The Bears Pit 2) It's a Cool Looking Firearm with a Kind of Unique Thumbhole Stock (83S Version)

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Subject: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:32:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Post your item requests for AIMNAS into this thread. Keep the requests sane... (no gazillion AR-15 or AK-47 variants for example... or IF you really want it, give me a VERY good reason to add it).

If I like a request, I might add the item sooner or later.

It would still be pretty useful, when you want an item in to make a small description and if possible maybe even with a reason why you think that specific item should be in AIMNAS. Added pics from which I can make the in-game pics don't hurt either... if I have to spent like 8 hours to browse for a pic I can convert, chances are, that the item probably will not make it in...

So... have fun suggesting items you want to be in AIMNAS.

And as always... keep trolling to a minimum and as you might know, I really dislike thread hi-jacking... now that I got my name written in green, I might actually make use of my new super hero powers.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by K0ukku on Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:47:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message My post from previous AIMNAS threads...

K0ukkuSquad Automatics... they are so cool. In some films you might have seen some bad guys and good guys use the rare Valmet M78 automatic rifle. Calibers at least in .308 (20 rnd mag), 7,62x39mm (42rnd mag).

I tried some time ago to find a good pic of it from the net, but didnt come up with any good one. Could you use this one smeagol? http://www.csarmy.ru/img/skins/cs_ak47/Valmet_M78_83s.308.jpg (or http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/siatene/100_0301.jpg)

Especially the M78/83 synthetic thumbhole stock version is quite cool.

As always, this is just a small and humble fan request! Thanks again for the best 1.13 mod available, smeagol.

So I'd like to see M78/83 with the thumbhole stock in 7,62x51mm. Why?

1) There isn't SO many Squad automatic rifles in the game.

Page 1 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 2) It's a cool looking firearm with a kind of unique thumbhole stock (83S version).

It's hard to find good pics of it because it is kinda rare, but here's some hopefully helpful pics: http://multiply.com/mu/avfiberclass/image/1:sakocc/photos/2/500x500/3/Valmet-M78.jpg?et=%2C ePXe7sEbfCFlsYnhuQmXw&nmid=178705617 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/1/1a/Valmet_M-78_83S.jpg

Cheers, Hookster

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:14:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yupp... guess I completely forgot about that one. :/

I remember that I tried to make a pic for that one once, but it looked pretty bad. Now with a wider selection of pics you provided I might give it another go.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dobb on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:39:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thanks Smeag for the thread!

As I was suggesting earlier, possible to include the following so that we can use the Mauser rounds more?

The Zastava M76 in the mod uses the 7.62mm at the moment, perhaps a kit to convert between the two? Seeing that originally the Zastava uses the Mauser rounds before adopting the 7.62mm

The ZB vz.26 uses the Mauser rounds too, it was the precursor of the BREN Gun.

Both the FG42 and the Gewehr 43 uses the Mauser rounds.

A conversion kit for the C96. The Schnellfeuer M.712, the .45 ACP version, the 9mm Bolo as well. And it will have the wooden buttstock for the pistol.

Page 2 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Mauser Pistol This website contains more information regarding the variants.

The Israelis acquired many M1 Carbines (.30 Car) in their stockpiles for the reserves units, but seeing as they're getting too old, they were converted into a more modern finish with bullpup configurations. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?115638-M1-carabine-a-bullpup-upgrade. Some photos in that link.

Lastly, the Phillipines also carry a huge reserves of M3 Grease Gun (.45ACP). The army had refurbish their models of the M3 for Maritime uses, if I recall. M3 Grease Gun This site gives the detail for it. Furthermore, with the addition of small picatinny rails, it will accept generic sights and attachments.

That's all I had at the moment. I'll do more research and find more pictures if you like, Smeag. I appreciate your dedication and hardwork here.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:55:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DobbThe Israelis acquired many M1 Carbines (.30 Car) in their stockpiles for the reserves units, but seeing as they're getting too old, they were converted into a more modern finish with bullpup configurations.

The Hezi Carbine is part of 1.13 for ages. No need to add it to AIMNAS, because it's already in.

About the others... yeah, well... I think about it. Best I can say at the moment...

I'm a bit torn on the FG42. I know it is quite popular with players for some reason... but it is really a rather obscure gun, as well. If I add it, don't expect it to show up somewhere in-game... don't think Arulco would be the right setting for that gun.

I like the C96, wanted to add it a long time ago, problem is, that it either uses obscure calibers or needs a new mag capacity (like the 9x19 uses 10 rnd mags iirc).

As for the Grease Gun... yupp definately has a good chance to get added. Also one of the candidates I made some pics for and didn't add the items in the end, because I disliked the pics... might give it another shot.

Page 3 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Mephi on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 10:46:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hi smeagol, thx for your mod!

Here are some ideas

G3A3 + chossen barell = G3 SG1 (keep in mind it

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by The_Bob on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 10:48:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about adding the integrally silenced guns I've been asking for ?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 11:06:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message maybe m3a1 ops is good for add in aimnas http://www.conjay.com/Ammunition%20for%20Armor%20Testing%20WW2%20Miscellaneous.ht m this page have data & images for many caliber,.303 british\7.5mm m29 france & for 7.92x57 mauser all are in your mod .. please take look ... im posting here link to page where is 7.5mm france ammo here you have link to m3a1 ops http://filairsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99333

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Mephi on Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:45:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I really like your "improved bolt action" for the Mauser rifles. May be it

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vasious on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 06:03:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 4 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit The CBRPS for the Mosin Nagant Turns it from an old bolt action to a Bull pup bolt action that can take modern (western) rail attackments http://www.cbrps.com/Products.html

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:57:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message this looking ugly like hell,please leave mosin in original status ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by usrbid on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:03:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vasioushttp://www.cbrps.com/Products.html

Wow, I am amazed, this shows you that any dude with a mill can make some crazy stuff. When you clean the gun, all this crap has to come off and be cleaned as well, I wonder how much weight this adds. Unfortunately they don't show how their furniture holds up after a few thousand rounds. Maybe you will have a bunch of rattling gear or parts afterward.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:03:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/ots48-e.html here you have bullpup-style mosin rifle

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:27:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yupp... and the OTs-48 is also already in AIMNAS.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Lepidosteus on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:12:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message VasiousThe CBRPS for the Mosin Nagant

Page 5 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Turns it from an old bolt action to a Bull pup bolt action that can take modern (western) rail attackments http://www.cbrps.com/Products.html

That's not guns! That's... Soulless monsters :openmouth:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:44:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://world.guns.ru/assault/ch/type-63-e.html mix your ak-47 witch your sks & you can get this one.. http://www.nazarian.no/wep.asp?id=361&group_id=5&country_id=88&lang=0

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vasious on Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:35:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00this looking ugly like hell,please leave mosin in original status ...

I wasnt suggesting it replace the moin, just one of those merge Kit

Didnt realise the other bull pup Mosin was in already

I like your signature, we all need a Webley for the good old days wolf000 caliber's: .41Lc,.45Lc,.455british,.380[9x17] .410 . not in game at this time ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by K0ukku on Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:17:12 GMT

Page 6 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AMT Hardballer Longslide. 7" barrel, .45 ACP and 7 rounds per mag.

Would be a nice addition to the "longer range" pistols in the .45 caliber. Familiar from the Hitman - game series and of course from the movie Terminator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMT_Hardballer

"You can't miss"

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:44:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The appearance in the first Terminator movie actually convinced me.

Might add it sooner or later. You might have to remember me, but this gun will make it in.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by powerhouse11 on Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:18:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message would it be possible if you could add a flashbang? the one that could give the "blind" effect when a unit got a headshot? nvm

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:53:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message jedzfwould it be possible if you could add a flashbang? the one that could give the "blind" effect when a unit got a headshot?

Page 7 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Uhm.... Flashbangs are in for ages... they were even originally in regular 1.13.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Boog on Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:59:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Is there a 40mm or VOG equivalent incendiary grenades with affects similar to AN-M14? How about mortar napalm shells? I'd love to go pyromaniac on redshirts!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by K0ukku on Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:07:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The napalm grenades? I haven't used them much since they are so expensive...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:01:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There are Napalm shells for all 4 western launchers (20mm, 25mm, 40mm, 40mm MS) as well as the 60mm mortar.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Boog on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:02:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm thinking about expanding 6.8 weapons line. How about an ACR in 6.8? Taking in account its popularity (MW2, MW3) I'm really surprised this gun is not present in the game at all (!). Since there's already lots of 5.56 weapons I think ACR would really be welcome as high tier selective fire 6.8 rifle.

What do you think?

Page 8 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:21:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Been proposed and rejected numerous times for being "another boring full rail assault rifle".

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Boog on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:33:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Probably, but looking at 6.8 arsenal - there's not much to choose! At least it's not "another boring AR-15 rifle". Anyway it's just my thoughts on adding something new to 6.8 line.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:59:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message You'll probably find something like that in UC 1.13. With all the raily goodness.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Wil473 on Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:40:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message To take the heat off AIMNAS, yes my mods do have the ACR in 6.8mm SPC. It includes a conversion kit to transform it from 5.56mm to 6.8mmSPC to 7.62x39mm and back to 5.56mm. Pick one of the following for badly drawn Bushmaster ACR goodness (I did it myself in MS Paint):

AFS - Vanilla Alrulco campaign DL-1.13 - Diedranna Lives! Alrulco campaign UC-1.13 - Urban Chaos campaign

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Boog on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:53:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Another interesting proposal is a russian A91-M rifle with an integrated GL, also recently seen in BF3. There're two variants in russian 7.62x39mm or 5.56x45mm NATO. Could be an interesting addition to high tier AICW and Australian AUG+GL gun.

Page 9 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:40:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message What's the difference to the Groza with UGL?

As for the ACR... what exactly is it, besides showing up in some other FPS that makes it so unique or outstanding to have it added (same goes btw for the SIG 556)?

I mean... those guns probably won't differ too much from guns already in-game... but if I get bored or got nothing better at hand, I might actually add them... dunno yet.

Unless I get some very good reasons, why they need to be in AIM asap, don't expect me to add them anytime soon... got enough workload already at hand.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Inkompetent on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:47:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The ACR is about the most optimized, well-performing assault rifle that exists in the world. It has been extensively detail-designed to consist of as few separate components as possible, be as reliable as possible, as easy-to-use as possible, and as intuitive as possible (for example every single sprint, button, and so on is specially designed to be easily found by only tactile feeling and not mistakenable for eachother), etc, etc. It's probably the most thought out assault rifle ever made, designed by experienced special forces operators. The ultimate refinement of the current generation of assault rifles.

Other than that however, it's not special in any way at all.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:06:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Good job at imitating a Remington marketeer Ink

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Inkompetent on Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:02:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hehehe. Well, it's true! It is a magnificent gun! Doesn't really have anything unique about it. Just a combination of the best from many other guns. Although I'm not sure about its arctic weather performance.

Page 10 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Anonymous on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:24:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Smeagol,

I have an idea for some "transformations".

[font:Arial Black]Combination gun[/font]

A combination gun is a break-action hunting firearm that comprises at least two barrels, a rifle barrel and a shotgun barrel, often but not always in an over and under configuration; side-by-side variations are known as cape guns. A drilling refers to a combination gun that has three barrels. Very often, combination guns use flanged calibers, as rimless cartridges may be problematic to eject from a break-action weapon.

[font:Arial Black]TP-82[/font]

Cartridge: 5.45

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:14:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Added:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by The_Bob on Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:38:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message this.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:48:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 11 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Ballin' hard or hardly ballin'? Oh man, a gunslinger's delight.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:36:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'd like to suggest the M9 Flamethrower.

The ingame flamethrower looks like a commercial model for agricultural use, and the low range, low ammo capacity, and the lack of LBE that can carry extra ammo makes it kind of worthless (especially since it doesn't have oxygen-sucking ability to suffocate entrenched enemies, or affect the morale of enemy troops like flamethrowers did in real combat).

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:28:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Flamethrowers are ridiculously short ranged, even tanks wouldn't get to more than 10~20 tiles. If you want range and storage, go for one of the various napalm grenades available for every western launcher.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by rtgress on Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:59:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

COLT CM901 read more : http://www.defensereview.com/dr-exclusive-scar-who-meet-the-colt-cm901-modular-multi-caliber- 7-62mm-nato5-56mm-nato-battle-carbinesbrrifle-for-u-s-military-special-operations-forces-sof-and -general-infantry-forces-gif/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_CM901

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Sun, 18 Dec 2011 06:48:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 12 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Okay, I just found out a tile is supposed to be 10m, so the flamethrower's range seems fine (maybe a bit over-generous, if anything), but would it be possible to add other effects to it, since it's a fairly cumbersome weapon that doesn't live up to it's real-world reputation?

I noticed the flashbang claims it has only limited effect outdoors. Does this mean the game can check whether units are inside or outside? Would it be possible to add a short-lived invisible area effect to the flamethrower which ignores walls and cover, and saps energy and eventually health from units which are indoors ; so that in practical terms, if an enemy was camped inside a building and determined to interrupt-fire on the only entrance, you could simply flamethrower the side of the building non-stop for 5-10 turns until he suffocates?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:25:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message dynastia I noticed the flashbang claims it has only limited effect outdoors. Does this mean the game can check whether units are inside or outside? Would it be possible to add a short-lived invisible area effect to the flamethrower which ignores walls and cover, and saps energy and eventually health from units which are indoors ; so that in practical terms, if an enemy was camped inside a building and determined to interrupt-fire on the only entrance, you could simply flamethrower the side of the building non-stop for 5-10 turns until he suffocates?

Without additional coding that's not possible.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by ko5ma on Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:36:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now that you're implementing HAM 5, here's an idea for using the new item switching feature - adjustable gas blocks.

Many weapons are equipped with a gas regulator, normally set for suppressed/unsuppressed or dirty/clean firing, which is not very interesting in terms of in-game usage, but some of those have gas systems that can be completely turned off. This changes the weapon into a straight pull bolt action rifle, and can be used to make it even more quiet when using a suppressor and subsonic ammo (no sound from action cycling). In game effect could be balanced to give a very quiet (sound range < 5, with ss ammo and suppressor of course) weapon, at the cost of having to manually chamber every round. It would also be an interesting way (imo) to add some extra differences between otherwise similar weapons.

Notable examples of these are the Noveske AR-15's (if equipped with the optional switchblock, which can also be retrofitted to any DI AR - but that's not possible in 1.13 atm), some FALs, chinese pistols with integral silencers, possibly SCAR?

Page 13 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit EDIT: And a suggestion - don't bother with making "collapsed stock" versions of weapons equipped with M4-style stocks. It's adjustable, yes, but this adjustment does not make it any less or more of a shooting aid. There are many shooters (myself included) who actually prefer using it fully collapsed or extended to the 1st notch, in a "nose to the charging handle" stance. It's no different in terms of recoil, cheekweld or whatnot to a fully extended stock, it's purely personal preference. It would make no sense to change weapon's stats based on this.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 20 Dec 2011 18:31:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The idea with the gas regulator in guns sounds interesting. Might actually add guns like that.

Already added collapsed versions of the retractable stock guns. Think it is okay though to have them only on one adjusted setting and one fully collapsed setting (the adjusted setting automatically is choosen for the shooter's optimal ergonomic profile, so to say...). The penalty for shooting a gun not adjusted to the optimal length is of course not as harsh as shooting a gun with a folded stock. But then again, those retractable stock guns also don't get the same high bonus on draw cost the folded guns get.

Basically guns with stocks fall into four major categories now: fixed stock (no bonus, no penalty) folding stock (high bonus on ready cost when folded, huge penalty to hit) telescopic stock (medium bonus on ready cost when collapsed, medium penalty to hit) retractable stock (low bonus, low penalty) in addition to those, there are some special transformations (like SCAR rifles that actually have 3 modes -> folded, collapsed and regular) or guns that fold only for transport and can't be fired at all in folded mode (like the MAT-49 SMG, but it folds down to a very compact package, thus might actually be a useful backup gun if you need an SMG as a secondary weapon when you run out of ammo on your main gun... dunno... probably still a poor choice, but at least now you have the option to carry that thing around in folded position... same goes for the AR-7 survival rifle... folds down to a tight package that fits a medium pocket).

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by ko5ma on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:47:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message One more idea for utilizing HAM5 item switching feature (it may have been proposed somewhere before, if so - sorry) - multi-caliber weapons. In practice, it could be used for revolvers (any .357 can also fire .38, stat changes could include decreased damage and increased reliability), rifles (maybe add .223 for civilian 5.56mm rifles? Any .223 rifle could fire 5.56 rounds at decreased

Page 14 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit accuracy and reliability, while using .223 rounds in 5.56 rifles would result in decreased damage and accuracy) etc.

Re stocks - my point is, an AR15-type stock, when fully collapsed, is normally used by some people, while others use it fully extended. It offers the same relative comfort in both cases, there should be no difference in accuracy or speed. Same with SCAR, it would be more logical to only offer 2 types (folded and opened), as the difference between collapsed and extended is less than 10cm. In any case, no big deal, just pointing it out.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Okim on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:49:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Some non-grenade launcher underbarrels like masterkey shotgun and dartgun.

Speaking of dartgun - a longer barreled version (in rifles category) would also be a good idea.

RG6 for russian VOGs http://world.guns.ru/grenade/rus/rg-6-e.html

AEK-999 Barsuk http://world.guns.ru/machine/rus/a-single-gun-aek-999-quotbadgerquot-e.html

Izraeli Negev MG http://world.guns.ru/machine/isr/negev-e.html

I haven`t seen all the items of AIMNAS yet, so i`m sorry if those are already present.

P.S.: also a better range of Chinese Q-guns is what i really would like to see the most. IIRC you don`t like them for some reason, why?

P.S.S.: i want to replace SCAR images with black ones - what is the easiest way to do so?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:09:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Masterkey... hooray... hadn't had that request this month yet. It's a request done at least once every two weeks. I'd like to see it in as well... but so far, not possible due to code limitations.

Dart Rifle -> already in (check out MD's starting gear kits)

I might add in Dart Rifles with a 5 rnd mag capacity at some point though.

RG6 -> that's the 6 round VOG launcher, similiar to the Milkor? already in

AEK-999 -> not yet in... dunno if I'll add it anytime soon, but at least worth a consideration

Page 15 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Negev -> already in

Chinese Q guns -> only have the one that also is in 1.13. Never said I disliked them, but I'm not a big fan either.

On the stock issue: yeah, I can imagine, that the retractable stocks wouldn't make such a big difference in real life. Especially smaller persons would probably only use the fully retracted position etc... But I think in terms of game consistency it is more or less a must have to have the retractable stocks actually be... you know... retractable.

Otherwise it would make no sense what so ever to actually have different versions of certain guns that have either a fixed stock or a retractable stock. Also it simply is a nice little gimmick. Don't think that the folding/unfolding of guns will happen too often in game anyways. Folded guns will probably only be carried around as backup guns or maybe used for suppression fire (due to lower draw cost and a slight bonus to firing as well. No worries, thanks to the massive to hit penalty the lowere cost to fire basically only allows more unaimed shots that rarely hit anything anyways...).

Besides... I'm almost done with the pics for the two versions of retractable guns anyways... Would be a pitty to put all the work I spent into it already in the bin.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Okim on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:18:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Finally my Fidel will get what suits him well - a negev and a rg-6 combo! Thanks for that.

Also Malice and doc Q. are both a bit disappointed on low chinese/east asian choice of guns...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:40:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagolMasterkey... hooray... hadn't had that request this month yet. It's a request done at least once every two weeks. I'd like to see it in as well... but so far, not possible due to code limitations.

With HAM 5's transformation thingie you could perhaps implement a workaround: Pressing the "change button" on a attached masterkey transforms the weapon it is attached to the same looking gun, that shoots the masterkey's ammo?

However, transforming back to normal might be difficult/impossible?

Dunno, i am just thinking aloud ...

Page 16 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by JMich on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:49:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sam_HotteWith HAM 5's transformation thingie you could perhaps implement a workaround: Pressing the "change button" on a attached masterkey transforms the weapon it is attached to the same looking gun, that shoots the masterkey's ammo?

However, transforming back to normal might be difficult/impossible?

Dunno, i am just thinking aloud ... Work is being done on masterkey, but atm life's a bit hectic. Hopefully I'll have a test version available early next year.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:25:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Err, it's almost Xmas - life should be quiet and contemplative now ...

Just kidding - take your time for a good work. Looking forward to it!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:07:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Sam_HotteWith HAM 5's transformation thingie you could perhaps implement a workaround: Pressing the "change button" on a attached masterkey transforms the weapon it is attached to the same looking gun, that shoots the masterkey's ammo?

However, transforming back to normal might be difficult/impossible?

Dunno, i am just thinking aloud ... Also, this way has the unfortunate side effect that you have to reload your weapon each time you change from 'host' to 'underbarrel' and back ... which negates any AP savings you might otherwise get out of a combined weapon.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 02:30:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Have you considered the PAM-1 or PAM-2? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Grease_Gun#Foreign_variants

Page 17 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit They're M3 Grease Gun knockoffs in 9x19mm. I realise there's plenty of lower-quality 9x19 SMGs already, but the PAMs are made in Argentina and in use by several South/Central American militaries, so they feel like they sort of belong in Arulco.

