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2007 Messages 3976-4774 AA History Lovers 2007 Messages 3976-4774 moderated by Nancy Olson September 18, 1929 – March 25, 2005 Glenn F. Chesnut June 28, 1939 – IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3976. Re: Film of Bill W. on the Twelve Traditions From: Chuck David . 12/30/2006 2:09:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The video "Bill Discusses the Twelve Traditions" is available from GSO (VS-20). It is in the current catalog in the AV material section catalog number (VS-20) a 1/2 in VHS video price $15.00. ** Bill Discusses the Twelve Traditions -- Bill W. tells how the principles safeguarding AA unity developed. 60 minutes. I own a copy of this video and have dubed it to DVD to save it for future use. My VCR only works intermittantly and find that DVD format is the way to go... I have noticed that many of the AV materials GSO offers are on VHS format. Even at a recent Area meeting there was extensive discussion on producing materials in DVD format vice VHS format... .I believe it was the ASL signing of the Big Book which is available however excludes most of the stories from the back of the book. You may contact GSO to receive a catalog of materials available their number is 1-212-870-3312 / this is also the order number if you decide to order the VHS tape. Hope this was helpful. C h u c k D a v i d [email protected] Litrature and GV rep Oak Harbor Group Oak Harbor, WA - - - - - - - Thanks to all, we got the same information from a number of our members: "Bent Christensen" <[email protected]> (bent_christensen5 at yahoo.com) "Chris Budnick" <[email protected]> (cbudnick at nc.rr.com) alan dobson <[email protected]> (dobbo101 at yahoo.com) Bill Lash <[email protected]> (barefootbill at optonline.net) "momaria33772" <[email protected]> (jhoffma6 at tampabay.rr.com) Gary Rohde <[email protected]> (feelgoodcp at yahoo.com) ROGER WHEATLEY <[email protected]> (chief_roger at yahoo.com) IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3977. RE: Film of Bill W. on the Twelve Traditions From: Arthur Sheehan . 12/30/2006 6:33:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The VHS tape is Conference-approved service material. You can purchase it directly from AAWS in NY or through your local Intergroup Central Office. It is item number (VS-20) and costs $15. It might better be called "Bill Discusses Ten of the Twelve Traditions." He got a little pressed for time near the end and had to skip two of them. There are two other VHS tapes that you might be interested in: "Bill's Own Story" (VS-21 - $15) and "Markings on the Journey" (M-57 - $16) which is an hour history of AA. All three items are designated as "confidential and available to AA members only." The catalog asks you to order through your group. If you know your group's service number then you can order it directly by: Phone: 1-212-870-3312 Order Entry Dep't) Fax: 1-212-870-3137 or 1-800-437-3584 Mail: AAWS, PO Box 459, Grand Central Station, NY, NY 10163 Email: [email protected] Call the Order Entry Dep't for assistance. They are very friendly and helpful. Cheers Arthur IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3978. Significant January Dates in A.A. History From: chesbayman56 . 1/1/2007 2:33:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Jan 1929 - Bill W. wrote third promise in Bible to quit drinking. Jan 1940 - Akron group moves to new home at King School. Jan 1944 - Dr. Harry Tiebout's first paper on the subject of "Alcoholics Anonymous". Jan 1944 - onset of Bill's 11 years of depression. Jan 1946 - Readers Digest does a story on AA. Jan 1948 - 1st A.A. meeting in Japan Jan 1951 - AA Grapevine publishes memorial issue for Dr Bob. Jan 1958 - Bill writes article for Grapevine on "Emotional Sobriety". Jan 1, 1943 - Columbus Dispatch reports 1st Anniversary of Columbus, Ohio Central Group. Jan 2, 1889 - Sister Ignatia born, Ballyhane Ireland. Jan 3, 1939 - First sale of Works Publishing Co stock is recorded. Jan 4, 1940 - 1st AA group formed in Detroit, Michigan. Jan 5, 1939 - Dr Bob tells Ruth Hock in a letter that AA has "to get away from the Oxford Group atmosphere". Jan 5, 2001 - Chuck C. from Houston died sober in Texas at 38 years sober. Jan 6, 2000 - Stephen Poe, compiler of the Concordance to Alcoholics Anonymous, died. Jan 8, 1938 - New York AA splits from the Oxford Group. Jan 10, 1940 - 1st AA meeting not in a home meets at King School, Akron, Ohio. Jan 13, 1988 - Dr Jack Norris Chairman/Trustee of AA for 27 years dies. Jan 13, 2003 - Dr Earle M sober for 49 years, author of "Physician Heal Thyself" died. Jan 15, 1937 - Fitz M brings AA meetings to Washington DC. Jan 15, 1945 - First AA meeting held in Springfield, Missouri. Jan 19, 1943 - 1st