secre­ Board, U.S. Railway Association, transmit­ tary for Legislative and Intergovernmental tary of Defense ; to the Committee on Energy and 1984), on property transferred under the 37 U.S.C. 1008 and 1009; to the Com­ Commerce. Panama Canal Treaty of 1977, pursuant to mittee on Armed Services. 3254. A letter from the Director, Defense 22 U.S.C. 3784, (90 Stat. mitting a copy of a lease prospectus, pursu­ 44), pursuant to 10 U.S.C. 133b <96 Stat. 741; 93 Stat. 708, 709, 710; 94 Stat. 3134; 95 ant to Public Law 86-249, section 7 (86 1288>; to the Committee on Armed Services. Stat. 1520>; to the Committee on Foreign Stat. 217>; to the Committee on Public 3244. A letter from the Assistant Secre­ Affairs. Works and Transportation. tary of the Army ; to the Committee on Foreign House Public Works Committee resolution 3245. A letter from the President and Affairs. ; to the Committee on Public Chairman, Export-Import Bank of the 3256. A letter from the Freedom of Infor­ Works and Transportation. United States, transmitting a report on mation Officer, Environmental Protection 3267. A letter from the Administrator, loan, guarantee and insurance transactions Agency, transmitting a report of the Agen­ Veterans' Administration, transmitting a supported by Eximbank during March 1984 cy's activities under the Freedom of Infor­ report on the disposition of cases granted to Communist countries, pursuant to the act mation Act for 1983, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. relief from administrative error, overpay­ of July 31, 1945, chapter 341, section 2(b)(2) 552; to the Committee on Government ment and forfeiture during 1983, pursuant (88 Stat. 2334); to the Committee on Bank­ Operations. to 38 U.S.C. 210(c)(3)(B); to the Committee ing, Finance and Urban Affairs. 3257. A letter from the Secretary, Postal on Veterans' Affairs. 3246. A letter from the Comptroller of the Rate Commission, transmitting the Com­ 3268. A letter from the Administrator, Currency, transmitting the annual report mission's report on its compliance with the Veterans' Administration, transmitting a on the economic viability of depository insti­ laws relating to open meetings of agencies draft of proposed legislation to amend title tutions, pursuant to Public Law 96-221, sec­ of the Government ; to the Committee on Govern­ 3269. A letter from the Secretary of the District of Columbia. ment Operations. Labor, transmitting a report on the funds 10772 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE May 2, 1984- expended for trade adjustment assistance that committee's jurisdiction pursuant to California, Mrs. BURTON of Califor­ training during the fourth quarter of fiscal clause l<2> <95 Stat. 885>; to the Com­ CROCKETT, Mr. DASCHLE, Mr. DEL· mittee on Ways and Means. LUMS, Mr. DIXON, Mr. DONNELLY, Mr. 3270. A letter from the Chairman, U.S. PUBLIC BILLS AND DURBIN, Mr. EARLY, Mr. ECKART, Mr. International Trade Commission, transmit­ RESOLUTIONS EDGAR, Mr. EDWARDS of California, ting a draft of proposed legislation to pro­ Under clause 5 of rule X and clause Mr. EVANS of illinois, Mr. FAUNTROY, vide authorization of appropriations for the 4 of rule XXII, public bills and resolu­ Mr. FEIGHAN, Mr. FoGLIETTA, Mr. U.S. International Trade Commission for FRANK, Mr. GARCIA, Mr. GEJDENSON, fiscal year 1986, pursuant to 31 U.S.C. 1110; tions were introduced and severally re­ ferred as follows: Mr. GLICKMAN, Mr. GRAY, Mr. to the Committee on Ways and Means. GREEN, Mrs. HALL of Indiana, Mr. 3271. A letter from the Comptroller of the By Mr. WHITTEN: HARKIN, Mr. HAYEs, Mr. JEFFORDS, Currency, transmitting the annual report H.R. 5564. A bill making supplemental ap­ Ms. KAPTUR, Mr. KASTENMEIER, Mrs. on the consumer affairs division's activities propriations for the fiscal year ending Sep­ KENNELLY, Mr. KILDEE, Mr. KOGOV· during 1983, pursuant to the act of Septem­ tember 30, 1984, and for other purposes. ber 26, 1914, chapter 311, section 18<0<6> <88 SEK, Mr. KOSTMAYER, Mr. LANTos, By Mr. FAUNTROY contain definite goals; Federal Government, the interest rate used (3) encourage customer consumption effi­ for computing interest during construction, rates so determined.". and interest