Also, along the lines of guns suited to the nationalities of specific mercs, I was having a look through wikipedia to see which guns my mercs would be most comfortable with based on their backgrounds, and most of them are well-served by the existing arsenal, but Barry Unger might appreciate an AK-63 variant ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-63 ), while Blood would probably prefer an R4 over the IMI Galil I've given him. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R4_assault_rifle ) Aside from the lack of Chinese weapons for Dr. Q, I don't think there are any other mercs that can't get their hands on the standard issue rifles of their nation's military. I know that it's low-priority to be adding even more clones of existing weapons, but I thought it might be nice if all the available mercs could carry a little piece of home with them, if they wanted to.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:05:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Note that the term mercenary usually explicitly says that a mercenary does not fight for a nation. Ties to the home country are usually pretty loose. Mercs are interested in money, they choose what they think is good equipment (from what they have known from previous missions to have paid off so to say or they choose what they are used to from their background).

Thus some mercs, especially those that don't have extensive military background (like Blood, Barry and possibly Q) wouldn't care too much if a gun was made in their home country or not. Dunno... for some mercs it is quite fitting, but I think it is not a "must have".

Nationality is of course a good help for orientation. Adding guns, however, based on the mercs national background alone is a bit iffy. Especially since I already have a long list of stuff I need to add.

Doesn't mean I won't add the R4 at all (though after reading the description again, I guess it's simply a 1:1 copy of a Galil... so... probably no), but yet another AK variant is probably out...

As for the Grease guns... yeah, I wanted to add the grease gun now for quite some time, have tried to make decent looking pics of it a few times, but the pics always looked pretty bad. I might give it another go at some point.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:25:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Okim on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:17:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Another work around to masterkey issues would be to make a special underbarrel grenade launcher type with a range of 1-2 and with its own ammo that deals damage only to locks. I dunno know how damage is coded in JA1.13 though

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:46:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagol, I wasn't really thinking along patriotic lines but just familiarity. I don't know exactly how this manufactured-by-license works but if an R4 is identical to a Galil except for the factory it came from, I suppose Blood would be just as happy with either.

I hope if you add Grease Guns it'll be the PAM variants, just for the South American flavour.

Is it likely you'll be adding any more calibers, such as .32 or 20ga? edit ; just noticed there's no Mauser C96 on the main thread's list. How sad! Perhaps a Chinese knockoff like the Shansei would be appropriate?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by mr_clark on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:02:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Though I don't know if it has any chance with you, smeagol, but I'd love to see this weapon in the game... I am just fascinated with the looks, and there are not many 7.62WP Bullpups around.

Maybe as an 'extra' in Sci-Fi mode? regards, Clark

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Anonymous on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:05:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 19 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit It really depends on many factors. Mercenary lines, friendships, enemies, likes, dislikes, profiles, stats, et cetera.

The Russians should all carry Russian equipment and weapons. I don't have a problem with Dr. Q carrying Russian guns, but it would be much nicer if he carried some Chinese weapons.

Also, I really think there should be more roleplaying items. Like a AA and NA book for Larry to carry around.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:13:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Licensed production = same sh*t, new name. Your link mentions slight modifications but nothing really critical.

And as smeagol explained, if they don't have an extensive military background, there isn't much familiarity with their nations standard issue rifle either ... or they just never got the hang of it. So it comes down to what's available, what's affordable and what's the mercs preference.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by rtgress on Fri, 23 Dec 2011 11:40:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i have a small idea, the portable .50 cal machine gun features : requires high physical abil it requires fixed position like mortar penetrate walls obviously. gun list is founded here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG hope this interest.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:59:06 GMT

Page 20 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There seems to be a lack of Russian/WP vests that don't use box mags. It's not a big deal but it'd be kinda cool if your Bizon or RPK user didn't have to wear a western vest that's explicitly made for FN P90's. It'd be nice to have Russian vests for shotgun shells, belt-fed boxes, large mags, short box mags and drum mags (especially since 7.62WP adapters are irremovable), but at the very least a Russian vest with extra utility space instead of AR mags would be nice (and ammo could go on leg rigs).

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:13:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote:(especially since 7.62WP adapters are irremovable)They're not. Unless you have an older version with some error in it or a sticky adapter ('A.M. -' instead of 'A. -')

More LBE is always a nice addition though, but given the sheer mass already there, you should provide pics and/or specific pocket configurations.

EDIT: The 6Sh92 would fit your need of a vest with RPK size pockets. EDIT 2: I'd actually like to see that vest myself as I find the pistol holster on the P90 Tac Vest (the only vest which currently has large magazine pockets) all but useless if you're actually using it with a P90.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by MG42 on Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:15:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Bobby Ray's blurb for the 7.62WP mag adapter says 'permanent installing required', I guess that needs to be changed.

Seconding the request for more large mag vest. And more non-American belt ammo vests would be cool too, the SAW vest has been my go-to so often because of the versatility of those slots. There really are so many, though. My game is getting to the point where JA's interface and item management really show their age when dealing with everything you've added. AIMNAS is just that awesome.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:42:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message dynastiaThere seems to be a lack of Russian/WP vests that don't use box mags. It's not a big deal but it'd be kinda cool if your Bizon or RPK user didn't have to wear a western vest that's explicitly made for FN P90's. It'd be nice to have Russian vests for shotgun shells, belt-fed boxes, large

Page 21 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit mags, short box mags and drum mags (especially since 7.62WP adapters are irremovable), but at the very least a Russian vest with extra utility space instead of AR mags would be nice (and ammo could go on leg rigs).

Agreed. Will add some Russian large mag vests as soon as I got the time to do so.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Matches Malone on Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:25:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Smith and Wesson M&P R8 - An eight-shot .357 magnum revolver with rails for sights, flashlights, etc.

Glock 17L and/or Glock 24. The longslide Glocks in 9mm and .40. They would be more accurate than the 17/22.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by mr_clark on Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:31:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message MatchesSmith and Wesson M&P R8 - An eight-shot .357 magnum revolver with rails for sights, flashlights, etc.

Glock 17L and/or Glock 24. The longslide Glocks in 9mm and .40. They would be more accurate than the 17/22.

Especially the Glock 24 could be interesting, also with longer range. Though all twentysomething Glocks from 17 to 36 would be fun as well Looking into it I think the Glock 36 as a small frame .45 would be really interesting, though I guess adding new 6 round .45 magazines is out of the question...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Kindred on Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:01:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Smeagol, are you going to add transformations to the Benelli M3 to convert it between semi-auto and pump action?

Page 22 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:07:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message KindredSmeagol, are you going to add transformations to the Benelli M3 to convert it between semi-auto and pump action?

Done.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Kindred on Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:39:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nice! Does the pump action version get a bonus to reliability to simulate its use with specialist ammunition?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 09 Jan 2012 10:08:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Of course it gets a reliability bonus in pump action mode... it also gets the easy unjam tag in pump action mode.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Kindred on Tue, 10 Jan 2012 02:47:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Excellent. I might start using the exotic ammo in it next time.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by mr_clark on Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:28:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Any chance for the AK-12? Of course in all four Versions.

See at WorldGuns

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Marcho on Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:50:59 GMT

Page 23 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I demand more Winchester guns. There is only ONE Winchester rifle in the game. And it's the model 94'trapper. Here is a list of Winchester guns I want to see in-game: - Winchester 1300 Defender (AKA. 'Speed pump' -shotgun) ( With pistol grip and without) Reason: This is one of my personal favorites in Winchester's shotgun family. What makes this shotgun great? The fast-cycling pump action, which makes this weapon to be fired empty under 5 seconds. That's why this weapon is popular among hunters, sport shooters and most of U.S police departments. (Inc. LAPD and NYPD.) That's not however the only trait that this shotgun carries. It's also easy to be modded, lightweight (About 3kg), deadly and very reliable. - Winchester Model Super X-2 This is the SX2 (Greenhead version) Reason: Very popular among hunters, who seeks accuracy, deadliness and reliability. There is a newer model of the SX-2, which is The Super X-3. But, there is not much of a difference between X-2 and X-3. The Second is always the best right? This weapon is also used by sport shooters. Everything is piece of cake to kill when used in hands of a mercenary, capable of killing a Grizzly bear from 60 meters. - Mare's Leg/Laig ( http://maresleg.com/maresleg.htm ) It might not be a Winchester. But, it's based on it. However, this is the "Official" and proud company that owns the rights for to make and sell commercially these PISTOLS*. Or you could use HAM 5's Transformation feature to "SAW-OFF" an Mare's leg from Winchester or other lever-action rifles. *Used to be rifles, but U.S determines them as Pistols for their short barrel length. Reason: Relic from The good old Wild West renewed by today's most talented gun manufacturers. Mare's Leg/Laig converts your lever-action rifle to a deadly firearm, which fits right on a custom made holster. The Mare's leg/laig should be contained in Jagged Alliance 1.13/AIMNAS. Size doesn't matter anymore, since this gun delivers death and pain to whatever the gun barrel faces.

- Winchester 1887 (+ Make a reference to the Terminator 2, because this is the Winchester from the movie that Schwarzenegger uses. Reference would be something like: "Hasta la vista, baby." ) Reason: From The Golden Wild West too, this weapon was the first successful repeating lever-action shotgun. It might be old, but it doesn't make this weapon less deadlier than any other gun. This weapon is popular from the movie: Terminator 2: Judgment Day (As I told before) and from the game: Call of Duty: Black Ops.

- Winchester Model 70 Reason: One of the most accurate bolt-action rifles that Winchester ever made. The Model 70 has been modified and been made better through over 80 years. Serving in hands of both Soldier, Hunter and a Sport shooter. This weapon however was replaced in U.S Army by Remington 700 during The Vietnam War. Still, this sniper rifle makes a good remark in Winchester history. ****************************************************************************************************** Other requests: -FX-05 Xiuhcoatl Reason: This assault rifle is used by Mexican Army. Mix this and tequila and you make yourself a deadly Mexican Elite soldier. This assault rifle also have different variants to be configured and optimized. Including: Assault Rifle, Carbine, Light Machine gun and a Sharpshooter variant. This weapon can be chambered for the 5.56x45mm NATO or the 6.8x43mm SPC round. See Wikipedia -Khaybar KH2002

Page 24 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Reason: Iranian made bullpup rifle similar to FAMAS. But, this gun however is very accurate, lightweight ( Under 4 kilograms = 3,5 -, 7?), reliable and doesn't give recoil much while shooting. Khaybar is also a name of an Oasis which was conquered by Muhammad in 629 AD. -Helmet Light attachments for helmets (See THIS for more info. ) Tan version: !! NOTE: THIS IS THE HL1-A MODEL !! Reason: There have been no Helmet light attachments before in this game, which I think there should be. During night operations and inside dark buildings this would be very useful. Giving both player and enemy to light their way to battle.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:53:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message MarchoI demand more Winchester guns. unfortunately smeag doesn't go quite well with demands

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:58:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ... or undetailed lists with no reasons for including item x

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Marcho on Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:46:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I edited my post go give an reason, why should he include them.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:22:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thank you. However, I fear I must disappoint you about those helmet lights. The game can't handle actual lights and the usual hack with nightvision boni (see tac light) doesn't work on the helmet for the same reason that attached NVGs don't give any bonus.

Page 25 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Marcho on Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:42:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I understand. The game engine was never meant to handle things such as this. You didn't disappoint me, I only see it could be possible if the game wasn't that limited. Thanks for the answer.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:15:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message IIRC the addition of some ARs from different countries (Korea, Mexico, ..) has been discussed already. Result AFAIR: Smeag was not interested to add even more ARs that are all too similar to existing ones.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Marcho on Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:02:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Makes sense. Also, this would be a nice addition to JA2 1.13/AIMNAS weapon arsenal. Let me introduce you... Sako TRG M10

The newest multi caliber sniper rifle from my country's famous gun manufacture Sako. This long range 'Modular Configurable Multi Caliber' -sniper rifle is going to make a significant remark in history of sniping. Read THIS this .php file about configuration charts and about the sniper rifle itself.

"TRG M10: In October 2011 Sako unveiled the Sako TRG M10 Sniper Weapon System. The TRG M10 was designed as an user configurable multi caliber modular system and does not share its receiver and other technical features with the Sako TRG line. By changing bolts, magazines, fore ends and barrels in the field, the TRG M10 system can be switched between .308 Winchester, .300 Winchester Magnum and .338 Lapua Magnum chamberings and adapted to various requirements. At the introduction, the TRG M10 is marketed for "military and law enforcement only." ***************************************************************************************************** ALSO I would like to see a .357 Magnum version of .44 Magnum Winchester 94 Trapper.

Page 26 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:27:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Marcho ALSO I would like to see a .357 Magnum version of .44 Magnum Winchester 94 Trapper.

Check out the Puma .357 and the Puma .454...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by K0ukku on Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:14:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thumbs up for Winchester 1300 Defender.

C'mon, who does not want to be Mr. Nukem sometimes? Blow it out your ass, Deidranna * BLAM *

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:15:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Not sure if this is the right place for this:

A.T.A.:

Arulco Transport Agency

Ask "Jos

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:04:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 1) Old idea 2) definitely the wrong place

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:01:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:45:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hey smeagol...

Ever considered adding in a Howdah Pistol?

They were developed by the British in India as a last-resort weapon when tiger hunting. They're now collectables, but considering the Bloodcat population in Arulco it's not too farfetched that Arulcan civilians might have some of these weapons as family heirlooms. They come in various (massive) calibers and can be anywhere from one to four barrels, but were usually double-barreled pistols in .450 nitro.

It'd make the ultimate backup for people who think the UDAR and RSR Alaskan aren't devastating enough.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:16:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message dynastiaHey smeagol...

Ever considered adding in a Howdah Pistol?

It'd make the ultimate backup for people who think the UDAR and RSR Alaskan aren't devastating enough. i'm all for it - can you get a left-sided ja2-style pic?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests

Page 28 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by dynastia on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:42:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Could you flip this?

Double-barrel, .68 caliber. The model and manufacturer is unknown, though. Should I try to find one that's been clearly identified and uses an existing round? There might be some howdah's in .470 nitro but I think they were mostly done in older rounds like .450's.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:57:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message it's smeag, don't bring him a new calibre! i think it could be flipped as it's kinda symetric but that is smeag's decisition (he does his pics). someone like col. biggins should definately bring somethinf like that.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dobb on Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:02:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Was frag rounds for the shotgun implemented yet?

This might sound odd or even difficult to put in, what about the Universal Attachment? It's basically this foregrip/Glock pistols that acts as both a grip and secondary weapon. Might be a silly and interesting alternatives to Masterkeys.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Victor Tadeu on Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:23:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Suggestions! Suggestions! I have many, I've implemented some of them by myself!

I think you could add more EXOTIC or very unique weapons. Also, more revolvers and specific use weapons. I wont put all suggestions at once, let's try a feel ones first... hehe!

In exotic, could you add more Metal Storm weapons? They also hav a shotgun, a grenade launcher and a pistol, every one of then with the no recoil metal storm system. They exist in other mods (I dont remember which one), but I hav their pics, so you dont need to make new ones. (If you dont care using someone else work. I think this pics are from the mod with tons of guns, but I cant remember the name!)

Page 29 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit The Metal Storm VLE, AKA Metal Storm Pistol:

The Metal Storm MAUL, AKA Metal Storm Shotgun:

The Metal Storm 3GL, AKA Metal Storm Grenade Launcher:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:06:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The GL is already in the game.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:29:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagolKindredSmeagol, are you going to add transformations to the Benelli M3 to convert it between semi-auto and pump action?

Done.

Sorry, if it was mentioned before but should'nt the SPAS-12 have the same behaviour? And should'nt it be possible to combine the EBR-Kit with the Ruger AC-762?

I would like to suggest to implement the H&K G3 as it is used in Afghanistan as the G3 DMR, which includes a Scope, Picatinny-Rails at the front and a laser+light module. Singlefire-only.

G3 + improvised conversion kit = G3 SG1 (which was the military "sniper" version of the G3 (means, the best G3s were sorted out and got a Scope and a Bipod) without lasers, lights or more advanced scopes. Polymer stock fixed only.

G3SG1 + EBR = G3 DMR able to have the usual scopes, lasers and light, bipod

Page 30 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Victor Tadeu on Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:59:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Smeagol, I wanted to ask: you did this mod all alone?

Isn't easier for you to accept a proposed new weapon if I come here and say "here are in-game pictures, here are the description of the gun to Bobby Ray, here are why I think it should be added, and here are my suggestion for the stats"? Many of the guns I wanted in AIMNAS I already added by my self or I'm able to.

Example:

Could you add Lapa FA 03?

Background: FA 03 was a very light brazilian 5.56x45 bullpup rifle designed in the end 70s and early 80s by Nelmo Suzano, maybe one of the most brilliant gunmakers of the world at this time, but very few units were produced (around 500). It was the third bullpup assault rifle ready for service in world, but despite being advanced for the period, Brazilian Armed Forces refused it saying that it looked like a toy for it many plastic parts and light weight. Brazilian Armed Forces were very familiar with the local copies of the heavy FN FAL and do not request a new standard assault rifle (they were terribly allergic to 5.56 until very recently, also). When LAPA tried to sell the gun outside Brazil, the market for this kind of weapon already had been taken by AUG.

It had only 5 mobile parts and that everything was encased in a polymer plastic shell to make it basically "airtight" against any possible exterior "aggressive" (mud, dust, rust, etc). Very, very, very reliability and only weighed around 3kg. It was also able to 3-round burst, something completely new and unusual at the time, and performed very well in shooting test, proving to be very accurate. It was surely one of the most advanced AR of its time. After all, it still being used in small amounts by some Brazil Special Forces and is strictly maintained in working order.

Note: In fact, this weapon was never adopted because Brazil's corrupt dictatorship in the period where their weapons were made by 100% state-owned companies and they dont hav any interest in making this kind of business with the private sector. When the democracy comes back in 1984, the military left, but corruption continued, and Brazil lost virtually all of its defense industry and investments. We even had an MBT (Main Battle Tank) ready to be produced, but when the democracy comes the state-owned company responsible for this lost it capital and bankrupt. The U.S. even destroyed many old EE9-Cascavel in Iraq in both Gulf Wars, an light armored vehicle produced by the same company. Hahaha!

Pics (made by myself):

Upgraded/Tactical version:

Page 31 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Bobby Ray's: (LAPA FA 03 can only be bought used) "Doesn't matter what Brazilian military forces said about this one! They may think it look like a toy, but it surely shot like a real weapon! Take down some favelas!" (The Tactical version is not for sale - You must merge FA 03 with RAS)

Description: (LAPA FA 03) "Developed in Brazil in late 70s, this weapon was never widely produse but still sees some good action in the hands of brazilian special forces." (FA 03 Tactical) "An updated version of the old LAPA FA 03, fitted with some rails to more attachments."

Attributes: Blah, blah, blah... (Up to you I guess or if you want I can suggest.)

I'm brazilian, so I made some brazilian guns. Some of then are really interesting, like ENARM Pentagun, a semi-automatic revolver action shotgun, others like FA 03 may not interest you but I already add then to my own game, so if the work is almost done, I'm suggesting!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Damienov on Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:14:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Something a little bit different

The Slide Fire

What it does: Basicaly a "Cheap solution" ($375) stock kit that can change a single fire rifle to a full auto

How it works? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTSNscULt28[/video] (installation, how to use and shooting demo)

Implementation in game? - Replace a trigger mod but invalidates stock installation (I hope this is possible) - Gives a bonus full auto on rifle that is only capable firing single and burst mode - Minus stats on stablity

More info: http://www.slidefire.com/

Page 32 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:27:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message So, it's one of those mall ninja fake automatic modes? And only for the AR-15? I don't think we even have a semi automatic, non-DMR AR-15 platform currently in the mod. Also: DamienovImplementation in game? - Replace a trigger mod but invalidates stock installation (I hope this is possible) - Gives a bonus full auto on rifle that is only capable firing single and burst mode - Minus stats on stablityDoesn't work, have to merge it to get a new (AF-capable) item as you can't add full auto mode via attachments.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Damienov on Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:56:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote:Doesn't work, have to merge it to get a new (AF-capable) item as you can't add full auto mode via attachments.

I do recall on old AIMNAS Mod that it is possible to modify a rifle to add an full auto fire mode trough Trigger group attachment

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:51:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nope. trigger groups merely add burst mode. The improvised conversion kit is a merge.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:52:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I thought the blunt weapons range could use a few specialised items ; especially some that don't seem to be more for police, security guards and thuggish brawlers, but for actual mercs.

Apologies if any of these are already in but the coolness rating is too high for me to have seen them yet.

Lead Knuckles

Lead knuckles look nothing like the iconic brass (ceramic) knuckles. Instead, they're basically

Page 33 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit heavy leather "motorcycle-style" gloves with a pouch full of powdered lead sewn over the knuckles. They add knockout power to punches while distributing the force evenly and reducing the risk of eggshell fractures and bone fragments punched into the brain. They are quite possibly the best possible low-tech weapon if you want to knock somebody out without killing them (although death is still certainly a possibility if the brain is bounced hard enough against the opposite side of the skull). Popular with bouncers and security guards, for obvious reasons. In game terms, this would mean extra breath damage, lessened health damage, and an overall reduction of damage when targeting anything but the head. Since the damage it causes relies on bouncing the brain inside the skull, no amount of protective headgear can protect against it. Perfect for a pacifist character.

Lead Sap

Depicted as a 'knockout tool' in countless spy and gangster movies, saps are far better suited for killing than knocking people out. The massive force generated into such a small point of contact practically guarantees an eggshell fracture, with a high likelihood of bone fragments being punched into the brain on a solid hit. In game terms, this means they'd require only a small pocket to carry, a small amount of AP to use, and do higher damage with reduced breath damage. Helmets should pose limited protection. Massive damage when the head is targeted, reasonable damage against the torso and legs. If possible, strength shouldn't make much of a difference in damage, due to the added power generated by the weapon's flexibility. Best suited for skilled melee mercs who can take the headshot without needing to soften up the target with a few stabs to the torso and legs.