discussion for starting AA group in Toronto. Jan 19, 1944 - Wilson's returned from 1st major A.A. tour started in Oct 24 1943. Jan 19, 1999 - Frank M., AA Archivist since 1983, died peacefully in his sleep. Jan 21, 1954 - Hank P who helped Bill start NY office dies in Pennington, New Jersey. Jan 23, 1985 - Bob B. died sober November 11, 2001. Jan 24, 1918 - Bill marries Lois Burnham in the Swedenborgen Church in Brookyn Heights. Jan 24, 1945 - 1st black group St. Louis Jan. 24, 1971 - Bill W dies at Miami Beach, FL. Jan 25, 1915 - Dr. Bob marries Anne Ripley. Jan 26, 1971 - New York Times publishes Bill's obituary on page 1. Jan 30, 1961 - Dr Carl Jung answers Bill's letter with "Spiritus Contra Spiritum". End of Jan 1939 - 400 copies of manuscript of Big Book circulated for comment, evaluation and sale. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3979. Not AA Number Three From: [email protected] . 1/1/2007 9:54:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Bill W and Dr Bob worked with two other alcoholics in 1935 before succeeding with Bill Dotson who became AA Number Three. There was a Dr McKay and then Edgar (Eddie) Reilly. Where do those two fit in this timeline? May 11 -- Bill W calls Reverend Tunks. May 12 -- Mothers Day. Bill W and Dr Bob meet. June 10 -- Dr Bob's last drink. June 17 -- (other possible last drink date) June 26 -- Bill D enters Akron's City Hospital. June 28 -- Bill W and Dr Bob visit Bill D. That isn't even seven weeks and Dr Bob was away getting drunk at a medical conference part of that time. When did they work with the other two unsuccessful AA #3 candidates? Was either around at the time of Bob's slip? Did either of them visit Bill D in the hospital. Did Bill D help during Eddie's slippery period? If Dr Bob and Bill worked with Eddie "throughout the summer," then he must have been around for a while after Bill D became part of the group. It would be interestig to know the full sequence. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3980. Emmet Fox''s secretary''s connection to early AA From: Glenn Chesnut . 12/31/2006 5:26:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The wikipedia article on Emmet Fox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmet_Fox contains the following sentence: "Fox's secretary was the mother of one of the men who worked with Alcoholics Anonymous co-founder Bill Wilson, and partly as a result of this connection early AA groups often went to hear Fox." If this statement is correct, can anyone in our web group give me this man's name? Glenn Chesnut, South Bend P.S. It is well known to AA historians that in New York, "early AA groups often went to hear Fox." It is not that, but the first part of that sentence in the wikipedia article that I would like to know more about. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3981. United Kingdom GSO: Film of Bill W. on the Twelve Traditions From: Susie Dixon . 12/30/2006 4:34:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hi everyone I got my copy of the DVD from GSO in UK. Hope this helps. I presume GSO USA have copies. All good wishes to everyone for 2007 Susie D in the UK IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3982. Patron saints of alcoholism From: John Blair . 12/31/2006 2:41:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Regarding Glenn's reply about St, Monica, other patron saints of alcoholism include John of God, Martin of Tours, Matthias the Apostle, and Unban of Langres. Others were recognized as saints in part through their work with alcoholics. Perhaps the most notable person today who is in process of being recognized a saint is the Venerable Matt Talbot (1856-1925) of Dublin, Ireland. A few books look at his recovery journey in light of the twelve steps. The patron saint of hangovers is St. Bibiana (Vivian) who lived in 4th century Rome. She is also the patron saint of the Diocese of Los Angeles. John Blair IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 3983. Jack Norris'' Talk at Bill W.''s Funeral (1971) From: Bill Lash . 1/1/2007 8:30:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII DR. JACK NORRIS' TALK MEMORIAL SERVICES for BILL WILSON NEW YORK, N.Y. FEB. 14TH, 1971 Our beloved Bill is dead. Even as I stand before you and say the words, I cannot really believe that it is true. In my heart I choose to believe that Bill is here with us at this very moment. And I somehow can almost hear him saying in that half-amused, half embarrassed way of his, "Oh come on now Jack, do you really think all this fuss is necessary?" Two weeks ago, at a meeting of your Board of Trustees, shortly after Bill's passing, there was a rather lively discussion about a matter involving the whole fellowship.
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