on the unpaid balance of the -Page 21, line 5. Delete "(d)" and all that ciency improvements and demand manage­ interest-bearing reimbursable cost of the follows through p. 22, line 3; and reletter ment practices which ensure that the avail­ project, shall be determined by the Secre­ the following subsections accordingly. able supply of hydroelectric power is used in tary of the Treasury taking into consider­ -Page 22, line 5. Change the word "may" to an economically efficient and environmen­ ation average market yields on outstanding "shall" and delete the words "with appro· tally sound manner. marketable obligations of the United States priated funds or". SEc. 302. (a) Within one year after the with remaining periods to maturity compa­ -Page 22, line 8. After the word "section" date of enactment of this Act, Western shall rable to the reimbursement period of the delete the comma and the words "or a com­ amend its existing regulations ( 46 Fed. Reg. project during the month preceding the bination thereof.". 56140) to reflect- -Page 22, line 9. Delete the word "Any" fiscal year in which the costs are incurred. (!) the elements to be considered in the To the extent that more than one interest and change the word "funding" to "Fund· ing". energy conservation programs required by rate is determined pursuant to the preced­ this Title. and ing sentence, the Secretary of the Treasury -Page 24, line 10. Delete the word "appro· priated" through the words "any ~unds" on (2) Western's criteria for evaluating and shall establish for repayment purposes an approving such programs. interest rate at a weighted average of the line 12. rates so determined. -Page 24, line 13. After "purchasers", Such amended regulations shall be promul­ Page 15, strike out lines 5 through 10 and delete the comma, and insert "for the uprat­ gated only after public notice and opportu­ insert in lieu thereof the following: "taking ing program". nity to comment in accordance with the Ad­ into consideration average market yields on -Page 24, line 15. Delete "the installation, ministrative Procedure Act (5 U.S.C. §§ 551- outstanding marketable obligations of the except that the" and insert "each segment 706). United States with remaining periods to ma­ thereof. The". (b) The following elements shall be con­ turity comparable to the reimbursement -Page 27, energy consumption efficiency im­ incurred. To the extent that more than one SEc. 30lcogeneration; of the rates so determined.". Area Power Administration (hereinafter (5) rate design improvements, including: By Mr. UDALL: "Western"), shall contain an article requir­ (i) cost of service pricing; seasonal rates; and ties at Hoover Dam, and for other purposes. by Western of firm capacity, with or with­ (v) interruptible rates; and -Page 2, line 1. Delete through line 3. Sub­ out energy, which is to be delivered over a (6) production efficiency improvements. stitute "Section 1. This Act may be cited as period of more than one year. The term (c) Where a purchaser is implementing the Hoover Power Plant Act of 1984". "purchaser" includes parent-type entities one or more of the foregoing elements -Page 2, line 4. Delete "Title I" and all that and their distribution of user members. If under a program responding to federal, follows through to page 9, line 22. Renum· more than one such contract exists with a state or other initiatives that apply to con­ ber following sections and internal cross ref­ purchaser, only one program will be re­ servation and renewable energy develop­ erences therein accordingly. quired for that purchaser. Each such con­ ment, in evaluating that purchaser's energy -Page 14, line 25. Delete the comma and tract article shall: conservation program submitted pursuant the words "respectively, for the uprating ( 1) contain time schedules for meeting to this Title Western shall make due allow­ program and". program goals and delineate actions to be ance for the incorporation of such elements -Page 15, line 5. Delete "as of the begin­ taken in the event such schedules are not within the energy conservation program re­ ning" and all that follows through line 10, met, which may include a reduction of the quired by this Title.