Trench Mace

Some technologies never really go obsolete. With a short handle and small heavy head, one of the first weapons to ever be invented remains the be-all and end-all of blunt force administration, and was heavily favoured over knives and bayonets when it came to trench warfare. A hit anywhere means broken bones and ruptured organs. A hit to the head can be guaranteed to turn a skull into a pouch of skin full of shattered bones and liquified brains. No close-combat killing is ever so quick and silent as a completely imploded head, except perhaps a slit carotid ; even a bowie knife through the heart can leave a man alive for a good minute or so. In game terms, the short handle means it could be stored in large utility pockets, and while it takes longer to swing than most knives it will deliver unparalleled damage. Helmets would provide very scant protection, while body and leg armour would provide literally none at all.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:48:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message As much as I like those items, they probably won't make the cut due to limitations in the game engine.

Thought about adding trench maces and axes and such quite soem time ago. Due to lack of proper animations (and coding) not going to happen.

Page 34 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by usrbid on Sun, 05 Feb 2012 05:04:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Why does the lead sap show strong wear marks at the tip?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dobb on Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:42:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This is gimmicky at best but there's a tool called the Pederson Device that allows bolt action rifles to fire fully automatic, only useful for the Springfield rifle.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:17:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AFAIK Smeagol loves that kinda stuff.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:54:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dobb This is gimmicky at best but there's a tool called the Pederson Device that allows bolt action rifles to fire fully automatic, only useful for the Springfield rifle.

Interesting, but waaaaaay too specific. Also would require an entirely new calibre. Seems that it would transform a .30-06 1903 Springfield into a semi-auto rifle that would use .30-18 Auto.

Also those devices are supposed to be super rare colelctors items nowadays (according to wiki one sold on an auction reached a price of 55k $). Dunno... don't think it will make the cut.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:12:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message If you like conversions to full-auto, maybe consider the SLR "Bitch".

They were sawed-off SLR's (Australian L1A1's) converted to full auto by stuffing a matchstick someplace. I don't think there's any official designation for it because they were unauthorised

Page 35 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit field-modifications. Australians in Vietnam liked to close with the enemy, rout them, and then hunt them down, so the short barrels and heavy bullets worked great for jungle CQB, and they were as loud as .50cal machineguns (to panic the VC into routing). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_SLR#Australia (6th paragraph)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Kindred on Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:00:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message IIRC, the cut-down L1A1 was nicknamed "The Bitch" by the SASR.

It might be nice to have a unique shortened FAL for Trevor in his most expensive kit option for a little more Aussie flavour.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:48:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Oh, one small thing.

Any chance of getting a Beta-C or drum adapter for 6.8SPC, or do they not exist?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:19:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._24 please it is a posible add this one ?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:28:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Looks to be pretty much similiar to the 98K, no?

Page 36 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:41:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Weight 4.2 kg (9.3 lb) Length 1,100 mm (43 in) Barrel length 590 mm (23 in) vz 24

Weight 3.7 kg (8.2 lb) - 4.1 kg (9.0 lb) Length 1,110 mm (43.70 in) Barrel length 600 mm (23.62 in) mauser 98k yes looks similar ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:33:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I would like to suggest adding 6.5mm Grendel weaponry, though admittedly it is mostly more AR15-M16 variants. There are some semi-custom bolt actions built around the cartridge, but being mostly made-to-order items it's hard to pin down their exact properties. Still, we have .50 Beowulf, why not complete the Bill Alexander set? For those who don't know, 6.5mm Grendel is intermediate in power between 5.56mm and 7.62x51mm NATO and is probably the longest-range cartridge you can get through an AR15-M16 pattern weapon and still feed from magazines. Magazines are 10 or 26 rounds. Rifles are made for it from short barrel CQB pieces up to 20" or more precision sniper rifles (http://store.alexanderarms.com/img-201-820.jpg).

Another idea I had, though I'm not sure if it's possible, is ballistic armored face masks which would attach to helmets. They would apply armor/coverage bonuses to helmets much like the kneepads do for trousers. There are three basic forms available, and my own estimation puts them in the following increasing order of quality:

1) Ballistic soft-armor panels shaped to fit on the face, with eye holes and breath deflector. User receives to-hit penalties and some tunnel vision.

2) Transparent armored visors, of the sort often seen on riot police and SWAT personnel. Would still inflict to-hit penalty from visual distortion but would not tunnel-vision you.

3) New-generation hard-armored masks with built-in goggles and concave sides so they don't interfere with your cheek weld, such as http://downtowntactical.com/store/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=926

Admittedly, the SWAT visor should probably preclude night vision, and the others should probably block gas masks, but if my understanding of the equipment system is correct you can't block a face item from the helmet slot, right?

In the same vein, maybe a class of boot items could be made that would attach to trousers, which could modify your stealth or add more armor coverage to your legs. Really good boots could

Page 37 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit perhaps increase your available AP due to helping your footwork, maybe.

I've never tried creating anything for JA2 so forgive me if this is implausibly hard.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by buuface on Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:22:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Is the FG42 in yet ?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:03:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vince7403I would like to suggest adding 6.5mm Grendel weaponry, though admittedly it is mostly more AR15-M16 variants. There are some semi-custom bolt actions built around the cartridge, but being mostly made-to-order items it's hard to pin down their exact properties. Still, we have .50 Beowulf, why not complete the Bill Alexander set? For those who don't know, 6.5mm Grendel is intermediate in power between 5.56mm and 7.62x51mm NATO and is probably the longest-range cartridge you can get through an AR15-M16 pattern weapon and still feed from magazines. Magazines are 10 or 26 rounds. Rifles are made for it from short barrel CQB pieces up to 20" or more precision sniper rifles.

Grendel is a topic that comes up from time to time and to be honest... I never actually spent too much tjought on it. I don't know whether I want it in or not. Adding a new caliber always requires a ton of items (ammo crates (AP and HP morst likely... if more ammo types are available, even more work), ammo boxes with new pics, mags with new pics, ammo donkey for ammo sorting in BR for each gun type, and of course the guns themself... the higher the qualitiy on pics the more work it is. Good pics can take between 15 mins to 4 hours. It all depends on how good the pics can be size reduced and how big quality loss is.

So... my basic attitude towards adding new calibers atm is "not gonna happen anytime soon".

Quote: Another idea I had, though I'm not sure if it's possible, is ballistic armored face masks which would attach to helmets. They would apply armor/coverage bonuses to helmets much like the kneepads do for trousers.

Face armour is in DBB mod (IoV). I do like the basic concept, but I don't like the problems they cause with other face gear. Another option is, to actually make them face gear and use the facial slot (with incompatible face gear and such). Then again... this could cause all kinds of weirdness (armour value not defined at all for face gear slot; armour value defined, but not for helmet,; etc...).

So also probably a "not gonna happen anytime soon" kinda thing.

Page 38 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Quote:In the same vein, maybe a class of boot items could be made that would attach to trousers, which could modify your stealth or add more armor coverage to your legs. Really good boots could perhaps increase your available AP due to helping your footwork, maybe.

The +5 boots of Stalking are also not going to happen, sorry. There is a.) already enough micromangement (which is an argument against adding gloves, boots, underwear, etc...) and b.) I'm not going to make JA2 into Diablo 2 (there might be some newer RPGs, but I'm old...).

Quote:Is the FG42 in yet ?

Nope.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:01:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just want to show:

NTW 20 x 110

Manufacturers Link

Farquhar-Hill rifle an idea for .303 british

Farquhar-Hill on worldguns.run

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:16:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Did you say boots of stalking? That's it, I'm going to build my own mod, STALKER Alliance, with vodka and artifacts.

Page 39 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I actually built a Grendel rifle from parts last year, hence my enthusiasm for it.

The only other thing I could think of right now is the Ruger-Gunsite Scout, which is an interesting weapon but it would wind up having stats very similar to the Steyr Scout that we already have.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Anonymous on Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:53:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A S.T.A.L.K.E.R. modification for Jagged Alliance 2 1.13 actually does exist by the way.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:15:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Since I use more rifles and an IMP with ranger trait, I would like to see some more rifles in the game. I tried to find some which are famous in the real world, too and not only some prototype stuff never seen production.

This one is from the German company Sauer who is in business since the 16th century and should be known by most people. The model shown here is currently one of the best and popular modern hunting rifles. It is mentioned along with the evergreen BAR hunting rifle.

While relativly expensive and modern it may not appear below coolness 4. It's available for .300 Win. Mag., 7x64, .30-06, 8x57IS (which is ingame 7,92x57 Mauser), 9,3x62. 2 or 5 round magazines are available. While it is designed for battues and driven hunts, there is no need for an bipod. Overall length ist between 1065mm and 1135mm. Weight is 3250g to 3350g. It is very popular not only in the european market but also in North America. That's maybe the reason why you can get the manufacturers option of a golden trigger (121

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:36:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message To the Best of my knowledge the actual MP-40 and MP44/STG43 are not in 1.13 or AIMNAS.

I'd love to see both in the game for a few reasons. The MP-40 was very popular around the world for terrorists and guerilla forces during the 50s, 60s, and 70s, some might even still be in use today? I would understand the slight limitations it might have (32 round mag) but you could just cut it down to 30 rounds per mag, I'm sure no one would mind. Also it possibly has the shortest range of any SMG, it's effective range being 70m. So a good starting gun, It's low rate of fire (500rds/min vs. Uzi 600rds/min) gives it less recoil and therefore better accuracy. It's iconic, nostalgic, and it's very different from other SMGs, the firing rate, damage potential. It was pretty much the SMG that popularized the folding stock concept.

Page 40 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I would love to see the MP44 because it is the original Assault Rifle, and that's gotta count for something right? It's very pleasing to the eye, it was copied by just about every major power in the world, and by 47' the AK-47 rolled out, which was originally based on a captured MP44 then heavily modified, and totally redesigned. It would most likely have the shortest range of any assault rifle, but great accuracy. The Germans when they built it they wanted an ideal weapon that could bridge the gap between Submachinegun and Rifle, therefore combining Range, and Automatic Fire. I can't vouch for the MP44's worldwide use, but it is a very solid gun. Nowhere near as reliable as the AK of course, but comparable in other catergories.

I would really love to see the MP-40 but if not a MP-38 or MP-41 would be cool. It would also complete the Germany WW2 set I'm not sure if there is a Luger in AIMNAS or 1.13 but I'm guessing so, MG42, Gewehr 43, Karbiner 98, and hopefully is you are feeling generous enough a MP-40 and MP44 ( I know the FG-42 is still AWOL but I agree with you that it's obscure smeagol)

Edit: Actually after some further research the MP44 actually has pretty decent range, 300m on full auto, and 600m on semi-auto, with a ROF of 550-600rds/min Wikipedia

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:39:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message mp40 is in

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:44:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message is it called an MP40 or is it another variant? cuz I haven't ran across one yet

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:47:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message MP44 is under consideration every other time when we discuss new stuff to add on the IRC, ultimately though, the unique caliber just makes it too much effort for a single gun (gun + mag + box + crate). Might get a chance if you find other weapons using 7.92x33mm.

Edit: MP40 is in the game as 'Erma MP40', he recently changed the drop tables a bit but for a few

Page 41 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit versions, you were pretty much guaranteed to find one after the landing zone. Luger is called 'P-08 Parabellum'

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:50:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah that's true I actually can't think of another gun that uses that caliber. Would it be blasphemy to convert it to 7.62x39mm or 7.62x54NATO? Just to get it in an appease the fans. And then at a later date/when time permits to upgrade it to it's proper caliber and adjust it's stats accordingly?

A quick internet search tells me only 4 other weapons were made in 7.92x33mm and they were all German WW2 prototypes, I don't think any made it past that stage, although one looks pretty interesting looking

STG45

VSTG1-5 couldn't find pics on the Wimmersperg Spz-kr and the HIW VSK

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:53:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Foxd1eWould it be blasphemy to convert it to 7.62x39mm or 7.62x54NATO?Yes. And I must have missed the memo about Nato formally adopting a Russian cartridge.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:57:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm not sure either but it's what Wildfire calls the 7.62x54

I got it mixed up 7.62x51Nato

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:59:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message it's RUSSIAN like 7.62x39

Page 42 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit nato is 7.62x51

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:01:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes I found that out about the sametime you posted anyways the Volkssturmgewehr 1-5 I guess 10,000 were made, weird cuz I've never heard of it.

It's hard to keep track of every single ammo caliber in my head, especially since I've never handled or fired a gun in my life. I think I do pretty good with gun/ammo memorization for a civie tho

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:05:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Foxd1eYes I found that out about the sametime you posted anyways the Volkssturmgewehr 1-5 I guess 10,000 were made, weird cuz I've never heard of it. you didn't miss much

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:09:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How easy is it to Make a weapon in 1.13? Since I guess the MP44 probably won't make it in to AIMNAS anytime soon. Scale of 1-10 how much trouble? Could I copy an existing weapon, and then change the picture to an MP44 then change all the statistics accordingly then save as a new gun? I'll use 7.62x39 as the ammo.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:13:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message you could and get hunted down by this forum's krauts within the hour - it'll still be 10 (you have done that kind of stuff before?)

Page 43 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:16:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Other games, I used to mod in my own stuff in Fallout (the original)any Bethesda game, Total War series. But I haven't took a crack at JA2 yet. Well that's not entirely true, I modified Henning, Rudolf, and Laura's stats and traits to reflect their Wildfire values.

I'm gonna go hunt down that thread about adding in custom guns, if it seems pretty overwhelming I'll just take it one day/one step at a time.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:16:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There is (or it least used to be) a german manufacturer of replica WWII guns: http://www.ssd-weapon.com/web_en/produkte_en.htm

I'd assume they adopted the guns to some more modern, common calibres - but unfortunately the website is not working ATM, so ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:38:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Wow nice find Sam_Hotte! Hopefully the website straightens out whatever difficulties it's having.

I gotta say I wish I'd joined the Bear pit years ago, it's a great comminuty, very helpful. Reminds me of NMA for Fallout. Great Games attract Great People.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:45:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Sturmgewehr 44 also known as MP44 was chambered in 7,92x33mm also known as the Pistolenpatrone 43.

The Sturmgewehr 45(M) was only a prototype but was later adopted by MAC and MAS who bueld their weapons on that design. Though it is a prototy and I would not recommend it to put it in the game.

All the Volkssturmgewehre were produced in the late war to provide the so called "Hitlers letztes Aufgebot", mostly old men and kids, with an cheap and quick to produce weapon. See also the

Page 44 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit MP3008. They were chambered in the same caliber (MP3008 in 9x19). Despite the fact that there were several produced and in use, they are not really comparable to developements like the Stg44. If you look for old MPs, I would recommend Schmeisser and Bergmann (MP28, MP18).

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:17:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I always like using a MP-28 Bergman in Silent storm, solid gun.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:07:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DysonThe Sturmgewehr 44 also known as MP44 was chambered in 7,92x33mm also known as the Pistolenpatrone 43. i'd really appreciate if foreigners stopped talking bullshit about german weaponry (that includes the american wikipedia) pistolenpatrone was as the mpi43 a disguise after hitler vetoed the mittelpatrone (7.92x33) and a standard infantry weapon with less than a real cartrige. he accepted mpi.s though. the stgw was developped against an explicit f

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Torres on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:51:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Logirestic, I think that's what I remember hearing. The dictator wanted everyone to stop any kind of money-wasting investigation/production about new weapons so the weapon manufacturers had to disguise the real name of the weapon because they thought it was so damn good not to put their efforts on it.

May I ask for SLAM mines? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selectable_Lightweight_Attack_Munition http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/20-32/chap4.html http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SPd4Sk9Zw6I/AAAAAAAAAmA/eyc4BcF4eIg/s320/SLAM -EFP+munition+looks+like.+This+is+M2+Selectable+Lightweight+Attack+Munition.jpg

Is kind of impossible to defend yourself properly without laying some kind of traps, I'm currently using the insane difficulty, the aggressive AI and the 50 minimium group size and it is madness... MADNESSS, so sometimes I need smaller but more effective mine-like ammunition.

Page 45 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:00:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message nope - they were so sure they needed that gun that they disobeyed a direct f

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:38:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yeah the Luftwaffe wanted an assault weapon with the range of a rifle and the rate of fire of a smg. Strictly the Paratrooper(Fallschirmjager) arm of the Luftwaffe. In Development began in 42', and by 43' they were very pleased with the results as Logisteric said when Hitler, who was already feeling the effects of the allied bombings/strained industry/Loss of Africa/Invasion of Italy etc. cancelled/put on hold all drastic projects, i.e. the Super Panzers, Experimental Weaponry including the MP44. But the Luftwaffe ignored this and continued development. Hitler field tested it, loved it, and it was seeing action as early Mid-Late 44', by Early 45' it was in wide-spread use. But too little too late. :/

Edit: To clarify the gun's original name was sturmgewehr (Assault Rifle), but after Hitler forbade it, they changed it to MP44 (Machine Pistol-The Same designation the MP-40 received so Hitler just thought it was another reboot of the MP-40, boy was he wrong) to trick Hitler and finish it's development for the good of the Fatherland.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:47:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Logisteric i'd really appreciate if foreigners stopped talking bullshit about german weaponry (that includes the american wikipedia) pistolenpatrone was as the mpi43 a disguise after hitler vetoed the mittelpatrone (7.92x33) and a standard infantry weapon with less than a real cartrige. he accepted mpi.s though. the stgw was developped against an explicit f

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 01:56:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Logisteric*snip* in hitler's ww I-scaled mind mpi's were for trenches and such. the infantry used rifles.*snip*

Yeah one of his biggest blunders IMO, every country but Germany realized the overwhelming power of the SMG. Russian employed the PPSH-41/43s in such numbers, that they had entire

Page 46 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit divisions outfitted with nothing but that. The Motorized SMG Companies. I don't even wanna picture what that was like, especially with those 71 round drums. The American's employed the Thompson A1s and Grease Guns in healthy doses throughout the war. The British with the Sten guns. Even the Japanese with the type 85s.

And Germany had the MP-40 (first 38, later 41) but it was scarce on any front. The Rifle to SMG ratio was 7-1 usually. With the MP40s usually going to Officers, Veterans, and Recon squads. At least the G43 saw decent use. Going up against the Ppsh and SVT they needed a semi-automatic rifle at the least. Bolt-action just don't cut it when an entire platoon of SMGs is charging your position. The German's did employ the MG-42 masterfully tho. That was the gun other countries feared the most (although some could argue that it was the dreaded 88, but I'm talking small arms). Anyways I'm drifting off topic and I apologize. Just haven't had a good WW2 chat in ages.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:16:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The U.S. Army made special training videos for their soldiers to somehow control the fear, the MG42 brought upon them.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Logisteric on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 07:57:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Foxd1eLogisteric*snip* in hitler's ww I-scaled mind mpi's were for trenches and such. the infantry used rifles.*snip*

Yeah one of his biggest blunders IMO, every country but Germany realized the overwhelming power of the SMG. Russian employed the PPSH-41/43s in such numbers, that they had entire divisions outfitted with nothing but that. The Motorized SMG Companies. I don't even wanna picture what that was like, especially with those 71 round drums. The American's employed the Thompson A1s and Grease Guns in healthy doses throughout the war. The British with the Sten guns. Even the Japanese with the type 85s.

Page 47 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit (correctly for german names) machinenkarabiner (mechanized carbine) hitler vetoed the maschinenkarabiner for two reason

1. in his eyes it used not a real round (imagine the weight of a 30 round mag of 7.92x57 of this blunder) 2. he did not want a 2nd 'main' cartridge after that the term schwere mpi (heavy mp) was used to disguise it as everyone knew that tha K98k was a good rifle but somewhat old.

@ dyson das macht es auch nicht richtiger (die seite) the us army especially trained their infantry for the sound of the russend

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:22:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Come on kids... what's with this hi-jacking of the item request thread?

If you want to discuss the history of the Stg44 open up a new thread...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Kaerar on Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:46:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Not so much of a request but an offer

Made some replacements for some old images (Callico's, Barrett M98B, INSAS, and XM-25) if you want them I'll send them over

Redone Images Thread

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Foxd1e on Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:44:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ok smeagol, after much deliberation I have the perfect request. The Intratec TEC-22 Semi-Automatic Pistol (P.S. I am not sure if the earliest versions were Full Auto capable/modifyable). It is pretty unique for a Handgun, as it fires .22LR, which is already in AIMNAS thanks to the Ruger 10/22, and comes with a 25 round magazine stock which is quite beastly, and is screaming Full Auto. Also we could use more Gunslinger/Ambidexterity worthy

Page 48 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Hi-capacity guns. Pretty decent muzzle velocity as well. Plus we could use another gun of the Intratec Family. My first choice would be the MP-9 by Intradynamic (European based Intratec Operation) despite it's coolness, it's not much different then the TEC-9, whereas the TEC-22 there are some key differences. Plus it's got see-through Magazines, not many guns can boast that (Some SIG 550s, a Ruger AC556 or two). I'd also like this opportunity to put forward the Kel Tec PLR22 and the SU22. The PLR22 is the pistol featured in the image below, it is also using the .22LR. The SU22 is the Rifle featured below which uses the .22LR as well. I'm just hoping to have tickled smeagol's fancy with these modern additions to the .22LR family.

Heres a Stock image. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intratec_TEC-22

Also note the line at the bottom of the Wiki "When the Tec-22 first came out, some were recalled because they were firing automatic bursts" Maybe a 3 rd burst if full auto is decided against?

I really like what Kel-Tec designed it sure is sweet lookin' ain't it?

This is the Kel Tec SU22, if the M14 converted to .22LR and had babies this would be it.

Please note both the PLR22 and SU22 both have 5.56 variants but we have a million 5.56 guns in 1.13 and AIMNAS, I'd like to see some more less featured variants represented. Although, if smeagol will only add these guns in 5.56 I will sell out in a heartbeat cuz I love the looks of em. XD

My arguement for the .22LR cartridge is that it's very inexpensive, available in huge amounts, and is a very reliable round also guns chambered for .22LR variants are usually 35-50% cheaper then their 5.56 cousins. It doesn't have the stopping power of bigger calibers but it makes up for it with the pros mentioned above. Obviously not end game guns as is, but something to increase variety, something new something interesting, which is what modding is all about.

Page 49 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Mon, 19 Mar 2012 06:07:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I've thought of another interesting weapon, the Nagant M1895 revolver, though it also requires its own caliber to be historically accurate. Its ammunition is very clever, but the weapon is interesting primarily because it is one of the few revolvers that can be suppressed effectively. The cylinder seals completely with the chamber, and because there's no slide clacking around when fired it would probably be the quietest repeating handgun in the arsenal. Reloading is one round at a time, so the AP cost would be huge, the price for subtlety.

On another angle, the Ka-Bar would fit nicely as starting kit for the ex-Marine and Marine-wannabe mercs, plus it's also a pretty good fighting knife in general. I guess it would have stats between the light knife and "standard" knife.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:13:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message are interest in comon gun in rare caliber ? make your choice sir ... http://www.gunsinternational.com/-41-Magnum-Revolvers.cfm?cat_id=235

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by delta_six on Sat, 24 Mar 2012 15:56:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ballistic knife and spare blades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_knife

And FG-42. WWII German paratrooper automatic rifle chambered in 7,92x57mm. First pictures are of classic versions and photos below are from IWA 2011, where modern version with rails was presented.

Link for the pics: http://imgur.com/a/rL0Pm

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:11:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Foxd1eWow nice find Sam_Hotte! Hopefully the website straightens out whatever difficulties it's having.

It's back online:

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But they did not change caliber, tho.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:19:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message delta_sixBallistic knife and spare blades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_knife

And FG-42. WWII German paratrooper automatic rifle chambered in 7,92x57mm. First pictures are of classic versions and photos below are from IWA 2011, where modern version with rails was presented.

Link for the pics: http://imgur.com/a/rL0PmSweet. I will do my best to finally talk him into making one, I want the modernized version

Sam_HotteFoxd1eWow nice find Sam_Hotte! Hopefully the website straightens out whatever difficulties it's having.

It's back online: http://www.hza-kulmbach.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110&Itemid=117&l ang=en

But they did not change caliber, tho.So that would make three versions, each reusing the same pic maybe with different wood color (bolt action, semi auto and an original with FUN!-mode) - a bit lame but definitely an improvement on the ammoitems-to-guns relation.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Wil473 on Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:38:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well if Smeagol doesn't add it, I will in my projects... need to get more use out of the 7.92x57mm 20 round mags that I added a few weeks back. Now to see if it can be done quickly by greyscaling the IoV FG-42 in GIMP and adding rails.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:10:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A few more ideas-

Page 51 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit A Dragonskin repair kit, which would merge with a damaged Dragonskin armor to create a new Dragonskin armor with less damage on it. Possibly dependent on Mechanical skill.

More breastplates might be interesting: Steel breastplates would be much cheaper than ceramic but much heavier. Polymer breastplates, lighter and cheaper than ceramic but with bigger accuracy and AP penalties because they're much bulkier.

.30 Carbine handguns might appeal to the gunslinger crowd. Conveniently, the Taurus Raging .30 and the AMT Automag III both hold 8 rounds, so you could possibly get away with only one handgun mag object for both of them.

Brainwave, best idea I've ever had - the legendary Spetznaz throwing shovel!

How about the Urban Sniper, a short-range, high-precision 12 gauge slug gun? Very good when high-accuracy shots are required through glass at relatively short range. http://firearmspedia.com/scattergun-technologies-tr1187-urban-sniper-model/

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:34:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Finally...

FG42 Model 1:

FG42 Model 2:

That ugly tactical version ain't gonna cut it, unless I get some decent pics (the one provided by smallarmsillustrated.com doesn't cut it, unfortunately...).

And of course the magazine for the Fg42:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:54:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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There are Picatinny rail upgrade kits available for Uzis, might be interesting.

How about a mag adapter allowing the Beretta 93R and Glock 18 to use 30-round SMG mags? Blasting away with the Glock 18 especially would be more fun if you had more rounds to work with.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Fri, 06 Apr 2012 01:08:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Glock with 30-round magazine sounds cool.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:23:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Would it be possible to get 12ga box-magazines for all the external-mag shotguns, so you don't need specialised LBE's? I don't mind imagining the cluster of seven shotgun shells is really a box-mag, but it would be awesome if my Saiga-12k guy could wear something other than the Hunter/Tactical. It'd also be cool if you could choose whether or not to use the AA-12 or USAS without the drum.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests - Winchester Model 94 in .30-30 Posted by veedotja2 on Tue, 10 Apr 2012 03:43:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I don't know if this is an AIMNAS or a 1.13 question, but I'd like to see it in AIMNAS to be sure. You asked for item requests so I have a no-brainer (to me). Plus it would be cool to use a gun in-game that I have in my closet!

I guess you don't have a lot of rural North Americans or South Americans in these forums because I can't believe I couldn't find it in a search! So let me make my case for the unsung Winchester Model 94, specifically chambered in .30-30.

These guns don't show up in movies very often except American Western movies, and not even then because they came out a bit late for most cowboy settings. No one would say they are "cool" either because they are so utilitarian, but they are very common today in Mexico/South America and are just perfect flavor for arming Latin American militia in Argentina, Peru, or Arulco!

Plus it is *real* gun. Not a prototype, rare, fantasy or movie gun. That has to count for something. These guns have literally been manufactured by the millions and are still sellling strongly for about $500. Every gun store I have ever been in carries this gun. Every sporting goods store. Every

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The Winchester Trapper lever action rifle in .44 Magnum is already in the 1.13 xml. But .44 is an uncommon chambering for this gun. However, you can probably use that same graphic for the .30-30 version. The .30-30 is much more powerful than any pistol cartridge and easily outranges the .44 Magnum, but is only chambered in a few guns I know of and all are lever action rifles. The .30-30 is comparable in power to 7.62x39mm that is popular in Warsaw Pact guns like the AK-47. Wikipedia is accurate here:

Wikipedia entry on the .30-30 Cartridge

I propose you add this item as a bullet and gun combo, since the Winchester Model 94 and .30-30 cartridge go together like jam and bread. The .30-30 ammo type isn't in the xml already so it will need to be added. If ever there was a reason to add a cartridge to the xml for just one or two guns, the Winchester 94 is a fine reason.

Also, do not confuse .30-30 Winchester with 7.62x51mm NATO! They share the main metric dimensions but are nevertheless entirely different cartridges. You never, ever see the .30-30 referred to in metric, but occasionally as 30 WCF. The .30-30 is weaker than 7.62x51mm, has a rimmed case and is generally loaded with soft point bullets because nearly all lever actions have tubular magazines and pointy bullets shouldn't rest on the primer of the bullet in front! Soft point bullets are blunt nosed and this hurts range. This has been corrected with modern technology.

I saw in my gun shop that Hornady makes a Spitzer (pointy) nosed loading that has eliminated that 'no-pointy-bullet-in-a-tubular-magazine' limitation by using a rubbery tip. This greatly increases range from 200 to about 250 yards. These cost the same as ordinary soft points, about $1-$2/round. The internets say, go here:

Hornady Ammuntion

For combat purposes the Winchester Model 94, Marlin Model 336, or recently, Mossberg 464 .30-30 lever actions are handy "scout rifles" that can mount ghost ring iron sights or a low-powered scope quite easily.

Ghost Ring sights

Scope Rail

Mossberg makes a crazy model 464 SPX lever action .30-30 that is an all-new design that has rails all over it, synthetic furniture, adjustible stock and flash hider for about $500. This gun is only about a year old but shows that there is a demand for .30-30 lever actions as a handy hard-hitting rifle that can take a scope, tactical light, laser and so on. Shows what one can do by updating an old design:

Crazy Mossberg Lever Action

For game purposes the .30-30 cartridge can be thought of as a 7.62x39mm when loaded with the LeveRevolution ammo, which it should always be when possible. If loaded with soft points, reduce

Page 54 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit the range by 20%. The cartridges always come in a 20 round box but are handled loose, like shotgun shells. It hits a bit harder than the AK-47 round, but never tumbles. As for the gun itself, the Winchester Trapper can be the statistical and graphical model for the Winchester Model 94. It is similar in every way, but holds 6+1 rounds. These are short, handy guns that point quick. They are as short and as light as a plastic stocked battle rifle, even with a heavy walnut stock.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by veedotja2 on Tue, 10 Apr 2012 04:12:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Since I'm on a roll, I noticed you have a single action revolver (Freedom Arms) and several .454 Casull guns, but no Colt SAA in .45 Long Colt! Wildly successful "Peacemaker" made for 140 years and still made today. In fact there's no .45 Long Colt ammo type at all! How can I ever play as "Revolver Ocelot!"

There is something really cool about blasting away with two Colt Peacemaker revolvers.

In real life the .454 Casull case is just a lengthened .45 Long Colt case so a .45 LC cartridge ought to fit into a .454 gun but not the other way around.

In fact, I never tested if a .38 Special cartridge fits into a .357 Mag revolver/rifle in-game, which it ought to. Going to check now...

...I'm back from playtesting. So appartently .38 Special ammo *does not* load into guns chambered for .357 Magnum. In real life I do it all the time. Is this due to limitations of the game engine? I noticed in UC/1.13 5.56x45mm would not load into .223 and vice versa, which was odd, I guess that a gun in JA must be coded to one type of ammo and will not accept any others.

Still, a Colt Peacemaker would be just peachy if you feel like adding it!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 10 Apr 2012 05:22:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The game engine does not permit multi-caliber capable firearms at this time, except in an indirect way. You can associate an item transformation to an appropriate weapon, say a .357 revolver, so that it is transformed into a .38 revolver with appropriate stats, and you can associate a transformation to the .38 to do the reverse. This is the same process used to allow the M79 to fire both grenades and the super-shotshell 40mm buckshot - the weapon can't be both a grenade launcher and a shotgun at the same time, but you can make a transformation that allows it to change back and forth. At least for me, these transformations are rather buggy.

Unfortunately, adding new calibers of ammunition is about the most tedious thing that a modder

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by veedotja2 on Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:58:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vince7403Unfortunately, adding new calibers of ammunition is about the most tedious thing that a modder can do with JA2.

This is unfortunate. I will muck about with the xml today and see how it goes. If it is just a matter of adding a caliber being the problem, I may have to just replace a rarely used caliber and one of the many AK variants . AIMNAS is VFS so I make a copy of AmmoTypes.xml, AmmoStrings.xml, IMPItemChoices.xml, and Items.xml and put them into /Profiles/UserProfile_JA3113AIM/TableData/, edit the xml tables to add the guns and ammunition graphics and data I want to the game and associate the new guns with a starting trait (like hunter) so the IMP starts out with it. Or is that not going to work?

I'm getting off the topic I see. If it all goes well I'll take this conversation over to the modding forum and post my results.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:34:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Four words: Davey Crockett Nuclear Mortar.

With a lethal blast radius of 350m and a minimum range of 400m, it's fun for the whole countryside!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Xubor on Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:06:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by mr_clark on Sun, 22 Apr 2012 13:13:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Xubor

Cool, a couple of interesting 'manufactory' Guns in there.

Page 56 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit And I'd really love to see the G28 as a "real DMR" (Sniper Class) with stats between the 16 and 20 Barrel HK417 in AIMNAS...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 16 May 2012 17:32:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Note: As with much of the stuff I usually post on IRC, see this more as 'interesting stuff I stumble across' rather than an actual request. This thing is brand new and doesn't have many of the needed values publicized yet.

Lightweight Medium Machinegun (LWMMG) in .338 Norma Magnum (a close relative to .338 Lapua Magnum)

EDIT: There's some hard specs up now, effective range probably being among the key points for our purposes. defensereview.com

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Thu, 17 May 2012 06:32:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message As every male human specimen, i would like to have a bigger gun. Thumbs up for the suggestion.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Torres on Sun, 20 May 2012 12:45:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Can I ask for some futuristic looking equipment in SCIFI mode? kinda this http://artect.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/crysisarmor.jpg

It would be awesome to have a highly protected small group of mercs.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 24 May 2012 12:48:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Long overdue:

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Agent 47 on Fri, 25 May 2012 19:55:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 2 things I'd like to add: 1) the Sako SR above should be added, its kick*ss 2) I brought this one up a year ago, I figured it seemed to have gotten some support at the time, but I just checked and it still hasn't been added: Bushmaster ACR http://www.bushmaster.com/acr/#ConfigurationsTab reasons for adding are straightforward 1) Its a kick*ss gun 2) the 6.8 SPC is still underrepresented in this game 3) modern combat rifles are underrepresented in this game (SCAR is the only included I believe)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 25 May 2012 20:05:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Isn't it time for the hype MW2 created around this gun to die down? There were reasons for not including it at the time and they haven't changed.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Agent 47 on Fri, 25 May 2012 20:26:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message good lord! when I mentioned this a year ago u were one of the first to reply and said the exact same thing. Just becuz u hate COD doesn't mean u can't put a single one of its guns into AIMNAS. Ppl all over this forum are saying one of the beauties of AIMNAS is the weapon variety, u can equip guys with watever u think is fitting and not really worry about stats. This is a real great concept and I love it, but scroll through the weapons list and u have pages and pages of older East Bloc weaponry. Why not add a few more of the current gen NATO Spec Op guns? especially if its in a class that only has 10 guns but is still really popular. I mean srsly, think about it, the reasons basically are a few users don't like this gun becuz of its connections to MW2, so every time it comes up they flame it down with "it brings nothing new to the table". All the while scrolling through 5 pages of AK variants every time they play the game.

Page 58 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 25 May 2012 20:31:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Way to get worked up about something ... Yupp, a few users don't like it - smeag's one of them.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 25 May 2012 20:48:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Problem with teh ACR is, that it will cause a massive snowball effect... if I add that, I would also have to add the CM901 (cause Tais will be nugging me with that in his next Error 37 break...), Magpul Masada and Massoud, even more AK variants (like the Zaszava ones), etc etc...

ATM, chances for the Bushmaster ACR are not very high, but that might change...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Fri, 25 May 2012 20:51:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @Agent: Maybe you can help convincing Smeag to add the gun you want by providing the necessary ingame pics and stats? The less work the modder has to do himself the less reluctant he might get ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 25 May 2012 20:56:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nah, I actually like to make the pics, that's not the biggest problem...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Agent 47 on Sat, 26 May 2012 20:12:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotWay to get worked up about something ... Yupp, a few users don't like it - smeag's one of them. u seem to be the guy getting worked up everytime someone mentions the ACR, just noticed u flamed someone else for it at the top of the page. The only reason I got worked up is cuz ur so damn impossible to work with if one so much has ever played a single COD match smeagolProblem with teh ACR is, that it will cause a massive snowball effect... if I add that, I would also have to add the CM901 (cause Tais will be nugging me with that in his next Error 37

Page 59 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit break...), Magpul Masada and Massoud, even more AK variants (like the Zaszava ones), etc etc...

ATM, chances for the Bushmaster ACR are not very high, but that might change... fair enough, I figured there's more to it than "users don't like it". But whatever screw the ACR then, its not worth making a bunch of enemies over, but I still wonder, why so few 6.8 guns?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 26 May 2012 20:24:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Lol, you really need to relax dude.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Sat, 26 May 2012 20:49:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There is a hidden merger for the Bushmaster ACR: Toggle Spoiler STI-Edit + AFS =Bushmaster ACR

I got my Steyt IWS 2000 in AIMNAS using this.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 26 May 2012 21:35:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message To get away from this pointless discussion and back to topic: RPD Carbine, Classic Field mod ...

... and modern interpretation (DSArms RPD Carbine):

As usual, I'll try to find stats and usable pics if you're interested.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Wed, 30 May 2012 15:11:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Adding HK USC at the moment:

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Agent 47 on Wed, 30 May 2012 22:58:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagolProblem with teh ACR is, that it will cause a massive snowball effect... if I add that, I would also have to add the CM901 (cause Tais will be nugging me with that in his next Error 37 break...), Magpul Masada and Massoud, even more AK variants (like the Zaszava ones), etc etc...

ATM, chances for the Bushmaster ACR are not very high, but that might change... on a different note, I could really get behind adding those Magpuls, that Massoud is one sweet little piece of firearm.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Soto Banaris on Sun, 24 Jun 2012 03:33:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Alright, time to get us snipers a new toy to play with... Gentlemen, I give to you... The Grizzly Big Boar

Oh yes, it is a .50BMG single shot bolt action sniper rifle and a beauty of an all steel construction. Manufactor's link: http://www.largrizzly.com/web/guest/bigboar

Oh yes, it also had a role in two movies: Tremors 2 Aftershocks and Tremors 3 Back to Perfection, where they have to get rid of giant monsterworms and their offspring.

imfdbBurt Gummer (Michael Gross) brings an LAR Grizzly Big Boar single-shot .50 BMG rifle to Mexico to deal with the Graboid problem, he later uses it to dispatch a Shrieker at 100 yards resulting in over-penetration; the powerful armor-piercing round causing the Shrieker to explode on impact before traveling through a cinder block wall, a cement mixer, and ultimately the engine block of the truck the protagonists were intending to make their escape in.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by KennyZloj on Mon, 09 Jul 2012 20:16:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thank you very much for this mod. I really liked the implementation of fragments from hand grenades. I'd like to see in this modification, the Soviet offensive hand grenade RG-42. It is very interesting, because the fragments are created by means of a metal strip with a notch, which is located inside the grenade.

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Here are the main characteristics:

Weight of grenade: ~400 gr.

Weight of charge: 110 - 120 gr. TNT

The length of grenade: 121 mm.

The diameter of grenade: 54 mm.

The effective radius of destruction: ~15 - 25 meters.

Number of fragments: ~1000 pcs.

Throwing distance: ~35 - 40 meters.

Delay time: ~3.2 - 4 seconds.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Soto Banaris on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:31:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Today I'm proposing 2 items in the clothing section

Introducing Batlskin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS1B3y_4k8k&feature=player_embedded[/video] http://www.revisionmilitary.com/batlskin/ seeing what you did with the ghillie suit inspired me to search for modular headgear able to protect 90% of the head

Also: Balaclava for Black Ops as facegear/headgear http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/OG/2010-Schampa-Silkweight-Balaclav a-Deluxe-Black.jpg?01AD=37B2pS2pioDFmOlWLpJF16zQk3JHvZQEPTozymuzOYwC5zdwLqrj2 Og&01RI=6DD58918438273F&01NA=

Edit: Saw through the pistols in BR... Yeah, yeah... I know... too many crappy pistols won't be allowed to AIMNAS, but this is a pistol famous for it's use in the vietnam war by Navy SEAL members.

Page 62 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit The Smith & Wesson Model 39 which could be converted into the Mk22 Mod 0 aka "hush puppy".

Smith & Wesson Model 39:

Wikilink

Mk22 Mod 0 aka "hush puppy":

So, even as this only becomes implemented as a unique item for Spooky, I'd like to ask you to consider either the S&W M39 + convertion kit or the Mk22 Mod 0 as standalone weapon for implementation.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by MrClean on Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:16:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message We need the Remington R11 RSASS

Caliber: 7.62 (.308) Range: 800-1000 meters Receiver: JP Enterprises LPR07, Side Cocking Barrel: 18" or 22", 416 Stainless Steel, Cryogenically treated, 1:10 Twist Flash Suppressor: AAC Black Out Suppressor: AAC, Quick Detach Trigger: JP Enterprises, 3.5-5lbs Stocks: MagPul PSR, Fully Adjustable Magazine: 19 or 20 round detachable Hand Guard: JP Enterprises Vtac, Movable rails Optics: Leupold Mark 4 M3 LR/T, 4.5-14X, TMR reticle, BDC, ** Optional J point Bipod: Harris LM-S Rings / Mount: JP Enterprises one-piece Weight: Base Rifle - 12 lbs, Complete - 15.75 lbs Length: W/o suppressor - 39.5", W/suppressor - 46" Variations: Complete system only Accessories: Hard case

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Agent 47 on Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:47:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 63 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit well u beat me to it, I really like the look of these newer style SRs, here's a post I started 3 days ago, but had to save to a draft:

I really like the Batlskins, cuz imo AIMNAS's headwear selection is a little small, and later in the game i like my mercs to wear tactical equipment. cuz one can never have too many Barrett's:

Barrett MRAD .338 Lapua Mag.

Model 98B .338 Lapua Mag.

And then I was gonna mention the Remington as a smaller caliber alternative

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Sun, 22 Jul 2012 05:53:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Full-face helmets wouldn't be that hard to add, or you could add an upgrade kit that transforms an existing helmet to one with higher coverage rating, but they create a conceptual problem because you can't wear a conventional gas mask and a faceplate equipped helmet at the same time. The game can't block the gas mask slot based on what kind of helmet a character is wearing - at least, that's how it was last time I checked.

Along the lines of helmet accessories, would head-mounted flashlights be workable for the face slot? You could wear an IR light and NVGs at the same time - I haven't put a lot of thought into it, just thought it was better to get the idea out.

I've mentioned before that I'd like to see some more variation in breastplates, not the armor vests but the plates you add to them. Currently we have ceramic and titanium, but there are also polymer and steel ones available, and they'd all have different prices and effectiveness. Of course, I know I'm a pretty severe maximalist, and that may be too much effort for not enough payoff.

Has anyone suggested the Xiuhcoatl assault rifle? It probably would have almost the same stats as a G36 but we could all have fun mangling the pronounciation.

Speaking of Mexican weaponry, it would be more or less historically appropriate to feature more previous-generation Mexican or other Central- or South-American weapons in the Arulcan arsenal.

A brief search finds a few interesting specimens: *Mendoza RM2 LMG, .30-06 magazine fed automatic rifle very similar to a BAR, 2kg lighter. *Trejo .22, resembles a tiny 1911, possibly the smallest automatic weapon ever made. Go through your entire magazine in less than half a second!

Page 64 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit *Hispano Argentina Fabrica C-4 submachinegun, pre-WWII design which uses very fat quad-stack box magazines to achieve large magazine sizes in less bulk than drums (50 in 9mm, 40 in .45). Made in full-stock, folding-stock, and machine pistol variants. Aluminum frame, some appear to have been anodized brown. This one strikes me as the most interesting but stats on production runs, size and mass seem to be hard to find, will poke around more soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonasdecarvalho/5507967857/in/set-72157626242408185 The middle seven weapons all appear to be C-4 variants, showing the different versions made.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Soto Banaris on Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:31:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, the face coverage of the Batlskin could be implemented as facegear. Then it's up to you what you want to wear. I always am a fan of modular equipment both clothing and weaponry. In weaponry this is given with SCARs and many more. The thing is though, AIMNAS already has very much weaponry and I'd like to expand the clothing section a little bit further with Batlskin for the assault and the balaclava for more silent Black Ops.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:45:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message At least the modern ARs (5.56) from middle and south america are requested more or less regularly and Smeag's answer has AFAICS always been "no more somehow identical ARs in the common caliber needed/wanted".

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 22 Jul 2012 13:53:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Is that MP44 changed in any way besides black(?) furniture and shining metal?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by K0ukku on Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:37:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now with the new belt-fed MGs feature, maybe the HK51 could be introduced? It is a cut-down HK G3 with belt-fed / magazine fed ammunition.

From wiki:

Page 65 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Quote:"The HK51 is not made by HK, instead being a creation of the American custom after-market. The HK 51 has no real standards but is usually a cut down and modified G3A3 or its semi-automatic clones the HK41 and HK91 and modified to take MP5 furniture and accessories. It is usually fitted with a collapsible stock; 211 mm (8.31 in) barrel; it is 589 mm (23.17 in) long with the stock retracted and 780 mm (30.72 in) with the stock extended. Originally made by Fleming Firearms."

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by lamurt on Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:18:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message anything significant with regards to other sniper rifles already available in the game about this one to be included in aimnas? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JNG-90 http://www.mkek.gov.tr/english/foUrunDetaylari.aspx?iKodUrun=335&iKodUrunKategorisi=131

Calibre 7,62x51mm NATO Magazine Capacity 10 Muzzle Velocity 860m/sec(LAPUA HPS 170 grain) Weight (Empty Magazine) 6400 g Length 1165 mm Barrel Length 660mm Range 1200 m Operation Type Bolt Action Accuracy 0,3 MOA (1 cm at 100 m range )

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 29 Jul 2012 14:41:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Good pick, K0ukku.

Page 66 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dobb on Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:33:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about Nagant Revolver with Silencer for the up-close and personal silenced weapon?

I've been seeing the Angled Foregrip recently, will it be implemented?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by LLIkaOIO on Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:17:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message What about some low end anti-material rifles?

Descriptions, specifications, images: Degtyarov PTRD anti-tank rifle picture for PTRD

Simonov PTRS anti-tank rifle pic for PTRS

14,5x114mm ammunition

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:32:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Will be added sooner or later.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by KaneTheFlesheater on Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:12:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hey Smeagol, can we have the AS50? AFAIK it wasn't present in V27 and I dunno if you got it in, so I'm asking.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/brit/ai-as50-e.html

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Page 67 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by LLIkaOIO on Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:38:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AFAIK, there is no retro grenade launchers, so my suggestion is: RPG-2 description, specification and picture

And not-so-retro RPG-7 clone - Airtronic Mk.777 Only 3.5kg and has picatinny rails for all these advanced scopes Description and specifications picture

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:43:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message type 69 can be interesting .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_69_RPG

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:28:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message the type 69 is already in.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:13:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Oddity of the Week: PTR32KCM4R

Basically, an old style HK rifle in 7.62x39

EDIT: Bonus weapon in full retard mode:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sockenpuppe on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:02:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:35:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It always leaves a less than optimal impression to request stuff that's already in as it shows that you didn't really care enough to search for them in the mod.

PDR: Was in before AIM was even conceived, i.e. was already in 1.13 when AIM branched off. Desert Tactical Arms SRS: I'll give you a pass on this as I'm not sure what version it was added, might have been one of the hard to come by releases.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:35:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Are there any plans to add in the Kord 6P50-1? As far as I know it's the only one-man-portable .50cal machinegun in usage, so it wouldn't break realism too badly so long as it recieves some massive malus for non-prone shooting, and it would definitely fill a role no other weapons currently fill (imagine what blindfiring half a box of 12.7mm AP's could do to a squad of Deidrana's elites taking cover in a shack). Plus, the caliber's already there, although it would require a different sized magazine.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:40:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message dynastiaimagine what blindfiring half a box of 12.7mm AP's could do to a squad of Deidrana's elites taking cover in a shackNothing. We found a bug during the convention where if nobody sees a soldier, he isn't there - no matter how many bullets you throw into a tightly packed phalanx.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by dynastia on Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:47:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message For real? Is that just for bullets, because unseen enemies will set off mines and make tear-gas noises, and I'm pretty certain I've blindfired mortar rounds onto the enemy to good effect, although they might have been seen by civilians or militia.

Page 69 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit But man, that sucks. I've put thousands of bullets into houses with enemies in them hoping for an accuracy-by-volume kill. I don't think I've ever managed one though, now that I think about it.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by usrbid on Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:57:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yo, I can confirm that explosions on enemies nobody sees work fine.

Sometimes an enemy you just saw and possibly shot will crouch or go prone where no one sees the enemy anymore. It is then possible to target the square and you have a chance to hit and even kill the enemy.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 01:47:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

The COP .357 derringer, a four barreled pepperbox holdout pistol. It's small enough to keep in just about any pocket and uses the .357 round (or .38) to do alot more damage than other compact pistols. Downsides are that it has a heavy trigger pull that makes it shoot just as slowly as a barracuda or any other .357 revolver, it has poor accuracy and only 4 bullets.

Gun has a unique look and unique uses that would make it better than just adding in another bland 9mm pistol. Plus, it was in bladerunner/the matrix, which were awesome movies

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 02:19:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 9mm extended magazine adapter - pretty much the same as all the other items that let you load larger magazines, these would just make a 9mm pistol capable of using 30 round mags.

'jungle style' magazines would be great to have ingame, though I'm not sure how they'd be coded up. Essentially it's just two gun magazines duct taped togethor, one upside down. This makes reloading alot quicker since all your merc has to do is flip your mag around to reload the gun instead of pull one out of his LBE. Some sort of reaction with a gun mag and duct tape that increased the firearm's reload speed but gets destroyed once you reload once might be doable, idk though. (guy in the front has his mags done up jungle style) bullet/shell stock band - hold some ammo on your gunstock and you can have it on hand when you reload. Mostly used with loose rounds, but it was popular with some magazine fed weapons as well, like the m1 carbine.

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:38:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message @smeagol: In response to a complaint you recently uttered on IRC:

Tavor in 5.45x39mm

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:45:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hera arms glock carbine - semi-auto rifle conversion that turns your glock into something more like a light smg. Extended barrel and stock make it accurate, but it's range isn't all that good. glock 20 - it's a glock in 10mm auto.

my WIP hera glock carbine. Anyone can use it for whatever they want, still need to tone down the highlighting on the pistol grip and properly shade the stock

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:27:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Nice image you have there.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:31:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message edited and updated

Page 71 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:02:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Those are some very nice images for that pistol-carbine there. I don't really get the point of such a device, but I may just be crazy.

The Kord would be a very fun weapon to add, and it would finally allow me to live out my dream of the .50 caliber all-stars merc team: .50 Beowulf assaulters, .50 BMG sharpshooters, .50 AE sidearms, .50 Soviet support gunners. That is a joke, but it might just work.

I've been trying to keep eyes out for unusual or interesting weapons that don't call for exotic calibers or odd magazine sizes but haven't found anything good lately.

While not too unusual or exotic, there are some .45ACP pocket pistols, which might allow for a more potent sidearm than the Makarov for mercs who've devoted their entire kit to carrying... things that aren't pistols. Slim-grip models often hold 6+1 and could use the 7-round mag object. There's a Springfield XD derivative, or the Taurus Milennium .45, off the top of my head.

There are suppressors available for .50 Beowulf, but not surprisingly they're pretty monstrous.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by kotkata on Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:05:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This is the latest in 5.56 by La Rou.Kind of in the spirit of the Noveske rifles. Build by the specification of one of the biggest names in tactical carabines today. Reading through the reviews by proven combat instructors its quite light, accurate, easy to manage and as reliable (if not a bit more) as any AR15 gets.To me its quite worth to think about it, but its your mod. I am sorry, I don't know how to post a picture from my computer,so here is a link. Thanks and have a good day. http://www.laruetactical.com/costa-556

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:11:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message lol, tactically speaking those glock carbines would be pretty damn useless unless you're too early in the game to find decent smg's. I mostly drew it up because the gun looks pretty neat, so I'm glad everyone seems to like the image I made

Page 72 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:22:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message some sub-compact .45's would be neat, think there are only full sized versions of the .45 ingame right now. This's the Llama Mini-Max m1911. Has a 7 or 10 round mag capacity and I think a 3.14" barrel

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:31:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Compact P10-45 pistol, caliber .45ACP.

i think this one can be usefull

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 06:36:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes that pic will do.

I'll consider it.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:45:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message details for pt10-45 are here http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/can/para-ordnance-p14-45-e.html

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:17:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Pocket .45s were nice to have back when IoV was called DBB. Tomcats and alike too.

Page 73 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:09:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Obrez! A cut down pistol version of the mosin nagant, used by slavic gangsters from the prohibition era. It's another pretty ridiculous gun, but a point blank 7.62x54r round will mess someone up.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:13:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message huh, the sizing somehow got screwed up on that image. Let me try again and I'll post it up

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by LLIkaOIO on Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:48:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message radioactivejesusThe Obrez! A cut down pistol version of the mosin nagant, used by slavic gangsters from the prohibition era. It's another pretty ridiculous gun, but a point blank 7.62x54r round will mess someone up.

Hah, yes! I vote for this!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by elSapo on Thu, 06 Dec 2012 07:00:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message You are kulak!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by LLIkaOIO on Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:30:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message elSapoYou are kulak! Net, skoree partizan 8-P

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Page 74 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by Torres on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:42:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It would be great if you could add some new pics for the actual syringes. They look a little bit too... small? It would make much more sense if the energy and regen looked like hand sized actual epinephrine syringes.

Also, would it be possible to have back those amazing grenade magazines? maybe just for those weapons that were specially designed to save time by making smaller grenades fit into magazines (OICW or XM25) instead of loading those 6 tubes of grenade launchers like the milkor.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:43:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Torres84Also, would it be possible to have back those amazing grenade magazines? maybe just for those weapons that were specially designed to save time by making smaller grenades fit into magazines (OICW or XM25) instead of loading those 6 tubes of grenade launchers like the milkor.I totally support this. It shouldn't be too much work, just a bit of playing around with attachments and capacity modifiers and maybe a tiny bit of coding. I'll have to play around a bit

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Rouger on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:02:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This si sjust an ida, but well here it goes. Most of the calibers ingame are military loads, exception being a few crazy one off rounds like the .470 and hmm can't think of any, installs on another 'puter. For me this gets quite boring as the any hunter will be using Demilitarized rifles, Remington 700 and the sort. Essentially Iron sight Sniper rifles. Exception to this would be the SKS and Mosin Nagant, commonly sporterized and rarely used in armies anymore. Well the talibans use the Mosin Nagant as a ten rupee Jezzail for solving 3000 pounds of education. Theoretically both of these could be availale at a low level in homesteads and farmhouses but that would mess up item progression since you would have fairly heavy ammo readily available for that one off AKM you snag from a knocked down bad guy. The same goes for Nato calibre weapons, even though they are rarer outside of the US it's not unthinkable that a farmer keeps a 7.62nato to fend of cougars or bloodcats...

What i suggest is an arbitrar choice of a calibre that nowadays is solely used as a hunting round.

Page 75 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit First thing that comes to mind is the 6,5 swedish. Good ballistics, common in Europe and not in use by any army xcept for ceremonial purposes. Main point here is to only have it available in HP loads, hunting loads. Then add a few common guns in the calibre, disused service rifles and some CZ or other manufacturer. Preferably full stock to inhibit use of bipods. Since HP rounds are close to useless from anything semi automatic after early game you wouldn't have that ready supply of ammo when you steal Johnny redshirts AKM.

I realize that this would tak some work but then it's just an idea. It would be extra fun to see something li this in merc gear choices, but i could probably change those my self, Making gear choices with civilian weapons far cheaper than those with military hardware.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:15:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm not really sure what you're getting at. In the current state, you will get stuff like SKS, M1Car, 5.56 bolt actions and Saiga rifles dropped in Omerta, along with Type 85, MP40, M3 and AK74U carbines. Mosins, Garands, 98's and Enfields will follow soon after (with decent odds of finding Brens, BARs and the legendary MG42 as well) AIMNAS works on a totally different progression than Vanilla and the SKS is indeed a progress 0 rifle. The R710 in .30-06 is available in Ravens Kit btw, deathmachine would be a fitting description and unlike the SR-25 that is her top choice, you'll be able to keep it throughout the early game.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by sidew on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:21:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Is the Anzio 20mm sniper rifle, available? http://www.tactical-life.com/online/special-weapons/anzio-ironworks-monstrous-20mm/ a video of this monster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ft2j6J4NcY

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:51:11 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There are no targets for such a cannon.

If someone adds additional enemies in the form of armoured jeeps with LMGs or somesuch, I might consider it, but as it stands, no need to add these really...

Page 76 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Uriens on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:56:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message That rifle seems like someone's idea of crossing the bridge between sniper rifles and howitzers. :rifle: :silly:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:27:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Matter of fact, 20mm is usually the size where something starts being a cannon.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Rouger on Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:39:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotI'm not really sure what you're getting at. In the current state, you will get stuff like SKS, M1Car, 5.56 bolt actions and Saiga rifles dropped in Omerta, along with Type 85, MP40, M3 and AK74U carbines. Mosins, Garands, 98's and Enfields will follow soon after (with decent odds of finding Brens, BARs and the legendary MG42 as well) AIMNAS works on a totally different progression than Vanilla and the SKS is indeed a progress 0 rifle. The R710 in .30-06 is available in Ravens Kit btw, deathmachine would be a fitting description and unlike the SR-25 that is her top choice, you'll be able to keep it throughout the early game.

Im getting at that. All those calibres are used in auto-weapons. So the ammo if it's HP will be usefull against armored targets. Like a weapon cul de sac, instead of mini-14s and SKS you get a weapon with a calibre that can be common but not giving you any edge later in the game. Something that would be a rifle not just a sniper rifle in civilian clothes or an ancient service rifle. The word "hunter" in relation to the current line up in the rifle cathegory should be substituted with "survivalist" Lot's of service rifles, oddities, desniperized sniper rifles and carbines with auto turned off.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:48:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, problem with any new rifle caliber is the rat's tail that clings to the rifle. I.e. magazines, boxes, crates. And how does that stuff give you an edge later on? By the time armored targets are around, you'll also get enough decent weapons anyway, I don't see what having a couple hundred rounds of hollow points changes there.

Page 77 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Torres on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 14:28:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dude! 20mm? you can't barely find room for a 12mm/50. caliber sniper. Where are you going to store the ammo? what on earth are you going to shot at with such beast?

You can kill just anything with a .408 or 30-06, why would you use a 20mm? it would be extremely high AP to shot, AP to raise and reload.

EDIT.- Smeagol, reeeeleeaseee the Krake... ehm... releasee the christmas version !! hahaha (pretty please)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by lockie on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:25:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Quote: releasee the christmas version !! hahaha (pretty please)

It'll be ready when ..... it's ready !

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:28:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ya don't get ye presents on 23rd either! So be patient one more night.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Lowtech_ on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 01:55:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Semi .338 rifle? http://www.tactical-life.com/online/special-weapons/olr-%E2%80%9Cbad-news%E2%80%9D-338 -lapua-mag/

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:57:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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Semi? vfFg5FRDubU[/video]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:06:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message We've looked into that rifle in summer, smeag doesn't particularly like stuff that looks like an AR15 though ... we now have the Vigilance VR1 however, semi auto .408 Oh, and not to forget the GD LWMMG (with the minor artistic license of using Lapua instead of the original Norma to avoid more unique calibers for the time being)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by LLIkaOIO on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:04:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Some one-man-portable automatic grenade launchers...

XM174 The XM174 is a mounted automatic 40mm grenade launcher heavily based on the M1919A4 machine gun and the M79 grenade launcher but fed from an ammo can. It was used in the Vietnam War as a tripod mounted crew-served weapon and as a weapon mounted on various vehicles and aircraft. It uses the same ammunition as the m79 (40x46) Short description and characteristics picture (best from what I found...)

And modern one - AGS-30 AGS-30 image 30mm rounds for AGS-17/30 (I think its VOG-30) Ammunition used in the AGS-30 (HE and smoke) Picture for grenade belt

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:00:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please it is posible add berreta m 951 ? http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/it/beretta-951-e.html

Page 79 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:46:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message LLIkaOIOSome one-man-portable automatic grenade launchers...

And modern one - AGS-30 AGS-30 image 30mm rounds for AGS-17/30 (I think its VOG-30) Ammunition used in the AGS-30 (HE and smoke) Picture for grenade belt Sheesh, I'm all for moar dakka, but don't you think that's a bit excessive?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by LLIkaOIO on Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:48:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes, it`s a bit excessive. But there is NEVER enuff dakka. Seriously, XM214 and Kord (suggested here two times) is more excessive than these guns. AGLs are intended to use against "soft" targets, and can be used to effectively destroy sandbags ingame.

2 Smeagol If you find it hard to implement, you can drop AGS, but please, keep the XM174.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 25 Dec 2012 08:16:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Have you ever loaded up the AICW with thermobaric rounds? I think you're vastly underestimating a salvo of half a dozen 40mm versus normal bullets, however big.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by winehouse on Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:15:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 80 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit 1) I always thought it would be cool for one of the psychos to have a bag that permits him to carry his head collection around since there are 7 unique heads.

2) The camouflage covert ops pic could possibly be a briefcase that contains the disguise and makeup.

3) I believe that the crowbar was replaced by the hooligan bar. The crowbar probably should still be found around Arulco, in sheds for example. I found it.

4) The SWAT helmet could have a transformation that lets the goggles come down. In the pic we can see attached goggles.

The zip ties were a nice touch. What are the differences in handcuffs? Are they based on usage and thus need to be repaired?

Is the drugs feature going to be further utilized? I noticed that a KILO of llello has been in AIMNAS quite a long time.

What's up with the boxed in view of the game now? In fullscreen the game is not spread. This happens regardless of resolution option.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Flugente on Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:43:35 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Handcuffs are 'used up' after arresting one soldier, but you get them back after the battle has ended and the prisoners have been sent away. Other 'arresting items', like zip ties, are used up after arresting (they lose a few percent status) and thus can be used on multiple enemies, but you do not get anything back.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:18:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message hi please it is a posible add m39 smoke hand grenade ?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 04 Jan 2013 10:09:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Behold, Nemesis, the messenger of righteous anger:

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That one's been discontinued, but its offspring lives on as the less-interesting-sounding-but-equally-menacing-looking SAN 511: http://world.guns.ru/sniper/large-caliber-sniper-rifles/switch/san_511-e.html

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 04 Jan 2013 10:14:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00hi please it is a posible add m39 smoke hand grenade ?

I'd give it a definate maybe.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Sat, 05 Jan 2013 08:45:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Now that we have prisoner management, which makes non-lethal combat actually useful, are there any plans for more less-lethal weaponry? I know a new 12-gauge round would be a nightmare to implement at this point, but there are other things out there.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Taro_M on Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:25:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

THIS HAS TO BE IN THE GAME!!!11!elevenone

As for non lethal weapons I agree that 12g shells might be to much work as it would be just one type but at least 2 (rubber bullets and 12g teaser shell).

However a handheld teaser with rather small range would be a nice addition to arsenal. It could offer reliable way for taking out enemies at short range without rising the alarm.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:29:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about "borrowing" from 'Splinter Cell' and adding rubber, taser etc. launchable from 40mm

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 08:07:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The UTS 15

Fancy shotgun.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:09:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Looks sexy. I wonder if smeagol would include another Turkish shotgun.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 19:59:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Odd mag capacity may be a problem, but one can just assume the 12 shell limit for 3", none chambered and thus have the same as Neo/KSG.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Wil473 on Wed, 09 Jan 2013 22:42:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The UTS 15 in my v4.xx projects use a pair of 7 round tubes (one is an inseparable underslung attachment) to produce a 14 round capacity. Neostead & KSG are implemented as 2x6 round shotguns.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:51:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Spr

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Page 83 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:37 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It's also an Art Deco masterpiece- I'd hate myself if I actually used it for its intended purpose.

Signed, Vince "Save the art!" 7403

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:10:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The FN FAL in 7.92

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by radioactivejesus on Mon, 04 Feb 2013 03:44:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ruger 10/22 tactical. In real life there's a huge aftermarket for parts, threaded barrels to fit silencers, railkits, 25 round magazines and improved mag releases.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by veedotja2 on Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:15:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vince7403While not too unusual or exotic, there are some .45ACP pocket pistols, which might allow for a more potent sidearm than the Makarov for mercs who've devoted their entire kit to carrying... things that aren't pistols. Slim-grip models often hold 6+1 and could use the 7-round mag object. There's a Springfield XD derivative, or the Taurus Milennium .45, off the top of my head.

Glock makes a slimline G36 in .45 ACP with 6+1 capacity. Can make the picture from a cut down G17 or G18 already in the game.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Zombiehunter on Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:13:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hi, I got a few item ideas who might be worth considering.

Page 84 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Maybe expanding the Helmet variety by adding the MICH Helmets in the variations TC 2000, TC 2001 and TC 2002

Actually as far as I remember there were already .STI pictures for the mich in the editor in one of the v1.13 releases, don't know what happened to them though.

In the last few days I read something about somebody trying to add the ability to mount weapons on fixed positions sandbags in this case, to add the possibility to have some kinds of Machinegun nests I presume.

If this is indeed the case I ask you if you might perhaps add some Heavy Machineguns like the Browing M2HB

And perhaps the DShK if somebody doesn't feel like using American equipment

Thank you for your time =)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:49:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Is the maximum item mass limit still at 25kg or wherever it was? I think we can carry corpses around now, so I think that limit's been raised. The M2HB wasn't brought in before because it would break the old item mass limit.

As it is, it would be overkill anyway, since there aren't that many vehicles to shoot at. I myself suggested the Kord 12.7mm Soviet "light heavy" machine gun knowing it was overkill, but it fits a bit better in the more mobile sort of campaign JA2 tends to have. Plus, you can fire the Kord from the hip, which isn't very practical but it's just the sort of ultra-macho nonsense some of our mercenaries would participate in.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Zombiehunter on Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:40:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vince7403Is the maximum item mass limit still at 25kg or wherever it was? I think we can carry

Page 85 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit corpses around now, so I think that limit's been raised. The M2HB wasn't brought in before because it would break the old item mass limit.

I understand your point but I am thinking about sector defense, for example I had waves of enemies attacking my position in Drassen Mine and my defense was a small well-equipped 6-man team of mercs as of that time any town militia was almost non-existent and of little to no use (they were obliterated at turn 3) I managed to put a lot of them down but had to retreat anyways. So 2-3 M2's positioned at some choke points and the favor may shift a little bit.

Regarding the overkill, as the M2 is indeed a very serious gun which is able to pin down and annihilate superior numbers of assaulting infantry it is still a support weapon and not very mobile so if you don't know how to use any HMG the superior firepower can't outweigh any inferior battletactics. Not to mention if I look at the vast selection of firearms and the great selection of antitank weapons we enjoy in the modded versions of JA2 nowadays (thinking about we only have a few dozen tanks to encounter on our way to Meduna) then you could also call this overkill, as for my part I like having a big selection where I can choose my guns from.

Regarding your point about using it against vehicles I point to my earlier statement about using the M2 as an anti-infantry support gun. Not to forget that this was originally the role the M2 Browning has been designed for.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:00:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message In JA2 gameplay, the M2 is a very poor choice. The good old bonesaw or its descendant together with an assistant gunner to load it will put three times the rounds down range which, while losing 40% in individual damage, more than make up for it in total damage per turn and suppression effect. Also, it's heavy and just using rifle animations for it looks stupid. Maybe if we ever get gun emplacements in. Also, the original role of the M2 is downing aircrafts and gutting armored cars, both of which are distinctly absent.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:08:01 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotIn JA2 gameplay, the M2 is a very poor choice. The good old bonesaw or its descendant together with an assistant gunner to load it will put three times the rounds down range

Page 86 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit which, while losing 40% in individual damage, more than make up for it in total damage per turn and suppression effect. Also, it's heavy and just using rifle animations for it looks stupid. Maybe if we ever get gun emplacements in. Also, the original role of the M2 is downing aircrafts and gutting armored cars, both of which are distinctly absent.

I totally agree on this. Even the .338 Lapua MG is already overkill.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:25:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The .338 LWMMG is precisely enough - if you subscribe to the infantry doctrine that requires you to be able to counter-suppress from outside of the opponent's effective range. So, I believe the LWMMG deserves to be in the game but anything more would be excessive... unless mobile armored cars get added to the game, which seems unlikely.

Speaking of .338, how about the Savage 10/110 FCP in .338 Lapua? At a base price of $1600 it is probably the least expensive .338 Lapua sniper rifle made, but its accuracy is only marginally less than rifles costing four times as much. No attachment points for anything besides bipod and scope, and a touch heavy at 4.9kg.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by gazala on Sun, 21 Apr 2013 05:11:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hi smeagol, it is possible to you add Pindad SS-2 to your great AIMNAS mod?

http://world.guns.ru/assault/indo/pindad-ss2-e.html my reason, it is a Full Modification of FN FNC, and using a common 5.56x45mm NATO Round, not hard to make it.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:11:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message So it's a modded FNC that looks more or less exactly like an AR and fires standard 556? You know that's actually reasons not to include it. Is there anything special about it other than being your country's contribution to the bottomless pool of 556 automatic rifles? Honest question, I understand that everyone wants 'his' rifle in but

Page 87 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit smeag needs a lot of convincing for this particular class.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by gazala on Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:45:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Oh, Please. I've already tried to make images of the gun.

okay?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Sam Hotte on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 03:05:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Doing the pics is not very helpful in convincing Smeag of adding another 5.56 AR to his mod ...

Smeag prefers adding guns that have a special feature, close a gap in a certain role in game or something like this. That's what Depri was trying to tell you, IMHO.

OTOH since you have the pics, you could replace just one similar gun, e.g. the FNC, with those pics, change description, edit one or two stats and are done to have your favourite gun in your local installation of the mod ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 05:54:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This. Plus he actually likes doing pics.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:42:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Though unfortunately he has VERY little time atm. Preparation/Apprenticeship to become a

Page 88 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit teacher is hell of a lot of work, which leaves me next to no time to actually do modding atm. I might get in some free time during school holidays, but I can't promise anything.

For the next year, work on this project will have to be put on ice.

Mapwork has been taken over by Zombiehunter and from what I can tell so far from the maps I've seen, they look very promising. So in that regard there actually is progress.

I not even have time anymore to stop by the IRC chat atm.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tanelorn on Sun, 05 May 2013 17:43:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Good luck with life, man. Working with students, whatever their age, is tough. I've been following the thread for a couple of years and your latest post jolted me into action. Seriously, AIMNAS is a huge undertaking, for me it is the essence of JA2 modding. I keep my fingers crossed that you will not drop it completely. It is your brainchild.

The above mentioned insight on the item/weapon selection process gave me some ideas about some unique firearms that could someday be included in the mod, perhaps:

The Italian 6.5x52 Carcano M91, the JFK murder weapon. A light, accurate, fast firing bolt action rifle. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/repeating-rifle/it/carcano-m91-e.html http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Carcano_M91/38

The Austrian 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer 1903 carbine. Similar, but faster firing, with a heavier bullet. Ernest Hemmingway referred to it as the world'd finest rifle, iirc and "Karamojo" Bell, who shot more than 1,500 elephants used it for approximately 300 of these kills. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Mannlicher-Schoenauer_1903_carbine

The Czech 7.62x39 CZ vz. 52/57 rifle because it was favored by Che Guevara over the AK-47. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/autoloading-rifles/chex/vz52-and-vz5257-e.html http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Czech_Vz._52_Rifle

The French- American .30-06 Chauchat machinegun, because it is arguably the world's worst weapon ever. Mass produced and insanely unreliable. As a nasty prank to players. http://world.guns.ru/machine/fr/chauchat-csrg-m1915-e.html

The Brazilian .30-06 Model 954 Mosquet

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by vulgarmonkey on Mon, 06 May 2013 19:02:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 89 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit As a fellow educationalist (sort of), good luck with that. And I appreciate the mod probably keeps you busy enough.....however, in the spirit of the thread, I thought I'd make a suggestion while I'm passing through, as way of tipping good service, I guess.

So yeah. How about one of the old Flash rocket launchers? Unique selling point: 4 tubes. And it seems suitable for the setting....sort of thing a third world army / bunch of rebels / financially strapped merc might use.

Also, it was in Commando! edit: The hi-tec goncz might look the sort for sci-fi mode too, I suppose.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 06 May 2013 19:22:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Already in. hi-tec goncz?? // NVM, found it.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by vulgarmonkey on Mon, 06 May 2013 19:35:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Awesome. I'm sure that'll prove useful.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tanelorn on Fri, 10 May 2013 08:47:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I have to note that not all categories of 5.56 weapons have been covered. Ultra-compact, automatic versions of the Colt CAR-15 Commando with 6.5-inch barrels such as the Olympic Arms K23B as used in films like the Departed, Righteous Kill and Skyfall (to take that cheap shot at 007) are one such example. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Olympic_Arms_K23B_Tactical#Olympic_Arms_K23B

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tais on Fri, 10 May 2013 14:57:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 90 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Well AIMNAS does have the Mk18, comes pretty close imo

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:16:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Saw this recently, thought it might be interesting: The Franklin Armory "Convert," a 12-gauge caliber conversion for the Beretta 92 and clones. Single-shot only; I understand that programming a single shell ammo object would be horribly tedious, so I suggest programming it as a bolt-action weapon using the 2-shell "magazine" and having the bolt-cycling AP cost be the same as it takes to reload it.

Product page here: http://www.franklinarmory.com/PRODUCTS_CONVERT.html

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:30:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message You think it is, which isn't the same as knowing. In fact, making a single shell is a trivial, yet pretty tedious task regarding the sheer variety of 12G ammunition.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:04:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Whoza... a 12g single shot pistol? seems quite cool, to be honest...

Might even be worth it to make the 10+ single shell items for it.

The 1 round shells are even already in.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:49:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This is sort of interesting, the Bullpup Unlimited conversion kit for the Remington 870. http://www.bullpupunlimited.com/features-a-benefits

Page 91 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Word on enthusiast forums suggests that the resulting weapon is no less reliable than the original, but the assembly and disassembly are horribly complicated. An improved version is apparently being designed now.

Another somewhat interesting weapon, the Slovakian K-100 pistols use a somewhat rare internal action but probably aren't different enough to rate adding to the game. However, the military K-102 variant has a two-round burst function. Could be interesting. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/slov/k-100-e.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandpower_K100

Another interesting shotgun, the ETA Devastator starts as a semi-automatic Remington action but has most of its parts replaced with more aggressive ones. The manufacturers claim the weapon has the fastest-cycling action of any combat shotgun, allegedly able to deliver 7 rounds in under a second. http://www.elitetacticaladvantage.com/products/shotguns/devastator/devastator.html

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Khandruas on Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:48:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Howdy Smeagol, I have a huge request... I'm trying my best to put together an Aliens themed mod. There's already a Pulse Rifle in the XML, but there is no Smartgun.

If it's not too much trouble, could you please add this for me? Though the smartgun is my primary request, if you are feeling generous, perhaps some variants of the Pulse rifle? as i dont intend to allow them to attach or detach attachments.

Thanking you ever so much in advance.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Thu, 26 Sep 2013 01:02:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Not so much an item request as an item revision - the Micro Tavor has the magazine release button above the triggerguard, rather than using a lever at the back like the standard Tavor. I suggest that the reload AP cost on the MTAR be lowered to closer to traditional-pattern combat rifles.

Page 92 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Zombiehunter on Thu, 26 Sep 2013 02:27:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vince7403Not so much an item request as an item revision - the Micro Tavor has the magazine release button above the triggerguard, rather than using a lever at the back like the standard Tavor. I suggest that the reload AP cost on the MTAR be lowered to closer to traditional-pattern combat rifles.

I wouldn't be sure about that, for an experienced rifleman, this makes a difference of 1-2 seconds 3 at best, not sure if this would justify an AP lowering

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by pheloncab on Thu, 26 Sep 2013 03:18:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I guess the real issue on reloading times is.. how many AP is appropriate, which then gets into how many seconds is in a turn and how many ap would then an average reload take.

I know one of the other threads had some discussion on what is a static and what are dynamic costs for AP. if a turn is 10 seconds then even a one second difference is 10%. if a turn is 30 seconds then its only 3%.

I think we should probably figure out something like how much time per turn, then at some average like 80ap per turn or something to get a guestimate of how many ap would be accounted for in that 1-2 seconds. if its one AP, no big deal if its 3 or 4, that can be an aimclick, if its 5-6, that can be a stance change.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:26:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 5 seconds as per the commonly accepted interpretation of the manual.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by pheloncab on Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:16:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrot5 seconds as per the commonly accepted interpretation of the manual. Thank you, So if a turn is 5 seconds and you can shave a second off reload that is 20%. Pretty significant.

Page 93 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Certainly enough to justify an xml edit to knock off 5 or 10 ap from the reload.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 26 Dec 2013 17:30:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Added a few heavy WW1 & WW2 guns (so far Lewis Gun, PTRD and PTRS). Those are not yet in the XMAS release, but will get into the next update.

Lewis Gun:

PTRD:

PTRS:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Sat, 28 Dec 2013 13:44:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Suggestion below where made before. I just want to recap and repeat them again.

With the many possibilities of the loadout equipment, I started to love the MPs. They fit in a leg holster, can be tuned with a lot of attachements and are fast to draw and shoot. With the right ammunition and in burst or auto mode, they do their job very well. If a rifle man (or a sniper woman) gets in the situation of an unexpected enemy encounter in close range, almost nothing beats the fast drawing of a Beretta 93r (or similar) and pumping some rounds of Golden Saber ammo into the head until it explodes.

So far so good. I like to suggest some ideas for the MPs in AIMNAS.

Imagine your sniper is providing your main firing squad from inside a building. Enemy got reinforcements wich enter the sector behind our mercenaries. Maybe one of them is running in front of the window while some others are near. You sling your sniper rifle in the second hand, grab the MP and shoot the first enemy. Then you sling your rifle to the shoulder or even drop it, grab the designated stock, you're carrying in the vest or at the other leg. Assemble them and start assaulting the enemies around or fight your way through the building to your second position or somewhat.

This can also be done with decent SMGs, which you carry but you have to spent at least one more place in the larger containers.

Page 94 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit On a long range assault, every place in your carried equipment is important. These purposes are good served by e.g. MP7, VBR PDW, AEK-919. Veresk an MSCM unfortunatly don't fit in the MP holsters.

And, MP stocks are cool, of course

Like the Glock 18 Tactical, there are stocks for many MPs: Beretta 93R

Stechkin APS:

Pic on wiki

OTs-33 Pernach:

Mauser 1932/M712 (fits on other C96 versions, too):

Pic on wiki

A new player in the MP section (which I really love to see) could be HK VP70:

Another interesting and well known model (no known original stock) CZ-75B full auto: some older models: Steyr M1912 Pic on wiki (there must be a stock version, couldn't find it, yet) Luper P08 long barrel with drum magazine and stock (semi auto ?) Pic on wiki

The idea is, to have the stock detachable. Like the Glock 18 Tactical it should convert the weapon to an new weapon but could be detached again (by the gear in the EDB) and one gets the weapon and the stock back. For the Glock 18, a RONI stock suits maybe better but that is subordinate. The HK VP70 can only have 3 round burst with the stock attached, because the mechanism for firing bursts is there implemented. Maybe a stock for the HK MP5k can be implemented, too. Pic on imfdb.org

I saw a briefcase in the AIMNAS XMAS release 2013. This brings me to the idea to make it combinable with the HK MP5k. For those who like covert operations (according to the manufacturer, for controllability reasons, it must be fired with both hands, holding the case horizontal in front of you, pressing it against your

Page 95 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit chest):

Pic on hkpro.com

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 29 Dec 2013 09:58:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message czechoslovakia lewis like machinegun,vzor 30 for using in avicraft use or for troops http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/42468/title/CZK-vz-30-kulomet-pro-pozorovatele .. lewis gun ... original or in another caliber ? german army using lewiis rechamer for 7.92x57 caliber

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 29 Dec 2013 10:00:15 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Lewis gun currently in game is in .303 British.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 31 Dec 2013 16:46:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message wolf00hi please it is a posible add m39 smoke hand grenade ? done

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Wed, 01 Jan 2014 07:40:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please it is a posible adding one from these ? http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/ch/hawk-pump-e.html china shogun[if you like them,please select one model from list] http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/GUN-981 http://world.guns.ru/handguns/double-action-revolvers/rus/nagan-arr-195-e.html mosin nagant

Page 96 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit revolver http://world.guns.ru/smg/swed/cbj-ms-pdw-e.html pdw made in Sweden caliber 6.5x25 CBJ-MS thank you

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:29:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Found something interesting, though I'm not sure how recent it is: ELCAN makes a rifle scope that goes from fixed 4x to 1x reflex with no change in eye relief. Well, so they claim anyway, but apparently US SOCOM likes them enough to want them. http://www.elcan.com/Experience/SuccessFiles/USSOCOM.php http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/scopes/rifle-scopes/spector-dr-dual-role-sights-prod45 006.aspx

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:05:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vince7403Found something interesting, though I'm not sure how recent it is: ELCAN makes a rifle scope that goes from fixed 4x to 1x reflex with no change in eye relief. Well, so they claim anyway, but apparently US SOCOM likes them enough to want them. http://www.elcan.com/Experience/SuccessFiles/USSOCOM.php http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/scopes/rifle-scopes/spector-dr-dual-role-sights-prod45 006.aspx

Looks interesting enough to maybe get added (looks like there's even a 1.5-6x scope from the same brand)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 12 Jan 2014 05:51:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Reposted from the UC-1.13/DL-1.13/AFS request thread.

As http://world.guns.ru/smg/chex/skorpion-vz61-e.html states, "Scorpion SA Vz 68 - a rare version of the basic submachine gun produced for infantry use, chambered for 9x19 ammunition." Fixed

Page 97 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit stock Scorpion in 9mm Parabellum? Sounds like a perfect 'unique' find to me!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:23:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Pic was easy, might add it soon.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:05:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dext3r on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:07:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Could you add various lbe/clothing items? I would pay for it, i just don

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:13:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message "Various LBE/Clothing" ... can you narrow that down a little? AIMNAS includes half the catalogue of common gear shops and most LBE stuff that isn't available out of the box can be made with MOLLE ... so what do you actually want?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:38:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The only reasonable piece of LBE we don't already have is a MOLLE revolver holster, I think.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by MrFlibble on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:45:32 GMT

Page 98 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Is it planned to add subsonic type of ammunitions for even more suppression like the 147 gr. 9 x 19 ? There's already the Russian 9 x 39mm in game so what about adding rifles firing US Whisper cartridges ? I remember the day I messed a bit with a Vintorez (look on youtube) all you hear is the clicks of mechanism and barely the gas escaping it... at about 200 meters using the scope was yet a bit tricky since the bullets dropped pretty much at this distance ; but it's still supposed to be very accurate and deadly in the right hands.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Flugente on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:20:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Not going into details, but the amount of suppression generated is tied to the loudness of the gun and ammo. Suppression fire with silenced guns isn't that useful to begin with.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:23:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message FlugenteNot going into details, but the amount of suppression generated is tied to the loudness of the gun and ammo. Suppression fire with silenced guns isn't that useful to begin with.I'll assume more effective sound suppression here, not 'I shat my pants' suppression.

MrFlibbleIs it planned to add subsonic type of ammunitions for even more suppression like the 147 gr. 9 x 19 ? There's already the Russian 9 x 39mm in game so what about adding rifles firing US Whisper cartridges ? I remember the day I messed a bit with a Vintorez (look on youtube) all you hear is the clicks of mechanism and barely the gas escaping it... at about 200 meters using the scope was yet a bit tricky since the bullets dropped pretty much at this distance ; but it's still supposed to be very accurate and deadly in the right hands. Do people actually play / really look at the mod before making suggestions?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by MrFlibble on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:40:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Oh sorry, found (again) about cold loaded cartridges just after posting my message, so I suppose it is what refers to subsonic ammo... Though I believe that cold loaded cases to drop bullets subsonic will fail to cycle most gas mechanisms intended to operate at given pressure figures... So I will stick to the Whisper rounds part of my suggestion ; make it possible to convert some rifles/AR so they shoot Whisper ammunitions. At your disposal !

Page 99 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dext3r on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 19:00:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes, i want custom stuff which is for sure not included ; Various camo suits and uniforms(real ones, not fantasy), more specific real russian, british and german gear. If anyone who is able to add items(not functions) to the game is willing to add some write me a pm and i write an exact list back

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Jakub on Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:26:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well am wish to see Fal C2 , Machine Gun L4 ( Bern modyfited to 7.62*51 ) ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:42:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message One more rare toy. http://www.securityarms.com/firearm/4437

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:21:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message JakubWell am wish to see Fal C2 , Machine Gun L4 ( Bern modyfited to 7.62*51 ) ...

I just added the L4 along the 30 round mags.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Maalstroom on Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:08:26 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message look at this beauty smeagol http://uk.news.yahoo.com/trackingpoint-smart-rifles-aim-anyone-marksman-121800285.html#aTW ZuBp

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 18 Jan 2014 22:35:26 GMT

Page 100 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How would you even implement that, a cheating scope that gives you +100 cth?

Edit: The comments are, as usual, comedy gold ROFL

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:10:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I've read other reports on that by other reporters and they all said that it does indeed appear to do what the manufacturer claims it does. Now, the conclusions that that particular article draws are wrong, but that's the author's problem, not the machine's.

It probably wouldn't be interesting in the game... unless they were only found in the hands of Diedranna's palace guards with high-powered rifles

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Maalstroom on Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:59:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I would make it available as a random choice for all the idiots of the game, all the misfits and the outcasts so that it appears exactly where you don't expect... imagine elliot being a sharp shooter.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dyson on Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:46:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Smart Tracking Rifle Feature Video http://www.golem.de/news/scharfschuetzengewehr-smart-rifle-das-internet-der-toedlichen-dinge-1 401-104050.html

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by math3ws on Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:04:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DysonSmart Tracking Rifle Feature Video http://www.golem.de/news/scharfschuetzengewehr-smart-rifle-das-internet-der-toedlichen-dinge-1 401-104050.html

It has a wifi, and it can stream videos ROFL That is both hysterical and disturbing at the same time.

Page 101 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:17:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message In the chat I showed a German article about it to smeag and he said (what I do like very much)

NO GO

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Torres on Sat, 01 Feb 2014 17:54:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yep, MOLLE sniper mag and MOLLE revolver would be nice, also a MOLLE backpack would totally kick ass. (: (: (:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Fri, 07 Feb 2014 18:10:38 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Since Gasket speaks of Igor's Vodka and we only have Bourbon (Jim Beam) in game we should perhaps have

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dext3r on Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:20:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message So nobody wants to add some stuff to the game for money?...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Seven. on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:29:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Like this gun

It fires 12.7 ammo used in VSSK.

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:41:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Mother of god ...

Some more info: http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2 F%2Falternathistory.org.ua%2Frevolver-shturmovoi-rsh-12-127-mm

PS: Smeag, seems you need to change the VSSK caliber, whoever first came up with that labeled it x97 rather than x55.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:15:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrot PS: Smeag, seems you need to change the VSSK caliber, whoever first came up with that labeled it x97 rather than x55.

According to Wiki, the 97 is the overall length of the round. But the caliber indeed seems to be officially named as 12.7x55.

Might change it... that revolver seems quite bad ass... any more information on it available?

Is the 12.7x55 the same as used in the ASh-12.7? It's listed as 12.7x55 as well, though I'm not sure if the cartridges are interchangeable. Information on it is still rather difficult to get (as is getting a good pic).

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:46:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes, going by the google translated article I linked, the revolver, the AR and the SR all use the same round. As for the naming, metric declaration is always caliber x case, I haven't seen any that use overall length as the second figure.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Seven. on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:47:45 GMT

Page 103 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Most of the info goes from here ( in russian ) http://oruzheika.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=120

It's a new weapon, and is available only for special forces, so not much info But it looks big and evil :pitchfork:

Caliber: 12,7x55 capacity: 5 size: 357x53x159 weight: 2,2 kg available ammo: PS-12A - light high-speed bullet, effective distance up to 100m PD-12 - light, duplex PS-12 - heavy bullet PS-12b - AP SC-130 - sniper, same as used in VSSK

Fires from lowest chamber. Effective distance (supposed to be) 300m Accepts all kinds of 'attachments' - silencer, laser, flashlighs, sights and scopes, front grip (probably), detachable stock, picatinny rail.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:55:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, you got 2 rails to work with so anything goes, really. And if it can indeed be suppressed, this thing could be a monster in the hands of a Gunslinger merc.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:36:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thing is, that supposedly (at least according to this site ) the 12.7x55 used in the AR and in the VSK are different.

Also this site states, that both guns use different kinds of bullets.

And I suppose, that the revolver uses the kind of bullets the AR uses.

Page 104 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:53:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Interesting. So much cool stuff in the east, always makes me regret picking the easy route (useless French)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sat, 08 Feb 2014 14:04:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Gotta wonder what kind of special forces would use something like that. Special anti-bear ops?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:30:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A bunch of new items I just added:

ASh-12.7 (added the 12.7x55 as a new ammo type, as it seems to be different from the subsonic 12.7x55)

Daewoo K11 (plus the aiming module as seperate item, uses same launcher and grenades as the OICW, though)

HK MP5K PDW (long overdue, also added a RAS version)

HK G11 LMG

Also reworking ammo items to show different amount of bullets for easier mag size recognition (probably mostly useless due to ammo being displayed anyways, but I thought it would be a nice visual).

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:44:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

And new 12.7x55mm mags for the ASh-12.7 (SAP, also added the duplex rounds). Once a better pic of that bear-hunter revolver is available, I'll add that as well. Same goes for the ST Kinetics SSW, somehow there's still no good side view pic for it available. So, if someone stumbles across a decent looking sideview pic of this gun drop me a line:

ST Kinetics SSW (5.7mm SMG with a 40mm grenade launcher unit)

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:23:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message AFS also had STK SSW. Maybe wil remembers where he got the image for the weapon.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Mon, 10 Feb 2014 21:38:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message this page maybe can be usefull for you http://www.firearmsworld.net/sweden/ssw/ssw.htm

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Wed, 12 Feb 2014 04:06:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Kel-Tec RFB sharpshooter is now available, though the only difference from the base model is the 24" barrel. Not too exciting.

The Center Balanced Rifle bullpup conversion for the Saiga-12 could be interesting. http://www.cbrps.com/Saiga.html

Page 106 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Chiappa Firearms makes clones of the Winchester 1887 lever-action shotgun, both full-size and chop-stock, also in rifled slugger configuration http://chiappafirearms.com/products/82 The Chiappa Rhino revolver is also an interesting piece, I think it was the first Western-made revolver to shoot from the bottom cylinder. http://chiappafirearms.com/products/75

This was on the 'guns I'd like to see added' in the regular 1.13 section, but I thought I'd point it out here for those who haven't seen it yet. The Crye 12-Six appears to be a semi-automatic, cylinder-fed underbarrel shotgun, also to be made in standalone weapon format. It's a very interesting looking weapon, but I don't think the actual operating details are known yet - does the cylinder detach completely, or does it swing out like a revolver? http://kitup.military.com/2014/01/crye-precision-offer-high-tech.html

The ASh-12.7mm makes me severely conflicted - on one hand, I am a huge fan of Bill Alexander and I believe his .50 Beowulf is the superior high-caliber short-action semi-automatic rifle round. On the other hand, I strongly believe that the bullpup pattern is superior and is the future of most infantry weapons.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:55:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Since 9mm rifles are pretty uncommon... http://chiappafirearms.com/product/2679

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Bidius on Wed, 05 Mar 2014 16:27:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://soldiersystems.net/2013/11/11/hcar-bar-21st-century/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvEb4PzSfx0

B.A.R. stepping into the 21st century.

Would be a great addition, more .30-06 weapons is always a plus, especially if they're not just another bolt action rifle.

Make it happen Smeag, you know you want it.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 06 Mar 2014 07:35:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Interesting gun, unfortunately no good sideview pics around yet. The one I found turned out as very white-greyish when reduced in size and looked very awkward.

Page 107 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I'll keep my eyes open, maybe a better pic will show up on the net someday...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:35:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message My grandfather was a BAR man in the war. I wonder what he'd think about those whipper-snappers rebuilding it with titanium and newfangled scope rails.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Anthropoid on Fri, 07 Mar 2014 00:18:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotHow would you even implement that, a cheating scope that gives you +100 cth?

Edit: The comments are, as usual, comedy gold ROFL

I particularly liked this one, but couldn't be bothered to create a Yahoo account to post my response:

Toggle SpoilerQuote:Why an society not put its effort and resources into something other than how to kill each other. This really sucks.

Because those societies that didn't put enough effort into how to kill each other got killed off. :laugh:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Bidius on Fri, 14 Mar 2014 01:32:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/autoloading-rifles/fnar-standard/

Here's another B.A.R. remake for ya, side view ready to go and all, It's chambered in .308. I'm sorry if you've already included this, I'm not in front of a computer that has AIMNAS.

I'm prepared to code and do the graphics if you want Smeag, I've got a bit of time once I get back.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Jakub on Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:56:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 108 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit So am wish to see :

Tokarev TWB 40 - This is Russian rifle what works on 7.62*54 from war II is also very popular in Canada as hunting rifle .

PSL - This Sniper rifle could be good for Arulco " police " troops too there are there are two versions 7.62 *51 & 7.62 * 54 . PSL is weaker than SVD less accurate ...

Question : Did somebody will adds some " Night armour " & changes magazines adapter to use 30 rounds magazines on Fal OSW ?

Saiga rifles can works with 20 round magazine too so did somebody could changes this rifle ?

Thanks for AIMNAS mod is great ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:35:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Alexander Arms Ulfberht .338 sniper rifle is coming into production soon, looks somewhat interesting. Only right-side photos on the official site though, annoyingly. http://alexanderarms.com/products/ulfberht http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Ulfberht_338_Lapua_Magnum_Rifle.html

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tanelorn on Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:13:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message You included the vz52. Got it in-game. Thanks. You are awesome. -edit- And the carcano! Rooftop shooting!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:53:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Glock candy.

Page 109 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by delta_six on Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:27:06 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I am not sure if it have been posted in before, but this is one remarkable design. Probably introducing it would be tricky, if not impossible due to its caliber feature.

Phillips & Rodgers Medusa M-47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNoDR1MMCQ

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 25 Apr 2014 18:50:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Interesting yes, doable... probably not. Would require a lot of transformation items, adding new ammo items for 9mm and you would not get the ab ability to actually mix different caliber types.

So, unfortunately, no way to actually add it.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:37:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Totally not a joke.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:04:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagolEven the .338 Lapua MG is already overkill.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:43:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I myself do like the idea of adding the Kord MG. It's severe overkill, but the ultramacho nonsense of it would be perfect for some of the mercenaries.

Page 110 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:58:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Having Stogie fire something like that one-handed would just make my day. FLOP, collapse.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Bidius on Sun, 04 May 2014 13:06:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Smeag, I present to you, The H.C.A.R.

It's just too perfect a merc weapon to pass up IMO.

Coupled with its own sounds, It makes for a lovely present to Boss, or Stogie. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wkumn31y9by0of/HCAR.7z

And the code for easy interpolation.

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5100 HCAR H.C.A.R. This modernized version of the BAR is known as the Heavy Combat Assault Rifle. It takes the .30-06 Cartridge into the 21st Century With the help of Hydraulics in the stock to reduce recoil, but increase service toil. H.C.A.R. This modernized version of the BAR is known as the Heavy Combat Assault Rifle. BAR for the 21st Century, Along with all the complexity that the 21st century has to offer. The Hydraulics in the stock work with your shoulder to ensure accuracy even under full auto. Extra hydraulic fluid not included. 2 5100 3 817 54 224 5800 5 6 -4 1 1

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The Item.

5100 HCAR 3 6 46 11 12.8 7 22 45 49 3 30 1100 200 100 90 8 504 132 111 104 110 157 16 3 26 1 13 8 476 62 1 4 5 14 4000 5000 30

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6093 .30-06 Ammo, 30 AP .30-06 Ammo, 30 AP 30 rounds of .30-06 ammuntion for your H.C.A.R. .30-06 Ammo, 30 AP Not for sale. 1024 1022 2 481 8 4 668 300 3 1 1 1 100

6098 .30-06 Ammo, 30 HP .30-06 Ammo, 30 HP 30 rounds of .30-06 ammuntion for your H.C.A.R. .30-06 Ammo, 30 HP Not for sale. 1024 1023 2 482 8 4 668 180 3 1 1 100

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6103 .30-06 Ammo, 30 M .30-06 Ammo, 30 Match 30 rounds of .30-06 ammuntion for your H.C.A.R. .30-06 Ammo, 30 Match Not for sale. 1024 1021 2 483 8 4 668 450 5 1 1 120 100

6108 .30-06 Ammo, 30 T .30-06 Ammo, 30 Tracer 30 rounds of .30-06 ammuntion for your H.C.A.R. .30-06 Ammo, 30 Tracer Not for sale. 1024 1024 2 484 8 4 668 450 4 1 1 -10 2

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6113 .30-06 Ammo, 30 XP3 .30-06 Ammo, 30 XP3 The XP3 bullet starts with a 2-stage expansion design, then combines all the best-known bullet technology into one bullet. It delivers precision accuracy, awesome knockdown power, and deep penetration all in one package. .30-06 Ammo, 30 XP3 Not for sale. 1024 1025 2 485 8 4 668 900 3 -2 1 1 1 40 10 2 100

The Magazine Items, which fit cozily above their respective 20rnd BAR mags.

XXXX 46 30 18 0

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XXXX 46 30 39 0

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XXXX 46 30 46 0

And finally, the Mags themselves, sorry about the numbering on them, I've added mags to fix up the .44 Trapper to hold 11 rounds that were just above these. I'm sure you've added other mags yourself for the new summer update. I'm just hoping to scoot this into the door, and make it as headache free as possible for you Smeag.

SOUNDS\WEAPONS\30M1\30-06 HCAR Single Shot.ogg SOUNDS\WEAPONS\30M1\30-06 HCAR Burst %d.ogg

If you'll be using the sounds (Which I hope you do!)

I'll be fixing up the bigItem files, giving them borders to more suite the style of JA2 vanilla items, but for now these are good (I think).

I also have a Marlin Guide Gun if you're interested, It's just a new toy for Leech.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 11 May 2014 06:42:46 GMT

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Silly.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 11 May 2014 07:21:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Can we stick to actual weapons rather than your artistic impressions? There's enough silliness out there, go find it ya lazy bum

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 11 May 2014 08:33:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Awww, but I wanna be the scifi guy!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Azure_Repeater on Sun, 11 May 2014 11:21:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Since the M134 is overkill, how about adding the Mk19 Grenade Launcher? It's overkill. :diabolical: :crossbones:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 11 May 2014 11:43:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message If you read this thread, there's probably an analysis by yours truly as to why an AGL is a completely different order of overkill to any MG, however fast firing.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sat, 17 May 2014 12:02:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about the .44 AutoMag? Infamous for being terribly unreliable... but it looks cool as tits. Find it in the used section of BR, buy it, curse every other round being a misfeed. Aw yeah.

Maybe one of the long barrel variants? Good for... hunting. :whistle:

Page 118 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Azure_Repeater on Sat, 17 May 2014 12:17:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about the Stoner 63 (5.56x45mm)? I'd like to see it in action

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Tue, 20 May 2014 06:12:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The High Standard Model 10.

Vintage, compact, blasty goodness.

And the Kel-Tec SU-16. Fairly cheap, seems to work well.

Then there's this thing. Kel-Tec Sub-2000. Simple rifle you can fold away and stow in your large pocket. Oh, and as Hickok states, it's not very loud plus it's easy to use.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Tue, 27 May 2014 20:09:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Double post for 9mm justice.

Marlin Camp 9. Seems I've got a thing for 9mm semi-auto carbines.

A Sub-2000 and Camp 9 video. Handy.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Wed, 28 May 2014 18:46:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message There's the Ruger MP9, which isn't too special except that it was designed by Uziel Gal. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/ruger-mp9-e.html

Basically an Uzi mk2 - polymer frame, improved folding stock, more accurate.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by KonTheDon on Fri, 30 May 2014 09:32:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 119 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I had an interesting Idea today. What about some flying drones? Its similary to the roboter ingame. You need a merc who controls the drone and you can fly with it all over the map to scout for the enemies and their position. And of course its stealth, so the enemies only notice it when its nearly above them. We all know this thing: http://media.salon.com/2011/10/drone.jpg and modern specials forces use some smaller drones to detect the position of the enemies. if someone knows the movie Act of Valor, you unterstand better what i mean. its called AeroVironment RQ-11 Raven http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/RQ-11_Raven_2.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIFtvD_bi0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcerPCn3MlA

Well i have my problems to add some simple weapons to the mod, but maybe you can add this.

Thank you!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Eso1 on Sat, 31 May 2014 09:14:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message WHAT ABOUT A GUN THAT SHOOTS A COMPLETE FINISHED VERSION OF THE MOD?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by lockie on Sun, 01 Jun 2014 20:04:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It'll probably be called a banhammer Seriously , smeagol may never finish the mod , so be happy with what you got !

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Azure_Repeater on Sat, 07 Jun 2014 22:07:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Eso1 WHAT ABOUT A GUN THAT SHOOTS A COMPLETE FINISHED VERSION OF THE MOD?

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Smeagol has been very busy with real-life work, so don't expect him to finish this mod by 2014.

Page 120 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit He may finish this mod by 2015? 2016? 2017? or even late...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:13:20 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about a hacksaw for those pesky long rifles and shotguns. Snip snip. Master gunsmithing.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Wed, 11 Jun 2014 11:54:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Actually I have considered it, tbh...

I mean, there is already a sawed-off shotgun and a sawed-off remington m870...

But adding a saw item would probably mean, that a few people would actually ask for chopped off guns all over the place, which would mean a lot extra work... might add it, might not... really depends on motivation and time at hand.

The idea is not completely out, though.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Wed, 11 Jun 2014 12:44:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Gotta draw the line somewhere. All up to you, but I'd stick to old rifles and fairly simple shotguns. Apply twice to chop off both ends. Yeow!

It'd probably be better to just make it a Saw/File combo. Helps smooth out some rough edges... in more ways than one.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gambigobilla on Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:14:40 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message i want a sawed-off knife, or better sawed-off saw!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests

Page 121 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by Griffinhart on Fri, 20 Jun 2014 02:18:51 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Couple of requests, hope no one minds.

ROCK SOPMOD M14 - battle rifle, 7.62x51mm NATO. 20-round detachable box magazine. Very rare weapon - only approximately 30-40 of these were ever produced. At the time, they were going for ~2500USD for a conversion (ship your gun to Troy Industries, they'd ship it back to you as a SOPMOD), or around 3500USD for a new gun (as part of a group buy). Has a redesigned gas system (compared to an original M14/M1A). http://www.defensereview.com/rock-sopmod-m14-commando-carbine-by-troy-industries-inc/

Barrett XM500 - anti-materiel rifle, .50 BMG. 10-round detachable box magazine. It's a lighter, bullpup M107, basically. Has a stationary barrel (as opposed to the M107's recoiling barrel). http://www.defensereview.com/barrett-firearms-introduces-bullpup-semi-auto-50-bmg-anti-materie lsniper-rifle/

Barrett XM109 - anti-materiel rifle, 25x59mm (reconfigurable back to .50 BMG). 5-round detachable box magazine. Known as either the Objective Sniper Weapon or Payload Rifle, designed to engage light-armored vehicles out to 2km. The lower receiver is an M107, and the upper is chambered in 25mm (the same as used in the XM307 crew-served weapon). http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m109-ampr.htm

-- Griffinhart

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tanelorn on Mon, 30 Jun 2014 07:08:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 122 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit I know it has been requested before,I know that it is part of other mods already, I know that the (heavy, problematic,select fire) Simonov AVS36 that preceded it is already in aimnas. Most of all I know that every new addition to the mod pushes back the release date. But still, please consider including one of the 1,600,000 semiauto Tokarev SVT40. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW90aOEQSrE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVT-40

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Tue, 08 Jul 2014 18:50:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just added the SVT-40.

First item in about 4 month... finally time to do some modding again.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 07:36:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Added the H.C.A.R..

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tanelorn on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:03:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Thank you. On a side note (and this is not a request, because these are extremely rare= restricted to Kim-Jong-Un's personal bodyguards), have you seen these: 150 round 5.45x39mm helical magazines for type88, the top folding North Korean AK74 copy. http://www.armamentresearch.com/north-korean-helical-ak-magazines/

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Pepper79 on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:27:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message My suggestions:

Ruger Gun Scout Rifle:

Page 123 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit It's a bolt action rifle with 10 round magazine in 7.62 Nato.

Zastava PAP

Semi-automatic sporting rifle in 7.62x39, comes with a 10 round magazine, well I know there are already a bunch of AK clones, but this one is kind of unique.

Zastava M2010, it is availabe in .222, .233, .308 and .243 and comes with a 10 round magazine.

Can't decide which one I would prefer, the later might be of interest since it is available in various calibres.

Pleter 91

Selfmade Croatian SMG in 9mm, kind of exotic weapon.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:47:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message the ruger actually looks interesting, as well as that 7.62mm SMG. Anymore infos on that gun available?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Pepper79 on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:05:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message You mean the Jelen TT SMG? I think these are all more or less homemade weapons from the Yugoslavian civil war, the weapons are called after the towns where they were built if I remember correctly. Only found that: http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/36/198033.html

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by theBrain on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:11:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The Jelen 7.62? To me it looks like a sawed off version of the PPSh 41.

The Ruger is actually a nice, handy and LIGHT rifle. Haven't shot it yet, but it's definately an interesting weapon.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Jean Luc Picard on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:20:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Maybe this one is also a good idea?!

PP-58 FNF/A 4x rocket launcher or

M202 Flash ( Flame Assault Shoulder Weapon ) 66mm

Wikipedia

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:37:19 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Looks like the M202 Flash, which is already in.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Pepper79 on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:21:18 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message theBrainThe Jelen 7.62? To me it looks like a sawed off version of the PPSh 41.

Page 125 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit The Ruger is actually a nice, handy and LIGHT rifle. Haven't shot it yet, but it's definately an interesting weapon.

That makes sense, it reminded me of the Fallout 3 shotgun which is actually a PPSh 41 clone:

In lack of real pictures one might draw/merge together that Jelen SMG with pictures of Fallout 3? Just an idea.

Found more on the the Jelen SMG: http://popgun.ru/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=15072&start=120

It actually seems to be a cut down PPSh 41 with a Pistol grip instead a wooden stock.

If anybody is member there: http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1561

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tanelorn on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:29:46 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I would second the inclusion of balkan firearms like the Jelen, since it fits the backstory of Deidrana herself being Romanian.

A weapon uniquely Romanian would be the PSL/SSG-97 designated marksman rifle. It is somewhat of a cross between the RPK LMG/Zastava M76 (mechanics) and the SVD (aesthetics and caliber- 762x54R)though inferior to either, due to manufacture and its thin profile, long barel.

PSL_(rifle) And if all the above didn't sell you on the idea, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Noo2HNj5vM (please don't shoot the messenger) edit- interesting how she has a picatinny rail on the usual AK side bracket dovetail, and a more powerful optic mounted on that.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:34:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_69_RPG

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:46:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Type 69 RPG is already in.

Tigr might be interesting (especially the 9.3x64 one).

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:54:44 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message ups sorry

Illumination Grenade: Equipped with a small parachute to suspend it in mid air while being used, its effective range is 600m with the braking ring and 1,500m without it. this is aviable for type 69 rpg

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tanelorn on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:57:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A cricket bat @ the Ricci mansion in Balime, next to the golf clubs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65jZrLo0q4[/video]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:32:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'd love to add more melee weapons (trench mace or handaxe for example), but unless we get

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Having the baseball bat use the punch anim just looks stupid.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:44:31 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://imzcorp.com/en/company/99.html

http://imzcorp.com/en/company/69.html

http://imzcorp.com/en/company/317.html

these offering wide choice in caliber[posted here just to show]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:33:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Added 3 tigr rifles: regular 7.62x54R:

.308:

9.3x64:

Page 128 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Pepper79 on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:32:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I have some more suggestions:

Zastava M21 SMG in 5.56x45mm

CZ 805, modern Czech assault rifle in 5.56x45mm

CZ 512, a semi automatic sporting rifle in .22lr, I don't know if it makes sense to add more civilian rifles to the game though, maybe these rifles should be placed at farms or in villages early in the game to make sense.

Vektor R4 or R5 or R6, I want a South African assault rifle so badly, but it's difficult to find good pictures.

(please tell me when I post too much, I do not expect you to make all or even one of the guns, just want to provide ideas)

PS: as for the discussion about the StG 44 and the efforts to put it in the game due the ammunition, the bullet is still manufactured in Serbia, only in one version (FMJ BT - whatever this means): http://www.prvipartizan.com/rifle_ammo.php

So it would not be that much effort to put it in the game if you provide only one type of ammunition, I ripped a StG 44 from another mod in my installation, which wasn't much effort.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:50:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Ruger MP9. Because Ruger.

Page 129 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:09:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Pepper79PS: as for the discussion about the StG 44 and the efforts to put it in the game due the ammunition, the bullet is still manufactured in Serbia, only in one version (FMJ BT - whatever this means): http://www.prvipartizan.com/rifle_ammo.php

So it would not be that much effort to put it in the game if you provide only one type of ammunition, I ripped a StG 44 from another mod in my installation, which wasn't much effort. That discussion is outdated, StG is in by now.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:22:08 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message It frightens me to think about it, but given reasonable conditions (no swarms of mechanically similar service rifles, no more exotic calibers, no unusual magazine sizes) we may be running out of guns.

I may have already suggested the BU870 bullpup conversion kit for the Remington 870, but other than that almost everything I can think of would require a new caliber (6.5mm Grendel and .400 Cor-Bon being my favorites).

Did we ever get pocket .45s? There's the mini-Glock and the Springfield XDS, probably a Kahr or two. The Springfield XDM full-size would be kind of nice too, but it's mostly just a more accurate HS2000.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:43:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'd usually question the effectiveness of pocket pistols, but with covert ops there may indeed be room for a full range of CC guns. But yeah, it sucks that all the manufacturers seem to 'innovate' these days are yet more quad-rail AR's

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:50:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Good thing we've got an entire cold war worth of guns to choose from still. So, a spy pistol

Page 130 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit wouldn't need much range but really should be able to penetrate armor. Can't say I know much about pocket protectors (hurr hurr) but there's bound to be something like that out there, right?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:53:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well, those are usually fine for what they are, but I appreciate what you're getting at. Most of the interesting stuff coming out of the modern arsenal that isn't already in the game would be hard to program in.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:01:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Worst thing about the cold war is that all the really wacky guns (i.e. the interesting ones) only exist in one faded, 3/4 black and white shot or a technical sketch if you're lucky. The rest is mentioned only.

And yeah, I get that the modern rifles are totally practical and nice products if you're actually looking to get one. However, they suck as inspiration for a game

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:09:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Do we have the Chauchaut? Doesn't get much wackier than that... We'd need to add 8mm Lebel, but it was an excellent cartridge for its day, and would justify adding some actually good rifles to go along with it.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sat, 12 Jul 2014 02:32:49 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Show me some of those if you got em, Depri. Might be able to draw up some real scifi.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 12 Jul 2014 05:57:32 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

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http://www.orl-llc.com/SD_Projects/MP45SD/index.htm

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 12 Jul 2014 10:43:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Adding Marlin Camp Carbines in .45ACp and 9mm.

.45ACP:

9x19mm:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:58:43 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Pretty sure those made it into production at some point. Seen some 51-b's around at least. I was more thinking about some schematics showing new/reworked weapon ideas. Something to illustrate and make up some alternate history for.

@smeagol :cheers:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 21:16:16 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Well slax, there's stuff like the HK 25 or the Gordon close support weapon system. Though if there's interest we should make a new thread for all the crazy stuff that has no chance in any mod.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 21:24:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 132 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit mp5 sd .45 acp http://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/bond-arms/texas-defender-derringer-40sw-3in-2rd-stain less/ nice litle hand canon caliber .40

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 22:20:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotWell slax, there's stuff like the HK 25 or the Gordon close support weapon system. Though if there's interest we should make a new thread for all the crazy stuff that has no chance in any mod. New stuff is probably a good idea, yeah. Pics or links also help.

How about a hand crossbow? Can be folded to save size. About as big as a large machine pistol (if folded), real stealthy.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:21:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about this ? oc for a German merc.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:10:00 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Just because I like the idea of finding rare variants of already existing weapons... LjaBuUb-6rk[/video]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:23:52 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 133 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit since Smeagol did so much for ouer Eastern European gun pornografi.. nerds shoulden't he do somthing for our Japanese friends ?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:27:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message 7.62X39 130gr http://www.republic-arms.com/glaser.html glaser safety slug for your akm https://www.tpoutdoors.com/p-21257-glsr-05600-bl-762x39-130gr-6pk.aspx http://www.outdoorgearbarn.com/p-8328-ammo-762x39-rus-80-grain-pre-fragmented-bullet-6-rou nds.aspx#.U8q3dLG3PUh

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:51:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message oc we do not only need the weapon , but also Glaser ammo 4 it

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by tais on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:42:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Gorro der Gr

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 19:45:50 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message No but real BEARds

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 20:17:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message eco green ammo can be usefull in early stage of game ... btw i have links for some solid hp in

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 20:19:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message do You also have users who are interested in it?

beside Yourself oc :blackcat: :taskmaster:

Edith: " perhaps we should have this as THE defauled attachement of the Royal Arulcan Forces"

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:19:02 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message almost every weapon in mod have glaser safety ammo,so why not for ak type rifle's ? i just asking here for posible item in mod.. this item exist in real ...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:25:21 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message it's NO FUN to have everything for all, You demand, and demand ....

We do have only one real modder, BUT with Your demands You may strangle, torture his mod

THAN You tweak it al to

NOT RECOGNISABLE and say

GREAT MOD , THANK YOU SMEAG

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sun, 20 Jul 2014 02:25:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Gorro needs his binky :cheers:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 20 Jul 2014 05:29:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enuHBqt6Tp4[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzmY7gXguuQ[/video]

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Nasenbaer on Sun, 20 Jul 2014 06:46:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message In my opinion AIMNAS has already a perfect number of guns. There is really no need for further ones! One is already changing its weapons and ammo after every four or five battles... The only thing that mod needs are maps, maps and maps. I am totally with gorro! We should not demand any further guns from smeagol.

@smeagol: How can we help you finishing this awesome piece of work on an awesome mod?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Dr.Doof on Mon, 21 Jul 2014 08:51:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message True!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:15:57 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Adding items is way easier than making maps.

If I find something interesting enough, special enough or something really necessary, I will of course add it.

I would not outrule adding Glaser (and finally cold loaded AP/HP) for the WP calibers, they just didn't seem necessary yet.

There is space for that stuff in the xml, and adding ammo items with only a few mag sizes is pretty much simple... (as long as noone wants more 9mm, 12 gauge or .45 ACP ammo types for example...).

Might add it, might not add it... who knows...

Sure, more maps are always welcome and of course what everyone is waiting for, but new maps are also what takes up the most time (I expect at least a week for each of the missing city sectors, if not longer... Grumm, Cambria and Alma are almost next bigger projects and I just don't have the time right now... I did however finish four wilderness maps for the sumemr release within a couple of days, so there is hope, that I continue mapping... just not at the same pace I used to map... fear not, AIMNAS bigmaps will get finished at some given point in the future... it might take a few more

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:09:12 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message A few interesting things I came across:

Airtronic Mk777, improved RPG-7 clone, carbon fiber construction brings mass under 4kg. http://airtronic.net/datasheets/mk777.pdf

AK-compatible M203 underbarrel grenade launcher - fire NATO grenades from AK-type rifles http://airtronic.net/datasheets/m203ak47.pdf

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:58:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message not request just asking if this interesting.

more info & images is on this site in french http://littlegun.be/arme%20belge/fn/a%20fn%20barracuda%20fr.htm

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Wed, 23 Jul 2014 04:23:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message This thing seems pretty cool. Figure something like it would fit in the hands of early Arulcan attack forces. Schmeisser MK.36 III SMG

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:37:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagol:thank you,for your explaination & patience ...

Page 138 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:30:39 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message special rifle for tough guys

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Pepper79 on Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:10:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message After looking around in some other mods, there are hardly any weapons left to suggest reasonably, Urban Chaos contains some Zastavas and also some civilian rifles.

I still would vote for the Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle since it connects two worlds, an old fashioned bolt action rifle yet with modern picatinny rails, a 10 round magazine also appears to be unique for a bolt action rifle, it is further quite compact.

I would also like to see an Eastern German M56 helmet: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401944 http://cascosdecombate.foroactivo.com/t77-casco-m-56-rdahistoria-y-desarrollo

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:23:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:11:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smealgol:exist any chance add in some microcaliber guns ?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Pepper79 on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:19:20 GMT

Page 139 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagol thats great, can't wait to see it ingame

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:20:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Adding some iconic old school helmets as well...

Vietnam era m1 US helmet:

WW2 M1942 helmet:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:38:34 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Hahaa, figured the nazi pot would show up! Maybe the Arulcan mires will reveal antique secrets if someone brings a metal detector...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:03:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxMaybe the Arulcan mires will reveal antique secrets if someone brings a metal detector...[/size]

I'm actually working on such things at this very moment...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by waSchtl on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:17:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 140 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit smeagol[I'm actually working on such things at this very moment...

For Chitzena or for what it is to use?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:24:10 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The idea is, that you can go treasure hunting, Dr. Jones...

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 13:57:30 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Good ol' Micky O'Brien might pay handsomely for those.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:03:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message That's the idea.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:09:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message *Cough* Add a fedora.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 18:03:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0MBAaiNPrk[/video]

Page 141 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit nice & rare for revolver in this caliber[10mm auto]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:52:47 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I want to melt it. Thats the thing all the idiots melting it and make bars

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:07:04 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Slax*Cough* Add a fedora.grin

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:12:24 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message just asking,how about this ? http://inert-ord.net/ger03a/gerhgr/m39/index.html [mod39]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:48:48 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message M39 grenades might be interesting...

Actually I'm currently adding a bit more WW1 stuff:

Brodie Mk. 1:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Mon, 28 Jul 2014 06:11:53 GMT

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Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Gorro der Grüne on Mon, 28 Jul 2014 06:34:42 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Stahlhelm Model 1916 French and German

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by waSchtl on Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:14:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The French Helmet looks great :smilingsoldier:

Make this Item with the same rust as shown on the image!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by waldtroll on Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:48:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Did you consider adding a multitool? Something like this could act as a combination of an utility knife and a wire cutter. We have sooo manny guns, but so few wire cutters

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 14 Aug 2014 09:35:45 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yes, adding multi-tools was considered. It was never done because of the fact that it pretty much would make utility knife, lockpicking kit and wire cutter pretty much useless. But thanks to the possibility to add values to skill modifiers now, adding a multi-tool might actually be viable.

Reconsidering it, thanks for posting.

Page 143 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Torres on Fri, 15 Aug 2014 04:20:54 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagolSlax*Cough* Add a fedora.grin

Seems that now we just need a whip and a few nazis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs[/video]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Tue, 19 Aug 2014 23:20:55 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Looks like a full-auto variant of the PMR-30 was around at some point in time. O6GxFws8B7k[/video] Seems like a neat limited edition toy.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Sat, 23 Aug 2014 22:14:28 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I found... a thing.

Two things!

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Slax on Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:56:29 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Dunno if you can buff hip-fire accuracy with mods, but if you can... http://www.armoryblog.com/gun-gear-reviews/mossberg-500-chainsaw-review/

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Nasenbaer on Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:04:17 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message yeah, this would be a really nice feature - when possible...

Page 144 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:27:05 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please it is a posible adding this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkvwCygvzBs[/video]

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:57:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message SlaxDunno if you can buff hip-fire accuracy with mods, but if you can... http://www.armoryblog.com/gun-gear-reviews/mossberg-500-chainsaw-review/

Chainsaw handle would indeed be a neat item for hip-firing.

Thing is, there currently is no modifier for hip shooting under NCTH.

If I`m right about this, hip firing is kind of a firing mode and not a stance. NCTH checks for stance, so adding these is more than just copy paste of code (Note that also the description box would need a 4th column for hip-firing mode... urgh).

As much as I like the item, I think adding modifiers for hip firing mode is just not worth it for 1 item... :/

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Flugente on Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:59:33 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Yep, it is a firing mode.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Schneider8 on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 13:25:56 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Tactical Vz.58 would be nice. The FAB defense company manufactures RIS handguard, ergonomic handle and nice stocks. Some stocks have absorbers built inside. Maybe you can make it? Looks like this:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests

Page 145 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Posted by x4nPro on Thu, 11 Sep 2014 04:50:36 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I'm requesting a multi caliber sniper rifle

-> Nemesis Arms Vanquish

Due to multi cal. could be very usefull on the battlefield.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by delta_six on Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:16:53 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message How about Gilboa Snake?

Toggle Spoiler

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:23:07 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Cool gun. Not sure yet how to add it, but it looks interesting enough to give it a shot.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Uriens on Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:06:27 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message That gun looks awesome. :scary:

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by delta_six on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 04:21:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message If it helps - the gun basically represents two guns combined together. Two triggers, two gas pistons, two feeding magazines. Just in case if it helps to find a workaround implementing its feature as some kind of firing mode, or making loading method similar to grenade launchers but with magazines. You know better. http://www.gunsandammo.com/video/first-look-gilboa-snake-double-barrel-ar-15/

Page 146 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:54:41 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Depends if you take the civvie or the fun version as a basis. For the latter, high cap mag and no singleshot (but burst) should do it. Barring oddities in the firemodes code.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:25:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrotFor the latter, high cap mag and no singleshot (but burst) should do it. Barring oddities in the firemodes code.

And there is the problem, as I don't see a way to make a gun without singleshot. Afaik, single shot is a must have.

Using a workaround with ammo type manipulation (sort of like duplex rounds) could do, but would be really awkward, as it would require a ton of transformation/merges, as the gun uses two seperate magazines in a calibre that's already in and you want to be able to transform back etc.

The underbarrel gun solution would kinda work, but only if you want to cycle through the guns seperately. Firing from both barrels at the same time wouldn't be possible.

Maybe something like doubled rate of fire plkus an added 2 round burst could work... but still... all just evil hacks and no really clean solution.

And from what I've heard, a certain prodigy coder won't touch this, as he really dislikes the concept of this gun (let alone NMS, which I also dislike, btw).

So... as cool as this gun is, probably not going to happen any time soon.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:33:09 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message smeagolAnd there is the problem, as I don't see a way to make a gun without singleshot. Afaik, single shot is a must have.A dozen or so machineguns disagree. Now making a burst mode without singleshot would be a novum and may cause issues.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:42:13 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 147 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit DepressivesBrotA dozen or so machineguns disagree. Now making a burst mode without singleshot would be a novum and may cause issues.

Having "full auto only" or "burst and full auto" is still a difference xml wise.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:21:03 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message The LSAT prototype lightweight LMG has passed limited field tests and has a lot of interesting features. It uses special ammunition, but I think it may be interesting enough to warrant addition anyway, perhaps in the sci-fi arsenal. http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gearscout/2012/11/07/lsat-the-9-pound-lmg/?repeat=w3tc

The ammunition uses a hexogen-based propellant rather than nitrocellulose, which means it can be much more compact for the same amount of chemical energy. The resulting reduction in case size means the ammunition is much lighter.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by wolf00 on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:57:58 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message please if it is posible:some revolver in caliber .22 lr or .22wmr can be nice on early game. 10g or .410 shotgun can be nice .. vince:for me is more interesting machinegun in .300 black out or 6.8 spc ..

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:32:23 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message If I understand properly - and I admit I say this as someone who has never served in an armed force - .300 Blackout would not be suitable for a true machine gun. I mean, one could certainly build one, but it's tactically self-defeating since subsonic projectiles would reduce suppression effectiveness by being too quiet.

6.8 SPC would be all right, except as someone who appreciates the superior efficiency of 6.5mm Grendel, the 6.8mm is my sworn enemy.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by DepressivesBrot on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:32:25 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message

Page 148 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Subsonic projectiles are still plenty loud unless you actually suppress the platform. Besides, there are supersonic loads that aim for the infamous 'somewhere between 556 and 762' niche.

Now on to candidates (there already is a 6.8mm in the mod btw, smeag made a homebrew a few years back): DS Arms RPD in 6.8mm, semi and FA variants: http://blogs.militarytimes.com/gearscout/2012/05/25/dsarms-rpd-carbine/ http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/foghorn/ds-arms-now-producing-rpd-carbine-in-6-8/

Ares Shrike: 6.8, .300 and WP variants in research/prototyping stage are mentioned on what appears to be their corporate yt channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Gfho2qtwY

MGA SAW Gen-3, essentially legitimizing the aforementioned bastard Minimi: http://www.machinegunarmory.com/military_firearms.html (also available in .300)

Mk 46 again, modified by Noveske for .300 http://www.tactical-life.com/magazines/special-weapons/aac-mk-46-saw-300-blk/

And since we're talking about machineguns smeag: Did you ever add quick change barrels for the MGs?

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by Vince7403 on Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:45:59 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message I modded 6.5mm Grendel rifles and an IAR in my own game, reusing icons from other weapons and ammo. I like it, but I respect Smeagol's decisions on what does or doesn't go in.

Unrelatedly, how about the Mepro-21 reflex sight? It's basically the MARS sight without the laser designator so it's much less expensive. I've handled one and liked it but I suppose it might not be special enough to be worth it. The objective lens shines like a gemstone and there doesn't seem to be a reflection concealer made for it, so maybe it should get a camoflage penalty? Just a thought. Mepro 21 reflex sight

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:28:22 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message DepressivesBrot MGA SAW Gen-3, essentially legitimizing the aforementioned bastard Minimi.

Page 149 of 150 ---- Generated from The Bears Pit Yupp.. that's basically the 6.8 SPC Minimi I added some time ago. IIRC, it isn't available from BR at this time. The idea was to add it as a special unique item find in a map (but now that it is actually a retail available gun, I might add it to BR selection).

DepressivesBot And since we're talking about machineguns smeag: Did you ever add quick change barrels for the MGs?

Not yet. Thanks for the reminder.

Subject: Re: AIMNAS Item requests Posted by smeagol on Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:35:14 GMT View Forum Message <> Reply to Message Vince7403I modded 6.5mm Grendel rifles and an IAR in my own game, reusing icons from other weapons and ammo. I like it, but I respect Smeagol's decisions on what does or doesn't go in.

At some point, 6.5 Grendel will make it in. I'm always deliberate in adding new calibers, as it means adding new magazines and box items in addition to the guns. Always quite some effort. But as I did add two more calibers recently, might as well be adding 6.5 Grendel soonish.

Quote:Unrelatedly, how about the Mepro-21 reflex sight? It's basically the MARS sight without the laser designator so it's much less expensive. I've handled one and liked it but I suppose it might not be special enough to be worth it.

Could be a good early game aim improver. Might consider it.

Quote:The objective lens shines like a gemstone and there doesn't seem to be a reflection concealer made for it, so maybe it should get a camoflage penalty? Just a thought.

Doubt that this is possible. Camo on attachments and guns don't work at the moment. I think Tais coded something like that to make guns like the SEAL recon rifle actually camouflaged, but I don't know if that piece of code made it into the trunk.

If it did, I'm pretty sure it would warrant adding camo penalties to several other guns and attachments and might even make adding camo rags to attach to scopes and guns a valid item option.

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